Haven't seen this mentioned here yet. Hope the hay's in the shed!
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?cone#contents (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?cone#contents)
Always keep an eye on the NOAA Hurricane website 10+ yrs and have never seen a cone over these islands. All up in the air as to the path of this system with models taking it more to the west of Ireland but we should know better tomorrow evening.
One thing for sure is that there will be some good surfing conditions on the south & west coasts.
Quote from: Hereiam on October 12, 2017, 03:29:29 PM
One thing for sure is that there will be some good surfing conditions on the south & west coasts.
There'll likely be good surfing 2 or 3 Km inland, in a flat area!!
Thought this was going to a discussion on Hamlet. Because it wasn't started by Tony I hoppedit wasn't going to a discussion on falling Vocations in tnhe western world.
Ophelia now upgraded to a Category 3 hurricane and looks set to maintain hurricane status as it reaches Ireland (SW corner). Cork, Kerry etc going to experience serious (potentially threatening) winds during Monday morning and rest of the country vulnerable to significant damage. With trees still well foilaged and ground quite wet, the chances of uprooted trees is extremely high.
Fascinating times if you're into your meteorology.
Quote from: omagh_gael on October 14, 2017, 05:48:49 PM
Ophelia now upgraded to a Category 3 hurricane and looks set to maintain hurricane status as it reaches Ireland (SW corner). Cork, Kerry etc going to experience serious (potentially threatening) winds during Monday morning and rest of the country vulnerable to significant damage. With trees still well foilaged and ground quite wet, the chances of uprooted trees is extremely high.
Fascinating times if you're into your meteorology.
This "maintaining" hurricane status is very doubtful.
The water is not warm enough at these latitudes for a hurricane, and while there may be some hurricane force gusts it will not be a hurricane.
One point made was that the wind circulation will be from the East in Kerry and many people have put things sheltered from the West wind, so oil tanks etc might blow over.
There are lots of different criteria for a hurricane. None of that matters. All that matters is that this is certainly going to be a massive wind event for large tracts of the country... possibly the biggest wind event since 1961
I think we're a bit blasé about it to tell you the truth. Bus Eireann have cancelled school bus services in Cork, Kerry, Clare, Galway and Mayo - surely schools will close too? I threw a few sandbags out at my parents house just in case.
Update on Storm Ophelia
14 October 2017
As of midday Saturday, Hurricane Ophelia situated at approx. 2,500km southwest of Ireland and 500km south-southwest of the Azores in the Atlantic Ocean is currently tracking east-northeast. The latest information from our colleagues in the National Hurricane Centre in Miami indicates that Ophelia will become a powerful post-tropical cyclone (from thereon in ex-Hurricane Ophelia) by Monday, and there is now generally high confidence that the centre of this system will track close to and possibly even over some parts of the west coast of Ireland.
Ex-Hurricane Ophelia is expected to be near the southwest tip of Ireland by Monday morning. From there it looks set to track northwards close to the Atlantic Seaboard at a fast pace to be roughly situated 100-200km northwest of County Donegal by midnight on Monday.
This will be a significant weather event for Ireland with potentially high impacts – structural damage and flooding (particularly coastal) - and people are advised to take extreme care Keep up to date with the warnings.
Met Éireann forecasters have been monitoring this situation closely all week. We have been liaising with our international colleagues, especially at the UK Met Office, and as we are now in the 48 hour window, with access to our high resolution models, we have decided to issue specific warnings. The warnings will be updated as required.
For further information on the evolution of this system, please continue reading.
What will happen with Hurricane Ophelia?
Hurricane Ophelia is expected to undergo an extra-tropical transition over the next 24 to 36 hours. That means its structure and appearance is going to undergo drastic changes as it approaches Ireland. It will lose its hurricane status but will become a powerful extra-tropical storm. Current indications are suggesting that Ex-Hurricane Ophelia will likely engage with an upper trough of low pressure in the mid-Atlantic at some point tomorrow afternoon. This engagement will cause the storm system to accelerate somewhat north-northeast towards Ireland and the UK.
Why will this happen?
As Hurricane Ophelia tracks north from its current position, it will encounter cooler seas and it will eventually come under the influence of the westerlies. The westerlies of the mid-latitudes increase in strength with height, a phenomenon known as vertical wind shear. This shear almost literally chops off the upper part of the hurricane and sweeps it away. Along with the lower sea temperatures of the mid-latitudes this destroys the positive feedback processes within the hurricane. What remains is the former hurricane's low-level circulation which, if conditions are right, becomes the focus of further development.
What weather is expected?
Rain can be expected over the country on Sunday night and into Monday, though the heaviest and most significant rain will remain out to sea in the Atlantic on the western side of the surface low pressure. But there will also be some heavy and possibly thundery bursts rotating around the low centre itself, so it can be reasonably assumed that counties closest to the centre of the low will see the heaviest rainfall.
At the same time, damaging winds will accompany the low centre with wind gusts of 130km/h or more. The most severe winds will be in coastal counties, with lower impacts likely for central areas. In addition, we can expect very high waves. Sea conditions will be dangerous and large waves may lead to coastal flooding.
Can't imagine what the coast is going to be like on Monday. Hopefully no one does anything stupid, like jump off the prom in Salthill..
Weather Underground is usually spot on with it's tracking. I checked it every 6 hours when Hurricane Irma was tracking this way last month. Looks like tropical storm winds for the West of Ireland, there's usually a lot of rain with this type of storm.
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-ophelia
Not many of us remember 1961, this will be a point of reference for the future.
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Quote from: Syferus on October 14, 2017, 09:48:56 PM
Can't imagine what the coast is going to be like on Monday. Hopefully no one does anything stupid, like jump off the prom in Salthill..
No doubt there will be pricks thinking it's their entitlement to surf
Hope we've the wind in the first half
Surely since it's coming to Ireland this ex Hurricane should be renamed O'Phelia.
Time to stock up on the fags.
Quote from: J70 on October 12, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Haven't seen this mentioned here yet. Hope the hay's in the shed!
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?cone#contents (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?cone#contents)
Anyone else finding that leg v attractive?
Quote from: T Fearon on October 15, 2017, 08:43:14 AM
Surely since it's coming to Ireland this ex Hurricane should be renamed O'Phelia.
Don't give up the day job Tony.
QuoteAnyone else finding that leg v attractive?
Definitely curvy.
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During the recent hurricane in Florida, emergency services stated that due to safety concerns, they would not be rescuing anyone who ventured out. If anyone decides to go surfing or sightseeing they should be arrested, never mind rescued
Slightly appropriate today is Chris De Burgh's birthday.
"There is nowhere here to hide,
Waiting for the hurricane"
News saying could be threat to life.... hopefully that doesnt happen
Please look out for your neighbors.
11 people died in the comparable Hurricane Debbie. People sheltering under trees, cars hit by trees and poles, people electrocuted by fallen wires...
The storm will pass in half a day, maybe worth staying out of the way.
should just close all schools
another day off for teachers!
Schools in RED areas are closed now I think anyway. That includes ourselves as we are on the border of Limerick. I remember in 2014 there were a lot of trees down in this area, so I'm expecting something similar. I just hope the house avoids any damage. Stuff flying in the wind can break windows very easily.
The auld fella used to talk about Debby all the time. Haystacks flying off over the hill, bridges being washed away and so on.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 15, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
should just close all schools
another day off for teachers!
That's the problem, you have a once in 50 year event where people will die and all you get are smart Alec remarks about teachers.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 15, 2017, 05:04:17 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 15, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
should just close all schools
another day off for teachers!
That's the problem, you have a once in 50 year event where people will die and all you get are smart Alec remarks about teachers.
ahem, I was trying to get myself a day off
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 15, 2017, 03:41:14 PM
Please look out for your neighbors.
Get out in front of it. Invite the more vulnerable in for the evening. You might save a life. You might meet a neighbour
Red weather alert issued for the entire country
All schools closed.
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
they'll have negotiations about it for a few months first
Sounds reasonable :-\
Even a storm wouldn't go there.
Gave the lawn it's last cut today but didn't see any point in raking up the grass! :)
Quote from: laoislad on October 15, 2017, 08:39:36 PM
Red weather alert issued for the entire country
Only the 26 counties, it will be much calmer in the 6 counties, apparently.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 15, 2017, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 15, 2017, 08:39:36 PM
Red weather alert issued for the entire country
Only the 26 counties, it will be much calmer in the 6 counties, apparently.
The British Met Office reckon nordies are a hardier bunch and only an orange warning is needed.
Yella hoors down south. It isn't even a bloody hurricane at this stage.
A seagull flew overhead in Conleths park today, I've never seen them so far inland before.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on October 15, 2017, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 15, 2017, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 15, 2017, 08:39:36 PM
Red weather alert issued for the entire country
Only the 26 counties, it will be much calmer in the 6 counties, apparently.
The British Met Office reckon nordies are a hardier bunch and only an orange warning is needed.
Its amber not orange.....careful now
Nordies blame southerners for withholding hurricane from the northern cousins instead giving only a watered down tropical storm.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on October 15, 2017, 09:34:05 PM
A seagull flew overhead in Conleths park today, I've never seen them so far inland before.
The fúckers descend any time they notice the hay is cut here.
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2017, 09:39:09 PM
Nordies blame southerners for withholding hurricane from the northern cousins instead giving only a watered down tropical storm.
It is hardly the first time they withheld full participation in something.
Am I getting a day off school or what?
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
Am I getting a day off school or what?
Only if you're a soft Free Stater. They were tough men before 1923 but things have changed in the intervening years.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on October 15, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
Am I getting a day off school or what?
Only if you're a soft Free Stater. They were tough men before 1923 but things have changed in the intervening years.
I live in Ireland tho.
A Hurricane can hardly make the North any worse sure. It might even clean the kip up a bit.
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
[Quote from: OgraAnDun on October 15, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
Am I getting a day off school or what?
Only if you're a soft Free Stater. They were tough men before 1923 but things have changed in the intervening years.
I live in Ireland tho.
In the free bit, tho.
Quote from: laoislad on October 15, 2017, 10:13:37 PM
A Hurricane can hardly make the North any worse sure. It might even clean the kip up a bit.
Probably correct.
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
Am I getting a day off school or what?
You are indeed. Just announced
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
Whereever he lives, manfromdelmonte can stay at home and have a pineapple juice.
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
no they aint... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41631481
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
ye didnt mind us wimps when we dragged you to a World Cup play-off 8)
Schools out... tomorrow.
Another lie in for the lads.
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
no they aint... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41631481
The official line said "should" close. His school sent out a message afterwards saying they were open for business. It's all a bit pathetic closing schools when the business end of the storm won't hit the north til the afternoon anyway.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
no they aint... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41631481
The official line said "should" close. His school sent out a message afterwards saying they were open for business. It's all a bit pathetic closing schools when the business end of the storm won't hit the north til the afternoon anyway.
better safe than sorry as they say
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
no they aint... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41631481
The official line said "should" close. His school sent out a message afterwards saying they were open for business. It's all a bit pathetic closing schools when the business end of the storm won't hit the north til the afternoon anyway.
better safe than sorry as they say
More room on the roads for the workers.
I know...do we normal private sector workers with 18 days hols to take in a year get day off too?
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 15, 2017, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 15, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
All schools in north also closing ye shower of copycat wimps
"Should" close. Eldest lads school have said on Twitter they are staying open.
no they aint... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41631481
The official line said "should" close. His school sent out a message afterwards saying they were open for business. It's all a bit pathetic closing schools when the business end of the storm won't hit the north til the afternoon anyway.
better safe than sorry as they say
Closed now! Missus not happy as Monday is one of her days off and now she has to mind the wains! ;D
They reckon it's not going to hit until about 3pm tomorrow. In the local primary school p1-p3 get out at 2pm every day. Just let the whole school out at 2pm. Simples. No need for school closures if managed correctly.
Wee lie in then! Roads would be too dangerous with all those trees blowing down!
Up the Ophelia
Quote from: clarshack on October 15, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
They reckon it's not going to hit until about 3pm tomorrow. In the local primary school p1-p3 get out at 2pm every day. Just let the whole school out at 2pm. Simples. No need for school closures if managed correctly.
You're literally insane.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 15, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
They reckon it's not going to hit until about 3pm tomorrow. In the local primary school p1-p3 get out at 2pm every day. Just let the whole school out at 2pm. Simples. No need for school closures if managed correctly.
You're literally insane.
Correct Syferus, only possibility. I haven't heard tripe like this in years
Quote from: Orchard park on October 16, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 15, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
They reckon it's not going to hit until about 3pm tomorrow. In the local primary school p1-p3 get out at 2pm every day. Just let the whole school out at 2pm. Simples. No need for school closures if managed correctly.
You're literally insane.
Correct Syferus, only possibility. I haven't heard tripe like this in years
I'm hoping fact he used the word 'simples' meant it was a sarcastic post!!
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.46,48.86,1710/loc=-23.112,57.392
Simpsons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBgqxuaSbM
Dunnes stores closed tomorrow, so I hope you got the milk.
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2017, 12:32:37 AM
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.46,48.86,1710/loc=-23.112,57.392
Oh my god it's totally changed the shape of Ireland.
Storm moved a tad west, Worst impact to be from Galway to Sligo, but still draughty everywhere.
This is going to be a let down isn't it??
Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2017, 12:49:43 AM
Dunnes stores closed tomorrow, so I hope you got the milk.
all 32 counties included so you Nordies have nothing to whinge about being left out.
Couldn't have put it better LL. We are all in this together.
Indeed. The storm won't stop at Belcoo or Middletown etc just because humans put a line on a map.
Stay safe and may we all be posting again from tomorrow.
very underwhelming so far
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 16, 2017, 08:59:44 AM
very underwhelming so far
Plenty of trees down and power out in Cork already...
Just to clarify the fake news spread on social media last night you're still insured if you drive during the weather warning!!
Some people will blindly believe anything that's on a computer screen it really is ridiculous!!
Is this an act of God?
Trees starting to bend here in Tipp now. It's weird though. Big heavy wind for 5 minutes, then an eerie calm again. I think peak will be with us around 12 to 3.
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 16, 2017, 08:59:44 AM
very underwhelming so far
Plenty of trees down and power out in Cork already...
Just to clarify the fake news spread on social media last night you're still insured if you drive during the weather warning!!
Some people will blindly believe anything that's on a computer screen it really is ridiculous!!
I thought it was probably nonsense when I first heard it but it would make sense, like you wouldn't drive through a bonfire and expect to be paid on a claim for fire damage. If you're taking unnecessary risk why would they pay out?
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 12:27:11 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 16, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: clarshack on October 15, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
They reckon it's not going to hit until about 3pm tomorrow. In the local primary school p1-p3 get out at 2pm every day. Just let the whole school out at 2pm. Simples. No need for school closures if managed correctly.
You're literally insane.
Correct Syferus, only possibility. I haven't heard tripe like this in years
I'm hoping fact he used the word 'simples' meant it was a sarcastic post!!
yes, i was being sarcastic but in all seriousness let's hope people don't do anything stupid and stay safe.
