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Title: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 09, 2009, 09:24:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
There are so many variables at play when working out your optimal heart rate. As you are using a generic calculation for all people of your age you seem to fall outside the bell curve and can probably run at a faster pace than your calculation is telling.

If I was you I'd go for pace over heart rate - if you can find and maintain a comfortable pace (mph) for the duration of your 10k  then I would ignore the heart rate monitor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
As Tony said that's a pretty generic formula. It varies from person to person. There are ways to work out your max heart rate which are considerably more accurate.

http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/hrmax.php (http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/hrmax.php)

Look at that - it's a much better way of working it out.

Just going for runs is not the best way to get a 10k time down - it will only get you so far.

Three types of training will get you quicker...
1. Intervals (Reps of x minutes with a break in between with the measure being you should cover the same ground on the first as on the last)
2. Tempo runs (Basically this is fast running however only for a few miles. So at your pace you'd probably want to do ~3 mile in about 26 minutes or so)
3. LSR (Long Slow Runs which for 10ks should be ~70 minutes)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 09, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
this may also be relevant to my interests;

o'neill, while not actually answering your question, i did a quick google for a 10k training programme; the time to run website has a bit on it for 55min runners to get to sub 50 (the programme seemed a bit complicated, but im not as clever as you) ;)

also, looked at this one; http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/138.shtml - maybe useful for beginners like meself;

if i can hijack the thread for a mo'

what is the craic about training at the optimum bpm for weight loss; i just dont get it that by goin relatively easy on eg a cross trainer or treadmill for 20mins, your burnin more fat than if you push it a bit more
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 09:39:02 PM
I've read, though I'm no expert, that a lot of it is related to time so I suppose optimum BPM is to ensure you can exercise for longer.

Apparently for a period of time you'll burn only your "carbs" store and then after a further period of time you'll start burning your fat store.

Slower heart beat = longer training duration = more time in fat burn territory.

Only what I've read but I would reckon it to be true...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on June 09, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
My advice would be to forget about the science and just go out and enjoy the run. However..

1) Set a target time for half way and try to be quicker on the return.

2) Start noting your times.

3) Vary the runs, and the terrain.

4) Call over to the Cavehill and I'll race you up and over. Dont worry, my neighbour is a paramedic.

5) When you pass any women, hold your belly in, smile and breath easy.... till you get past them.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leenie on June 09, 2009, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Any runners out there?



(http://www.thosefunnypictures.com/resize.php?file=pictures/6518/Funny_Pictures_6518.jpg)


hardstation!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:59:31 PM
Have to admit that having the heart boyo on made my runs more comfortable. I was busting myself after 3 miles but this way, keeping the rate steady has made it more enjoyable.

Anyway, there's this this Saturday:

(http://www.dromore.info/images/stories/articles/funrun2009/1dromorefunrun13june2009.jpg)

http://www.dromore.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=125:dromore-10k-and-5k-fun-run&catid=39:sports&Itemid=91
Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 09, 2009, 10:54:15 PM
Isn't 60 % fat burning territory, aerobic training can go up to about 85 % of max heart rate, above that its seen as anerobic training (although both things occur in tandem truth be told).

If the goal is to get fitter and faster then don't be afraid to push it into the higher % rates.

Like someone else has mentioned, interval training can be very effective at raising fitness, its all great for mixing it up and prevent the running from becoming 'stale'. Another advantage is that it teaches you how to run faster, sounds silly but there is a technique to running fluently at speed, interval training will help you find your own tecnique.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gnevin on June 09, 2009, 11:02:56 PM
Lads I'm able fairly comfortably to run for 30 minutes in the gym covering about 4/5 km and then doing 5/6 on the bike in 15/20 minutes ,however I can't sprint for shite with out being  seriously out of breath . Any idea's why or how to improve this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 11:50:49 PM
Different kind of fitness... You're hitting 10 minute miles or so there so sprinting is a bit of a step up. Your lung capacity wouldn't be tested running long distances as opposed to sprinting.

To get better at sprinting you'd need to be doing shuttle drills etc I'd have thought. Mix up the training. Do short stuff, intervals etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 10, 2009, 12:04:22 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on June 09, 2009, 11:02:56 PM
Lads I'm able fairly comfortably to run for 30 minutes in the gym covering about 4/5 km and then doing 5/6 on the bike in 15/20 minutes ,however I can't sprint for shite with out being  seriously out of breath . Any idea's why or how to improve this?

Welcome to the club, if you aren't out of breath after sprinting then you aren't sprinting! There is all sorts of ways of improving sprinting the main one is to simply do more sprints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

I'd be the same but going by online advice everyone's max is different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on June 10, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

I'd be the same but going by online advice everyone's max is different.

do you not think 5 times a week is a bit much? I'd try to alternate between the days runnning with some non impact stuff, especially if your ruunning on roads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on June 10, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 10, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

No not really, you could happen to have a very high max heart rate (its at least 210 anyway), that 220 minus age is a v. v. general estimate. If you really want to find out what your max is try running up and down a hill until you are at 100 % and feel like you have nothing left in the tank to give whatsoever, the max reading you get from the heart rate monitor is you real max heart rate rather than some guesstimate (obviously you need to be healthy and reasonably fit before attempting something like that).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 05:43:21 PM
Thanks for that delboy. Im just running to lose a bit of weight at the minute, but would like to do a few 10k races later in the year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 10, 2009, 09:16:28 PM
Does running between the couch and fridge count?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 10, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 10, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.

No the frequency you are doing is grand, you should always have a day off, let the muscles recover. Rest is as important as the actual running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on June 10, 2009, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 10, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.

Nah I would do some weights or non impact stuff in between to avoid injury.

I would normally do something like this when I get the chance but not easy when your working away all the time.
Monday - Rest
Tuesday - Run
Wednesday - Weight Training/Swim or Cycle
Thursday - Run
Friday - Weight Training
Saturday - Long Run
Sunday - Swim or Cycle (sometimes both) to help loosen you up after Sat

Some people reckon you should have 2 days off, usually friday to prepare you for Sat but I like to do a couple of sessions of weights in a week, nothing too hectic though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2009, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
What sort of hrm do you have? Something like a Polar? Does it come with a chest strap or do you have to buy separately?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 16, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
anybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 16, 2009, 09:42:52 PM
Quoteanybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night

Nope, but if you are doing the half be prepared for torture.  It is the hilliest, toughest mother f**king run I ever completed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 12:30:09 AM
I've recently started doing triathlons, really enjoying them but my running is pathetic, 25 mins for 5k.

Seen as i play football i'm stuck for time to train, the gaa training is good for what its intended but brutal for running alone.

SO i do 3 other runs a week:
1. A long run, min 10k, nice slow pace, 6 min k's
2. A short run, usually half of run 1, i do them in individual k's, set a time for myself, so i'm trying to get to a 20min 5k, so i run 1k in 4 minutes, stop for 2 mins, 1k in 4 mins, and so on, the idea being that after a while of that i'll reduce the time and when i go to add all 5 together i'll be able to do it in 20
3. i go for a mountain run, dublin is great for these, theres one on every wed, somewhere between 6 & 10k, up and down, really good for strength work, as i tend to stay away from the weights during the summer with football. The mountain running is tough going but its good in that u can walk up if ur out of puff and no one bats an eyelid, and because its a race the competitive nature takes over and u leave it all there.

I'm starting to go for a half an hour swim at lunch, and hopefully 2 nites cycling, up to Johnny foxes and back, a 35k trip, with a serious hill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on June 17, 2009, 01:14:19 AM
My regime in the last 5/6 years:

Mon- Mountain Biking (varying lengths and degree of difficulty) stretching.
Tues- Circuit training, stretching.
Wed- Track, sprints, steps etc, then a heavy pyramid, stretching.
Thurs- heavy weights night then stretching.
Fri- Biking (same plan as Mon's)
Sat- off
Sun- Karate then 20 mile mountain bike ride in the headlands

Used to try to get to Judo on a Sat morning also (life & work permitting) till I got injured :'(
Work and pressure has me slowed up on the above for the past year though but still doing a bit
with the hope of getting back into it steady.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on June 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
25 mins for 5k is hardly pathetic is it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 08:47:37 AM
Quote from: naka on June 16, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
anybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night

Yes, thinking of having a stab at it. Would like to hit around 50mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The squinted eye on June 17, 2009, 10:09:45 AM
Statrted doing triathlons this year myself, I cant believe the numbers out doing them, becoming a very big sport in Ireland. Have you got the wet suit yet mayo4sam??  I find i cant swim in the pool at all any more since I got it, too boring. Awful easy to swim in the wet suit too,the legs hardly have to kick at all to keep balance with the lift
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 17, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
Started the triathlon training this year myself, Im sticking to the sprint events (750m Swim, 20k Cycle, 5k Run) as my swimming is still quite weak. Have to say Im really really enjoying it, although the training is fairly time consuming. But as squinted eye says, the numbers out doing it is unbelievable.

Anyway, doing my first one this weekend in Mulloughmore, so hopefully it goes well. Following that, I've registered for Ballina in July and Lough Key in September. Would be just delighted to complete 3 triathlons this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 17, 2009, 12:09:51 PM
hoping to hit 50 mins for the 10k myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[

illdecide will sort you out  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[

illdecide will sort you out  :D
His missus says he'd be more of a sprinter than a marathon man!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[

i have no problem helping you out with some stamina work if that would suit you.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2009, 03:30:01 PM
Sure she's made for stamina ziggy...oh sorry I mean BM

(http://rookery2.viary.com/storagev12/952000/952058_2ea4_625x1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[

i have no problem helping you out with some stamina work if that would suit you.  ;)
oh for the love of god how did i not realise before i posted that :D :D
BM wat age r ya ;)
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2009, 03:30:01 PM
Sure she's made for stamina ziggy...oh sorry I mean BM

(http://rookery2.viary.com/storagev12/952000/952058_2ea4_625x1000.jpg)
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
mannix i suppose it depends on a lot of things but i'm 30 & reasonably fit, i'd should be doing a 20 min 5k. Got the wetsuit alright, wiggle.co.uk is great. Am doing ballina as well steve, i've a few loads of turf that need bringing home if u have the time after, its on good & early. Did kilcock as the 1st, only learned how to swim since christmas so was kaking myself but it was grand, 500m. Then athy, 750m but in the river, easier & quicker. Doing lough ree as well, meant to be good for beginners. U should look out for gaelforce also, defo worth doing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 17, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
mannix i suppose it depends on a lot of things but i'm 30 & reasonably fit, i'd should be doing a 20 min 5k. Got the wetsuit alright, wiggle.co.uk is great. Am doing ballina as well steve, i've a few loads of turf that need bringing home if u have the time after, its on good & early. Did kilcock as the 1st, only learned how to swim since christmas so was kaking myself but it was grand, 500m. Then athy, 750m but in the river, easier & quicker. Doing lough ree as well, meant to be good for beginners. U should look out for gaelforce also, defo worth doing

good man mayo4sam, might see you in ballina. wont make any promises bout the turf though. got my wet suit from wiggle.co.uk also, brilliant website. went for the orca s2 suit, it said it was good for buoyancy so perfect for me ;) Like yourself i only took up the swimming around christmas so it's been a steep learning curve.

Gaelforce - is that the kayaking and mountain climbing business?? sounds like a challenge alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
Ran 20 minutes today and it nearly killed me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 17, 2009, 09:53:53 PM
I'm a regular long distance runner. The problem is, that it has slowed me down from running at speed. Has anyone any idea how to pick up the anti as regards speed or do they not go hand in hand. I really need it for  Hurling. I was thinking cutting out so many miles? Is this the way to go..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
25 mins for 5k is hardly pathetic is it?


Not sure, anyone answer this ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 10:25:05 PM
i meant it in context lads. I should have said for me. On the tris,i find the transition tough, v dizzy after the swim. BaT the trickis short quick runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Wee bit disappointed with the Lisburn 10k tonight. Did it in 56 mins. Was around 25mins for 5k and planned to step it up between 4 and 6 miles. At 4 miles stepped up to 8.5 mph and felt good. Hit the wall at 4.5 miles during a smallish hill climb. Slowed right down and never picked it up again. Also made the mistake at stopping at a water point for a swig. The last 1k was a feckin tragedy. Much work to do yet. Still want to break 50mins by the end of the summer.

Also made the mistake at starting towards the back of the field. It took a mile before you could run at a decent pace due to the amount of feckin grannies. Must've been over 2000 doing it.

You feel slightly better after you've had a drink and in your car when you see hordes still trying to finish it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
O'Neill fo you have some sort of speed/distance watch (not sure of the technical term) that tells you how fast or how far you have run ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 17, 2009, 09:53:53 PM
I'm a regular long distance runner. The problem is, that it has slowed me down from running at speed. Has anyone any idea how to pick up the anti as regards speed or do they not go hand in hand. I really need it for  Hurling. I was thinking cutting out so many miles? Is this the way to go..

start with Speed endurance for a few weeks.
Then full sprints, short sharp work
You should find yourself quicker after that.
PS Dolly in in my early to mid 20's   :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:40:42 PM
It's an app on the iphone called fitnio (you can see it on fitnio.com).

It tracks your run by gps and whilst running it tells you your distance, speed and time.
When you are finished it uploads the data onto the website and you can see a print out of your route, your split times for each mile, a graph of your average speed and inclines/declines, calories etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
Good excuse for an iphone then  :D

Sounds like a nifty application.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2009, 10:43:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Wee bit disappointed with the Lisburn 10k tonight. Did it in 56 mins. Was around 25mins for 5k and planned to step it up between 4 and 6 miles. At 4 miles stepped up to 8.5 mph and felt good. Hit the wall at 4.5 miles during a smallish hill climb. Slowed right down and never picked it up again. Also made the mistake at stopping at a water point for a swig. The last 1k was a feckin tragedy. Much work to do yet. Still want to break 50mins by the end of the summer.

Also made the mistake at starting towards the back of the field. It took a mile before you could run at a decent pace due to the amount of feckin grannies. Must've been over 2000 doing it.

You feel slightly better after you've had a drink and in your car when you see hordes still trying to finish it!
You're not far away O'Neill. Do you do any incline work in training? I'm gonna have to pull the finger out as I've a wedding suit to get into in 4 weeks!

Dunno if you replied but I was asking what sort of heart rate monitor you had?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
www.fitnio.com doesn't seem to work.

Going to try and become competent doing 5k runs in 20-25 3 times a week for next month then build it up to 10k runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:51:23 PM
No specific incline work - just really whatever hill I meet. Also, haven't done any interval stuff either. Not training enough really.

It's a boyo I strap around under my chest. It syncs itself up to a watch that comes with it. It simply tells you your heart rate when you run.

It's called a dsx heart rate monitor - http://www.shopwiki.co.uk/Dsx+Heart+Rate+Monitor?sb=1

I stole it out of school when the head of PE was in hospital.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
www.fitnio.com doesn't seem to work.

Going to try and become competent doing 5k runs in 20-25 3 times a week for next month then build it up to 10k runs.

Yes, the site seems to be down right now - hope it's not terminal.

http://www.perivision.net/wordpress/?p=464
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
Baile an tuaigh do intervals and they'll help you...

If you want to keep the distances up then do pyramid intervals - say for example 3 minutes fast, 2 minutes fast, 1 minute fast with a rest in between. If not just batter out 30 second or closeintervals.

I bought a garmin 405 recently. They're a great job but dear at £200. Got the HRM as well as I'm going to start using it for the long runs.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: The squinted eye on June 17, 2009, 11:42:53 PM
I did Nenagh triathlon, didnt find it too bad but I had borrowed a bike for the day so only used exercise bike till then. Had tried to run off the bike effects by doing "brick work"sessions (straight from the bike into run) but it still took me ages to get over the effects of the bike, legs were like lead even though I was feeling pretty good at that stage. I have only swam for about a year now, I got a swimming dvd called Total Immersion - Freestyle about 5 months ago and the swimming has come on in leaps and bounds since I got it. I am not noticably faster but i take way less strokes to get there so I can swim fairly long distances now and not be shagged after. Google it.............I got it on pirate bay, racing Tri Athlone next looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: The squinted eye on June 17, 2009, 11:42:53 PM
I did Nenagh triathlon, didnt find it too bad but I had borrowed a bike for the day so only used exercise bike till then. Had tried to run off the bike effects by doing "brick work"sessions (straight from the bike into run) but it still took me ages to get over the effects of the bike, legs were like lead even though I was feeling pretty good at that stage. I have only swam for about a year now, I got a swimming dvd called Total Immersion - Freestyle about 5 months ago and the swimming has come on in leaps and bounds since I got it. I am not noticably faster but i take way less strokes to get there so I can swim fairly long distances now and not be shagged after. Google it.............I got it on pirate bay, racing Tri Athlone next looking forward to it!

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 18, 2009, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!


what was your time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on June 18, 2009, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!


what was your time?

56 something. Shite enough but probably fair enough for what I'm doing. Need to step up the roadwork. Would like to break 50 by the end of the summer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 18, 2009, 01:38:18 PM
wouldnt worry about the web time, i had a watch which timed me at  just over 50 mins yet the web had me at just over 51 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
I wouldn't want to pee on anybody's parade and not in a situation where honest effort was made but are you talking about 10km or 10 miles in the time of 56 minutes?



Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 18, 2009, 03:39:51 PM
10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 18, 2009, 05:51:40 PM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.
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Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: jjjshabadoojnr on June 18, 2009, 05:51:40 PM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.

Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.


Time??? jaysus, im not really sure, really slow on the swim. If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Dont worry bout westerly wind, mulloughmore is well sheltered so expect a calm enough swim. Although they f**ked up the start times and the tide will be completely out, so you could be running for 200m in shallow waters at the start. At first i thought that would be good cos im a weak swimmer, but i tried running into the water during the week and it takes alot out of you. So if you see somebody taking a nice slow walk at the back of the group, that'll be me...

What sort of time do you think you'll get??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 19, 2009, 09:04:01 AM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: jjjshabadoojnr on June 18, 2009, 05:51:40 PM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.

Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.


Time??? jaysus, im not really sure, really slow on the swim. If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Dont worry bout westerly wind, mulloughmore is well sheltered so expect a calm enough swim. Although they f**ked up the start times and the tide will be completely out, so you could be running for 200m in shallow waters at the start. At first i thought that would be good cos im a weak swimmer, but i tried running into the water during the week and it takes alot out of you. So if you see somebody taking a nice slow walk at the back of the group, that'll be me...

What sort of time do you think you'll get??

Jesus I dont know what time to expect. Anywhere between 1.30 and 1.25. All very well doing good times training for the individual components, but different putting them togetehr. Takes serious amount of time for my legs to loosen up following the bike. Only hitting my natural stride near the last 2 k of the run. Can do 16 mins, 42 mins 21 mins on events individually but sure we will see. Would love to break the 1.25 mark.
Only live up the road from Mullagh and if the wind stays in the direction its going now the first half of the bike will be a complete bitch. Hope the weather changes form what we have this morning!! See the guy steamed in the pier head after the race , that il be me!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 20, 2009, 01:13:33 AM
I'd love to do that tri ^ (I've never done one before) but I'm a very poor swimmer, do they allow arm bands ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 20, 2009, 01:20:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2009, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on June 20, 2009, 01:13:33 AM
I'd love to do that tri ^ (I've never done one before) but I'm a very poor swimmer, do they allow arm bands ?
I asked the same question. They said, "Whatever floats your boat".

Excellent! The missus/blow-up doll is coming then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on June 20, 2009, 05:26:52 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 18, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
I wouldn't want to pee on anybody's parade and not in a situation where honest effort was made but are you talking about 10km or 10 miles in the time of 56 minutes?





What sort of a question is that......is it Monaghan or Mozambique you're from  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 21, 2009, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Well, I completed the course in 1hr 28mins (23 swim, 40 T1+Bike, 1.26 T2, 23 Run).
Absolutely delighted with that. The swim as expected was a disaster, but huge room for improvement.

How did you get on jjjshabadoo??

Great days craic and very well organised. Roll on Ballina in 3 weeks, which is an easier route so hopefully I can better my time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Steve-08 looks like we'll be in direction competition, u'll find the swim in Ballina way easier, with the current, i took 2 minutes off my time between kilcock and athy even though athy was 750m and kilcock was only 500m.

Dennisthemenace you'd be amazed the difference a wetsuit makes, in the sea you can stand up and do nothing and still float, its unbelievable, i'm not the best threader of water but its no bother with this
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:12:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Steve-08 looks like we'll be in direction competition, u'll find the swim in Ballina way easier, with the current, i took 2 minutes off my time between kilcock and athy even though athy was 750m and kilcock was only 500m.

ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;)  Hope your right about the swim, I thought I'd never get out of that pond in Mulloughmore. At one stage I think I was heading way out to sea.

Anyway, hopefully the ballina event is as enjoyable as mulloughmore. Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 11:16:44 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:12:56 PM


ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;) 

Be the only this year  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 11:16:44 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:12:56 PM


ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;) 

Be the only this year  ;D

:D :D
ah, dont throw in the towel just yet. I think yiz will give us a bit of a game in the connacht final  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on June 23, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
guys i would love to get my ass in gear and train for at least a half marathon (i feel a full marathon may be a bit much to start with). does either the dublin or belfast marathons offer a half marathon registration?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 23, 2009, 10:22:37 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on June 23, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
guys i would love to get my ass in gear and train for at least a half marathon (i feel a full marathon may be a bit much to start with). does either the dublin or belfast marathons offer a half marathon registration?
a good start is the armagh 10 mile which is towards the end of sept /early oct,
it takes place on a sunday morning  and th eroute takes you through the countryside close to navan fort
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 21, 2009, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Well, I completed the course in 1hr 28mins (23 swim, 40 T1+Bike, 1.26 T2, 23 Run).
Absolutely delighted with that. The swim as expected was a disaster, but huge room for improvement.

How did you get on jjjshabadoo??

Great days craic and very well organised. Roll on Ballina in 3 weeks, which is an easier route so hopefully I can better my time.

Jasus fair play stevo 08, you got on better than you expected. If you could get swim time down youd be flyin! I came in just ahead of ya, i thought i could hear hooves and flared nostrils coming up by the gatelodge. Got just under 1hr 27 mins. Swim 18 mins T1 and Bike 44,  Run 22.5. Nearly gave up on the swim. Got to first buoy feeling good , when I eventually looked up found out I had drifted off course by a good thirty metres  heading into shore!!! panic set in and started thrashing like a lunatic. Swallowed several mouthfulls of saltwater. Then managed to spend id say three minutes in transition, legs like jelly. Running out with me bike and marshal turned me back cause I forgot my Number belt!! Just wanted to give up there and then. Only started feeling good again about half way through the run. All in all very enjoyable experience!! Will know what to expect for the next one now. Hopefully wont let the nerves get the better of me and spend less time on the jacks before next one!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on June 26, 2009, 08:20:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.
If you look at the results you will see 2 times.  00:58:44 and 00:56:53. The first is the time from when the gun went, the second is the chip time recorded from when you crossed the start line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 26, 2009, 11:19:29 PM
Quote from: jjjshabadoojnr on June 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM

Jasus fair play stevo 08, you got on better than you expected. If you could get swim time down youd be flyin! I came in just ahead of ya, i thought i could hear hooves and flared nostrils coming up by the gatelodge. Got just under 1hr 27 mins. Swim 18 mins T1 and Bike 44,  Run 22.5. Nearly gave up on the swim. Got to first buoy feeling good , when I eventually looked up found out I had drifted off course by a good thirty metres  heading into shore!!! panic set in and started thrashing like a lunatic. Swallowed several mouthfulls of saltwater. Then managed to spend id say three minutes in transition, legs like jelly. Running out with me bike and marshal turned me back cause I forgot my Number belt!! Just wanted to give up there and then. Only started feeling good again about half way through the run. All in all very enjoyable experience!! Will know what to expect for the next one now. Hopefully wont let the nerves get the better of me and spend less time on the jacks before next one!!

Cheers for that, Yea was well delighted with the time. My goal for next year is to improve big time on the swim, no reason why I cant do that in under 20mins. I know how you felt about drifting off course - I kept doing that in all the training swims, so my plan for the tri was to look up every few strokes to make sure I was heading the right direction. But goggles fogged up and couldnt see a thing, I ended up stopping every few metres to make sure I wasnt miles off course. Nearly last out of the water but must have overtaken half the field on the bike, i just put the foot down.

Thats a very impressive time you got especially after the panic in the swim. Fair play.

As you say, with that bit of experience behind us we'll be much better prepared next year - and we'll rip the course apart  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2009, 01:57:55 PM
wet the goggles & then a little bit of spit, stops the fog
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2009, 02:11:13 PM
Lurganblue dublin has a half in september. I'm contemplating doing it if I'm injury free.

Belfast has no half. Larne and Omagh have half marathons close to the belfast one. Derry has one in september the week before dublin too. There's also an ards half marathon but I've heard scrabo may be on it so it's best avoided if that's the case... (Winning time 23 minutes for a 3k race up it which tels the story)

Check out this site for fixtures:
http://www.niathletics.org/ (http://www.niathletics.org/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 12, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
How'd u go yesterday steve? Was hoping for sub 1:20, so was more than a little disappointed with 1:27
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on July 12, 2009, 05:58:35 PM
Was very happy Mayo4Sam, did it in 1:21 dead - swim 15:22, cycle 37:43, run 24:50. Although the official time had me down as 1:28 - Myself & my wife wanted to do the event together but we were in different waves. So i decided to start in wave 2 instead of wave 1. It messed up my official time but didnt matter as it meant that we crossed the finish line together, which was just great.

great day and well organised. blessed with the weather. i was marshalling at the all ireland metal man triathlon in rosses point this morning and didnt envy the athletes - absolutely horrendous conditions for the 1500m swim.

1:27 is still a very good time M4S, although i can understand your disappointed if you were aiming for an impressive sub 1:20. The cycle out to bonniconlon was tough, and i was also very disappointed with my run time - i thought we ran at a good pace so was surprised when I saw my time as 24:50. Maybe it's longer that 5k, i dont know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on July 14, 2009, 05:35:46 PM
I have been clocking up the miles in the past month to 6 weeks and was interested in entering a 10k race pretty soon. Does anyone know of any races coming up during the summer that I could enter? Have tried searching the net for upcoming races but couldn't find many for Northern Ireland. I did see Cookstown have a half marathon at the end of this month but that will probably come too soon for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
I suppose it depends on the area you're from but there  seems to be things like crawsfordsburn trail race, a 10k in downpatrick and a few 5 milers about the place.

You've two options for fixtures:
1. niathletics http://www.niathletics.org/opencontent/default.asp?itemId=15 (http://www.niathletics.org/opencontent/default.asp?itemId=15)
2. nimra (not for the faint hearted) http://www.nimra.org.uk/calendar.asp (http://www.nimra.org.uk/calendar.asp) (snowdown international is coming up...)

I'm not sure there'd be many races on, apart from maybe in local summer festivals or the like, which aren't on these calendars.

The summer from July on can be quiet enough.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Quagmire on July 14, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
There's a half marathon and 10km fun run on in Derry on the 12th Sept Tyroneboi, there was chat about it in work the other day. I think the details are on the City website, I don't know the address but there's always google for that if you were interested?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: sam03/05 on July 14, 2009, 09:31:53 PM

http://cookstownhalfmarathon.co.uk/default.aspx

cookstown half marathon 26th july
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on July 14, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: Quagmire on July 14, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
There's a half marathon and 10km fun run on in Derry on the 12th Sept Tyroneboi, there was chat about it in work the other day. I think the details are on the City website, I don't know the address but there's always google for that if you were interested?

Thanks for that. Might enter that one or else the Dublin Half Marathon which is two weeks after the Waterside run. Think having a race to focus on will be better because it can be quite tough to get out running in the evenings after coming in from work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Quagmire on July 14, 2009, 11:33:50 PM
I know what you mean, I find running very tedious if you're just doing it for the sake of it. You need the focus. Good luck with it anyway!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 15, 2009, 12:50:36 AM
Details hardstation you big tease.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 22, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
lads/lassies; back to this oul heart rate thingy;

used it today for the first time at gym; goin by the figures to be in the fat burnin zone my heart rate neded to stay round the high 120's; when i started in no time at all, i had to lower the speed on the treadmill to round 7.5kph; now im by no means a fitness fanatic (6ft, 15st, 36yrs old) but i can comfortably run round the old 12kph mark, getting up to 13kph for round 15,20 mins once ive done a week or two (7.5-8min miles approx);

basically am i getting the figures wrong? It seemed wile slow to be at when im used to pushin it a bit more than this; did 20mins on the bike then too, also goin a fair bit slower than usual.  Am i on the right tracks?  fat loss is my initial goal, ill happily take things outside once ive a stone off;

feedback,comments please :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2009, 09:58:49 PM
I think that everyone's maximum bpm is different, so you might be a bit higher than that. My running bpm was around 160 2 months ago (170 when stepping it up a bit). Now it's around 145-150. It seems the fitter I get the lower my average bpm. In saying that, ran for the first time tonight in over a fortnight and had a cardiac arrest after 2 miles. You can fairly lose it in a short space of time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on July 22, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
Has anyone ever suffered from heel spurs? I assume I have got this from mountain running/walking over the last 6 months. I haven't had a proper diagnosis yet, will probably get to see a doctor next week. Just wondering how to get rid of the pain in the meantime.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 22, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
cheers o'neill; would agree with the losin it quickly theory; hadnt been in a week or two;
i would anticipate bein able to run a bit faster at this bpm in a week or two, but would guess it would still be a fair bit short of what i can do when i feel i am pushin myself;

like i say, burnin fat is my main goal at present; should i stick with the slow (v slow) runs in the meantime, or just keep pushing things to my limits?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on July 23, 2009, 01:45:11 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 22, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
cheers o'neill; would agree with the losin it quickly theory; hadnt been in a week or two;
i would anticipate bein able to run a bit faster at this bpm in a week or two, but would guess it would still be a fair bit short of what i can do when i feel i am pushin myself;

like i say, burnin fat is my main goal at present; should i stick with the slow (v slow) runs in the meantime, or just keep pushing things to my limits?

You'll have to vamp up that pace a bit for fat burning purposes, 120 bpm won't get it done.
As O'Neill says, everyone's max will be different but for your age and weight 120 is quite low
With the calculation i use i have you at between 128 and 147 approx 70-80% of you max
on day's you want to go longer distances take the pace down a bit and vice versa.
Getting yourself into the hills (cross country) when you feel ready will take the weight off
fairly quickly.. or get the auld ten speed out of course and alternate your workouts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
any of you lads doing gaelforce this year?
Title: Tyrones own
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 23, 2009, 02:13:10 PM
Tyrones Own, thanks for this;

i used a calculation 207 - 0.7times my age(36) which equalled 182, then 70% of this was 127.4; is this not correct?

i'd love to push it a bit faster, and can do so; just curious as to the whole science of it that by goin at a pretty slow rate, i was burning fat (then the fitness part could come when the fat was "gone")

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
Trevor heel spurs sound to be like plantar fiscalis...

I assume you have problems with the base of your feet? The best way to treat this is to get a tennis ball and when you're watching tv or whatever take your shoes off and roll the tennis ball about with the painful part of your foot. I had mild plantar fiscalis and got rid of it myself by doing this while still training.

The heart rate thing is hard to stick to. I would read runners world a lot and there is a section on it about what heart rate training you should be doing. There are many varying theories on it. The one I read which someone had used, had theory behind and worked was 180 - your age. If you're unfit take away 5, if you're reasonably fit leave as is and if you're very fit add 5.

I find it very hard training under a heart rate of 150.

What's gael force?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on July 23, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
Quotei used a calculation 207 - 0.7times my age(36) which equalled 182, then 70% of this was 127.4; is this not correct?

Yes that is correct although I use the 220 instead of the 207.

Quotei'd love to push it a bit faster, and can do so; just curious as to the whole science of it that by goin at a pretty slow rate, i was burning fat (then the fitness part could come when the fat was "gone")

No in my opinion it's the opposite, running at around the 120 BPM pace will through time build
a degree of fitness alright but to get the kind of results you're looking for it comes down to the
old "no pain no gain" deal I'm afraid.
You don't sound like you're unfit at all so don't be afraid to step it up a bit, see how you feel.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 06:10:44 PM
Lads

can anyone recommend any suitable footwear for a bitta road running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on July 23, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 06:10:44 PM
Lads

can anyone recommend any suitable footwear for a bitta road running?

Asics gel kinsei 2s
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
There are 3 types of trainer:

neutral - for those who don't overpronate
stability - for mild over-pronators
motion control - for extreme over pronators

check which one of these you are and then asics or mizuno are usually your best bet. running shops like up and running will determine this by doing a gait analysis.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
There are 3 types of trainer:

neutral - for those who don't overpronate
stability - for mild over-pronators
motion control - for extreme over pronators

check which one of these you are and then asics or mizuno are usually your best bet. running shops like up and running will determine this by doing a gait analysis.

i under pronate, what would you recommend for this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
Neutral are recommended. (Just looked on google) Under pronation is called suprination I think...

I use asics. Just bought a pair of gel cumulus 11 of start fitness.

It's the cheapest place about for running stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 24, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
Neutral are recommended. (Just looked on google) Under pronation is called suprination I think...

I use asics. Just bought a pair of gel cumulus 11 of start fitness.

It's the cheapest place about for running stuff.

Cheers mo chara
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2009, 03:10:28 PM
So any of u doing gael force? Www.gaelforcewest.ie Only 2 weeks away now & really looking forward to it, hoping to knock 20 mins off last yrs time & go sub 5 hrs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 03, 2009, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
Trevor heel spurs sound to be like plantar fiscalis...

I assume you have problems with the base of your feet? The best way to treat this is to get a tennis ball and when you're watching tv or whatever take your shoes off and roll the tennis ball about with the painful part of your foot. I had mild plantar fiscalis and got rid of it myself by doing this while still training.

Tried using the tennis ball and although it eased the pain somewhat it came back after any prolonged running. Finally gave in and went to a doctor who after a course of anti-inflammatorys has given me an injection of steroids into my heel. Its agony at the minute, but hopefully this will cure it.
Looking forward to some light running next week, after I have been to the podiatrist.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 20, 2009, 11:10:26 PM

Wonder has anybody had a ganglion[cyst] removed from a foot? Just wondering about recovery and stuff. Have been doing serious running -for me- and I would nt like a long lay-off. It s on my right instep where I had a metatarsal break and its been there years but is getting progressively worse. Now about the size of a big grape. I cant kick anything heavier than a balloon which is a bitch cause the 5-a-side is gone and I cant even kick about with the kids. Thankfully it does nt bother me running. Yet anyway.  But I may be on borrowed time there too as the extra training seems to be making it bigger. Should I leave well-enough alone?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 20, 2009, 11:10:26 PM
Should I leave well-enough alone?

Get it looked at. It wont get better on its own.

I had my first good run planned for yesterday after a long lay off. Did everything right, plenty of stretching beforehand, chaged my route so I ran downhill first to loosen up the legs, everything was going well until I twisted my ankle. Looks like at least another 2 weeks off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 20, 2009, 11:10:26 PM
Should I leave well-enough alone?

Get it looked at. It wont get better on its own.

I had my first good run planned for yesterday after a long lay off. Did everything right, plenty of stretching beforehand, chaged my route so I ran downhill first to loosen up the legs, everything was going well until I twisted my ankle. Looks like at least another 2 weeks off.

Twisted ankle? That's noting to do with warm up etc. That's just stupidity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
That's a tad harsh Orior...

How did you twist it running? Were you running off-road?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 09:17:29 PM
Yes, I run through a forest. I used to start at the bottom and run up, but I developed plantar fasciitis, apparently I wasn't stretching enough, so I changed my route and went downhill first, so I was well loosened up for the uphill part of the run. Everything was going fine until a rabbit ran out in front of me. It isn't as bad as I feared yesterday, but its a kick in the teeth after being out for a couple of months.
I hate running on the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:27:32 PM
I would say that you shouldnt be running at a speed which is outside your ability to control motion. The fitter and stronger you are, then the quicker you can run.

For example, I would unfit people slip and hurt themselves on ice more often that fit people.

That said, it is a bit unfortunate when a rabbit jumps out, and I assume, you momentarily loose concentration.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Would plantar fiscalis not come from more of a biomechanical problem than a lack of stretching?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
A mile.

Yet to break 7.30 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 10:11:34 PM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Would plantar fiscalis not come from more of a biomechanical problem than a lack of stretching?

We think it is caused by a very tight calf muscle in my case, though that may be a sypmtom of something else, possibly lower back pain.
I have been stretching 3 or 4 times a day over the last 3 weeks and it has improved immeasurably. I have also changed my route to allow my legs to loosen up even more before running uphill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 11:05:09 PM
1 mile: 4:51

5k: 18:12

5 mile: 32:25 (1 done when unfit so wouldn't read too much into it)

10k: 39 dead

Favourite distance 10k.

Nothing to rival Orior's there but 39 will be beat in 10k soon and half marathons and full marathons to be done next year...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on October 26, 2009, 12:55:41 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 25, 2009, 10:11:34 PM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(

Thats serious going Orior, that 10k time. Doing my first race in two weeks, a local 10k and aiming to beat 50 mins for it. Could be a struggle but really getting the running bug I must admit. And harder to get injured than football, especially when I pull something practically every time I kick the ball  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 26, 2009, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 25, 2009, 10:11:34 PM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(

Orior that was some pounding to run a marathon in that time. Belfast is very hilly as well which makes your 3 hr 15 mins even more impresive. If that was a down hill course you might have beat the 3 hr mark. Ran Chicago two weeks ago as a bandit. Very enjoyable marathon but not one for a PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
Those were in my harrier days, after I gave up the football (or rather it gave me up).

I was doing 40-60 mile a week. I cycled to work and did a 6 or 8 training run at lunch time. Then I joined County Antrim harriers, and would train with them one night a week, and cross country on a Saturday. Managed it all for two years then got injured and never recovered.

Nowadays I can only manage 3 mile in 24 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
must have been a bad injury orior to have not come back from? Did you get gang raped on a forest run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2009, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
must have been a bad injury orior to have not come back from? Did you get gang raped on a forest run?


Yes and yes. (A type of stress fracture, and I got married)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 02:59:42 PM
You do any running skull? I think I may have spotted you at a few races if I have your identity right...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 26, 2009, 03:47:43 PM
That's my mission now. Probably end in tears but going to find out how fast I can possibly do a 1-miler, with a mid-30s body ravished with stout and fries.

So 6mph = 10 mins
12 mph = 5 mins
9mph = 7.5 mins

I cannot see myself breaking 7, ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on October 26, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
O'Neill -  8mph = 7.5 mins a mile.

It's all down to practice unfortunately, and lots of it. I'm as slow as any man who ever walked a football field but can get down to 6.5 min miles for 3-4 miles when I put my mind and body to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 26, 2009, 03:57:23 PM
Sorry, so 9mph = 6.5 min, 8.6 = 7?

Will try 8.6 tomorrow (treadmill) and she how far I get without keeling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 25, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
0.5mm
14.32 secs.

Hardtation this is a question about running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 26, 2009, 04:16:07 PM
I ll try to put these times in some sort of context. I never ran a race until this year until I wound back my involvement in football. Mid forties and I drink too much and still smoke a bit as well.

10k 46.40
4 miles 28.50
half-marathon 1hr 53 - I calved badly at the end of that one. Had only done 10 miles in training.
I m jacking the fags and aiming to improve those times. I know now I ll have to do a marathon. A year ago that would have seemed less likely than a trip to the moon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
21 years ago I ran a 5 mile road race in just under 30 minutes.

Now I would need cardiac massage after 30 metres.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bcarrier on October 26, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
Moysider your times are good ...running your age for 10k is a good target. I am waiting until I am 50 :).

My running career peaked at U-8 level.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...

Not according to this article tommy

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 09:15:45 PM
Is that not sprinting though skull? I wouldn't be sure you could apply that theory to longer distances...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on October 26, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
Jaysus Moysider those times put me to shame! Me in my 20s and trying to break 50mins for a 10k and you breaking it with ease! Must be something in the water on the Moy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...

Not according to this article tommy

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance)

Wrong article sorry

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0004.htm (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0004.htm)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2009, 12:23:41 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on October 26, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
Jaysus Moysider those times put me to shame! Me in my 20s and trying to break 50mins for a 10k and you breaking it with ease! Must be something in the water on the Moy!

I have to improve Sniper. The missus did the marathon comfortably in under 4 hours today and a neighbour who is 68 did it in 3.53.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2009, 01:16:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 25, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
0.5mm
14.32 secs.

That your erection or penetration time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Tempo and intervals are both forms of speedwork though Skull.

I'd say you'd likely cover as much, possibly more, ground in the intervals.

I find intervals only get you so far, well me anyway, without the long runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 04:58:54 PM
A friend of mine found that doing a session of sprints builds up your endurance faster than long distance ever would:

Find a pitch or 100m track.
Sprint 100, jog back, sprint 150, jog back and repeat as much as you can. He then ends up in doing a slow run for about 1k and resting. I knoiw this works for him because he won himself a 10k race by near 8 minutes the other week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)
Ah I suppose yeah well he was 20/21 in training and did it in about 35minutes. I think I may be setting too hard a training but I've heard it done before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 27, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)

Skull this guy has form.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on November 03, 2009, 09:18:52 PM
It'll be no bother to you sniper. The two easiest road runs I've ever done in my life were legs of the Belfast Marathon. You've always got something to aim at, whether it be a distance marker, a landmark, or a person in the distance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
I wont pretend to know much about running, but i've did 2 10ks in the last while, one in just over 42 m, and that bastard of a westlink run in 43 and 1/2.

I didnt do that much specific training for them, was playing football, but did a few 5m road runs. I also did a few runs on the treadmill, and I found that I was generally a good bit slower on the treadmill - I think because whereas on the road you can pace yourself better, you're gonna hold yourself back a bit on the treadmill because you want to stay at the same pace for the duration, and dont want to have to stop.

The thinking for my training was just to do the distance, or close to it from the start, and then worry about bringing the time down.

I wouldnt worry too much about the treadmill run. I reckon that you should be well able to do the actual 10k in under 50 min, especially with the adrenalin of the day, and also running beside people. Just dont go off too fast!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 03, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you can do 10k on the threadmill, then 10k on the road would be no bother. The threadmill is the most boring of boring things... ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 03, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you can do 10k on the threadmill, then 10k on the road would be no bother. The threadmill is the most boring of boring things... ever.

try running along that f**king westlink...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 10:21:03 PM
Cheers lads. The help is greatly appreciated. I'm shattered now after the 10k in the gym but hugely encouraged now after reading yer comments! I'll give it a go I think and see what happens. The mental battle will be the biggest obstacle for me. Need to start concentrating on that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2009, 10:34:57 PM
It is much easier in a race. People will carry you along and you'll have targets etc. so if you can do it on treadmill I'd be pretty sure you could run it.

I did the Westlink 5k - couldn't stomach 10k of it... Strange feeling running along a 3 or 4 lane motorway on your own. Actually finished 4th in it but there weren't too many in it. One guy appeared out of nowhere - still reckon he cheated and I was top 3 really...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 03, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2009, 10:34:57 PM
It is much easier in a race. People will carry you along and you'll have targets etc. so if you can do it on treadmill I'd be pretty sure you could run it.

I did the Westlink 5k - couldn't stomach 10k of it... Strange feeling running along a 3 or 4 lane motorway on your own. Actually finished 4th in it but there weren't too many in it. One guy appeared out of nowhere - still reckon he cheated and I was top 3 really...

Careful - he might be looking over your shoulder now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 10:40:26 PM
thats good going tommy, what time was that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
The 5k was short. It was sub 18 I did but on a measured course my best is 18:12.

There genuinely wasn't very many in it - not as big an achievement as it sounds!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 02, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
My boss at home has really taken up running...

Without reading back through this can anyone recommend some decent accessories that one could buy for Christmas?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Canalman on December 02, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Tip for jogging (which I hate anyway) is to jog away from home until you are shagged, then jog home after a short break (you have no option). Great way of motivating yourself if (like me) that is a problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Caid on December 02, 2009, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 02, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
can anyone recommend some decent accessories that one could buy for Christmas?

Cuff links
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
Nice race in calry outside sligo town on Saturday at 12pm if anyone is interested. 6km with a bit of a twist, no watches and you predict your time before the race and the person who finishes closest to their prediction wins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 02, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: Canalman on December 02, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Tip for jogging (which I hate anyway) is to jog away from home until you are shagged, then jog home after a short break (you have no option). Great way of motivating yourself if (like me) that is a problem.

The last time I did that I got a taxi home and swore I'd never jog again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 13, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
For anybody about the area this weekend that have been doing a bit of training.

The first ever River Moy Half Marathon takes place this Sunday in Ballina. It s a grand course and if weather conditions are reasonable it should n't be too difficult. In fact times should be very good. For slower runners there s plenty of scenery to look at. There are some seriously nice views and a mile or more through a forest pathway. A lot of the runners will be novices.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
Back to the running again - have this app for the phone and the blade on it talks to you regarding pace, time, distance and all that. However, you need earphones to hear her and any earphones I use seem to just fall out. I mightn't have any earlobes. Can anyone recommend earphones for running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:35:57 AM
And nothing like this:

(http://justyouraveragejoggler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/031307-headphones.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2010, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
Back to the running again - have this app for the phone and the blade on it talks to you regarding pace, time, distance and all that. However, you need earphones to hear her and any earphones I use seem to just fall out. I mightn't have any earlobes. Can anyone recommend earphones for running?
Think this very topic was covered in The Sunday Times In Gear supplement 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
Good stuff - have that somewhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on July 13, 2010, 09:02:02 AM
Started training for the Dublin marathon a couple of months ago and had the same problem. I eventually got a good set of earphones from hmv. They're made by skullcandy and loop over your ear. They don't move a bit.

What app did you get?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 09:12:34 AM
Runmeter - http://www.abvio.com/runmeter/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 13, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
The running shop in belfast has earphones that hang over the ears. I use them for cycling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on July 13, 2010, 09:56:21 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX80SPORT-ECO-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B001IKKDL2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279054490&sr=1-4

Have the older version of these, and are by far the best sports headphones I have bought
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 13, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: wanderer on July 13, 2010, 09:56:21 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX80SPORT-ECO-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B001IKKDL2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279054490&sr=1-4

Have the older version of these, and are by far the best sports headphones I have bought

Yes, they're great for cycling too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 13, 2010, 10:16:56 PM
moysider, were u involved in the ballina tri organization?
Brutal day for it, it was torrential during the cycle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Galwaybhoy on July 13, 2010, 10:32:30 PM
Used to do a bit of running and swimming to keep myself fit but then started Tag Rugby which put an end to that.  As thats ending soon I'll be taking it up again.  Theres an 8k run in Galway next month and I have never took part in any sort of run so I'm thinking of doing that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2010, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
Good stuff - have that somewhere.
In case you lost it I hoked it out.

Best buy were Sony MDR-AS50G (£26) - says they are very good but fragile so aren't to be bucked into a kitbag, you'll need to keep them in their case.

Joint second are 1. Adidas Sennheiser PMX 680 Sports (£45) -  despite some problems these remain the choice for a long, wet winter of marathon training. Problems are foam covers on the ear pads which won't last and the fact that the pads are slightly big.

2. Philips SHS8100/10 (£25) which has best sound quality and noise insulation of those on test. Let down by lack of clothing cable clip and no divide to allow option of shorter link to biceps belt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 11:20:01 PM
Thanks for that - the young lad had torn it to shreds.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:34:30 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 13, 2010, 10:16:56 PM
moysider, were u involved in the ballina tri organization?
Brutal day for it, it was torrential during the cycle

No, I was n't. Bad day for it alright. Unfortunately my swimming isn't up to taking part either. Might work on that because I d love to do it. Sounds like you were in it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EagleLord on July 14, 2010, 08:25:24 AM
I love to run round the roads, I find it a great stress reliever, but I also just enjoy it anyway. Hard to beat a nice day, plug in the ipod and away on ye go. I often like to just not know where I'm going, I just keep running and taking whatever road I see, did that one day and checked the clock when I came back in, was away for about an hour and 45. Watched 'Without Limits' yesterday too btw, great film if any of you havent seen it before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mario on July 14, 2010, 09:22:56 AM
Does anyone else get a sore lower back when they run on the roads, I also used to get a pain around my knees but the running shoes have sorted that out. I don't know what it is, i never get it running on grass. Often it stops me running as far as I would like too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on July 14, 2010, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 14, 2010, 09:22:56 AM
Does anyone else get a sore lower back when they run on the roads, I also used to get a pain around my knees but the running shoes have sorted that out. I don't know what it is, i never get it running on grass. Often it stops me running as far as I would like too.

It may sound basic, but it might be your running stance. If you run slightly leaning forward with your forearms more than 90 degrees from your upperarms it might ease off. I had the same sequence of niggles that you describe an thats what works for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Stretch your back(obviously) and hamstrings out. A lot of lower back problems stem from the hamstrings.

Make sure your trainers have appropriate support for your GAIT too... (check if you pronate or not and get the right shoes accordingly).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 15, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
@Mario, I have similar probs, for me it's my core muscles not being strong enough & hammers over compensate. A good physio will give u simple exercises for the core & it should sort it out.

@ moysider, I only ask cause the cycle route was put on map my cycle by "moysider".
I did it alright, enjoyed the rain on the bike. Imploded on the run, bad shin splints, had to walk it, disaster
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2010, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 15, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
@Mario, I have similar probs, for me it's my core muscles not being strong enough & hammers over compensate. A good physio will give u simple exercises for the core & it should sort it out.

@ moysider, I only ask cause the cycle route was put on map my cycle by "moysider".
I did it alright, enjoyed the rain on the bike. Imploded on the run, bad shin splints, had to walk it, disaster

Ah yeah, forgot about that. Used my garmin to plot out the run route about 6 weeks ago for them. Didn't do anything for the cycle though. Running off the bike is a bastard though. A lot struggled on the run. I find that a lot of the triathletes dont like running much and would much prefer the bike and swimming. Some did great training for the run. Repeats of cycling to Killala road and back to the track and running 800 metres on the track. Only way to get used to the wobbly legs. First time I tried running off a bike I almost ran into a tree in the woods :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on July 15, 2010, 02:12:23 PM
I get an awful sore sole on my right foot only after long runs of say 10 miles. The pain is terrible for the rest of the day but then gone the next morning. I own a good pair of running shoes but I take it my foot is wonkey :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on July 15, 2010, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 14, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Stretch your back(obviously) and hamstrings out. A lot of lower back problems stem from the hamstrings.

Make sure your trainers have appropriate support for your GAIT too... (check if you pronate or not and get the right shoes accordingly).

For the past four years I've been bothered with lower back pain.  It only goes after a bit of cycling to initially warm up the hammys, gluts and lower back.  This week I started running again and have done two 5km runs so far and the back is great.  Also agree that shoes are vital. I use Mizuno Alchemy.  They were expensive but definitely worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 16, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
I find it worse after the swim, I'd be falling down with dizziness!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
anyone have a running belt to hold a little water and gels etc? any good recommendations of which ones are best.  for the last few months i've been carrying a bottle of water around with me but it starts to wear on you a bit when doing longer distances
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2010, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
anyone have a running belt to hold a little water and gels etc? any good recommendations of which ones are best.  for the last few months i've been carrying a bottle of water around with me but it starts to wear on you a bit when doing longer distances
You need one of these chaps...

http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=5319 (http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=5319)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:27:08 PM
No way am I wearing one of them things Tony  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 17, 2010, 07:16:18 PM
Anyone doing gaelforce this weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on August 17, 2010, 11:21:32 PM
Does anyone use one of those Nike+ sensors with the iPod or iPhone? I play indoor and would like to find out how far I'm running each time. Can the sensor record the distance I've ran without being in close proximity to the iPhone?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
Interesting article In Tribune today

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 12, 2010, 11:11:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 12, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
Interesting article In Tribune today

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
What happened the Reebok Pump?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
(http://www.415photo.com/reebok_pump2.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:03:01 PM
I'm going to start running...now, considering I haven't ran anywhere in years how would you boys suggest starting off...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
How over weight are you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2010, 11:06:50 PM
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html)

I don't know your current fitness level...

A walk jog program like the above is probably a good start if you aren't fit. If you are fit starting off with slow running for ~20 minutes a time would be a good start. Doing this a few times a week then building up time and pace will build with time etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 14, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
How over weight are you?
Very sensitive question! I could lose a couple of stone like but I do cycle about 7ish mile a day - 5 days a week so I'm not too unfit.  Though that's a whole different muscle group.

thanks tommy - think walk programme would be good start off
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:21:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Hey I didnt fall off it - there was just a bit of a collision...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:38:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:21:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Hey I didnt fall off it - there was just a bit of a collision...
Ah right......I just thought we stopped falling off our bikes...oops I mean having
collisions when we were 7  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on December 30, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs

On a related point, Runkeeper Pro, usually £5.99, is free until the end of January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on December 30, 2010, 09:41:49 PM
MyTracks on the Android is free - only gives distance, avg speed etc though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 30, 2010, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs

Get one of these yokes...shoulda bought it a long time ago, mighty job altogether!

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-Waterproof-Running/dp/B0025VKW5K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293748369&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 10:50:22 PM
I've a Garmin 405.

There are a few new ranges out now - 310, 410 etc Things I keep track of are heart rate, distance, time on feet and current pace. All easily accessible on a garmin.

The 405 is awful with water though - it has a bezel that needs locked or it just keeps scrolling and beeping. The news ones should be better.

I've a training diary on fetcheveryone too. Very useful for keeping track / looking back on when you race to see how to improve.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 30, 2010, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 10:50:22 PM
I've a Garmin 405.

There are a few new ranges out now - 310, 410 etc Things I keep track of are heart rate, distance, time on feet and current pace. All easily accessible on a garmin.

The 405 is awful with water though - it has a bezel that needs locked or it just keeps scrolling and beeping. The news ones should be better.

I've a training diary on fetcheveryone too. Very useful for keeping track / looking back on when you race to see how to improve.
There were a lot of complaints about the bezel on the 405 and that's the reason I went with the 310 XT and it's water proof, kinda designed for triathlons.
Why do you not use Garmins own software for keeping tabs on your progress...I think it's great!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 11:06:54 PM
Fetcheveryone, I find, is a very simple interface for the training diary and is pretty nifty to use.

All I want is average HR, pace / mile and distance for each run which fetch has. It summarises all this very well. Also a very useful feature on it is you put in what shoes you did the run in and it records this. Useful as most trainers only have ~500 mile in them so a good indicator of when to change.

Garmin connect has loads of bells and whistles but I wouldn't use the half of them. It's very good no doubt.

I was just reading the 410 bezel is much better. I'm contemplating upgrading. However it's £330 on amazon! 260 on a GPS site though.Might take a look at the 310. The 305 was very chunky - I'm guessing it's the same?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 11:54:36 PM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 31, 2010, 02:45:07 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 11:54:36 PM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though

I bought the garmin 205 a bout four years ago. Used it still to day, would feel like I am running naked if I didn't have it on. It cost 250 US dollars.

My youngest brother just finished his first marathon in Dublin earlier this year and for Christmas I bought him the garmin 305 version which unlike the 205 will record your heart rate. It cost 350 US dollars which is probably 175 pound. If your interested you can PM me and I will give you the stores information where I purchased it. Its in Chicago though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 31, 2010, 04:04:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 11:06:54 PM
Fetcheveryone, I find, is a very simple interface for the training diary and is pretty nifty to use.

All I want is average HR, pace / mile and distance for each run which fetch has. It summarises all this very well. Also a very useful feature on it is you put in what shoes you did the run in and it records this. Useful as most trainers only have ~500 mile in them so a good indicator of when to change.

Garmin connect has loads of bells and whistles but I wouldn't use the half of them. It's very good no doubt.

I was just reading the 410 bezel is much better. I'm contemplating upgrading. However it's £330 on amazon! 260 on a GPS site though.Might take a look at the 310. The 305 was very chunky - I'm guessing it's the same?
Yes it's the same style as the old 305 and so is quite bulky...but the bells and whistles are fantastic, different modes for the bike and also working out indoors.
I use most all it has to offer especially the HR monitor, cadence and the mapping of terrain during training for a bike race, would highly recommend it if ye can get past the price
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 11, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 31, 2010, 02:45:07 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 11:54:36 PM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though

I bought the garmin 205 a bout four years ago. Used it still to day, would feel like I am running naked if I didn't have it on. It cost 250 US dollars.

My youngest brother just finished his first marathon in Dublin earlier this year and for Christmas I bought him the garmin 305 version which unlike the 205 will record your heart rate. It cost 350 US dollars which is probably 175 pound. If your interested you can PM me and I will give you the stores information where I purchased it. Its in Chicago though.
Bat, would you say the Garmin 205 is the same watch as the 305, just minus the heart rate monitor. Im interested in buying one of these, i had a loan of a 305, but i didnt use the heart rate attachment, not really interested in wearing it, but i like the watch for timing etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
Im surprised how addictive this running lark is. I started (from a very unfit position) on the 10th of January and ran 1.5 miles which nearly killed me. I stuck at it and have gradually upped the distance over 3 or 4 nights a week to 4.5 miles with no stops the past two nights. There is a fair oul thrill after you've done the running and i honestly cant believe that i am in a position where i am actually looking forward to going for a run.

My times arent great (just under 30 mins for 3 miles) but im more concerned with just trying to get further each week. The free MAPMYRUN app for the Iphone is a good job by the way, tracks your route and distance, gives time and distance updates every mile (or km) and also tells you how many calories youv'e burned.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 26, 2011, 04:53:42 PM
I've been using runkeeper pro the last few weeks as someone on here said it was free for January.  thought id try it.  great job. helps me out with pacing my runs as i used to always think i was going to slow and speed up...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 26, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
Dont ramp up too quick.

Make sure you have at least a day rest between runs. Two or three day rests would be better at this point in your career.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on January 26, 2011, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
Im surprised how addictive this running lark is. I started (from a very unfit position) on the 10th of January and ran 1.5 miles which nearly killed me. I stuck at it and have gradually upped the distance over 3 or 4 nights a week to 4.5 miles with no stops the past two nights. There is a fair oul thrill after you've done the running and i honestly cant believe that i am in a position where i am actually looking forward to going for a run.

My times arent great (just under 30 mins for 3 miles) but im more concerned with just trying to get further each week. The free MAPMYRUN app for the Iphone is a good job by the way, tracks your route and distance, gives time and distance updates every mile (or km) and also tells you how many calories youv'e burned.
Quote from: Orior on January 26, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
Dont ramp up too quick.

Make sure you have at least a day rest between runs. Two or three day rests would be better at this point in your career.

I agree with Orior, each to their own, but the best advice I can give is to get as much rest as runs at this stage or you will get start to get niggles/injuries kicking in when you want them the least.
Everyone is different, but the rule of thumb is to not increase by more than 10% of the previous distance, and total your weekly distances to keep an eye on it
Title: Club 10k Race
Post by: No1 on February 22, 2011, 05:42:48 PM
Anyone fancy a nice flat 10k this Sunday..........

http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1199 (http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1199)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 19, 2011, 09:45:24 AM
Im running the Larne half marathon today, anybody else doing it, or have done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 10:12:14 AM
Yeah I've done it before - my advice would be conserve a bit of energy for second half.

It's flat to ~6 mile and then you've a mile or two of steep enough hill then downhill and back. Save some for the hill and descent then it's flat on the way back so you can hammer on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 19, 2011, 10:43:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 10:12:14 AM
Yeah I've done it before - my advice would be conserve a bit of energy for second half.

It's flat to ~6 mile and then you've a mile or two of steep enough hill then downhill and back. Save some for the hill and descent then it's flat on the way back so you can hammer on.
Cheers, just finished beatin the porridge into me!! Bring it on, im lookin forward to it!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 19, 2011, 11:20:01 AM
Getting awful pain in the outside of my knee and up into the side of my thigh. Usually kicks in after about 5/6 miles. Really starting to hold me back. Any ideas on how to prevent this. Tried resting but again it comes back. Got a gait analysis and proper trainers, no help. Starting to think running isn't for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 19, 2011, 02:36:07 PM
yea i got physio treatment on it last year but it had limited success tbh.  i do over pronate according to the gait analysis and thus got trainers to suit.  rested for about 2 months but it quickly returned once i was up and running again. admittedly i wouldnt be the most flexible in the world so maybe getting one of these foam rollers would help
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on March 19, 2011, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 19, 2011, 11:20:01 AM
Getting awful pain in the outside of my knee and up into the side of my thigh. Usually kicks in after about 5/6 miles. Really starting to hold me back. Any ideas on how to prevent this. Tried resting but again it comes back. Got a gait analysis and proper trainers, no help. Starting to think running isn't for me

Have had that before myself. Get yourself a good sports massage at least twice, lay of the running for a few weeks (replace with cycling or swimming if you can) and you'll be better than before in no time.
New trainers and foam rollers are a good job when it has been loosened off, but its somewhere between hard & impossible to stretch properly until you get it massaged (in my experience), and it will keep re-occuring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:35:04 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

for anyone who knows me,an expert in running wouldnt be the 1st thing that comes to mind when you see me  :D

Im in Cardiff for the Heineken Cup Final that weekend anyway, but 9 or 10 mile would be too much for me. I will stick to the fantasy rugby ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

Was there not a 10k in Bellaghy the other weekend there? Or is the Ronan Rocks one a different one altogether?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

Was there not a 10k in Bellaghy the other weekend there? Or is the Ronan Rocks one a different one altogether?

it's a different one, this isnt a 10 K, nor  a half marathon, it's somewhere in between, 9 mile or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: isourboydownyet on March 21, 2011, 11:59:17 AM
ronans charity race is 15k on the 21st of may i think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2011, 12:08:17 PM
Done a 5 mile charity run yesterday. I can't understand why people would want to do a marathon! 5 mile is enough for me. It wasn't hard or anything, just extremely boring. I couldn't imagine having to run for 25 mile or so. I think i will take up the cycling, much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 21, 2011, 01:29:03 PM
I did 30 mile cycle yesterday and overtook a load of Santa Claus's (not sure of the plural) on the Comber Greenway.

It's not often I get to overtake other cyclists, so that was fun, but I've no idea why they were all dressed up as Santa Claus.

I thought about knocking a few over so I could stop and ask but then I thought Christmas aint that far away and I'd better watch out, I'd better not cry, I'd better behave, I'm telling you why, Santa Claus is coming to town.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?

A cheap Casio watch plus this http://www.mapmyrun.com/ (http://www.mapmyrun.com/).

Alternatively measure out a couple of runs in your Dad's car (including the halfway point), then concentrate on:
1) improving the time for each run
2) running the second half quicker than the first half
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2011, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 28, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?

A cheap Casio watch plus this http://www.mapmyrun.com/ (http://www.mapmyrun.com/).

Alternatively measure out a couple of runs in your Dad's car (including the halfway point), then concentrate on:
1) improving the time for each run
2) running the second half quicker than the first half

???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2011, 05:36:17 PM
Or your sisters. Why waste your own petrol?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
Thinking of getting back into a bit of road running but at the moment dont have the right footwear. Any hints on what to get, not as young as I used to be so trying to protect the old joints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2011, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
Thinking of getting back into a bit of road running but at the moment dont have the right footwear. Any hints on what to get, not as young as I used to be so trying to protect the old joints.

You can't go far wrong with a decent pair of Asics.

This is a good site and they always have some sort of sale on.

http://www.prodirectrunning.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
Try one of these three places as they're usually best...

http://sweatshop.co.uk/ (http://sweatshop.co.uk/)
http://startfitness.co.uk/ (http://startfitness.co.uk/)
http://www.sportsdirect.com/ (http://www.sportsdirect.com/)

Asics I usually go for. Check out whether you're neutral or not too. Asics cumulus for neutral or GT21XX if you pronate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2011, 09:02:14 AM
Thanks lads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on March 30, 2011, 08:18:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

I'd like to know this too, how important is it? I bought a pair of Asics recently and I must confess I bought the because there was £45 off them in Sports Direct, they feel different from previous trainers and I'm starting to wonder if there are any side affects to getting the wrong type of trainers?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on March 30, 2011, 09:39:58 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

ONeill - I posted this link last year on this thread.

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 30, 2011, 10:20:50 AM
http://www.therunningadvisor.com/running_shoes.html#pronation (http://www.therunningadvisor.com/running_shoes.html#pronation)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 10:41:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

I was hobbling on my left ankle after every tennis session for a couple of days at a time. I wandered into Foot Solutions in Cork and they did a free assessment. They said my left foot was tilting outward at the ankle and quoted me €289 or something for a set of inserts for my shoes. I said "Christ!".

I have heel pads in the tennis shoes for cushioning - they're bevelled yokes under your heel about 7 cm long that go from 8 mm thick at the back down to nothing). I took the one in the left shoe and turned it 90 degrees so that the high part was now at the left of my heel instead of the back. No more ankle problems.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
For low miles it wouldn't be too important depending on how bad your pronation is. Once you get any kind of mileage though this stuff really kicks in. When I started running bigger miles I kept getting knee problems which were due to ITBS. This is a common runners problem caused by over pronation. I got inserts which sorted it.

If you run a bit and get no injury problems I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on March 30, 2011, 07:00:51 PM
Interesting. I think I might go and get the feet looked at, no real pain at the minute but I can feel that something isn't right. Does that Runner's World shop across from the Europa do it? What are the prices like?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
Hi lads I am running the marathon in Belfast in a few weeks and am really looking forward to it :P  The knees and ankles are well battered at this stage and hopefully I may be able to lose the stone that I need to over the next few weeks.  If anyone else is doing it I would appreciate a running victim to help pull me along.  I know I can rely on Orior to cheer me on again this year.  I am raising money for the Red Cross so feel free anyone else to send a few sheckles to my justgiving account which is on the link in my signature.  I will be spamming all my e mail/facebook friends as well ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 08, 2011, 04:57:33 PM
No bother son. Though this time I cant wait around after the sun has set.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 08, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
Best of luck to broken crossbar,is this your first?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
BC there are pacers doing it for a load of different times.

A lot of these guys are a real good help and will give you a lot of good help getting round. They'll be the ones with balloons on them. They are a good job and I'd recommend latching on to a group.

3:00,3:15,3:45,4:00 and 4:30 are the ones with pacers I think.

I think you sign up at the "expo". Details at this link:http://www.belfastcitymarathon.com/opencontent/default.asp?itemid=97&section=GET+TRAINING (http://www.belfastcitymarathon.com/opencontent/default.asp?itemid=97&section=GET+TRAINING)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
Thanks to orior my first sponsor! I'll look into that tommy, I did it last year with no real training. This year I have done a bit more and hope to take a few minutes. Also I know now what pace to do it at. Last year I went off far too hard and was really badly bursted by 16 miles. I will be a bit more conservative early on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:32 PM
Which leg?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
Not sure yet. He hasn't decided on running order. Hoping for the Falls one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 09, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??

This is what we call "the confidence of youth"
Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CiKe on April 09, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: mannix on April 09, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??

This is what we call "the confidence of youth"
Good luck

Nothing youthful about him! Good luck Milltown
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on April 11, 2011, 02:05:26 PM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 17, 2011, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 11, 2011, 02:05:26 PM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932
Good show that, watchin a bit of the London Marathon here, elite woman runners went off first, they have run over 11 miles in under an hour, some pace!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AFS on April 18, 2011, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: orangeman on April 11, 2011, 02:05:26 PM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932

Bit closer today.

Geoffrey Mutai breaks world marathon record in Boston

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52219000/jpg/_52219058_mutai.jpg)

Kenya's Geoffrey Mutai has won the Boston Marathon men's race in an unofficial world-record time of two hours, three minutes and two seconds.

The previous record of 2:03:59 was set by Ethiopia's Haile Gebrselassie in Berlin on 28 September 2008.

More to follow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/13116092.stm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ardal on April 18, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 18, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: ardal on April 18, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that

LOL. Mrs Ardal might beg to differ.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ardal on April 18, 2011, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: ardal on April 18, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that

LOL. Mrs Ardal might beg to differ.

I'm a full marathon man myself Orior, love that nutty, caramel, chocolate mix. Never have dropped out half way, even if the missus was too sound asleep to know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
SPONSOR ME FOR BELFAST MARATHON RUN!!! (http://original.justgiving.com/gavincumiskey)

Ok lads coming into the last few days before the run and training is going mehhh but sure I'll get round at some stage :D.

Many thanks to the little baldy man, I promise the Kerry man I won't clean him out on the golf course, the Mayo man in the middle of the field, the man who knows a man who is the fastest talker in the world, the man from the bogs, the Principal of the Board, Joe Brolly's mate and my own personal marathon stalker, all very generous with their contributions to my ambulance fund(my own personal ambulance!).  Now come on to f**k the rest of you mean hoors and put your fingers to work over to my fundraising website and sponsor me some money!!!!

Thanks

SPONSOR ME FOR BELFAST MARATHON RUN!!! (http://original.justgiving.com/gavincumiskey)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2011, 07:16:18 PM
At a party at the min, just got sponsored hundred quid!! rich guy, brill up to 3 hundred without trying. Ardal you are full of shite. You wanted to finish a full match but were shite!!! stick to running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 01, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
60 of us from my firm are taking part in various ways in memory of our colleague who was murdered in September. Look out for bright yellow tshirts with an accountancy firm logo down the side!

Doing the 9 mile walk myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:50:22 PM
Yes should be good craic tomorrow, have done nothing, haven't run at all, but looking to do 9/10 minute mile.

Am I being too optimistic? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Only doing a leg of it, 5 1/4 miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:24:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
You ought to be ashamed anyway, milltown, Aidso Murray and Sean Shannon are doing the whole thing!

Whose car are they taking?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Whatever you fancy yourself wee man.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Whatever you fancy yourself wee man.


;D ;D

Burgers then ;) will try the other thing after a few beers :D
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some burgers and beers ;)
You ought to be ashamed anyway, milltown, Aidso Murray and Sean Shannon are doing the whole thing!

Aidso would probably be still fit. I'll do this and see if i have a notion for actually doing the whole thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
MR 9 / 10 minute miles shouldn't be too hard for that distance if you are keeping yourself in any kind of shape. 9 / 10 minute miles isn't shifting particularly much - just don't go off to fast and it will be easy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 01, 2011, 10:02:38 PM
Doing the first six myself. I would love to do the whole lot but every time I get to longer miles in training I pick up an injury. Feckin 2 weeks before the Dublin marathon last year ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: David McKeown on May 01, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Only doing 3.5 tomorrow but I've put on zoo much weight the last two years I'm really dreading it but ah well it's all for charity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Well done to all who ran the marathon or like myself and thousands of others a leg or two of it, was powerfully warm today but I managed the 4th leg in 42 minutes!! Surprised myself as I hadn't done a pick of training!!

8 minute mile, while I don't have a bug for running I would be tempted to do 2 legs maybe next year, with a bit of training of course. Now I'm off to have a few beers at the local
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on May 02, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Jacob Chesire wins Belfast marathon in record time

Jacob Chesire from Kenya has won this year's marathon in a record-breaking time of two hours 14 minutes and 56 seconds.

The previous record was two hours 15 minutes and 51 seconds by Marty Deane in 1985.

Up to 21,000 people are taking part in events connected to the 30th Belfast Marathon.

Race director David Seaton said the event was "very good" for Belfast with the biggest number of entrants ever.

"We have 21,000 people of all shapes, sizes and athletic abilities," he said.

"It is the biggest entry we have ever had over the years. We, as organisers, are delighted."

Mr Seaton said the conditions were perhaps a little warm for those running the full marathon.

"It will be okay for the fun runners and, maybe, the relay runners. But for some of the marathon runners, out for three or three and a half hours, it could be pretty awkward."

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 02, 2011, 02:39:17 PM
Brokencrossbar last spotted on the Antrim Road about 11am and full of beans. Wonder how long that lasted!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on May 02, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 02, 2011, 02:39:17 PM
Brokencrossbar last spotted on the Antrim Road about 11am and full of beans. Wonder how long that lasted!

Don't know but he was posting on the Liverpool thread at 16.30 ish.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 01, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
If liverpool win their last 3 games they will get 5th barring a goal scoring miracle by spurs. Liverpool have 8 goal advantage. Even if they won last 3 games 1 nil it would mean spurs scoring 12 clear goals in 3 games, with 1 game against Man City.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2011, 03:41:51 PM
Wrong day Denn!  Finished and on the way home. Didn't do it as fast as I hoped but finished and for that I am satisfied. Orior didn't stalk me like last year but his encouragement was welcome.  O'Neill didn't give me the promised kick in the hole, I don't know which of us was the fastest;) Any thoughts of a third one are well and truly on ice! Home now for fat food and beer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on May 02, 2011, 04:09:49 PM
Fair play to all of ye who did the run. I will, of course, require photographic evidence of the Cross man crossing the line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2011, 04:20:12 PM
Evidence sent old boy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.

Free if you buy a new pair of trainers, £10/15 if you dont. Why did you buy trainers with "support" if you werent sure if you needed them?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.

Free if you buy a new pair of trainers, £10/15 if you dont. Why did you buy trainers with "support" if you werent sure if you needed them?

They were on sale  :-[ I'll learn for next time. Thanks btw, going to call in this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
IF they are unworn and the correct size I`ll take them off you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
It gets worse...I've had them for a while and, even though I had my suspicions, I kept wearing them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 10:08:50 PM
Thought I was going to get a bargain, Up and Running dont have any at the minute and they are £96
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
The Gt-2150 are £96? I paid £50 in Sports Direct.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
The 2150s(a model up I think) are ~£60 in a variety of places online.

When you say it's worse - how so?? Have you got injured in them?

Yeah, U&R do gait analysis. You will pay if you don't buy trainers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
It's hard to describe. Up until now, I haven't felt any pain (tonight has been the first instance and I would describe it as more of a niggle than a pain, but it concerns me nonetheless). I never felt entirely comfortable, like I have with previous running shoes, but I persisted with them and now I think it's time to see if it's all in my head or if I need to get a more suitable pair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
Ah, well try a GAIT analysis I would say. I would recommend sussing it out and paying once in a shop then when you have it sussed buy your trainers from here on in online.

You would tend to get more problems when you wear neutral and should be in stability shoes to be honest however they could cause problems.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:46:09 PM
Aye, I'm gonna call in this week, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I'll maybe lay off the running for a few days in the meantime. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 23, 2011, 11:02:31 PM
It costs £20 to get gait analysis in Up & Running. If you don't buy straight away they give you a voucher to redeem at a later stage. Worth doing it if you are a serious road runner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on May 24, 2011, 09:36:59 PM
Found Up and Running a really good place to go. Might be more expensive than buying on line, but the advice was first class. Ive not had any injuries since buying my last pair of runners there. Well worth a visit imo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on June 16, 2011, 01:56:12 PM
Has anybody ran the Ards half marathon before?  Entered for it, but have heard a few horror stories about how tough it is!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 16, 2011, 05:47:07 PM
Was supposed to do it myself but training didn't exactly go to plan!  I have a friend who ran it last year and he says it's very tough,  up and round Scrabo Tower twice according to him.  Not sure if it's a different route this year.  Good luck with it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LeoMc on June 16, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
Anyone doing Dromore 10K on Saturday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on August 19, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!

i'm doing it. its pissing in dublin right now,so hopefully it will be better tomorrow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
Please post up how you get on.  And good luck.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: ildanach on August 19, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!

i'm doing it. its pissing in dublin right now,so hopefully it will be better tomorrow
Don't mind the rain as long as the wind stays away. Bit of a climb after 3 miles till 4 and a sharp rise inside the last mile. Cracking course otherwise. Hoping to get in or around the hour for it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2011, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run.

Rois

Why dont you go up anyway, I know one lad who does that every year. You can time yourself. I did it about 5 years ago, 52 minutes odd, had to laugh at the picture of myself at the end,looked like I had ran from Galway to Dublin the state I was in.

Good luck Ballinaman and thanks for advice,wrist is in good shape, playing golf in the morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 19, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
Few of the local lads are doing the run, then they for the Berlin Marathon at end of september.

Gaelforce in westport is this weekend as well, 2,600 doing it. More of a mutlidiscipline race with running, hiking, cycling and kayaking but have promised myself to do it next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2011, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run.

Rois

Why dont you go up anyway, I know one lad who does that every year. You can time yourself. I did it about 5 years ago, 52 minutes odd, had to laugh at the picture of myself at the end,looked like I had ran from Galway to Dublin the state I was in.

Good luck Ballinaman and thanks for advice,wrist is in good shape, playing golf in the morning.
Goof stuff gerry, glad to hear its coming along, best of luck. 52 mins for 10 miles, jaysus...thats fairly handy..should pack in that golf and stick to the running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2011, 02:54:37 PM
Only saw that now, its 10k I did, felt like 10 miles!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
I entered but unfortunately can not do it now with an injury I picked up :-(

If you did 52 minutes for 10 mile you'd maybe win it!

Be interesting to see who wins it tomorrow. Boy going down from the north who fancies his chances but there's a few boys running down south who may put manners in him!

I know a few boys doing Gaelfoce - I expect they'll get their fill of it doing that event!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
61 mins 54 seconds....comfortable enough, crackin day for a race!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on August 20, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
that was a great time. I did it in 88 13. That hill on the last mile was a f**ker in the heat. First time doing a 10mile race, so delighted to finish it below 90mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: ildanach on August 20, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
that was a great time. I did it in 88 13. That hill on the last mile was a f**ker in the heat. First time doing a 10mile race, so delighted to finish it below 90mins
fair play, great to break the 90 mins!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:11:56 PM
Ballinaman I take it you do a right bit of running? That's a serious time. I'd love to break the 60 some time - have got 29 in a 5 mile but getting sub 6 for 10 miles tough.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:11:56 PM
Ballinaman I take it you do a right bit of running? That's a serious time. I'd love to break the 60 some time - have got 29 in a 5 mile but getting sub 6 for 10 miles tough.
29 is failry handy for 5!Do a bit alright... :P 60 will be tough but hope to have a crack at it in the half marathon in september. Going for marathon so serious training starts now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Ha, ai thought you might do a bit at that time.

With that time sub 3 should be doable in a marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Ha, ai thought you might do a bit at that time.

With that time sub 3 should be doable in a marathon.
Did an hour 23 for a half a few weeks ago but i was spent in last 3 miles. First marathon so 3 hours is probably just out of reach, have to experience that pain beyond 20 miles!! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
I don't do the marathons but do the long runs up to 2 hours with a lot of guys some of whom would be sub 2:40.

I've seen quite a lot of boys try so hard to get the 3 and never get it and boys you never thought would get it get it.

The marathon is a funny old game - all in the head. Also difficult to get the peak right but I think a lot of it is in the preparation and the management of the body so if you prepare right very possible. (2 x half + 10 is a good approximation apparently)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
I don't do the marathons but do the long runs up to 2 hours with a lot of guys some of whom would be sub 2:40.

I've seen quite a lot of boys try so hard to get the 3 and never get it and boys you never thought would get it get it.

The marathon is a funny old game - all in the head. Also difficult to get the peak right but I think a lot of it is in the preparation and the management of the body so if you prepare right very possible. (2 x half + 10 is a good approximation apparently)
Spot on alright. Tough to get the balance right, have to be careful not to over train. Want to have four 20 miler runs in around 2 and a half hours before October 31st. Looking forward to it though. The start of the ten mile was a joke though, very narrow and had people who shouldn't have been anywhere near the front holding up the show, had to run up in the grass embankments!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 11:00:52 PM
Some of the people at the front of them runs annoy my head - they're wasting everyones time including their own.  Trick is you warm up on the course then run back to the start and push in! (Haven't done a race that big mind as max up here is ~1k excluding belfast marathon)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 22, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
Did a 10km run there yesterday. Its part of the City to Surf that Chevron organise across Australia, and as we're on a Chevron site they organised one here....

Hadn't trained at all for it, (and to be honest i was no great shakes anyway) but managed to complete the 10k in just under an hour, which was my aim

The first 5k was extremely hilly, and on dirt roads with lots of potholes, loose stones etc. Also didnt help that it was 26deg in the shade...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 22, 2011, 07:04:36 PM
im thinkin of running this
http://www.causewaycoastmarathon.com/ (HALF MARATHON)
Anybody ran it before?
Am i Mad?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Haven't ran it but have heard reports of more trail and hills than your average half marathon. I don't think it's that bad though. You'll not run a PB at it but sure you could say that about a lot of races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 24, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
Did 10.2 (the 0.2 is important!) in 97 mins last night as part of half marathon training.  The last half mile felt like a climb so I walked a bit of it.  I have never run that far in my life. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 24, 2011, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: Rois on August 24, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
Did 10.2 (the 0.2 is important!) in 97 mins last night as part of half marathon training.  The last half mile felt like a climb so I walked a bit of it.  I have never run that far in my life.
Tell me about it. Just after doing 20 miles in about 2 hours 30 mins....legs creaking the last 2 miles...work is gonna be great craic today! :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 12, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Anyone doing the half marathon in phoenix park this saturday? Clashing with the Ireland Australia game!  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 16, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
Right, my first ever timed run with other people coming up tomorrow with the half marathon.

Race pack hasn't arrived, my tickets for the AIF haven't arrived, I got a spasm in my neck this week from the driving range...but I have decided not to worry about all those things and look forward to running 13.1 miles round Phoenix Park. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 16, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: Rois on September 16, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
Right, my first ever timed run with other people coming up tomorrow with the half marathon.

Race pack hasn't arrived, my tickets for the AIF haven't arrived, I got a spasm in my neck this week from the driving range...but I have decided not to worry about all those things and look forward to running 13.1 miles round Phoenix Park.
Best of luck Rois. Prep hasn't been ideal for myself either, couldn't shake a cold for last 2 weeks, training hard hasn't help and woke up with swollen tonsil yesterday morning! On anti b's since this morn. Still hoping for breakin pb of 1.23mins though!

Weather going to be shite! ah well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on September 16, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
if i do it in 2 hours i will be delighted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 17, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
1.24.16.....happy enough considering tonsils nearly coming out of my neck for last 2 days! Tired from 6-10 but picked it up again thankfully in last 3.1!!Think sub 3 for the marathon might be a bit too much of an ask... :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on September 17, 2011, 03:04:12 PM
2:04 would have liked to have made the 2 hour mark but not a bad 1st attempt at 1/2 marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on September 17, 2011, 03:10:30 PM
Rois, calling Rois.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 19, 2011, 08:32:33 AM
2hrs 04 as well, flip what a feeling when it was over.

I came from a standing start in June, refused to run a leg of the Belfast marathon relay because I'd told myself my chronic over pronation ruled me out. New pair of trainers and double socks from M&S worked wonders.

Well done Ballinaman and ildanach.

Oh, and tickets for the AIF arrived and they turned out to be Premiums. What a wkend!
Title: Marathon man disqualified for taking bus
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 06:02:08 PM
Marathon man disqualified for taking bus


A man who finished third in a marathon was disqualified for taking a bus to the finishing line.

Rob Sloan produced an impressive time of 2:51:00 to finish third in the Kielder Marathon but things were not quite as they seemed.

After being spotted by a number witnesses, Sloan finally admitted that he started to feel tired after 20 miles of the 26.2 mile race, so he decided to hop on a bus that was carrying spectators to the finish.

He then hid behind a tree and waited for the first two runners to come through, before rejoining the race in time to pick up the bronze medal for third.

The Sunderland Harriers runner could now be kicked out of his club and banned from further marathons.

He had at first protested his innocence when the allegations were first brought up that he was "upset and angry that someone wants to cast these aspersions. It's laughable, is what it is."

Race organisers said in a statement: "The athlete who was disqualified on Sunday after initially placing third has admitted that he failed to complete the whole course of 26.2 miles.

"Rob Sloan of Sunderland Harriers had apparently made the decision to withdraw from the race at approximately 20 miles due to fatigue and after returning to the Leaplish Park area he decided to run the closing section of the course and crossed the finish line in third place.

"This was rightly questioned by several witnesses including the rightful third place finisher, Steven Cairns of Peebles, Scotland, who has been awarded the prize."

Ann Lillie, club treasurer and vice-president of Sunderland Harriers admitted the club would consider dismissing Sloan.

"It's a bit of a shock. We have a good reputation and obviously this has brought the club into disrepute," she is quoted as saying in the Daily Telegraph.

"It's not the kind of advertising we need. We'll be discussing Rob's future when the executive committee meets next week."

Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 12, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
During the Chicago a man died during the race and a pregnant women went into labor.

Firefighter dies during race.............http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/10238949/


Woman gives birth after marathon.............http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/10/ap/strange/main20118157.shtml
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2011, 11:08:25 PM
That guy sounds like an idiot - I dunno why he ran a 10k race the day before a marathon. Not too sensible.

Quite a few have died in the great north run and a guy died in London the other year by drowning himself from drinking too much water.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Puckoon on October 18, 2011, 12:20:42 AM
This boy is a hundred!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15330421 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15330421)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 18, 2011, 03:24:17 PM
Anyone doing the Dublin marathon lads? Countdown is on now....

(http://media.washtimes.com/media/community/image/2010/10/13/DSC_0145_t268.JPG?7f6c82c4e3ebc52dbf2e980dcc8631719b6d5f11)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2011, 11:18:16 AM
Best of luck to everyone doing the Marathon on Monday.

For any other runners out their we are organising a 5KM in Castleblayney on 4th December, a flat road race. More details on the link below.

http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html (http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html)

I'll even arrange a trophy for the first gaaboarder cross the line  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 28, 2011, 11:18:16 AM
Best of luck to everyone doing the Marathon on Monday.

For any other runners out their we are organising a 5KM in Castleblayney on 4th December, a flat road race. More details on the link below.

http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html (http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html)

I'll even arrange a trophy for the first gaaboarder cross the line  :)
May have to tip up for that!

Best of luck to everyone too, Rois and idanach if they are going.
Nervously looking forward to monday now...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 28, 2011, 07:29:11 PM
I'm sure it'll be ballinaman's trophy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2011, 09:18:44 AM
Anyone know the link to the online results tracker??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:54:06 PM
Aye I know a husband and wife team that went down for it. Be my age and two fitness freaks. No kids though so plenty of time to recover FFS

They did Toronto the other month, relentless.  I have been at the gym for a while and do 2 miles 4 days a week, managing to do it around 13.30 minutes. Don't think I could ever do a marathon in fairness, I'm the type of trainer who likes to get it done quickly and outta the way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 09:44:36 PM
How did anyone get on in dublin? Ballinaman you break the 3??

MR some people get addicted to the marathon lark.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
3.22 in the end. Bang on target for  sub 3 till 17 miles and then got cramps/pain like I've never felt before in all my years of running races. Was in bits!Defo underestimated it, savage experience, some challenge. The experience of the 1st one under the belt and tweak the training,I'm going to give it a serious crack in Belfast next May. Chippers and pints for the next two weeks and then back at it again! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heganboy on November 03, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
3.22 is still some time. I am still very pleased that I beat 4 hours! (years ago before any of the smart arises jump in...)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
Belfast has a lot of very exposed areas so you'll get hit by a lot of wind. Less numbers means you'll be more out on your own too if you lose the pace group. Also it's a hilly bollocks in places.  That aside it's great  ;) Seriously though it's not renowned for being fast.

3:22 is a great time especially for a first. I'm still at the 5k / 10k / 5 mile races etc. I'll do a few more of them before stepping up.

Sub 4 also good time heganboy. If you're going below 4 you're doing well.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
Belfast has a lot of very exposed areas so you'll get hit by a lot of wind. Less numbers means you'll be more out on your own too if you lose the pace group. Also it's a hilly bollocks in places.  That aside it's great  ;) Seriously though it's not renowned for being fast.

3:22 is a great time especially for a first. I'm still at the 5k / 10k / 5 mile races etc. I'll do a few more of them before stepping up.

Sub 4 also good time heganboy. If you're going below 4 you're doing well.
Sound for the heads up. Had a look at Edinburgh there, 27th of May, 3 weeks later than Belfast so bit more time to prepare. Would like to do Belfast sometime though.  Going to join a club here in Dublin in the next few weeks so hopefully might bring us on again. Looking forward to getting back to shorter races now, hopefully head up to bingos Castleblaney 5k!
You're dead right though, take your time stepping up. Hard to stop once ya start!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Thats a very good time for first marathon, fair play.

One of the lads done 3.17, he had done 3.18 in Berlin a while back, so he was delighted on a tough enough course by all accounts. It was his 4th marathon.

I'm considering doing it next year, hopefully will do some of the muti-sport events first - the Gaelforce races, enjoy them more than the running but if they go well, I'll take on with the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Thats a very good time for first marathon, fair play.

One of the lads done 3.17, he had done 3.18 in Berlin a while back, so he was delighted on a tough enough course by all accounts. It was his 4th marathon.

I'm considering doing it next year, hopefully will do some of the muti-sport events first - the Gaelforce races, enjoy them more than the running but if they go well, I'll take on with the marathon.
Those adventure races look really tough, I know a lad who did gaelforce and was out for about 6 hours, thats an awful long time to be out on your feet. You need the experience of one before chasing a time, I was a bit naive thinking about times when hadn't experienced what a marathon had to offer first. Need to run last 3 or 4 miles of the 20 milers at marathon race pace to get the body used to running at that speed with that many miles on the clock. Had been doing 7 half min miles in training for 21 miles but 6.52s which are needed for sub 3 are a different story altogether! Dying to get back out again, even though stairs are still sore from last monday! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
By all accounts they are tough but I enjoy the different elements to it, the cycling often covers alot of the distance/time. I'll target a few duathlons in the spring and the Gaelforce North in early summr before Gaelforce West in August.

I know a lad who took into running this year and over the last few months set himself for the marathon, some of the other marathons runners took him for a 20 miler about 3 weeks back and it broke him, he took a lift at about mile 18 and was out on his feet. He didn't do the marathon as he "didn't want to look like a dying c**t over the last few miles"  :D He'd be entitled to look how he wanted, no doubt he'll do it next year with more running in the years, he'd be an ignornat whore and won't settle now till he gets one in.

