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#61
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 20, 2020, 12:28:15 PM
Quote from: downjim on October 20, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 20, 2020, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: downjim on October 20, 2020, 09:31:15 AM
A serious question which might create a bit of debate! Hurling is a fantastic sport especially at the top level but for dual clubs is it really hard to balance hurling and football? Does hurling hamper hamper football or vice versa. In terms of SFC Kilcoo, Burren, Ford and the Bridge would be recognised as our most successful clubs, they do not have hurling, Is there a correlation? If Liatroim concentrated at one code where would they be at it? Certainly not in division 3 in football!
Should there not be a Mourne hurling club? Camogie seems very strong in that area.

In your opinion, and an opinion I assume based on recent senior football championship roll of honour.

It all depends on your bench mark. I am extremely proud of our ability in the most part to either field or contribute to teams in 4 different codes, as well as provide an outlet for around 40 under 5s in the fundamentals programme each Sunday morning (in the Summer months), and in what we as a club have provided by way of facilities to the local community.

As primarily a football man I would love nothing more than a senior championship win however notwithstanding that I believe I am a member of a very successful club.

As i stated "In terms of SFC Kilcoo, Burren, Ford and the Bridge would be recognised as our most successful clubs", in terms of providing facilities to communities and outlets for underage then I would say that 95% of clubs within our county our very successful. What i want to know do you think is hurling or football hampering your chances being more successful in terms of silverware. Would you sacrifice your hurling team to win a Frank O'Hare cup?

Apologies, you did. Also it was not intended to be a antagonistic response however it may read that way.

Would you sacrifice your hurling team to win a Frank O'Hare cup?

No, I wouldn't.

do you think is hurling or football hampering your chances being more successful in terms of silverware

I honestly don't believe that in terms of SFC we would be more successful if we were not a dual club (men) however there is no doubt it is a balancing act at underage, whereby due to playing numbers most age groups have an overlap and as such you may have a player playing 2 age grades and 2 sports, therefore 4 teams. As an U17 management we had our lads for 1hr a week (plus match) and that was after their 45 min/ 1hr of hurling, done in an effort to ensure parents weren't having to travel to the club every night. But I still believe that any excuse around lack of success due to dual status is only that, an excuse.

One for yourself, last year at U16 you had 2 teams entered in the A league I believe, both of whom walked their division - serious amount of talent coming through. While its a nice problem to have, how do you keep those 30-40 lads involved with the club through in to adulthood, and with such success where does the (for want of a better term) mediocre player fit in?
#62
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 20, 2020, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: downjim on October 20, 2020, 09:31:15 AM
A serious question which might create a bit of debate! Hurling is a fantastic sport especially at the top level but for dual clubs is it really hard to balance hurling and football? Does hurling hamper hamper football or vice versa. In terms of SFC Kilcoo, Burren, Ford and the Bridge would be recognised as our most successful clubs, they do not have hurling, Is there a correlation? If Liatroim concentrated at one code where would they be at it? Certainly not in division 3 in football!
Should there not be a Mourne hurling club? Camogie seems very strong in that area.

In your opinion, and an opinion I assume based on recent senior football championship roll of honour.

It all depends on your bench mark. I am extremely proud of our ability in the most part to either field or contribute to teams in 4 different codes, as well as provide an outlet for around 40 under 5s in the fundamentals programme each Sunday morning (in the Summer months), and in what we as a club have provided by way of facilities to the local community.

As primarily a football man I would love nothing more than a senior championship win however notwithstanding that I believe I am a member of a very successful club.


#63
Quote from: armaghniac on October 06, 2020, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: dec on October 05, 2020, 10:38:25 PM
The lockdown will kill people in the long term.

This is one of these slogans without any obvious basis in fact. How, exactly will the lockdown kill people in the long term? The economy is damaged anyway by the virus, the lockdown doesn't make it materially worse. Will the Chinese economy suffer more in the long term than US?

The likes of the following while not identifying specific deaths definitely supports the assertion that the risk of death through non Covid illness has increased;

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/30/charity-says-nearly-a-million-women-missed-breast-cancer-check
#64
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
October 06, 2020, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 05, 2020, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: trileacman on October 05, 2020, 10:27:33 PM

It seems the Zero COVID debate is dead. You can't keep flogging a dead horse.
There's never really been a proper debate about it

New Zealand shows it can work

Devi Sridhar said last week that the UK is now effectively pursuing its own zero Covid strategy

But the circumstances are different, I know from a construction perspective there are very few if any of the top tier contractors not plying their trade across the water, it was evident as soon as things were relaxed slightly the photograph of the Aer Lingus flight out of Belfast to Heathrow on a Monday morning (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52539141).

As much as Michelle et al try to push the one island agenda it is not feasible, these 2 islands are intrinsically linked, and unless GB and Ireland decide on a joint zero Covid strategy (which they will not) I don't believe it is viable.   
#65
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
October 05, 2020, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 05, 2020, 02:25:18 PM
616 new cases of #covid19 in N. Ireland.

