China Coronavirus

[Angelo]

Let the numbers do the talking, directly from one of the "expert's" very own website, the infamous CDC.

The number of US deaths related to vaccines in 2021 in less than 3 months totals 2,240, an increase of 295 over the previous seven days, which is over twice the number of deaths that were recorded over the past decade, with a total of 994 deaths. This already is well over 70 times the average for the past decade.

Of the 2,249 deaths reported as of March 26, 28% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination, 19% occurred within 24 hours.

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=AGE&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&DIED=Yes

Not surprising Moderna and Pfizer/Biontech with over 1,000 vaccine related deaths each as they are the longest with Emergency Use Authorization.


Over the same period of time 7,726 serious injuries (911 permanent) out of 50,861 were reported to VAERS. An increase of 631 serious injuries over the previous week. .

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=AGE&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&SERIOUS=ON


VAERS traditionally report on just 1% injuries and deaths, with the COVID vaccine I would expect reporting to be a good percentage higher but still not all cases reported.

Unfortunately after reading the above reports cognitive dissonance will set in for the majority and the deaths and injuries will continue to mount up.

Thanks for that link Seamus. Very interesting figures. They prove that taking the vaccine is thousands of times safer than getting covid-19. Glad to see you've come round to the safety and efficacy of the vaccine.

So you are admitting that the COVID-19 injections causes death and injury. Remember with VAERS only a small percentage is reported. Multiply those deaths and severe injuries at least by a factor of 20. In three months that would amount to 40k plus deaths in the US alone. Then take the false reporting of "COVID-19" deaths into account, even those with gunshot wounds are classified as "COVID -19" deaths. It adds to the hospital coffers as do those with comorbidities. .

https://www.skyhinews.com/news/coroner-state-included-a-murder-suicide-in-grands-covid-deaths/

There are several such reports worldwide, even a person shot twice in the head was classified as a "COVID-19" death.

Remember all those who died by "COVID-19" injection would still be alive today if they had made a better decision.

More people taking a vaccine means there will be more adverse reactions to the vaccine. That's just basic maths.

Just like if there are significantly more people driving cars you are likely to see an increase in car accidents

The absolute stupidity of that post. Apparently more adverse reactions is a good thing then?

[Milltown Row2]

The absurdity of your logic is not to take it. You are thick lad

[lenny]

Do vaccines lower transmission? YES, absolutely.

How much? By a lot—75% to 94% in recent studies.

Do vaccines completely eliminate any and all transmission? NO.

That is why we still need to mask after vaccinating until cases are very low or zero. #COVID19

[sid waddell]

Do vaccines lower transmission? YES, absolutely.

How much? By a lot—75% to 94% in recent studies.

Do vaccines completely eliminate any and all transmission? NO.

That is why we still need to mask after vaccinating until cases are very low or zero. #COVID19

It's all a conspiracy by Big Mask

And we all know they're in cahoots with Big Vaccine and Big Chocolate

[Itchy]

0.1% of cases passed on outdoors. Something that's been known for a long time yet nphet (who it seems run the country without any hindrance) have outdoors sports and recreation banned. This is why they should be them off prime time tv and instead reporting to government.

[Rossfan]

Decisions are made by Government.

[Evil Genius]

Very good news from the US this week, with a study showing the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines not only stop the development of symptoms, but they are 90% effective at stopping people getting infected at all. This is brilliant in terms of stopping all spreading of the disease.

No, thast can't be true.

After all, didn't our resident immunologist tell us all this just the other day?

You also seem to ignore the fact that evidence says vaccines do not stop contraction and transmission of Covid. They merely serve to reduce the level of severity of the virus on you.

Of course I should have known that these people were talking nonsense when they said this as far back as February:
"The Pfizer vaccine appears to slow the spread of coronavirus as well as preventing people getting seriously ill, a study at a hospital has found.

The findings support similar research by Public Health England and an Oxford-AstraZeneca study, examining whether vaccines can stop the virus spreading.

The researchers said the results were a 'genuine good news story' but warned that other precautionary measures were still required to combat the virus."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56211755

"Appears to" is extremely definitive alright.

No, your "vaccines do not stop contraction and transmission of Covid" was definitive*.

And wrong.

Take eg the UK (population 68m) and France (pop. 65m).