Never mind your stairs, Gerry Duffy was telling one of the lads that he is still struggling with mornings since his DECA Ironmans.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
I had a look at miy pictures and it's safe to say i looked like a dying c**t  :D
Also didn't look great for people to come to see a Physio on Tuesday morning and here's me struggling to get out of the chair and move around the room trying to demonstrate exercises :D

Gerry is a legend, met him a a race in Mayo a couple of months ago and before the marathon,be good to chat to him again in Castleblaney.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 11:47:31 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
I had a look at miy pictures and it's safe to say i looked like a dying c**t  :D
Also didn't look great for people to come to see a Physio on Tuesday morning and here's me struggling to get out of the chair and move around the room trying to demonstrate exercises :D

Gerry is a legend, met him a a race in Mayo a couple of months ago and before the marathon,be good to chat to him again in Castleblaney.

He is indeed, no doubt you've read his book - Who Dares runs? He is also trying to get Ken, his 32 marathons running partner, to run the 5km with him, apparently Ken hasn't done any running since it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 04, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
3.22 in the end. Bang on target for  sub 3 till 17 miles and then got cramps/pain like I've never felt before in all my years of running races. Was in bits!Defo underestimated it, savage experience, some challenge. The experience of the 1st one under the belt and tweak the training,I'm going to give it a serious crack in Belfast next May. Chippers and pints for the next two weeks and then back at it again! :D

Briilliant!  Congrats.

I have NO intentions of ever doing a full marathon but I'll be back for the Dublin half next year.  I wish there was a half in the Belfast marathon, since there's everything else...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Great read. Bought it on Saturday off him at the Marathon expo and had it read before the race on monday. He's a serious runner as well, did 2.55 in his debut marathon in Edinburgh. Be good coup to have the both of them up.

Sound Rois. There is a half in Edinburgh. You say that now but the marathon will get ya...eventually... :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 04, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!

What time would you be running 5k and 10k in Ballinaman ? I have started back myself and would be interested to see how slow i'm running in comparison to some of ye boyo's :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 04, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!

What time would you be running 5k and 10k in Ballinaman ? I have started back myself and would be interested to see how slow i'm running in comparison to some of ye boyo's :D
First off i wouldn't be bothered about other peoples time if you have started back, just enjoy it and don't put too much emphasis on times. My PB's were back when I was 17 and training like a mad yoke. PB for 5K was 15.42 and 10K is 35.17. Would be happy with sub 18 in the Castleblaney 5k, haven't done a tap of short speed work for months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 12, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Did my first ever 5k ParkRun this morning.

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/course (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/course)

Very embarrassing time, but less than 26 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 01:37:05 PM
Did it as well orior. Great wee event.

Results are up now as I did them!

Nothing embarassing about it... It's a good event to do regularly and get your time down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
is this a yearly thing? Would be interested in those
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 13, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I keep getting calf strains any advice lads as it doing my head in . i'm strectching well before running,have good running shoes. I was  running this morning and just had to pull up with the shot of pain  >:( . I have been playing on astroturf the past 3 years and never had any bother with strains.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 13, 2011, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 13, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I keep getting calf strains any advice lads as it doing my head in . i'm strectching well before running,have good running shoes. I was  running this morning and just had to pull up with the shot of pain  >:( . I have been playing on astroturf the past 3 years and never had any bother with strains.
How long into the run? Both legs? Where, towards back of knee or lower down towards the achilles? Whats your hamstring length like, can have a big affect on the calf muscles if short.
You need to hold stretch for at least 40 seconds in order to get a good stretch on the muscle fibres and for at least 3 or 4 reps. The soleus muscle which is underneath the main calf muscle is often over looked and needs to be stretched too.
I'd look into getting yourself a foam roller, they are brilliant for stretching out muscles. Only about 10 blips on amazon and well worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
- Define good running shoes - do they suit your gait?
- Running puts a bit more impact on the muscles / joints so any shortness in muscles / lack of stretching will be exposed. As BM says there are two main muscles so make sure to do them both mainly after a run.
- Try heel drops as well as they're eccentric exercises which should help lengthen the muscle. (stand on the edge of a step face forward and drop your heels of the step - very good stretch)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 13, 2011, 09:15:28 PM
I used to get sore calves after doing beach/sand dune training. I assume it was caused by the heel sinking and putting more stress on the calf.

On that theory, try dropping your arms and being more upright when jogging, in the style of Michael Jordan (I think).





Disclaimer: This might cause other issues, like getting yoiu arrested for looking stupid.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 14, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 06:35:38 PM
First off i wouldn't be bothered about other peoples time if you have started back, just enjoy it and don't put too much emphasis on times. My PB's were back when I was 17 and training like a mad yoke. PB for 5K was 15.42 and 10K is 35.17. Would be happy with sub 18 in the Castleblaney 5k, haven't done a tap of short speed work for months.

Jaysus, 15.42 is a savage time, even sub 18 is right going. Done a timed 5km yesterday on parkland route yesterday with a few moderate slopes in it with a tight enough one at the finish. Did 23.05 for it and was happy with that - haven't been out running in a few weeks. Hopefully shave a minute plus off that for the 5km on a the flat route and with a bit more running under the belt.

Plans for the 5km going well - Gerry and ken running together for first time, Gerry will also be giving a talk on the day to all interested runners. 3 international triathletes - Dessie Duffy, Liam Dolan and Karl Kildea will also go head-to-head. Plenty of interest and Hector was talking about it on 2fm this morning - Aoife Garragher of AA roadwatch would be a local girl and is doing it and give it a will plug on the air this morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 14, 2011, 12:04:11 PM
On a race day you'll always clip a nice bit off, no bother to you bingo. Sounds class, my knee has been at me since the marathon. The ITB insertion is inflammed and as soon as i run over 10 minutes it progressively gets worse. Need to take a few weeks off and commit myself to the proper rehab in order to stop it becoming worse and keeping me out for any longer. Have been blessed with injuries down through, stress fracture in the fibula when i was 17 and thats been it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 14, 2011, 12:20:59 PM
Yeah, Ballinaman, anything i've ever done in a race (not too many mind) I've surprised myself with my times. Have been throwing a few side bets on with a few younger fellas in the football club and they've been very generous in the handicaps they've given me, so aim to collect a few quid on the day  ;)

Sounds like you've been lucky, a few fellas reckon running will have its wear and tear injuries but the longer term injuries like ACL are few and far between with less twisting and turning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 14, 2011, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.

I saw that on their website, would def be very interested, just up the road from me.

Are there slow groups as well as fast? I'm thinking 5k in 27.5 mins or more to start with. Course I'd have to remain alcohol free on a Fri night for a while - which is no mean feat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 14, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 14, 2011, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.

I saw that on their website, would def be very interested, just up the road from me.

Are there slow groups as well as fast? I'm thinking 5k in 27.5 mins or more to start with. Course I'd have to remain alcohol free on a Fri night for a while - which is no mean feat.

You would fit in very well Rois. Just register on the website, then print off your barcode and turn up at 9:15am beside the playground.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 15, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
folks looking for your knowledge i have a fitness test in February for the refereeing happy to run around a field during play but my mind dies when doing laps which is 8 (3200m) in 15 minutes can't get nearer than 18.30 have been doing 5k the last 2 weeks from the front door round the local estate 1 every 2 day started at 35 minutes now down to 31 minutes very hilly run should i stick to the 5k run or should i be in the gym doing shorter runs on the treed mill to improve my speed before going for distance getting 2 different opinions
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 15, 2011, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.
Good advice there.
A nice session to do is minute on/minute off, on a trail route say. Stride out for a minute and then jog easy for a minute and repeat for 10 reps and you'll know all about it. 10 minute warm up, 20 minutes working hard and then 10 minutes warm down.

Can be progressed to 2 minutes on/1 off, for 8 reps or the dreaded 3 on, 2 off for 6 reps...killer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 16, 2011, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 15, 2011, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.
Good advice there.
A nice session to do is minute on/minute off, on a trail route say. Stride out for a minute and then jog easy for a minute and repeat for 10 reps and you'll know all about it. 10 minute warm up, 20 minutes working hard and then 10 minutes warm down.

Can be progressed to 2 minutes on/1 off, for 8 reps or the dreaded 3 on, 2 off for 6 reps...killer.
thanks lads will give it a lash and see how i get on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:13:41 PM
The key leaveherinsir is to do one tempo and one long run a week.

Now on top of that you should do another session of maybe something like 400s and then pad it out with easy running. I would recommend though doing hill drills to build strength first.

Your limiting factor if you're new to running will basically be aerobic fitness / strength so this is the key thing to develop.

Tempo run = 20 -30 minutes at 80-85% heart rate. This in non heart rate terms is "comfortably hard". What this means is that you couldn't converse however you can speak ok as your breathing shouldn't be too inhibited. As you get fitter you will just get faster so it will be as difficult for you each week. Before this you should warm up and afterwards warm down - i.e. this is not your whole session. If you're completely busted at the end of it you're going too hard. It can not be over-emphasised how beneficial tempo runs will be to your 10k time.

Fitness from football / hurling will only get you so far in running. You need to develop your base significantly when going from football / hurling.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?

Easy would probably be around 8 minutes 30. Also doing a 10k on saturday. Seeley?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 17, 2011, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Put on the runners for the first time since the Dublin half in Sep last night - jeez but I was slow, I don't think I'd even do 27.5 at the minute, not with the speed I ran 5.5k in last night.  Shocking!!  A few more weeks' training required before I try that Sat morn run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 17, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
Dont fall into that trap Rois. Get out there this Saturday and set a benchmark that shows steady improvement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2011, 12:13:11 PM
It isn't really a race Rois. It's very relaxed. Seriously you should try one - I bet you would enjoy it independent of fitness level. Just set a benchmark and go from there. Sure who's going to mind what time you do?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 17, 2011, 05:53:34 PM
If this fecking rain keeps falling then I could be there again on Saturday too  :(

If I am then stay away from me because I will be as cross as a cross thing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 17, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?

Looks like ir kept going last winter.

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/eventhistory
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2011, 09:16:37 PM
It kept going every week during the big freeze. It's not a race - it's a run. So people are just advised to run carefully.

The parkrun goes right across the UK, even Australia, Denmark South Africa and now the states. Every week rain, hail or snow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 17, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?

We'll all get GAABoard tshirts for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Just realising that opening statement sounded a bit dodgy. I don't want to do a bit of that Orior.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on November 18, 2011, 06:49:25 AM
Trasna- what county are you refereeing in? I know a few Senior Armagh referees who would be nowhere near 20min for 2 miles, let alone 15-16.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 18, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Just realising that opening statement sounded a bit dodgy. I don't want to do a bit of that Orior.

How disappointing  :(

Maybe Rois would like a bit?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 18, 2011, 11:10:01 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?
the referees in Derry haven't had to do a fitness test for a few years now but i would think a good few would make it croke park are insisting on fitness tests for referees in all county's for next season
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 18, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 18, 2011, 06:49:25 AM
Trasna- what county are you refereeing in? I know a few Senior Armagh referees who would be nowhere near 20min for 2 miles, let alone 15-16.
i have been told Tyrone have a very strict fitness test which you must pass to get on the club championship panel even to do the line which is serious but i think the referees that want to progress give it a right go
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 18, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?

Easy would probably be around 8 minutes 30. Also doing a 10k on saturday. Seeley?
Yep, running that race also. Good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 20, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
46.55 for the 10k yesterday, way down on my best, went out too hard considering my lack of training in last few weeks. Gives me a target to aim for for the next one tho! How did you go imtommygunn?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
Low 37s, Was hoping for better but sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 20, 2011, 06:17:20 PM
Did 22.45 yesterday for 5km.

Got to 21.50 this morning. Bolding looking to beat 20 now in two weeks time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
The Castleblayney 5KM flat run on this Sunday, plenty of interest and bodies signed up already for anyone in the region that is interested.

I doubt i'll break the 20min mark. Did 21.22 last weekend in wet and windy conditions, so maybe if I get under 21min on the day, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 01, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
Best of luck Bingo. Hope it goes well for you and the 20min mark will fall eventually even if its not this Sunday, weather might not be kind. Out with an ITB for the last few weeks so can't make the spin up but hope to be back training next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:44:37 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 01, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
Best of luck Bingo. Hope it goes well for you and the 20min mark will fall eventually even if its not this Sunday, weather might not be kind. Out with an ITB for the last few weeks so can't make the spin up but hope to be back training next week.

Cheers Ballinaman.

Weather looks like it will be cold and light rain, hoping thats as bad as it gets  - no wind or heavy rain.

I'm going to start training for the longer distances after christmas - doing a Duathlon over in Castlebar in March - about 38km - run/bike/hiking up a mountain/hill. Then the Gaelforces as well. Dublin has a new city centre half marathon on August bank holiday, so eyeing that as well. If all going well at that stage, i'll take on the dublin marathon. I'd actually be happier going at longer, slower pace that busting trying to beat the clock. But time will tell, could well turn in new year and do feck all, but my pal is very motivated and is pushing me down this line.

Hope the injury clears up and you back on the flat in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on December 01, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
The duathlon in castlebar is a real toughie, the run is a killer, super steep on a cracked service road
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 01, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
The duathlon in castlebar is a real toughie, the run is a killer, super steep on a cracked service road

Yeah, been told that alright. Will be plenty of hill and trail running in new year, which isn't a problem round my way. Will be good prep for the two Gael Forces, North and West.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 05, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on December 05, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 05, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)

Ah, the reason for exercise! ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 08, 2011, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 05, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)
Good going!
Im running a 10k on Saturday at Drum Manor forest in Cookstown. Trail race,  2 laps, its a good one if any of the runners on here fancy it. Only £3/4 to enter. Starts at 12. And maybe ill sample a few of the aforementioned pints on saturday evening as way of reward!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 09, 2011, 02:38:09 PM
Sounds like a good run out, not make this one.

Is their a website for races, runs etc in NI, i know we have runireland.com but it doesn't seem to have too many NI runs on it which would suit me at times if I'm looking for a blow out the odd weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 09, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
The fixture lists here are usually bang up to date.

http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures (http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 13, 2011, 07:46:49 PM
I was hoping for a bit of advice about a half marathon.  I started running in August with my only previous experience of the sport coming from GAA fields and the infamous opening lines at training of 'right lads, round the field, 10 laps'.  I've developed a fierce liking for the sport and having done a couple of fun runs, i've got my distances up to between 8 and 10 miles.  I've signed up for the Liverpool Half Marathon on 18th March (very considerate organisers! :-[) but don't really know what approach to take to training.  Should I build up my distance to 13.1 miles or more than that or less?  In the weeks coming up to it, should I be reducing the regularity of running or what?  Any advice would be gratefully received.  Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
Build up the time on your feet rather than distance... Dunno what you'll do a half marathon in but try and get your weekend run to be that. Long runs should be relatively easy - i.e. don't be busting yourself pacewise on them and build up.

During the week try and get one in of about an hour and a quarter or so - a reasonable distance.

Bingo pretty much every race in NI is on that site.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2011, 09:50:07 AM
Cheers for the NI calender link, will keep an eye on it.

Have a few run outs over Christmas, weather going well. 4 of us doing the Hell and Back 10km in Wicklow at end of January, seems a bit of craic and a tough enough run out.

Re the half marathon running, their is plenty of training plan available online. Gerry Duffy has a few on his website 32marathons. Not bad guides for building up distances. Few of the lads that would run locally would tell you much the same as Tommygun - all about getting the runs in the legs and building up to distance and you'll notice time improving with gentle pushes. One of the lads swears by doing hill running as building up the legs for distance running. But i am far from an expert on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=24629 (http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=24629)

Bingo great article on hills there. Running times is the best place on the web for training session stuff - great site.

Hills are massively beneficial and should be in your long run. Best to get some endurance on the flat first though...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2011, 11:17:57 AM
Cheers Tommy

I'll have a read of that. Its hard to avoid hills round our way so I've always tended to do a bit of both and would defo think that the hills and the step ones in particular really help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 14, 2011, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Never felt the need for leggings meself in the cold, shorts are always grand. Have a few cantebury under armour esque tops the i wear though in the cauld weather!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 14, 2011, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Never felt the need for leggings meself in the cold, shorts are always grand. Have a few cantebury under armour esque tops the i wear though in the cauld weather!

i have a few canterbury tops for the top half but was curious about the effectiveness of the leggings.  of course, if you read the product reviews from the manufacturers they are essential, i was just looking general opinions on them if anyone has a pair
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
Ronhill tracksters 12 quid on start fitness.

You're fine unless it gets towards minus. Temperatures last year you'd no choice but to wear the bottoms.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
have any of you who live round the border ever done the armagh 10 mile road race?  or is it even still organised?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 14, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
have any of you who live round the border ever done the armagh 10 mile road race?  or is it even still organised?
you have missed this year, its on in October. Ran it last year, nice run.
Bingo, try the Greencastle 5 miler on Boxing Day, its some run. Remeber last year talking to a couple of lads from Emyvale on the way round. you'll run a good time too, especially with 400 odd Tyrone hallions running after you! Enough to help man set a PB!!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
glad to hear it's still going, i was involved in the organising of it about 10 years when i was on a student placement from university.  i might try to get back home for it next year if i haven't jacked the whole lot in by then
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 15, 2011, 05:58:26 PM
Leaveherinsir, the greencastle run sounds risky with all those tyrone heads about  ;) There is a local 5miler on St Stephens day, a small charity run, so I'll do it to take the turkey outa the system.

Emyvale actually having a 5/10km run on New Years Day, so if I avoid an outing or party on New Years eve, I'll do the 5km.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Thinking of doing the run this weekend. I know its free and you need your bar code, so what time do most arrive at? 15 minutes before race? Do you have to register before the off? Parking? Cheers in advance lads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 11, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Thinking of doing the run this weekend. I know its free and you need your bar code, so what time do most arrive at? 15 minutes before race? Do you have to register before the off? Parking? Cheers in advance lads

Most people arrive about 9:15am. There is plenty of parking on the Cavehill Road opposite the police station.

No need to register at the start - you just show your bar code when you cross the finish line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 11, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Jan/Feb seem quiet enough months for runs/races/events etc.

8 of us have signed up for the 10km Hellandback challenge in Wicklow at end of January. 10km with a about 16 obsticles to navigate and a trip up the sugar loaf included as well. Should be a bit of craic if nothing else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 11, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Did that Greencastle "run" on Boxing Day - jeez was I unfit!!! 

Getting back to it now and whilst I could walk from my house to the Waterworks run, I still haven't reconciled myself to the idea of getting up that early on a Sat morn. 

I really need a 10k to start to aim for, but that Hellandback thing is NOT what I am looking for. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 11, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 11, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Did that Greencastle "run" on Boxing Day - jeez was I unfit!!! 

Getting back to it now and whilst I could walk from my house to the Waterworks run, I still haven't reconciled myself to the idea of getting up that early on a Sat morn. 

I really need a 10k to start to aim for, but that Hellandback thing is NOT what I am looking for.

Sure why not. Its a great challenge. As i said very little to aim for in Jan/Feb, particularly up my way. Come February their is a few Duathlons on that i'm taking on with, once i dust the bike down.

Did 2 10km runs over Christmas - St Stephens Day and New years day. Did 43m 40s on new years day which I was very happy with, it would have been my 4th 10km run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on January 11, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Jez, I would have thought that was decent? What speed did ya have it on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on January 11, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Jez, I would have thought that was decent? What speed did ya have it on?

Started on 8.5 mph for 16 mins and dropped it for a minute and a half then finished on 9.5 mph. I think I can go quicker on the machine but I'll wait and see what the roads do
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 11, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.
In my experience if you get a flat run on the road in good weather conditions you should be able to go faster than on a treadmill. Esp in a race, you get dragged along by the runners around you. Try for 7 mins per mile for the first two mile in a 5k and see if you can up it for the last mile and a bit! Good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cavan4sam on January 11, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
Bingo, let me know what duathlons are coming up? I wouldn't mind doing a few of these myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 13, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 11, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
Bingo, let me know what duathlons are coming up? I wouldn't mind doing a few of these myself

Sorry cavan4sam just seeing this now.
http://www.runireland.com/events/sportsman-duathlon-race-1 (http://www.runireland.com/events/sportsman-duathlon-race-1) Have doing a few of these in mind.

This is the target http://www.runireland.com/events/harlequin-adventure-duathlon (http://www.runireland.com/events/harlequin-adventure-duathlon)

The local club, Tri Muckno, have their annual Duathlon in Castleblayney on St Patricks day. Haven't finalised details yet.

If i hear of any others I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Did my first Parkrun today, good craic and well run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on January 14, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

must have been cart horse slow or else you'd be bummin and blowin  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Did my first Parkrun today, good craic and well run.

Did it as well MR but forgot my bar code. Hadn't been running much recently so took it easy. I pushed past your clubmate at about 3 or 4k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 14, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

must have been cart horse slow or else you'd be bummin and blowin  :)

No bummin or blowing, finished up on 21.55, i could have done it a wee bit better, only three lads past me, two at the end (clubmate!!) and some bloke about 4k in. Probably imommygunn  ;)

So thats my target to beat next time i run, Fcuk it was cold
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 14, 2012, 04:55:20 PM
190 runners was a good turn out. When I did it on New Years Day there was only 41 eejits.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 15, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
I was only passed late on imtommygunn. The guy with pram was just in front of me. Running with a good looking blade ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 15, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 15, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(

Beat up the kid.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 15, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 15, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(

Beat up the kid.  ;)

He would if he could catch him :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
He gets carried down hills by that buggy - cheating...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 16, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
A few of the local runners always go for a sunday morning run - 9/10 miles. I've never done that distance before but been getting to it. So one of them suggested I come with them.

So I head and one of them who sets the route tells them he has a new route for them today.

Off we set and 13miles later, I am crawling home. Plus it was over the biggest hill in the area.

Was serious hard 2/3 miles to come home, run was more a slow jog and a shuffle!

At least its done now, wouldn't have went of I'd know what distance they were doing but only one of them knew.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 16, 2012, 11:26:34 AM
I bought a new pair of nike running trainers there and decided to get the app for the iphone. Has anyone on here used it? Is it any good or am I just a sucker for some Nike marketing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2012, 04:34:19 PM
I don't use it but I've a mate who does and speaks well of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: flantheman82 on January 16, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on January 16, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
The Runkeeper app records times, distances and maps, and it's free. Can't fault it myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: flantheman82 on January 16, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!

Stop f**king eating  :D :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on January 16, 2012, 10:38:09 PM
That's a good time MR for a debut.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: flantheman82 on January 17, 2012, 07:06:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: flantheman82 on January 16, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!

Stop f**king eating  :D :D



I've been looking at that too but I've had no option but to cut out the fatty foods as I can't cope with them anymore. Have to get my gallbladder removed in next few months. Just waiting on a date. So at minute, hopefully not gaining weight. Just need to start losing it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 17, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 16, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
The Runkeeper app records times, distances and maps, and it's free. Can't fault it myself.

Yep, never had a problem with runkeeper.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2012, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 16, 2012, 10:38:09 PM
That's a good time MR for a debut.

I will probably try again the following Saturday and try and get a few more seconds off it. Need to regulate my breathing better i think. I never tried to sprint the last hundred yards or so. Longer legs would help  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on January 17, 2012, 12:43:41 PM
Folks, I was supposed to do the 12kms City-to-Surf run in Perth last August and was travelling brave n well but got a nasty hand injury, about a month beforehand, which put me in a splint for two weeks as I severed two tendons so had to wear a finger cast.  Well, I couldn't run as the pain was feckin deadly at rest.  Anyhow, I was off sport of any kind for over three months.  Needless to say the fitness took a bit of a knock. 
However, I was trawling through the local online rag and found this website for a training regime for women.  Ignore the fact that it is advertised for hersell, I am using it and am making good steady progress.  I am going to do the 12kms again and am at Week 4 level, managing the 4kms under 20 minutes.  If I can get consistent sub-60 minute times by July, I may look at doing the 22kms to see if I can finish it.

I'm still using Mizuno shoes which I find have superb arch and heel support and are well aerated.  I have a fitting done when I go to buy new shoes.

Does any of the lads wear Skins-type clothing and if so is it worth the money or another gimmick?

Anyways, here is the site address:
http://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/collections/sydney+running+festival,135

Let's know what you think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 30, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Did the hellandback yesterday outside Bray, what an event! I can see why the purist road runners mightn't be interested but for something different, its really good.

The weather really added to it and their was muck throught even without the actual challenges on the course that had alot of mud and water anyhow. 8 of us done it and all said they'be be back to have another craic at it.

Hats off to the fella in the swamp who thought he could plough through the middle rather than navigate the sides like everyone else and he came a cropper, covered from head to toe and had to dragged out by two lads as he struggled to get his footing in it. At least he got a washing in the river crossing about 1km further along.

Plenty of GAA jerseys on show as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on January 30, 2012, 11:19:51 AM
thinking of doin a marathon in june,  wat sort of miles should you ideally be doing in the run up to the event.  i am currently averaging  18mile per week.  i wont get running as much though when football starts up again nxt week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 30, 2012, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on January 30, 2012, 11:19:51 AM
thinking of doin a marathon in june,  wat sort of miles should you ideally be doing in the run up to the event.  i am currently averaging  18mile per week.  i wont get running as much though when football starts up again nxt week.

For taking on that run you'd be as well following a running plan - http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/ (http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/) seem to be very popular.

In fairness, I would find it very hard on the body to be doing such a run in the middle of a football season. Two completely different type of training and would put massive strain on the body. Maybe some of the other more experienced runners will advise but I know don't many who would take on the both.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2012, 09:22:54 PM
You'd be needing to be hitting your 18 miles and then some as your long run.

It all depends how seriously you want to take it but you'll not be playing much football for a few weeks after it. You could probably get by on 30 mile a week but the less preparation you do the more pain you will feel round it and the longer you will take to recover.

I wouldn't recommend it in the middle of a season. Dublin is in october and wouldn't clash as much with the football season.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on February 16, 2012, 02:48:31 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/

I checked out that website and there are a couple of decent training programmes there. 

That link I attached before is loosely based on a Fartlek/Interval training programme.  I am enjoying it and have completed week 5.  Must admit I'm mainly running on a treadmill (with the occasional run with a mate) and the heat over here right now (and associated dehydration) is a major problem.  Fluid intake is vital.

There are a couple of 10Ks coming up so if I can get the time off work I'll run them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 16, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on February 16, 2012, 02:48:31 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/

I checked out that website and there are a couple of decent training programmes there. 

That link I attached before is loosely based on a Fartlek/Interval training programme.  I am enjoying it and have completed week 5.  Must admit I'm mainly running on a treadmill (with the occasional run with a mate) and the heat over here right now (and associated dehydration) is a major problem.  Fluid intake is vital.

There are a couple of 10Ks coming up so if I can get the time off work I'll run them.

post that link again aerlik if you dont mind, theres a good chap  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 17, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
10k race next Sunday fairly flat course with some beautiful scenery!

http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1267 (http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1267)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on February 18, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 20, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on February 18, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D
Quityojibbajabba, did you run this at the weekend, or are you going to measure it in the car sir??  ;) :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heganboy on February 21, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on February 18, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D


Measure it yourself:
http://walking.about.com/library/walk/blgooglemap1.htm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 21, 2012, 02:59:03 PM
Belfast's Titanic Quarter 10k the week before that, Sunday 22 April.  Also flat, run around the docks/east Belfast.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: LeoMc on February 21, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on February 18, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D

www.mapmyrun.com is a good way of checking out the routes you are planning / have done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 21, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on February 21, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive.

You can't really go too wrong with a Garmin. I have one of the older models the 205 but it is quite bulky compared to some of the others.

The forerunner 110 is a very good basic model, does most of what you would want but it doesn't have a HR monitor which some runners use alot. The 110 is normal watch size, few of the lads got it recently as the price has come down and they very happy with it. You should get it for less than €100 online.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.

You fully mended then and back on the roads?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.

You fully mended then and back on the roads?
Aye, just getting back into it now..concentrating on strength in the gym till June and will have another crack at marathon training after Poland! Night race looks cool though for a bit of a blow out!be happy with sub 38 in april, haven't done a tap of speedwork in months, just 5 a side soccer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 22, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on February 21, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive.

You can't really go too wrong with a Garmin. I have one of the older models the 205 but it is quite bulky compared to some of the others.

The forerunner 110 is a very good basic model, does most of what you would want but it doesn't have a HR monitor which some runners use alot. The 110 is normal watch size, few of the lads got it recently as the price has come down and they very happy with it. You should get it for less than €100 online.

Thanks for that Bingo .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on February 23, 2012, 08:05:04 AM
Mayobridge GAC are hosting a 10k run and 4k fun run/walk on the 5th May for anyone who is interested.  Join our facebook group if this sort of carryon appeals to you  http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/335381713170746/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 09:18:59 AM
I'm just coming back from 7 months out with a back injury, was on the flat of my back for that time.
Back running this last two weeks, a couple of 5ks and up to 9k. I've also started back at the track with the athletics club, is it a good idea or should I get mileage up first?
My thinking is once a week won't hurt, it'll be a while before I can even manage all the runs, 5x800m last week, only managed 3
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 09:18:59 AM
I'm just coming back from 7 months out with a back injury, was on the flat of my back for that time.
Back running this last two weeks, a couple of 5ks and up to 9k. I've also started back at the track with the athletics club, is it a good idea or should I get mileage up first?
My thinking is once a week won't hurt, it'll be a while before I can even manage all the runs, 5x800m last week, only managed 3
I'd say tip away with the mileage for about 6 weeks anyways to get a good base in. Once a week at this stage would be grand but i'd steer clear of the track if you can, the grass or even down the woods would have a bit more give than the track, ballina track ya?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
No, sure I steer clear of Ballina as much as I can  ;D

I'm based in Cork
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
No, sure I steer clear of Ballina as much as I can  ;D

I'm based in Cork
Sure i steer clear of that track too but I think you mean the town in general.... ;D

If it's a tartan track you'll be fine. One of the sections I did my thesis on runners was, injuries compared to surface. Worst to best was.....concrete,soft sand, road, asphalt track, woodland, tartan, hard sand, grass....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 11:59:48 AM
Interesting that soft sand is worse than road
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EagleLord on February 23, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
Soft sand not good for you? But you hear of loads of teams, in Down anyway running on the beaches etc.  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 11:59:48 AM
Interesting that soft sand is worse than road
More likely to develop calf strain and achilles problems from it, a lot of pressure on the fibres. Highest number of those type injuries came back from those who trained on it, would like to have another look at it again if i get the chance with a bigger subject number, had about 300 take part from athletic clubs in dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on February 23, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Surely a hell of a lot more ankle injuries on grass as opposed to any of the other surfaces??

A lot of things are starting to fit together here...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on February 23, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Surely a hell of a lot more ankle injuries on grass as opposed to any of the other surfaces??
No
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 28, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Would get stakes on to anyone interested in doing this. 5,000 limit and its filling quickly according to a lad i know in the AAI.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 28, 2012, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Would get stakes on to anyone interested in doing this. 5,000 limit and its filling quickly according to a lad i know in the AAI.

Cheers, was waiting on a few others to confirm if they doing it, so will get them sorted and sign up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on March 10, 2012, 08:56:24 AM
Have been doing a fair bit of running over past 6 months to point where I can do a 10k handy enough.

Problem is I have become very 1 paced. I am taking part in a 100m race in August - what training do I need to be at?

Is it weight for quads, calf and hamstrings in the gym or simply doing a lot of a lot of 100-200m runs?


Grateful for any help....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2012, 09:02:43 AM
Are all your runs at one pace? Start picking up between points in runs, do tempos, do shorter reps etc.

If you're interested in 100 / 200 speed then best start would be to start doing reps of shorter sprints. (< 100 metres). You can build in pliometrics but best start is probably to maximise what you've got and ensure if you want to increase your speed you target your speed when you train...

If it's longer distance speed then runs called tempos, fartleks in longer runs and hill reps / 400 reps are ideal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on March 12, 2012, 08:53:57 PM
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If this of interest to anyone feel free to join our Facebook group
http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/335381713170746/ (http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/335381713170746/)

I haven't done any running before but went for a quick run tonight, did 2k in 13mins and was fairly wrecked.  Any advice on what I need to do to finish this 10k would be appreciated.  Its a fairly tough hilly 10k as well.  Can anyone recomend a good android app which might help me pace myself and keep track of runs.  Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 22, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
Harlequin Duathlon this Saturday morning in Castlebar - 36km altogether with 22km of it on bike. Will be tough, thoughts I'd have more done on the bike but will struggle through it anyway. Don't think I'll have to worry about a speach after it anyway.

Done a local Duathlon on Paddys day, the run was strong but bike is weak.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 22, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 23, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 22, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/

Cheers, as far as i know its a hilly enough race. Hills on first cycle out to a bigger hill to run up and down - known locally as the Boaster?

I'll give it a go anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2012, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 23, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 22, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/

Cheers, as far as i know its a hilly enough race. Hills on first cycle out to a bigger hill to run up and down - known locally as the Boaster?

I'll give it a go anyway.
Aye, the booster. trained there once. The first 1/2 km of it is an incline, flating out then a bit and downhill until about 2km, then the incline begins and is steady for the next 2km or so. Then its turn and back down the 4km, all tarmac.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2012, 10:36:48 AM
I looking a new pair of trainers, Looking something reasonably priced but a decent shoe all the same. I'm running 4 days a week albeit at the gym but with the good weather I'll possibly be out on the toe path.

I'm off to the States in July so was thinking of holding out till then and maybe getting better value and choice over there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
start fitness or sweatshop.co.uk are good places for cheaper gear online MR.

You'd not go far wrong with asics.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on March 27, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2012, 10:36:48 AM
I looking a new pair of trainers, Looking something reasonably priced but a decent shoe all the same. I'm running 4 days a week albeit at the gym but with the good weather I'll possibly be out on the toe path.

I'm off to the States in July so was thinking of holding out till then and maybe getting better value and choice over there.

Go to a proper running store and get fitted by people who know what they are doing. Eg. in Belfast "Up & Running" http://www.upandrunning.co.uk/belfast.html . They have a treadmill where they will video you running before suggesting something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 30, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
Patsy Kelly 5km race on in Dundalk tomorrow evening. Fairly flat 5km and Glan Na Gael GFC are involved in the running of it. Registration open until 5.30 at the Glans clubhouse, race at 6.30.

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on April 01, 2012, 09:06:42 AM
Disappointed not to run in today's Asics Bridges 5km run.  Had a stomach infection and had a 4-week spell off training and only returned last week.  Then the nephew arrived on the scene from Sydney...near liver failure on Friday night  ;D ... no state to do it.

Several races coming up in the next few months in the Perth area if anyone on here is in the area and interested.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 01, 2012, 09:12:10 AM
Ran the Omagh Half Marathon yesterday. P.B. 1:38:43!! Delighted with the time, wasnt even considering running under 1;40 beforehand!  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
fair play, great running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on April 01, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 01, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: tyroneboi on April 01, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?
never ran Newry before, but if you are looking for a run, there is a 5 miler in Magherafelt on Saturday 14th April, or a 10k the following day in Armagh
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on April 01, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?

Considering doing that one myself. I think a lot is kind of tow path running. I hear there's a hill at 8 or 9 mile but a lot of the rest of it is relatively flat. Never done it though but just what I hear.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on April 01, 2012, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on April 01, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?

Considering doing that one myself. I think a lot is kind of tow path running. I hear there's a hill at 8 or 9 mile but a lot of the rest of it is relatively flat. Never done it though but just what I hear.
your spot on. done it last year. starts with a lap of the town then out the towpath towards tandragee. loops back towards newry with a long stretch along the tow path and finishes outside buttercrane shopping centre. towpath stretch can be a bit boring if your running on your own. would recommend it though. well run and organised.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?

Whatever gets you off your ass is a start. Follow that plan with an 8 week balanced diet also Laoislad. Weight will eventually drop off, I hate running, but manage to do 5k 4 days a week. For me it's the best way to lose the belly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 07:37:15 PM
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html (http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html)

Runners world plan for run-walk. I've heard good reports about it too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 07:37:15 PM
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html (http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html)

Runners world plan for run-walk. I've heard good reports about it too.
Cheers tommy. Seems like a good starting point (as well as not eating crisps and Yorkies out of the machine at work every day!).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 01, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 01, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.

I have Day 2 Week 1 done,was suppose to do Day 3 tonight but didn't get round to it but will go tomorrow night.
btw there are a few different apps that do the same,the one I'm using is this one http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/run-5k/id313494823?mt=8
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 01, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.

I have Day 2 Week 1 done,was suppose to do Day 3 tonight but didn't get round to it but will go tomorrow night.
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Ach that's you on the slide already. You're only fooling yourself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 01, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Is it a bad omen to make a resolution on April Fool's Day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 12:13:41 PM
The couch to 5k plans are great and the way to go for sure. Far better than just heading out and trying to run. The missus started one last Oct and done a 5km race in December, she wouldn't have run up the stairs before that. Now she is doing a 10km plan.

Their is also online plans for all types of goals - fat burning, fast 5km, first 5km, etc etc.

I started running again last summer and its amazing all the different aspects to it now. If i do 3/4 runs a week - all are to cover different aspects from slow, long runs, to short fast runs to Interval running to hill running etc etc. Far more to it that just running if thats what you want from it. Of course other people I know will just run for the enjoyment and thats fine as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EC Unique on April 02, 2012, 12:32:22 PM
What height are you LL?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

I'm suppose to be doing the Boyne 10km on the 6th. Its a bit close to the Dundalk half, so have to decide yet. More obliged to the Boyne 10km as a friend is doing a run from Claremorris to Drogheda in 5 days - a marathon a day in July. Its for The Tania McCabe foundation and the charity also host the Boyne 10km, so he is been introduced at the 10km and asked if we'd be on hand to support him as his fundraising kicks off. He was in alot of the national papers on it last week.

I would imagine that their is a few hills in it as Drogheda is more of less on a hill. But i think alot of it is run by the Boyne itself, so that should mean its largely flat. 33mins won it last year.

Having another craic at a 5km this Monday, back in Dundalk as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

I'm suppose to be doing the Boyne 10km on the 6th. Its a bit close to the Dundalk half, so have to decide yet. More obliged to the Boyne 10km as a friend is doing a run from Claremorris to Drogheda in 5 days - a marathon a day in July. Its for The Tania McCabe foundation and the charity also host the Boyne 10km, so he is been introduced at the 10km and asked if we'd be on hand to support him as his fundraising kicks off. He was in alot of the national papers on it last week.

I would imagine that their is a few hills in it as Drogheda is more of less on a hill. But i think alot of it is run by the Boyne itself, so that should mean its largely flat. 33mins won it last year.

Having another craic at a 5km this Monday, back in Dundalk as well.
Cool, I think i'll give it a run, be nice to have the samsung 10km and another one in the legs before the half marathon, good to know where i'm at. I'd be happy to donate if you drop us a PM.

Fair play LL, we'll have you hooked yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
25% asics runners in lifestyle sports when you bring in an old pair (any brand) to be recycled. Savage deal, got the 2070's on Saturday. Offer ends at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
25% asics runners in lifestyle sports when you bring in an old pair (any brand) to be recycled. Savage deal, got the 2070's on Saturday. Offer ends at the end of the week.

That's a fair deal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

Pretty wrecked.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

I'll keep you updated.

I started on Day 1 again.
Downloaded a different app and it's much tougher than other. 60secs run 90secs walk for 30mins for week 1. Other app was 30secs run 4mins walk so was a bit too handy.
Day 1 Week 1 done last night 4.8km between running and walking in 33mins. Day 2 tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

Didn't know there was a scrappage scheme.
The pair I got were €50 down from €75 in Elverys .
Asics Gel Enduro 7 with a nice black and orange combo colour scheme!
Didn't want to spend a fortune in case I quit half way through. :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 04, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

i was half thinking of doing this Ballinaman . Ran 16k the other day and didn't feel too bad . Is it a tough route ? I thought that 45yo yo's entry fee is a bit steep but maybe it's the going rate for these events.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 11:36:25 AM
45yoyos is about right, you get a very generous goody bag in fairness to them and the t-shirt is decent too. It's well organised and the chip timing is good too. I did it last year for the 1st time and was impressed. It's a good course too, starts at the rugby club, up the quay...right at bridge and up hill by milk factory, under the arch and out onto kilala road...right at the half way house and back the back road until you take a left where its a 2 mile section through the woods. Up by soccer club and track and back down to the rugby club again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 04, 2012, 12:11:54 PM
Ballina half marathon!  Any chance they will extend it to be a full marathon in the future? How many people run in this? Deel, if you ran 16 k, you are well able to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 01:08:10 PM
226 last year, say there will be close to 400 hundred this year. Big crowd come over from Leeds, they had 30 last year and more of the same again. I'd say they'll keep it to the half marathon only.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 04, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
laoislad, I went from a standing start in May to training for and running the Dublin half marathon (which incidentally was €24 or something like that to enter) in September.   

The Dublin marathon series is pretty useful as they build up through a few events starting with a 5 mile, then a 10k, then a 10 mile, half marathon and then full marathon, all based around Dublin.

Of course I didn't run from September to March, so I am now having to start all over again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 04, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

if you said to me 5 months ago that i'd be thinking of running a 1/2 marathon i'd say you were mad. Just take it Gradually Laoislad and you will find it does get addictive. As for entering these events all you have to do is register no need to be a member of a club.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on April 04, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
Try out on a fun-run.  Are there any local to you?

If you are near Ballyjamesduff on 6th May there is a 5 km fun run/20km cycle event.

http://www.castlerahan.gaa.ie/club-videos
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 04, 2012, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 03, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

I'll keep you updated.

I started on Day 1 again.
Downloaded a different app and it's much tougher than other. 60secs run 90secs walk for 30mins for week 1. Other app was 30secs run 4mins walk so was a bit too handy.
Day 1 Week 1 done last night 4.8km between running and walking in 33mins. Day 2 tomorrow night.

Day 1 week 1 85kgs

Decided to put it off as I haven't the right gear. Wife finds gear.
Crap.

No runners. Wife finds 12 year old but perfectly good runners. Crap.

Feet don't fit into runners. Surely your feet don't get fat as well? Got them in with encouragement from wife. Crap.

60/90 run/jog

I am everything every women complains about in a man.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 04, 2012, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

No need to be a member of any club or the like.

If i was you and to help the focus, I'd look at the event calender on runireland.com and target a 5km run near the end of your programme. Enter it and use that as a target/motivation. Its always easier to keep at it when committed to something. Plus running in an event, you'll surprise yourself and may actually enjoy it.

You don't have to shout from the rooftops that you'll be doing it, its for yourself and will be a PB regardless.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

The "races" are great to be part of and good for the focus. There are usually all ages, shapes and sizes there. When you start running there is always the fear of coming last in these things and looking silly. It is highly unlikely to happen though. Try one and you'd be amazed.

Most of running is the challenge to yourself and no-one else too. If or once you get into it then you can challenge your time each time you run etc but when you start just doing the event is the challenge. It's just about stepping stones and is where everyone starts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 07:56:56 PM
Echo what the two lads have said above, don't worry about anyone else and just enjoy it. It'll be tough in the early stages but that'll soon pass and you'll be tipping along nicely before you know it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
I'm nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

The "races" are great to be part of and good for the focus. There are usually all ages, shapes and sizes there. When you start running there is always the fear of coming last in these things and looking silly. It is highly unlikely to happen though. Try one and you'd be amazed.

Most of running is the challenge to yourself and no-one else too. If or once you get into it then you can challenge your time each time you run etc but when you start just doing the event is the challenge. It's just about stepping stones and is where everyone starts.

So true, I found it difficult to work out pace when running outside on my own than what i was doing in the gym, but when you are with a crowd running it, it really spurs you on. I was surprised with my times after that.

I'm actually looking to do a triathlon in June FFS, and I wouldn't have thought I was good at swimming/,cycling or running!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2012, 10:06:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?
Haven't quite got round to starting yet  :-[

Had a chinese this evening, just ate a Caramel and have had the first sup of Guinness. Next week laoislad, next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?

Day 2 Week 1 done today.

Unlike you, I stuck with the zimmerframe slowly does it App. Boy am I glad I did.

Day 3 soon, will be grand.

Not looking forward to the step up from 60 secs to 90 secs next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
Right what apps are youse using?

The one I have is RunDouble
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
C25K Free (as in couch to 5k)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
Couch to 5k Active is the name of the one I have.
I even have a Army Drill Sargent roaring abuse at me if Im not doing it right though you can also have a sexy lady voice giving you advice during your run if you don't like being verbally abused by the army dude.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cavan4sam on April 07, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Maybe some of you lads might be interested in this.

25K Fun Challenge
Castlerahan GAA will host a 25K Fun Challenge and family fun day on Sunday, 6th May 2012 at Fay Park Ballyjamesduff, Co Cavan.

The race element of the day will begin at 12 p.m. sharp with a 5 kilometre run followed by a 20 kilometre cycle.  The start and finish lines for both elements of the challenge will be at Castlerahan GAA's grounds - Fay Park - in Ballyjamesduff.

Entry is open to individuals who wish to compete in both events or a team of two individuals; one to complete the run, the other the cycle. The emphasis on the day is fun and we anticipate that this will be a successful and well-run event which we would hope to make an annual occurrence.

The entry fees are as follows;

    An individual adult competing in both events can do so for €15
    A team of two adults can compete for €20
    An individual juvenile (aged 14 to 18 years) competing in both events can do so for €10
    A team of two juveniles (both aged 14 to 18 years) can compete for €15

There will be prizes for the first finishing male and female adult individuals and adult team. There will also be prizes for the first finishing male and female juvenile individuals and juvenile team.

Showering facilities and refreshments will be provided to all competitors free of charge.

For more info on registration and routes visit: http://www.castlerahan.gaa.ie and follow the links.

Hope to see some of you there on the day.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Ran the Mountpleasant 5km this afternoon outside Dundalk. Very wet but managed to do it in 19.57, so broke the 20 min mark for first time. Fairly happy with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Ran the Mountpleasant 5km this afternoon outside Dundalk. Very wet but managed to do it in 19.57, so broke the 20 min mark for first time. Fairly happy with that.

Are you running long Bingo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.

Fair play. When did you start and were you a couch potato beforehand or were you still pretty fit?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 08:49:32 PM
Good running Bingo.

Funny thing about running is that when you meet a target you set yourself you just end up setting another one so you'll need a new target now!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 09, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.

Fair play. When did you start and were you a couch potato beforehand or were you still pretty fit?

Wouldn't have called myself a fully fledged couch potato but was getting there. Always played a bit of football and more recently 5 a side but it was getting infrequent, so had to start something. That was last July. Started running regularly in September and still on bike as well.

Tommy - doing a few 10kms now and a half marathon in may. 40 min 10km be target but long way off, about 4mins to be exact!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 10, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.

Have been doing a bit recently and some interval runs as well - 400m at fast pace, jog for 400m and repeat. Doing about 8 reps of that.

Have a few Tempo running programmes for 10km that I will probably try and follow in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 12, 2012, 08:40:27 AM
Strongly considering getting started to try and run a marathon again. I haven't ran seriously in about a year or so. I had previously signed up to do Dublin but got injured two weeks before it. Do any of you have a good schedule for about 20 weeks? I see a lot of ones online but I don't like the run for 20mins Tuesday, then run for 30 mins Thursday etc ones. I would prefer set miles. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 17, 2012, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 10, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.

Have been doing a bit recently and some interval runs as well - 400m at fast pace, jog for 400m and repeat. Doing about 8 reps of that.

Have a few Tempo running programmes for 10km that I will probably try and follow in the coming weeks.
i found tempo running has been working for me, ive been doing 30 mins, got up to 4.3 mile roughly. ran a 5 mile race on sat past and set a new p.b. of 33min 24secs.  Then on sunday i ran a 10k and set another p.b of 43min 10sec. Also had a ran half marathon at end of march, doing the longer (10 mile) training runs helps the strength. And a few runs in the Sperrins makes the runs on flatter ground easier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
Very good leaveherinsir.

I ran sub 36 for the first time on Sunday in that great ireland run in dublin.

Some turnout at it and I'm told Bekele was in a class of his own but I didn't see too much of him! 27:47 and on that course too is unbelievable.

Ballinaman, if you're reading, did you do the great ireland?

Lurganblue runningtimes is the best online resource for running. Not sure if there schedules are miles or minutes though but sure just roughly translate one to the other if needbe based on training times. Have a look on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 18, 2012, 10:15:41 AM
Didn't run it...clashed with the Mayo match, went for an 18 miler around the park that morning though. Seemed like a serious buzz around the place, I was finishing up when the junior race had started. The course seemed tough enough because I normally do the park anti clockwise skirting the walls and there are a fair few hills the other way around. Fair play on sub 36, huge run. Doing the night run on Sunday week, league final is on earlier in the day and will only be itching for a pint if we win.. ;D. First race since the Marathon so should be interesting to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
It was hilly last 5k alright and a mad amount of people about.

One of my training mates doing that night time run which sounds like a good one. I wouldn't fancy a league final first but wouldn't know being from antrim :-[

5k next for me and then back to the drawing board for training to try and get another chunk of my time and maybe do a half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 18, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
You did well to do a PB in a race with such a large field, can be like interval training at the start dodging people. Aye, serious drag at 5km to 6 km and 7km to 8km, usually happy to be going down those hills. Night run looks like a flat course so we'll see how it goes, am sure enough nervous energy will be expended knowing Mayo though...ye'll be there in the hurling soon enough maybe?!?
Half on 12th of May is the big one for me, home turf and would love to do sub 1.23

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
In with the "elites" at the start so missed the masses as I was about 4 rows back...(it's easy enough to get into - just need to be associated with a club)

1:23 would be a good time for a half. I've yet to do one properly so not sure where I'd be at.

Ha, yes Mayo always seem to keep their supporters guessing. Sure you beat them last year so no reason not to repeat that. Some day that will be us, some day...



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 19, 2012, 04:44:54 PM
Registered for this Nightrun myself. Should be interesting and i'd expect it to be a fast route with hopefully the wind at our back going down by the Liffey!

Serious time their imtommygunn. I'll not be in that league for the 10km, looking round the 43/44m mark myself. Haven't been doing as much running last few weeks as I'd have like to have been.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 19, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D

See ya at the starting line so   ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 19, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 19, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D

See ya at the starting line so   ;)
had to be said, fair play ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on April 19, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.
Wouldn't worry about anyone else's times, keep the head down with training and they'll fly down for ya!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 19, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 17, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
Very good leaveherinsir.

I ran sub 36 for the first time on Sunday

For 10k!

I know I only started two weeks ago but I wouldn't do 5k in that. Jebus.

Having said that still sticking with the App and have hit every target. Next week (wk4) is a big step up though. 16 minutes running with relatively short breaks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P

Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleafgael on April 20, 2012, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P

Lads,

Imtommygunn is 100% correct. I went from a complete couch potato to an 18 min 5k in under a year, when I started training I couldnt manage to run 5k non stop and my first non stop 5k was 31 mins. I would have done little to none physical activity since I packed the football in 5 years before that. What helped me was having someone else to train with who could tow me along when I was getting it tight, a very good club runner. Anything longer than 5k was just to sore on the body for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 20, 2012, 11:24:15 AM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on April 19, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.

Same here - though my aims are slightly more modest, I'd love to do it in an hr.  I was out last night and did 9k in about 50mins but that included stopping for about a minute or two after 4k and walking up a horrible hill around the 7k mark.  So I'm hopeful around the TQ route that at least the hill won't get in my way. 

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 20, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P
so thats how you run those fast times then, you are chasing girls round!!  I ran it last year, good race, very warm last year, i ran 44mins odd, so would hope to beat that. Those two races last weekend took it out of me tho!
P.s. Good Luck Rois!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 21, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
So I've found a schedule that I think suits me and I'm going to begin next week in preparation for Dublin marathon. I know I made a few mistakes in training the last time, going too fast on the long runs etc. any advice in terms of diet and supplements?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 22, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
So my first 10k race done in 56.43 and I'm now regretting not upping the pace a bit as I had more in me. Now on to the next one to beat that time. Flip it feels good though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 22, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 23, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
Anyone round Dublin and doing the mountain running? First of the summer series is off this Wednesday in Bray. Love it myself, a race every week and all levels there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 23, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: dillinger on April 22, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.

That's what I was afraid of and I think was why I didn't post a faster time - my second 5k was faster than the first and if I'd run at the second 5k pace throughout I'd have done it in 54.  Doing the long leg of the Belfast marathon relay in two weeks so going to aim for under 65 mins for 7.1 miles. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 23, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
10k = 6.25 or so miles so 7.1 won't bother you. It's ok to finnish a bit stronger, better than weaker at your stage. My money's on you doing 60 mins no prob. ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 23, 2012, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 23, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: dillinger on April 22, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.

That's what I was afraid of and I think was why I didn't post a faster time - my second 5k was faster than the first and if I'd run at the second 5k pace throughout I'd have done it in 54.  Doing the long leg of the Belfast marathon relay in two weeks so going to aim for under 65 mins for 7.1 miles.

The long leg of the Belfast marathon relay I believe is tight going with the vast majority of it being up hill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 23, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Not sure that I'd say the vast majority is uphill - there's a hilly bit at the start (but with some downhills mixed in with that), then along the Antrim Road which has a deceptive incline, but offset by running down from the Antrim Road to the loughshore (which is about 2 miles of the route), so it will be mixed up. 

Thankfully I live in that area and running along the Antrim Road is part of my usual route anyway.  Will just have to practice the first bit in the next two weeks. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Capt Pat on April 23, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
A woman died in the London marathon. 30 years oldClaire Squires was her name. She was a stone cold fox now she is stone cold dead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 23, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
42:05 for the TQ 10k yesterday.  Delighted, another 1min+ off the PB!  Was really pleased in that i ran at a steady pace throughout, every mile was within 10 seconds of each other.
Next goal will have to be sub 42!
Was a brilliant turnout yesterday, something like 1800 runners. Running really has increased in popularity in the last 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 23, 2012, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 23, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Not sure that I'd say the vast majority is uphill - there's a hilly bit at the start (but with some downhills mixed in with that), then along the Antrim Road which has a deceptive incline, but offset by running down from the Antrim Road to the loughshore (which is about 2 miles of the route), so it will be mixed up. 

Thankfully I live in that area and running along the Antrim Road is part of my usual route anyway.  Will just have to practice the first bit in the next two weeks.

I used to run up Grays Lane now and again, don't try that just yet. :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
Very sad about the girl dying in the marathon. At least her justgiving page is getting some money in for the samaritans now with 150+k raised. Pity it took that to raise it :(

25 miles she made it to.

Anyway - good running those who ran TQ. I think I am also doing the antrim road leg in the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 11:34:24 AM
Could never bottle out of a race, so win loose or draw today in Croker, will give this night run a go.

Looks like it'll be wet and windy, not great for times but sure no harm.

Half 8 start time has the usual race day eating times all over the shop though!

See ya in the red zone Bingo, i'll have a yellow Jamaica tshirt on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 29, 2012, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Not too bad. Only on midway through week 3 though as I had a few things happen that made it impossible to get time to run.
You'd notice missing a week or so as well, was going good but when I went back running after missing a week I felt I had gone backwards a bit.
Anyway determined to get to running 5k non stop even if it takes longer than the 8 week program.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 29, 2012, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Not too bad. Only on midway through week 3 though as I had a few things happen that made it impossible to get time to run.
You'd notice missing a week or so as well, was going good but when I went back running after missing a week I felt I had gone backwards a bit.
Anyway determined to get to running 5k non stop even if it takes longer than the 8 week program.

There are times I feel might have to do a week twice but I like you I am determined to see this out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
36.43(go by watch even though they have me as 36.49 gross!)..........happy enough considering the weather and haven't been doing 10km training really. Good to be back racing, plenty in the tank so should have a right go at the half marathon in 2 weeks.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 29, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Fair play lad, decent time in a dirty night. Finished at 41.56 myself, was targeting 43 or so but nearly ruled that out giving the night. Start was chaotic where I was with runners of all grades going, was dodge the person for up and down oconnell st, one girl even stopped to tie her lace in middle of road!

Really enjoyed it mind, had thought 30 was on high side but it was value for money I reckon. Would have been great atmosphere if weather been kinder. Think it will only get bigger next year.

I'll soon dry out and warm up!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
Good man, times would have been even better if it was a kinder night alright!Fair play to the stewards coming out on a night like it. I got a decent enough start but was baltic starting it! Ha, you serious...you get that with mass events though, people go off like the hammers of hell and blow up.

Cracking flat course though, will defo do it again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 29, 2012, 11:35:31 PM
Had expected a bit of pile up at start, worked out well as I tend to start like the hammers and suffer for it, more controlled today!!

I felt sorry for stewards and their was plenty of them! At least we were moving.

It would be a great event on a dry night. Course is super alright and my running buddy reckons it lot better than the great Ireland run he done few back, said he'd do that one again over the other.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on April 30, 2012, 01:27:19 AM
Done it myself and was aimining for around 45 for my first 10km or any sort of race. Hadn't been able to train for the last 4 weeks (in fact I reckon I only got 3 weeks training in) and hadn't run the full distance before. Ended up getting caught up in the last group (rookie mistake and won't happen again) to start and it was torture, was near 8 minutes from the gun going off until I went over the line. Started passing lots of people from the start and found it mentally tough as I thought I'd went off too quick; suppose if I'd been able to train more I'd have been confident of my pace. Ended up 55:06 and was slightly disapointed as I though I was around 50min pace. Looking back now I'm delighted as I was considering pulling out a week ago and the conditions were tough. At least now I have a good target to beat next time.
Have to say it was a great event and will deffinately do it again, even if the weather is that bad  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
Fair play bigfella, was a tough night for any run, never mind your first 10km. You'll soon get to grips with pacing yourself at start, very easy to read it round and tear off, as I often do.

Did either of you have a Garmin or the like? Mine give it a distance of 10.30km, mate was similar and I see some on boards.ie saying similar. Others say it was just short if you stuck to road. I did do a fair bit of weaving and moving to make up places, bit 300m is alot to be out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the greatest jockey on April 30, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
got under 20 minutes for a 5k last week, wondering if yous have any general training advice?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on April 30, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Normally I'd have the iPhone but it was just too wet. Heard a couple of people say it was over 10km though.
Done a fair bit of weaving myself, I'd say there was only 150 behind me at the start. O'connell street was torture and only really managed to find some proper space after the theatre. Some buzz when your running past everyone though in the last 4 km.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 30, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
Fair play bigfella, won't run many races in conditions as bad as that anyways!! Interesting Bingo, don't have a garmin myself though. The 90 degree turns round corners were dodgy enough with it being so wet, had to check the stride a fair few times to make sure i didn't take a tumble. Only spotted the 6km and 8km markers, were there any more?

Was gas in a race of 3,722 people from 7km-9km, I was totally by myself until I caught a few lads at the end. Felt like being out for a run by myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Doggy style running...I like it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Doggy style running...I like it.

Well, when one of the women runners stopped to bend over to tie her lace in the middle of O'Connell St I wouldn;t be surprised if it didn't cross a few minds  ;D

How is your 5km training going?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 04:06:12 PM
Was just saying a few posts back that I missed a week and a bit so only at week 3 now instead of week 5.
Felt I went backwards a bit after missing a week but I'll see it out till the end even if it kills me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 11:25:26 PM
Can you spot yourself Bingo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r92KJNfuXd0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 30, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
lazy heure, get off yer hole!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2012, 11:29:55 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on April 30, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
lazy heure, get off yer hole!  ;)
I will. Eventually!

Slipped back into eating shite in the evenings too - albeit less! I'll make a big effort from w/c 21st May right through the summer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 01, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Any doing the duathlon series in the Pheonix park tomorrow nite?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 02, 2012, 08:30:11 AM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 02, 2012, 10:04:18 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 11:25:26 PM
Can you spot yourself Bingo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r92KJNfuXd0&feature=player_embedded

I'll to be obviously funny and say I'm the guy in the yellow top  :( They actually have a video clip of you crossing the line but they seemed to get the camera postion wrong and mine is the back of some guy standing in front of the camera and a brief passing of my head.

Down to do the Boyne 10km on Sunday but planning a few pints and a night out after the cup final on Saturday, so it'll be a light run out to just complete the thing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Friends of mine are doing an Iron Man contest in Nice this June, they did a half Iron Man at the weekend 75 lengths of 25 metre pool, 50 miles on the bike and 13 mile run!! they did it in under 5h 50 minutes.

Any of our posters completed an Iron Man?

If they did half in that time, christ they won't finish the other one till dark!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 03, 2012, 09:35:21 AM
How'd you get on mayo4sam?

http://www.irishtriathlon.com/index.php/2012/05/phoenix-park-runways-duathlon/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 03, 2012, 09:56:37 AM
Did my 1st 10k in Foxford a couple of weeks ago finished in 44.30 which i was delighted with . Would love to do the 1/2 Marathon in Ballina but looks like i won't be around
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 06, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
So who is taking part the Belfast marathon tomorrow? I'm doing the Antrim Road leg and hope to have a few supporters out with banners which will be nice. Running it to raise money for the family of a colleague who was killed a year and a half ago. last year I said I couldn't run so just did the walk, but was determined to take part properly this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on May 07, 2012, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 02, 2012, 08:30:11 AM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.

Are people really paying 20 quid to run 3 miles of public road? I know  there's marshalling, timing etc to sort out, and there's usually a good cause attached - but this is a bit mad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Any of you guys ever experience numbness in your foot when running? Happens after about 40 mins of running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Any of you guys ever experience numbness in your foot when running? Happens after about 40 mins of running?

I had a similar problem years ago. At first I thought it was my shoes being too tight, or fallen arches but it turned out to be back problem. The back problem meant my pelvis was tilted and brought an early end to my Elvis impersonation career.

Because of the tilted pelvis, I was using one leg more than the other (how the hell did I ever run in a straight line?) which put more stress on one foot, which caused the numbness.

Check the soles of your running shoes - is one shoe showing slightly more wear than the other?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2012, 12:46:11 PM
No, it was never a problem at the start. I ran for about 5 years doing half marathons, 10ks, cross country and 60 mile a week in training.

I suspect that the problem was always there but my legs had been able to compensate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 07, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 07, 2012, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 02, 2012, 08:30:11 AM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.

Are people really paying 20 quid to run 3 miles of public road? I know  there's marshalling, timing etc to sort out, and there's usually a good cause attached - but this is a bit mad.
Yep, about 300 there today. Decent t-shirt, chip timing on a fast course. People like to compete, doing your own runs can get a bit boring.

Spending 20 euro on 4 pints could be seen as equally mad.........I wouldn't think you'd enjoy triathlons, you'd be in for a shock with the expense there anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 07, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.

Flip I had a numb foot after 3 miles the other week for the first time. Going to have to look at trainers now.

On another point, conditions were rotten in Belfast today, but that didn't stop the people of north Belfast (my leg) turning out in force - a credit to everyone in all communities. Families had set up their own water stations and were giving out their own boiled sweets. Really really heart warming, even if we all looked like drowned rats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 07, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.

Flip I had a numb foot after 3 miles the other week for the first time. Going to have to look at trainers now.

On another point, conditions were rotten in Belfast today, but that didn't stop the people of north Belfast (my leg) turning out in force - a credit to everyone in all communities. Families had set up their own water stations and were giving out their own boiled sweets. Really really heart warming, even if we all looked like drowned rats.

It was a seriously wet day today, me and my daughter went to the 25 mile marker today and parked up and stood out to cheer the runners on the last mile, we normally stand at the toe path at Hazelbank but were in town so thought we head there instead.


Some pain etched on peoples faces at that 25 mile point, fair play to anyone that does it and I may enter next year but we'll see doing 10 K is fine and dandy but the 26 miles is another animal altogether.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
Checked the sole of my trainers and they look equally worn orior. Went for a short run there and well loosened the laces. Still felt the numbness coming on. Gonna try a change of trainer next and see if that improves anything.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
Are they stability shoes lurganblue? I have felt this once or twice before on stability shoes when I should have been wearing neutrals so it was basically over cushioning.

If not how old are your trainers? 4-5 hundred miles would be recommended distance.

I know that you get GAIT analysis done in some shops with the trainers etc but not everyone doing this analysis knows what they're doing...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
They are stability shoes as the girl doing the gait analysis said it showed that I over pronate when I run. They wouldn't have anywhere near 400 miles of use yet. Closer to about 70/80 I'd say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 08, 2012, 10:36:33 PM
Any physios about...?
I was planning on starting training for Dublin marathon two weeks ago but instead done my ankle. (self-diagnosed as grade ii though probably wrong!)

Significant swelling from ankle down to toes, bruising from inside of ankle bone to the outside, as well as up the back of the leg a bit.

Swelling is almost completely gone as is most of the bruising. Toes remain bruised and slightly swollen. Foot is still quite tender. Can walk with only slight discomfort. How long, roughly, before I could do some light running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
70 or 80 would mean they're definitely not worn out.

The only experience I have had of anything like that would have been through wearing stability shoes when they should have been neutral. Whether that is consistent with what you're getting I'm not sure but it's not impossible that the girl could be wrong either.

Here's an article on it: http://www.livestrong.com/article/530542-numbness-in-feet-and-calves-while-running/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/530542-numbness-in-feet-and-calves-while-running/) . Important not to get alarmed as the last one could well be the cause...

Anyone running in belfast marathon yesterday could very easily get numbness in feet due to lack of feeling from the cold ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Had some good advice tonight so I've a few exercises to do plus I'm gonna do some small miles in my old neutral trainers. Hope to see an improvement in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
What are the exercises out of interest?

Fitz running puts a lot of weight through the ankles so best be careful on it. Plenty of time till Dublin yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
What are the exercises out of interest?

Fitz running puts a lot of weight through the ankles so best be careful on it. Plenty of time till Dublin yet.

Calf stretches, moving the metatarsals about etc starting to think a change in footwear is a must though.

Fitz try a bit of straight line running on grass for a while first.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Last Man on May 09, 2012, 08:17:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
Are they stability shoes lurganblue? I have felt this once or twice before on stability shoes when I should have been wearing neutrals so it was basically over cushioning.

If not how old are your trainers? 4-5 hundred miles would be recommended distance.

I know that you get GAIT analysis done in some shops with the trainers etc but not everyone doing this analysis knows what they're doing...
Podium4sport on Montgomery road do the video gait analysis for free, and the staff seem to know what they are talking about...You can try different shoes and watch the difference on the video playback.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2012, 11:13:38 AM
They do to be fair to them - one guy in particular there is very good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on May 09, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
Just a quick reminder about this weekends 10k for anyone interested.

(http://www.sys-sol.net/STUFF/NewPoster.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Last Man on May 09, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2012, 11:13:38 AM
They do to be fair to them - one guy in particular there is very good.
Ginger beard??.....Greg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527352_10150619981383344_327598773343_8902536_109579188_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 12:16:02 PM
45 yoyos a bit steep for a half marathon...

That's the very boy lastman.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 12:16:02 PM
45 yoyos a bit steep for a half marathon...

That's the very boy lastman.
Aye, steep enough but in fairness to them, the t-shirt and goody bag is about 30 euro in value.They have 1.30 and 1.40 and 2.00 pacemakers with balloons like the marathon too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 12:22:18 PM
I think I paid 20 for great ireland but that was a club place and it was 30 otherwise but they're funded to the hilt by sponsors.

Any races I have ever done down south give you nothing but sweets in the goodie bag which is strange.

1:40 a strange time to pick for a pacemaker?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:30:02 PM
The race has a health food shop as a sponsor so plenty of samples and supplements in the bag too this year hopefully.

Ya, I thought that too. The lad doing it is a 1.18 man so not complaining, one less lad to contend with. :P Be delighted to nip under previous PB of 1.23.40 all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
Starting to get a notion in my head of doing a marathon so must do a few halfs myself. Half marathon time(my one and only) not too hot so shouldn't be too hard to beat).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!

You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 10, 2012, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!

You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Missed it last year but by all accounst was a great event. I'll be there this year with all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 10, 2012, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!

You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Missed it last year but by all accounst was a great event. I'll be there this year with all going well.

Good man, I hope to do it myself but I won't be setting any records!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 13, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
http://www.runireland.com/events/john-davis-5km-run

This looks like it'll be a nice run in Malahide castle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 15, 2012, 11:01:41 AM
Did the 10km Blackwater run in Monaghan on Sunday. Tough wee track in and around Rossmore Park, lovely run in fairness but as you can imagine it was very up and down on forest paths.

Enjoyed it and happy with time of 43.30 considering the course.

Looks like the Newry half marathon is next at start of run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Fair play bingo, those trail runs can be tricky enough. Haven't made up my mind about the Newry half yet. There's an 8K down West in Cong I might tip down to that weekend.

Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 15, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Thats right going for the half, Ballinaman. You are fairly moving after the injury. No point having much left in the tank after a run like that.

It would be my first proper half, done one in a training run and it was tough. Few miles to get in the legs this week and next before i decide for sure but am 80% at this stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 12:30:51 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 15, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Thats right going for the half, Ballinaman. You are fairly moving after the injury. No point having much left in the tank after a run like that.

It would be my first proper half, done one in a training run and it was tough. Few miles to get in the legs this week and next before i decide for sure but am 80% at this stage.

To be honest, the break after the marathon probably did me good. Ran a even race, stopped looking at the splits after 7 miles. Good man, try and get a couple of 14 or 15 miles runs if you can in before the Newry race, will give you a bit of extra confidence and will help you big time from 10 miles onwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 15, 2012, 01:27:44 PM

A great run there in the half Ballinaman. I was in attendance but didn t run it this year. Lovely day for it and it s a great route but nothing easy about it. At my age I could only dream of times like that. If I could get a sub 1:40 at this stage i would be over the moon.

We got lucky with the weather Saturday. Sunday was so stormy I m not sure the race could have gone ahead if it was scheduled for that day. Running through Belleek woods in a gale is not a good idea with branches flying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: moysider on May 15, 2012, 01:27:44 PM

A great run there in the half Ballinaman. I was in attendance but didn t run it this year. Lovely day for it and it s a great route but nothing easy about it. At my age I could only dream of times like that. If I could get a sub 1:40 at this stage i would be over the moon.

We got lucky with the weather Saturday. Sunday was so stormy I m not sure the race could have gone ahead if it was scheduled for that day. Running through Belleek woods in a gale is not a good idea with branches flying.
Sound moysider, enjoyed it, was in bits in 2011 so was a welcome change. Nice pool of runners in Ballina now, we've taken over from Mayo AC as top adult club now in Mayo.1.40 is fair clipping but not impossible for anyone, the pacemakers were a great idea this year. Steeped with the weather as you said.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Ya seems they sold 100 of the 400 places over the weekend, up from 200 last yr


Quote from: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!

Typical Ballina, it was 1.22.08!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 16, 2012, 08:44:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Ya seems they sold 100 of the 400 places over the weekend, up from 200 last yr


Quote from: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!

Typical Ballina, it was 1.22.08!
1.22.06 on my watch...i'll take every second i can get!.... ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
Lovely weather at the minute but you certainly feel the difference on an evening run. Did 15km yesterday evening, starting just after 7 and it was tough going. Lovely been out in it mind.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 12:09:19 PM
It's not the heat that's the problem for me - struggling breathing as there's not much oxygen in it...

Still good being out in it but the speed work is pretty tough in it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 12:09:19 PM
It's not the heat that's the problem for me - struggling breathing as there's not much oxygen in it...

Still good being out in it but the speed work is pretty tough in it!

Yeah, much like that, sure if the breathing is suffering everything will suffer? Plus the mouthfulls of flies as well!

Was very little speed in my run anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: centre 3/4s on May 25, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Hey guys really would love to get the running bug, firstly to lose a bit of beef and secondly to give myself something to do in these long evenings. I have always been involved in various sports so would have a basic level of fitness but could you recommend ways of motivating to gert started... also a good running app for my android
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Pick a target would be my advice. Even a 5k would do. Forget about times but getting round first. Then build from it and look at knocking time of this.

Breathing suffers, heart rate suffers, speed suffers etc etc The whole chain so to get much done early mornings required!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Pick a target would be my advice. Even a 5k would do. Forget about times but getting round first. Then build from it and look at knocking time of this.

Breathing suffers, heart rate suffers, speed suffers etc etc The whole chain so to get much done early mornings required!

It will be early in the morning tomorrow but on the bike. Nice long spin in the sunshine.

Quote from: centre 3/4s on May 25, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Hey guys really would love to get the running bug, firstly to lose a bit of beef and secondly to give myself something to do in these long evenings. I have always been involved in various sports so would have a basic level of fitness but could you recommend ways of motivating to gert started... also a good running app for my android

Like Tommy said - target a 5k event in your area in 8-10wks - check out the calender on runireland. Then download one of the many couch to 5km apps for your phone. Or simply print one off on the internet. If you have a target and event to work to, it will serve as motivation. My missus done this last October for a 5km and just done her first 10km a few weeks back.

Just take it easy and follow the beginner plan and it will all come together. Plan to just get it done - the first time is a new PB regardless of taking 30mins or 1 hour or more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 28, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 28, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on June 01, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
Lads, sorry for interrupting your discussion.

I had managed of late to do a little running on the treadmill. The legs have strengthened up and i feel i want to start doing some outdoor running.

Now due to injury, the knee's are dodgy to say the least, however i have realised its still possible to run without causing too much pain!

I could probably run 4/5km at this stage, but would like to progress to being able to do 10km (if possible!).

I was wondering if any of you more experienced runners could offer me some sort of training plan for getting me there.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 28, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.

One of the lads organised him to come down to Blayney and done it in local Hotel gym, he's a young lad from Dublin - http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/ (http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/) - his name is Sean and thats his webiste.

Its the second time he's been down in a few weeks, near 20 done it over all from local area. Not sure if its the same guy who was in Irish Runner. He going to come back in 3/4 months and do a follow test for anyone interested, to see if the pointers he give has worked.

I got a good bit from him.

Doing Newry half on Sunday. First official race doing a half, few training runs over the distance, so should be fun!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Oak Leafer on June 01, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
Lads, sorry for interrupting your discussion.

I had managed of late to do a little running on the treadmill. The legs have strengthened up and i feel i want to start doing some outdoor running.

Now due to injury, the knee's are dodgy to say the least, however i have realised its still possible to run without causing too much pain!

I could probably run 4/5km at this stage, but would like to progress to being able to do 10km (if possible!).

I was wondering if any of you more experienced runners could offer me some sort of training plan for getting me there.

Any help would be appreciated.

http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/training/ (http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/training/)

Alot of people would use the plans above - plenty of variation in them in terms of levels of running.

Its all about little steps and building up to the distance. I'd not know anything about the knees and how they be affected by the running or how to factor them into a knee. You know more on that yourself from experience or physio.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on June 01, 2012, 02:56:47 PM
Cheers Bingo.

Ah yes i can manage the knee's, just need something in black and white to follow.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 02:57:25 PM
Just wondering if anyone here can help. Have a strained Achilles tendon at the minute and very tight calf's ( I'd assume both are linked) But I'd laid off it now a few weeks and got a bit of physio on it but it doesn't seem to be any better. I'm doing a few stretches but nothing seems to make a difference.

Just wondering if many of you runners have problems with it? And if so any tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 02:57:25 PM
Just wondering if anyone here can help. Have a strained Achilles tendon at the minute and very tight calf's ( I'd assume both are linked) But I'd laid off it now a few weeks and got a bit of physio on it but it doesn't seem to be any better. I'm doing a few stretches but nothing seems to make a difference.

Just wondering if many of you runners have problems with it? And if so any tips?

Can you go up on your toes without pain in the achilles? Did the physio look at your feet or how you actually run?

1.Get yourself a small heel raise, 6-8mm should do. Can find them in a decent chemist. Put them in shoes that you wear throughout the day. It's going to give your achilles some slack in order to reduce inflammation. Wear for about 7 days max.

2.Ice x 10 mins 2-3 times per day.

3.Foam roll the calf muscle as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trtOpsCEkMo&feature=related   , It'll probably be too sore to lift yourself up off the ground initially when rolling but it'll be possible after a few days of it. 5-10mins per day.

4. You need to put a bit of tensile force through the achilles to stimulate healing so, try this exercise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Newse_A9kI4

Off the step on the stairs is handy and can use the railing for support if needs be. Important to slowly lower yourself down to when you feel stretch. 2 sets of 10 reps twice daily should do it.

Try a jog in 5-6 days, if still sore, stop and repeat those exercises for another week. Foam roll your calf 3-4 times a week to stop it happening again once you are painfree.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 28, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.

One of the lads organised him to come down to Blayney and done it in local Hotel gym, he's a young lad from Dublin - http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/ (http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/) - his name is Sean and thats his webiste.

Its the second time he's been down in a few weeks, near 20 done it over all from local area. Not sure if its the same guy who was in Irish Runner. He going to come back in 3/4 months and do a follow test for anyone interested, to see if the pointers he give has worked.

I got a good bit from him.

Doing Newry half on Sunday. First official race doing a half, few training runs over the distance, so should be fun!
Thats the lad alright, heard good things about him from a good few people.

Best of luck. Real race doesn't start until 8 miles keep reminding yourself!! Heard it's a nice flat course once you get on the canal tow path....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
Thats the lad alright, heard good things about him from a good few people.

Best of luck. Real race doesn't start until 8 miles keep reminding yourself!! Heard it's a nice flat course once you get on the canal tow path....

Cheers, yeah very much found it better to pace myself unlike the rabbit outa the traps I was a few months back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Cheers Ballina. Can stand on my toes now without pain but was walking with a limp for the first couple of days after it happened.
Physio only gave me a short rub as it was down at training and there was about 3 guys waiting after me. So wouldn't say it was intensive physio or anything.

Must give the heel insert a go to see how it fairs up. And I've been hearing alot about these foam rollers lately so might have to pick one up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Cheers Ballina. Can stand on my toes now without pain but was walking with a limp for the first couple of days after it happened.
Physio only gave me a short rub as it was down at training and there was about 3 guys waiting after me. So wouldn't say it was intensive physio or anything.

Must give the heel insert a go to see how it fairs up. And I've been hearing alot about these foam rollers lately so might have to pick one up.
Grand, sounds like a grade 2 strain if it was sore when you were walking...few fibres torn in the tendon. Foam roller will be important to breakdown the scar tissue.

Foam rollers are the job. They are available on amazon, i've the green reebok one thats listed and its decent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
Have you ever heard of the rumble roller ballinaman?(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3)) I have one of them and they are some job. Basically a hard foam roller with "knubbles". Very very good for getting into places the average foam roller wouldn't get near. (hamstrings,calves, hip flexors).

Bingo for 5 and 10ks a good one to do would be to get your Lactate Threshold tested so you know where to train pace-wise on your tempo.

VO2 max also useful mind as if you're increasing that you are obviously doing something right...

I've been diagnosed with exertion induced asthma - I was getting bordering on an asthma attack every time I ran hard for more than 5 minutes. Got an inhaler and have been grand since. Did a 5k last weekend and didn't end well.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
Have you ever heard of the rumble roller ballinaman?(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3)) I have one of them and they are some job. Basically a hard foam roller with "knubbles". Very very good for getting into places the average foam roller wouldn't get near. (hamstrings,calves, hip flexors).

Bingo for 5 and 10ks a good one to do would be to get your Lactate Threshold tested so you know where to train pace-wise on your tempo.

VO2 max also useful mind as if you're increasing that you are obviously doing something right...

I've been diagnosed with exertion induced asthma - I was getting bordering on an asthma attack every time I ran hard for more than 5 minutes. Got an inhaler and have been grand since. Did a 5k last weekend and didn't end well.
Aye, they are very good alright, not for the faint hearted though! Finding rocking side to side on the foam roller for the calves the best though, absolute killer but works well.
Jeeze, its more common that you think though. Did you have the inhaler before the 5K and still didn't end well?? You won't have any problems once you get on the right inhaler.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
Only got the inhaler yesterday and did a tempo last night. Seemed to do the trick.

I was in the lead pack and could have won the 5k(just a parkrun) then it just looked like I blew up when I could have held the pace alright  ::)

Ai, rumble roller not for the faint hearted is right. I must try that with the calves.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 03, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 03, 2012, 03:56:44 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 03, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Fair play Bingo...great running. I died a death from 10 in the first half I did this time last year. Fair play to ya.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 05, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 03, 2012, 03:56:44 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 03, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Fair play Bingo...great running. I died a death from 10 in the first half I did this time last year. Fair play to ya.

Cheers.

It was a lovely course, one big hill in it but was ready for it and the run down it was great. Weather was great as well, bit of drizzle at start but was welcome and nice an cool on way round.

Debating weather to go for the Dublin marathon now. Few have said I should, as I've alot done but the step on from the halfs will be tough. Might keep building on the miles and see how I get on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 21, 2012, 09:54:50 AM
Just about to hit out for a 20 miler......times like this I wish I wasn't arsed and could sleep in...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 21, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!

You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Bump for this race lads, I know Bingo will give it a rattle, depending on how my head is I will do it too :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 21, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 21, 2012, 09:54:50 AM
Just about to hit out for a 20 miler......times like this I wish I wasn't arsed and could sleep in...

i'd call 10'0 clock a sleep in ballinaman  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 24, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
Good man BC1, you all set for Sunday then? I'd say you are peaking perfectly for it

Few from Blayney heading up from what I hear, i imagine that you's are hoping for a bigger crowd than last year.
Be chipping away at a few 10kms and Duathlons recently, great weather for the bike with the warm air.

You going for the Marathon Ballinaman then? Undecided myself, have been building up my miles with a view to it but need to commit one way or another fairly soon I suppose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 24, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 24, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
You going for the Marathon Ballinaman then? Undecided myself, have been building up my miles with a view to it but need to commit one way or another fairly soon I suppose.
Thats the plan. Have to enter before July 31st before it goes up by another ten euro. You can get 10miles, half marathon and marathon for 100 euro if you enter all three. Going to do the 3/4 marathon in Athlone on October 7th as well, heard good things about it last year and sets you up perfectly for the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 25, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?

Best of look with it. Heading that direction myself, swimming nearly non-existant but have lessons arranged for over winter with local Tri club.

A lad I know done his first recently and said the start in the swim is the most chaotic thing. He was advised to stay well back or to side, and to then slot in as the field stretched out. It worked out well for him.

Bike is key. In a few where I have done the bike and run on relay teams, the Triathletes are really strong on the bike. It can be fustrating doing what you think is decent and them flying past. Get the use of a good road bike and get used to it - gear settings, get sized for seat and bar setting, if cleats they need practice for stopping and starting.

The biggest factor is the transition from one leg to the other. I know from coming off bike and into running, the legs feel like jelly and it takes a while for that feeling to leave them. A couple of brick sessions are advisable - swim and cycle, cycle and run to get used to the changes.

That be a very basic look at it and I'm sure some of the more experienced folks would have alot more to say on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 25, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?

Best of look with it. Heading that direction myself, swimming nearly non-existant but have lessons arranged for over winter with local Tri club.

A lad I know done his first recently and said the start in the swim is the most chaotic thing. He was advised to stay well back or to side, and to then slot in as the field stretched out. It worked out well for him.

Bike is key. In a few where I have done the bike and run on relay teams, the Triathletes are really strong on the bike. It can be fustrating doing what you think is decent and them flying past. Get the use of a good road bike and get used to it - gear settings, get sized for seat and bar setting, if cleats they need practice for stopping and starting.

The biggest factor is the transition from one leg to the other. I know from coming off bike and into running, the legs feel like jelly and it takes a while for that feeling to leave them. A couple of brick sessions are advisable - swim and cycle, cycle and run to get used to the changes.

That be a very basic look at it and I'm sure some of the more experienced folks would have alot more to say on it.

Cheers Bingo, Its the bike that I'm more worried about, plan to do practice one at the gym on Friday, DW gym has a 20 meter pool so will do 40 lengths, get of and do 12 miles on the bike (though the indoor bike would be impossible to gauge) and finish with the run. This should give me a roundabout time, but in fairness I just want to see how I cope with the different disciplines.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 25, 2012, 10:21:31 PM
Went running monday night and tonight after not doing it for a few weeks.
I'm fecking broke up, every bone and joint in my body is killing me and I'm as stiff as a poker.
I didn't feel this bad when I first started so why now?
Is there anything I can do or is it just a matter of keeping at it and working through the pain?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

How does it work Milltown? Is there a limit on the number that can do it, or staggered starts? Wouldnt imagine a pool could hold too many unless they have no lanes and let everyone work away, in which case it would be a lot worse than open water!!

I'm looking to get into triathlons myself, and it sounds like a perfect event to do so, but is probably too close for, and will be at football right up until then too which isnt ideal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 25, 2012, 10:21:31 PM
Went running monday night and tonight after not doing it for a few weeks.
I'm fecking broke up, every bone and joint in my body is killing me and I'm as stiff as a poker.
I didn't feel this bad when I first started so why now?
Is there anything I can do or is it just a matter of keeping at it and working through the pain?

Just work through it, was away for a few weeks on hols, came back and went to the gym and did thursday, Friday and Sat morning!! was aching and sore, struggled through and went again Monday and Wed morning. Feeling grand now, and looking forward to getting back into the routine again.

Good stretching and hit the pool if you can afterwards. But stretching is important
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

How does it work Milltown? Is there a limit on the number that can do it, or staggered starts? Wouldnt imagine a pool could hold too many unless they have no lanes and let everyone work away, in which case it would be a lot worse than open water!!

I'm looking to get into triathlons myself, and it sounds like a perfect event to do so, but is probably too close for, and will be at football right up until then too which isnt ideal

Its a staggered race I believe, they have asked what times you can do in the swim beforehand and how many minutes you can do the run in when I registered. I think the sprint triathlons are the perfect start for beginners but the thing is that there will be strong competitors there who'll be looking to do 13 minute swims, 18 minute runs and 16/20 minute cycles!!

I'm looking to do 28 minute swim, 30/35 bike and 25 minute run. Will see if that happens though. Still hurling away myself, albeit in the z squad but still feel the need for competition.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Just had a look at last years results, winner 10 min swim, which is 20 second lengths (!), then 32 min cycle, and 14 min run!! Under 3 min km!!

Like you, would have little to no experience of bike, but would have decent swimming. Its def too early for me though. Will do it next year!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Just had a look at last years results, winner 10 min swim, which is 20 second lengths (!), then 32 min cycle, and 14 min run!! Under 3 min km!!

Like you, would have little to no experience of bike, but would have decent swimming. Its def too early for me though. Will do it next year!!

Well I thought I'd leave it for a year also but fcuk it will give it a bash to get her done. Friends have done the Nice IronMan during June, they said it was unreal. Watched it the following Sunday and it looked brilliant. The start looked like a massive wave of arms. They said the DJ had them worked up to a frenzy before the race and they managed (debutants) to finish it in 14 hours. The winner finished in 8h34minutes. 3.8 km swim, 180.2 km bike ride and a Marathon to finish!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
Them finishers times for the Ironman are incredible. Any reports on an Ironman really push towards trying one, a serious event. You also read some on some forums of people dismissing them as they say their is no real race as such or competitiveness to them, as 99% of people in them want to just finish. Find that very hard to understand myself!

Hopefully in 4/5 years we will be on here discussing our Ironman adventures  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
I watched one in Groomsport last year Bingo. Wouldn't be my bag but a serious event. Most of the half ironman people were struggling.  There were 3 in the full ironman.

The triathlons, unless you're at the top end, seem to be a lot about completing rather than competing anyway. To be doing those distances in three disciplines like that you're doing well to complete never mind compete.

The 5k time for newtonabbey was 16 odd for the winner - most runners up here can barely run 14 minutes for a 5k...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
Them finishers times for the Ironman are incredible. Any reports on an Ironman really push towards trying one, a serious event. You also read some on some forums of people dismissing them as they say their is no real race as such or competitiveness to them, as 99% of people in them want to just finish. Find that very hard to understand myself!

Hopefully in 4/5 years we will be on here discussing our Ironman adventures  ;)

Anyone who says those things obviously haven't done them before, Lance Armstrong competes in them and other serious athletes. The time they finished the marathon in was around 3 hours for FFS, that's after the 3.8 k swin and 180.2 km bike run in the mountains!!

I'd be way off the mark for anything close to that but would like by the end of next season to have competed in a proper triathlon and maybe look at the following year to doing an Ironman. The couple I know that competed in the Iron man really only started swimming this year, within 8 months they have become very competent swimmers and completed the swim in Nice in 1.10h.

Yes completing the thing would be a big thing imtommygunn, but I'd say like most sports you will always want to improve and after completing then it will be about competing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 12:47:54 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 12:47:54 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.

Out of the thousands that competed in Nice, half were first timers, regular competitors of triathlons but first time Ironmen/women. Hawaii have one every year also and other far off places, Sydney and USA. You'd build a holiday around an event like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 12:47:54 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.

Out of the thousands that competed in Nice, half were first timers, regular competitors of triathlons but first time Ironmen/women. Hawaii have one every year also and other far off places, Sydney and USA. You'd build a holiday around an event like that.

One of the local lads has qualified for the World Ironman in Las Vegas this Septemper. He is practically fulltime training this year.

I was reading on one forum where someone said to compete in one can cost a couple of grand in terms of the actual event itself - travel, bike travel, entry fee, accomodation etc Thats before any expense in terms of training and gear etc. Not cheap.

Hawaii is the original Ironman i believe. Not sure after competing one, you'd be in much form for a holiday as such  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
I'd say you're right bingo. The ironman is a particularly savage event though and would take some training to finish never mind compete in.  A marathon after all that cycling and swimming is rough going.

I don't know, endurance wise, what would compare to an ironman. You'd need to be talking marathon de sables or some of those mad ultra marathons.

There's a boy I think from Bellaghy in Derry who's world class at the triathlons - I think the ironman.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 02:32:21 PM
You'd be looking at the very top end of the ultra-marathons I'd imagine or the adventure racing that is often spread out over big distances and lasts 24/36 hours. It normally on unmarked routes with numerous checkpoints, requires nagivation skills and has tasks along the way.

http://www.beastofballyhoura.com/ (http://www.beastofballyhoura.com/) This one seems to the most popular in Ireland.

I been reading on the Ironman recently and training plans have from 10 hrs per week (14-15 hr finish) to 20 hrs per week (8-10hrs finish).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on July 26, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Indeed there is . . .

http://martin-muldoon.blogspot.ie/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
Didn't mind the name but that's him alright.

Adventure racing is a big thing these days. Some money in it and mad stuff some of it. Seems a slightly lesser extreme of the triathlons.

Triathlons seem very addictive but never had the inclination myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 26, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Competing in the triathlons is all relative, very few people are going to win one. There's a lad Eric Wolfe in cork and he finishes 2nd every tri to another lad, ur man is just faster, so he's probably always competing to stay ahead of 3rd.
Me, I'd be hoping for top 20%, that's always the goal, as I get better that'll increase but I'll always be competing rather than completing. Complete the first one then you've a target.

That run must be short at 14mins, you'd expect triathletes to be doing 16/17. The pool swim is meant to be a curse, lads not giving way to faster swimmers.

I've Kilkenny this weekend, 1200 people, off in 11 waves though I'd prefer 2 or 3. Masterchef are providing grub after though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 06:15:03 PM
Just nipped to gym and tried that distance in the pool, 21 minutes flat. Punctured but will try to break the twenty mark before the race. Nearly fainted in shower FFS. Nah food in me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 26, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 02:15:36 PM

There's a boy I think from Bellaghy in Derry who's world class at the triathlons - I think the ironman.

Theres a lad from Fermanagh who actually is world class at the triathlons; he'll be on the start line at Hyde park in a week or sos time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on July 26, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2012, 09:33:10 AM
A girl I train with actually started talked about this to me the other week TM. Apparently it's very common and yes immodium or an equivalent seems to be the answer...

I wondered where that guy was from haranguerer - sounds like he's world class but maybe just a bit short of medal standard. Probably similar to Morrison although if she has one of her better days she will maybe have an outside chance of a medal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 27, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Bit heavy on the fibre and greens maybe? Had to ease off on the spinach myself..... ;)eye of the needle job...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 27, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on July 26, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Bit heavy on the fibre and greens maybe? Had to ease off on the spinach myself..... ;)eye of the needle job...

The beetroot juice would help clear out all the pipes  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P

You had it right! Running up those hills towards the square, I was thinking if Gerry O'donnells is open, I'll dive in there for one to get me home!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P

You had it right! Running up those hills towards the square, I was thinking if Gerry O'donnells is open, I'll dive in there for one to get me home!

I went for a walk with the dogs at lunchtime and got home at 7 o'clock!!  Wife and kids were with me though so wasn't too raucous!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Puckoon on August 01, 2012, 09:48:35 PM
Anyone tried the Nike Free shoe for any kind of regular running?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 01, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 01, 2012, 09:48:35 PM
Anyone tried the Nike Free shoe for any kind of regular running?
Wouldn't touch them myself. Don't fix what ain't broken attitude, been using regular running shoes for 10 years now without a problem.
Reliable research is still sketchy.

Good article on pro's and con's here though.

http://www.runninginjuryfree.org/2008/09/should-you-run-in-minimalist-shoes.html

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on August 07, 2012, 11:28:55 PM
Interesting documentry about Brother Colm in Kenya, Man on a Mission on RTE 1. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 10:09:30 AM
Committed to Dublin marathon and have stepped up the miles in last few weeks. Had a 15 miler yesterday and got through it rightly, was a warm heavy morning but bit of cloud cover helped keep the sun off.

Anyone done the athlone half marathon in September? Seems a popular one and a fairly flat one as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks as there is a 10k coming up on 8th September. I've worked my way up to 5k and did that in about 25 mins on Friday.

Is it a huge step up for the 10 and is it doable in 3 weeks?? What way should I be approaching it?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 20, 2012, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks

Who was she?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks as there is a 10k coming up on 8th September. I've worked my way up to 5k and did that in about 25 mins on Friday.

Is it a huge step up for the 10 and is it doable in 3 weeks?? What way should I be approaching it?

Just got to go further. Your 5k times is grand for a few weeks. I'd slow down and go further over the next two weeks. Add a few km on this week, no reason you couldn't be up to 8km at weekend. Get the pace right at the start, don't blow yourself out in first km trying to force a pace.

A good guide is that you should be able to hold a conversation as you run, should help keep you at a pace that you can extend the run.

On the day, you'll squeeze out an extra effort as well for fear of failure  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 20, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I mentioned this a while ago on the thread, but for the first time on Saturday took part in the Park Run in North Belfast Waterworks Park - a timed 5k run every Saturday.  My time was rubbish but something to build on - came around the middle of the field and def should have done better.

There were 150 people taking part (running and walking) and it was a great wee event.  I'll def be back on Saturday coming.

Screenexile - good luck.  I'm at about 7k (after not running for a few months I had to start again) and think I'll be ready for 10k soon if I can remember not to run too fast at the start (always my problem).




Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
I did it on Saturday as well Rois. Great wee event no matter what level of fitness etc and good training for races.

Screenexile approach it by doing the distance slow in training. On the day you'll be grand as people will carry you round (to a point) but try doing 10k a couple of times with the pace manageable enough that you can do it.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Did my first ever track race last week BM. Crept under 10 minutes for a 3,000. It was a whole new world of pain.

Not doing dublin. 65 is good mileage. Hitting about 45 at present with a few 10ks coming up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 11:01:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Did my first ever track race last week BM. Crept under 10 minutes for a 3,000. It was a whole new world of pain.

Not doing dublin. 65 is good mileage. Hitting about 45 at present with a few 10ks coming up.
Sub 10 is nice clipping, plenty of interval and tempo work to get down around there.Hopefully get back in the speed game next year once I get this marathon done. The training for marathon is a pain in the arse, really time consuming. Up at 8 this morn to get a 10 in before work now.
Don't know how those Ironman lads do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)

I passed it yesterday at alright but it was 8.30 yesterday morning. And about a hour later. I try and get it done before people rise, they don't need to see me bounding round the place in tight shorts  ;)

I had hoped to get down to that date but had a kids birthday party. Impressive result, your magic must be beginning to work!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)

I passed it yesterday at alright but it was 8.30 yesterday morning. And about a hour later. I try and get it done before people rise, they don't need to see me bounding round the place in tight shorts  ;)I had hoped to get down to that date but had a kids birthday party. Impressive result, your magic must be beginning to work!

I'd say that's a sight to behold alright, that is the same reason why I run under the cover of darkness, no fair on the childers!!  Starting a real push now at the end of the holidays, kids back to school and no excuses!

Result was good alright, don't know if its me or not but something's working at the minute!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.
Good man. Its tough going but worth it in the end. I was buzzing after the first one last year, may I stress "after" it there, torture from 17 miles onwards for myself so it was..haha. I'm on a sub 3 program at the minute, will give it a shot but won't be devastated if i don't do it, auld lads Pb of 3.11 hopefully will be taken. Did 3.23 last year and went to pieces for last 8 miles so not going to make that same mistake again anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
I'd say that's a sight to behold alright, that is the same reason why I run under the cover of darkness, no fair on the childers!!  Starting a real push now at the end of the holidays, kids back to school and no excuses!

Result was good alright, don't know if its me or not but something's working at the minute!

Never mind the childers, you'll have the women road walkers after you in no time. If you start now, you'll be ready for Croke Park on St Patricks day, spring from the bench for last 10 mins to seal the deal. Or be back on it for last 9 mins with a red card to the name  ;)

Take the credit when it going  :) They should never have been where they were, plenty of talent there and with the momentum now, they'll take stopping.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Good man. Its tough going but worth it in the end. I was buzzing after the first one last year, may I stress "after" it there, torture from 17 miles onwards for myself so it was..haha. I'm on a sub 3 program at the minute, will give it a shot but won't be devastated if i don't do it, auld lads Pb of 3.11 hopefully will be taken. Did 3.23 last year and went to pieces for last 8 miles so not going to make that same mistake again anyways!

It tough alright. Actually found the first half harder yesterday than final 7 miles, maybe it was early morning start but was happy at the end to do it. There is a sunday morning running group but there was a local 10 mile race on yesterday, so they all headed for it. I wanted to stick to the longer, slower run.

Thats a hell of target for yourself but by looking at your time on here, you could well hit. One of the local runners targetted sub 3 for the london marathon and really pushed his training for it, 6 months he put in for it. He blew up with 3/4 miles to go and missed it by 8 mins. He was devastated but had invested so much in it. He going again for it in Dublin.

The fmaily bragging rights be very important!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 05, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
Some advice needed,

After ten years of no exercise, i am back 2 months now. the standard week is bootcamp twice a week and a flat 7k and uphill 8k twice a week, getting faster all the time, the 7k is around 35 mins.

A couple of things, my calves always seem tight for the first 2 k but then loosen out, is this normal enought, also is there a decent watch out there that i could use to mark my distance versus time running, i have seen the GPS watches, but they are mad money.

Love the running now i have to say, a stone off in the last month as well, just keeping it casual, no marathons for me, just the odd 10k now and again,

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2012, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on September 05, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
Some advice needed,

After ten years of no exercise, i am back 2 months now. the standard week is bootcamp twice a week and a flat 7k and uphill 8k twice a week, getting faster all the time, the 7k is around 35 mins.

A couple of things, my calves always seem tight for the first 2 k but then loosen out, is this normal enought, also is there a decent watch out there that i could use to mark my distance versus time running, i have seen the GPS watches, but they are mad money.

Love the running now i have to say, a stone off in the last month as well, just keeping it casual, no marathons for me, just the odd 10k now and again,
Good stuff, welcome to the endorphin addiction club.

I'd look after the calves, can develop Achilles and plantar fasciitis problems if you don't keep them loose. A foam roller is your best bet, I order from physiosupplies.com...they have a depot in Dublin and will get them out to you quickly. I'd start off the the short white one for yourself and then move onto black after a couple of months. The rumble roller will probably give you a heart attack if you start with it. Plenty of videos on youtube as to how to use them.

The GPS watches are the only way to get distance accurately unfortunately but you can get a rough guide if you set the clock on the car or else do a small measured loop course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 06, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
Any of you guys use phone apps to measure the distance / speed etc?

Have downloaded one called Map My Run but havent had a chance to use it yet
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
An Gaeilgoir most smartphones have free gps apps that will give you distance,pace,time and even a map of where you ran.
Runkeeper is a very good one. I just bought a arm strap for the iPhone off eBay for a couple of euros.
Surely a man in a high powered job like yourself has a smartphone!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 06, 2012, 10:23:54 AM
I much prefer the GPS watches, far easier to manage and use when on the run, one quick look at the watch and you have your distance, pace, time, speed, lap time etc etc.

I'm sure the smartphone does all this but with the size of them, they either in the pocket or strapped to the arm and takes a bit of effort to get into eyeshot when running.

The smartphones apps though are very good mind and will talk to you when used to full affect but alot of the time I'd not be listening with the earplugs in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

Just go at it, decent time if there are a few hills, the people running and watching will usually spur you on. You never want to look as if your jogging round for the craic and that competitive edge will make you want to go faster. Pick a runner in front and try and pass him or at least (if he's quick) stay close to him.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 06, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

I'd not so too hard at the start, thats for sure. You can very easily blow out in the early stages if you set off too quick and will be nothing in the legs for the finish.

Best 10k I did was with a very steady start and maintaining a good pace round, for last 2/3km I had enough left in the tank to step it up a touch and then when you know the end is in sight, as Milltown says, you'll always find a push to finish strong.

You boke the 60mark, to break the 50min mark, you have to cut a minute off each km you are running. Its a big ask. I'd set out to enjoy and in a race with lots of other people you'll surprise yourself and do a better time than you expect. But just be careful not too sprint off early, you;ll get a great adreniline rush in last 3 km if you are passing people rather than been passed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
As bingo says don't go off too hard. It's ok doing that in a 5k but in a 10k you will die a death. Try and keep pacing as even as you can. Not sure if fast slow would work- your breathing may be busted...

The more even you pave the better you'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 06, 2012, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

The best method, in my experience, is to keep in touch with your pace throughout i.e. make sure you don't leave yourself too much to do at the end.

You're basically looking at 8 minute miles all the way.

Compare that to what realistically is the best pace you can run a mile at. If say that's a 7 minute mile, then you can't really afford more than a couple of 8.30+ miles. Uphill, upwind miles will take longer, bear that in mind.

But to be honest, I think the only way you're going to get under 50 is sustained practice.

I started back running 8 weeks ago (treadmill only) after many moons away. Initially I was doing 26 mins for 5k and that hurt like hell. I took it up to 8k at a slower pace again, and then every session I took a few more seconds off my time. First 10k, about 3-4 weeks ago, was 48 and a bit; I was delighted as my target was 50. I've kept at 10k since and broke 44 today. I'll get to 43 soon. It's just practice and a fair dash of stubbornness really - though I know from my playing days I'm about to enter the timings that are about my natural limit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on September 07, 2012, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

wanted to get to this run but cant, good luck with it, i hope you get a good crowd out for the cause
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 07, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!

I'm not sure Tommy. Even when I was flying fit, I was the slowest player on just about any team I played for.

I was in the States when I was 21 and played soccer for my college. Part of the coach's training regime was you had to pass a basic fitness test of 1.5m in 10 mins, a 10 min break, then 1.5 miles in 9 mins. You did it every day until you passed.

Most of the team passed on day one, and the rest got there after a couple of weeks. At week 5 he gave me an exemption! I got the 10 okay, but couldn't get 9.

A few years later I did 9 on a running machine, after serious months of building up... and it took me about an hour to recover.

So I'd think that I'm distance running my absolute peak is about 6.15 a mile. I just don't got the basics to go any quicker!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 07, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
Missing the parkrun for the next few weeks as I'm away but really liking it. Started at 28 mins but got down to 26.15 by week 3.

I use Nike GPS app (not the one linked to your shoe) on iPhone as I listen to music while I run. Do my best times to Meatloaf - Dead Ringer For Love - who knew??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on September 08, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
I've been running the same route on and off for just over three years, its just short of eight miles (7.98), seven of those being cross country. I'm not what you would call a natural runner, but have stuck at it. My initial aim was to get my time down to under an hour, which I did last year, but today I smashed my PB and did it in 56 mins dead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on September 08, 2012, 12:47:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.

He is on TV atm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:48:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.
Just seen the hoor on BBC 4.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.

Interval training is (for me anyways) far better than the normal running, I run on the treadmill for 21 minutes, 6mph for a minute then up it to 10 for a minute, carry that through for the 21 minutes. It's a fair old slog but I've noticed the benefits when running.

Played a few games at the club and the difference I've notice has been great, quicker to the ball, breathing better, concentration better.

Get out and try the 5k Park Run at the the Waterworks, great for that initial 'competitive' run, you'll find that you'll run a lot quicker
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on September 08, 2012, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.

u must have Q106, dats all they play
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 07, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!

I'm not sure Tommy. Even when I was flying fit, I was the slowest player on just about any team I played for.

I was in the States when I was 21 and played soccer for my college. Part of the coach's training regime was you had to pass a basic fitness test of 1.5m in 10 mins, a 10 min break, then 1.5 miles in 9 mins. You did it every day until you passed.

Most of the team passed on day one, and the rest got there after a couple of weeks. At week 5 he gave me an exemption! I got the 10 okay, but couldn't get 9.

A few years later I did 9 on a running machine, after serious months of building up... and it took me about an hour to recover.

So I'd think that I'm distance running my absolute peak is about 6.15 a mile. I just don't got the basics to go any quicker!

That's nearly a 38 10k though...

I help out a good bit with training new runners and the improvements are remarkable in some of them. Everyone has their limits but I'd say you've a bit to go. I'm about 6 minutes quicker than first 10k and hopefully have a few in me yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on September 09, 2012, 10:56:13 AM
Did the 10k yesterday and managed to get in under the 50 minute mark. 49.03 to be exact. Jesus it was brutal stuff at times there was a lot of heart and a headwind on the 2 big climbs. I had to stop 4 times but kept walking and only did it for 5 seconds then straight back at it.

Really happy to have done it but serious pain all day yesterday and today. One thing I liked was the sense of community around the whole thing although it was organized by a mental health group from our area so that maybe doesn't happen a lot. Can't see me doing one again any time soon but if these knees ever settle down I'd love to get into it a bit more seriously.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 01:51:42 PM
Took part in the same 10k Screenexile done at the weekend.....54min 1 sec.....delighted....3 months ago i couldn't run 5km!

Now...having got the taste...i want to improve.

I had been running every other day, doing 4/5miles.

Any advice on how i should approach things now?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 11, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 01:51:42 PM
Took part in the same 10k Screenexile done at the weekend.....54min 1 sec.....delighted....3 months ago i couldn't run 5km!

Now...having got the taste...i want to improve.

I had been running every other day, doing 4/5miles.

Any advice on how i should approach things now?

You probably need to decide what your target is:

Marathon/Half Marathon
or stay at 10k and do faster times at that distance and/or shorter distances.

For either of these there is a whole range of options. If looking to go faster its a case of continuing to cover the distances but to add in some form of structure ie Interval running, Tempo running, hill running etc in which to build up speed, stamina.

Interval running is setting a distance say 400m and going hard for that distance, slowing right down again for same distance ot set time for recovery and then going hard again for the 400m. Repeat this as possible, abviously it has a warm up run and cool down run.

Tempo running would be doing a 10km run and building up speed to run at a required race pace eg 2km slow run to warm up, next km at 5min per km pace, next km at 4.30min per km, next km at 4min per km pace and then back up. Lots of variation on it.

Huge scope for training out there but setting a target is the first step.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 02:51:21 PM
Well with my knee's i think 10k is sufficient!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Step 1 would be increasing your distances. A long run a week is basically a must if you want to improve. If you're at 4 or 5 miles build it up say a mile a week (on your weekend run) until you get to 8 or 9 miles I would say for 10ks or further for longer.

After you get the long runs up a bit you want to look at tempo work. Tempo = for 10ks say 4 miles at a "comfortably hard" pace.

Other running should be easy then plug in hill reps after a month or two.

First of all you want to build fitness and next would be strength. Longer runs will do both of these. Try upping your distances keeping the pace at a level where you can do it without too much hassle for your fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 05:00:02 PM
Many thanks for advice fella's!

Should I continue the 3/4 days a week, with a days recovery in between?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 13, 2012, 10:14:28 AM
If anyone gets the Indo on thursday for the Fit magazine, check out pages 14/15, they have included an article on the fitness and well being programme that we started in the club last year and has grown massively this year.

Great fundraiser for the club plus the benefits for the participants who are getting great value has been huge. Serious interest and buzz about it this year, kicked off on Tuesday night of this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on September 19, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
What's the normal healing time for a calf strain? Did a half mara on sat and it wassore , I had discomfort after a few miles running last night and stopped but it's not really that bad walking today

  I was due to do along run this weekend as part of marathon training but should I give it a miss?

Def not torn (been there before)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 20, 2012, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 19, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
What's the normal healing time for a calf strain? Did a half mara on sat and it wassore , I had discomfort after a few miles running last night and stopped but it's not really that bad walking today

  I was due to do along run this weekend as part of marathon training but should I give it a miss?

Def not torn (been there before)
If its sore when you hop on the affected side i'd give it a miss. If not, you should be ok with long sustained stretching (painfree) >30 seconds as much as you can throughout the course of the day, ice x 10 mins x 3.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Lads I have been banging out a few miles on the treadmills recently and everytime I get to the 10 minute mark (first 5 minutes usually a light jog to warm up) my shins tighten up and give me hell.  Nearly impossible to get them loosened up and limits the time/distance I can do. 

Never really have this problem when road running.  Any tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 20, 2012, 10:40:48 AM
That sounds bizarre North Antrim. Usually shin splints would be the other way around. If you're running on a very small incline on the treadmill, it might be that your natural gait causes the problem on flat surfaces *; you don't notice it so much on the road because of incline changes. Have you tried a steeper incline on the treadmill?

* disclaimer, I don't understand matters of science or biology
Title: Re: Running
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 10:50:39 AM
I thought that the slight incline may have been the reason for it so was wary of increasing it.  Will maybe ramp it up a bit the next time I go to the gym to see if it makes any difference. Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cadence on September 20, 2012, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 10:50:39 AM
I thought that the slight incline may have been the reason for it so was wary of increasing it.  Will maybe ramp it up a bit the next time I go to the gym to see if it makes any difference. Cheers

the incline will be a problem as it will tighten the distance between your toes and your shins when you run. it doesn't seem like much, but running up and down hills takes time to get right. you should look at your biomechanics. try having a slight lean forward when you run, use your core muscles to balance you, keep your stride shorter and quicker going uphill, lenghten it going down, use minimal knee lift, and make sure your foot strike is bang on the middle of your foot... that should sort it. but i wouldn't do all my running uphill/at an incline if i were you... you're going to end up putting too much strain on your shin muscles i'd have thought? a more varied terrain is better as it gives the legs a better work out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:03:17 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:03:17 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.

Do you think come race day you'll manage to complete it under 3hrs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:03:17 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.

Do you think come race day you'll manage to complete it under 3hrs?

No, not a chance. Its my first marathon and that distance was new terrority for me.

When I set out, i had no time, then I said I'd look to break 4hrs as an achieveable target. Now the lad who has been giving me pointers and has run them, says that I could target 3.30 but 3.45 is a relaistic target.

Who knows, another 5 miles seemed a long way to go when I finished saturday. Just planning to keep to my plan/pace and see what i have to finish with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.

Yeah, thats definately a consideration. Is it best to go with faster ones and hope to stay with them or slower pacers and try and have something to finish with, I'd be of cautious thinking and would think 3.45 and finish stronger would work for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 24, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.

Yeah, thats definately a consideration. Is it best to go with faster ones and hope to stay with them or slower pacers and try and have something to finish with, I'd be of cautious thinking and would think 3.45 and finish stronger would work for me.

Ya, I'd go with that plan Bingo, race starts at 22 miles and its psychologically tough if you were to get dropped by 3.30 group then. I got dropped by the 3 group at 15 miles and then the 3.15 group at 22 miles last year...ouch, finished in 3.22 then.

Hope to give 3 a right shot this year to be honest, feel I'm much better prepared than last year. I've done  four 21 milers and five 18's already, did a 10km race last sunday and finished up in 35.40 .

Going to go out now to flush the drink and clear the head after yesterday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
I would say that's a plan Bingo. Haven't done a marathon but it's what I would do myself if or when I did one.

BM that's a good time for a 10k. I ran about that 2 weeks ago then picked up a hamstring niggle :-\ Back at it now though. The leg speed shouldn't be a limiting factor and you should be set-up alright assuming you're tempoing and long running alright. Do you do marathon pace sessions much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 02:02:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 24, 2012, 01:32:36 PM

Ya, I'd go with that plan Bingo, race starts at 22 miles and its psychologically tough if you were to get dropped by 3.30 group then. I got dropped by the 3 group at 15 miles and then the 3.15 group at 22 miles last year...ouch, finished in 3.22 then.

Hope to give 3 a right shot this year to be honest, feel I'm much better prepared than last year. I've done  four 21 milers and five 18's already, did a 10km race last sunday and finished up in 35.40 .

Going to go out now to flush the drink and clear the head after yesterday.

Thats my way of thinking on it at this stage and in the Newry half I kept a steady pace with a view to finishing stronger and it worked well. Was following your advice on that day on same basis that the race only starts at 9 miles or something along those lines.

You've alot of miles on the clock, so hopefully you hit the mark, savage running in fairness.

Hard luck yesterday but I'm sure you fed up hearing that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 24, 2012, 03:00:23 PM
imt...Yep, have been doing the end of the long runs at marathon pace. Did the last 4 on Saturday morning at 6.45 pace and the 17 miles before it at 7.20 pace.
The 10km race was a strange one, been a good few months since I did a race and didn't know how i was going to go, felt grand at the end and put the shoe down for the last 1km in 3.07. Ran out to bull island there along by Clontarf, good to clear the head, absolutely devastated about yesterday, think I'll be doing some amount of running this week :-\

Good stuff bingo, you've made serious improvements in the last year, times are flying down for ya.
Hope to stay with the 3hr group until 21 miles and i'll see how i feel, will either push on for 2.57/58, if not going great, just hang on to them for 3hrs! Definitely done with the marathon if I get under the 3, 10km training much more enjoyable and less time consuming!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 04:16:47 PM
If you'd a 3:07 left in you in the last k BM then you mustn't have been pushing yourself hard enough the rest of it!!

Sounds like both you boys have most of the work done anyway. If you've the work done you'll do alright.

Running can be pretty therapeutic BM so should help rightly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 25, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Aye, felt grand all the way through, probably should have taken a few more seconds off the time but it was a fairly tactical race, managed to get 3rd with the final push. Ya, need all the relaxing I can get. Still mad as hell to be honest!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.

I trying to think of somewhere to train and the only place I can think of is trying to run up the side of the house!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.

I trying to think of somewhere to train and the only place I can think of is trying to run up the side of the house!
;D
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
John Anderson would start the marathon if i had my way......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
John Anderson would start the marathon if i had my way......

If i had my way, he'd finish it as well....for me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 04:10:07 PM
Lads any decent 10k races coming up?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on October 02, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
On the issue of Ryan Bradley, the Sunday Indo said that Jim Mc Guinness expects all his players to be able to run 12km in a certain time.  Any ideas on what that would be for an inter county player?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
sub 48mins I'd guess....

Runireland has a good calender of races. One in clondalkin in a couple of weeks time i may do. Hollymount in south Mayo in mid November is a class 10km race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
Hell and Back this Sunday in Bray, its a 10km. Great event and more than just a run or race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 02, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 02, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2012, 11:16:23 PM
Mr you're a week late as one of the biggest over in Bangor last weekend.

Check Http://www.niathletics.org (Http://www.niathletics.org)

Next big one November but a few smaller ones in there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 03, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
Anyone have any tips on motivating yourself to do more? I run a bit and do a fair bit of sports training but I'd love to do more. I go into couch potato mode sometimes and can't be bothered. So I'm looking for some ideas on how to motivate myself when I'm not in the mood.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 03, 2012, 04:27:49 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 03, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
Anyone have any tips on motivating yourself to do more? I run a bit and do a fair bit of sports training but I'd love to do more. I go into couch potato mode sometimes and can't be bothered. So I'm looking for some ideas on how to motivate myself when I'm not in the mood.
Start entering races, local fun runs. Runireland.com has a good calender of events coming up. Pick a race and do your best, next time you'll want to beat the previous time and it'll get out on the training run's when otherwise you wouldn't be that bothered. Always good to set yourself goals and targets, no matter what you do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 04, 2012, 08:39:39 AM
Cheers ballinaman. I'll give it a try. I should be motivated by the thought of making a show of myself to get out and do a bit of training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 04, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
Any one in the dublin or surrounding area interested in doing Hell N Bank 10km in bray this sunday?

http://www.hellandback.ie/ (http://www.hellandback.ie/)

I have a slot available, entered a team way back and one of the lads has had to drop out. Its €45 to do it now but this spot is available for €25 which includes the chipped race and a finishers T-shirt which is very good quality.

Its a really good event and challenge, well worth doing and very doable, despite what they claim.

Give me a shout if anyone interested.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on October 04, 2012, 11:39:23 AM
Anyone any ideas of where to get information on mud runs?  I've been searching but I can't find much about them, particularly around Derry/Tyrone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 07, 2012, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 02, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny

Well that's the last time I do a female-only run on that course - about 2/3 of the course was on a trail that was 2 people wide and I got stuck near the back. Most of the women in front were too busy chatting to consider others behind them trying to get past. Ended up really annoyed for a lot of it and for the first time ever, didn't even have that satisfaction feeling after I finished that I usually have. Going up the hill to Stormont (twice) was very tough.

There's a "run in the dark" 10k in aid of an Irish guy on a Wed in middle of Nov (14/17/ something like that). It's in Belfast, Dub, Cork and a few other places. Belfast run is at Stormont.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:13:52 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 07, 2012, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 02, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny

Well that's the last time I do a female-only run on that course - about 2/3 of the course was on a trail that was 2 people wide and I got stuck near the back. Most of the women in front were too busy chatting to consider others behind them trying to get past. Ended up really annoyed for a lot of it and for the first time ever, didn't even have that satisfaction feeling after I finished that I usually have. Going up the hill to Stormont (twice) was very tough.

There's a "run in the dark" 10k in aid of an Irish guy on a Wed in middle of Nov (14/17/ something like that). It's in Belfast, Dub, Cork and a few other places. Belfast run is at Stormont.

That would be annoying as fook.  Need a wee bell to get past people
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 07, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
I was thinking I could run with a pugel stick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Wrecked after the weekends extersions.

16mile run Saturday morning and then the 10km Hellandback in Bray yesterday.

It was tough going. Preparation of the 16miles and a night out in Dublin wasn't ideal but soldiered round it, finishing in 1hr 11mins and 109th home out of 1400 or so.

Its a good event but once doing it is enough! Didn't push too hard yesterday and just wanted to get round in one piece. Was absolutely caked in mud and dirt after it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Wrecked after the weekends extersions.

16mile run Saturday morning and then the 10km Hellandback in Bray yesterday.

It was tough going. Preparation of the 16miles and a night out in Dublin wasn't ideal but soldiered round it, finishing in 1hr 11mins and 109th home out of 1400 or so.

Its a good event but once doing it is enough! Didn't push too hard yesterday and just wanted to get round in one piece. Was absolutely caked in mud and dirt after it.

Aye the drink will do ya in!!

Anyone doing the Dundrum 8 mile run? Thinking of entering it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 12, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Amen to that. Had to run at 6am this morning because I'm hitting straight from work to the Ireland game.

Last long of 18 on Sunday, the last 8 at target marathon pace of 6.45 and then the taper begins. I find the taper difficult, hard to balance it right.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 12, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Amen to that. Had to run at 6am this morning because I'm hitting straight from work to the Ireland game.

Last long of 18 on Sunday, the last 8 at target marathon pace of 6.45 and then the taper begins. I find the taper difficult, hard to balance it right.

I was planning on running this evening and missing the game but with Robbie Keane out, i'm more optimistic now  ;)

I'm just looking at a 12 mile run this weekend at my pace. Then the taper, thats what the programme I've been following has suggested, so i'll stick to it.

My buddy would say the taper is strange and it feels like you not doing enough. He told me to focus on eating well and hydrating well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 12, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
I know...optimistic myself but 16/1 4-0 Germany looks appealing all the same!

Ya, stick to your program anyways, wrong time to go changing things now. I got a little anxious last year on the Taper because it's odd when you are used to doing more mileage. I'm going to throw in the odd speed session to sharpen up too. I did 10x2 mins hard..1 min easy yesterday in the middle of an 8 mile.

Think i'll do two sessions of 10x1 on 1 off for the next 2 weeks instead.

Yep, pints tonight and that'll be it until the 29th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 11:19:13 AM
The time you are looking at is serious in fairness, I'd do a odd bit of increasing the pace and as I near the pace you'd be looking at, i'd struggle to keep that going for any prolonged distance. I'll be quite happy with the 3.45 pacers and hanging in there.

Enjoy the game and the pints!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on October 12, 2012, 05:03:11 PM
Just looking for some guidance here.

Addidas are narrow fitting and Puma are wide fitting.  What other brands have wide fitting shoes/runners? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 13, 2012, 08:49:53 PM
You'd be as well hitting a specialist sports shop and they'd fit and guide you, where u based ?

Give the run a break today, went for a hike up slieve donard instead! Glorious day on the mountain, fantastic at the top and we'd a big group with us and took some effort to get some of them to top.

Was a duathlon going up it is as well, some serious running going on up it! And down it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 19, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
Just over a week to go till Dublin, out of my hands really at this stage. Just keeping a few easy miles on the clock and keeping the right food and drinks in. Plus importantly trying to avoid people with colds and flu's which is next on impossible!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 19, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Same here. I'm not going to change my eating pattern at all to be honest, might slightly increase carbs next weekend but nothing crazy. Banana and a berocca on the morning of it and that'll be me.

Heard the tshirts are supposed to be slick black long sleeved ones, much better than the puke green of last year anyways. When are you getting your number bingo, Sat or Sunday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 19, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 19, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Same here. I'm not going to change my eating pattern at all to be honest, might slightly increase carbs next weekend but nothing crazy. Banana and a berocca on the morning of it and that'll be me.

Heard the tshirts are supposed to be slick black long sleeved ones, much better than the puke green of last year anyways. When are you getting your number bingo, Sat or Sunday?

I'd be along those lines alright, not going to try anything off the norm food wise and eat sensibly ie no supermacs. Will have the Indian take away as usual this Saturday night. Light breakfast on the morning of it - cereal, tea, toast and banana.

T-shirts sound the job. I'm guessing now that they don't have a main sponsor to keep happy that they have more leeway on the colour scheme.

I'm not 100% sure. Our senior team have a legaue semi final this sunday, win it (be outsiders) and final is on the following sunday, so will want to stay for it, so will take a spin up Saturday to the Expo. Lose this sunday and I'll head up Sunday to collect all, we are staying in a hotel in the city next Sunday to be fresh and ready on Monday morning. Plus we get to use their swimming pool, plunge pool and jacuzzi after the race  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 22, 2012, 12:01:16 PM
Will be in some serious pain this time next Monday.... :-\...hopefully not too much though. How did yer match go Bingo? Just can't wait to get going now, solid training since coming pack from Poland in June , a long time to wait. Have had the meltdown experience of last years marathon hanging over me all year so hopefully i can make up for it now.
Bit of advice regarding the race itself that I wasn't prepared for last year is the noise throughout the course.
Long runs in training and generally quite solitary time on your feet, be prepared for a wall of noise at some sections of the course, Walkinstown roundabout, Teranure, Milltown, Roebuck hill, RDS are a few big ones. It's a completely different atmosphere than the training runs or even 5k, 10k races that are around. Don't get caught up in it and loose track of the race plan, can easily happen.

Plan for the week. Did an 11 tempo yesterday around the Phoenix park, lovely day for it.
Monday - Rest
Tuesday - Easy 7
Wednesday - 7 miles marathon pace 6.45, 2 miles in the middle at 5.55 pace. 30 mins Physio.
Thursday- Easy 5
Friday - Easy 4
Saturday - Rest/Physio
Sunday - Rest
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 22, 2012, 12:22:33 PM
Well lad, this time next week you'll be feet up on the right side of the finishing line and I will likely be on the other side somewhere cursing the day I started running  ;D

Match was lost yesterday, 3 points, lost it in crazy first half - two pen's converted to goals and a man sent off. So will be heading up sunday to the RDS.

Cheers for the pointers, a few have told me that, run my own race and watch the pace. Be easy to get caught up in ocassion and feel the buzz of the crowd, adrenilen kicks in, you feel great and go outside your pace and suffer later for it.

One question is that some say a very light warm is needed, bit of stretching and light jog. The first few miles serve as a good warm up as pace can be slow with heavy traffic? This be right down at my level? You speed demons may have a more rigourous warm up.

I've 8 miles to do this evening and then very little after that 4/3 miles and more resting than anything.

One of the lads that I'm running with is done Amsterdam yesterday and is doing Dublin next week.

Roll on the weekend, busy with work all week so that should help!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 22, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Disaster. Commiserations.

I think I might head across on Sunday too, get me out of the house instead not using up nervous energy!

Yep, pace is seriously slow. I was up the top last year with the 3hr group and didn't get a clear run until Phibsboro church which is around 3 miles in, i'm expecting the same this year again. It could be until the Phoenix park at 4 miles before you get a bit of free space.

Warm up before will be minimal because traffic will be that slow. I'll get up about 6am, stretch and foam roll and breakfast then at 6.30am.

Hope to be near the start line at 8.20ish to get a decent spot like last year, so thats 40 mins basically standing and stretching on the spot. I was there at 8am last year and it was too early but need to be there a bit early to get a good position. It'll be jammed from 25 mins until the gun so bring an old t-shirt and a bottle of water to sip on...even saw lads taking a slash into the empty water bottle and then just leaving it on the ground last year it was so crowded ;D I'd never do something like that though... :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 22, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Be interesting to have a look round the Expo, be the first I've been at. Been told it will be impressive but when you head to the likes of London and Berlin it pales in comparison. After that some of the more regulars guys have a restaurant that they always head to, so we'll be heading there before hitting the hotel for an early night.

I'll blend in the pace at the start and not try to find space and just waste energy.

I'll bear that in mind when we get to the start and work in to get some sort of decent spec.

I'd say not! Reminds me of the start of the samsung 10km in dublin this year, you'll remember the dirty night it was, the lad i was running with told me to look down as we stood waiting to the start and lets just say there was alot more rain running down his leg than was coming out of the sky!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on October 25, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
For anyone in the Fermanagh area there's a 5k in Enniskillen town centre tomorrow night.

http://enniskillenrc.blogspot.co.uk/

Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 25, 2012, 10:34:36 PM

f**k it. Doin my first marathon on Monday.

Not looking for advice or anything - not fast enough for that. Just shittin it, that s all. The training has been great but .......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
Good luck to all you guys on Monday. I hope you meet your goals and/or get round in one piece - whatever it comes down to!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 26, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
I'll second that - good luck - don't think I'll EVER be able for a marathon so am full of respect for those that are, especially if you never thought you'd be able to do it. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2012, 04:40:21 PM
Just at RDS and all signed in for tomorrow.

No turning back now!

Best of luck to ballinaman, hope u break the 3hrs and to moysider as well.

This time tomorrow we'll be laughing  :(  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2012, 06:13:23 PM
Good luck bingo and moysider, its some experience. You'll enjoy it no matter what.
No going back now is right. 5 months training 6 days a week and it comes down to 1 day. No place to hide tomorrow , time for myself to deliver.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 28, 2012, 08:34:50 PM
Moysider, I'll keep an eye out for u tomorrow, my first too.

Did my first 10k ever last weekend in 45.27, (I know, I know, a week before the marathon), apparently that means 3.45 for tomorrow but would be delighted with sub 4.

Best of luck to everyone
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 29, 2012, 03:21:59 PM

Thrilled to bits.

One of the toughest and rewarding things I ve ever done. Highly recommend it. Wish I did this years ago.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
Congrats Moysider, brilliant run.

Tough to find the words to express how happy I am now, ridiculously satisfying. Will give a better race support later.

Fist pumping to the crowd for the last mile when I knew it was in the bag.

2.56

Lifelong goal obtained.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2012, 04:50:58 PM
Well done Ballinaman - great achievement.

Hope to do one myself someday but will stick to the shorter stuff for a while.

Boy from Belfast Irish marathon champ - first time in a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
Well done ballinaman, delighted for you. And fair play moysider.

I came home in 3.40.15. Delighted with that, was going great guns but miles 21-24 was as tough as I've ever been, thought 3.45 was lost but dug deep to finish well inside it. I was barely able to walk after it! A hour in the pool sorted that out!

Some experience and great support round course.

I'll sleep tonight!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2012, 06:48:38 PM
Savage Bingo, delighted for ya. Meteoric rise out of you in fairness in the last couple of years. Congrats.
Race couldn't have went much better. Perfect conditions.
Decent start next to the 3 hour pacers. It was a large group, guts of 100 runners. Thought the pacers were excellent in fairness.

Water stops were mayhem for the 1st few so i decided to edge a little ahead of them around 10 miles. Glanced over the shoulder to make sure I wasn't going too far ahead of them.
Half way in 1.29.28. Feeling grand, passing the same spots where I was in agony last year having to stop to walk.

16 miles in I decided to start making moves away from the 3 hour group. At 20 I was feeling strong so decided push. Last 10km was my fastest of the race, 6.45 average down to 6.30.

It was like wading through a battle zone catching people slowing and walking over the last 6 miles. Fist clenched arm in the air coming down Nassau street, some feeling. Ran a negative split, 2nd half over 2 minutes faster.

Going to take a break from marathons for a good few years now, sub 3 has been done. Want to get 10k and 5k times down. Still in mid 20's so I've a bit of time to come back to the marathon.

Still buzzing, might even go for a jog tomorrow :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on October 30, 2012, 08:00:13 AM
Great Stuff Ballinaman thats fair going and some achievenment . Congrats to Bingo , Moysider(ya kept that 1 quite) and mayo4sam and to anyone else who completed the marathon. There were a lot of runners from ballina atheletic club completing there were hoping to do wellin the team competetion. You can now do the New york marathon Ballinaman  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 10:24:08 AM
Great report Ballinaman, I can only imagine the buzz you had coming up Nassau street. The crowd was serious and even at that I could still pick out my name from a few people who were up supporting.

Weather was ideal, perfect in fact. I was in second wave and was starting near the 4hr pacers, quickly got ahead of them and by the phoenix park was at the 3.45 pacers and it was crowded so went ahead of them and was moving really great at this stage, had to hold myself at times from going to quick.

Support along the route was great and tried to give a few high 5's to kids and they were buzzing off it when you made the effort to reach out to them. Also met some random people on the sidelines from years back who'd I know and got great support from them.

Started to slow down round 19-20 but was ok, going up UCD flyover and i was starting to struggle, two had slowed down ahead and I hadn't the energy or will to move over to pass them, so walked for 5-10 secs and had a word with myself. Had to push on and said to just keep running, one foot ahead of the other. Crawled along for the next 3 miles, pace dropped but i was running, passing and been passed. Round 24 miles I found myself picking up speed again.

Running up westland row was like the Tour De France mountain stages, people out in road willing you on. One of our running group, man of many marathons who had finished his marathon with  a 2.49 time, spotted me and pushed through to run about 50 yards with me and willed me on. Was  brillant and he said he'd see me near the finish and sure enough he was there roaring me on again.

The run up Nassau st was long! But the end was in sight. I made it over the line and struggled through. I'm glad I didn't stop again, as once I stopped running the legs just stiffened and that was it. I was beat. Trying to tie my lace was an ordeal and took 5 attempts. Was a long slow walk back to the hotel.

The experienced runners out the 15 of us where all delighted when we arrived as they all hit their targets, 5 of them sub 3hrs with 3 of them sub 2.50.

The pool in the hotel was a saviour and we got talking to a lad orignally from Galway but living in France this 20 years. His second marathon and unlike Ballinaman he just missed sub 3hr, finished in 3.00.12.

Delighted to have done it. Would definately think I have more in me and will look to go sub 3.30 next time. Considering this time last year I was looking at 5kms and doing my first one in a few weeks time. Plenty of miles have passed since!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Unbelievable stuff there Bingo. Fair play to ya, the hold you did in the Phoneix park was crucial. If you hadn't been wise there it could there could have been serious trouble in the last few miles. The crowd was brilliant, Kids doing the Mobot to us as we passed through Dolphins barn was the highlight for me. The crowds for the last 2 miles were unreal, its something that you don't get in 10Ks and 5ks

Had a good laugh at this sign near Kilmainham.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6X1tcLCEAEoHUr.jpg)

3.30 is 100% one the cards for you the way things are going and with the quality in your training group.

Thanks Deel, really appreciate it. Ya,the club could be close to a 3rd place team finish. Two lads with 2.32s and then a 2.44. Fit4life had savage runs all round too. Would love to give Boston or New York a go someday but Dublin is fantastic too.

As ridiculous as it sounds, gonna to tip out for a 30min run now to get rid of the stiffness.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Cheers Ballinaman. I've a bit of work to do but will look at a few 10kms and 5kms over coming months and some speed work. I've at least another stone to lose and alot of toning to do, particularly on core but if I can get that, I can go faster and longer.

Rather than thinking "thats in, i'm done", I'm looking forward to pushing on. On way home yesterday we where looking at the marathon calender and seeing where we can head to next year.

I actually remember seeing those signs yeaterday. A few others had "Run like you stole it" and another that made me smile (well at least grin) round the 23 mile mark was "why are you reading this, get a move on"

Fair play to you heading for a run, I'm at work and it took me a minute to walk to the bog after sitting for a hour!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Declan on October 30, 2012, 11:49:21 AM
Well done lads. Great achievements all round
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Cheers Ballinaman. I've a bit of work to do but will look at a few 10kms and 5kms over coming months and some speed work. I've at least another stone to lose and alot of toning to do, particularly on core but if I can get that, I can go faster and longer.

Rather than thinking "thats in, i'm done", I'm looking forward to pushing on. On way home yesterday we where looking at the marathon calender and seeing where we can head to next year.

I actually remember seeing those signs yeaterday. A few others had "Run like you stole it" and another that made me smile (well at least grin) round the 23 mile mark was "why are you reading this, get a move on"

Fair play to you heading for a run, I'm at work and it took me a minute to walk to the bog after sitting for a hour!
Made sure to book today off, was a bit odd last year people coming into get Physio and there's me hobbling around the room. :D
Got some quare looks off people running down by the seafront in Clontarf there, people must have thought I stole the marathon tshirt from yesterday!
I'll take it easy for the next month, bit of 5 a side to keep sharp but I'll tip up to your 5K at the start of December all going well!

Thanks Declan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
By the way, does your t-shirt fit? They a bit on the small side, i got a medium and body wise it fits, just about but the sleeves are short. My mate got a large and it the same.

If your down for the 5km let me know, should be a good race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Ya, seemed ok this morning, I went for a large even though I'm medium in everything else. Got a large last year and the large was on the skimpy side of things then. I'm sure you could email them and ask for a swap.Ya, I'll spin up, only up the road sure.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 30, 2012, 04:15:50 PM
Delighted with yesterday, don't know how ur out for a run today Ballinaman.
Seen as I knew I didn't have enough long distance stuff done the plan was to go out strong to 20 miles and then just get home, round th 18 miles mark the times started slowing rapidly from 5:10/k out to 5:20,5:40 and 6, the 3:45 pacers passed me at mile 20 but got home in 3:52, delighted, aim was for sub four.
Met Tom Horkan afterwards, he is some man, 4:20, up from 4 hours last year, his 36th marathon, the man must be the far side of 75!
He reckoned there was 60/70 people from Ballina doing it

I'll be sticking to triathlons and 5k/10ks from now on though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 30, 2012, 04:15:50 PM
Delighted with yesterday, don't know how ur out for a run today Ballinaman.
Seen as I knew I didn't have enough long distance stuff done the plan was to go out strong to 20 miles and then just get home, round th 18 miles mark the times started slowing rapidly from 5:10/k out to 5:20,5:40 and 6, the 3:45 pacers passed me at mile 20 but got home in 3:52, delighted, aim was for sub four.
Met Tom Horkan afterwards, he is some man, 4:20, up from 4 hours last year, his 36th marathon, the man must be the far side of 75!
He reckoned there was 60/70 people from Ballina doing it

I'll be sticking to triathlons and 5k/10ks from now on though!
That's unreal, fair fcuks to you considering your 1st 10k race was a week before the race! The triathlons obviously set you up well, class running it has to be said. Tom is a legend, don't know how he does it, an inspiration. I know of about 23 runners from Ballina and the surrounds who did it for definite but there could be more. We're giving Mayo AC serious trouble in team events now which is brilliant considering they've the whole county to gather runners from.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
Congrats Moysider, brilliant run.

Tough to find the words to express how happy I am now, ridiculously satisfying. Will give a better race support later.

Fist pumping to the crowd for the last mile when I knew it was in the bag.

2.56

Lifelong goal obtained.

Well done Ballinaman. Great stuff.

Well done to everybody that ran it and to all those that came out on the streets.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on November 01, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
Gutted - trained away for Dublin and got floored by calf injury. 

Don't want to waste all that training so aiming to do one early next year instead.

Has anyone tried the Tralee marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 01, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
Went back training tonite on the track, 1,000m reps, tough going, sore and tired legs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
I trained with a few tonight who ran monday mayo4sam... Youd'd be as well taking it easy for a bit.

Great running by all you guys.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 01, 2012, 10:13:36 PM
Don't worry I won't be busting myself for a while, pool in the morning and then back on the bike for November
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 02, 2012, 07:40:05 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 01, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
Went back training tonite on the track, 1,000m reps, tough going, sore and tired legs
Fair play, I went to cross the road quickly yesterday in a burst.. Legs didn't react at all, think I better wait for the green man for another few days. Tissue around left ankle very sore still, only showed its face on tuesday though. Odd.
3 sessions next week to get back on the horse for castleblaney 5k!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2012, 03:26:52 PM
Did the Park run today, boy it was slippy in places. Was well turned out with 172 runners, lots of runners there had done the Dublin marathon and back out again!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
Had my first run yesterday since marathon, legs felt right.

Legs didn't feel so right after it! And was only 6km as well, although I did push a bit hard for the last 4kms or so. Massive difference in the LSR runs of the marathon and coming back down for the 5km pace.

Bit of work to do before the 2nd December, intervals and reps this week i think to try and get some pace back and breathing back. Plus cut out the junk food that was on the menu as treats since the marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 04:37:12 PM
You can say that again Bingo. Tried a few 400 repeats yesterday, only managed 5 because the hamstrings were screaming at me....hell a lot of work to be done. For the next few weeks going to look at maybe 3 sessions a week, 2 x speed, 1 by short tempo.

I see they have set up one of those park run events in Malahide castle grounds every Saturday morning, free timed 5K at 9.30am, starting this weekend.


What are they like Milltown? You doing them in Belfast? What sort of numbers turn up?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 04:37:12 PM
You can say that again Bingo. Tried a few 400 repeats yesterday, only managed 5 because the hamstrings were screaming at me....hell a lot of work to be done. For the next few weeks going to look at maybe 3 sessions a week, 2 x speed, 1 by short tempo.

I see they have set up one of those park run events in Malahide castle grounds every Saturday morning, free timed 5K at 9.30am, starting this weekend.


What are they like Milltown? You doing them in Belfast? What sort of numbers turn up?

I was told to take it very easy after the marathon but was thinking I was fine. Another lesson learned. I'll chance a run on Wednesday and if it goes well with work it into some tempe running with a speed session next if that goes well. Won't be forcing it for fear of damage.

The hardened lads up here are looking at tipping down to the Clonakility Marathon on 8th December, I was asked along but defo not going to push myself so soon. But we are looking at possibly Paris Marathon i April.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 05:32:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.

Sounds good to me. I registered there and will bring the barcode with me, probably will be Saturday week though before I get over to it. Fair play for organising them, sounds like a great idea. Probably will take a few weeks to take off but I'm sure there is an appetite for them in Dublin.
5K in Castleblaney on 2nd December. Fast and well organised course by all counts, bingo is your man for further details.

Jaysus, thats some going. I watched that movie about the lads running in the Sahara the last day, don't know how the Ultra lads do it one day after another.,Paris is supposed to be great, bit more attractive than Rotterdam which is around the same time as far as I know. Ya, legs were shot yesterday, felt grand jogging but as soon as put the foot down felt them big time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 06:02:46 PM
Them waterworks runs and now the Dublin ones are great ideas. In the run up to the 5km run we are having, we have the Operation  Tranfaughmation programme to get people out and more active - weekly circuit classes, another weekly class (Pilates, boxercise, bootcamp etc) and then sunday morning is running groups. On a dirty wet, cold morning yesterday we had over 80 there. Fierce appetite for it at the minute.

Those guys would have serious miles in the legs and they say they body adjusts and expects that to be maintained. If you ever read Gerry Duffys book on the 32 marathons, he says his quickest marathon was on the second last day, 3hrs 17 or something. Totally conditioned to it. I'd be a long way off!

Rotterdam is a lovely fast course according to one of the guys who done it this year but doesn't have the same atmosphere of the big city or the nice host city ambience. I'll follow the crowd at this stage anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Your body would harden to the marathon. There was a boy up here ran 2:42 in snowdonia marathon on the sarurday and ran 2:40 something (2:46 or something like that) on the Monday in Dublin.

There's boys pace 3 hours too and it takes nothing from them. It's basically that you harden to miles over the years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 05, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
Loving the Parkrun, as is my bf and bro in law. I am now doing sub-25 and started off at 28.30.

Of couse I bring the boy with me on wk 2 and he breaks 19...

It'll soon be time for me to volunteer.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 05, 2012, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 05, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
Loving the Parkrun, as is my bf and bro in law. I am now doing sub-25 and started off at 28.30.

Of couse I bring the boy with me on wk 2 and he breaks 19...

It'll soon be time for me to volunteer.

I'm expecting to be back at the Parkrun once the snow and ice kicks in and the golf course is closed. Sub 25 is where I left off, but I expect to be 28+ when I return  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 07, 2012, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.

That sounds nasty (No idea what it is!!), you're in good hands anyway  :) Hope it wasn't the run the day after the marathon that done it.

I went to a circuits class last night, was a tight one, lot of Lunges, dips, squats and press-ups etc but actually feel better for it today, apart from tight groins, feel more loosened out any other time since the marathon. Pilates Friday night and then some reps at weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 07, 2012, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.

That sounds nasty (No idea what it is!!), you're in good hands anyway  :) Hope it wasn't the run the day after the marathon that done it.

I went to a circuits class last night, was a tight one, lot of Lunges, dips, squats and press-ups etc but actually feel better for it today, apart from tight groins, feel more loosened out any other time since the marathon. Pilates Friday night and then some reps at weekend.
Don't think it was, say it was towards the latter stages of the race when i put the foot down. F*ck it sure, better to happen then than a week before. Ha, true...better listen to my own advice now! It's a common enough problem with distance running, small muscle that controls movement of foot on foot strike that get overworked and tight, tendonitis is the release valve of that pressure then!
Good stuff, the cross training is the job. Thats all I'll be doing and a bit of TRX too. Pain in the arse but shit happens!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.

The one on Saturday had 172 runners going at it. Deputy Lord Mayor handing out medals and McKillop there also handing out prizes.

Great wee run for a 9.30 start to the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
You not fancy the falls park one mr? It could be doing with the help with numbers as one of the lower attended ones...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2012, 08:16:48 AM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/ (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/)

That should be all you need hs. Just get a barcode, turn up and run. Good wee event. That one could be doing with more numbers too though it gets 30-40 per week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 07, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
You not fancy the falls park one mr? It could be doing with the help with numbers as one of the lower attended ones...

Aye might give it a go some morning, it's just that the Waterworks one is closer and i go to a class at the gym straight afterwards, timing would be difficult.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 08, 2012, 06:17:05 PM
See the lad who finished 17th in the marathon alledgedly cheated, there seems to be some chat on-line about it, this is from the Daily Mail

http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article440eb407-e20d-4133-ac6d-29ea9ffc813d
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 08, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Saw this story a day or two after the race over on boards.ie in the athletics section, the lad was seen by a friend of a poster entering the race down by the RDS. The lad doesn't have a 20mile split so probably nipped down through Clonskeagh after the half way marker. Posters on boards said he has history similar amazing 2nd half splits.

You'd wonder what would motivate you to do that, you may as well come 300th as 30th and there was always a high probability of being caught in a high profile race such as the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
What a nobhead, I mean what will he ever think of achieving? bragging rights in the pub afterwards? Hope if he's part of a running club that he's kicked out.

I have been doing the spin classes for few months and the amount of blaggers that go is unreal, why turn up if you don't put on resistance on the bike??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 08, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
What a nobhead, I mean what will he ever think of achieving? bragging rights in the pub afterwards? Hope if he's part of a running club that he's kicked out.

I have been doing the spin classes for few months and the amount of blaggers that go is unreal, why turn up if you don't put on resistance on the bike??
Ya, very strange. Wore a crusaders ac top from Dublin but seems like he turned up to training once to get the top and never saw him again. Hope he's banned from AAI races for a long time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2012, 09:11:19 PM
That fella in england who got the bus to finish third got kicked out of a race recently and is banned from all steve cram organised races so he may get similar treatment.

What is the point. Hard to understand why you'd bother. Not exactly an achievement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 08, 2012, 10:05:41 PM
He can't be right in the head in fairness, he's obviously in reasonable shape given his splits, you'd feel sorry for him that it's not enough to finish and have that achievement.

Am 50-50 about that 5k on Saturday, would like to have a time but at training this evening felt like there was lead in my legs still
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 10, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
Anyone else do the park run this morning? Lovely course and perfect conditions.
Very well run, although a steward did go missing in the last half km and I think a few lads may have gotten away with a short cut.
I'll be back though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Thinking of doing the Larne half marathon, 23rd March. Anyone done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on November 10, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Thinking of doing the Larne half marathon, 23rd March. Anyone done it before?

Not done it before, but It's on my radar too Milltown. I'm training towards it now, and if I don't come out of it suicidal I'll do the Belfast marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on November 10, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
Now that i am winding down from the football i was thinking of doing either the Omagh Half Marathon on the 23rd March or the Larne Half a week later on the 30th March. I wonder would both be too much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
I was hoping to do Larne too MR. They changed the course this year but when I did it, and I don't think it's changed that much, it was basically 5-6 mile flat, 2 miles of tough enough hills and then the rest was flat. Omagh is a lot hilier overall. Tyroneboi it wouldn't be too much if you're fit enough but you could do one and enter on the day of the other if you're fit for it.

Great turnout at that first parkruin Mayo4sam. I know a few who went down from here. I ran the waterworks one in Belfast and beat my PB in it from bang on 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
I was hoping to do Larne too MR. They changed the course this year but when I did it, and I don't think it's changed that much, it was basically 5-6 mile flat, 2 miles of tough enough hills and then the rest was flat. Omagh is a lot hilier overall. Tyroneboi it wouldn't be too much if you're fit enough but you could do one and enter on the day of the other if you're fit for it.

Great turnout at that first parkruin Mayo4sam. I know a few who went down from here. I ran the waterworks one in Belfast and beat my PB in it from bang on 2 years ago.

One of my students is trying to call my bluff and get me to do it. He finished last year on 1.40 or thereabouts. I'd need to beat that to be able to show my face!! I'm aming for 1.30, so will put in a few 6 milers in coming weeks just to see how I fare.

Looking running shoes also, any decent priced ones out there at the minute?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 11, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
Looking at new ones myself when I get back going in a few weeks.

Normally use Asics 2170's but looking at the Nike Lunar glides, little bit cheaper and have got good reviews too. Never used Nike before, have a neutral arch, anyone here use Nike?

Congrats on the PB tommy, you tipping close to 17 or even under for 5k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 04:34:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 11, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
Looking at new ones myself when I get back going in a few weeks.

Normally use Asics 2170's but looking at the Nike Lunar glides, little bit cheaper and have got good reviews too. Never used Nike before, have a neutral arch, anyone here use Nike?

Congrats on the PB tommy, you tipping close to 17 or even under for 5k?

£100! Is that the rate now? last time I bought a pair was 4 or so years ago, christ nowt cheap now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 11, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Havnt been on here in a while. Some good marathon running there guys. Injured at minute myself but on road to recovery. Lookin forward to getting back running soon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
The one goal i've not met this year bm is sub 17. The parkrun was just a wee sharpener for a 10k next week- it was of the back of a hard week so i think sub 17 in there when i get the right race.

Mr 1:30 is a tough nut to crack for a half- you'd be needing plenty of miles in the bank for that. Trainers don't need to be 100. Start fitness, sweatshop , sports direct etc online good for them. Last year's model a good one to go for as usually cheaper and never that much difference. Asics irritate my ankle so wear brooks so they're a wee bit dearer. Asics would be fine though - just make sure you get the right cushioning in them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 12, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
I had a pair of New Balance but was getting problems on the archs of the feet, so got fitted and got a pair of Asics 2170's, haven't had a problem at all since. Got them in total black and everyone looks at them thinking they big and heavy and not for running but they light as a feather and great to run in.

They did cost a few quid but well worth it.

I know a few guys and they would have two pairs and rotate them when running. Not sure why but they would think its common enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 08:51:17 AM
Think I'll give the park run in Malahide tomorrow a go, have a good DIY job done on the foot and is painfree now. Anyone here going?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tubberman on November 16, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.

Sounds lovely, ye'll be looking mighty ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 16, 2012, 09:51:42 AM
I want to give some credit where its due.

I bought a pair of Saucony trainers for the Belfast Marathon from Up and Running.  Best investment ever, light as a feather. 

Anyway 5 months on and the sole started peeling.  Brought back to U&R and Catriona the manager took them to let the Saucony sales Rep look at them and he repalced them with a new pair.

10k runs are my max but I'll wear Saucony till I quit now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on November 16, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.

Sounds lovely, ye'll be looking mighty ;)

All Blacks on tour sure.....only gear thats clean actually.. ;)


Interesting article on ice baths...
http://humankinetics.me/2012/11/12/ice-baths-may-injure-rather-than-heal/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 10:23:40 AM
There are a load of variables in those things though BM:

- Did everyone do the same session?
- What were the effort levels of those sessions?
- When someone didn't have the ice bath did they push as hard as the time they didn't?

Sure you'll read theories on stretching not providing any benefit too but would you believe that... If you push yourself hard I think ice baths will couteract the DOMs a good bit.

You should be near the front of that parkrun anyway. The top end was in the 18s last week I think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 10:47:22 AM
Agree tommy, there is conflicting evidence for most practices in sport science if you look hard enough these days. Would like to see the full article as you said with the variables outlined.
Really? The lungs are in for some shock tomorrow so, don't have a clue what type of time I'll do to be honest. No intervals in months, just want to see how much work is needed really.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
Yeah the real fast boys don't normally come out at parkrun... I'd be close enough to winning parkruns most times I turn up and you'd be similar pace or faster. Low 18s won it in malahide last week.

That was my first 5k in a long time last week. At 9:30 in the morning after a full training week. Not easy to say the least. Running fast that early alien to me!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
From what I hear there'll be a few faster lads tomorrow, last week was 18:19 I think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
Them Parkruns are a great job, fair play to those getting them off the ground.

From looking at Boards.ie, it took a bit of work and effort to get the Malahide one up and going. Plus money to be able to do them for free. Does it come from Council funding and some private sponsorship?

Must say, I loved an ice bath after a long slow run during the marathon training. At the very least you could move afterwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 12:08:43 PM
You have to come up with a few thousand for it Bingo. Generally speaking the councils will fund it and someone from a running club will undertake the running of it. They're a gift for councils making metrics for healthy living etc so it seems quite a few embrace it. I think they say parkrun will fund 3k of it and you fund the other 3. How that translates into euros I don't know though as that's sterling...

There's quite a bit goes into setting them up with regards to getting routes, making sure they're suitable, getting funding etc etc but the key thing is sustaining them. They get sustained on good will from people who enjoy them so help by volunteering usually from anything I can see up here.

Yeah I don't believe the ice bath thing at all...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
I seen a figure of 6k mentioned on boards. It would be the commitment to it that would be the issue as you say over time, you'd need a wide base and decent population to get people onboard and keep them onboard with a decent % willing to commit to helping out at times. Seems to take 3/4 people not running every week to set up and manage.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 12:52:25 PM
From reding boards they suggest 3 times a year as a volunteer is about right. I think with IMRA it's one in every ten
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
You could get away with about 4 coordinating it worst case but 6 or so a good number. I ran on saturday then did results so you can double up. The 3 times a year is just a guide. Some people seem to volunteer plenty and some not at all but once it's got going here it's generated enough good will that people are always willing to help out and is self sustaining.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
You could get away with about 4 coordinating it worst case but 6 or so a good number. I ran on saturday then did results so you can double up. The 3 times a year is just a guide. Some people seem to volunteer plenty and some not at all but once it's got going here it's generated enough good will that people are always willing to help out and is self sustaining.

Wife running tomorrow, I'll be there but have picked up a wee throat infection and runny nose!! So I'll head down with the kids and cheer her on. The time two weeks ago was pretty quick imtommygunn. I'll run it the following week. Might do a lap (or half) first to warm up, as you say it's an early start and I aint at full pelt
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on November 18, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
There is a run in Annalong, Co. Down , on Saturday 24th November at 11am ( registration from 9am). There is a fun-run/walk of 4 miles and a 10 mile run which takes in the lower slopes of the Mournes including a tunnel at Dunney Water- fantastic views, fresh air, close proximity to three well known GAA clubs ( Glasdrumman( Celebrity bainisteoir champions 2009), Longstone (home to Ambrose Rodgers and Mark Poland) and Ballymartin (home to Gregory McCartan and Paul Higgins). Registration is a fiver which goes to the Mourne mountain rescue service. Starts at the Annalong Marine Park so will be a 'cross-community' job- definitely one for a winter's day !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Maurice Moss on November 19, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Has anyone ever took part in the tough mudder endurance runs? Looks a wild tough session!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on November 20, 2012, 10:47:43 AM
 :(

Over before it started (properly...again)

Well, the visit to the specialist last week after my eight-month layoff had both good and bad news.  Firstly, the spondylolysthesis appears to have stopped and the slippage between the L5 and the S1 has stopped.  Also, calcification has begun between the vertabrae meaning that the nerves should not be under as much pressure as before.  Still doesn't stop me from being in fekkin agony getting out of bed or from getting up from the couch.

The bad news...the running is over.  No more.  Not allowed as the compression on the bone could crack the calcification and that could be irreperable.  If that happens I will need an operation to fuse the vertabrae together by the insertion of pins between four of the bones and that will keel me over for between three and six months.

From what I've been told, several of the teams in WA are breathing a sigh of relief as I was considering yet another comeback.  I heard rumours Alrite Horse was considering a lucrative transfer package. :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 23, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
1 week Sunday to go to the local 5km, had a few runs over the last few weeks and starting to get some pace back. Great interest in the race at a local level and should be a decent crowd running it.

Have a good run out tonight with the football club senior team who are having one of the local runners (and my running pal) in, to take them through their paces on the track, should be good and he is determined to make his mark!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 24, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Well that was a slippy one this morn for the parkrun! Hardly any PBs as everyone was too busy trying not to slip. Nice day for running if it hadn't been at the Waterworks.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 24, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Well that was a slippy one this morn for the parkrun! Hardly any PBs as everyone was too busy trying not to slip. Nice day for running if it hadn't been at the Waterworks.

Was going to head over today but when I woke the place was frozen over so decided not to, Gym'd it instead in the nice air conditioning place!!

Yeah PB's would be hard to come by today
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 27, 2012, 01:43:42 PM
Legend...

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/602288_500539536635777_1234877060_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Haha. Thats a good one.

I seen one for sale with "Are the Kenyans still behind me?" on the front.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 01, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Meeting a young wan for a few drinks tonight so won't be able to make the Castleblaney 5K tomorrow...3rd year lucky next year maybe Bingo, typical!

So I headed out for the parkrun this morning instead. Getting the leg speed back is proving much harder than expected, serious burn at the back of the throat coming towards the end. Was in 5th with about 500 to go and came up on 4th, a guy in his 40's I'd say who was slowing. So I gave him a shout to keep her lit and was going to run in with him, the cheeky bugger started sprinting with about 200....so i said, feck this...not getting beaten by a lad around 20 years older than me in a sprint finish!haha...17.25 in the end. Two more weekends to get under the 17 and then might take a break for around 3 months.

edit: the guy was in his 50's looking at the results, christ!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Heading to Blayney Bowl?  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Heading to Blayney Bowl?  ;)

Haha, well they do serve them! It's been that long I can't even spell it. Two and I'll be anyone's.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 03, 2012, 08:11:25 AM
From the indo on Thursday lads . So know too much running is bad for you as well  ???

Health News Home
Thursday November 29 2012

DOING too many marathons could kill you, doctors have said in a stark warning about the dangers of taking too much vigorous exercise.

Fitness fanatics should do "just one or a few" marathons or full-distance triathlons, say the cardiologists, because over-exerting the heart for years can lead to long-term damage.

There is now convincing evidence that repeatedly asking the heart to pump "massive" volumes of blood, for hours at a time, can lead to an array of problems, they say.

These include overstretching of the organ's chambers, thickening of its walls and changes to electrical signalling. These could trigger potentially dangerous heart rhythm problems.

"In addition, long-term excessive exercise may accelerate aging in the heart, as evidenced by increased coronary artery calci?cation, diastolic ventricular dysfunction, and large-artery wall stiffening," they write in the journal Heart.

Dr James O'Keefe and Carl Lavie, from St Luke's Mid America Heart Institute in Kansas City, and the Pennington Biomedical Research Centre in Baton Rouge, US, say the heart is only designed for "short bursts" of intense activity.

They cite the example of Micah True, the hero of the book Born to Run about ultra-endurance running.

He died in March, aged 58, on a 12-mile training run in New Mexico. He routinely ran a marathon a day, sometimes more.

They believe that decades of such exertion led him to develop Phidippides cardiomyopathy.

Named after the original runner, who died delivering news of the Greeks' victory at Marathon, it is "the constellation of cardiac pathology that has been in observed in the hearts of some veteran extreme endurance athletes".

They concluded that most people should limit vigorous exercise to 30 to 50 minutes a day.

"If one really wants to do a marathon or full-distance triathlon etc, it may be best to do just one or a few and then proceed to safer and healthier exercise patterns," they advise.

No amount light to moderate exercise is harmful, they note.

"A routine of moderate physical activity will add life to your years, as well as years to your life.

"In contrast, running too fast, too far, and for too many years may speed one's progress towards the ?nish line of life."

Ellen Mason, senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart Foundation, said: "Whether you're taking part in an endurance event, watching your weight or staying healthy after a heart attack, it's important to build up your activity levels gradually, especially if you've not exercised in a while."

Stephen Adams Telegraph.co.uk
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 03, 2012, 12:12:46 PM
I wonder if there are other motives behind this research, wouldn't be surprised if it was backed by gym based company who are loosing serious business due to the upsurge in running. Talk about a sensationalistic headline. So basically they are saying, If you run flat out every day it'll catch up with you sooner or later. No shit Sherlock.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 03, 2012, 12:12:46 PM
I wonder if there are other motives behind this research, wouldn't be surprised if it was backed by gym based company who are loosing serious business due to the upsurge in running. Talk about a sensationalistic headline. So basically they are saying, If you run flat out every day it'll catch up with you sooner or later. No shit Sherlock.

Aye was a bit daft that. Seen a report like this before. I'm sure there are more lads dropping dead from heart conditions due to poor exercise and bad diet!! I'll take my chances with running and other exercises
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 03, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
I know for a fact that having too many birthday parties will kill you.

Though it shouldnt stop you doing marathons.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
Try a slightly longer run once a week but do it a good bit slower. Just stick at it at low effort levels. You'd be amazed that this will bring you on and bring you on quickly. The lower effort level stuff does wonders for the fitness. Lower but not too low. S that you feel reasonably fresh at the end of it.

Edit: just read bm's comments. I would agree with some of it. The longer stuff will help you no end. Basically get yourself comfortable running for longer periods of time. The best way is slow running. If you're ok with this already then look at the tempo but only if you can run 40 minutes.

Step 1 to running is fitness, then strength and then fine tune the speed. 2 or 3 not so easy without 1 but if you have1 tempos the way to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
Did a Vo2 max test with the guys at myhealthmatters.ie. Tough going but would highly recommend it, need to get myself a heart rate monitor to get the most out of training by the looks of it. Got a metabolic test done too, not taking in enough calories it seems...sitting on my arse all day and not evening training I'd need to be taking in 2,800 to break even, needs to be 3,500 with a hour running session say and then 4,500 if i want to start building more muscle!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 06, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
Did one myself with them in summer, very useful. Ideally the heart rate monitor would be the way to go but I haven't got into myself. I got a few good things out of it, my metabolism is very poor, so have had to change that to lose the excess weight I carry. When running I don't burn enough calories due to poor muscle structure and the poor metabolism. Have improved this with strength and conditioning to build muscles.

A few of us going to structure a programme in January based n the Vo2 test and get it done again.

5km went well the other day, 650 or so done it between runners and walkers, great turnout considering the poor day it was. Winning time of just over 16mins. I was just outside 20mins, had hoped to go below but was slow to start and took a while to get into it, i suppose I wasn't in race mode all morning as I was running round getting stuff sorted for race right up to the off. Enjoyable day though and had a right session after it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 08, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
Samuel Wanjiru - huge loss to athletics. Amazing to see this view of him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-SxTnqCmLA&t=0m50s
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 09, 2012, 01:09:02 PM
Well done to the women's cross country (with snow) on doing the double at the Europeans, team and individual gold.

Should run at Olympics round a fid without the track.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 09, 2012, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 09, 2012, 01:09:02 PM
Well done to the women's cross country (with snow) on doing the double at the Europeans, team and individual gold.

Should run at Olympics round a fid without the track.
sensational stuff from the women!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 14, 2012, 11:06:37 AM
Some comeback!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K6oZI8L59Nw
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 14, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
If you're doing the Park Run tomorrow morning in the Waterworks, Beal Feirste, then watch out for the black swan

(http://i45.tinypic.com/nv6t8k.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
There's the odd spide on his way home with a bottle of buckfast you need to watch out for too Orior!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on December 14, 2012, 05:17:08 PM
It's my first volunteering session tomorrow at the Waterworks - I believe I will be scanning the barcodes!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
Read the wee cue card Rois and you'll be grand. Easy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 25, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.
well done, keep her lit and you'll get there soon enough. 4 mile race tomorrow, should be interesting after the dinner and 4 desserts today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 25, 2012, 07:23:28 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Time will keep coming down,  keep at it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 25, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 25, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 25, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Are you the only one of the original Couch to 5kers still at it? I think I did the first week  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 25, 2012, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.


I'd be delighted with 25 minutes for a 5k Orior . What are are you out of interest ? Back training tomorrow hope to do a half Marathon in a few months time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 25, 2012, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 25, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 25, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Are you the only one of the original Couch to 5kers still at it? I think I did the first week  :-[

I got to week 7/8 the first time, 4k very slowly. Then I got a Baker's cyst in the back of my knee and had to rest.

Started again and decided to run a faster pace this time from the word go. Got to week 7 and have been stuck there for a few weeks. But I am still in the game and the knee is holding. If I do a 5k in 25 mins (even 28 mins) I will be over the moon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 25, 2012, 10:48:23 PM
10km race in morning for local charity, it's a great social run and will help blow the turkey off before I refill on it.

Should be great!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on December 27, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 28, 2012, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 27, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?
Good stuff, not a bad present there. Is it the Polar one with GPS and HR monitor combined? Nice bit of tech that is.

The best man to ask would be tommygunn here, think he said he has been training with HR monitor for a few years now. Going to get into using it myself now, will definitely make your training more efficient if you get running in the right "zones".

Ended up just outside 23 mins for the 4 mile on stephens day, brutal course...one of the hardest ever I would go as far to say! Great turn out though considering the amount of grub the day before, great to see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 27, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?

Birthday in couple of days was thinking of one of those things for myself. Did you get the Garmin one or another type? Did Santa let you know how much it cost?

Reading up on a few there and they seem grand, wouldn't be mad keen on long distance running, 10K would be my limit, although I've been talked into the Larne half marathon :o They seem decent jobs all the same and able to check your distance and match it with your last run. Would hate to do the same route all the time and this device would be able to give you an accurate time/distance run each time. Whats the recommended heart rate level that you should be aiming for (above flatline :P)? Notice ones at gym using them on the spin bike for monitoring the heart rate.

All this talk of running, away off to the gym now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on December 28, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
It's the Garmin forerunner 410.

The cheapest I've seen it is £140. Handy bit of kit definitely I think I may need to do a bit of research around heart rate zones and such to work it out for myself.

www.handtec.co.uk/garmin-forerunner-410-010-00658-40.html?gclid=CNf9mOL_vLQCFe7MtAodpy4Agg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 29, 2012, 06:53:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 27, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?

Birthday in couple of days was thinking of one of those things for myself. Did you get the Garmin one or another type? Did Santa let you know how much it cost?

Reading up on a few there and they seem grand, wouldn't be mad keen on long distance running, 10K would be my limit, although I've been talked into the Larne half marathon :o They seem decent jobs all the same and able to check your distance and match it with your last run. Would hate to do the same route all the time and this device would be able to give you an accurate time/distance run each time. Whats the recommended heart rate level that you should be aiming for (above flatline :P)? Notice ones at gym using them on the spin bike for monitoring the heart rate.

All this talk of running, away off to the gym now

"easy" running is 70% heart rate so you should keep the heart rate below that on easy runs. Tempo runs are 85.

Gps watches are great but mainly for number nerds... Heart rate training great for the fitness so i'd recommend it for that. You can also do measured intervals etc with specified recoveries and you can use a ghost feature to race against yourself from previous runs. Watches good for heart rate training but you need to know your zones.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 29, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 29, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 02, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
I normally go on the treadmill for 5k or 20mins whatever comes first, today I gave a debut to a new pair of trainers and after 10 mins I started to feel a lot of lower back pain and had to go off.  Is this normal? Back has been sore all day and it hurts to bend over. #sadface
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 02, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 29, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o

50 mins for 5k?

I hope you dont mind me saying and even with the late night excuse, but you are a crap runner Milltown Row.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 02, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 29, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o

50 mins for 5k?

I hope you dont mind me saying and even with the late night excuse, but you are a crap runner Milltown Row.

?? I'm a 21 minute man for 5K. Got the Garmin watch, which really worries me as it means her in doors is probably reading my posts FFS. Will get it up loaded tomorrow when I get a chance
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 03, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
New year and new targets I suppose. Did a 10km race on St Stephens day and another run another day but have been quite lazy during the holidays, which is excuseable after a hard year.

Committed to a 30 day challenge starting pm Saturday - 30 days, 30 runs at a minimum of 30 mins a day. Will be interesting and a good start to the year.

Looking at doing the Connemarathon in early April or the belfast marathon in May. Have to decide this week and sort out a plan for the spring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 01:01:57 PM
A friend of mine in work started running 3 miles per day on 1 July - it's a challenge that lasts a year ( www.1095miles.com).

She's over halfway through it.  She's done one marathon and only took up running in 2010 but I'm super-impressed with her dedication to be out every day. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 03, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 03, 2013, 01:01:57 PM
A friend of mine in work started running 3 miles per day on 1 July - it's a challenge that lasts a year ( www.1095miles.com).

She's over halfway through it.  She's done one marathon and only took up running in 2010 but I'm super-impressed with her dedication to be out every day.
That's class, fair play to her. Some going, hope she doesn't get sick or something.

I'm going into hibernation training wise until the end of March. Going to get stuck into 5K/10K training to peak in August-September and then start into marathon training in November for Boston marathon 2014.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 03, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
Just in from a 12K, did it in 53 mins. The first one of 2013 and it feels great!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on January 03, 2013, 09:40:49 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

The New York St. Patrick's Day parade will be on Saturday this year, it is never held on a Sunday.

http://nycstpatricksparade.org/parade-information
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

Implement a backup BF just in case.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 03, 2013, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

Implement a backup BF just in case.

No need, I'm not accompanying him,just don't want people blaming me if he can't run for charity.

Jeez I couldn't handle two of them...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: dec on January 03, 2013, 09:40:49 PM


The New York St. Patrick's Day parade will be on Saturday this year, it is never held on a Sunday.

http://nycstpatricksparade.org/parade-information

Oh that's even better - he can enjoy pints on Sunday without having to feel guilty about missing parades  ;D

Thanks Dec!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GJL on January 04, 2013, 10:20:56 PM
Any of you tried spinning. Started it at the end of November and do it once a week. Tough stuff but good results.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 04, 2013, 10:20:56 PM
Any of you tried spinning. Started it at the end of November and do it once a week. Tough stuff but good results.

Do it 3 times a week, it's tough and can get as tough as you want it to be, depending on the resistance you put on while doing it.

It's a serious cardio work out and at the gym I go to there classes is the morning (before work) and classes at night, very popular
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 06, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
I have heard of a couple of fellas that go to a gym and then pay a personal trainer to devise some strict fitness and diet plan, £100 a week apparently. I saw the results for one of the fellas and they were really impressive.

Surely you could do this off your own bat without handing over that sort of dough and I can imagine you would slip a bit when you finish the programme. One of the fellas quit the programme as the diet was too tough but is still ploughing on with the workout.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2013, 10:58:44 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Minder there are some good pt guys out there - though more bad than good. Fitness is about time and effort more than anything with the key point the routine so most people should be able to get themselves fit with the motivation. I have heard of some boys doing the same as what you talk about - the dieting on that is pretty extreme and the average joe wouldn't know about that. It all depends what you want. There would probably be a bit of vanity more than a desire to get fit in that £100 a week programme... £100 a week is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2013, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2013, 10:58:44 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Minder there are some good pt guys out there - though more bad than good. Fitness is about time and effort more than anything with the key point the routine so most people should be able to get themselves fit with the motivation. I have heard of some boys doing the same as what you talk about - the dieting on that is pretty extreme and the average joe wouldn't know about that. It all depends what you want. There would probably be a bit of vanity more than a desire to get fit in that £100 a week programme... £100 a week is ridiculous.

I think you are right there, both of the fellas are also doing the sunbeds as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Are these guys after the Jersey/Geordie Shore look or just trying to get fit and lose a bit of weight. 100 per week seems excessive when there is plenty of cheaper alternatives available i'd guess unless its body building they looking to replicate.

Took the plunge and signed up for the Connemarathon on the 7th April. Will be a tight one, me and hills will be getting very friendly in the coming months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 07, 2013, 09:36:26 AM
£100 a week seems a bit ridiculous. A lad round our way is a Strength and Conditioning coach and is taking us for a couple of sessions a week. Serious weights but he's into technique and getting it right and I can't argue with him as the improvements I've had in 6 weeks are great. I imagine if you did something like that and had a proper diet (Why do you need people to tell you what to eat surely it's fairly obvious at this stage what you should eat) you'd be the next 'situation'.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 07, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 07, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2013, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 07, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc

Show on TV the other day where a girl had 4 eggs a day for four weeks, apparently you have good and bad cholestrol and after the 4 weeks there was no difference in her bad cholestrol at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 02:34:41 PM
I started running about 16 months ago, have never weighed myself in that time, I don't know what weight I am now or when I started. In that time I've been weighed 3 times but have never looked or asked what weight I am.

Not sure why or that and I know I have lost weight but it really wasn't about losing weight for me. I knew I would if i stuck at it but I see it as an added bonus and all part of the reward. That sounds very corny but just the way I see it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
I thought if I got to 80kgs I'd be happy, which I am but I can still see where I could lose an extra few kg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Canalman on January 07, 2013, 03:31:00 PM
From what I have been told ............... losing an inch from the waist is roughly  equal to losing a stone of weight.
Have probably posted this before but the best weight loss advice  I was given is to always have apples in the house and to try and eat one if the munchies strike late at night or in the evening.

Anyone who has ever played a team sport should easily have the discipline to lose weight imho. Problem is the difficulty in  now doing it all on your own and not as part of a team.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 07, 2013, 09:39:58 PM
A couple of things,  i have gone from nearly 15 stone, down to 13.5 now, this is in the space of 7 months of running. I have to say i wouldn't like to lose any more anymore.

Over the Christmas, i went against all my objectives and am thinking of doing a marathon in 2014 i'd say. I am up to 12 miles a week, 2 boot camps and one hour spinning.

Are marathons tough out, i personally feel i have good distance in my legs, but my speed is slow, so i guess a marathon would suit me. I can do 7 miles (11.5 K) on the flat in just under the hour, and 9k seriously uphill road in 45-47 mins.

Any advice to get the ball rolling. Thanks

Finally, taking up serious exercise is the best thing i have ever done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 07, 2013, 11:48:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2013, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 07, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc

Show on TV the other day where a girl had 4 eggs a day for four weeks, apparently you have good and bad cholestrol and after the 4 weeks there was no difference in her bad cholestrol at all.

That s the thing. Eggs got a bad press for years but in recent years there has been a review.

I don t eat much eggs - even though I ve ducks, quails, hens, geese around the place. But I d eat no more than 2 eggs a week because of the scary press about eggs in the past. Apparently duck eggs are even better for the good cholestrol bad cop balance. Provided they are fresh and need maybe to be cooked a bit harder - ducks tend to lay their eggs in muck! So samonella always flagged though I ve never come accross it. And bakers know that duck eggs are way better.

A goose egg of course is a rare treat - and as good as a fillet steak!

Here sausages and pork have always been seen as a cholestrol problem - but in France, lamb fat is considered worse. Steak being least threatening.

The worst of course is cheese, cakes and any bars and chocs.

As it happens my good cholestrol is very good but the bad creep has ........ well ......crept in.

I ll get back to ye about this after I have next test with the help of God. Already I have suspicions that what that you should eat is more important as the bad stuff you do eat.

You Must Eat; Porridge, Loads of 'fresh' fruit. Apparently the 'apple- a - day' thing was more than a rhyme - makes sense, people brought apples everywhere. Like we did with things that were good for us.  And veg. Nuts and seeds if ye can get them. And as many wild mushrooms as you can find. For pure taste.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Gaelgoir, hate to break it to u but ur doing the same pace on the flat as u are on the seriously uphill!

It sounds like ur flying it, a marathon in 2013 would be well within ur reach. I'd recommend joining a running club, speed track sessions, hill sessions will all bring you on heaps coupled with stretching out the longer runs over time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 08, 2013, 09:26:29 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 07, 2013, 09:39:58 PM
A couple of things,  i have gone from nearly 15 stone, down to 13.5 now, this is in the space of 7 months of running. I have to say i wouldn't like to lose any more anymore.

Over the Christmas, i went against all my objectives and am thinking of doing a marathon in 2014 i'd say. I am up to 12 miles a week, 2 boot camps and one hour spinning.

Are marathons tough out, i personally feel i have good distance in my legs, but my speed is slow, so i guess a marathon would suit me. I can do 7 miles (11.5 K) on the flat in just under the hour, and 9k seriously uphill road in 45-47 mins.

Any advice to get the ball rolling. Thanks

Finally, taking up serious exercise is the best thing i have ever done!

As Mayo4sam has said you are bang for a Marathon this year never mind 2014. This time last year, i was where you are now. Had a few months running done and my times were decent, just ahead of yourself but it was clear that the miles where in the legs with a bit of encouragement.

Last spring I stepped up the variation in the runs - hill work, intervals and added a few miles to the runs, kept the frequency going. I still hadn't looked at doing a marathon. In the summer I started doing longer runs with a half marathon thrown in and it went well and decided I'd do Dublin. About 3 months out, i used one of Hal Hidgons training plans for the marathon and used that to hit the long runs.

Worked well and I done Dublin last October. You're well on the run to doing one this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 08, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: bamboo on January 08, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Poor warm up or going too fast at the start, theres a good link below to the BBC health page and it has a couple of theories. Been very lucky to not get them but I'd say stay off the fags and spirits while running :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4275830.stm

That's good running from zero fitness and the weight you were dealing with. All that stuff you have said is very achievable I'd say. Just keep her lit!!

If you feel you have nothing in you after 5K next night try 6K and just build it up from there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 08, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: bamboo on January 08, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Good man D, fair play you're well on the track to better times and longer runs. I'd push the length of the runs out a bit, push to 6km on regular basis, even if it means slowing down and not worrying about the time as much.

I'd also give yourself a goal and find a local 5km race at the end of January, you'll always nail your time in a race and take time off your training run if you approach it right.

Not sure on the stitches. One of lucky runners here told me to stretch your side when running if the stitch appears but I've not had the problem. I'm told its often something you eat ahead of the run but not much help.

You've a right bit done and could look at varying the runs to help the speed work if you looking to stay at the distance - hill runs, interval runs etc. but I'd build up the distance first.

No big deal for you quiting the beer or cider as you could drink none anyway!!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 08, 2013, 11:52:12 PM
Bamboo, like the lads said I'd look at pushing one of those runs a week out, slow the pace and add maybe 1k every week, or whatever u feel comfortable with, don't time it just concentrate on getting the distance, just a light jog is good but crank up the k's.

The other thing I'd suggest is intervals, so ur looking for 5min/k in the race, so maybe try 5-6mins at 5:30/5:45 pace, then 2/3 mins of walking or if ur able a light jog, repeat that maybe once, twice if ur able. Obviously warm up before. Do that once a week and try and build up to 12/15mins x 3, you'll be flying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 08, 2013, 11:53:19 PM
Oh and give up the f**king fags!
Nine years ago this week for me, by far the best decision I ever made
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 09, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Thanks for the replies and the messages lads, (apart from Bingo who's a knob!), will try and take it all on board.

Done a fairly slow and easy 5k on the 'mill today, legs were heavy to be honest, but will be back on the roads in the morning and will try and slow it down a bit and stretch it out to 6k min. When you guys speak of a proper warm up what exactly are you talking about? I do the basic simple stretches but that's about it.

There's actually a parkrun set up a mile up the road and i've registered along with 2 mates and we're hoping to get going regularly from Feb onwards. They're off on hols at the minute but i'll probably try one out this month, poss this Saturday if i feel up for it. There's an average of 160 go there weekly and the slowest times are around the 40 min mark so i'm fairly optimistic that i won't be last!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: bamboo on January 09, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Thanks for the replies and the messages lads, (apart from Bingo who's a knob!), will try and take it all on board.

Done a fairly slow and easy 5k on the 'mill today, legs were heavy to be honest, but will be back on the roads in the morning and will try and slow it down a bit and stretch it out to 6k min. When you guys speak of a proper warm up what exactly are you talking about? I do the basic simple stretches but that's about it.

There's actually a parkrun set up a mile up the road and i've registered along with 2 mates and we're hoping to get going regularly from Feb onwards. They're off on hols at the minute but i'll probably try one out this month, poss this Saturday if i feel up for it. There's an average of 160 go there weekly and the slowest times are around the 40 min mark so i'm fairly optimistic that i won't be last!

A basic warm up would be a gentle jog and stretch before you actually start your 5K, then you can set your watch and time it from there. The park run warm up is usually a 1 k run before you start, hard to do when you have an early start in this weather but fairly opens the lungs and heart rate is going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 10, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: bamboo on January 08, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Poor warm up or going too fast at the start, theres a good link below to the BBC health page and it has a couple of theories. Been very lucky to not get them but I'd say stay off the fags and spirits while running :P
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4275830.stm

That's good running from zero fitness and the weight you were dealing with. All that stuff you have said is very achievable I'd say. Just keep her lit!!

