Many counties first objective should be to make the Super 8's and all of the glamour that comes with that. Such teams that have a decent chance of making it include Roscommon, Tipp, Kildare etc. Who are some of the dark horses that you think could go on a qualifier run and make the Super 8's? Counties like a Down, Meath, Clare, Fermanagh, Laois. I think the only guarantees for it at the moment are Galway, Dublin and Kerry so still a lot to play for. I think the qualifiers are going to be followed alot more this year particularly the round 4 qualifiers with what is on the line.
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 24, 2018, 05:31:54 PM
Many counties first objective should be to make the Super 8's and all of the glamour that comes with that. Such teams that have a decent chance of making it include Roscommon, Tipp, Kildare etc. Who are some of the dark horses that you think could go on a qualifier run and make the Super 8's? Counties like a Down, Meath, Clare, Fermanagh, Laois. I think the only guarantees for it at the moment are Galway, Dublin and Kerry so still a lot to play for. I think the qualifiers are going to be followed alot more this year particularly the round 4 qualifiers with what is on the line.
Galway are guaranteed fûck all.
Beat Sligo and they have to win 1 out of 2 games to make Super 8s which I think they would be more than able to do. Wouldnt be surprised if Roscommon do beat them though
Contenders
Monaghan, Donegal and probably still Tyrone from Ulster
Ros, Galway and possibly still Mayowestros from Connacht.
Kerry and winners of Cork/Tipp.
Dublin and possibly Kildare.
Outside that 10 we're talking wild cards and Qualifiers draws will have a lot to do with it.
Clare, losers Cork/Tipp, Cavan, Laois maybe.
Tipp, Kildare, Fermanagh.
It is hard to know what Mayo will turn up this year .
It'll be the biggest shock of the summer if Mayo aren't in the Super 8
Carlow are definitely dark horses, they are set up perfectly to beat Kildare on Sunday and if it is Laois they play in the semi final then they have the beating of them. In the League final they malfunctioned in front of goal but were the better team. They obviously won't beat Dublin in the Leinster final but will keep the scoreline respectable and will be one round of qualifiers from the super 8. Last year they were ahead of Monaghan with a few minutes to go and that performance gave a good indication of the level they were at.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 24, 2018, 08:36:13 PM
Carlow are definitely dark horses, they are set up perfectly to beat Kildare on Sunday and if it is Laois they play in the semi final then they have the beating of them. In the League final they malfunctioned in front of goal but were the better team. They obviously won't beat Dublin in the Leinster final but will keep the scoreline respectable and will be one round of qualifiers from the super 8. Last year they were ahead of Monaghan with a few minutes to go and that performance gave a good indication of the level they were at.
No they're not.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 24, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
It'll be the biggest shock of the summer if Mayo aren't in the Super 8
Could happen though. Sometimes the end comes quicker than you think. Remember, Kerry beating us in 2002 and Cork's defeat (hurling) in 1990 logically finished our 2 great teams then.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 24, 2018, 08:36:13 PM
Carlow are definitely dark horses, they are set up perfectly to beat Kildare on Sunday and if it is Laois they play in the semi final then they have the beating of them. In the League final they malfunctioned in front of goal but were the better team. They obviously won't beat Dublin in the Leinster final but will keep the scoreline respectable and will be one round of qualifiers from the super 8. Last year they were ahead of Monaghan with a few minutes to go and that performance gave a good indication of the level they were at.
If Carlow beat kildare I'll eat a horse.
Why would it be a surprise? Kildare are approaching a year without a competitive win, have long struggled against good defensive teams, have no freetaker and Cormac Reilly is the referee. Carlow are a team on the up with a fantastic opportunity to make their 1st Leinster final in years.
I reckon Mayo won't do it.
Carlow haven't improved that much yet, don't be silly.
Won't say anything about ourselves until after Sunday's game
Quote from: thejuice on May 24, 2018, 11:52:08 PM
Carlow haven't improved that much yet, don't be silly.
Their last performance against Louth was the performance of a solid second tier team. A similar margin of victory as was managed by the top division 2 teams and more than Meath managed.
Kildare are absolutely demoralised at the moment and I can think of every reason as to why we will lose to a well organised, fit and confident Carlow team.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:26:21 AM
Quote from: thejuice on May 24, 2018, 11:52:08 PM
Carlow haven't improved that much yet, don't be silly.
Their last performance against Louth was the performance of a solid second tier team. A similar margin of victory as was managed by the top division 2 teams and more than Meath managed.