Previous Mondays

Sept 28th:    +220
Sept 21st:    +125
Sept 14th:   +109
Sept 7th:     +141
Aug 31st:     +58
Aug 24th:    +10
Aug 17th:    +39
Aug 10th:    +76

Seven day rate per 100,000
NI Average: 192.9

Derry & Strabane: 533.6
Newry, M & Down: 321.3
Belfast: 241.2
Mid Ulster: 185.7
Antrim & Newtownabbey:117.1
Lisburn & Castlereagh: 116.4
Armagh, B & Craigavon: 116.1
Fermanagh & Omagh: 115.6

Hospital Inpatients

05/10/20   64
28/09/20   82
21/09/20   59
14/09/20   57
07/09/20   44
31/08/20   51

Are case numbers comparable? Has testing (at the current level) been constant for long enough to use as a barometer.

Surely it is hospitalisations and deaths which are the best comparisons? In the '1st wave' we have no idea how many cases there were.
#66
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
September 22, 2020, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2020, 01:25:35 PM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/


8,800 cases per million
560 deaths per million.
26 Co figures :-
C.6,000
C.350

It's not a simple as that, you can never compare apples with apples. For example (statistica.com - no idea how accurate it is) Sweden has a median age of 41.3yo with ROI having a median age of 37.1yo, assume that is relevant in a disease that is more deadly to the elder population.

What is clear however is that if we continue to enact some form of lockdown, businesses will fail, unemployment will rise, revenue generated from taxation will fall and public services will suffer.

How many will then fall below the breadline or die as a result of increased waiting times. I do not have any answers but I understand why they are trying to keep businesses open while limiting visits to other homes.

In the meantime I will keep social distance, maintain good hygiene, wear a mask where required and support local businesses (hospitality included).

Unfortunately, whether we like it or not scenes in Tyrone and south Belfast will be used as reasons why we can't have nice things!
#67
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
September 08, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Frankie123 on September 08, 2020, 02:27:17 PM
Apologies for misnaming Liatroim as it's Liatroim Gaels.  I still ask the question though, how can this club continue as usual?

Some clown. For clarity, this is not related to Liatroim Fontenoys, but a club in county Leitrim.

I would say your query would be best directed to Connacht GAA.
#68
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
March 31, 2020, 02:41:34 PM
Former World Health Organisation director Prof Karol Sikora explains why the threat from the virus should drop after the peak is reached.

"If you go to Korea tomorrow, you'll find that the majority of people have had the virus - some of them won't even know they've had the virus - but they'll still be immune to it.

"Herd immunity grows, once it gets to 50% the virus has nowhere to go.

"At the moment, a person going out onto the street has the potential to infect up to 2.5 people with the virus

"But once other people around them become immune, there's nowhere for the virus to go, so the pandemic disappears and that's always the same with pandemics.

"The difficulty is to make that judgement call about when to let social distancing relax, to allow businesses to open, to allow the economy to grow."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-northern-ireland-52069262

Could our resident experts advise whether this is dangerous and as such should the Professor be sanctioned?
#69
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
March 20, 2020, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2020, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: maggie on March 20, 2020, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 20, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
And where should the kids of front line staff go?

Where do they go down south?

So don't close the schools then. As it stands we will have about 60% of the school in.

But is 40% at home not better than 0% at home? Is it not all relative? Btw, I am not saying the action is correct but surely any limiting of contact is better than none?
#70
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
March 20, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
And where should the kids of front line staff go?
#71
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
March 06, 2020, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: Green+Gold on March 06, 2020, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on March 06, 2020, 03:40:52 PM
I thinking about that during the week. How would that go?

Obv we need to beat Leitrim and what else needs to happen?

Beat Leitrim on Saturday night and Derry beat Longford on Sunday Down are promoted with a game to spare.

But if Down were to lose to Louth and Derry & Longford to win their last game it would be a 3 way tie and head to head would no longer be relevant, and it would come down to score difference, is that not the case?
#72
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2020, 10:23:43 AM
Rangers wage bill is half of Celtic's.

At the same time do they not have a Net transfer spend of about 40m greater than Celtic's over Gerrard's time in charge?
#73
General discussion / Re: Car Problems!!
December 19, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
Looking some advice.

I have a cracked alloy that I have had welded twice now and same issue again this morning. I would know the lad that welded it for me and would be confident in his ability, my question is; is there any other permanent fix that could be applied or is it scrap at this stage? Cheers.
#74
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
December 12, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2019, 05:15:53 PM

So is your food different down there? Do you exercise more? As far as I'm concerned I live on the island of Ireland, 40 miles from the border won't have any affect of my quality of life, length of life, or schooling, as in the north, its very good, plus the free health service is hard to beat.

I didn't realise you looked at Irishmen in the north differently, what about ones from Donegal? Can't get more north than that.

I seen all those coats on the Halfpenny bridge in Dublin the other day, what's that all about?

In fairness Milltown...

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/12/11/news/-warmforwinter-public-coat-donation-comes-to-belfast-1786979/
#75
General discussion / Re: Running
November 08, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 07, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Tommy Hughes is running sub 230 at I think 59 years old. It's unbelievable. I was told recently his age graded time (you can apply a weighting per age) is a 2:02 marathon aka world record.

Some lads are shy with their times for Dublin this year!  :P

Going to gear up for one more, which major city doesn't have a lottery ?

;D ... made a complete balls of it, tbh I knew going in I wasn't where I would wanted to be and really only settled on a plan the night before, went out too hard for the first half (realised I was going harder than planned but ploughed on anyway). Struggled massively for the last 10 mile and got round in 4:19, about 30 min worse than the last time I done it 2017, worst thing about it is that I now have to do another one as I can't leave it at that!!