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General discussion / Re: Election in Jan 2011! Now with Poll added!
« on: January 20, 2011, 02:12:08 PM »
From the outside looking in, i think Mammy/Granny will do ok as she seems to be telling it how is and hat may stand to her.

Ah lads, surely the Mammy's agenda is crystal clear.
Looking to do well by her boys?  One of them is virtually unelectable and the other is an awful eejit - just realised that doesn't clarify it at all  :D

Lenihan family motto: Always a Tánaiste and never a Bride.

The first step would be to become leader of FF and that would have to happen sooner rather than later as Lenny's stock is going down faster than a Cowen pint.

I actually think Lenihan is chronically ill and will be giving up very soon.

General discussion / Re: Election in Jan 2011! Now with Poll added!
« on: January 20, 2011, 02:06:13 PM »

I was under the impression that the Mammy wasn't going to run in the next election. If she doesn't, will she then be renamed the Granny?

From the outside looking in, i think Mammy/Granny will do ok as she seems to be telling it how is and hat may stand to her.

. The Mullingar hospital will become a big election potato as well.

people in Mullingar will have to come to terms with the fact that the money has all been spent on the AIB branch in the town and there is nothing left for the hospital. This is a message from the letter E and Jean Claude Trichet. 

General discussion / Re: Where's Wally (sorry Brian Cowen)
« on: January 20, 2011, 01:13:41 PM »
4 senior FF ministers resign because they know they can't be reelected.
Batt o keeffe, Killeen and Ahern were all humiliated publicly by telling the country there was no bailout when in fact Lenihan was talking to the IMF. 

The other parties will be delighted with this. FF shot themselves in the foot.
i honestly think it's pretty irrelevant, if they get more than 35 seats it will be a miracle, if they get less than 30 seats it'll be the same.  Today was extremely unlikely to change anything either way?

Labour's no confidence motion looks more interesting now though. Can Martin and the other rebels vote for him as Taoiseach after saying he isn't fit to lead de party?

FF have no shame, no morals and no regard for 'optics'. Their sole concern is staying in power.

FF have a bad dose of the political equivalent of "boidín foolish". They just can't stop at this stage. Ruin awaits.   

From the

Harte accused alleges coercion


A Mauritian magistrate has ordered the police complaints bureau to investigate whether Michaela Harte murder accused Avinash Treebhoowoon was coerced into admitting involvement in her death last week.

Magistrate Bonomally made her ruling after Mr Treebhoowoon alleged in her court for a second time in a week that police had tortured and beaten him while in custody.

Mr Treebhoowoon is one of four employees from the exclusive Legends Hotel in Grand Gaube who have been charged in connection with Ms Harte’s murder in her hotel room on January 11th last.

During his first court appearance last week, the 29-year-old said he was innocent of murder and claimed that he had been assaulted while in police custody.

The magistrate ordered that a police doctor examine him. The doctor later said he could find no injuries consistent with being beaten up.

Police said Mr Treebhoowoon had voluntarily admitted in an interview that he and a second co-accused, Sandip Mooneea, had killed Ms Harte when she found them trying to rob her room.

Counsel for Mr Treebhoowoon, Ravi Rutna,  today presented a motion alleging police brutality against his client and asked the magistrate to allow him to make a statement.

Mr Treebhoowoon explained that after his January 11th hearing, he was taken to the Major Crime Investigation Team (MCIT) offices in the capital Port Louis where he was subjected to police brutality for a second time.

“I was undressed and laid on a table. There was a bucket full of water next to the table. Continuously, my head was plunged into the bucket," said Mr Treebhoowoon. "At the same time, I was beaten up, thus forcing me to confess."

Mr Treebhoowoon, a room attendant, and floor superviser Sandip Mooneea, (41), have been charged with murder. Room attendant Raj Theekoy (33), and security guard Dassen Narainen (26), have been charged with conspiracy to murder.

Prosecutors officially charged Mr Narainen this morning with conspiring with Mr Treebhoowoon and Mr Mooneea to commit murder. He was arrested yesterday, a week after his three co-accused.Police said Mr Treebhoowoon and Mr Theekoy have confessed to the charges against them. The remaining two men are maintaining their innocence.The four suspects arrived at Mapou District Court under heavy police escort. They have been remanded in custody until February 8th when they can apply for bail.The funeral of Ms Harte, a 27-year-old Irish language teacher, was held on Monday at the same rural church in Co Tyrone, St Malachy’s in Ballymacilroy, where she married last month.

Mauritius is very culturally close to India and in India suspects are routinely tortured so that they confess. Remember Mauritius is a third world country heavily dependent on tourism where most workers are paid very little and petty crime in the resorts is normal. Mistreating the suspects also sends out a strong message to the rest of the population.

I just saw that Switzerland is rushing through a law that would mean anyone convicted of selling bank details to a third party will be liable to a minimum of 3 years on jail. This is a similar example of an establishment trying to protect its cashflow. 

whos the new foreign affairs minister

Seanie Fitz

General discussion / Re: US Congresswoman and some of her staff shot
« on: January 19, 2011, 09:46:41 AM »
The grace and dignity of Mickey Harte is what Tyrone is really about.
Not the rantings of a hatemonger. 

Name 3 decent honourable politicians you'd vote for in the Rep of Ireland?

Jerry Cowley, Joe Higgins, Michael D Higgins

Biffo wins but what does he win ? FF are all over the place.

General discussion / Re: US Congresswoman and some of her staff shot
« on: January 18, 2011, 06:37:20 PM »

"But listening to my 100% fact-free, FOX-infused tea-bagging fellow citizens, I feel as if I am foaming at the mouth in an Otto-men empire, barely holding back a good string of blush inducing invective.