Kildare are absolutely demoralised at the moment and I can think of every reason as to why we will lose to a well organised, fit and confident Carlow team.
Louth are barely a third division side.
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
The standard in D2 was mediocre at best this year
Kildare.
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Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:26:21 AM
Quote from: thejuice on May 24, 2018, 11:52:08 PM
Carlow haven't improved that much yet, don't be silly.
Their last performance against Louth was the performance of a solid second tier team. A similar margin of victory as was managed by the top division 2 teams and more than Meath managed.
Kildare are absolutely demoralised at the moment and I can think of every reason as to why we will lose to a well organised, fit and confident Carlow team.
Really? A certain section of support maybe but the players? Don't see that personally.
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
Its so hard to predict because a dark horse will be relying on the luck of the draw, any team who are likely to get to a provincial final like Kildare can't be considered a dark horse as they could end up playing a div 3 final in a R4 qualifier.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
There will be a huge amount of luck this year in determining who gets to the super 8. For example Roscommon will get to a Connacht final by pretty much playing nobody. Yet Galway played Mayo on the other side, both I would consider top 5 teams. Its possible Mayo could draw a tricky game against a Div 1 team like Tyrone, a Div 2 team like Cavan or away to Armagh. Tyrone could certainly knock them out. So as someone else said its very hard to predict.
Our 2 year record v Galway in Connacht finals is
1 good but unexpected win
1 dour draw
1 absolute hammering.
They won their Rd4 game we lost ours.
We both lost our Qtr Finals to "X factor teams" Galway tamely us by a cricket score after a good draw.
It's not certain we'll get a home Connacht Final and anyway we seem to do better in the Wind Tunnel.
A lot happens in 12 months. Galway have confidence from a good Division 1 campaign, a win over Mayo and a defensive structure that allows them to win when playing poorly, they only conceded more than 14 points once and that was against Dublin in Croke Park.
Roscommon came through a division with a lot of teams in transition yet still conceded more than 14 points 3 time and also a loss to Down. I would always back the better defensive team.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
Our 2 year record v Galway in Connacht finals is
1 good but unexpected win
1 dour draw
1 absolute hammering.
They won their Rd4 game we lost ours.
We both lost our Qtr Finals to "X factor teams" Galway tamely us by a cricket score after a good draw.
It's not certain we'll get a home Connacht Final and anyway we seem to do better in the Wind Tunnel.
Galway also have tradition. A good example is U21s. Despite winning 5 or so Connacht finals, Roscommon could not annex an U21 crown. Galway on the other hand scraped out of Connacht a few times, but then went on to win the All-Ireland. But I do think Galway will not get it easy against Sligo. Looking forward to that game.
To keep on track: Cork the dark horses this year.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 25, 2018, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play. Sean Andy might turn out to be a great player but the rest of that back line has some big flaws that can be exposed with good attacking play. Which is of course part of the reason Walsh relies on such a defensive system, in turn limiting what Galway can do at the opposite end. But teams that set up like Galway usually hit a wall when they need to respond to something that wasn't in the plan, like playing with an extra man in the league final or being blown away by Tipp, Ros or Kerry and having to attack more. And with all due respect, both your keepers are subpar too.
I'm just telling you the truth, which is more than the media and probably most Mayo or Roscommon supporters would tell you in the lead up to a match. Galway could win the CF but anyone who thinks they're particularly ahead of Roscommon haven't watched these Galway and Roscommon teams develop over multiple years.
Quote from: weareros on May 25, 2018, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
Our 2 year record v Galway in Connacht finals is
1 good but unexpected win
1 dour draw
1 absolute hammering.
They won their Rd4 game we lost ours.
We both lost our Qtr Finals to "X factor teams" Galway tamely us by a cricket score after a good draw.
It's not certain we'll get a home Connacht Final and anyway we seem to do better in the Wind Tunnel.
Galway also have tradition. A good example is U21s. Despite winning 5 or so Connacht finals, Roscommon could not annex an U21 crown. Galway on the other hand scraped out of Connacht a few times, but then went on to win the All-Ireland. But I do think Galway will not get it easy against Sligo. Looking forward to that game.
To keep on track: Cork the dark horses this year.
In fairness Galways last two U21s All Ireland winning teams only had to beat Cork x2,Kildare,Cavan no sides of the quality of Dublin 2012 or 2014 there and they scraped out of Connacht in 2013 because the best side they faced that year was Roscommon.
