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looking at the video, you realise the non impact of north Connacht, North Leinster and Ulster in the Hurling Championship. Hurling is a foreign to these parts of the country, they are just spectators.

Would you shtop

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 10, 2018, 07:38:58 AM »
MP's salaries have gone up from 65,000(2010) to 77,000(2018)...... how's that for austerity?
It never ceases to amaze me that the general public in the UK roll over and take it.....same in Ireland.....whereas in France there are multiple demonstrations. The sooner people realise that the French way is the only way we are going to see change the better.

That’s not a very high salary. Most 23 year olds on their first job in top cities in US would make that. But they work hard unlike the French who like their short working weeks. The French way will never work - just results in a stagnant economy based on protectionism. They have been rioting for decades and things just getting worse.

The point I was making is that whilst the general public have had to accept pay cuts, cut backs in services etc......those that make these decisions carry on feeding from the trough. In salary terms....a nurse earns from 25,000 up after training.....the lifeblood of the who is more valuable to society?
americans don't get payrises./ nobody does

The idea that americans benefit more from work is deluded
They have fewer holidays and healthcare costs an arm and aleg

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: December 10, 2018, 07:12:01 AM »
Kilmacud croaked

And Mullinalaghta will be remembered by their people. Legends

Irish Times
A Christmas fairytale as Mullinalaghta win first Leinster club title

Longford underdogs see off Kilmacud Crokes with late, late penalty from Gary Rogers

Seán Moran

Choirs of angels will need to turn the volume up in the skies around north-east Longford in a fortnight’s time if they are to be heard, as chances are that the new AIB Leinster club football champions will still be making plenty of noise in Mullinalaghta.

The statistics of the coup are already well aired. The half-parish on the border of Cavan with its population of 447 was facing up to the might of twice All-Ireland champions Kilmacud Crokes and their membership, conservatively pitched at 10 times their opponents’ population.

For further context, when the counties met in the summer’s Leinster championship, Dublin had 19 points to spare. The Spartans were better odds at Thermopylae.

There was also a mild sending-off controversy when referee David Gough showed Mullinalaghta’s James McGivney a second yellow card in the 64th minute but didn’t follow up with a red. McGivney did leave the pitch shortly afterwards, as did Kilmacud’s Cian O’Sullivan, also for a second yellow.


It was Gary Rogers, whose extraordinarily calm penalty in the last minute of normal time effectively won the match, who gave a matter-of-fact insight into his team’s eve-of-battle epiphany.

“Last night we looked at a few videos of Kilmacud. It was only last night we kind of realised, we might actually give them a go. Man on man, when we went 15 on 15 it just worked for us. In fairness they missed a bit. We missed a bit in the first half but we got the rub of the green then and got the penalty and look, I put it away.”

Kilmacud goalkeeper David Nestor had saved a penalty in injury time in the semi-final and Rogers hit his kick in the same direction.

“Yeah, that side, but I always pick a different side anyway so it didn’t really matter. I just said I’ll hit it as hard as I can and if he saves it, fair play to him. I hit it as hard as possibly could. I seen the lad for Portlaoise; in fairness, it was a great save. Just delighted that it went in.”

So it was that on the 50th anniversary of Longford’s only senior provincial title, the county has added the club equivalent. Just as in 1968, they will face Kerry opponents in the All-Ireland semi-final, in this case the other Crokes – of Killarney.

Busy spring

For manager Mickey Graham it guarantees a busy spring. Recently appointed manager of his own county, Cavan – who face a daunting return to Division 1 of the AFL – he will have the added responsibility of preparing the club for a tilt with the 2017 All-Ireland winners.

“Yeah, the show goes on, but I’m not going to worry about that now at this moment in time. I just have to sit down and gather all my thoughts and let this settle in, because this is going to be one hell of a party over in Mullinalaghta for the next week and up to Christmas because of this. For this club to do it is a fairytale.”

He singled out his full back Paddy Fox for praise after an afternoon keeping Dublin’s All Star forward Paul Mannion scoreless from play.

“People were talking about the marquee forwards they’d have, but I’ve seen Paddy Fox the last three years and he is one of the top full backs you’ll see in the country, and he showed that today against one of the most marquee forwards in the country.”

