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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 25, 2018, 07:05:08 PM »
Seaf - you might back me up but is the Gaeilge version on the ballot paper pidgin Irish with its Tá and NFL?
Should it be Toilím/ NI Thoilím? ??
Níl a fhios agam. Maybe Aontaim.

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 25, 2018, 05:30:07 PM »
20 years ago me and wifey could afford to buy a houseen Syf.
2 young people of similar jobs/incomes now can't in 90% of the State.
How is that better.
People on low incomes in 1998 were able to get Social housing pretty quickly.
2018......different story.
20 years ago you could get a hospital appointment pretty quickly -now unless you're at death's door you could have to wait up to 2 tears !!!!
Villages had shops and post offices in 1998.
Towns had loads of busy pubs.
But you continue in your little inexperienced (FG supporting?)bubble.

PS I'll concede on the motorway network where it exists.

'There is only what is and that's it. What should be is a dirty lie.'
Lenny Bruce

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 25, 2018, 05:25:29 PM »
It is funny that the media focus is on "Yes" versus "No". It is very hard to get either as an answer to a question in Ireland. This is because there is no "yes" or "no" in Irish.
Maybe "Why would I" and "Why wouldn't I" would be closer to the vernacular.

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General discussion / Re: Anastasia Kriegel
« on: May 25, 2018, 05:15:26 PM »
One of the saddest things this year was the murder of this young girl!

A 13 year old boy has been charged with her murder.

13 years of age!!!!

This really was horrific. And coupled with the Jastine Valdez murder the next week. These aren’t the sorts of deaths you associate with modern Ireland. I hope it’s just a terrible coincidence both happened so close together.

Looks like there was a sexual crime as well. Porn usage will have to be investigated.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8 Dark Horses
« on: May 25, 2018, 04:08:46 PM »
Nailed on

Dublin Kerry

Probables

Galway Monaghan

Maybes

Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan

Dark Horses

Meath Cork Clare


Clare are my Dark horse tip.

I really don’t get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we’ve a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway’s recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.

Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they’ve had for the last five to ten years.

Which is what exactly?

A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play. Sean Andy might turn out to be a great player but the rest of that back line has some big flaws that can be exposed with good attacking play. Which is of course part of the reason Walsh relies on such a defensive system, in turn limiting what Galway can do at the opposite end. But teams that set up like Galway usually hit a wall when they need to respond to something that wasn’t in the plan, like playing with an extra man in the league final or being blown away by Tipp, Ros or Kerry and having to attack more. And with all due respect, both your keepers are subpar too.

I’m just telling you the truth, which is more than the media and probably most Mayo or Roscommon supporters would tell you in the lead up to a match. Galway could win the CF but anyone who thinks they’re particularly ahead of Roscommon haven’t watched these Galway and Roscommon teams develop over multiple years.
The forwards are fabulous.
Backs conceded lowest number of scores in D1
Considering where they were 5 years ago that is not bad. 
If they do beat Sligo I would expect plenty of intinsity in the next match.

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 25, 2018, 10:25:22 AM »
One thing that doesn't get enough attention re abortion rates is insightful sex education. Teenagers shouldn't have to learn from porn.

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 25, 2018, 09:39:02 AM »
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/floating-voter-debates-the-eighth-with-mcguirk-and-noone-young-men-could-rebel-against-yes-36942319.html
He also said he would discourage a family member from having an abortion if they became pregnant as a result of rape.
“I wouldn’t condemn them if they did. I have a friend who was born as a result of a rape and I can’t look him in the eye and tell him he shouldn’t be here,” Mr McGuirk said.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8 Dark Horses
« on: May 25, 2018, 07:34:39 AM »
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.

Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
The standard in D2 was mediocre at best this year

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 24, 2018, 06:57:39 PM »
Article 8 failed completely . Thousands of women choose an abortion every year. Too many women have been forced into grotesque situations. The undoubted energy of the No side should be harnessed for the public good . The public service needs to reformed for example.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8 Dark Horses
« on: May 24, 2018, 06:41:22 PM »
Tipp, Kildare, Fermanagh.
It is hard to know what Mayo will turn up this year .

