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Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Will it ever end

I cannot see any corruption on behalf of LPS - they've got money to all companies claiming small business rates relief - whether that's a wind turbine / AD Plant or constituency office - it's over to the individual to deem themselves not to require the payment & return it promptly.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

RedHand88

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

Can't leave a story like that hanging. Where was this?

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

Can't leave a story like that hanging. Where was this?

Volunteers dance in Ballybofey. A photo was taken showing lines on a hotel room table, new and up and coming Galliagh SF star Conchúr McCauley and Elisha'a election officer took the hit and disappeared overnight.


HiMucker

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.


This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about
Is that a fact? That's how it reads but wasn't sure. It does stink and she has rightly been roaded regardless.

I know you love a bit of shinner bashing, but that second part is 100% true. Derry deserves a much better candidate and effort from SF. They deservedly lost the seat their and that's coming form someone who voted for them.

JoG2

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

Derry's celebrity party couple, Dosh and Decks.

theticklemister

Quote from: HiMucker on October 30, 2020, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.


This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about
Is that a fact? That's how it reads but wasn't sure. It does stink and she has rightly been roaded regardless.

I know you love a bit of shinner bashing, but that second part is 100% true. Derry deserves a much better candidate and effort from SF. They deservedly lost the seat their and that's coming form someone who voted for them.

Nothing wrong with a bit of Shinner-bashing Hi Mucker

theticklemister

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:32:10 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

Can't leave a story like that hanging. Where was this?

Volunteers dance in Ballybofey. A photo was taken showing lines on a hotel room table, new and up and coming Galliagh SF star Conchúr McCauley and Elisha'a election officer took the hit and disappeared overnight.

What SIZE of Hotel room was it ? Lol

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: JoG2 on October 30, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.

This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about

Derry's celebrity party couple, Dosh and Decks.

;D ;D

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: HiMucker on October 30, 2020, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 30, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2020, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 30, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: Downtothewire on October 29, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Surely the spotlight should turn to the LPS as to why the money was paid out in the first place. Maybe fat boy Nolan should investigate that or am I'm missing something here

The civil service will get the hammering it (often rightly) deserves. There is some mitigation in the fact that this was an extraordinary circumstance where money had to be paid out quickly. There wasn't time for designing a foolproof scheme. There's perhaps a whiff of the usual incompetence but not of corruption or wrongdoing, which is absolutely the case with McCallion.

Did she have her personal joint account down as the account for the constituency office? Its just so blatant.

Just says an account to which she is a joint signatory.

Personal account with her thug husband.


This is the woman who was very likely in the room at the volunteers dance 2 years ago at which colombian party powder was being dished about
Is that a fact? That's how it reads but wasn't sure. It does stink and she has rightly been roaded regardless.

I know you love a bit of shinner bashing, but that second part is 100% true. Derry deserves a much better candidate and effort from SF. They deservedly lost the seat their and that's coming form someone who voted for them.

I believe so. If it wasn't it was a joint business account for an office that didn't exist, and why would Decky be a signatory on a business account that he has no connection to? This would effectively have given him some operating rights on the account.

I voted SF for 25 years. They were getting 10% in polls when I started voting them.

Pub Bore

It's not surprising that LPS made a few f**k ups here.  They were under pressure to get money out quickly and the system prob wasn't as tight as it should have been. IIRC they used the rating list from 2018-2019, so McCallion was still an MP then and prob still had an office. As far as LPS were concerned the property was still occupied.  If you paid your rates by DD you automatically got the payment.
McCallion has admitted that the money went to a personal joint account with her husband that she used to claim expesnes as an MP.  This suggests that her name was down as the ratepayer for that property.  This might be OK since MPs are elected as individuals and not members of a political party.  That's why Wee Nic Sturgeon couldn't force that SNP MP to resign.  So she as an individual rents the office (from SF?), puts her name down as the ratepayer (again that's OK). i'm no expert but I don't think you have to be a trading business to get Small Business Rates Relief.  So she could have easily explained getting the money in the first place. 

Her big mistake was thinking that no one would ever cop on.  I hope she hasn't spent it.

Just wait til they audit the furlough scheme.  Nolan will be on 24hrs a day!

Saffrongael

Let's face it, the money was going to be kept unless this was uncovered
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Pub Bore

Quote from: Saffrongael on October 30, 2020, 03:40:07 PM
Let's face it, the money was going to be kept unless this was uncovered

Yep, how they thought they'd get way with this is the hard bit to believe.

Saffrongael

Quote from: Pub Bore on October 30, 2020, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 30, 2020, 03:40:07 PM
Let's face it, the money was going to be kept unless this was uncovered

Yep, how they thought they'd get way with this is the hard bit to believe.

I would say that due to the volume of money being paid out in various grants and schemes and how hectic a time it was  probably hoped they wouldn't be able to go back and check every case. That and SF/DUP seeing themselves as untouchable
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come