NFL Division 1 2024

Started by Blowitupref, January 16, 2023, 08:23:27 PM

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Blowitupref

Real eye catching to see Roscommon top of the table with three games played and three wins.  New management getting a tune out of them their 2021 U20s that reached the All Ireland final (Conor Carroll,Colin Walsh,Keith Doyle,Robbie Dolan,Daire Cregg,Ben O'Carroll) are all making impact at senior level now.

Galway back on track with that home win against Tyrone, Peter Cooke,Eoghan Kelly,Ian Burke all good additions to the panel this year and good underage player in Cathal Sweeney shone this afternoon.

Monaghan with impressive win and scoring total (boosted by the return of Jack McCarron) and will fancy their chances to avoid the drop once more.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

tyrone08

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 19, 2023, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 19, 2023, 03:14:54 PM
It was a penalty, thought he got the ball at the start but replay showed zero contact with the ball. Roscommon lying down in an odd tackle but Armagh simply have not been taught to tackle properly. They no chance of a all-Ireland with that defence.

They make is so easy for every ref to give frees against them every time they go into the tackle. So lazy, such bad body positions, pretty much always focus the tackle on the player as opposed to the ball.

The fact that the entire team have such poor technique is a damming indictment of management.

I am always amazed at how year after year their technique is do poor. They must be taught man first, ball second. If they could sort this simple thing out they could push on.

Throw ball

Never mind referees , players or bad decisions that pitch in Dr Hyde Park is terrible. Players slipping everywhere. Someone could get badly injured.

general_lee

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 19, 2023, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 19, 2023, 03:14:54 PM
It was a penalty, thought he got the ball at the start but replay showed zero contact with the ball. Roscommon lying down in an odd tackle but Armagh simply have not been taught to tackle properly. They no chance of a all-Ireland with that defence.

They make is so easy for every ref to give frees against them every time they go into the tackle. So lazy, such bad body positions, pretty much always focus the tackle on the player as opposed to the ball.

The fact that the entire team have such poor technique is a damming indictment of management.
Armagh's defence is actually shocking at times, the tackling borders on ridiculous (personally I blame McKeever). I think Armagh will do well to stay in this division, defensively there are frailties and the management seem determined not to use the panel - some starting players seem undroppable.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Throw ball on February 19, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
Never mind referees , players or bad decisions that pitch in Dr Hyde Park is terrible. Players slipping everywhere. Someone could get badly injured.

Wet pitches are slippery, main issue was probably players wearing the wrong studs.  Agree with others Armagh tackling technique needs a lot of improvement if this team are reach at least the last four of the championship

Ringfort

Quote from: Throw ball on February 19, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
Never mind referees , players or bad decisions that pitch in Dr Hyde Park is terrible. Players slipping everywhere. Someone could get badly injured.

A friend of mine played County hurling on it. Said it was one of the best pitches he was ever on. The old surface before it was relayed was old school. A bumpy field.

Ros were certainly guilty of buying frees and feigning injury. Its not great to see but most teams utilise the dark arts these days. Ros were a soft naive team before this year. We are sick of the narrative of great forwards but conceding monster scores once anyone has a right go at us. So, personally I will accept a bit of cynical stuff as that is part of the streetwise game management that top teams often have. We appear miles ahead of where we were in that regard and not such a soft touch tactically anymore.

Rossfan

Good win today but a lot of silly things too.
But seems a soundness or solidity in the squad and we're taking no çrap.
We're top of Div 1.
A month ago most of us would have expected to be still looking for a first win .
Let's enjoy the spin and see where it takes us.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

tbrick18

Going on current form, Tyrone and Donegal would very favourite for the drop.
Roscommon going well, would still be surprised if they top the group.
Armagh are just missing something.
Would expect Kerry to improve now some of the top players are being reintroduced.
Galway doing well especially given the players they are missing. I'll predict a top 4 finish of Mayo, roscommon, kerry and Galway in any order.
Tyrone are so bad at the moment.
Donegal will really struggle for scores now, so monaghan and Armagh will prob stay up because of that.


pbat

A lot of Armagh fan's scraping around for excuses (the ref was poor) ( Rossie's dived) Etc etc etc.

We got what we deserved today in the Hyde, nothing. If Supporters want reasons they were within the team and management today. Shocking stuff all round, not expecting a result next week in the Kingdom (Even though I down them on the sweep) but there has to be a performance and a response as it seems a lot of players still believe the hype from a couple of wins last season.

Well done Roscommon, a well drilled outfit and will cause plenty of teams headaches this season.   

Throw ball

Quote from: Ringfort on February 19, 2023, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 19, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
Never mind referees , players or bad decisions that pitch in Dr Hyde Park is terrible. Players slipping everywhere. Someone could get badly injured.

A friend of mine played County hurling on it. Said it was one of the best pitches he was ever on. The old surface before it was relayed was old school. A bumpy field.

Ros were certainly guilty of buying frees and feigning injury. Its not great to see but most teams utilise the dark arts these days. Ros were a soft naive team before this year. We are sick of the narrative of great forwards but conceding monster scores once anyone has a right go at us. So, personally I will accept a bit of cynical stuff as that is part of the streetwise game management that top teams often have. We appear miles ahead of where we were in that regard and not such a soft touch tactically anymore.


Maybe it was because surface was wet but players lost their footing a lot.

OrchardOrange

Rossies dived and cheated all day and the ref bought it all day long. Armagh have a big game next week but always play better when up against the so-called big guns.

Armamike

Quote from: pbat on February 19, 2023, 09:21:03 PM
A lot of Armagh fan's scraping around for excuses (the ref was poor) ( Rossie's dived) Etc etc etc.

We got what we deserved today in the Hyde, nothing. If Supporters want reasons they were within the team and management today. Shocking stuff all round, not expecting a result next week in the Kingdom (Even though I down them on the sweep) but there has to be a performance and a response as it seems a lot of players still believe the hype from a couple of wins last season.

Well done Roscommon, a well drilled outfit and will cause plenty of teams headaches this season.


When teams win everything is rosy. When they lose, it's a disaster.  Armagh weren't terrible today.  By that I mean we were in with a shout of getting something from the game right to the end.  Our downfall was we didn't convert a number of gilt edged goal chances. The one in particular before the Ros penalty was a potential game changer.  Bag that one and we're in a good position to kick on. 
That's just, like your opinion man.

armaghniac

Quote from: Throw ball on February 19, 2023, 09:35:51 PM
Maybe it was because surface was wet but players lost their footing a lot.

There was a little drizzle, but conditions were much better than Tuam, which is not a million miles from Roscommon.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Armamike

Quote from: seafoid on February 19, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: Armamike on February 19, 2023, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on February 19, 2023, 03:27:44 PM
Armagh hype train comes to an end.
Roscommon antics will catch up with them. Downright cheating and no Roscommon fan can surely argue with it?

Only for beggan mistake and mayo capitulation last week armagh could/should be on 0pts

A lot of ifs, buts and maybes there. We've got 3 hard earned pts and will have to graft and get a bit of luck here and there to stay in div 1. That's about it really.
Tyrone and Donegal are worse

As things stand yes. But form and results can fluctuate wildly in this division.  How many times have we seen teams win their first 3 and lose the remainder and vice versa.
That's just, like your opinion man.

clarshack

On the highlights the Roscommon penalty was a stonewaller.