Aussie Flu

[Milltown Row2]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

[Angelo]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

Well where is the outrage?

Where are the high death tolls mentioned?

Where are the calls for lockdowns and action?

It's a few lads discussing the merits of a vaccine as multiple deaths.

No daily bulletin on deaths, no blaming of people for trasmitting it and not staying inside their house, no suggestion of closing schools/businesses/stopping sports teams from training etc.

As record deaths tolls took place.

[Milltown Row2]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

Well where is the outrage?

Where are the high death tolls mentioned?

Where are the calls for lockdowns and action?

It's a few lads discussing the merits of a vaccine as multiple deaths.

No daily bulletin on deaths, no blaming of people for trasmitting it and not staying inside their house, no suggestion of closing schools/businesses/stopping sports teams from training etc.

As record deaths tolls took place.

Oh so you've read the thread then? So it's not imaginary?

People did discuss it?  Was there news about it?

[OgraAnDun]

Were hospitals and ICU units all over the world overrun by Aussie Flu? Maybe that's why there was no lockdown then...

[Angelo]

Were hospitals and ICU units all over the world overrun by Aussie Flu? Maybe that's why there was no lockdown then...

The Free State

https://www.inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13549

019 has seen the highest number of patients on trolleys in any year since records began – despite it still being November.

As of today, 108,364 people have gone without beds in 2019 so far – breaking 2018's record high of 108,227, with a full month left to go in the year.

The figures count patients who are admitted to hospitals but do not have a bed. They are typically on trolleys in corridors or on chairs. The INMO counts the numbers in 32 hospitals each morning at 8am.

The INMO is calling for extra staffing and an increase in hospital, homecare, and community capacity to deal with the problem.

The union has invoked health and safety laws for staff, writing to the Health and Safety Authority and HIQA, seeking their intervention.

In 2019 so far, the worst-affected hospitals are:
University Hospital Limerick: 12,810
Cork University Hospital: 10,136
University Hospital Galway: 7,409
South Tipperary General Hospital: 6,383
University Hospital Waterford: 5,875
Mater Misericordiae University Hospital, Dublin: 5,572
INMO General Secretary, Phil Ní Sheaghdha, said:

"Winter has only just begun and the record is already broken. These statistics are the hallmark of a wildly bureaucratic health service, which is failing staff and patients alike.

"We take no pleasure in having to record these figures for a decade and a half. We know the problem, but we also know the solutions: extra beds in hospitals, safe staffing levels, and more step-down and community care outside of the hospital.

"Five years ago, hospitals like Beaumont consistently faced the most extreme overcrowding problems in the country. They reduced that problem by adding beds and growing community care. Other services can do the same and must be allowed to do so.

"No other developed country faces anything close to this trolley problem. It can be solved, but a strong political agenda to drive change is needed.

"The INMO has written to the health and safety authorities this week to try force a change from the employers. Hospitals should be a place of safety and care – not danger."



This is a health service crisis.

[Angelo]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

Well where is the outrage?

Where are the high death tolls mentioned?

Where are the calls for lockdowns and action?

It's a few lads discussing the merits of a vaccine as multiple deaths.

No daily bulletin on deaths, no blaming of people for trasmitting it and not staying inside their house, no suggestion of closing schools/businesses/stopping sports teams from training etc.

As record deaths tolls took place.

Oh so you've read the thread then? So it's not imaginary?

People did discuss it?  Was there news about it?

Tell me where the outrage was and the calls for lockdowns were when we had RECORD death tolls.

[Milltown Row2]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

Well where is the outrage?

Where are the high death tolls mentioned?

Where are the calls for lockdowns and action?

It's a few lads discussing the merits of a vaccine as multiple deaths.

No daily bulletin on deaths, no blaming of people for trasmitting it and not staying inside their house, no suggestion of closing schools/businesses/stopping sports teams from training etc.

As record deaths tolls took place.

Oh so you've read the thread then? So it's not imaginary?

People did discuss it?  Was there news about it?

Tell me where the outrage was and the calls for lockdowns were when we had RECORD death tolls.

There was outrage and everyone was talking about it.. they didn't lockdown and maybe they should have. The government got it wrong. The flu jab for this strain that year wasn't working.

There was a vaccine but it didn't work

[Angelo]

Don't see any calls for lockdowns or any criticism of lives lost.

No outrage here - move along.

The hypocrisy is utterly staggering.

Sure you never seen this imaginary thread lol.

Well where is the outrage?

Where are the high death tolls mentioned?

Where are the calls for lockdowns and action?

It's a few lads discussing the merits of a vaccine as multiple deaths.

No daily bulletin on deaths, no blaming of people for trasmitting it and not staying inside their house, no suggestion of closing schools/businesses/stopping sports teams from training etc.

As record deaths tolls took place.

Oh so you've read the thread then? So it's not imaginary?

People did discuss it?  Was there news about it?

Tell me where the outrage was and the calls for lockdowns were when we had RECORD death tolls.