Galbally in Limerick is one of the maddest places in the world. Remember the Timmy Ryan 'pull hard, let every stroke be a funeral' sketch from D'Unbelievables? That's based on Galbally.
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Eh? Rarely if ever? You being serious?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Eh? Rarely if ever? You being serious?
I think he's confusing extremists with unionists.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Eh? Rarely if ever? You being serious?
I think he's confusing extremists with unionists.
When I read the headlines " hurricane coming from the republic to wreak havoc in the north"
I thought antrim had drew Galway at home in the 1st round of the league in hurling
She's getting rowdy here in Tipp now. This seems to give a good indication. Click on any part of the country and it gives you the average wind at that time. It doesn't include gusts, which is what we're seeing so far.
Around Kenmare seems to be getting the worst at the moment.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.05,53.03,3000/loc=-8.068,52.902 (https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.05,53.03,3000/loc=-8.068,52.902)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Eh? Rarely if ever? You being serious?
There's a hell of a lot of them that would fit that description.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Quote from: Rois on October 15, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
But it's going to stop at the border - no red warning for the north yet.
Despite Barra Best's "best" attempts BBCNI still taking the line that this is all happening far, far away. ;D
The "Irish Republic" is far, far away for Unionists, as they rarely if ever cross the imaginary border. It might as well be Southern Yemen to them.
Eh? Rarely if ever? You being serious?
There's a hell of a lot of them that would fit that description.
Sweeping generalising statement...
How a topic becomes warped with the usual crap, it's never too far from the surface for some... do yourself a favour and wise up
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2017, 11:43:22 AM
She's getting rowdy here in Tipp now. This seems to give a good indication. Click on any part of the country and it gives you the average wind at that time. It doesn't include gusts, which is what we're seeing so far.
Around Kenmare seems to be getting the worst at the moment.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.05,53.03,3000/loc=-8.068,52.902 (https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-9.05,53.03,3000/loc=-8.068,52.902)
Mayhem here in Dublin.
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/laoislad1978/20171016_083923.jpg) (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/laoislad1978/media/20171016_083923.jpg.html)
Rescue 116 is airborne after a mayday from 2 kite surfers in Dundalk Bay. WHAT THE f**k IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? These 2 should be hauled over the coals.
Need someone else to write stay safe. Just in case.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
Galbally in Limerick is one of the maddest places in the world. Remember the Timmy Ryan 'pull hard, let every stroke be a funeral' sketch from D'Unbelievables? That's based on Galbally.
There's a parallel universe in Galbally up this way.
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 16, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Rescue 116 is airborne after a mayday from 2 kite surfers in Dundalk Bay. WHAT THE f**k IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? These 2 should be hauled over the coals.
No better day for it. Some feckin killjoys about.
You'll get some value out of your kite in Hannahstown today.
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2017, 12:03:08 PM
Need someone else to write stay safe. Just in case.
;D
Now is the time to go for your long puck or longest drive here in Newport. We're getting average windspeed of 75km/h and Gusts up to 135km/h So far nothing major in the way of damage, hopefully it can stay that way for the next 3-4 hours, that's supposed to be the worst time for us. One of our neighbours fence panels just did a helicopter impersonation alright. There's a few massive trees in the fields around our estate, and I wouldn't like to be in their 'fall zone'. They are dancing around like me with a feed of pints in Coppers.
First confirmed fatality in Co. Waterford. Tree fell on car.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
First confirmed fatality in Co. Waterford. Tree fell on car.
Fecks sake. RIP.
That asshole in Galway bay this morning should be f**king arrested for putting his life in risk and those who may have had to go get him
Seems the same strength of wind here since 8 this morning. Few lulls in between. Raining and windy at the moment. I expect it to pick up strength and the lulls to go from now on.
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
Galbally in Limerick is one of the maddest places in the world. Remember the Timmy Ryan 'pull hard, let every stroke be a funeral' sketch from D'Unbelievables? That's based on Galbally.
There's a parallel universe in Galbally up this way.
;D ;D ;D
Jaysis.
https://mobile.twitter.com/calvin_kissane/status/919901028891361281
Turners Cross - Cork City ground
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https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/919918030024527872 (https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/919918030024527872)
Video of Douglas community school roof
Be careful out there folks
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=52.7;-10.3;4&l=gust&w=fast (https://www.ventusky.com/?p=52.7;-10.3;4&l=gust&w=fast)
Doubt Cork city playing away from home for awhile
Reports now of a man killed in Tipp while clearing a fallen tree.
Quote from: Syferus on October 14, 2017, 09:48:56 PM
Can't imagine what the coast is going to be like on Monday. Hopefully no one does anything stupid, like jump off the prom in Salthill..
News interviewing the exasperated Guards and the eejits swimming in the sea and hanging around the prom in Salthill. Asshats.
Quote from: Declan on October 16, 2017, 02:33:09 PM
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/919918030024527872 (https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/919918030024527872)
Video of Douglas community school roof
Be careful out there folks
The only way to be careful is not to go out in it!!
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 14, 2017, 09:48:56 PM
Can't imagine what the coast is going to be like on Monday. Hopefully no one does anything stupid, like jump off the prom in Salthill..
News interviewing the exasperated Guards and the eejits swimming in the sea and hanging around the prom in Salthill. Asshats.
lot of asshats down there judging by the jokes and skits about the storm on social media even after two deaths already reported... eg: Rory's Stories Facebook....
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 14, 2017, 09:48:56 PM
Can't imagine what the coast is going to be like on Monday. Hopefully no one does anything stupid, like jump off the prom in Salthill..
News interviewing the exasperated Guards and the eejits swimming in the sea and hanging around the prom in Salthill. Asshats.
Some folk trying to be legends via social media. Knobheads.
Things getting going here. From a website I'm using to track it I think we're not in the worst position....think the east of the country going to get more of a hammering. Hopefully no more loss of life and minimal injury and damage.
Father lives in wicklow mountains near the wexford border, says the wind of unbelievable proportions at high level
Some serious damage being done in Meath and Dublin. Loads of trees down and lots of places with no electricity. Fairly howling it outside now
and now this
Sky News
@SkyNewsIE
Kite Surfers in Dundalk threaten to make complaints about Emergency service personnel for stopping them Kite Surf in Ophelia.
Schools in occupied 6 counties to remain closed tomorrow
Quote from: Declan on October 16, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
Some serious damage being done in Meath and Dublin. Loads of trees down and lots of places with no electricity. Fairly howling it outside now
and now this
Sky News
@SkyNewsIE
Kite Surfers in Dundalk threaten to make complaints about Emergency service personnel for stopping them Kite Surf in Ophelia.
A good slap and a toe in the arse is the way to handle that complaint. Attention seeking gobshites.
Quote from: Minder on October 16, 2017, 04:37:45 PM
Schools in occupied 6 counties to remain closed tomorrow
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 16, 2017, 04:37:45 PM
Schools in occupied 6 counties to remain closed tomorrow
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
I think the anticipated damage, damage assessment and clean-up is the issue for tomorrow, no?
Quote from: J70 on October 15, 2017, 04:46:30 PM
The auld fella used to talk about Debby all the time. Haystacks flying off over the hill, bridges being washed away and so on.
Debbie does Dungloe.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
it is going to be windy for the rest of the week, but more your normal wind.
I imagine schools remain closed as some roads will be blocked with trees etc and other schools will have no power.
They probably could have opened the city schools no problem, but then you'd have a whine.
Quote from: Fat Angry Motorist on October 16, 2017, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Declan on October 16, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
Some serious damage being done in Meath and Dublin. Loads of trees down and lots of places with no electricity. Fairly howling it outside now
and now this
Sky News
@SkyNewsIE
Kite Surfers in Dundalk threaten to make complaints about Emergency service personnel for stopping them Kite Surf in Ophelia.