If you feel you have nothing in you after 5K next night try 6K and just build it up from there

Easier said than done. At least the man is sticking with it and its better to do a bit while still having a drink and a smoke than not doing anything at all. Gradual change is more likely to succeed.
The stitch is just lack of fitness and that will resolve itself with time and increased fitness.
If you Bamboo want too lose a few more pounds then long slower runs will serve you better. You re stitching because you re looking at times you are not able to do yet.  Forget about 5 K targets and that shite and just get to enjoy running. You ll beat yourself up otherwis and then end up leaving it there and end up drinking more scrumpy than ever. Do some lonnng slowww runs. Thats the way to burn fat and you ll get a better buzz from it too. Go for an hour and forget the distance and build from there. Put in some faster, shorter ones if you have to. But running slower for longer is what you need to be doing now. If you get that right then the 5, 10k and half marathon will happen. Can t rush it. And you can still have the odd pint and burn as well.
Also try to run in a group if you can. It s better fun and more likely to stick it longterm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 10, 2013, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers

I've broke 20mins once and came close on several other occasions.

When I was doing the 400m reps i was averaging round 1.30m - 1.35m for time. My recovery was 400m again, never walked, always light jog. I was told by someone more experienced to do it at a pace that will ensure the first run is the same as the last run and all in between are same, so consistancy if the key for each rep.

I' have Reps tonight but the group is using a different approach - 2mins on, 2mins off. I'll set my own target for the 2mins in that and try and hit it everytime.

I'd be fairly inexperienced and some others may know more but I'd think at those times you'd be close to sub 20m.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 10, 2013, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers
That would be on course for a sub 20 if you were able to rull out 12x400m in 90 seconds and then 45 seconds of a rest. Try to have the first and last interval at the same pace, even spread throughout the session. I'd mix a few 1KM interval sessions too if you can...Bit of a fartlek would be helpful too..1On/30seconds off....2Mins On/1 Off....3Mins On/2 Off(Killer of a session), bit of a change rather than doing all track work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2013, 09:34:58 AM
What I've done in the past and it's worked well is to work off 2 minutes.

400s should be race pace - for a 20 minute 5k bang on this would be 96 seconds. So you should do 96 for your 400(+/-1 second) and rest for 24 seconds then repeat this. Start at 8 or so and build up to about 16. You should be reasonably comfortable with these.

An alternative would be 3 x 1 mile with about 90 seconds rest in between at race pace. You'll get this tight in the last rep particularly.

Both the above should work well. 24 seconds maybe doesn't sound like much but you've got no breaks in your race... (6:24 or so would be your mile time)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 10:16:02 AM
I'm not doing all track just that was the session on Tuesday and its fresh in my mind, was doing 92/93 consistently for all 12 off 2:15, so close!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 13, 2013, 01:15:16 PM
Took you boys advice and set on Thursday for a run at a pace that was barely a light jog with the intention of seeing could i go for an hour and hopefully get min. 6k in. Ended up doing 10k in 1hr 07mins which i was more than happy with so thanks for that. Felt as though i could've kept going but decided not to be a hero just yet!

Took part in the parkrun yesterday. Rained overnight in London so course was very muddy and slippery underfoot, lots of people fell and there was a lot of jostling and people cutting you up as they tried to avoid puddles,mud etc. Ground was really heavy and i got round in 29mins flat which wasn't great but at least it's a starting point.

333 people took part, an exact split of 2:1 in favour of males. I finished in pos.219. I'm pretty sure the numbers will dwindle as the weeks go by so should be a more enjoyable run. Quite a few courses round the area so will try out a few different ones over the next few months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Did six miles earlier today. Had my GPS watch on so was checking pace. 45 mins flat. Was chuffed and noticed my pace was quicker a mile in. Thats me getting ready for the Larne half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2013, 01:14:22 PM
I would use garmin hrm. If you do a lot of gymwork check the equipment and you should be able to get the heart rate monitor with no watch. Depends on frequencies...

As far as polar watches go i don't know much about them. I was considering a garmin 610 but on reading reviews they seem to use cheap metal that brings a lot of peoples wrists out. In a rash. :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Karl Kennedy on January 19, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
Basically I am after a polar HRM with GPS that records my distance covered, HR while running.

I also want to be able to use it in gym or even during circuits to be aware of how hard I am working by looking at my HR.

I have had a basic Polar watch before so it's time to upgrade.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
The Garmin is a great job, I use the HRM for turbo training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 11:10:17 AM
Never used anything other than a Garmin and have had no bother including the battery, easy to charge overnight.

Getting a few good runs in this weather, building up again for the marathon in April. Weather not great for it, it that the roads are a no-no but managing on the track and in the local forest park.

Actually ran yesterday morning with a blind man (95% - has lost his vision over the years, he payed football in his day) vision, I ran as his guide, was first time doing it and we had a great run, just over 5 miles round a loop route in the local park. His memory is top class and he was familiar with part of the run and was able to adjust before i called it. A very strong runner who ran Dublin marathon on 3.19 this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 21, 2013, 12:46:52 PM
I slogged around the Waterworks Parkrun on Saturday. Was anyone else from here, there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 21, 2013, 01:07:08 PM
Not me this time - made the decision on Fri night that I wasn't getting up for it when I saw the snow.
Bro in law did it, said he couldn't really get going but he did a pretty decent time (for him).
I did, however, beat my parkrun PB on the running machine in the gym  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
Fair weather runner me self!!

Like Rois I also went to the gym and stayed away from the snowy paths of the Waterworks, will be giving them a pounding in Feb though.

Was there a good crowd braving the weather?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
I did the queens one on saturday. There's a lot of corners in it so the snow slows you down a bit.

70 odd did the waterworks so not bad considering. 30 odd did queens.

Friday was horrendous for running but it has been grand since then. Just back from a run on the towpath and it's perfectly fine to run on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 21, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
I was wondering about footwear and running in the snow - I bought a pair of nice Salomon shoes in the summer for hiking that were described as a cross between a trail running shoe and an approach shoe.  Would they be the right things to wear if there was snow on the ground?  The FB page mentioned trail shoes on Fri  night so I was half tempted to give them a go but didn't want to look like a numpty who was running in hiking shoes.  They are pretty light so thought they might be OK - any thoughts? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
A lot of people there would probably be wearing those kind of shoes anyway Rois so I wouldn't say you've anything to worry about.

They're the kind of shoes people would tend to wear running up mountains etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 21, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
Doing the Malahide Parkrun on Saturday, first shot at breaking 20, have given myself until mid-march to do it but would like to get it out of the way early! Feel like I should be there or there abouts, hopefully there's no snow, just nice and crisp
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 22, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 22, 2013, 10:27:48 PM
Good running ML, keep her lit.

I've done 4 x 10k's over the last few weeks, 1:07:27, 1:06:03, 1:05:22 and todays was 1hr and 36 secs so i'm almost at the 1hr mark. Signed up for a 10k organised run/race with a few mates in early march so hoping to shave a few mins of the time before that comes around.

Done my 2nd 5k parkrun in the snow covered grounds of Wimbledon common on Sat and took 90 secs of my previous week, done it in 27m:29s, pos 147/213. Despite the snow, it was a better surface to run on than the previous weeks mud.

Still getting a stitch on a regular basis, more so in the 5k's than the 10k's. Probably as i'm pushing myself that bit harder. ran a slow 1k and did plenty of stretching before the 5k but still got it, between the 2k and 3k mark, then it disappeared. Annoying as it definatly slows me down and is costing me time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 22, 2013, 10:54:40 PM
Keep her lit too bambo.

A stitch could be down to fitness, but I always found it was down to the fact that I hadnt fasted for long enough. Do you still get a stich if you run first thing in the morning before breakfast?

Of course everyone is different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 22, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Cheers Orior,

Ran the first parkrun with no breakfast and ran the 2nd one with small breakfast 90mins before so can't blame either fasting or feasting!

Got no stich nor did i feel like i needed a drink during my 1st few 10ks as i was going at a slighter slower pace i guess but had a stitch and needed a sip during the run today. When i say a sip i literally mean a sip, barely a mouthful.

Can't remember having any issues when i started out running back in the summer so i'm assuming it's down to the fact that i'm doing  a lot more now and pushing myself that bit harder. Who knows??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 24, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 22, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........

So i want back to the runner store again yesterday, was met with a very sceptical "running expert", no way would we have given you the wrong runners blah, blah...... got the manager involved and it turned out the my running gait was assessed first time around, by  girl who works on Saturday and was not qualified to give any advice, they did another assessment in-store yesterday and it turned out i do not require any correction what so ever, my gain is spot on  >:(............ then everyone was all apologies, this never happened before etc.,
Long and short of it, the high arch support in the shoe, kept slightly twisting my ankle out as i ran and has resulted in a  tear of a muscle along the outside of my shin........... more physio required and a long lay-off.................am raging............ the manager told me to take it up with customer service at HQ and demand a full refund on physio costs etc...............

Damn right they will be hearing from me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 24, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
Thats very disappointing An Gaeilgoir, no way should she have been giving advice.

I got great service in elverys when i went in. I was having problems at the time, more so after running that during it. She identified the problem and a pair of shoes to held the problem, haven't had the same issue since, great support in the shoes I use and Gel support.

I'd feel the difference when I run in my trail runners, a far flater shoe with no gel support.

Fair play Bamboo, keep her lit and you'll be flying in the races in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 24, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 22, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........

So i want back to the runner store again yesterday, was met with a very sceptical "running expert", no way would we have given you the wrong runners blah, blah...... got the manager involved and it turned out the my running gait was assessed first time around, by  girl who works on Saturday and was not qualified to give any advice, they did another assessment in-store yesterday and it turned out i do not require any correction what so ever, my gain is spot on  >:(............ then everyone was all apologies, this never happened before etc.,
Long and short of it, the high arch support in the shoe, kept slightly twisting my ankle out as i ran and has resulted in a  tear of a muscle along the outside of my shin........... more physio required and a long lay-off.................am raging............ the manager told me to take it up with customer service at HQ and demand a full refund on physio costs etc...............

Damn right they will be hearing from me!

That's serious craic, you'd be raging (well you are :o). I'm sceptical of those gait machines anyway and wouldn't bother with them I know my own body and whta's good and what's not, in terms of comfort and if there is something bothering me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
Who's for doing the Waterworks tomorrow? Weather seems good, might give it a blast tomorrow, had calf strain last week but managed to run yesterday so hopefully be grand
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 01, 2013, 08:23:40 PM
Not me - golfing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?

Aye did it and forgot to time my self at the start, though I hit it after a minute I think. think I've beat my PB. was some crowd at it, thought it ws going to be dodgy with ice but fair play to the organisers who must have been out with salt on the path.

Edit: Just seen my time, knocked 53 seconds off my last timed event!!! Well chuffed only a minute and few seconds to go for my under 20 minute mark, though looking how I run today I'm wondering how I'll get it!!

Calf was tight on the last pond run but don't think it made a difference
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2013, 10:18:10 PM
Brilliant! 53 secs?

I had a rubbish time. Position 95. Need to start changing something to start getting under 25 mins again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2013, 12:36:30 AM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2013, 10:18:10 PM
Brilliant! 53 secs?

I had a rubbish time. Position 95. Need to start changing something to start getting under 25 mins again.

Aye 53 seconds, will see how things go, you get good days and bad days Rois so never worry, i'm under pressure now FFS.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 04, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
Big crowd at the Malahide Parkrun this Saturday, up to 300 from 200 the previous week.
Took Thursday off this week and manahed to move from 20:26 to 19:39, delighted to have broken the 20 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 04, 2013, 08:34:37 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 04, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
Big crowd at the Malahide Parkrun this Saturday, up to 300 from 200 the previous week.
Took Thursday off this week and manahed to move from 20:26 to 19:39, delighted to have broken the 20 mins
Congrats. Great running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Billys Boots on February 04, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?

Same here Rois - had a cold over Xmas and can't get my breathing back right since.  Was easily doing 8k in 35 mins and looking to move up to 10k - now am struggling with the 8k. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Over 1,000 runners took part in Irish parkruns this morn - first time over the 1k. 8 different locations.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
Consistently 300+ at malahide. Must be hard to manage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on February 18, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
Did my first half Marathon yesterday, 1 h 54 mins. The legs are quare sore today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 18, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on February 18, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
Did my first half Marathon yesterday, 1 h 54 mins. The legs are quare sore today.

Lucky for you that you have a quare handy job so  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 25, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
Got the first 20 mile run of year in on Saturday, went well and felt fairly ok after it, held a good pace throughout it and took in some good hills as well. Drove home from finishing point and legs didn't feel so good when i got out of car  ;D Had a good soak in the bath and recovered well. Great to get it done and hopefully get another one in next weekend. Connemara marathon on 7th April.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 25, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Forget about running fast Muppet. The view from the back of the field is the best...

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 26, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
This is hilarious...she hasn't a clue who he is? "Have you run before? This isn't your first time?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XjPxsiinop8#!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 26, 2013, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 26, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
This is hilarious...she hasn't a clue who he is? "Have you run before? This isn't your first time?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XjPxsiinop8#!

Seen this doing the rounds on twitter earlier but they've taken it down now. The BBC won't be impressed that the Golden boy is so unknown over the pond.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 01, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
O'Lionaird has a stormer of a run there in the heats of 3000m European indoors, looked easy. Great to see him back flying after what happened in London.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 03, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
Been doing training runs almost daily and doing various weekly parkruns in London since the turn of the year(missed last weekend) and signed up for a 10k in Brockwell Pk this morning, it's near Brixton for those familiar with the area.

Decided to do the parkrun there yesterday to get a feel for the place and made a nice discovery: it's hilly as f*ck!!

Ran the 5k in a PB so far of 24:25 and finished the 10k this morning in 51:50 so more than happy with both. 6 of us done the 10k and i finished 2nd so very pleased with my weekends work. One mate who's a regular runner reckons it's the toughest 10k he's done so that gives me hope for the future.

Gonna keep up with the parkruns on top of regular training runs and have signed up for another 10k on Easter Sunday in Richmond Park. There's rumours that the runners will get Easter eggs :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on March 03, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Can anyone recommend a physio in the north that specialises in running injuries?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on March 03, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
My missus is hooked on running last couple of months. I've gone out a lot with her but I'm couple of stone overweight and bit unfit. We do the 5k In under 30 minutes bout 3/5 times a week. Last week I couldn't run more than 2k. Shin splints I think. I use old runners they are not great and I think they maybe what is causing the problem other than being unfit and overweight

Tomorrow I am getting some new runners and looking for some advise. Any Advise would be great. Haven't run in a week and hoping tomorrow night my legs might hold up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on March 04, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Looking to help out a few young lads 13-17 with programmes for shorter track stuff. Rather than make it up as I go along I hope to give them something that will bring them on for competition in May. I m talking from 100 to 800.

Anybody know where I can get stuff. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on March 05, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
Quote from: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?

I would have thought so... I would even think if you hadn't done anything and just started training now you could go for that itinerary.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 05, 2013, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 05, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
Quote from: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?

I would have thought so... I would even think if you hadn't done anything and just started training now you could go for that itinerary.
I'd ditch the 16 mile road race, should be tapering with a week to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
Was just about to ask that Ballinaman.

Seriously thinking of giving it a shot for charity as i have the bug at the minute and i'm afraid if i don't do it now, it may never happen again.

Plus it will keep me focussed throughout the summer drinking season.

Would the 16miler really affect me that much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
It would. You would want to be at the top of your game for a marathon. You shouldn't be doing anything like that a week before one.

If you were to do it you shouldn't be racing it that's for sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 05, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??

Well Bamboo, you got very ambitous very quickly  ;D  ;) Fair play. I'm doing my second one in a few weeks time.

For my first one in Dublin last year, I did very little the last two weeks, don't think i went over 10 miles in any one run and it was all about resting the legs and getting them ready for whats ahead. The weekend before I did very little.

One of the lads you'd know, GM ex-county keeper, did Amsterdam and then did Dublin and had a better time in Dublin. He'd have a few marathons under his belt, so a few big runs can be done before the marathon.

He said Amsterdam is a good marathon with lots doing it but it takes you out of the city and through rural and industrial areas and back in the same way to finish in a sports stadium. Not the big city buzz and crowd support you get in the other marathons including Dublin which is the following week from Amsterdam.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 05, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??
I'd still think about ditching the 16 mile run the week before, especially prior to your first marathon. You are going to need everything you have in the tank for it. It could destroy you over the last 6 miles in the marathon so best to taper down the week before, something like 7,6,5,4,3,0,0 is what I did before Dublin last year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 06:47:27 PM
Thanks lads, justified my reasons for posting with all those responses.

So if i was to swap Amsterdam for Dublin i'd be giving myself a better chance of enjoying it is what i'm gathering. I'm reluctant to drop the 16miler as i feel i can get a few people over here on board for that at least. That would give me 2 weeks plus to recover and taper down as recommended. can i get the boards approval for this :) ?

I chose Amsterdam originally as i'd never been there before but in fairness Dublin is a far better option, gives more family and friends a chance to come along and also would have a bigger public crowd to push me along.

Bingo, i haven't been this fit since i was banging in the goals for the Grattans "C" team in St.Marys park on a Sunday morning! I'm addicted at the minute and i want to do this while i still have it in me. I originally started cos i wanted to get in shape for the brothers wedding in a few weeks but never thought i'd enjoy it this much or get in shape so quickly. I'm down to 12st12lb at last weigh in from 17st last Nov!!

I knew that GM was a bit of a runner alright, i wouldn't be anywhere near his standard yet. I'm probably a better goalie though i reckon.

Thanks again lads, be prepared for me to annoy ye a lot more over the coming months for advice etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 06, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
Well Bamboo,

Yeah, the 2 week break between 16miler and Dublin would be more realistic but be important not to "race" the 16miler ie forget about time and do it below your race pace or at a pace that is easy on the system. You'd have my vote on that basis.

The crowd in Dublin was brillant last year, very supportive round the whole course and the last few miles will be easier with a few fimilar shouts from the crowd and faces to look out for. I'll even arrange a Blayney Rockets running vest for you  ;)

Banging in goals in St Marys park for the Grattans on Sunday morning?? You must have had a feed of drink in the Spinner the night before and slept out in the dugouts and dreamt that!

Its very addictive alright and doesn't be long paying off. I started the same way and surpirsed myself how well I stayed at it and how far I've gone since. Far from marathons we targetted in the spinner years back!

Good luck with it anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 06, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Thanks B.

Looking forward i'll probably try and get my last big "long run" in between the half and the 16miler. Am i right in thinking that 20miles was your longest pre-marathon? Is this the guideline?

Then the 16 miler will be part of the tapering down process.

I'm coasting through 10k training runs at the minute so will start upping that to 15-20 within the next 6 weeks. Mixing it all up with some 5k interval runs (400m quick, 150 slow) down the local park and some core classes and spin/circuit training down the gym. Doing parkrun every saturday morning and will aim to do a timed 10k every 3 weeks minimum.

Gonna stick to this plan until end of April and then start properly into the longer runs. Is ther one particular training guide you would swear by or do i simply pick one out?

Dublin booked! No turning back now. Will keep it to myself for now but expect fb updates when things start in earnest. You may need to locate the block/unfriend button when that starts!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
Well bamboo, yeah 20 was as far as I went although I miss judged a route one day and done 21. Dublin is a good marathon, great support round the course I felt last year. Likely will be a good load of us doing it, was 20 odd last year, be 30 this year at current rate.

You fairly moving well, if you enjoying it, that's more than half the battle.

Pushed out a very tough 20 this morning taking in a huge hill that climbs for 4 miles. Legs in bits and knee like a football but its the tank! Last weekends drink in Carrick on Shannon a distant memory!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 09, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Cheers, i'll aim for a coulpe of 20's then when i'm up and at it. Do you have a training plan? Will any do me? Minimum requirement is sub 4hrs but obviously i'd like to do as quick as is possible. 7 months of training to come yet.

Good work this morning, you must dream about Mullyash. i can only dream about 20 milers at the minute but i'm convinced that i'll get there eventually.

Just back from parkrun, possibly the worst preparation for a run i've ever had. Fell out of bed at 8:20 after an hours kip, was meant to have picked up 3 people by that time!! Only had time for a banana and a fag beforehand, could have done with a toilet visit but literally walked in as the race was starting.

Decided to stick with my mate who's far more experienced then me at 5k's instead of bombing off on my own and blowing up near the end. Was shoulder to shoulder for 4k and then i edged on and left him for dead. Didn't realise that he'd pulled up with a bad calf!!

Passed quite a few on the last k  which was a good boost but still ended up a few seconds slower than last week. Not a happy bunny.

10k timed run in Crystal Palace in the morning, start and finish in the stadium which i might bowl down to but i'm working again tonight so will only grab an hours sleep at best.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Armaghgeddon on March 10, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
I am trying to get involved with gaelic or 5 a side soccer teams to get some running done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2013, 09:54:21 AM
When you're aiming to get fit the best way to go about getting there is to run slowly. When I say slowly I mean slowly for yourself - you shouldn't be running breathless. If you do this 3 or so times a week for a few weeks your slow pace will increase dramatically. Best way to think of it is if you're timing it don't look at your watch during the run - just run comfortably - then check it at the end of your run. Compare for a few weeks and you'll see an increase. Getting fit is much quicker if you're working at "aerobic" levels and you keep it controlled and slow. Worrying about times etc. will a) make you feel worse b) not get you fit as quickly...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 11, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: bamboo on March 09, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Cheers, i'll aim for a coulpe of 20's then when i'm up and at it. Do you have a training plan? Will any do me? Minimum requirement is sub 4hrs but obviously i'd like to do as quick as is possible. 7 months of training to come yet.

Good work this morning, you must dream about Mullyash. i can only dream about 20 milers at the minute but i'm convinced that i'll get there eventually.

Just back from parkrun, possibly the worst preparation for a run i've ever had. Fell out of bed at 8:20 after an hours kip, was meant to have picked up 3 people by that time!! Only had time for a banana and a fag beforehand, could have done with a toilet visit but literally walked in as the race was starting.

Decided to stick with my mate who's far more experienced then me at 5k's instead of bombing off on my own and blowing up near the end. Was shoulder to shoulder for 4k and then i edged on and left him for dead. Didn't realise that he'd pulled up with a bad calf!!

Passed quite a few on the last k  which was a good boost but still ended up a few seconds slower than last week. Not a happy bunny.

10k timed run in Crystal Palace in the morning, start and finish in the stadium which i might bowl down to but i'm working again tonight so will only grab an hours sleep at best.

I followed a training plan as best I could for first one - google Hal Hidgon, he has various plans at different levels, i used one of his for Dublin last year. I'd not even panic too much about spreading it out over the 7 months, keep doing what you doing and then work from marathon time back to start of training plan and time it that way.

Mullyash was a killer on Saturday, its a toughie but hopefully it will stand to me for connemara. Knee still not right since.

Biggest thing I found for the 5kms and 10kms is pacing it right at the start, too fast always catches people later. Nothing like picking people off and passing people, you find it great for the spirit and the pace always surpises you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 11, 2013, 03:29:50 PM
Cheers B, i'll look him up and print something off closer to the time.

Done the 10k yest, was aiming to keep it at 5min/k throughout and push on at the end but let it slip towards 5-7 and couldn't get it back. Finished on 50:44 which i'm not devastated with. Last 400m was in the stadium on the proper running track which was a great boost on the legs. Passed a few heading for home but was passed by others too. Really enjoyed it though which is the main thing.

Next 10k timed run is 31st March but there's an 8.2 miler down the road on the 24th which i'll attempt. That should help towrds the 10k run. 1hr 05 should be doable so i'll get a few longer runs in between now and then.

I agree with Tommygunn below. Just run for fun, forget looking at the watch on training runs, use it purely for distance. I do a timed run at the weekend but during the week its just a bit of fun running and chatting with mates.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 11, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
Anyone following Kevin Kilbane's progress on twitter, going for the London Marathon. Tipping along nicely, should be well under 3.30.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 11, 2013, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 11, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
Anyone following Kevin Kilbane's progress on twitter, going for the London Marathon.

Even after all that he won't get a decent cross in!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Anyone doing the Larne half marathon in 11 days?? I'm doing it but havent done much training for it. Plenty short distance stuff though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 12, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
Titanic Quarter 10k in Belfast is nxt up for me - as flat a run as you can imagine. 22 April or something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!
nice one, you're going well so, 10k will set you up nicely, sub 1.20 is a tough nut to crack but well doable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 12, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!

Will you be wearing club or county colours? Or alternatively, a proper running vest?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 12, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!

Will you be wearing club or county colours? Or alternatively, a proper running vest?


Almost county colours in the form of a running club vest so yes kind of and yes...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2013, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 12, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!

Will you be wearing club or county colours? Or alternatively, a proper running vest?


Almost county colours in the form of a running club vest so yes kind of and yes...

Went out and did my longest run this morning tommy, managed 9 miles in 1h.10mins. Could keep that pace for next week but doubt very much there is anything extra pace wise, so will be happy with around the 1.40 mark next week. What's your prep for the week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
I'm racing on Sunday MR in a 10k in downpatrick and from there on it'll be a light enough week with 3 or 4 runs. One will incorporate about 15 minutes at race pace but easy miles that aside.

I've been doing at least 13 miles once a week since early February so hopefully the distance is in the legs.

1:40 over a half would be a good time. Not sure what I'll get. Had a bad experience at Larne previously where the wheels firmly came off so hoping not to repeat that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2013, 05:32:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
I'm racing on Sunday MR in a 10k in downpatrick and from there on it'll be a light enough week with 3 or 4 runs. One will incorporate about 15 minutes at race pace but easy miles that aside.

I've been doing at least 13 miles once a week since early February so hopefully the distance is in the legs.

1:40 over a half would be a good time. Not sure what I'll get. Had a bad experience at Larne previously where the wheels firmly came off so hoping not to repeat that!

Not fussed on a running club, would only be interested if I were serious, but it defo helps I'd say.

Legs a bit sore under the calf afterwards but grand now, will do a couple twenty minutes run during week and lash her out on Saturday. Using the forerunner has definitely helped with keeping a pace started off around 7.20 kept it there for 4/5 miles didn't get above 8.00 for any sustained time the rest of the way. Would give it a good sprint (faster jog) near the end maybe last half mile, if I have anything left!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on March 16, 2013, 10:08:35 AM
Serious question lads. But do any of ya feel the need to pee as so as ya start running. Happens me everytime, even if i have just went. Could be the cold weather. Its annoying"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 16, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on March 16, 2013, 10:08:35 AM
Serious question lads. But do any of ya feel the need to pee as so as ya start running. Happens me everytime, even if i have just went. Could be the cold weather. Its annoying"

Nerves, it could be worse, could be the other end.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 16, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
Powerful morning that, was on the road at 8 and done 13.5miles with some cracking hills in the route that where tore into. 3 weeks to go.
Title: Jimmys 10k
Post by: No1 on March 17, 2013, 10:06:14 PM
Well Tommy, how'd you go today? Well organised run with a great turn out. PB for myself so the red wine is going down well now!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2013, 03:50:43 PM
Tough wee race that no1. Didn't go quite as well as i'd hoped but finished top 30 so can't be too unhappy.

East down are a good wee club for the organising. 645 is big numbers and quite a few "good 'uns" too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2013, 04:11:32 PM
Legs are sore today, wee session at the gym tonight and a good soaking in the hot tub me thinks. No more booze till saturday night!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Nearly 1200 final pre entry list for Saturdays race in Larne they think it should hit nearly 1300 for the proper race!! Bit nervous now looking at it, noticed times as low as 1.09 FFS hoping to go 1.40 but we'll see.

Weather to be shite what would be the best possible running gear for the day if it's rainy and cold? I'm not wearing a Duffle coat ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 20, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
BF just back from running NY half marathon, did 1.40 and he was a bit disappointed.  He fell away badly in the last mile and a half - in my extreme wisdom on such matters (hah) I put it down to lack of energy as he only had a banana and a bagel at 6am before the race at 7.30am and didn't take any of the chocolate bars on offer around 10 miles to boost energy.  So be warned.

Best of luck MR2!   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 20, 2013, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Nearly 1200 final pre entry list for Saturdays race in Larne they think it should hit nearly 1300 for the proper race!! Bit nervous now looking at it, noticed times as low as 1.09 FFS hoping to go 1.40 but we'll see.

Weather to be shite what would be the best possible running gear for the day if it's rainy and cold? I'm not wearing a Duffle coat ;)

I'd wear as little as possible - long sleeved compression top at most and running vest over it, if the skins covered I would be happy enough. More important to keep warm and dry before hand - bin liner or disposal boiler suit. If you aiming for 1.40, you'll be moving enough to keep warm.

If their is a cold wind maybe put on a very light and breathable wind breaker that will keep the wind chill away during the race.

Best of luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 20, 2013, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on March 16, 2013, 10:08:35 AM
Serious question lads. But do any of ya feel the need to pee as so as ya start running. Happens me everytime, even if i have just went. Could be the cold weather. Its annoying"

I'm no doctor, but there could be other reasons besides nerves or being cold.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2013, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Nearly 1200 final pre entry list for Saturdays race in Larne they think it should hit nearly 1300 for the proper race!! Bit nervous now looking at it, noticed times as low as 1.09 FFS hoping to go 1.40 but we'll see.

Weather to be shite what would be the best possible running gear for the day if it's rainy and cold? I'm not wearing a Duffle coat ;)

Have you any base layer type things?? I plan to wear a short sleeved base layer under a vest and a hat if raining. Gloves if it's as cold as it's been. Hat only if raining...

There will be a lot of wind out that coast road I suspect.

Lot of people doing Larne. Start line will be fun.

I know a few with toilet issues when running but usually it's not peeing and they just take immodium... I think it's common bridgegael so google it...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
If this weather gets as bad as it says, will there be a danger of the race (Larne Half Marathon) being cancelled?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
At present they're not predicting any snow to ly so cancellation doesn't look likely however they're monitoring it.

The reckoning it doesn't ly on the coast road so it should be ok. Most of the course is on that road.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
I work in Larne so I know the snow wouldn't be on the roads as much as other places but the head wind coming in on way back with the cold will be deadly!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Muppet, keep her lit, I am just back running after a long lay off (serious injury, my leg had a very bad case of lazy arsed-itis!).  You and I can compare our absolute shitedness in terms of metres coverd and days taken!!!  BTW, you have an absolute unfair physical advantage over me, I am a fat bastard!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: armaghniac on March 21, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
My nose likes running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 21, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Lads,

Are any of ye doing or have done the Connamarathon, got an e-mail today regarding picking up race number etc., the race numbers can only be picked up in Galway the day before, buses to and from the start/finish from Galway and best of all any spectator that wants to go has to pay a tenner (Adult) and 8 euros (child) to access the course. All this on top of a 70 euro admission fee......................... A bit much i think...............
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
I work in Larne so I know the snow wouldn't be on the roads as much as other places but the head wind coming in on way back with the cold will be deadly!!

There are 40 mile an hour winds predicted along the coast...

I am not feeling the love for doing this race at all... I am looking a time and won't be getting one this weekend!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 21, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 21, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Lads,

Are any of ye doing or have done the Connamarathon, got an e-mail today regarding picking up race number etc., the race numbers can only be picked up in Galway the day before, buses to and from the start/finish from Galway and best of all any spectator that wants to go has to pay a tenner (Adult) and 8 euros (child) to access the course. All this on top of a 70 euro admission fee......................... A bit much i think...............

I'm doing it and got the same email. I'd have thought you knew all this before signing up? It be standard enough for marathons to have registration the day before, is it not. I also think there is an option to collect it in Cliftden the day before.

Looking forward to it myself. Just over 2 weeks to go, we're staying over in Galway, so will be sampling a few creamy pints afterwards in Galway to help with rehydration  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theticklemister on March 21, 2013, 09:32:48 PM
Any endurance running ideas for early season training for a gaa team ; trying as many as possible not to bore the boys out and I dislike the usual running around the pitch as it is boring. Training will be down in a poorly lit grass area.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
I work in Larne so I know the snow wouldn't be on the roads as much as other places but the head wind coming in on way back with the cold will be deadly!!

There are 40 mile an hour winds predicted along the coast...

I am not feeling the love for doing this race at all... I am looking a time and won't be getting one this weekend!

Was joking about the Duffle coat, but on second thoughts............
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleafgael on March 22, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
I work in Larne so I know the snow wouldn't be on the roads as much as other places but the head wind coming in on way back with the cold will be deadly!!

There are 40 mile an hour winds predicted along the coast...

I am not feeling the love for doing this race at all... I am looking a time and won't be getting one this weekend!

Omagh Half on next Saturday if the weather doesn't pick up tommy. Good course for a fast time, 2000 expected on the day and it will be well organised.

http://www.omaghharriers.com/omagh-half-marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on March 22, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
I work in Larne so I know the snow wouldn't be on the roads as much as other places but the head wind coming in on way back with the cold will be deadly!!

There are 40 mile an hour winds predicted along the coast...

I am not feeling the love for doing this race at all... I am looking a time and won't be getting one this weekend!

Omagh Half on next Saturday if the weather doesn't pick up tommy. Good course for a fast time, 2000 expected on the day and it will be well organised.

http://www.omaghharriers.com/omagh-half-marathon

Weather is fooking crap, I am in two minds about Saturdays race, that's a fierce winday sleety day, and for most parts on this race you are running on the footpath and cars (in these conditions) driving towards you doesn't fill me with confidence
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 02:01:39 PM
Latest update :

Larne Half Marathon 2013

Saturday 23rd March


UPDATE (Friday 22nd 1.00pm)

The Larne Half Marathon is currently going ahead as planned on Saturday - the course remains clear of snow. The weather situation continues to be monitored and further updates will be posted this evening
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2013, 02:31:15 PM
I've talked myself out of it MR. There's a 5k on wednesday I'm going to race instead and I'll do another half later in the year. I'm away so can't make Omagh.

I think the race will be on but Belfast weather is miserable. It's been blizzards all day long and I'll be lucky to get the car out in the morning at this rate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
Mental weather. might look at the Omagh one. Disappointed if truth be told, feel for the organisers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2013, 03:06:22 PM
Ai , I'd be disappointed to as I've targeted this from the start of the year. Unfortunately I can't make the Omagh one.

Organisational nightmare but they're doing all they can to keep it on to be fair to them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2013, 03:06:22 PM
Ai , I'd be disappointed to as I've targeted this from the start of the year. Unfortunately I can't make the Omagh one.

Organisational nightmare but they're doing all they can to keep it on to be fair to them.

Yeah they are, fair amount of runners though coming from all over to run in it and they may not make it due to weather!!

Ah well, will hit gym later and tomorrow morning to make up for it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 22, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Muppet, keep her lit, I am just back running after a long lay off (serious injury, my leg had a very bad case of lazy arsed-itis!).  You and I can compare our absolute shitedness in terms of metres coverd and days taken!!!  BTW, you have an absolute unfair physical advantage over me, I am a fat b**tard!

Just back from Monsoon training an hour ago.

Went all the way back to the start of C25K. I am determined to finish this time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 22, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
Larne half marathon postponed tomorrow to a later date, so ye lads will get another day at it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 22, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
Larne half marathon postponed tomorrow to a later date, so ye lads will get another day at it.

Aye noticed that, was inevitable with the amount of snow/sleet still coming down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Abble on March 25, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
I've a bit of a runners injury, not that i class myself as a runner before we start.

its a pain right on the kneecap and it was diagnosed 20 years or so ago as maltracking kneecap. i've only recently taken up running again but when i try and up the distance to 5 miles + runs , the pain comes into my kneecap. i think its classed as runners knee as well.

before i speak with a physio, has anyone here any recommendations or advice on how i can help it ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 25, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: aontroim abu on March 25, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Starting training again,need to lose weight but have a bit of a back problem so weights are out. Muppet any chance you could post a link to your training programme just to see if I would be up to it please?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 25, 2013, 02:33:13 PM
Abble, I've had a bit of a similar injury on my right knee, ws given a number of stretches to do and exercises to strenghten it and haven't had the same problems but you would need to get it looked at and stretches demostrated to be of benefit. If you know a physio, he'll show you quick enough or Youtube will be your friend. Have a similar problem on my other knee at present but am using a foam roller now and its helping that one.

Did my last "big run" before connemara yesterday, 15 miles in very windy and cold conditions. It absolutely floored me, kept at a decent pace throughout but have a bit of a cold as well and it didn't help with recovery. 2 weeks now till the race, will be doing very little miles between now and then, at most a 8 miler next weekend. Have the bonus of heading to Kilkenny for the weekend with the family for 3 days over the Easter weekend, so have the luxury of some downtime and a nice pool to relax in*

* - with two kids in tow though this is very unlikely  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 25, 2013, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 25, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Starting training again,need to lose weight but have a bit of a back problem so weights are out. Muppet any chance you could post a link to your training programme just to see if I would be up to it please?

It is a free App on iPhone called C25K (Couch to 5K). There are loads of similar Apps and sites.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 25, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Muppet I take it you can use this app as a guide and don't have to have the IPhone with you when you are jogging, as I find it a pain running with something that bulky.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 25, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 25, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Muppet I take it you can use this app as a guide and don't have to have the IPhone with you when you are jogging, as I find it a pain running with something that bulky.

I hate running because it's so bulky but manage to use a jock strap, less hassle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BartSimpson on March 25, 2013, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 25, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 25, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Muppet I take it you can use this app as a guide and don't have to have the IPhone with you when you are jogging, as I find it a pain running with something that bulky.
If u consider theiphone bulky i hate to think wat u tink of my gut! LOL
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 26, 2013, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 25, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 25, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Just a comment for the more, shall we say, well insulated of us. This is my 2nd attempt at a 8-9 weeks running programme. I am only into week 2 and again the weight has started to fall off quickly. Even if, like me, running without a ball is not your idea of productive time, if you want to lose 5 - 10 kilos in just over a month while maintaining your beer and chip consumption where it is, this isn't a bad way of doing it.

Muppet I take it you can use this app as a guide and don't have to have the IPhone with you when you are jogging, as I find it a pain running with something that bulky.

If you are a genuine candidate for C25K, the phone isn't the bulkiest problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 27, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
Is that you on the left Muppet? :P

http://youtu.be/pcStG1GGBQg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 27, 2013, 06:19:19 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on March 27, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
Is that you on the left Muppet? :P

http://youtu.be/pcStG1GGBQg

I didn't get through to the final!

I blame Joe Brolly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 27, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
Anyone ever suffer the effects of over-training? i am suffering the past two weeks, sore legs, lack of energy and slow times...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
Ease your training load back. You can do the same miles but at lower effort levels would be my recommendation.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on March 27, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
While not strictly a running question, I picked up an injury about six months back while out for a run that was the start of a weight loss programme. This run would have been the first proper exercise I'd done in years with the exception of the odd game of 5 a side. After about a mile and half, I started getting this dull ache in the inner arch of my left foot. After a while it got so bad I had to hobble home and i could barely walk for days after it.

Over the next few months I cleaned up my diet and started going to circuit training three times a week. The pain returns during any exercise that bends the foot, but I can usually run it off after the first circuit or two. However, the next time I go back to a class, it starts up all over again until I run it off. I've recently been given a training programme that calls for interval sprints on the rowing machine - the pain flares up again on the forward crunch, but again after a while appears to subside. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2013, 10:19:58 PM
Ballinaman is a physio so much wiser to these things... Have you ever heard of plantar fasciitis?

That is the most common foot injury in runners from what i understand. Causes can be bad trainers or may be biomechanics or the like too. You could maybe check. If you get a tennis ball or even a can of coke and roll your problematic foot across it , several times, then if you find a point of pain that's what it is.  It seems to work by having a "trigger point" under the foot. It's not that hard to get rid of.

Failing that you could be having problems with fallen foot arch or something like that but i wouldn't know that much on the subject.

If you're not a hypocondriac check out google but if you are steer clear!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 28, 2013, 03:05:54 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 27, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
Anyone ever suffer the effects of over-training? i am suffering the past two weeks, sore legs, lack of energy and slow times...

I had this as well. Someone told me to take a B12 vitamin every day and a protein shake. It really helped.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 28, 2013, 09:39:44 AM
Hey gallsman,
Good advice from tommygunn there for a start.

Sounds like a slight biomechanical issue in your foot. May need a little correction to help the foot function correctly, either by an off the shelf insole or a custom one. A good physio will be able to assess which you need. A lot of arch pain is caused by tightening of the calf muscles so best get a foam roller on them for a start anyways. Give us a PM if you want any advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Broke 17 for a 5k last night BM. Had been training for a half but it was off due to the weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 28, 2013, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Broke 17 for a 5k last night BM. Had been training for a half but it was off due to the weather.
Boom. Fair play, serious clipping always to break 17, don't have a moment to relax. I think it's time to start getting my running shoes out again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
Thats serious running imtommygun, fair play. Once I get the connemarathon out of the way, I'll look at my 5km and 10km times again, bit of speed work to be done before that once the recovery is complete. Couple of the lads spent Janaury doing speed work and took their 5km times well under 19mins when both had struggled to break 20mins on the odd occasion.

Thank be to jaysus the marathon not this weekend, been hit with a bad dose since sunday, only feel kinda normal today, no running this week to date but not too worried about that at this stage, bit of rest no harm as got a shed load of miles in last week.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2013, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Broke 17 for a 5k last night BM. Had been training for a half but it was off due to the weather.

17??? Fcuk that is serious running 4 minutes off my best time, would struggle to get under 20 when I think about it, probably don't do enough running in fairness to get to that time, target this year is to get below 20 but 17 is great running.

Did you maintain the same pace throughout or start off really strong? I seem to keep the same pace throughout and lack that injection of pace at times
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 28, 2013, 11:13:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Broke 17 for a 5k last night BM. Had been training for a half but it was off due to the weather.

Was that the Queen's 5k?

I saw the results list - that was a seriously fast race.  The top femal came about a third of the way down.  Bro-in-law did his PB of 22.20 and was about two thirds of the way down. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qubdub on March 28, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
Was hoping on doing that Queen's 5k but other commitments meant I wasn't able. 17 mins is a brilliant time. I would struggle to break 20 (pb), usually just over/under 21 is what I seem to be stuck at.

Oddly I seem to run quicker out on the road than I do on the treadmill  ???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
Yes Queens 5k Rois. It's always got a lot of the fast boys in it so to be honest you're better not worrying about placing and just concentrating on the time.

MR I went out reasonably hard and dropped the pace a bit the next few k but managed to pick it up again. 3:17 for 1st k, 3:24 for the 2nd and then back down to 3:19 or so for the rest. 5k's are hard to judge - you see in those races that most people go out like the clappers and then die. It's about finding a balance. If you parkrun regularly you should try going out hard some day and see how it goes.

qubdub that's probably the monotony of the treadmill...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2013, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: qubdub on March 28, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
Was hoping on doing that Queen's 5k but other commitments meant I wasn't able. 17 mins is a brilliant time. I would struggle to break 20 (pb), usually just over/under 21 is what I seem to be stuck at.

Oddly I seem to run quicker out on the road than I do on the treadmill  ???

Yeah Tommy is right, the treadmill is boring as fook and I've always had better times on the road, but it does serve a purpose, will be doing 5K on it later

Yeah Tommy will give it a lash some week, might do a half lap warm up before the parkrun some day, always rushing down or late so never best prepared in fairness
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 11:51:35 AM
The parkrun is a funny one - it's too early in the morning and the body isn't fully functional and either has been too well fuelled or not fuelled at all. I'd expect any time you get in it you could do a good bit better than in the afternoon/evening. I always do anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qubdub on March 28, 2013, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2013, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: qubdub on March 28, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
Was hoping on doing that Queen's 5k but other commitments meant I wasn't able. 17 mins is a brilliant time. I would struggle to break 20 (pb), usually just over/under 21 is what I seem to be stuck at.

Oddly I seem to run quicker out on the road than I do on the treadmill  ???

Yeah Tommy is right, the treadmill is boring as fook and I've always had better times on the road, but it does serve a purpose, will be doing 5K on it later

Yeah Tommy will give it a lash some week, might do a half lap warm up before the parkrun some day, always rushing down or late so never best prepared in fairness
I only use treadmill for convenience more than anything really (that and to get a look at the women in the PEC). I find it boring alright but do 5k every time I'm in the gym (at least 2x/week) but still can't get my time down!

Are there any good 5k runs in Belfast? Preferably flat because the ones I do at home are quite hilly and want to try myself on a flat circuit..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2013, 11:51:35 AM
The parkrun is a funny one - it's too early in the morning and the body isn't fully functional and either has been too well fuelled or not fuelled at all. I'd expect any time you get in it you could do a good bit better than in the afternoon/evening. I always do anyway.

Aye think your are right about being fast in the afternoon, and getting the fueling right.

The Parkrun in the Waterworks is a decent run qubdub, two small inclines and generally flat, two laps.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2013, 07:51:59 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on March 27, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
Is that you on the left Muppet? :P

http://youtu.be/pcStG1GGBQg

I could easily beat both those guys  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on April 03, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
Ran my first ever 10K at the weekend, 58 minutes and 48 seconds or the likes, was happy enough to get under the hour TBH. I didn't do a whole lot of training, my feet went numb about half way and the bloody hills and wind off the Irish sea made it hard to breathe for almost a mile was disastrous, kept plodding along anyway. stamina running was never my thing but enjoyed it all the same.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on April 03, 2013, 01:07:53 PM
Legs were sore all last week so only did 1 decent run during the week along with soem gym work.

Went to Richmond Park parkrun on Saturday and my watch refused to pick up a signal before the race so i set off not knowing what pace i was doing. Flew around for the 1st few k and then struggled home for the last few. Ended up with 23:41 which is a PB. My 2 fellow runners also got a PB.

Then we went back to Richmond Park on Sunday for a 10k over the same route but from a different starting point and 2 laps instead of one. Found it to be my toughest run yet but got through it in 49:30 which is a 10k PB. My 2 mates also got a 10k PB so was a successful weekend for us all.

After having sore and tired legs all week, especially my quads, i woke up Monday as fresh as a daisy!! Sun was out for the 1st time in months so i put on the gear and headed out along the river. Felt as good as i've done in ages and ended up doing 10 miles door to door in 1hr 30. I was well able to keep it going had i wanted. Strange the way the body works at times! Ran another easy 10k yesterday eve and feel 100% today.

Off home to Carrick-on-Shannon this weekend for a Shannon boat cruise to Athlone and back for a stag do so running opps. will be at a minimum.

Best of luck to Bingo (and anyone else) doing the Connemarathon. Hope you get the weather and the time that you're hoping for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 03, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
Ran my first ever 10K at the weekend, 58 minutes and 48 seconds or the likes, was happy enough to get under the hour TBH. I didn't do a whole lot of training, my feet went numb about half way and the bloody hills and wind off the Irish sea made it hard to breathe for almost a mile was disastrous, kept plodding along anyway. stamina running was never my thing but enjoyed it all the same.

Not bad for a fat git ;D  Grand stuff all the same, the stubbornness keeps ya going, now you have a base time to work on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 05, 2013, 10:31:45 AM
Cheers Bamboo, you're flying and good to see the PB's are been clocked up. Seen your picture on FB of you and Crazy gang, you'd certainly see the difference on you! You are likely sea sick at this minute or marooned on an island on the shannon somewhere, but sure be a good time to start swimming as well and maybe think of Triathlons as well!!

Weekend of Connemarathon has arrived! Finally. Did a 8mile on Sunday down in Kilkenny on a wee break with the family, was absolute horrible run - breathing struggling, legs felt heavy, wind in face and couldn't wait to finish it. Was like running in wet cement!! Knocked me a bit as I was easy on the runs all week and wanted to keep fresh after a few heavy weeks. Did nothing since till yesterday evening and did a nice easy 3 mile run yesterday evening and it felt great! Was holding myself back, legs felt fresh, breathing was easy and all was good again.

So bar a 1.5mile run on Saturday before I head for Galway, all the work is done. Fingers crossed its not too windy, I can manage the rain but wind makes such a difference. At the minute its giving a breezey enough day, so not looking too good for that but hopefully that can change!  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 05, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
So I'm fucked for want of a better word, I haven't been running much in the last while and I registered to do the Newry Marathon yesterday.  I have 51 days to get fit!!!!!  Anyway, I have done them before without training, I just wouldn't mind getting a better time this time out.  I am doing it for charity and when I have my justgiving page set up you feckers better get your card details handy!!!!
Title: Re: Runnin
Post by: Bingo on April 08, 2013, 04:13:15 AM
I'll give a brief race report now, when half four.

Bastard wind. Wind was a whore. Hills with no forgiveness. I wanted to never run again. Last hour was pure torture and then some.

I hit wall. Finished in 4.03. PAIN. Never again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2013, 08:13:22 AM
Well done regardless.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2013, 08:34:36 AM
Fair play to you Bingo, any marathon is an achievement.  Tell me was it all on the roads or was it cross-country as well?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Well done Bingo. That marathon is known for being very tough so I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 08, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
Well done Bingo, it's a horrific course in fairness and use that last hour of pain in future races, you'll never feel as bad as that again.

I was down at it a few years ago when the auld lad was doing the half, course was brutally tough. Someone said that it's lovely scenery to him after, said yes, it would be...on a drive.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 08, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
Did the half yesterday in Connemara, was out on my feet all last week with a flu and really felt in on the hill into Maam on the last 8K, a headwind for most of it too, it is a brutal finish, came in under the 2 hours so am happy with that. Christ, though these Ultra boys, you have to take your hat off to them, one of them did them in his flip flops and came in in around the 4 and a half hour mark. Savage men.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 08, 2013, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on April 08, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
Did the half yesterday in Connemara, was out on my feet all last week with a flu and really felt in on the hill into Maam on the last 8K, a headwind for most of it too, it is a brutal finish, came in under the 2 hours so am happy with that. Christ, though these Ultra boys, you have to take your hat off to them, one of them did them in his flip flops and came in in around the 4 and a half hour mark. Savage men.
Seriously? Idiot if true.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 08, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
He passed me around the 17 mile mark and i was talking to him at the finish.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 08, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on April 08, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
He passed me around the 17 mile mark and i was talking to him at the finish.
Jeeze, that's asking for trouble with regards injuries!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 08, 2013, 06:53:59 PM
Cheers lads. I seen that guy in the flip flops as well, strange choice to say the least.

Feeling not too bad today. Was a serious tough day, felt great and was going well till 20 miles. Likely I stuck to my pre race pace and with the wind and hills it took its toll. Should have eased off and left something in the tank. Walked a right bit over last 3 miles but physically couldn't get a pace going, knee was in bits as well.

When I finished I was in bits, just went and found a spot indoors and put the head down for two mins. Met a few of the lads then who done the half. They sorted me with a cup of tea and a raisin bar, which was great. In fairness, it's a super run event and the physios and sports therapists giving the rubs afterwards was like heaven, cheers Gina!

On reflection I shouldn't be too annoyed. 228th place out of 590 or so. Felt I had 3.45 or better in me.

Galway was mighty craic last night but every pub seemed to have the bogs up stairs. Was gas meeting various hobbling runners as they negotiated the stairs.

Onwards and upwards, roll on the NewryCity half and the full in Dublin!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 10:57:14 AM
Haven't been able to run the last week or so, I refereed a game and played a game last Sunday and since then I have had problems with my hamstring. Really annoying as I've been going great guns lately and I've two parts of the Marathon to do in a few weeks time. I'm still doing cardio stuff in the spin classes but I'd like to get this sorted soon.

Whats the best treatment for a hamstring injury, I'm not sure of the the degree of injury but I know it's stopping me from running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 15, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
Any recommendations for the best of the belfast parkruns, thinking of doing the queens one, am staying in the ramada, am I right in thinking its just round the corner?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Depends on what you're looking for. Queens isn't the fastest but is a good wee event. Victoria is the fastest - did it on saturday for the first time - but is a wee bit mundane.

It is just round the corner from shaws bridge.

MR stretching and icing your best bet. Probably past the ice stage so stretch and strengthen.(or alternatively a physio a better bet...)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 15, 2013, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Depends on what you're looking for. Queens isn't the fastest but is a good wee event. Victoria is the fastest - did it on saturday for the first time - but is a wee bit mundane.

It is just round the corner from shaws bridge.

MR stretching and icing your best bet. Probably past the ice stage so stretch and strengthen.(or alternatively a physio a better bet...)
Try the middle stretch in this video MR....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJG9V5Td55A

I find it good to have your sole of your foot flat also and drop your right shoulder to inside of your right knee (if you are stretching right hammer).....make sure left foot on the ground is pointing straight also, long sustained stretches, 30 seconds minimum. As far as you can pain free.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Depends on what you're looking for. Queens isn't the fastest but is a good wee event. Victoria is the fastest - did it on saturday for the first time - but is a wee bit mundane.

It is just round the corner from shaws bridge.

MR stretching and icing your best bet. Probably past the ice stage so stretch and strengthen.(or alternatively a physio a better bet...)
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2013, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Depends on what you're looking for. Queens isn't the fastest but is a good wee event. Victoria is the fastest - did it on saturday for the first time - but is a wee bit mundane.

It is just round the corner from shaws bridge.

MR stretching and icing your best bet. Probably past the ice stage so stretch and strengthen.(or alternatively a physio a better bet...)
Try the middle stretch in this video MR....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJG9V5Td55A

I find it good to have your sole of your foot flat also and drop your right shoulder to inside of your right knee (if you are stretching right hammer).....make sure left foot on the ground is pointing straight also, long sustained stretches, 30 seconds minimum. As far as you can pain free.

Aye I've been stretching it and will be doing some strengthing exercises on it but wanted to know which ones are best, cheers. Would the leg curling machine be a decent work out for the hamstrings? I'm past the ice stage Tommy I think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
Squats, lunges and single leg bridges strengthen the hamstrings. Single leg squats would put a bigger focus on them too.

Leg curling "out the way" would target the quds but leg curling "in the way" targets the hamstrings. Again single leg of these focuses. Gyms seem to vary on these - some have the machines where you ly down while others have sit down with legs horizontal and pull in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2013, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
Squats, lunges and single leg bridges strengthen the hamstrings. Single leg squats would put a bigger focus on them too.

Leg curling "out the way" would target the quds but leg curling "in the way" targets the hamstrings. Again single leg of these focuses. Gyms seem to vary on these - some have the machines where you ly down while others have sit down with legs horizontal and pull in.

Aye the in the way one I was using as you say they generally have only a double leg one , but I put the weight down and used the single leg on it. As for squats and lunges i would do that a lot but will probably focus more on the single leg squats
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 21, 2013, 09:50:52 AM
London marathon about the kick off....

Fancy Mackau to take it, has been unlucky before! Think Mo might do well until halfway... ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 22, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
Got back on the bike as such on Saturday evening and entered a local 5km run in Dundalk. Hadn't done much since connemara bar a few 5 mile easy runs. Brother was heading up to it, so I said I'd go as well, done it last year and its a fast course. Wasn't really thinking of a time but was hoping to go sub 20m. Plan was to head out fast and see what the legs had left for finish.

Went better than plan and finished in 19.15, course was very fast with wind on back for the finish. Happy with that and its a PB by about 53 secs.

Yesterday headed down to the far side of Slane, a friends of womans husband died suddenly before xmas and he was principal of a National school, so every year they hold a 10km and family 3km fun run. We headed down to support it as it was in memory this year. Wasn't up for the 10km after the run the night before, so did the 3km run with the wee lad, he's 5. Had such a laugh with him, after a blistering start he adpoted a run/walk/run/walk strategy, he was very concerned about his position the whole way and if he was doing good. Kept looking back to make sure he was beating his mammy and sister who where doing bad. He was starting to get fed up and the finish line appeared, head down and he pumped the arms to finish in spectacular style and got a great reception. Was a great day and he was delighted with himself.

Two of the lads from the running group in town did London yesterday and finished in 2.49 and 2.53, great runs from them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2013, 11:58:45 AM
As I said before I am running the Newry marathon to raise money for PIPS.  I have started a sticky thread to keep it in peoples' view but here is the link to make on line donations!!!

Please Donate Here! (https://www.justgiving.com/gavin-cumiskey/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2013, 11:58:45 AM
As I said before I am running the Newry marathon to raise money for PIPS.  I have started a sticky thread to keep it in peoples' view but here is the link to make on line donations!!!

Please Donate Here! (https://www.justgiving.com/gavin-cumiskey/)

I'll defo sort you out for a few quid before the off.

Hows the training going?

On behalf of the board I'll also volunteer to ensure that he completes the marathon and will abuse encourage him on the day as I'll likely do the half marathon on the same day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2013, 11:58:45 AM
As I said before I am running the Newry marathon to raise money for PIPS.  I have started a sticky thread to keep it in peoples' view but here is the link to make on line donations!!!

Please Donate Here! (https://www.justgiving.com/gavin-cumiskey/)

I'll defo sort you out for a few quid before the off.

Hows the training going?

On behalf of the board I'll also volunteer to ensure that he completes the marathon and will abuse encourage him on the day as I'll likely do the half marathon on the same day.

Slowly and er....slowly :D  No fear that I won't finish it, it just depends on which day I finish it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on April 30, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Started doing 4 miles every morning along the Mersey before going to work.  Feel great after it and the view can be lovely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on April 30, 2013, 02:44:17 PM
Fair play BCB.

After mulling between the full and the half at Newry for a few months, I've taken the easier option. Just couldn't face 5-6 weekends in a row of piling on the miles.  I'll save the long one for when I've more time to train. Maybe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Thinking of doing the Dublin marathon, whats the story with entry dates and is it difficult to register?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Thinking of doing the Dublin marathon, whats the story with entry dates and is it difficult to register?

It's open for reg now, think price goes up in June or July. Very simple to register, just give your details and expected time. You can add on some of the other pre race runs as well and get a discount - 10miler, half marathon, which are all based in Phoenix park, may not suit you travel wise though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Mr just enter online. New belfast half launched today for september which is in good time plus derry half and two good 10ks round that time.

Might have a blast at the dublin ten miler and belfast half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
Anyone doing full marathon tomorrow or a leg or two? I'm doing the Antrim road leg and looking to do 8 minute miles for it, if it were flat I'd target a quicker time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2013, 09:04:42 AM
Might run it also if I've anything left in tank
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 06, 2013, 09:36:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2013, 09:04:42 AM
Might run it also if I've anything left in tank

Sure just trot on till you can do no more, you'll be grand!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2013, 06:50:51 PM
Managed 14.5 miles. Cardio wise no problem. Joint wise ficking shite especially outside of right knee is
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dirty Togs Power on May 17, 2013, 01:52:22 PM
Bredagh GAC are hosting a 10km run in Ormeau Park, Belfast on 15th June. Prizes for GAA club teams of 3 or more runners. Race is fully time-chipped.

Entry & further details at http://www.bredaghgac.com/-events/bredagh-10k-and-fun-run-36 (http://www.bredaghgac.com/-events/bredagh-10k-and-fun-run-36)

DTP
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on May 17, 2013, 02:09:36 PM
Tragic.

Man dies during race in Mourne mountains The man was taking part in a race in the Mourne mountains when he collapsed
A man in his sixties has collapsed and died while taking part in a race in the Mourne mountains.

It happened close to the summit of Slieve Moughamore on Thursday evening.

Despite attempts to revive the man by fellow runners and then rescue services, he died at the scene.

Martin McMullan from the Mourne mountain rescue team said their thoughts were with the man's family.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
It's the second guy this year to have died in a race in the Mournes. Very sad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2013, 03:54:26 PM
Any you runners have a problem with metarsal area after long distance run? Foot giving a bit of discomfort from marathon run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
MR is it the top or bottom of your foot? If it's the bottom it could be "plantar fascitis"(for want of a better spelling) which is a common running injury. If it's the top then potentially a bit more serious. Ballinaman is a physio so better placed to advise than me...

Ran a supposed 10k in Belfast last night and ended up breaking 34. Course over 400 metres short >:(

Very sad to hear about the guy dying - there's a good wee article on the NIMRA (Northern Ireland Mountain Running) about him. Seemed like a die hard mountain runner who had done plenty on the mountain scene so it wasn't like he was a novice. The other fella who died had completed a few marathons too so he was no novice either.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 18, 2013, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
MR is it the top or bottom of your foot? If it's the bottom it could be "plantar fascitis"(for want of a better spelling) which is a common running injury. If it's the top then potentially a bit more serious. Ballinaman is a physio so better placed to advise than me...

Ran a supposed 10k in Belfast last night and ended up breaking 34. Course over 400 metres short >:(

Very sad to hear about the guy dying - there's a good wee article on the NIMRA (Northern Ireland Mountain Running) about him. Seemed like a die hard mountain runner who had done plenty on the mountain scene so it wasn't like he was a novice. The other fella who died had completed a few marathons too so he was no novice either.
Was that 10k at the Mary Peters track?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
Yep, the Les Jones 10k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 18, 2013, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
Yep, the Les Jones 10k.
A friend was doing it. Will have to inform her of the shortage  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2013, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
MR is it the top or bottom of your foot? If it's the bottom it could be "plantar fascitis"(for want of a better spelling) which is a common running injury. If it's the top then potentially a bit more serious. Ballinaman is a physio so better placed to advise than me...

Ran a supposed 10k in Belfast last night and ended up breaking 34. Course over 400 metres short >:(

Very sad to hear about the guy dying - there's a good wee article on the NIMRA (Northern Ireland Mountain Running) about him. Seemed like a die hard mountain runner who had done plenty on the mountain scene so it wasn't like he was a novice. The other fella who died had completed a few marathons too so he was no novice either.

Top of the foot tommy, so I've been advised by Ballinaman and will try that, strange though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
It was nearly half a k short tony... They run the same fecking race every year.i think the marshalls sent us the wrong way.

Hopefully nothing too serious mr.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2013, 05:29:30 PM
It was nearly half a k short tony... They run the same fecking race every year.i think the marshalls sent us the wrong way.

Hopefully nothing too serious mr.

Have laid off the running, tried it yesterday after a week off, stopped after 5 minutes. Cycling and swimming now, which isn't a bad thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 19, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
Blackwater 10km race today on Monaghan. Very well supported, over 1000 took part runners/walkers/fun runners. Tight course with 3km on road and rest in and round trails of rossmore forest, some good hills.

Finished in 41.53 for a new PB and 32nd place overall. Shattered but pleased.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on May 19, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
41:53??? F*cking hell, i think i'm ticking along nicely whittling down the minutes and then i see these kind of times and realise how far off the pace that i really am! That's great running Bingo, fair play.

I'm down to 22:50 for 5k and 49:06 for the 10k. Managed a few 13 mile slow training runs at almost 2hrs flat so hoping to up that to 15miles before starting on whichever marathon programme i decide to tackle. Have entered a half-mara at the end of July and will prob do another mid-late August to prepare for the Windsor half at the end of Sept. Then it's all about getting it all together for the big one in October. Still no idea what kinda time i'm hoping to achieve.

Still enjoying it though so that's the main thing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 22, 2013, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: bamboo on May 19, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
41:53??? F*cking hell, i think i'm ticking along nicely whittling down the minutes and then i see these kind of times and realise how far off the pace that i really am! That's great running Bingo, fair play.

I'm down to 22:50 for 5k and 49:06 for the 10k. Managed a few 13 mile slow training runs at almost 2hrs flat so hoping to up that to 15miles before starting on whichever marathon programme i decide to tackle. Have entered a half-mara at the end of July and will prob do another mid-late August to prepare for the Windsor half at the end of Sept. Then it's all about getting it all together for the big one in October. Still no idea what kinda time i'm hoping to achieve.

Still enjoying it though so that's the main thing.

Cheers Bamboo, I'm moving well enough but I'd be a little further down the road than yourself. I've still a bit to go to catch some of the otehr flyers on here and about the town. You're moving rightly in fairness.

Haven't posted since Sunday and I see I noted I was shattered. Well a few hours later, I felt totally floored, went into fever like condition of been shivering with the cold to burning hot in the space of hours. Been off work Monday and Tuesday and even went to the doctor for first time in years! Seems to be some viral thing, really floored me, breathing not great and energy levels are zero. Back at work today but still not great. Looks like the running will have to slow down for a week or so, so no Newry half this sunday which is disappointing.

PS Bamboo when will this famous best mans speech make an appearance on Youtube?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
Did the Newry half marathon yesterday. Only my chip didn't register (something to do with keeping it in my pocket instead of shoe, I'd now guess).

Clocked me at 1.41.17 on Nike+, and found a photo crossing the line in 1.41.16. Very happy with that; my longest training run was 11 miles, and those last couple of miles nearly finished me off. How anyone converts that pace (and much better) into 26 miles is beyond me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 27, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
Did the Newry half marathon yesterday. Only my chip didn't register (something to do with keeping it in my pocket instead of shoe, I'd now guess).

Clocked me at 1.41.17 on Nike+, and found a photo crossing the line in 1.41.16. Very happy with that; my longest training run was 11 miles, and those last couple of miles nearly finished me off. How anyone converts that pace (and much better) into 26 miles is beyond me.

Jaysus I should have said nothing and pretended to finish it too and claim I had my chip in my pocket as well :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 27, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
Did the Newry half marathon yesterday. Only my chip didn't register (something to do with keeping it in my pocket instead of shoe, I'd now guess).

Clocked me at 1.41.17 on Nike+, and found a photo crossing the line in 1.41.16. Very happy with that; my longest training run was 11 miles, and those last couple of miles nearly finished me off. How anyone converts that pace (and much better) into 26 miles is beyond me.

Jaysus I should have said nothing and pretended to finish it too and claim I had my chip in my pocket as well :P

You probably had a chip on the way round ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on May 27, 2013, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 27, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
Did the Newry half marathon yesterday. Only my chip didn't register (something to do with keeping it in my pocket instead of shoe, I'd now guess).

Clocked me at 1.41.17 on Nike+, and found a photo crossing the line in 1.41.16. Very happy with that; my longest training run was 11 miles, and those last couple of miles nearly finished me off. How anyone converts that pace (and much better) into 26 miles is beyond me.

Jaysus I should have said nothing and pretended to finish it too and claim I had my chip in my pocket as well :P

You live, you learn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 27, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 27, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
Did the Newry half marathon yesterday. Only my chip didn't register (something to do with keeping it in my pocket instead of shoe, I'd now guess).

Clocked me at 1.41.17 on Nike+, and found a photo crossing the line in 1.41.16. Very happy with that; my longest training run was 11 miles, and those last couple of miles nearly finished me off. How anyone converts that pace (and much better) into 26 miles is beyond me.

Jaysus I should have said nothing and pretended to finish it too and claim I had my chip in my pocket as well :P

I must be getting on a bit when I teach cute hoorism to Crossmaglen folk.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 19, 2013, 11:33:24 PM
Any runners in Lisburn for the races tonight? It was a warm one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Karl Kennedy on June 25, 2013, 10:36:40 PM
Have got a ipod nano 7th Gen and I mean to use it while running.
What are the best ipod armbands to strap around arm while out running?
also after a pair of decent headphones to use with it. Are the neckband headphones or bluetooth ones any good?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
I did the 10k rois. Very warm and tough enough course. Some numbers at it.i use these headphones which are good. Dunno on armbands as I've a shuffle for running.

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on July 03, 2013, 04:11:53 PM
Lads/Ladies,

1st up, apologies for the length of the post. I could probably get this info elsewhere but as i know some of you personally i know that i won't be led astray and as theirs only a small group that use this thread regularly i assume i can trust all of your advice will be spot on.

It's the time of year now where anyone doing the Dublin Marathon will be starting their training plans so thought i'd rack some of your experienced brains for some advice.

I've kept up the long easy runs(longest is 13.2M) with almost weekly parkruns thrown in to the mix but have 2 more weekends of madness to get out of the way before jumping into 1 of the plans. I haven't fully decided on 1 yet but having trawled through boards.ie and here i'm gonna settle on a mixture of mostly a HH plan (Bingos Advice) with some stuff moved around to suit.

I really don't want to miss out on the weekly parkrun as their are quite a few of us that do it and it's a kind of social thing now and a bit of short sharp speed work won't do me any harm. Plus it's a nice way to start the weekend.

However, them being on a Saturday is an issue as the LSR is scheduled for the Sunday. I actually currently do my LSR midweek so i'm wondering which would be the best day to do it? Would pace run on Wed, LSR Thurs, Rest Fri with parkrun on Saturday be ok? I could do a short easy on Friday and move rest day to Sunday quite easily if that's more beneficial?

One of my easy run routes is quite hilly so i'll do that once weekly but the majority of my running is along the Thames so it's quite flat. There's a few nice long stretches along there too which could be used for a bit of pace miles thrown in.

Being in England i won't be doing any of the Dublin series runs but i have a few other runs lined up. Have a 10k on 17th July, HM on 28th July but then nothing until another HM on 29th Sept which i've mentioned before. Also have a 16M run on 13th Oct, which will be treated as a LSR with maybe a few quick miles thrown in, before the marathon itself.

Gonna get the gait analysis done in the next few weeks and choose a new pair of trainers for the longer runs so i can alternate them with the current ones. Anyone any good suggestions? Looked at the current pair which have about 400+ miles on them and the soles are almost perfect apart from some slight wear and tear at the very back of the heels, left slightly worse than the right.

Also, What do you guys generally use as fuel? Water/Sports drink/Gels?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2013, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: bamboo on July 03, 2013, 04:11:53 PM
However, them being on a Saturday is an issue as the LSR is scheduled for the Sunday. I actually currently do my LSR midweek so i'm wondering which would be the best day to do it? Would pace run on Wed, LSR Thurs, Rest Fri with parkrun on Saturday be ok? I could do a short easy on Friday and move rest day to Sunday quite easily if that's more beneficial?

Gonna get the gait analysis done in the next few weeks and choose a new pair of trainers for the longer runs so i can alternate them with the current ones. Anyone any good suggestions? Looked at the current pair which have about 400+ miles on them and the soles are almost perfect apart from some slight wear and tear at the very back of the heels, left slightly worse than the right.

Also, What do you guys generally use as fuel? Water/Sports drink/Gels?
Hey Bamboo,
The parkrun on the Saturday following that midweek plan looks fine. Do you go flat out in the parkrun every Saturday? You could incorporate it into a tempo run or even do it at the end of a LSR. I regularly did 3 miles approx at marathon pace at the end of 18+ mile runs. Gives you a fair idea of what running at your projected pace with that many miles in the legs already done feels like. Doesn't have to be something to do every time but something to think about if you want to add a bit of variety.

Gait analysis isn't a bad idea although and a good pair of runners are vital, I use Nike lunar glides but I've a neutral foot so an asics might be better suited if you over pronate, Asics 2000 will generally do the job and not mad expensive like the kayano.

Get yourself a foam roller for your calves, quads and gluts. You could have the best running shoes, orthotics that money can buy but if you're muscles are too tight, you'll breakdown with an injury as you get further into the training.

HiFive IsoGels are good I found, not too thick compared to some gels on the market and easy to swallow when on the run.

Go luck with the training and give it stick. I'm in hibernation until November when I plan to give sub 2.50 in Boston next April a crack!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on July 03, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Cheers BM, don't know how to include quote but i'll answer in here. Most of the parkruns would be done flat out, but getting a long run in before them would be nearly impossible. They start at 9am and i work until 4/5am most nights and also act as cabbie for the parkrun crew. I suppose i could swap things around and maybe do a run beforehand but getting the timing right would be an issue. Also wouldn't the standing around before the start kinda hinder things?

Thanks for the other advice. Currently using asics so will stick with those. There's a foam roller at the gym which i'll make use of. I'll be going there to do a bit of spin and core classes so can use it then.

2:50?? Christ Almighty!!

I've no time in mind yet, just finishing it will be the 1st aim. I'll have a better idea after the HM at the end of the month but it's a riverside one with a few obstacles apparently so not sure how good a gauge that'll be.

Now, if only i could quit this 20-a-day habit and give my lungs a chance............
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: bamboo on July 03, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Cheers BM, don't know how to include quote but i'll answer in here. Most of the parkruns would be done flat out, but getting a long run in before them would be nearly impossible. They start at 9am and i work until 4/5am most nights and also act as cabbie for the parkrun crew. I suppose i could swap things around and maybe do a run beforehand but getting the timing right would be an issue. Also wouldn't the standing around before the start kinda hinder things?

Thanks for the other advice. Currently using asics so will stick with those. There's a foam roller at the gym which i'll make use of. I'll be going there to do a bit of spin and core classes so can use it then.

2:50?? Christ Almighty!!

I've no time in mind yet, just finishing it will be the 1st aim. I'll have a better idea after the HM at the end of the month but it's a riverside one with a few obstacles apparently so not sure how good a gauge that'll be.

Now, if only i could quit this 20-a-day habit and give my lungs a chance............
Well if you're going to have the dedication to see this marathon through, you'll definitely have the ability to knock fags on the head!!

Right, long run before would be impossible if you're working to that time at night, wouldn't be out the question to get there in or around 9am say even if you ran for 45mins to 1 hour before in the warm up, then park run and then another 30-40mins warm down...that's the basis of a great tempo session right there.
100% no time on your 1st marathon, I went in trying to do sub 3 in 2011 and went to pieces in the last 8 miles.Learned from mistakes in 2012 then. It's all about finishing for your 1st one!
Use that foam roll and don't dodge it, it'll save you money and time off injured in the long run!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
Bamboo if you can do a long run on a thursday then you could treat the saturday as the tuesday on the plan if you see what i mean.

A few comments though...
parkrun is a great wee event but consider not going flat out every week. If it benefits your training then yes do it but if you do it and it impacts the long runs then not worth it for a marathon. Your long runs are your key session. A parkrun is free and weekly so you can come back to flat out...

Maybe even doing parkrun at marathon pace might help and then you should be fresh sunday and would be adapting to marathon pace. If you do this do a few miles after. Basically if you're training for a marathon a flatout parkrun probably won't have that many benefits for you.

As BM says finishing the best aim in first marathon. Have never done one but have trained with a lot who have all suffered during them.

I won my first parkrun in belfast a few weeks ago. There are five on the go now so the better runners are being more spread out!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 06, 2013, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
I won my first parkrun in belfast a few weeks ago. There are five on the go now so the better runners are being more spread out!
Nice one, good feeling! Must be tipping sub 17 a good bit since going under a few months ago! Congrats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 06, 2013, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
I won my first parkrun in belfast a few weeks ago. There are five on the go now so the better runners are being more spread out!
Nice one, good feeling! Must be tipping sub 17 a good bit since going under a few months ago! Congrats.

Not even close... Can't run that fast at that time of the morning! 17:20 odd this morning. Not enough energy with no breakfast to be going any quicker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 06, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 06, 2013, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
I won my first parkrun in belfast a few weeks ago. There are five on the go now so the better runners are being more spread out!
Nice one, good feeling! Must be tipping sub 17 a good bit since going under a few months ago! Congrats.

Not even close... Can't run that fast at that time of the morning! 17:20 odd this morning. Not enough energy with no breakfast to be going any quicker.
Serious clipping all the same, ya, it's a tough time in the morning to run a quick time because you're basically burning fats which are slow release energy, much easier to do a long slow run compared to a flat out 5k I found.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2013, 09:50:38 AM
Good man Bamboo, I don't know how you manage to get any running in at all with your social life. If the Artane boys band where playing in London, you'd probably be at it!

Ballinaman has hit on everything really. I'd recommend the Aiscs 2000, wear them myself for the long runs and have a pair of GT1000's for the shorter runs. Nice to rotate them but the 2000's will be shortly replaced with a new pair, will stick to them.

Have been hit and miss recently with the running, probably 2 runs a week at best. Diet hasn't been good either but likely to be this time of the year as busy with work and everything else. Looking at a 12 week plan for Dublin (which is 16 weeks from today), so started last week trying to get back in routine and hit the plan with about 30 miles a week under the belt. Struggled through a 10 miler yesterday and the heat plays such a big factor in a run. It was tight going and alot of water needed, pace wasn't on the agenda.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on July 08, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
You're not wrong about the social life Bingo, it's one thing going to the odd gig, it's another thing completely drinking right through the night afterwards before going on another session while watching the GAA on a Sunday after only 3hrs kip!!. Thankfully the summer is nearly over so i can get properly stuck into a training plan, albeit a few weeks late.  You worry about your cooking and i'll worry about my addiction to live music.

Good point about the heat too. Just ran a decent paced 5k along the river, and between the heat and the previous few days excessive alcohol consumption it was a toughie to say the least.

Thanks again for the advice BM and Imtommy. Think i'll continue with flat out parkruns for another few weeks and then forget about PB's and just run them at MP with a couple of extra miles thrown in either before or after until the marathon is done and dusted. Well done on the win btw, great going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: bamboo on July 08, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
You're not wrong about the social life Bingo, it's one thing going to the odd gig, it's another thing completely drinking right through the night afterwards before going on another session while watching the GAA on a Sunday after only 3hrs kip!!. Thankfully the summer is nearly over so i can get properly stuck into a training plan, albeit a few weeks late.  You worry about your cooking and i'll worry about my addiction to live music.

Good point about the heat too. Just ran a decent paced 5k along the river, and between the heat and the previous few days excessive alcohol consumption it was a toughie to say the least.

Thanks again for the advice BM and Imtommy. Think i'll continue with flat out parkruns for another few weeks and then forget about PB's and just run them at MP with a couple of extra miles thrown in either before or after until the marathon is done and dusted. Well done on the win btw, great going.

Haha. It's not me that'll have to worry about my cooking, it's the poor soul who will have to taste it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 10, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
Lads,

Just starting back running after some knee pain and to be honest i have no confidence in getting my distances up due to a fear of it re-occurring....every twinge, ache makes me slow down/ stop and i cant push myself hard like i used to... does this pass after a while or is there a technique to over coming it.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 10, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 10, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
Lads,

Just starting back running after some knee pain and to be honest i have no confidence in getting my distances up due to a fear of it re-occurring....every twinge, ache makes me slow down/ stop and i cant push myself hard like i used to... does this pass after a while or is there a technique to over coming it.....

I'm sure Ballinaman man would have more to stay on it.

Over the last two years, I've had knee pain on both knees. Did no more than more stretches for the knee and started using a foam roller. Basically I just ran through it then, I remember one day and it was after a rest period and it was evident at the start of my run and I considered stopping but said I'd give it another while and after a minute or so I felt nothing and haven't since, kept at the stretches and the foam roller.

Obviously every injury could be different and yours may be different. Best advice is likely to consult a physio.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 10, 2013, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 10, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 10, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
Lads,

Just starting back running after some knee pain and to be honest i have no confidence in getting my distances up due to a fear of it re-occurring....every twinge, ache makes me slow down/ stop and i cant push myself hard like i used to... does this pass after a while or is there a technique to over coming it.....

I'm sure Ballinaman man would have more to stay on it.

Over the last two years, I've had knee pain on both knees. Did no more than more stretches for the knee and started using a foam roller. Basically I just ran through it then, I remember one day and it was after a rest period and it was evident at the start of my run and I considered stopping but said I'd give it another while and after a minute or so I felt nothing and haven't since, kept at the stretches and the foam roller.

Obviously every injury could be different and yours may be different. Best advice is likely to consult a physio.
Sound advice from Bingo there.

I'll throw up some general advice regarding knee pain in running which I've found from experience.

Two general types : 1) Traumatic - twist, fall, instant onset of pain. 2) Gradual build up of pain over weeks and sometimes months (running knee pain normally falls into this category)

Traumatic could be a ligamentous issue or cartilage. Normally a fair bit of swelling initially after the incident of injury.

Gradual/all over the knee sort of pain is usually related to the patella (knee cap) where there area around it and under it has become inflammed.
The knee cap is probably tracking a little bit off during each stride and over time this leads to the area being inflammed.

It can be sorted a few ways - foam rolling your ITB, quads and gluts so that the knee cap is being pulled in the wrong direction and strengthening your bum muscles( they help control your thigh bone position on impact during running) and your VMO muscle (small quad muscle that stabilises your knee cap).

So quick tests at home : Was there a specific incident or just a gradual onset? Sore when I touch my knee cap or the squishy area of tissue below?( patellar inflammation) or can I get my heel to my bum without pain on the outside or inside of knee? ( if pain, could be a meniscal/cartilage tear).

What causes gradual onset? Few of the most common reasons studies have shown..

1. Tight muscles - gluts, quads and ITB - don't allow the knee cap and knee joint function properly to disperse force though the knee. Foam roller is a NB purchase for an runner.

2. Weak gluts - sitting on your arse all day at work and then off pounding the roads - sound familiar? Arse muscles control your hip and again disperse force through your leg evenly when strong. Not talking about crushing diamonds with your arse strong, just need them activated - glut bridges, clam's ( all on youtube) every now and then to wake them up.

3. Poor footwear - Get yourself a decent pair of running shoes - You'll run better, less chance of getting injured and therefore save money on having to get the injury treated.

I know those barefoot running shoes are all the rage at the moment but the info is very sketchy. I don't buy into the argument of African or Native American tribes running barefoot for 100's of years injury free.
You can't compare those lads to the run of the mill runners at the moment. Terrain, genetic make up - type of running they do are all different to your average runner around these parts.
Get yourself a pair of Asics or Nike running shoes.

Hope that was clear enough but any questions, give us a shout!

I'm off for an hour run now after all this talk...warm weather training in Dublin eh. Who'd have thunk it?!?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 15, 2013, 12:36:13 PM
Top Stuff there Ballinaman, I have gone to a physical therapist in Mayo for the past few weeks, been using the roller too, have to say the roller is some piece of kit, my ITB feels totally flat now when rolling it. Went and did 7.5 last week and rolled out a 10K yesterday in under 50 mins. Am delighted to be back in action again, but 10K will be the height of it distance wise for a while.

Thanks again for the advice.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 15, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
Stepped up the km's last week again but its a struggle in that heat plus I've been doing as much hill work as possible to build up leg muscle and lose a few pounds.

Managed 33km's from Tuesday to Sunday and also played a Recreational/Over 35 tournement on Saturday evening, 60 mins of football, was very enjoyable has to be said.

Legs feeling it today with a further run yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
Started doing a bit of running last week. Went out the first night not knowing what to expect - was honestly just trying to run for 5 minutes without stopping but managed to do 20. Am doing a shortish route (just over 2 miles) near my house and improving my time in leaps and bounds since the first night (down to below 18 mins now). Have done it 4 times now and again tonight. My short term target is a 5k on Sunday week which I should manage ok. My question is - should I up the distance or just continue to focus on improving my time over my current route? My brother who is an experienced runner reckons I should do the latter and save the challenge of the extra distance for race day (my first). What do ye think?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 24, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
Some of the more experienced lads might give better advice but I'd say definitely increase the distance, maybe trying running for 40/50 mins, slower pace once a week.
Even if its for your own sanity I'd mix it up, throw in hills some evening etc
Maybe 3 x 1mile intervals another, give yourself a 2-4 minute break in between but try and keep a good pace for each of them, or try and get a better time on each, its a real toughie
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 24, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
Started doing a bit of running last week. Went out the first night not knowing what to expect - was honestly just trying to run for 5 minutes without stopping but managed to do 20. Am doing a shortish route (just over 2 miles) near my house and improving my time in leaps and bounds since the first night (down to below 18 mins now). Have done it 4 times now and again tonight. My short term target is a 5k on Sunday week which I should manage ok. My question is - should I up the distance or just continue to focus on improving my time over my current route? My brother who is an experienced runner reckons I should do the latter and save the challenge of the extra distance for race day (my first). What do ye think?

All depends on what your target is, doing the 5k Park runs? Or the 10 races that are about? Ideally 10k should be a realistic target and the 5k should be handy enough once you get up to speed to register good times. After about two years I'd say I'd be ready for a half Marathon without a lot of long distance stuff done.

From the little experience that I have I would offer this, stretch properly and warm up properly, left leg was having hamstring problems for a while, can manage 5k at 7.5 mph but can do a lot better but don't want to sprint to quickly
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2013, 01:26:58 PM
The biggest difficulty with upping distances is that body and mind aren't used to it.

There'll be a bit of adrenaline and stubbornness on a raceday that you won't normally get which helps counter the longer distance. But if you're pitching for 27-28 mins of running, I'd suggest you do one run of longer than 20 mins in advance. The last 5 will then come as less of a shock.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
Thanks for the help. Some food for thought. Might go a wee bit farther tonight.

I just started doing this with the aim of doing a charity run at the end of August that work are promoting participation in. It's a 5k/10k and initially I was aiming to do the 5k but now I think possibly the 10k is an attainable goal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2013, 02:14:01 PM
Go longer to get the fitness up first so maybe drop the speed.

First step is getting the fitness for it. In time the speed will come too.

If you can run 20 minutes 5k will be no problem plus as others said adrenaline / stubbornness will get you round it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
Went a bit farther tonight but it wasn't a great run cos judging by the time (28 mins) I started out way too slow. Felt strong at the end and blasted out the last km but it was a crappy time. Still, I'll not be as tentative the next night - should be able to knock a bit of shape into that time easily.

Thanks for the encouragement, this is all stepping into the unknown for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
got a nice wee watch in lidl this morning with a heart monitor and stop watch all for 14 yo yos well pleased
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 26, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
Seanie you must be fairly fit to start with if you were able do 20mins first night out. I am doing couch to 5k program(again  ::) ) at the moment and going fairly well. Starting week 5 tomorrow and at the end of week have to do a 20min run which i'm dreading.
I have a question aswell for all you experienced athletes.
I need a new pair of runners. I went into Elverys on the way home and tried on a few. The most comfortable  were a pair of Adidas trail runners, would it be ok to use these on the road? I do run on grass aswell around football pitches but I don't really want to have to buy two pairs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 27, 2013, 01:23:05 AM
Laoislad - I was a bit shocked I was able to do that but I managed it (pretty slow pace mind you). I would say that I have been a lot more unfit in the past than I was starting off. with 2 young kids I simply don't have the time or opportunity to abuse myself (drinking, fast food, lying on the couch) in any way! Going great guns now and really enjoying it. Crushed Wednesday's time this evening (26 mins) so well chuffed.

The advice I got on runners was to go for either Asics or New Balance. I got a pair of Asics Gel Virage 6 reduced from €90 to €65 and I love them. They're light years ahead of any other runners I've worn. They're a huge part of why this is going well for me. If I got aches and pains in the joints I'd quit very quickly but so far so good.

One other key thing for me is the iPod. A good playlist of tunes shortens the road for you, keeps the brain from wandering down the negative "I'm fcuked" path and gives you a lift - I'd be lost without it personally.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2013, 08:49:59 AM
Being on a Gaa forum you would imagine most on here have all played through to their senior/junior teams and had a degree of core fitness, but when you stop playing and start having a family the pounds seem to pile on and the fitness goes to the wall.

Was so glad that I managed to continue to do something over the years as it seems really difficult to get fit again
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
Laoislad- when you are in Elverys, you should get the Gait analysis done and they'd put you right on what pair of runners to get. They very good in Arnotts, I seen them talk an Asia guy out of buying a pair of asics kayanos (€170) as he was a fun runner, they have a good range of stuff.

The trail runners generally are flatter and have a harder sole for running on bumpy, uneven surfaces. They would be cushioned as well on sides for comfort. Running on the roads or flat surfaces may not be ideal over time. You should be able to get a good pair of asics at a good price and they'll be equally as comfortable.

Fair play to the lads. I'm still a novice myself but it still surprises me how good I feel after a good run, great for body and mind.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on July 27, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
Anyone ran the Paris marathon before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ran my first ever 5k tonight!  ;D
Wasn't supposed to it it just sort of happened. I bought new runners today and went out to give them a test drive.
I felt good so kept running and next thing don't you know the runkeeper app tells me I had run 5k.
I did it in 29 mins 50 secs. Not the fastest time ever I know but for a fella who could hardly run for 30 seconds 5 weeks ago I'll take it for my first ever 5k.

I don't know what to do now though.I am doing the couch to 5k app and only just finished week 5 which means I have another 4 weeks left of it. I've already done 5k though so is there any point in finishing the program?
Would my time be best served lowering my 5k time and maybe upping the distance even more? I felt I had another km or 2 left in me tonight but I stopped at the 5k mark anyways.

btw the runners I got are a brand called ProTouch. Never heard of them before but by jaysis are they comfy.Got them in Elverys for €60
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2013, 12:50:26 AM
Bought a pair of Reeboks there last week and even though they're my usual size they're like clown shoes. Could barely run a minute without them feeling like they were slipping off. Got to put more thought into the replacement pair I buy.

How snug is too snug? I have a battered old pair of Adidas runners that probably have the cushioning wore away to nothing but damn if they don't fit like a charm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 04, 2013, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ran my first ever 5k tonight! 

Well done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2013, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ran my first ever 5k tonight!  ;D
Wasn't supposed to it it just sort of happened. I bought new runners today and went out to give them a test drive.
I felt good so kept running and next thing don't you know the runkeeper app tells me I had run 5k.
I did it in 29 mins 50 secs. Not the fastest time ever I know but for a fella who could hardly run for 30 seconds 5 weeks ago I'll take it for my first ever 5k.

I don't know what to do now though.I am doing the couch to 5k app and only just finished week 5 which means I have another 4 weeks left of it. I've already done 5k though so is there any point in finishing the program?
Would my time be best served lowering my 5k time and maybe upping the distance even more? I felt I had another km or 2 left in me tonight but I stopped at the 5k mark anyways.

btw the runners I got are a brand called ProTouch. Never heard of them before but by jaysis are they comfy.Got them in Elverys for €60

29 is good going seeing ya haven't done much in a while, now you just work on it, you could (time permitted) do 2/3 times a week and you will defo knock minutes off that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on August 05, 2013, 01:21:07 PM
Im doing Tough Mudder in Cheshire on 6th October, it looks a bit mad but its motivated me to get off my ass.

Im 29 and stopped playing ball 3 years ago.  Started into the running again last week.

Did 6KM first time out and did it a few more times last week.  Going to up it to 8KM tonight but im not looking forward to it.

