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Title: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on November 08, 2019, 11:08:06 PM
Laois in a group with Dublin, Carlow, and Westmeath, with the only home game being against Westmeath on 5th Jan. Start away to Dublin in less than a month!
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on November 09, 2019, 09:19:10 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 08, 2019, 11:08:06 PM
Laois in a group with Dublin, Carlow, and Westmeath, with the only home game being against Westmeath on 5th Jan. Start away to Dublin in less than a month!
Jayzus, already?!?!
That'll be a scrappy match, with the Dubs wanting some payback.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on November 09, 2019, 10:33:17 PM
They'll both be trying out new lads, I'd say.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: redsetanta on November 12, 2019, 10:36:26 AM
Jaysus hurling in mid December..............should be a cracker!
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on November 12, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
Here's the schedule from https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/bord-na-mona-walsh-cup-s-h-2018/

Round 1
8 December 2019, at 2:00 pm   
Dublin v Laois
Westmeath v Carlow

Round 2
15 December 2019, at 2:00 pm             
Westmeath v Dublin
Carlow v Laois

Round 3
5 January 2020, 2:00 pm      
Dublin v Carlow
Laois v Westmeath

Semi-Finals                
12 January 2020      

Final    
            
19 January 2020
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on November 12, 2019, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on November 12, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
Here's the schedule from https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/bord-na-mona-walsh-cup-s-h-2018/

Round 1
8 December 2019, at 2:00 pm   
Dublin v Laois
Westmeath v Carlow

Round 2
15 December 2019, at 2:00 pm             
Westmeath v Dublin
Carlow v Laois

Round 3
5 January 2020, 2:00 pm      
Dublin v Carlow
Laois v Westmeath

Semi-Finals                
12 January 2020      

Final    
            
19 January 2020

Is there even a team in training at this point?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Spiritof1915 on November 12, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on November 12, 2019, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on November 12, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
Here's the schedule from https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/bord-na-mona-walsh-cup-s-h-2018/

Round 1
8 December 2019, at 2:00 pm   
Dublin v Laois
Westmeath v Carlow

Round 2
15 December 2019, at 2:00 pm             
Westmeath v Dublin
Carlow v Laois

Round 3
5 January 2020, 2:00 pm      
Dublin v Carlow
Laois v Westmeath

Semi-Finals                
12 January 2020      

Final    
            
19 January 2020

Is there even a team in training at this point?
Starting back officially on Friday I believe.
Players meeting last Sunday. 
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on November 13, 2019, 12:59:04 PM
I know it's always hard to get a picture at this time of year but any news of who's in and out?

We know Cha and Ben Conroy are out. The RE contingent will hopefully be missing until Xmas (or Paddy's day!!). Expect a few of last years U21s might have stepped up?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 13, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on November 13, 2019, 12:59:04 PM
I know it's always hard to get a picture at this time of year but any news of who's in and out?

We know Cha and Ben Conroy are out. The RE contingent will hopefully be missing until Xmas (or Paddy's day!!). Expect a few of last years U21s might have stepped up?

James Keyes, Eoin Gaughan, Liam Senior were the main ones who I was impressed with last year.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Blow-in on November 18, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Dont know how true it is but hearing a number of Laois players opting off the panel for the coming year. Up to 6 players(2 we already know) who would really offer something. If true sums up the attitude to hurling in this county. Players afraid to be challenged. The mindset of some people would drive ya mad. Then again it's an unbelievable commitment players have to give but still frustrating as a fan.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on November 19, 2019, 01:06:39 PM
Are these lads that were on it, or lads that might have come in?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Blow-in on November 20, 2019, 10:11:35 AM
Yeah players who were on the panel last year and played in a number of games. The 2 obvious one are Cha and Ben Conroy but the other 3/4 I wont name until it's out in the open. Very disappointing if true. I was just wondering did anyone else hear anything?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on November 20, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Heard of one or two that are unlikely to be involved because of understandable health issues but would hope that they come back eventually. There are a couple of the older lads that you would imagine will have to make decisions.

Big question for me is whether there is any new blood.

Anyone from Camross (Gearoid Burke, Ciaran Collier, Dwayne Palmer)?
Leigh Bergin back?
Sean Downey?
Joe Campion?
James Keyes?
John Purcell (could he give a year as corner back cover given the season he has had?)
James Ryan?
Cian Taylor?


Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on November 20, 2019, 12:54:10 PM
Sean Downey staying in America, I believe.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Spiritof1915 on November 20, 2019, 10:56:37 PM
Ciaran Collier asked and refused by all accounts. word picky is not available either.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on December 04, 2019, 03:02:34 AM
I just realized there's a match this Sunday! (Still seems strange for early December.)