A good slap and a toe in the arse is the way to handle that complaint. Attention seeking gobshites.
A golf club.would put manners on them...
Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
it is going to be windy for the rest of the week, but more your normal wind.
I imagine schools remain closed as some roads will be blocked with trees etc and other schools will have no power.
They probably could have opened the city schools no problem, but then you'd have a whine.
I don't live in the city kids and wife don't go to city schools so all good
Power just back here, at least for the moment. Was out for 5 hours or so. Was hairy enough there for a while, a lot of fences and shed roofs damaged, but no major stuff here. A lot of trees down alright, but i actually think the storm of 2014 was probably as bad or worse.
Was it really necessary to close the schools today? Saying that, I won't complain about getting a few days off.
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 06:47:08 PM
Was it really necessary to close the schools today? Saying that, I won't complain about getting a few days off.
Down here yes. It would have been very dangerous for anyone out in that, let alone School buses on country roads.
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Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
it is going to be windy for the rest of the week, but more your normal wind.
I imagine schools remain closed as some roads will be blocked with trees etc and other schools will have no power.
They probably could have opened the city schools no problem, but then you'd have a whine.
I don't live in the city kids and wife don't go to city schools so all good
:o SW man?
Much ado about nothing here in Mid Monaghan.. thankfully
I closed up the business about 3PM, not cause I felt we needed to but that everyone else on the street had closed and didn't think I'd have anyone in. Have re-opened now in the hope that we'll have a few strays in as I know our competitors up the street won't be opening again tonight :)
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
Aye the wife and kids are over joyed!! I'm traveling to Dublin tomorrow, surely it will have passed by then? I thought it was to be gone by 10 tonight!
it is going to be windy for the rest of the week, but more your normal wind.
I imagine schools remain closed as some roads will be blocked with trees etc and other schools will have no power.
They probably could have opened the city schools no problem, but then you'd have a whine.
I don't live in the city kids and wife don't go to city schools so all good
:o SW man?
EA now I suppose!!
I have broken wind that was more dangerous.
Three people died, lads.
Electric just back on now. Was out 3 hours or so.
.....and it's off again. Bastids. Wasting more matches.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
Correct but it doesn't seem to matter here about respect a lot of the time
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
I thought same... and the 'jokes' doing the rounds on social media seem very disrespectful
Bad enough in Dublin atm. Probably the worst its been all day here.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
is loads a jokes and skits about the effects of the storms... dont have to look that hard... check Rorys Stories on Facebook for a start... dozens of them... but ah sure its great aul craic...
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
is loads a jokes and skits about the effects of the storms... dont have to look that hard... check Rorys Stories on Facebook for a start... dozens of them
So was Rory making jokes about the people dying?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
is loads a jokes and skits about the effects of the storms... dont have to look that hard... check Rorys Stories on Facebook for a start... dozens of them
So was Rory making jokes about the people dying?
about the effects of the storm, people died duh!!
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
is loads a jokes and skits about the effects of the storms... dont have to look that hard... check Rorys Stories on Facebook for a start... dozens of them
So was Rory making jokes about the people dying?
about the effects of the storm, people died duh!!
Be hard job to be a comedian nowadays I'd say
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:33:15 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: longballin on October 16, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Three people died, lads.
If people were making jokes about the people dying then yes you'd be right...
I haven't heard one joke about it to be fair
If you look hard enough to be offended you will
is loads a jokes and skits about the effects of the storms... dont have to look that hard... check Rorys Stories on Facebook for a start... dozens of them
So was Rory making jokes about the people dying?
about the effects of the storm, people died duh!!
Be hard job to be a comedian nowadays I'd say
I suppose different people have different sense of humour...
Yeah if he or anyone made jokes about someone dying then yes... but if I say I've hurled in worse (as up here it's not that bad) then it's in poor taste? Wise up
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Feck sake. People will comment on the effects of the storm, near them. Schools have been closed for two days here. IMO, the weather hasn't been that bad here so far and there has been a major over reaction.
I appreciate that the storm has been much worse in other parts of Ireland and sadly people have died due to its effects.
Not that the jokes bother me so much but it's a hurricane, hitting the country, that we can't predict... 3 people have died and you think there's been an over reaction??
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Feck sake. People will comment on the effects of the storm, near them. Schools have been closed for two days here. IMO, the weather hasn't been that bad here so far and there has been a major over reaction.
I appreciate that the storm has been much worse in other parts of Ireland and sadly people have died due to its effects.
Not that the jokes bother me so much but it's a hurricane, hitting the country, that we can't predict... 3 people have died and you think there's been an over reaction??
I can only imagine the queue of eejits lining up to complain if we'd underreacted to a forecastable event and a few dozen had died.
I think they didn't really know for sure its exact path and strength. Best to fear the worst.
This morning the US Agency that monitors hurricanes and tropical storms said Galway, Mayo, Sligo and Donegal would get the worst of the storm. The eye of the storm tracked over those counties or close to them but the worst of the winds were to the south and east of the eye due to the anticlockwise rotation of the storm and the fact that wind speed dissipates over land. Now if the experts made an error this morning it shows the unpredictability of these storms. 3 people died.....can you imagine if schools, businesses were open and people were going about their everyday activities what might have happened? Especially given that the information early this morning turned out to be inaccurate?
You don't mess with the weather and if theres a side to err on, let it be overreaction. I was very worried all weekend that we were too blasé about the whole thing. Eventually we got there with common sense decision at the 11th hour.
Closing all schools tomorrow is overkill I feel. Should have been left up to local BOM's/principals to decide.
Some arseholes here will justify their lack of empathy no matter what, or claim it's comedy
One would think it's a bigger issue schools are closed than 3 families lost their loved ones by reading posts here
Yes but up here there has been far worse windy days, and schools are closed two days, which I've no problems with, business closed for the day, but someone making jokes about how the wind is not that bad has the PC police up in arms is just stupid, and using three people dying (which no one has made fun of) as a means to post is daft
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Feck sake. People will comment on the effects of the storm, near them. Schools have been closed for two days here. IMO, the weather hasn't been that bad here so far and there has been a major over reaction.
I appreciate that the storm has been much worse in other parts of Ireland and sadly people have died due to its effects.
Not that the jokes bother me so much but it's a hurricane, hitting the country, that we can't predict... 3 people have died and you think there's been an over reaction??
It's not really a hurricane though. It's fairly windy. Schools have closed for 2 days. Nearly every shop in the district has closed. That is over reaction, for me.
3 poor souls were very unfortunate today and God help their people.
Wouldn't there have been a risk of more people dying if schools, etc. weren't closed though? I wouldn't consider it over reaction, just taking precautions
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 16, 2017, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Feck sake. People will comment on the effects of the storm, near them. Schools have been closed for two days here. IMO, the weather hasn't been that bad here so far and there has been a major over reaction.
I appreciate that the storm has been much worse in other parts of Ireland and sadly people have died due to its effects.
Not that the jokes bother me so much but it's a hurricane, hitting the country, that we can't predict... 3 people have died and you think there's been an over reaction??
It's not really a hurricane though. It's fairly windy. Schools have closed for 2 days. Nearly every shop in the district has closed. That is over reaction, for me.
3 poor souls were very unfortunate today and God help their people.
Wouldn't there have been a risk of more people dying if schools, etc. weren't closed though? I wouldn't consider it over reaction, just taking precautions
Exactly. You really have to spell it out it seems.
Small.......far away....
