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Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.

If you've been running in that heat for a while it will hardly be the heat that's done more likely just a shit day and everything is harder when that happens!!

Ran in London a few times lately (humidity was high too) and 2 morning runs were dreadful and the rest were fine, looking forward to my week in Spain to get some runs in ... but looking at around 7am starts... what time did you go for run at?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

heffo

Quote from: laoislad on July 21, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.
I find the heat a killer. I'm doing everything by heart rate at the moment and I went for a run Tuesday evening and could not keep my heart rate down. I actually had to walk some of it to keep it down to the zone I wanted to be in for that run.
A couple of days before that I was about 30secs per mile quicker for the same route at the same heart rate zone but it was no where near as humid that night.

Same as - was doing a tempo run yesterday and had to stop three times to get the HR down

magpie seanie

Invested in new wheels on Friday so did a couple of decent runs over the weekend. Girl in Elvereys in Sligo did the analysis of my plodding on the treadmill and was able to show me why she was recommending a certain type of shoe. It only confirmed what I suspected. I felt she knew what she was talking about. Was very tempted by a pair of Brooks but stuck with Asics and I love them already.

That's the easy part of the equation. Age and belly are not as easy fixed though I suspect if I solved the latter I wouldn't feel the former as much as I am now. I'm gone very slow and have no strength - the slightest hill knocks me off my stride. I need to do some tempo and hills for a few weeks now that I've at least built some sort of a base. Disappointed not to be doing the Warriors and don't think I'll be ready for 13.1 miles in Athlone so new target is 10 mile coast to coast in Sligo on September 24th. Should be doable but will be very slow.

laoislad

I was doing my long run sunday morning and around the 20km mark my right knee started paining me badly all of a sudden. I was near the house so hobbled home the last 1km.
All day sunday and monday it was killing me, the worst was walking down the stairs. I could manage going up or walking on the flat but walking downstairs was next to impossible.
Is this the dreaded runners knee? Its better today but still have a slight twinge in it.
My runners have nearly 1000km on them, could that be a cause?
I have the Rock n Roll Half Marathon on Sunday, hoping Ill be ok by then but I dunno if I will be able do any running in this week now because of the knee.
Would it be ok to get on a bike instead or is it better just to rest it for the week?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

imtommygunn

1000k is definitely too much in one pair of trainers... Whether that's your cause or not i don't know. Try biking on it. It'll at least test it out as there's no point doing the half marathon if this is plaguing you. It will only make it worse.

gallsman

Have set Barcelona half marathon in February as big target I want to achieve. I get free entry so too good to turn down.

heffo

Quote from: laoislad on August 02, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
I was doing my long run sunday morning and around the 20km mark my right knee started paining me badly all of a sudden. I was near the house so hobbled home the last 1km.
All day sunday and monday it was killing me, the worst was walking down the stairs. I could manage going up or walking on the flat but walking downstairs was next to impossible.
Is this the dreaded runners knee? Its better today but still have a slight twinge in it.
My runners have nearly 1000km on them, could that be a cause?
I have the Rock n Roll Half Marathon on Sunday, hoping Ill be ok by then but I dunno if I will be able do any running in this week now because of the knee.
Would it be ok to get on a bike instead or is it better just to rest it for the week?

Am sure the stock answer is see a physio but I've often biked or swam if I've had a niggle/strain I want to rest

lfdown2

Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

pullhard

just completed a personal month challenge of running at least 4 miles a day, during week runs were mostly done during my lunch. at the weekends I went longer and mostly off road. Dunno whether to keep it up for August or not. interestingly no injuries or niggles, the odd day of sore muscles but thats par for the course.

An Gaeilgoir

Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.

imtommygunn

The problem with gait analysis is that a lot of the people doing them wouldn't be qualified and so you wouldn't really trust their diagnosis.

if you're going to a podiatrist or some biomechanics specialist then fair enough but the ones in shops wouldn't generally be as good... (Some can be but I have been warned off by physics etc).

Don't get me wrong they could be spot on but I would say they're hit and miss.

laoislad

Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 04, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.
I have a foam roller that I never use...maybe I'll try that thanks.
Don't think I'll bother with gait analysis. Went to Elverys today and tried on a few pairs but bought nothing.
Liked the Nike Pegasus 33 and there were a few Asics I liked also.
What runners do you buy?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

lurganblue

I'm getting back into doing a little bit of running and have found that once I hit around the 5 mile mark, I begin to get a numbness in my right foot.  I have had this problem before but never worried much about it as I stopped doing much running.  Anyway, the problem is still there.  I think it stems from a trapped nerve up round my toes when I run.  Is there anything I can do to stop this?  I have changed my trainers, got a gait analysis done etc.  I've never went and got orthotics done though.  Was sort of hoping there are other solutions.

An Gaeilgoir

Quote from: laoislad on August 04, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 04, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.
I have a foam roller that I never use...maybe I'll try that thanks.
Don't think I'll bother with gait analysis. Went to Elverys today and tried on a few pairs but bought nothing.
Liked the Nike Pegasus 33 and there were a few Asics I liked also.
What runners do you buy?

I have a pair of Asics Cumulus....neutral ....bought them on sportsshoes.com, they work for me

imtommygunn

Ll did you make the dublin half?