Military Displays at Croke Park

Started by gallsman, July 28, 2018, 10:20:21 PM

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BennyCake

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 29, 2018, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 29, 2018, 12:24:57 AM
Are we being softened up for Pesco, and is this just a preliminary step, and no better avenue of approach than via the GAA?
That'd be my thinking too. And with Varadkar only too happy to please his EU masters it sadly looks like our army will become pawns in their game.

Varadkar sucking up to the EU is akin to the DUP sucking up to the British government.

Spineless w**ks, all of them.

shark

Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 29, 2018, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 29, 2018, 12:24:57 AM
Are we being softened up for Pesco, and is this just a preliminary step, and no better avenue of approach than via the GAA?
That'd be my thinking too. And with Varadkar only too happy to please his EU masters it sadly looks like our army will become pawns in their game.

Varadkar sucking up to the EU is akin to the DUP sucking up to the British government.

Spineless w**ks, all of them.

The taxpayer would not reward any government for actually funding our own defence. We can't free ride on the UK and US forever. Pesco is the most tolerable option. Calling it an EU army and throwing out the conscription word, like a few have been doing, does not help sensible debate.

BennyCake

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

BennyCake

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

RedHand88

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising

People love to say it's a different era but they can't explain how.

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 29, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising

People love to say it's a different era but they can't explain how.

Because they were literally different eras, I don't know what needs explaining
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

BennyCake

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 29, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising

People love to say it's a different era but they can't explain how.

Because they were literally different eras, I don't know what needs explaining

Different eras yes, but all those events were ultimately aimed at one thing - to drive the British from Ireland. Or is there a difference because N Water/Loughgall took place in the North?

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 29, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising

People love to say it's a different era but they can't explain how.

Because they were literally different eras, I don't know what needs explaining

Different eras yes, but all those events were ultimately aimed at one thing - to drive the British from Ireland. Or is there a difference because N Water/Loughgall took place in the North?

Different people for one, different tactics etc but the most important thing here is the GAA was deeply involved in the rising and events of the time, making it part of their history and something they can rightfully commemorate
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

Syferus

Stop trying to argue logic with Shinners. It's never going to work.

BennyCake

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 29, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 29, 2018, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2018, 12:00:37 AM
Agreed.
Bloody Sunday commemoration was appropriate as it happened in Croke Park.

Yes but the Easter Rising didn't.

I think giving the links between the GAA, the Gaelic League, the rising and everything that was going on in the era I think it was a justified commemoration

If the Rising commemoration in Croke Park was justified, you could make an argument also for including Narrow Water or Loughgall.

Completely different things though, I'm not getting into it now though

Its the same, whether you like to admit it or not.

How is it the same? Completely different eras, the GAA itself basically took part in the rising

People love to say it's a different era but they can't explain how.

Because they were literally different eras, I don't know what needs explaining

Different eras yes, but all those events were ultimately aimed at one thing - to drive the British from Ireland. Or is there a difference because N Water/Loughgall took place in the North?

Different people for one, different tactics etc but the most important thing here is the GAA was deeply involved in the rising and events of the time, making it part of their history and something they can rightfully commemorate

Maybe so, but mixing sport with a violent uprising shouldn't be done. Links may have been there in the past, but no more. And in the current climate, that shouldn't be part of GAA activities. I'd be fairly sure a lot of those who carried out attacks against the security forces in the North were GAA members, fans or perhaps players.

BennyCake

Quote from: Syferus on July 29, 2018, 10:53:01 PM
Stop trying to argue logic with Shinners. It's never going to work.

I'm no Shinner.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Syferus on July 29, 2018, 10:53:01 PM
Stop trying to argue logic with Shinners. It's never going to work.

Because your Blueshirtery is simply illogical?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

rrhf

In what era did the Gaa decide it was no longer a vehicle for Irish nationalism and a United Ireland syf?