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Curious as to the level of interest in going to the final.

I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019. 

Good Poll this.  Will be an interesting result.  I'm obviously neutral but i voted that i wouldn't pay the 90 if offered.  Ive been to quite a few football finals as a neutral too in the past.

I haven't attended an inter county game in 6 or 7 years. Nor do I have any intention of doing so in the future. When they address the elephant in the room then I'll consider going back.

The club scene keeps me going now.

Same as Mup. I used to go to all Tyrone games but haven't been in quite a while. I much prefer club games. Cant see me going to county games in the future now that I am out of the habit.

I'm going and bringing a mate from Dublin along, Corporate Freebie tickets on the way, other than that I wouldn't bother me hole and likely to be my last one for a while (even if offered a freebie next year).

Don't think I'll bother with any inter county match next year.

The blast or some other Mayo poster on here said it's all about the journey, bollicks to that it's about winning the "competition", tired of it at this stage, hopeless cause, no county will compete with Dublin again.

Think I'll just start to travel down home for the club championship matches from now on.

You probably need to add in lines "only going because of season ticket" or "only going because of a freebie"

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019.

Why aren't Dublin winning all the minor and U20 titles? Everyone is ignoring the most critical reason for their success in my eyes - Jim Gavin and his backroom team. Similar to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in another sport he just keeps serial winners ravenously hungry for further success. When he deems you're past your sell by date you're gone and replaced. Like Manchester United, Dublin never wanted for resources. They lacked proper leadership. Remember the pre-Gavin era whae Dublin were loud mouthed, goading, scoreboard pointing losers?

Of course the financial investment has improved Dublin GAA and increased participation rates. Has it really improved their senior football team? I'm not so sure. Participation rates have increased in Dublin but still lag behind the national average so population is far, far more of a factor than the caoching money.

Huge sponsorship (which was always there) has paid for the massive backroom team. I'd have way more issue with the sponsorship and the money that's spent on their county team(s). THAT's the truly unfair advantage. It'll never happen but there should be a cap on what can be spent on county teams and a central pool for sponsorship monies with every county getting an even share. If Dublin had no one to play would their sponsors pump the money in? Of course not so I think THIS is the area of real imbalance. Sugar Daddy sponsors would also have to come under the "sponsorship" umbrella. That's if we want to have a level playing field.

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 12, 2019, 12:23:35 PM

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019.

Why aren't Dublin winning all the minor and U20 titles? Everyone is ignoring the most critical reason for their success in my eyes - Jim Gavin and his backroom team. Similar to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in another sport he just keeps serial winners ravenously hungry for further success. When he deems you're past your sell by date you're gone and replaced. Like Manchester United, Dublin never wanted for resources. They lacked proper leadership. Remember the pre-Gavin era whae Dublin were loud mouthed, goading, scoreboard pointing losers?

Of course the financial investment has improved Dublin GAA and increased participation rates. Has it really improved their senior football team? I'm not so sure. Participation rates have increased in Dublin but still lag behind the national average so population is far, far more of a factor than the caoching money.

Huge sponsorship (which was always there) has paid for the massive backroom team. I'd have way more issue with the sponsorship and the money that's spent on their county team(s). THAT's the truly unfair advantage. It'll never happen but there should be a cap on what can be spent on county teams and a central pool for sponsorship monies with every county getting an even share. If Dublin had no one to play would their sponsors pump the money in? Of course not so I think THIS is the area of real imbalance. Sugar Daddy sponsors would also have to come under the "sponsorship" umbrella. That's if we want to have a level playing field.

they don't care about underage or the League

Kevin McStay :

"They empty out pockets, go on dummy runs. They will make 50-metre runs just to get a short kickout – and often won't get the ball at all. Sooner or later the tracker gets tired and switches off, and then the openings come. After that, as happened to Roscommon, the floodgates open."

Irish Times
"The sight of a once vicious rivalry surviving on life support is the GAA's primetime product on the third weekend of June in 2019."

You can add the second weekend of August to that

manfromdelmonte
"Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot
Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable"

Irish Times

"But if there was a moment that symbolised the state of the game, it was  Angus Lyons, making his Primrose debut, surrounded by seven blue shirts and relieved off the ball. Jonny Cooper helped him up off the ground as the blue shirts sprinted across the savannah. They led by 2-21 to 0-11 at the time and were growing stronger by the second. The message was clear. Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

"sooner or later Dublin will identify an excellent replacement candidate and will bring through complete players that we haven't heard of.
Brian Howard and Eoin Murchan just came into the senior team as the fully achieved thing. It seemed like these guys walked in off the street but, of course, they didn't. And there are many more like them waiting in the wings."

It's a system designe for Dublin. f**k competition 

Would never pay €90 to see 2 other Counties play.
Wouldnt go to an AI Final involving other Counties even if I got  free ticket.

I attended every football final not including replays from 1993 to 2014. I then got married All Ireland weekend 2015.  I haven't been at a final since and have little interest in this years game. I really don't like the condensed calendar or Dublin's dominance.