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
There is no doubt Galway can only dream about being as good as Roscommon.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
Roscommon had a forward line of C Murtagh,D Smith and E Smith. From what i recall It was really a Connacht final that Roscommon lost more than Galway won.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 25, 2018, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play. Sean Andy might turn out to be a great player but the rest of that back line has some big flaws that can be exposed with good attacking play. Which is of course part of the reason Walsh relies on such a defensive system, in turn limiting what Galway can do at the opposite end. But teams that set up like Galway usually hit a wall when they need to respond to something that wasn't in the plan, like playing with an extra man in the league final or being blown away by Tipp, Ros or Kerry and having to attack more. And with all due respect, both your keepers are subpar too.
I'm just telling you the truth, which is more than the media and probably most Mayo or Roscommon supporters would tell you in the lead up to a match. Galway could win the CF but anyone who thinks they're particularly ahead of Roscommon haven't watched these Galway and Roscommon teams develop over multiple years.
The forwards are fabulous.
Backs conceded lowest number of scores in D1
Considering where they were 5 years ago that is not bad.
If they do beat Sligo I would expect plenty of intinsity in the next match.
Back to the topic of the thread.
According to the odds the super 8 will be Dublin,Kerry,Galway,Monaghan,Donegal,Mayo,Tyrone,Roscommon but all of those sides may not reach it especially if drawn against each other on route.
What interests me more is the current odds for the dark horses to reach the super 8s as nearly every year you get at least one dark horse to reach the last 8.
Cork 6/5, Kildare 11/8,Meath 7/2 Clare 5/1 Fermanagh 7/1 Cavan 13/2 Down 6/1 Derry 8/1 Westmeath 10/1 Armagh 10/1 Sligo 10/1,Laois 11/1,Carlow 16/1,Longford 25/1 the rest are given no hope.
Cork and Kildare not really dark horses given those odds and its expected one of those two teams will likely reach the last 8.
Out of that list i'd pick 5 that are possible true dark horses this summer.
Sligo - under new management that might improve them in defence,good forwards and a lot of good young players in their side.
Longford - Best value odds and depends on the draw but they love the qualifiers and capable of producing a shock or two.
Westmeath - Could reach another Leinster final leaving them one win away from reaching the super 8s
Clare - Good manager with one of the best midfield pairings around and decent forwards have the experience of reaching the last 8 just 2 years ago.
Fermanagh - Great win last week won't win Ulster but you never know how the qualifiers will go for them and they also have the experience of reaching the last 8 recently.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Back to the topic of the thread.
According to the odds the super 8 will be Dublin,Kerry,Galway,Monaghan,Donegal,Mayo,Tyrone,Roscommon but all of those sides may not reach it especially if drawn against each other on route.
What interests me more is the current odds for the dark horses to reach the super 8s as nearly every year you get at least one dark horse to reach the last 8.
Cork 6/5, Kildare 11/8,Meath 7/2 Clare 5/1 Fermanagh 7/1 Cavan 13/2 Down 6/1 Derry 8/1 Westmeath 10/1 Armagh 10/1 Sligo 10/1,Laois 11/1,Carlow 16/1,Longford 25/1 the rest are given no hope.
Cork and Kildare not really dark horses given those odds and its expected one of those two teams will likely reach the last 8.
Out of that list i'd pick 5 that are possible true dark horses this summer.
Sligo - under new management that might improve them in defence,good forwards and a lot of good young players in their side.
Longford - Best value odds and depends on the draw but they love the qualifiers and capable of producing a shock or two.
Westmeath - Could reach another Leinster final leaving them one win away from reaching the super 8s
Clare - Good manager with one of the best midfield pairings around and decent forwards have the experience of reaching the last 8 just 2 years ago.
Fermanagh - Great win last week won't win Ulster but you never know how the qualifiers will go for them and they also have the experience of reaching the last 8 recently.
No tipp?
Well spotted. I somehow left Tipp out a good omen for them perhaps? They are 11/10 fall into the same bracket as Cork and Kildare.
Mayo are 10/11 pretty much same as cork and Tipp.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 25, 2018, 05:50:25 PM
Mayo are 10/11 pretty much same as cork and Tipp.
8/11 Mayo were last time i checked and bare in mind unlike Cork and Tipp they are one defeat away from getting out knocked of the championship.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
Roscommon had a forward line of C Murtagh,D Smith and E Smith. From what i recall It was really a Connacht final that Roscommon lost more than Galway won.
