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[whitey]

Sid-if you show up at the correct polling place and your name isn't in the register what happens?

Are you (a) not allowed to vote OR (b) allowed cast a provisional ballot?

[Eamonnca1]

Sid-if you show up at the correct polling place and your name isn't in the register what happens?

Are you (a) not allowed to vote OR (b) allowed cast a provisional ballot?

Don't answer this, Sid. Let him address the voter suppression efforts. Let's see him justify purging people from the electoral roles in vast numbers over obscure technicalities. Let's hear his justification for why not showing up at a few elections is justification for having your name scrubbed off the register.

[J70]

You don't think there's a legitimate reason (assuming your assertion is correct) that the majority of the media, including many conservatives, are anti-Trump?

DeSantis and Kemp chanced their arm, going against the public health expertise. Circumstances may mean they'll get away with it (time will tell), but there was hardly much design to their strategies. One does wonder though what influence all those spring breakers had on infections elsewhere? And both administration have had accusations leveled at them in the past week for fixing the numbers.

And in case you'd forgotten, Trump himself condemned Kemp.

Cuomo is getting plenty of criticism for the nursing home issue and expecting them to take and adequately care for COVID-infected residents. Their motivation was a desire to preserve hospital space in light of the dire predictions (coming from the Feds BTW) at the time, but their directive was obviously extremely problematic in retrospect. Its a significant black mark against an otherwise mature and competent performance on Cuomo's part.

two of trumps policies he was running on last time have  shown to be crucial in the pandemic having strong tight border control and trying to get away from relying on China for most everything we consume and need , they are very simple messages but I don't think anyone would disagree with them now .
On couple of other things Georgia is doing good and seems to be out of the woods , Texas has lowest hospitalization since early April and the data lady in Florida is turning out to be just what I said a disgruntled insubordinate worker .
Mr bright also seems to be a disgruntled worker and he has gone to the back burner which is a sign he had no dirt to tell , on a positive note for bright he was transferred not fired and is still on his 295k salary so don't feel too sorry for him .

We'll see how much people start disagreeing with Chinese manufacturing when the price of everything starts to increase. There's a reason all those jobs left the west, simple capitalism and consumption.

As for borders, give me a break. The major source of the outbreak in NYC was Europe. Are you saying Trump is going to start restricting ALL travel into the US forever? Because diseases as easily transmissible and infectious as COVID-19 are going to be circulating way before anyone knows about it.

As for Richard Bright... er.... he testified before Congress a few days ago; he was on 60 minutes on Sunday night (promoting a petulant tweet storm from you know who) and is in the midst of a major and public whistleblower investigation into his allegation that he was retaliated against and demoted.  How is he "on the back burner"?

Georgia very much remains to be seen. Hopefully for us all they do get lucky. Doesn't make Kemp any less reckless or ill-informed.

The Florida lady - also remains to be seen. I see DeSantis laying into her today.

[Gmac]

You don't think there's a legitimate reason (assuming your assertion is correct) that the majority of the media, including many conservatives, are anti-Trump?

DeSantis and Kemp chanced their arm, going against the public health expertise. Circumstances may mean they'll get away with it (time will tell), but there was hardly much design to their strategies. One does wonder though what influence all those spring breakers had on infections elsewhere? And both administration have had accusations leveled at them in the past week for fixing the numbers.

And in case you'd forgotten, Trump himself condemned Kemp.

Cuomo is getting plenty of criticism for the nursing home issue and expecting them to take and adequately care for COVID-infected residents. Their motivation was a desire to preserve hospital space in light of the dire predictions (coming from the Feds BTW) at the time, but their directive was obviously extremely problematic in retrospect. Its a significant black mark against an otherwise mature and competent performance on Cuomo's part.

two of trumps policies he was running on last time have  shown to be crucial in the pandemic having strong tight border control and trying to get away from relying on China for most everything we consume and need , they are very simple messages but I don't think anyone would disagree with them now .
On couple of other things Georgia is doing good and seems to be out of the woods , Texas has lowest hospitalization since early April and the data lady in Florida is turning out to be just what I said a disgruntled insubordinate worker .
Mr bright also seems to be a disgruntled worker and he has gone to the back burner which is a sign he had no dirt to tell , on a positive note for bright he was transferred not fired and is still on his 295k salary so don't feel too sorry for him .

