Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope

[ONeill]

I'd have doubts about Bendtner and agree regarding Eboue, but the rest i'm warming to this year. Diaby was terrific against Utd. Why he then played him out wide v Man City is puzzling. I thought Arsenal are slowly showing signs of a side maturing nicely but there's still that wee bit of cuteness, or tactical fouling, that seems to harm them when others hit them on the break. Bring back Gilberto. No shame losing to Man Utd but City was a wee bit disappointing as it's hard to take them seriously. They'll implode soon.

Onwards and upwards - Champions League this week - always a great distraction.

[Dinny Breen]

Is there actually a dumber footballer out there than Adebayor, he makes Eboue look like Einstein, looks like he's going to get a record ban for his 3 acts of stupidity and fully deserved for the clown.

Man City remind me of Villa last season so expect them to implode after Christmas, can't take them serious at all, imagine if Wenger came out with this classic quote as Hughes did regarding the village idiot's celebrations

"He [Adebayor] wanted to share the moment with the fans in the corner with whom he has a special affinity. It is the same area that the Arsenal fans were in so there is the potential for people to see it as the wrong thing to do."

Gobshite!

[Archie Mitchell]

Is there actually a dumber footballer out there than Adebayor, he makes Eboue look like Einstein, looks like he's going to get a record ban for his 3 acts of stupidity and fully deserved for the clown.

Man City remind me of Villa last season so expect them to implode after Christmas, can't take them serious at all, imagine if Wenger came out with this classic quote as Hughes did regarding the village idiot's celebrations

"He [Adebayor] wanted to share the moment with the fans in the corner with whom he has a special affinity. It is the same area that the Arsenal fans were in so there is the potential for people to see it as the wrong thing to do."

Gobshite!

Wenger has been saying stuff like that for years. His number 1 excuse is "I didn't see it". He even said himself he does it to protect his players. What manager is going to condem his own player?

[filthydog]

Gooners fans really showed their true colours on Saturday. They completely over reacted to EA when he simply wanted to share his moment with them. This could have been a complete disaster on major scale. I think the stewards should be issued with tazers for all Arsenal games in order to control this unruly mob.

RVP tried to end EA's career with a wild lunge and was fortunate that EA had quick feet to avoid his reckless challenge.

[muppet]

Gooners fans really showed their true colours on Saturday. They completely over reacted to EA when he simply wanted to share his moment with them. This could have been a complete disaster on major scale. I think the stewards should be issued with tazers for all Arsenal games in order to control this unruly mob.

RVP tried to end EA's career with a wild lunge and was fortunate that EA had quick feet to avoid his reckless challenge.

I knew Alistair Campbell was on this site.

[AFS]

So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm

[Archie Mitchell]

So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm

A bit of common sense, even though he's guilty as hell. Can't ban him and not others.

[Eastern_Pride]

So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm

A bit of common sense, even though he's guilty as hell. Can't ban him and not others.

Ah yeah but there's always "making an example" of players. Now is the time to start a crackdown on this type of thing. No time like the present!

[slow corner back]

Pathetic cop out from Eufa, I fully expect them to fold on the chelsea transfer ban also. Uefa/Fifa are terrified of the G14 breaking away to form a super league

[ONeill]

Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.

[Archie Mitchell]

Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.

What contact? Only contact there was, was between Eduardo and the ground. Definately a dive, he cheated the ref, but hard for Uefa to ban him as would have to do it for other cases.

[slow corner back]

A dive is a dive O Neill, Eduardo was nailed on guilty and everyone knew it, ( even Wenger admitted it was not a penalty ) however when Arsenal threatened tying Eufa up with lawyers and precedents and nonsense like that Eufa bottled it afraid to upset a G14 club. There was as much contact with eduardo as there was with Dida when he did his dying swan at Celtic park a few years back only difference being Eufa had the balls to ban Dida ( mainly because Milan did not have the brass neck to appeal )
Eufa are terrified of the G14 and wil fold before Chelseas lawyers too when Chelsea put the appeal in. It does not make what Eduardo or Chelsea ( or lots of other players and clubs ) do right. Until footballs governing bodies deal with cheating in a firm proper manner it will continue to be rife ion the game.

[longrunsthefox]

Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.

Jees! O'Neill I expected better from you. was so clearly a dive

[ONeill]

You don't seem to understand what i've written.

There was contact - of that there's no doubt given the video angles - even UEFA admit there was on review. Whether it was a dive or not (most likely was) is impossible to ascertain in such cases and won't stand up on appeal.

If you think there was no contact, please leave the thread.

[clarshack]

there was NO contact. take the blinkers off.