It's amazing what 1 weeks of solid exercize and decent diet can do for the body and mind.  I feel fantastic.

I have cut out all the shit I was eating before.

Downloads an app on my phone called MapMyRun, great job.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 05, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ran my first ever 5k tonight!  ;D
Wasn't supposed to it it just sort of happened. I bought new runners today and went out to give them a test drive.
I felt good so kept running and next thing don't you know the runkeeper app tells me I had run 5k.
I did it in 29 mins 50 secs. Not the fastest time ever I know but for a fella who could hardly run for 30 seconds 5 weeks ago I'll take it for my first ever 5k.

I don't know what to do now though.I am doing the couch to 5k app and only just finished week 5 which means I have another 4 weeks left of it. I've already done 5k though so is there any point in finishing the program?
Would my time be best served lowering my 5k time and maybe upping the distance even more? I felt I had another km or 2 left in me tonight but I stopped at the 5k mark anyways.

btw the runners I got are a brand called ProTouch. Never heard of them before but by jaysis are they comfy.Got them in Elverys for €60

Great stuff Laoislad. Similar to myself in a lot of ways. Had the couch to 5k program but thought I'd go for a run to see how long I'd last and judge where to "start" on the program. I thought I'd die but the first night I stuck the runners on I was able to keep going for 20 minutes. Like you, completed my first 5k over the weekend in a local fun run. Was hoping to break 29 minutes but went just over. I guess the years of playing football means we're not totally starting from scratch. I'm 3 weeks at it now and I love it. Wearing jeans/trousers I haven't worn in years!

Torn between focussing on taking down the 5k time or shooting for a 10k. There's a charity 5k/10k run in the Phoenix Park at the end of the month and I'm not sure whether to stick with the 5k or try to do the 10k. I suppose if I'm getting out and doing good runs the 5k time will drop anyway so might try to add a bit more distance this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 06, 2013, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ran my first ever 5k tonight!  ;D
Wasn't supposed to it it just sort of happened. I bought new runners today and went out to give them a test drive.
I felt good so kept running and next thing don't you know the runkeeper app tells me I had run 5k.
I did it in 29 mins 50 secs. Not the fastest time ever I know but for a fella who could hardly run for 30 seconds 5 weeks ago I'll take it for my first ever 5k.

I don't know what to do now though.I am doing the couch to 5k app and only just finished week 5 which means I have another 4 weeks left of it. I've already done 5k though so is there any point in finishing the program?
Would my time be best served lowering my 5k time and maybe upping the distance even more? I felt I had another km or 2 left in me tonight but I stopped at the 5k mark anyways.

btw the runners I got are a brand called ProTouch. Never heard of them before but by jaysis are they comfy.Got them in Elverys for €60

Great stuff Laoislad. Similar to myself in a lot of ways. Had the couch to 5k program but thought I'd go for a run to see how long I'd last and judge where to "start" on the program. I thought I'd die but the first night I stuck the runners on I was able to keep going for 20 minutes. Like you, completed my first 5k over the weekend in a local fun run. Was hoping to break 29 minutes but went just over. I guess the years of playing football means we're not totally starting from scratch. I'm 3 weeks at it now and I love it. Wearing jeans/trousers I haven't worn in years!

Torn between focussing on taking down the 5k time or shooting for a 10k. There's a charity 5k/10k run in the Phoenix Park at the end of the month and I'm not sure whether to stick with the 5k or try to do the 10k. I suppose if I'm getting out and doing good runs the 5k time will drop anyway so might try to add a bit more distance this week.

Cheers magpie. Loving it myself.
Went out again tonight and done another 5k and my time was 27min 55secs so knocked nearly 2 minutes off my time from saturday.

Is that fun run in the Pheonix Park the breast cancer one?
I was thinking of doing this one as my first official 5k?
https://www.activeglobal.com/running/dublin-ireland/apfs-harriers-5k-charity-fun-run-2013
It's for a couple of good charities and I thought it would be a nice one for myself to start off with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:47:58 PM
Have you considered those parkruns laoislad? One in malahide and one in marlay park? They'd be good options to get you started.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 07, 2013, 10:36:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:47:58 PM
Have you considered those parkruns laoislad? One in malahide and one in marlay park? They'd be good options to get you started.

The father in law was telling me about the one in Marlay Park as they live just across from Marlay.
Might give it a go alright.
There is one in Lucan as well which is only at the end of my road so will start doing that too.
http://www.parkrun.ie/griffeen/course/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 07, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
Yeah. It's the Breast Cancer one. I'll be the one wearing the pink! Don't know if I'll be knocking 2 minutes off my time any time soon but I'll keep at it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Well into the Marathon programme after a nice week down in Cork on Holidays, great early morning runs along the beach and a lovely 1km tight hill back up to the house!

Put in 40miles from last Sunday to yesterday, followed the programme to a tee! First week, only 11 more to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
Good man Bingo.

I ran 26m49sec for my 5k Saturday morning so knocked another min off it.
Gonna keep going till I break 25min then will start trying to do a 10k.
Going to go out tonight after work but after the beering I done at the weekend I'm not looking forward to it. :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
Good man Bingo.

I ran 26m49sec for my 5k Saturday morning so knocked another min off it.
Gonna keep going till I break 25min then will start trying to do a 10k.
Going to go out tonight after work but after the beering I done at the weekend I'm not looking forward to it. :-\

Fair play lad, you bombing away rightly. I'd start edging over the 5km mark towards 10km and it will have an impact on your 5km time.

Did you meet up with BC1 on Saturday? I was late getting in Saturday and had the wee lad in tow, so went straight into stadium, even at that was in seats just as the teams went off from their warm up.

The pubs seemed rammed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
Good man Bingo.

I ran 26m49sec for my 5k Saturday morning so knocked another min off it.
Gonna keep going till I break 25min then will start trying to do a 10k.
Going to go out tonight after work but after the beering I done at the weekend I'm not looking forward to it. :-\

Fair play lad, you bombing away rightly. I'd start edging over the 5km mark towards 10km and it will have an impact on your 5km time.

Did you meet up with BC1 on Saturday? I was late getting in Saturday and had the wee lad in tow, so went straight into stadium, even at that was in seats just as the teams went off from their warm up.

The pubs seemed rammed.

Had the aul fella and a few lads up from home with me so I was driving so no beer till after the game,didn't meet up with anyone. Saw a fella wearing a Monaghan hoodie in the Premium that wasn't you was it?
Went to hurling(greatest game ever and more skillful than football) yesterday and had a belly full of beer so not in best shape today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
Had the aul fella and a few lads up from home with me so I was driving so no beer till after the game,didn't meet up with anyone. Saw a fella wearing a Monaghan hoodie in the Premium that wasn't you was it?
Went to hurling(greatest game ever and more skillful than football) yesterday and had a belly full of beer so not in best shape today!

I was in similar boat - had the auld fella (and mother as well) with me, I done the driving. Wasn't wearing the Monaghan Hoodie, wouldn't wear one either  ;)

More importantly did you cheer for the Dubs yesterday???  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 12, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Well into the Marathon programme after a nice week down in Cork on Holidays, great early morning runs along the beach and a lovely 1km tight hill back up to the house!

Put in 40miles from last Sunday to yesterday, followed the programme to a tee! First week, only 11 more to go.
Good stuff bingo. Keep her lit.
I hope to be working in the recovery tent and the finish this year, so I'll have to give preference to fellow GAA boarders!
Ran a 10km down west at the weekend, have only being doing gym and two 30 minute runs per week since Christmas. Was nervous running a race for the first time since I was about 12 because serious fear I was gonna get my ass handed to me because of so little training. Managed to come in around the 37 and a half mark, one of most satisfying runs ever due to the lack of training!
Boston applications open in September, hope to be very lucky and get in, going to be very hard though I'd say because of the interest in it this year and I'd say those who didn't finish last year will get in automatically!
Fair play LaoisLad, keep it going, great stuff!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 12, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
Had the aul fella and a few lads up from home with me so I was driving so no beer till after the game,didn't meet up with anyone. Saw a fella wearing a Monaghan hoodie in the Premium that wasn't you was it?
Went to hurling(greatest game ever and more skillful than football) yesterday and had a belly full of beer so not in best shape today!

I was in similar boat - had the auld fella (and mother as well) with me, I done the driving. Wasn't wearing the Monaghan Hoodie, wouldn't wear one either  ;)

More importantly did you cheer for the Dubs yesterday???  ;D

It's a bit like what I tell people when they ask me what I done when I spent a week in Bangkok on my own..
What happened and who I supported in Croke Park yesterday stays in Croke Park and will not be spoken of again,but as with Bangkok I had to do a lot of washing to take the dirty feeling off me when it was all over...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 12, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Well into the Marathon programme after a nice week down in Cork on Holidays, great early morning runs along the beach and a lovely 1km tight hill back up to the house!

Put in 40miles from last Sunday to yesterday, followed the programme to a tee! First week, only 11 more to go.
Good stuff bingo. Keep her lit.
I hope to be working in the recovery tent and the finish this year, so I'll have to give preference to fellow GAA boarders!
Ran a 10km down west at the weekend, have only being doing gym and two 30 minute runs per week since Christmas. Was nervous running a race for the first time since I was about 12 because serious fear I was gonna get my ass handed to me because of so little training. Managed to come in around the 37 and a half mark, one of most satisfying runs ever due to the lack of training!
Boston applications open in September, hope to be very lucky and get in, going to be very hard though I'd say because of the interest in it this year and I'd say those who didn't finish last year will get in automatically!
Fair play LaoisLad, keep it going, great stuff!

I'll definately have to work my way into your tent afterwards, got one after Connemarathon and it worked great!

Happy with the running at the minute, definately going to follow the plan. I tended to run every run at pace and when it came to the long runs, I'd struggle to finish. Already feel stronger on the finishes and at a better pace throughout. Doing recovery runs as well, at a very slow pace and they loosen me out no end.

I've a mate heading for Boston, he got in on some sort of sponsors place. He heading with a Bro-in-law of his who is based in london but from my neck of the woods. It will be a huge event this year, fingers crossed you make it. Even with yopur qualifying time is it still a ballot for you?

Decent running on the 10km, I find the more relaxed you are in a race, you enjoy it more and the time follows.

You ever read "Born to Run". Read on the holidays last week, great read.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on August 12, 2013, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 12, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Well into the Marathon programme after a nice week down in Cork on Holidays, great early morning runs along the beach and a lovely 1km tight hill back up to the house!

Put in 40miles from last Sunday to yesterday, followed the programme to a tee! First week, only 11 more to go.
Good stuff bingo. Keep her lit.
I hope to be working in the recovery tent and the finish this year, so I'll have to give preference to fellow GAA boarders!
Ran a 10km down west at the weekend, have only being doing gym and two 30 minute runs per week since Christmas. Was nervous running a race for the first time since I was about 12 because serious fear I was gonna get my ass handed to me because of so little training. Managed to come in around the 37 and a half mark, one of most satisfying runs ever due to the lack of training!
Boston applications open in September, hope to be very lucky and get in, going to be very hard though I'd say because of the interest in it this year and I'd say those who didn't finish last year will get in automatically!
Fair play LaoisLad, keep it going, great stuff!

I'll definately have to work my way into your tent afterwards, got one after Connemarathon and it worked great!

Happy with the running at the minute, definately going to follow the plan. I tended to run every run at pace and when it came to the long runs, I'd struggle to finish. Already feel stronger on the finishes and at a better pace throughout. Doing recovery runs as well, at a very slow pace and they loosen me out no end.

I've a mate heading for Boston, he got in on some sort of sponsors place. He heading with a Bro-in-law of his who is based in london but from my neck of the woods. It will be a huge event this year, fingers crossed you make it. Even with yopur qualifying time is it still a ballot for you?

Decent running on the 10km, I find the more relaxed you are in a race, you enjoy it more and the time follows.

You ever read "Born to Run". Read on the holidays last week, great read.

Just ordered this today off Amazon along with 'Running With The Kenyans'.  Both very highly rated.

I would like to start running having started to do quite a bit of cycling over the past few months.  I have read quite a few times that the best way to choose a pair of runners is to go into a dedicated shop and get them fitted etc. Can anyone reccommend such a shop in Belfast or Armagh, and roughly how much a good pair of runners cost?  Also, when running previously I have suffered quite a bit with shin splints - should a properly fitted pair of runners cure this for me?

Thanks,
Mal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Running with the kenyans is a great book. I have to say I never finished born to run - I struggled with it.

On the subject of Kenyans interesting to see one of the guys(Freddy Sittuk) who ran Belfast staying in Ireland(up in Derry) and racing this last few months and racing all round Ireland. A few Irish guys have been able to beat him though he has won a lot of races. Kennealy beat him in Galway at the weekend, Pollock beat him and I think Paddy Hamilton beat him once.

In Armagh mb80b60 there is a Kerr family who are big into running and have their own sports shop. I'd say they should be able to help you out. Can't mind the name though. (The boy who owns it ran a 32 minute 10k at over 50). In Belfast pure running do gait analysis as do podium4sport though their trainers are right and dear.

Disappointing to see Mark English go out first round of worlds but bright future in him. Be interesting to see what Paul Pollock is made of in the marathon this weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 12, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
Running with the Kenyans is the book I was looking for but couldn;t get it.

Enjoyed Born to Run, more in the story to it and the characters. The technical parts on the theory of running not as much but still interesting in parts. The type I am, I looked up the characters in the book and it seems that a few of them weren't too impressed with how they where potrayed in the book, partiularly the main man Cabello and Jenni Shelton. Plus they planning a movie based on it but the writer doesn't seem too impressed with the screenplay for it.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on August 13, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
I keep getting pain behind my right knee when I run, very sore.  Right behind the knee cap and to the right side of the knee.

Went to GP, load of shite, told me to take pain killers.  Pain killers haven't worked.  Would a physio be able to do anything?

All help appreciated, its pissing me off thoroughly as my fitness was starting to get back to a decent standard.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 13, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: southdown on August 13, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
I keep getting pain behind my right knee when I run, very sore.  Right behind the knee cap and to the right side of the knee.

Went to GP, load of shite, told me to take pain killers.  Pain killers haven't worked.  Would a physio be able to do anything?

All help appreciated, its pissing me off thoroughly as my fitness was starting to get back to a decent standard.

Yeah Physio's what you need alright. With running your IT band can get very tight and knot up which can put undue pressure on your knee and cause a pain like that. A Physio and a foam roller should hopefully do the trick unless it's something else. Either way a Physio should be able to sort you out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 13, 2013, 12:18:39 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 13, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: southdown on August 13, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
I keep getting pain behind my right knee when I run, very sore.  Right behind the knee cap and to the right side of the knee.

Went to GP, load of shite, told me to take pain killers.  Pain killers haven't worked.  Would a physio be able to do anything?

All help appreciated, its pissing me off thoroughly as my fitness was starting to get back to a decent standard.

Yeah Physio's what you need alright. With running your IT band can get very tight and knot up which can put undue pressure on your knee and cause a pain like that. A Physio and a foam roller should hopefully do the trick unless it's something else. Either way a Physio should be able to sort you out.

These are god send but to start with or after a run they are torture devices, amazing things
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on August 13, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
Anyone have bruised ribs before? I hurt mine last week playing soccer and I aggravated the injury yesterday by going running. I'll have to give it a week or two before I run again. Anyone know if cycling or exercise bike would be okay?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on August 13, 2013, 01:09:05 PM
top advice, thanks very much.  Foam roller ordered, hopefully do the job.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2013, 12:13:06 AM
Looking to do "The Wall" in the Mournes/Silent Valley in October, looks serious, 3k run 20k cycle 9k ascent/descent of Slieve Donard 25k cycle and finish off with a 15k run!! best times are 5hs worst 7hs. Anyone done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Back to week 1 again. Attempt number 4.  ::)

I'll run a 5k yet if it f*cking kills me.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 17, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Back to week 1 again. Attempt number 4.  ::)

I'll run a 5k yet if it f*cking kills me.

Good man muppet you'll do it.
I've run half a dozen 5k's now and could only do 30 seconds running when I started. Ran a 7k last night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 18, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
Week 2 done 39 miles in total with 15 done this morning, good steady pace but finished strong with two 7.30 miles.

Mileage upped this week and 5 runs to fit in. Busy week on top of it and big function in the club next Saturday night, so long run will have to be done on Saturday.

Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on August 18, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
Does anyone know about entry etc. for the Dublin Half Marathon ? It's on the Saturday before the Football final in Phoenix Park. Has anyone run it before and is it well organised etc. ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 18, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on August 18, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
Does anyone know about entry etc. for the Dublin Half Marathon ? It's on the Saturday before the Football final in Phoenix Park. Has anyone run it before and is it well organised etc. ?

It was my first (and to date only) half marathon (I did it in 2011).  It was a great event, def well organised as it is one of the lead-in events to the marathon itself and organised by Dublin Marathon.  Numbers and chips all posted out in advance, shuttle buses into the park, well-identifiable pacers, nice area at the finish line with stands and catering.  It was a great weekend to be in Dublin and I managed to hook it in with the AIF. 
I take it you know that the Belfast half marathon is on the day of the final - really bad scheduling IMO with the Dublin race at the same time. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2013, 10:45:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

I've the Garmin, great piece of technology, brilliant for pace, distance and you can buy the heart monitor with it also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 21, 2013, 09:51:02 AM
I'd check out whether u can get the HRM, not all the garmins are compatible
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
my son goes running with omagh harriers twice a week while i wait in the car and have a wee snooze, so the guilt has got the better of me and i started the nhs 5k podcast last week. the good thing about the podcast it gives novices like me structure, i started at week four and so far so good.

lidl have running gear on sale tomorrow, should i get the trousers and compression socks or will i look like a complete newbie

Lidl (http://www.lidl-ni.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-52CD7953-52468AB8/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/index_32961.htm)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 21, 2013, 11:43:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

I've a Garmin 205 (i think it is), its an older model and a lump but its great for planning and controlling your runs. The garmins are very reliable and easy to work. If you going to stay at the running and push on it will be very useful. Some runs, I'd not use it but that would be where you not worrying on time and know the route.

Quote from: gerry on August 21, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
my son goes running with omagh harriers twice a week while i wait in the car and have a wee snooze, so the guilt has got the better of me and i started the nhs 5k podcast last week. the good thing about the podcast it gives novices like me structure, i started at week four and so far so good.

lidl have running gear on sale tomorrow, should i get the trousers and compression socks or will i look like a complete newbie

Lidl (http://www.lidl-ni.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-52CD7953-52468AB8/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/index_32961.htm)

I'd have a few bits of gear from lidl - running tops, socks, tights etc. Don't use as much of it in this weather but in the colder weather/winter its great and very popular with runners. Its fairly decent gear.

You'll look grand. I use the compression socks, not as much for the impact during a run but in past I'd have suffered with the calves after runs, the socks seem to have sorted this out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 21, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 21, 2013, 11:43:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

I've a Garmin 205 (i think it is), its an older model and a lump but its great for planning and controlling your runs. The garmins are very reliable and easy to work. If you going to stay at the running and push on it will be very useful. Some runs, I'd not use it but that would be where you not worrying on time and know the route.

Quote from: gerry on August 21, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
my son goes running with omagh harriers twice a week while i wait in the car and have a wee snooze, so the guilt has got the better of me and i started the nhs 5k podcast last week. the good thing about the podcast it gives novices like me structure, i started at week four and so far so good.

lidl have running gear on sale tomorrow, should i get the trousers and compression socks or will i look like a complete newbie

Lidl (http://www.lidl-ni.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-52CD7953-52468AB8/lidl_ni_ie/hs.xsl/index_32961.htm)

I'd have a few bits of gear from lidl - running tops, socks, tights etc. Don't use as much of it in this weather but in the colder weather/winter its great and very popular with runners. Its fairly decent gear.

You'll look grand. I use the compression socks, not as much for the impact during a run but in past I'd have suffered with the calves after runs, the socks seem to have sorted this out.

That's a sale for Lidl that they mightn't have otherwise got. I'm getting slight twinges in the calf area and don't want it to develop and wondered if the compression socks would help. Must take a trip over to Lidl in the morning so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on August 21, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Foam roller seems to be working for my knee pain, painful to use though.

Forget these Garmin jobs, I have a free app on my phone that does all that a Garmin does.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2013, 06:58:53 PM
Quote from: southdown on August 21, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Foam roller seems to be working for my knee pain, painful to use though.

Forget these Garmin jobs, I have a free app on my phone that does all that a Garmin does.

The apps on the phone are grand but I have a Galaxy S4 and is very awkward on a arm strap.
I like listening to music while running and have a little ipod shuffle for that so I thought a watch would suit better for gps readings than a big brick of a phone strapped to my arm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Been running a quare bit lately but 2 days ago my calf muscles were aching (sting-like) and still are 2 days later - same route, distance and gutties.

What may have caused that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Been running a quare bit lately but 2 days ago my calf muscles were aching (sting-like) and still are 2 days later - same route, distance and gutties.

What may have caused that?

Lay off the burgers!! have you stretched properly? or possibly over doing it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 22, 2013, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Been running a quare bit lately but 2 days ago my calf muscles were aching (sting-like) and still are 2 days later - same route, distance and gutties.

What may have caused that?

O'Neill - every now and then you come out with great terms/phrases that I'd only ever have heard from my Tyrone mother and her family/friends and they're just class. Gutties is a gem. A lot of people wouldn't have a clue what that means (though they'd probably guess from the context).

Had a cracker of a run this morning. Progress had levelled off a few weeks ago due to not feeling 100% but booted it round his morning. Hoping to do a 4 mile race Sunday and defo doing the 5k Pink Run Sat week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on August 22, 2013, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Been running a quare bit lately but 2 days ago my calf muscles were aching (sting-like) and still are 2 days later - same route, distance and gutties.

What may have caused that?

Lay off the burgers!! have you stretched properly? or possibly over doing it.

Stretching is an eejit's game.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on August 23, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

just bought garmin 910xt forerunner with heart monitor. meant to be a good job!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on August 23, 2013, 01:06:22 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Been running a quare bit lately but 2 days ago my calf muscles were aching (sting-like) and still are 2 days later - same route, distance and gutties.

What may have caused that?

Have you tried a foam roller?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 23, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
These foam rollers seem to be the cure for all ills. Maybe we should send a box of them to Leinster House? Suppose the folls there wouldn't know how to use them unless their party leader told them how to...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 23, 2013, 08:27:31 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 23, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

just bought garmin 910xt forerunner with heart monitor. meant to be a good job!

Would want to be the job for nearly €300!

I bought the Nike+ one in the end as I already use the Nike+ app and software.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on August 23, 2013, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2013, 08:27:31 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 23, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 20, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Anyone have a Garmin Forerunner 10? Was thinking of getting one, only need something basic and can get this for under €100. The Galaxy s4 is too big to have strapped to the arm and I find it very awkward when running.
Was also looking at the Nike plus gps watch but they are a bit more expensive.

just bought garmin 910xt forerunner with heart monitor. meant to be a good job!

Would want to be the job for nearly €300!

I bought the Nike+ one in the end as I already use the Nike+ app and software.

No way was I pay that money! Bought it off a friend for £150, still expensive enough! Injured at the minute so can't get using it ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2013, 09:11:26 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
These foam rollers seem to be the cure for all ills. Maybe we should send a box of them to Leinster House? Suppose the folls there wouldn't know how to use them unless their party leader told them how to...

They would probably use them for their hair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 11:17:10 PM
First Parkrun in a while, haven't run since July as hamstring been giving me some hassle for a while, getting ready for next week so thought I'd blast it out yesterday. Managed to do it in 21.24. Was pleased enough as I haven't done any running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 02, 2013, 07:52:25 AM
Week 4 done. 48 miles in total. Done 19 miles yesterday and they went really well, averaged 8min miles with a slow start but finished very strong, last 5 miles were about 7.40m pace into a decent head wind.

Legs not too bad this morning, miles drop a bit this week for recovery.

Getting there slowly but surely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Count 10 on September 02, 2013, 08:19:24 AM
Feed of stout and a curry....ran to the toilet...phew...damn near splashed myself! ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 02, 2013, 08:54:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 11:17:10 PM
First Parkrun in a while, haven't run since July as hamstring been giving me some hassle for a while, getting ready for next week so thought I'd blast it out yesterday. Managed to do it in 21.24. Was pleased enough as I haven't done any running.
I was the same on Saturday, first one since mid-July - and I managed to do my second slowest time ever.  But it's the psychological effect, so I was happy I turned up.  It amazes me how much my aerobic fitness declines with four or five weeks of not running. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WeeDonns on September 02, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
For any of you maybe looking for something to aim for; The Drumragh 10k is on in just under 5weeks time on Sat 5th October from our clubrooms in Clanabogan, Omagh.

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The 4th Annual Drumragh 10k & 5k Fun Run/Walk will take place on Saturday 5th October 11am.

New 10k & 5k routes will be used this year

There will be a 10km (exact distance) road race with 'Championchip' timing and this year the 5km race will also have chip timing. Both races and 5k walk commence at 11am from the Clubrooms outside Omagh with refreshments afterwards.

Online registration is now open at the link below and will close on Thursday 3rd October with registration at the Clubrooms on Fri 4th October from 7.30 - 8.30pm and Saturday 5th October 9.30 - 10.40am prior to race commencing.
http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/Drumragh10KRun

More info on out Facebook page; https://www.facebook.com/DrumraghSarsfields/events
10k route here; http://gb.mapometer.com/running/route_3482239

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
My 5k times had starting going back up lately and I was getting very disheartened.
Went out tonight determined to set a good time(for me) and busted out a 25min 23 sec 5k beating my previous best by nearly 90 seconds.
Some buzz!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on September 02, 2013, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
My 5k times had starting going back up lately and I was getting very disheartened.
Went out tonight determined to set a good time(for me) and busted out a 25min 23 sec 5k beating my previous best by nearly 90 seconds.
Some buzz!

Well done LL don't get too hung up too much on the times as some days you feel better than others . 90 seconds is a fair whack off your time you must be still on a high with the pool .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
My 5k times had starting going back up lately and I was getting very disheartened.
Went out tonight determined to set a good time(for me) and busted out a 25min 23 sec 5k beating my previous best by nearly 90 seconds.
Some buzz!

Aye was going to say head out for a run after a win and you should break 25.22 ;)  But in fairness 90 seconds is serious over that shorter distance. would love to take 90 seconds off where I'm at at the minute (pool cnut :'()
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 02, 2013, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
My 5k times had starting going back up lately and I was getting very disheartened.
Went out tonight determined to set a good time(for me) and busted out a 25min 23 sec 5k beating my previous best by nearly 90 seconds.
Some buzz!

Well done LL don't get too hung up too much on the times as some days you feel better than others . 90 seconds is a fair whack off your time you must be still on a high with the pool .

If the Dubs had been beaten I would have ran a World Record time... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 05, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Anyone do the pink run in the Phoenix Park last Sat? Was your official (chip) time correct? Mine was definitely wrong.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 05, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Anyone do the pink run in the Phoenix Park last Sat? Was your official (chip) time correct? Mine was definitely wrong.

Not too many going to admit to that run :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 05, 2013, 12:01:19 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 05, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Anyone do the pink run in the Phoenix Park last Sat? Was your official (chip) time correct? Mine was definitely wrong.

Be interesting to see if they done it on gun start or chip start. Was there a mat at the start line? This would activate the chip as you ran over it. Otherwise all the chips would have been started at the same time. If it a big run with a lot of people, it could be a while before you crossed the start line and started your own watch.

I find this very fustrating in some runs and for people not using their own watches it can be confusing.

We hold a 5km every December and insist on a chip mat at the start so that people get accurate times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
The chips are a waste of time with no start mat.

Logistically I guess they make it easier to produce results but if you're having chip timing you should at least have start and finish mats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 05, 2013, 03:31:42 PM
There was a (red) mat at the start line. Results are given as race time and chip time, obviously the difference is how long it takes to get to the start. According to the official results I crossed the start 40 seconds after the race start while the woman beside me has a differential of almost 2 mins. That confirms my clocked time but it's hard to understand how it happened.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 05, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
Frustrating by the sounds of it seanie. I always flick the watch even if it's chipped just to be sure, force of habit at this stage.

Great to see more parkruns popping up. Due to be another one in Ardgillan castle estate outside Balbriggan and St Anne's Park in Raheny starting soon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Is that the one that starts saturday week BM? Sonia O'Sullivan at it I hear.

There are now 5 in Belfast and 7(I think) elsewhere in NI. 2 in Dublin so far and 1 in Cork I think.

Great wee event for getting people into the running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Is that the one that starts saturday week BM? Sonia O'Sullivan at it I hear.

There are now 5 in Belfast and 7(I think) elsewhere in NI. 2 in Dublin so far and 1 in Cork I think.

Great wee event for getting people into the running.

+1, I've been encouraging friends all the time, while I wouldn't be a regular it's great for leading up to other events as a gauge of sorts
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2013, 08:21:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Is that the one that starts saturday week BM? Sonia O'Sullivan at it I hear.

There are now 5 in Belfast and 7(I think) elsewhere in NI. 2 in Dublin so far and 1 in Cork I think.

Great wee event for getting people into the running.
Yep, I think the St Anne's one in Raheny is starting first, will be a good course and take the heat of Malahide who are getting crazy numbers every week. The Ardgillan one will be another few weeks I think, that's going to be a nasty course, some big climbs in that park!
There are 3 in Dublin already ITG, Malahide, Marlay Park and another in Lucan. Westport has one as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
The absolute max we get up here is 200+. Malahide looks mad but Dublin has a much more vibrant running scene so would expect bigger numbers. Forgot about westport and thought there were only two in dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2013, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
The absolute max we get up here is 200+. Malahide looks mad but Dublin has a much more vibrant running scene so would expect bigger numbers. Forgot about westport and thought there were only two in dublin.
Ah stop, there were 400+ in Malahide one week, the start is fairly narrow so it was mental from what I heard. There is another one is Cork too I hear. Great to see so many people getting out running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
The one in Lucan is just at the end of my road . Haven't done it yet but there seems to be a decent turn out most Saturdays. I really should do it seeing as it's so close to me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 06, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
The one in Lucan is just at the end of my road . Haven't done it yet but there seems to be a decent turn out most Saturdays. I really should do it seeing as it's so close to me!
Must tip down to it one weekend, I'll wear that grey united jersey..doing a pace making job for you, you'll run a some speed to get away from it due to it's vileness!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 06, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 06, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 06, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
The one in Lucan is just at the end of my road . Haven't done it yet but there seems to be a decent turn out most Saturdays. I really should do it seeing as it's so close to me!
Must tip down to it one weekend, I'll wear that grey united jersey..doing a pace making job for you, you'll run a some speed to get away from it due to it's vileness!

That grey United jersey.... sure he'd not be able to see you in it, isn't that what happened in southampton that day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on September 07, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
first time to run 4 mile tonight.   go me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 07, 2013, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 07, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
first time to run 4 mile tonight.   go me

How dob you find it compared to the cycling?
I've let the cycling slip lately as I've been enjoying the running so much.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on September 08, 2013, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 07, 2013, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 07, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
first time to run 4 mile tonight.   go me

How dob you find it compared to the cycling?
I've let the cycling slip lately as I've been enjoying the running so much.

i started the running to see if i could shift a few pounds to help me on the bike.  i didn't think i would enjoy the running as much as any previous running i done was on the treadmill and i found it both hard and boring.  aiming to do a 5 mile run an St Stephens day but i will see how it goes
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
Week No.Lostcount at this stage.

Was a nice week, classed as a recovery week on the plan, so had 42 miles to get through. Had a 9 mile run on Friday evening and broke in a new pair of runners which resulted in one beaut of a blister near the toes. Didn't bother with the 5 mile recovery run on Saturday to let it recover and was grand getting through the 16mile run yesterday.

3 tough weeks ahead with mileage increased and tougher runs in the plan. Still enjoying it though and counting down the weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 09, 2013, 10:05:17 AM
Some going Bingo.

I done my first 5mile (8k) at the weekend. I slowed it right down so I could last the distance (Oh matron!)
Is it best to forget about time when you are trying to increase distance? I was about 3 mins slower on my fastest 5k split times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2013, 10:05:17 AM
Some going Bingo.

I done my first 5mile (8k) at the weekend. I slowed it right down so I could last the distance (Oh matron!)
Is it best to forget about time when you are trying to increase distance? I was about 3 mins slower on my fastest 5k split times.

Personaly, I'd get the distance first and not worry too much about the time. Only natural that if you want to go longer that you have to build up to it. Get comfortable with the distance and then look at times. Generally I always try to finish strong that start fast and struggle home.

When you get the distance up and are comfortable, there is variations on the running that helps with speed - strides, intervals, hill runs etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 09, 2013, 02:05:41 PM

I use the Garmin 405 which is great but I ve been unable to access my account because I ve forgotten my password and I cant recover it because my old email account is banjaxed.

Anybody got any idea about how I can go about sorting this out? An email address I can contact?

All my training and races are recorded (including last years marathon stuff) and its doing my head in that I cant access it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 09, 2013, 02:09:12 PM
Tore the ankle ligaments recently so obviously the running is out the window for a while. Anyone any advice on keeping fit? Can swimming really burn more calories or is that a myth??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 09, 2013, 02:52:07 PM
Where do ye buy your running gear?
I've bought a ton of stuff off sportsdirect.com. Some of the Karrimor running gear is excellent imo and very cheap compared to Nike,Adidas etc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 09, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
Free Running in Newry is excellent and there is a place in Parnell Square in Dublin, both top notch, especially for footwear, i know the one in Dublin, all the staff have run at least 2 marathons each in there..............for tops and stuff, elverys and lifestyle sports..........or in your case LL, O Meara's camping... ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2013, 02:52:07 PM
Where do ye buy your running gear?
I've bought a ton of stuff off sportsdirect.com. Some of the Karrimor running gear is excellent imo and very cheap compared to Nike,Adidas etc

A mix of stuff really - for base layers or vests etc I've bought a right few from Lidl and they 100%. I'd have a few from football days as well for cold weather. Have socks from Lidl as well, again good stuff.
Footwear - last pair was bought in Amphianking in Ballymount Dublin, great service and fitting. I know what brand and make I like and the size, so I can buy them anywhere now.
Shorts - anywhere they on offer. Again look for the lightweight shorts with a small zip pocket at the back. Have skins compression shorts and swear by them.

Running tops - think I've only every bought 2. The rest and I'd have at least a dozen have been accumulated from various races and the like. Don't think I'll ever have to buy one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
Start fitness online and sweatshop for trainers and gear in general. Start fitness very good and they throw in free socks and stuff with certain purchases which saves you.

When you do enough races you'll have enough t-shirts to not need to buy any for training again.

Walter swimming would be a good calorie burner. Aqua jogging seems to be the thing of the moment for injury recovery. Certain swimming pools will have the suits. If you're in belfast the pec has them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 09, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2013, 02:52:07 PM
Where do ye buy your running gear?
I've bought a ton of stuff off sportsdirect.com. Some of the Karrimor running gear is excellent imo and very cheap compared to Nike,Adidas etc

A mix of stuff really - for base layers or vests etc I've bought a right few from Lidl and they 100%. I'd have a few from football days as well for cold weather. Have socks from Lidl as well, again good stuff.
Footwear - last pair was bought in Amphianking in Ballymount Dublin, great service and fitting. I know what brand and make I like and the size, so I can buy them anywhere now.
Shorts - anywhere they on offer. Again look for the lightweight shorts with a small zip pocket at the back. Have skins compression shorts and swear by them.

Running tops - think I've only every bought 2. The rest and I'd have at least a dozen have been accumulated from various races and the like. Don't think I'll ever have to buy one.

If  had a £100 to spend on sports gear for running, £95 would be on the trainers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 09, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
Start fitness online and sweatshop for trainers and gear in general. Start fitness very good and they throw in free socks and stuff with certain purchases which saves you.

When you do enough races you'll have enough t-shirts to not need to buy any for training again.

Walter swimming would be a good calorie burner. Aqua jogging seems to be the thing of the moment for injury recovery. Certain swimming pools will have the suits. If you're in belfast the pec has them.

Cheers Imtommygunn!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 14, 2013, 07:35:01 AM
Did my first Parkrun this morning (Brisbane), jaysus they're a great job!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Week 6 or so to go

48 miles this week that started badly but finished great.

Wednesday was first VO2 session and found it very tough. 10miles with 5x1km at 5k pace with half running time as rest in between. Hadn't done such hard,fast runs in a while. Done the 5 1kms at 3.55 pace near end of the rest. Not sure if I wasn't ready for that pace or hasn't fuel onboard but felt like crap after it and struggled last mile home. Was worried about the weekend miles.

But they went super, 12miles Friday, 6 yesterday with 6x100m strides and 15 miles today at MP. Woke up to wind and rain but was determined to get it done. Got soaked but thoroughly enjoyed it, I like the rain. Averaged 7.43 for the run and was delighted. Felt I'd more in tank.

Big week ahead, 55 miles with 20 next Sunday.

Brilliant tv this morning with finish on Great North run and the Triathlon in London.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.

Super stuff, one of my buddies who I trained for Connemara with is in as well. He giving Dublin a miss to focus on it. Will be a very emotional but celebratory atmosphere I imagine.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.

Super stuff, one of my buddies who I trained for Connemara with is in as well. He giving Dublin a miss to focus on it. Will be a very emotional but celebratory atmosphere I imagine.
Ya, should be a class atmosphere hopefully. Happy days, I'm sure there will be a good few going over from Ireland for it this year. Haven't a clue re City itself and where to stay and general info but plenty of time for that yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.

Super stuff, one of my buddies who I trained for Connemara with is in as well. He giving Dublin a miss to focus on it. Will be a very emotional but celebratory atmosphere I imagine.
Ya, should be a class atmosphere hopefully. Happy days, I'm sure there will be a good few going over from Ireland for it this year. Haven't a clue re City itself and where to stay and general info but plenty of time for that yet!

Just noticed the date, Easter weekend, I'll be Las Vegas that week. I'll be cheering ye on from there!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.

Super stuff, one of my buddies who I trained for Connemara with is in as well. He giving Dublin a miss to focus on it. Will be a very emotional but celebratory atmosphere I imagine.
Ya, should be a class atmosphere hopefully. Happy days, I'm sure there will be a good few going over from Ireland for it this year. Haven't a clue re City itself and where to stay and general info but plenty of time for that yet!

Just noticed the date, Easter weekend, I'll be Las Vegas that week. I'll be cheering ye on from there!
Ha, Vegas for a week takes more out of the body than a marathon for sure! We should be cheering you on instead!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 09:27:27 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 15, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Got into Boston Marathon next April 21st.....delighted. Marathon training through December...January and February...gulp. Cold thinking about it.

Super stuff, one of my buddies who I trained for Connemara with is in as well. He giving Dublin a miss to focus on it. Will be a very emotional but celebratory atmosphere I imagine.
Ya, should be a class atmosphere hopefully. Happy days, I'm sure there will be a good few going over from Ireland for it this year. Haven't a clue re City itself and where to stay and general info but plenty of time for that yet!

Just noticed the date, Easter weekend, I'll be Las Vegas that week. I'll be cheering ye on from there!
Ha, Vegas for a week takes more out of the body than a marathon for sure! We should be cheering you on instead!!

Haha, appreciate the support!
Title: Belfast Half Marathon
Post by: No1 on September 16, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
Anyone doing the Belfast Half on Sunday? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on September 17, 2013, 09:13:05 AM
Iv started getting a problem over the last mile or so of every run.  I cant feel my feet, they go numb.  Iv tried loosening my laces but no joy.  A lad in work tells me it is to do with not stretching your butt cheek muscles, can anyone advise?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 17, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Fair play LL, thats mighty going
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Cold tea on September 17, 2013, 09:28:45 AM
I have just started running, I use to run when I was younger but haven't run as in any distance for 20 years.  I have started off with a few miles 3 times a week, I don't want to kill myself but would like to do more.  Not sure what is best, longer runs or more nights - any advice?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 17, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

You're really flying, fair play to you. I'm only up to 6k, hoping to do my first 10k the first weekend of October. My motivation levels dipped a little and the weather is not helping but I had a good 6k run over the weekend to put me back on track. If I did 60 mins for 10k I'd be chuffed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!

Doing rightly, 30 lengths is half mile so it's always tough if you're not a natural swimmer like me. What time you do it in?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 17, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

You're really flying, fair play to you. I'm only up to 6k, hoping to do my first 10k the first weekend of October. My motivation levels dipped a little and the weather is not helping but I had a good 6k run over the weekend to put me back on track. If I did 60 mins for 10k I'd be chuffed.

I think it's helping that I absolutely love it and can't wait to get back out running.
I actually like running in the rain so the weather isn't a problem for me yet,maybe when it starts getting cold I'll be less motivated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2013, 10:18:59 AM
Not doing it no1 but wish I was. The towpath should be some fun for the masses - could be interesting.

LL I think you have the running bug too - very addictive.

Southdown never heard of the numb feet thing... Sounds almost like blood flow. If you're not self conscious maybe try compression socks??

Cold tea build up the distance at a slow pace. Then when you're fitter put more runs in...

Struggling with an injury at the minute which is frustrating. Just can't shake it off. Managing slow miles but no more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 17, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!

Doing rightly, 30 lengths is half mile so it's always tough if you're not a natural swimmer like me. What time you do it in?

No need to boast!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!

Doing rightly, 30 lengths is half mile so it's always tough if you're not a natural swimmer like me. What time you do it in?

Certainly not a natural swimmer. Done 40 in around 35 minutes yesterday. 20 then a break of a minute or so then another 20. No idea if thats good or bad to be honest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Well advanced with the marathon training with an 18 miler down for Thursday.

Problem is I ve bit of a sore throat coming on, sore ears too. A doc. once told me that you should never train with a sore throat or temperature. What do others do? If I take a break from the training at this stage I may as well kiss the marathon goodbye. The sore throat is an occupational hazard which thankfully I managed to dodge last year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 17, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!

Doing rightly, 30 lengths is half mile so it's always tough if you're not a natural swimmer like me. What time you do it in?

No need to boast!

I'm not a natural swimmer was what I meant!! lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
For anyone with an ankle/knee injury I find the swimming a great way of keeping fit/strengthening it during rehab. Near died in my first pool session after 30 lengths. 2 weeks later I'm up to 40 and loving it!!

Doing rightly, 30 lengths is half mile so it's always tough if you're not a natural swimmer like me. What time you do it in?

Certainly not a natural swimmer. Done 40 in around 35 minutes yesterday. 20 then a break of a minute or so then another 20. No idea if thats good or bad to be honest.

Yeah thats the way to do it, they say (the natural swimmers lol) 20 at pace break 20 normal break for 45 seconds then hard again. Mixing it up with breast stroke, I can't breast stroke at all (only with the missus lol) so I'm full pelt with the front crawl, that's me target this year to sort that out and improve my open water swims. It's a great work out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 17, 2013, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 17, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

You're really flying, fair play to you. I'm only up to 6k, hoping to do my first 10k the first weekend of October. My motivation levels dipped a little and the weather is not helping but I had a good 6k run over the weekend to put me back on track. If I did 60 mins for 10k I'd be chuffed.

I think it's helping that I absolutely love it and can't wait to get back out running.
I actually like running in the rain so the weather isn't a problem for me yet,maybe when it starts getting cold I'll be less motivated!

Yeah I suppose I should have said the evenings closing in moreso than the weather. The streetlighting around the village I live in limits the distances you can do. Don't mind the rain myself either.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Well advanced with the marathon training with an 18 miler down for Thursday.

Problem is I ve bit of a sore throat coming on, sore ears too. A doc. once told me that you should never train with a sore throat or temperature. What do others do? If I take a break from the training at this stage I may as well kiss the marathon goodbye. The sore throat is an occupational hazard which thankfully I managed to dodge last year.

I'd take the Doc's advice. In the early summer, there was a local 10k on, tight one on trails. I had a poor chest going into it and slight temp. But felt good enough to run. Ran it and rather than taking it easy, I busted myself and got new PB. Felt grand but by 9 that night I was in a ball in the bed. Doctors next day and missed work for 2 days. Was totally floored and didn't run for near 3 weeks.

A few days rest to clear up whatever you have will be well spent. What ever it needs. Any marathon training plan or book will always say listen to your body and rest. If you miss, just continue on and don't feel the pressure to do more or fit in what you missed out. Is it dublin you doing? Still plenty of time to get the 20 mile runs in and as you at 18 anyway, you're well on the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 17, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Well advanced with the marathon training with an 18 miler down for Thursday.

Problem is I ve bit of a sore throat coming on, sore ears too. A doc. once told me that you should never train with a sore throat or temperature. What do others do? If I take a break from the training at this stage I may as well kiss the marathon goodbye. The sore throat is an occupational hazard which thankfully I managed to dodge last year.

I'd take the Doc's advice. In the early summer, there was a local 10k on, tight one on trails. I had a poor chest going into it and slight temp. But felt good enough to run. Ran it and rather than taking it easy, I busted myself and got new PB. Felt grand but by 9 that night I was in a ball in the bed. Doctors next day and missed work for 2 days. Was totally floored and didn't run for near 3 weeks.

A few days rest to clear up whatever you have will be well spent. What ever it needs. Any marathon training plan or book will always say listen to your body and rest. If you miss, just continue on and don't feel the pressure to do more or fit in what you missed out. Is it dublin you doing? Still plenty of time to get the 20 mile runs in and as you at 18 anyway, you're well on the road.

Yeah Dublin. I was hoping to do 18 this week and I ve entered the 3/4 in Athlone as my last long run ( to run rather than race). It s what I did last year and it worked for me. Tapered off after Athlone. Found I got the distance ok.

The throat is more of a hoarseness than infection to be honest and don't have a temperature. Might do 6/7 easy miles this evening to see how I get on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:35:59 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Well advanced with the marathon training with an 18 miler down for Thursday.

Problem is I ve bit of a sore throat coming on, sore ears too. A doc. once told me that you should never train with a sore throat or temperature. What do others do? If I take a break from the training at this stage I may as well kiss the marathon goodbye. The sore throat is an occupational hazard which thankfully I managed to dodge last year.

I'd take the Doc's advice. In the early summer, there was a local 10k on, tight one on trails. I had a poor chest going into it and slight temp. But felt good enough to run. Ran it and rather than taking it easy, I busted myself and got new PB. Felt grand but by 9 that night I was in a ball in the bed. Doctors next day and missed work for 2 days. Was totally floored and didn't run for near 3 weeks.

A few days rest to clear up whatever you have will be well spent. What ever it needs. Any marathon training plan or book will always say listen to your body and rest. If you miss, just continue on and don't feel the pressure to do more or fit in what you missed out. Is it dublin you doing? Still plenty of time to get the 20 mile runs in and as you at 18 anyway, you're well on the road.

Yeah Dublin. I was hoping to do 18 this week and I ve entered the 3/4 in Athlone as my last long run ( to run rather than race). It s what I did last year and it worked for me. Tapered off after Athlone. Found I got the distance ok.

The throat is more of a hoarseness than infection to be honest and don't have a temperature. Might do 6/7 easy miles this evening to see how I get on?

I've done 19 so far, have first 20 this weekend and another 20 two weeks after that before the taper. If it worked for you last year, it should do the trick again.

The way it was put to me re training when ill or under weather, is that your body is already fighting to beat the infection/illness or whatever it is, you mightn't know it but putting in a strenuous workout on top of that just empties the tank and your body has nothing to use to recover and fight the good fight. The bank is empty but you still spending.

But you'll know yourself. Easy miles might give some indication, the recovery be the key indicator.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 17, 2013, 11:49:48 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:35:59 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Well advanced with the marathon training with an 18 miler down for Thursday.

Problem is I ve bit of a sore throat coming on, sore ears too. A doc. once told me that you should never train with a sore throat or temperature. What do others do? If I take a break from the training at this stage I may as well kiss the marathon goodbye. The sore throat is an occupational hazard which thankfully I managed to dodge last year.

I'd take the Doc's advice. In the early summer, there was a local 10k on, tight one on trails. I had a poor chest going into it and slight temp. But felt good enough to run. Ran it and rather than taking it easy, I busted myself and got new PB. Felt grand but by 9 that night I was in a ball in the bed. Doctors next day and missed work for 2 days. Was totally floored and didn't run for near 3 weeks.

A few days rest to clear up whatever you have will be well spent. What ever it needs. Any marathon training plan or book will always say listen to your body and rest. If you miss, just continue on and don't feel the pressure to do more or fit in what you missed out. Is it dublin you doing? Still plenty of time to get the 20 mile runs in and as you at 18 anyway, you're well on the road.

Yeah Dublin. I was hoping to do 18 this week and I ve entered the 3/4 in Athlone as my last long run ( to run rather than race). It s what I did last year and it worked for me. Tapered off after Athlone. Found I got the distance ok.

The throat is more of a hoarseness than infection to be honest and don't have a temperature. Might do 6/7 easy miles this evening to see how I get on?

I've done 19 so far, have first 20 this weekend and another 20 two weeks after that before the taper. If it worked for you last year, it should do the trick again.

The way it was put to me re training when ill or under weather, is that your body is already fighting to beat the infection/illness or whatever it is, you mightn't know it but putting in a strenuous workout on top of that just empties the tank and your body has nothing to use to recover and fight the good fight. The bank is empty but you still spending.

But you'll know yourself. Easy miles might give some indication, the recovery be the key indicator.

Exactly what I preach myself. I never believed in this sweating it out of ye nonsense. The aforementioned doc. told me that the same bug that causes a sore throat can cause inflammation around the linings of the heart and you wouldn't be even be aware of that. He seemed to suggest that some instances of SADS were related to this.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 17, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Fair play LL.

I have to start again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Not sure if this is an old wives tale but I heard once that you should never go running in the fog (apart from the obvious dangers of not being seen) but that it can be bad for your chest as fog traps any toxins in the air. Any truth in this? Anyone ever hear of it before??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 17, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.
Savage stuff. Keep her lit...fair play to ya.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Thanks lads.
How much of a step up is it from where I am now with 1 x 10k and several 5ks under my belt to running a half marathon.?

Am I aiming to high to soon? I'm sure it takes a fair bit of training for the half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Thanks lads.
How much of a step up is it from where I am now with 1 x 10k and several 5ks under my belt to running a half marathon.?

Am I aiming to high to soon? I'm sure it takes a fair bit of training for the half marathon.

Firstly, fair play. Its quite addictive when you start.

As some-one who was in your position not too long I might be able to answer this!

I ran my first 5k about say August 2011 years ago, done a bit of biking before that for a few months. I done my first half marathon about 9 months after that, first marathon about 5 months after that. And i'm no natural athlete - far from it, about 5ft 8ish, overweight (still carry waist weight) and have absolutely no core/six pack. I'd have very poor flexibility and couldn't bench press the bar, never mind put weights on it.

The moral of that wee rant is that anyone can do a half, or even a full. Once you set your mind to it and address it the right way. One thing in my favour is that I have always had a good engine and the ignorance to match it, it suits the long runs.

The last of the halfs for this "season" are coming up but no reason why you couldn't do any of the spring halfs.

A 10k is half way to a half marathon, not a huge leap considering you've gone to 10k in a few months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2013, 06:11:51 PM
LL the key thing is to take it progressively but a half marathon is perfectly doable. Running can be harsh on the body so it's important to bed into it and not go gung-ho or you won't last too long but looking at your training you look to be going about it the right way so go about it progressively and no reason why you couldn't do a half.

You could do a half of getting up to 10-12 miles as your longest run. Very achievable. 10% a week increase max is  the guideline which is recommended to avoid injury.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:16:26 PM
Sitting here reading all this talk is making me quite envious.

Ran a half marathon at the end of July but knew straight away something was up. Picked up a slight niggle whilst playing 5-a-side months and months ago after i stretched too far when chasing a stray pass but it always seemed to ease off after a few days so ignored it. But Christ, the half was tough. Finished in just over the 2hr mark which is no disgrace but it was the toughest run i've ever had to do. Was in pain from the 1st minute but stubborness/stupidity made me complete it.

I think i've pulled some sort of muscle in my abdomen. Its roughly round where your belt buckle is and seems to be right inside my core. It can travel up or down, depending on the activity. Even coughing and sneezing hurts. A lot. I've done a few slow 5ks since and a bit of easy football and whilst it not too bad when i'm taking part i really struggle once i've cooled down.

Went to the docs but no joy so need to book in with a proper physio and see if they can tell me anything. I've tried to rest it for as long as i can but can see the weight creeping back on and i miss being active.

So the marathon is obviously a no-no as are a few other longer races i had planned. Gonna try and keep up the slow parkruns just to keep myself ticking over but Jesus it's so frustrating.

Anyone heard of anything similiar?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 17, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
Does it sound like a hernia?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
Quote from: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:16:26 PM
Sitting here reading all this talk is making me quite envious.

Ran a half marathon at the end of July but knew straight away something was up. Picked up a slight niggle whilst playing 5-a-side months and months ago after i stretched too far when chasing a stray pass but it always seemed to ease off after a few days so ignored it. But Christ, the half was tough. Finished in just over the 2hr mark which is no disgrace but it was the toughest run i've ever had to do. Was in pain from the 1st minute but stubborness/stupidity made me complete it.

I think i've pulled some sort of muscle in my abdomen. Its roughly round where your belt buckle is and seems to be right inside my core. It can travel up or down, depending on the activity. Even coughing and sneezing hurts. A lot. I've done a few slow 5ks since and a bit of easy football and whilst it not too bad when i'm taking part i really struggle once i've cooled down.

Went to the docs but no joy so need to book in with a proper physio and see if they can tell me anything. I've tried to rest it for as long as i can but can see the weight creeping back on and i miss being active.

So the marathon is obviously a no-no as are a few other longer races i had planned. Gonna try and keep up the slow parkruns just to keep myself ticking over but Jesus it's so frustrating.

Anyone heard of anything similiar?

Get a second opinion. I was troubled with shooting pain in that area. Turned out to be a hernia. Very quick op, in and out in one day. Took me a while to get back running though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
No obvious swelling or lumps to suggest a hernia. It has been mentioned by a few people.

Pain can stretch from one side of the body to the other and up into my waist and down to almost my knee.

Even sitting here now i can feel it being uncomfortable.

Doctor was very blase about it so hopefully the physio may be a bit more attentive.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Thanks lads.
How much of a step up is it from where I am now with 1 x 10k and several 5ks under my belt to running a half marathon.?

Am I aiming to high to soon? I'm sure it takes a fair bit of training for the half marathon.

Firstly, fair play. Its quite addictive when you start.

As some-one who was in your position not too long I might be able to answer this!

I ran my first 5k about say August 2011 years ago, done a bit of biking before that for a few months. I done my first half marathon about 9 months after that, first marathon about 5 months after that. And i'm no natural athlete - far from it, about 5ft 8ish, overweight (still carry waist weight) and have absolutely no core/six pack. I'd have very poor flexibility and couldn't bench press the bar, never mind put weights on it.

The moral of that wee rant is that anyone can do a half, or even a full. Once you set your mind to it and address it the right way. One thing in my favour is that I have always had a good engine and the ignorance to match it, it suits the long runs.

The last of the halfs for this "season" are coming up but no reason why you couldn't do any of the spring halfs.

A 10k is half way to a half marathon, not a huge leap considering you've gone to 10k in a few months.

Well I'd certainly have the ignorance to match yours  ;)

I use to be very fit as I played a lot of soccer at a highish enough level until I was about 29.
That's 5 years ago and haven't done much since,but I think that being involved in sport previously has helped me get back into getting fit.Like riding a bike I suppose.

As part of my running I am also doing a 0 to 100 press ups program and can do about 60 without stopping right now and I do about 100 to 150 everyday in about 10mins. The program is designed for you to get to 100 press ups without stopping.A bit like the couch to 5k but for press ups!.
I really think this is helping me with the running as I have read that push ups are a great way to strengthen the core.Maybe it's all in the head but I think it's helping anyway  :)

Really have the running bug now,nearly so much I am regretting spending several hundred quid on a new bike a few months ago as I haven't taken it out of the shed in weeks  ::)

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2013, 06:11:51 PM
LL the key thing is to take it progressively but a half marathon is perfectly doable. Running can be harsh on the body so it's important to bed into it and not go gung-ho or you won't last too long but looking at your training you look to be going about it the right way so go about it progressively and no reason why you couldn't do a half.

You could do a half of getting up to 10-12 miles as your longest run. Very achievable. 10% a week increase max is  the guideline which is recommended to avoid injury.
Cheers Tommy,would love to be able do a marathon some day but will go for half marathon next.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
No obvious swelling or lumps to suggest a hernia. It has been mentioned by a few people.

Pain can stretch from one side of the body to the other and up into my waist and down to almost my knee.

Even sitting here now i can feel it being uncomfortable.

Doctor was very blase about it so hopefully the physio may be a bit more attentive.
Quote from: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
No obvious swelling or lumps to suggest a hernia. It has been mentioned by a few people.

Pain can stretch from one side of the body to the other and up into my waist and down to almost my knee.

Even sitting here now i can feel it being uncomfortable.

Doctor was very blase about it so hopefully the physio may be a bit more attentive.

I had no lumps or bumps myself. Just pain, which worried me a lot. My own doc at home was very blasé and infact it was a doc at university in England that discovered it. Get a second look if the physio doesn't say much.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 17, 2013, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Not sure if this is an old wives tale but I heard once that you should never go running in the fog (apart from the obvious dangers of not being seen) but that it can be bad for your chest as fog traps any toxins in the air. Any truth in this? Anyone ever hear of it before??

That would be true. In the case of a temperature inversion any smoke will be trapped close to the ground. Cold winter weather and coal fires would cause a smog. Not sure about the fog trapping toxins, just that any toxic gases will be in the mix. Unless you re in a built-up area it doesn t matter. You re only breathing in water droplets instead of water vapour in a pure fog.

That cold winter freeze-up 2010 or 2011, a gang of us ran several times in dark with headtorches. Sometimes the temperatures were <-10. We were breathing in tiny ice crystals in fact. It probably was harder to breath but it was great craic. We were told we were nuts and would get a pneumonia but nobody got ill. We ran on forest tracks and coal smoke and car fumes would not have been an issue.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 18, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 17, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
No obvious swelling or lumps to suggest a hernia. It has been mentioned by a few people.

Pain can stretch from one side of the body to the other and up into my waist and down to almost my knee.

Even sitting here now i can feel it being uncomfortable.

Doctor was very blase about it so hopefully the physio may be a bit more attentive.
Quote from: bamboo on September 17, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
No obvious swelling or lumps to suggest a hernia. It has been mentioned by a few people.

Pain can stretch from one side of the body to the other and up into my waist and down to almost my knee.

Even sitting here now i can feel it being uncomfortable.

Doctor was very blase about it so hopefully the physio may be a bit more attentive.

I had no lumps or bumps myself. Just pain, which worried me a lot. My own doc at home was very blasé and infact it was a doc at university in England that discovered it. Get a second look if the physio doesn't say much.

Impossible to get a hernia around the belt buckle - it d be down in your balls.

You ve probably got a dose of osteitis pubis ( inflamation of the pubic bone - which is where the buckle rests).
abdominable muscles tie up there like a spider's web. It ll clear up but physio wont do it ant good but at least it s not a hernia and surgery. If it s any consolatin, a lad playing in AI final on Sunday had this sidline him for the guts of a year. You must have been waring the abs in the gym?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on September 18, 2013, 07:37:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 17, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Really have the running bug now,nearly so much I am regretting spending several hundred quid on a new bike a few months ago as I haven't taken it out of the shed in weeks  ::)



Well done LL. I will give you 50 yoyos for the Carrera, I'll even pick it up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bluenosebandit on September 18, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

6 weeks is plenty of time to get ready for a 20k, it will be a struggle but you will be able to do it.
With regards the flu, ive done a few marathons and had similar problems with being run down and getting flus and colds. Recommended to take plenty of vitamin c and Beetroot juice, its a natural creatine. You can get it in tesco, doesnt taste great, but its like anything, if its freezing cold its drinkable.
For your breathing, you should try nasal strips, they are supposed to promote breathing and increase nasal capacity, Robbie Fowler used to wear them as he had a very bad breathing problem
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

Deeler have you looked at varying your running?
Say knock out 20k some saturday at a slow slow pace, whatever pace you need to get you through. Then the next session look at doing maybe 1k fast, 2-3mins recovery x 3, maybe another session do hill repeats, nothing too steep and maybe only 400m x 10, that'll get your times down
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

Deeler have you looked at varying your running?
Say knock out 20k some saturday at a slow slow pace, whatever pace you need to get you through. Then the next session look at doing maybe 1k fast, 2-3mins recovery x 3, maybe another session do hill repeats, nothing too steep and maybe only 400m x 10, that'll get your times down
Cheers for that. Have varied it a bit, like when I try the longer runs I start out slow . Thing is though, whether I start out slow or (relatively) fast, I end up levelling out at 5'35 - 5'45 / km. Only difference is whether I get there after 1km or 3! Usually struggle on then up to 6/7 kms.

Will try some of the 1km runs with intervals and see how that goes. Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: bluenosebandit on September 18, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

6 weeks is plenty of time to get ready for a 20k, it will be a struggle but you will be able to do it.
With regards the flu, ive done a few marathons and had similar problems with being run down and getting flus and colds. Recommended to take plenty of vitamin c and Beetroot juice, its a natural creatine. You can get it in tesco, doesnt taste great, but its like anything, if its freezing cold its drinkable.
For your breathing, you should try nasal strips, they are supposed to promote breathing and increase nasal capacity, Robbie Fowler used to wear them as he had a very bad breathing problem

thanks for the positivity. Should be ok cold/flu-wise. Its coming into spring here (in Perth) and I won't be getting and staying wet again. Might try the strips.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 18, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: bluenosebandit on September 18, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

6 weeks is plenty of time to get ready for a 20k, it will be a struggle but you will be able to do it.
With regards the flu, ive done a few marathons and had similar problems with being run down and getting flus and colds. Recommended to take plenty of vitamin c and Beetroot juice, its a natural creatine. You can get it in tesco, doesnt taste great, but its like anything, if its freezing cold its drinkable.
For your breathing, you should try nasal strips, they are supposed to promote breathing and increase nasal capacity, Robbie Fowler used to wear them as he had a very bad breathing problem

thanks for the positivity. Should be ok cold/flu-wise. Its coming into spring here (in Perth) and I won't be getting and staying wet again. Might try the strips.
Better breathing will come with better fitness. It can take the breathing a while to settle down in a run and of course if you get conscious of it you can imagine it to be worse than it is. I d be a mouth breather as well because my sinuses are a mess. The thing is to avoid short shallow gaspy breaths. If you try to get a good long exhale - like ye would swimming, it might help. The thing is I think we get in more air through banjaxed noses than we think as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

Deeler have you looked at varying your running?
Say knock out 20k some saturday at a slow slow pace, whatever pace you need to get you through. Then the next session look at doing maybe 1k fast, 2-3mins recovery x 3, maybe another session do hill repeats, nothing too steep and maybe only 400m x 10, that'll get your times down
Cheers for that. Have varied it a bit, like when I try the longer runs I start out slow . Thing is though, whether I start out slow or (relatively) fast, I end up levelling out at 5'35 - 5'45 / km. Only difference is whether I get there after 1km or 3! Usually struggle on then up to 6/7 kms.

Will try some of the 1km runs with intervals and see how that goes. Cheers

Try going out at 6.30/km, really slow, keep the heart rate down and just go for longer, knock out two hours at that pace
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 18, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
Bamboo - sorry to hear about the injury. Maybe its your wallet trying to get out  ;) Was wondering where you'd got to on this, hadn't seen you on in a while. Thought maybe all those concerts in the summer had seen you run away to join the hippies.

LL - I reckon half or more than half of the battle with running is mental toughness, convincing the body to keep going and convincing yourself of the same. If you have the ignorance, you'll be flying and your background is well suited. To date you've approached it spot on. The main failing is when people try to do too much or got too fast too soon. They'll jack it in.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 09:52:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 18, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

Deeler have you looked at varying your running?
Say knock out 20k some saturday at a slow slow pace, whatever pace you need to get you through. Then the next session look at doing maybe 1k fast, 2-3mins recovery x 3, maybe another session do hill repeats, nothing too steep and maybe only 400m x 10, that'll get your times down
Cheers for that. Have varied it a bit, like when I try the longer runs I start out slow . Thing is though, whether I start out slow or (relatively) fast, I end up levelling out at 5'35 - 5'45 / km. Only difference is whether I get there after 1km or 3! Usually struggle on then up to 6/7 kms.

Will try some of the 1km runs with intervals and see how that goes. Cheers

Try going out at 6.30/km, really slow, keep the heart rate down and just go for longer, knock out two hours at that pace

Bang on...

Breathing is reflectyive of effort levels. If you're breathing hard your effort levels are high. The best way to get fit is to train aerobically which is low effort levels so best way is to slow down.

It seems counter intuitive but train at low effort levels for longer and your fitness will come on much quicker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 19, 2013, 12:14:08 AM
Thanks for the tips guys... Have to admit I never thought slowing down was the answer!

Was trying to blast my way to quicker times, thinking I needed to lift my lung capacity.

Gonna try a 2 hr on Sat morning
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on September 19, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2013, 01:57:29 PM

Bang on...

Breathing is reflectyive of effort levels. If you're breathing hard your effort levels are high. The best way to get fit is to train aerobically which is low effort levels so best way is to slow down.

It seems counter intuitive but train at low effort levels for longer and your fitness will come on much quicker.

That's interesting. What about the advantages of sprints compared with long distance running? I find distance running at a leisurely pace more enjoyable, but was always told that sprinting was much more effective for improving fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
Sprints wouldn't really wotk your aerobic system so much though asal as you're pretty much working anaerobically so your cardio system isn't getting so much of a workout.

Intervals have benefits for the longer distance running but generally they're thrown into training cycles after the fitness work is done. Intervals have "neuromuscular" benefits. They train your body to work at higher heart rates and they're very good at improving your running economy and helping you deal with lactate.  They're really at the sharpening phase of your training.

The fitter you are from the aerobic stuff the more benefit you will take from the intervals when you start doing them...

I'm talking 5k / 10k training etc here rather than just general fitness mind you. They have their benefits but working in the lower heart rate zones especially when starting out has massive benefits to cardio fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on September 19, 2013, 01:31:59 PM
"Impossible to get a hernia around the belt buckle - it d be down in your balls.

You ve probably got a dose of osteitis pubis ( inflamation of the pubic bone - which is where the buckle rests).
abdominable muscles tie up there like a spider's web. It ll clear up but physio wont do it ant good but at least it s not a hernia and surgery. If it s any consolatin, a lad playing in AI final on Sunday had this sidline him for the guts of a year. You must have been waring the abs in the gym?"

Moysider,

Cheers for that. The symptoms would be pretty similar to what i have so you may have the answer there. Don't fancy sitting around waiting for it to heal though. Might have to play in the AI final meself one day!!

Can't swim so that's out but wonder what could i do to exercise yet minimise the impact on the area?

On the abs issue, can't say i was overdoing the abs work, was doing a bit of core work and some circuit classes but nothing excessive or out of the ordinary.. I remember feeling it the 1st time chasing a stray pass and the most recent bad niggle was over stretching trying to control a ball that came over my shoulder from our buffoon of a centre half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on September 19, 2013, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 19, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
Sprints wouldn't really wotk your aerobic system so much though asal as you're pretty much working anaerobically so your cardio system isn't getting so much of a workout.

Intervals have benefits for the longer distance running but generally they're thrown into training cycles after the fitness work is done. Intervals have "neuromuscular" benefits. They train your body to work at higher heart rates and they're very good at improving your running economy and helping you deal with lactate.  They're really at the sharpening phase of your training.

The fitter you are from the aerobic stuff the more benefit you will take from the intervals when you start doing them...

I'm talking 5k / 10k training etc here rather than just general fitness mind you. They have their benefits but working in the lower heart rate zones especially when starting out has massive benefits to cardio fitness.

That's good news Tommy. I can run at my own pace(slow) and enjoy it, while still improving my fitness.  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 08:35:01 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on September 19, 2013, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 19, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
Sprints wouldn't really wotk your aerobic system so much though asal as you're pretty much working anaerobically so your cardio system isn't getting so much of a workout.

Intervals have benefits for the longer distance running but generally they're thrown into training cycles after the fitness work is done. Intervals have "neuromuscular" benefits. They train your body to work at higher heart rates and they're very good at improving your running economy and helping you deal with lactate.  They're really at the sharpening phase of your training.

The fitter you are from the aerobic stuff the more benefit you will take from the intervals when you start doing them...

I'm talking 5k / 10k training etc here rather than just general fitness mind you. They have their benefits but working in the lower heart rate zones especially when starting out has massive benefits to cardio fitness.

That's good news Tommy. I can run at my own pace(slow) and enjoy it, while still improving my fitness.  :)

Running slow = middle aged women ffs!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
Aerobic zones -it's how you get fit!!

Not slow just not too high an effort level.

Once you get fitter you do the faster stuff!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on September 19, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
Milltown, what kind of times would you be doing in the pool? Intrigued as would like to get into the tris at some stage, unsure of the swimming standard, and know you've done a few. What would you do 40 lengths in say?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 09:36:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 19, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
Milltown, what kind of times would you be doing in the pool? Intrigued as would like to get into the tris at some stage, unsure of the swimming standard, and know you've done a few. What would you do 40 lengths in say?

I am a novice swimmer, basically self taught (my da just threw us in and we had to swim) but was busting to have a go at these tri's. So when I took my kids I just knocked out a lot of lengths and didn't really time them, was capable of 4 lengths rest do another 4 and so on till I was able to get it to 30 lengths (which is the sprint distance .5 miles) I managed to be sitting at 21 minutes and that was my first race time also. In a year of doing more swims I couldn't improve on it till I changed my stroke/breathing.

Right away was able to knock 4 minutes of my time, and it was a daft thing I was doing, I was doing four strokes breathe four strokes breathe, I changed it to 2 two strokes and I was not out of breath, more oxygen coming in. Improved me big time.

I'd say I'd do 40 lengths now in about 21 minutes, the main guys in this would be doing 40 lengths in 12 minutes or less!!

Pool best place to try your first but the madness is in open water, great buzz and I hope you get hooked
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on September 21, 2013, 09:12:02 AM
I'm prob similar MR, which is heartening.

My tuppence worth on some of the qs (for the little it's worth) is that aye, you watch the races or open water, and they breathe in every two, but I've always saw bilateral breathing (both sides) strongly strongly encouraged, so every 3, for training. They say it helps you a lot with keeping your stroke balanced, and also keeping you straight in open water for eg. In the race itself, it doesn't matter, if you've been practicing bilateral even when doing 2 strokes your stroke style should be embedded for the race, apparently.

I was opposite to MR, always swam breast, then self taught front crawl 6 or 7 yrs ago.

FR is a much better workout. Breast can also be hard on the neck. In terms of breathing, it seems to me (for both strokes) the important bit is breathing out, should be blowing all the air out so that only inhaling when out of water. If doing breast, there's a natural up and down motion anyway, accentuate  this and you'll be in and out of the water as you should be (They say for breast stroke a lot of the speed comes from closing out your kick, i.e the last bit of the kick, bring legs together.

What's that about that swimming club MR? I had considered going for a lesson or  to a club or somewhere to identify problems with my stroke, but any lessons seem to be for beginners etc. Where do you swim also? I'm at pec, though I've found I take notions of doing bursts when I'm injured, get all into it then stop when back at the ball. Def doing a tri next yr tho.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 21, 2013, 09:12:02 AM
I'm prob similar MR, which is heartening.

My tuppence worth on some of the qs (for the little it's worth) is that aye, you watch the races or open water, and they breathe in every two, but I've always saw bilateral breathing (both sides) strongly strongly encouraged, so every 3, for training. They say it helps you a lot with keeping your stroke balanced, and also keeping you straight in open water for eg. In the race itself, it doesn't matter, if you've been practicing bilateral even when doing 2 strokes your stroke style should be embedded for the race, apparently.

I was opposite to MR, always swam breast, then self taught front crawl 6 or 7 yrs ago.

FR is a much better workout. Breast can also be hard on the neck. In terms of breathing, it seems to me (for both strokes) the important bit is breathing out, should be blowing all the air out so that only inhaling when out of water. If doing breast, there's a natural up and down motion anyway, accentuate  this and you'll be in and out of the water as you should be (They say for breast stroke a lot of the speed comes from closing out your kick, i.e the last bit of the kick, bring legs together.

What's that about that swimming club MR? I had considered going for a lesson or  to a club or somewhere to identify problems with my stroke, but any lessons seem to be for beginners etc. Where do you swim also? I'm at pec, though I've found I take notions of doing bursts when I'm injured, get all into it then stop when back at the ball. Def doing a tri next yr tho.

Swim At DW Sports which has a 20 m pool, but this Belfast Masters thing is at the Grove, I sent them an email and they got back to with a session to attend next week, I'll let ya know how it goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on September 21, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Cheers. I dont know anyone in a club, and i've no idea what way they work
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 21, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Cheers. I dont know anyone in a club, and i've no idea what way they work

Aye me neither and there's no point asking friends unless they are instructors IMO, reading on it and generally go 3 times a week 40 lengths, continuously but would need to take that up to 80/100 a session but will wait to see if I can iron out my faults first. That's the distance you need to be hitting for next season
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 21, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
I see a 28 year old guy died at the half marathon in the Phoenix Park today.
Very sad news.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-collapses-and-dies-during-dublin-half-marathon-29595938.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on September 22, 2013, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
I see a 28 year old guy died at the half marathon in the Phoenix Park today.
Very sad news.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-collapses-and-dies-during-dublin-half-marathon-29595938.html

And a young soccer player who died playing for Islandmagee today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on September 22, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
My runners are done! Any recommendations for new ones? What's the best make or type to stick to?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Week its downhill from here, done and dusted.

A tough week, 55 miles, finished with a 20 miler yesterday morning. Legs felt heavy after alot of running all week and it was a busy weekend up to that with not much rest but they finished it out ok, averaged a 7.54 mile pace, happy with that.

Miles drop off this week to about 48-51, depending on what option I take. Can see the start line now though, so roll on the 28th October.

JimStynes - personally I'd stick with Ascis, My personal choice and have no complaints. Just a matter of getting the right shoe for yourself and a few decent stores would sort you out on that front.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Week its downhill from here, done and dusted.

A tough week, 55 miles, finished with a 20 miler yesterday morning. Legs felt heavy after alot of running all week and it was a busy weekend up to that with not much rest but they finished it out ok, averaged a 7.54 mile pace, happy with that.

Miles drop off this week to about 48-51, depending on what option I take. Can see the start line now though, so roll on the 28th October.

JimStynes - personally I'd stick with Ascis, My personal choice and have no complaints. Just a matter of getting the right shoe for yourself and a few decent stores would sort you out on that front.

For 20 miles? thats some going
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Week its downhill from here, done and dusted.

A tough week, 55 miles, finished with a 20 miler yesterday morning. Legs felt heavy after alot of running all week and it was a busy weekend up to that with not much rest but they finished it out ok, averaged a 7.54 mile pace, happy with that.

Miles drop off this week to about 48-51, depending on what option I take. Can see the start line now though, so roll on the 28th October.

JimStynes - personally I'd stick with Ascis, My personal choice and have no complaints. Just a matter of getting the right shoe for yourself and a few decent stores would sort you out on that front.

For 20 miles? thats some going

Well, I'm happy with it but think on the day I'll be able to take it down a notch or two.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 23, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Week its downhill from here, done and dusted.

A tough week, 55 miles, finished with a 20 miler yesterday morning. Legs felt heavy after alot of running all week and it was a busy weekend up to that with not much rest but they finished it out ok, averaged a 7.54 mile pace, happy with that.

Miles drop off this week to about 48-51, depending on what option I take. Can see the start line now though, so roll on the 28th October.

JimStynes - personally I'd stick with Ascis, My personal choice and have no complaints. Just a matter of getting the right shoe for yourself and a few decent stores would sort you out on that front.

For 20 miles? thats some going

Well, I'm happy with it but think on the day I'll be able to take it down a notch or two.

What time are you looking to get? Be interested in a half marathon for sure, that be the limit distance wise, short legs, short distance!! But troubled with hamstring lately and had trained for the Larne half but it was cancelled due to the weather was looking at 1.45 for that, friends did the Belfast yesterday and they loved it, lad from the club finished in 1.41
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on September 23, 2013, 09:20:27 PM
Anywhere local that does that foot analysis thing that tells what best shoe is for you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 23, 2013, 09:20:27 PM
Anywhere local that does that foot analysis thing that tells what best shoe is for you?

DW Sports?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2013, 10:05:52 PM
Podium4sport or pure running.

They'll tell you what support you require.

Should be a few people who know their shoes in either.

I prefer brooks to asics. Asics quite inflexible round ankles i find. Personal preference though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on September 24, 2013, 08:10:46 PM
Really tempted to make the paris marathon my first! Anyone ever do it? would it be a good one for my first one in terms of how tough it is?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 25, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
How far would you have had to run in training to be confident enough to do a 10k? I did 7k Saturday night and felt grand - took it pretty slow mind you. Should I get a 5mile/8k in next weekend and leave it at that? Race I'm looking at doing is on October 6th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on September 25, 2013, 10:39:05 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 25, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
How far would you have had to run in training to be confident enough to do a 10k? I did 7k Saturday night and felt grand - took it pretty slow mind you. Should I get a 5mile/8k in next weekend and leave it at that? Race I'm looking at doing is on October 6th.

Seanie

If its a 10k run/event, the crowd and other runners and crowd will get you home. I trained for the 10k in the Pheonix Park one year and was only up as far as 6.5k when I got bad blisters and had to stop training. Did the 10k about a week later, sprinted the last 100 yards. it's very different training on your own and running in an event.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 25, 2013, 11:29:42 AM
Seanie, you'll always push a bit out extra in the race scenerio - not only due to adrenilen, crowds, other runners etc but you'll be rest going into it, the legs will be ready. Saying that, the above factors can also be your biggest danger - in the first few kms's the above will have you pumped and flying along regardless of your planned pace, expected pace, etc. You'll feel great and will probably go faster than you normally do but it will come back to haunt you in the closing stages, so self control is important in the early stages, even pace over the 10km and you'll always find something at the end.

This weekend I'd see no harm going 8km, even a wee bit further. Once you pace it like last weekend and your recovery from the 7k was easy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 25, 2013, 11:46:55 AM
Thanks guys. It's getting harder with the dark evenings but still plugging away.

As for the pitfalls of race running ye mentioned - it happened me twice in the two 5k's I ran. The second one was actually more understandable as it was an event with huge numbers in it and I had to go quick at the start to get by a load of plodders (well slower than even me!!!).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 25, 2013, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 25, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
How far would you have had to run in training to be confident enough to do a 10k? I did 7k Saturday night and felt grand - took it pretty slow mind you. Should I get a 5mile/8k in next weekend and leave it at that? Race I'm looking at doing is on October 6th.

It s unlikely you ll calf in a 10K but ideally you should have done the distance or over in training ( same for a half marathon). Do a 10k in training this week, even if it is real slow. It ll give you confidence as well. And you ve loads of recovery time til race.
As for the race itself don't go out too quick. You should have an idea from training what your pace is like and run the race as 10x1 kilometres sticking to regular splits per K at your predetermined pace. Say if you want to run a sub 50. Each K will we coming in about 4;55ish from the start and keeping this consistent. No harm if the first K is a bit slower as you have to settle into it. If you ve anything left in last couple of Ks you can up it a bit then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 30, 2013, 11:46:25 AM
Week 4 to go. This time 4 weeks, I'll be suffering round UCD somewhere likely or hopefully rather.

Another week under the belt. 47 miles in total. Couple of good runs during the week and then did 10 miles on Saturday at a hard pace, finished with 7.31 per mile. Was down for 17 miles yesterday but legs felt leggy after Saturday and settled for 15 miles at just over 8 minute miles. Legs loosened out well during run but felt very heavy afterwards.

Into last tough week now and will have a 22 miler on Sunday, so will ease into the week with one eye firmly on that.

Roll on the 28th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Estimator on September 30, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
I'm working my way up to the 10km mark, more for fitness than aiming towards a race. Did 7km yesterday morning, I tried to keep pace at 4.45 per km, but averaged out at 4.53 per km. First km was much quicker than I wanted at 4.31, but gradually got into the pace. The 6km was the slowest at 5.20, primarily due to a hateful incline.
Are there any apps out there where you can set a pace, with alerts if you are running too fast or too slow.  I'm using Nike+ which gives you the pace after each km, but would like something more frequent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WeeDonns on September 30, 2013, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: Estimator on September 30, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
I'm working my way up to the 10km mark, more for fitness than aiming towards a race. Did 7km yesterday morning, I tried to keep pace at 4.45 per km, but averaged out at 4.53 per km. First km was much quicker than I wanted at 4.31, but gradually got into the pace. The 6km was the slowest at 5.20, primarily due to a hateful incline.
Are there any apps out there where you can set a pace, with alerts if you are running too fast or too slow.  I'm using Nike+ which gives you the pace after each km, but would like something more frequent.

Drumagh 10 & 5k is on this Sat, just outside Omagh. I you don't fancy the 10k yet, both the 5 & 10k use chip timing so the 5 should still be competitive enough to run at a good pace
More details here
https://www.facebook.com/events/352420428224388/
https://www.facebook.com/DrumraghSarsfields
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 30, 2013, 06:23:54 PM
Signed up for Hell and Back in Bray, something a bit different.........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 30, 2013, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: Estimator on September 30, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
I'm working my way up to the 10km mark, more for fitness than aiming towards a race. Did 7km yesterday morning, I tried to keep pace at 4.45 per km, but averaged out at 4.53 per km. First km was much quicker than I wanted at 4.31, but gradually got into the pace. The 6km was the slowest at 5.20, primarily due to a hateful incline.
Are there any apps out there where you can set a pace, with alerts if you are running too fast or too slow.  I'm using Nike+ which gives you the pace after each km, but would like something more frequent.

I'm using a Nike + sportswatch and it gives you current pace and average pace and can also be set up for pace at any interval you want.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 30, 2013, 06:38:18 PM
Signed up for my first proper 10k event. Have my 10k time down to 54mins so hope to knock a few more minutes off before the race.

http://dublin.mo-running.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 01, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 30, 2013, 06:38:18 PM
Signed up for my first proper 10k event. Have my 10k time down to 54mins so hope to knock a few more minutes off before the race.

http://dublin.mo-running.com/

Fair play, that should be a good event with big numbers. You knocking right time off already. Come November you'll be sub 50.

For anyone else, today is the last day to register for Dublin Marathon, never too late  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Anyone doing the GR8 Dundrum Run at the weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 06, 2013, 09:00:45 PM
Week 3 to go and last big one done today. Stepped off from plan a bit this week and missed one 10 mile run on Wednesday. Had one eye on today. Total miles was 43.

Today went well. Slow start for first 5km, well outside 5min pace but next 30 odd all below to finish with average pace of 7.55 min pace per mile. Last 4 was in 7.40-7.50 range. Happy out!

Roll on the 28th.

Was some of lads doing a 10km today? Seanie?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 06, 2013, 09:14:44 PM

Did the Athlone 3/4 today. Last long run before Dublin.

Undulating course with an 'eyeballs out' hill at mile 18. It really feels as hard as a full Dublin so hopefully it will stand to me! Happy enough. Ran it harder than I had intended but still held back a bit. Came in well under the 3 hours and with a good taper and fresh legs in 3 weeks time I could get a PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 07, 2013, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2013, 09:00:45 PM
Week 3 to go and last big one done today. Stepped off from plan a bit this week and missed one 10 mile run on Wednesday. Had one eye on today. Total miles was 43.

Today went well. Slow start for first 5km, well outside 5min pace but next 30 odd all below to finish with average pace of 7.55 min pace per mile. Last 4 was in 7.40-7.50 range. Happy out!

Roll on the 28th.

Was some of lads doing a 10km today? Seanie?

No - didn't do it. A few things came up which meant I didn't get enough work done the last couple of weeks so I decided not to do it. Have my eye on another one in 2-3 weeks that I should be ok for. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on October 07, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
Did my first Tough Mudder yesterday in Cheshire, 12 miles of mud and obstacles (incl electric shocks)

The link below is the course we did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Jn_Lb0ahM

They are in Dublin in mid 2014, cannot stress how good this was.  The most I ever ran before it was 8 miles but it is very stop-start and managed it OK.

The craic was mighty!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 07, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: southdown on October 07, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
Did my first Tough Mudder yesterday in Cheshire, 12 miles of mud and obstacles (incl electric shocks)

The link below is the course we did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Jn_Lb0ahM

They are in Dublin in mid 2014, cannot stress how good this was.  The most I ever ran before it was 8 miles but it is very stop-start and managed it OK.

The craic was mighty!
Jaysus, that looks mental.

Wouldn't be my sort of thing, running is hard enough already, wouldn't be up for added torture but fair play, seem to be all the rage these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 07, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: southdown on October 07, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
Did my first Tough Mudder yesterday in Cheshire, 12 miles of mud and obstacles (incl electric shocks)

The link below is the course we did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Jn_Lb0ahM

They are in Dublin in mid 2014, cannot stress how good this was.  The most I ever ran before it was 8 miles but it is very stop-start and managed it OK.

The craic was mighty!
Jaysus, that looks mental.

Wouldn't be my sort of thing, running is hard enough already, wouldn't be up for added torture but fair play, seem to be all the rage these days.

Extreme sports popular enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on October 07, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
It looks a lot harder than it is, the ice pools were torture on the balls though.  As I said, very stop-start makes it fairly do-able.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 07, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Anyone doing the GR8 Dundrum Run at the weekend?
What distance is the Dundrum run and does it include those horrific sand dunes?!  I was supposed to run the Armagh 10 mile this Sunday coming but didn't get the entry form in on time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 07, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Anyone doing the GR8 Dundrum Run at the weekend?
What distance is the Dundrum run and does it include those horrific sand dunes?!  I was supposed to run the Armagh 10 mile this Sunday coming but didn't get the entry form in on time.

8 miles, yeah part beach and other terain
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 13, 2013, 09:45:10 PM
That's some achievement "from couch to 77 meters short of a half marathon!" Was that in the App store?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 13, 2013, 09:45:10 PM
That's some achievement "from couch to 77 meters short of a half marathon!" Was that in the App store?

lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 13, 2013, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Are you sure you are not from Mayo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 11:20:45 PM
Well I've just traced my route out on a website called runmyroute and it came out as 21.6km so maybe I did it afterall!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
You can lose gps signal if you're under a load of trees then when it picks up signal again it takes a straight line distance which can shorten things.

It's generally pretty close to bang on but there's the odd place you'd run it'd be out a wee bit with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on October 14, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
That's good going LL
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 14, 2013, 09:50:15 AM
Fair play LL, thats savage going from a man who was looking at 5km not too long ago. I've heard that on average the GPS watches are out by 77m's for every half marathon distance ran  ;)

Week 2 to go - Taper begins.

Was a strange week, after 22m last sunday, felt great after it, fresh at start of the week but by yesterday, was just shattered. Likely a combination of work been hectic and the running starting to take its toll.

Tuesday was a 8mile run with 5x600m @ 5km pace. Went well, happy with that- Wednesday was 6m recovery run and Friday was 4m recovery run. Both grand. Saturday called for a 10m run with a 10k "race" in it. Normally do the weekend runs early in the AM but was late getting out Saturday, was near 4. 10km went well, kept a good steady pace and then slowed down for the home run. Felt tired after it but not too bad, few niggles that hadn't felt before though - knee and foot.

Got up early yesterday morning to do a schedule 16m run. Was very reluctant heading out and as soon as a i started the legs just felt like they where in concrete blocks. After about 5m, I decided 10 was enough for the day and I took it easy and stopped at that. Knee still a bit stiff and sore today but nothing too bad.

Taper starting just at right time I think, time to get rested and fresh, will tip at a few miles in line with the plan but nothing too much for the next few days.

This time two weeks, should be in the Park at this stage!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 14, 2013, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 07, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: southdown on October 07, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
Did my first Tough Mudder yesterday in Cheshire, 12 miles of mud and obstacles (incl electric shocks)

The link below is the course we did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Jn_Lb0ahM

They are in Dublin in mid 2014, cannot stress how good this was.  The most I ever ran before it was 8 miles but it is very stop-start and managed it OK.

The craic was mighty!
Jaysus, that looks mental.

Wouldn't be my sort of thing, running is hard enough already, wouldn't be up for added torture but fair play, seem to be all the rage these days.

Pretty similar to "Hell and Back" in Bray in November by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 14, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Anyone ever do the Sixmilebridge Marathon? It's run on the same one-mile loop, apparently. I'm looking at doing it as I'll be home in November and looking to take on my first marathon. Any advice on this or other Marathons in November would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 20, 2013, 07:51:03 AM
Was looking at getting a gps watch, would anyone who has one advise getting one with the heart rate monitor or is there much point?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 09:55:56 AM
7 days to go!

Took it fairly handy this week, few niggles on the right leg. One day its the knee, next it the calf, then the heel or maybe the hamstring! Likely its my head. Done 3 runs, skipped one early in the week as felt totally wrecked after last weekends run. Do 8miles, 4miles and 12miles yesterday.

Very little to do this week, few miles here and there.

Heading to Dublin on Saturday for the Expo and then this time next week I'll be in the think of it!

lfdown2 - Re the GPS watch. I'd day if you buying a GPS watch now, you might as well go the xtra few quid and get the heart monitor. Lot of people thinks its the way to train, can't say I've ever done it myself, largely as the group I would run with don't use them. I'd say buy it now as if you are spending that money you might as well get the full package rather than regret it later, plus it be easier sold if you aren't bothered with the running after a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 21, 2013, 10:12:44 AM

7 days to go is right!

Have to say I m at the doubtful stage. Ran Saturday and felt dreadful - no lift at all. Going to do very little this week - maybe 3 small runs and that s it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 10:12:44 AM

7 days to go is right!

