Super 8s

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Redhand Santa

Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2017, 10:21:08 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 10:00:21 AM
For the Mayo Season ticket holder it would have meant

Sligo(home)
Galway (away)
Derry (Home)
Clare (away)
Cork (Limerick)
Tyrone (away)
Dublin (away as usual)
Galway (home)
Kerry (Croke Park)
Dublin (away)

Just too many games and a huge financial and time cost!

Gaelic games has always been about decent rest time between games and the build up to the next game.

That is the reason I won't be renewing my season ticket next year!

How many chances can you be giving Kerry and Dublin to win an All Ireland?

How many extra games can you be putting on AMATEUR players and in consecutive weeks.

We have knock out in the Provincial series and we have knock out in the All Ireland series, why introduce this?

It's as well you don't follow a soccer or rugby team. The one thing the gaa championship lacks is important games between the big teams at the height of summer. This will help improve that. Hopefully they use sensible pricing and have a ticket for the counties three games. Currently quarter finals are 30 or 35 Euro from memory, if you got three games for 45/50 surely everyone would be a winner.

Apart from people who prefer their amateur sports competitions not be dominated by the same four or five semi-pro sides..

Duffy is to the national GAA what Prenty is to Connacht. Money is king, the dollar means more than fairness. What a terrible moment in the history of the sport.

Up to the super 8s stage the championship will be run identical to now. Every county will have the exact same chance of reaching the super 8s as they do the quarter finals now. Talk of the same sides dominating is the usual type of hyper bole created by gaa fans when there is change.

Rossfan

Reducing the NFL would mean  less games for the 24 "B" teams though.
Syfīn, Paraic Duffy didn't bring in the Super 8. Congress did.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Syferus

Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Reducing the NFL would mean  less games for the 24 "B" teams though.
Syfīn, Paraic Duffy didn't bring in the Super 8. Congress did.

Did you type that with a straight face? I suppose they brought in the destruction of the U21 grade too, all without any serious lobbying from their boss in HQ?

Christ on a stripper pole you can obsess over semantics for no reason at all sometimes.

Redhand Santa

Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Reducing the NFL would mean  less games for the 24 "B" teams though.
Syfīn, Paraic Duffy didn't bring in the Super 8. Congress did.

The league is a warm up to the championship. There is far too many warm up games played in county football that no one loses any sleep over if they win or lose. Few less league games wouldn't do anyone any harm.

And there won't be 24 b teams. Every team will have same chance of reaching super 8 stage as they do quarter finals now. That isn't the same 8 teams every year. Undoubtedly the better teams will get there more than the weaker teams, that's the nature of sport. If the weaker teams want to play in the main championship the only way they'll be guaranteed competitive games every year  is through a handicap system.

Itchy

Looking at the last 8 I cant help but think how great the super 8 will be for the weaker counties. They can sit at home and admire the great games on TV and it will surely inspire them to greater things. Roll on 2018.

Syferus

Quote from: Itchy on July 23, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Looking at the last 8 I cant help but think how great the super 8 will be for the weaker counties. They can sit at home and admire the great games on TV and it will surely inspire them to greater things. Roll on 2018.

It's not the first time a Cavan man has stood still in awe of Roscommon anyways.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Reducing the NFL would mean  less games for the 24 "B" teams though.
Syfīn, Paraic Duffy didn't bring in the Super 8. Congress did.
:D

macdanger2

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

First year will be good, 2nd & 3rd probably too but after a few years, it'll become stale and crowds will drop off

manfromdelmonte

within 10 years you will have 8 groups of 4

From the Bunker

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

Dublin play a Championship game in Castlebar - Are you on drugs! Do you still believe in Santa?

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Paraic Duffy didn't bring in the Super 8. Congress did.


Syferus

Imagine the totally uninspiring match-ups we'd have got this year - Galway, Roscommon and Mayo would all be playing teams they've already played this summer. The system is insane.

Hound

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

Dublin play a Championship game in Castlebar - Are you on drugs! Do you still believe in Santa?
If Leinster champions next year, Dublin will get 2 games in Croker in the Super 8. But they won't get all 3. All games between provincial champions will be at Croker. Of the 2 games against the qualifiers one will be in Croke Park, the other will be away.

QuoteImagine the totally uninspiring match-ups we'd have got this year - Galway, Roscommon and Mayo would all be playing teams they've already played this summer. The system is insane.
A and B will be gone next year. So if the Super 8 was in place this year, Galway and Mayo would both have a 50% chance of being in the same group as Roscommon. Not sure if its in, but would probably make sense to keep provincial runners up in opposite group to provincial winners.

Redhand Santa

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

Dublin play a Championship game in Castlebar - Are you on drugs! Do you still believe in Santa?

If that's the way the draw works out then yes they would. I'd be very confident it would happen. Now if they were to play a team with a smaller ground than Castlebar it could get moved. For example if they played Tyrone the game could well be moved from Omagh which holds 18000 to the new casement which will hold 34000. No idea why you think it would get moved to croke park or think the other counties would let it happen.

Redhand Santa

Quote from: Hound on July 24, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

Dublin play a Championship game in Castlebar - Are you on drugs! Do you still believe in Santa?
If Leinster champions next year, Dublin will get 2 games in Croker in the Super 8. But they won't get all 3. All games between provincial champions will be at Croker. Of the 2 games against the qualifiers one will be in Croke Park, the other will be away.

QuoteImagine the totally uninspiring match-ups we'd have got this year - Galway, Roscommon and Mayo would all be playing teams they've already played this summer. The system is insane.
A and B will be gone next year. So if the Super 8 was in place this year, Galway and Mayo would both have a 50% chance of being in the same group as Roscommon. Not sure if its in, but would probably make sense to keep provincial runners up in opposite group to provincial winners.

I'm pretty sure they will be keeping the provincial champions apart next year. So one of the groups based on this year would have been tyrone, Dublin, mayo and Galway. Some group that would have been. If the favourites win next Saturday the other group would have been Kerry Roscommon Kildare and Monaghan. Plenty of interesting games in there.