I was at the match yesterday as a neutral and to be honest I've no interest in going to the final, the pub and a few pints will do well

Was a club secretary for 6 years and had first dibs on a ticket. Never took up the option once. I could never justify, to myself, the cost of the day out (ticket, travel & food) to watch a match I had no real interest in. 

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 12:29:41 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 12, 2019, 12:23:35 PM

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019.

Why aren't Dublin winning all the minor and U20 titles? Everyone is ignoring the most critical reason for their success in my eyes - Jim Gavin and his backroom team. Similar to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in another sport he just keeps serial winners ravenously hungry for further success. When he deems you're past your sell by date you're gone and replaced. Like Manchester United, Dublin never wanted for resources. They lacked proper leadership. Remember the pre-Gavin era whae Dublin were loud mouthed, goading, scoreboard pointing losers?

Of course the financial investment has improved Dublin GAA and increased participation rates. Has it really improved their senior football team? I'm not so sure. Participation rates have increased in Dublin but still lag behind the national average so population is far, far more of a factor than the caoching money.

Huge sponsorship (which was always there) has paid for the massive backroom team. I'd have way more issue with the sponsorship and the money that's spent on their county team(s). THAT's the truly unfair advantage. It'll never happen but there should be a cap on what can be spent on county teams and a central pool for sponsorship monies with every county getting an even share. If Dublin had no one to play would their sponsors pump the money in? Of course not so I think THIS is the area of real imbalance. Sugar Daddy sponsors would also have to come under the "sponsorship" umbrella. That's if we want to have a level playing field.

they don't care about underage or the League

Kevin McStay :

"They empty out pockets, go on dummy runs. They will make 50-metre runs just to get a short kickout – and often won't get the ball at all. Sooner or later the tracker gets tired and switches off, and then the openings come. After that, as happened to Roscommon, the floodgates open."

Irish Times
"The sight of a once vicious rivalry surviving on life support is the GAA's primetime product on the third weekend of June in 2019."

You can add the second weekend of August to that

manfromdelmonte
"Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot
Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable"

Irish Times

"But if there was a moment that symbolised the state of the game, it was  Angus Lyons, making his Primrose debut, surrounded by seven blue shirts and relieved off the ball. Jonny Cooper helped him up off the ground as the blue shirts sprinted across the savannah. They led by 2-21 to 0-11 at the time and were growing stronger by the second. The message was clear. Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

"sooner or later Dublin will identify an excellent replacement candidate and will bring through complete players that we haven't heard of.
Brian Howard and Eoin Murchan just came into the senior team as the fully achieved thing. It seemed like these guys walked in off the street but, of course, they didn't. And there are many more like them waiting in the wings."

It's a system designe for Dublin. f**k competition

They don't care about underage? I'm sorry but you're not really making an argument. Quoting people saying how good they are is only a statement of fact - we're trying to establish why.

Of course Dublin have had advantages in terms of money and population. Always. The increase in coaching money is being pointed too as the changing point in Dublin's success rate but I just think that's far too simple. I think it's more to do with Jim Gavin and Jason Sherlock's tactical brilliance, a goalkeeper who has revolutionised the game, probably the greatest midfielder the game has ever seen along along with the sponsorship money and no travel expenses enabling a professional setup only a couple of other counties can match.

I may be wrong and the bohemoth will carry on regardless when Jim Gavin and co walk off into the sunset but I'm not convinced.

Seanie who is the greatest mf the game has seen?

I'm not even sure i would go to this final even if I was given a free ticket, never mind paying €90 for one.

I'm in two minds if I'll even watch it live, and I've never missed watching (or attending) a final since 1985.

Event junkies will ensure that the final is always a full house but I expect that anyone who wants a ticket for this match will get their hands on one. The inter county game is almost like a different sport now to that of the club scene which is one I'd much prefer. I have passed up the opportunity to go to this years final as I simply cannot justify the money. Early autumn time is my favourite time of year when club championships get into full swing.

Quote from: BennyCake on August 12, 2019, 01:53:45 PM
I'm not even sure i would go to this final even if I was given a free ticket, never mind paying €90 for one.

I'm in two minds if I'll even watch it live, and I've never missed watching (or attending) a final since 1985.

Same, Spurs-Arsenal is on at 4 and though I'd not have ever considered the possibility of watching soccer over a major football game, especially the final, then I might be switching over especially if the first half confirms the inevitable.

€90 is extortion for a ticket too.

Quote from: BennyCake on August 12, 2019, 01:50:11 PM
Seanie who is the greatest mf the game has seen?

Denis Bastick

Well said Seanie. No point debating with seafoid, he doesn't have an opinion of his own!

