British State Collusion

[Keyser soze]

Sinn Fein aren't out on the street protesting about the arrest of their old buddy

Probably because this guy was a spy working for the british army.... as anyone with a titter of wit would already know.

Yes. And the Shinners want to keep as quiet as possible that one of their top men was selling out the gobshites down the line and ordering the murder of I.R.A. men to cover up his double dealing.
Needless to say Adams and Co never suspected a thing

Oh right so you already knew this and felt the need to make a snide comment about Sinn Fein, as is your wont.

The fact that he allegedly murdered dozens of people whilst in the employ of the British army does not give you cause for comment but Gerry Adam's lack of reaction does?

Weirdo.

He didnt have people plugged without running it past the higher ups in SF/IRA.  No one suspected him or Donaldson. The weirdos are the ones believing the shite coming from the cult

No, you are the weirdo, with your weird one-eyed obsession with SF.

Do you not suppose he also ran it past his handlers in the BA. And that the collusion of the so-called 'forces of law and order' might be more worthy of criticism than the actions of your 'cult'.
It's clear from your posting that you have an unhealthy obsession with SF.

Weirdo.

Of course he did which asks the question how many more undiscovered informers are there in the higher ranks of SF

Well not for me it doesn't. What it does ask is how many murders the state forces of law and order colluded in? Murders they were supposed to be preventing! You have an extremely weird take on this story. If they are undiscovered informers surely the question should be asked of the BA/RUC/MI5 as clearly SF do not know the answer.

You are consistent in having a dig at SF and making fantastical mental contortions to do on many occasions, why can you not admit that that is your sole agenda for whatever the reasons are?

Well it was Adams who came out and defended the murder of a man by saying "thats what happens if you inform in West Belfast"

Are you intent on proving my point?

[north_antrim_hound]

Sinn Fein aren't out on the street protesting about the arrest of their old buddy

Probably because this guy was a spy working for the british army.... as anyone with a titter of wit would already know.

Yes. And the Shinners want to keep as quiet as possible that one of their top men was selling out the gobshites down the line and ordering the murder of I.R.A. men to cover up his double dealing.
Needless to say Adams and Co never suspected a thing

Oh right so you already knew this and felt the need to make a snide comment about Sinn Fein, as is your wont.

The fact that he allegedly murdered dozens of people whilst in the employ of the British army does not give you cause for comment but Gerry Adam's lack of reaction does?

Weirdo.

He didnt have people plugged without running it past the higher ups in SF/IRA.  No one suspected him or Donaldson. The weirdos are the ones believing the shite coming from the cult

No, you are the weirdo, with your weird one-eyed obsession with SF.

Do you not suppose he also ran it past his handlers in the BA. And that the collusion of the so-called 'forces of law and order' might be more worthy of criticism than the actions of your 'cult'.
It's clear from your posting that you have an unhealthy obsession with SF.

Weirdo.

Of course he did which asks the question how many more undiscovered informers are there in the higher ranks of SF

Well not for me it doesn't. What it does ask is how many murders the state forces of law and order colluded in? Murders they were supposed to be preventing! You have an extremely weird take on this story. If they are undiscovered informers surely the question should be asked of the BA/RUC/MI5 as clearly SF do not know the answer.

You are consistent in having a dig at SF and making fantastical mental contortions to do on many occasions, why can you not admit that that is your sole agenda for whatever the reasons are?

Well it was Adams who came out and defended the murder of a man by saying "thats what happens if you inform in West Belfast"

That's what did happen so what do you want him to say
Westbrits like yourself to me are ten times worse than any hard loyalists up here
You want to focus on one side all the time
This thread is about collusion and highlights the underhand dealings of the British state during those horrible times
There is a consistent projection of self righteousness from one side of the conflict and evidence to expose the British state as bad or even worse than their republican counterparts is constantly being brushed under the carpet
Could you not start your own thread on SF bashing and knock yourself out instead of jamming up ones like these with completely irrelevant vitriol
Attitudes like yours is why there was trouble up here for years
You are a real bigot to the point of self embarrassment 

[Avondhu star]

British collusion isn't all about Loyalists being used tokill Catholics. It also includes British using republicans to kill Catholics. These killers were amply rewarded by their British masters for their dirty work. The people on here would have us believe that collusion was only on one side and they get upset at the thought that some of their own brave boyos sold them out for the Queen's shilling

[red hander]

British collusion isn't all about Loyalists being used tokill Catholics. It also includes British using republicans to kill Catholics. These killers were amply rewarded by their British masters for their dirty work. The people on here would have us believe that collusion was only on one side and they get upset at the thought that some of their own brave boyos sold them out for the Queen's shilling

Collusion was almost exclusively on one side. Read some history, you west Brit clown. The Brits did the exact same in every part of their 'empire' where the native people took up arms to get them out. As regards responsibility for killings, the British Empire makes Hitler and Stalin combined look like a pair of choirboys. You really are a revisionist shite peddlar

[north_antrim_hound]

British collusion isn't all about Loyalists being used tokill Catholics. It also includes British using republicans to kill Catholics. These killers were amply rewarded by their British masters for their dirty work. The people on here would have us believe that collusion was only on one side and they get upset at the thought that some of their own brave boyos sold them out for the Queen's shilling

WTF are you talking about

British collusion entailed furnishing info of nationalists suspects to loyalists paramilitaries for executions without investigation or trial