Last Thursday France recorded just over 50k new Covid cases, while the UK had just under 5k. Since then, the UK figure has fallen consistently to just 2,762 today (05 April), making a 33% fall over the last 7 days, while France recorded 67k cases on 04 April. I can't find exactly corresponding data, but France's transmission rate had risen by over 30% over 14 days, with the rise appearing to be exponential:
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Coronavirus-Daily-updates-on-the-situation-in-France
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Of course there are many reasons to explain this disparity, but the differing rates of vaccination must be the major factor:
France - 1st jab: 9.3m, 2nd jab: 3.1m;
UK - 1st jab: 31.6m, 2nd jab: 5.4m.


* There can be no gradations of "definitive" btw, something either is or it isn't.

[Milltown Row2]

Angelo will give us a true picture of this, and smurphy will tell us it's seasonal and France are still in their winter period

[Itchy]

Decisions are made by Government.

You dont understand how this works. If you delegate to the most conservative, blinkered, one topic advisor group to attend daily the most watched news in the country and give their single  topic narrow opinion then this makes it pretty much impossible for you as a leader to overrule. But you are right, the buck stops with government and in particular Irelands worst ever Taoiseach. And BTW the job of NPHET is to give that single topic narrow view. The job of government is to weigh it up against all the other views that are out there. The later the government are failing miserably to do.

[Hound]

0.1% of cases passed on outdoors. Something that's been known for a long time yet nphet (who it seems run the country without any hindrance) have outdoors sports and recreation banned. This is why they should be them off prime time tv and instead reporting to government.

Where are you getting that 0.1% figure from itchy?

Tomas Ryan, who is in favour of a zero Covid policy, said on Dunphy's podcast that it makes absolutely no sense that children are back in school indoors, but that outdoor Easter camps are banned.

I didn't think the % was that low though. I thought that the British variant was more capable of transmission outdoors than the pre-Christmas one

[Itchy]

0.1% of cases passed on outdoors. Something that's been known for a long time yet nphet (who it seems run the country without any hindrance) have outdoors sports and recreation banned. This is why they should be them off prime time tv and instead reporting to government.

Where are you getting that 0.1% figure from itchy?

Tomas Ryan, who is in favour of a zero Covid policy, said on Dunphy's podcast that it makes absolutely no sense that children are back in school indoors, but that outdoor Easter camps are banned.

I didn't think the % was that low though. I thought that the British variant was more capable of transmission outdoors than the pre-Christmas one

Reported widely in the media past few days...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/outdoor-transmission-accounts-for-0-1-of-state-s-covid-19-cases-1.4529036
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/calls-to-allow-open-air-dining-and-sports-after-figures-show-just-01pc-of-covid-cases-linked-to-outdoor-transmission-40278494.html

By all accounts that data has been around a lot longer than that too from the US and other countries.

[Wildweasel74]

How many men here been vaccinated already? Got the first jab a month ago. Sore arm next day, but like the normal flu jab I get each Yr. Don't understand the point of view of anti vacs, as we all got the triple booster when younger for tetanus, polio, etc. If you sick u at the doctors looking antibiotics / medical steroids to improve your health. How's getting this injection 💉 any different.

[Angelo]

How many men here been vaccinated already? Got the first jab a month ago. Sore arm next day, but like the normal flu jab I get each Yr. Don't understand the point of view of anti vacs, as we all got the triple booster when younger for tetanus, polio, etc. If you sick u at the doctors looking antibiotics / medical steroids to improve your health. How's getting this injection 💉 any different.

Being worried about a novel vaccine created in a very short time space is not anti-vax.

The AZ vaccine has been associated with blood clotting and deaths all over Europe. People are right to be cautious about it and that does not make them anti-vax.

For u40s the vaccine is arguably as much a danger as Covid.

[Taylor]

How many men here been vaccinated already? Got the first jab a month ago. Sore arm next day, but like the normal flu jab I get each Yr. Don't understand the point of view of anti vacs, as we all got the triple booster when younger for tetanus, polio, etc. If you sick u at the doctors looking antibiotics / medical steroids to improve your health. How's getting this injection 💉 any different.

Got the jab yesterday.
Like you weasel a bit of a sore arm today but nothing else.

I can assure you if there was a vaccine passport introduced for foreign travel or restaurants etc all of these people saying they wouldnt get it would be in the queue looking it.

Lets see how strong their 'beliefs' are then

[GetOverTheBar]

No vaccine for me....too young, whilst you elderly prance around enjoying life and breaking the rules.

Terrible!

Was going to post as is....maybe better to point out I'm joking here.