Connacht SFC 2020

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ballinaman

Mayo have reached all ireland semi final every year James Horan in charge. 3 week break now, ideal after 5 games in a row in terms of physical prep , hope it's Cork personally ...Cian O Neil is owed one 8)

Tubberman

Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
Mayo have reached all ireland semi final every year James Horan in charge. 3 week break now, ideal after 5 games in a row in terms of physical prep , hope it's Cork personally ...Cian O Neil is owed one 8)

Was he with Kerry when we beat them in 2017?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

galwayman

Quote from: Tubberman on November 16, 2020, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
Mayo have reached all ireland semi final every year James Horan in charge. 3 week break now, ideal after 5 games in a row in terms of physical prep , hope it's Cork personally ...Cian O Neil is owed one 8)

Was he with Kerry when we beat them in 2017?
He was manager of Kildare in 2017.
Was involved with Kerry in 2013 and 2014 if memory serves me.
Took over Kildare then in 2015 until 2019.

Tubberman

Quote from: galwayman on November 16, 2020, 09:40:22 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on November 16, 2020, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
Mayo have reached all ireland semi final every year James Horan in charge. 3 week break now, ideal after 5 games in a row in terms of physical prep , hope it's Cork personally ...Cian O Neil is owed one 8)

Was he with Kerry when we beat them in 2017?
He was manager of Kildare in 2017.
Was involved with Kerry in 2013 and 2014 if memory serves me.
Took over Kildare then in 2015 until 2019.

Oh sure Jesus, how could I forget Newbridge or Nowhere! :D
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

tyroneman

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 15, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 15, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....
nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Maroon Manc

Just so disappointed after that, didn't have any expectation going in and once I saw the dry day and Flynn out injured I thought Galway were in for a really tough day. Given Galway were against the wind in that first half thats the best half Galway have had in a long time in terms of kickouts, won a lot of primary possession where you'd want to be winning it. As for what happened once they won the ball in the first half hour it was nothing short of diabolical, couldn't believe what I was watching from a team who's been playing Div 1 football for a good few years, 6 of those 8 Mayo scores came from Galway giving the ball away needlessly; There was no exceptional defensive work from Mayo during that 1st half it was all Galways own doing, 11 of Mayo's 14 scores came from turnovers and I think just 2 of them was really good work from Mayo. Galway scored 0-5 from Mayo giving the ball away so you can see its a chiasmic difference.  Shane Walsh gave it away 3 times when under no pressure with ridiculous balls, Silke carrying it over the sideline, McDaid handpassing over the sideline under no pressure, Ian Burke losing the ball twice through sloppiness and there's a good few more too.

Galway way to over reliant on Walsh & Conroy who kicked 6 points from play between them. Ian Burke & Michael Daly both non existent from an attacking sense, there another 2 that lack pace too which is a clear problem for Galway; Its all about having a balance and Galway just don't have it, I do think Joyce will certainly give some of the younger plays a chance though. Paul Kelly looks the part, did very well in that first for a lad who's ontly 18/19; He won 2 marks over Eoghan McLoughlin and flicked another of Powers kickouts to retain possession, McLoughlin only started to become a real influence once Kelly went off. Sean Kelly exceptional too, the lad has everything you want in a defender.

The subs had little impact, Steede well off the pace as was Comer which is hardly a surprise although don't understand why Comer wasn't thrown in on the edge of the square. The Sice experiement didn't work either, in fairness Bradshaw had a good game and Molloy looled lively but overall PJ didn't get them right. You'd wonder would Finnerty have kicked either of those frees that Walsh missed, hindsight is wonderful but reckon he'd have kicked one of them.

Tommy Conroy looks a real find, kicked 3 good scores from play and adds much needed pace to that Mayo forward line; Don't think he was responsible either for any of the daft shots that Mayo kicked yesterday in that 1st half. Haven't seen much of McLoughlin as a defender but he's clearly going to be a huge asset going forward with that pace.

As for Galway its the 2nd year in a row where they've been decimated by injuries come the championship and I don't think its coincidental.






Durcan's yellow was deserved, he hit O'Donnell before th

macdanger2

Quote from: MayoBuck on November 15, 2020, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 15, 2020, 11:34:10 PM
I'd have thought Reape might have been called into the panel, might not be a starter this year but it'd help develop him as an option for next year. On the ah ref podcast, they were going on about one of the intermediate keepers, maybe kiltimagh?

Probably the mayo minor keeper from last year. Jennings from Ballinrobe.

Cheers. Would be good to have him and a couple of more young keepers brought in for some kicking sessions

highorlow

The end of that match was a replica of the Armagh qualifier match last year, even with the late frees. That day Armagh copped on to us near the end and did the press and I remember leaving the match saying to folk that had Armagh copped onto us earlier we were goosed.

Can't understand why more of our lads don't "show" for the kickouts late on. This is a mental thing at this stage and something that badly needs to be addressed. Going on for years.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

galwayman

Agree with a lot of that. We need to inject some more new blood next year.
We need another keeper in there along with Bernie Power (who was excellent yesterday) as Gleeson isn't up to it.
Young lads like Cathal Sweeney, Conor Raftery, James McLoughlin, Cian Hernon, Matthew Tierney will hopefully be in there in the next year or two.
Sweeney would inject a bit more pace into our half back line - albeit he probably needs to mature a bit physically.