Donie has a rush of blood to the head and got the line despite being the best player on show. And Thomas Corcoran missed more frees that day than he probably had in his life combined up to that point.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
Roscommon had a forward line of C Murtagh,D Smith and E Smith. From what i recall It was really a Connacht final that Roscommon lost more than Galway won.
Is there a procedure there to allow for the Galway lads to transfer their 2013 winners medals for the Connacht and All Ireland U21 over to what should have been (by the sounds of it) the rightful winners?
Bit of a disgrace if there's not really.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 25, 2018, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
Roscommon had a forward line of C Murtagh,D Smith and E Smith. From what i recall It was really a Connacht final that Roscommon lost more than Galway won.
Is there a procedure there to allow for the Galway lads to transfer their 2013 winners medals for the Connacht and All Ireland U21 over to what should have been (by the sounds of it) the rightful winners?
Bit of a disgrace if there's not really.
You seem bothered.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 25, 2018, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
The sly digs are flying in today.
In 'fairness' that Galway team in 2013 had Comer, Shane Walsh and Ian Burke all in the same forward line.
Roscommon had a forward line of C Murtagh,D Smith and E Smith. From what i recall It was really a Connacht final that Roscommon lost more than Galway won.
Is there a procedure there to allow for the Galway lads to transfer their 2013 winners medals for the Connacht and All Ireland U21 over to what should have been (by the sounds of it) the rightful winners?
Bit of a disgrace if there's not really.
The 1925 All Ireland was worse
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 25, 2018, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play.
It's not a poor full-back line though. Sean Andy and Kerin are both very good players in their respective positions already. Kyne I'm less enthused about and he probably would not even be on the team were Silke around for the Summer but he's still a solid, aggressive if unspectacular defender.
The half-back line I would half agree with you as it's probably the weakest line on the team. It's the only line where we don't have any young players on. Not helped by McDaid fecking off to OZ and Wall heading to the US but Molloy at least might get a chance at some stage this Summer.
Anyway this is all off topic stuff.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 25, 2018, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 25, 2018, 05:50:25 PM
Mayo are 10/11 pretty much same as cork and Tipp.
8/11 Mayo were last time i checked and bare in mind unlike Cork and Tipp they are one defeat away from getting out knocked of the championship.
Been 10/11 since Galway beat them with PP and still are .
Dark horses lads!! Mayo not part of the conversation of this thread.
Here's my take on the Super 8's.
Starting point:
a) Teams that realistically expected to be in the Super 8 at beginning of championship: Dublin, Monaghan, Tyrone, Donegal, Cavan, Galway, Mayo, Roscommon, Kerry - 9 teams
b) Teams hoping to get to the Super 8, depending on good qualifier draws: Kildare, Cork, Tipperary - 3 teams
That's my Top 12...Cavan and Roscommon had belief after promotion, Donegal did not lose belief because of relegation (Kildare lost a bit). Clare miss out by a fraction.
Fermanagh
Remember when there would be threads on the board for every first round Leinster Championship match? Longford v. Meath 27 May. Nobody can even be bothered now speculating on which team wants to be subjected to the Goldman Sachs treatment in the second round.
Tipp certainly now as i can imagine their odds to reach the super 8s will be much longer now.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
Well now? For that you should head down to Carlow, say sorry, and be forced to ate scallions all Summer.
Quote from: weareros on May 27, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
Well now? For that you should head down to Carlow, say sorry, and be forced to ate scallions all Summer.
Yup I got that well wrong too. U had no idea kildare were in that bad of a mess.
Quote from: weareros on May 27, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
Well now? For that you should head down to Carlow, say sorry, and be forced to ate scallions all Summer.
I hope we get them in the Super 8.
Quote from: weareros on May 27, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
Well now? For that you should head down to Carlow, say sorry, and be forced to ate scallions all Summer.
For a guy who likes to think he is right about everything Syferus sure does get an awful lot wrong :D
Quote from: laoislad on May 27, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: weareros on May 27, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 25, 2018, 12:35:40 AM
True and Carlow hammered them in a manner similar to the good teams in division 2.
Carlow would lose to everyone else that was in D2 this year, as well as the two teams who are being relegated to it next year. You can't read anything into beating a team as bad as Louth.
It is very strange. And that's before he starts talking about hurling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvECtlJQ4dU
Well now? For that you should head down to Carlow, say sorry, and be forced to ate scallions all Summer.