Some say Gavin could go at the end of the year if the 5 is done and it would be a massive job to replace him. Would Darcy go too or would he like a chance to be the leader? Sherlock and Dessie both would surely throw their hat in the ring. And there's always a chance a Vins man gets vaulted in (Conroy perhaps).
As well as lot of retirements there's also talk that two of our best players could take a year out to go travelling!
Although if we do win, and Gavin does stay, then I think we're in for a Cody/Harte type length of stay.
Not sure myself, but did hear Alan Brogan tipping him to leave, so there might be something in it.

I'd give plenty to see the Dubs in an All Ireland final. I'd pay €150 a ticket no problem, but would never pay over face value. Didn't get a ticket in '95 which broke my heart. I'd never take a ticket for a final not involving Dublin, knowing how '95 felt and that I wouldnt want to deprive someone from a competing county of a ticket.   

This being my 8th All Ireland final this decade, the handiest to get tickets was again Kerry in 11 and again 2015. They dont even travel for finals.

Quote from: TheGreatest on August 12, 2019, 02:51:38 PM
This being my 8th All Ireland final this decade, the handiest to get tickets was again Kerry in 11 and again 2015. They dont even travel for finals.

Considering the crowd at yesterdays semi-final the final will be 80% Dubs.

Surprised Horan hasn't called for the game to be shifted to the Saturday evening as thats when the Dubs always play.

Can't see anything other than the Dubs winning by whatever they chose it to be.

Since "couldn't care less" seems to be the consensus on this thread could anyone with a couple of spare hill tickets please let me know

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
Since "couldn't care less" seems to be the consensus on this thread could anyone with a couple of spare hill tickets please let me know

Is there much demand?

I've been hit up for the hurling ones, no football yet!

"Ten years ago, in 2009, it cost €70 for a stand ticket to the final, meaning the price has increased by 28.5pc." 

I dont remember a pay rise to match that in 10 years.

It's the compressed number of fixtures that hit the pocket hardest !

Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 01:53:43 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
Since "couldn't care less" seems to be the consensus on this thread could anyone with a couple of spare hill tickets please let me know

Is there much demand?

I've been hit up for the hurling ones, no football yet!

Dinny, Any spare tickets for the football final?

Quote from: delgany on August 13, 2019, 01:58:43 PM
"Ten years ago, in 2009, it cost €70 for a stand ticket to the final, meaning the price has increased by 28.5pc." 

I dont remember a pay rise to match that in 10 years.

It's the compressed number of fixtures that hit the pocket hardest !

Picking % like that is a nonsense though. If 2009 was the first year it was €70, then it's 2.5% increase per year (but they just hold back on passing on the increase).

It's been €80 for a good few years.

Ticket prices for the final are not the problem. 

Quote from: delgany on August 13, 2019, 01:58:43 PM
"Ten years ago, in 2009, it cost €70 for a stand ticket to the final, meaning the price has increased by 28.5pc." 

I dont remember a pay rise to match that in 10 years.

It's the compressed number of fixtures that hit the pocket hardest !

A few years ago semis were reduced by €5 but finals increased by €10. Obviously it's gone up €10 since.

But they know most people, especially from those counties not known for success, aren't going to quibble over paying an extra few quid to see their county win Sam or Liam. But considering AI finals have a lot of neutrals, the take-up from non-participating counties will be very low (well, the football final anyway).

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 02:11:14 PM

But they know most people, especially from those counties not known for success, aren't going to quibble over paying an extra few quid to see their county win Sam or Liam. But considering AI finals have a lot of neutrals, the take-up from non-participating counties will be very low (well, the football final anyway).

That's no bad thing.

If neutrals want to experience the big event, then I'd recommend them to attend semi finals for €40 cheaper! 
Certainly, off the top of my head, the best atmosphere at matches I've been to were the semi-final losses v Tyrone and Armagh and Mayo and wins v Mayo and Kerry.
Atmosphere at finals is always neutralised to an extent by the neutrals.

Quote from: dublin7 on August 13, 2019, 01:59:24 PM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 01:53:43 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
Since "couldn't care less" seems to be the consensus on this thread could anyone with a couple of spare hill tickets please let me know

Is there much demand?

I've been hit up for the hurling ones, no football yet!

Dinny, Any spare tickets for the football final?

I am heading to France for a couple of weeks but if anything comes my way, I will keep you in mind. AZ also looking.

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 12:29:41 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 12, 2019, 12:23:35 PM

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019.

Why aren't Dublin winning all the minor and U20 titles? Everyone is ignoring the most critical reason for their success in my eyes - Jim Gavin and his backroom team. Similar to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in another sport he just keeps serial winners ravenously hungry for further success. When he deems you're past your sell by date you're gone and replaced. Like Manchester United, Dublin never wanted for resources. They lacked proper leadership. Remember the pre-Gavin era whae Dublin were loud mouthed, goading, scoreboard pointing losers?

Of course the financial investment has improved Dublin GAA and increased participation rates. Has it really improved their senior football team? I'm not so sure. Participation rates have increased in Dublin but still lag behind the national average so population is far, far more of a factor than the caoching money.

