All Ireland Quarter Final - Cork v Waterford Sunday 29th July 2pm @ Thurles

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seafoid

Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 29, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
Disappointing for the deise. Kilkenny regain their composure. If tipp could beat them the next day galway would need to beat all of the old firm to win the championship. That would be a REAL all ireland.
It beats Galway winning All Irelands by just winning 2 games like in the old days!
Or Tipp buying refs !
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Premier Emperor

Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 29, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
Disappointing for the deise. Kilkenny regain their composure. If tipp could beat them the next day galway would need to beat all of the old firm to win the championship. That would be a REAL all ireland.
It beats Galway winning All Irelands by just winning 2 games like in the old days!
Or Tipp buying refs !
Or Tipp having the better hurlers.

seafoid

Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 29, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
Disappointing for the deise. Kilkenny regain their composure. If tipp could beat them the next day galway would need to beat all of the old firm to win the championship. That would be a REAL all ireland.
It beats Galway winning All Irelands by just winning 2 games like in the old days!
Or Tipp buying refs !
Or Tipp having the better hurlers.
we had to wait until 91 for that !
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Premier Emperor

Tipperary 1989/91 Team

Kevin Cashman waxes lyrical about the style of the Tipperary team under "Babs" – Sunday Tribune June 10th 1990, while also – perhaps uniquely among national journalists of the the time - seeing through the motivation and inaccuracy of much of the criticism of John Denton, the Wexford referee of the 1989 All-Ireland semi-final between Tipp and Galway .

"We can be, and we very often are, a contrary and capricious and captious people. We get style from Tipperary and about half of us say "Tipp are no good". We get blunt basicity from Jack's Braves and the same half of us say "Jack's lot have no style".

That half of the populace seemingly cannot grasp the imperative that you play, as Jack does, with what you have. And mere spectators and hacks, if they have a titter of wit and feeling, give thanks and respect for whatever is achieved. Take for – possibly the best – example Cork's All-Ireland winners of 1966: nobody will ever ascribe to them the elegant accomplishment which, the aged say, distinguished their predecessors of 1944 and, we all know, their successors of 1984 and just randomly – the Galway team which threw away the final of '79. Perhaps the decriers should demand that those Cork players of '66 hand over those medals to the Galway men of '79, and that, on 9 July, Jack's Braves hand over their medals to, say, the French or Brazilians of '82 or '86.

The rest of us are happy to have lived to see the beauty of these football teams, and sensible enough to have seen and to remember how their own deficiencies thwarted them. And happier to acknowledge the abundance of beautiful hurling given us by Tipperary since June '1987. And sensible enough, again, to perceive that Tipp now have fewer frailties than almost any champions of the past quarter century.

In the spate of bitterness and recrimination – and ruffianly detraction of John Denton – before, during, and after last year's All-Ireland semi-final, the one true and good thing inside that whole horrible episode was ignored and forgotten. In the first twenty minutes of the "game" Tipp played hurling that came within about five narrow wides of perfection The mood of Croke Park – rather akin, one suspects to a Mississippi lynching, or a Nuremburg book burning – soon polluted and halted that excellent demonstration of excellence. But anyone wanting to discover or exhibit the awesomeness and purity of great hurling need look no further than her or his videotape of that twenty minutes.

When you hear, as unfortunates condemned to read letters to the Sports Editor of this newspaper do all the time, "hurling is a simple game" you know it is time to drain your glass and move on. The austerity of Declan Ryan's and Conal Bonnar's stickwork is not simple; it is pure, as is the cadenced symmetry of Declan Carr's and Michael Cleary's and Nickolas English's stickwork. Nor simple was the genius and dedication by which Keating and Co. discovered and disciplined a whole new panel in the few months between the disaster of Ennis '86 and the ecstasy of Killarney '87.

http://www.premierview.ie/quote-unquote.html

seafoid

Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 01:01:05 PM
Tipperary 1989/91 Team

Kevin Cashman waxes lyrical about the style of the Tipperary team under "Babs" – Sunday Tribune June 10th 1990, while also – perhaps uniquely among national journalists of the the time - seeing through the motivation and inaccuracy of much of the criticism of John Denton, the Wexford referee of the 1989 All-Ireland semi-final between Tipp and Galway .

