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[SHEEDY]

Well, better to be out of the FA Cup! Only a distraction in a serious relegation threatening season.

Smidgen of truth in that but you would still be worried that as soon as one is conceded the wheels come off incredibly quick

players are mentally weak and drop the heads as soon as things start to go against them, especially away from home. Major clear out need in the summer no matter what league they start in next season.

You often see that about clearing the decks etc but the reality is players have contracts and unless you can get a buyer for them they can just sit and take the wages. I agree that is what is needed but it will take a 3-4 seasons to achieve that

Tosun, Delph, Sigurdsson, Kenny all dead wood and all out of contract in the summer, that's at least a start 🙄

[brokencrossbar1]

It's a start but none of them have made any contribution whatsoever to this season. They are not your problem. Your problems are with the likes of Richie-la and DCL. Lads who should be busting a gut but have basically downed tools.  They should be leading the drive to stay up but aren't. Sunshine footballers with no balls. 

[imtommygunn]

Richarlison does try in his defense. He is out of position and tbh he is a dirty wee shite but he does at least try. Dcl does not and even doucoure seems to have downed tools now after looking so good earlier on in the season.

[SHEEDY]

Richarlison definitely tries, too hard probably at times. Agree about Doucoure, he's been woeful this season and Gomes even worse

[imtommygunn]

Gomes yesterday just seemed like he couldn't be bothered so kicked out instead of doing any work. In doucoure's defense he had some fantastic games it has just been a long time.

[brokencrossbar1]

Richarlison may try but he is your main striker, main goal scorer. That's why up to £50m was spent on him. I know he can only work with what is going on around him but for the money that was spent on him and the expectation of him 5 goals is woeful. If you look at all the teams around them they have players scoring 8-9 goals and that's one of the big issues for Everton. Not saying he's the worst and the likes of Gomes etc don't seem to have the fight in them, but if you are looking for someone to get you out of it you need your goal scorers to get you goals. 4 league goals, 2 in games they've lost and 2 in games they've won,  he scored against Southampton in August and Arsenal in December. These are the only games he scores in that they won. His last league goal was Norwich in mid January. Townsend and Grey have been more effective for you boys for all the slagging of Rafa. There's a serious issue within the club and it's similar to United. It won't go away with getting new players. It's toxic from the board, to the players and to a lot of the fans.

[imtommygunn]

He's not a striker though and definitely not a lone frontman. If he was playing off a good striker he would be much better.

Agreed on the serious issues within the club and it's the same as united. It'll take years to fix bu players aren't playing as much for Lampard as they were for Rafa and that is saying something.

[Captain Obvious]

If Everton get relegated tonights result could be a key reason for it.

[imtommygunn]

I think this is the year tbh. That was a must win game especially with fixtures coming up.

[seafoid]

He's not a striker though and definitely not a lone frontman. If he was playing off a good striker he would be much better.

Agreed on the serious issues within the club and it's the same as united. It'll take years to fix bu players aren't playing as much for Lampard as they were for Rafa and that is saying something.

Lampard is not a manager.

[manfromdelmonte]

only hope is if Mina comes back and DCL actually starts playing.
bought two wing backs in January when we needed a strong centre half

[trailer]

Everton look to be in serious bother. Even the players Frank has brought in aren't playing for him. Difficult to see how they stay up there run is double tough compared to Burnley's.

[seafoid]

Ken Early

That feeling also seemed to afflict some of the managers Moshiri appointed, some of whom seemed to think themselves too good for the job. Ronald Koeman and Sam Allardyce have feuded with Everton since leaving, Carlo Ancelotti jumped ship at the first opportunity. Again, Moshiri's hires seem guided by the crudest heuristics: do they have name recognition? Have they done okay in their most recent job? Do they seem plausible? Questions such as whether the coach understands and can connect with Everton's culture and self-image are apparently never considered. Only that blindness can explain the crazy decision to hire Rafael Benitez, whose reign was always and obviously foredoomed. Everton is difficult enough to succeed at for any coach, let alone one who spent six years at Liverpool and disparagingly referred to Everton as a "small club".
Benitez proved unbeatable in internal warfare, winning political battles against the director of football, the head of recruitment, the director of medical services and the head of scouting in addition to the popular left-back Lucas Digne, all of whom he saw off the premises. Unfortunately, he proved unable to translate that prowess to the pitch.
The shortlist for his replacement supposedly includes Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, and Fabio Cannavaro - a typically random Moshiri pick-n-mix. Whoever does get appointed will most likely get chewed up by the Everton chaos which is beyond the power of a coach to tame