Any more news on who's in and who's out?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Neutralobserver on December 04, 2019, 09:23:12 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on December 04, 2019, 03:02:34 AM
I just realized there's a match this Sunday! (Still seems strange for early December.)

Any more news on who's in and who's out?

tough game in parnell park, are the rathdowney/eirll contingent back as yet after their leinster run?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Neutralobserver on December 04, 2019, 05:32:44 PM
Just heard game now off
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Brandon on December 12, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Why did cha and conroy opt out ? And more to come ? Why is this happening ?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on December 14, 2019, 11:10:50 AM
It's a massive commitment, I suppose, and some lads like Cha and Picky have been on the treadmill a good while.
Great to see James Ryan back in, though. Any word on Leigh Bergin? Had heard he was back, too - but he's not starting tomorrow.
Very experimental team named, only 6 of the "championship" team from the summer. In a way, I'm surprised any of the Rathdowney lads are starting.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on December 15, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
I just looked at the CLG Laois Twitter feed to see how the match went. Looks like the lads played a great game. Was the Carlow side mostly new lads or veteran county hurlers?

I saw that Aaron Dunphy was injured. Any info on how he is doing?

I saw that Ronan Murray was the first to rattle the net. I'm not familiar with that name. What club is he from?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on December 15, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
He's from Rosenalis.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on December 16, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on December 15, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
He's from Rosenalis.
Thanks, Burdizzo.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: seafoid on December 16, 2019, 06:50:56 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on December 04, 2019, 03:02:34 AM
I just realized there's a match this Sunday! (Still seems strange for early December.)

Any more news on who's in and who's out?

The idea of this pre season tournament is to broaden the panel for later in the year to consolidate the progress of Laois.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 04, 2020, 11:56:03 PM
Laois V Westmeath in Borris at 2pm this Sunday I read online.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 05, 2020, 04:23:13 PM
Laois 1-12 v 2-17 Westmeath

A very experimental Laois side with just four of the JMD Final players on field compared to Westmeath's twelve. Broderick was good for Laois and thought Eoin Gaughan was decent, though he missed a sitter of a free.

Laois seemed to get very bottled up in their short-passing game and didn't exhert enough pressure on Westmeath's half back line who were immense in clearing ball after ball.

Alot to work on and with the league around three weeks away we've alot of improving to do.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mossy Bruce on January 05, 2020, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: G@@ on January 05, 2020, 04:23:13 PM
Laois 1-12 v 2-17 Westmeath

A very experimental Laois side with just four of the JMD Final players on field compared to Westmeath's twelve...
Thanks for your commentary G@@. I didn't get up early (5:30 am here) to listen to this one--going to wait until the League matches to start that.

I was wondering how many intercounty veterans we had on the pitch compared to Westmeath. If the ratio was 1:3 I don't feel too bad about the outcome. I was glad to see there was a new goalie getting some play time, just in case Enda Rowland has to be subbed (god forbid) for any amount of time this coming year.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on January 05, 2020, 09:55:44 PM
We ended up, in the second half, with none of our "good lads" on. Westmeath's touch was much better than ours - as was their physicality. On that point, Ciaran McEvoy and James Ryan, when they get up to speed, should be good additions, but I also thought that Alan Connolly showed pretty well in at corner back. Eoin Gaughan has a decent strike and offered a bit and - as G@@ said - Broderick did well in the forwards for a smallish lad. But, yes, a bit to be done all right.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 06, 2020, 12:03:43 PM
Here was the team from yesterday:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENhcNDFW4AAJv-P.jpg)
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 06, 2020, 12:11:24 PM
Dublin in Dublin on Thursday evening at 7.30pm. Can't imagine there will many get to go to that next fixture, though might suit a few who are working and renting accommodation there.



Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on January 06, 2020, 12:34:24 PM
Ah, right. So 'twas Mark Hennessy caught the eye in the forwards when he came on.
I believe John Lennon will be out for a while as well, as he needs to get something done about his injured knee.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Mad Mentor on January 06, 2020, 08:48:00 PM
It's like Groundhog Day here in Laois sometimes. I took a quick look back at the Walsh Cup 2019 discussions and it wasn't very encouraging either. It was a poor display from Laois on Sunday, but it's only January. A lot of new faces, and the team played like lads who had only just met, which effectively they have. The best men on show were the established lads, Willie Dunphy, Ryan Mullanney et al, but it was valuable game time for the new arrivals. Westmeath looked a more established and confident team but when you look at who we have to come in to the team we would blow them away. Who could have guessed this time last year how the year would pan out? We have to put our faith in Eddie that he can get these lads where they need to be when it matters. The spirit he fostered in the squad was what changed things last year. The lads didn't suddenly get hugely more skilful, but they believed in themselves.
It was good to get back watching live hurling again even if the match itself was disappointing and there was a decent crowd. The new pitch in Borris was in very good condition and a credit to them, but how two intercounty teams togged out in those dressing rooms is a mystery. I presume this will be the next thing on their development list. Best of luck to the lads on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: redsetanta on January 08, 2020, 01:06:33 PM
I see where Eddie was saying he will be fielding a strong enough team against Dublin tomorrow evening. Should see many of the regular starters back. I woinder how Dublin will line up, will they have anything resembling their first 15?
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: on the hop on January 08, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
A few regulars back for the Dublin game
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: burdizzo on January 09, 2020, 07:56:42 AM
Don't know how much the named team will correspond to who actually lines out, but still... Thought Allan Connolly could have warranted another run.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 09, 2020, 05:31:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENyP5QnW4AIWbk1.jpg)

