Football All stars 2021

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blanketattack

Quote from: greatpoint on December 10, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It's hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don't deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I'd imagine McKernan's discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Milltown Row2

Whoever played the Covid card deserves an all star
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Wildweasel74

Clifford not score rightly through the league?

Gael85

Quote from: imtommygunn on December 10, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
Would O'Sullivan have deserved one?

Probably get All Star for scoring in most games. In 3 munster championship games spent more time in the forwards when pressed up on opposition kickouts. His marker usually played out the field.  The only championship game played in defence had a good first half on McCurry who then came into the game after that.  Would have McKiernan in before him.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: dublin7 on December 10, 2021, 09:11:29 PM
Is this the first year were the young player of the year didn't win an All Star?


It's happened a lot for Mayo players. Cillian O'Connor won Young player of the year 2011, 2012 didnt win All star the same happened for brother Diarmuid in 2015/16

Goals_Will_Come

O'Sullivan and Kilkenny getting all stars. Ridiculous stuff. Any of Michael McKernan, Paddy Durcan, Ronan McNammee, Frank Burns, Tommy Conroy, Jack McCarron, Mattie Donnelly, Cathal McShane and Conor McKenna would have been more deserving.
Suspect they didn't want to give Tyrone 5/6 defensive positions.

greatpoint

Quote from: blanketattack on December 10, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on December 10, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It’s hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don’t deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I’d imagine McKernan’s discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Again, Kerry lost to Tyrone despite being heavy favourites and having beaten them by 16 points at the end of the League. Kerry generally do well in the League and have lost the Munster Championship once in a decade, should they be nailed on for a minimum of three All-Stars every year then?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: greatpoint on December 11, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 10, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on December 10, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It's hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don't deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I'd imagine McKernan's discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Again, Kerry lost to Tyrone despite being heavy favourites and having beaten them by 16 points at the end of the League. Kerry generally do well in the League and have lost the Munster Championship once in a decade, should they be nailed on for a minimum of three All-Stars every year then?

I think they do generally well in the championship as well, multiple All Ireland's
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

greatpoint

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on December 11, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 10, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on December 10, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
How in under God did Kerry get the same number of All-Stars as Mayo? It's hilarious. Mayo take down the Dubs and make the final but still apparently don't deserve more than a team that won no games outside of their province. 

Paudie Clifford must have got one for his performances in the Munster Championship because it certainly had nothing to do with the semi-final.

I'd imagine McKernan's discipline worked against him when it came to All-Star selection.

The best team in Ireland in 2021 was Tyrone, and Kerry lost to them by a point after extra time.
Tyrone had Mayo beaten a long way out from the final whistle in the final.
Mayo might have beaten Dublin but Dublin were a pale shadow of themselves, especially evident in earlier games such as v Meath.
Any kudos Mayo got from beating Dublin was more than lost in the poor showing in the All-Ireland final.

Also, league form plays a part. Kerry were joint winners with the best record overall with a points difference of +44 across the 4 games.

On that basis Kerry are at least as deserving as the same amount as Mayo.

Again, Kerry lost to Tyrone despite being heavy favourites and having beaten them by 16 points at the end of the League. Kerry generally do well in the League and have lost the Munster Championship once in a decade, should they be nailed on for a minimum of three All-Stars every year then?

I think they do generally well in the championship as well, multiple All Ireland's

In that case, Kerry should be expecting a minimum of five All-Stars a year. They're actually being treated very unfairly.

Milltown Row2

In what case? should  it should be based on getting x amount all stars because they were favourites against Tyrone! Completely stupid comment.

If losing by a point against the eventual winners after extra time, in the championship are they the best team Tyrone met? If not then other counties should have got more all stars!

Stupid recognition process anyway, have no thrill for this in any form be in inter county or club related. Completely flawed
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

From the Bunker

All Stars are always a mess!
How the hell did Oisin Mullen get YPOTY?
There is a Monopoly among the BIG counties always.

greatpoint

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2021, 08:51:17 PM
In what case? should  it should be based on getting x amount all stars because they were favourites against Tyrone! Completely stupid comment.

If losing by a point against the eventual winners after extra time, in the championship are they the best team Tyrone met? If not then other counties should have got more all stars!

Stupid recognition process anyway, have no thrill for this in any form be in inter county or club related. Completely flawed

(I wasn't being serious pet)

Your comment about Kerry generally doing well in the Championship and "multiple Irelands" holds no relevance. Kerry have fallen off a cliff in the last 12 years in terms of their historical All-Ireland record. Despite this they have remained strong in the league and Munster Championship, which is what I said.

Blowitupref

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2021, 10:54:33 PM
All Stars are always a mess!
How the hell did Oisin Mullen get YPOTY?
There is a Monopoly among the BIG counties always.

Others nominated for Young player of the year was Matthew Tierney (Galway) Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) do you believe one of those should have won it instead of Mullen?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

shark

Lads, it's a novelty award. Just like the ballon d'or. It's a team sport. Stop allowing sponsors to tell you it matters. It doesn't.

Rossfan

I'm surprised some people are still taking this nonsense seriously.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM