The Official UFC Thread

[The Iceman]

Cruz looked fantastic. Fair play to him after the setbacks.

Would McGregor sell out Croker?! I'd be pretty shocked.

UFC's biggest problem is that Dana is a populist mouthy p***k. He holds a borderline monopoly on big TV deals and that means a lot. UFV is a promotion with contracted fighters. The potential for conflicts of interest is enormous. The sooner MMA moves to a boxing like situation where promoters are distinct from fighters the better.

I don't see MMA moving to that model, especially with the players involved at the promotion level. As more and more elite athletes enter the sport you'll see more promotions popping up and existing promotions live Bellator continuing to succeed in the wake of the UFC's success. As much as I love boxing I don't want MMA to move to that model - too much room for corruption.

Croker wouldn't be set up for the full capacity for a fight - the upper tiers would never be opened for such a rowdy crowd but I would say he could attract the bottom stands and field level capacity at the right ticket price and with the right supporting card. All the fighters want to fight there, the UFC would have no bother bringing in a great card. UFC is all about the coin - they have 9000 capacity in the casino's in Vegas. 40,000 - 50,000 in Croke Park - that's some pay day for them.

[The Iceman]

I see Bushmill's owm Norman Parke is out of his scheduled fight with Diego Sanchez in Mexico next month with a torn MCL.
Conor McGregor has offered kindly to move up a weight class and take the fight and of course the pay day. I wonder will the UFC give it to him?

[muppet]

http://www.newstalk.com/Fine-Gael-Senator-seeks-to-ban-vile-UFC-from-coming-to-Dublin

10:18 Wednesday 14 January 2015
A Fine Gael Senator is seeking to ban the Ultimate Fighting Championship from coming to Dublin, the Herald reports.

Senator Catherine Noone described MMA as a "vile so-called sport".

Ms Noone stated: "I have written to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport seeking his views on allowing this vile so-called sport to be given a platform and an audience here and fully believe that this event should not be licensed." She also pointed out that New York state has banned the sport.

"I don't believe we should be serving as a platform on which to publicise it both nationally and internationally, and therefore I don't think we should be hosting this event here," she said.

A spokesperson for the Transport, Tourism and Sport told the paper: "The Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport has no role in relation to the licensing of such events. Mixed Martial Arts is not recognised by the Irish Sports Council and consequently does not receive any government funding through the Irish Sports Council."

They said that the matter was an issue for Dublin City Council.

The comments come ahead of McGregor's fight in Boston this weekend. The Dubliner has been guaranteed a world title shot if he beats Dennis Siver at UFC Fight Night 59. "This fight in Boston, if [McGregor] wins, he's going to fight for the title," UFC President Dana White said.

A win for McGregor could potentially see a title fight in Dublin, possibly in Croke Park, something the Irish MMA star was hoping would happen.


Personally I find the Seanad far more 'vile' than UFC.

[gallsman]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

[The Iceman]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

[johnneycool]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

Happened to stumble upon her being interviewed about this by Ryan Tubridy on 2FM and she admitted she couldn't be sure she's ever seen a MMA fight, she saw something one time on TV and it was 'barbaric'.
She was basing her assumptions on an article some very good friend of a journalist who'd written about their experiences at a fight in Vegas or somewhere.

A total numpty.

[gallsman]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

I get that absolutely, but his spouting nonsense about being a global star annoys me.

[muppet]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.

[tiempo]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

[The Iceman]

Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.

He's a Bushmills man - I think he's happy with the name ha good Hun.
He is a decent fella - strong Judo and grappling, great coach behind him who I know personally. He just doesn't get much exposure for two reasons I believe:
His accent is atrocious
He comes across a bit stupid in interviews (which he isn't but he sounds like he is).....

[The Iceman]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

[JoG2]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.

[The Iceman]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.

I love the sport. It's pure combat. I enjoy standup wars and I enjoy the technical grappling matches on the ground. Aldo is the champ for a reason. I'm not sure McGregor has what it takes to beat him but I don't know if he cares. If he get's his title shot and can put 50,000 bums on seats in Croke Park and get his slice of the pie he'll be a rich man.
There are some great old fights on youtube. Lookup submission of the year and the like and see what you think. There are also a load of great clubs and shows all over Ireland.

[tiempo]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.

[Syferus]

Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.

Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.

Crazy generalisation. The Mega Drive was a 16-bit console.