NFL Division 1 2024

[seafoid]

Conor O'Neill going to be out for a while as well with injury picked up vs Kerry.
Add to Oisin O'Neill, Shields and Ciaran O'Hanlon all out longer term as well and it's seriously frustrating!

Especially with the all Ireland starting so soon after

[illdecide]

Any word/update from Armagh on 5 starters from last year who didnt play v Kerry?

Nugent / Grugan / Crealey / Sheridan / Morgan

Crealy is longer term may not see much of him all year. Not heard about the others tbh.

Not too sure about that, don't think he's too far off a return

I don't believe Morgan has played for Armagh this year, if he's a hamstring it must be a bad one to keep him out this length of time. R Grugan hasn't been great this year and maybe he'd something wearing on him as he's usally consistantly good. If Oisin O'Neill has achilles tendon trouble he'll be out for some time as it's a difficult one to come back from. Haven't heard a thing about O'Hanlon or shields TBH.

[Ringfort]

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

I would play league from beginning of season to end of season like in soccer. Something like 14 games home and away or maybe a three division  league of 11 teams playing each other once. Put the championship on in between on designated weekends like the FA Cup. Straight knockout championship. End of the season is AI final a couple of weeks after leagues end.

The league is good but could be better. Too many teams with different agendas. Eg Kerry not near ready for start of league. End of league sees teams start to turn eye to championship if their league position allows.

Play it the whole season alongside championship so teams can't be going at different paces depending on their province/championship plan. It should be a great competition not tainted  by shadow boxing. And keep the fckn championship do or die, white heat, all on the line. Less of this complicated nonsense where they are trying to crowbar more games in that often are not 'championship ' in flavour at all.

[From the Bunker]

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

I would play league from beginning of season to end of season like in soccer. Something like 14 games home and away or maybe a three division  league of 11 teams playing each other once. Put the championship on in between on designated weekends like the FA Cup. Straight knockout championship. End of the season is AI final a couple of weeks after leagues end.

The league is good but could be better. Too many teams with different agendas. Eg Kerry not near ready for start of league. End of league sees teams start to turn eye to championship if their league position allows.

Play it the whole season alongside championship so teams can't be going at different paces depending on their province/championship plan. It should be a great competition not tainted  by shadow boxing. And keep the fckn championship do or die, white heat, all on the line. Less of this complicated nonsense where they are trying to crowbar more games in that often are not 'championship ' in flavour at all.

Jez, these are AMATEURS who also give time to their club. 14 League games are you having a laugh?

[Ringfort]

They are training flat out from October to end of summer and living in gyms. It's bullsht. Lads want games not training. 14 league games plus  max 5 if you get to AI final is hardly punishment over the course of a season.

Intercounty players only go back to their clubs for county championship by and large. That should be straight knockout too by the way. With an extended league campaign for the so called ordinary club player while their county panel colleague is away on the national stage.

[blanketattack]

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

I would play league from beginning of season to end of season like in soccer. Something like 14 games home and away or maybe a three division  league of 11 teams playing each other once. Put the championship on in between on designated weekends like the FA Cup. Straight knockout championship. End of the season is AI final a couple of weeks after leagues end.

The league is good but could be better. Too many teams with different agendas. Eg Kerry not near ready for start of league. End of league sees teams start to turn eye to championship if their league position allows.

Play it the whole season alongside championship so teams can't be going at different paces depending on their province/championship plan. It should be a great competition not tainted  by shadow boxing. And keep the fckn championship do or die, white heat, all on the line. Less of this complicated nonsense where they are trying to crowbar more games in that often are not 'championship ' in flavour at all.

Jez, these are AMATEURS who also give time to their club. 14 League games are you having a laugh?

Irish basketball players are amateurs and train just as often as Gaelic Footballers and they have a 26 game league season, which doesn't include play-off games or Cup games.
The AIL rugby is 18 games (before play-offs and cups), The LOI 1st Division which is mainly amateur is 36 games. Again both train just as much as gaelic football teams.
14 league games doesn't seem too far fetched for Gaelic Footballers.

[Armagh18]

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

I would play league from beginning of season to end of season like in soccer. Something like 14 games home and away or maybe a three division  league of 11 teams playing each other once. Put the championship on in between on designated weekends like the FA Cup. Straight knockout championship. End of the season is AI final a couple of weeks after leagues end.

The league is good but could be better. Too many teams with different agendas. Eg Kerry not near ready for start of league. End of league sees teams start to turn eye to championship if their league position allows.

Play it the whole season alongside championship so teams can't be going at different paces depending on their province/championship plan. It should be a great competition not tainted  by shadow boxing. And keep the fckn championship do or die, white heat, all on the line. Less of this complicated nonsense where they are trying to crowbar more games in that often are not 'championship ' in flavour at all.