Kilmacud manager Robbie Brennan was realistic after what was a gravely disappointing defeat for the favourites.

“To be fair, I think Mullinalaghta probably deserved it. We didn’t play well so I don’t think we can have too many complaints really after it.”



Mon, Dec 10, 2018

Mullinalaghta stun Kilmacud Crokes to take Leinster crown

Late penalty scored by Gary Rodgers was enough for underdogs to slay the favourites

Seán Moran at O'Connor Park, Tullamore

 Kilmacud Crokes 1-6 Mullinalaghta 1-8

The AIB Leinster club SFC final has developed a reputation for drama in recent times but even so, Sunday’s finale in Tullamore brought the house down. A first win for a Longford club in the championship’s history – and in the county’s first final – was achieved in a blizzard of late activity as Mullinalaghta came from three down with five minutes to go to outscore the hot favourites, Kilmacud by 1-2 to nil in the time remaining.

Even the manner of the achievement was gripping, as the critical score came from a penalty, awarded after a flowing move was abruptly halted after a foul on Aidan McElliggott by Cian O’Sullivan in the 58th minute at which point the Dublin champions led by two, as David McGivney had trimmed the lead.

Kilmacud goalkeeper David Nestor had saved an injury-time penalty in the semi-final against Portlaoise to prevent the match going to extra-time but this time – coincidentally also against a player called Rogers (Craig) – Gary Rogers’s kick to the same right-hand side sent Nestor the wrong way and pushed the outsiders into the lead, 1-7 to 1-6 with a minute of normal time left on the clock.

Within 60 seconds the ball was turned over and worked to the left where McElligott shot his team two clear.

There was no mistaking the gravity of the situation now. This was a match that hadn’t been expected to be played on Mullinalaghta’s terms, tight and low-scoring but that’s how it evolved and with their 1-6 in an hour’s play, the task for Kilmacud in retrieving a two-point deficit looked immense and their lethargic response suggested that they realised as much.

In the dying minutes before the penalty they had tried to play down the clock, despite the danger of being just two ahead.


“For whatever reason we reverted back to type, which we had been doing probably for the last three years, more of a defensive game,” said manager Robbie Brennan afterwards, “keep ball, go backwards with it. We reverted back to that for some strange reason and it caught us.”

Mullinallaghta started well. They had plenty of possession and in Rian Brady the outstanding forward, buzzing around the attack and shooting with commendable accuracy on a cold windy afternoon for three points from play but also dropping deep to cover the typically counter attacking opposing backs.

They also shut down their opponents’ attack effectively with Paddy Fox quickly finding All Star Paul Mannion for company on the edge of the square where the Longford county defender played a stormer, giving his decorated prey hardly any room and expertly anticipating – albeit the not always laser-guided – through balls.

At one point Mannion was frustrated into invention and tried to play the ball to himself in the corner of the attack but possession was gobbled up.

Since the tortoise and the hare it hasn’t always been to the benefit of favourites to strike early and after a fifth-minute goal by Pat Burke, finished after a good move between Shane Horan and the lively Callum Pearson, the pick of the Kilmacud forwards. Instead of being a launchpad, the score appeared to anaesthetise the favourites and ended up bank rolling their somewhat aimless play for the remainder of the half during which they managed just two more points.

It wasn’t as if Mullinalaghta were making them pay top dollar for the lassitude and at times they looked nervous, as mistakes abounded on both sides. Liam Flatman, the Kilmacud corner back, got a black card in the 17th minute for hauling down Jayson Matthews.

James McGivney’s presence caused trouble for the favourites but he was too often bottled up on the sideline where his frustrations got him an early yellow card – a cause of controversy when a second was added at the end of the match but referee David Gough omitted to show the follow-up red although the player left the field shortly afterwards.

Cian O’Sullivan also saw red for a second yellow of his own in the 64th minute, an unhappy end to a difficult provincial campaign for the six-time All-Ireland winner.

