Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019

[Hound]

Was the blood sub rule changed to allow HIA also?

Just noticed that Dublin used 7 subs, as Comerford was a temporary blood sub. Yet, while Cluxton was definitely injured and clearly had to go off in case of concussion, he never actually bled (from what I saw anyway, and I was down that end, although maybe the tv coverage showed something?).

[Rossfan]

When the temporary blood sub rule first came in hadn't the sub to wear a red armband?
How about reintroducing that plus a time limit of 15 minutes?
Then a permanent substitution must be made.

[seafoid]

A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview

Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game's elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There's no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that's balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county's five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn't featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September's starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp's comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O'Shea's return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer's nightmare in context – and let's face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

[Mayo4Sam14]

A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview

Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game's elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There's no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that's balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county's five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn't featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September's starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp's comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O'Shea's return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer's nightmare in context – and let's face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?

[spuds]

A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview

Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game's elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There's no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that's balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county's five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn't featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September's starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp's comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O'Shea's return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer's nightmare in context – and let's face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?

Yeah, Seafoideach, can you reply to Syferus here?

[seafoid]

A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview

Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
•   
•   
•   
•   More Sharing Services
In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game's elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There's no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that's balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county's five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn't featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September's starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp's comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O'Shea's return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer's nightmare in context – and let's face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?

The only team to beat the Dubs since 2013 was Donegal in 2014 I think. They got the tactics spot on.
I don't know if Kerry, Galway or Mayo can execute such a plan this year. But it would be worth a lash.

[Mayo4Sam14]

A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview

Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
•   
•   
•   
•   More Sharing Services
In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game's elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There's no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that's balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county's five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn't featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September's starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp's comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O'Shea's return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer's nightmare in context – and let's face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?

The only team to beat the Dubs since 2013 was Donegal in 2014 I think. They got the tactics spot on.
I don't know if Kerry, Galway or Mayo can execute such a plan this year. But it would be worth a lash.

I'm not sure how Donegal are looking this year so I won't comment. But I feel like this year is too soon for Kerry. I think Mayo missed their last shot at it this year. Galway probably aren't up to it. Tyrone and Monaghan aren't shaping up to well either. So can't see much other than another AI for the Subs

[Rossfan]

Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.

[Mayo4Sam14]

Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.

Until they freeze up in Croker

[LooseCannon]

Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.

I see what you did there.

[highorlow]

Just noticed that Dublin used 7 subs, as Comerford was a temporary blood sub. Yet, while Cluxton was definitely injured and clearly had to go off in case of concussion, he never actually bled (from what I saw anyway, and I was down that end, although maybe the tv coverage showed something?).

The blood sub rule was used for Cluxton, according to the live commentary in anyways. Probably internal bleeding.

[spuds]

What's the rule on likes of Jason Sherlock running on to pitch non stop during games? Was not carrying water bottle.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

Should be a good junior final between Kildare and Meath in Croke park Sunday week. Pity about the senior game after it.

[Shamrock Shore]

Meath and Lonford had a great aul game last night. Meath came out on top but Longford's awful start killed them. Final score was Meath 2-23 Longford 2-18.

Good luck to Meath in the final.

[Jinxy]

Sounded like a cracker alright.
Junior intercounty is very enjoyable to watch as you get a lot of talented, natural footballers who might not be 'athletic' enough for senior level.
That drop off in athleticism means there is more space to actually play football in.