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Any way to get the Armagh match on TV here in the North?

rte2 through freeview? That's how im watching it. Think sky have it blocked if you access rte through it

You can get it via RTÉ player in the North

Joe Kernan has now managed his club, county, province and Country to win the highest accolade possible, not bad going in fairness.

[It mentioned that there is a groundswell of opinion supporting a re-organisation of the AI championship and that it is a hot topic of discussion among players, supporters and administrators. Well this topic has never come up in any GAA discussions I have had and I spend a considerable amount of time talking GAA to various people.]

Here we go again. I read an article on this yesterday and was awaiting the usual suspects getting all revved up on here.

It mentioned that there is a groundswell of opinion supporting a re-organisation of the AI championship and that it is a hot topic of discussion among players, supporters and administrators.

Well this topic has never come up in any GAA discussions I have had and I spend a considerable amount of time talking GAA to various people. Other than a few bandwaggoners on here parrotting stuff from a few newspaper columnists and interviews with people who want their name in print this is a non-subject. Don't suppose that will stop multiple thread on here though.

Utter nonsense. I've spoken to many people in the past few weeks and none of them mentioned the refugee crisis so I suppose that's a bandwagon media driven topic too? Most people are focused on their own lives and don't generally discuss in great length the bigger issues in life. That's not to say they are not interested in them or don't have views on them but they don't necessarily discuss them every day.However, there is no doubt most GAA folk are not happy with the current competition structures. The level of dissatisfaction may vary and the alternatives would certainly be many but to suggest most are happy with the current situation is laughable. And of course, the usual tactic of accusing those discussing it of being sheep only highlights the poverty of your argument.

You introduced a strawman argument about refugees. Like WTF!!

Then made a couple of statements without a single shred of evidence to back them up. What evidence is there that 'most GAA folk are not happy with the current situation'??

I never mentioned sheep but if the cap fits....

So you think the current structure is okay??

While we all agree that Il Bomber is talking nonsense, it is strange that Gooch has never won player of the year. So for the past 14 years, in a period where Kerry were consistently dining at the top table, the Gooch was never deemed to be the stand out player in any of those years, yet many of us consider him to be the best footballer during that period....now go work that one out.

[Brogan ahead of McGuigan? 08 was the best year Brogan was ever having, the Tyrone match told me everything I needed to know about him on a pitch.]

A composite Dublin 2011-2015/Tyrone 2003-2008 team would probably look something like as follows:

1. Cluxton
2. McMenamin
3. O'Carroll
4. P. McMahon
5. McCarthy
6. Gormley
7. McCaffrey
8. McAuley
9. Cavanagh
10. Dooher
11. A. Brogan
12. Connolly
13. Canavan
14. O'Neill
15. B. Brogan

9 Dublin 6 Tyrone

Dublin have it.

Wud have both J McMahons ahead of O'Carrol

McCaffery ahead of Jordan 

Brogan ahead of McGuigan? 08 was the best year Brogan was ever having, the Tyrone match told me everything I needed to know about him on a pitch.

What do you mean by this? Brogan went off with a hamstring injury after a few minutes. Are you suggesting he feigned the injury?

McGuigan was arguably as talented as Brogan but through no fault of his own only had a couple of really good years.  This year was Alan Brogans 13th year playing County Football and he was close to being Dublins top player in about 10 of them. Therefore I'd have him ahead of Brian.

Hamstring  Right

Your actually delusional if you think Brogan feigned injury.
He marked far harder and better defenders than Gormley over the years and never took a backward step. He's also still winning All Ireland medals while Gormley is nothing more than a distant memory with a touch of a lingering odour off it.

No actually you are delusional, what was the follow up on that injury? did he miss club games?

Listen I actually thought nothing off it at the time, but was talking to Dubs after the match and thats what they reckoned, I had a look at the whole thing again and sure enough there was nothing to it, he never pulled up, limped off, nothing.

Also 08 Gormley still had pace and agility and was considered the best man marker in the country at that time. Its no slight to come off 2nd best, but to cry off like he did? Well thats a different story.

He roasted Gormley somewhat in 2011 so he somewhat redeemed himself IMO but Gormley was fairly well spent (certainly no comparison to his 08 version) and the younger lads (Brogan and Connolly mainly) had already done the damage that day.

But that's the thing, tge resurgence in his career coincides with this current crop of players, he has reinvented himself as well to an extent but he is mostly piggy backing on their talent, fair play.

Alan was far far superior to Brian. Brian had a lot of help from a very good team. Alan didn't get that till 2010. Mc Guigan was  a very good old style centre forward but teams like Armagh had his number.

On a composite team I'd have Joe Mc Mahon for his versatility, Jordan, O Neill, Dooher, Cavanagh and Canavan

Cluxton
Cian O sullivan
Rory O Carroll
Johnny Cooper
Mc Carthy
Joe Mc Mahon
Philip Jordan
Cavanagh
MDMA
Dooher
Connolly
Flynn
Alan Brogan
O Neill
Canavan


No toerags allowed so Mc Mahon and Ricey miss out

I have my standards. There is nobody beating the above team any day of the week.

Cooper, Not a chance, shouldn't even be on the Dublin team as Fitzsimons is better.  This Dublin team are a great bunch of athletes, Tyrone were a great bunch of footballers.   No comparison in my opinion.

A composite Dublin 2011-2015/Tyrone 2003-2008 team would probably look something like as follows:

1. Cluxton
2. McMenamin
3. O'Carroll
4. P. McMahon
5. McCarthy
6. Gormley
7. McCaffrey
8. McAuley
9. Cavanagh
10. Dooher
11. A. Brogan
12. Connolly
13. Canavan
14. O'Neill
15. B. Brogan

9 Dublin 6 Tyrone

Dublin have it.

So no Phillip Jordan,  your having a laugh.

Plus, you made a typo on the no.4, should be a J, not a P. 

A composite Dublin 2011-2015/Tyrone 2003-2008 team would probably look something like as follows:

1. Cluxton
2. McMenamin
3. O'Carroll
4. P. McMahon
5. McCarthy
6. Gormley
7. McCaffrey
8. McAuley
9. Cavanagh
10. Dooher
11. A. Brogan
12. Connolly
13. Canavan
14. O'Neill
15. B. Brogan

9 Dublin 6 Tyrone

Dublin have it.

So no Phillip Jordan,  your having a laugh. 

just wondering what's the view on relative merits of both teams?

Tyrone were easily the better team. Kerry and Armagh in that period were also better than this Dublin team. The standard of footballers at the moment is as low as its been in quite a while. None of Dublin's 3 wins produced a high quality game.  Only a handful of the current Dublin team would have been good enough to get on either of the Tyrone, Armagh or Kerry teams of 2005

[They can be intense and tight but quite often the standard of football is utterly abject]

Tyrone for me. Tyrone had opposition from May - Sept.

Because the standard in Leinster is so abject for years now Dublin can bank on being in semi every year. This year they only got 2 decent games to win Sam - the 2 semi-finals v Mayo. The CP factor will always taint Dublin's achievements.

Tyrone beat a lot of crap teams too and struggled to beat teams this Dublin team would have blown out of the water.

You can't call some of the Ulster championship games a high standard. They can be intense and tight but quite often the standard of football is utterly abject

A bit like Sunday

It happened , 100% it happened. She's the county chairwoman. She deserves more respect than that.
I'd imagine all players were changed by the time she entered....

If that happened,  Mickey was right, She has no business there whether she is county chairperson or not. I'd of done same. 

Heartless b**tards !!!!!!!! 4 season tickets at 57 percent outta the 60 required to attend final, anyone have any contacts in the season ticket office, I've hit a stone wall with them

Dublin have played 15 games this year. To qualify you have to have went to 9 of those.  Dont know how you have been to 57% games unless you have been to 8 of them and that you used your opt out option so are not considering this game so 8/14 = 57%.  Although its not clear how they treat the opt out in the calculation.  Its a bit harsh if they are not considering the opt out.

http://www.gaa.ie/tickets-and-merchandise/tickets/gaa-season-ticket/qualifying-for-all-ireland-tickets/

The DRA wouldn't have been looking at the merits of the decision to ban Connolly and instead would have been concentrating on whether or not the procedures were correctly followed. Having been involved in disciplinary matters for a number of sports of the last number of years I can tell you that it can often be difficult for administrators particularly those not from a legal background to always follow the procedures to the standards required. It's not a situation that's unique to the GAA and it is one that is very difficult to prevent against. Particularly when those on the receiving end of suspensions are willing to engage lawyers to fight their appeals.

Well that's a joke and the GAA need to change this. A players suspension should be determined by the actions of a player on the pitch, not by the actions of the county board administration team. Surely the GAA can change this. This is sport and we can allow it to be run by smart ass lawyers, some who probably have zero involvement in the game.

Although I'm no fan of Connolly and his general attitude last week, I do feel sorry for him. Not knowing last night when going to bed if he was playing today is a compete joke. The GAA are a disgrace.  Why are there 3 lines of appeal. What does the DRA consider that the CHC and CCCC don't. Why not go straight to the DRA. Why do they meet in the middle of the night, could they not have made this decision at a reasonable hour last night. Why are the GPA silent on an issue that is treating their players this way. Complete joke shop!

I hold Mickey Harte responsible for leading football down the path it has gone since he was appointed in 2003.The sooner the Tymoanies stab him in the back the better.

and what path is that - the path to 3 All-irelands and the second most successful team in the country during his reign. Mickey will leave when he wins one more All-Ireland which will be sometime in next 3 years, maybe even next year.

Can the admin or mod of this board ban any Tyrone supporter from posting in the GAA Discussion section until after the All Ireland football final?
The thread for the Mayo Dublin game is full of Tymoany hijacking to make their team look like they are being singled out for the shite they get up to.It is not relevant and the fact pundits on the Sunday Game are bringing up incidents from the match blows apart any idea Tymoan are getting picked on.
No Tyrone poster is making any good contribution on the thread except maybe Bensars. Is it too much to ask for this negative,paranoid crap coming from one county to be halted until the season is over at least?

Mainly they are just highlighting the fact that every team is at it, not just Tyrone.