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You'd have thought removing these two backward Eamon DeValera clause in the Irish constitution (family is founded on marriage, a woman's duty is in the home) would have been an easy win for the Irish government. Had the vote been held between 1993-2008, it would have easily passed. The mood has now shifted and it's not unlike Brexit or Trump's America where the people want a fantasy country back from the forces of liberal elite, media, WEF, EU, immigrants, whatever you're having yourself. Watch Brexiters in UK, Unionists, right wingers, Catholic Church cheer this result.

The wordings were very weak. They ignored the Citizens Assembly . There was no pre legislative scrutiny in the Dail. The Government will now have to look seriously into disability respite and funding. It was a good day for democracy.

The family one was clear: "The State recognises the Family, whether founded on marriage or on other durable relationships" instead of "The State pledges itself to guard with special care the institution of Marriage, on which the Family is founded."

That is some kick in the teeth to an unmarried mother who has worked hard all her life to raise her children. Even if wording was weak, it was still better than what we kept.

Define "durable relationships"

Regina Doherty more concerned with who leaked the AG advice, rather than the outcome of the referendum.
Why did they try to hide the advice of the top legal mind in the country, which would have helped people make an informed decision?

Because just maybe the South is one of the most corrupt states on the planet?

You mean one of the least corrupt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

There is very little about these referendums but I find all I need to do is look at the people who are against it to know that I am for it.

That's just like voting green or orange in the North just to stick it to the other side.

No it's not like that at all. Michael McDowell for example is someone I've never agreed with a single thing he's said. Same for gript media. If they say No, I'm 99% it should be yes.

Did you actually read or listen to McDowell's arguments?
I rarely agree with him either, but he made a very strong case.
I didn't even bother voting (for the first time since I could vote I think), but I would have voted No, No.

Gaza could lose Biden the election. It is already damaging Starmer.

The funny thing is the other side would be as bad or worse in both cases. If either had a set of balls or a shred of decency between them they'd take a proper stand.

It's quite depressing that the "world leaders" don't seem to have any moral courage.
I thought the world had advanced, but people are still willing to turn a blind eye to inconvenient atrocities.

Mickey continuing his excellent record against Dublin,Kerry and Mayo

What's his record against Mayo? Not that great from my memory.

That shot was going wide from McGuigan

Should have went on in

Yep, had open road in front of him. O'Hanlon would have got back in goal but still should have ended up with a one on one with the goalie rather than the pot luck shot he took on.

When will it be renamed "The Ulster Late Late Show So It Is"?

Michelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.

If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.

Michelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.

If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.

What party doesn't take on board public opinion to some extent?

Surely to God the party has a position on the matter though? And surely Michelle O'Neill knows what that position is?
Kielty let her off very easily on that.

[Derry have approached every league campaign like this for the past 3 years and have managed to keep it going deep into the championship.]

Mayo and Derry both like greyhounds out of the traps in this years League campaign. However it's a long season and Mayo ultimately flattered to deceive during last years League.

Derry have approached every league campaign like this for the past 3 years and have managed to keep it going deep into the championship. The GAA media seem obsessed about timing your run, usually as an excuse for the big counties losing.  This team has been unbelievably consistent for 3 years now, so the only criticism left is to say we are trying to hard to win every game.

McFaul's best position is definitely at 6, it's a pity for him that McKinless is also so good at it and probably more dangerous as an attacking threat. McFaul very good at linking the play though.

I agree with you Estimator, some pressure on Scullion coming in to that game against a gale force wind with a packed Celtic park and very little experience in county football. He did very well in the circumstances and got most of his kick-outs off.

The big difference being that Derry needed to keep winning Leagu games to get promotion. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all to be winning League matches but it doesn't guarantee success later in the summer either. In fact I'd probably put a division one League title above a provincial title now that they have become diluted. It depends where a team is at in its development and a League title for Derry would be another staging post marked off enroute to trying to win Sam Maguire.

There is no way a Div 1 league title is above an Ulster championship. It's not even near it in terms of fan interest, media interest and what it means to the players. Look at Clones last year for Armagh Derry vs the Mayo Galway league final.

It doesn't generate the level of fan or media interest but it's arguable which is the greater achievement. Beating the top teams in the country and lifting a national title at HQ or winning 3 games in a knockout regional competition. I think the Ulster championship is unique and can understand how it might be considered more valued but it has still been greatly diminished by it no longer being linked to the AI series.

Certainly for the likes of Kerry or Dublin, winning a national league title is a far greater achievement than hoovering up easy provincial wins.

That's because the other teams in Leinster + Munster are an embarrassment, and roll over to both Kerry & Dub.

Ask McGuinness, McGeeney, Harte, Laverty etc if they'd rather win Ulster than their respective divisions.

Maybe one of the worst takes ever on this board. Look at Mayo, homecoming for both recent titles, only to do what Mayo do later in the year.

Why are you making things up?

Are u16s free into the matches? I can't seem to find any reference to them on Ticketmaster. Student/oap = 15, adult = 20 is all they say.

No ticket required for u16s

Seeing on TV there looked like the Officials got it wrong.
The red card was a reckless dangerous tackle on the Man so 2 wrongs there.
We got what we deserved from a poor performance, especially from 30 minutes onwards.
Tyrone looked like they had the extra man in the 2nd half and we gave them so much time and space.
Then despite our extra man Morgan picked out a free man on the terrace side about 7 times in a row with kick outs.
Loss of 2 coaches from last year telling I wonder?

If it is the changeover in backroom team, there's plenty of time for them to rectify it.

The Southern lads just don't have the same mental strength.

Knob

Very hard on Brigids, the better team for most of that match.

Kind of noticing there's a common denominator for when this thread goes quiet.

Fell over the line in that one, but a big win nonetheless

Enjoy the first 10 years lads and lassies.

Because after that the fun period stops in my opinion. The real world starts to appear on their horizon and the innocence of life for them slowly starts to disappear

There is definitely a real magic period between 3 and 7 where they say and do the most amazing things.

Dropped our youngest off at primary school a few weeks ago, she is 7.  When crossing the road I grabbed her hand and she pulled it a away as in her head no doubt she is too cool now to be seen holding her Father's hand......I was devastated.

Yeah I'm in the same position there.
Our 7 year old is also the last one who'll be waiting on Santa and it'll break my heart when that part of christmas is gone!

My 7 year old still holds my hand on walk down to school and it doesn't enter his head what anyone might think.
Sometimes, for a moment, I think maybe it's time he stopped holding my hand, but then I realise that it might never happen again 😞
And he's such a happy lad, I'm going to enjoy it for as long as it lasts.