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Milltown this reminded of your arguments early a little bit

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1793502017538949331?t=g_jx53To1wsQET9V3PlmnQ&s=19

None whatsoever has that anything to do with what I said. Again show me where I said that no international pressure will result in no help for the people surviving in Gaza?

You are the master of spin. Like I said you'd be a good spokesperson for the IDF

You read something then assume something and then come on and spew some crap!

I'll be clear again, no conflict will be resolved in Gaza without sitting round a table, I can't help you understand that. Not one death is worth it. If you want something closer to home look at the troubles, I'm 52 years old and we still are under British rule while our political parties on the national side sit side by side with the unionists.

Throwing rocks at tanks won't bring about change, this 75 years of loss suffered by the Palestinian people is horrendous, if the current genocide attempt continues there won't be a country/people to go back to.

So these countries that are standing up to Israel are going to put political pressure on them, they are doing exactly what I said needs done, dialogue. Thanks for highlighting that.

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So that's a no? I didn't say I'm happy for them to die.. Phew, is that a normal tactic for you?

Throwing rocks at tanks won't stop children dying, mothers raped or fathers being locked up for 30 years. It won't stop the tensions in the West Bank and further afield. Escalation will have an affect on all of us

Now you can support resistance all you want from over 5,500KMs away but unless its resolved through talk then it will continue. If you have any sense you'll know that it's the only way to stop this.

Its barbaric from the Israeli troops and government plus the US among others that have supported this. If it is paused without meaningful negation then this will continue and the geocide will be complete, that will help no one.

your opinion that they shouldn't use all efforts including armed resistence to end the occupation means (without you saying it) that you are happy/accepting of the status quo ( as every other effort (not armed resistence) has not ended the occupation) and the occupation is murdering daily Palestinians.

every bit of my sense says you want to limit what Palestinians do to get self determination. I dont. My preference is peaceful but its 75 years and throughout history armed resistence has led to the end of occupations (I acknowledge it also involves sitting down at a table after)

Without me saying it, I've never said it, doesn't stop you spinning it! Also I'm not accepting the status quo by saying they need to sit around the table!

But the current method isn't working

So that's a no? I didn't say I'm happy for them to die.. Phew, is that a normal tactic for you?

Throwing rocks at tanks won't stop children dying, mothers raped or fathers being locked up for 30 years. It won't stop the tensions in the West Bank and further afield. Escalation will have an affect on all of us

Now you can support resistance all you want from over 5,500KMs away but unless its resolved through talk then it will continue. If you have any sense you'll know that it's the only way to stop this.

Its barbaric from the Israeli troops and government plus the US among others that have supported this. If it is paused without meaningful negation then this will continue and the geocide will be complete, that will help no one.

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.

I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

If you can throw up in any of my posts where I said I'm happy for them to die, please?

And did I say they haven't sat at the table and tried to fix this? no again, more mistruths .. You'd be good at being an IDF spokesperson

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.

I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

Great experience. Well organised. Garda everywhere. Got from a pub in Baggot Street to our seats in about 25 minutes. Ticketing system was excellent. Barcode on your mobile ticket only came up that day. At 5 you were told to activate your Bluetooth and location on your phone. The had three checks for your ticket, one a cursory look at the screen. The second seemed like a little Bluetooth reader that knew you had an actual ticket. Next was scanning the barcode for you to get in at the ground. Brilliant atmosphere. Both sets of fans were great.

What would happen if  you couldn't get  a WiFi signal? Or if your battery  ran out?

Or even if your phone was stolen? Could someone else have  used the ticket?

You need a solid ticket and cash.... You'll be left behind lol

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

All fun and games till someone hits you flat on the nose!

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

was in Cavan on Tuesday, its a fair aul hike all the same!

Neighbour of mine won a house from a club draw, that was over 23 years ago, needless to say they moved back to
Magheralin I think she was from, though he was Newtownabbey, would have been a strange place for him to move to lol

For some clubs staying in Div 1 is the be and end all, winning the odd group game in championship is a bonus or competing with the big three is improvement.

But come championship is different entirely

Definitely earplugs for Viki Sparks! My god, she could belt it out! 

Just good old fashion vagina rape!