I hope Gary O Donnell doesn't retire now (he will be 33 next year). Even coming off the bench if not an automatic starter he would be invaluable.
Conroy will be 32 next year but we need him to stay on also. He (along with Gary) is a massive leader in a team short on leadership.
I agree especially with your comment on our reliance on Shane and PC. Other forwards need to step up to the plate.
Ian Burke doesn't even try to take his on marker anymore. If he wins the ball his first instinct is to just pass it off and the opposition defence know that now. A marker can afford to be that bit looser as a result and hang off him a bit.
He isn't a scoring threat anymore.

Hound

Quote from: tyroneman on November 16, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 15, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 15, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....
nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player
That was one gobshite. And it was at a time when the black card was not in situ.

The rest all said, to a man, they would have done the same thing, and main debate and media coverage was around the sooner the better the black card comes in to punish this. Sean Cavanagh has let this go long ago, maybe you should follow his example!

Mayo weren't really punished, but they would have been had Galway took their chance to equalise as they would have had to play a portion of ET with a man less.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: tyroneman on November 16, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 15, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 15, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....
nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player
Sean Cavanagh got the full nine years because of Joe Brolly's emotional reaction- nothing more or less. IIRC, no intercounty player came out to say he was critical of what SC had done.
IMO, that's perfectly understandable.
Players in Cavanagh'as or McLoughlin's position will react instinctively if they see the game slipping away from them. Unlike spectators they can't sit back on their arses and worry about what armchair warriors are thinking.


Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

mouview

Quote from: galwayman on November 16, 2020, 10:27:52 AM
Agree with a lot of that. We need to inject some more new blood next year.
We need another keeper in there along with Bernie Power (who was excellent yesterday) as Gleeson isn't up to it.
Young lads like Cathal Sweeney, Conor Raftery, James McLoughlin, Cian Hernon, Matthew Tierney will hopefully be in there in the next year or two.
Sweeney would inject a bit more pace into our half back line - albeit he probably needs to mature a bit physically.

I hope Gary O Donnell doesn't retire now (he will be 33 next year). Even coming off the bench if not an automatic starter he would be invaluable.
Conroy will be 32 next year but we need him to stay on also. He (along with Gary) is a massive leader in a team short on leadership.
I agree especially with your comment on our reliance on Shane and PC. Other forwards need to step up to the plate.
Ian Burke doesn't even try to take his on marker anymore. If he wins the ball his first instinct is to just pass it off and the opposition defence know that now. A marker can afford to be that bit looser as a result and hang off him a bit.
He isn't a scoring threat anymore.

It wasn't GOD's best day out though, one of those games where he couldn't seem to lay his hands on a player without fouling.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: mouview on November 16, 2020, 12:31:36 PM
Quote from: galwayman on November 16, 2020, 10:27:52 AM
Agree with a lot of that. We need to inject some more new blood next year.
We need another keeper in there along with Bernie Power (who was excellent yesterday) as Gleeson isn't up to it.
Young lads like Cathal Sweeney, Conor Raftery, James McLoughlin, Cian Hernon, Matthew Tierney will hopefully be in there in the next year or two.
Sweeney would inject a bit more pace into our half back line - albeit he probably needs to mature a bit physically.

I hope Gary O Donnell doesn't retire now (he will be 33 next year). Even coming off the bench if not an automatic starter he would be invaluable.
Conroy will be 32 next year but we need him to stay on also. He (along with Gary) is a massive leader in a team short on leadership.
I agree especially with your comment on our reliance on Shane and PC. Other forwards need to step up to the plate.
Ian Burke doesn't even try to take his on marker anymore. If he wins the ball his first instinct is to just pass it off and the opposition defence know that now. A marker can afford to be that bit looser as a result and hang off him a bit.
He isn't a scoring threat anymore.

It wasn't GOD's best day out though, one of those games where he couldn't seem to lay his hands on a player without fouling.

McDaid too, poor again although would persevere with him as he's another player who's been plagued by injury since returning from Australia. He's just not played enough football, he has that ability to inject pace into that middle 3rd that Galway lack.

ballinaman

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

J70

Quote from: Lar Naparka on November 16, 2020, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 16, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 15, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 15, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....
nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player
Sean Cavanagh got the full nine years because of Joe Brolly's emotional reaction- nothing more or less. IIRC, no intercounty player came out to say he was critical of what SC had done.
IMO, that's perfectly understandable.
Players in Cavanagh'as or McLoughlin's position will react instinctively if they see the game slipping away from them. Unlike spectators they can't sit back on their arses and worry about what armchair warriors are thinking.

Yeah, they'll all do it, no matter which county it is, but is that the way it should be?

If someone is clean through and gets taken out, it should be a penalty in addition to a straight red (and all the extras that brings). The punishment should fit the crime instead of the current cop out. This "taking one for the team" bullshit might end.