Best of luck to the lads.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: Tobias on January 09, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
It is a bit like groundhog day but im sorry im going to have a whinge. After the unbelievably heart throbbing and unexpectedly exciting 2019, I cant help but feel extremely disappointed with the unavailability of so many players. I was sure all last years panel would be back with the addition of maybe 10 lads that also should have been there.
2019 was massive for Laois hurling, I never though I would witness such a day as we had against Dublin in the town. If you told me this time last year that we would be taking on Tipp in an all Ireland quarter final in Croke park, I would have said your off your rocker. If you told me that we would give them a serious rattle too with 14 men for half the game I would be sending you to a psychologist too. I was never as proud as I was for those three weeks. People in South Laois had a real spring in their step, a smile on their face and hope in their hearts.
You ask me why im so downbeat now? Well here it is
Cha Dwyer
Joe Campion
Picky Maher
Ciaran Collier
Leigh Bergin
Cahir Healy
Gearoid Burke
Ben Conroy
Dwayne Palmer
PJ Scully
Sean Downey
Cian Taylor
Eoin Fleming
Mark Dowling
Tricky Joe
Robbie Phelan
Stephen Phelan
There are injuries too but they can be excused. For the rest I guess its a life choice but I believe its one these lads will regret in time.
I believe 5 from the above list would start in the championship and at least 5 more would play a part. I dont want to be too critical but I was at the game in Borris last Sunday, i would say three or four of our starting team did not feel the weight of the ball once in the game, these lads are young and will improve but I would be fearful going into such a hard hitting Leinster championship. We have other lads to come in and we wont be too bad but with the list above available I think we would really take a bit of beating. Pity


Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: clonadmad on January 09, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
Quote from: Tobias on January 09, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
It is a bit like groundhog day but im sorry im going to have a whinge. After the unbelievably heart throbbing and unexpectedly exciting 2019, I cant help but feel extremely disappointed with the unavailability of so many players. I was sure all last years panel would be back with the addition of maybe 10 lads that also should have been there.
2019 was massive for Laois hurling, I never though I would witness such a day as we had against Dublin in the town. If you told me this time last year that we would be taking on Tipp in an all Ireland quarter final in Croke park, I would have said your off your rocker. If you told me that we would give them a serious rattle too with 14 men for half the game I would be sending you to a psychologist too. I was never as proud as I was for those three weeks. People in South Laois had a real spring in their step, a smile on their face and hope in their hearts.
You ask me why im so downbeat now? Well here it is
Cha Dwyer
Joe Campion
Picky Maher
Ciaran Collier
Leigh Bergin
Cahir Healy
Gearoid Burke
Ben Conroy
Dwayne Palmer
PJ Scully
Sean Downey
Cian Taylor
Eoin Fleming
Mark Dowling
Tricky Joe
Robbie Phelan
Stephen Phelan
There are injuries too but they can be excused. For the rest I guess its a life choice but I believe its one these lads will regret in time.
I believe 5 from the above list would start in the championship and at least 5 more would play a part. I dont want to be too critical but I was at the game in Borris last Sunday, i would say three or four of our starting team did not feel the weight of the ball once in the game, these lads are young and will improve but I would be fearful going into such a hard hitting Leinster championship. We have other lads to come in and we wont be too bad but with the list above available I think we would really take a bit of beating. Pity

In previous years,you'd be hearing

No point in committing

The Set up is shite

The management is shite

We are going nowhere,not worth my time

Etc

Etc

Etc

We were a top 6 team in 2019

We gave Tipp more of a rattle with 14 men than what Kilkenny did

And yet the above named crew won't commit,everything is in place to build on last year but it won't happen.

We are facing the mother and father of all battles this year even to stay competitive with everyone on board and lads have turned their backs on the county.

There's no other Liam McCarthy county where you'd have lads refusing to play.

