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Would you pay in to watch ladies football?

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Zulu

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2016, 05:27:23 PM »
Well having watched about 3 hours of ladies football the bloody TG4 stream crashed with about 10 minutes left in the senior final and I couldn't even access the website!!! Well pissed off now!

Of the portion of the game I did see Dublin were much the better team and will rue their missed chances and a clear point not given.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2016, 05:28:16 PM »
Eh, is the clock not supposed to stop during breaks in play?
There should have been at least 20 seconds left after the penalty because the clock ran on for about 10 seconds after the last Dublin free alone.
Would hate to see the clock come into the mens' game to be honest.
More trouble than it's worth.

Same happened in the Semi Mayo/Dublin. Dublin got a free with one minute to go and ran it down to the last seconds before kicking point. Rugby has the best way with clock stopping and last play is until the ball goes dead!

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2016, 05:30:30 PM »
Just as the leaves fall from the trees in Autumn, Cork are AI champions. Incredible to think that entering 2005 they hadn't even contested an AI final and they've now won their 11th in 12 seasons.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2016, 05:31:09 PM »
Dublin to win the replay

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2016, 05:33:03 PM »
Cork have to offer them a replay in fairness.
It's the womanly thing to do.
#womanliness
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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2016, 05:47:55 PM »
Cork have to offer them a replay in fairness.
It's the womanly thing to do.
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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2016, 05:49:19 PM »
Disagree with the use of the clock. It's the best and most transparent way of timekeeping IF it's used properly. Rugby is the best example of this.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2016, 05:59:26 PM »


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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2016, 06:00:29 PM »
In rugby you can't really let your full back and wingers play pass the parcel for the last 2 minutes of a game.
AT some point, people will need to grasp the fact that rugby is a completely different game and you can't just copy and paste their rules into the GAA.
Soccer is much closer to gaelic football in terms of game dynamics and they don't have a clock.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2016, 06:13:03 PM »
Women's GAA is crap.

The pace of the games is incredibly slow, the fitness isn't very good, the skills are awful - the players find it difficult to solo the ball, they can't shoot, they keep dropping the ball. Players more often than not panic when in possession. They don't appear to have much tactical nous or spatial awareness you regularly see passes aimed at where the target recipient is rather than the position they should be expected to run into. Women's GAA players do not train just as hard as men, and it shows, so let's stop hearing that they do.

The coverage of the games is also incredibly patronising - it's similar to what you get for the Paralympics - pretty much no criticism is ever allowed of either camogie or women's Gaelic football and "the standard" is always praised, even if it's really, really bad, as it was today, and constant references are made to how much the games are "growing".

The camogie and women's football associations themselves are painted as forward thinking even though ridiculous situations often crop up on their watch, like in the camogie last year when they changed the rules to have a play-off and then made Dublin play the next day (possibly two days, can't remember for sure) after winning the play-off.

The countdown clock is a really poor system, is far too open to time wasting and rewards cynical fouls towards the end of the game.

That point that was given as a wide today was farcical. Why was HawkEye not used?

Until the coverage stops being patronising and brushing the poor standard under the carpet women's GAA cannot expect to be taken in any way seriously as proper sport.

Women's tennis, gymnastics, athletics and probably a few other individual sports can be taken seriously. Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

Obviously there's always going to be a massive gap between it and men's hurling and football but what's on show year after year is undoubtedly a poor product compared to what it could be.



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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2016, 06:21:06 PM »
In rugby you can't really let your full back and wingers play pass the parcel for the last 2 minutes of a game.
AT some point, people will need to grasp the fact that rugby is a completely different game and you can't just copy and paste their rules into the GAA.
Soccer is much closer to gaelic football in terms of game dynamics and they don't have a clock.

And how would bringing in a clock lead to this being introduced as a tactic?

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2016, 06:28:51 PM »
Women's GAA is crap.

The pace of the games is incredibly slow, the fitness isn't very good, the skills are awful - the players find it difficult to solo the ball, they can't shoot, they keep dropping the ball. Players more often than not panic when in possession. They don't appear to have much tactical nous or spatial awareness you regularly see passes aimed at where the target recipient is rather than the position they should be expected to run into. Women's GAA players do not train just as hard as men, and it shows, so let's stop hearing that they do.

