NFL Division 1 2024

Started by Blowitupref, January 16, 2023, 08:23:27 PM

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Blowitupref

Home form has proved a difference in Division 1 thus far

16 games
Homes wins 11
Away wins 2
Draws 3
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

seafoid

Jack O'Connor has never done the follow on. The motivation required is different.
And Kerry are nothing special in the big picture. They learnt the hard way via ritual humiliations by the Dubs.
It's amazing really that Clifford only has 1 all Ireland.

J70

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 28, 2023, 05:32:46 PM
Home form has proved a difference in Division 1 thus far

16 games
Homes wins 11
Away wins 2
Draws 3

Last two times we were relegated (2013 and 2018), we had three home and four away games.

Likely same result this time out.

It would be interesting to see how often teams with four home games are relegated.

I'd imagine it could be the deciding factor between teams of a similar standard.

armaghniac

Quote from: J70 on February 28, 2023, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 28, 2023, 05:32:46 PM
Home form has proved a difference in Division 1 thus far

16 games
Homes wins 11
Away wins 2
Draws 3

Last two times we were relegated (2013 and 2018), we had three home and four away games.

Likely same result this time out.

It would be interesting to see how often teams with four home games are relegated.

I'd imagine it could be the deciding factor between teams of a similar standard.

The home/away thing is important, and Donegal are hard to beat at home. But it also makes a difference if you meet a a team early on or later. Donegal got one over on Kerry, that might not be possible now, but they might meet a disinterested Connacht team in the late round and get something out of that, they likely couldn't have beaten the Rossies in the first couple of rounds.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

balladmaker

McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: balladmaker on February 28, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

Just play the last round at neutral venues.

rodney trotter

Quote from: balladmaker on February 28, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

If it was a 14 game League ,what type of Championship would it be? Teams are guaranteed to play 5 games in the Championship this year with the new system. Split season won't be changed.

The AFl is played as home and away 22 games March to September. But that is their focus. Gaa players have club games too.




Never beat the deeler

Quote from: rodney trotter on February 28, 2023, 09:26:11 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on February 28, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
McGeeney made an interesting suggestion a few weeks ago ref. the league being a great competition, said he'd love to see it in a home and away format with 14 games.  That would be some league in fairness, though the calendar couldn't accommodate it as it currently stands.

If it was a 14 game League ,what type of Championship would it be? Teams are guaranteed to play 5 games in the Championship this year with the new system. Split season won't be changed.

The AFl is played as home and away 22 games March to September. But that is their focus. Gaa players have club games too.

Would love to see an AFL type system with a league and then finals. Every game would mean so much more.
The problem is the AFL has equalisation which (in theory anyways) allows for every team making the finals when it reaches their 'turn' on the cycle. That wouldn't be possible in GAA so you would have counties that never get there.
The teams that are up/down between divisions would spend a lot of years finishing bottom half of the division and no finals games.

So we need to take the pros (more games at similar level, meaningful games leading into finals) and try and plan out the cons (mismatch / equalisation / min number of games)
Hasta la victoria siempre

Maroon Manc

Most of the Galway posters on here are naturally a bit pessimistic or as I'd like to call it realism; Under a normal championship I'd very worried with Walsh missing so much of the league and with Comer injured too (always takes him a good few games to get 100% fit) but this year is different but Galway (any other County) could win only 1 of their first 4 championship games this summer and find themselves in a preliminary quarter final.

If Galway had Shane Walsh since the start of the league its not unrealistic to think they'd have 4 wins on the board given the closeness of the loss and those 2 draws, no doubt they'd have lots of smoke blown up their hole from the media so if Galway can avoid relegation without Walsh & Comer there'll be positives to take from it.

Armagh18

Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 01, 2023, 10:47:03 AM
Most of the Galway posters on here are naturally a bit pessimistic or as I'd like to call it realism; Under a normal championship I'd very worried with Walsh missing so much of the league and with Comer injured too (always takes him a good few games to get 100% fit) but this year is different but Galway (any other County) could win only 1 of their first 4 championship games this summer and find themselves in a preliminary quarter final.

If Galway had Shane Walsh since the start of the league its not unrealistic to think they'd have 4 wins on the board given the closeness of the loss and those 2 draws, no doubt they'd have lots of smoke blown up their hole from the media so if Galway can avoid relegation without Walsh & Comer there'll be positives to take from it.
Is there any danger of either of the 2 lads being back when ye come to Armagh? Massive boost to us if not.

seafoid

Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 01, 2023, 10:47:03 AM
Most of the Galway posters on here are naturally a bit pessimistic or as I'd like to call it realism; Under a normal championship I'd very worried with Walsh missing so much of the league and with Comer injured too (always takes him a good few games to get 100% fit) but this year is different but Galway (any other County) could win only 1 of their first 4 championship games this summer and find themselves in a preliminary quarter final.

If Galway had Shane Walsh since the start of the league its not unrealistic to think they'd have 4 wins on the board given the closeness of the loss and those 2 draws, no doubt they'd have lots of smoke blown up their hole from the media so if Galway can avoid relegation without Walsh & Comer there'll be positives to take from it.
Considering the missing players form to date has been reasonable

5times5times

Any word/update from Armagh on 5 starters from last year who didnt play v Kerry?

Nugent / Grugan / Crealey / Sheridan / Morgan

Armagh18

Quote from: 5times5times on March 01, 2023, 12:34:30 PM
Any word/update from Armagh on 5 starters from last year who didnt play v Kerry?

Nugent / Grugan / Crealey / Sheridan / Morgan
Crealy is longer term may not see much of him all year. Not heard about the others tbh.

naka

Quote from: 5times5times on March 01, 2023, 12:34:30 PM
Any word/update from Armagh on 5 starters from last year who didnt play v Kerry?

Nugent / Grugan / Crealey / Sheridan / Morgan
Morgan and grugan have hamstring injuries
Not sure about other two

Armagh18

Conor O'Neill going to be out for a while as well with injury picked up vs Kerry.
Add to Oisin O'Neill, Shields and Ciaran O'Hanlon all out longer term as well and it's seriously frustrating!