“Why can’t I call them stupid?” I whine. My dear galpal advises caution, saying it’s not a matter of stupidity but class. And they might eat your fish.

I think it’s racism tarted up as class. Just look at the pictures. Or watch Congress on CSPAN. If I had been in Nancy Pelosi’s double-knits, I’m not sure I would have had such gavel restraint.

When Otto tells Wendy, his partner in crime played by Jamie Lee Curtis, not to call him stupid, she says, “Why on earth not?”

Indeed. The months of shameful tea-bagging behavior, goaded on by media rogues and the proud do-nothing Republiban Party had quite a culmination at the end of the health care reform debate.
First, you had the sight of tea-baggers calling civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis the “N” word.

Then they spat on another black Rep., Emmanuel Cleaver.

When Rep. Barney Frank walked by, they hurled a nasty homophobic name at him.

But that wasn’t the end of it. After the historic vote, someone threw a brick through the office window of Rep. Louise Slaughter. And her office received death threats against members of Congress and their kids. Rep. James Clyburn, the most senior black member of Congress, was faxed a noose. At least eight other Democrats reported threats or vandalism
March 2010

But Loughner was just an isolated nut. Wrong.

General discussion / Re: US Congresswoman and some of her staff shot
« on: January 18, 2011, 05:05:23 PM »
a oinseach

the US right have all tried to paint Loughner as a disturbed individual who acted without any input from anyone but following the passing of Obama's health act 10 Democrat reps were sent death threats. One had a noose sent to his home.
This  extremist atmosphere was fed  by the likes of Glenn Beck and Palin.   

GAA Discussion / Re: RIP Michaela McAreavey
« on: January 18, 2011, 02:19:25 PM »
The town isn't called tullylish - isn't is Lawrencetown or something - where did the club name come from?

General discussion / Re: Norn Iron Local Saccer - What is the point?
« on: January 18, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »
I thought the point of showing Norn Irn soccer on telly was to allow Jackie Fullerton to reminisce about his agreeable playing career with Distillery or Instonions or whoever it was.

This came out in November but is a scary taster of what may be ahead thanks to Fianna Freakonomics

“The truth is we didn’t need the denials to know what was going to happen. Everything we are seeing in Europe has a great deal of historical precedence and events are unfolding very much according to the standard script. I think it is pretty safe to make the following predictions:

1. Greece will be forced to default and restructure its debt, and the restructuring will come with a significant amount of debt forgiveness. The idea that it can grow its way out of the current debt burden is a fantasy. Remember that when countries are in conditions of financial distress, they face systematic disinvestment and capital flight, and as a consequence are never able to grow at anywhere close to the necessary rates – especially since any growth they do manage to achieve generally comes from additional fiscal spending, which simply runs up debt further.

2. Greece will not be the only defaulter. Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Belgium and much of Eastern Europe will also face severe financial distress and possible default. History suggests that when a country is experiencing a solvency crisis, growth comes only after debt forgiveness, and many or most of those countries will also be forced into debt forgiveness.

3. Political radicalism in these countries will rise inexorably as a consequence of rising class conflict. As Keynes pointed out as far back as 1922, the process of adjusting the currency and debt will primarily be one of assigning the costs to different economic groups, and this is never an easy or conflict-free exercise. Of course the less stable a government becomes as a consequence of this adjustment, the more likely it is to prefer very short-term solutions.* This Sunday, by the way, Catalans are likely to vote in an election in which the “current Socialist-led coalition government in Spain’s northeastern region will fall, a slap in the face for Spain’s prime minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero,”, according to an article in Wednesday’s New York Times. There will be a lot more of this sort of thing in the next few years.

4. So why not bite the bullet and just get it over with? Because the European banking system would not survive even the best-case restructuring scenario. As a consequence we are fated to witness several years of difficult economic adjustment while everyone pretends that these countries, under the right policies, can work their way through their debt burdens. What will really be happening is that European banks will aggressively rebuild their capital bases, with the unwilling help of the poor household sector, until they are sufficiently well capitalized to begin taking the write-offs. Only then will we recognize that some countries cannot repay their debts.

5. As an aside the European junk-bond market might take off. With banks crippled in their lending activities, Europe’s financial markets will probably go through a process much like that which the US experienced in the 1980s. American banks at that time were unable to fulfill their traditional lending function as they struggled to clean up their LDC and energy loan portfolios, leaving the way open for the likes of Drexel Burnham to create a massive junk bond market. This process will be helped to the extent that European policymakers try to avoid paying for the adjustment by liberalizing bank-lending practices.

6. Several countries, most notably Spain, will be forced to choose between giving up sovereignty to Germany, suffering extremely high rates of unemployment for several years, or giving up the euro. They will almost certainly choose the third option. There are still a lot of people who say giving up the euro is “unimaginable”, but that just shows a weak imagination. I especially remember in 2000 Domingo Cavallo dismissing the stupidity of foreign investors who imagined Argentina might be forced to suspend payments and devalue the peso – which it did in late 2001. More recently, on April 30, Cavallo warned Greece: “Don’t even think of abandoning the euro, whether temporarily or definitively, because that will provoke a financial catastrophe in Greece and various other countries in Europe.” Now there’s some useful advice, especially when you consider the huge surge in growth and the fall in unemployment Argentina experienced after it devalued.

This has been said before, but in a way this crisis is the European equivalence of the American Civil War. Once the dust finally settles Europe will either be a unified country with fiscal sovereignty firmly established in Berlin or Brussels, or it will be fragmented with little chance of reunion.”

Fair play to Peter Robinson and Tom Elliott for supporting the 2 families so publicly .

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