Having intelligence on the IRA through infiltration with payed spy's ( learnt through their involvement in the Cold War) is completely different and not the subject of this thread

Your deflecting to have a go same as the British spin machine has brought out more "stakeknife" BS this week to deflect from this
Do you not even know how the real world works
What happened during your childhood to make you so one dimensional
Pathetic

[Avondhu star]

British collusion isn't all about Loyalists being used tokill Catholics. It also includes British using republicans to kill Catholics. These killers were amply rewarded by their British masters for their dirty work. The people on here would have us believe that collusion was only on one side and they get upset at the thought that some of their own brave boyos sold them out for the Queen's shilling

WTF are you talking about

British collusion entailed furnishing info of nationalists suspects to loyalists paramilitaries for executions without investigation or trial

Having intelligence on the IRA through infiltration with payed spy's ( learnt through their involvement in the Cold War) is completely different and not the subject of this thread

Your deflecting to have a go same as the British spin machine has brought out more "stakeknife" BS this week to deflect from this
Do you not even know how the real world works
What happened during your childhood to make you so one dimensional
Pathetic

It's you that is one dimensional. Collusion also involved setting up Low ranking Provos as informers to be murdered by Scapaticci crew to protect the the real ones  Donaldson and Scap

[GJL]

Avondhu Star. There are people on here that have lost family members as a direct result of collusion between British forces and loyalist murder gangs. These people are reading this thread. They have lost fathers, brothers, grandparents, uncles. This is not a f**king game. So please take you stupid point scoring points and fcuk off. You not wanted here or are you welcome. Do one.

[Avondhu star]

Avondhu Star. There are people on here that have lost family members as a direct result of collusion between British forces and loyalist murder gangs. These people are reading this thread. They have lost fathers, brothers, grandparents, uncles. This is not a f**king game. So please take you stupid point scoring points and fcuk off. You not wanted here or are you welcome. Do one.

Do the people who lost loved ones because of collusion between thebritish and IRA informers matter to you at all or would you rather forget them?

[GJL]

Avondhu Star. There are people on here that have lost family members as a direct result of collusion between British forces and loyalist murder gangs. These people are reading this thread. They have lost fathers, brothers, grandparents, uncles. This is not a f**king game. So please take you stupid point scoring points and fcuk off. You not wanted here or are you welcome. Do one.

Do the people who lost loved ones because of collusion between thebritish and IRA informers matter to you at all or would you rather forget them?

You are a disgusting piece of shit. You are using people's deaths to score points. This is a subject that matters a lot to me and I will not debate or discuss it with you when you have demonstrated several times that all you are interested in is bashing a political party. f**k off.

[Avondhu star]

Avondhu Star. There are people on here that have lost family members as a direct result of collusion between British forces and loyalist murder gangs. These people are reading this thread. They have lost fathers, brothers, grandparents, uncles. This is not a f**king game. So please take you stupid point scoring points and fcuk off. You not wanted here or are you welcome. Do one.

Do the people who lost loved ones because of collusion between thebritish and IRA informers matter to you at all or would you rather forget them?

You are a disgusting piece of shit. You are using people's deaths to score points. This is a subject that matters a lot to me and I will not debate or discuss it with you when you have demonstrated several times that all you are interested in is bashing a political party. f**k off.

To debate you must be prepared to see both  sides, something you are clearly incapable or willing to do. As for bashing political parties I didn't know that was forbidden. So slip away there and talk to the wall

[GJL]

Avondhu Star. There are people on here that have lost family members as a direct result of collusion between British forces and loyalist murder gangs. These people are reading this thread. They have lost fathers, brothers, grandparents, uncles. This is not a f**king game. So please take you stupid point scoring points and fcuk off. You not wanted here or are you welcome. Do one.

Do the people who lost loved ones because of collusion between thebritish and IRA informers matter to you at all or would you rather forget them?

You are a disgusting piece of shit. You are using people's deaths to score points. This is a subject that matters a lot to me and I will not debate or discuss it with you when you have demonstrated several times that all you are interested in is bashing a political party. f**k off.

To debate you must be prepared to seventh sides, something you are clearly incapable or willing to do. So slip away there and talk to the wall

To debate you must have a certain level of respect for the person you are engaging with. You do not deserve my respect as all you want to do is use this subject to bash a political party. Your a disgrace.

[Hereiam]

Willie Frazer is alive an well on this board

[Main Street]

Fred Holroyd, the honourable brit, "who was forced to leave the Army because he raised concerns about an alleged shoot-to-kill policy", is taking legal action against the MoD and has the full support of a military surgeon witness.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-43157031

[grounded]

Fred Holroyd, the honourable brit, "who was forced to leave the Army because he raised concerns about an alleged shoot-to-kill policy", is taking legal action against the MoD and has the full support of a military surgeon witness.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-43157031

It was a dirty, dirty war. Unfortunately, for the most part those affected will never know the full truth.

[johnneycool]

Fred Holroyd, the honourable brit, "who was forced to leave the Army because he raised concerns about an alleged shoot-to-kill policy", is taking legal action against the MoD and has the full support of a military surgeon witness.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-43157031

It was a dirty, dirty war. Unfortunately, for the most part those affected will never know the full truth.

Because people in Whitehall don't want you to know.