Brexit.

[johnnycool]

Being realistic  if there was one tomorrow the likelihood would be that Remain would win by around 5-10 points

But the Brexiteers would be goin nowhere for the next few election cycles and could easily become a majority again.

You think? I'd say if it was rerun it would be very, very, very close and would not be surprised if Leave won again.

That would be fine as then people voting both ways would then have a better understanding of the impact of their decision as they'd be fully aware of the terms on offer from the EU rather than the blind vote that occured in 2016.

[seafoid]

Being realistic  if there was one tomorrow the likelihood would be that Remain would win by around 5-10 points

But the Brexiteers would be goin nowhere for the next few election cycles and could easily become a majority again.

You think? I'd say if it was rerun it would be very, very, very close and would not be surprised if Leave won again.

Leave hasn't a hope of winning. You can tell because the tories refuse a General Election and won't countenance a referendum

[maddog]

Fairly convinced it would be 60/40 to remain.

[trailer]

Being realistic  if there was one tomorrow the likelihood would be that Remain would win by around 5-10 points

But the Brexiteers would be goin nowhere for the next few election cycles and could easily become a majority again.

You think? I'd say if it was rerun it would be very, very, very close and would not be surprised if Leave won again.

Leave hasn't a hope of winning. You can tell because the tories refuse a General Election and won't countenance a referendum

You could be right, but they didn't have much of a hope of winning the first one either.

[Hound]

Fairly convinced it would be 60/40 to remain.

Not sure of that, judging by the euros. It was a great chance for the people to make themselves heard in what was a meaningless election but effectively a very important opinion poll. This was the Guardian's synopsis:

The results of the European elections told us exactly what we already knew: that the country is hopelessly split. Just over a third of the country want a no-deal Brexit and roughly another 40% want to remain in the EU. The remainder want to leave with a deal, though they are unable to say exactly what kind of deal, just not the one that was offered.

Plus telling people they didn't understand what they initially voted for will backfire badly!
Again, it'll probably come down to who runs the best campaign, and not sure that's a strong point of the remainers...

[Insane Bolt]

The dirty dozen has now become 13😂, a party in total disarray.....and yet Labour still unelectable with Corbyn at the helm. If he really cared about the country as he claims, he should step aside and let someone like Starmer lead them to number 10.....but I don't hold out much hope.

[Franko]

We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.

[screenexile]

We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.

The first decent thing Teresa May has done in a long time was get him to confirm that!!!

Totally fucks the Brexiteers up there is no way that the country wants to lose the NHS not a f**king chance and now Remain have something concrete to use for the next election/confirmatory vote etc.

Video of Farage talking about moving to an insurance type system as well this should be gold to remain politicians and they need to drive it home!!

[seafoid]

We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.

The first decent thing Teresa May has done in a long time was get him to confirm that!!!

Totally f**ks the Brexiteers up there is no way that the country wants to lose the NHS not a f**king chance and now Remain have something concrete to use for the next election/confirmatory vote etc.

Video of Farage talking about moving to an insurance type system as well this should be gold to remain politicians and they need to drive it home!!

If the Remain crowd can't hammer Brexit over the NHS and chlorinated listeria they should give up

There are no health reasons why you couldn't eat chickens that have been washed in chlorinated water." - Liam Fox (Nov 2017)

'British microbiologists find chlorine washing does not kill listeria and salmonella.' (May 2018)

[Franko]

We didn't need to hear it as we knew it already... but the prize for no deal is that the US gets it's grubby mitts on the NHS.

Confirmed today by the orangutan.

Can wait until the legal US drug dealing conglomerates get in the door here.

Divide and conquer.

The first decent thing Teresa May has done in a long time was get him to confirm that!!!

Totally f**ks the Brexiteers up there is no way that the country wants to lose the NHS not a f**king chance and now Remain have something concrete to use for the next election/confirmatory vote etc.

Video of Farage talking about moving to an insurance type system as well this should be gold to remain politicians and they need to drive it home!!

Genuinely think that a lot of these fcukwits have become so entrenched that if you showed them that Brexit irrefutably meant certain death, they'd chance it anyway.  For t'save uh'country.

[bennydorano]

I think Boris will reverse the long trend of favourites not winning and win.

He will try to deliver a no-deal Brexit by circumventing Parliament - it is the only way it CAN be delivered in the current situation, you can be sure that that  is the manoeuvring going on in the background with all Brexit hardliners.

Gove is the most capable and slippiest of all imo.

Edit - just realised no matter what manoeuvres they try to pull they'll still have to pass legislation in some form so they can't totally circumvent HP.

Just read on Twitter there that Rabb (& ERG in general) are advocating Parliament be proroged in late October to ensure UK leaves without Parliament being able to halt it.

[Tony Baloney]

I think Boris will reverse the long trend of favourites not winning and win.

He will try to deliver a no-deal Brexit by circumventing Parliament - it is the only way it CAN be delivered in the current situation, you can be sure that that  is the manoeuvring going on in the background with all Brexit hardliners.

Gove is the most capable and slippiest of all imo.

Edit - just realised no matter what manoeuvres they try to pull they'll still have to pass legislation in some form so they can't totally circumvent HP.

Just read on Twitter there that Rabb (& ERG in general) are advocating Parliament be proroged in late October to ensure UK leaves without Parliament being able to halt it.

Surely that would be a constitutional crisis and would surely end in a legal challenge. Rabb is a tosser.

[johnnycool]

I think Boris will reverse the long trend of favourites not winning and win.

He will try to deliver a no-deal Brexit by circumventing Parliament - it is the only way it CAN be delivered in the current situation, you can be sure that that  is the manoeuvring going on in the background with all Brexit hardliners.

Gove is the most capable and slippiest of all imo.

Edit - just realised no matter what manoeuvres they try to pull they'll still have to pass legislation in some form so they can't totally circumvent HP.

Just read on Twitter there that Rabb (& ERG in general) are advocating Parliament be proroged in late October to ensure UK leaves without Parliament being able to halt it.

Surely that would be a constitutional crisis and would surely end in a legal challenge. Rabb is a t**ser.

He's going balls out for the hardline brexiteers within the party trying to outdo Boris and Ester McVey.

Has Baker dropped out of the race for Raab?

[Applesisapples]

I wouldn't be so sure remain would win a referendum.A lot of Brits and that includes Asian and Irish immigrants are pro Brexit and white anglos are so self obsessed that they believe that the sun still doesn't set on the Empire and that free trade agreements will all be one way traffic.

[seafoid]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-21/tory-grandee-patten-calls-johnson-mendacious-and-incompetent

hundreds of thousands of pounds of dark money has poured into social media ads warning MPs not to "steal Brexit" and promoting the UK leaving the EU on WTO rules.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-how-dark-money-is-winning-brexit-influencing