[johnnycool]

Ken Early

That feeling also seemed to afflict some of the managers Moshiri appointed, some of whom seemed to think themselves too good for the job. Ronald Koeman and Sam Allardyce have feuded with Everton since leaving, Carlo Ancelotti jumped ship at the first opportunity. Again, Moshiri's hires seem guided by the crudest heuristics: do they have name recognition? Have they done okay in their most recent job? Do they seem plausible? Questions such as whether the coach understands and can connect with Everton's culture and self-image are apparently never considered. Only that blindness can explain the crazy decision to hire Rafael Benitez, whose reign was always and obviously foredoomed. Everton is difficult enough to succeed at for any coach, let alone one who spent six years at Liverpool and disparagingly referred to Everton as a "small club".
Benitez proved unbeatable in internal warfare, winning political battles against the director of football, the head of recruitment, the director of medical services and the head of scouting in addition to the popular left-back Lucas Digne, all of whom he saw off the premises. Unfortunately, he proved unable to translate that prowess to the pitch.
The shortlist for his replacement supposedly includes Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, and Fabio Cannavaro - a typically random Moshiri pick-n-mix. Whoever does get appointed will most likely get chewed up by the Everton chaos which is beyond the power of a coach to tame

Moshiri's money has been a disaster for Everton and even now some fans rabbit on about the stadium, well it'll probably be the best championship stadium going when they do move to it as it's hard to see them bouncing back up if Moshiri keeps going with this higgledy piggledy style of hire-em and fireem at all levels within the club.
The only saving grace is that they seem competitive at the various youth levels and some of those players will be needed to step in next season as I can't see the likes of Richarlison hanging around in the championship..

[trailer]

Ken Early

That feeling also seemed to afflict some of the managers Moshiri appointed, some of whom seemed to think themselves too good for the job. Ronald Koeman and Sam Allardyce have feuded with Everton since leaving, Carlo Ancelotti jumped ship at the first opportunity. Again, Moshiri's hires seem guided by the crudest heuristics: do they have name recognition? Have they done okay in their most recent job? Do they seem plausible? Questions such as whether the coach understands and can connect with Everton's culture and self-image are apparently never considered. Only that blindness can explain the crazy decision to hire Rafael Benitez, whose reign was always and obviously foredoomed. Everton is difficult enough to succeed at for any coach, let alone one who spent six years at Liverpool and disparagingly referred to Everton as a "small club".
Benitez proved unbeatable in internal warfare, winning political battles against the director of football, the head of recruitment, the director of medical services and the head of scouting in addition to the popular left-back Lucas Digne, all of whom he saw off the premises. Unfortunately, he proved unable to translate that prowess to the pitch.
The shortlist for his replacement supposedly includes Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, and Fabio Cannavaro - a typically random Moshiri pick-n-mix. Whoever does get appointed will most likely get chewed up by the Everton chaos which is beyond the power of a coach to tame

Moshiri's money has been a disaster for Everton and even now some fans rabbit on about the stadium, well it'll probably be the best championship stadium going when they do move to it as it's hard to see them bouncing back up if Moshiri keeps going with this higgledy piggledy style of hire-em and fireem at all levels within the club.
The only saving grace is that they seem competitive at the various youth levels and some of those players will be needed to step in next season as I can't see the likes of Richarlison hanging around in the championship..

If they go down they could be in serious financial diffs. Some players don't have relegation clauses and they are already under scrutiny by FFP. There'll be a fire sale of the best playing assets and they won't realise their full value. I'm not sure if the Stadium money is coming from a guaranteed pot or not but you would imagine this will affect it somewhat.