Huge sponsorship (which was always there) has paid for the massive backroom team. I'd have way more issue with the sponsorship and the money that's spent on their county team(s). THAT's the truly unfair advantage. It'll never happen but there should be a cap on what can be spent on county teams and a central pool for sponsorship monies with every county getting an even share. If Dublin had no one to play would their sponsors pump the money in? Of course not so I think THIS is the area of real imbalance. Sugar Daddy sponsors would also have to come under the "sponsorship" umbrella. That's if we want to have a level playing field.

they don't care about underage or the League

Kevin McStay :

"They empty out pockets, go on dummy runs. They will make 50-metre runs just to get a short kickout – and often won't get the ball at all. Sooner or later the tracker gets tired and switches off, and then the openings come. After that, as happened to Roscommon, the floodgates open."

Irish Times
"The sight of a once vicious rivalry surviving on life support is the GAA's primetime product on the third weekend of June in 2019."

You can add the second weekend of August to that

manfromdelmonte
"Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot
Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable"

Irish Times

"But if there was a moment that symbolised the state of the game, it was  Angus Lyons, making his Primrose debut, surrounded by seven blue shirts and relieved off the ball. Jonny Cooper helped him up off the ground as the blue shirts sprinted across the savannah. They led by 2-21 to 0-11 at the time and were growing stronger by the second. The message was clear. Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

"sooner or later Dublin will identify an excellent replacement candidate and will bring through complete players that we haven't heard of.
Brian Howard and Eoin Murchan just came into the senior team as the fully achieved thing. It seemed like these guys walked in off the street but, of course, they didn't. And there are many more like them waiting in the wings."

It's a system designe for Dublin. f**k competition

My cousin was on the u 20 panel this year. Try telling him in the aftermath that we weren't taking it seriously.

As for the League, we've won 5 of the last 7, and what marked us out from our predecessors was taking a leaf from Cody and Kilkenny, and recognising the importance of using being as competitive as possible in the League as a springboard for champo. In fact, one of the only facts the handicappers had to mark us down this year was that we hadn't won the League.

But don't let facts outweigh your opinions, whatever you do...

BTW, I have a ticket sorted already for the final, so I won't be scurrying around as usual. If I hear of any going spare, I'll post up on this thread - but I really think that when the dust settles from this weekend and people start getting their head around Dublin v Kerry with the five in a row at stake, that they will be hanging from the rafters.

Some Hurley final tickets on general sale this afternoon.
Wouldn't have happened if Wexford or Limerick were involved.

Gone already by the look of it.

I live overseas and this will be the first one I will not go to since 2010.
Why pay a lot to see an uncompetitive game, with one result.
Btw, I was there on Saturday and Sunday last, and the games four weekends ago.
I truly believe that the 33,500 attendance last week was a clear message to the GAA, who most likely will ignore it. 

Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
Some Hurley final tickets on general sale this afternoon.
Wouldn't have happened if Wexford or Limerick were involved.

Same happened for the last Tipp v Kilkenny final. Was the general sale online or in the counties?

Quote from: joemamas on August 13, 2019, 05:02:21 PM
I live overseas and this will be the first one I will not go to since 2010.
Why pay a lot to see an uncompetitive game, with one result.
Btw, I was there on Saturday and Sunday last, and the games four weekends ago.
I truly believe that the 33,500 attendance last week was a clear message to the GAA, who most likely will ignore it.

They'll ignore it this year surely, maybe even next year. They'll pray Dublin get derailed....if not....panic, badly*

*By Panic Badly I mean drop prices by 5 Euro.

Quote from: Blowitupref on August 13, 2019, 05:10:15 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
Some Hurley final tickets on general sale this afternoon.
Wouldn't have happened if Wexford or Limerick were involved.

Same happened for the last Tipp v Kilkenny final. Was the general sale online or in the counties?

Online I'd say probably sent back by the 2 Counties?

Quote from: easytiger95 on August 13, 2019, 03:46:41 PM

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 12:29:41 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 12, 2019, 12:23:35 PM

Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
I don't think I will go to another final until the GAA deals with the Dublin funding issue
The competition is a joke.

I'd love to hear the real reasons why county managers resigned in 2019.

Why aren't Dublin winning all the minor and U20 titles? Everyone is ignoring the most critical reason for their success in my eyes - Jim Gavin and his backroom team. Similar to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United in another sport he just keeps serial winners ravenously hungry for further success. When he deems you're past your sell by date you're gone and replaced. Like Manchester United, Dublin never wanted for resources. They lacked proper leadership. Remember the pre-Gavin era whae Dublin were loud mouthed, goading, scoreboard pointing losers?

Of course the financial investment has improved Dublin GAA and increased participation rates. Has it really improved their senior football team? I'm not so sure. Participation rates have increased in Dublin but still lag behind the national average so population is far, far more of a factor than the caoching money.

