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The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Pretty sure Aghagallon played Div 2 when they won it. 2016? Could be wrong.

And beaten finalists the year before as a div 3 team. Again could be wrong.

Think they won the league and intermediate when they won it.

Look my point was that this years format is a farce. Laughable that rossa and ld play again in 3 days time.

Back to the old format with some sort of seeding to allow for an ultra competitive cship with the best playing the best. Seeding also helps the lesser teams as they will also have a genuine chance of silverware. No point the loser of creggan v dunloy (hypothetical) going into the b comp as they will walk it

Ah sure we can win everything, it's good to see other teams compete. We might even end up at Junior level..

I'd say Cargin ourselves won't be competing at the top table for a while

I think your right you know. Best years behind for sure....*wins next 10 antrim chsips between them*

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams

Jesus. St endas not have 10 u21 starters? Thought a man from the mighty st galls would know everything....

Intermediate football isn't my thing, so I'll bow to your knowledge..

By the looks of things, itl not be long til youl be following in your hurlers footsteps. Them old horses cant run forever you know!

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams

Jesus. St endas not have 10 u21 starters? Thought a man from the mighty st galls would know everything....

The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Did portglenone not draw with creggan so you would expect to do something.

Yeah defintly, just naming ones of the top of my head. Could easily beat Aghagallon tomorrow. But again as i said....div 1 

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

No seeding. Open draw. Pure luck. Best team should still win it. Those knocked out in round 1 can go play for a shield or else dont have a shield.

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

Dont agree. For example Aghagallon could meet creggan. 2 geniune contenders while loser into b comp and romps it

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

Any new faces on the antrim panel?

Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...

is that's the case then surely aghagallon should be considered as favourites, have a very young squad more than holding their own in div 1. plus their minors won the league. plus they have some amount of lads with Hogan cup medals in their back pocket

Of course Agjagallon are contenders but they were brushed aside by Dunloy in round one and had to rely of a 1-03 total without reply in the last few minutes to gain a narrow win over Moneyglass.......

wasn't at either game so cant comment. both dunloy and moneyglass seem to be 2 good sides so losing to a cheating dunloy (just joking) doesn't seem that bad as it was the 1st game. also think with the new format, teams can afford an off performance in the group stage and get away with it.

look not saying aghagallon will win it, just was making a comment regarding the randalstown debate.

my pick are creggan, having  forwards like the 2 smalls, quinn and mcateer at u21 level is absolute deadly. 

looks like we have an Armagh man here, yes they are a serious outfit but beaten easily by a good dunloy team be interesting to see how they do on sunday would expect them to win  IMO

Not at all, well documented that they have a very youthful side along with the numbers they had representing st ronans (saffron gael)

Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...

is that's the case then surely aghagallon should be considered as favourites, have a very young squad more than holding their own in div 1. plus their minors won the league. plus they have some amount of lads with Hogan cup medals in their back pocket

I hear st pauls are currently filing a motion so that all clubs can go through to the A section......