Have to say I m at the doubtful stage. Ran Saturday and felt dreadful - no lift at all. Going to do very little this week - maybe 3 small runs and that s it.

Struggling with flu or just the training catching up? I left like that the previous Sunday, legs felt dead. Done little enough last week and felt better yesterday on my run. Just rest up this week, eat well and I'm sure you'll be fresh coming into next weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 21, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 10:12:44 AM

7 days to go is right!

Have to say I m at the doubtful stage. Ran Saturday and felt dreadful - no lift at all. Going to do very little this week - maybe 3 small runs and that s it.

Struggling with flu or just the training catching up? I left like that the previous Sunday, legs felt dead. Done little enough last week and felt better yesterday on my run. Just rest up this week, eat well and I'm sure you'll be fresh coming into next weekend.

Luckily no flu so it must be training catching up. Plus I had a late night Thursday that wouldn't have helped. I d be worried except everybody is feeling it and I remember last year I was like a ragdoll a week before Dublin. In fact I went out for a couple of easy miles 2 days before the race last year and I thought I was codding myself even going to Dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 10:12:44 AM

7 days to go is right!

Have to say I m at the doubtful stage. Ran Saturday and felt dreadful - no lift at all. Going to do very little this week - maybe 3 small runs and that s it.

Struggling with flu or just the training catching up? I left like that the previous Sunday, legs felt dead. Done little enough last week and felt better yesterday on my run. Just rest up this week, eat well and I'm sure you'll be fresh coming into next weekend.

Luckily no flu so it must be training catching up. Plus I had a late night Thursday that wouldn't have helped. I d be worried except everybody is feeling it and I remember last year I was like a ragdoll a week before Dublin. In fact I went out for a couple of easy miles 2 days before the race last year and I thought I was codding myself even going to Dublin.

Yeah, know what you saying alright. I've a busy week with work and other stuff but come weekend I intend to do nothing but rest, wee run on Sunday morning to stretch the legs and that will be it.

What time you looking at?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 21, 2013, 11:59:28 AM
Ye must give me a head up of what gear ye are wearing lads. Going to be on my bike at a couple of spots on the course, probably at the Garda headquarters just as you enter the park and then probably again at St. Vincents hospital....Bingo or anybody, if you want me to have a gel ready for you, I could get it off you at the expo on Saturday. Plan to spin over and stock up on some gear!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 21, 2013, 11:59:28 AM
Ye must give me a head up of what gear ye are wearing lads. Going to be on my bike at a couple of spots on the course, probably at the Garda headquarters just as you enter the park and then probably again at St. Vincents hospital....Bingo or anybody, if you want me to have a gel ready for you, I could get it off you at the expo on Saturday. Plan to spin over and stock up on some gear!

Good man. I'll be covered for Gels etc, have a handy Gel belt that does the job. Some moral support will do!

I'll be in the club vest - Blayney Rockets! Mainly red with some yellow and black on it. Will be about 20 of us spread out in field with about 6 of them being actual Rockets and well up the field.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 21, 2013, 12:24:52 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 21, 2013, 10:12:44 AM

7 days to go is right!

Have to say I m at the doubtful stage. Ran Saturday and felt dreadful - no lift at all. Going to do very little this week - maybe 3 small runs and that s it.

Struggling with flu or just the training catching up? I left like that the previous Sunday, legs felt dead. Done little enough last week and felt better yesterday on my run. Just rest up this week, eat well and I'm sure you'll be fresh coming into next weekend.

Luckily no flu so it must be training catching up. Plus I had a late night Thursday that wouldn't have helped. I d be worried except everybody is feeling it and I remember last year I was like a ragdoll a week before Dublin. In fact I went out for a couple of easy miles 2 days before the race last year and I thought I was codding myself even going to Dublin.

Yeah, know what you saying alright. I've a busy week with work and other stuff but come weekend I intend to do nothing but rest, wee run on Sunday morning to stretch the legs and that will be it.

What time you looking at?

Anywhere in the 3:40s and I'd be delighted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 21, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 21, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 21, 2013, 11:59:28 AM
Ye must give me a head up of what gear ye are wearing lads. Going to be on my bike at a couple of spots on the course, probably at the Garda headquarters just as you enter the park and then probably again at St. Vincents hospital....Bingo or anybody, if you want me to have a gel ready for you, I could get it off you at the expo on Saturday. Plan to spin over and stock up on some gear!

Good man. I'll be covered for Gels etc, have a handy Gel belt that does the job. Some moral support will do!

I'll be in the club vest - Blayney Rockets! Mainly red with some yellow and black on it. Will be about 20 of us spread out in field with about 6 of them being actual Rockets and well up the field.
Good stuff, if you give me a general time when you expect to hit the park at and around St. Vincents I'll give ya a shout. Was looking back at videos of finish of last year, Blaney Rockets lad came in just ahead of me around 2.56..
I'll know BallinaFit4Life tops moy so will be able to spot ye no bother!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on October 23, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
Well lads, having a bit of bother with shin splints.

Anyone have any idea how to get rid of them or lessen their effect?

cheers!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 23, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on October 23, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
Well lads, having a bit of bother with shin splints.

Anyone have any idea how to get rid of them or lessen their effect?

cheers!
Ideally I'd like to be able to look at how you actually run because it's best way to spot something that might be a little off which would be causing the problems but basic things to do which will help...
Avoid hard running on hard surfaces for next few weeks.
Are you in correct running shoes or are the ones you are using old and lost their shock absorbency?
Foam roll your calves, ankle relaxed and roll up and down, rock side to side...find the spots that are sore and concentrate on those, it'll be sore but you've got to suck it up, it'll get easier.
Sit back onto your heels when kneeling down to stretch muscles along front of the leg, you'll probably feel it strongest at your ankles but no harm, it's still stretching your tibialis anterior muscles (one next to your shin bone that pops up when you bring your toes towards you).
Rest for 1 week from running when doing these and then gradually easy back into training.

If you are still in bother, get back to me and I'll send you on a few more things, slightly more complicated but will clear it if above doesn't do the job.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on October 23, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 23, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on October 23, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
Well lads, having a bit of bother with shin splints.

Anyone have any idea how to get rid of them or lessen their effect?

cheers!
Ideally I'd like to be able to look at how you actually run because it's best way to spot something that might be a little off which would be causing the problems but basic things to do which will help...
Avoid hard running on hard surfaces for next few weeks.
Are you in correct running shoes or are the ones you are using old and lost their shock absorbency?
Foam roll your calves, ankle relaxed and roll up and down, rock side to side...find the spots that are sore and concentrate on those, it'll be sore but you've got to suck it up, it'll get easier.
Sit back onto your heels when kneeling down to stretch muscles along front of the leg, you'll probably feel it strongest at your ankles but no harm, it's still stretching your tibialis anterior muscles (one next to your shin bone that pops up when you bring your toes towards you).
Rest for 1 week from running when doing these and then gradually easy back into training.

If you are still in bother, get back to me and I'll send you on a few more things, slightly more complicated but will clear it if above doesn't do the job.

Great stuff Ballinaman, thank you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 26, 2013, 04:50:34 PM
Number collected, expo shopping done, roll on Monday am but please Mr Weather, be kind!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2013, 04:57:03 PM
Best of luck Bingo. Hope I'm ready to do it myself this time next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 26, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Good luck to all the Board Members who are doing the Dublin Marathon on Monday! I'm looking forward to reading all your anecdotes next week!

May the bumpy Dublin roads rise to meet you,
May the forecast gale forced winds be always at your back,
May you have your full contingent of toenails on Tuesday
May you apply plentiful vaseline lest your crotch and nipples chafe,
May you hydrate but not so much that your bladder explodes,
May you not be tempted to wear the new top and trainers purchased at Expo
May you be able to boast about it until Christmas.
May you get there in the end!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
And enjoy your lap of honour.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 27, 2013, 02:50:30 AM
Quote from: CD on October 26, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Good luck to all the Board Members who are doing the Dublin Marathon on Monday! I'm looking forward to reading all your anecdotes next week!

May the bumpy Dublin roads rise to meet you,
May the forecast gale forced winds be always at your back,
May you have your full contingent of toenails on Tuesday
May you apply plentiful vaseline lest your crotch and nipples chafe,
May you hydrate but not so much that your bladder explodes,
May you not be tempted to wear the new top and trainers purchased at Expo
May you be able to boast about it until Christmas.
May you get there in the end!
;D Good post.

Do Marathon runners really lose toenails? Is it from the cold or from being stepped on? I only ask because I'm thinking of doing one soon but don't fancy losing toenails since I play a fair bit of soccer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on October 27, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
I lost the big toenail bout three months ago. Thi.k it was from using the wrong footwer at the stsrt of my running. Wasn't and isn't sore.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2013, 08:37:21 AM
Asal: Some people do loose toenails but as bridgegael said it's wrong footwear. Good luck all gaaboarders running tomorrow. Looks like it'll be windy which is a balls but keep, head down and slipstream people as much as you can.

Great call on going to expo early bingo, picked up some great deals. Did you taste the protein ice cream? Unreal... Speaking of unreal...the blonde bird at the skins stand wearing the gear..sweet jesus, I nearly fell over.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2013, 08:43:27 AM
12 mile and an ice bath all before 8 o'clock this morning. Would love to have done dublin but couldn't get off work. Anyone ever ran paris?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 27, 2013, 10:13:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 27, 2013, 08:37:21 AM
Asal: Some people do loose toenails but as bridgegael said it's wrong footwear. Good luck all gaaboarders running tomorrow. Looks like it'll be windy which is a balls but keep, head down and slipstream people as much as you can.

Great call on going to expo early bingo, picked up some great deals. Did you taste the protein ice cream? Unreal... Speaking of unreal...the blonde bird at the skins stand wearing the gear..sweet jesus, I nearly fell over.

I see alright! Sweet lord. Was another one for Runways in tight gear handing out flyers, blind as well. Painted into the gear!! The Munchean marathon stand was also worth visiting!!

Picked up a few bits myself, good value all right!

It looks like the rain is not going to be as bad but it will be windy alright. Might hang round the pacer group for some shelter. At least it not the wide open spaces of Connemara!

Cheers lads, as the Blayney Rockets say "eyeballs out"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 27, 2013, 10:13:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 27, 2013, 08:37:21 AM
Asal: Some people do loose toenails but as bridgegael said it's wrong footwear. Good luck all gaaboarders running tomorrow. Looks like it'll be windy which is a balls but keep, head down and slipstream people as much as you can.

Great call on going to expo early bingo, picked up some great deals. Did you taste the protein ice cream? Unreal... Speaking of unreal...the blonde bird at the skins stand wearing the gear..sweet jesus, I nearly fell over.

I see alright! Sweet lord. Was another one for Runways in tight gear handing out flyers, blind as well. Painted into the gear!! The Munchean marathon stand was also worth visiting!!

Picked up a few bits myself, good value all right!

It looks like the rain is not going to be as bad but it will be windy alright. Might hang round the pacer group for some shelter. At least it not the wide open spaces of Connemara!

Cheers lads, as the Blayney Rockets say "eyeballs out"
Aye, saw her too...pretty sure she eye f**ked the shit out of me as Owen Wilson would say......probably part of the job description I'd say!!

Don't think the wind will be as bad as today. Did a 10 there along the coast by Clontarf towards Howth and it was pretty bad against it, giving it 15 m/s on the weather app and between 6am - 12pm is down as 8 m/s so it'll be much better...and as you said, no really exposed places on the course!


Anybody that does a bit of running will enjoy this, came across it this morning. Funny enough...

The terrible and wonderful reasons why I run long distances

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
FFS SAKE LADS RULE 1!!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 27, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
FFS SAKE LADS RULE 1!!!!!

Seconded, lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on October 27, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 27, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
Aye, saw her too...pretty sure she eye f**ked the shit out of me as Owen Wilson would say......probably part of the job description I'd say!!

Do you come with the car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW8j3x3GzxY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW8j3x3GzxY)

Good luck lads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on October 28, 2013, 01:13:39 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 18, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Lads, I'm new to the running game, and probably coming from a similar position as Bingo was 2 years ago (5'9, carrying a gut, etc etc).

Have been training towards doing a 20km obstacle course at the end of Oct - doing boot camp and gym sessions 4-6 times a week as well as going for runs. Was upping the distance run, but hit a snag at the start of August.

Did a 9km obstacle course, ended up getting fairly wet and cold and was standing around for a while afterward. Got a bad chesty cold from it, and wasn't great. Problem is, I had arranged to do a 12km run the following weekend, and through stubbornness though I could push through it. Managed the 12k in a below average time, but was absolutely fecked after.

Long story short, only getting back to training now - did a 5km last night after work which went OK, though I don't know how much more I could do. Planning on doing 3 x 5km runs/week in the morning and core & upper body training after work 3 times / week with a longer run at the weekends.

Am I dreaming if I'm still planning the 20k in <6 weeks time?

I'm a plodder, and always feel knackered after a couple of kms but can keep going at a steady pace (about 5:30/km). Can't seem to up this at all. Maybe its related to my breathing. I can't breathe through my nose when I'm running as I broke it years ago, so I puff and blow quite a bit

So, 6 weeks ago I wasn't in a great place preparing for my 20km 'run' (was actually a Tough Mudder, as lfcsouthdown did a couple of weeks ago) and the preparation hadn't got any better in the mean time.
Had to head home for an unexpected 2 week trip - this ended up as 2 weeks of eating / drinking and about 4 weeks of no training. Was planning to pull out of the event, but my mate was doing it for his 40th and I didnt want to disappoint.

Anyway, I arrived back from Ireland on the Saturday night before the event the following weekend. Did a boot camp at the local gym Tusday, and went out for a run on Wed evening. Managed 9.5km in 50mins which is good for me.

Did the Tough Mudder yesterday - serious fun, but the heat really got to me. It was 29 degrees and not a lot of shade on the course - water obstacles were welcome.

Managed to complete the course in 2h32mins (website said avg times were 3:15-3:45, but I imagine that's an over estimate.
Not too sore today, except for a monster blister on my right arch - actually got the blister on the previous Wednesday so it got real big yesterday. Had to cut it back to clean it out last night which was no fun at all.

Would seriously recommend the event

http://toughmudder.com.au/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: downredblack on October 28, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
I was complaining to a mate of mine that my knees are shot to bits, he put me onto Glucosamine Sulphate , been taking them for about a month now and I have seen improvement , hopefully they continue to improve . Just passing it on here , might work for some of you .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on October 28, 2013, 10:43:03 AM
I have found that using a foam roller has really helped my knees for tight IT bands
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2013, 10:48:37 AM
Looks like a local winner this year in either Joe Sweeney or Sean Hehir(probably the former). Be good to see an Irish guy winning dublin again as I'm sure it's been a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on October 28, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
Louise Hogan and Cliona Foley– 28 October 2013

THE first Irish man to win the Airtricity Dublin Marathon in 20 years immediately hugged his delighted family waiting at the finishing line.




Primary school teacher Sean Hehir (28), from Kilkishen, Co Clare, landed the race in 2:18:19 on a cold St Jude's day, holding off the advances of 6ft 2in Joe Sweeney who finished in his wake.

Sean's mother Cushla Murphy-Hehir told how she had not been able to sleep the night before the race due to her nerves.

Her son was taken to the elite massage tent to try and recover from the gruelling 26.2 miles trek across the city.

"He has trained very very hard," said the proud mother, who was also a runner alongside John Treacy in the '80s.

"He has trained twice a day - 6.30am and 6.30pm. He did altitude for three weeks in the summer. This is his second ever marathon he was second of the Irish last year," said Mrs Murphy-Hehir.

The Dublin-based primary schoolteacher won after a fantastic two-man tussle with Dundrum South Dublin's Joe Sweeney.

The two slogged it out in a fascinating duel for most of the race.They went through half-way together  in 68 minutes and 25 seconds, which left them headed for a sub-2:18 run but the second half took its toll on both of them.

They've been side-by-side for the first half of the race but, at mile 14 debutant Sweeney looked the stronger when he made a decisive move to open up a quick nine second-gap by throwing in a quick 5.08 mile.

But Hehir caught up with him and made his own big move in the 20th mile through Clonskeagh, pulling clear going up Milltown Hill and never looking back.




Participants at the start of the Airtricity Dublin Marathon 2013
It was still  a great marathon debut for Sweeney, who finished less than a minute adrift in 2:19.26 and long-time Irish resident and Moldovan international Sergio Ciobanu (Clonliffe) was third in 2:22:02.


Sweeney's DSD clubmate Maria McCambridge was the big women's pre-race favourite and led through half-way in 79 minutes and 25 seconds but Cork's Claire McCarthy-Gibbons (Leevale) overtook her in the 18th mile and the two women had a fantastic tussle over the final six miles.

Defending Irish champion McCambridge somehow managed to battle back and retained her title in 2:38.51, with McCarthy second  in 2:39.27 and Tullamore Olympian Pauline Curley was third in 2:42.58.

Earlier,hopes were high that an Irish runner might be first person past the finishing post at Merrion Square North for the first time in 20-years.

Earlier this year, in the absence of a headline sponsor, Dublin organisers were forced to cut the elite race fund, which meant the usual invitations were not issued to some of the East African runners who have dominated in recent years.

Race organiser Jim Aughney revealed people had still travelled from far and wide to take  part in the race, with runners from 47 countries taking part.

Mr Aughney told how the popular race had attracted around 2,000 from the UK, around 500 from the US and a group of 12 over for the first time from the Philippines.

In addition, he told how hundreds of thousands of euro would be raised for their two chosen charities Temple Street and Focus Ireland, with many other runners picking their own personal worthy causes.

"We were sweating for the last couple of days," he said, adding it had been a "serious" day as they tried to erect the marques and signs.

More than 10,000 Irish people took part in the 26.2 mile race and a further 4,000 representing around 47 different nationalities travelled to the country.

Welsh National Champion Alun Evans was the only elite international male runner to participate.

Members of An Garda Siochana and the Police Service of Northern Ireland joined forces for the fifth year running and took part under the Garda Athletics Club vest.

The officers, who raised funds for different causes close to them, were cheered on by the Garda Band and the Assistant Commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Region.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
Inspirational stuff watching the marathon there today.

Some idiot on a bike clipped Sean Hehir at corner of merion shopping centre and St Vincents Hospital. Could have taken him out of the race. Couldn't believe it, I gave him an awful bollocking. Totally oblivious.

Looking forward to reading race reports from lads who did it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
No harm to the guys that come over but I think it's far better to see a local winner of these races and I'd love to see the same in Belfast.

It's fine in places like London etc where they get the best in the world and world records are threatened but when you're paying guys to come over and they're running 2:10+ then in international terms they're not great and I have never seen the point.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
Home at the ranch after a good days work.

Home in 3.21.42, PB by 19mins!

Delighted but just about fit to write this ;-)

One think I'll say, the people round the route where unbelievable, a credit to the city/country.

Full report will follow, rest for a hour then the kids are taking me out for a steak and a pint!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 28, 2013, 04:50:16 PM
Well done Bingo!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
Great time Bingo - well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2013, 05:57:00 PM
Savage run Bingo. That's some skelp off your PB.

Gave every Rockets top I saw a shout. Missed a good few people passing though, very hard to pick people out when big groups passing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 28, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
Turned into a nightmare for me unfortunately but that s running, that s sport. I was in great form going in but dodgy back problem kicked in early and by mile 12 I had no lift and knew I was in serious trouble for later on. However I tried to run it mile by mile and minimise my losses as best I could. By mile 18 I could no longer run uphill and at mile 20 the back/glute thing went into left leg sending hamstring into a spasm/cramp forcing me into a tent for treatment.

While in there I realised I was only in the ha'penny place. There was a young lad on a stretcher with paramedics shining a light into his eye.

I managed to run/jog the last miles and snuck in under the 4 hours - about 10 - 15 minutes shy of what target was. Not putting anybody off - I have a chronic injury and try to manage it but today it knocked the shit out of me and I have to say it was a very tough last hour and a half. Yeah I was disappointed during the race but after, philisophical enough because by mile 16 I could not see how I could get through it at all and felt like abandoning completely, but I just managed to limp home. Also cant complain because I ve had a good year and did my best 5K, 10K, 10 mile and half by some distance and even today in spite of all the drama I was only a few minutes off last years time. Ye have to be philisophical about this stuff.

Hope everybody got through it ok. There was a young lad down past the finish and he appeared to be in some trouble. Then there was a report of same lad I think, still in hospital this evening being treated. Hopefully he s fully recovered. That s the important thing.

As usual the support was brilliant. The event is a credit to the old city.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 28, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 28, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
Home at the ranch after a good days work.

Home in 3.21.42, PB by 19mins!

Delighted but just about fit to write this ;-)

One think I'll say, the people round the route where unbelievable, a credit to the city/country.

Full report will follow, rest for a hour then the kids are taking me out for a steak and a pint!

Pretty good going Bingo. Not far off my own PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 28, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
Turned into a nightmare for me unfortunately but that s running, that s sport. I was in great form going in but dodgy back problem kicked in early and by mile 12 I had no lift and knew I was in serious trouble for later on. However I tried to run it mile by mile and minimise my losses as best I could. By mile 18 I could no longer run uphill and at mile 20 the back/glut thing went into left leg sending hamstring into a spasm/cramp forcing me into a tent for treatment.

While in there I realise I was only in the ha'penny place. There was a young lad on a stretcher with paramedics shining a light into his eye.

I managed to run/jog the last miles and snuck in under the 4 hours - about 10 - 15 minutes shy of what target was. Not putting anybody off - I have a chronic injury and try to manage it but today it knocked the shit out of me and I have to say it was a very tough last hour and a half. Yeah I was disappointed during the race but after, philisophical enough because by mile 16 I could not see how I could get through it at all and felt like abandoning completely but I just managed to limp home. Also cant complain because I ve had a good year and did my best 5K, 10K, 10 mile and half by some distance and even today in spite of all the drama I was only a few minutes off last years time. Ye have to be philisophical about this stuff.

Hope everybody got through it ok. There was a young lad down past the finish and he appeared to be in some trouble. Then there was a report of same lad I think, still in hospital this evening being treated. Hopefully he s fully recovered. That s the important thing.

As usual the support was brilliant. The event is a credit to the old city.

Well done, marathons are thee hardest thing to do I'd imagine, have never made it past 16 miles (was three satges or a relay) and was fcuked at that.

Might do one next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on October 28, 2013, 11:44:38 PM
Well done to Bingo, moysider and any other posters that took part in the marathon. Bingo, that is a massive effort, I seem to remember its only about two years since you bought a pair of runners?!

moy, as you said that's sport - fair play for hanging in and getting through it.

Hope to do a marathon myself at some stage, going to target a half marathon in the first quarter of next year and maybe by early 2015 I will be up to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
Hard luck Moy, I'd say you were happy to see the finish line

Great buzz around yesterday, made me regret not doing it. Plenty of Mayo bibs in there too, John Byrne finished high up, I didnt see the team results but couldnt have been far off Clonliffe.

Delighted for Maria McCambridge, she trains me and you couldnt meet a nicer girl, genuine, down to earth and sound. Got absolutely shafted in 2012 and its fantastic to see her win this.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 10:08:17 AM
She's been shafted quite a few times by athletics ireland mayo4sam.

Was also very glad to see her winning it. Some competitor who never gives up and sounds like she had to dig deep yesterday for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
I only read this mornign that she stopped for a whizz at mile 18!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Ha, more similarities to Paula Radcliffe then!

Moysider one of our guys lasted till 3 mile with the same issue you seem to have. I've also had that one myself before and it's a nasty one. Fair play to you for finishing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2013, 10:58:27 AM
Race report (of sorts). Actually very long, so feel free to read or not  ;)

Like championships, they say you have to lose one to win one. Well going into this, I felt well prepared and had learnt so much after two previous attempts over the distance. Last year in Dublin was a new experience and I was happy at just over 3.40, got to know the course and knew what the last 5 miles felt like. Connemara was an eye-opener, tough course, beautiful course but little support round it. Thought i was well prepared and ran like I was but in hindsight was miles off. Championship was lost!

Going to yesterday, I'd a training programme and stuck to it largely, say 95%, Learned a recovery run was that, listened to the body and worked off that principle. Meant i got to the line, fresh and in good shape.

Last year, I stayed up in Dublin the night before but didn't sleep well. This year a few of us decided to drive up on the morning. Worked out well. Set off at 6am, quick toilet stop and leg stretch in the Applegreen and we were parked up just off Earlsfort terrace at 7.30am. Next hour and half flew in, change by the car, bag dropped, toilet stop and off to the starting pen.

I was in first wave, the other lads where behind me in wave 2. Was happy at that, wanted to run "alone" (you are never alone in Dublin). Chatted to lad from Athboy at the start, first timer aiming for 3.40, wished each other good look and off.

The first 2 miles are a bit mad. Everyone jostling for position, trying to keep with the pacers and the pace is up and down. Special mention to the the two clowns at junction of Grafton St and Nassau st coming home from there night out in fancy dress suits who decided they couldn't wait any longer and tried to cross through the runners. I had to move quickly to avoid them and nearly took a runner down by clipping his ankles, he was grand and had seen what happened.

I ran with KM's on the garmin, had trained this way and just stuck with it. First one was just over 5min, was last of them for a while. Field started to stretch out and great noise all round. Entered at the Phoenix park right on pace at about 4.44m/Km. Alot availing of open spaces for a toilet break, so joined them unexpectedly, thought I was dry at this stage  ;)

Passed one of the other blayney rockets on chesterfield avenue. He was struggling to get a pace, had a quick chat and I pushed on. Keeping the 3.20 pacers in sight. Plan was to do first half in 1.40 and then keep that going for as long as possible, 3.30 should be doable or hang on and beat 3.25.

While overall the pace was holding up, I was struggling to get a rthym. Was constantly checking myself, too fast, too slow. By time I left Phoenix Park was more confortable and working into a good pace. 3.20's just ahead and gap was slowly narrowing.

Chapelizod is one of my favourite parts. After the nice calm and openness of the aprk, its a wall of noise that continues up to half way mark. Huge crowds all along and came across the first local Blayney crowd in Kilmainham, just past the Raddisson, quick smile and thumbs up.

Crossed the half way mark in 1.39.48 as per my Garmin, almost bang on and was right on tail of 3.20 pacers. Was great energy running with them. The long run up to Crumlin and the Childrens hopital, was long and windy. Was tough going, I just tucked into the group and got some shelter. Started in the group through Terenure, pace was spot still doing 4.40km/m and felt very comfortable.

Round Milltown, about 16m mark I think, I took some notion and edged ahead of the 3.20 group. Not sure why but was just moving well and enjoyed the open road. Maybe this was a mistake.

Another tough part of the course is down into Clonskeagh and up to UCD. Very open, uphill draw and crowd gets sparse. Was tough to keep the pace up but managed it. Roebuck Hill, is a bump really. Lucozade had a Wall of Noise here to encourage everyone. DJ, drinks, cheerleaders and the Gooch! I missed him as opposite him was the cheerleaders  :D

By now I was having to work that wee bit harder. I knew the UCD flyover was going and this time last year, I started to suffer and slow down. Got over it and down past UCD. Worker harder now and pace was dropping, 4.40 where closer to 4.50 and felt it.

About 1km from the RDS, the 3.20 pacers came past. I didn't try to keep with them, just dug and keep them in sight. It was tough going, knew the end was in sight but wasn't much left. After the RDS, right turn down towards the RDS, pace was creeping over 4.50 and felt it. Then he appeared!

Eddie Murphy, former Monaghan player and GAA clubmate was out on course as his sister was running. He'd be a few years older but was always someone I'd have looked up to, played Club championship from 16 years old, never drank and give everything on the field, a leader who hated losing. Over the club U10's at the minute and is a joy to watch with them. He spotted me coming and was out on road beside me, fists pumping, full of encouragement, less then 3 to go and told me I had them beat, don't let them back in it!! Funny in hindsight but thats his way.

Give me a great lift. Dug deeper and kept going. Into a breeze now and tall buildings seemed to funnel it into us. No hiding places now. Huge support and noise again though.

Turned into last mile, passed the finished line as the course winds down. 3.20's where just gone out of sight. More locals on the course, bellowed encouragement at corner of Pearse St (I think). Down this road, I could hear some roaring coming behind me, one very loud voice, absolutely roaring. It then passed me and was another runner, a man in his forties easily. He was roaring for about 200m, just raw encouragement and the corwd was going nuts with him. Talked to him over the finish line and it was his first marathon, always said he'd do one, started in second wave and finished in 3.11!

It lifted everyone and you could hear the finish. Kept going. I thought i was really going slow at this stage and was all out, nothing left. But looking back it was only until 39km that i just went over 5min/km (8m mile), worst km was 5.30km/min. But it felt like a crawl.

Just coming past Trinity and got another lift, Phil Quigley from Wexford who I worked with and keep in touch with. Texted me after and said I looked horific but managed to break a smile. I can barely remember!

The home straight! Up Nassau will live with me a long time. The noise and support was just unreal, field was well strung out so people home in on you. It gives you a taste of what professional sportsmen experience, makes you feel ten feet tall. Even the marshalls on the course are all over you, pure goodwill. Bart and his wife who done Connemara where the first people I could pick out, then another group from home, name coming from all angles. Nearer the finish was another group from home, they started chanting my name, others joined in. I give them a few fist pumps. One of them sent me a photo from it and I was beaming with smile. Can't remember smiling to be honest.

Only on the last home straight did I relax. Before that I thought I was done and at any stage the legs would go. Now I was sure I'd get well inside 3.25 and all goals where well beat.

Felt on top of the world crossiing the line, in contrast to last year and connemara.

Then bang!! You stop running and can't walk and for next 15 minutes it just agongy and the long walk to collect bags. Medal collected and it looks great in fairness.

Afterwards, just took time out, got the legs right and changed. Man beside me went to claim the steps to get siting and immediately went into cramp on the leg he lifted up. Managed to grap him before he fell off steps and thankfully one of the roaming physios spotted him and did some running repairs. Ten mins later he was changed and off for pints  :)

Had a long wait then for the younger brother. We trained alot togther and it was his first. He targeted 3.40, maybe better. No sign. Bart texted then to say he just passed on home straight. I knew he was in trouble and was over 4hrs. He eventually got round in 4hrs 11m. Said after 13m he was in trouble, back pain and legs gone. He'd be struggling with flu and colds the last few weeks but hadn't said much. Just hit him. On the 21m runs we did, he was easily doing 8min/m pace. He was very disappointed but when the body says no, it means it. Wasn't for lack of training. He was on run/walk from 17miles.

Took our time and rang the Mammy (who can sleep again, a bit worrier). Got back to car and headed down road, pulled into Applegreen where the Burger King was been overrun by Marathon runners looking a junk food fix. Got home shortly after 4 and was quizzed by the wee lad for about half a hour asking if I won, why didn't I win, did the team win, why was I sore, could I not play a match with him etc etc.

Headed out with them for a feed. Had a pint but by team I was finished I was done and was home and in bed by 9, with a struggle staying that long.

Overall It was a wonderful experience. My training plan was 3 months long and I put everything in it. In hindsight and during it I really struggled to find time to fit it in but I did. Nights out went out the window, one night out in 3 months was when the Club had its Gathering weekend. I watched what I ate, rested when I could and put alot into the runs. I was determined to give it a good shot. And it paid off. I'm not the shape of an natural athlete but have a good engine and used that.

Will I do another? I said in last 5km, I wouldn't even consider it for next year. But when I texted my pal who started me running at end of Summer 2011, he said we'd target 3.10 next year, maybe in berlin  :) We've ran alot togther but haven't run a marathon together as he went back to play football this year. So its a case of maybe at this stage. Maybe do Half maratons and 10kms in the spring.

Final word for the spectators and volunteers on the course. Just unreal. Don't think you can appreciate what it means until you in the inside on the road. They stand for hours and hours, shouting your name, giving you sweets, fruit, drinks. Its just unreal and is easily worth minutes off your time. So fair play to all.

Ballinaman - cheers for the help and  encouragement last few years. Much apprecaited. I likely heard you on the course but was getting so much shout outs it was hard to get the head up.

Moysider - tough look this time but real guts to get it finished. Fair play.

Loaislad - Over to you for next year  ;)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on October 29, 2013, 11:11:54 AM
Brilliant story Bingo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Ha, more similarities to Paula Radcliffe then!

Moysider one of our guys lasted till 3 mile with the same issue you seem to have. I've also had that one myself before and it's a nasty one. Fair play to you for finishing.
Hard luck Moysider, I had a nightmare in 2011 too, just used the experience as nothing will ever feel as bad as that again.
Funny, when things go wrong, they go badly wrong in the marathon. Had a friend going to for sub 3 yesterday - (8th attempt) forced to drop out at 18 while bang on target with an achilles problem that came from nowhere.

You're surrounded by 14,000 runners and people all over on the course but there are few places as lonely as when you are in bits in the marathon staring down 6+ miles to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 11:59:51 AM
Savage stuff Bingo. I think I might have to go for a run tonight when I get home after reading that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
Hard luck Moy, I'd say you were happy to see the finish line

Great buzz around yesterday, made me regret not doing it. Plenty of Mayo bibs in there too, John Byrne finished high up, I didnt see the team results but couldnt have been far off Clonliffe.

Delighted for Maria McCambridge, she trains me and you couldnt meet a nicer girl, genuine, down to earth and sound. Got absolutely shafted in 2012 and its fantastic to see her win this.
He gave me a big clenched fist around mile 23....he was flying. Mayo AC came 2nd team over 35.

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?page_id=160

Results are here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 01:06:22 PM
Tom
Horkan
M
Ballina A.C.
4:14:25

Unbelievable
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 29, 2013, 02:06:05 PM
Respect to all who attempted and even better succeeded with the marathon. It's beyond my comprehension frankly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 29, 2013, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
Hard luck Moy, I'd say you were happy to see the finish line

Great buzz around yesterday, made me regret not doing it. Plenty of Mayo bibs in there too, John Byrne finished high up, I didnt see the team results but couldnt have been far off Clonliffe.

Delighted for Maria McCambridge, she trains me and you couldnt meet a nicer girl, genuine, down to earth and sound. Got absolutely shafted in 2012 and its fantastic to see her win this.
He gave me a big clenched fist around mile 23....he was flying. Mayo AC came 2nd team over 35.

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?page_id=160

Results are here.

That site does not include all runners.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 29, 2013, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 29, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
Hard luck Moy, I'd say you were happy to see the finish line

Great buzz around yesterday, made me regret not doing it. Plenty of Mayo bibs in there too, John Byrne finished high up, I didnt see the team results but couldnt have been far off Clonliffe.

Delighted for Maria McCambridge, she trains me and you couldnt meet a nicer girl, genuine, down to earth and sound. Got absolutely shafted in 2012 and its fantastic to see her win this.
He gave me a big clenched fist around mile 23....he was flying. Mayo AC came 2nd team over 35.

http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?page_id=160

Results are here.

That site does not include all runners.
Saw that, only club runners. Full results in the independent today or if you know the name of the person you are looking for you can look at their splits here...

http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLIN-2013#b=na&v=ptrack
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 29, 2013, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Ha, more similarities to Paula Radcliffe then!

Moysider one of our guys lasted till 3 mile with the same issue you seem to have. I've also had that one myself before and it's a nasty one. Fair play to you for finishing.
Hard luck Moysider, I had a nightmare in 2011 too, just used the experience as nothing will ever feel as bad as that again.
Funny, when things go wrong, they go badly wrong in the marathon. Had a friend going to for sub 3 yesterday - (8th attempt) forced to drop out at 18 while bang on target with an achilles problem that came from nowhere.

You're surrounded by 14,000 runners and people all over on the course but there are few places as lonely as when you are in bits in the marathon staring down 6+ miles to go.

I actually felt embarrassed having to walk. People must have thought I was awful watery because I wasn t even tired let alone exhausted.

Can t believe how fresh I feel today. I could go out and do a run. It doesn t feel like I ran a marathon. No soreness and very little fatigue in calves or quads. Took an ani-inflam. last night and things had calmed down this morning.

So I went to have some work done on my lower back earlier today. Piriformis Syndrome is what I m told was to blame. I ve had this problem for years and probably have not managed it too wisely. I should have heeded my missus and got this therapist to treat me before the marathon.

I usually drive myself to events. I have an automatic jeep and its like driving in an armchair and you emerge fresh 3/4 hrs later. Saturday, I agreed to take a lift with mates and ended up climbing out of the back of the car in a hoop. I remember joking at the time ' am I walking like somebody who is going to run 26 miles tomorrow morning?'.

Consolation is that I should recover quickly and may get a few good 10k times before the end of the year. Have to say I thought I d be more disappointed. I d be more disappointed if I ran out of gas. I think I left a good race after me because of what happened and if I can get this injury sorted I could do a good one in Spring or later. Crazy because for last hour 1/2 yesterday I was cursing and swearing that I d never run again let alone attempt a marathon :'(

Apologies if I m going on about this, it may help somebody with something similar.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 29, 2013, 10:58:27 AM

Loaislad - Over to you for next year  ;)

As you've only just ran a marathon yesterday I'll forgive you for spelling Laois wrong  ;)

To be honest after reading your report (brilliantly told by the way) I'm filled with excitement and dread in equal measures at the thought of doing it next year.
I can tell you one thing for sure I won't be doing it in anything like the time you achieved!! I'd say you could add another hour onto that time and I'd be happy!


The home straight! Up Nassau will live with me a long time. The noise and support was just unreal, field was well strung out so people home in on you. It gives you a taste of what professional sportsmen experience, makes you feel ten feet tall.

I haven't a blade of hair on my head but if I did they would all be standing when I read that bit.

Well done again Bingo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haveaharp on October 29, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Great post Bingo - inspiring stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 09:03:10 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J2X-Fitness-Spiky-Massage-Ball-/130872795273?pt=UK_Health_Massage_RL&hash=item1e78a06089 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J2X-Fitness-Spiky-Massage-Ball-/130872795273?pt=UK_Health_Massage_RL&hash=item1e78a06089)

Moysider that is very helpful for piriformis. Few exercises on youtube. Not for the faint hearted.

Yes inspiring report bingo. Must step up myself someday!

Always stands out to me after hearing about dublin how much superior to belfast it is. If or when i do one it'll be dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2013, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2013, 09:03:10 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J2X-Fitness-Spiky-Massage-Ball-/130872795273?pt=UK_Health_Massage_RL&hash=item1e78a06089 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J2X-Fitness-Spiky-Massage-Ball-/130872795273?pt=UK_Health_Massage_RL&hash=item1e78a06089)

Moysider that is very helpful for piriformis. Few exercises on youtube. Not for the faint hearted.

Yes inspiring report bingo. Must step up myself someday!

Always stands out to me after hearing about dublin how much superior to belfast it is. If or when i do one it'll be dublin.
You'll do a serious time too with your ability!

That massage ball is a serious bit of kit if you can get your hands on it. I get lads to use a sliotár too if there is one around the house. Lying on your back, knee bent, place sliotár under your glute and drop you're bent knee out to the side. Piriformis is in the centre of your glute, deep, pear shaped muscle. Drop out onto it for 90 seconds, just got to hold the pressure, about 2 reps twice daily is plenty.

Go this in the post when I got home from work tonight. Shit just got real now!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXxXrAIIQAA4Rr7.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on October 30, 2013, 12:25:25 AM
Jaysys Bingo, great post.

The hairs on the back of my neck were standing up reading that!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 30, 2013, 09:08:39 AM
Maria was out for our training last nite, said when she stopped to go to the toilet she didnt realise the girl in second had overtaken and almost paniked but kept it cool and at three miles to go while she wasnt closing the gap knew she had enough in the tank to go for home and kicked on.
Amazing to hear first hand what is going through someones head
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2013, 10:25:55 AM
Cheers lads for the comments on the report.

Legs more normal today, few more days rest and then its all about the Castleblayney 5KM on 1st December, lot of local pride to race for that day! Entries open on Runireland for anyone in the area that fancies a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 30, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 30, 2013, 10:25:55 AM
Cheers lads for the comments on the report.

Legs more normal today, few more days rest and then its all about the Castleblayney 5KM on 1st December, lot of local pride to race for that day! Entries open on Runireland for anyone in the area that fancies a go.

Great stuff yesterday fella, pretty inspirational stuff and may encourage an auld fat lad like me to start running again now that I am free in the evenings ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 31, 2013, 09:08:22 AM
RIP
Very sad when hes so young
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 31, 2013, 11:05:30 AM
Very sad news re the death. RIP.

He finished in 3.10, so was likely still been looked after as I finished 12mins after him. Never even noticed anything amiss round the finish area.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
https://www.justgiving.com/RickiSavage/ (https://www.justgiving.com/RickiSavage/)

His justgiving page. Hopefully something positive can come out of it and with some publicity at least a good bit of money could be raised for charity.

Terrible news. That's someone in the half and now the full marathon. RIP.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
https://www.justgiving.com/RickiSavage/ (https://www.justgiving.com/RickiSavage/)

His justgiving page. Hopefully something positive can come out of it and with some publicity at least a good bit of money could be raised for charity.

Terrible news. That's someone in the half and now the full marathon. RIP.

On that Tommy, how many people a year would die in recognised races a year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2013, 11:37:19 AM
Good question MR...

4 have died this year in Ireland - 1 in Dublin half marathon, 1 in Dublin full marathon, 1 in a 26 extreme night race and 1 in a mourne mountain race (seven sevens). I've never heard of anyone dying over here in the time I've been involved in running before this but someone told me this morning a guy died after Dublin in 2006.

There have been a good few deaths (I think) in the Great North Run over the years. The girl who died in London marathon the other year got a lot of publicity and raised a lot of money but I have heard of a few more - a guy drowned one year (internally) with excessive water.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
Fella died in 2006 in Connemara half.

Unfortunately it is a risk. Was running earlier and Doc that runs with us said that there are so many things that could cause it. However he thinks there are 2 things to watch out for.
1. A family history of youngish SADS.
2. A history of fainting/weakness/ dizziness during physical exertion.

There is also the unnatural stress on the heart of pumping for 3,4,5 hours at a high rate.

Also a lot of people will run marathons feeling less than 100% on the day due to a touch of flu or sore throat. Most people - having done the training - will not stand down because of a bit of a temperature. But some of these viruses affect the heart too. No trouble 99.999% of time but a marathon is different.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 02, 2013, 02:46:25 AM
944 at south bank (Brisbane) this morning first birthday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 02, 2013, 12:43:04 PM
Back on the road this morning, done a nice 5miles and felt great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for fucks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jonah on November 04, 2013, 09:40:27 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.

My brother done it.He is fecked today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.

Heard there was alot of queuing round the place unless you got away in the first wave. Done it twice and enjoyed it.

Whats the story on results? Read somewhere that it isn't chipped anymore?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Seen that alright, a few people I knew doing it where commenting on it and panicking a bit.

Heard they started charging for car parking as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Seen that alright, a few people I knew doing it where commenting on it and panicking a bit.

Heard they started charging for car parking as well.
Suppose you sign a load of wavers to do a race like that, dodgy enough though to put it up and then take it down!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 04, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Seen that alright, a few people I knew doing it where commenting on it and panicking a bit.

Heard they started charging for car parking as well.
Suppose you sign a load of wavers to do a race like that, dodgy enough though to put it up and then take it down!

There was only one queue, for about 10 minutes a pointless wait to pick up a log and run with it, as for the weils disease, it only applied to anyone with open cuts, they were told to avoid the stagnant water sections, as for timing, there were no chipped timing, i brought my own watch, i was in the second last wave and all in all the queues were non existence, you just had to barge your way through in some sections.

Some of the injuries i saw were quite severe, badly sprained ankles, wrists, people having minor hypothermia, for this type of run, people should have some level of fitness and some bit of experience of cross country running, the downhill was as tough as up hill, the numbers will have to be reduced for next year i'd say.... it was a good workout, but besides scratched shins, no pain at all today. A fun day out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 04, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 04, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Seen that alright, a few people I knew doing it where commenting on it and panicking a bit.

Heard they started charging for car parking as well.
Suppose you sign a load of wavers to do a race like that, dodgy enough though to put it up and then take it down!

There was only one queue, for about 10 minutes a pointless wait to pick up a log and run with it, as for the weils disease, it only applied to anyone with open cuts, they were told to avoid the stagnant water sections, as for timing, there were no chipped timing, i brought my own watch, i was in the second last wave and all in all the queues were non existence, you just had to barge your way through in some sections.
No bother to a bogman mucker like yourself!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 04, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 04, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 04, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 04, 2013, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 03, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Just in the door from Hell and Back, a good old stretch of the legs, the mini Sugar loaf and the last two K, were the toughest as the pace was sooooooooooo slow, a lot of queues at some of the obstacles, just jump into the river for f**ks sake... >:(..........did it in 1 hour 55,am bloody delighted............will be stiff tomorrow, i expect, the winner did the 14k in 1.14....

All in all a good day out.
What was the story about the warnings about the rat disease that can be passed through water that was published by the organisers the day before the race and then taken down 20 mins later? Dodgy enough...
Seen that alright, a few people I knew doing it where commenting on it and panicking a bit.

Heard they started charging for car parking as well.
Suppose you sign a load of wavers to do a race like that, dodgy enough though to put it up and then take it down!

There was only one queue, for about 10 minutes a pointless wait to pick up a log and run with it, as for the weils disease, it only applied to anyone with open cuts, they were told to avoid the stagnant water sections, as for timing, there were no chipped timing, i brought my own watch, i was in the second last wave and all in all the queues were non existence, you just had to barge your way through in some sections.
No bother to a bogman mucker like yourself!!

Indeed LL some of your county men never saw a bog hole before...i had to stick the pointy elbows out and shove on.....20 years as a small hill farmers son in Mayo stood well to me,we are like the Kenyans, we have a genetic advantage when it comes to bog running!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 05, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Anyone here do plyometrics?

If so for long and have you found them very beneficial?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on November 05, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 05, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Anyone here do plyometrics?

If so for long and have you found them very beneficial?

Don't do it myself but I know the lads on our Senior team do it religiously before every training session and match and it's the most injury free year we've ever had. Lot's of bunny hop jumps, squat jumps, side jumps and a great hamstring one. Basically you need a partner, you kneel down and keep your back straight and the partner holds your feet, you fall forward slowly using your hamstring to try and keep yourself up... brilliant exercise!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 05, 2013, 11:55:09 AM
I saw Coughlan had the Mayo lads at it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2013, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 05, 2013, 11:55:09 AM
I saw Coughlan had the Mayo lads at it
Called Russian hamstring exercise.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2013, 01:26:32 PM
Eccentric hamstring loading??

I've tried that one but definitely one you need a partner for I think and I would generally do gym stuff on my own...

Pliometrics are good stuff - more for power / explosiveness I'd have thought though than the middle to long distance running. That being said though I've long been tempted to try a phase of them to see if it improves the stride / bounciness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
Pliometrics seems like Insanity, a lot of jumping and core work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 07, 2013, 04:00:28 AM
Looking for a bit of advice on blisters.

Went for a run (9.5k) Wed 2 weeks ago and picked up a bit of a blister on my left arch. I have flat feet, but this hasnt been a major issue before now.

Had the Tough Mudder on the following Sunday (20km + obstacles), which turned my small blister into a major mud-filled blister which covered the whole of my arch.

Cut it open and cleaned it, antiseptic and the whole lot. Healed up nicely, so much that I stuck a bandaid on and went for a jog last night, intending to do about 6km. Got lost, ended up running 9km and have a small blister again.

Should I:
Change my runners - they are relatively new and I can;t remember this being an issue with other runners. If this is the answer, what should I be looking for - more or less arch support?
Get arch supports, wait for blister to heal and carry on
Keep repeating the blister/rest/heal process until the area has calloused up and strengthened
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on November 07, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
I know of a lad who got a bacterial infection from the mud at tough mudder, ended up in hospital for 6 weeks.  Disclaimers are signed etc but they aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 07, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
Generally on blisters I've found it happen by:

New Runners - just break them in over shorter runs.

Ill-fitting runners - rubbing on certain parts of foot. This can even be caused by runners not been correctly tied ie too loose. Careful not to tie too tight as can cause other problems.

Poor quality socks - not retaining moisture correctly.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 07, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on November 07, 2013, 04:00:28 AM

Had the Tough Mudder on the following Sunday (20km + obstacles), which turned my small blister into a major mud-filled blister which covered the whole of my arch.

Cut it open and cleaned it, antiseptic and the whole lot.

Sounds deadly! Any pictures? Nothing as satisfying as cutting open a blister or puss filled sore and seeing everything ooze out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on November 07, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
I used to have great craic squeezing puss from my in-grown toenail! ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 08, 2013, 03:42:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 07, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on November 07, 2013, 04:00:28 AM

Had the Tough Mudder on the following Sunday (20km + obstacles), which turned my small blister into a major mud-filled blister which covered the whole of my arch.

Cut it open and cleaned it, antiseptic and the whole lot.

Sounds deadly! Any pictures? Nothing as satisfying as cutting open a blister or puss filled sore and seeing everything ooze out.

Of course I have pictures. Wouldnt go through all that for nothing!

Quote from: southdown on November 07, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
I know of a lad who got a bacterial infection from the mud at tough mudder, ended up in hospital for 6 weeks.  Disclaimers are signed etc but they aren't worth the paper they are written on.

yeah I made sure to soak it in a Dettol solution every night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 08, 2013, 02:56:29 PM
Went for a run this morning at 7am round the local forest park and lake. Was a cracking morning and a brillant start to the day, no better place to run was hardly a ripple on the lake.

Castleblayney 5KM on 1st December. Very pleased to announce that former Irish Athlete Catherina McKiernan will be attending and will be guest speaker at the post race presentation in the hotel after the race. She'll give a talk to all in attendence. Niall Moyna done this last year, and Gerry Duffy (Endurance runner) has also filled this space, he will be back as well this year.

Great event and all for a €10.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on November 11, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
I'm after a bit of advice on the marathon training. I'm planning on going for the Belfast marathon next May - a 16 week training plan would have me starting around week beginning 6 January. I do a bit of running at the minute - anything from 5 to 8 mile a couple of times a week. I also play a bit of indoor at lunch time in work a couple of days and go to the odd circuits class. What I'm wondering is should I pack in the circuits and indoor when I start the marathon training? I'm thinking the first 3 or 4 weeks of the training seems to  be light enough so maybe I could play on at that stage but when I start getting up into the longer runs I should maybe just concentrate on the running? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 16, 2013, 07:46:17 AM
Do any of you know if any of the parkruns in belfast are doing a christmas/New Years day run? Our local one is running on Christmas Day and was thinking it would be a nice was to start the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 16, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 11, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
I'm after a bit of advice on the marathon training. I'm planning on going for the Belfast marathon next May - a 16 week training plan would have me starting around week beginning 6 January. I do a bit of running at the minute - anything from 5 to 8 mile a couple of times a week. I also play a bit of indoor at lunch time in work a couple of days and go to the odd circuits class. What I'm wondering is should I pack in the circuits and indoor when I start the marathon training? I'm thinking the first 3 or 4 weeks of the training seems to  be light enough so maybe I could play on at that stage but when I start getting up into the longer runs I should maybe just concentrate on the running? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.

I ran my first marathon in Nov 2002 when I was still togging out to play GAA every weekend. I found that I lost a bit of pace on the pitch and that a few match related niggles had a serious impact on the training for the marathon. Long distance running and contact sport don't mix.
I'd keep at the circuits and try to do a bit of speed/tempo work as part of your training - i know most of the plans build this in (and most people ignore it) but it is really important. Also - make sure you always do the 'recovery' runs that are planned even if it's freezing outside and you're sore from the previous day! Good luck with the training - a good wee training race for you would be the http://carabundoranrun.com/ (http://carabundoranrun.com/) I ran it last year and it was one of the most enjoyable runs I've taken part in in years. Lovely atmosphere and a good competitive and fast field.

There's also the https://walledcitymarathon.primo-solutions.co.uk/ps/event/TheSSERenewablesWalledCityMarathon (https://walledcitymarathon.primo-solutions.co.uk/ps/event/TheSSERenewablesWalledCityMarathon) Derry marathon in June - if you do Belfast you'll be in shape for that one too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.
Your missus will locking herself in the bathroom!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2013, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.

Fair play LL, you'll be we'll and truly bitten by the bug now. Great feeling crossing that line when you know you've given everything on way to it. You'll be in runireland now looking the next race!

Takeyerpoints, very hard to combine the five a side and a training programme. Five a side is all stop start, turning, contact, bursts etc. Distance running for the marathon is all straight lines. You'd be able to keep it up for few weeks but if you want to give the marathon a good shot and when miles pick up its best leaving it. You want to be fresh and ready for the long runs and rest with the programme is important. Plus it's easy to pick up a kick or rib injury in the five a side.

Circuits be fine but hard to play five a side. Body under lot of stress as it is as miles increase, rest day is a training day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.
Your missus will locking herself in the bathroom!

Nope she's safe. There is a bun cooking in that particular oven.

When you gonna start running yourself? It's two years since you said you would start!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2013, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.
Your missus will locking herself in the bathroom!

Nope she's safe. There is a bun cooking in that particular oven.

When you gonna start running yourself? It's two years since you said you would start!

He talks a good game
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 16, 2013, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.

Well done what was your time in the end?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on November 16, 2013, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.

Well done what was your time in the end?
53min18sec.
Without the hills I reckon I'd have gone under 50min.!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 16, 2013, 09:48:59 PM
Super time Laoislad, fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 16, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on November 16, 2013, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.

Well done what was your time in the end?
53min18sec.
Without the hills I reckon I'd have gone under 50min.!
Good man I did the same course in a similar time, those hills are tough.

Congrats on the bun!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2013, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 16, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Done my first official run event today,a 10km in the Phoenix Park for Movember.

Took Orior's I think it was advice and found the best arse in front of me and followed that.But I eventually lost him so had to find another one then  ;).

Was a great buzz crossing the finishing line,I can only imagine what it would be like to finish a marathon.
Was delighted as I knocked over a minute of my 10km best time and especially as the route included two hills,well one hill that you had to go up twice and the second time nearly killed me! but most of my running before that was on the flat so to knock a minute off my PB I was delighted.

Was nervous doing my first event but have the bug now and already looking to enter something else.
Your missus will locking herself in the bathroom!

Nope she's safe. There is a bun cooking in that particular oven.

When you gonna start running yourself? It's two years since you said you would start!

He talks a good game
Funny I just said to my Ma 5 mins ago as I poured another Magners and grabbed another bag of crisps that I would need to sort myself out. There is no point this side of Christmas.

LL, I thought I noticed a bump on a photo the other day but you can never be too careful when commenting on things like that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on November 17, 2013, 08:54:51 AM
Just finished playing and have very recently took to 5k running, taking 20 min to complete a fairly flat course, would like to get time down but also like doing a bit of gym work during week, any tips to combine the two
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 17, 2013, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 17, 2013, 08:54:51 AM
Just finished playing and have very recently took to 5k running, taking 20 min to complete a fairly flat course, would like to get time down but also like doing a bit of gym work during week, any tips to combine the two
3 gym sessions and 3 run's a week isn't a bad target. One gym session concentrating on legs - squats,hamstring curls, russian step ups, leg press, walking lunges, calf raises, glute bridges ect...

Running
Session 1: Speedwork - interval training for 5K, 800m repeats, 400m repeats, 2 mins on/1 min off, hill repeats, ect
Session 2 : Tempo running,lactate threshold running : 1 mile warm up - 3-5 mile tempo pace (just below race pace), 1 -2 mile warm down
Session 3 : Long slow run, 8-10 mile comfortable.

That's just a general plan, the interval,tempo, long slow run is a good template to follow.

Quality not quantity is where you you make your gains. People do lots of so called "junk miles" were you're just out for the sake of being out...as Joe Brolly would say...going through the motions.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 18, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
21 years ago I ran a 5 mile road race in just under 30 minutes.

Now I would need cardiac massage after 30 metres.

Quote from: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

Pretty wrecked.

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Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Quote
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Muppet, keep her lit, I am just back running after a long lay off (serious injury, my leg had a very bad case of lazy arsed-itis!).  You and I can compare our absolute shitedness in terms of metres coverd and days taken!!!  BTW, you have an absolute unfair physical advantage over me, I am a fat b**tard!

Just back from Monsoon training an hour ago.

Went all the way back to the start of C25K. I am determined to finish this time.

Quote from: muppet on August 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Back to week 1 again. Attempt number 4.  ::)

I'll run a 5k yet if it f*cking kills me.

Quote from: muppet on September 17, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Fair play LL.

I have to start again.

5 k*kking K!

30 mins exactly but I don't care.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 18, 2013, 07:12:29 PM
Fair play muppet.
I'll see you at the start of the Marathon next October!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 18, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 18, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
21 years ago I ran a 5 mile road race in just under 30 minutes.

Now I would need cardiac massage after 30 metres.

Quote from: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

Pretty wrecked.

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Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Muppet, keep her lit, I am just back running after a long lay off (serious injury, my leg had a very bad case of lazy arsed-itis!).  You and I can compare our absolute shitedness in terms of metres coverd and days taken!!!  BTW, you have an absolute unfair physical advantage over me, I am a fat b**tard!

Just back from Monsoon training an hour ago.

Went all the way back to the start of C25K. I am determined to finish this time.

Quote from: muppet on August 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Back to week 1 again. Attempt number 4.  ::)

I'll run a 5k yet if it f*cking kills me.

Quote from: muppet on September 17, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Fair play LL.

I have to start again.

5 k*kking K!

30 mins exactly but I don't care.
Well done Muppet. You two bastards are making me feel guilty! This apple crumble is making the feeling pass though  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 18, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 18, 2013, 07:12:29 PM
Fair play muppet.
I'll see you at the start of the Marathon next October!

You will on your arse.

If I get up to 10k I will be thrilled.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 19, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 18, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 18, 2013, 07:12:29 PM
Fair play muppet.
I'll see you at the start of the Marathon next October!

You will on your arse.

If I get up to 10k I will be thrilled.

Brilliant Muppet. Well done on the 5k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 19, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
Ran 5k for the first time in a couple of months on Sunday as I recover from a knee/hip/glute injury. Calf feels like someone has lodged a nail in it - looks a bit bruised as well. Swam yesterday to try and reduce the aches but just as sore today. Any ideas to take the pain out of it? Scheduled to run this evening but might give it a miss.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redhandloo on November 19, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
Quote from: CD on November 19, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
Ran 5k for the first time in a couple of months on Sunday as I recover from a knee/hip/glute injury. Calf feels like someone has lodged a nail in it - looks a bit bruised as well. Swam yesterday to try and reduce the aches but just as sore today. Any ideas to take the pain out of it? Scheduled to run this evening but might give it a miss.
Foam roller a great job for muscle recovery
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 19, 2013, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: CD on November 19, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
Ran 5k for the first time in a couple of months on Sunday as I recover from a knee/hip/glute injury. Calf feels like someone has lodged a nail in it - looks a bit bruised as well. Swam yesterday to try and reduce the aches but just as sore today. Any ideas to take the pain out of it? Scheduled to run this evening but might give it a miss.

If it feels like that and looks bruised then it must be a bit of a tear. Probably need to rest it a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 19, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
Fair play Muppet
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
Great stuff Muppet.

Keep her lit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 21, 2013, 06:05:05 PM
Lads - just used this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgu6poYC-lk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgu6poYC-lk) as a post run stretch. Was having lots of aches and pains - this works for me. Requires a wee bit of flexibility.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 22, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.

Good man yerself! Good running. make sure you do those stretches - the good looking blade in the link above will help!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 22, 2013, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.


Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.

Good man. Fair play. A long way from couch to half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 22, 2013, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
well done LL mighty stuff. I have not ran in about 8 weeks so time to get on the horse again this weekend back starting from scratch again fitness wise. Whatever about fitness need to start running again to help clear my head.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 22, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Well done muppett on the 5k keep her lit and good luck on sunday hope ye win. Just wondering there seems to be a lot of interest in the running thread . I wonder would there be the number s to run a gaa board 10k and to raise money for pieta house in the process.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 22, 2013, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 22, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Well done muppett on the 5k keep her lit and good luck on sunday hope ye win. Just wondering there seems to be a lot of interest in the running thread . I wonder would there be the number s to run a gaa board 10k and to raise money for pieta house in the process.

Good idea.

We could call it The Troll Run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 22, 2013, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 22, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Well done muppett on the 5k keep her lit and good luck on sunday hope ye win. Just wondering there seems to be a lot of interest in the running thread . I wonder would there be the number s to run a gaa board 10k and to raise money for pieta house in the process.

Good idea.

We could call it The Troll Run.

Aye I'd be up for the 10K, any local charity is worth it. If it were part of a bigger organised race event even better as the craic would be mighty. I'd say there would be a few PB's
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.

Maybe if he hit 1.45 but 2h4min he'll not need much evidence to convice......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
You don't have to be a knob about it.
For me Its more about finishing the distances than what time I do them in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.

Maybe if he hit 1.45 but 2h4min he'll not need much evidence to convice......
Aye f**k up you :D

If and I say if the kid ran 22km then hats off to him considering he only started a while back.

2.2km would kill me :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 23, 2013, 12:07:21 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.

Maybe if he hit 1.45 but 2h4min he'll not need much evidence to convice......
Aye f**k up you :D

If and I say if the kid ran 22km then hats off to him considering he only started a while back.

2.2km would kill me :-[
Kid? Go and fcuk off with yourself you ginnet.
And I did so no ifs about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 23, 2013, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 23, 2013, 12:07:21 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.

Maybe if he hit 1.45 but 2h4min he'll not need much evidence to convice......
Aye f**k up you :D

If and I say if the kid ran 22km then hats off to him considering he only started a while back.

2.2km would kill me :-[
Kid? Go and fcuk off with yourself you ginnet.
And I did so no ifs about it.
You are younger than me, therefore kid.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2013, 09:34:38 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 23, 2013, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 23, 2013, 12:07:21 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 13, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Ran what I thought was my first half marathon tonight!
Turns out I was 77 meters short  ::)

For some reason I had it in my head a half was 21km and I ran 21.02km. When I cam home I googled it and saw a half is actually 21.097.

I'm feckin disgusted with myself! How accurate are those gps watches anyway?
Btw I ran my 21.02km in 2hrs6min which is ok I suppose for my first almost half marathon.

Ha ha ha...In your face half marathon.
Just back from a 22km run! Wasn't taking any chances tonight and I made sure I went to full half marathon distance and a little more just in case.
2hrs 4mins for the half.
Will need to see some evidence.

Maybe if he hit 1.45 but 2h4min he'll not need much evidence to convice......
Aye f**k up you :D

If and I say if the kid ran 22km then hats off to him considering he only started a while back.

2.2km would kill me :-[
Kid? Go and fcuk off with yourself you ginnet.
And I did so no ifs about it.
You are younger than me, therefore kid.

While touchy there, I was having a dig at it, fair play ffs. You liverppol lads are thicker than ones from the same county
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 23, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
You don't have to be a knob about it.
For me Its more about finishing the distances than what time I do them in.

Bloody right.

It is about coming home with the same joints you left with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 25, 2013, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 23, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
You don't have to be a knob about it.
For me Its more about finishing the distances than what time I do them in.

Bloody right.

It is about coming home with the same joints you left with.

Fact. Well done laoislad, great stuff and keep it going. To go from couch to half marathon in such a short space of time is very impressive. Times are irrelevant really, each to their own, just enjoy it.

Following on from CD with some good stretches, finding this one useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Jbooszajc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on November 25, 2013, 03:49:52 PM
Quote from: CD on November 16, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 11, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
I'm after a bit of advice on the marathon training. I'm planning on going for the Belfast marathon next May - a 16 week training plan would have me starting around week beginning 6 January. I do a bit of running at the minute - anything from 5 to 8 mile a couple of times a week. I also play a bit of indoor at lunch time in work a couple of days and go to the odd circuits class. What I'm wondering is should I pack in the circuits and indoor when I start the marathon training? I'm thinking the first 3 or 4 weeks of the training seems to  be light enough so maybe I could play on at that stage but when I start getting up into the longer runs I should maybe just concentrate on the running? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.

I ran my first marathon in Nov 2002 when I was still togging out to play GAA every weekend. I found that I lost a bit of pace on the pitch and that a few match related niggles had a serious impact on the training for the marathon. Long distance running and contact sport don't mix.
I'd keep at the circuits and try to do a bit of speed/tempo work as part of your training - i know most of the plans build this in (and most people ignore it) but it is really important. Also - make sure you always do the 'recovery' runs that are planned even if it's freezing outside and you're sore from the previous day! Good luck with the training - a good wee training race for you would be the http://carabundoranrun.com/ (http://carabundoranrun.com/) I ran it last year and it was one of the most enjoyable runs I've taken part in in years. Lovely atmosphere and a good competitive and fast field.

There's also the https://walledcitymarathon.primo-solutions.co.uk/ps/event/TheSSERenewablesWalledCityMarathon (https://walledcitymarathon.primo-solutions.co.uk/ps/event/TheSSERenewablesWalledCityMarathon) Derry marathon in June - if you do Belfast you'll be in shape for that one too!

Good man thanks (and Bingo too)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2013, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 25, 2013, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 23, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
You don't have to be a knob about it.
For me Its more about finishing the distances than what time I do them in.

Bloody right.

It is about coming home with the same joints you left with.

Fact. Well done laoislad, great stuff and keep it going. To go from couch to half marathon in such a short space of time is very impressive. Times are irrelevant really, each to their own, just enjoy it.

Thanks ballinaman but it hasn't been that much of a short space of time really.
I actually started first week of June I think it was so I'm at it almost 6 months at this stage.

I think once I done the 10k I started to believe I could go further plus it really helps that I love it!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on November 25, 2013, 11:00:33 PM
Out of action at the minute. My knee is giving me a bit of bother! training for the Paris Marathon in April so don't want to be out for too long, it will only be 3 months away once i get christmas over me. Just rowing and swimming at the minute to try keep up some sort of exercise.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 25, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 25, 2013, 11:00:33 PM
Out of action at the minute. My knee is giving me a bit of bother! training for the Paris Marathon in April so don't want to be out for too long, it will only be 3 months away once i get christmas over me. Just rowing and swimming at the minute to try keep up some sort of exercise.
I wouldn't start to panic yet. You can get loads done in 3 months. Worst thing to do is to rush it and not let it rest properly over the next few weeks because you'll break down when you start ramping up the miles. Have you had it looked at?

Suffering with patellar tendonitis myself so following my own advice from above. Haven't been injured in years, have a good idea what caused it.
I'm looking like a bit of a gobshite in the gym doing the rehab exercises at the moment but have to be done, due to start a 16 week program for Boston on December 30th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: under the bar on November 25, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
I got a Durolane injection in my knee in June.  Made a great job of it and back running without any swelling the next day!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
Thought this was good.

http://aeon.co/film/what-deep-thoughts-do-you-have-during-a-run/?utm_content=buffer84ad4&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.

I think if you pick a regular race (chipped race), a fairly big-ish one and raise money and we all enter it and whatever we raise we could send it to a good cause, plenty out there. A Board account could be set up and money transferred into it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.

I think if you pick a regular race (chipped race), a fairly big-ish one and raise money and we all enter it and whatever we raise we could send it to a good cause, plenty out there. A Board account could be set up and money transferred into it

Need a location that would suit most lads....Meath or Louth maybe, not a million miles away from the lads up top and then lads in Dublin either. Not ideal for Deel Rover though!
Need to pick a race, runireland.com is a good source for fixtures. Say February, March time to give lads a target to work towards.

Just on paddypower there, imtommygun is the early favourite going by the odds!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:32:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.

I think if you pick a regular race (chipped race), a fairly big-ish one and raise money and we all enter it and whatever we raise we could send it to a good cause, plenty out there. A Board account could be set up and money transferred into it

Jaysus, that makes shocking sense and easy to follow up with. Could use one of those donation websites that BC1 used to collect it online particularly those on here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
Need a location that would suit most lads....Meath or Louth maybe, not a million miles away from the lads up top and then lads in Dublin either. Not ideal for Deel Rover though!
Need to pick a race, runireland.com is a good source for fixtures. Say February, March time to give lads a target to work towards.

Just on paddypower there, imtommygun is the early favourite going by the odds!

You must be insider trader so and have lumped on instead of yourself! I smell a rat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Yes Bingo the very one I was thinking of

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.

I think if you pick a regular race (chipped race), a fairly big-ish one and raise money and we all enter it and whatever we raise we could send it to a good cause, plenty out there. A Board account could be set up and money transferred into it

Need a location that would suit most lads....Meath or Louth maybe, not a million miles away from the lads up top and then lads in Dublin either. Not ideal for Deel Rover though!
Need to pick a race, runireland.com is a good source for fixtures. Say February, March time to give lads a target to work towards.

Just on paddypower there, imtommygun is the early favourite going by the odds!

Over 10K he'd be the man, but he might not be able to take the pressure, there is running to beat your times and there is running to beat ones on here, different altogether
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
Ha, I am bothered with an achilles problem at the minute and there are some boys getting the bug pretty bad on here so I wouldn't put any money on me at the minute!!

A handicap race would be good actually and Ballinman you are a seasoned boyo yourself!

Great to see a lot of guys getting into the running here. It's an addictive sport and you'd be amazed what you can achieve when you get going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Sounds good Bingo. I would be up for that but when in April? The wife is due in April so my time might me limited!

I am going to do a 5 mile in Raheny in January and a 10k in Mount Juilet in Feburary so would want to be stepping up to do a half race soon after.Is it Kildare town it's on?

I'd also be up for a charity race anywhere. Loads of great charities so I don't mind which one,would have one or two myself I could nominate or whatever. 
I certainly won't be trying to beat any of you lads anyway,especially Miltown Row as he is obviously a speed demon ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Sounds good Bingo. I would be up for that but when in April? The wife is due in April so my time might me limited!

I am going to do a 5 mile in Raheny in January and a 10k in Mount Juilet in Feburary so would want to be stepping up to do a half race soon after.Is it Kildare town it's on?

I'd also be up for a charity race anywhere. Loads of great charities so I don't mind which one,would have one or two myself I could nominate or whatever. 
I certainly won't be trying to beat any of you lads anyway,especially Miltown Row and he is obviously a speed demon ;)

;D ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Sounds good Bingo. I would be up for that but when in April? The wife is due in April so my time might me limited!

I am going to do a 5 mile in Raheny in January and a 10k in Mount Juilet in Feburary so would want to be stepping up to do a half race soon after.Is it Kildare town it's on?

I'd also be up for a charity race anywhere. Loads of great charities so I don't mind which one,would have one or two myself I could nominate or whatever. 
I certainly won't be trying to beat any of you lads anyway,especially Miltown Row and he is obviously a speed demon ;)

;D ;D
Couldn't have a GAA related event without some needle in it... ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:53:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Sounds good Bingo. I would be up for that but when in April? The wife is due in April so my time might me limited!

I am going to do a 5 mile in Raheny in January and a 10k in Mount Juilet in Feburary so would want to be stepping up to do a half race soon after.Is it Kildare town it's on?

I'd also be up for a charity race anywhere. Loads of great charities so I don't mind which one,would have one or two myself I could nominate or whatever. 
I certainly won't be trying to beat any of you lads anyway,especially Miltown Row and he is obviously a speed demon ;)

;D ;D
Couldn't have a GAA related event without some needle in it... ;D

;D Yeah this thread was far too helpful and encouraging for 109 pages Ballinaman something had to give
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 06:55:17 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:53:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Sounds good Bingo. I would be up for that but when in April? The wife is due in April so my time might me limited!

I am going to do a 5 mile in Raheny in January and a 10k in Mount Juilet in Feburary so would want to be stepping up to do a half race soon after.Is it Kildare town it's on?

I'd also be up for a charity race anywhere. Loads of great charities so I don't mind which one,would have one or two myself I could nominate or whatever. 
I certainly won't be trying to beat any of you lads anyway,especially Miltown Row and he is obviously a speed demon ;)

;D ;D
Couldn't have a GAA related event without some needle in it... ;D

;D Yeah this thread was far too helpful and encouraging for 109 pages Ballinaman something had to give

We mightn't win much but us Laois fellas can always be depended on to start an aul row!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 26, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 26, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
Fair play Laoislad on the half distance, no small achievement. You'll have earned all the goodies over Xmas. I've one eye on the Kildare Half in April (Think the brother is going to do the full the same day), be a good one for you to target after the christmas.

I'll look at that video myself later, the stuff that goes through my mind on a long run would be mindblowing if I went through with half of it!!!

Big one this weekend - the Castleblayney 5km. Serious pressure to perform and alot of talk about who will be beating who, was even a few bets laid last weekend by all accounts, all good banter. Was determined to beat 20min for it this year but we did the route a week or so ago and finished in 19.41, went flat out mind as I hadn't done a hard run like that in a while. Hoping for that time or better on Sunday.

Stuck on 20 at the minute, was trying to beat that this year but have had hamstring trouble over the summer, nearly all gone and running along nicely now. Will move that target to next year.

Any more thoughts on the 10k fundraiser for the GAA Boarders?? Would get some interest and PB's

The 20 min barrier is a tough one to beat when you just outside it, the course can have a big bearing on it, you have to pick it carefully the first time  ;) Hamstring not good when going that hard either.

GAA 10K be  a good one alright. Who'll be the race director to sort it out though.

I think if you pick a regular race (chipped race), a fairly big-ish one and raise money and we all enter it and whatever we raise we could send it to a good cause, plenty out there. A Board account could be set up and money transferred into it

Need a location that would suit most lads....Meath or Louth maybe, not a million miles away from the lads up top and then lads in Dublin either. Not ideal for Deel Rover though!
Need to pick a race, runireland.com is a good source for fixtures. Say February, March time to give lads a target to work towards.

Just on paddypower there, imtommygun is the early favourite going by the odds!

Ah jesus Ballinaman keep away from meath anyway  ;D March sounds good . Are we going to Stay the night of the race to discuss where we went wrong .My money is on Ballinaman     
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 07:59:44 PM
Carlingford 10k or half marathon on 1st march as per runireland, it's a flat course as far as I know. Would be a right venue for post race discussion as well, might be out of way for some.

LL, it's early April I think. In newbridge I think with a finish at the curragh.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 26, 2013, 07:59:44 PM
Carlingford 10k or half marathon on 1st march as per runireland, it's a flat course as far as I know. Would be a right venue for post race discussion as well, might be out of way for some.

LL, it's early April I think. In newbridge I think with a finish at the curragh.

Good for me
Title: Gaaboard 10k Race
Post by: No1 on November 26, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Surely it should be Jimmy's 10k Race in Downpatrick on the Sunday of St Patrick's weekend? Superb race and everyone off on the Monday so a heap of pints afterwards would surely be called for. (Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's right and handy for me!)
Title: Re: Gaaboard 10k Race
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 10:32:20 PM
Quote from: No1 on November 26, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Surely it should be Jimmy's 10k Race in Downpatrick on the Sunday of St Patrick's weekend? Superb race and everyone off on the Monday so a heap of pints afterwards would surely be called for. (Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's right and handy for me!)

Friend does this race every year but I'm looking to do the Belfast to Dublin cycle for MND with the lads from St Paul's, Anto Finnegan is suffering from this and it was something I was looking to do.

Watch film I am breathing which followed a sufferer of MND, horrible illness (as are all terminal illness) which brought me to tears last night. As said so many worthwhile causes out there, and rather have a cause that's going straight to the root of the problem than what normally happens.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 10:39:13 PM
Only a few years ago i would have ran a bit with anto on lunchtime runs in belfast. Very hard to digest someone his age, fitness etc being struck down like this. It just shows you. Heartbreaking for him and his family and just shows you how fragile life is really :(

Would be a worthwhile cause.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 27, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
I think the idea of a GAABoard race, raising money for charity is a superb idea. I'd definitely try to make it at the very least.

Back on the capall after an indifferent couple of months where I didn't get out running much. I'm getting out for a couple of miles at lunchtime a couple of days a week and then trying to do a longer run at the weekend. Looking to try to do my first 10k but struggling to find one close to Sligo or in Dublin the weekends I'll be there. Would like to get a 10k done before the end of the year but might have to settle for Jan/Feb.

This thread has been a godsend for me. Provides loads of useful information as well as the bit of motivation. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2013, 10:10:45 AM
I'd imagine we'd have a good few to take part in any run, obviously location would be a factor but i'm sure we would all travel a bit for a one-off.

Seanie, fair play on the running and the comments. At times it can be hard to keep at it, one reason or another but i find that once you have no runs booked or committed to, you find yourself missing out on a few runs. Nothing like it to keep motivation high. That or having a small group to run with helps no end in keeping the mileage up.

Will be some motivation if this 10km gets off the ground!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 27, 2013, 10:31:25 AM
Don't see why we couldn't get it off the ground.
The Carlingford one sounds like a good shout on 1st March, never been up that way, heard it's a lovely spot. I'd take a car load up from Dublin if lads wanted to drive up from the West.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 27, 2013, 10:31:25 AM
Don't see why we couldn't get it off the ground.
The Carlingford one sounds like a good shout on 1st March, never been up that way, heard it's a lovely spot. I'd take a car load up from Dublin if lads wanted to drive up from the West.

http://www.runireland.com/active/all-events  Sat the 1st of March, seems grand, Carlingford is a great spot plenty wee pubs about afterwards for a bitta craic. There is also a half marathon for Laoislad to get his teeth into ;) 25 euro for entry.

The race (1/2 Marathon) begins in the picturesque village of Carlingford and take in the beautiful surrounds of the Cooley peninsula, Ballagan Point, Mourne Mountains & Carlingford Lough. The race finishes in the village. There will be stewards along the route, water provided at various points. The 10K route is similar to 1/2Marathon except it cuts off to make the route shorter but the finish route is the same. Water will be provided along the 10K Route. All Finisher will receive a Medal. The Hotel offers the use of the Leisure Facilities, Tea, Coffee & sandwiches for a nominal amount. The route would not be classed asl hilly. There are a few small hills
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 27, 2013, 10:45:16 AM
Would a 5k in advance of Christmas be an option?
The parkruns are handy and we could all throw €10/€20 towards a nominated charity


Injuries are beginning to catch up with me, IT band has been at me for a couple of weeks now but is ok with a few days rest and stretch and foam rolling
Last nites session I got an awful pain in my foot, just at the back of the arch, finished the session and was running home but had to stop and get a taxi, not good. Will stick to the bike for a week and see how I get on, hopefully it will clear up itself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 27, 2013, 06:17:09 PM
What a brilliant evening for a run that is! Lovely and warm - short sleeves & legs. Counted 9 Christmas trees and one Happy Hanukkah! There's always one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 27, 2013, 06:36:42 PM
Quote from: CD on November 27, 2013, 06:17:09 PM
What a brilliant evening for a run that is! Lovely and warm - short sleeves & legs. Counted 9 Christmas trees and one Happy Hanukkah! There's always one!

There's always 9 you mean....
Christmas trees in November  ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 27, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 27, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
I think the idea of a GAABoard race, raising money for charity is a superb idea. I'd definitely try to make it at the very least.

Back on the capall after an indifferent couple of months where I didn't get out running much. I'm getting out for a couple of miles at lunchtime a couple of days a week and then trying to do a longer run at the weekend. Looking to try to do my first 10k but struggling to find one close to Sligo or in Dublin the weekends I'll be there. Would like to get a 10k done before the end of the year but might have to settle for Jan/Feb.

This thread has been a godsend for me. Provides loads of useful information as well as the bit of motivation. Great stuff.

Nice flat 10k in Ballina, Dec.8th. 2 miles of it through woods (level paved surface though) along the river. Very good times weather permitting. Proceeds for Mayo/Ros hospice, as well as a donation to Belleek woods committee who are doing a great job including the introduction of red squirrels recently.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 27, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 27, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
I think the idea of a GAABoard race, raising money for charity is a superb idea. I'd definitely try to make it at the very least.

Back on the capall after an indifferent couple of months where I didn't get out running much. I'm getting out for a couple of miles at lunchtime a couple of days a week and then trying to do a longer run at the weekend. Looking to try to do my first 10k but struggling to find one close to Sligo or in Dublin the weekends I'll be there. Would like to get a 10k done before the end of the year but might have to settle for Jan/Feb.

This thread has been a godsend for me. Provides loads of useful information as well as the bit of motivation. Great stuff.

Nice flat 10k in Ballina, Dec.8th. 2 miles of it through woods (level paved surface though) along the river. Very good times weather permitting. Proceeds for Mayo/Ros hospice, as well as a donation to Belleek woods committee who are doing a great job including the introduction of red squirrels recently.

Starts to get warmer in March ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Under Lights on November 28, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Does anyone own a treadmill? I am looking to get one for a family member as a Christmas present. Budget is around £500. I was looking at Reebok zr9 treadmill.
Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: southdown on November 28, 2013, 12:05:46 PM
My brother has a reebok one, be careful as to how wide they are - his is extremely narrow and I am never confident using it in fear of falling off the side!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 28, 2013, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 27, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 27, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
I think the idea of a GAABoard race, raising money for charity is a superb idea. I'd definitely try to make it at the very least.

Back on the capall after an indifferent couple of months where I didn't get out running much. I'm getting out for a couple of miles at lunchtime a couple of days a week and then trying to do a longer run at the weekend. Looking to try to do my first 10k but struggling to find one close to Sligo or in Dublin the weekends I'll be there. Would like to get a 10k done before the end of the year but might have to settle for Jan/Feb.

This thread has been a godsend for me. Provides loads of useful information as well as the bit of motivation. Great stuff.

Nice flat 10k in Ballina, Dec.8th. 2 miles of it through woods (level paved surface though) along the river. Very good times weather permitting. Proceeds for Mayo/Ros hospice, as well as a donation to Belleek woods committee who are doing a great job including the introduction of red squirrels recently.

Moysider - thanks for that. I had seen that advertised but I'm in Dublin that weekend and won't make it back west in time. Raging cos it sounds like it would be a lovely one to do.
Title: Seeley Cup
Post by: No1 on November 29, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Anyone doing the Seeley 10k tomorrow?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 30, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
What a lovely morning for a run. Went of at 8am down the canal towards Inchicore and back to Lucan.
Apart from a Swan trying to attack me somewhere around Bluebell it was a very enjoyable run.
The weather was great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 30, 2013, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 30, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
What a lovely morning for a run. Went of at 8am down the canal towards Inchicore and back to Lucan.
Apart from a Swan trying to attack me somewhere around Bluebell it was a very enjoyable run.
The weather was great.

They can break your arm you know
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
18.51, local pride restored!

Few pints methinks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 01, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
18.51, local pride restored!

Few pints methinks.

Bastard  :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 01, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
18.51, local pride restored!

Few pints methinks.

That's some going!! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2013, 11:22:07 PM
Great running bingo. Watched seeley yesterday-great win for city of derry's connor bradley.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 02, 2013, 11:49:33 AM
Pints me bollix, I know about it today  >:( Good night though.

Imtommygun - Paddy Hamilton came first in our 5km yesterday, he was second in the Seeley Cup on Saturday, won the 5km in 15.19, savage running after doing 31min for the 10km on Saturday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2013, 11:07:11 AM
Slow motion capture of elite marathon runners of  2011 Boston marathon. Final 800m.

Look at the amount of hip extension - ie leg going backwards. Strong glutes and loose hip flexors. Real eye opener on how to improve technique and the importance of stretching.

GEOFFREY MUTAI (KEN) & MOSES MOSOP (KEN) 1ST, 2nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7E6Qi5ifg


CAROLINE KILEL (KEN), SHARON CHEROP (KEN) & DESIREE DAVILA (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kky1ufm0uyQ
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on December 06, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Ballinaman, cheers for those tips on the plantar facilitis, seems to be doing the job, appreciate it. I also added in tilting my foot against a post and stretching my calf
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on December 06, 2013, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 06, 2013, 11:07:11 AM
Slow motion capture of elite marathon runners of  2011 Boston marathon. Final 800m.

Look at the amount of hip extension - ie leg going backwards. Strong glutes and loose hip flexors. Real eye opener on how to improve technique and the importance of stretching.

GEOFFREY MUTAI (KEN) & MOSES MOSOP (KEN) 1ST, 2nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7E6Qi5ifg


CAROLINE KILEL (KEN), SHARON CHEROP (KEN) & DESIREE DAVILA (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kky1ufm0uyQ

Ah yeah but how many pints of Guinness have they drank?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 06, 2013, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 06, 2013, 11:07:11 AM
Slow motion capture of elite marathon runners of  2011 Boston marathon. Final 800m.

Look at the amount of hip extension - ie leg going backwards. Strong glutes and loose hip flexors. Real eye opener on how to improve technique and the importance of stretching.

GEOFFREY MUTAI (KEN) & MOSES MOSOP (KEN) 1ST, 2nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7E6Qi5ifg


CAROLINE KILEL (KEN), SHARON CHEROP (KEN) & DESIREE DAVILA (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kky1ufm0uyQ

Ah yeah but how many pints of Guinness have they drank?
;D Aye and imagine Francie Bellew bursting them with a shoulder...think they would probably explode.

No bother Mayo4Sam....this one?
(http://runningintherealworld.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/plantar-fasciitis.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on December 06, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
thats it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2013, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on December 06, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
thats it
That's a good one, touch the wall with top of your head and bring your chin to your chest as a progression, stretches the neural tissue as well as the muscle.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 07, 2013, 09:07:41 AM
Lads any advice re sore knees?
Lately after runs my knees have been paining me for a good few days after. This morning during my run they were a bit sore. It's not a mad sore pain more of a dull uncomfortable pain if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on December 07, 2013, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 07, 2013, 09:07:41 AM
Lads any advice re sore knees?
Lately after runs my knees have been paining me for a good few days after. This morning during my run they were a bit sore. It's not a mad sore pain more of a dull uncomfortable pain if that makes sense.

Currently out of action until the new year with tendonitis. Complete bollox. All my training and future training before Paris marathon at start of April has been ruined ffs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhailov on December 09, 2013, 12:04:53 PM
Lads,
Been running on / off for few years now and back at it again at 25/30km per week. Have decent runners from up&running Belfast but have recently started to get blisters in arch area. Not really sore ones but annoying all the same....

Is it the runners (asics gel type)?
Is it me that is done...?

Got anti-blister socks but still getting blisters - Any advice appreciated....?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 09, 2013, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 09, 2013, 12:04:53 PM
Lads,
Been running on / off for few years now and back at it again at 25/30km per week. Have decent runners from up&running Belfast but have recently started to get blisters in arch area. Not really sore ones but annoying all the same....

Is it the runners (asics gel type)?
Is it me that is done...?

Got anti-blister socks but still getting blisters - Any advice appreciated....?

Are the runners the right fit? I find with one of my runners I get occassional blisters where the runner isn't as good a fit and there is some friction in the area causing the runner. I normally have to retighten the laces etc after a few runs and it does the trick, fit betters then but if runners not tightened, I'll get the blister.

Other than that maybe rub a bit of vasoline in the area.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhailov on December 09, 2013, 12:13:45 PM
Cheers Bingo - will try your advice
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on December 09, 2013, 01:14:26 PM
Best runners for an overpronator like myself? I was thinking of getting the asics kayanos
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhailov on December 11, 2013, 12:26:39 PM
Bingo,

tried your advice on the tighter runners and Vaseline rub on arches but still getting the blisters. Done 10K last night and for last 2 it was sore enough and couldn't have done much more if had to.

Could the asics gel be done - have ran about 1000k in them........

Could there be any other cause ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 11, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 09, 2013, 01:14:26 PM
Best runners for an overpronator like myself? I was thinking of getting the asics kayanos

The kayanos would be the top range and would cover you. They are expensive mind.

The Asics 2000's would also do the same job, a bit cheaper. Both of these are ideally suited to long runs. You could use the Asics 1000's for shorter runs, up to half marathon.

I'd be an overpronator and I'd rotate the 1000's and 2000's between long and short runs. On second pair of 2000's and have had no problems at all. Had on last pair of New Balance I wore.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 11, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 11, 2013, 12:26:39 PM
Bingo,

tried your advice on the tighter runners and Vaseline rub on arches but still getting the blisters. Done 10K last night and for last 2 it was sore enough and couldn't have done much more if had to.

Could the asics gel be done - have ran about 1000k in them........

Could there be any other cause ?

Maybe the runners just not the right fit in that part of the feet? Or try a different brand of socks? Good bit of mileage on them, are they particularly worn in that part of the sole? Maybe thats it if they didn't previously give you blisters when you first wore them.

Funny you should post, did the first night with the club of the night run, 10.5km run on trails and cross country round the local park and old golf course. A great run, tough but very enjoyable. Was 13 of us with our headlamps.

Anyways, was running late and threw the runners on quickly, they where a bit damp from weekend and I didn't even retie laces from last run. Knew half way round the blisters had landed, in a place I never got them! Could have been the terrain and the runners not been correctly tied. Will make sure its right the next time!

Was actually so mild and warm last night, unreal for December. Jackets and tops where discharged early on!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 11, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Lads - do you really think the shoes are THAT important? I don't know if you remember, but there was a really good documentary on BBC before the 2012 Olympics which dispelled the myth of the sports shoe among other things. Basically it said a £30 shoe was every bit as effective as a £300 shoe provided the user found it comfortable. They said there was no scientific link to injury as well. I was trying to find it there but couldn't track it down.

Obviously, if I was getting a blister, I'd try a different shoe. I have a narrow foot and I find Saucony and Brooks trainers most comfortable. Currently using the Brooks Ravenna which I find very comfy and picked up for £39.99 on mandmdirect last year. Trying to track them down again!