Huge sponsorship (which was always there) has paid for the massive backroom team. I'd have way more issue with the sponsorship and the money that's spent on their county team(s). THAT's the truly unfair advantage. It'll never happen but there should be a cap on what can be spent on county teams and a central pool for sponsorship monies with every county getting an even share. If Dublin had no one to play would their sponsors pump the money in? Of course not so I think THIS is the area of real imbalance. Sugar Daddy sponsors would also have to come under the "sponsorship" umbrella. That's if we want to have a level playing field.

they don't care about underage or the League

Kevin McStay :

"They empty out pockets, go on dummy runs. They will make 50-metre runs just to get a short kickout – and often won't get the ball at all. Sooner or later the tracker gets tired and switches off, and then the openings come. After that, as happened to Roscommon, the floodgates open."

Irish Times
"The sight of a once vicious rivalry surviving on life support is the GAA's primetime product on the third weekend of June in 2019."

You can add the second weekend of August to that

manfromdelmonte
"Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot
Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable"

Irish Times

"But if there was a moment that symbolised the state of the game, it was  Angus Lyons, making his Primrose debut, surrounded by seven blue shirts and relieved off the ball. Jonny Cooper helped him up off the ground as the blue shirts sprinted across the savannah. They led by 2-21 to 0-11 at the time and were growing stronger by the second. The message was clear. Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

"sooner or later Dublin will identify an excellent replacement candidate and will bring through complete players that we haven't heard of.
Brian Howard and Eoin Murchan just came into the senior team as the fully achieved thing. It seemed like these guys walked in off the street but, of course, they didn't. And there are many more like them waiting in the wings."

It's a system designe for Dublin. f**k competition

My cousin was on the u 20 panel this year. Try telling him in the aftermath that we weren't taking it seriously.

As for the League, we've won 5 of the last 7, and what marked us out from our predecessors was taking a leaf from Cody and Kilkenny, and recognising the importance of using being as competitive as possible in the League as a springboard for champo. In fact, one of the only facts the handicappers had to mark us down this year was that we hadn't won the League.

But don't let facts outweigh your opinions, whatever you do...

In terms of the system they don't, ET.
This year the League was sacrificed for the 5 in a row.

I imagine that they can't leverage Dublin's population advantage to the same extent underage - the skills development seems to take too long.
Can't get 80% shot/score ratios at under 17. What do you think? 

Minor wins in Leinster in the funding era is nothing special
2003, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2017.

Kerry have dominated minor recently

u21/20 situation in Leinster is closer to senior level

2002, 2003, 2005, 2009. 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019

But All Irelands are still fairly open

Senior in Leinster is a procession
2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

Some things are only possible at senior level where the population and skill advantage can be maximised.  5 minute hand-passing drills back and forth to take the sting out of the game after scoring a key goal, for example.
Underage coaches want to win of course but they don't have total spectrum dominance.

Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 09:46:04 PM

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Because they're Dublin.

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 09:53:22 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 09:46:04 PM

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Because they're Dublin.

And they say the Dubs are paranoid.

I rest my case  :o

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 09:59:09 PM

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 09:53:22 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2019, 09:46:04 PM

Quote from: BennyCake on August 13, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Because they're Dublin.

And they say the Dubs are paranoid.

I rest my case  :o

What's paranoid about wanting the Dubs beaten?

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Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Because they're Dublin.

And they say the Dubs are paranoid.

I rest my case  :o

What's paranoid about wanting the Dubs beaten?

Do you not think it's a bit weird to always want a team to lose regardless of who they play? If it was a local rival fair enough, but surely you don't consider Dublin a derby game

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Over the years, I always wanted Dublin beaten. Now, I sort of want to see Dublin win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row, as it will show up even more that the Dublin funding is ridiculous.

People are already voting with their feet. I wonder how bad things need to get before the GAA cop themselves on. They've already made a farce of the whole AI championship. If they dont sort it out soon, people will lose interest big time.

Could I ask why did you always want Dublin beaten?

Because they're Dublin.

And they say the Dubs are paranoid.

I rest my case  :o

What's paranoid about wanting the Dubs beaten?

Do you not think it's a bit weird to always want a team to lose regardless of who they play? If it was a local rival fair enough, but surely you don't consider Dublin a derby game

Nope.

I always want to see Dublin lose.
I always want to see Kerry lose unless they play Dublin.
I always want to see Mayowestros and Galway lose unless they play Dublin or Kerry.
When Mwr play Galway my instinct is to be for Mwr :-[
No idea why.

I always want to see Laythrum win unless they play us even though the ****s hate our guts.

Quote from: Rossfan on August 14, 2019, 01:01:06 AM
I always want to see Dublin lose.
I always want to see Kerry lose unless they play Dublin.
I always want to see Mayowestros and Galway lose unless they play Dublin or Kerry.
When Mwr play Galway my instinct is to be for Mwr :-[
No idea why.

I always want to see Laythrum win unless they play us even though the ****s hate our guts.