Up my direction it has been a bit windy alright but nothing really bad. Getting a day off school tomorrow again though. A bit unnecessary.
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 16, 2017, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 16, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Feck sake. People will comment on the effects of the storm, near them. Schools have been closed for two days here. IMO, the weather hasn't been that bad here so far and there has been a major over reaction.
I appreciate that the storm has been much worse in other parts of Ireland and sadly people have died due to its effects.
Not that the jokes bother me so much but it's a hurricane, hitting the country, that we can't predict... 3 people have died and you think there's been an over reaction??
It's not really a hurricane though. It's fairly windy. Schools have closed for 2 days. Nearly every shop in the district has closed. That is over reaction, for me.
3 poor souls were very unfortunate today and God help their people.
Wouldn't there have been a risk of more people dying if schools, etc. weren't closed though? I wouldn't consider it over reaction, just taking precautions
Not here. Twas tropical.
Perhaps but difficult to know that in advance especially in such a relatively small area as Ireland
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
Up my direction it has been a bit windy alright but nothing really bad. Getting a day off school tomorrow again though. A bit unnecessary.
Exactly. I didn't ever see a report anywhere that there was going to be an issue tomorrow.
There hasn't even been an issue today in this part of the country.
There might well be some issues not that far away, after all a man died in Ravensdale, and I'd say it is pretty draughty in the north-west right now, but they chose not itemise the schools concerned.
i suppose with thousands of school children and buses etc better to be over cautious than sorry...
The reason the schools are closed is simple! They aren't aware if there is any damage at schools so collectively they closed them all to assess if there is damage and get it sorted... there are some areas down with electric but that's happened before...
The over reaction is based purely on how the weather is now, not how it was predicted... people dying has not been joked about or anything else other than grief for their families, but the usual suspects who have an agenda of sorts (god only knows what) will pick on something and make that their bee in their bonnet!
Nothing worth talking about in Armagh. f**king cleared a pile of shite in the garage to put the car in. Never again!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 16, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Nothing worth talking about in Armagh. f**king cleared a pile of shite in the garage to put the car in. Never again!
You must live in a cave. Power cuts and trees down. Not comparable to other parts of the country but still hundreds of homes were without power earlier. Probably worth talking about no?
Quote from: general_lee on October 16, 2017, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 16, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Nothing worth talking about in Armagh. f**king cleared a pile of shite in the garage to put the car in. Never again!
You must live in a cave. Power cuts and trees down. Not comparable to other parts of the country but still hundreds of homes were without power earlier. Probably worth talking about no?
We regularly get the end of hurricanes from the USA that do worse damage. Down South seems to have gotten it tight though all the same.
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 10:27:45 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 16, 2017, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 16, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Nothing worth talking about in Armagh. f**king cleared a pile of shite in the garage to put the car in. Never again!
You must live in a cave.
He used to but moved to Armagh years ago.
;D Decent work again there!
Quote from: general_lee on October 16, 2017, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 16, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Nothing worth talking about in Armagh. f**king cleared a pile of shite in the garage to put the car in. Never again!
You must live in a cave. Power cuts and trees down. Not comparable to other parts of the country but still hundreds of homes were without power earlier. Probably worth talking about no?
I can only speak about what I have seen. Power didn't flicker once, no real noise around the house. I'll know in the morning if there are any trees down or other issues.
Much ado about nothing. I got a wash dried on the clothes line so wasn't all bad.
3 deaths, 350,000 houses without electricity isn't exactly "nothing".
How may deaths if we had full on daily business and lorry traffic, commuter travel and countless thousands of schoolkids and students all out and about?
And it was bloody bad in Southern parts and Salthill of course.
To those who say it was a nothing event. Be very thankful it brushed past because for many it didn't.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 16, 2017, 10:55:11 PM
3 deaths, 350,000 houses without electricity isn't exactly "nothing".
How may deaths if we had full on daily business and lorry traffic, commuter travel and countless thousands of schoolkids and students all out and about?
And it was bloody bad in Southern parts and Salthill of course.
I don't know? How many? We still have clampits out kite surfing, swimming off Salthill pier and walking up mountains putting more people at harm (emergency services)
So now the add ons are 350,000 without electricity! f**k give it up! Been plenty storms where electric goes out, but hey, it comes back on again! Living out in the sticks you'd have thought you boys would be used to no electric
It's still blustery here in Tipp. Did anyone see the trampoline on top of the steeple in Moate? Imagine if that came down in a car....
Milltown rural electrifiction came to Ros in the 1950s 25 years before the 6 Cos "sticks".
Probably 20 lives saved today by the Christmas day like closedown.
Hasnt stopped where i am but im halfway up a mountain at edge of Belfast. Anything not tied down has disappeared
If all hadnt been sent home early there would have been many more fatalities
RIP to the 3 and god bless their families
The late 90s on Christmas eve was a worse storm with little warning about it unlike today with non stop coverage on TV or social media. Thankfully this storm wasn't as bad but unfortunately it was still a storm that claimed the lives of 3 people RIP.
98 wasnt it?
Followed by a brutal freeze burst pipes everyroad
There was a bit one mid noughties too wasnt there? Brought down a tear of trees around us
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 17, 2017, 01:46:15 AM
The late 90s on Christmas eve was a worse storm with little warning about it unlike today with non stop coverage on TV or social media. Thankfully this storm wasn't as bad but unfortunately it was still a storm that claimed the lives of 3 people RIP.
Stephen's Day 98 I think it was, was quite a bad storm that day.
We seem not to have been too badly affected around here anyway, the winds a bit bigger than what we sometimes get but not drastically so.
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Is that a 2 points or 3 points score?
A
Brian is next!
After a storm like that you need a little tea shake.
https://www.facebook.com/thisisiradio/videos/1625702304157506/?hc_ref=ARQTZI7JzsAiwQksu6xlIqd37ZQTPRHTzb4i0braEBg2f0JHs8ltmV5cUgmhERfRwPo
The whole question of insensitivity is exemplified by this story on an Ann Frank costume:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41651066
Was it insensitive or not?
Can I still wear a Nazi uniform ato a fancy dress party?
Quote from: Orior on October 17, 2017, 04:24:08 PM
The whole question of insensitivity is exemplified by this story on an Ann Frank costume:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41651066
Was it insensitive or not?
Can I still wear a Nazi uniform ato a fancy dress party?
You've manged to find a connection where there is none here.
Clowns jumping into the sea and kite surfing when there's an alert like this on, putting the lives of first responders at risk. It should be illegal and punishable with a bit of jail time. Gobs*****s.
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
"What are you in for?"
"I went swimming on a rotten aul day."
And I'm innocent like you
Grrr!
Some of these guys could be e.g. Ukrainian that literally aren't clued into the local news.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 17, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Clowns jumping into the sea and kite surfing when there's an alert like this on, putting the lives of first responders at risk. It should be illegal and punishable with a bit of jail time. Gobs*****s.
I was listening to the radio today and these people were justifying themselves and some other woman who was swimming in Dun Laoghaire who reckoned it was her business and alerts did not apply to her.
Weather was very poor down rounf Kerry; Cork etc; alot of people saying it wasnt that bad especially in the north as if its an over reaction!
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
"What are you in for?"
"I went swimming on a rotten aul day."
I guess the lives of emergency service personnel doesn't matter a jot to you if you're making quips.
There should be a punishment for willfully ignoring a red alert and potentially putting others in danger. At minimum a fine with the proceeds going to the services tasked with dealing with the eejits when it all goes wrong.
Agreed Syfīn.
For once......