I'd also suggest changing shoes every 6 months at 20 miles a week. Buy new trainers a good month before you need them and wear them around the house and out walking to break them in before running in them. This has served me well although I did once buy an asics shoe that I never wore running as it never felt comfortable - too wide for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 21, 2013, 11:03:51 AM
Not a good idea to go running the morning after a feed of beer. Just struggled through 5k and left last night's garlic and cheese chips from Supermacs somewhere around the 4k mark :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on December 21, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 21, 2013, 11:03:51 AM
Not a good idea to go running the morning after a feed of beer. Just struggled through 5k and left last night's garlic and cheese chips from Supermacs somewhere around the 4k mark :-[

The body telling you you didn't need them!!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 29, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
Done the Christmas Cracker in castlewellan yesterday, seriously good race. Has everything in it - roads, fields, trails, country lanes for 13.5km and wasn't a flat part on it! It's also a pairs race, so you have to finish with your partner, 373 pairs took part.

Great part of the world to run in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 29, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
Any good running books or videos worth reading or watching?
Watched a thing on YouTube last night called The Spirit of the Marathon which was really very good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 29, 2013, 12:13:06 PM
I did the Christmas morning Parkrun in the Waterworks Belfast, and met one very old ex Armagh and Killeavy player. No, not Stevie, much much older.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 29, 2013, 12:17:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 29, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
Any good running books or videos worth reading or watching?
Watched a thing on YouTube last night called The Spirit of the Marathon which was really very good.

Two decent books:
Running with the Kenyans
Born to Run (apparently this looks like it going to be made into a film)

Also, Ronnie O'Sullivans recent book is called running and he talks about his current obsession with running. Haven't read it myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2014, 01:51:26 PM
Knocked out 4 miles there in that shitty weather and it was the best 30 minutes I've run in a while, the time wasn't great but I'm putting that down to the 15 beers, 3 glasses of fizz and a bottle of red.

Found a wee loop run from the house which is part road part wood so I'll be looking to quicken that time, far bitta hills in it to which is great
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 01, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2014, 01:51:26 PM
Knocked out 4 miles there in that shitty weather and it was the best 30 minutes I've run in a while, the time wasn't great but I'm putting that down to the 15 beers, 3 glasses of fizz and a bottle of red.

Found a wee loop run from the house which is part road part wood so I'll be looking to quicken that time, far bitta hills in it to which is great

Did a great wee loop myself there this morning, 7k or so. I was home just before that rain kicked in - it was lovely earlier on! Fair play to you - there isn't a chance I'd have gone anywhere in that weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 02, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
So lads whats the targets for 2014? Is it distance or PB's.

2013 was great for me, done two marathons and PB's across a range of distances. For 2014. I might do another marathon, defo not in spring though. One goal is to beat the half marathon PB and hope to focus on that this spring. Next is to beat 40min for 10km. One should follow the other.

Going to try and do some proper hill/mountain running as well. A few of the lads do the Hill and Dale series in the Mournes from April onwards, so will do a few of those. Really enjoyed the Castlewellan Christmas cracker which was cross country and on trails in large parts. Its more varied and wreckless!!

Current PB's:
5km 18.51 (did 19.21 in 2013 as well)
10km 41.35 (in 2013 on tough forest park run)
Half 1.36 (in 2012, one and only half raced)
Full 3.21.41 (in 2013).

Heres to having a good crack at them in 2014.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on January 02, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 02, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
So lads whats the targets for 2014? Is it distance or PB's.

2013 was great for me, done two marathons and PB's across a range of distances. For 2014. I might do another marathon, defo not in spring though. One goal is to beat the half marathon PB and hope to focus on that this spring. Next is to beat 40min for 10km. One should follow the other.

Going to try and do some proper hill/mountain running as well. A few of the lads do the Hill and Dale series in the Mournes from April onwards, so will do a few of those. Really enjoyed the Castlewellan Christmas cracker which was cross country and on trails in large parts. Its more varied and wreckless!!

Current PB's:
5km 18.51 (did 19.21 in 2013 as well)
10km 41.35 (in 2013 on tough forest park run)
Half 1.36 (in 2012, one and only half raced)
Full 3.21.41 (in 2013).

Heres to having a good crack at them in 2014.

Those are mighty impressive times. I wish you well and fun in beating them but to beat them is going to require a lot of strength and pain.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 02, 2014, 06:56:22 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 02, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
So lads whats the targets for 2014? Is it distance or PB's.

2013 was great for me, done two marathons and PB's across a range of distances. For 2014. I might do another marathon, defo not in spring though. One goal is to beat the half marathon PB and hope to focus on that this spring. Next is to beat 40min for 10km. One should follow the other.

Going to try and do some proper hill/mountain running as well. A few of the lads do the Hill and Dale series in the Mournes from April onwards, so will do a few of those. Really enjoyed the Castlewellan Christmas cracker which was cross country and on trails in large parts. Its more varied and wreckless!!

Current PB's:
5km 18.51 (did 19.21 in 2013 as well)
10km 41.35 (in 2013 on tough forest park run)
Half 1.36 (in 2012, one and only half raced)
Full 3.21.41 (in 2013).

Heres to having a good crack at them in 2014.

I'm planning on doing my first marathon in Belfast in May. Santa brought me a lot of new gear for Christmas so I've been out on the roads a few times already. I'd been on the treadmill in the gym up until early December and was managing some good distances - did 11 miles. I did 4 miles on the roads this morning at an average pace of 7:41 per mile so can hopefully keep the distances moving up whilst staying at that pace or going a bit faster. I'd love to do the marathon inside the 3.5 hours mark.

There's a 10 mile run in bundoran that I might pencil in on 1 March and I live beside a park run venue so going to make that a regular on Saturday mornings - I'd love to get inside 20 mins for the 5k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 03, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
Has anyone used a Bryton Cardio 35 GPS watch? Are they any good?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on January 03, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Ran 1k yesterday for the first time in over a year and it felt ok, have a bad achilles injury that i had surgery on over two years ago. Achilles a bit stiff today but not bad...I would love to be able to run a proper distance like you guys but hopefully i've got over the worst of this dam thing...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 03, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on January 02, 2014, 06:56:22 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 02, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
So lads whats the targets for 2014? Is it distance or PB's.

2013 was great for me, done two marathons and PB's across a range of distances. For 2014. I might do another marathon, defo not in spring though. One goal is to beat the half marathon PB and hope to focus on that this spring. Next is to beat 40min for 10km. One should follow the other.

Going to try and do some proper hill/mountain running as well. A few of the lads do the Hill and Dale series in the Mournes from April onwards, so will do a few of those. Really enjoyed the Castlewellan Christmas cracker which was cross country and on trails in large parts. Its more varied and wreckless!!

Current PB's:
5km 18.51 (did 19.21 in 2013 as well)
10km 41.35 (in 2013 on tough forest park run)
Half 1.36 (in 2012, one and only half raced)
Full 3.21.41 (in 2013).

Heres to having a good crack at them in 2014.

I'm planning on doing my first marathon in Belfast in May. Santa brought me a lot of new gear for Christmas so I've been out on the roads a few times already. I'd been on the treadmill in the gym up until early December and was managing some good distances - did 11 miles. I did 4 miles on the roads this morning at an average pace of 7:41 per mile so can hopefully keep the distances moving up whilst staying at that pace or going a bit faster. I'd love to do the marathon inside the 3.5 hours mark.

There's a 10 mile run in bundoran that I might pencil in on 1 March and I live beside a park run venue so going to make that a regular on Saturday mornings - I'd love to get inside 20 mins for the 5k

I ran this last year - was the single most enjoyable run I did last year - made a weekend of it with the brothers. I'd recommend it to anyone. Really well organised and good people. I like the 10 mile distance as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 03, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Some times there Bingo! Probably not as fast as speed racer Miltown Row though  :D

My no1 goal is to do Marathon in October. Not setting myself a time limit my goal is just to finish it.

I haven't ran a 5k on it's own in a while and my PB is 25.14,pretty sure I can knock a few minutes off that this year.
PB for 10k is 53.15 and I want to get under 50 mins this year.
PB for half is 2hrs3min so I think I should get under 2hrs easily enough if I enter a half race.
I've only been running for 6 months so it will be interesting to see how my times are this time next year

Done feck all running in December so feeling a bit unfit at the moment.Was looking back on my Nike+ app there and I ran nearly 120km in November and only 23km in December! So have to really get back into it now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 03, 2014, 09:02:10 PM
Did the Galway new years 5k resolution on new years day, did it in 21.05, nearly died at the end. A month of doing nothing has really caught up, Dublin in under 3 and a half hours is this years goal, doing hell and back on Jan 26, the Connemara in April, plus a few halves along the line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 03, 2014, 08:19:31 PM
Some times there Bingo! Probably not as fast as speed racer Miltown Row though  :D

My no1 goal is to do Marathon in October. Not setting myself a time limit my goal is just to finish it.

I haven't ran a 5k on it's own in a while and my PB is 25.14,pretty sure I can knock a few minutes off that this year.
PB for 10k is 53.15 and I want to get under 50 mins this year.
PB for half is 2hrs3min so I think I should get under 2hrs easily enough if I enter a half race.
I've only been running for 6 months so it will be interesting to see how my times are this time next year

Done feck all running in December so feeling a bit unfit at the moment.Was looking back on my Nike+ app there and I ran nearly 120km in November and only 23km in December! So have to really get back into it now.

I'll never get it below 19, length of legs is a major fault lol but certainly anything under 20 is a welcome bonus. Your distance running is going well, you'll defo get under 50 for 10K. 44 mins for 10K is my best. Half marathon would be my limit though. Ran 14 miles a couple of times but its hard going
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
10k and half pbs hopefully. Been wrecked with an achilles injury for a while now but hopefully on the way back.

Sub 35 10k and sub 80 half the goals. 30 odd seconds to go on the 10k and half new to me.

Broke 17 in a 5k last year and 28 on a 5 mile. Hope to bring those down but no specific targets.

Being injury free main target!

Might do dublin half and one or two others. Maybe great ireland 10k. Those and then the local scene.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 03, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
10k and half pbs hopefully. Been wrecked with an achilles injury for a while now but hopefully on the way back.

Sub 35 10k and sub 80 half the goals. 30 odd seconds to go on the 10k and half new to me.

Broke 17 in a 5k last year and 28 on a 5 mile. Hope to bring those down but no specific targets.

Being injury free main target!

Might do dublin half and one or two others. Maybe great ireland 10k. Those and then the local scene.

Is the Dublin half on the same day as the full marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
No-it's about a month before it. Late september/early october.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
Lads I've the Garmin 110, do you need a specific Garmin heart rate monitor or do they all fit all types? Fair difference in price on Amazon and some reviews says it  worked on all types
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2014, 12:27:30 PM
I think you need the garmin specific one...

They're dear enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2014, 01:53:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 04, 2014, 12:27:30 PM
I think you need the garmin specific one...

They're dear enough.

Cheaper to buy the watch type heart monitor, though not Garmin
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on January 04, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
I started back running reasonably seriously last month after a 2 year break. a combination of change in job/ routine and a problem with my Achilles when road running meant I had to quit. 1st time out I could not believe how much my fitness has went down in the interim as I would have classed myself as naturally fit and play a lot of 5 and 7 side. I'm about a minute per mile slower over a 10k :'(. hope to build it back up but didn't realise how far I had to go! just shows nothing compares to proper training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2014, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 04, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
I started back running reasonably seriously last month after a 2 year break. a combination of change in job/ routine and a problem with my Achilles when road running meant I had to quit. 1st time out I could not believe how much my fitness has went down in the interim as I would have classed myself as naturally fit and play a lot of 5 and 7 side. I'm about a minute per mile slower over a 10k :'(. hope to build it back up but didn't realise how far I had to go! just shows nothing compares to proper training.

You're only fit for what you train at and the standard it's at, playing 5 a sides every week and you'll feel fit, first touch is great and the ability to do the short sprints gives the impression you're fit, doing 10 K on the back of not doing it in two years is a fair wake up call.

I've played many a reserve game last year and while currently training hard at cycling running and swimming nothing is close to match fitness unless you are on the field applying the skills, taking the tackles and running up and down the pitch.

I'd say after another month or so you'll get back to that fitness level again.......... for running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
Did the 4 miler again today, thon was some wind blowing today, minute off from last run but great to get out all the same, actually enjoying the run better in wet -ish conditions.

Anyone using the Strava website, the board has some followers on it, mainly cyclists though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
Did the 4 miler again today, thon was some wind blowing today, minute off from last run but great to get out all the same, actually enjoying the run better in wet -ish conditions.

Anyone using the Strava website, the board has some followers on it, mainly cyclists though

I've sort of stopped using it as I just use the garmin all the time now but strava is great craic when you're competing with mates. Great app, especially since it is free!!

I've only got back up to 2 mile running after hurting my knee at the start of dec!! It's still not right yet!! I can feel that pain lingering around the 1.5 mile mark. Just going to build the miles slowly. Paris marathon in April is fucked now. I will do it but it might be a case of having to walk most of it so I don't hurt my knee anymore!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 05, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
And what about your golf?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 05, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
Did the 4 miler again today, thon was some wind blowing today, minute off from last run but great to get out all the same, actually enjoying the run better in wet -ish conditions.

Anyone using the Strava website, the board has some followers on it, mainly cyclists though

I've sort of stopped using it as I just use the garmin all the time now but strava is great craic when you're competing with mates. Great app, especially since it is free!!

I've only got back up to 2 mile running after hurting my knee at the start of dec!! It's still not right yet!! I can feel that pain lingering around the 1.5 mile mark. Just going to build the miles slowly. Paris marathon in April is fucked now. I will do it but it might be a case of having to walk most of it so I don't hurt my knee anymore!

Aye just build it up and if you get to 10/15 miles at a slow enough pace you'll get round Paris without doing serious long term damage. Would be crawling the walls if I had a injury that stopped me from running and whatever else I'm at.

Aye I've a mate who started using it but he's a lazy lump ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 05, 2014, 07:04:56 PM
I use it but it's only ever the cycling segments I look at. Not enough runners on it to make it interesting
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2014, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 05, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
And what about your golf?

Haven't played in about 6 weeks. Too cold for me this time of the year!! I'll dust them off for the driving range and a lesson or 2 next month. I'll be back to walking around the golf course in a rage in a couple of months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2014, 01:19:08 PM
Bought the heart monitor and tried it out today, averaged out at 160 bpm over 3 miles, grand job and it got the signal easy enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Booked Derry with the missus ffs yesterday, cracking deal in the City of Derry Hotel, £89 for both of us Breakfast and dinner !! Sorry
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 14, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Depending on what shape I'm in I could be up for this
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 14, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Could hardly be further away for me but not ruling it out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 14, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 14, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Could hardly be further away for me but not ruling it out.

I'm back in training can't wait for the event the running is coming along grand as well  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 14, 2014, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 14, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 14, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Could hardly be further away for me but not ruling it out.

I'm back in training can't wait for the event the running is coming along grand as well  ;D

I've got the Cara Bundoran 10mile on the same day - knee permitting!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 14, 2014, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: CD on January 14, 2014, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 14, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 14, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

Could hardly be further away for me but not ruling it out.

I'm back in training can't wait for the event the running is coming along grand as well  ;D

I've got the Cara Bundoran 10mile on the same day - knee permitting!!

That d suit me better and never ran it before. Only hour and a bit down the road. Looks a flat course too. Don t like the long monotonous stretches though :(  Don t like to be able to see too far ahead when I'm calving during a race  :'(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 10:08:46 PM
Lads where can I get a link to 10k races for the coming months?

Cheers in advance
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2014, 10:14:05 PM
http://www.niathletics.org/ (http://www.niathletics.org/)

Won't make march.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on January 14, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
www.athleticsni.org gives a good list of races coming up. It will probably be updated over the next month or 2 with the spring/summer events.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 14, 2014, 10:18:17 PM

A lot of events on runireland inc. 10Ks etc.

http://www.runireland.com/active/all-events
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 10:21:12 PM
Cheers, seen one in Markethill this Sat, too soon but will track a few down. Trying to get mates involved (ex players from club) but they are very reluctant. Not too many ex Gaa players get into running I've noticed
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
A few do. Greg blaney runs. One of the deegans was very good too but disappeared. Your ex doctor does too.

Gaa does bad things to hamstrings which doesn't agree with running at times!

First big one up here is downpatrick - be a big crowd at it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
A few do. Greg blaney runs. One of the deegans was very good too but disappeared. Your ex doctor does too.

Gaa does bad things to hamstrings which doesn't agree with running at times!

First big one up here is downpatrick - be a big crowd at it.

Aye the doc gets out to a right few 5k runs, passed me at the death one race I did couple years ago, I'd wee problem with hamstrings too but (touch wood) keep stretching them regulary seems to do the trick, I hope.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 14, 2014, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 10:21:12 PM
Cheers, seen one in Markethill this Sat, too soon but will track a few down. Trying to get mates involved (ex players from club) but they are very reluctant. Not too many ex Gaa players get into running I've noticed

That s true and I think it is a bit of a problem. It s a worry how many do nothing after hanging up their boots and quickly go into weight. However this may change with the rising popularity of running and triathlon.

We all love the football but it is not the be all and end all. Some footballers stay on too long and end up with chronic injuries which makes it very difficult to do much sport in retirement. Others have a hate for running and associate it with punishing runs in training.  I got into running a bit late to make a living out of it ;D but it is one of the best things I ve ever done for myself. Bonus. Have some great pals and training buddies now I never knew before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
A few do. Greg blaney runs. One of the deegans was very good too but disappeared. Your ex doctor does too.

Gaa does bad things to hamstrings which doesn't agree with running at times!

First big one up here is downpatrick - be a big crowd at it.

Jimmy's ten?  Might be interested in that, day before Paddy's day, won't feel guilty too much on the lash the next day :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
Yep. It's a good one. A bit hilly in the first half but decent enough course and big numbers out which helps.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 15, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

I am hoping to take part. Aiming to do my first 10k soon and this could be it. Had forgotten about the date and was thinking of doing the CARA Bundoran one which would obviously suit me better. What time is the Carlingford one at? Just need to think about logistics, family etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 15, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 15, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Are we still on for the "1st Annual Celebrity GAABoarder Pro-Am Invitational " 10Km/ Half Marathon in Carlingford on March 1st?

I am hoping to take part. Aiming to do my first 10k soon and this could be it. Had forgotten about the date and was thinking of doing the CARA Bundoran one which would obviously suit me better. What time is the Carlingford one at? Just need to think about logistics, family etc.
10.30am. It's 25 euro online for the next week or two and then goes up by 5 I think. Can enter on runireland.com

Hope to do the 1/2. Same price for 1/2 and 10k. I'll be driving from Dublin if anyone wants a lift.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 15, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
Ballinaman I might hook up with you, plan on cycling home
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 15, 2014, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 15, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
Ballinaman I might hook up with you, plan on cycling home
Sound, get onto me closer to race and we'll sort it out. (ye cyclists are loonies by the way, Cycling for Louth? jaysus!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 07:20:37 PM
Just back from run with the wife!! Thats a few we've done, it's actually harder to run at her pace, but I said nowt and ran with her lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on January 15, 2014, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
A few do. Greg blaney runs. One of the deegans was very good too but disappeared. Your ex doctor does too.

Gaa does bad things to hamstrings which doesn't agree with running at times!

First big one up here is downpatrick - be a big crowd at it.

Jimmy's ten?  Might be interested in that, day before Paddy's day, won't feel guilty too much on the lash the next day :P

Aye a brilliant race it is too and the perfect preparation would be to run our club's "Ben Dearg Coast 10k" on Sunday 23rd February at 1pm. Nice flat course with some of the best scenery on the island!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orangemac on January 15, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Have just started running after a lifetime of inactivity. Have ran a few 5kms and just getting into it but have started getting pain on the side of one knee. looked it up and seems to be ITBS, anyone heard of it or ways to get rid of it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 16, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
I had a similiar problem, Ballinaman will probably give you better advice but basically foam rolling your arse and an exercise where you sit on the ground, one leg out in front, cross the other over it, grab by the knee and pull it around you, moving your head in the opposite direction
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 15, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Have just started running after a lifetime of inactivity. Have ran a few 5kms and just getting into it but have started getting pain on the side of one knee. looked it up and seems to be ITBS, anyone heard of it or ways to get rid of it?
The old ITBS!
Right, here are a few general pieces of advice. Would prefer to have a look at your hip mobility and your feet in an ideal world but try these few things, (if no improvement in 10 days, go see a good local Physiotherapist)

Good shoes are vital.
Hip mobility stretching - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbu5RZhPbM 20 second holds and 10 rocks of pelvis each side x 2 per day

Quadricep/TFL stretch - 30 seconds each position https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsM64G546-0
x 2 per day

Foam rolling your glutes will help too, 2-3 mins a day is plenty.

Have been reading recent research saying that foam rolling the ITB itself actually doesn't do that much other than compress it, rather than stretch it! New stuff coming out all the time and will keep an eye on that line of thought.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D

I know thought I'd wouldn't be out in them but I'm loving them lol!!! Colder up north :P

My kids are looking at me like I'm gay. I'll not be wearing them for proper races though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D

I know thought I'd wouldn't be out in them but I'm loving them lol!!! Colder up north :P

My kids are looking at me like I'm gay. I'll not be wearing them for proper races though
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/stupid_ac995b_2289070.gif)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2014, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D

I know thought I'd wouldn't be out in them but I'm loving them lol!!! Colder up north :P

My kids are looking at me like I'm gay. I'll not be wearing them for proper races though
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/stupid_ac995b_2289070.gif)

Very good  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 16, 2014, 02:33:42 PM
What about the running socks? I picked up a pair a while back and never wore them. I think someone here said they were good if you were having trouble with the calf muscles?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orangemac on January 16, 2014, 09:13:53 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 15, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Have just started running after a lifetime of inactivity. Have ran a few 5kms and just getting into it but have started getting pain on the side of one knee. looked it up and seems to be ITBS, anyone heard of it or ways to get rid of it?
The old ITBS!
Right, here are a few general pieces of advice. Would prefer to have a look at your hip mobility and your feet in an ideal world but try these few things, (if no improvement in 10 days, go see a good local Physiotherapist)

Good shoes are vital.
Hip mobility stretching - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbu5RZhPbM 20 second holds and 10 rocks of pelvis each side x 2 per day

Quadricep/TFL stretch - 30 seconds each position https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsM64G546-0
x 2 per day

Foam rolling your glutes will help too, 2-3 mins a day is plenty.

Have been reading recent research saying that foam rolling the ITB itself actually doesn't do that much other than compress it, rather than stretch it! New stuff coming out all the time and will keep an eye on that line of thought.
Thanks for the tips will give it a go!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 16, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D

I sometimes wear them to work.......... under jeans or whatever ;D
After a tough session - and at my age every session is tough - they seem to help muscle recovery. I was told to do this and I find it helps. But like a lot of things in running and any sport (and dont talk to me about fishing), a lot of stuff is in the head.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 16, 2014, 10:58:12 PM
Quote from: moysider on January 16, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 16, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 16, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
Folks, what are people's opinion on running tights, they look naff but do they help prevent injury?
Don't wear them myself, think they are a bit unnecessary in Ireland, sub zero temperatures maybe they have a place. Softens you up too...legs don't be long warming up if you are moving... :D

I sometimes wear them to work.......... under jeans or whatever ;D
After a tough session - and at my age every session is tough - they seem to help muscle recovery. I was told to do this and I find it helps. But like a lot of things in running and any sport (and dont talk to me about fishing), a lot of stuff is in the head.
Do they have a suspender belt?! You better hope you don't get knocked down and they have to cut off your trousers!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 17, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
Running tights  ::)
Shorts and t shirt no matter what the weather for me.

I was going to do the Run a Muck 10k in Kildare, didn't realise it was same day as Carlingford.
Haven't signed up for Run a Muck yet so if there is enough of ye doing Carlingford I'll do it too.
Magpie Seanie owes me a pint anyway so he better do it as well!
Tony Baloney have you got off yer hole yet?
Baby steps my friend. Preparation is vital.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 17, 2014, 11:36:49 PM
I signed up today
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
I extended my normal route (oh matron) 4.65 miles in 35 mins. Looking to get it up to 6 soon to get a few 10 k races in
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on January 22, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Signed up for the full Belfast Marathon in May and intend to try and follow the program below for it.  Will be fitting it in around hurling training from now until the big day.  Started off on Monday on week 2, with 3 miles, and have 4 to do this evening, but my legs are in agony!  Did plenty of stretching before and after and spent last night doing flexability and foam rolling...will the pain get more bearable? Or are my legs going to ache for the next 4 months? 

Haven't done any proper running outside hurling training really ever..will I be able to do both effectively?   

(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/mattshoe/2012/St%20George%20Marathon/16weekmarathonschedulecopy_zpsd4d460d3.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 22, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Signed up for the full Belfast Marathon in May and intend to try and follow the program below for it.  Will be fitting it in around hurling training from now until the big day.  Started off on Monday on week 2, with 3 miles, and have 4 to do this evening, but my legs are in agony!  Did plenty of stretching before and after and spent last night doing flexability and foam rolling...will the pain get more bearable? Or are my legs going to ache for the next 4 months? 

Haven't done any proper running outside hurling training really ever..will I be able to do both effectively?   

(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/mattshoe/2012/St%20George%20Marathon/16weekmarathonschedulecopy_zpsd4d460d3.jpg)

Fair play, I'd say it will be hard enough to fit in with the hurling also, You'll probably have a match on the Sunday beforehand lol

Running on the pitch and running on the roads are completely different and you legs will ache till they adjust I'd imagine, trainers important also so look for the shoe that will fit you best and don't worry about price.

Seems grand up to week 7, the rest looks tough right through
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 22, 2014, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 22, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Signed up for the full Belfast Marathon in May and intend to try and follow the program below for it.  Will be fitting it in around hurling training from now until the big day.  Started off on Monday on week 2, with 3 miles, and have 4 to do this evening, but my legs are in agony!  Did plenty of stretching before and after and spent last night doing flexability and foam rolling...will the pain get more bearable? Or are my legs going to ache for the next 4 months? 

Haven't done any proper running outside hurling training really ever..will I be able to do both effectively?   

(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/mattshoe/2012/St%20George%20Marathon/16weekmarathonschedulecopy_zpsd4d460d3.jpg)

I'm on something similar - I'm in week 3 of that now. I'm being flexible with it though - this week I've done the 3 and 4 mile run already (Monday and Tuesday), I'm going for the 7 mile run on Friday and going to do my first park run (waterworks) on Saturday morning (5km) - that's the plan anyway, will see how I feel after Friday night. For the 3 mile runs I've been heading for some hills and trying to go a bit faster.

I started a week early and have added in an extra 22 mile run in Week 13/week 14 as I'll be ahead of the plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 01:42:36 PM
Looks like a good logical plan for your first marathon. In combination with the Hurling training, it will keep you nicely occupied to say the least. Listen to your body though, don't stick too rigidly to the program if you aren't feeling up to it on a given day.....

I'm currently in week in week 7 of this plan for Boston on the 21st of April. Feeling in better shape than in 2012 when I followed this plan too.Easy runs are coming in at 7.30ish per mile average. Have the half marathon in Carlingford and another on Paddys Pay and a weekend away in Manchester in a few weekends time that will disrupt it a little bit but no harm.

(http://image.slidesharecdn.com/three-hourmarathontrainingplan-pfitzinger55-70-111103213548-phpapp01/95/slide-1-728.jpg?cb=1327461703)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 22, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
I've been looking at doing one of these plans myself for the Dublin Marathon.
I think I will go with one of the Hal Higdon ones.
Most likely this one http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51138/Marathon-Novice-2-Training-Program

Obviously the Dublin Marathon isn't till October so to soon to start the plan but what should I be doing until I start the plan?
At the moment I am doing a few 5k-10ks during the week with one of them at a faster pace then I try and do a 10k+ at the weekend usually a 13k-17k at a slow enough pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 03:05:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 22, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
I've been looking at doing one of these plans myself for the Dublin Marathon.
I think I will go with one of the Hal Higdon ones.
Most likely this one http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51138/Marathon-Novice-2-Training-Program

Obviously the Dublin Marathon isn't till October so to soon to start the plan but what should I be doing until I start the plan?
At the moment I am doing a few 5k-10ks during the week with one of them at a faster pace then I try and do a 10k+ at the weekend usually a 13k-17k at a slow enough pace.
Looks like a v solid plan as all Hal Higdon ones are. You don't really need to be thinking about Dublin until maybe June.
I would in the meantime gradually start getting used to running an extra day a week.
Add in 1 session of conditioning if you can instead of a run to prepare the hips and knees for the training ahead, prevent injury that will banjax your training.
Here a few quality ones that I've been doing once a week.

http://www.kinetic-revolution.com/mo-farah-galen-rupps-stability-routine/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2014, 03:23:40 PM
That's a great site Ballinaman - would swear by it.

Yes LL - get the body used to more running but at a progressive level. Maybe if you want to take in a race or two and see what you're caoable of but you want to start a plan fresh too so it's about finding a balance.

Conditioning of glutes very important so basic exercises and a bit of stretching.

BM more speedwork than I would say you need for a marathon in that plan but I suppose speed in the legs always good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 22, 2014, 03:23:40 PM
That's a great site Ballinaman - would swear by it.

Yes LL - get the body used to more running but at a progressive level. Maybe if you want to take in a race or two and see what you're caoable of but you want to start a plan fresh too so it's about finding a balance.

Conditioning of glutes very important so basic exercises and a bit of stretching.

BM more speedwork than I would say you need for a marathon in that plan but I suppose speed in the legs always good.
Yep, they are on the ball. Do you listen to the podcast? Well worth a look, find them much better than Marathon Talk which is more popular.

Ya, there is a nice bit of speed in the race prep part of the program but it's really the lactic threshold and tempo runs that I feel are where you get your improvements.
Plan to do a 21 on Saturday morning in the Phoenix Park. Doing the Irish Runner 5 mile course 4 times and a bit in reverse a few times, long hills and long downhills are the key for Boston I've been told. Last 6 miles are basically downhill after heartbreak hill and if you don't have the hammers or glutes used to running downhill when tired you'll cramp up big style.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
I bought a core program from them (only 3.99 mind) and subscribed to their online running course thing - more out of interest than anything else. I've only occassionally listened to their podcast but read a lot of their material and think it's top drawer. i've been out for ages so core and cross training is all I've been doing but their program has brought me on a lot.

Yes tempo for marathon is where the gains are at. I've only ran phoenix park once for the great ireland run - I ran a 5k PB in the first half of a 10k and the 2nd half(the one with the hills) was a blur as I was hanging on but I do remember thinking - when the feck will these hills ever end!!

What's your marathon PB? You ran 2:5x something didn't you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 22, 2014, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 22, 2014, 03:23:40 PM
That's a great site Ballinaman - would swear by it.

Yes LL - get the body used to more running but at a progressive level. Maybe if you want to take in a race or two and see what you're caoable of but you want to start a plan fresh too so it's about finding a balance.

Conditioning of glutes very important so basic exercises and a bit of stretching.

BM more speedwork than I would say you need for a marathon in that plan but I suppose speed in the legs always good.
Yep, they are on the ball. Do you listen to the podcast? Well worth a look, find them much better than Marathon Talk which is more popular.

Ya, there is a nice bit of speed in the race prep part of the program but it's really the lactic threshold and tempo runs that I feel are where you get your improvements.
Plan to do a 21 on Saturday morning in the Phoenix Park. Doing the Irish Runner 5 mile course 4 times and a bit in reverse a few times, long hills and long downhills are the key for Boston I've been told. Last 6 miles are basically downhill after heartbreak hill and if you don't have the hammers or glutes used to running downhill when tired you'll cramp up big style.

Does that go up Military Hill?


Edit: Just had a look at I see that it does. This is the route I have been doing on Saturday mornings for my long runs.
It's a nice route with a few tough hills. Went round it twice last Saturday.

Are you out in the Park much? I'm there most Saturday mornings. You've probably sprinted passed me some morning as I'm struggling along at a snails pace!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 06:15:43 PM
imtommygunn : Is that course any use? The 6 week one...Think I'm going to get it soon enough. Looks like it could be good and very affordable, they are making a ball of money off it I reckon. I think I might have to make one! haha...Compared to Santry asking for up to 800euro for there one..crazy money for what they are offering.
Ya, currently at 2.56.31, maybe could have done a bit better but was scared shitless of blowing up ala the 1st marathon. Hope to give it a lash this time but weather in Boston is notorious, freezing...baking heat or windy so will just have to see what it's like.

laoislad : Yep, that's the one...up by St Marys hospital. I park on Furze Road , handy for 5 mile loop. I think I might have passed last Saturday week at the stop of the hill after St.Marys hospital where you veered off the main road to the left down the other path. You had the headphones in so doubt ya heard me saying Up Tranmere and sun was blinding.. :D I'll be out this Saturday Morning,between 8 and 9 depending what time I roll out of the bed.

And you were moving much faster than a snails pace by the way!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2014, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 22, 2014, 06:15:43 PM


And you were moving much faster than a snails pace by the way!

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on January 23, 2014, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 22, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Signed up for the full Belfast Marathon in May and intend to try and follow the program below for it.  Will be fitting it in around hurling training from now until the big day.  Started off on Monday on week 2, with 3 miles, and have 4 to do this evening, but my legs are in agony!  Did plenty of stretching before and after and spent last night doing flexability and foam rolling...will the pain get more bearable? Or are my legs going to ache for the next 4 months? 

Haven't done any proper running outside hurling training really ever..will I be able to do both effectively?   

Fair play, I'd say it will be hard enough to fit in with the hurling also, You'll probably have a match on the Sunday beforehand lol

Running on the pitch and running on the roads are completely different and you legs will ache till they adjust I'd imagine, trainers important also so look for the shoe that will fit you best and don't worry about price.

Seems grand up to week 7, the rest looks tough right through

Almost sure to have a match the day before so that should make things interesting!  Feeling better and a lot looser after yesterday's 4 miles (4.27m in 33:24) than I did after the 3 miles on Monday (3.19m in 24:52).  This is without doubt too fast as I'm punctured after it but I find myself getting bored when I try and slow it down.  Doing another 3 miles this evening so going to try and get the miles in and around 8:30min.  Nice big 6-7 mile run around Glenariffe forest waiting for me on Saturday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2014, 03:03:25 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 23, 2014, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 22, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Signed up for the full Belfast Marathon in May and intend to try and follow the program below for it.  Will be fitting it in around hurling training from now until the big day.  Started off on Monday on week 2, with 3 miles, and have 4 to do this evening, but my legs are in agony!  Did plenty of stretching before and after and spent last night doing flexability and foam rolling...will the pain get more bearable? Or are my legs going to ache for the next 4 months? 

Haven't done any proper running outside hurling training really ever..will I be able to do both effectively?   

Fair play, I'd say it will be hard enough to fit in with the hurling also, You'll probably have a match on the Sunday beforehand lol

Running on the pitch and running on the roads are completely different and you legs will ache till they adjust I'd imagine, trainers important also so look for the shoe that will fit you best and don't worry about price.

Seems grand up to week 7, the rest looks tough right through

Almost sure to have a match the day before so that should make things interesting!  Feeling better and a lot looser after yesterday's 4 miles (4.27m in 33:24) than I did after the 3 miles on Monday (3.19m in 24:52).  This is without doubt too fast as I'm punctured after it but I find myself getting bored when I try and slow it down.  Doing another 3 miles this evening so going to try and get the miles in and around 8:30min.  Nice big 6-7 mile run around Glenariffe forest waiting for me on Saturday!

Aye too fast, good times if you are heading towards 10k races lol. Just get the legs used to running that distance instead of the stuff Culbert had ya doing these last few years ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
Ai - just stick to the slow running for a bit yet to accustom your legs to it. If you're playing hurling you'll get plenty of speed stuff there.

Build up the miles first then worry about speed a bit later when you're used to it.

A heart rate monitor would be a good addition to control your effort levels - i.e. keep the speed down. The more you keep the speed down for a while the mroe you will be able to progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
Ai - just stick to the slow running for a bit yet to accustom your legs to it. If you're playing hurling you'll get plenty of speed stuff there.

Build up the miles first then worry about speed a bit later when you're used to it.

A heart rate monitor would be a good addition to control your effort levels - i.e. keep the speed down. The more you keep the speed down for a while the mroe you will be able to progress.

Working with the heart rate monitor since the new year Tommy, averaging out at 155bpm for 4 miles, looking to do longer trips next few weeks and get a decent 10k race (Downpatrick) should it be at 160 and above or steady enough at that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 23, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
Anyone ever done a VO2 max test?
As part of a bare foot running thing I did in DCU last year there was one included, so got around to it on Monday. There were some serious runners in the room, two that have gone under 4 minutes for the mile and the other lad hit 4.04 on the Sunday, they were probably wondering what this clown was at. They seem to be doing great research in there in fairness.
Anyway, my excuse is that I was out Frdiay and Saturday nites but hit 62.6%, which apparently is ok, elite athletes are >70%. I'll have to do some reading into % of what but that kinda thing interests me. HR maxed out at 189
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2014, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
Ai - just stick to the slow running for a bit yet to accustom your legs to it. If you're playing hurling you'll get plenty of speed stuff there.

Build up the miles first then worry about speed a bit later when you're used to it.

A heart rate monitor would be a good addition to control your effort levels - i.e. keep the speed down. The more you keep the speed down for a while the mroe you will be able to progress.

Working with the heart rate monitor since the new year Tommy, averaging out at 155bpm for 4 miles, looking to do longer trips next few weeks and get a decent 10k race (Downpatrick) should it be at 160 and above or steady enough at that.

Depends on your HR... I would easy run at 140-150. Tempo runs would be high 160s - low 170s. Long runs go between low 140 to 160 but the high end is at the top of a 2 mile hills...  You work it out on your HR zones as it's very specific to each individual - you need to know your min and max. However if you're wanting a fast run I would say you could go higher...

Mayo4sam I have done a lactate threshold test but never a VO2 max one. It's interesting but a real tightner. I wouldn't mind a VO2 max one but have never had access to one without having to pay loads...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 23, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Haven't been in here much. Running has been hit and miss since new year, mostly short stuff.

Did the 10km race in Gosford Park, Markethill last Saturday. Great spot and some castle in it, real Celtic Tiger stuff!! Finished in 38th place in a time of 43.03, was happy enough with that, was a mucky, wet day on a trail course.

Pressure eased with work from this weekend, so will try and get into a schedule.

LL - the hal hidgeon is tried and trusted for people on there marathon. Couldn't go wrong and as Ballinaman said, listen to the body. Try to not go for a best time or at a pace you can run it. Sometimes a nice relaxed pace will help the body, particularly on the longer runs. Try and finish stronger than you started and you'll feel the benefit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on January 25, 2014, 06:24:55 PM
First ever park run done today - 21:09. Miserable morning but really enjoyed it! Hoping to get that down to under 20 minutes this summer

Great running, which one you do? Watterworks?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 25, 2014, 09:18:25 PM
Not bad TYP, and better than my PB on that course. The Waterworks is a great course for Parkrun, as long as you don't run into a seat like I saw a young fella do at Christmas.

At 9:30am I had played a couple of holes golf only to be called in as the course had just closed :-(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2014, 09:39:21 PM
Does Belfast do a half marathon that day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 25, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
The first Belfast half was last September, on the day of the AI football final. There is a fun-run and relay on the day of the full marathon on May bank holiday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
8.2 K today, extended the run a bit, 1.8 to add to it to get the distance. Managed in those conditions (Though I missed the worst of it) to do it in 38 mins, wee bit more to find for my target time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 28, 2014, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 17, 2014, 11:36:49 PM
I signed up today
Signed up there too for the 1/2 in Carlingford.

3 days left when it's 25 euro, goes up by 10 then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 03:58:05 PM
Have a 4k loop I run at lunchtime 2-3 times a week. Keeps me ticking over nicely and try to get a longer run in at the weekend. Today was magic. Just one of those days where for no particular reason I felt brilliant and crushed my previous best time. I'm still operating at the slow end of things but for me it was great.

Still not sure if I can make Carlingford. Looking forward to getting a pint with LL after years of us fighting like looneys with each other but just not sure if I can make it or not. If I do I'll do the 10k. If not I'll have to settle for the 10k in Bundoran that weekend. Will be my first 10k either way that weekend, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:02:33 PM
Having finally reached 5k I took two months off to celebrate.

+4kgs.

I start again next week. This time the goal is to actually run a 5k race somewhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 28, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
Best of luck with the future endeavors MS, i know how you feel, went out for a run last night in Dublin in the rain, everything felt good, did a 15k loop and like you crushed my time, could have ran the loop again.....its nights like that that make it worthwhile....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 28, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
Best of luck with the future endeavors MS, i know how you feel, went out for a run last night in Dublin in the rain, everything felt good, did a 15k loop and like you crushed my time, could have ran the loop again.....its nights like that that make it worthwhile....

Yeah - that's why I said I'd mention it. I get a few of the opposite too mind you, when for no reason you just struggle and grind out the run and the only enjoyment is 30 seconds after it's over!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 03:58:05 PM
Have a 4k loop I run at lunchtime 2-3 times a week. Keeps me ticking over nicely and try to get a longer run in at the weekend. Today was magic. Just one of those days where for no particular reason I felt brilliant and crushed my previous best time. I'm still operating at the slow end of things but for me it was great.

Still not sure if I can make Carlingford. Looking forward to getting a pint with LL after years of us fighting like looneys with each other but just not sure if I can make it or not. If I do I'll do the 10k. If not I'll have to settle for the 10k in Bundoran that weekend. Will be my first 10k either way that weekend, fingers crossed.

I'm raging that I'll miss it as I'm in Derry with the missus for a dirty romantic weekend but have plans to do the Jimmy 10k in Downpatrick day before Paddy's day, though I've run into a snag with that already, mates 50th (50!! fcuk) is on the Sat in Belfast so I'll have to watch my drink :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 28, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:02:33 PM
Having finally reached 5k I took two months off to celebrate.

+4kgs.

I start again next week. This time the goal is to actually run a 5k race somewhere.
There is a parkrun in Westport muppet....free 5k every Saturday morning. Could be a good target.

http://www.parkrun.ie/westport/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 28, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:02:33 PM
Having finally reached 5k I took two months off to celebrate.

+4kgs.

I start again next week. This time the goal is to actually run a 5k race somewhere.
There is a parkrun in Westport muppet....free 5k every Saturday morning. Could be a good target.

http://www.parkrun.ie/westport/

Cheers but the one in Malahide is much closer these days.

Westport would be a nice longer term target though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 28, 2014, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 28, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2014, 04:02:33 PM
Having finally reached 5k I took two months off to celebrate.

+4kgs.

I start again next week. This time the goal is to actually run a 5k race somewhere.
There is a parkrun in Westport muppet....free 5k every Saturday morning. Could be a good target.

http://www.parkrun.ie/westport/

Cheers but the one in Malahide is much closer these days.

Westport would be a nice longer term target though.
haha, fair enough. Lovely one in St Anne's park Raheny, flat as a pancake and there is one starting in Ardgillan in Balbriggan in 2 weeks...tough course though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Btw those runs where everything feels great are just magic!
Few and far between but they keep you going.
Bit like how a good round of Golf or in my case one good golf shot out of 100+ makes you want to go play another 18 straight away!
I've had a great month of running so far. Have done almost 120km this month and have all been decent enough runs for me.
I dunno about ye but I love running in the rain!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 28, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
Lads

I'm getting into the training a bit more - into week 5 now of the marathon training. Got up to just over 7 mile last Friday and felt comfortable enough.

I'm doing 3 relatively short runs a week at the moment (2 x 3 mile and 1 x 4 mile) and then my longer run at the weekend - I'm increasing that by a mile or two every week. The shorter runs will increase as I go as well up to a maximum of 2 x 5 mile and 1 x 8 mile). Up unil last week I'd been going fairly flat out for all the runs but that obviously isn't going to keep up and I suppose isn't what I should be doing either.

So I invested in a Polar heart rate monitor. I did the resting heart rate test and it came in at 47. My maximum heart rate is 187. So I think that leaves my aerobic heart rate at 131 - 145 beats per minute and anaerobic at 159 - 173 beats per minute. My plan now is to stay in the aerobic zone or just above it for the long weekend run, for the shortest two runs to be in the anaerobic zone (increased speed and hills), and for the longer mid-week run to be somewhere in the middle.

Does that sound logical or am I totally missing the point of monitoring my heart rate?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
What are you hoping to achieve from the shorter runs - fitness or speed??

One of the best forms of training in my view is what is called tempo running. Tempo running is also known as Lactate Threshold training. Lactate Threshold is below anaerobic - to be honest you won't benefit particularly much for longer distance running going anaerobic (unless you're talking shorter intervals). Lactate Threshold training is 85% (max) so in your case you shouldn't push it any more than about 166.

It works very well - train below the edge but only just and then it keeps pushing it. One a week of 4 to 5 mile is what I normally would do...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Btw those runs where everything feels great are just magic!
Few and far between but they keep you going.
Bit like how a good round of Golf or in my case one good golf shot out of 100+ makes you want to go play another 18 straight away!
I've had a great month of running so far. Have done almost 120km this month and have all been decent enough runs for me.
I dunno about ye but I love running in the rain!

I do too and always liked playing football in the rain. It's the wind that's a pain (unless it''s at my back!).

Pity that you'll miss Carlingford but pretty obvious you need to do the Kildare one. 120k this month is brilliant. Hard to think you would barely manage 20 minutes running 7 months or so ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Btw those runs where everything feels great are just magic!
Few and far between but they keep you going.
Bit like how a good round of Golf or in my case one good golf shot out of 100+ makes you want to go play another 18 straight away!
I've had a great month of running so far. Have done almost 120km this month and have all been decent enough runs for me.
I dunno about ye but I love running in the rain!

I do too and always liked playing football in the rain. It's the wind that's a pain (unless it''s at my back!).

Pity that you'll miss Carlingford but pretty obvious you need to do the Kildare one. 120k this month is brilliant. Hard to think you would barely manage 20 minutes running 7 months or so ago.

No problem running his mouth off though ;)

Yep, seems there's a lot on the running game here now. I've only managed to record half that distance as I'll be in the gym on the treads but 120 is some distance in four weeks LL
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Btw those runs where everything feels great are just magic!
Few and far between but they keep you going.
Bit like how a good round of Golf or in my case one good golf shot out of 100+ makes you want to go play another 18 straight away!
I've had a great month of running so far. Have done almost 120km this month and have all been decent enough runs for me.
I dunno about ye but I love running in the rain!

I do too and always liked playing football in the rain. It's the wind that's a pain (unless it''s at my back!).

Pity that you'll miss Carlingford but pretty obvious you need to do the Kildare one. 120k this month is brilliant. Hard to think you would barely manage 20 minutes running 7 months or so ago.

No problem running his mouth off though ;)

Yep, seems there's a lot on the running game here now. I've only managed to record half that distance as I'll be in the gym on the treads but 120 is some distance in four weeks LL
The wife's been annoyed with me all month, I can't say anything right to her at the moment!
Great excuse to get out of house and go running hence all the  km!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 28, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Btw those runs where everything feels great are just magic!
Few and far between but they keep you going.
Bit like how a good round of Golf or in my case one good golf shot out of 100+ makes you want to go play another 18 straight away!
I've had a great month of running so far. Have done almost 120km this month and have all been decent enough runs for me.
I dunno about ye but I love running in the rain!

I do too and always liked playing football in the rain. It's the wind that's a pain (unless it''s at my back!).

Pity that you'll miss Carlingford but pretty obvious you need to do the Kildare one. 120k this month is brilliant. Hard to think you would barely manage 20 minutes running 7 months or so ago.

No problem running his mouth off though ;)

Yep, seems there's a lot on the running game here now. I've only managed to record half that distance as I'll be in the gym on the treads but 120 is some distance in four weeks LL
The wife's been annoyed with me all month, I can't say anything right to her at the moment!
Great excuse to get out of house and go running hence all the  km!

Problem is you're out running, getting the fit and healthy feeling, healthy dinners no doubt and feeling good, it's January, it's cold the shopping spree is well over and she's pissed off at the new you!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 29, 2014, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 28, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
What are you hoping to achieve from the shorter runs - fitness or speed??

One of the best forms of training in my view is what is called tempo running. Tempo running is also known as Lactate Threshold training. Lactate Threshold is below anaerobic - to be honest you won't benefit particularly much for longer distance running going anaerobic (unless you're talking shorter intervals). Lactate Threshold training is 85% (max) so in your case you shouldn't push it any more than about 166.

It works very well - train below the edge but only just and then it keeps pushing it. One a week of 4 to 5 mile is what I normally would do...

A mixture of fitness and speed - is that taking the easy way out? My main goal is to get round the marathon course inside 4 hours. Having said that, I'd prefer to be doing it closer to 3 and a half. The tempo running sounds good - I'll start working that in to one of my shorter mid week runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 09:31:01 AM
You're better focussing it.

When training you're better targetting what kind of fitness by training in "zones". The tempo training is a zone that works for any distance of running so I would recommend one a week in your training.

If you try fitness and speed you'll get a bit of both but not enough of either...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 10:41:24 AM
Maybe a table would be handy to keep track/compare/thrash talk. Sets out a goal for the year as well so you can see who you're comparing yourself to.
Kms of course

I've added in the last few posters so you can see the format, just quote the last post with the table in it to change the table










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunn000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2000000000000
Take_yer_points000000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 29, 2014, 11:00:27 AM
Ah here....I'm a miles man myself....is the 164.39 you're total km for January?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 11:14:37 AM
My goal is sub 20mins for 5k (was my target last year but had a hamstring injury for a fair bit) and 43mins for 10k, Kilometers so far in Jan has been 95, mix of outside runs and running on treads.

Strava has a great site to log everyones targets
Title: Re: Running
Post by: downredblack on January 29, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
Anyone ever suffer from Plantar fasciitis (joggers heel ) ? What can you do get rid of it ? Appreciate any help .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 10:41:24 AM
Maybe a table would be handy to keep track/compare/thrash talk. Sets out a goal for the year as well so you can see who you're comparing yourself to.
Kms of course

I've added in the last few posters so you can see the format, just quote the last post with the table in it to change the table










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunn000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k9500000000000
Take_yer_points000000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Billys Boots on January 29, 2014, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: downredblack on January 29, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
Anyone ever suffer from Plantar fasciitis (joggers heel ) ? What can you do get rid of it ? Appreciate any help .

Stretch your achilles tendon before running - lots of heel-drops always helped me with that.  I didn't have your condition, but (football-related) wrecked ankle-joints.  If you've had achilles injuries you'll need to get rid of any remaining scar tissue through physiotherapy or physical therapy. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 11:57:00 AM
Stretch the calves out... Also you can roll either a tennis ball or a coke can beneath the feet. Check out youtube for it. It'll hurt but do it daily until it doesn't any more. The calves are probably the symptom but the coke can will get rid of the effect so try and address both...

First run last week as I'm on the recovery from "chronic achilles tendonitis" so that's my excuse for 20k!! On a good month hit about 160-170 miles...

Table screwed up on me so will post it when I work it out!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 12:02:07 PM
6 miles a day or so, when you break it down like that it doesn't really sound as massive, which in practice it really is. 10K a day for a month!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 29, 2014, 11:00:27 AM
Ah here....I'm a miles man myself....is the 164.39 you're total km for January?

Its not the dark ages Ballinaman, I know yer a little slow to catch onto things in town but Archies is long gone, I think he brought miles with him
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 29, 2014, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 10:41:24 AM











NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunn000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2000000000000
Take_yer_points000000000000
Magpie Seanie00000000000
Moysider
The Deel Rover0

Added in Moy and Deel Rover too there...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on January 29, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
I'm assuming the totals are in kms










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunn000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on January 29, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
I'm assuming the totals are in kms










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on January 29, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
I'm assuming the totals are in kms










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000

Plus ~12 hours on the cross trainer as I'm only coming back from injury so that's my excuse!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: downredblack on January 29, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 29, 2014, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: downredblack on January 29, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
Anyone ever suffer from Plantar fasciitis (joggers heel ) ? What can you do get rid of it ? Appreciate any help .

Stretch your achilles tendon before running - lots of heel-drops always helped me with that.  I didn't have your condition, but (football-related) wrecked ankle-joints.  If you've had achilles injuries you'll need to get rid of any remaining scar tissue through physiotherapy or physical therapy.

Thks Billy and imtommygunn
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on January 29, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
I'm assuming the totals are in kms










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
Laoislad000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000

Plus ~12 hours on the cross trainer as I'm only coming back from injury so that's my excuse!!

So will put in the 4 spin sessions a week and swm sessions? though the swimming would only amount up to a mile!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
get outta it, this is running only
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 29, 2014, 02:18:43 PM










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
Ballinaman000000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 29, 2014, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 29, 2014, 02:18:43 PM










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 marathon April 21,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 29, 2014, 03:41:34 PM
Stick me on that list.

Bingo Goal - sub 40m for 10km and sub 1.30hr for half

Jan Kms - Est 110km.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Ya lazy bollix Bingo, ur getting a pass cause you were on the sauce last nite











NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM1100000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 29, 2014, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Ya lazy bollix Bingo, ur getting a pass cause you were on the sauce last nite

Cheers  :D, never mind the sauce but trust I'd have made a complete balls of that table, even quoting it scared me and I deleted it  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 29, 2014, 09:17:28 PM
I'm in the ha'penny place with all the guys on this list but I'll keep this updated. My main goal for the year is to finish the Warriors Run in Strandhill in August. It's a 15k run up and down a mountain in my home parish and I've never done it. I simply have to do it.

Will update January km's tomorrow but it's a low enough number.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on January 29, 2014, 10:57:44 PM
Made a bit of a balls of the figures below the months. I can correct it each month - like the idea of this, an extra motivating factor.

Have a half marathon 03/08/14 which I am hoping to build for.

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2014, 05:10:33 PM










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM1100000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie Seanie000000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        0   0     0     0   0    0    0    0    0    0    0

[/td][/tr][/table]
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Hope to do a couple of 1/2 Marathons . January has been a quite month ran about 60k about 15k per week + soccer for 1 night a week.
Have any of ye lads done the Achill Marathon ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 30, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Hope to do a couple of 1/2 Marathons . January has been a quite month ran about 60k about 15k per week + soccer for 1 night a week.
Have any of ye lads done the Achill Marathon ?
Did the 1/2 in 2011 I think...bitchy enough course, I remember there being an ambulance at the top of a huge hill at 10 miles..says it all! Worth doing though, class atmosphere round the place.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 30, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Hope to do a couple of 1/2 Marathons . January has been a quite month ran about 60k about 15k per week + soccer for 1 night a week.
Have any of ye lads done the Achill Marathon ?
Did the 1/2 in 2011 I think...bitchy enough course, I remember there being an ambulance at the top of a huge hill at 10 miles..says it all! Worth doing though, class atmosphere round the place.

Have you been down west recently Ballinaman ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 30, 2014, 03:44:29 PM










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM1100000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        0   0     0     0   0    0    0    0    0    0    0



Updated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on January 30, 2014, 05:30:17 PM











NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000


Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 30, 2014, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Hope to do a couple of 1/2 Marathons . January has been a quite month ran about 60k about 15k per week + soccer for 1 night a week.
Have any of ye lads done the Achill Marathon ?

Did it last year, was tough enough, but if you have a bit of mountain/hill work done, its grand, Connemara a lot tougher..

Can i be added to the list, have ran 127.9KMs, goals, 10k sub-45 mins, Connemara 1/2 sub 1.50, Berlin Marathon Sub 4 hours..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2014, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 30, 2014, 03:44:29 PM










NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM1100000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9800000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        0   0     0     0   0    0    0    0    0    0    0



Updated.

Updated
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2014, 05:30:17 PM












NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                9500000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins000000000000



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: dec on January 30, 2014, 05:30:17 PM












NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon123.700000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.200000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins000000000000




Forgot to add I did 4.5 miles on Friday the 31st. 6 miles tomorrow I hope with the weather
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 02, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 30, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Hope to do a couple of 1/2 Marathons . January has been a quite month ran about 60k about 15k per week + soccer for 1 night a week.
Have any of ye lads done the Achill Marathon ?

done the 1/2 4 times. It s minutes slower than a flatter 1/2 and a great experience but if you attack it there is no hiding place. Miles 2,3 and 4 are a long drag. A hill. Later at miles about 10 and 11 there are 'steep hills'   It is a proper test .

What s the story with this tably thingy ye have goin . People goals and stuff? I know I ran 131 miles in Jan.(miissed 5 days with a chest dose). Not sure I care about Kms even though I ve always been an admirer of Napoleon Bonaparte.
Anyway dunno if I can improve much at my age. Unless I give up the rollies and the pinting
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 11:43:54 AM
Just completed 8.8K to find another 1.2k on my route, finished it bang on 40 minutes, I had nearly a faster last k than my first!! Getting stronger I think. Targey of 43 minutes for 10k looking good, calf was getting a bit tight so need to give it the foam roller for a bit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 12:00:02 PM













NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon133.300000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.200000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins000000000000




Updated for end January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 12:00:02 PM













NameGoalJanFebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon133.300000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.28.80000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins000000000000




Updated for end January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 02, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 12:00:02 PM













Moysider5k sub 20; 10k 42something210FebMarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   164.39   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k2000000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon133.300000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.200000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         00000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run3200000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins000000000000




Updated for end January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.
It's not a competition to be fair Rois.
Everyone on his thread is a different levels and there is no competitiveness between anyone as far as I can see. I doubt I would have stayed at the running if it wasn't for the support I got on this thread. If I started comparing myself and trying to compete with the likes of imtommygunn,Bingo and ballinaman I wouldn't have been long giving it up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.

Best maybe to update it at end of month then
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.
It's not a competition to be fair Rois.
Everyone on his thread is a different levels and there is no competitiveness between anyone as far as I can see. I doubt I would have stayed at the running if it wasn't for the support I got on this thread. If I started comparing myself and trying to compete with the likes of imtommygunn,Bingo and ballinaman I wouldn't have been long giving it up!
Oh I completely agree, the runners on here are great at encouraging everyone and I love reading the tips. Is there no way you can make it a link to an excel page somewhere? Tis great to see how everyone is getting on but not every day with a thread full of copy and paste tables.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 02, 2014, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.
It's not a competition to be fair Rois.
Everyone on his thread is a different levels and there is no competitiveness between anyone as far as I can see. I doubt I would have stayed at the running if it wasn't for the support I got on this thread. If I started comparing myself and trying to compete with the likes of imtommygunn,Bingo and ballinaman I wouldn't have been long giving it up!
No Tony Baloney on that list?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 02, 2014, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 02, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Might have to avoid this thread if it's just going to consist of tables and a competition to see who can run the most miles.
It's not a competition to be fair Rois.
Everyone on his thread is a different levels and there is no competitiveness between anyone as far as I can see. I doubt I would have stayed at the running if it wasn't for the support I got on this thread. If I started comparing myself and trying to compete with the likes of imtommygunn,Bingo and ballinaman I wouldn't have been long giving it up!
No Tony Baloney on that list?
Tony Baloney needs to lay off the Jaffa Cakes and hit the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physio every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physic every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.

A physic??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physic every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.

A physic??

Yeah, it's the new thing to be at. All the pros are doing it  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physic every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.

A physic??

Yeah, it's the new thing to be at. All the pros are doing it  ;)

I'll try anything once!! Look enjoy yourself in Paris, it's a bummer but you'll manage to get round walking and jogging
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 03, 2014, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physio every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.

Why do it so? I thought I was in good shape goin into Dublin but by halfway I was in trouble.  A bit further on the periformis, sciatic nerve, hamstring, groin and ITB combined to give me an hour and a 1/2 from hell.

Still running but have constant groin problem from the periformis as well as hamstring that threatens to go into spasm when the pace goes up. I ve worn out foam rollers! Too much wear and tear and years  :'(
I might have to just accept that I m not structurally sound enough for marathons.

If you re still a kid ( under40) you ll be able to recover. But dont start a marathon thinking you ll end up walking. They re bloody painful enough at the best of times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on February 03, 2014, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physio every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.


Sounds like you're going to remember Paris for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on February 03, 2014, 06:57:06 AM
Wanted to get added into this table, but hurt my knee over a week ago.

Just back from the physio - she's treating me for spasming muscles, and if I;m not responding in a couple of days she's going to send me for a scan.

She gave me dry needling and a very hard massage. Was sore cos my calf muscle was knotted to f**k.

Hopefully she's right and it is just muscular, would be the quickest recovery time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 03, 2014, 01:14:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2014, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
Paris marathon in 2 months and I am struggling to run more than 5 miles!! Knee is fucked with ITB. Complete pain in the ass as I was running 13 mile before Xmas without a problem and now my knee won't let me run past 5 mile ffs. I am still going to do it but it could be a walk for half of it ffs. Foam rolling everyday and seeing a physic every wednesday but its a slow recovery process.

A physic??

JS - I know everyone is different, but I had a similar problem about 10 years ago in the months leading up to the NY marathon. Had got to 15 miles in training and then struggled for over a month and then bruised both feet running on a beach (Don't ask!) I eventually just relied on painkillers and a wee bit of ignorance and made it - didn't run more that 12 miles in the three weeks leading up to it just in case! Hope you get there!!

Yeah, it's the new thing to be at. All the pros are doing it  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2014, 08:15:52 PM
Was at the gym this morning and did my Friday run, 2.9 miles in 20 minutes flat, felt like I had a wee bit more and should have went through the gears early and held out for the 5k in under 20.

Calf's getting tight too, hamstrings fine, what about those compression socks you can use on the calf's, can they help?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 08, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
*RANT WARNING*

20 miles in the park this morning and had stashed 2 gels and a bottle of water at the 10 mile point under a bench well hidden....arrive to find the gels opened and used and water poured out....SOUND. Needless to say I cursed the fcuker all the way then, legs were hurting big time when I went over the 2 hours then. Hope the fcuker choked on it!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 02:33:35 PM
Scumbags. Have heard of that happen a few times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 08, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 08, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
*RANT WARNING*

20 miles in the park this morning and had stashed 2 gels and a bottle of water at the 10 mile point under a bench well hidden....arrive to find the gels opened and used and water poured out....SOUND. Needless to say I cursed the fcuker all the way then, legs were hurting big time when I went over the 2 hours then. Hope the fcuker choked on it!

Aye thanks for that they were lovely  ;)

Joking aside that's a wankish thing to do alright. I usually have the car parked somewhere easy enough so I can stop and get a bottle of water or whatever as I run past.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 08, 2014, 02:56:13 PM
Haha...sound laoislad, your lucky day with free gels and then the Pool match!

Just annoying though, petty like..car was on other side of the park! Currently a very sore man watching the rugby, not good to be running that long with no water!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 08, 2014, 03:52:00 PM
I trained for the marathon without ever taking any water. Then, on actual marathon day, I took sips at the various water station. However when I got to the 21 mile mark, the water was swishing around in my stomach. I'd have been better without it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 08, 2014, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 08, 2014, 03:52:00 PM
I trained for the marathon without ever taking any water. Then, on actual marathon day, I took sips at the various water station. However when I got to the 21 mile mark, the water was swishing around in my stomach. I'd have been better without it.
Ya without practicing in training you probably would have been. You would have been better for it if you had trained with taking some on board though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 08, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 08, 2014, 03:52:00 PM
I trained for the marathon without ever taking any water. Then, on actual marathon day, I took sips at the various water station. However when I got to the 21 mile mark, the water was swishing around in my stomach. I'd have been better without it.

I heard you had a dodgy tummy that day alright......
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Kk6QZY5G_b8/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 07:08:06 PM
11 k today, I wanted to change it a bit and kept pace reasonable, was breathing easily the whole way and wasn't in a mess when I got back, 53 mins, I sprinted last k. Going to push out to 15 K next
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
Just back from my lunchtime 4k. As I stepped out the first few flakes of snow dropped and it ended up snowing heavily enough for the duration. It was magic! Beat my pb for that route with a nice controlled run. Am making a bit of progress with my pace over the 4-5k distance. Need to up the distances though but am running regularly again after it being a bit hit and miss for a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 11, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
Just back from my lunchtime 4k. As I stepped out the first few flakes of snow dropped and it ended up snowing heavily enough for the duration. It was magic! Beat my pb for that route with a nice controlled run. Am making a bit of progress with my pace over the 4-5k distance. Need to up the distances though but am running regularly again after it being a bit hit and miss for a while.
Careful Seanie! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f85bdCzrNkY
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 11, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
Just back from my lunchtime 4k. As I stepped out the first few flakes of snow dropped and it ended up snowing heavily enough for the duration. It was magic! Beat my pb for that route with a nice controlled run. Am making a bit of progress with my pace over the 4-5k distance. Need to up the distances though but am running regularly again after it being a bit hit and miss for a while.
Careful Seanie! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f85bdCzrNkY

Classic
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
I didn't have to stop to do any interviews!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 11, 2014, 02:54:47 PM
Who else is in for the Carlingford run??
LL has pulled plant anyway, Ballinaman and myself are in at HM & 10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 02:56:41 PM
I've just started this couch to 10k lark. 2 nights in. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 02:56:41 PM
I've just started this couch to 10k lark. 2 nights in. Hmmmm.

You'll be fine!! Head phone in and run at your leisure
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
I used to get fit fairly handy, but I'm 40 now. The first two nights were grand, but I find running boring. I'll stick at it though, because I need to get back to some semblance of fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
I think Carlingford is going to be a bit awkward for me so I reckon I won't make it. Sorry guys - fully intended to make it but sometimes you have to pick your battles! Will probably do my first 10k that weekend in Bundoran instead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
I used to get fit fairly handy, but I'm 40 now. The first two nights were grand, but I find running boring. I'll stick at it though, because I need to get back to some semblance of fitness.

It is boring but pick a distance and make that your goal, I aint doing more than 10k and trying to get a decent pace over that distance, hard on your bones. Out of all the classes I do it's the one that burns the most calories, fat and the highest heart rate.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 11, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 11, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
Just back from my lunchtime 4k. As I stepped out the first few flakes of snow dropped and it ended up snowing heavily enough for the duration. It was magic! Beat my pb for that route with a nice controlled run. Am making a bit of progress with my pace over the 4-5k distance. Need to up the distances though but am running regularly again after it being a bit hit and miss for a while.
Careful Seanie! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f85bdCzrNkY

;D Excellent
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 11, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 02:56:41 PM
I've just started this couch to 10k lark. 2 nights in. Hmmmm.

Would you not start with couch to 5k first? Might be less boring and you should get to your goal a bit quicker. You'll have the running bug by then I promise,then you'll be motivated to go onto 10k and more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 11, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 11, 2014, 02:56:41 PM
I've just started this couch to 10k lark. 2 nights in. Hmmmm.

Good man. You'll fly it, although I agree with LL about doing 5K first.

You may not have seen this:

Quote from: muppet on November 18, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
21 years ago I ran a 5 mile road race in just under 30 minutes.

Now I would need cardiac massage after 30 metres.

Quote from: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

Pretty wrecked.

Quote
Quote from: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Quote
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Muppet, keep her lit, I am just back running after a long lay off (serious injury, my leg had a very bad case of lazy arsed-itis!).  You and I can compare our absolute shitedness in terms of metres coverd and days taken!!!  BTW, you have an absolute unfair physical advantage over me, I am a fat b**tard!

Just back from Monsoon training an hour ago.

Went all the way back to the start of C25K. I am determined to finish this time.

Quote from: muppet on August 17, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Back to week 1 again. Attempt number 4.  ::)

I'll run a 5k yet if it f*cking kills me.

Quote from: muppet on September 17, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 17, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Ran 10k for first time ever over weekend. Actually ended up doing 11k as I was feeling good.

The 10k took me just over 55mins which I was happy enough with as I took my time on the first few km so as I wouldn't burn out.Really confident I can get that time down with a bit of practice.
Delighted with myself now as only just over two months ago I couldn't run for 30 seconds without stopping.

Fair play LL.

I have to start again.

5 k*kking K!

30 mins exactly but I don't care.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
Just entered the Jimmy's ten race for the 16th March, very popular race by all accounts. Think Tommy is doing it, anyone else? I'm in Derry the weekend of Carlingford, apologies


http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/JimmysTen1
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 03:57:37 PM
Not this year... Did it last year but only on the comeback. Good race though I wouldn't call it flat...

Will be plenty out to drag you round and you'll get a good feed afterwards!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 03:57:37 PM
Not this year... Did it last year but only on the comeback. Good race though I wouldn't call it flat...

Will be plenty out to drag you round and you'll get a good feed afterwards!

Bit of a hill to start with tommy? Been doing a hilly enough route of late anyways so good enough prep. Looking 43 or below, will I get bogged down at the start?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 04:54:47 PM
There's a sharp hill at the start - if I mind rightly takes you round the back of the cathedral and then you go back down. The rest of it isn't flat but isn't overly hilly. (Goes up a bit on the way out but evens out)

That's early enough though that you'll recover from it alright so nothing too major.

You'd be grand. Try and get nearish the front - you should get a chip time anyway though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 12, 2014, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
Just entered the Jimmy's ten race for the 16th March, very popular race by all accounts. Think Tommy is doing it, anyone else? I'm in Derry the weekend of Carlingford, apologies


http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/JimmysTen1

Aye, I'm doing it. Cathedral Hill at the start is a hoor! Doing our club 10k on Sunday 23rd Feb to see how far off the pace I am!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(

Went out with wife tonight in the wind and rain, not as bad as down south but hard enough!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 12, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(

I haven't been out at all this month!
Staying away working tomorrow so might try and find a hotel with a treadmill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on February 12, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(

I went out. Was just going to do a short one, but ended up doing 28km in 4 and a half minutes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 12, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(

I went out. Was just going to do a short one, but ended up doing 28km in 4 and a half minutes.
[/s] hours
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on February 12, 2014, 10:16:05 PM
Nah. Minutes. I was the far side of Nenagh before I could grab onto something and stop myself. Hoor of a walk home mind you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 15, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Did the marlay park run this morning, tough week of training and a 7k warm up over to it so was happy enough with 19.34, reckon I could go under 19 with a rest week and a better day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 15, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 15, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Did the marlay park run this morning, tough week of training and a 7k warm up over to it so was happy enough with 19.34, reckon I could go under 19 with a rest week and a better day
Great running, few easy days before Carlingford, a good day and correct pacing and sub 40 is well there for ya in the 10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 15, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Did the marlay park run this morning, tough week of training and a 7k warm up over to it so was happy enough with 19.34, reckon I could go under 19 with a rest week and a better day

f**k ya must be like a Gazelle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 15, 2014, 03:10:52 PM
Ya I'd be hopeful enough alright, I'm on the back of six 14-hour weeks so a few days taper would do me the world of good
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 15, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
At the other end of the scale (or approaching it) I did 8k today as I build up for my first 10k in Bundoran. Longest run I've done and it went pretty well for me, better than I hoped for. I was really just concerned with getting the kms in but 46 mins dead was a decent time for me (snails pace for most on here but it's all relative). Mentally now I really know I'll be ok to get round the 10k this day fortnight so happy enough today.

Again sorry to the lads doing Carlingford that I can't join ye. Some other time for sure I hope.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 15, 2014, 10:27:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 12, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
I am definitely not running tonight!   :(

I haven't been out at all this month!
Staying away working tomorrow so might try and find a hotel with a treadmill.
A hotel with a bike instead?  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 15, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
At the other end of the scale (or approaching it) I did 8k today as I build up for my first 10k in Bundoran. Longest run I've done and it went pretty well for me, better than I hoped for. I was really just concerned with getting the kms in but 46 mins dead was a decent time for me (snails pace for most on here but it's all relative). Mentally now I really know I'll be ok to get round the 10k this day fortnight so happy enough today.

Again sorry to the lads doing Carlingford that I can't join ye. Some other time for sure I hope.

Not from where I'm looking.

Good running.

After a Christmas break working myself back up to the 5k.

I might try to go beyond it this time. Either that or improve the 5k time.

Any comments or suggestions?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2014, 08:06:53 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 15, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 15, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
At the other end of the scale (or approaching it) I did 8k today as I build up for my first 10k in Bundoran. Longest run I've done and it went pretty well for me, better than I hoped for. I was really just concerned with getting the kms in but 46 mins dead was a decent time for me (snails pace for most on here but it's all relative). Mentally now I really know I'll be ok to get round the 10k this day fortnight so happy enough today.

Again sorry to the lads doing Carlingford that I can't join ye. Some other time for sure I hope.

Not from where I'm looking.

Good running.

After a Christmas break working myself back up to the 5k.

I might try to go beyond it this time. Either that or improve the 5k time.

Any comments or suggestions?
Great stuff Seanie. Bundoran is a great target to have and you'll enjoy it, maybe not the race itself but definitely the level of satisfaction after it anyway.
I wouldn't give 2 shites about anyone else's pace or times, just put the head down and look after yourself.

Fair play muppet. Sounds like a good plan to have another goal. I know myself if I don't have a race coming down the tracks at me the motivation can be hard, I'd pick a 10k 2-3 months away and target it or else do a park run...do your best and come back in a months time and have another go at it with more training under your belt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
Yes Seanie running is about you against yourself not what pace other people are doing so wouldn't worry.

I would say try getting to 10k muppet and then the fitness will by default improve your 5k time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Fair play magpie. I remember you saying a few months ago you didn't think you'd break 1hr for 10k but you're right on course to do that with your 8k time.

I went out this morning for first time in 2 weeks and struggled through a 5k. Would not going out for a few weeks really have that much of a effect on you? I had done a few 18k a few weeks ago and was barely able finish the 5 today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 16, 2014, 12:01:30 PM
Magpie, this time two years ago I struggled to jog a 5k in 35 mins, I was over 15 stone. It's amazing what a bit of consistency does. After u do the 10k u should look at a club, for me structure is everything.

Muppet, 5k was always an easier target for me, 10k scares me  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 16, 2014, 12:01:30 PM
Magpie, this time two years ago I struggled to jog a 5k in 35 mins, I was over 15 stone. It's amazing what a bit of consistency does. After u do the 10k u should look at a club, for me structure is everything.

Muppet, 5k was always an easier target for me, 10k scares me :-[

Now someone is speaking my language. 10k seems a long long time to be running.

Fair play for the improvement over 2 years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 16, 2014, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Fair play magpie. I remember you saying a few months ago you didn't think you'd break 1hr for 10k but you're right on course to do that with your 8k time.

I went out this morning for first time in 2 weeks and struggled through a 5k. Would not going out for a few weeks really have that much of a effect on you? I had done a few 18k a few weeks ago and was barely able finish the 5 today.

It's always tougher after a break but it should come back to you quick enough once you get into the routine again. I've been much the same myself, very irregular running this last while and nothing during week. The Saturdays have been a hard slog.

Going to get back regular and push the distance out. The senior team in the club where doing running on the track today, so joined them today. Good tight session all speed work and left some if the younger lads trailing behind. When they finished up with two circuits of core work I did suffer though!!

Just get back at it LL and you'll be back to your mark in no time. It's like running a motor after the car has been parked up for a while, just takes a few run ours to clean the pipes. Maybe slow down and not worry about doing the pace you were doing for a run or two.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 16, 2014, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Fair play magpie. I remember you saying a few months ago you didn't think you'd break 1hr for 10k but you're right on course to do that with your 8k time.

I went out this morning for first time in 2 weeks and struggled through a 5k. Would not going out for a few weeks really have that much of a effect on you? I had done a few 18k a few weeks ago and was barely able finish the 5 today.

It's always tougher after a break but it should come back to you quick enough once you get into the routine again. I've been much the same myself, very irregular running this last while and nothing during week. The Saturdays have been a hard slog.

Going to get back regular and push the distance out. The senior team in the club where doing running on the track today, so joined them today. Good tight session all speed work and left some if the younger lads trailing behind. When they finished up with two circuits of core work I did suffer though!!

Just get back at it LL and you'll be back to your mark in no time. It's like running a motor after the car has been parked up for a while, just takes a few run ours to clean the pipes. Maybe slow down and not worry about doing the pace you were doing for a run or two.
My heart has been beating really fast since I got back which is nearly 5 hours ago. Felt a bit dizzy earlier too after the run.
That can't be normal I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 16, 2014, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Fair play magpie. I remember you saying a few months ago you didn't think you'd break 1hr for 10k but you're right on course to do that with your 8k time.

I went out this morning for first time in 2 weeks and struggled through a 5k. Would not going out for a few weeks really have that much of a effect on you? I had done a few 18k a few weeks ago and was barely able finish the 5 today.

It's always tougher after a break but it should come back to you quick enough once you get into the routine again. I've been much the same myself, very irregular running this last while and nothing during week. The Saturdays have been a hard slog.

Going to get back regular and push the distance out. The senior team in the club where doing running on the track today, so joined them today. Good tight session all speed work and left some if the younger lads trailing behind. When they finished up with two circuits of core work I did suffer though!!

Just get back at it LL and you'll be back to your mark in no time. It's like running a motor after the car has been parked up for a while, just takes a few run ours to clean the pipes. Maybe slow down and not worry about doing the pace you were doing for a run or two.
My heart has been beating really fast since I got back which is nearly 5 hours ago. Felt a bit dizzy earlier too after the run.
That can't be normal I'm guessing.
Wouldn't be great, any improvement at all? Have you been sick recently?


Irish indoors on RTE2 at 3 if anyone is interested. From new Athlone track, looks like a quality facility.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 16, 2014, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 10:15:22 AM
Fair play magpie. I remember you saying a few months ago you didn't think you'd break 1hr for 10k but you're right on course to do that with your 8k time.

I went out this morning for first time in 2 weeks and struggled through a 5k. Would not going out for a few weeks really have that much of a effect on you? I had done a few 18k a few weeks ago and was barely able finish the 5 today.

It's always tougher after a break but it should come back to you quick enough once you get into the routine again. I've been much the same myself, very irregular running this last while and nothing during week. The Saturdays have been a hard slog.

Going to get back regular and push the distance out. The senior team in the club where doing running on the track today, so joined them today. Good tight session all speed work and left some if the younger lads trailing behind. When they finished up with two circuits of core work I did suffer though!!

Just get back at it LL and you'll be back to your mark in no time. It's like running a motor after the car has been parked up for a while, just takes a few run ours to clean the pipes. Maybe slow down and not worry about doing the pace you were doing for a run or two.
My heart has been beating really fast since I got back which is nearly 5 hours ago. Felt a bit dizzy earlier too after the run.
That can't be normal I'm guessing.

Get it checked out. The dizziness itself is concerning. Does not sound normal and I m guessing it hasn t happen you before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Haven't been sick no. Dizziness didn't last long but the heart is still beating a little fast but not as bad as it was. It was beating very fast nearly to the point it was hurting.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Haven't been sick no. Dizziness didn't last long but the heart is still beating a little fast but not as bad as it was. It was beating very fast nearly to the point it was hurting.
As Moy said, no harm getting it looked at by the doc. Just to be safe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 16, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Haven't been sick no. Dizziness didn't last long but the heart is still beating a little fast but not as bad as it was. It was beating very fast nearly to the point it was hurting.

Is it irregular?

I think you should check it out today.

A doctor/runner friend of mine once told a group of us that dizziness during exercise could be an indicator of a problem. Not trying to alarm you, and you sound concerned, but not wise to leave it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 16, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
No harm getting looked, better safe than sorry. You could have something coming on that you don't know about yet eg cold, flu, viral infection and the body already fighting it, the stress of the run will empty the body.

The dizziness could also be caused by dehydration? Lack of sugar?

I went for a run one morning a good while back, done about 1km or so warm up and we were meeting a few other lads for hill runs. We were first there, I felt uneasy and leaned against a gate and next I know, I'm waking up on my back and the brother is leaning over me shouting. Turned out to be nothing but always worth looking into these.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Thanks lads I might go see Doc tomorrow.I'm one for leaving it to see how I feel later even though I know that's stupid! It was more light headed than full out dizzy.
As I said I didn't feel great whilst running either and really struggled to finish but was too stubborn to stop.
I know if I really want to do this Marathon I really should go checked out before I start training for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Thanks lads I might go see Doc tomorrow.I'm one for leaving it to see how I feel later even though I know that's stupid! It was more light headed than full out dizzy.
As I said I didn't feel great whilst running either and really struggled to finish but was too stubborn to stop.
I know if I really want to do this Marathon I really should go checked out before I start training for it.

Always worrying when something out of the norm happens, I would get the light headiness but it's down to sprinting the last part of the run. As someone has mentioned irregular heart beat causes the things you've mentioned so would get it checked just in case
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Thanks lads I might go see Doc tomorrow.I'm one for leaving it to see how I feel later even though I know that's stupid! It was more light headed than full out dizzy.
As I said I didn't feel great whilst running either and really struggled to finish but was too stubborn to stop.
I know if I really want to do this Marathon I really should go checked out before I start training for it.

This happened in one of my earlier attempts with C25K. I performed well below what I had been doing, felt dizzy and low on energy.

I went to the doc. She suspected it was merely dehydration.

I stopped running for a while and it never came back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Thanks lads I might go see Doc tomorrow.I'm one for leaving it to see how I feel later even though I know that's stupid! It was more light headed than full out dizzy.


I did my first spin class this wk, finished the class, got off the bike, then got really light headed and queasy - had to go and sit down, nearly blacked out. I hadn't eaten a bite all day though and prob only had 2 cups of coffee all day. Definite dehydration and lack of food!

I went for a run today, planned on 8k, knew there was a hill (of about 100m) that I hate about the 7k mark, so I ended up running on and doing an extra 3k, probably longer hills too, just to avoid it. I suppose it was a win-win. At least I know I will be able to struggle through that Downpatrick 10k next month.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2014, 03:07:10 PM
Thanks lads I might go see Doc tomorrow.I'm one for leaving it to see how I feel later even though I know that's stupid! It was more light headed than full out dizzy.


I did my first spin class this wk, finished the class, got off the bike, then got really light headed and queasy - had to go and sit down, nearly blacked out. I hadn't eaten a bite all day though and prob only had 2 cups of coffee all day. Definite dehydration and lack of food!

I went for a run today, planned on 8k, knew there was a hill (of about 100m) that I hate about the 7k mark, so I ended up running on and doing an extra 3k, probably longer hills too, just to avoid it. I suppose it was a win-win. At least I know I will be able to struggle through that Downpatrick 10k next month.

You doing the Jimmy ten then Rois? Doing it also and looking forward to it, Yeah spin can leave you like that if you haven't eaten beforehand, plus if you knocked your pan it during it then you should feel fecked afters!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
Yes, think so MR2 - haven't run 10k since Lisburn last June! The description here of the big hill at the start is somewhat offputting but I guess better that it's at the start...
Mr Rois-to-be's friend lives in Downpatrick so has us roped into doing it.

Spin was def a great workout, sweated so much. I just need to make sure I have some sugar in me and plenty of water. I plan on putting a bit more into it tomorrow, was just getting used to increasing resistance while cycling and remembering not to bounce on the pedals!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
Yes, think so MR2 - haven't run 10k since Lisburn last June! The description here of the big hill at the start is somewhat offputting but I guess better that it's at the start...
Mr Rois-to-be's friend lives in Downpatrick so has us roped into doing it.

Spin was def a great workout, sweated so much. I just need to make sure I have some sugar in me and plenty of water. I plan on putting a bit more into it tomorrow, was just getting used to increasing resistance while cycling and remembering not to bounce on the pedals!

That's key lol. Where is your classes
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Started at a place near Derriaghy, classes only, called Pure Class Fitness, because I'm living over in Dunmurry now. Part of the pre-marriage compromise!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Started at a place near Derriaghy, classes only, called Pure Class Fitness, because I'm living over in Dunmurry now. Part of the pre-marriage compromise!

Halfway point!! Very good, I in the other hand just moved into the street where she was brought up!! No compromise but in fairness I aint complaining, the Falls aint what it used to be......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 18, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
A tasty 8 miles this morning in an hour flat! Came home all a buzz and signed up for the Cara 10mile and Omagh half marathon. Should I have waited until the adrenalin wore off??  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 18, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: CD on February 18, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
A tasty 8 miles this morning in an hour flat! Came home all a buzz and signed up for the Cara 10mile and Omagh half marathon. Should I have waited until the adrenalin wore off??  ;)
No way - it's a brilliant feeling when a run goes well!

Mr Rois-to-be is training for his first marathon and he only runs once a week - he's going flat out at circuit classes twice a week and feeling really good. Did 16 miles in 2hrs 8 mins on Sat. Doesn't sound like great prep but he's happy enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on February 18, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
thinking of doing the Omagh half marathon myself but need to get more miles in.  i ran 8 mile last night in 80 minutes, how many miles would i need to be running before i take on a half marathon?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 18, 2014, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
thinking of doing the Omagh half marathon myself but need to get more miles in.  i ran 8 mile last night in 80 minutes, how many miles would i need to be running before i take on a half marathon?
It's only another 5 miles I'd say you would do it now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
hopefully, but would like to get a few 10 milers done first
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 18, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
hopefully, but would like to get a few 10 milers done first

Try to get the distance or maybe a little bit more would be my advice. I remember having a terrible last 2 miles in my first 1/2.
I d only got to 10 or 11 in training and people said that would get me around. It would have if I was sensible and knew then what I know now, but against better judgement we do ratchet it up when its a race. My advice is to get the distance into your legs first.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 18, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
I went out again tonight after my struggles on Sunday.
Felt much better and flew through a quick 5k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
people tell me if you can 10 you can do it but i rather have done 13 so i know i can do it.  i find trying to convince your head that you can do it  more important than convincing your legs. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 18, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Any other runner on here suffer from haemochromatosis?

I had a venesection done yesterday ( pint of blood drained) and struggled during and after run tonight. It was fast - but not that fast - and I was dropped by the group.

Because my haemoglobin levels are supposed to be able to hold up with this condition my performance in theory is not supposed to be affected by a section. I m not so sure as I ve struggled after sections before. Can t find any info online anywhere. Anybody know anything?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 18, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
people tell me if you can 10 you can do it but i rather have done 13 so i know i can do it.  i find trying to convince your head that you can do it  more important than convincing your legs.

That may well be so Gerry but in my experience if your legs really pack-in there s not a bloody thing your head can do about it! not even if you were Sigmund Freud. Get the distance done. Equally people who want to do 10ks comfortably should be running well over the distance regularly in training, 7/8 miles with an odd comfortable 10 thrown in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2014, 10:34:34 PM
gonna have to get off my ass  and do some exercise, after watching Patsy forbes on run grandad run, i come to the conclusion that a 72 yr old man woudl destroy me in sprint, woudltn be so bad but i got 33yrs on him and was one of the fastest lads to come out of my school, how times change.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 18, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 18, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
people tell me if you can 10 you can do it but i rather have done 13 so i know i can do it.  i find trying to convince your head that you can do it  more important than convincing your legs.

That may well be so Gerry but in my experience if your legs really pack-in there s not a bloody thing your head can do about it! not even if you were Sigmund Freud. Get the distance done. Equally people who want to do 10ks comfortably should be running well over the distance regularly in training, 7/8 miles with an odd comfortable 10 thrown in.

i presume this logic applies to anyone trying to improve their 5k time? Do some 6, 7 or 8k runs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
Yes. The aerobic benefit will help your time... Bigger distances harder to go over as the tiredness you get from the distance outweighs the benefit so not as applicable to a half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 18, 2014, 10:50:10 PM
Correct muppet.

Haven't come acorss it myself moy so not in a position to help sadly. Would you have run the day after before? Can imagine losing  a pint would have some affect on performance in the short term..

Am going to the gears these last few weeks.....last week entailed.

Monday - 11 miles - 5.45am steady @7.20 average
Tuesday 14.5 miles at @6.55  mile average
Wednesday - 5 miles easy
Thursday - 5.45am 3 mile tempo @6.10 pace, 11 x 300m hill repeats followed by 3 mile tempo @6.20 ( nearly puked)
Friday - Gym, stretching, core
Saturday - 21 miles, mile 12.5 to 18 at @6.35 pace......
Sunday - OFF!

Feeling in good shape, 9 weeks to Boston yesterday, 7 weeks more hard training with a 2 week taper. Just need to stay well and injury free and could turn in a decent performance!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
What's your target pace in marathon?? That's a lot of miles and a lot of "quality"!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 18, 2014, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
What's your target pace in marathon?? That's a lot of miles and a lot of "quality"!
I'll know where I'm at after Carlingford to be honest, if I get close to 80mins for the half....6.30-6.35 would be ideal.
Depending what corral i'm put in...hoping for coral 1 so will get out early with fist 5,000 runners...Corral 2 is 20,000 so can be quite slow going from what I heard.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
You've a good bit of time left too so if you're up to 21 already you're motoring. Think carlingford course is decent so i'm sure you'll fly round it. Should probably place well too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 18, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 18, 2014, 10:50:10 PM
Correct muppet.

Haven't come acorss it myself moy so not in a position to help sadly. Would you have run the day after before? Can imagine losing  a pint would have some affect on performance in the short term..
Am going to the gears these last few weeks.....last week entailed.

Monday - 11 miles - 5.45am steady @7.20 average
Tuesday 14.5 miles at @6.55  mile average
Wednesday - 5 miles easy
Thursday - 5.45am 3 mile tempo @6.10 pace, 11 x 300m hill repeats followed by 3 mile tempo @6.20 ( nearly puked)
Friday - Gym, stretching, core
Saturday - 21 miles, mile 12.5 to 18 at @6.35 pace......
Sunday - OFF!

Feeling in good shape, 9 weeks to Boston yesterday, 7 weeks more hard training with a 2 week taper. Just need to stay well and injury free and could turn in a decent performance!

Yes I have and I always felt I struggled. But the medics reckon that it shouldn t happen. Also well restless and agitated after the run, rather than the usual buzz.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 18, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
You're basically doing the opposite of blood doping Moy there so I can see how it wouldn't make you feel hectic...give it a day or 2 and see how you are post run.

Few more to do Tommy, 22 planned for this Saturday and then another 18x2.  Will try a few marathon pace miles for last 3-4 miles of those runs to let the legs know what they are hopefully in for.
Will just see how it goes in Carlingford, cheers for the heads up re the course,haven't even researched it at all, going to train hard next week as per the training plan so won't be annoyed if don't run that well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LeoMc on February 21, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
people tell me if you can 10 you can do it but i rather have done 13 so i know i can do it.  i find trying to convince your head that you can do it  more important than convincing your legs.