I wanted Roscommon to win in 1962 and in 1980, not because I wanted Kerry to lose but because I had never seen Roscommon win anything.

Is John O'Connor still around (wasn't he Roscommon's answer to Mario Kempes?).

https://twitter.com/Paul_Coady10/status/1160989116089229313 (https://twitter.com/Paul_Coady10/status/1160989116089229313)

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

You need to take a more active role in your club if that is the case.
Clubs have to pay for the two tickets they are sent

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

You need to take a more active role in your club if that is the case.
Clubs have to pay for the two tickets they are sent

I am too active in anything, just never occured to me they paid for them.

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Is John O'Connor still around (wasn't he Roscommon's answer to Mario Kempes?).

Was in America at one stage.
Obviously ended up in Donegal as he had a son in the Donegal panel recently.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsors, dignitaries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

The younger brother was friendly with the son of an ex GAA president and it was a serious amount of free tickets that they got. It was way more than 50 IIRC.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsors, dignitaries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

The younger brother was friendly with the son of an ex GAA president and it was a serious amount of free tickets that they got. It was way more than 50 IIRC.

Yes the former presidents get loads of free tickets all right. Hope that continues!!!

On top of the ticket price hike it's €7 for the All Ireland final program a increase of €2 from last year.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 18, 2019, 11:36:29 PM
On top of the ticket price hike it's €7 for the All Ireland final program a increase of €2 from last year.

Was £5 for the dead rubber between Tyrone and Dublin in Omagh, so €7 doesn't seem as bad for an All-Ireland Final lol. Anyway if you really want to save money download an app called 'GAA Match Programmes' and you can download programmes for £0.99.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 18, 2019, 11:36:29 PM
On top of the ticket price hike it's €7 for the All Ireland final program a increase of €2 from last year.

I wonder how much a 1982 match program would sell for now?
Or is there a market for such memorabilia...

Had a look on ebay and couldn't find a program, but did find this yoke

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Seller (from Omagh!) looking for £29.50 plus £4.95 postage

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On top of the ticket price hike it's €7 for the All Ireland final program a increase of €2 from last year.

I wonder how much a 1982 match program would sell for now?
Or is there a market for such memorabilia...

Had a look on ebay and couldn't find a program, but did find this yoke

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aIkAAOSwxw1ZrGop/s-l1600.jpg)

Seller (from Omagh!) looking for £29.50 plus £4.95 postage

Probably to pay for all the hankies to deal with the crying since the Kerry game.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

Morto.

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

Morto.

I am terribly embarrassed about the whole thing!!

Il add it to the GAA wiki 101 - no. 86, club AI tickets are not free. . .

Mup the straw Clutcher

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The one thing no one has mentioned is it a case the GAA are compensating cost for the amount of free tickets given away. i.e 2 to every club, sponsers, dignataries etc. Id say its a fair few thousand.

Eh? Clubs dont get free tickets.

Are two tickets not sent out to every club and do they pay for them? i thought they were free all these years.

Morto.

I am terribly embarrassed about the whole thing!!

Il add it to the GAA wiki 101 - no. 86, club AI tickets are not free. . .

Mup the straw Clutcher

So you should be.

They are not sent to the club's,they are sent to the county boards where a member of the club's committee can then pick them up(with cheque book in hand).

Tickets were easy to get hold of on Sunday around Croke Park. I know of some which were  sold at less than face value as they were afraid of not shifting them at all.

Good.
How/Why did the cnuts get them in the first place?

QuoteTickets were easy to get hold of on Sunday around Croke Park. I know of some which were  sold at less than face value as they were afraid of not shifting them at all.

The GAA are really biting the hand that feeds them now.

€7 for a programme on Sunday as well. I'd say they did't sell too many. Everyone giving out about that and when they heard the cost they were telling the sellers to keep them.

€5 for football quailifer round 1 games, basically 
8 sets of team sheets, mugging people to boost the income!

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Tickets were easy to get hold of on Sunday around Croke Park. I know of some which were  sold at less than face value as they were afraid of not shifting them at all.

Warns my heart

Friend of mine got 2 davin end tickets for 40 euro each about an hour before throw in, he said there were any amount of tickets available below face value. I think the football may be the same, who is going to pay 90euro for a ticket to a game we already know the result of.

Quote from: giveballaghback on August 20, 2019, 11:30:22 PM
Friend of mine got 2 davin end tickets for 40 euro each about an hour before throw in, he said there were any amount of tickets available below face value. I think the football may be the same, who is going to pay 90euro for a ticket to a game we already know the result of.

Hurling final had loads of tickets on sale on the day. Thats unlikely to be case for the football final, county allocations will be around 60k with the rest going to sponsors,press,educational bodies etc.  This final is seen as "historic event" and the Dubs would snap up 60K tickets on their own if they could.

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Quote from: giveballaghback on August 20, 2019, 11:30:22 PM
Friend of mine got 2 davin end tickets for 40 euro each about an hour before throw in, he said there were any amount of tickets available below face value. I think the football may be the same, who is going to pay 90euro for a ticket to a game we already know the result of.

