Listened to that absolute clampit horrible excuse for a journalist Ben Lowry talk about how QUB ... named after the Queen with a British War memorial and a hall named after a UUP politician and a Tory... is now a supposed cold house for Unionists because them bloody Catholics are wearing their GAA jerseys.
It would be laughable if it wasn't true!! f**k me!!
Maybe... and I mean MAYBE the 1916 commemoration jersey could be an issue but seriously they need to wise the f**k up.
Obvs Nolan is stirring this particular pot as per usual!!
This will drive him up the wall
https://www.irishnews.com/business/2020/01/22/news/o-neills-to-open-its-first-belfast-city-centre-store-creating-25-jobs-1820618/
He's getting bullied now on Twitter apparently. Shit stirring p***k like Nolan trying to keep an us against them mentality going as it's the only way he'll ever be relevant.
Do they want to go back to the halcyon days when being a member of the GAA was justification for you to be murdered?
There are a lot of very stupid and/or evil people out there.
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2020, 01:09:05 AM
Listened to that absolute clampit horrible excuse for a journalist Ben Lowry talk about how QUB ... named after the Queen with a British War memorial and a hall named after a UUP politician and a Tory... is now a supposed cold house for Unionists because them bloody Catholics are wearing their GAA jerseys.
It would be laughable if it wasn't true!! f**k me!!
Maybe... and I mean MAYBE the 1916 commemoration jersey could be an issue but seriously they need to wise the f**k up.
Obvs Nolan is stirring this particular pot as per usual!!
That's not even a GAA jersey is it? I thought it was only a money spinner for O'Neills.
Regardless, sure you could get annoyed at people wearing Man Utd or Liverpool jerseys if you wanted. Clampit.
Expect a rise in ulster farmer's union and motorsports jackets in retaliation!
Insecurity continues within the Unionist community.
If they wore UUC jersey with skull and crossbones, that might be fun. I'm from the 80s.
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 04, 2020, 10:40:05 AM
If they wore UUC jersey with skull and crossbones, that might be fun. I'm from the 80s.
Coleraine wore those?
I know UCC do and have done for long and manys a day.
Wonder what Mr Lowry thinks about your woman getting intimidated out of her house in North Belfast.
Will Nolan be doing an "exposé" on that???
Quote from: lurganblue on March 04, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
Insecurity continues within the Unionist community.
Settlers are always paranoid
Its just cause they've nowhere to go ever since Renshaws shut down!
Quote from: TheOptimist on March 04, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Its just cause they've nowhere to go ever since Renshaws shut down!
Are you forgetting about the Hatfield??
(https://scontent.fdub5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p640x640/88204920_2779714222119927_2098448027856404480_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=e007fa&_nc_ohc=zGaneWiMDesAX-vo0hS&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub5-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=1c2a657ad1e3f22dbd8273fb1eb7ef1b&oe=5E93FB4C)
They're cashing in on the County Colours night anyway!
Good to see Armagh well represented in the pubs
Jaysus 25 yrs ago id have rattled thon young blade in the picture
Ach who am i kiddin 😂😂😮😔
Running about with bottles of wine in a bar ::)
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
Quote from: Taylor on March 04, 2020, 04:04:13 PM
Running about with bottles of wine in a bar ::)
Lurganites.................
Must be from the vatican city area of Lurgan as it's not buckfast, snob.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
Queens released a statement in response to this and said something along the lines that their student base was largely representative of society in general in NI. The reality is a sizeable chunk of students from a culturally unionist/Protestant background go to GB to study while a majority of those from a catholic/nationalist background go to universities here. So seeing a pile of GAA jerseys around campus isn't to annoy to antagonise anyone, not in my view anyway. It reflects badly on our society that unionists are so afraid of the GAA, but a lot of it IMO is their own ingrained sectarianism coming to the fore. The GAA is made up of people from all shades of nationalism and republicanism, as well as people who don't care and even a few unionists. The way some unionists go on, we all turn into IRA volunteers when we put on an item of GAA clothing.
