Football All stars 2021

[Ed Ricketts]

Is this the first year were the young player of the year didn't win an All Star?

It's happened a lot for Mayo players. Cillian O'Connor won Young player of the year 2011, 2012 didnt win All star the same happened for brother Diarmuid in 2015/16

Happens a lot for everyone. Fewer than 1 in 3 YPOTY awards covert to full All Stars. Bit of a silly question from the Dub.

For most of award's history it has been used as a quasi 16th All Star, especially in years with stronger competition for places.

[blanketattack]

How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It's hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don't deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I'd imagine McKernan's discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Again, Kerry lost to Tyrone despite being heavy favourites and having beaten them by 16 points at the end of the League. Kerry generally do well in the League and have lost the Munster Championship once in a decade, should they be nailed on for a minimum of three All-Stars every year then?

Favouritism relates to the volume of money being bet on either team. Why should that have anything to do with All-Stars or anything else for that matter? Kerry beating Tyrone by 16 points in the league only adds to their All-Star merits, for some bizarre reason you think it should count against them, as if losing to them by 16 points would have been better.
Kerry's only loss between Div 1 and C'ship was to lose to the Champions by 1 pt AET, compared to Mayo who performed meekly in their most important game, particularly in the crucial home straight, and the outcome wasn't in doubt long before it ended.
Contrast that to Kerry who put it up to Tyrone all the way through, and the game was still in the melting pot until the final whistle.

[Gael85]

How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It's hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don't deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I'd imagine McKernan's discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Again, Kerry lost to Tyrone despite being heavy favourites and having beaten them by 16 points at the end of the League. Kerry generally do well in the League and have lost the Munster Championship once in a decade, should they be nailed on for a minimum of three All-Stars every year then?

Favouritism relates to the volume of money being bet on either team. Why should that have anything to do with All-Stars or anything else for that matter? Kerry beating Tyrone by 16 points in the league only adds to their All-Star merits, for some bizarre reason you think it should count against them, as if losing to them by 16 points would have been better.
Kerry's only loss between Div 1 and C'ship was to lose to the Champions by 1 pt AET, compared to Mayo who performed meekly in their most important game, particularly in the crucial home straight, and the outcome wasn't in doubt long before it ended.
Contrast that to Kerry who put it up to Tyrone all the way through, and the game was still in the melting pot until the final whistle.

A long time when league results counted towards All Stars. Probably had tougher  A v B games than 3 games in munster.

[J70]

Is this the first year were the young player of the year didn't win an All Star?

It's happened a lot for Mayo players. Cillian O'Connor won Young player of the year 2011, 2012 didnt win All star the same happened for brother Diarmuid in 2015/16

Happens a lot for everyone. Fewer than 1 in 3 YPOTY awards covert to full All Stars. Bit of a silly question from the Dub.

For most of award's history it has been used as a quasi 16th All Star, especially in years with stronger competition for places.

Michael Murphy in 2009.

Think Ryan McHugh in 2014 also.

[Gael85]

All Stars are always a mess!
How the hell did Oisin Mullen get YPOTY?
There is a Monopoly among the BIG counties always.

Others nominated for Young player of the year was Matthew Tierney (Galway) Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) do you believe one of those should have won it instead of Mullen?

U20 player of the year should be confined to u20 championship.  Should increase young player to u23. With change from u21 to 20 not many lads u20 starting senior championship.

[rrhf]

Is this the first year were the young player of the year didn't win an All Star?

It's happened a lot for Mayo players. Cillian O'Connor won Young player of the year 2011, 2012 didnt win All star the same happened for brother Diarmuid in 2015/16

Happens a lot for everyone. Fewer than 1 in 3 YPOTY awards covert to full All Stars. Bit of a silly question from the Dub.

For most of award's history it has been used as a quasi 16th All Star, especially in years with stronger competition for places.

Michael Murphy in 2009.

Think Ryan McHugh in 2014 also.

Happened with Cormac Mc Anallen as well.

[Wildweasel74]

Tierney was good but only played 2 championship games. And struggled against Mayo. Canavan injured at the wrong time.

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[imtommygunn]

There was a good show on RTÉ last night about 50 years of all stars. They'd some good interviews with people like Joe Connolly, (I think it was joe but one of the Connolly brothers), Peter canavan , Michael lyster and some family of the ones who came up with the all stars. (Tommy Walsh too and the earleys)

[Rossfan]

That was John Connolly.
Was nice to see and hear the Earleys.