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My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

Keyser, in my experience a good auld moan and gripe is the common language of humanity. I've spent plenty of time abroad and worked with many nationalities and the average gaa fan or poster on this board is no different to the majority everywhere else (well west coast USA with their unwavering positivity might be the exception).
And as for your comment on posters probably not being members, I suspect the vast majority of us are pretty involved with gaa at some level. We are the diehards or we wouldn't be on here in the first place. Not that many people find discussions on the kickout strategies of Armagh all that interesting you know....

There certainly are diehards on here but a majority, definitely not.

There was a thread on ticket selling on here recently.

Not only was there just one poster, of the many who contributed to the thread, who had actually gone out to sell tickets, but there were quite a few who were complaining about being asked to buy a ticket by clubs coming to their door, and there were even a few calling for it to be banned.

Like what sort of GAA person would begrudge being ASKED to voluntarily contribute a few quid to the GAA, by a person who is giving up their time to travel around the country to raise funds for their local club. The people selling the tickets are diehards, people whinging about it on Gaaboard are blowhards.

So no I don't agree that a majority are GAA diehards, their diehardness extends to going to county matches and complaining their hole off on GAA board about stuff they probably know very little about.

And yes that would indeed include Armagh kickout strategies

You seem to have a very narrow agenda.

I've:

- played football for 35 years.
- coached and selected at teams from under-8 to senior, including the past 8 years unbroken.
- spent over 15 years on our club committee, including 5 as treasurer.
- served as our county board rep for a couple of years and on a county board subcommittee for a year.
- acted as a team liaison for our county minors for two years.

And my sincere opinion is that if a club from say County Derry cannot find the funds within their own parish, community, town, county to build whatever it they think they need, then they've no business asking people from say County Down to put their hands in their pockets and pay for it.

Am I not GAA enough to be entitled to this opinion?

No issue with you holding that opinion at all.

My opinion would be that the GAA is a national organisation and one which raison d'etre was to promote Irish games and pastimes on a national basis.  (Just checked there - the words Nation/National are mentioned in the preface to the Official Guide 10 times).

My sincerely held opinion is that there should be zero issue with clubs fundraising on a national basis (if practicalities allowed).

I think we should take it as a source of pride that members a club in Antrim would see fit to contribute to a club in Kerry (or vice versa).  Indeed, it is entirely in line with the aims and ethos of the association.

The parish/town/county element of it should be left to the actual games only.

I'd think along these lines too. Wouldn't refuse a seller at the door. In saying that, and jot this down, Derry City is the great untapped city as regards ticket sellers from outside the place. 95% are miserable heurs right enough, but it's a numbers game.
I came 3rd in a South Donegal draw about 15 years ago, wasn't a while pile tbh, and didn't even cash the cheque. (lost it, but that's neither here nor there)

[They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

This was much more defensive orientated Derry team in their 2nd year of development. The better team in the first half, beat by 5 after gifting Galway 6 points. Mayo v Donegal in 2013,now that was a team beat out the gate.

Again, playing Galway in Salthill, with this version of Derry will have much less a baring on this game than a potential injury crisis

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

[I ask do yous pay your manager and buy or not accordingly...]

My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

Keyser, in my experience a good auld moan and gripe is the common language of humanity. I've spent plenty of time abroad and worked with many nationalities and the average gaa fan or poster on this board is no different to the majority everywhere else (well west coast USA with their unwavering positivity might be the exception).
And as for your comment on posters probably not being members, I suspect the vast majority of us are pretty involved with gaa at some level. We are the diehards or we wouldn't be on here in the first place. Not that many people find discussions on the kickout strategies of Armagh all that interesting you know....

There certainly are diehards on here but a majority, definitely not.

There was a thread on ticket selling on here recently.

Not only was there just one poster, of the many who contributed to the thread, who had actually gone out to sell tickets, but there were quite a few who were complaining about being asked to buy a ticket by clubs coming to their door, and there were even a few calling for it to be banned.

Like what sort of GAA person would begrudge being ASKED to voluntarily contribute a few quid to the GAA, by a person who is giving up their time to travel around the country to raise funds for their local club. The people selling the tickets are diehards, people whinging about it on Gaaboard are blowhards.

So no I don't agree that a majority are GAA diehards, their diehardness extends to going to county matches and complaining their hole off on GAA board about stuff they probably know very little about.

And yes that would indeed include Armagh kickout strategies

I did the door ticket thing a number of years ago, don't know that makes me a better club member than others who make different contributions, coaching kids, the army of ladies do the teas and all that at matches, those on the gate, people who land up for ground clean-ups... anyone lands here trying to sell a £20 ticket which isn't that often, I ask do yous pay your manager and buy or not accordingly... 

I've asked on here before, does anyone know any club that pay an outside manager through club funds? I'm not aware of any.

Truthsayer, does your club pay an outside manager? Does the money come from club funds or a benefactor / sponsor?