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 24, 2018, 12:12:52 PM »

The debate has depressed me for numerous reasons - mostly that I could see the same strains of populism and disregard for the facts that we have seen in other important democratic moments over the past decade all over the world.

The No campaign in the 2015 same sex marriage referendum, Brexit, Trump and the No campaign in this referendum might as well have all been the same campaign.

The same rhetoric, the same appeals to imagined victimhood, the same bogus claims of "bullying", the same Orwellian claims from pillars of the establishement that they are "anti-establishment", the same trolling, the same avoidance of the real issues.

These people don't take democracy seriously. They are con artists preying on the weak.
Trump and Brxit were 2 "populist" moments where the plutocrats plamased working class voters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8&t=11s
The Republican party are  tearing down worker protections via the Supreme Court. If brexit gos ahead EU worker protection will be dumped.

 

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 24, 2018, 12:09:05 PM »
Gaaboarders
Yes 43.4%
No 37.7%
Undecided 18.9%
Undecideds excluded - 53.5 to 46.5 Yes.

Does that "Sid" ever post on GAA matters?
He does. He had a great post about the Mayo quest for Shangri La last year

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:43:56 AM »
As I said before on the thread, I'll be voting yes.

The debate has depressed me for numerous reasons - mostly that I could see the same strains of populism and disregard for the facts that we have seen in other important democratic moments over the past decade all over the world.

It has also brought home how easily an issue can become globalised, both in terms of funding and coverage, and the pernicious effect that social media has on debate.

It is not a great time for democracy, and I think it is incumbent on all who are casting their votes tomorrow to reflect on how precious it is to be able to do so, without (in the main) intimidation or coercion. It is up to all to make sure we keep it that way, no matter what the issue.

That said, I think there some grounds for optimism. The Citizens Assembly is truly a ground breaking forum and is being studied by political scientists from all over the world. Whether we repeal or not, it has been a really brave experiment in direct democracy.

I also think the Oireachtas Committee tasked with making the recommendations also did a great job, and I think should be an example of the thought and gravitas legislators gave the subject. In general, I think the political class has handled the debate well without undue rancour. It might be a comfort to those who despair of leaving decisions to our politicians, that not many were trying to make hay out of this. This issue transcends partisan politics and in the future, should the 8th be repealed, I hope that attitude influences any proposed legislation.

In the end (and just to qualify, this is all just my opinion), if the 8th is repealed, we may be embarking on a new phase of our life as a republic. It is a bit trite maybe to describe it as being more grown up, but certainly the act of looking at and trying to resolve this issue shows a maturing of our attitudes. No individual ever gets to be the adult person they actually hoped to be - and I know those who wish to save the 8th may abhor the changes that may come. But, we will have changed as a country, aged, and looking at ourselves in a different light. That may be a harsh light, but I honestly think it will be better for us all than the darkness that has surrounded abortion for the past 40 years.

Whoever can vote, get out there and do so, no matter what cause you support - as I said before, the only regret anyone can have in all this is not using their vote.
I would agree about the Citizens assembly. It was quite innovative and it gave the politicians the confidence to deal with this issue head on.

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General discussion / Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:08:47 AM »
The Irish abortion regime and N Ireland are 2 of the biggest hangovers from British colonialism imo. The Irish church that emerged after catholic emancipation in the 1830s was more English Victorian than Irish. It promoted the use of English and had no cultural links to the Irish past. It focused almost entirely on sexuality rather than socio economic issues that were far more important to punters. It never addressed mass immigration. Fought tampons in the 50s. FFS
The mother and baby homes such as the one in Tuam  were based on English workhouses and staffed by religious.
England was the source of all evil and a handy location for offsite abortions.

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