Jez, these are AMATEURS who also give time to their club. 14 League games are you having a laugh?

Irish basketball players are amateurs and train just as often as Gaelic Footballers and they have a 26 game league season, which doesn't include play-off games or Cup games.
The AIL rugby is 18 games (before play-offs and cups), The LOI 1st Division which is mainly amateur is 36 games. Again both train just as much as gaelic football teams.
14 league games doesn't seem too far fetched for Gaelic Footballers.

It's a big ask to get 14 league games plus x amount of championship games played, then go back to play club football. That's not counting college football as well.

Love the idea in theory but not sure if it works!

[Rossfan]

14  County games plus Club and maybe Colleges.
Not counting pre season tourneys a County team will have minimum 11 games this year and a possible max of 19 games.

[blanketattack]

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

I would play league from beginning of season to end of season like in soccer. Something like 14 games home and away or maybe a three division  league of 11 teams playing each other once. Put the championship on in between on designated weekends like the FA Cup. Straight knockout championship. End of the season is AI final a couple of weeks after leagues end.

The league is good but could be better. Too many teams with different agendas. Eg Kerry not near ready for start of league. End of league sees teams start to turn eye to championship if their league position allows.

Play it the whole season alongside championship so teams can't be going at different paces depending on their province/championship plan. It should be a great competition not tainted  by shadow boxing. And keep the fckn championship do or die, white heat, all on the line. Less of this complicated nonsense where they are trying to crowbar more games in that often are not 'championship ' in flavour at all.

Jez, these are AMATEURS who also give time to their club. 14 League games are you having a laugh?

Irish basketball players are amateurs and train just as often as Gaelic Footballers and they have a 26 game league season, which doesn't include play-off games or Cup games.
The AIL rugby is 18 games (before play-offs and cups), The LOI 1st Division which is mainly amateur is 36 games. Again both train just as much as gaelic football teams.
14 league games doesn't seem too far fetched for Gaelic Footballers.

It's a big ask to get 14 league games plus x amount of championship games played, then go back to play club football. That's not counting college football as well.

Love the idea in theory but not sure if it works!

Will never happen, but the excuse that it's too much for a poor amateur doesn't hold when you consider an amateur LOI 1st Div player plays 40+ games a season, which is far more than a Gaelic Football player even throwing in Club and College games.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/02/ciaran-murphy-dublin-have-the-players-to-destroy-teams-but-their-winning-aura-has-dissipated-into-thin-air/
After the defeat by Donegal in 2014, Dublin spent a long hard winter of introspection, and came out in 2015 with an entirely new way of playing. They played the most thrilling football of the century in 2013 and 2014, but they vowed never to concede 3-14 in a championship game again, as they did to Donegal that day.

The change brought them success on a scale never before seen in the GAA – six All-Ireland championships in a row. Weaning themselves off the methods that brought that level of success is necessarily difficult.
Football seemed stuck, but now more and more teams are embracing a less risk-averse version of the game, and it's Dublin who are stuck. Their ideology can be pretty easily summed up – they don't kick the ball out long to Brian Fenton at midfield, and they don't kick the ball long into Con O'Callaghan at full forward.


Lumping it long is not so much a tactic from before this Dublin team, as it is something from before the 1990s, but within this rather simplified version is a fair degree of truth. The Dublin players are now so conditioned to hold on to the ball that the idea of rolling the dice and kicking contestable balls for the opportunity to win big match-defining moments appears to be anathema to them.

But watching Mayo and Armagh mix up their games so thrillingly this spring, watching Galway and Kerry rolling the dice and being happy to win 60 per cent of their own kick-outs if it moves them into the right area of the field, the thought occurs that Dublin have stood still. And if they don't experiment in Division Two, there's hardly any chance we'll see change come championship.

[seafoid]

Tyrone in crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZxysKL-oAE

[Armagh18]

Tyrone in crisis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZxysKL-oAE

Be wary of them hoors. They were in crisis this time 2 years ago shipping 6 goals against Kerry!!

[seafoid]

Armagh

"Can't close out  games.
Can't beat teams above their level.
Collective defending is shite"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZxysKL-oAE&t=1530s

[illdecide]

Armagh 1-15 Donegal 1-13
Galway 1-16 Monaghan 2-11
Tyrone 2-14 Kerry 2-13
Roscommon 0-15 Mayo 2-13

[Armagh18]

Armagh 1-15 Donegal 1-13
Galway 1-16 Monaghan 2-11
Tyrone 2-14 Kerry 2-13
Roscommon 0-15 Mayo 2-13

Surely not ?