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Steve Nicol, absolute Gent.

Alan Smith (the old Arsenal lad not the young lad who played for leeds and united), tried to jump my entire queue in Gatwick (or Heathrow, can never remember the difference) for a connecting trip to the Carribbean in a sort of, "dont you know I'm Alan Smith" sort of way.
The staff were having none of it and he ended up rejoining the queue ever further back that if he had just joined the queue in the first place. Didnt look happy, I was delighted!

make sure you watch ECW this week - it's an instant classic

tell me more!

Knock yourself out, although the lengths you will go to try to prove me wrong are bordering on freakishly obsessive 

My post was 100% correct. You know this.

But dont let that stop you fabricating a case against me as part of your little personal crusade.

I'll expect the usual lies and bluster, and no doubt you will make a good case against me.

I know the truth however, as do you.

[I can only speak for myself]

Saffron, whatever about the misunderstanding about posters being "banned" from OWC when they werent, I can only speak for myself from my own personal experience on there.

If your subsequent account is anything to go by, only you could "speak" in such a manner, since it is very much at variance with my own recollection.

If/when I get the time and the inclination, I will look again at your brief foray* onto OWC, for I am confident the record will show which of us is correct.



* - What is the phrase Danny Baker uses for such episodes? "Up like a Rocket, down like the Stick"  

My previous post is 100% correct. But I knew I could depend on you to remember MY experience more accurately that I could myself 

At least have the balls to call me a liar.

Saffron, whatever about the misunderstanding about posters being "banned" from OWC when they werent, I can only speak for myself from my own personal experience on there.

I joined, and posted a few polite posts in defence of the GAA. If I recall correctly Nicky Brennan was referring to an Ulster Championship game between a team from the six counties versus a team from the 26 counties. Brennan mentioned "football in Ulster" and he was slated on there by people saying he refused to say "Northern Ireland" as if it were some political stance. I just posted to explain that as the game involved one team from outside of "Northern Ireland" then it wouldnt make sense to say anything but Ulster.

Once it was out that I dared to make the slightest defense of anything GAA I was personally abused by several posters and every possible gripe Unionists can have with the GAA were thrown at me, and I was even slated on this site for not replying to all those gripes! The mods on there even stated that the GAA was a "racist organisation".

By all means, try it yourself, but I was most certainly not made welcome over there.

I honestly thought that if I remained polite and stated my point without aggression I might be accepted there, this was not the case.

So I left, and have been accused of running off with my tail between my legs since then. Truth is, why would I bother staying on a site where people are consistantly rude and abusive to you?

Doesnt make sense. Thank god this site is a little more tolerant.

Yes there are exceptions. And rows with guys from OWC, but not purely because they are from OWC, which is the big difference.

The people who claim to be victims on here dish out as much abuses as they get, if not more.
I dont want to get into the old Evil Genius versus His Holiness carry on again, but despite claiming to be victimised by the "usual suspects" of which no doubt I am one of, he has actually been banned twice for comments directed at me, where I've obeyed the site rules and instructions of mods. So who is victimising who over here?

Guys like Nifan prove that its about what you post, not where you came from, that matters on here. Obviously theres a tiny few who are always suspicious, but nothing like the sheer volume of hatred displayed on OWC.

As I've said though, thats just my experience, maybe others will have better experiences over there.

But be careful with your personal information, no amount of justification or "TF didnt mind" can excuse people posting the personal information of their critics, or indeed turning up unannounced to somebodies workplace to confront them over comments made on a website, and boasting later on OWC about how "timid" said poster was once confronted.

Roger, he said religion wasnt a reason for the republicans targetting people.
You pointed out 2 incidents which contradict this.

We get it.

Lynchboys general gist is correct though, with the few exceptions which you kindly pointed out for us.

Just popped in for an update on this thread. Has anyone lost an eye yet? 

On second thoughts, double cross must surely be 5times???

Not sure how I didnt cop it earlier.

Worst thread ever.

And who is this double cross fella?

Is that snowed under etc?

For whats its worth I think both Lynchboy and Nifan are sound, reasonable posters.

I'm half surprised the mods didnt delete the thread early on based on the personal nature of the title.

Nothing worthy of punishment, quite clearly, but based on the title alone, it was clear that it was bound to end in tears 

P.S. That's enough of the personal abuse - you don't know who you're dissapointing...

I can categorically proclaim that I am not dissapointed by that post EG 

But lets not be childish and drag a discussion from one thread into another with silly little swipes.

No need for it. Lets just try to get along.
Thats all I ask 

If, as I've no doubt they sincerely do, they really want GAA to be open to all, then the task of appealing or reaching out to people from my community is made considerably harder when it is accompanied by an almost instinctive suspicion, of the type which I encounter here all the time, even after 2000+ posts.
Just a thought.

I think the fact that you have 2000+ posts here says it all really.
Anyone from a nationalist background posting on OWC or another sports forum with naturally unionist tendancies, to make arguments for the GAA or nationalism in general, would not be allowed to make 2000+ posts. They would either be banned or hounded out by personal abuse, in owcs case, quite likely from the mods themselves.
You yourself have been banned twice for breaking the rules of the site (not for your views on the gaa or anything else) and were welcomed back as soon as the bans expired.

Most people on here are entirely tolerant of you and are happy to debate matters with you, as am I.
For people to suspect you are on here to cause trouble isnt exactly shocking. I was accused of the very same thing on OWC when they found I was making arguments in defence of the GAA. Similarly on the Shamrock Rovers Ultras website. The most polite defense of the GAA on there earned me an instant ban and a barrage of abuse.

Of course coming onto a gaa website to criticise the GAA and nationalism is going to raise eyebrows, thats only natural, but lets not pretend its a GAA website issue only.

I know I will be told this is none of my business and that I feel the need to snipe at your every post. Thats to be expected now unfortunately. I've learned to accept you wont take my posts as relevant and instead see them as purely personal. Nothing I can do about this despite however politely I disagree with your points.

But the suggestion that this site is unwelcoming to Unionists, coming from a poster who regularly defends the goings on in the OWC website, does make one wonder.

OK Lynchboy suggested you were Mylesnag, hardly a big enough deal to pretend your political leanings are causing you to be victimised.

I could be wrong, but from what I have seen, theres very few other posters, on here who said they believe that you are MylesnaG.

So you think Lynchboy should be banned for this?

Havent seen the papers about the programme so fair enough.

Thanks for clarfiying re the "riots".
No links so.