People should be free to jump in the water or go kite surfing whenever they like. The emergency services should be free to let them at it and if they drown that's their own business. Personal responsibility.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 06:21:44 AM
People should be free to jump in the water or go kite surfing whenever they like. The emergency services should be free to let them at it and if they drown that's their own business. Personal responsibility.
Absolutely, turn around and drive away
Quote from: Syferus on October 18, 2017, 12:43:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
"What are you in for?"
"I went swimming on a rotten aul day."
I guess the lives of emergency service personnel doesn't matter a jot to you if you're making quips.
There should be a punishment for willfully ignoring a red alert and potentially putting others in danger. At minimum a fine with the proceeds going to the services tasked with dealing with the eejits when it all goes wrong.
This is very simple.
If you ignore warnings and have to be rescued, you are then liable for the entire cost of the rescue.
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 18, 2017, 12:43:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
"What are you in for?"
"I went swimming on a rotten aul day."
I guess the lives of emergency service personnel doesn't matter a jot to you if you're making quips.
There should be a punishment for willfully ignoring a red alert and potentially putting others in danger. At minimum a fine with the proceeds going to the services tasked with dealing with the eejits when it all goes wrong.
This is very simple.
If you ignore warnings and have to be rescued, you are then liable for the entire cost of the rescue.
I would agree with that.
It's been reported that the Dundalk kite surfers will lodge a complaint against the emergency services for stopping them. It might well be the case that they felt they could handle the conditions and we're being unnecessarily policed. They should be free to make their own choice but anyone who engages in water sports during a red weather warning should not be rescued.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
It's been reported that the Dundalk kite surfers will lodge a complaint against the emergency services for stopping them. It might well be the case that they felt they could handle the conditions and we're being unnecessarily policed. They should be free to make their own choice but anyone who engages in water sports during a red weather warning should not be rescued.
I can see both sides of the argument here, though in saying that, they shouldn't be lodging a complaint. Kite surfers, like all those who partake in coastal, water sports will access the weather charts and will fairly accurately know the conditions from one hour to the next. In their heads, the winds earlier in the day were heaven sent and the conditions were probably 'gnarly' with great reward.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
It's been reported that the Dundalk kite surfers will lodge a complaint against the emergency services for stopping them. It might well be the case that they felt they could handle the conditions and we're being unnecessarily policed. They should be free to make their own choice but anyone who engages in water sports during a red weather warning should not be rescued.
One issue was that they don't seem to have told the coastguard they would be out, so the coastguard couldn't be sure if was them that the reports were about and not someone else.
On a point of detail the weather warning might have been slightly more nuanced, coming in effect a 8am in Cork but not 12 noon in Dundalk, then they would not have out in a red warning.
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
Absolutely.
Fkn arse holes.
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?
If someone is hsppy to drive without a seat belt and take the risks, are we happy for them to do so.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?
In a society there are laws and precautions taken for the greater good. In this case a weather warning was in place to protect the general population and save lives. These people breached that. We cannot pick and choose which laws or regulations we adhere to. If we don't have these measures we have anarchy which I don't believe is in anyone's interest.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?
I'd agree, provided these people are happy enough to waive their entitlement to have the emergency services come and sort them out when they get into bother. A good dose of Darwinism should sort things out pretty quickly after that.
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Guy died trying to clear a tree from the road to prevent accidents..the rest died as a result of trees falling on them, how Sid got that and twisted it is beyond me!
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now,
I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Seriously, are you being a bollix to be awkward or what.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on October 18, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Seriously, are you being a bollix to be awkward or what.
I'm trying to tease out the logic and implications of language like "Darwinism" and "leave them out there".
But it appears the people who agree with such language think they're just being teased.
Wonder why that is.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?
probably the most appropriate username anseo
Extreme sports like hurling, or Tyrone club football?
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
There are people who have to work even when everyone else is told to stay indoors.
- Policemen
- Ambulance drivers
- Firemen
- Doctors
- Nurses
There were suggestions that community halls and leisure centres should have been catering for the homeless. Clearly the people who run the community centre would have to leave their own home to go to the community centre.
I'm sure that those who went swimming know fine well that there was no life guard on duty, and did it for the thrill. The same kind of thrill that motor cyclists yearn when racing around the Northwest or Tandradgee 100.
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
Sid, you are either a troll or just a bit thick if you can't tell the difference between a person who goes out swimming or kite surfing in "normal" weather and a person who wilfully ignores warnings associated with storm conditions. That's the cutoff point for the rescue services and they should refuse to put themselves at risk to save people who ignore warnings.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2017, 07:06:19 PM
Sid, you are either a troll or just a bit thick if you can't tell the difference between a person who goes out swimming or kite surfing in "normal" weather and a person who wilfully ignores warnings associated with storm conditions. That's the cutoff point for the rescue services and they should refuse to put themselves at risk to save people who ignore warnings.
What proportion of people who need to be rescued, be it at sea, on a mountain, or wherever, get into difficulty because the conditions are not safe?
A very high proportion, I'd imagine.
The fact is, operating in unsafe conditions is part of the nature of the job for rescue teams.
Everybody who made an unnecessary journey of any sort during the warning period, ignored that warning.
The point is that this event was a once in 55 year affair and it wouldn't hurt anyone to sit it out just thus once.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 18, 2017, 08:23:24 PM
The point is that this event was a once in 55 year affair and it wouldn't hurt anyone to sit it out just thus once.
Of course not - who said it would have?
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2017, 08:41:38 PM
Or face jail.
"What are you in for?"
"Murder. What are you in for?"
"Going kite surfing in a storm."
We'll be hearing calls for jaywalkers to be thrown in prison next.
"Let's be more like North Korea" is the message, I think.
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
If that's the sort of points you want to make then you can consider them addressed by my previous post. Tell you what, every time you type out another post containing this drivel, refer back to this and it will give you my response. It will save us both a lot of time. Good man.
Did all the pubs close?
'Awesome' stuff all the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFacIAc1Oo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFacIAc1Oo)
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
If that's the sort of points you want to make then you can consider them addressed by my previous post. Tell you what, every time you type out another post containing this drivel, refer back to this and it will give you my response. It will save us both a lot of time. Good man.
Well, if I've encouraged you to offer no more new insight on this thread I think I'll have done both of us a service...
The Yanks have this stuff down
Have the police declare all the beaches closed by emergency order
If anyone steps foot on a beach they are immediately charged with criminal trespass.
No rescuing of anyone who ignores emergency orders
Sid - I would draw the line at people who engage in water sports during a red weather warning. People will always venture out, even in the worst conditions. Only a select few eejits/thrill seekers get into the water.
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
If that's the sort of points you want to make then you can consider them addressed by my previous post. Tell you what, every time you type out another post containing this drivel, refer back to this and it will give you my response. It will save us both a lot of time. Good man.
Well, if I've encouraged you to offer no more new insight on this thread I think I'll have done both of us a service...
If you want to refer to your posts as 'insight' that's up to you. I think the rest of us can see it for what it is. Idiocy or trolling. Neither being of much interest.
Quote from: Franko on October 19, 2017, 07:14:32 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
If that's the sort of points you want to make then you can consider them addressed by my previous post. Tell you what, every time you type out another post containing this drivel, refer back to this and it will give you my response. It will save us both a lot of time. Good man.
Well, if I've encouraged you to offer no more new insight on this thread I think I'll have done both of us a service...
If you want to refer to your posts as 'insight' that's up to you. I think the rest of us can see it for what it is. Idiocy or trolling. Neither being of much interest.
"The rest of us" ;D
I got a right laugh out of somebody who writes the following thinking somebody else is trolling.
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 12:53:36 PM
A good dose of Darwinism should sort things out pretty quickly after that.