For a guy who likes to think he is right about everything Syferus sure does get an awful lot wrong :D
I take no pleasure about being right about Carlow vs Kildare at least.
Syf was too busy winning a Referendum against all those white Irish heterosexual males.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
Syf was too busy winning a Referendum against all those white Irish heterosexual males.
Your utter contempt for any human decency is remarkable.
Quote from: Hardy on May 27, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
Remember when there would be threads on the board for every first round Leinster Championship match? Longford v. Meath 27 May. Nobody can even be bothered now speculating on which team wants to be subjected to the Goldman Sachs treatment in the second round.
The end is near for Gaelic football (at inter-county). RTE has given up on it and devotes all it's air time to Hurling (a minority sport).
Laois would be dark horses surely, the losers of the Leinster final go in to the round 4 qualifiers 2 weeks later, the winners of round 4 qualifiers go into supers 8s with provincial winners.
Laois/ Carlow will lose to Dubs in Leinster final but then are one game away from super 8s. Carlow are on a roll but Laois have beaten then this year in Div 4 final so its a 50/50 game really. Fair enough if Laois were to win against Carlow, they will almost certainly lose the Leinster final to the Dubs but that is what everyone expects so will be zero pressure on them even if they lose by 15 points or so. Then 2 week rest before they play one of the round 3 qualifier winners so could get the likes of Down, Armagh or a Clare for example (could also get a Tyrone or Mayo). Again not a given that laois would beat those teams but they would not be far off, and the incentive of a place in super 8s would be huge.
In the league final Carlow really dominated for large parts of the game and they uncharacteristically malfuntioned in front of goals, especially Broderick who missed a 13 yard free in front of goals. I'd have them as slight favourites against Laois and they would be a trickier opponent for anyone in the last 12. They are also more likely to make Dublin get out of 1st gear in the Leinster final.
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
A question on the Super 8's. Don't rugby league have copyright over the Super 8's name? Have the GAA come out and officially called it the Super 8's? It seems like the media christened it and it has just stuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_Super_8s
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:22:51 AM
A question on the Super 8's. Don't rugby league have copyright over the Super 8's name? Have the GAA come out and officially called it the Super 8's? It seems like the media christened it and it has just stuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_Super_8s
It's officially called the "All-Ireland Quarter-Final Group Stage".
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Media and the general public have been calling it "Super 8s".
Obviously lazily borrowed the term from that other stuff.
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
Going on what we have seen so far I don't think there would be a whole lot of difference result wise, Carlow might keep the Dubs scoring down as they play a blanket defence but it would not a good match to watch. Laois have a poor defence which spells trouble for them but they have a shrewd manager and their strength is in attack so if they pushed up on Dublins kickouts they could post a decent score (although you could say Wicklows 1-11 against Dublin was a decent score). If either side puts in a decent showing against the Dubs they would not be too down mentally for the next round, getting to Super 8s for either side is basically their All Irealnd seen as both came from Div 4.
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:22:51 AM
A question on the Super 8's. Don't rugby league have copyright over the Super 8's name? Have the GAA come out and officially called it the Super 8's? It seems like the media christened it and it has just stuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_Super_8s
anything to be said for the middle 8s and the less than super 8s
have a cup for each name after a former player like Brendan or Nicholas murphy .
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
back in the day when we had Oisin we'd have taken that, but that's 2018 Armagh stuffed, in the unlikely event of reaching that stage in a game.
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Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:22:51 AM
A question on the Super 8's. Don't rugby league have copyright over the Super 8's name? Have the GAA come out and officially called it the Super 8's? It seems like the media christened it and it has just stuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_Super_8s
anything to be said for the middle 8s and the less than super 8s
have a cup for each name after a former player like Brendan or Nicholas murphy .
How about
''The not so Gr8's'' and ''You sh1te and accept your Fa8 (fate)''
I prefer:
Super 8's
Trooper 8's
Looper 8's
8)
Maybe just the "final eight", "make the eight" or "last eight" like the Australians.
AFL do call it the AFL Final Series. GAA have never officially called it the "Super 8" etc
(http://www.droppunt.com/images/AFL-Final-Eight.jpg)
Ate up.
The Hateful 8.
Snow white and the 7 dwarfs would capture the power relations
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Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:22:51 AM
A question on the Super 8's. Don't rugby league have copyright over the Super 8's name? Have the GAA come out and officially called it the Super 8's? It seems like the media christened it and it has just stuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_League_Super_8s
anything to be said for the middle 8s and the less than super 8s
have a cup for each name after a former player like Brendan or Nicholas murphy .