Winning manager Mickey Graham said that being level at half-time re-emphasised to his team that they were in contention but the third quarter saw the favourites inch ahead with points from Craig Dias – who worked hard on the ball from centrefield although there was no clear winner in the zonal battle – and Pearson.
Tom McElligott sets off a firework on the pitch after the game. Photo: Oisin Keniry/Inpho Tom McElligott sets off a firework on the pitch after the game. Photo: Oisin Keniry/Inpho   
The outcome was still up for decision but the sense was that if Kilmacud could add a few scores, there would be no way back. Burke’s cancelling out of Rian Brady’ 50th-minute free within seconds appeared to nudge the match in that direction before the late charge shifted the Leinster club championship on its axis and breathed some seasonal romance into the football year.

ST COLUMBA’S MULLINALAGHTA: 1. Patrick Rogers; 2. Simon Cadam, 3. Patrick Fox, 4. Conan Brady; 6. Shane Mulligan, 7. Dónal McElligott (0-1), 5. Francis Mulligan; 9. John Keegan, 15. Aidan McElligott (0-1); 10. Gary Rogers (1-0), 11. James McGivney, 12. Brendan Fox; 13. Jayson Matthews, 14. Rian Brady (0-4, one free), 8. David McGivney (0-2, one free).

Subs: 18. Michael Cunningham for F Mulligan (48 mins).


KILMACUD CROKES: 1. David Nestor; 2. Liam Flatman, 7. Ross McGowan, 3. Andrew McGowan; 5. Cian O’Connor, 6. Cillian O’Shea, 4. Cian O’Sullivan; 8. Craig Dias (0-1), 9. Conor Casey; 12. Shane Horan, 11. Paul Mannion (0-2, frees), 10. Shane Cunningham; 13. Pat Burke (1-1), 25. Stephen Williams, 15. Callum Pearson (0-2).

Subs: 17. Aidan Jones for Flatman (black card, 18 mins), Kevin Dyas for Williams (48), Mark Vaughan for Pearson (56), Nathan Nolan for Ross McGowan (66).

Referee: David Gough (Meath).

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: December 09, 2018, 10:56:23 PM »
Rinneamar é.

On antibiotics at the moment so I'm afraid the beer is out. Logged in to update the profile  ;D
Loving the profile. Before today it might have been regarded as notions but they actually did it.
What an amazing day after the disappointment of last year.

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: December 09, 2018, 08:52:15 PM »
You can tell from the dinner dance video that Mullinalaghta
are a serious football team

I hope the dinner dance this year will be online
I presume Laureleye has taken the evening off for beer and peanuts

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 09, 2018, 08:26:49 PM »
Brexit is fucked. Here is why

Thatcher broke the miners in 1985. Instead of rehabilitating the communities they were left to rot.

UK manufacturing employment fell from 8.9 million
to just 2.9 million since the 1960s, and 500,000 coal jobs
ESA and the additional benefits received –
eg Housing Benefit and DLA  –
cost  £30bn
Or 3% of GDP

Sheffield Hallam studied the coalfields 30 years  later

Thatcher’s miner legacy :

Extent of ill health :

DLA claimant rate
Job density
Business stock
Business formation rate
Employment rate
Occupational structure
Workforce qualifications
Incapacity benefit claimant rate
Overall working-age claimant rate

The mining communities are sicker and poorer than other communities.  30 of the 43 most deprived communities in the UK are ex-mining communities.

These people were abandoned.

Osborne began his cuts after the 2011 election. They hit the former mining areas hard
 "In Bolsover, government funding has gone.

 Mansfield used to have 12 community development workers across all agencies. Now this is reduced to "just one or two".

In Wansbeck staffing reduced from 41 to 15."

“The financial cuts since 2010 have driven many voluntary and community
organisations in the coalfields into crisis, and often led to substantial

The people were courted by vote Leave and they thought they would be looked after. The coalfields voted Leave.
The combined effect of shabby treatment going back to the 80s, neglect and cuts drove the Leave vote.

Leave was the Tory death sentence and it was delivered in part by the people of Orgreave.

. The Tories promised them FOM and promised SE England growth. It can deliver neither. This a structural crisis.

Basically instead of rehabilitating the mining areas the Tories left them to hang. Given the disability costs of £30 bn pa this was far more expensive over the long term than doing the decent thing. The cherry on top was the Leave vote.