Hurling final had loads of tickets on sale on the day. Thats unlikely to be case for the football final, county allocations will be around 60k with the rest going to sponsors,press,educational bodies etc.  This final is seen as "historic event" and the Dubs would snap up 60K tickets on their own if they could.

The marketing team are happy to play the historic event card for this final. But that will wear off for next year and then win no.7 in 2021.

Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2019, 02:33:38 AM

The marketing team are happy to play the historic event card for this final. But that will wear off for next year and then win no.7 in 2021.

Ah, if we do 5, we won't do 6 in a row.
Gavin gone
Cluxton, Philly, Fitzy, Cian, MDMA, Andrews, Berno, Kev Mac retired
Kilkenny, Con and Costello going hurling
Fenton and Howard going travelling for a year

Hopefully Cooper, McCarthy, Jack, Small, Scully, Rock and Mannion will still hang around so we can give Leinster a lash at least, but don't be putting any money on 6 in a row!

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Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2019, 02:33:38 AM

The marketing team are happy to play the historic event card for this final. But that will wear off for next year and then win no.7 in 2021.

Ah, if we do 5, we won't do 6 in a row.
Gavin gone
Cluxton, Philly, Fitzy, Cian, MDMA, Andrews, Berno, Kev Mac retired
Kilkenny, Con and Costello going hurling
Fenton and Howard going travelling for a year

Hopefully Cooper, McCarthy, Jack, Small, Scully, Rock and Mannion will still hang around so we can give Leinster a lash at least, but don't be putting any money on 6 in a row!

Do you really expect Gavin to call time on it if they win in a fortnight? I see him being another Cody, Harte, Boylan who will be there for the next decade.

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Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2019, 02:33:38 AM

The marketing team are happy to play the historic event card for this final. But that will wear off for next year and then win no.7 in 2021.

Ah, if we do 5, we won't do 6 in a row.
Gavin gone
Cluxton, Philly, Fitzy, Cian, MDMA, Andrews, Berno, Kev Mac retired
Kilkenny, Con and Costello going hurling
Fenton and Howard going travelling for a year

Hopefully Cooper, McCarthy, Jack, Small, Scully, Rock and Mannion will still hang around so we can give Leinster a lash at least, but don't be putting any money on 6 in a row!

Do you really expect Gavin to call time on it if they win in a fortnight? I see him being another Cody, Harte, Boylan who will be there for the next decade.

I agree. Sure hasn't he agreed to stay until 2021 at the very latest.

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I agree. Sure hasn't he agreed to stay until 2021 at the very latest.

One thing you can bet the house on, Gavin will not go at the end of an agreed term. There'd be too much noise and speculation.
Regardless of what the term is, it'll be reviewed every year and never be allowed to have less than 12 months remaining, but he could leave at the end of any year.
His term was supposed to be up at end of 2019, but at end of 2018, it was extended until end of 2021.

Doesn't matter who is in charge , there are conveyer belts of special groups of players for the next ten years , Dublin will keep winning all Ireland's for the forseeable . The most interesting aspect is going to be when do Dublin eventually admit something will have to be done to even up the score

Dublin don't have to admit anything.
Up to officialdom in the other 31 to discover their testicles and do something about it.
Or are we back to "mean spirited and decisive" and Co Boards being "advised" how to vote?

Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
Dublin don't have to admit anything.
Up to officialdom in the other 31 to discover their testicles and do something about it.
Or are we back to "mean spirited and decisive" and Co Boards being "advised" how to vote?

+1

Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
Dublin don't have to admit anything.
Up to officialdom in the other 31 to discover their testicles and do something about it.
Or are we back to "mean spirited and decisive" and Co Boards being "advised" how to vote?

County boards are advised how to vote and I don't blame the cb delegates at all that's like blaming the foreign labourers on cheap labour , blame the basta s who dangle the cheque book.

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Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
Dublin don't have to admit anything.
Up to officialdom in the other 31 to discover their testicles and do something about it.
Or are we back to "mean spirited and decisive" and Co Boards being "advised" how to vote?

County boards are advised how to vote and I don't blame the cb delegates at all that's like blaming the foreign labourers on cheap labour , blame the basta s who dangle the cheque book.

Indeed as was the case for the introduction of a round robin group stage for the last 8 of the senior championship and getting rid of the U21 and U18 All Ireland championships.

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Quote from: giveballaghback on August 20, 2019, 11:30:22 PM
Friend of mine got 2 davin end tickets for 40 euro each about an hour before throw in, he said there were any amount of tickets available below face value. I think the football may be the same, who is going to pay 90euro for a ticket to a game we already know the result of.

Hurling final had loads of tickets on sale on the day. Thats unlikely to be case for the football final, county allocations will be around 60k with the rest going to sponsors,press,educational bodies etc.  This final is seen as "historic event" and the Dubs would snap up 60K tickets on their own if they could.