We'll see how much people start disagreeing with Chinese manufacturing when the price of everything starts to increase. There's a reason all those jobs left the west, simple capitalism and consumption.

As for borders, give me a break. The major source of the outbreak in NYC was Europe. Are you saying Trump is going to start restricting ALL travel into the US forever? Because diseases as easily transmissible and infectious as COVID-19 are going to be circulating way before anyone knows about it.

As for Richard Bright... er.... he testified before Congress a few days ago; he was on 60 minutes on Sunday night (promoting a petulant tweet storm from you know who) and is in the midst of a major and public whistleblower investigation into his allegation that he was retaliated against and demoted.  How is he "on the back burner"?

Georgia very much remains to be seen. Hopefully for us all they do get lucky. Doesn't make Kemp any less reckless or ill-informed.

The Florida lady - also remains to be seen. I see DeSantis laying into her today.

I said have a tight secure border nothing about travel.
Nothing will come of bright if you are going against the policy of the current administration you work for you are lucky to be transferred but mostly fired ask Michael Flynn .

[sid waddell]

Don't answer this, Sid. Let him address the voter suppression efforts. Let's see him justify purging people from the electoral roles in vast numbers over obscure technicalities. Let's hear his justification for why not showing up at a few elections is justification for having your name scrubbed off the register.

Sure I have him on ignore, he's a troll and an idiot who hasn't once answered a question on this thread going back years. He isn't here to debate or acknowledge reality in any way.

Let him windmill away.

[sid waddell]

Nothing will come of bright if you are going against the policy of the current administration you work for you are lucky to be transferred but mostly fired ask Michael Flynn .

Michael Flynn didn't go against the policy of the Trump regime in any way, he was carrying it out. He resigned, he wasn't fired. He was specifically put into the position he was in, where he had access to literally every piece of intelligence available to the US, precisely because he's a foreign agent. He was brought in specifically to undermine US national security. And Trump is only gagging to bring him back into the cabinet.

So, when are we going to see the transcripts of all Flynn's conversations with Kislyak?

[whitey]

Data Disprove the 'Voter Suppression' Myth
Democrats scapegoat photo-ID laws for losses in states where minority turnout rose in 2018.

By  Jason L. Riley
May 7, 2019 6:40 pm ET
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Stacey Abrams, the defeated Georgia gubernatorial candidate, speaks in New York, April 3.
PHOTO: MICHAEL NIGRO/ZUMA PRESS
It has long been an article of faith on the political left that Republicans win elections by disenfranchising certain voting blocs. We are told that requiring voters to present photo identification at polling places not only depresses minority turnout but is tantamount to racial discrimination. The evidence challenging these assumptions gets stronger with every passing election, but Democrats and most of the political press don't seem to have noticed.

At an NAACP dinner in Detroit on Sunday, Sen. Kamala Harris told the audience that "voter suppression" in Georgia and Florida cost Democrats gubernatorial races in the 2018 midterm elections. "Let's say this loud and clear," said Ms. Harris, a Democratic presidential candidate. "Without voter suppression, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida."

A few days earlier, Ms. Abrams herself, apparently still bitter over her defeat, made a similar claim. "We had an architect of voter suppression that spent the last eight years knitting together a system of voter suppression that is unparalleled in America," said Ms. Abrams in reference to her Republican opponent, Brian Kemp, a former Georgia secretary of state. "I've never seen a community of people work so hard to strip away our rights and our humanity as fast as they can." But if mandating voter ID, removing inactive voters from registration rolls or limiting early voting harms minorities, where is the evidence?


It just so happens that two weeks ago the Census Bureau released a report on voter turnout in 2018, which climbed 11 percentage points from the last midterm election, in 2014, and surpassed 50% for the first time since 1982. Moreover, the increased turnout was largely driven by the same minority voters Democrats claim are being disenfranchised. Black turnout grew around 27%, and Hispanic turnout increased about 50%. An analysis of the census data published by the Pew Research Center found that "all major racial and ethnic groups saw historic jumps in voter turnout" last year.

None of this comes as news to anyone who pays attention to sober facts instead of inflammatory rhetoric. The black voter turnout rate for the most part has grown steadily since the 1990s. This has occurred notwithstanding an increase in state voter-ID requirements over the same period. In 2012 blacks voted at higher rates than whites nationwide, including in Georgia, which was one of the first states in the country to implement a photo-ID requirement for voting. Ms. Abrams claims that Republicans have been hard at work trying to disenfranchise black voters, but the reality is that black voter registration is outpacing white registration in the Peach State.

Nor is it at all clear that minority voters share the view of politicians and activists who have chosen to racialize a debate over ensuring the accuracy and integrity of U.S. elections. Ms. Harris may feel that identification requirements for banking and flying should not apply to voting, but most people don't have a problem with them. In a 2016 Gallup poll, voter-ID laws were supported by 4 in 5 respondents, including 95% of Republicans, 63% of Democrats, 81% of whites and 77% of nonwhites. In a 2012 survey published by the Washington Post, approval was similarly broad and deep, with 78% of whites, 65% of blacks and 64% of Hispanics expressing support for voter ID laws. When will Democrats learn how to lose an election without playing the race card?

If more people from different backgrounds are participating in American democracy, this is progress. But what's good for the country in that respect isn't necessarily good for President Trump's re-election prospects. In 2016, Mr. Trump won Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania—representing a combined 46 electoral votes—by less than a percentage point. If the Democratic nominee holds the states that Hillary Clinton won and flips those three, Mr. Trump is a one-term president.


Whether Mrs. Clinton fell short in the Rust Belt because blacks hadn't forgiven her for challenging Barack Obama in 2008 or because they felt taken for granted and stayed home, we'll never know for certain. But there's a reason Democrats chose Milwaukee for their nominating convention in 2020. And if the 2018 midterms are any indication of what's to come next year, Democratic turnout won't be a problem.

The Democrats' real fear is that people will vote their pocketbooks. Under Mr. Trump, working-class minorities in particular have experienced generational lows in unemployment and seen their wages grow at a faster clip than their supervisors'. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that a new survey suggests the president is "making headway with select groups of Americans who disapprove of his job performance but are willing to credit him for a bustling economy, revealing a block of voters that his re-election campaign is likely to target in the coming months." That frightens Democrats far more than any supposed "voter suppression" effort by their opponents.

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Upward Mobility
"Upward Mobility" focuses on politics, public policy and urban affairs--schools, crime, unions, race relations, poverty, policing and the like.The goal is to let facts, rather than political correctness, show the way. It is published online every Tuesday evening and in print on Wednesdays.

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Jason L. Riley
Jason L. Riley

Jason Riley is a member of The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board. He joined the paper in 1994 as a copyreader on the national news desk in New York. He moved to the editorial page in 1995 as copyreader and later became a copy editor. In April 1996, he was named to the newly created position of editorial interactive editor and maintained the editorial and Leisure & Arts section of WSJ.com. He was named a senior editorial page writer in March 2000, and member of the Editorial Board in 2005.

Born in Buffalo, N.Y., Mr. Riley earned a bachelor's degree in English from the State University of New York at Buffalo. He has also worked for USA Today and the Buffalo News.

[omochain]

Data Disprove the 'Voter Suppression' Myth
Democrats scapegoat photo-ID laws for losses in states where minority turnout rose in 2018.

By  Jason L. Riley
May 7, 2019 6:40 pm ET
SAVE
PRINT
TEXT
229

Stacey Abrams, the defeated Georgia gubernatorial candidate, speaks in New York, April 3.
PHOTO: MICHAEL NIGRO/ZUMA PRESS
It has long been an article of faith on the political left that Republicans win elections by disenfranchising certain voting blocs. We are told that requiring voters to present photo identification at polling places not only depresses minority turnout but is tantamount to racial discrimination. The evidence challenging these assumptions gets stronger with every passing election, but Democrats and most of the political press don't seem to have noticed.

At an NAACP dinner in Detroit on Sunday, Sen. Kamala Harris told the audience that "voter suppression" in Georgia and Florida cost Democrats gubernatorial races in the 2018 midterm elections. "Let's say this loud and clear," said Ms. Harris, a Democratic presidential candidate. "Without voter suppression, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida."

A few days earlier, Ms. Abrams herself, apparently still bitter over her defeat, made a similar claim. "We had an architect of voter suppression that spent the last eight years knitting together a system of voter suppression that is unparalleled in America," said Ms. Abrams in reference to her Republican opponent, Brian Kemp, a former Georgia secretary of state. "I've never seen a community of people work so hard to strip away our rights and our humanity as fast as they can." But if mandating voter ID, removing inactive voters from registration rolls or limiting early voting harms minorities, where is the evidence?