[BTW does the club players association still exist?]

in contrast to being the grab all association the GAA constantly hobble themselves.

they banned alcohol and bookies sponsorship and advertising as at time when every soccer jersey had some on-line or Beer Brand bookie on them.

the banning of replay potentially cost millions every year  and lead to ridiculous penalty shoot outs.
they hold the championship at a stupid time of the year to facilitate club

BTW does the club players association still exist?

Disbanded after the split season came into play

Gianni - Google GAA Official Guide 2024 part 2. Download the pdf. Football rules from page 60 to 122.

Bare in mind as we've seen on here, the referee's handbook within the GAA Learning Portal has more important detail on some rules #minefield

I don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........

I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.

To what end? Who is benefiting from these profits?

Whoever is benefiting does not give a licence to do whatever you want, no matter how unscrupulous or adversely affecting our games, in order to make profits.

How is it unscrupulous and how is it affecting our games?

We've more games than historically on terrestrial and another batch on GAAGo. You can literally fill your boots with gaelic games at the weekends. Is this not what we want?? Double headers coming out our ears atm. TG4 show a load of games outside of the championship.

You can chose to buy a GAAGo season pass, individual games or none.

The season is now split so 95% of clubs and club players can have their county players back earlier, remember, it's not all about county

I don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........

I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.

To what end? Who is benefiting from these profits?

The uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters

So out of touch its not funny

Sorry, Itchy, but he's right. The anarchist/ anti-fa wing of SF has been found out by the right-thinking ones, and SF doesn't have a clue what to do. It's quite funny, really!

Are you pro-fa?

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

I'm not sure what your point is, or if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Injuries look like being the main factor atm if true

The GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past

Perfectly put.

The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

Considering there's far more options now to spend less (a few quid on GAAGo to stream a game if its not on terrestrial TV) and stay at home rather than the much heftier expense of travelling to the games , how exactly are the GAA  trying to clean as much money as possible when they're showing far more games now than in the past?

If you buy a qualifier batch ticket you're getting 3 games for the price of 2.

Also, take into considerarion 83% of this money goes back out the door. The more that comes in, the more goes out

Hi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.

Thanks

I add also these questions

Handpass
When a player makes a legal handpass (with one or two hands) he may do:
  A. After he makes a legal handpass, can he catch or just touch the ball on the fly, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
I imagine a scenario in which, to overcome an opponent, the player makes a legal hand pass, then goes around him, and finally catches the ball on the fly. But would it be legal?

  B. After legal handpass, can he touch the ball with any part of his body (are arms also considered hands?) except his hands, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
That is, imagine a player who makes a handpass and then hits the ball on the fly with a foot, a thigh or with the head or, much more spectacularly, with the chest, to pass the ball to a teammate or even to score a goal or a point. Would it be legal?

C. After a legal handpass, can the player touch the ball with any part of his body and then catch it with his hands?

Point with handpass
We know that to score a point is possible either by kicking or handpassing the ball over the crossbar. But with a handpass does the ball have to be hit with a closed fist or can it be hit with an open hand?
Now we have this:

A fist pass may be used to score a point, a Hand Pass may not.

But in the GAA Rules we have it is legal to score a point with a handpass in which the ball is hit with both a fist and an open hand.
Rule:
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.

Other question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand
But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?

Sorry for my long time but I hope you can help me understand all my doubts. We can't play without understanding all of this.
Thanks

Could anyone help me understand these doubts?

Thanks

Can we assume all the passes are legal!!

A. Yes as long as the ball bounces before collecting

B. Yes

C. Yes as long the hands don't touch the ball on the ground

Point with handpass : open or closed fist are both allowed

Yeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?

Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)

Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?

If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that?  even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?

Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo

Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.

Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.

What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?

Out protesting is up in arms, burning hostels , graffiti on walls and so on, are you protesting to get the judiciary to do it quicker or not have any asylum system in place or

Swapping 'arms' for 'keyboard (anonymous)' would be more accurate

I'm happy to put on a small bet the game will not throw at 5pm !

If the GAA want casual fans to go then it's a stupid time. I'll be there as always for a Roscommon game but I'll be watching something else before hand having a pint. Will 15k even attend the game ?

There was 30K at the game last year and it included the Dublin v Galway Leinster hurling game. There was a decent smattering of maroon around Croke Park that day.

Attendance won't be great. A round of Dublin club games Division 1-4 fixed for 6-30 that evening.

Poor form by Dublin CB.

They had a round of junior games on 3 mornings of Leinster championship games. With looking to have leagues wrapped before club championship no leeway to move games.

Sunday?

Donegal must not be a very Irish nationalist people (as shown in my link) Now you can understand why I would never support an ROI county in football. Maybe they can go play in Connaught.

https://ibb.co/xHtQMrC

You're always on point Norm. Must be the Fanad Tatums. Fred is a wrong'un