May gave a Lancaster House speech full of uncosted red lines. Nick Timothy believed that red lines were necessary to connect the Conservatives more deeply to the 52 % of the electorate who voted to
leave, in towns across the north of England, the Midlands and Wales who felt barely connected to the political process. These suffering people had been promised the world by gobshites.

"But senior civil servants, none of whom were consulted over Mrs May’s speech, were horrified
when they watched it on television.“"
May ran an unnecessary election on a strong Brexit  theme that was rejected by large swathes of the population. The UK is heavily polarised.

May had to cede on all of her red lines in negotiations with the EU. The UK cannot  drop freedom of movement and stay in the Single Market. It cannot go it alone without blowing up the UK economy.

There is no way forward that can deliver what the Tories promised the North of England.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 09, 2018, 04:55:02 PM »
An American story

Donald J. Trump


Joshua McKerrow

1. Today I did the annual story on holiday decorations at the Governor's residence. I've done it every year, for years. A very light but very fun story. Every year my reporting partner was Wendi Winters. This year, it was Selene. Wendi was murdered in June.

2. Selene did a great job, of course. And I really thought I could hold it together. I moved through the rooms with my tripod, focusing on the trees and ornaments. All I could think about was Wendi. I felt like she was with me, that she was actually present.

3. Not in a "ghost" sense, I hope she has moved on to a better world then Capital feature stories : ) But she was there in my mind. I could almost hear her voice echoing through the empty rooms. "How many cookies are you making this year?", her favorite question..

4. I was ok til the very end. Interviewed the butler, like I have every year, and when we were done she took me aside and whispered, "I really miss Wendi. Next year I'm going to name a cookie for her."

5. And that was it. The tears started, and I'm standing in the Maryland Governors home weeping to myself about my dead friend. She died in The Capital newsroom on June 28th, shot by a man who wanted to kill every journalist he could.

6. We don't know what set him off yet. After years of silence. What finally pushed him far enough that he loaded his shotgun, drove the 40 minutes from Laurel, parked his car, walked through the busy lobby, barricaded our back exit, blasted the simple fragile glass door.

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

7. Five people died, Rebecca, Wendi, Gerald, Rob, John. I always type their names in the order I think they were killed. I think, Rebecca first, at the door. Wendi charged him. Gerald and Rob were trapped in their cubicle. John, trying to get out the blocked exit.

8. Wendi was no ones enemy

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

Replying to
9. Every year Wendi made us all Oreo holiday cookies. except for the one year she made us jarred pesto. The question came up yesterday in the newsroom, who is going to make the cookies this year? Selene spoke up, I will.

10. I don't have a wrap-up to this story. I cried on and off all day. I miss her very much. I'm comforted that in a way she's still with me, when I do the work that she loved to do. Journalism. Patriotic, truth telling, American. We'll keep on doing the work.

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

Replying to
11. And if we die for it, someone else will pick up the threads, and report on the holiday decorations at the Governor's house. Its what we do. -

Shannon Watts


In the moments before she was shot dead at the Capital Gazette on June 28, reporter Wendi Winters - a 65 year old mother of four - stood up from her desk and charged at the rampaging gunman, brandishing a trash can and a recycling bin.

She shouldn't have had to be a hero...

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: December 09, 2018, 04:04:48 PM »
Crokes beaten by some shite team from Longford.
Imagine what this means for the kids. Imagine the buzz in school tomorrow.
Imagine what Lomans are thinking.

2.5 million people in Leinster. One club.
This would have to be on a par with 1968.

Fair play to Laureleye who never gave in to irrational exuberance.

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: December 09, 2018, 12:05:12 PM »
Go néirí libh Laureleye. Lá de bhúr saol. I can only imagine
the excitement levels. Whatever happens they are legends.

GAA Discussion / Re: Pretty good ad
« on: December 09, 2018, 11:29:57 AM »
They probably sell presentation boxes for all Ireland medals in Kerry as well

This video is good too

Good stuff

I think Irish music and hurling is a great combo

Bits I wouldn’t mind seeing :

Jer the rigger by Hayes and Cahill Live in Seattle
Go west along the road by Hayes and Cahill live in Seattle
Si bheag si mhor  by Planxty

Really good hurling quotes could work as well

14:10 Dan Shanahan
It’s an honour to be playing against them lads.
And bating them

15:18 He said to me keep going, keep doing what you are doing, keep moving around . Don’t stand in the one spot.
Justin McCarthy

I think you must have belief that you can do something. You must believe that you can do it.
Mick Mackey

I knew I was strong from hitting against fellas, older fellas and that . You felt that « well, I could take that fella » type of thing.

As the years went on you would say to yourself I’m sorry I didn’t do this or that. If you were to go back a second time you would play different really. You would do different things . But you don’t get a second chance.

They all went to Thurles to see Mackey giving an exhibition. He carried the whole Limerick support on his shoulders.

Say you could juxtapose Mackey with limerick winning last year

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 08, 2018, 06:47:38 AM »
She is out of her depth

General discussion / Re: Consecrated Virgins
« on: December 07, 2018, 03:24:54 PM »

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:46:59 PM »
United Ireland latest
the DUP want this :

Major ports could suffer disruption for up to six months under a no-deal scenario, the Government has told industry leaders.
Revised Brexit assessments published on Friday warned that access through Dover and Folkestone could be reduced for significantly longer than first feared.
Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, has written to health and care providers setting out contingency plans for medicine plans, in which he warns that there would be "significantly reduced access across the short straits, for up to six months."
Separately, he also confirmed that his department was exploring plans to give pharmacists the authority to overrule GPs and ration drugs to mitigate shortages.
Under an urgent consultation initiated this week, ministers are seeking to introduce a  "serious shortage protocol" for pharmacies, allowing them to dispense a "reduced quantity" of the medicine, an "alternative dosage form" or a "therapeutic equivalent".

Mr Hancock told the BBC he wanted to “make sure [that] if there’s a shortage of individual drugs pharmacists can make clinical and professional judgements”, adding “it’s about having the appropriate clinical flexibility”.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:30:48 PM »
Philip Stephens' mother was from Kiltimagh

   Theresa May has lost control of Brexit
               This is what happens when parliamentary democracies shuffle off responsibility
         Philip Stephens

So this is what they meant by taking back control. Theresa May’s government has drawn up plans to allocate space on European ferries arriving at the British port of Dover. Trucks carrying medicines will get permits to make the crossing from Calais; so too, perhaps, those with components for vital business supply chains. Britain’s consumers have been warned. There will not be enough room for luxuries such as fresh fruit and vegetables.

Crashing out of the EU in March without a deal would see the restoration overnight of Britain’s national sovereignty. This surely would be Brexit at its purest — manna for those in Mrs May’s party seeking a complete rupture with the continent. Decisions on the opening and closing of ports and borders would be a matter for the Westminster government alone. Britain, in the lurid language of the Brexiters, would have cast off the shackles. So runs the theory. Now the reality is beginning to impose itself. Calais-Dover by a large measure is Britain’s most important trade route. It operates with the consent and co-operation of France. Whitehall officials estimate the inevitable post-Brexit imposition at Calais of EU checks and controls would cut traffic — imports to, as well as exports from, Britain — by more than four-fifths. The effect would be to choke off supplies to much of British business and leave stranded in France much of the produce destined for British supermarket shelves. So much for sovereignty.For the prime minister such horror stories — and this is one of many — are the only argument she has for the dismal deal she has negotiated with the EU27. It is not enough. The closer Brexit looms, the more obvious the prospective damage to the nation’s prosperity and security. Mrs May’s agreement would delay some of the consequences and throw a veil over others. Taken in the round, it is a charade — a hapless attempt to wish away the yawning gulf between abstract concepts of sovereignty and real national power.Those tuning in to the parliamentary debate on the agreement could be forgiven for thinking the only big problem is a so-called backstop arrangement to guarantee an open border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic.

Yet the then-Brexit minister Dominic Raab stated he didn't realise fully the importance of Dover port. Unbelievable Jeff.
Strangely, I get the feeling the DUP would be secretly pleased if there was another referendum and Brexit scrapped; it would get them out of the current boghole.

One of the DUP arseholes said recently that a no deal would really hurt the RoI, as if that would justify throwing 66 million people in the whole of  the  UK into absolute chaos which may include being unable to bury family members . The DUP are insane. 

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