It just so happens that two weeks ago the Census Bureau released a report on voter turnout in 2018, which climbed 11 percentage points from the last midterm election, in 2014, and surpassed 50% for the first time since 1982. Moreover, the increased turnout was largely driven by the same minority voters Democrats claim are being disenfranchised. Black turnout grew around 27%, and Hispanic turnout increased about 50%. An analysis of the census data published by the Pew Research Center found that "all major racial and ethnic groups saw historic jumps in voter turnout" last year.

None of this comes as news to anyone who pays attention to sober facts instead of inflammatory rhetoric. The black voter turnout rate for the most part has grown steadily since the 1990s. This has occurred notwithstanding an increase in state voter-ID requirements over the same period. In 2012 blacks voted at higher rates than whites nationwide, including in Georgia, which was one of the first states in the country to implement a photo-ID requirement for voting. Ms. Abrams claims that Republicans have been hard at work trying to disenfranchise black voters, but the reality is that black voter registration is outpacing white registration in the Peach State.

Nor is it at all clear that minority voters share the view of politicians and activists who have chosen to racialize a debate over ensuring the accuracy and integrity of U.S. elections. Ms. Harris may feel that identification requirements for banking and flying should not apply to voting, but most people don't have a problem with them. In a 2016 Gallup poll, voter-ID laws were supported by 4 in 5 respondents, including 95% of Republicans, 63% of Democrats, 81% of whites and 77% of nonwhites. In a 2012 survey published by the Washington Post, approval was similarly broad and deep, with 78% of whites, 65% of blacks and 64% of Hispanics expressing support for voter ID laws. When will Democrats learn how to lose an election without playing the race card?

If more people from different backgrounds are participating in American democracy, this is progress. But what's good for the country in that respect isn't necessarily good for President Trump's re-election prospects. In 2016, Mr. Trump won Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania—representing a combined 46 electoral votes—by less than a percentage point. If the Democratic nominee holds the states that Hillary Clinton won and flips those three, Mr. Trump is a one-term president.


Whether Mrs. Clinton fell short in the Rust Belt because blacks hadn't forgiven her for challenging Barack Obama in 2008 or because they felt taken for granted and stayed home, we'll never know for certain. But there's a reason Democrats chose Milwaukee for their nominating convention in 2020. And if the 2018 midterms are any indication of what's to come next year, Democratic turnout won't be a problem.

The Democrats' real fear is that people will vote their pocketbooks. Under Mr. Trump, working-class minorities in particular have experienced generational lows in unemployment and seen their wages grow at a faster clip than their supervisors'. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that a new survey suggests the president is "making headway with select groups of Americans who disapprove of his job performance but are willing to credit him for a bustling economy, revealing a block of voters that his re-election campaign is likely to target in the coming months." That frightens Democrats far more than any supposed "voter suppression" effort by their opponents.

Copyright ©2020 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cdeb8
Appeared in the May 8, 2019, print edition.


About this article
Upward Mobility
"Upward Mobility" focuses on politics, public policy and urban affairs--schools, crime, unions, race relations, poverty, policing and the like.The goal is to let facts, rather than political correctness, show the way. It is published online every Tuesday evening and in print on Wednesdays.

+ Show More
Jason L. Riley
Jason L. Riley

Jason Riley is a member of The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board. He joined the paper in 1994 as a copyreader on the national news desk in New York. He moved to the editorial page in 1995 as copyreader and later became a copy editor. In April 1996, he was named to the newly created position of editorial interactive editor and maintained the editorial and Leisure & Arts section of WSJ.com. He was named a senior editorial page writer in March 2000, and member of the Editorial Board in 2005.

Born in Buffalo, N.Y., Mr. Riley earned a bachelor's degree in English from the State University of New York at Buffalo. He has also worked for USA Today and the Buffalo News.

As always Whitey an opinion piece from the Murdoch Stable from a big defender of Trickle down economics.. for once think ... write for yourself and stop using right wing opinion pieces to attempt to validate your BS

[Gmac]

Nothing will come of bright if you are going against the policy of the current administration you work for you are lucky to be transferred but mostly fired ask Michael Flynn .

