https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0809/896281-corbett/
SHocking case. Wife seems to have been a nasty piece of work. Her dad even more so.
Was the murderer from America herself or did they all move over from Limerick?
Was there no explanation of why?
Quote from: screenexile on August 10, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Was there no explanation of why?
There was a $600,000 dollar life policy, of which she was "the main beneficiary".
Also, her father didn't like him and his "rowdy Irish friends" who "cussed too much" and left cigarette butts about the place. :-\
Quote from: Hardy on August 10, 2017, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 10, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Was there no explanation of why?
There was a $600,000 dollar life policy, of which she was "the main beneficiary".
Also, her father didn't like him and his "rowdy Irish friends" who "cussed too much" and left cigarette butts about the place. :-\
Jaysus!!
Quote from: MoChara on August 10, 2017, 11:11:36 AM
Was the murderer from America herself or did they all move over from Limerick?
An American. She moved to Limerick to be an au pair after his first wife died. When she married him, she became 'homesick' and wanted to move back to the states. I hate to say it, but I think she had him as an easy mark from the start.
Followed this from right when it happened. Her facebook is mild now compared to what it was around that time. She was mental on facebook with all her hard luck stories and bullshit. In hindsight she was probably made take most of it down for legal reasons.
Anyone know why 2nd degree murder? Not 1st?
Probably something small in the carrying out of it. Maybe something to show it wasnt ultimately planned on that night at that particular time.
A very fine line between both.
Quote from: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:08:17 PM
Probably something small in the carrying out of it. Maybe something to show it wasnt ultimately planned on that night at that particular time.
First degree murder in NC has to involve premeditation, I believe, or be carried out in the course of a felony like armed robbery. I suppose the prosecution felt it would be difficult to proved premeditation with the weapon(s) used etc.
Didn't they find drugs in his system administered by his wife. That says premeditatiom. The law is an ass. How they treated his body doesn't say heat of the moment.
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2017, 12:15:08 PM
Didn't they find drugs in his system administered by his wife. That says premeditatiom. The law is an ass. How they treated his body doesn't say heat of the moment.
I suppose it's easier to get a prosecution for 2nd degree murder. Better lock them up for 20 years than have them walk with a hung jury. NC requires a unanimous verdict.
I think they cant say for sure that they planned to kill him that particular night. Probably that they had planned to do it but whatever happened that night allowed them to go ahead with it or something like that. Easier to prove second degree also.
She had a brick on her bedside cabinet which she used.
If that isnt pre-meditated...............
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
She had a brick on her bedside cabinet which she used.
If that isnt pre-meditated...............
They were trying to say he was a threat to her. She could easily say the brick was to protect herself. Equally with the drugs, it would be hard to say from where he got them/who made the drink/who added the drug.
I think it's fairly clear they were out to get him, but I think it's also fair to say that while you can infer stuff, it's hard to prove that.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 10, 2017, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
She had a brick on her bedside cabinet which she used.
If that isnt pre-meditated...............
They were trying to say he was a threat to her. She could easily say the brick was to protect herself. Equally with the drugs, it would be hard to say from where he got them/who made the drink/who added the drug.
I think it's fairly clear they were out to get him, but I think it's also fair to say that while you can infer stuff, it's hard to prove that.
Too many variables for 1st degree I suppose.
Justice served for the family in any case
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 10, 2017, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
She had a brick on her bedside cabinet which she used.
If that isnt pre-meditated...............
They were trying to say he was a threat to her. She could easily say the brick was to protect herself. Equally with the drugs, it would be hard to say from where he got them/who made the drink/who added the drug.
I think it's fairly clear they were out to get him, but I think it's also fair to say that while you can infer stuff, it's hard to prove that.
Too many variables for 1st degree I suppose.
Justice served for the family in any case
In this case, justice might have been better served by dropping the pair of them off in Southill or Moyross, with placards around their necks.
Quote from: screenexile on August 10, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Was there no explanation of why?
It looks like he was planning to go back to Ireland without her.
So she stopped it.
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2017, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 10, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Was there no explanation of why?
It looks like he was planning to go back to Ireland without her.
So she stopped it.
She was the main beneficiary of the life insurance policy. He wanted to leave and go back to Ireland with the kids. It's not hard to infer that a divorce was coming, which would have affected the life insurance policy payout.
jaysus wouldn't it be great if more threads were like this. reasonable discussion.
carry on.
(ive just stopped the thread haven't I) :o
She allegedly wanted the kids also but he refused to let her adopt them.
The 'oul fella by accounts I have read is a bit of a tool.
Ex FBI who thought he was untouchable.
She wasnt the natural mother of the kids unless I am missing something?
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 02:42:43 PM
The 'oul fella by accounts I have read is a bit of a tool.
Ex FBI who thought he was untouchable.
She wasnt the natural mother of the kids unless I am missing something?
no. His first wife was . She died of an asthma Attack. Second wife was originally hired as a nanny
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2017, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 02:42:43 PM
The 'oul fella by accounts I have read is a bit of a tool.
Ex FBI who thought he was untouchable.
She wasnt the natural mother of the kids unless I am missing something?
no. His first wife was . She died of an asthma Attack. Second wife was originally hired as a nanny
Which was why I dont buy the line that he was leaving with the kids as the reason for them killing him.
While she would have had an attachment to them surely the lure of the $$$$$$ from the insurance company must have been the reason
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2017, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 02:42:43 PM
The 'oul fella by accounts I have read is a bit of a tool.
Ex FBI who thought he was untouchable.
She wasnt the natural mother of the kids unless I am missing something?
no. His first wife was . She died of an asthma Attack. Second wife was originally hired as a nanny
Which was why I dont buy the line that he was leaving with the kids as the reason for them killing him.
