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Tyrone and Donegal an interesting one, Donegal will surely not allow the Canavans and McCurry freedom of the park like Cavan did. And Donegal have better forwards than Cavan. Full credit to Cavan for dragging themselves back into that.

Can't see Tyrone getting near Donegal especially given extra time today.

Donegal will be shown to be not that great. They got 3 goals from a smart tactical move on kick outs. I don't think that will happen. I think Armagh would beat them should they meet in the final

Haven't seen anyone suggest we're "great". Why would they?

Ulster title is wide open.

Personally, I've no idea what to expect next week beyond the fact that I expect us to give Tyrone a good rattle, unlike the facile stroll we allowed them last year.

I know Liverpool need to keep winning, just in case, but it's hard to feel optimistic after the past few weeks. Maybe if they beat Everton midweek, but it's hard to have any confidence that they will, despite that win today. By all accounts Salah and Nunez still looked off it when they came on.

Lads away and have a look at yourselves. Arguing every single call that was against your team. There was very little in the reffing of that game that was controversial.
The last couple of pages would make your head hurt.

And people wonder why no one wants to referee any more.

Unfortunately didn't get to see the match in real time, but watched it back last night. Honestly could not believe what I was watching with Derry's goalkeeper shenanigans! Not blaming Lynch. He's been caught before, not least by Comer two years ago, and obviously this is a risk Harte felt was worth continuing to bear, but when you've been caught twice and you concede a third?? Absolute madness! Any hype in or about Donegal will have to be tempered by the fact that most other teams are not going to gift us those goal opportunities.

Great performance across the field though. You could see the belief balloon in that period before the first goal where we started to repeatedly turn Derry over AND make hay up front with McHugh and Mogan punching through the lines. Ryan's best performance this decade. Eoin Ban still to come back too to add more running and line breaking power. Caolan McGonigle is starting to bring back memories of Rambo Gavigan. He's like a bull when he gets moving. McCole did a good job on McGuigan again, although the system certainly helped. Brilliant work in midfield, and some finish from Jamie Brennan, whose biggest contribution to the county in the last few years had been coaching Abbey VS to the McLarnon and AI titles! And fair fucks to Daire O'Baoil - scored an even better goal against Cork in the league from further out.

Ulster wide open now, especially with only a week to prepare for Cavan or Tyrone. There'll be no four goals next week!

[winning the league nigh on impossible]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

If there was any justice City would be stripped of all their titles. Will admit that Liverpool side did unbelievably well to get near that financially and I've a feeling physically doped team. Bit like that Mayo team running into the Dubs but at least Liverpool got their title!

Does that  mean Man Utd and Liverpool would   need to bring back their players  from those years and  be presented with the PL trophy?

Sure what consolation would that be anyway? Let's  go to Old Trafford to see  the 2012 team  lift the PL trophy? Would Stevie G's slip  and Aguerooooo  be erased from history?

Nah, if you're going to  punish them , a Rangers-style demotion is the way to go  , with a few years in the Vauxhall conference (or lower). That's  the place for them.

I seriously doubt any Liverpool or United fans are looking for those types of meaningless, asterisked titles.  Severe demotion penalty, as you say, is the way to go.

The Layla outro in Goodfellas is iconic.

Brilliant piece, both the music and the scene in the film.

Although large part of the credit for ithe music goes to others. Think it was the drummer who wrote it and played piano on it. And on both parts of the song, Duane Allman's guitar was at least as prominent as Clapton's.

Twice under Klopp.

Pipped by a point both times on the final day.

Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

One of Liverpool's greatest managers, end of story.

Without him, City would be heading for seven in a row. No one else has even run Pep close, never mind taken him to the final day. Plus, three CL final appearances, one won.

Underwhelming me arse.

Recently sat on a jury in Queens. I don't think I'd want to run the risk of sitting on this particular one however.

Bookies only giving this one a 3pt handicap so they're wary of McGuinness and whatever shenanigans he comes up with.

I would love for us to beat Donegal this weekend but this is their AIF and do we really have the hunger to go after another Ulster title given the hardship it will entail? I don't doubt the team will be telling themselves they want to win every game but how realistic is that nowadays?

If we win that's great, but if we got beat without any big injuries I wouldn't be that disappointed.

I understand the caution of you Derry lads and the bookies also, but to this point, this new Donegal team  are completely untested.

Leaving aside the injuries/fitness of a few of our key players (I haven't seen any update on McBrearty, McHugh, Ban or McCole), we're relying on a lot of lads who are either new to this high level of football or who haven't exactly passed the test with flying colours in the past. The likes of Langan and Thompson can swing point after point over the bar from the 45, but they can also be squeezed out of games completely. We didn't respond to the high pressure too well in games like Mayo 2019, Cavan 2020 or Derry/Armagh 2022 (I'll leave out Tyrone 2021 due to the Murphy penalty miss and red card!).

I think we'll give a good account of ourselves for 55-60 minutes, but Derry just look stronger, more experienced and battle-hardened across all the lines and will win by six or seven points in the end.

Time for healing ahead of the group stages for us.

You know fine rightly they are/they have been issues J70 and in no way am I tarring the 'whole group' when I say that 

Every area of life ends up getting gamed/corrupted by opportunists (e.g. health systems, religion, relationships, benefits, tax , sick leave) so there's nothing particular surprising that it happens in this space as well. The gaslighting of common sense is a common theme.

I guess I don't pay as much attention to this issue as you do.

Any examples?

What about biological females in male prisons?
Biological females in male sports?
Biological females in male-only spaces?

Are those an issue?

If not, then one presumes that the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing-intent-on-creeping-or-rape is the real objection?

In which case, this issue has been around in terms of high prominence for coming up on a decade now. What are the stats?

Are men dressed as women a significant proportion of the rapist population out there?

I've been at my current employer for six years. They've allowed gender ID-based bathroom use that entire time. Despite tens of thousands of people around daily, I've never heard of a single report.

Bayer Leverkusen have been crowned Bundesliga Champions for the first time in their history.

So only eleven in a row for Bayern then.

It's f**king depressing. Year after year Petrostate FC sweeping up all around them.

So much for pinning our hopes on Arsenal!