It's a deep rooted insecurity by some and also being used to shit stir by Lowry / Nolan and the likes.
I would be very surprised if the majority of the people wearing the jersies were doing it to antagonise unionists. They may be doing it to slightly stir up things with people from rival counties yes but if you grow up wearing GAA jersies etc round the place then suddenly you go to Queens should you stop wearing them? Absolutely not - load of nonsense.
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2020, 01:09:05 AM
Listened to that absolute clampit horrible excuse for a journalist Ben Lowry talk about how QUB ... named after the Queen with a British War memorial and a hall named after a UUP politician and a Tory... is now a supposed cold house for Unionists because them bloody Catholics are wearing their GAA jerseys.
It would be laughable if it wasn't true!! f**k me!!
Maybe... and I mean MAYBE the 1916 commemoration jersey could be an issue but seriously they need to wise the f**k up.
Obvs Nolan is stirring this particular pot as per usual!!
I take it that Nolan understood and perhaps shared Lowry's bigoted sentiment, therefore he never asked why Lowry was offended?
Though outside a matchday, I don't get the wearing the sports jersey thing, i.e. for those over 14 or so years old.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
Clubs like Celtic, Rangers, and Linfield are a bit of a special case. If a nationalist were in a bar and were surrounded by Liverpool, Sunderland, or Man Utd. tops he'd probably pass no remarks.
Wonder if gentle Ben would be interested in talking about why he was asked to leave the Belfast Telegraph many years back before finding his natural home in the bigoted rag that is the News Letter (granted, the Tele has now caught up with it in those stakes).
Ridiculous. No one puts on their club jumper or half zip and thinks, 'ooh this is really going to wind themmuns up in class today'. It's great to see young ones running around in their club gear when you think back to not being able to wear any GAA tops for fear of getting the shit kicked out of you. I would have thought it was a sign of a more progressive society. Some people don't seem to want that though.
At the same time, the GAA have to admit how some things would seem if it was the other way around. If there was a crowd of fellas running about in Battle of the Boyne commemorative jerseys, clubs named after UVF and LVF men, singing Up the Ra songs etc. We know it's not the same thing but the other side don't see if that way. Sometimes we don't help ourselves either.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
Quote from: JimStynes on March 05, 2020, 07:19:44 AM
Ridiculous. No one puts on their club jumper or half zip and thinks, 'ooh this is really going to wind themmuns up in class today'. It's great to see young ones running around in their club gear when you think back to not being able to wear any GAA tops for fear of getting the shit kicked out of you. I would have thought it was a sign of a more progressive society. Some people don't seem to want that though.
At the same time, the GAA have to admit how some things would seem if it was the other way around. If there was a crowd of fellas running about in Battle of the Boyne commemorative jerseys, clubs named after UVF and LVF men, singing Up the Ra songs etc. We know it's not the same thing but the other side don't see if that way. Sometimes we don't help ourselves either.
The GAA is a nationalist organisation.
Ben is just espousing a posh voiced version of 'The GAA is the IRA at play' which is similarly one step removed from 'ATAT'.
These feelings are widespread amongst the unionist community.
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
It was indeed.. but alas the reasons outlined whilst not untrue was not the reason it went under. The reasons for that would make the executives of Enron look like saints.
The lads and lassies from the "cooler" initially struggled to take instruction from lads who talked about gaelic football and hurling at lunchtimes and funny names with funny spelling but they soon got used to it.
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Do you have a link for this Johnny ?
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
It was indeed.. but alas the reasons outlined whilst not untrue was not the reason it went under. The reasons for that would make the executives of Enron look like saints.
The lads and lassies from the "cooler" initially struggled to take instruction from lads who talked about gaelic football and hurling at lunchtimes and funny names with funny spelling but they soon got used to it.