How about ''The not so Gr8's'' and ''You sh1te and accept your Fa8 (fate)''
Also called Division 2 and Division 3.
I suppose
"the final 8" would be for Division 4.
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Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play.
It's not a poor full-back line though. Sean Andy and Kerin are both very good players in their respective positions already.
Yeah, he was probably the standout defender in D1 this year, excellent each and every game. The ignorance while acting the expert boggles the mind
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2018, 10:21:58 AM
Nailed on
Dublin Kerry
Probables
Galway Monaghan
Maybes
Roscommon Kildare Donegal Tipperary Tyrone Mayo Cavan
Dark Horses
Meath Cork Clare
Clare are my Dark horse tip.
I really don't get ranking a team we absolutely hammered away last year above us when we've a home CF final them this year, assuming either team slips up. Galway's recent record against Sligo is also far worse than ours is against Leitrim.
Despite what the media might have told people, Galway still have most of the same flaws they've had for the last five to ten years.
Which is what exactly?
A poor FB line and non-exsistent half-back play.
It's not a poor full-back line though. Sean Andy and Kerin are both very good players in their respective positions already.
Yeah, he was probably the standout defender in D1 this year, excellent each and every game. The ignorance while acting the expert boggles the mind
Kerin was a lucky boy to even last the 70 the last day. Plays too much on the edge. If Walsh had your faith in his FB line he would have two sweepers sitting in front of them most of the time.
It shouldn't need saying but with your predilection towards attacking the posters and not the point, it's easier to look like a good defender when you've lots of help.
The Juice, Itchy and Syferus all owe Kuwabatake Sajaro an apology for yere completely ignorant uninformed disregard for his positive prediction regarding Carlow last weekend 8)
Fair Play Kuwabatake
Although i always like to see Kildare do well, was delighted for Carlow and hope they get to a final, Well done.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 29, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
The Juice, Itchy and Syferus all owe Kuwabatake Sajaro an apology for yere completely ignorant uninformed disregard for his positive prediction regarding Carlow last weekend 8)
Fair Play Kuwabatake
Although i always like to see Kildare do well, was delighted for Carlow and hope they get to a final, Well done.
+1
Couldn't fathom how they'd be bad enough to lose to a team out of D4 who lost their best midfielder for the summer to boot.
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Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 29, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
The Juice, Itchy and Syferus all owe Kuwabatake Sajaro an apology for yere completely ignorant uninformed disregard for his positive prediction regarding Carlow last weekend 8)
Fair Play Kuwabatake
Although i always like to see Kildare do well, was delighted for Carlow and hope they get to a final, Well done.
+1
Couldn't fathom how they'd be bad enough to lose to a team out of D4 who lost their best midfielder for the summer to boot.
Hunger
https://m.soundcloud.com/kclr96fm/sport-brendan-hennessy-willie-quinlan-go-crazy
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
Tbf, the losing Leinster finalists will probably be the preferred draw in round 4 for whoever is left standing
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Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
Tbf, the losing Leinster finalists will probably be the preferred draw in round 4 for whoever is left standing
Has the other side effect of guaranteeing missing Dublin in the Super 8.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
Has the hurling changed also? The 65s looked too easy in the one that was on the telly. They should be restricted from crossing the 65m line, some of them got inside 60m by the time it was hit.
I never played a game of hurling in my life, but played football up to about 24. I only started pucking around when I was helping out the young lad's team a few years ago, basically learned the skills from scratch as I was helping teach the children!
Now if I had a choice of hit a 65m in hurling for €1m or hit a 45m in football for €1m, I'd defo choose the 65
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
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http://www.gaa.ie/sportteller-content/stories/1/1/da3cc421-de34-4bdf-acdf-8588f1e77048/index.html#Slide_5
How to they measure 33m? Is that the range of the D?
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 30, 2018, 07:55:23 PM
How to they measure 33m? Is that the range of the D?
Dead middle of the goals at the D is 33m. Doesn't say if frees can be kicked off the ground or out of the hand, so I presume out of the hand is ok.
Watch for actual kick being taken inside the line and ref/linesman correctly calling a miss on the kick. Seems all kickers sneak a bit when kicking frees out of the hand, but a few are worse/better than others (Gooch, for one, always "improved" the location of the free by the time he made contact with the ball).