The marketing team are happy to play the historic event card for this final. But that will wear off for next year and then win no.7 in 2021.

Yes if Dublin are going for 6,7 or 8 in a row in the years ahead i would expect AI finals tickets to be widely available on match day and probably sold on general sale as the last number of Tipp v Kilkenny hurling finals have been.

Quote from: larryin89 on August 21, 2019, 12:52:24 PM
Doesn't matter who is in charge , there are conveyer belts of special groups of players for the next ten years , Dublin will keep winning all Ireland's for the forseeable . The most interesting aspect is going to be when do Dublin eventually admit something will have to be done to even up the score

I wouldn't underestimate the importance of Jim Gavin and he won't be easily replaced. Anyway i don't see him leaving anytime soon.

I see a lot of people here wanting Dublin to own up?

Own up to what?

Taking Loads of money legally given by headquarters and the government?


Dublin don't need to apologise to anybody?

What would any other county have done?

On top of being over sponsored, from the top down to grass roots. Headquarters decided that Soccer and especially Rugby had to be taken head on in Capital and horsed money into the game there.

Luckily they don't have the same problem here with Rugby, although Soccer is strong in Mayo. So no need the horse a few million our way.

Quote from: larryin89 on August 21, 2019, 12:52:24 PM
Doesn't matter who is in charge , there are conveyer belts of special groups of players for the next ten years , Dublin will keep winning all Ireland's for the forseeable . The most interesting aspect is going to be when do Dublin eventually admit something will have to be done to even up the score

Gaelic football is broken
The GAA broke it

"Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it."

Flannery O'Connor

What happens in counties when a club team dominates? Nemo Cross and the others? It comes in cycles, that team eventually becomes old, the other teams develop and it changes hands. No different with Dublin

Crossmaglen hasn't got 1.4 million people.
Seriously though it certainly hasn't got 2.6 times the population of the next biggest club or 10/12 times the population of the average club in Co Armagh.

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2019, 06:06:48 PM
I see a lot of people here wanting Dublin to own up?

Own up to what?

Taking Loads of money legally given by headquarters and the government?


Dublin don't need to apologise to anybody?

What would any other county have done?

On top of being over sponsored, from the top down to grass roots. Headquarters decided that Soccer and especially Rugby had to be taken head on in Capital and horsed money into the game there.

Luckily they don't have the same problem here with Rugby, although Soccer is strong in Mayo. So no need the horse a few million our way.

You have no idea.  ::) Try being from where I am!

Back to Dublin - participation rates in the capital are still lagging behind the rest of the country despite increasing significantly with the money pumped in. Basing decisions on the fortunes of county teams is a risky business.

Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
Crossmaglen hasn't got 1.4 million people.
Seriously though it certainly hasn't got 2.6 times the population of the next biggest club or 10/12 times the population of the average club in Co Armagh.

Cross has about the average population for an Armagh club and is in a parish with 3 other clubs.
Cross' is better compared to Kilkenny, who wear similar kit, who haven't a great population advantage.

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Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
Crossmaglen hasn't got 1.4 million people.
Seriously though it certainly hasn't got 2.6 times the population of the next biggest club or 10/12 times the population of the average club in Co Armagh.

Cross has about the average population for an Armagh club and is in a parish with 3 other clubs.
Cross' is better compared to Kilkenny, who wear similar kit, who haven't a great population advantage.

Why are cross so successful tho?

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Quote from: armaghniac on August 22, 2019, 12:15:33 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
Crossmaglen hasn't got 1.4 million people.
Seriously though it certainly hasn't got 2.6 times the population of the next biggest club or 10/12 times the population of the average club in Co Armagh.

Cross has about the average population for an Armagh club and is in a parish with 3 other clubs.
Cross' is better compared to Kilkenny, who wear similar kit, who haven't a great population advantage.

Why are cross so successful tho?

what was the pre hernan history of Cross . were they always dominant ?

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Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
Crossmaglen hasn't got 1.4 million people.
Seriously though it certainly hasn't got 2.6 times the population of the next biggest club or 10/12 times the population of the average club in Co Armagh.

Cross has about the average population for an Armagh club and is in a parish with 3 other clubs.
Cross' is better compared to Kilkenny, who wear similar kit, who haven't a great population advantage.

Why are cross so successful tho?

what was the pre hernan history of Cross . were they always dominant ?

Cross' had more Armagh championships than anyone else even before their modern run, they generally won 3 or 4 each decade, but in the 1950s Harps were dominant and Clan na nGael in the 70s.

Quote from: larryin89 on August 21, 2019, 12:52:24 PM
Doesn't matter who is in charge , there are conveyer belts of special groups of players for the next ten years , Dublin will keep winning all Ireland's for the forseeable . The most interesting aspect is going to be when do Dublin eventually admit something will have to be done to even up the score

If Pillar Caffrey or Tommy 'Tom' Car were in charge things might be different.