Would have been a lot more Gah chat in NITEC which would have been referred to as The Vatican by the locals.
Plenty of Rangers (IL), and Linfield tops as well as the paramilitary tattoos on display.
I take it you went on one or two of the GAA trips to Galway??
GAA tops - bad
Poppy badges - good
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Do you have a link for this Johnny ?
No directly answering your question AC, but Eamon Dunphy had a good podcast interview with Lowry recently:
https://www.thestandwitheamondunphy.com/
Episode 652.
You have to get used to Dunphy's style which is to lick up to all his interviewees and agree with most of what they say, as his method of getting them to open up more.
In a following interview with Eamon McCann (Episode 655), Dunphy referenced Lowry being a bit too right wing for his liking ;D
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Do you have a link for this Johnny ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88)
about 1 hour and 10 in.
Lowry was really clutching at straws..
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
It was indeed.. but alas the reasons outlined whilst not untrue was not the reason it went under. The reasons for that would make the executives of Enron look like saints.
The lads and lassies from the "cooler" initially struggled to take instruction from lads who talked about gaelic football and hurling at lunchtimes and funny names with funny spelling but they soon got used to it.
Would have been a lot more Gah chat in NITEC which would have been referred to as The Vatican by the locals.
Plenty of Rangers (IL), and Linfield tops as well as the paramilitary tattoos on display.
I take it you went on one or two of the GAA trips to Galway??
The test jig screen savers and all were rangers screen savers, I kid you not.
I went on the one where there was a hurling team as well and an eejit from Dessertmartin (who never hurled worth a f**k in his life) had the kitbag on the shop floor with the end of a hurl hanging out of it. My boss at the time was an old lad from Larne and he came into the office disgusted by it, looks at me and says "you're probably going as well, aren't you?, f**k I remember the time when we used to close up for the 12th and everyone in a band would have brought their instruments in and we marched up and down the shop floor pissed as farts."
I nodded to him and told him to "get used to it big man".
Rare place.
Did anybody here ever work for FG Wilson? I had a spell in their drawing office in Lurgan where they built the double deck trailers in the old Goodyear factory. It was a small office of about a dozen people and I was one of three fenians in it. Everybody would sit at the same table in the break room, and we'd talk about the Ulster championship on a Monday morning, talking about teams like Donegal and Monaghan. The older gents at the other end of the table would start shifting uncomfortably in their seats until one of them would pipe up "Did you see the rugby?"
Other times they'd come in and say, their finest Anglo-Aaaghrish egg-scent, "Did you hear the good news? England are a hundred and sixty four for five!"
This was a firm in which the top brass would drive Mercedes cars longer than Transit vans and play polo at weekends. They went out of business eventually.
Edit to add: They were actually a good crowd to work for, and I learned a lot from them. And they were always nice to me despite my youth at the time. It was just funny seeing them interact with fenians.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Do you have a link for this Johnny ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88)
about 1 hour and 10 in.
Lowry was really clutching at straws..
I think the presenter dealt well with that segment of debate, he had a professional air of restrained incredulity.
Are there any morsels of evidence to support Ben's claim that there's a widespread perception that Queens is a cold place for the sensitive Unionist?
I suspect his use of the word "widespread" is a tad hysterical.
The Alliance councilor who was a student at Queens in 1990s said his experience was one of inclusiveness.
A current student claimed the GAA tops were not an issue, but not kosher when they displayed a political symbol eg the proclamation or the tricolour, he also said that there were plenty of IFA tops.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: Taylor on March 04, 2020, 04:04:13 PM
Running about with bottles of wine in a bar ::)
Lurganites.................
Must be from the vatican city area of Lurgan as it's not buckfast, snob.