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Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
Tbf, the losing Leinster finalists will probably be the preferred draw in round 4 for whoever is left standing
Has the other side effect of guaranteeing missing Dublin in the Super 8.
Did not know that, i thought this year there were no restrictions on who you draw? What about round 4 qualifier, are you kept apart from other provincial final losers or could you draw anyone?
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Quote from: slippery dodger on May 29, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
I'd love to see a somewhat competitive Leinster Final for 40/50 minutes at least. Laois have played an excellent 3 halves of football so far in championship and scored 4-13 the other day. Then you have Carlow who play a real percentage based game with very few risks taken. I can't decide who would get closer to the Dubs. I suppose for the story it would be nice to see Carlow in it. I would give whoever wins the semi-final a great chance of making the Super 8's
Tbf, the losing Leinster finalists will probably be the preferred draw in round 4 for whoever is left standing
Has the other side effect of guaranteeing missing Dublin in the Super 8.
Did not know that, i thought this year there were no restrictions on who you draw? What about round 4 qualifier, are you kept apart from other provincial final losers or could you draw anyone?
It's not a fully open draw. Round 1 unrestricted, round 2 round 1 winners play losing semi finalists so mayo Tyrone can't play for example. Round 3 winners of round 2 all play each other unrestricted, round 4 winners of round 3 play beaten finalists rematches from provincial games not allowed so for example if roscommon beat Galway then mayo could only play Ulster, Munster or Leinster beaten finalists. That's off the top of my head
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
http://www.gaa.ie/sportteller-content/stories/1/1/da3cc421-de34-4bdf-acdf-8588f1e77048/index.html#Slide_5
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Cheers!
The other change in that to what was originally advertised re the Super 8s is that the provincial champions were originally down to have their away game in Match 3. But that says it's Match 2.
Hopefully that's reliable, as it's definitely better. A couple of the Mayo lads have been banging on that there's no way Dublin will play any Super 8 game outside Croke Park, unless perhaps it's a dead rubber. Whereas this would mean a trip to Pairc Ui Chaoimh or Killarney for the Dubs in Match 2, when clearly everything will still be up in the air (or against whoever might beat the Munster runners up in Round 4 of the qualifiers).
It's officially the super 7's and Dublin now.
Headline on FM104 this evening "Bernard Brogan hopes to be back for the Super 8's".
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
http://www.gaa.ie/sportteller-content/stories/1/1/da3cc421-de34-4bdf-acdf-8588f1e77048/index.html#Slide_5
Cheers!
The other change in that to what was originally advertised re the Super 8s is that the provincial champions were originally down to have their away game in Match 3. But that says it's Match 2.
Hopefully that's reliable, as it's definitely better.
A couple Oneof the Mayo lads have been banging on that there's no way Dublin will play any Super 8 game outside Croke Park, unless perhaps it's a dead rubber. Whereas this would mean a trip to Pairc Ui Chaoimh or Killarney for the Dubs in Match 2, when clearly everything will still be up in the air (or against whoever might beat the Munster runners up in Round 4 of the qualifiers).
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Fixed that! I'm the only one that said that. Good to see it if it happens. Ye still will get two games at home! Unlike all the rest and ye still will have home games for the Semi final and final!
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 30, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
http://www.gaa.ie/sportteller-content/stories/1/1/da3cc421-de34-4bdf-acdf-8588f1e77048/index.html#Slide_5
Cheers!
The other change in that to what was originally advertised re the Super 8s is that the provincial champions were originally down to have their away game in Match 3. But that says it's Match 2.
Hopefully that's reliable, as it's definitely better. A couple Oneof the Mayo lads have been banging on that there's no way Dublin will play any Super 8 game outside Croke Park, unless perhaps it's a dead rubber. Whereas this would mean a trip to Pairc Ui Chaoimh or Killarney for the Dubs in Match 2, when clearly everything will still be up in the air (or against whoever might beat the Munster runners up in Round 4 of the qualifiers).
Fixed that! I'm the only one that said that. Good to see it if it happens. Ye still will get two games at home! Unlike all the rest and ye still will have home games for the Semi final and
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They're not there yet.
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 29, 2018, 04:50:59 AM
Also note any contest requiring a free-taking contest to decide a qualifier round winner will have the frees taken from 33 metres out.
Is that correct? Was initially announced as 45m. Pretty sure there was an O'Byrne Cup match that went to Frees and it was from 45m.