While she would have had an attachment to them surely the lure of the $$$$$$ from the insurance company must have been the reason
She didn't work. If he went back to Ireland he would have divorced her and left her and as no kids the maintenance would have been low. she might have lost the house. I don't think she acted rationally.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/the-two-sides-of-molly-martens-corbett-1.3181655
She comes across as a liar and a fantasist. Maybe the marriage was over. There was no love lost between her parents and the deceased. Maybe he had enough of her. Then the marriage gave her a status and a standard of living that she couldn't have on her own.
You would have to feel sorry for the poor kids
She was clearly a dingbat and might have some condition that she needs help with, but you'd have to wonder about her father.
With his FBI background, he should have been able to stage the crime scene a lot better to make it look more like self defence.
The forensics were fascinating and in a sense they gave Jason Corbett a voice in the trial.
Without them, it would have been easier for them to spin the self-defence yarn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-ZnGvBkgI
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 11, 2017, 11:02:27 AM
She was clearly a dingbat and might have some condition that she needs help with, but you'd have to wonder about her father.
With his FBI background, he should have been able to stage the crime scene a lot better to make it look more like self defence.
The forensics were fascinating and in a sense they gave Jason Corbett a voice in the trial.
Without them, it would have been easier for them to spin the self-defence yarn.
What did forensics show?
Quote from: trileacman on August 12, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 11, 2017, 11:02:27 AM
She was clearly a dingbat and might have some condition that she needs help with, but you'd have to wonder about her father.
With his FBI background, he should have been able to stage the crime scene a lot better to make it look more like self defence.
The forensics were fascinating and in a sense they gave Jason Corbett a voice in the trial.
Without them, it would have been easier for them to spin the self-defence yarn.
What did forensics show?
The blood marks show he was hit when he was on the floor.
The jury think he was hit when he was asleep.
He was hit after he was dead.
The 2 said they carried out CPR 400 times but they had no blood on their hands.
There were bits of his flesh in her hair
She said she was attacked but there was no sign of it.
This case has passed me by. Any good sites with an in depth background?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2017, 05:42:49 PM
This case has passed me by. Any good sites with an in depth background?
Loads about it on www.independent.ie
Video from ABC here, with a perspective more sympathetic to the wife
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/molly-martens-corbett-husband-controlling-possessive-part-49168726
Quote from: NetNitrate on August 12, 2017, 06:04:37 PM
Video from ABC here, with a perspective more sympathetic to the wife
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/molly-martens-corbett-husband-controlling-possessive-part-49168726
Of course she is an attractive white professional class woman. They could never plot to murder their husband. A nut job is what she looked like to me following the case.
Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2017, 05:42:49 PM
This case has passed me by. Any good sites with an in depth background?
Loads about it on www.independent.ie
Cheers.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/1102/1414384-martens-corbett-hearing/
Jason Corbett manslaughter hearing has been told by a medical expert that Mr Corbett's first wife Margaret did not die from asthma in Limerick in 2006.
Asked about claims made by two defence expert witness reports on the same material, which said it was possible Ms Corbett's death was due to homicide, Dr Nichols said it was possible.
Dr Nichols then listed a whole series of tests and checks that had not been recorded in the pathology report. He said: "We have nothing to indicate the cause of death of this woman."
He added that there was no information in the report to indicate any sign of choking or asphyxiation.
Dr Nicholls also rejected defence expert testimony on an alleged strangulation attempt on Molly Martens Corbett the night Mr Corbett was killed.
He said one of the experts had taken what is possible and made it into something plausibly probable without any basis in science.
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2023, 12:53:25 AMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/2023/1102/1414384-martens-corbett-hearing/
Jason Corbett manslaughter hearing has been told by a medical expert that Mr Corbett's first wife Margaret did not die from asthma in Limerick in 2006.
Asked about claims made by two defence expert witness reports on the same material, which said it was possible Ms Corbett's death was due to homicide, Dr Nichols said it was possible.
Dr Nichols then listed a whole series of tests and checks that had not been recorded in the pathology report. He said: "We have nothing to indicate the cause of death of this woman."
He added that there was no information in the report to indicate any sign of choking or asphyxiation.
Dr Nicholls also rejected defence expert testimony on an alleged strangulation attempt on Molly Martens Corbett the night Mr Corbett was killed.
He said one of the experts had taken what is possible and made it into something plausibly probable without any basis in science.
Family of Corbett's first wife criticise 'wildly inaccurate' claims - The family of Jason Corbett's first wife have said that suggestions that he had anything to do with her death are "wildly inaccurate and untrue".
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1104/1414619-corbett-family/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1104/1414619-corbett-family/)
A sad outcome for the Corbett family. Molly was clearly a fruitcake and very dangerous as it turned out, but unfortunately Jason couldn't give his version of events of what happened that night.
The dad is equally as conniving as her. No doubt he used his old FBI experience to locate professionals who could best conjure up bizarre theories to tarnish Jason.
She killed him because he was going to go back to Limerick with the kids . She didn't get the kids. She is the loser. Her reputation is destroyed.
Quote from: seafoid on November 09, 2023, 06:07:31 PMShe killed him because he was going to go back to Limerick with the kids . She didn't get the kids. She is the loser. Her reputation is destroyed.
While the jail punishment is very meagre, you would hope she is tortured by the consequences of her actions and how the kids she tried so hard to prise from their dad, now hate her.
Reading the accounts of the lies she spun the people all through her life, fake sisters, fake children, clearly she needed some sort of intervention. I wonder how much her WASP dad was misled by her lies?
This is the bizarre fucked up nature of the US justice system, had the killers been black though....
She lost her prime fertility years. She is tarnished. She may never have kids. That would be the ultimate judgement.
At least prison will be no picnic for an ex-FBI guy.
Have they not already the time pretty much served?