Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[Armagh18]

Big win for Cullyhanna against Liatroim who are a decent side. Fancy Cullyhanna now to beat Division 1 Ballyhaise in the Final.

Don't worry the Cavan folk will tell you that the league doesn't matter and playing div 1 football is no advantage.

Speaking to Armagh lads I know they say Cullyhanna were a senior team playing intermediate.

The team that was relegated was definitely intermediate standard. They've got a load of lads back, younger lad improved big time and are now on their way back to senior. Although senior in Armagh doesn't mean much sure Cross walked Armagh 2 years in a row and were embarrassed in Ulster.

[intheknowhow]

Big win for Cullyhanna against Liatroim who are a decent side. Fancy Cullyhanna now to beat Division 1 Ballyhaise in the Final.

Don't worry the Cavan folk will tell you that the league doesn't matter and playing div 1 football is no advantage.

Speaking to Armagh lads I know they say Cullyhanna were a senior team playing intermediate.

They played Div 2A this year in Armagh which is their 3rd Division. They lost the final of it. They had to win the champ then to be promoted.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

[statto]

Should league status not seed your championship?

No, I don't think it should. In Armagh the leagues and championships are linked. This year Shane O'Neills were competing in the senior championship having won both the intermediate championship and league in 2022.
They finished bottom of the senior league in 2023 having been without their 3 county players for basically every game.
This meant they were relegated to intermediate, unless they won the senior championship. However they were also 4th seeds when the senior championship draw was made due to their final league position, therefore further punishing them for being without their best players for the league.
In my opinion that system is much more unfair than the system in Cavan. Play leagues during the county season by all means, give lads football and a chance of winning a bit of silverware etc, but it should not in any way be linked to championship football later in the year.

They finished second bottom in intermediate and finished as fourth seeds for the championship.clan na Gael won last game to finish as third seeds and got to the final.shanes are an intermediate side even with county men should lost the intermediate final year before.lost all games in championship aggregate of minus 23.there would have been no one in Armagh hoping to avoid Shane's from pot 4 of championship.

[intheknowhow]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

They play in the 3rd Division in Armagh. Ballyhaise Div 1.

[statto]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

They play in the 3rd Division in Armagh. Ballyhaise Div 1.

having saw the ballyhaise game yesterday would expect cullyhanna to beat them.

[Dreadnought]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

They play in the 3rd Division in Armagh. Ballyhaise Div 1.

Are you ok fella? You're quite obsessed on this...

[general_lee]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

The team that finished second in the third tier of league football in the Armagh leagues.

Cullyhanna were the 18th placed team in the Armagh league structures this season. No cooking the books in Armagh, unlike Cavan.

[ranch]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

Cullyhanna were the 18th placed team in the Armagh league structures this season. No cooking the books in Armagh, unlike Cavan.

Do you think if every club in Armagh are at full strength that they're the 18th best team in the county? Personally, I don't. They would push, and probably beat, teams such as Mullabawn, Dromintee, Silverbridge. The fact they're in intermediate due to a poor league performance in 2022, when they were short of their best players, shows why league and championship shouldn't be linked in my view.

Good luck to Cullyhanna in the final, it would be great to see them get a crack at an all Ireland.

[nrico2006]

Sure wasn't it a Cavan club who appealed against Ballinderry fielding an underage player in the Ulster Minor Club years back?

[ranch]

And also against a Monaghan club winning the Ulster Junior about 10 years ago for playing an underage player.

[marty34]

And have they not played amalagmation teams in the St. Paul's Minor tournament in Belfast also?

Maybe other counties do it also?

[intheknowhow]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

They play in the 3rd Division in Armagh. Ballyhaise Div 1.

Are you ok fella? You're quite obsessed on this...

Well you are defending that it's totally fine that your 3 representatives in Ulster this year play Div 1 football in Cavan. You can talk all you want but think about that .....

[clarshack]

And also against a Monaghan club winning the Ulster Junior about 10 years ago for playing an underage player.

Corduff played an U-16 player in the 2010 Ulster Junior Final and were stripped of their title. Ridiculous rule to appeal but that's what happens. Swanlinbar ended up getting a hiding from the Kerry Champions. Some sort of Karma I Suppose.

[general_lee]

Massive win for Cullyhanna today v Liatroim. Sad to see Armagh abusing the system and senior team playing intermediate but thats what Cavan Club teams are up against.

I for one will be supporting Ballyhaise the underdog in the final.

Cullyhanna were the 18th placed team in the Armagh league structures this season. No cooking the books in Armagh, unlike Cavan.

Do you think if every club in Armagh are at full strength that they're the 18th best team in the county? Personally, I don't. They would push, and probably beat, teams such as Mullabawn, Dromintee, Silverbridge. The fact they're in intermediate due to a poor league performance in 2022, when they were short of their best players, shows why league and championship shouldn't be linked in my view.

Good luck to Cullyhanna in the final, it would be great to see them get a crack at an all Ireland.

At full strength they're a similar standard of about 10 teams in Armagh who'd all beat each other on any given day. They were short their best players for near 15 years and stayed senior that entire time. They'd a few extra men unavailable for one reason or another last year and got relegated. Not like any eyebrows were raised, they then lost 4 times in the 3rd tier of the leagues this year which IMO shows that was their level.