Don't apply for any sort of position in any sort of rescue service any time soon would be my advice to you.
not a kiter but a surfer on the same coast at probably around the same time (judging by the Sky tweet)..worth a read
http://www.thejournal.ie/surfer-storm-ophelia-3652493-Oct2017/
And people hoped he'd drown, and we've a resident tough guy on here who wanted to take a golf club to the surf kiters
Much is being made out of a few individuals indulging in extreme sports, taking advantage of the waves and wind, however ill advised.
Keeping Dublin Airport open and allowing planes to attempt landings was certifiably reckless.
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 10:07:38 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 19, 2017, 07:14:32 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?
That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.
No, we are not.
Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.
Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.
Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.
If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.
Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?
The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".
Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.
If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?
Absolute idiot about covers it.
If you could address some of the points I raised, that would be nice.
There seems to be a general feeling here among a lot of posters that rescue teams of different varieties should leave people stranded, if they have ventured out in conditions that are not safe, or at best ask them to pay for the costs of the rescue.
That's a terribly US Republican view, isn't it?
And it would apply to most cases which rescue teams have to deal with, I suspect.
But to come back to the logic of the "leave them out there" mindset, how do we pick which cases are deserving of rescue and which aren't? How do we decide who should pay for the cost of their own rescue and who shouldn't?
And if some people who go out unnecessarily in a Code Red weather warning are "idiots", surely isn't everybody who goes out unnecessarily an "idiot"??
And what about employers who could easily have given their employees the day off, but didn't? Aren't they idiots?
There's even an undercurrent on this thread now where people such as yourself are referring to people who participate in certain sports as needing "a good dose of Darwinism", because these sports are dangerous.
That sort of view is a very silly one, even idiotic, I'd suggest.
If that's the sort of points you want to make then you can consider them addressed by my previous post. Tell you what, every time you type out another post containing this drivel, refer back to this and it will give you my response. It will save us both a lot of time. Good man.
Well, if I've encouraged you to offer no more new insight on this thread I think I'll have done both of us a service...
If you want to refer to your posts as 'insight' that's up to you. I think the rest of us can see it for what it is. Idiocy or trolling. Neither being of much interest.
"The rest of us" ;D
I got a right laugh out of somebody who writes the following thinking somebody else is trolling.
Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 12:53:36 PM
A good dose of Darwinism should sort things out pretty quickly after that.
Don't apply for any sort of position in any sort of rescue service any time soon would be my advice to you.
Glad you were fit to enjoy a giggle.
Given your credibility on this, you'll forgive me for not lending much weight to your 'advice'.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 11:05:55 AM
not a kiter but a surfer on the same coast at probably around the same time (judging by the Sky tweet)..worth a read
http://www.thejournal.ie/surfer-storm-ophelia-3652493-Oct2017/
And people hoped he'd drown, and we've a resident tough guy on here who wanted to take a golf club to the surf kiters
His argument is very much along the lines of "I'm an advanced driver I should be allowed to speed though it wouldn't be safe for other drivers who are not as good as me".
Quote from: LeoMc on October 19, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
His argument is very much along the lines of "I'm an advanced driver I should be allowed to speed though it wouldn't be safe for other drivers who are not as good as me".
Exactly.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 01:33:56 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 19, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
His argument is very much along the lines of "I'm an advanced driver I should be allowed to speed though it wouldn't be safe for other drivers who are not as good as me".
Exactly.
you pair sound like my father when we head out to the west Donegal coast in the middle of winter ! Down with that sort of thing
I'm a decent swimmer. Would you swim on a beach with a Red Flag? I wouldn't.
Anyone who went out unnecessarily in that storm, when they were advised not to, was certainly putting themselves at risk, however driving down to the chemist, or trying to go visit a sick relative or something, is a long way removed from deliberately putting yourself in a potentially perilous position, for no reason other than a selfish desire to seek a thrill.
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
I'm a decent swimmer. Would you swim on a beach with a Red Flag? I wouldn't.
Anyone who went out unnecessarily in that storm, when they were advised not to, was certainly putting themselves at risk, however driving down to the chemist, or trying to go visit a sick relative or something, is a long way removed from deliberately putting yourself in a potentially perilous position, for no reason other than a selfish desire to seek a thrill.
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
+1
Thanks for bringing the thread back to sanity.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
I'm a decent swimmer. Would you swim on a beach with a Red Flag? I wouldn't.
Anyone who went out unnecessarily in that storm, when they were advised not to, was certainly putting themselves at risk, however driving down to the chemist, or trying to go visit a sick relative or something, is a long way removed from deliberately putting yourself in a potentially perilous position, for no reason other than a selfish desire to seek a thrill.
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
I'd agree with that, but there was a farmer on the news the other night who climbed up onto a shed roof at the height of the storm to fix it down and to my mind that was the other side of complete madness even if the intentions were for the right reasons.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
I'm a decent swimmer. Would you swim on a beach with a Red Flag? I wouldn't.
Anyone who went out unnecessarily in that storm, when they were advised not to, was certainly putting themselves at risk, however driving down to the chemist, or trying to go visit a sick relative or something, is a long way removed from deliberately putting yourself in a potentially perilous position, for no reason other than a selfish desire to seek a thrill.
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
that's fair enough, though you are viewing this from someone not into extreme sports. Extreme is the key word. Others however may come from a different stand point. And Franko thanks you for bringing the thread back to sanity. Even on a mild enough day, is surfing the big waves @ Aileens anywhere near sane? Would youse be in favour of stopping these men? I'd go out in fairly hairy conditions, but I wouldn't get towed out there for a fortune !
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
I'm a decent swimmer. Would you swim on a beach with a Red Flag? I wouldn't.
Anyone who went out unnecessarily in that storm, when they were advised not to, was certainly putting themselves at risk, however driving down to the chemist, or trying to go visit a sick relative or something, is a long way removed from deliberately putting yourself in a potentially perilous position, for no reason other than a selfish desire to seek a thrill.
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
that's fair enough, though you are viewing this from someone not into extreme sports. Extreme is the key word. Others however may come from a different stand point. And Franko thanks you for bringing the thread back to sanity. Even on a mild enough day, is surfing the big waves @ Aileens anywhere near sane? Would youse be in favour of stopping these men? I'd go out in fairly hairy conditions, but I wouldn't get towed out there for a fortune !
Yes, but the difference here is that there was an explicit warning given which said NOT to do things like this on that particular day. These people chose to ignore the warning and do it anyway. For fun.
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
What's "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way?"
Is playing hurling "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way"?
Putting yourself on a pitch with 29 other people frantically swinging big sticks definitely sounds like "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way" to me. And for recreational purposes, too.
If I thought you were serious I'd answer you.
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
What's "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way?"
Is playing hurling "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way"?
Putting yourself on a pitch with 29 other people frantically swinging big sticks definitely sounds like "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way" to me. And for recreational purposes, too.
what a stupid ignoramus
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
I suppose I'm trying to see this through the extreme folks eyes. They'd have read the charts and seen that the east coast was fairly hairy, but nothing worse than many other days on the coast up until late afternoon when the storm kicks in a bit more. You'd be fairly certain no-one would have ventured in down in West Cork at dawn.
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
You'd imagine a bit of cop on would come into play, especially when the red warning was in place.
Quote from: Rawhide on October 19, 2017, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 19, 2017, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
So I would certainly be in favour of those putting themselves deliberately in harms way, particularly for recreational purposes, would be charged the cost of the emergency services coming out to rescue or remove them.
What's "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way?"
Is playing hurling "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way"?
