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« Reply #7695 on: October 19, 2021, 09:38:12 AM »
He'll be no loss to the world but it would have been better if he lived long enough to have been convicted.
The reactions are so polarised. If it wasn't him it would have been about someone else.
How many civilians were murdered in the Troubles ? It goes on and on.
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« Reply #7696 on: October 19, 2021, 12:40:31 PM »
4 soldiers have been been convicted in the North due to killings, Lee Clegg being the most high profile who had his conviction overturned and he continued to serve for many years. The campaign behind him by people within the establishment was unreal. The attitude up here was that certain lives are less important, and we know which ones. It sickens my hole

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« Reply #7697 on: October 19, 2021, 01:16:20 PM »
4 soldiers have been been convicted in the North due to killings, Lee Clegg being the most high profile who had his conviction overturned and he continued to serve for many years. The campaign behind him by people within the establishment was unreal. The attitude up here was that certain lives are less important, and we know which ones. It sickens my hole

Its ridiculous the tories, the daily mail, the sun etc will have you believe its a witch hunt and why are the Terrorists not being charged completely ignoring the fact the prisons were rammed full of paramilitaries for decades whilst the soldiers remained untouchable

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« Reply #7698 on: October 19, 2021, 02:50:50 PM »
“Re-writing the narrative” also known as telling the truth.

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« Reply #7699 on: October 19, 2021, 03:30:57 PM »
4 soldiers have been been convicted in the North due to killings, Lee Clegg being the most high profile who had his conviction overturned and he continued to serve for many years. The campaign behind him by people within the establishment was unreal. The attitude up here was that certain lives are less important, and we know which ones. It sickens my hole

Its ridiculous the tories, the daily mail, the sun etc will have you believe its a witch hunt and why are the Terrorists not being charged completely ignoring the fact the prisons were rammed full of paramilitaries for decades whilst the soldiers remained untouchable

Statement from the family of John Pat Cunningham;

Following the death of former soldier Dennis Hutchings, the family of John Pat Cunningham wish to acknowledge that this is a difficult time for his family and they should be given time to grieve.

No family member will be giving interviews at this time.

When the time is judged appropriate the family will respond in more detail to the issues surrounding the prosecution of Dennis Hutchings.

In the meantime, it is important to correct the false and factually inaccurate claims that have been made in the media by some political leaders.

It should be noted that none of those who have commented have actually attended the trial and are clearly unaware of the actual facts of the case.

We respectfully remind the public of the facts that were pronounced at the trial, which were uncontested.

The Facts

1. John Pat Cunningham was shot and killed by 3 bullets fired by a British Army patrol on 15 June 1974, in a field in Carickaness Road, Benburb County Tyrone.

2. He was shot through the back and shoulder and endured an injury to his right hand.

3. He was described by a doctor to have been born with an incomplete development of the mind and was declared to be a person requiring Special Care within the meaning of Part 3 of the Mental Health 1948. In today’s society would perhaps be described as a vulnerable adult.

4. He was said to have had the mind of a 7 year old. He was known to be anxious and fearful around men in uniforms, and was known to have run from army, police and Priests.

5. A British Army patrol came across John Pat, which was led by Dennis Hutchings. He was in the front seat of the vehicle and was the first to get out. He chased John Pat into a field, closely followed by another soldier.

6. John Pat was shot in the back from a distance of 90 metres.

7. Soldier E, who was in the rear of the landrover, made a statement to say that he saw Hutchings follow John Pat into the field. Soldier E stated “By the time I reached the gate, Solider A (Hutchings) had already climbed over and was standing in the field.” Soldier E saw Hutchings stop in the middle of the field and said that he warned John Pat to halt, and that when John Pat kept running, that Hutchings cocked his rifle. Soldier E said he heard 3 or 4 shots and John Pat fell to the ground. Soldier E said he could state who fired their gun.

8. Upon the attendance of the Royal Military Police, the weapons of the soldiers who fired them, were seized. Sergeant Alan Mews seized the Self Loading Rifle serial number 59A.25891 with Sute sight number 5312 and magazine from Dennis Hutchings. When examined, the magazine was found to have only 17 bullets, from 20. This means that Dennis Hutchings fired 3 shots.

9. Sergeant Mews also seized the Self Loading Rifle serial number UB60 A81084 with Sute sight number 5263 and magazine from Soldier B. When examined, the magazine was found to have only 18 bullets, from 20, which means that Solider B fired 2 shots.

10. A report from RUC Detective Sergeant McBurney dated 10 October 1974, found that from the locations where spent cases were found at the scene, they indicated that Soldier A (Hutchings) had fired 3 shots and Soldier B had fired twice.

• It is factually inaccurate to claim that Dennis Hutchings had previously stood trial in connection with the death of John Pat Cunningham as has been claimed in the media.

 • It is factually inaccurate to claim that the killing resulted in an Article 2 ECHR compliant investigation. Nothing could be further from the truth, as emerged at trial.

• It follows that it is factually inaccurate to claim that Dennis Hutchings had been ‘cleared’ in any previous investigation since no proper investigation took place until recently.

• It is factually inaccurate to allege that this prosecution was politically motivated and part of a fictitious ‘witch-hunt’ against British soldiers. This claim by senior politicians impugns the professional integrity, independence and impartiality of those involved in the recent investigation and prosecution.

• It is factually inaccurate to claim that the shooting of John Pat Cunningham was as the result of a ‘split second’ decision. Anyone who actually followed the evidence would have been aware of this.

Many people will have noted that much of the negative reaction to this case within unionism and in sections of the British press has been determined by the fact that John Pat Cunningham, who posed no threat whatsoever, was an Irish catholic.

It is the status of the victim that has framed the reaction not the detail of the case. Shame on them.

No-one will be available for interview.

rodney trotter

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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #7700 on: October 25, 2021, 09:52:17 AM »
James Michael Tyler, played Gunther in friends. Prostate cancer, 59.

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« Reply #7701 on: October 26, 2021, 10:25:24 AM »
Walter Smith.
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« Reply #7702 on: October 26, 2021, 12:53:55 PM »
RIP Walter Smith, always struck me as a decent skin.

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« Reply #7703 on: October 26, 2021, 09:24:36 PM »
Sad news about Walter Smith, commanded massive respect even amongst supporters of Celtic like myself.

A great opponent and football man.

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« Reply #7704 on: October 27, 2021, 09:49:53 PM »
Seems to have been well respected and even across the Glasgow divide. RIP.
From doubters to believers again.

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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #7705 on: October 29, 2021, 12:43:07 PM »
*Removed* David Tweed and former Irish Rugby international and bigot
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« Reply #7706 on: October 29, 2021, 01:22:10 PM »
Wasnt he one of the protestors giving dog's abuse to children going to school about 20 years ago?
Holy Cross?


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« Reply #7707 on: October 29, 2021, 01:50:18 PM »
He was very active in the protests round Dunloy when there orange marches were banned. Could very well have been at holy cross but not sure. He was pretty renowned for not being a fan of "us 'uns".

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« Reply #7708 on: October 29, 2021, 02:02:09 PM »
Wasnt he one of the protestors giving dog's abuse to children going to school about 20 years ago?
Holy Cross?

Definitely the Catholic church protests in Ballymena back in the day.

Knew his brother who came across as a decent spud.


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« Reply #7709 on: October 29, 2021, 02:12:21 PM »
Oh aye Harryville too. He was very active in that and it got pretty vicious too. Maybe not quite as bad as holy cross but not good either.