"We can be, and we very often are, a contrary and capricious and captious people. We get style from Tipperary and about half of us say "Tipp are no good". We get blunt basicity from Jack's Braves and the same half of us say "Jack's lot have no style".

That half of the populace seemingly cannot grasp the imperative that you play, as Jack does, with what you have. And mere spectators and hacks, if they have a titter of wit and feeling, give thanks and respect for whatever is achieved. Take for – possibly the best – example Cork's All-Ireland winners of 1966: nobody will ever ascribe to them the elegant accomplishment which, the aged say, distinguished their predecessors of 1944 and, we all know, their successors of 1984 and just randomly – the Galway team which threw away the final of '79. Perhaps the decriers should demand that those Cork players of '66 hand over those medals to the Galway men of '79, and that, on 9 July, Jack's Braves hand over their medals to, say, the French or Brazilians of '82 or '86.

The rest of us are happy to have lived to see the beauty of these football teams, and sensible enough to have seen and to remember how their own deficiencies thwarted them. And happier to acknowledge the abundance of beautiful hurling given us by Tipperary since June '1987. And sensible enough, again, to perceive that Tipp now have fewer frailties than almost any champions of the past quarter century.

In the spate of bitterness and recrimination – and ruffianly detraction of John Denton – before, during, and after last year's All-Ireland semi-final, the one true and good thing inside that whole horrible episode was ignored and forgotten. In the first twenty minutes of the "game" Tipp played hurling that came within about five narrow wides of perfection The mood of Croke Park – rather akin, one suspects to a Mississippi lynching, or a Nuremburg book burning – soon polluted and halted that excellent demonstration of excellence. But anyone wanting to discover or exhibit the awesomeness and purity of great hurling need look no further than her or his videotape of that twenty minutes.

When you hear, as unfortunates condemned to read letters to the Sports Editor of this newspaper do all the time, "hurling is a simple game" you know it is time to drain your glass and move on. The austerity of Declan Ryan's and Conal Bonnar's stickwork is not simple; it is pure, as is the cadenced symmetry of Declan Carr's and Michael Cleary's and Nickolas English's stickwork. Nor simple was the genius and dedication by which Keating and Co. discovered and disciplined a whole new panel in the few months between the disaster of Ennis '86 and the ecstasy of Killarney '87.

http://www.premierview.ie/quote-unquote.html
Tipp 91 were better than Galway. Tipp 89 weren't.
Sure they couldn't even get out of Munster the year after. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

Galway have a pathetic record. Only a few all irelands to show for all those automatic semi-final appearances.

CorkMan

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 30, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Galway have a pathetic record. Only a few all irelands to show for all those automatic semi-final appearances.

I'm hoping their record gets worse. Anything less than their performance against Kilkenny will give Cork a good chance of beating them.

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 30, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Galway have a pathetic record. Only a few all irelands to show for all those automatic semi-final appearances.
They never lost an all Ireland to a last minute free taken by a goalie after being 4 points up with 3 minutes left  !
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

deiseach



Great day's sport in Thurles yesterday, pity it wasn't our day. I thought we had them when we went three points up but they had the bench and we didn't (use ours). You can read what I thought here

seafoid

Quote from: deiseach on July 30, 2012, 09:42:28 PM


Great day's sport in Thurles yesterday, pity it wasn't our day. I thought we had them when we went three points up but they had the bench and we didn't (use ours). You can read what I thought here
Hard luck Deiseach. It's not nice when your county  goes out of the championship and age doesn't soften the blow really.
Hopefully Galway can strike a blow for the untouchables this year. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

deiseach

Quote from: seafoid on July 30, 2012, 10:21:39 PM
Hard luck Deiseach. It's not nice when your county  goes out of the championship and age doesn't soften the blow really.
Hopefully Galway can strike a blow for the untouchables this year.

Meh, I cope by having low expectations. Forza Galway!