Maybe it has been changed.
http://www.gaa.ie/sportteller-content/stories/1/1/da3cc421-de34-4bdf-acdf-8588f1e77048/index.html#Slide_5
Cheers!
The other change in that to what was originally advertised re the Super 8s is that the provincial champions were originally down to have their away game in Match 3. But that says it's Match 2.
Hopefully that's reliable, as it's definitely better. A couple Oneof the Mayo lads have been banging on that there's no way Dublin will play any Super 8 game outside Croke Park, unless perhaps it's a dead rubber. Whereas this would mean a trip to Pairc Ui Chaoimh or Killarney for the Dubs in Match 2, when clearly everything will still be up in the air (or against whoever might beat the Munster runners up in Round 4 of the qualifiers).
Fixed that! I'm the only one that said that. Good to see it if it happens. Ye still will get two games at home! Unlike all the rest and ye still will have home games for the Semi final and final!
They're not there yet.
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I very much think Dublin are! (if you are talking about Dublin!)
Fermanagh only need to win one game in two now.
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Fermanagh only need to win one game in two now.
And theyll win neither
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Fermanagh only need to win one game in two now.
And theyll win neither
Even if Fermanagh lose the Ulster final. They could beat a lot of teams in the qualifers.
The qualifer draws will have a huge bearing on who makes the quarter finals.
If Tyrone, monaghan and mayo avoid each other in the R2 & R3 qualifers then the losing provincial finalists will all be trying to avoid those three. Also, every R3 winner will be looking to the leinster runner up (or Fermanagh) as the weakest team in R4 and therefore the one to get. R3 winners will certainly want to avoid Ros/Galway and Kerry/Cork.
The 4 beaten provincial finalists at this stage look most likely to be Carlow/Laois, Fermanagh, Cork & Roscommon. All of the teams coming through the qualifiers will be fancied to beat any of these sides with the possible exception of Roscommon depending on the draw. So a lot still depends on the draw and whether the division 1 teams who were already knocked out can avoid each other. If they all avoid each other they would still be expected to arrive in the super 8's.
So your expected last 8 will be Dublin, Donegal, Galway, Kerry
Kildare, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan.
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The 4 beaten provincial finalists at this stage look most likely to be Carlow/Laois, Fermanagh, Cork & Roscommon. All of the teams coming through the qualifiers will be fancied to beat any of these sides with the possible exception of Roscommon depending on the draw. So a lot still depends on the draw and whether the division 1 teams who were already knocked out can avoid each other. If they all avoid each other they would still be expected to arrive in the super 8's.
That's a massive IF.
Also, Do you really expect Kildare to make the quarter final?
I think both Cork and Roscommon (or Galway!!!!) will fancy their chances against anyone in the qualifers.
Round three is going to be the most important round in qualifiers. Highly likely that the bigger teams will meet then and round 4 will have a number of games that will be massively unbalanced.
Who'll make Round 3?
Meath/Tyrone, Mayowestros, Monaghan, Cavan,Tipp, Kildare/Derry........,
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Who'll make Round 3?
Meath/Tyrone, Mayowestros, Monaghan, Cavan,Tipp, Kildare/Derry........,
Just have to see how it pans out. Tyrone for example cant meet mayo in round 2 but they can play each other in round 3 and thats flipped for tyrone monaghan, they can play each other in round 2 but cant face each other in round 3.
No disrespect to any of these team but theres a chance the winners of London and Louth will play Leitrim in round 2 and the winners of wexford waterford play sligo in round 2. Winners of them two ties meet in round 3 and winners of that drawn against the losers of leinster (laois/carlow) and from them teams mentioned you have 1 of them in the super 8's. Theres no point before the draws predicting who'll make super 8's.
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 06, 2018, 04:47:19 PM
Round three is going to be the most important round in qualifiers. Highly likely that the bigger teams will meet then and round 4 will have a number of games that will be massively unbalanced.
The four provincial losers will be
Galway/Roscommon
Kerry/Cork
Dublin/Longford/Carlow/Laois
Fermanagh/Donegal/Down
If you assume the favourites win the 4 provincial finals, you are left with the following as the provincial losers on one side of the draw for Round 4.
Roscommon
Cork
Carlow/Laois
Fermanagh
The sides coming through the qualifiers would definitely be fancying their chances of getting to the Super 8.
The problem for the sides coming through the qualifier route is game fatigue/injuries/suspensions.
You can see it clear as day in the hurling groups that playing week after week takes a toll on players and I expect the same to happen with the Super 8.