At least next year with Brennan gone and we gone back to disarray and momentum lost,ye can get back to moaning and bitching again

We had our chance,we blew it
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: vetoldthe on January 09, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 09, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
Quote from: Tobias on January 09, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
It is a bit like groundhog day but im sorry im going to have a whinge. After the unbelievably heart throbbing and unexpectedly exciting 2019, I cant help but feel extremely disappointed with the unavailability of so many players. I was sure all last years panel would be back with the addition of maybe 10 lads that also should have been there.
2019 was massive for Laois hurling, I never though I would witness such a day as we had against Dublin in the town. If you told me this time last year that we would be taking on Tipp in an all Ireland quarter final in Croke park, I would have said your off your rocker. If you told me that we would give them a serious rattle too with 14 men for half the game I would be sending you to a psychologist too. I was never as proud as I was for those three weeks. People in South Laois had a real spring in their step, a smile on their face and hope in their hearts.
You ask me why im so downbeat now? Well here it is
Cha Dwyer
Joe Campion
Picky Maher
Ciaran Collier
Leigh Bergin
Cahir Healy
Gearoid Burke
Ben Conroy
Dwayne Palmer
PJ Scully
Sean Downey
Cian Taylor
Eoin Fleming
Mark Dowling
Tricky Joe
Robbie Phelan
Stephen Phelan
There are injuries too but they can be excused. For the rest I guess its a life choice but I believe its one these lads will regret in time.
I believe 5 from the above list would start in the championship and at least 5 more would play a part. I dont want to be too critical but I was at the game in Borris last Sunday, i would say three or four of our starting team did not feel the weight of the ball once in the game, these lads are young and will improve but I would be fearful going into such a hard hitting Leinster championship. We have other lads to come in and we wont be too bad but with the list above available I think we would really take a bit of beating. Pity

In previous years,you'd be hearing

No point in committing

The Set up is shite

The management is shite

We are going nowhere,not worth my time

Etc

Etc

Etc

We were a top 6 team in 2019

We gave Tipp more of a rattle with 14 men than what Kilkenny did

And yet the above named crew won't commit,everything is in place to build on last year but it won't happen.

We are facing the mother and father of all battles this year even to stay competitive with everyone on board and lads have turned their backs on the county.

There's no other Liam McCarthy county where you'd have lads refusing to play.

At least next year with Brennan gone and we gone back to disarray and momentum lost,ye can get back to moaning and bitching again

We had our chance,we blew it
I                                 I HOPE YOUR ARE WRONG, BUT I'M GUESSING YOU WILL BE RIGHT, THAT LAOIS ALL OVER                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: bluespower on January 09, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
That is just shocking that many players not committing i am sure a few have genuine reasons for not participating but that many,? Eddie Brennan must be thinking to himself Thank God this is my last season with Laois.

This kind of attitude and thinking in uniquely a Laois thing for sure its like subsconsiously these absent players are afraid of success they feel more comfortable with failure and been second best after the success of last season this year may just be a step even closer to success than they would have liked

I see where all Laois camogie teams have pulled out of their championship also for lack of interest and availability of players, so, this is not just confined to male thinking either.

There is a saying go big or go home and with our shit thinking it looks like our teams will always be going to f**k home with our tail between our legs.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: G@@ on January 09, 2020, 09:32:27 PM
Dublin 1-28 v 0-17 Laois. We were 5pts off them with nine minutes to go. It seems when they got the goal they were able to pile it on. Pity.
Title: Re: Walsh Cup 2020
Post by: on the hop on January 09, 2020, 10:51:30 PM
Tough night tonight, Dublin we're far fitter and slicker and missed very little. The few starting changes gave us a very light and young looking team. We are all over place at times in the first half and seemed to be playing mullaney as the spare man. It wasn't one of Ryan's best nights as he was the cause of a few scores. Dublin went down the sides and stretched us constantly. We hit a lot of poor ball down to their spare man throughout the game and it put the backs under pressure with it coming back. We stayed in touch somewhat with Ross nabbing a few scores. A few changes at half time especially Dublin taking off thankfully eamon Dillon who caused us no end of problems and we settled. Jack Kelly went back to the full back line and Podge Delaney made a huge difference. Purcell stayed full forward and despite not doing much it allowed Ross out the field where he ran himself into the ground. Got it back close before they got the goal and then we collapsed to a succession of points.

It might be unfair to say the team is unfit but they certainly have a good bit to do before the league. Flanagan man marked their big man hetherton and had a tough night. He battled well but needs a bit more hurling but I can see him starting as he has the size. Jack Kelly was plugging holes everywhere and Delaney made a big difference. Was not a night for our forwards bar Ross and we were out muscled a lot. We certainly are going to feel the loss of mark kavanagh