Putting yourself on a pitch with 29 other people frantically swinging big sticks definitely sounds like "deliberately putting yourself in harm's way" to me. And for recreational purposes, too.
what a stupid ignoramus
coming from the creator of the tony keady widow post nothing surprises me
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
I suppose I'm trying to see this through the extreme folks eyes. They'd have read the charts and seen that the east coast was fairly hairy, but nothing worse than many other days on the coast up until late afternoon when the storm kicks in a bit more. You'd be fairly certain no-one would have ventured in down in West Cork at dawn.
You'd have to assume that if they read the charts, they'd also have been aware of the warnings. The fact that it was going to get a hell of a lot worse in the afternoon was no surprise to anyone.
Couldn't these people be charged / detained for failing to obey the directions of the Gardai?
Quote from: Franko on October 19, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
I suppose I'm trying to see this through the extreme folks eyes. They'd have read the charts and seen that the east coast was fairly hairy, but nothing worse than many other days on the coast up until late afternoon when the storm kicks in a bit more. You'd be fairly certain no-one would have ventured in down in West Cork at dawn.
You'd have to assume that if they read the charts, they'd also have been aware of the warnings. The fact that it was going to get a hell of a lot worse in the afternoon was no surprise to anyone.
exactly, he did read and understand the charts. Sure the surfer himself says 'to put the picture in context it was taken at 1:30pm before the wind picked up before the hurricane hit Dublin'. He was home and hosed before the hurricane hit
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 19, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
I suppose I'm trying to see this through the extreme folks eyes. They'd have read the charts and seen that the east coast was fairly hairy, but nothing worse than many other days on the coast up until late afternoon when the storm kicks in a bit more. You'd be fairly certain no-one would have ventured in down in West Cork at dawn.
You'd have to assume that if they read the charts, they'd also have been aware of the warnings. The fact that it was going to get a hell of a lot worse in the afternoon was no surprise to anyone.
exactly, he did read and understand the charts. Sure the surfer himself says 'to put the picture in context it was taken at 1:30pm before the wind picked up before the hurricane hit Dublin'. He was home and hosed before the hurricane hit
Understood, but this went against all warnings and advice issued by the authorities. On any other day things may indeed be a bit 'hairy' but nobody has been explicitly warned not to venture into the water. The warning applied all day to the best of my knowledge.
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Sure what would you know.
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
So this storm's still raging
Quote from: ONeill on October 19, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Sure what would you know.
Shrup ye bollocks.
Quote from: JoG2 on October 19, 2017, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
JoG2,
Yes, I understand that. But my view on that was that not only are the conditions perilous, but the high winds make it perilous for others who might have to come and rescue you. So it's not just about you doing something dangerous, it's about you potentially getting someone else do do something dangerous to help you. I think it shows a bit of disregard for others.
In the normal course of events, Extreme Sports are not banned, so there is an acceptance that some lunatics (:) ) might have to be rescued, but at least the conditions for the rescue itself are not necessarily as dangerous as last Monday.
I suppose I'm trying to see this through the extreme folks eyes. They'd have read the charts and seen that the east coast was fairly hairy, but nothing worse than many other days on the coast up until late afternoon when the storm kicks in a bit more. You'd be fairly certain no-one would have ventured in down in West Cork at dawn.
Those 2 wind surfers didn't need rescuing, it was a false alarm. They were already on shore before the rescue team got there.
Meanwhile 3 men on a 10m yacht had to be rescued by the Rosslare lifeboat with 10 volunteers aboard who had to bear the brunt of force 9 and a 6m swell to get to them.
Planes were being allowed to attempt landings at Dublin Airport in wind speeds way above the red line danger mark, endangering the lives of all aboard.
Don't people think that just a little bit odd?
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 02:27:35 PM
If I thought you were serious I'd answer you.
Well, you mentioned so called "extreme sports" as sports where people put themselves "in harm's way". Other posters have mentioned things like motorcycle racing with the implication that perhaps they should be banned.
But why single out these sports?
Why not hurling?
Or rugby?
Or American football?
Or horse riding?
Or any motorsport?
Or any combat sport?
All these sports are sports where participants are putting themselves "in harm's way".
To use the logic that has been thrown around on this thread, shouldn't the cost of ambulances and emergency medical treatment for any injured party in these sports be borne by those injured people because "they put themselves in harm's way"?
Or should it only apply to "extreme sports" because, well, other people participate in them, not "us"?
Moto GP races don't generally happen at a time when the emergency services are all stretched to the limit because a hurricane is pounding the country. If someone comes off a motorbike it's usually easy enough to get an ambulance on the scene. And at no risk of drowning in mountainous seas either.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
I wouldn't be one of those who say 'leave them there' or 'let them drown'. You can't do that, and our rescue services wouldn't do that.
Our health service let's people die all the time though. Ask anyone of the thousands who are deteriorating on waiting lists.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 20, 2017, 01:06:48 AM
Moto GP races don't generally happen at a time when the emergency services are all stretched to the limit because a hurricane is pounding the country. If someone comes off a motorbike it's usually easy enough to get an ambulance on the scene. And at no risk of drowning in mountainous seas either.
Or at a time when the authorities specifically tell you NOT to have a MotoGP race.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 19, 2017, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
Did we?
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 20, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 19, 2017, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
Did we?
Well yeah Seanie. In saying there's not too many reasonable and thoughtful people here, you're assuming yourself and those who share your opinion to be that small contingent.Hardy did it too, but maybe it's a good thing that the reasonable and thoughtful posters have enough self awareness to know they are are always right and not be distracted by alternative opinions.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 20, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 20, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 19, 2017, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
Did we?
Well yeah Seanie. In saying there's not too many reasonable and thoughtful people here, you're assuming yourself and those who share your opinion to be that small contingent.Hardy did it too, but maybe it's a good thing that the reasonable and thoughtful posters have enough self awareness to know they are are always right and not be distracted by alternative opinions.
Oh right. You see that was my opinion. I didn't realised it carried the weight of anointment.....I'll have to be careful with those powers.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 20, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 20, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 19, 2017, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
Did we?
Well yeah Seanie. In saying there's not too many reasonable and thoughtful people here, you're assuming yourself and those who share your opinion to be that small contingent.Hardy did it too, but maybe it's a good thing that the reasonable and thoughtful posters have enough self awareness to know they are are always right and not be distracted by alternative opinions.
Sure nobody did say that.
There was more an implication that there are a small contingent of arseholes on this thread.
Who are not reasonable and thoughtful.
It appears you consider yourself to be in this small contingent.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-16.39,43.21,711/loc=-17.644,44.893
Another hoor out there
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 20, 2017, 10:07:29 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 20, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 20, 2017, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 19, 2017, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 19, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 19, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
There is lot of bollix in this thread.
There is difference between ban all activities with any risk and for one day in 50 years let's not do things that might put the rescue services under pressure.
It's just a microcosm of every other thread on this site and of internet "discussions" in general. AZOffaly's post (#248) is all that needs to be said about this subject by anyone who is reasonable and thoughtful.
Not too many like that.
It's good of you to anoint yourselves as the reasonable and thoughtful ones.
Did we?
Well yeah Seanie. In saying there's not too many reasonable and thoughtful people here, you're assuming yourself and those who share your opinion to be that small contingent.Hardy did it too, but maybe it's a good thing that the reasonable and thoughtful posters have enough self awareness to know they are are always right and not be distracted by alternative opinions.
Oh right. You see that was my opinion. I didn't realised it carried the weight of anointment.....I'll have to be careful with those powers.
:D
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2017, 01:43:46 PM
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-16.39,43.21,711/loc=-17.644,44.893
Another hoor out there
Thanks for that link!
Rough looking in South Asia
Anyway, can't let this thread fizzle out without this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjqcTsxx-8).