Tyrone v Dublin for a place in the aisf. Omagh

Started by rrhf, July 15, 2018, 09:18:42 AM

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inthrough

Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Did you actually think before you posted that rot?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

RedHand88

Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone beat Dublin and lose to Donegal (4 points)
Donegal beat Rossies (4 points)
Dublin beat Rossies (4 points)

So it'll come down to score difference. Technically, a win for Tyrone guarantees nothing.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

inthrough

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

Rois

Yes I was wondering how this works. If three teams all have 4 points and they have all won a head to head against each other, is it simply scoring diffeence overall?

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

OK, now do you see how nonsensical your first post was, given the sequential nature of this series of games?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

RedHand88

Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

This is too much for a Sunday morning. My head hurts.

inthrough

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 15, 2018, 10:13:43 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

OK, now do you see how nonsensical your first post was, given the sequential nature of this series of games?
My response was to the title of the thread not to the post.

inthrough

Quote from: Rois on July 15, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Yes I was wondering how this works. If three teams all have 4 points and they have all won a head to head against each other, is it simply scoring diffeence overall?

Yes

BennyHarp

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

This is too much for a Sunday morning. My head hurts.

Are Donegal likely to beat Roscommon by more than 18 points at the Hyde?
That was never a square ball!!

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 15, 2018, 10:13:43 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: inthrough on July 15, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
Not if Donegal beat Roscommon & Tyrone it isn't

Whoever wins next week is guaranteed at least second place and passage through to the semi final.

If Tyrone win next week & Donegal win in Roscommon & Ballybofey they will each have 4 points & Dublin beat Roscommon then Dublin Tyrone & Donegal will all be on 4 points.

How is anyone guaranteed a place in the semi final if all three are on 4 points?

OK, now do you see how nonsensical your first post was, given the sequential nature of this series of games?
My response was to the title of the thread not to the post.

Which is not how this actually works, though does explain it! :D
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

omagh_gael

Dublin's press yesterday certainly appeared to spook Patton yesterday. I was thinking what could you do to counteract it. This might be balls but trying to think outside the box.

If Tyrone found themselves under the cosh could they not pull at least 9 players inside our own 30m line. Dub markers would have to tag a man. If they don't we've a short kick out available. We leave three (ball winners) men 10 yards inside the Dublin half and two men on Dub 30m line. Keeper absolutely wellies it to three catchers and we compete.

Ideally, a clean catch is won or ball broken towards the Dublin goal and our FF line.  As soon as ball is kicked the defending 9 players move out the field into the 'blanket' position to defend if Dublin win the lockout.

Thoughts?

BennyHarp

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 15, 2018, 01:00:09 PM
Dublin's press yesterday certainly appeared to spook Patton yesterday. I was thinking what could you do to counteract it. This might be balls but trying to think outside the box.

If Tyrone found themselves under the cosh could they not pull at least 9 players inside our own 30m line. Dub markers would have to tag a man. If they don't we've a short kick out available. We leave three (ball winners) men 10 yards inside the Dublin half and two men on Dub 30m line. Keeper absolutely wellies it to three catchers and we compete.

Ideally, a clean catch is won or ball broken towards the Dublin goal and our FF line.  As soon as ball is kicked the defending 9 players move out the field into the 'blanket' position to defend if Dublin win the lockout.

Thoughts?

Did Donegal not do something similar to this a few years ago. Pinged the kick out over midfield where it was flicked on to one of the McHughs?
That was never a square ball!!