Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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PadraicHenryPearse

#195
October 09, 2023, 11:00:06 PM Last Edit: October 09, 2023, 11:06:14 PM by PadraicHenryPearse
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1711499431491535091?t=5OWE6VGhgOQz3EiTK5SbMQ&s=19

EU/UK/US sickening tolerance for murder/massacres within the 25 x 5 mile cage with 2 million Palestinians,
 1 million under 18 years old.. move a little outside that area and a completely different story.

and you wonder why resistance rise up against their occupier.

how many more Palestinians must be slaughter before they call for 'restraint'

Rossfan

#196
October 09, 2023, 11:01:01 PM
The EU is very disappointingly one sided on this issue.
The rush by some (right wing?) Commissioner to say they were cutting off humanitarian aid was appalling.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Armagh18

#197
October 09, 2023, 11:03:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 09, 2023, 11:01:01 PMThe EU is very disappointingly one sided on this issue.
The rush by some (right wing?) Commissioner to say they were cutting off humanitarian aid was appalling.
Shower of bastards.

Wildweasel74

#198
October 09, 2023, 11:05:53 PM
Padraig, no matter what you say, which is correct, excuses shooting up a music festival. Was the Omagh bomb a correct course of action to get back at a British state.?The,Israel state carry out these actions like the British state did, should we shoot any englander that comes along, with the Slogan, For Ireland!

PadraicHenryPearse

#199
October 09, 2023, 11:16:08 PM Last Edit: October 09, 2023, 11:24:58 PM by PadraicHenryPearse
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 09, 2023, 11:05:53 PMPadraig, no matter what you say, which is correct, excuses shooting up a music festival. Was the Omagh bomb a correct course of action to get back at a British state.?The,Israel state carry out these actions like the British state did, should we shoot any englander that comes along, with the Slogan, For Ireland!

Why are you on about the music festival? This didnt start with a music festival. Why are you not on about the countless atrocities committed by Israel that led to this moment. That is the cause, that should be the focus.  Nobody is looking to excuse anything.

less than 10 years ago, summer 2014 Israel was slaughtering on average 11 children a day.

irish academic twitter account https://twitter.com/SeanMac_R/status/1711497006856737243?t=StKV8i9Kj8MgTyE3XuvH2Q&s=19

Nelson Mandela https://twitter.com/PAFA_ngo/status/1711493703351611708?t=VfNtHYK7WBhpezWGgdZ7jA&s=19

Wildweasel74

#202
October 10, 2023, 12:34:14 AM
The Dup do realise the, Israelians, though in its infancy killed more British soldiers than the IRA, never understood the love in.

Armagh18

#203
October 10, 2023, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2023, 12:34:14 AMThe Dup do realise the, Israelians, though in its infancy killed more British soldiers than the IRA, never understood the love in.
Because our side supports Palestine they have to do the opposite...

Eamonnca1

#204
October 10, 2023, 05:02:40 AM Last Edit: October 10, 2023, 05:08:11 AM by Eamonnca1
This is no "bolt from the blue." Western media coverage always starts with the Hamas actions, never the ongoing occupation and the events that led up to it.

The music festival massacre and hostage-taking is horrifying, and will do nothing to build international support for the Palestinian cause. The sophistication of this operation leads me to wonder how much backing from Iran had to do with it. There's no way this could have been carried out purely with the resources available within Gaza. I also wonder how much American-style conservative thinking, and the fact-averse nature of it, led to the intelligence failure.

Tonight the Israeli authorities were openly stating they'll be cutting off water and electricity to Gaza. A war crime. If past form is anything to go by, they'll get away with it again. Israel's entire schtick is that it's some sort of respectable western democracy, but its hands are no cleaner than Hamas.

The innocents have paid and will pay a heavy price for this.

Armagh18

#205
October 10, 2023, 05:47:10 AM
How did Israel with their state of the art military not see this coming? Or did they need an excuse to justify totally wiping out the Palestinians?

seafoid

#206
October 10, 2023, 06:17:47 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2023/10/09/hamas-gave-israel-the-impression-that-it-was-not-ready-for-a-fight/



A commando unit attacked the Israeli army's southern Gaza headquarters and jammed its communications, preventing personnel from calling commanders or each other, the source said.

seafoid

#207
October 10, 2023, 06:18:57 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 09, 2023, 11:01:01 PMThe EU is very disappointingly one sided on this issue.
The rush by some (right wing?) Commissioner to say they were cutting off humanitarian aid was appalling.
Stupid
Cutting off aid will just radicalise people

ziggy90

#208
October 10, 2023, 07:06:46 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 10, 2023, 05:47:10 AMHow did Israel with their state of the art military not see this coming? Or did they need an excuse to justify totally wiping out the Palestinians?

This
Questions that shouldn't be asked shouldn't be answered

seafoid

#209
October 10, 2023, 07:40:11 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 10, 2023, 05:02:40 AMThis is no "bolt from the blue." Western media coverage always starts with the Hamas actions, never the ongoing occupation and the events that led up to it.

The music festival massacre and hostage-taking is horrifying, and will do nothing to build international support for the Palestinian cause. The sophistication of this operation leads me to wonder how much backing from Iran had to do with it. There's no way this could have been carried out purely with the resources available within Gaza. I also wonder how much American-style conservative thinking, and the fact-averse nature of it, led to the intelligence failure.

Tonight the Israeli authorities were openly stating they'll be cutting off water and electricity to Gaza. A war crime. If past form is anything to go by, they'll get away with it again. Israel's entire schtick is that it's some sort of respectable western democracy, but its hands are no cleaner than Hamas.

The innocents have paid and will pay a heavy price for this.
The West isn't going to help the Palestinians. There won't be a combined Liverpool and Maun Utd thread Brigade flying out any day soon,. The EU is hopelessly compromised because of the Holocaust and the EU has to have consensus to do anything.  Everyone in DC is afraid of the Jewish lobby. The British Labour party has been captured. People in the West are more likely to buy Israel's colonial narrative that the Palestinians are backward savages. And this is not our fight. 

The people who can drive change are the people of the Middle East. They are very familiar with Israel's cruelty because they see it all the time and they speak the same language as the people in Gaza. They know that the killing didn't start on Saturday. And they don't see the Palestinians as backward savages. Why would they?  The Palestinians are their people.

Israel is very like Prussia, the former warmongering German state on the Baltic . Its last outing in the Champions League was WW2. The Soviets destroyed East Prussia in 1945. The population was deported and the territory was split between Russia and Poland. Warmongers die sooner.


Israel has invaded Lebanon 7 times and murdered many thousands of Lebanese civilians. It has bombed Syria and Iraq countless times. It has bombed the shit out of Gaza 5 times in the last 15 years. Everyone in the Middle East from Morocco to the Afghan border knows this.  Most people in the region  hate the Israeli cruelty machine. Israel is also an easy enemy for venal regimes to point at . Most Arabs and Iranians don't speak English so they don't get all the Israeli propaganda.


Unless Israel changes radically, the bill will be presented at some point. And no quarter will be given.  That is how it rolls.
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