As someone who grew up in the Vatican I can tell ye we love our buckfast. None of that white wine muck
Cognitive dissonance for Unionists
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/duchess-shows-hurling-promise-as-royals-sign-off-on-irish-visit-1.4194213
Quote from: seafoid on March 05, 2020, 09:25:25 PM
Cognitive dissonance for Unionists
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/duchess-shows-hurling-promise-as-royals-sign-off-on-irish-visit-1.4194213
She is obviously in the ra. I had my suspicions all along.
Quote from: Angelo on March 05, 2020, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 05, 2020, 07:19:44 AM
Ridiculous. No one puts on their club jumper or half zip and thinks, 'ooh this is really going to wind themmuns up in class today'. It's great to see young ones running around in their club gear when you think back to not being able to wear any GAA tops for fear of getting the shit kicked out of you. I would have thought it was a sign of a more progressive society. Some people don't seem to want that though.
At the same time, the GAA have to admit how some things would seem if it was the other way around. If there was a crowd of fellas running about in Battle of the Boyne commemorative jerseys, clubs named after UVF and LVF men, singing Up the Ra songs etc. We know it's not the same thing but the other side don't see if that way. Sometimes we don't help ourselves either.
The GAA is a nationalist organisation.
And?
Not so much in the interests of balance this time. Just an observation.
I'd expect that a hefty percentage of nationalists who think along the lines of "there's nothing threatening about GAA tops, them unionists are paranoid and insecure" are also the same people who would cross the road to get offended by people wearing poppies in November.
Poppies have to do with war, the GAA has to do with sport Therein lies the difference.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 05, 2020, 11:07:18 PM
Not so much in the interests of balance this time. Just an observation.
I'd expect that a hefty percentage of nationalists who think along the lines of "there's nothing threatening about GAA tops, them unionists are paranoid and insecure" are also the same people who would cross the road to get offended by people wearing poppies in November.
Poppies don't bother me, personally. Shaming people for refusing to wear them? That I have a problem with. It should be up to the individual if they want to partake in that sort of thing.
Most gaa tops have ridiculous sponsors anyway look at the tyrone hunky dory shirt.The 1916 shirt looks good from the from but too much writing on the back.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
It was indeed.. but alas the reasons outlined whilst not untrue was not the reason it went under. The reasons for that would make the executives of Enron look like saints.
The lads and lassies from the "cooler" initially struggled to take instruction from lads who talked about gaelic football and hurling at lunchtimes and funny names with funny spelling but they soon got used to it.
Would have been a lot more Gah chat in NITEC which would have been referred to as The Vatican by the locals.
Plenty of Rangers (IL), and Linfield tops as well as the paramilitary tattoos on display.
I take it you went on one or two of the GAA trips to Galway??
The test jig screen savers and all were rangers screen savers, I kid you not.
I went on the one where there was a hurling team as well and an eejit from Dessertmartin (who never hurled worth a f**k in his life) had the kitbag on the shop floor with the end of a hurl hanging out of it. My boss at the time was an old lad from Larne and he came into the office disgusted by it, looks at me and says "you're probably going as well, aren't you?, f**k I remember the time when we used to close up for the 12th and everyone in a band would have brought their instruments in and we marched up and down the shop floor pissed as farts."
I nodded to him and told him to "get used to it big man".
Rare place.
The boul PK I believe who dragged the brother along with him.
The minibus was driven by a former Dunloy stalwart if memory serves me right.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
I just got round to listening to Lowry on Talkback and I think there needs to be a distinction between a GAA top and an O'Neill's top.
Those proclamation tops that O'Neill's make have nothing to do with the GAA, just like the tractor ones, ploughing championship ones and all that other písh.
Do you have a link for this Johnny ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000fw88)
about 1 hour and 10 in.
Lowry was really clutching at straws..
He wasnt half.
Was starting to lose it near the end of the interview, especially when he started going on about the Holylands on Patrick's Day.
He dosent half come up with some dung.
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 06, 2020, 07:28:00 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 05, 2020, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 04, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
In the interests of balance.
If a person from a nationalist background was in a part of Belfast and finds themselves surrounded by Rangers tops, Linfield tops, and NI tops, I'd expect they'd feel somewhat outnumbered, isolated, unwelcome and perhaps intimidated if alcohol or buoyant behaviour was involved.
How many of these tops have to be on display for someone to feel surrounded is a different matter. But it's still a very natural feeling in such circumstances.
I worked in those surroundings in a factory in Monkstown for years along with a sizeable amount of nationalist colleagues and not one shit was given for my feelings and with the name I have it was only too obvious what my background was.
Wear your GAA tops if you want but don't be a c**k and antagonise those wearing poppies or whatever else..
The good ship Nortel - underworked and overpaid. No wonder it went to the wall, unfortunately.
It was indeed.. but alas the reasons outlined whilst not untrue was not the reason it went under. The reasons for that would make the executives of Enron look like saints.
The lads and lassies from the "cooler" initially struggled to take instruction from lads who talked about gaelic football and hurling at lunchtimes and funny names with funny spelling but they soon got used to it.
Would have been a lot more Gah chat in NITEC which would have been referred to as The Vatican by the locals.
Plenty of Rangers (IL), and Linfield tops as well as the paramilitary tattoos on display.
I take it you went on one or two of the GAA trips to Galway??
The test jig screen savers and all were rangers screen savers, I kid you not.
I went on the one where there was a hurling team as well and an eejit from Dessertmartin (who never hurled worth a f**k in his life) had the kitbag on the shop floor with the end of a hurl hanging out of it. My boss at the time was an old lad from Larne and he came into the office disgusted by it, looks at me and says "you're probably going as well, aren't you?, f**k I remember the time when we used to close up for the 12th and everyone in a band would have brought their instruments in and we marched up and down the shop floor pissed as farts."
I nodded to him and told him to "get used to it big man".
Rare place.
The boul PK I believe who dragged the brother along with him.
The minibus was driven by a former Dunloy stalwart if memory serves me right.
Not PK, a fellow clubman, Damian something or other with a bit of an english accent IIRC.
I wonder what Lowry thinks of 'taigs' working in the the Shipyard in the 70's 80's!
Rangers tops Linfield tops
Building size Union Jacks
Building size UVF/UFF/UDA flegs in all the canteens, draped across the whole place
Flute bands every year on the day we knocked off for the July holidays!
A murder inside the boat, still no one convicted of that one
Now in saying all of that, I didn't ever feel too uncomfortable, it was expected (just like prods going to Queens, there will be GAA tops and 'taigs') and I just got on with it, I'd have left if I felt unsafe
Will and Kate no bother with the old GAA yesterday.
The evidence offered on the radio program was that the wearing of the GAA shirt in Queens is not perceived as offensive, same with the IFA shirt.
That Lowry was talking through his hole when he claimed that there was a "widespread" perception that Unionists were offended by the GAA shirt.
It appears to be the case that young nordies like wearing sports shirts, nobody is offended and it is not worn to offend others.
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2020, 10:15:10 AM
Will and Kate no bother with the old GAA yesterday.
That is the thing about unionism. GB has moved on from the past. The Duchess playing hurling. And Unionism is stuck in the past. So what if people speak Irish? QE2 spoke Irish. Curry my yogurt is where unionism is at.
Salthill Knocknacarra another 'cold house' for Unionists . . .
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Quote from: seafoid on March 06, 2020, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2020, 10:15:10 AM
Will and Kate no bother with the old GAA yesterday.
That is the thing about unionism. GB has moved on from the past. The Duchess playing hurling. And Unionism is stuck in the past. So what if people speak Irish? QE2 spoke Irish. Curry my yogurt is where unionism is at.
When you live in the 17th Century everything is a perceived "threat" ::)
When I started in QUB back in the early noughties one of my first lectures was with 300 people and I didn't know anyone. So my tactic was to wear a GAA top to lure a possible friend. Sitting there and a lad sits down beside me and starts talking to me cause he saw the GAA top. Turned out to become a good friend throughout university and he went on to be a great county footballer too.
I wasn't trying to intimidate anyone - My only shame was that it was a Dublin top!
Lowry is talking shit to try and prevent the inevitable!
Lowry seems a fairly reasonable fella when he is on RTE; on Twitter he gives Bryson a run for his money.
Quote from: WT4E on March 06, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
When I started in QUB back in the early noughties one of my first lectures was with 300 people and I didn't know anyone. So my tactic was to wear a GAA top to lure a possible friend. Sitting there and a lad sits down beside me and starts talking to me cause he saw the GAA top. Turned out to become a good friend throughout university and he went on to be a great county footballer too.
I wasn't trying to intimidate anyone - My only shame was that it was a Dublin top!
Lowry is talking shit to try and prevent the inevitable!
If it was the wee early 2000's one with the fade then i'll accept that. Otherwise... :-X
Quote from: WT4E on March 06, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
When I started in QUB back in the early noughties one of my first lectures was with 300 people and I didn't know anyone. So my tactic was to wear a GAA top to lure a possible friend. Sitting there and a lad sits down beside me and starts talking to me cause he saw the GAA top. Turned out to become a good friend throughout university and he went on to be a great county footballer too.
I wasn't trying to intimidate anyone - My only shame was that it was a Dublin top!
Lowry is talking shit to try and prevent the inevitable!
I done the same but with an armagh top. Made a lifelong friend. Also happened to make a good friend from the unionist community
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 06, 2020, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 06, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
When I started in QUB back in the early noughties one of my first lectures was with 300 people and I didn't know anyone. So my tactic was to wear a GAA top to lure a possible friend. Sitting there and a lad sits down beside me and starts talking to me cause he saw the GAA top. Turned out to become a good friend throughout university and he went on to be a great county footballer too.
I wasn't trying to intimidate anyone - My only shame was that it was a Dublin top!
Lowry is talking shit to try and prevent the inevitable!
I done the same but with an armagh top. Made a lifelong friend. Also happened to make a good friend from the unionist community
Did you bond over the colour orange? ;)
Lowry is more than just a bullshítter.
He has the smell of a demagogue dressed up as an academic.
Quote from: BennyCake on March 06, 2020, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 06, 2020, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 06, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
When I started in QUB back in the early noughties one of my first lectures was with 300 people and I didn't know anyone. So my tactic was to wear a GAA top to lure a possible friend. Sitting there and a lad sits down beside me and starts talking to me cause he saw the GAA top. Turned out to become a good friend throughout university and he went on to be a great county footballer too.
I wasn't trying to intimidate anyone - My only shame was that it was a Dublin top!
Lowry is talking shit to try and prevent the inevitable!
I done the same but with an armagh top. Made a lifelong friend. Also happened to make a good friend from the unionist community
Did you bond over the colour orange? ;)
Hahaha. Possibly. One friend was a fellow Armagh man. The other guy played for ballyclare comrades at the time
Quote from: Main Street on March 05, 2020, 06:16:50 PM
I think the presenter dealt well with that segment of debate, he had a professional air of restrained incredulity.
The only one restrained in that interview is Ben. He restrained himself from saying outright that it bothers him to have Nationalists in the majority in the University.
/Jim.
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on March 07, 2020, 08:10:39 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 05, 2020, 06:16:50 PM
I think the presenter dealt well with that segment of debate, he had a professional air of restrained incredulity.
The only one restrained in that interview is Ben. He restrained himself from saying outright that it bothers him to have Nationalists in the majority in the University.
/Jim.
Ben in another interview claimed that NI society was well on the way to dealing with the "lingering elements of bias" in the early 1960s, he did admit that there were tiny elements of gerrymandering in small town councils west of the bann.
I wonder what Ben would say about all those regular 11 - 0 and 10-1 drubbings in the Westminister elections? creative technical architecture?;D