Michael Flynn didn't go against the policy of the Trump regime in any way, he was carrying it out. He resigned, he wasn't fired. He was specifically put into the position he was in, where he had access to literally every piece of intelligence available to the US, precisely because he's a foreign agent. He was brought in specifically to undermine US national security. And Trump is only gagging to bring him back into the cabinet.

So, when are we going to see the transcripts of all Flynn's conversations with Kislyak?

obama fired him because of his differences over Middle East policy , giving billions to Iran
Arab spring, isis jv team etc

[whitey]

Omo-I asked him a direct question which he won't answer about Voter suppression and his lackey Eamonn is claiming it's not a valid question

Having lived her for 30 years....voter suppression is the same as voter fraud.....non existent

[sid waddell]

Nothing will come of bright if you are going against the policy of the current administration you work for you are lucky to be transferred but mostly fired ask Michael Flynn .

Michael Flynn didn't go against the policy of the Trump regime in any way, he was carrying it out. He resigned, he wasn't fired. He was specifically put into the position he was in, where he had access to literally every piece of intelligence available to the US, precisely because he's a foreign agent. He was brought in specifically to undermine US national security. And Trump is only gagging to bring him back into the cabinet.

So, when are we going to see the transcripts of all Flynn's conversations with Kislyak?

obama fired him because of his differences over Middle East policy , giving billions to Iran
Arab spring, isis jv team etc

Read your own first post in this exchange before making a tit of yourself.

Michael Flynn resigned.

[RadioGAAGAA]

The Democrats' real fear is that people will vote their pocketbooks. Under Mr. Trump, working-class minorities in particular have experienced generational lows in unemployment and seen their wages grow at a faster clip than their supervisors'. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that a new survey suggests the president is "making headway with select groups of Americans who disapprove of his job performance but are willing to credit him for a bustling economy, revealing a block of voters that his re-election campaign is likely to target in the coming months." That frightens Democrats far more than any supposed "voter suppression" effort by their opponents.

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Appeared in the May 8, 2019, print edition.

That thought train appears to have departed the station to destination unknown!

[sid waddell]

The Democrats' real fear is that people will vote their pocketbooks. Under Mr. Trump, working-class minorities in particular have experienced generational lows in unemployment and seen their wages grow at a faster clip than their supervisors'. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that a new survey suggests the president is "making headway with select groups of Americans who disapprove of his job performance but are willing to credit him for a bustling economy, revealing a block of voters that his re-election campaign is likely to target in the coming months." That frightens Democrats far more than any supposed "voter suppression" effort by their opponents.

Copyright ©2020 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cdeb8
Appeared in the May 8, 2019, print edition.

That thought train appears to have departed the station to destination unknown!

Trump has been the worst president for the economy in history.

Same as he's been the worst president in history by any other measurement.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Trump has been the worst president for the economy in history.

Same as he's been the worst president in history by any other measurement.

He got lucky off the back of the good work Obama did in getting the economy off its knees.

But, they lapped it up as it appeared to happen on his watch, the inertia of trillion dollar economies is far beyond the comprehension of the typical MAGA voter.


I've lost count now of the number of things he's done, and got away with, that would almost certainly have ended any other Presidency. His undermining of the media really has destroyed accountability within the US.

The USA really isn't far away from morphing into a fascist state. Add the incoming depression into the mix and its a powderkeg.

[sid waddell]

Trump has been the worst president for the economy in history.

Same as he's been the worst president in history by any other measurement.

He got lucky off the back of the good work Obama did in getting the economy off its knees.

But, they lapped it up as it appeared to happen on his watch, the inertia of trillion dollar economies is far beyond the comprehension of the typical MAGA voter.


I've lost count now of the number of things he's done, and got away with, that would almost certainly have ended any other Presidency. His undermining of the media really has destroyed accountability within the US.

Trump runs a white supremacist mob cult which rejects science, rejects reason and rejects truth. It needs to be called what it is.

Funny that one of the things he whinged about in 2015 and 2016 was so called "political correctness" - ie. respecting people based on their gender/ethnicity/sexuality/religion.

Failure to call Trump what he is and he runs - a cult leader of a white supremacist cult - is real political correctness - political correctnesss that benefits him.

There is no such thing as "white nationalism", it is white supremacism, out and out racism.

Failure to call it what it is is modified language to avoid the real truth for political reasons, for fear of threats, intimidation and actual physical harm.