Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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CiKe

GBP  is stronger against the eur. FT analysis suggest this means soft brexit as May wont have to kowtow to hardliners. Her support for remain was only evera lukewarm, I am a bit worried she is closet hardliner herself.

seafoid

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/21/uk-retail-surge-brexit-comes-to-an-end-ons

The strong recovery on Britain's high streets after last year's Brexit vote appears to be over, with retail sales figures for the first quarter showing the biggest drop in purchases in the last seven years.

The Office for National Statistics said UK retail sales fell 1.4% in the first three months of 2017, the biggest quarterly fall since 2010.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2017, 04:23:44 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/21/uk-retail-surge-brexit-comes-to-an-end-ons

The strong recovery on Britain's high streets after last year's Brexit vote appears to be over, with retail sales figures for the first quarter showing the biggest drop in purchases in the last seven years.

The Office for National Statistics said UK retail sales fell 1.4% in the first three months of 2017, the biggest quarterly fall since 2010.

Phew!! I'm sure you're happy now!!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid


   https://www.ft.com/content/f4c720b0-2b63-11e7-bc4b-5528796fe35c

   European leaders are preparing to recognise the potential for a "united Ireland" within the EU, confirming that Northern Ireland would seamlessly rejoin the bloc after Brexit in the event of a vote for Irish reunification.

In a step that may stoke concerns in Britain that Brexit could hasten the fragmentation of the UK, diplomats are planning to ask leaders of the EU's 27 post-Brexit member countries to endorse the idea in a summit on Saturday.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnneycool

Quote from: AQMP on April 28, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 05:24:18 AM

   https://www.ft.com/content/f4c720b0-2b63-11e7-bc4b-5528796fe35c

   European leaders are preparing to recognise the potential for a "united Ireland" within the EU, confirming that Northern Ireland would seamlessly rejoin the bloc after Brexit in the event of a vote for Irish reunification.

In a step that may stoke concerns in Britain that Brexit could hasten the fragmentation of the UK, diplomats are planning to ask leaders of the EU's 27 post-Brexit member countries to endorse the idea in a summit on Saturday.

This from the Guardian...no paywall

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/27/eu-to-debate-recognising-united-ireland-to-allow-swift-return-for-north

I'd expect Nichola Sturgeon to make use of this GDR clause when the time comes to coax Scots back into the EU.

NAG1

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.

With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(


seafoid

Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
When If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

NAG1

Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

He is standing up for no one if he cant get elected.
He is a liability and the Labour party under him will not get into power.

All well and good to stand from the sidelines and shout the odds, sure any man on here could do that.
Its another thing to get elected and get to implement your ideas.

He should have gone long ago

seafoid

Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 02:38:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

He is standing up for no one if he cant get elected.
He is a liability and the Labour party under him will not get into power.

All well and good to stand from the sidelines and shout the odds, sure any man on here could do that.
Its another thing to get elected and get to implement your ideas.

He should have gone long ago

He is the only one saying how the economy is run. the press arte against him because of this.

the Tories are selling Brexit which means :
-  no funding for the NHS or the elderly,
- breaking of Tory manifesto promises
- continued contributions to the EU budget
- zero control of immigration
- adherence to EU rules
- can't have cake and eat it
- no quick and easy trade deals with the rest of the world

Corbyn says "the rules have created a cosy cartel, which rigs the system in favour of a few powerful and wealthy individuals and corporations. It's a rigged system set up by the wealth extractors for the wealth extractors.
But things can, and they will, change. And Labour in this election will be part of a movement of the British people to make that change.
How dare they crash the economy with their recklessness and greed, and then punish those who had nothing to do with it?
We will overturn this rigged system. The Conservatives will never do that"

Maybe when Brexit crashes people will join the dots.


"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Northern Ireland costs the UK about 200 m per week.
EU membership costs 350m per week
very interesting .....
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

NAG1

Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 02:38:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

He is standing up for no one if he cant get elected.
He is a liability and the Labour party under him will not get into power.

All well and good to stand from the sidelines and shout the odds, sure any man on here could do that.
Its another thing to get elected and get to implement your ideas.

He should have gone long ago

He is the only one saying how the economy is run. the press arte against him because of this.

the Tories are selling Brexit which means :
-  no funding for the NHS or the elderly,
- breaking of Tory manifesto promises
- continued contributions to the EU budget
- zero control of immigration
- adherence to EU rules
- can't have cake and eat it
- no quick and easy trade deals with the rest of the world

Corbyn says "the rules have created a cosy cartel, which rigs the system in favour of a few powerful and wealthy individuals and corporations. It's a rigged system set up by the wealth extractors for the wealth extractors.
But things can, and they will, change. And Labour in this election will be part of a movement of the British people to make that change.
How dare they crash the economy with their recklessness and greed, and then punish those who had nothing to do with it?
We will overturn this rigged system. The Conservatives will never do that"

Maybe when Brexit crashes people will join the dots.

So if Brexit is the big evil that JC is now predicting why did he sit on his hands during the Brexit campaign?
At best he showed complete apathy toward the whole debate and campaign at the time.

Again easy to shout the odds.

johnneycool

Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 02:38:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Sadly i think that dup majority is coming back and the sickening arrogance we regularly see from foster will be on view :(

I don't see may losing this at all. The election will *probably* illustrate ukip are dead and corbyn will not lead a party to victory. The main interesting spot is scotland and seeing where they sit.

If labour take a hammering corbyn will likely be gone.

It would be nice were may to not sweep to victory as she probably thinks she will.
With any f@@kin luck he will be  >:(
Corbyn is the only one standing up for workers.
The Tories will help the rich.
If the Tories get in again it will be another example of workers voting against their own interests.

He is standing up for no one if he cant get elected.
He is a liability and the Labour party under him will not get into power.

All well and good to stand from the sidelines and shout the odds, sure any man on here could do that.
Its another thing to get elected and get to implement your ideas.

He should have gone long ago

He is the only one saying how the economy is run. the press arte against him because of this.

the Tories are selling Brexit which means :
-  no funding for the NHS or the elderly,
- breaking of Tory manifesto promises
- continued contributions to the EU budget
- zero control of immigration
- adherence to EU rules
- can't have cake and eat it
- no quick and easy trade deals with the rest of the world

Corbyn says "the rules have created a cosy cartel, which rigs the system in favour of a few powerful and wealthy individuals and corporations. It's a rigged system set up by the wealth extractors for the wealth extractors.
But things can, and they will, change. And Labour in this election will be part of a movement of the British people to make that change.
How dare they crash the economy with their recklessness and greed, and then punish those who had nothing to do with it?
We will overturn this rigged system. The Conservatives will never do that"

Maybe when Brexit crashes people will join the dots.

So if Brexit is the big evil that JC is now predicting why did he sit on his hands during the Brexit campaign?
At best he showed complete apathy toward the whole debate and campaign at the time.

Again easy to shout the odds.

This is where Corbyn breaks my balls also, he's a principled enough Character but is wishy washy on Brexit and that's set him back IMO. Maybe its because a lot of Labour strongholds in the North all voted to leave he's hedging his bets, but it makes him look indecisive.

ashman

The EU is a dead duck . The chickens are coming home to roost . The hubris after the French result will be the under of the whole edifice .  Any organisation whose institutions still adhere to saving the euro is on the road to ruin.

The Brits are leaving on choice at least .