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Don Draper

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #150 on: April 26, 2017, 10:07:52 AM »
That minor game is really getting my back up. At the match I thought the louth penalty was a foot block and fairly given. Now on closer inspection at 8.05 in that video, clearly just hits the back of the knee. Terrible decision for ref being so close. Hate making excuses but we were robbed. One clear pen for us not given, a pen for them given when it shouldn't have been amongst other poor decisions. It's hardest on the players as they're training hard and for bad decisions by the ref to dictate your success is hard to take.
Thats still a foot block. The Laois defender ran into the player as he was taking a kick. Tough on the defender, but by the letter of the law, a penalty.

The pull down was a penalty also, and most likely a black card into the bargain.

The first penalty shouldn't have been given as there was an immediate advantage.

But the Louth one was definitely a penalty also. You can't just run into a players leg as he is kicking the ball, regardless of where he strikes you when you do.

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« Reply #151 on: April 26, 2017, 02:34:15 PM »
RULE 5 AGGRESSIVE FOULS
5.12 To block or attempt to block with the boot
when an opponent is kicking the ball from the
hand(s).

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Caution the offender; order off for
second cautionable foul.
(ii) Free kick from where the foul occurred
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.



Where abouts does it say that if a player hits the ball off the back of your knee, it's a free or penalty to them?

Don Draper

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #152 on: April 26, 2017, 02:35:41 PM »
RULE 5 AGGRESSIVE FOULS
5.12 To block or attempt to block with the boot
when an opponent is kicking the ball from the
hand(s).

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Caution the offender; order off for
second cautionable foul.
(ii) Free kick from where the foul occurred
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.



Where abouts does it say that if a player hits the ball off the back of your knee, it's a free or penalty to them?
You think a footblock only pertains to the foot area? Try that in a match and see how you go.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #153 on: April 26, 2017, 03:00:35 PM »
I'm reading the definition of the rule book and it clearly states the word "boot". Not knee, thigh or arse. If we're going by the words of the rule book, that wasn't a peno. Otherwise, the rules need to be a LOT less vague. I've seen a lot of penalties given for actual blocks by the BOOT but I haven't seen any like that one. Anyone have ANY other footage of a pen for any team been given where someone strikes the ball off someones back knee, thigh or arse?

If I was to ask the referee why it was given, why is it he could say "it was a foot block", when it struck the back of the knee (the popliteus fossa). That needs to be sorted. GAA rules can be very vague but if we're taking it word for word, that is not a penalty kick.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #154 on: April 26, 2017, 03:01:20 PM »
I'm reading the definition of the rule book and it clearly states the word "boot". Not knee, thigh or arse. If we're going by the words of the rule book, that wasn't a peno. Otherwise, the rules need to be a LOT less vague. I've seen a lot of penalties given for actual blocks by the BOOT but I haven't seen any like that one. Anyone have ANY other footage of a pen for any team been given where someone strikes the ball off someones back knee, thigh or arse?

If I was to ask the referee why it was given, why is it he could say "it was a foot block", when it struck the back of the knee (the popliteus fossa). That needs to be sorted. GAA rules can be very vague but if we're taking it word for word, that is not a penalty kick.
Its a footblock and a penalty.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #155 on: April 26, 2017, 04:03:41 PM »
Pity that ref wasn't reffing some of the Dublin games in recent years. Philly McMahon has footblocked on more than one occasion.

Also, should that rule not also apply to goalkeepers?
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« Reply #156 on: May 03, 2017, 09:25:35 AM »
How they looking for Saturday ?

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #158 on: May 06, 2017, 04:35:04 PM »
Well done to the minors. Great result. Listening to LMFM, where Mattie Kerrigan was full of praise for Portarlington man, Colin Slevin who he said was brilliant. Also great praise for Whelan and Comerford.  I must say I did not see that result coming after the Louth match.

Its nice to have a bit of good news for Laois football at last. I hope the quarter final draw will be kind to them!!

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« Reply #159 on: May 06, 2017, 04:41:11 PM »
Great win for the Minor footballers today, down 0-6 to 0-4 at half time and went 0-9 to 0-4 down after 15 min's of the second half. They really put the shoulder to the wheel then and levelled it with 3 min's to go.

Then Diarmuid Whelan, who had come back on after being injured fired over the winner and although Meath had a chance from a free to level the game, it was kicked wide and Laois had pulled of a brilliant victory..
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« Reply #160 on: May 06, 2017, 04:58:18 PM »
Great News,

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #161 on: May 06, 2017, 06:12:59 PM »
Delighted for the lads. Great effort by all.

I don't mean to be a negative b**tard but something bothered me the last day and it does again today.
That's two matches in a row now where a player substituted was brought back in near the end. I appreciate that there was an injury involved today and that management know their players a hell of a lot better than I do but I don't think its right and fair; especially when they are carrying a panel in excess of 40 for both minor and U17 grades.


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« Reply #162 on: May 06, 2017, 07:39:39 PM »
Excellent result. Very positive. Well done to all!
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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #163 on: May 06, 2017, 07:42:10 PM »
Well done to the minors today. Eleven of the players used today u17.

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« Reply #164 on: May 06, 2017, 08:19:02 PM »
That's a great win !! well done.
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