The coverage of the games is also incredibly patronising - it's similar to what you get for the Paralympics - pretty much no criticism is ever allowed of either camogie or women's Gaelic football and "the standard" is always praised, even if it's really, really bad, as it was today, and constant references are made to how much the games are "growing".

The camogie and women's football associations themselves are painted as forward thinking even though ridiculous situations often crop up on their watch, like in the camogie last year when they changed the rules to have a play-off and then made Dublin play the next day (possibly two days, can't remember for sure) after winning the play-off.

The countdown clock is a really poor system, is far too open to time wasting and rewards cynical fouls towards the end of the game.

That point that was given as a wide today was farcical. Why was HawkEye not used?

Until the coverage stops being patronising and brushing the poor standard under the carpet women's GAA cannot expect to be taken in any way seriously as proper sport.

Women's tennis, gymnastics, athletics and probably a few other individual sports can be taken seriously. Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

Obviously there's always going to be a massive gap between it and men's hurling and football but what's on show year after year is undoubtedly a poor product compared to what it could be.

Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2016, 06:35:04 PM »
Women's GAA is crap.

The pace of the games is incredibly slow, the fitness isn't very good, the skills are awful - the players find it difficult to solo the ball, they can't shoot, they keep dropping the ball. Players more often than not panic when in possession. They don't appear to have much tactical nous or spatial awareness you regularly see passes aimed at where the target recipient is rather than the position they should be expected to run into. Women's GAA players do not train just as hard as men, and it shows, so let's stop hearing that they do.

The coverage of the games is also incredibly patronising - it's similar to what you get for the Paralympics - pretty much no criticism is ever allowed of either camogie or women's Gaelic football and "the standard" is always praised, even if it's really, really bad, as it was today, and constant references are made to how much the games are "growing".

The camogie and women's football associations themselves are painted as forward thinking even though ridiculous situations often crop up on their watch, like in the camogie last year when they changed the rules to have a play-off and then made Dublin play the next day (possibly two days, can't remember for sure) after winning the play-off.

The countdown clock is a really poor system, is far too open to time wasting and rewards cynical fouls towards the end of the game.

That point that was given as a wide today was farcical. Why was HawkEye not used?

Until the coverage stops being patronising and brushing the poor standard under the carpet women's GAA cannot expect to be taken in any way seriously as proper sport.

Women's tennis, gymnastics, athletics and probably a few other individual sports can be taken seriously. Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

Obviously there's always going to be a massive gap between it and men's hurling and football but what's on show year after year is undoubtedly a poor product compared to what it could be.

Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.

First time for everything but I agree entirely Zulu.

This was the best attended AI final in history at 34,000 in pissing rain. Must be doing something right.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2016, 06:35:58 PM »
Women's GAA is crap.

The pace of the games is incredibly slow, the fitness isn't very good, the skills are awful - the players find it difficult to solo the ball, they can't shoot, they keep dropping the ball. Players more often than not panic when in possession. They don't appear to thave much tactical nous or spatial awareness you regularly see passes aimed at where the target recipient is rather than the position they should be expected to run into. Women's GAA players do not train just as hard as men, and it shows, so let's stop hearing that they do.

The coverage of the games is also incredibly patronising - it's similar to what you get for the Paralympics - pretty much no criticism is ever allowed of either camogie or women's Gaelic football and "the standard" is always praised, even if it's really, really bad, as it was today, and constant references are made to how much the games are "growing".

The camogie and women's football associations themselves are painted as forward thinking even though ridiculous situations often crop up on their watch, like in the camogie last year when they changed the rules to have a play-off and then made Dublin play the next day (possibly two days, can't remember for sure) after winning the play-off.

The countdown clock is a really poor system, is far too open to time wasting and rewards cynical fouls towards the end of the game.

That point that was given as a wide today was farcical. Why was HawkEye not used?

Until the coverage stops being patronising and brushing the poor standard under the carpet women's GAA cannot expect to be taken in any way seriously as proper sport.

Women's tennis, gymnastics, athletics and probably a few other individual sports can be taken seriously. Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

Obviously there's always going to be a massive gap between it and men's hurling and football but what's on show year after year is undoubtedly a poor product compared to what it could be.

Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.

Agreed Zulu, total bollix.

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Re: Ladies football
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2016, 06:44:46 PM »
Most absurd post I've seen in a long time or someone just trying to be deliberately controversial knowing the reaction.