There was outrage and everyone was talking about it.. they didn't lockdown and maybe they should have. The government got it wrong. The flu jab for this strain that year wasn't working.

There was a vaccine but it didn't work

There was no outrage in that thread.

Did the vaccine work or didn't it? That's debatable. There was a vaccine yet deaths were extremely high.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2017-2018.html

[OgraAnDun]

Were hospitals and ICU units all over the world overrun by Aussie Flu? Maybe that's why there was no lockdown then...

The Free State

https://www.inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13549

019 has seen the highest number of patients on trolleys in any year since records began – despite it still being November.

As of today, 108,364 people have gone without beds in 2019 so far – breaking 2018's record high of 108,227, with a full month left to go in the year.

The figures count patients who are admitted to hospitals but do not have a bed. They are typically on trolleys in corridors or on chairs. The INMO counts the numbers in 32 hospitals each morning at 8am.

The INMO is calling for extra staffing and an increase in hospital, homecare, and community capacity to deal with the problem.

The union has invoked health and safety laws for staff, writing to the Health and Safety Authority and HIQA, seeking their intervention.

In 2019 so far, the worst-affected hospitals are:
University Hospital Limerick: 12,810
Cork University Hospital: 10,136
University Hospital Galway: 7,409
South Tipperary General Hospital: 6,383
University Hospital Waterford: 5,875
Mater Misericordiae University Hospital, Dublin: 5,572
INMO General Secretary, Phil Ní Sheaghdha, said:

"Winter has only just begun and the record is already broken. These statistics are the hallmark of a wildly bureaucratic health service, which is failing staff and patients alike.

"We take no pleasure in having to record these figures for a decade and a half. We know the problem, but we also know the solutions: extra beds in hospitals, safe staffing levels, and more step-down and community care outside of the hospital.

"Five years ago, hospitals like Beaumont consistently faced the most extreme overcrowding problems in the country. They reduced that problem by adding beds and growing community care. Other services can do the same and must be allowed to do so.

"No other developed country faces anything close to this trolley problem. It can be solved, but a strong political agenda to drive change is needed.

"The INMO has written to the health and safety authorities this week to try force a change from the employers. Hospitals should be a place of safety and care – not danger."



This is a health service crisis.

It's not quite the constant wail of ambulances and army trucks taking lorry loads of coffins away like we saw in Italy in spite of the lockdown, is it?

[Angelo]

Were hospitals and ICU units all over the world overrun by Aussie Flu? Maybe that's why there was no lockdown then...

The Free State

https://www.inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13549

019 has seen the highest number of patients on trolleys in any year since records began – despite it still being November.

As of today, 108,364 people have gone without beds in 2019 so far – breaking 2018's record high of 108,227, with a full month left to go in the year.

The figures count patients who are admitted to hospitals but do not have a bed. They are typically on trolleys in corridors or on chairs. The INMO counts the numbers in 32 hospitals each morning at 8am.

The INMO is calling for extra staffing and an increase in hospital, homecare, and community capacity to deal with the problem.

The union has invoked health and safety laws for staff, writing to the Health and Safety Authority and HIQA, seeking their intervention.

In 2019 so far, the worst-affected hospitals are:
University Hospital Limerick: 12,810
Cork University Hospital: 10,136
University Hospital Galway: 7,409
South Tipperary General Hospital: 6,383
University Hospital Waterford: 5,875
Mater Misericordiae University Hospital, Dublin: 5,572
INMO General Secretary, Phil Ní Sheaghdha, said:

"Winter has only just begun and the record is already broken. These statistics are the hallmark of a wildly bureaucratic health service, which is failing staff and patients alike.

"We take no pleasure in having to record these figures for a decade and a half. We know the problem, but we also know the solutions: extra beds in hospitals, safe staffing levels, and more step-down and community care outside of the hospital.

"Five years ago, hospitals like Beaumont consistently faced the most extreme overcrowding problems in the country. They reduced that problem by adding beds and growing community care. Other services can do the same and must be allowed to do so.

"No other developed country faces anything close to this trolley problem. It can be solved, but a strong political agenda to drive change is needed.

"The INMO has written to the health and safety authorities this week to try force a change from the employers. Hospitals should be a place of safety and care – not danger."



This is a health service crisis.

It's not quite the constant wail of ambulances and army trucks taking lorry loads of coffins away like we saw in Italy in spite of the lockdown, is it?

Those images did scare people but do you think the same level of fear now exists in Italy as it did back then? That was a massive anomaly and concentrated in a region in Lombardy.

[OgraAnDun]

Well that's where we would all be if there was no lockdown or other measures to prevent the spread of Covid.

[Angelo]

Well that's where we would all be if there was no lockdown or other measures to prevent the spread of Covid.

Speculative.

[Milltown Row2]

Well that's where we would all be if there was no lockdown or other measures to prevent the spread of Covid.

Speculative.

Your whole view on the covid then is speculative.. You haven't produced anything that's backs your point of view