Unless they have changed the route you are heading out the Cookstown road at that point. I did something similar to you and had been running 9's and 10's thinking I would be grand but that long slow drag up past TC autos near did for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 21, 2014, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 21, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 18, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
people tell me if you can 10 you can do it but i rather have done 13 so i know i can do it.  i find trying to convince your head that you can do it  more important than convincing your legs.

Unless they have changed the route you are heading out the Cookstown road at that point. I did something similar to you and had been running 9's and 10's thinking I would be grand but that long slow drag up past TC autos near did for me.

Same here (only for Dublin half), max I ran was 11m and really wish I'd just done the full thing as I struggled between 10 and 12. 

Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on February 21, 2014, 03:24:41 PM
I am doing the omagh cbs 10k tomorrow all being well Leo.   The road past tc autos looks flat until you run or cycle up it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 21, 2014, 07:27:06 PM
Lidl have a range of running gear in their stores this week.
Picked up a few pairs of non blister running socks today.
Only €2.99 for 2 pairs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
Was up to 11 mile last weekend. Went out today aiming for 12 and totally misjudged it - ended up doing just over 14. Struggled over the last mile or so but delighted to get up to that distance. Averaged 8 mins 20 secs for the run so well within the 4 hour pace for the marathon in May. Really enjoying it all!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
Was up to 11 mile last weekend. Went out today aiming for 12 and totally misjudged it - ended up doing just over 14. Struggled over the last mile or so but delighted to get up to that distance. Averaged 8 mins 20 secs for the run so well within the 4 hour pace for the marathon in May. Really enjoying it all!

Good stuff, were you lucky enough to miss the bad weather? Are you properly warming down afterwards and stretching? And make sure you buy one of those rollers, they are great for rubbing out those aches.

Did 3 mile run today and yesterday, yesterdays was done in twenty minutes  and today's was a gradient of 6 on the treadmill, was tough, will do my 10k run on Sunday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
Was up to 11 mile last weekend. Went out today aiming for 12 and totally misjudged it - ended up doing just over 14. Struggled over the last mile or so but delighted to get up to that distance. Averaged 8 mins 20 secs for the run so well within the 4 hour pace for the marathon in May. Really enjoying it all!

Good stuff, were you lucky enough to miss the bad weather? Are you properly warming down afterwards and stretching? And make sure you buy one of those rollers, they are great for rubbing out those aches.

Did 3 mile run today and yesterday, yesterdays was done in twenty minutes  and today's was a gradient of 6 on the treadmill, was tough, will do my 10k run on Sunday

Yeah, missed the worst of it. Came in the towpath from Jordanstown to Belfast and there was a lot of wind but missed all the rain.

I'd need to be a bit better at the stretching but I did do a bit. I'm fair and sore at the minute but should be ready for a few mile on Sunday or Monday.

3 mile in 20 mins is good going - near the 20 min 5k then!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 21, 2014, 08:46:25 PM
Was up to 11 mile last weekend. Went out today aiming for 12 and totally misjudged it - ended up doing just over 14. Struggled over the last mile or so but delighted to get up to that distance. Averaged 8 mins 20 secs for the run so well within the 4 hour pace for the marathon in May. Really enjoying it all!

Good stuff, were you lucky enough to miss the bad weather? Are you properly warming down afterwards and stretching? And make sure you buy one of those rollers, they are great for rubbing out those aches.

Did 3 mile run today and yesterday, yesterdays was done in twenty minutes  and today's was a gradient of 6 on the treadmill, was tough, will do my 10k run on Sunday

Yeah, missed the worst of it. Came in the towpath from Jordanstown to Belfast and there was a lot of wind but missed all the rain.

I'd need to be a bit better at the stretching but I did do a bit. I'm fair and sore at the minute but should be ready for a few mile on Sunday or Monday.

3 mile in 20 mins is good going - near the 20 min 5k then!!

Nearly, very doable, just waiting on a the right Parkrun to hit it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 21, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
MR2, I'll be at Waterworks in the morn...though prob a bit windy for it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 21, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
MR2, I'll be at Waterworks in the morn...though prob a bit windy for it tomorrow.

I'm looking to do the Victoria one for a change, heard it's flater!! 20.44 is my best at Waterworks. I've a couple of classes on Sat mornings I do at the gym which clash!! But prep for Downpatrick will be a few Waterworks ones
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 22, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
I did my fastest parkrun in 12 months this morn after not having visited for a while. The spin class must be helping. Very sore legs now though just below my calves. I had planned on doing a spin class after but that turned out to be a bit optimistic for me at this stage.

Yes also heard Victoria is flatter but then it doesn't have the downhill either...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 21, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
MR2, I'll be at Waterworks in the morn...though prob a bit windy for it tomorrow.

I'm looking to do the Victoria one for a change, heard it's flater!! 20.44 is my best at Waterworks. I've a couple of classes on Sat mornings I do at the gym which clash!! But prep for Downpatrick will be a few Waterworks ones

Victoria park parkrun is currently at an alternative location due to work in victoria. The alternate is not flat...

Ormeau the flattest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 22, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 21, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
MR2, I'll be at Waterworks in the morn...though prob a bit windy for it tomorrow.

I'm looking to do the Victoria one for a change, heard it's flater!! 20.44 is my best at Waterworks. I've a couple of classes on Sat mornings I do at the gym which clash!! But prep for Downpatrick will be a few Waterworks ones

Victoria park parkrun is currently at an alternative location due to work in victoria. The alternate is not flat...

Ormeau the flattest.

I like the Queens run - nice challenging trail and the facilities are good - changing and showers etc. Not the fastest but definitely a good run. I was desperate this morning all the same! Great conditions for a change and I died! Not enough sleep around here at the mo. Looking forward to the Cara 10mile next week!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 22, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
I did my fastest parkrun in 12 months this morn after not having visited for a while. The spin class must be helping. Very sore legs now though just below my calves. I had planned on doing a spin class after but that turned out to be a bit optimistic for me at this stage.

Yes also heard Victoria is flatter but then it doesn't have the downhill either...

Get the Roller on the calf Rois, helps big time and well done today

Quote from: CD on February 22, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 21, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
MR2, I'll be at Waterworks in the morn...though prob a bit windy for it tomorrow.

I'm looking to do the Victoria one for a change, heard it's flater!! 20.44 is my best at Waterworks. I've a couple of classes on Sat mornings I do at the gym which clash!! But prep for Downpatrick will be a few Waterworks ones

Victoria park parkrun is currently at an alternative location due to work in victoria. The alternate is not flat...

Ormeau the flattest.

I like the Queens run - nice challenging trail and the facilities are good - changing and showers etc. Not the fastest but definitely a good run. I was desperate this morning all the same! Great conditions for a change and I died! Not enough sleep around here at the mo. Looking forward to the Cara 10mile next week!

I haerd the queens one is good, must give it a try also
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on February 22, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
done the omagh cbs 10k in 54 minutes this morning, happy to run a mile in under 9 minutes. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: gerry on February 22, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
done the omagh cbs 10k in 54 minutes this morning, happy to run a mile in under 9 minutes.

Did my 10K route today, just under 46mins, fierce head wind in parts, up hill (typically) ffs but happy enough, getting there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 23, 2014, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: gerry on February 22, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
done the omagh cbs 10k in 54 minutes this morning, happy to run a mile in under 9 minutes.

Did my 10K route today, just under 46mins, fierce head wind in parts, up hill (typically) ffs but happy enough, getting there

Good running in that weather MR2. I hate running in the wind!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: CD on February 23, 2014, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: gerry on February 22, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
done the omagh cbs 10k in 54 minutes this morning, happy to run a mile in under 9 minutes.

Did my 10K route today, just under 46mins, fierce head wind in parts, up hill (typically) ffs but happy enough, getting there

Good running in that weather MR2. I hate running in the wind!

Wasn't goint to head out, especially after the feed of Guiness I had yesterday during the Ireland game!! Nothing beats reaching the door knowing it's done, and the route was exactly 10k so that's me sorted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 23, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Picked it up this last week/ten days and ran a 5km in Dundalk yesterday. Was a pancake flat route, happy to finish in 19.53 for it and probably had another bit in tank but set out to break 20mins and stuck to it. Nice 5miles this morning and slowly getting back in the swings if things.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 23, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Picked it up this last week/ten days and ran a 5km in Dundalk yesterday. Was a pancake flat route, happy to finish in 19.53 for it and probably had another bit in tank but set out to break 20mins and stuck to it. Nice 5miles this morning and slowly getting back in the swings if things.

I was going to do the toepath near me today and break (try) my 20min 5k target and jog back, but will pick a park run for it. Going to give the legs a session on the roller now!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 24, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.
See you there Seanie. I'll be the one on the respirator!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 25, 2014, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: CD on February 24, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.
See you there Seanie. I'll be the one on the respirator!!

If the 4k I ran at lunchtime is any indicator I'll be fighting you for that respirator!!! I suppose it was a bit windy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on February 26, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
Don't really post much in here but read it almost everyday! If nothing else it's good to see others' successes and failure and it gives me some help!  Just thought I'd give a bit of an update about how I'm getting on with my first marathon (and first serious bit of running ever)!  Just in the middle of week 7 of a 16 week training program and it's going great.  Ran 4 miles on Monday and 6 miles yesterday afternoon and felt brilliant.  Didn't do anything at all last week and went out on Saturday and died after 3 miles so it was big relief to feel good during and after the last two runs.  Another 4 miles sometime before the weekend then we've a big charity run on Sunday from Ballycastle to Cushendall (15 miles).  Going to try and do the whole thing and focus on bringing the pace down a lot - 6 miles yesterday was at 8 minutes per mile which I know isn't realistic for longer runs.  Managed 12.35 miles a couple of weekends ago and it was 8:43 minutes per mile but that's probably still too fast?

Using an app on my phone called RunKeeper and it's great to try and keep the right pace.  Wee man tells me in my ear every five minutes what pace I'm running so it's a good reminder whether to speed up/slow down, although I'm still too competitive and hate when he tells me I'm slower than yesterday!

I think this is where it's really going to get tough with the longer runs during the week added in with training with the club.  Today's supposed to be a 'rest day' but we've training tonight! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on February 26, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
Don't really post much in here but read it almost everyday! If nothing else it's good to see others' successes and failure and it gives me some help!  Just thought I'd give a bit of an update about how I'm getting on with my first marathon (and first serious bit of running ever)!  Just in the middle of week 7 of a 16 week training program and it's going great.  Ran 4 miles on Monday and 6 miles yesterday afternoon and felt brilliant.  Didn't do anything at all last week and went out on Saturday and died after 3 miles so it was big relief to feel good during and after the last two runs.  Another 4 miles sometime before the weekend then we've a big charity run on Sunday from Ballycastle to Cushendall (15 miles).  Going to try and do the whole thing and focus on bringing the pace down a lot - 6 miles yesterday was at 8 minutes per mile which I know isn't realistic for longer runs.  Managed 12.35 miles a couple of weekends ago and it was 8:43 minutes per mile but that's probably still too fast?

Using an app on my phone called RunKeeper and it's great to try and keep the right pace.  Wee man tells me in my ear every five minutes what pace I'm running so it's a good reminder whether to speed up/slow down, although I'm still too competitive and hate when he tells me I'm slower than yesterday!

I think this is where it's really going to get tough with the longer runs during the week added in with training with the club.  Today's supposed to be a 'rest day' but we've training tonight!

That's the killer, If training 2/3 a week with club and running every other day to allow the rest you need to look at your timetable and fix it around your club training as that won't be as flexible as going out for a run. Your legs need rest to.

It's a toughy. I find (coming from a gaa background, competitiveness) setting a pace difficult, always too quick out of the blocks and go through a period of the run a lot slower, It's only when I look at the Garmin for my target pace that I realise I'm slower.

Is the marathon clashing with a fixture? (just checked) Think there are games on the 21st April and 10th May so you may be lucky enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
The problem coming from a GAA background is that every bit of training you have ever done before is flat out... It's very hard getting into the disciplined mentality of going slow to improve fitness etc. and switching the competitive head off is also tough.

I ran here and there while playing - it is just a very different set of muscles etc. Most I got to was 8 I think but I wasn't doing training plans or the like. If you're young enough and are looking to get round you should have no probs though.

Runkeeper is a great job according to a lot of people.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on February 27, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.

At the last minute decided to give this a rattle.  Not in the greatest form at the minute so was scared off the 10 mile.  At my best I can break 50mins but nowhere near that sort of shape. Looking at 52-53mins.  Any weather forecast for Bundoran on Sat??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 27, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 27, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.

At the last minute decided to give this a rattle.  Not in the greatest form at the minute so was scared off the 10 mile.  At my best I can break 50mins but nowhere near that sort of shape. Looking at 52-53mins.  Any weather forecast for Bundoran on Sat??
Going to be cold - 5 degrees max. Wind is the killer on that run. Going to be 8mph southerly. Not bad
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 27, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: CD on February 27, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 27, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.

At the last minute decided to give this a rattle.  Not in the greatest form at the minute so was scared off the 10 mile.  At my best I can break 50mins but nowhere near that sort of shape. Looking at 52-53mins.  Any weather forecast for Bundoran on Sat??
Going to be cold - 5 degrees max. Wind is the killer on that run. Going to be 8mph southerly. Not bad

That's what I've been worried about but the forecast is for light enough breeze so shouldn't be the worst. Fingers crossed that it is accurate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 27, 2014, 06:57:28 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 27, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: CD on February 27, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 27, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 24, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Just entered the 10k in Bundoran on Saturday. No going back now. Had planned to do 5.5 to 6 miles last Thursday but misjudged the distance and only did 5.2 miles but I suppose it's good enough. Looking forward to it if a little nervous. A few handy runs this week to keep me ticking over and hopefully the weather won't be too bad on Saturday.

At the last minute decided to give this a rattle.  Not in the greatest form at the minute so was scared off the 10 mile.  At my best I can break 50mins but nowhere near that sort of shape. Looking at 52-53mins.  Any weather forecast for Bundoran on Sat??
Going to be cold - 5 degrees max. Wind is the killer on that run. Going to be 8mph southerly. Not bad

That's what I've been worried about but the forecast is for light enough breeze so shouldn't be the worst. Fingers crossed that it is accurate.

Me too - the stretch up the new road and then across Rougey at the end are tough into a headwind I'll tell ya! Head down material. At the minute it looks like it'll be fairly calm. Running with two brothers and a sister at the weekend. Major competition there! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 27, 2014, 06:57:53 PM
sure just run it in reverse and keep the wind in your back!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 27, 2014, 07:06:01 PM












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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2014, 08:46:44 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 27, 2014, 07:06:01 PM












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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 28, 2014, 09:12:49 AM












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Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 28, 2014, 09:42:50 AM












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Might have a go at my second park run tomorrow and have my long run on Sunday - up to 15 miles now. Have a lot of miles to get through in March but start to ease off then in mid-April before the marathon at the start of May
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 28, 2014, 10:37:37 AM













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Very poor month for me. Thought I was having a heart attack after one run! so took it easy after that.
Hope to pick it back up in March
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 28, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
Will tot up the miles later for Feb.

A good month, feeling in good shape. Had an eyeballs out run last Saturday morning down west. 18 miles at 7.30 per mile pace then 3 miles at 6.10 per mile pace and 1 mile warm down. 22 in total.

Idea is to shock the legs and let them know what it's like to be running at that pace with miles in the tank. It's an easy method to apply for anyone thinking of doing marathon,1/2 marathon training. Basically run much slower than your predicted race pace for most of run and then faster/at your race pace for last 2,3,4 miles. Obviously wouldn't advise it with every long run though.

Best of luck to everyone racing in Bundoran tomorrow,weather looks like it'll be cold and not much wind, perfect conditions.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 28, 2014, 10:37:37 AM













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Very poor month for me. Thought I was having a heart attack after one run! so took it easy after that.
Hope to pick it back up in March

It's K's we're measuring this in ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 28, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
Dreading tomorrow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 28, 2014, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 28, 2014, 10:37:37 AM













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Very poor month for me. Thought I was having a heart attack after one run! so took it easy after that.
Hope to pick it back up in March
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 28, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 28, 2014, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 28, 2014, 10:37:37 AM













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Very poor month for me. Thought I was having a heart attack after one run! so took it easy after that.
Hope to pick it back up in March
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 28, 2014, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 28, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
Dreading tomorrow

Me too but looking forward to it big style also. Have the worst toothache of my life this evening. It was so bad an hour ago I had given up hope of running tomorrow but seems to have settled a bit. Please God its ok through the night and in the morning.

Good luck to those going in Carlingford as well as Bundoran.

Muppet - good work, you're back on the horse.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2014, 12:16:39 PM












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Still only on 3 times a week but getting there!

Good luck to you guys running this weekend. Remember to enjoy it and don't start too fast or you'll not enjoy the second half!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 01, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
Longest run today for Paris on 6th April. 16 9 min miles! Wasn't comfortable at all near the end though, it's going to be a struggle. The injury I had with my knee basically put me out for 2 months so I am way behind schedule. Goals of achieving under 4 hours have changed to just finishing the bloody thing. Going to try 18 next week if my knee is ok and then wind down before the big day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 01, 2014, 03:50:47 PM
Perfect conditions in Carlingford today. Great memories provoked of childhood and family connections in this beautiful part of Ireland. Fair play to volunteers and organisers- lovely course with plenty of hills , wonderful views of the Lough and the Mournes and a mile or so along the beach. Presume that was Rob ( and Dave) Kearney's former school where the Kearney 15 signs were up. Along with two other fifty something GAA veterans we were delighted to break 100 mins- by 90 seconds- but post-run talk of  Belfast, Dublin, Cork and Donegal forthcoming from all sides afterwards a bit premature. Hope that's the end of success for the wee county today- heading back to Pairc Esler in two hours.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 01, 2014, 04:16:27 PM
Did the runamuck today. It was grand a bit of craic but not really my thing to be honest.
A lot of waiting around waiting for plebs to jump into a muddy river. I mean if you sign up for a runamuck you know you're gonna have to get wet and dirty so just jump the fcuk in and don't be holding everyone up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 01, 2014, 07:01:54 PM
Absolutely loved the Cara run today. Definitely one of the most professional events I've participated in and a nice run. Many thanks for the lovely couple around mile 4 (at which point i was buckled with stomach cramps) who allowed me to dash inside their home and use their bathroom in the most literal of sense. I went on to recover and was just 1 minute slower than last year. Brilliant considering I was on the can for three minutes and had two really uncomfortable miles. Finished strong.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 01, 2014, 08:12:28 PM
Never made it up to carlingford, wedding yesterday went a bit too well and I was on no state to run this morning. Few of the lads went up and said it was a great day.

Massive run by ballinaman man who third overall in the half. Obscene time of 1.16 or something. Fair play lad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 01, 2014, 09:35:42 PM
Serious running!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 01, 2014, 09:40:47 PM
Really enjoyed the Cara 10k today. Toothache settled down overnight and was buzzing come race time. Got it done in 58 and change as expected so am happy enough for a first 10k. Suffered a bit towards the end but the thickness took over. Fantastically well run event, huge credit to the organisers.

That's the first goal of the year chalked off. The feeling at the finish was unreal. A bit of satisfaction tonight but will refocus for bigger challenges I now feel are within my capabilities.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 02, 2014, 01:22:48 AM
Serious running from Ballinaman today, he talked about 1.20 on the way up but that was waaaaay ahead of anything he has talked about. Savage display, sound fella
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 02, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
Great stuff lads, Jim, LL, CD, Dubh driocht and Seanie. Fair play and keep her lit. Nice one Seanie, the first under the belt and there will be plenty more to come when ya getting bitten by the racing bug, makes putting in the training worthwhile.

Cheers lads...and Bingo, not the first time the word obscene has been used in reference to me and probably not the last..haha.

Delighted with the time and pretty shocked too, hard to judge what type of shape you are in until you race, been over 6 months since last 1. Class place for a run, first time up that neck of the woods and it's a beautiful spot. Similar to CD, i needed a slash from about 4 miles onwards! I would have stopped the watch and stopped but was in a battle with a guy and we were chasing down 3rd place lad. 2nd five miles were quicker than the first and the last 3.1`miles were quicker again so finished in good nick.

As nice as it was, yesterday was only a Semi Final type victory, can't pat myself one the back too much and take it too easy now. 7 weeks on Monday is the big one!Took 5 mins 40 seconds off PB which was done in 2012 so that's on goal chalked off this year!

Savage stuff from Mayo4Sam, not only ran a serious time but then proceeded to cycle back to Dublin with a mate. Unreal and sound lad!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
I'll have some of what you're having bm ;-) did think you'd be pretty high up there. Great running. Out of interest are you sticking to that running technique course??

Great running everyone else. Great feeling of satisfaction finishing a race and knowing you've done well. Itching to get back to the racing now with all this running but need to get fit!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 02, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
I'll have some of what you're having bm ;-) did think you'd be pretty high up there. Great running. Out of interest are you sticking to that running technique course??

Great running everyone else. Great feeling of satisfaction finishing a race and knowing you've done well. Itching to get back to the racing now with all this running but need to get fit!!
I definitely checked myself a few times yesterday to keep the form going well,  made sure to use the arms and not have the torso rotating all over the place wasting energy. The drills to properly use the hamstrings for a better stride pattern helped too! There was a guy in the top 7 or 8 at the start was all over the place with his arms and body so had a feeling he was going to drop off the pace.

We're talking about http://www.kinetic-revolution.com/sixweekprogram/ if anyone is interested. Haven't followed it 100% but some nice nuggets of info that every runner can apply and well worth the few bob in my opinion!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2014, 10:50:59 AM
It does make you think. Sometimes other people's form can be deceptive. In a 5  miler last year raced a guy like that thinking i'd chin him but it took me fecking ages to break him and wrecked me too in the end!

Have done the cadence tests and running more with calves. Posture next - definitely something which i hope will help me.

5 minutes 40 seconds is a serious pb!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 02, 2014, 11:07:18 AM
We only ended up making it to Drogheda, f**king head wind the whole way so after 60k we were done, still a good session.

Delighted with 39.10 yesterday for the 10k, well ahead of where I thought I was
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 02, 2014, 11:11:54 AM
Aye - Ballinaman - that is fantastic running. I could only dream of hitting that kind of form! Loving the running at the moment. Bizarrely, I have fewer old niggles and aches and pains when I run every other day. As soon as I leave it 4/5 days knee, hip and back play up. Anyone else like this?

I've also discovered I'm a bit of a coward on the longer runs - I'm constantly holding a wee bit back thinking about the miles that lie ahead and then finishing with gas in the tank. Need to just break through that psychological barrier.

Yesterday's run was a bit of a mess in terms of my bowel giving me grief - got home to discover my wife had a stomach bug so it must have been a bit of that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2014, 01:11:53 PM
Looking forward to Downpatrick now in 2 weeks, all this chat about the race is making me a wee bit nervous now!! Must wee before I run!! Pace myself so that I have left nothing behind!! And beat my target of 43mins!!!

Rain nearly stopped now, about to head out!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 02, 2014, 01:26:34 PM
Ballinaman has taken this thread to a different level. James Horan should bottle that mental strength and crossing the line in September will be a piece of piss.

I know we're all different but picking up on MR2's point; is there a consensus on water intake during the longer distances ? In our recovery run this morning all three of us had different views on water and refuelling and the risks of stopping for a slash.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 02, 2014, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 01, 2014, 09:40:47 PM
Really enjoyed the Cara 10k today. Toothache settled down overnight and was buzzing come race time. Got it done in 58 and change as expected so am happy enough for a first 10k. Suffered a bit towards the end but the thickness took over. Fantastically well run event, huge credit to the organisers.

That's the first goal of the year chalked off. The feeling at the finish was unreal. A bit of satisfaction tonight but will refocus for bigger challenges I now feel are within my capabilities.

Good man Seanie, only February and you will have to revise your goals. I like the line about the thickness. It comes down to that a lot on my runs, I will need it to get anywhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
Thickness is an attribute very much required for a distance runner- has served me well many times!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2014, 05:20:12 PM
Went for run, in the rain there, last half mile my calf went on the hill heading home!!! Kept going as I was close to my time and it was pissing down ffs!! Still managed to finish 10k for 45 minutes which was quicker than last week, so I've a bloody injury now to heal before the Downpatrick, so roller out now and hopefully it will be grand
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 02, 2014, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 01, 2014, 09:40:47 PM
Really enjoyed the Cara 10k today. Toothache settled down overnight and was buzzing come race time. Got it done in 58 and change as expected so am happy enough for a first 10k. Suffered a bit towards the end but the thickness took over. Fantastically well run event, huge credit to the organisers.

That's the first goal of the year chalked off. The feeling at the finish was unreal. A bit of satisfaction tonight but will refocus for bigger challenges I now feel are within my capabilities.

Good man Seanie, only February and you will have to revise your goals. I like the line about the thickness. It comes down to that a lot on my runs, I will need it to get anywhere.

Thanks Muppet and all who passed on goodwill. As for my goals - the Warriors Run is a tough, tough run. Much harder than a 10k. I spoke to a guy I know who is a proper runner and he left me under no illusions as to how tough it was and he was after doing 10 miles in 62 minutes! Will aim to improve my 10k time through the year as I get prepared for August 23rd.

A bit stiff now, must invest in one of those foam rollers!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 02, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
Finished Runamuck yesterday, not a patch on Hell and back regarding toughness, it was a good stretch of the legs though, did the 10K in 1.09... top 20 out of 5000, am delighted...Roll on Connemara.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 02, 2014, 11:47:57 PM
With regard to "chip timing" - I have done two races with chip timing and both times it has been wrong. Now obviously it's only a matter of seconds in it but I wonder why this happens? Is it anything I'm not doing? Both times it just seems I've been given the race time I crossed the line at for both net and gross which I know is not right from the people's times I crossed the start line with. As I say it's not a biggie, just curious.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 03, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 02, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
Finished Runamuck yesterday, not a patch on Hell and back regarding toughness, it was a good stretch of the legs though, did the 10K in 1.09... top 20 out of 5000, am delighted...Roll on Connemara.....
Didn't see you. What group did you set off in, think we were 21 or something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2014, 08:59:35 AM
Sometimes when there are no starting mats you'll get a chip but it will effectively give you "gun time".

If you have starting and finishing mats you should get different chip and gun times(the chip ones should be right). Increasingly less races have start mats though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 03, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
Done the Bohermeen half marathons yesterday and my net time is 40 seconds slower than my gross time. Can anyone explain this? Surely my net time should be more if taking into consideration how long it took me to get to the starting point? Doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 03, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2014, 08:59:35 AM
Sometimes when there are no starting mats you'll get a chip but it will effectively give you "gun time".

If you have starting and finishing mats you should get different chip and gun times(the chip ones should be right). Increasingly less races have start mats though.

There were mats at start and finish annd most runners have different "Gross" and "Net" times. Ah well - makes it easier to beat my PB the next day!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 03, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 03, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
Done the Bohermeen half marathons yesterday and my net time is 40 seconds slower than my gross time. Can anyone explain this? Surely my net time should be more if taking into consideration how long it took me to get to the starting point? Doesn't make sense to me.

I would understand your "Net" time is the actual time it took you from Start line to Finish line. Gross time is baiscally from race start to you crossing the finish line. Therefore it took you 40 seconds to get to the start line after the gun.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 03, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 02, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
Finished Runamuck yesterday, not a patch on Hell and back regarding toughness, it was a good stretch of the legs though, did the 10K in 1.09... top 20 out of 5000, am delighted...Roll on Connemara.....
Didn't see you. What group did you set off in, think we were 21 or something.

We were in the second wave at 11.15, it was good, no hold ups at the obstacles and the ground was reasonable, felt really strong on the second lap but one of two of obstacles we a bit choked up, so it was a case of "bulling through"....was home again at 1, so it was handy enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 10:17:41 AM
Think I'll push to the front for my race, otherwise I'll never meet my target!! 40 seconds is a lot lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 10:22:43 AM
Anyone got any tips for pre-race nerves, For the first 5-7k i really struggle, cant find any rhythm, cant get my breath...then around 8k, its like a switch is flicked and i am grand and usually finish quite strong.....it is something that i am really conscious of now, it feels a bit like a panic attack .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 03, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
Re mats at the start, from organising a couple of races we've been told that the start mats were unreliable at times and that they could miss runners going over them due to the volume of runners all going through at one time. The provider said it was something they've incountered in the past and they can't seem to correct it.

Other providers I spoke to said it wasn't a problem with their system.

We used the first one without the starting mat as they were more flexible in other areas and we had a very wide road to start the race on, so got people over the line fairly quick.

The blackwater 10km in Monaghan got no chip times from their run in 2011 due to a problem with the mats they used.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 03, 2014, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 03, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 03, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
Done the Bohermeen half marathons yesterday and my net time is 40 seconds slower than my gross time. Can anyone explain this? Surely my net time should be more if taking into consideration how long it took me to get to the starting point? Doesn't make sense to me.

I would understand your "Net" time is the actual time it took you from Start line to Finish line. Gross time is baiscally from race start to you crossing the finish line. Therefore it took you 40 seconds to get to the start line after the gun.

Yeah but I was placed according to my gross time. Here is the link for results: http://www.precisiontiming.net/result/racetimer?v=%252Fen%252Frace%252Fshow%252F1684%253Flayout%253Dprecision_timing

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 03, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 10:22:43 AM
Anyone got any tips for pre-race nerves, For the first 5-7k i really struggle, cant find any rhythm, cant get my breath...then around 8k, its like a switch is flicked and i am grand and usually finish quite strong.....it is something that i am really conscious of now, it feels a bit like a panic attack .

Nothing to help you with on that one. I'd be a fairly calm person naturally and nerves would rarely bother me.

The brother used to have trouble sleeping and got nervous in days before a race but he grew out of it when he did more of them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 03, 2014, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 10:22:43 AM
Anyone got any tips for pre-race nerves, For the first 5-7k i really struggle, cant find any rhythm, cant get my breath...then around 8k, its like a switch is flicked and i am grand and usually finish quite strong.....it is something that i am really conscious of now, it feels a bit like a panic attack .

Experience I think is probably the answer, the more you do the more you know that you are well prepared.
If you are doing a big race for the year then its worthwhile doing a few smaller races to get used to it.

I had a similar experience in Carlingford on Saturday where I began to panic and it is just a matter of relaxing and getting back to thinking about exactly what you are doing, ur form, keeping your pace and not worrying about everything else
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
Is it nerves though or the fact that you're running a lot faster and you just need to adapt?

Are your splits better after 5-7k??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
Is it nerves though or the fact that you're running a lot faster and you just need to adapt?

Are your splits better after 5-7k??

My splits would be quite similar and i have ran quite a few races at this stage, take the race on Saturday, the first half was 2 mins difference between the first and second half (first being faster). My normal 10 K is about 45 mins, 1.09 for the one on Saturday wasnt too excessive and by the end i felt i had some left in the tank.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 03, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 03, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
Is it nerves though or the fact that you're running a lot faster and you just need to adapt?

Are your splits better after 5-7k??

My splits would be quite similar and i have ran quite a few races at this stage, take the race on Saturday, the first half was 2 mins difference between the first and second half (first being faster). My normal 10 K is about 45 mins, 1.09 for the one on Saturday wasnt too excessive and by the end i felt i had some left in the tank.
Mightn't be nerves at all, could be just a matter of getting your "second wind".

Whats your normal heart rate? Is it very low generally? Mine would be very low, first time I was getting a once over the doctor took it twice and asked me to come back another day to do it again. When i did the V2O test, it showed up the same, the bloke doing test said he thought I was a chancer, as it went from very low to high as soon as I started.

It did cause some uncomfort for me but as I lost weight the body wasn't working as hard and it got easier, times improved and I didn't have to work as hard. I've been slack recently and probably have a bit of weight on, felt myself working harder than before as I'd been doing mostly shorter runs with more pace to them.

Did a 10km run out just under 5min pace yesterday and it was a joy compared to some other decent runs. Kick in the arse really and I'm going to puch myself back into shape.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 09:38:31 AM
Entered the Titanic Quarter 10K race, Sun the 6th April. Any takers for this one?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 04, 2014, 08:22:14 PM
Not doing the Titanic MR2  but there is a 10K in Ormeau Park this Sunday for a worthy cause- Addiction NI. Nice flat course through the park/along the Lagan embankment - good for anyone in Belfast this weekend.
http://addictionni.com/info/10k/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 04, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 09:38:31 AM
Entered the Titanic Quarter 10K race, Sun the 6th April. Any takers for this one?

Think I will MR2. Going to do Jimmy's 10k on the 16th and then I'll register after that all being well. Had to pull out of Omagh half due to youngsters christening. Not too keen on the Ormeau runs coming up as they are 3 1/2 laps. Just can't deal with laps!!  :-\

Ran a nice steady 10k after work there - around 49mins. Felt really comfortable with that pace so reckon I can knock a few minutes off it with a good tailwind

Hoping to do 13.5k on Thursday all being well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 08:42:55 PM
Quote from: CD on March 04, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 09:38:31 AM
Entered the Titanic Quarter 10K race, Sun the 6th April. Any takers for this one?

Think I will MR2. Going to do Jimmy's 10k on the 16th and then I'll register after that all being well. Had to pull out of Omagh half due to youngsters christening. Not too keen on the Ormeau runs coming up as they are 3 1/2 laps. Just can't deal with laps!!  :-\

Ran a nice steady 10k after work there - around 49mins. Felt really comfortable with that pace so reckon I can knock a few minutes off it with a good tailwind

Hoping to do 13.5k on Thursday all being well.

I'm getting a comfortable 45 on a hilly route, doing Jimmy 10K also but calf went on Sunday, working on it but the race starts on a hill I hear so need to work on my stretching more and no running till the race
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on March 09, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
out this morning for first time in 8months cause of illness.  felt great to get back on the road.  hope i can build from this. only did two miles and it hurt, but felt great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 09, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on March 09, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
out this morning for first time in 8months cause of illness.  felt great to get back on the road.  hope i can build from this. only did two miles and it hurt, but felt great.

Good man yerself! If it didn't hurt a bit it couldn't be good for ye! Good luck!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 09, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
 Q: Is it harder to run on a treadmill or does my running App flatter me when I run outside? My distance and pace always seem slower on the treadmill and it can be hard to run a distance that was comfortable outdoors days earlier. Anyone else find this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 09, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 09, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
Q: Is it harder to run on a treadmill or does my running App flatter me when I run outside? My distance and pace always seem slower on the treadmill and it can be hard to run a distance that was comfortable outdoors days earlier. Anyone else find this?

Can't give you a definitive answer because I just hate running on treadmills so I don't do it. I'd be interested in what others say on this. I'd find it tougher because it's way more boring than being out on the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
I've always found it harder on the treadmill, I've always ran faster over the same distance outside than in the gym.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 09, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Set a new parkrun PB yesterday! Happy days. Did a lot of miles last week and was tired so didn't expect that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 09, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
18 mile run yesterday and it was a complete struggle from the 12 mile mark. I will definitely have to walk at some point in the marathon. I have just run out of time to get another few long runs in I think. The marathon is on the 6th of April, what sort of mileage should I be doing between now and then? I had a a knee injuries for a few months there so don't want to get injured again in the last few weeks. Out for a 40 mile spin on the bike today and it helped loosen the legs up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 09, 2014, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 09, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
18 mile run yesterday and it was a complete struggle from the 12 mile mark. I will definitely have to walk at some point in the marathon. I have just run out of time to get another few long runs in I think. The marathon is on the 6th of April, what sort of mileage should I be doing between now and then? I had a a knee injuries for a few months there so don't want to get injured again in the last few weeks. Out for a 40 mile spin on the bike today and it helped loosen the legs up.

Be nice if you could do a twenty next week. 20 is a massive psychological milestone. After that you're down to the last two weeks when you should be running 50% of current distance. Then you should be tapering down to a max of 8-10mile run in the last week and a 10k or so three days before. The cycling will be great for the stamina!
Best of luck with the injury!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:33:31 PM
Not happy with this calf!! Race is Sunday haven't run for week, refereed yesterday and could feel it still tender. Will just do it at normal pace and get ready for Titanic Quarter race instead at a quicker pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 10, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Well done CD! I haven't had that text in a year and a half.

MR, you can tail me on Sun as I try to run 10k under 55 mins  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 10, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Well done CD! I haven't had that text in a year and a half.

MR, you can tail me on Sun as I try to run 10k under 55 mins  ;D
Make sure you wear those tight shorts he likes. "What sore calf?!"  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 10, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Well done CD! I haven't had that text in a year and a half.

MR, you can tail me on Sun as I try to run 10k under 55 mins  ;D

Bitch  :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Did a super run last Friday, beating my pb on a local 7k loop by a considerable amount and generally feeling strong. Then ran a crap 4k on Monday and have been in terrible form since. Got out today at lunch and ran the same 4k a full minute quicker and all is good with the world again!

Wouldn't mind if I had been on the piss at the weekend but didn't have a beer at all (almost forget what it tastes like to tell the truth)! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 09, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
Q: Is it harder to run on a treadmill or does my running App flatter me when I run outside? My distance and pace always seem slower on the treadmill and it can be hard to run a distance that was comfortable outdoors days earlier. Anyone else find this?
Studies show that you have to run at a 1% incline on treadmill to replicate outdoor conditions, you don't have wind and also physically driving yourself forward when your foot hits the ground is done by the belt moving. So if anything it should be easier on the treadmill for you, no harm though to be more suited to outdoor running

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.
Can be any number of reasons, sleep, food intake, hydration could been a little different that would affect how you feel, I'd say and sometimes ya, legs just don't have it, wouldn't worry at all about it Seanie.

Quote from: JimStynes on March 09, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
18 mile run yesterday and it was a complete struggle from the 12 mile mark. I will definitely have to walk at some point in the marathon. I have just run out of time to get another few long runs in I think. The marathon is on the 6th of April, what sort of mileage should I be doing between now and then? I had a a knee injuries for a few months there so don't want to get injured again in the last few weeks. Out for a 40 mile spin on the bike today and it helped loosen the legs up.
You doing Paris Jim? Heard it's class, fair play.
3 weeks out should be the last long one.
The key with the taper is to decrease the load (mileage) but to maintain the intensity....ie, reduce fatigue in the legs but still maintain your predicted marathon pace through some of the miles in the 2 weeks leading up to the marathon to maintain current fitness levels.
So, say the Tuesday before...10 minute warm up....1 mile at predicted marathon pace...5 min easy....1 mile predicted marathon pace, 10 min warm down...job done. You could do 2-4 marathon pace miles with 5 min easy in between depending on how you were feeling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 12, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
Good to see everyone still at it.

Seanie - that really good run may have taken more out of you than you thought. I've said it on here before but on my last marathon cycle I learned now effective a nice slow recovery run can be. I know you've done the 10km and up the distance recently, maybe it just caught up with up. Or as Ballinaman says any number of reasons could have affected you.

Have been trying to up the miles myself and get back into a routine and only way I've been able to do that is early morning runs - 7am. Set out Saturday to do 10miles, haven't done 10miles since just before Xmas. It was a windy morning and it was a struggle. Tight going but finished them out and was happy enough at 8min/mile pace. Going to do the Omagh half at end of the month and then have a good run at the Newry half after that.

Really need the races to target the mind and motivate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 12, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
Good to see everyone still at it.
Seanie - that really good run may have taken more out of you than you thought. .
Spot on, heard that it takes 1 day per mile raced to recover fully. Think it's about right, I went to do an interval session the Wednesday after the half marathon on the previous Saturday. Packed it it halfway through the reps,legs were fooked. No point doing damage and wasn't going to gain anything.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on March 13, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
Just over 7 weeks to go until the Belfast marathon now and everything was going great. Did 15 miles a fortnight ago and felt good. Went out to do 14 on Saturday past and only managed 11 as my left Achilles was a bit tight. Rested since Saturday until today icing it every evening and it didn't feel bad at all. No different than normal. Just went out this evening to try a bit and got half a mile before I had to turn back. Feels tighter than ever. Panicing big time now about getting long miles in through the next few weeks. Advice really welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 13, 2014, 05:32:45 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on March 13, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
Just over 7 weeks to go until the Belfast marathon now and everything was going great. Did 15 miles a fortnight ago and felt good. Went out to do 14 on Saturday past and only managed 11 as my left Achilles was a bit tight. Rested since Saturday until today icing it every evening and it didn't feel bad at all. No different than normal. Just went out this evening to try a bit and got half a mile before I had to turn back. Feels tighter than ever. Panicing big time now about getting long miles in through the next few weeks. Advice really welcome.

My right achilles gets sore and tender to touch if I run with only one day off, so I am interested in hearing how to deal with this as well. In my case it is a 25 year old injury that flares up, but it never stopped me doing anything before. It is getting close now though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 13, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Did a super run last Friday, beating my pb on a local 7k loop by a considerable amount and generally feeling strong. Then ran a crap 4k on Monday and have been in terrible form since. Got out today at lunch and ran the same 4k a full minute quicker and all is good with the world again!

Wouldn't mind if I had been on the piss at the weekend but didn't have a beer at all (almost forget what it tastes like to tell the truth)! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.

I had the same type of run last night - I hated every bloody centimetre of the 9k.  I was going round thinking "I'm not doing that 10k on Sunday now" but kept going and pace wasn't as bad as I thought.  But I just didn't enjoy it.  I think that happens the odd time. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Did a super run last Friday, beating my pb on a local 7k loop by a considerable amount and generally feeling strong. Then ran a crap 4k on Monday and have been in terrible form since. Got out today at lunch and ran the same 4k a full minute quicker and all is good with the world again!

Wouldn't mind if I had been on the piss at the weekend but didn't have a beer at all (almost forget what it tastes like to tell the truth)! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.

I had the same type of run last night - I hated every bloody centimetre of the 9k.  I was going round thinking "I'm not doing that 10k on Sunday now" but kept going and pace wasn't as bad as I thought.  But I just didn't enjoy it.  I think that happens the odd time.

So you'll be checking out my butt then on the way round he he
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 13, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Did a super run last Friday, beating my pb on a local 7k loop by a considerable amount and generally feeling strong. Then ran a crap 4k on Monday and have been in terrible form since. Got out today at lunch and ran the same 4k a full minute quicker and all is good with the world again!

Wouldn't mind if I had been on the piss at the weekend but didn't have a beer at all (almost forget what it tastes like to tell the truth)! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.

I had the same type of run last night - I hated every bloody centimetre of the 9k.  I was going round thinking "I'm not doing that 10k on Sunday now" but kept going and pace wasn't as bad as I thought.  But I just didn't enjoy it.  I think that happens the odd time.

So you'll be checking out my butt then on the way round he he

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_K-A_vcQoWHI/TH4G-z1lGyI/AAAAAAAAABQ/NGKbCF-O7So/s1600/pjun159l.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 13, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Did a super run last Friday, beating my pb on a local 7k loop by a considerable amount and generally feeling strong. Then ran a crap 4k on Monday and have been in terrible form since. Got out today at lunch and ran the same 4k a full minute quicker and all is good with the world again!

Wouldn't mind if I had been on the piss at the weekend but didn't have a beer at all (almost forget what it tastes like to tell the truth)! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.

I had the same type of run last night - I hated every bloody centimetre of the 9k.  I was going round thinking "I'm not doing that 10k on Sunday now" but kept going and pace wasn't as bad as I thought.  But I just didn't enjoy it.  I think that happens the odd time.

So you'll be checking out my butt then on the way round he he

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_K-A_vcQoWHI/TH4G-z1lGyI/AAAAAAAAABQ/NGKbCF-O7So/s1600/pjun159l.jpg)

Buns of steel!! lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 13, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
Haha - indeed MR.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
Haha - indeed MR.

Going to try a wee run tomorrow on the incline to check out calf, haven't run on the road or treadmill since the following Sunday, though I did play a hurling games for the reserves and refereed straight afterwards on Sunday there, ground was soft but still felt the ache  :(

Looking forward to it, be down early for wee warm up run,  friend driving down as I'm in Belfast on Sat for a 50th birthday party which will carry on to late!! Ah well
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 13, 2014, 09:57:52 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 12, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 09, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
Q: Is it harder to run on a treadmill or does my running App flatter me when I run outside? My distance and pace always seem slower on the treadmill and it can be hard to run a distance that was comfortable outdoors days earlier. Anyone else find this?
Studies show that you have to run at a 1% incline on treadmill to replicate outdoor conditions, you don't have wind and also physically driving yourself forward when your foot hits the ground is done by the belt moving. So if anything it should be easier on the treadmill for you, no harm though to be more suited to outdoor running

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 12, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
! I guess sometimes you just can't explain it.
Can be any number of reasons, sleep, food intake, hydration could been a little different that would affect how you feel, I'd say and sometimes ya, legs just don't have it, wouldn't worry at all about it Seanie.

Quote from: JimStynes on March 09, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
18 mile run yesterday and it was a complete struggle from the 12 mile mark. I will definitely have to walk at some point in the marathon. I have just run out of time to get another few long runs in I think. The marathon is on the 6th of April, what sort of mileage should I be doing between now and then? I had a a knee injuries for a few months there so don't want to get injured again in the last few weeks. Out for a 40 mile spin on the bike today and it helped loosen the legs up.
You doing Paris Jim? Heard it's class, fair play.
3 weeks out should be the last long one.
The key with the taper is to decrease the load (mileage) but to maintain the intensity....ie, reduce fatigue in the legs but still maintain your predicted marathon pace through some of the miles in the 2 weeks leading up to the marathon to maintain current fitness levels.
So, say the Tuesday before...10 minute warm up....1 mile at predicted marathon pace...5 min easy....1 mile predicted marathon pace, 10 min warm down...job done. You could do 2-4 marathon pace miles with 5 min easy in between depending on how you were feeling.

Yes, I am indeed! Looking forward to the occasion but not the running part as i don't feel prepared and having been trying to catch up with training I've missed due to injury! I am planning on doing 20 mile on monday but my usual running partner can't go so I am going to have to make an attempt at doing this by myself. It will be a long morning. My target of under 4 hours is well out the window now. I'll be happy to just finish now ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 14, 2014, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on March 13, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
Just over 7 weeks to go until the Belfast marathon now and everything was going great. Did 15 miles a fortnight ago and felt good. Went out to do 14 on Saturday past and only managed 11 as my left Achilles was a bit tight. Rested since Saturday until today icing it every evening and it didn't feel bad at all. No different than normal. Just went out this evening to try a bit and got half a mile before I had to turn back. Feels tighter than ever. Panicing big time now about getting long miles in through the next few weeks. Advice really welcome.
Medical advice without seeing what you are like is not the best idea but here are a few tips that will help. I would recommend seeing a chartered physiotherapist though.
1.Gel heal raises for your shoes until race day, will give the achilles some slack. You can pick them up in most pharmacies.

2.Foam roll the calves big time, don't be too nice to yourself and get stuck in. Make sure foot is relaxed and work up and down and side to side 9pm to 3pm direction through the muscle belly.

3. K-Tape the achilles. Not much evidence behind this stuff yet but definitely doesn't do any harm, tried it on myself for a few days/runs and found it grand, bit more secure and even helps psychologically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVXIyt2Ae8w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

4. If you are at a desk during the day, keep your heels flat on the ground...lots of people sit with their feet crossed underneath them and toes into the ground...creates hours of stress on the achilles without you doing anything.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 14, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
Haha - indeed MR.

Going to try a wee run tomorrow on the incline to check out calf, haven't run on the road or treadmill since the following Sunday, though I did play a hurling games for the reserves and refereed straight afterwards on Sunday there, ground was soft but still felt the ache  :(

Looking forward to it, be down early for wee warm up run,  friend driving down as I'm in Belfast on Sat for a 50th birthday party which will carry on to late!! Ah well

Did the calf hold up MR2?

Still set for Downpatrick?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 15, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
5k in Marley Park this morning, 18.48, delighted, 30 secs off my PB. It was a windy day and the legs felt tired so hoping there's a good more left in them.
New goal will have to be sub 18
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2014, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: CD on March 14, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 13, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
Haha - indeed MR.

Going to try a wee run tomorrow on the incline to check out calf, haven't run on the road or treadmill since the following Sunday, though I did play a hurling games for the reserves and refereed straight afterwards on Sunday there, ground was soft but still felt the ache  :(

Looking forward to it, be down early for wee warm up run,  friend driving down as I'm in Belfast on Sat for a 50th birthday party which will carry on to late!! Ah well

Did the calf hold up MR2?

Still set for Downpatrick?

All set, have been doing other cardio stuff last 2 weeks and have done all the calf stretching exercises going so, did a 5 minute climb on the treadmill yesterday set the gradient at 6 and ran at 7.5 miles ph. Was grand and no ill effects. Fingers crossed, only to beat Rois anyway so easy enough ll
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 15, 2014, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 15, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
5k in Marley Park this morning, 18.48, delighted, 30 secs off my PB. It was a windy day and the legs felt tired so hoping there's a good more left in them.
New goal will have to be sub 18
Quality stuff, flying. Fair fcuks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 15, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 15, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
5k in Marley Park this morning, 18.48, delighted, 30 secs off my PB. It was a windy day and the legs felt tired so hoping there's a good more left in them.
New goal will have to be sub 18
Brilliant!

MR, bring your jet powered runners, I'll be off like a flash of lightening...up that hill...

Brother in Law is after getting another PB in waterworks this morn - he's gone from 27-something about two years ago to 21.24 today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 15, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 15, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
5k in Marley Park this morning, 18.48, delighted, 30 secs off my PB. It was a windy day and the legs felt tired so hoping there's a good more left in them.
New goal will have to be sub 18
Brilliant!

MR, bring your jet powered runners, I'll be off like a flash of lightening...up that hill...

Brother in Law is after getting another PB in waterworks this morn - he's gone from 27-something about two years ago to 21.24 today.

Great days craic in Downpatrick, challenging enough course and was well supported along the town.  Managed to finish it in 44 minutes which I'm chuffed with considering my calf injury which flared up around 5K but was ok enough to see it through.

What a feed at the end, I ate my body weight in choclate and sandwiches afterwards

Next race is the Titanic Quarter 10k race!!

How did you go today Rois? I was bit neverous for some reason but settled well after about a mile, started off way to quick
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on March 16, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
Great race, atmosphere and crowd were brilliant. Finished in 44:01, a PB but raging I didn't break 44! Some feed right nuff MR2, now for the pints!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2014, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: No1 on March 16, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
Great race, atmosphere and crowd were brilliant. Finished in 44:01, a PB but raging I didn't break 44! Some feed right nuff MR2, now for the pints!!

I didn't realise where the finish was, I thought it would be up near the start area, was wonder why people were speeding up coming into the town and I didn't see the 9k marker, but no complaints would have only managed to take seconds off it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 16, 2014, 03:57:44 PM
Just home from a stag doo in edinburgh. great preparation for a marathon, I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 16, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
Got a PB in 53.44 - happy enough but was the same as you re:finish, didn't expect it to be so soon am could have taken another few secs off. Started too fast so slowed myself down, last 2 k were a wee but slower. But a well organised race, I'm glad I did it. Might sign up for TQ now and try to beat that.

Mr Rois-to-be had chip time of 42.23 so he was happy with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2014, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 16, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
Got a PB in 53.44 - happy enough but was the same as you re:finish, didn't expect it to be so soon am could have taken another few secs off. Started too fast so slowed myself down, last 2 k were a wee but slower. But a well organised race, I'm glad I did it. Might sign up for TQ now and try to beat that.

Mr Rois-to-be had chip time of 42.23 so he was happy with that.

Ah brill well done, I signed up for the Titanic also, flatter course also so could get quicker.

I noticed after a while in races I slow down in parts with no reason, as in the last part of the race I have quicker times. I started off way to quick also, but averaged out 4:28/km pace
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 16, 2014, 08:03:05 PM
I missed all the goodies at the end - we went to a friend's house in Downpatrick. Raging!

Well done all - these races are good craic! Well - afterwards anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I got up to just over 17 mile there at the weekend - felt like I could've went on for another couple of mile too so feeling confident about getting the distance ok for the marathon in Belfast. Had a good time for me as well at 2 hours 20 minutes - 8 minutes 14 per mile.

Having said that, my calves felt really tight for the rest of the weekend. I had something similar the previous weekend and thought it might be food related so loaded up on pasta on Friday night before running on Saturday morning. I had a banana on Saturday morning before heading out and had a snickers at about 9 miles. Had a bottle of water with me too. I made a point of doing a bit more stretching this weekend and spent 20 minutes foam rolling the calves but the tightness was still there (though was nowhere near as bad as the previous weekend). Is this common or is there something I can do to avoid it? I'm not sure whether it's my diet causing it or is it a symptom of running these types of distances for the first time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I got up to just over 17 mile there at the weekend - felt like I could've went on for another couple of mile too so feeling confident about getting the distance ok for the marathon in Belfast. Had a good time for me as well at 2 hours 20 minutes - 8 minutes 14 per mile.

Having said that, my calves felt really tight for the rest of the weekend. I had something similar the previous weekend and thought it might be food related so loaded up on pasta on Friday night before running on Saturday morning. I had a banana on Saturday morning before heading out and had a snickers at about 9 miles. Had a bottle of water with me too. I made a point of doing a bit more stretching this weekend and spent 20 minutes foam rolling the calves but the tightness was still there (though was nowhere near as bad as the previous weekend). Is this common or is there something I can do to avoid it? I'm not sure whether it's my diet causing it or is it a symptom of running these types of distances for the first time.

I'm getting a bit of that at the minute, well mainly in one calf and its under the calf, was told its from running up hills, which makes a lot of sense with the run I do. Takes a few days to go down even after the stretching. How bad is your diet? I doubt that would be the main problem causing it

Do you use the strava app for your runs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
I would guess that the only way it would be diet would be if it were cramp related and it was a salt thing?? (e.g. drink a sports drink as opposed to water and you'd be less likely to cramp)

Stepping up miles steps up the impact on the body and can take a bit of getting used to.  I would recommend for a while anyway icing the calves. I guess also be vigilant that trainers can run down and that will hit your calves first. The more miles you do the more you will wear down the trainers.(500 is a good rule of thumb)

Races are good craic afterwards - it's the bit in the middle that's no fun!

Well done to all who ran at the weekend. Good wee group running on here now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I got up to just over 17 mile there at the weekend - felt like I could've went on for another couple of mile too so feeling confident about getting the distance ok for the marathon in Belfast. Had a good time for me as well at 2 hours 20 minutes - 8 minutes 14 per mile.

Having said that, my calves felt really tight for the rest of the weekend. I had something similar the previous weekend and thought it might be food related so loaded up on pasta on Friday night before running on Saturday morning. I had a banana on Saturday morning before heading out and had a snickers at about 9 miles. Had a bottle of water with me too. I made a point of doing a bit more stretching this weekend and spent 20 minutes foam rolling the calves but the tightness was still there (though was nowhere near as bad as the previous weekend). Is this common or is there something I can do to avoid it? I'm not sure whether it's my diet causing it or is it a symptom of running these types of distances for the first time.

I'm getting a bit of that at the minute, well mainly in one calf and its under the calf, was told its from running up hills, which makes a lot of sense with the run I do. Takes a few days to go down even after the stretching. How bad is your diet? I doubt that would be the main problem causing it

Do you use the strava app for your runs?

I've a lot of hills on my run too. I think you're out Jordanstown way so you should know it well enough - Antrim Road up to Glengormley, down past Carnmoney cemetry to Whiteabbey and into Monkstown, down to the shore road and back into Belfast on the tow path. Then I have Fortwilliam back up to the Antrim road and up to the North Circular bringing me up to 15 miles. There's a fair few hills there and the worst ones are the last 3 or 4 miles. I don't use Strava - I use run keeper though - 957 ft elevation on Saturday past.

My diet isn't bad - I'm not eating junk or burgers and chips or anything. I meant more along the lines of not getting enough high energy food on board.

My trainers should be fine too - I've ran about 240 miles in them so far so they should hopefully see me through the marathon ok.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I got up to just over 17 mile there at the weekend - felt like I could've went on for another couple of mile too so feeling confident about getting the distance ok for the marathon in Belfast. Had a good time for me as well at 2 hours 20 minutes - 8 minutes 14 per mile.

Having said that, my calves felt really tight for the rest of the weekend. I had something similar the previous weekend and thought it might be food related so loaded up on pasta on Friday night before running on Saturday morning. I had a banana on Saturday morning before heading out and had a snickers at about 9 miles. Had a bottle of water with me too. I made a point of doing a bit more stretching this weekend and spent 20 minutes foam rolling the calves but the tightness was still there (though was nowhere near as bad as the previous weekend). Is this common or is there something I can do to avoid it? I'm not sure whether it's my diet causing it or is it a symptom of running these types of distances for the first time.
I'd say it's more mileage related than diet. Spot on by what tommy and MR2 said in regards to trainers and uphill running. It's like running on flat tyres if the trainers are well worn and uphill running means more of a forefoot strike which increases stress on the calves. 30-40 second long sustained stretches and foam rolling will help.

10km race yesterday morning, 35.40...happy considering horrendous course and did a 15 on Saturday with last 10 miles progressively faster each mile. A sprint finish to nick 1st didn't help my calves though yesterday I tells ya!! Another tune up 8km race on April 6 and should be good to go on April 21st
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
Did you win the Balbriggan 10km?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
I would guess that the only way it would be diet would be if it were cramp related and it was a salt thing?? (e.g. drink a sports drink as opposed to water and you'd be less likely to cramp)

Stepping up miles steps up the impact on the body and can take a bit of getting used to.  I would recommend for a while anyway icing the calves. I guess also be vigilant that trainers can run down and that will hit your calves first. The more miles you do the more you will wear down the trainers.(500 is a good rule of thumb)

Races are good craic afterwards - it's the bit in the middle that's no fun!

Well done to all who ran at the weekend. Good wee group running on here now.

That's the bit when you are running that needs a lift, but in most races its the start and end that only have people giving encouargement!!

Well marshalled event yesterday though

Quote from: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on March 18, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
I got up to just over 17 mile there at the weekend - felt like I could've went on for another couple of mile too so feeling confident about getting the distance ok for the marathon in Belfast. Had a good time for me as well at 2 hours 20 minutes - 8 minutes 14 per mile.

Having said that, my calves felt really tight for the rest of the weekend. I had something similar the previous weekend and thought it might be food related so loaded up on pasta on Friday night before running on Saturday morning. I had a banana on Saturday morning before heading out and had a snickers at about 9 miles. Had a bottle of water with me too. I made a point of doing a bit more stretching this weekend and spent 20 minutes foam rolling the calves but the tightness was still there (though was nowhere near as bad as the previous weekend). Is this common or is there something I can do to avoid it? I'm not sure whether it's my diet causing it or is it a symptom of running these types of distances for the first time.
I'd say it's more mileage related than diet. Spot on by what tommy and MR2 said in regards to trainers and uphill running. It's like running on flat tyres if the trainers are well worn and uphill running means more of a forefoot strike which increases stress on the calves. 30-40 second long sustained stretches and foam rolling will help.

10km race yesterday morning, 35.40...happy considering horrendous course and did a 15 on Saturday with last 10 miles progressively faster each mile. A sprint finish to nick 1st didn't help my calves though yesterday I tells ya!! Another tune up 8km race on April 6 and should be good to go on April 21st

That's brill, 35mins is mental the fastest at Downpatrick on Sunday completed it in 31 minutes!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 04:01:16 PM
East Down are a really good wee club and always put on a good event there. Check out their online videos too. One of their guys videos the whole thing and they have it up on a youtube channel.

You're in some form BM.

Hope to be past the 20 this week then 2 more weeks and start tempoing. I'd a real bollocks of an injury there but hopefully seeing the back of it now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
Did you win the Balbriggan 10km?
Aye, the quality was diluted a bit with the half marathon on as well, top 4 in that race would have taken me.
Bit of an odd race, was out on my own with only the motorbike ahead of me for the 1st 8km.  Found it quite hard to tune in because had no pressure coming on me and definitely took foot off the gas looking at the KM splits....

Guy came up and passed me at about 8.5km /9km, was fairly shocked because came from nowhere. Didn't let the gap go more than 10 metres and didn't panic, thought to myself he must have ran a ridiculous last 5km to catch me and could't have much left in the tank, so put the shoe down hard in the last 100m to nick it. That's what you get for coasting I suppose!

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 04:01:16 PM
You're in some form BM.

Hope to be past the 20 this week then 2 more weeks and start tempoing. I'd a real bollocks of an injury there but hopefully seeing the back of it now.
Achilles wasn't it? Absolute bollocks alright but sounds like you have managed it the right way. I had a close call with it back in January and stopped it before it set it thankfully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
Did you win the Balbriggan 10km?
Aye, the quality was diluted a bit with the half marathon on as well, top 4 in that race would have taken me.
Bit of an odd race, was out on my own with only the motorbike ahead of me for the 1st 8km.  Found it quite hard to tune in because had no pressure coming on me and definitely took foot off the gas looking at the KM splits....

Guy came up and passed me at about 8.5km /9km, was fairly shocked because came from nowhere. Didn't let the gap go more than 10 metres and didn't panic, thought to myself he must have ran a ridiculous last 5km to catch me and could't have much left in the tank, so put the shoe down hard in the last 100m to nick it. That's what you get for coasting I suppose!

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 04:01:16 PM
You're in some form BM.

Hope to be past the 20 this week then 2 more weeks and start tempoing. I'd a real bollocks of an injury there but hopefully seeing the back of it now.
Achilles wasn't it? Absolute bollocks alright but sounds like you have managed it the right way. I had a close call with it back in January and stopped it before it set it thankfully.

Ai achilles. Got new orthotics which forced me to much more mid foot landing  and the right achilles/calf hasn't liked it one bit. Have just been retraining myself to run really - the orthotics were a must really with another issue. This running lark ain't good for you sometimes!!

I'm hoping with all the rehab etc I will come out of it much faster after 2-3 solid months behind me. I think I will but we'll see what it brings. Aiming for mid - late summer racing and see where I'm at. There's a small 10 miler in July, a few 10ks and Carlingford 5k I wouldn't mind doing so will aim for them. A few good halfs in september too so plenty to aim for yet.

Always nice to win a race - have won 2 parkruns and the (mixed)marathon relay then top 10 3 or 4 other reasonable sized races but never won a proper race and would still love to!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 18, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
You'll need a new cabinet at this rate Ballinaman.

I'm sure if you send a stamped-addressed box to Sir Matt Busby Way, Manchester M16 0RA, they'd be happy to oblige
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 18, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
You'll need a new cabinet at this rate Ballinaman.

I'm sure if you send a stamped-addressed box to Sir Matt Busby Way, Manchester M16 0RA, they'd be happy to oblige
I think I might apply to be a pacemaker for this lad.....full time in the Manchester derby he'll be looking for a quick run to the airport I reckon!
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/manchester-united-1-2-tottenham-hotspur-premier-league-1st-january-2014/18579141.jpg)

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
I'm hoping with all the rehab etc I will come out of it much faster after 2-3 solid months behind me. I think I will but we'll see what it brings. Aiming for mid - late summer racing and see where I'm at. There's a small 10 miler in July, a few 10ks and Carlingford 5k I wouldn't mind doing so will aim for them. A few good halfs in september too so plenty to aim for yet.

Always nice to win a race - have won 2 parkruns and the (mixed)marathon relay then top 10 3 or 4 other reasonable sized races but never won a proper race and would still love to!!
That sounds like a solid schedule and timeframe. It's very handy to have so many races on these days so have options to when the best suit you. It's a nice feeling alright, hope to have a good few more years ahead of me, I'd be only a pup compared to lads who win these races, usually dominated by lads in mid 30's.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 18, 2014, 04:53:09 PM
All, i am looking to get a GPS watch, all i want is GPS and a stopwatch.....anyone have an experience with them....Garmin seem to be top of the tree......thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Fair play Ballinaman, thats nice to get a win. Its rare to see a sprint finish in a distance race. You were playing to the crowd by the sounds of it! Tight hilly course as well by all accounts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Fair play Ballinaman, thats nice to get a win. Its rare to see a sprint finish in a distance race. You were playing to the crowd by the sounds of it! Tight hilly course as well by all accounts.
haha...don't know about that, I was in no state to be throwing out Brolly kisses to the crowd.Ya, couple of 180 degree turns around bollards which are always tough to get rhythm back after. Had to naviagte around much of the half marathon field who started 15 mins ahead of the 10km, I was dropping O'Driscoll side steps along a narrow piece of the route!

Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 18, 2014, 04:53:09 PM
All, i am looking to get a GPS watch, all i want is GPS and a stopwatch.....anyone have an experience with them....Garmin seem to be top of the tree......thanks
I've a garmin forerunner, don't know how to use half the functions on it but does the job. It's about 4-5 years old at this stage and is grand still.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 18, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 18, 2014, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 18, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Fair play Ballinaman, thats nice to get a win. Its rare to see a sprint finish in a distance race. You were playing to the crowd by the sounds of it! Tight hilly course as well by all accounts.
haha...don't know about that, I was in no state to be throwing out Brolly kisses to the crowd.Ya, couple of 180 degree turns around bollards which are always tough to get rhythm back after. Had to naviagte around much of the half marathon field who started 15 mins ahead of the 10km, I was dropping O'Driscoll side steps along a narrow piece of the route!

Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 18, 2014, 04:53:09 PM
All, i am looking to get a GPS watch, all i want is GPS and a stopwatch.....anyone have an experience with them....Garmin seem to be top of the tree......thanks
I've a garmin forerunner, don't know how to use half the functions on it but does the job. It's about 4-5 years old at this stage and is grand still.

I got a Garmin Forerunner 210. Good job at a reasonable price. Shop around for best price online. Also use it cycling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,

Is the match in a hot country?? The sun was shinning on Sunday last but it was cold!! That's probably enough time, and better with the game first as I'm always fcuked after doing 10k. I did a half mile warm up on Sunday, included high knees and legs up at the back followed by stretching, the atmosphere on the day will also kick in and send you off flying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 19, 2014, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,

Is the match in a hot country?? The sun was shinning on Sunday last but it was cold!! That's probably enough time, and better with the game first as I'm always fcuked after doing 10k. I did a half mile warm up on Sunday, included high knees and legs up at the back followed by stretching, the atmosphere on the day will also kick in and send you off flying.

He's in Brisbane, I think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 09:20:25 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 19, 2014, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,

Is the match in a hot country?? The sun was shinning on Sunday last but it was cold!! That's probably enough time, and better with the game first as I'm always fcuked after doing 10k. I did a half mile warm up on Sunday, included high knees and legs up at the back followed by stretching, the atmosphere on the day will also kick in and send you off flying.

He's in Brisbane, I think

Fcuk that!! I wouldn't bother lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 19, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,
I'd go for some high5 zero electrolyte if you could get your hands on some. Drinking too much water the day before and day of an event can flush out eletrolytes and salts from the body.
For lunch I'd have chicken pasta carbonara or something like that, white bread and pasta would be fine because they are fast releasing carb sources....generally best to avoid but would be grand on this occasion.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
Cheers Ballinaman, aye in Brisbane, due to be 30 on Sunday. Will go with that. Too late to pull out now Milltown!  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
Cheers Ballinaman, aye in Brisbane, due to be 30 on Sunday. Will go with that. Too late to pull out now Milltown!  :)

Well good luck to ya
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 19, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
Are ye saying water isn't the best to be drinking before a run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 19, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Heard from a medical person that studied tennis players rehydration habits during the Australian Open. On average, they reached for water over those energy drinks at a ratio of 6 to 1.  Meaning the energy drinks provide useful stuff, but not all the time.  And water is good, but you need a little more.

Makes sense to me...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 19, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 19, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Heard from a medical person that studied tennis players rehydration habits during the Australian Open. On average, they reached for water over those energy drinks at a ratio of 6 to 1.  Meaning the energy drinks provide useful stuff, but not all the time.  And water is good, but you need a little more.

Makes sense to me...
Ya, that's similar to what i heard too. Sip on the energy drink the day or 2 before a race and be drinking plenty of water with each meal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 20, 2014, 03:01:19 PM
Anyone any opinion on Whey protein, i have started taking it about a month ago, a scoop once a day, it says to take between 2 and 4, where i have found it good is for recovery, the muscles don't seem to be as tired or sore after a hard training session. Is there merit in it or is it just someone marketing the waste product from Dairy processing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 20, 2014, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 20, 2014, 03:01:19 PM
Anyone any opinion on Whey protein, i have started taking it about a month ago, a scoop once a day, it says to take between 2 and 4, where i have found it good is for recovery, the muscles don't seem to be as tired or sore after a hard training session. Is there merit in it or is it just someone marketing the waste product from Dairy processing?

I was told that its usefulness is over rated and that a glass of milk will serve the same purpose, so thats what I use.
Was further happy with this when Catriona McKernan said that for recovery she took a glass of milk and took something to eat shortly after finishing her runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 20, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
I use chocolate milk, straight after the session if I can.
Eating within the hour would be more important
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
I'm wondering what a good time is for both a 10K and 12K run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 21, 2014, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
I'm wondering what a good time is for both a 10K and 12K run?
Whatever your best is is good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
I'm wondering what a good time is for both a 10K and 12K run?

The better ones are hitting 31mins 32 mins the real good ones on this site are 35 to 40 mins, the rest 45 upwards for 10K, for 12K you could add on 10 minutes more or less depending on your fitness

I've only been running a while but you can knock minutes off with every run
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
For a GAA club player what would be expected?
Also, what would intercounty players be hitting just out of interest?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
Quote from: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
For a GAA club player what would be expected?
Also, what would intercounty players be hitting just out of interest?

Had a discussion about this one time before, they wouldn't necessary be training over that distance (round a 10k route) maybe preseason but I'd imagine most IC players would be trained on the pitch and the gym mainly preseason.

I'd say a senior club player could hit 45 mins for 10K, a senior player of the late 80's early 90's would have struggled lol, with all the training we did then, pinting was the hardest discipline  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: smort on March 21, 2014, 05:00:14 PM
Is this endurance running part of collective training?? Or additional individual stuff?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
Either or to be honest.

I'm having to train on my own at the minute and I'm just wondering what sort of time I should be aiming for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
Either or to be honest.

I'm having to train on my own at the minute and I'm just wondering what sort of time I should be aiming for.

Go out do 2/3 miles but not hard see how you feel, then up it to 4 miles. I wouldn't dive in and do 10k. Have good trainers also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: qwerty123 on March 21, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
Either or to be honest.

I'm having to train on my own at the minute and I'm just wondering what sort of time I should be aiming for.

Go out do 2/3 miles but not hard see how you feel, then up it to 4 miles. I wouldn't dive in and do 10k. Have good trainers also.

Do a parkrun and see how you go at 5k. 10k isn't an easy distance at all particularly if you're not prepped for it. Running 6+ miles at a decent clip takes a fair bit of prep. Most people will blow at about 4. If you blow in a 5k then you'll need to do a lot mroe work but it's a good starting point...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 08:34:02 PM
Did the referees fitness test today, we'd done a beep test last year for the first time so we'd all a target to reach for plus the county set a target of 14.4 the ability to do league games and 15.8 I think for championship standard. Was tough enough as the ones before I got to do mine managed 17.4, I managed to pass that but was thinking it's a decent running program, do running clubs do that type of stuff for speed work or is it to short a distance?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 22, 2014, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 08:34:02 PM
Did the referees fitness test today, we'd done a beep test last year for the first time so we'd all a target to reach for plus the county set a target of 14.4 the ability to do league games and 15.8 I think for championship standard. Was tough enough as the ones before I got to do mine managed 17.4, I managed to pass that but was thinking it's a decent running program, do running clubs do that type of stuff for speed work or is it to short a distance?

Target 14.4 what? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 22, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
Knees clean fucked again with two weeks to go   :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 22, 2014, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 08:34:02 PM
Did the referees fitness test today, we'd done a beep test last year for the first time so we'd all a target to reach for plus the county set a target of 14.4 the ability to do league games and 15.8 I think for championship standard. Was tough enough as the ones before I got to do mine managed 17.4, I managed to pass that but was thinking it's a decent running program, do running clubs do that type of stuff for speed work or is it to short a distance?

Target 14.4 what?

14.4 was the grade required to referee at league level. What that means in terms of difficulty? I don't think it's hard to meet, not sure what the national referee's need to meet during the beep test 18?

Quote from: JimStynes on March 22, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
Knees clean fucked again with two weeks to go   :(

Ah that's shit!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 23, 2014, 01:03:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 22, 2014, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 08:34:02 PM
Did the referees fitness test today, we'd done a beep test last year for the first time so we'd all a target to reach for plus the county set a target of 14.4 the ability to do league games and 15.8 I think for championship standard. Was tough enough as the ones before I got to do mine managed 17.4, I managed to pass that but was thinking it's a decent running program, do running clubs do that type of stuff for speed work or is it to short a distance?

Target 14.4 what?

14.4 was the grade required to referee at league level. What that means in terms of difficulty? I don't think it's hard to meet, not sure what the national referee's need to meet during the beep test 18?

Quote from: JimStynes on March 22, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
Knees clean fucked again with two weeks to go   :(

Ah that's shit!!


Still have no idea what the 14.4 is...is it the result of some formula or combination of things?  I'd be interested in seeing how it is calculated. I presume it is not units of anything.

Think I could manage 14.4 pints in a day/night session.
Hardly on 14.4 miles in an hour running though.
14.4 minutes for the mile...

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
The test involves running continuously between two points that are 20 m apart from side to side (as I'm sure you are aware of). These runs are synchronized with a laptop software (like yesterday), which plays beeps at set intervals. As the test proceeds, the interval between each successive beep decreases, forcing the athlete to increase their speed over the course of the test, until it is impossible to keep in sync with the recording (or, in rare occasions, if the athlete completes the test).

Many people who test people using the multi-stage fitness test allow one level to beep before the person makes the line, but if the person being tested does not make the next interval then the most recent level they completed is their final score.

The recording is typically structured into 21 'levels', each of which lasts around 62 seconds. Usually, the interval of beeps is calculated as requiring a speed at the start of 8.5 km/h, increasing by 0.5 km/h with each level thereafter. The progression from one level to the next is signaled by 3 quick beeps. The highest level attained before failing to keep up is recorded as the score for that test.


                             Cumulative
Level      shuttles     Shuttles             Speed           Shuttle time            Total level time     Distance     cumulative         cumulative
                                                                                                                                                       distance            time
                                                       (km/h)            (seconds)                    (s)                    (M)             (m)             (mins and secs)
17           14                185                16.5                4.36                         61.09                  280            370                17.50


So 14 .4 is running between the 20m cones at 14.4 km/h which the Antrim county board have deemed the minimum requirement
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 23, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 19, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,
I'd go for some high5 zero electrolyte if you could get your hands on some. Drinking too much water the day before and day of an event can flush out eletrolytes and salts from the body.
For lunch I'd have chicken pasta carbonara or something like that, white bread and pasta would be fine because they are fast releasing carb sources....generally best to avoid but would be grand on this occasion.

Cheers for the advise lad, got round in 47:58, happy enough and won 1-10 to 0-5! Having a well earned beer now!

Sorry to hear that Jim, get great motivation out of the rest of you all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 11:20:11 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 23, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 19, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 19, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Looking for a bit of pre race advice, I have a match Sunday at 11 (very hot) and a 10km that evening at 5:00pm. Obviously need to get plenty of water on board between times but I'm worried about energy levels with the heat - question is; what should I eat between the game and the run to maximise replenishment?

Cheers,
I'd go for some high5 zero electrolyte if you could get your hands on some. Drinking too much water the day before and day of an event can flush out eletrolytes and salts from the body.
For lunch I'd have chicken pasta carbonara or something like that, white bread and pasta would be fine because they are fast releasing carb sources....generally best to avoid but would be grand on this occasion.

Cheers for the advise lad, got round in 47:58, happy enough and won 1-10 to 0-5! Having a well earned beer now!

Sorry to hear that Jim, get great motivation out of the rest of you all.

That's a great time well done, easy take minutes off that with a bit more running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 23, 2014, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
The test involves running continuously between two points that are 20 m apart from side to side (as I'm sure you are aware of). These runs are synchronized with a laptop software (like yesterday), which plays beeps at set intervals. As the test proceeds, the interval between each successive beep decreases, forcing the athlete to increase their speed over the course of the test, until it is impossible to keep in sync with the recording (or, in rare occasions, if the athlete completes the test).

Many people who test people using the multi-stage fitness test allow one level to beep before the person makes the line, but if the person being tested does not make the next interval then the most recent level they completed is their final score.

The recording is typically structured into 21 'levels', each of which lasts around 62 seconds. Usually, the interval of beeps is calculated as requiring a speed at the start of 8.5 km/h, increasing by 0.5 km/h with each level thereafter. The progression from one level to the next is signaled by 3 quick beeps. The highest level attained before failing to keep up is recorded as the score for that test.


                             Cumulative
Level      shuttles     Shuttles             Speed           Shuttle time            Total level time     Distance     cumulative         cumulative
                                                                                                                                                       distance            time
                                                       (km/h)            (seconds)                    (s)                    (M)             (m)             (mins and secs)
17           14                185                16.5                4.36                         61.09                  280            370                17.50


So 14 .4 is running between the 20m cones at 14.4 km/h which the Antrim county board have deemed the minimum requirement

Thanks for the info.  I truly had no idea how this thing was calculated.

Far from beep tests I was reared...I'd be from the running laps days and if you couldn't drink a pint of milk and wolf down a steak after an eternity of laps you were not fit.  Every second lap would have a length of the field sprint to get that side of things up to scratch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 25, 2014, 10:52:12 AM
God bless the bright mornings being back. Had a super 7k this morning at 6.30am in just over 38 mins which is good going for me. Had missed out on my long run at the weekend so was a bit annoyed with myself but back on track now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Anyone doing the Titanic Quarter 10K on the 6th?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on March 25, 2014, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Anyone doing the Titanic Quarter 10K on the 6th?

It isnt very appealing, havent looked fully at the route, but titanic quarter - I'm assuming its flat, open, boring, windy?

Did the 10k the time they were opening the westlink a few years ago and it was horrendous for all the above reasons, said I'd avoid similar in future!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on March 25, 2014, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Anyone doing the Titanic Quarter 10K on the 6th?

It isnt very appealing, havent looked fully at the route, but titanic quarter - I'm assuming its flat, open, boring, windy?

Did the 10k the time they were opening the westlink a few years ago and it was horrendous for all the above reasons, said I'd avoid similar in future!

Aye flat and boring, hopefully not too windy, but should have a big crowd and it's local, well for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 25, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on March 25, 2014, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Anyone doing the Titanic Quarter 10K on the 6th?

It isnt very appealing, havent looked fully at the route, but titanic quarter - I'm assuming its flat, open, boring, windy?

Did the 10k the time they were opening the westlink a few years ago and it was horrendous for all the above reasons, said I'd avoid similar in future!

Aye flat and boring, hopefully not too windy, but should have a big crowd and it's local, well for me

I'm doing that one MR. Missed out on Jimmy's as the youngster was unwell but should be good for this one. Aiming for about 47 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 25, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
I might do it. But it is incredibly boring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 25, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
I might do it. But it is incredibly boring.

CD can run along side of you sure, keep ya company ;)

Any other ones to do that should be done?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon tomorrow.

In for it myself, seems to be a fairly big one with over 3,000 registered apparently.

Nothing in great shape and running been irregular but have a few 10-12 milers under the belt the last few weekends. Will enjoy it and not worry too much about the time. PB is 1.36 for the one and only half that i've raced, don't think i'll beat that tomorrow, should be going on times last year but not to that level yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleafgael on March 28, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon tomorrow.

In for it myself, seems to be a fairly big one with over 3,000 registered apparently.

Nothing in great shape and running been irregular but have a few 10-12 milers under the belt the last few weekends. Will enjoy it and not worry too much about the time. PB is 1.36 for the one and only half that i've raced, don't think i'll beat that tomorrow, should be going on times last year but not to that level yet.

Not doing it myself, better half is. Very well organised and marshalled. Fast course as well so if your ever looking for a pb its one to consider. Leave yourself plenty of time before hand as town can be hectic enough on a Saturday. If your coming from Ballygawley direction head out the Cookstown Road and cut through Killyclogher rather than the town centre.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: oakleafgael on March 28, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon tomorrow.

In for it myself, seems to be a fairly big one with over 3,000 registered apparently.

Nothing in great shape and running been irregular but have a few 10-12 milers under the belt the last few weekends. Will enjoy it and not worry too much about the time. PB is 1.36 for the one and only half that i've raced, don't think i'll beat that tomorrow, should be going on times last year but not to that level yet.

Not doing it myself, better half is. Very well organised and marshalled. Fast course as well so if your ever looking for a pb its one to consider. Leave yourself plenty of time before hand as town can be hectic enough on a Saturday. If your coming from Ballygawley direction head out the Cookstown Road and cut through Killyclogher rather than the town centre.

Good man, cheers for that. Heard plenty of good reports on it - few of the other lads done it last year. I had hoped to have more done and go for a time but wasn't to be, will see how it goes on the day - Newry Half is the target for the PB and possible 1.29.59 run.

Will be coming from Ballygawley so good to know that. Have the packs picked up so that will save some time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Stall the Bailer on March 28, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon tomorrow.

In for it myself, seems to be a fairly big one with over 3,000 registered apparently.

Nothing in great shape and running been irregular but have a few 10-12 milers under the belt the last few weekends. Will enjoy it and not worry too much about the time. PB is 1.36 for the one and only half that i've raced, don't think i'll beat that tomorrow, should be going on times last year but not to that level yet.

Going to be doing it.
My first race. Not as much trianing as I would have liked, but will be glad to get it done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 28, 2014, 12:07:23 PM
If anyone's interested (unfortunately I won't make it) the cloud is doing a 5 mile race next week, Liatroim Fontenoys Co. Down;

Leitrim Race and Fun Run 2014 The 5 mile race and fun run will take place on Saturday 5th April Fun Run at 11am, 5 mile race at 12noon .More  details later

If anyone's interested let me know and I can give more info.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Father Jack on March 28, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon tomorrow.

In for it myself, seems to be a fairly big one with over 3,000 registered apparently.

Nothing in great shape and running been irregular but have a few 10-12 milers under the belt the last few weekends. Will enjoy it and not worry too much about the time. PB is 1.36 for the one and only half that i've raced, don't think i'll beat that tomorrow, should be going on times last year but not to that level yet.

I'm doing it too, did it last year and it is well run.

If you go for a cup of tea in the middle of the race, then get lost on the way round for a while (probably a long while), I might get close to you at the finish line!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Doing it in Lucan. I'd be worried if I went out too fast I'll burn out. Might just stick with 25 pacer for tomorrow and over summer try and get up to 20 min pacer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 28, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Doing it in Lucan. I'd be worried if I went out too fast I'll burn out. Might just stick with 25 pacer for tomorrow and over summer try and get up to 20 min pacer.
Stick with 25 group till 3km-4km and if you are feeling good, edge ahead and go for it. Chasing pack will always spur you on too.
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 28, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
I'm really impressed that you have pacers, I'd love to have one to follow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Black Card on March 28, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
I didn't think you could still get pacers.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6f/Pacers_Mints_1981_television_ad_screenshot.jpg/220px-Pacers_Mints_1981_television_ad_screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2014, 04:14:10 PM
Quote from: Father Jack on March 28, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
I'm doing it too, did it last year and it is well run.

If you go for a cup of tea in the middle of the race, then get lost on the way round for a while (probably a long while), I might get close to you at the finish line!!

Cup of tea might be needed! Best of luck.

Quote from: Stall the Bailer on March 28, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
[Going to be doing it.
My first race. Not as much trianing as I would have liked, but will be glad to get it done.

Best of luck. You'll never feel as if you have enough done, just keep to your planned pace and enjoy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 28, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
I'm really impressed that you have pacers, I'd love to have one to follow.

Follow me :o pacing around 44! Though would love to get it down to my age........ 42 :(

Calf went aghain the other night ffs!! no running till race day again
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 28, 2014, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Doing it in Lucan. I'd be worried if I went out too fast I'll burn out. Might just stick with 25 pacer for tomorrow and over summer try and get up to 20 min pacer.

It's hard to get the pace right Laoislad! I try to start fast (6.50/7min mile) then a slower one to catch my second wind and then I burst the last one if I've anything left. Some weeks I go well and come in 21.30ish, some weeks I'm 23ish and I die in the last km. Always recover quickly and feel like I have more left in the tank so reckon I can go under 21mins soon! Good luck tomorrow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 29, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Doing it in Lucan. I'd be worried if I went out too fast I'll burn out. Might just stick with 25 pacer for tomorrow and over summer try and get up to 20 min pacer.

Good man LL, my money is on you beating 25 mins handy.

I am doing training to get up to 10k but have missed a couple recently. At some stage I will go back to 5k and try to improve my time. I like the sound of the 25 minute pacer, especially if it was some stunner. That would be all the motivation I would need.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 29, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 29, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 28, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 28, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Doing my first park run tomorrow.
Haven't just done a 5k in a while as I usually run a bit further so haven't tried to beat my PB since last September when I did 25.14 so hope to beat that tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how far I come in 5k terms since then. Would love to go under 25mins.
They will have a 25min pacer so my plan is to stay with him for a lap and a half (its 2 × 2.5k laps)then try and push ahead for the last bit.
There is also a 20min pacer but I think trying to keep in with him is asking a bit much.
Where are u doing it LL?
By the sounds of ur running you'll be well able for under 25, back urself and go out ahead of them
Doing it in Lucan. I'd be worried if I went out too fast I'll burn out. Might just stick with 25 pacer for tomorrow and over summer try and get up to 20 min pacer.

Good man LL, my money is on you beating 25 mins handy.

I am doing training to get up to 10k but have missed a couple recently. At some stage I will go back to 5k and try to improve my time. I like the sound of the 25 minute pacer, especially if it was some stunner. That would be all the motivation I would need.
Well you would have lost your money muppet! I didn't break 25mins today.
The pacer went out very fast. My watch said we did the first 1k in 4 mins and the 2nd km was well under the 5min/km that I thought we would be running at. I was shattered by the 3km and limped home at somewhere in the 26min range.
Was disappointed with myself but I'll go back again.
The park is within walking distance of my house so no excuses really for me to do park run every week
As for the pacer....yeah he was a real stunner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 29, 2014, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 29, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Well you would have lost your money muppet! I didn't break 25mins today.
The pacer went out very fast. My watch said we did the first 1k in 4 mins and the 2nd km was well under the 5min/km that I thought we would be running at. I was shattered by the 3km and limped home at somewhere in the 26min range.
Was disappointed with myself but I'll go back again.
The park is within walking distance of my house so no excuses really for me to do park run every week
As for the pacer....yeah he was a real stunner.

Unlucky laoislad, I wouldn't worry about it at all, use the experience. Not that i'm some sort of guru on running by any means but I would hesitate on doing a parkrun every weekend. Doesn't give you much time to get the quality training in that you need to look at doing PBs. Every 2-3 weeks and you would notice a bigger difference.

Last long run myself this morning in the Phoenix park...18 miles. Did it a bit unsually though to hurt the legs, 0-5 miles at faster than predicted marathon pace, 5-10 miles easy, 10-15 faster again than the 1st 5 miles and then a 3 mile easy warm down.

During the 2nd hard 5 mile I was fairly clipping it and went by a lad who took exception to me passing him and shouted "lets see how good you are when you are 70 boy"....I had to laugh and between trying to breathe managed to shout back over the shoulder...I best enjoy it now so ya grumpy bollox!  :D


If ye have a spare hour, take a look at this documentary I found on youtube about Swedish athletes and the injuries and training elite athletes go through....great stuff.

The Price of Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnQyI3Mgbc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on March 29, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
well that's omagh half marathon done and the end of the running until september for me, back unto two wheels and the lycra for the summer months  8)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 29, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
How you'd find it Gerry?

I got it tight going, likely just not the miles done for the pace I was doing. Tough going on course, miles 10-11 or so was just a long drag on a long stretch that never seemed to end.

Finished in 1.39.51 which wasn't too bad.

Great event with serious numbers. Couldn't fault the organisation and a great t-shirt and finishers gift was very unique for a race.

I'll sleep tonight!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on March 29, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
it was ok as i had managed a few 13 mile runs over the last few weeks,  i was just glad to finish it and was running just under a 9.30 min mile.  it sum change from late august when i was doing the couch to 5k on rossnowlagh beach.  i only started the running to keep me going over the winter months as i find it boring even with the head phones on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Stall the Bailer on March 29, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
I enjoyed it. It was a tough test heading out of town down the Gortin road for the last 5 miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on March 30, 2014, 09:53:43 PM
Love this thread!

Been doing parkruns in the off season, games kicking off next week so yesterday was probably my last for a good while, delighted to sign off with a 19:42 PB, nearly a full minute on what I started at!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2014, 11:20:30 PM
That's a fair bit of running. You'll be hard to keep up with when Im refereeing this year ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on March 31, 2014, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2014, 11:20:30 PM
That's a fair bit of running. You'll be hard to keep up with when Im refereeing this year ;)

Haha, don't think you'll have any bother! How do you find the training for running affects the hurling fitness!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 31, 2014, 09:07:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2014, 11:20:30 PM
That's a fair bit of running. You'll be hard to keep up with when Im refereeing this year ;)

Haha, don't think you'll have any bother! How do you find the training for running affects the hurling fitness!!

I find/found (cause I'm too old now :() that I had the same fitness levels and speed for the whole game and didn't feel tired at the end, which in the long run helps your concentration levels and ability to think in a game. There are a lot of benifits to it, if you are running 6/7 miles at a good pace and translate that into a game it certainly helps, obviously running straight and not having someone tackle you or strike the ball will take a lot more out of you but if you have controlled breathing then you (I find) are better off for it.

You should mix in sprints in your 5k runs, pick telephone poles and sprint between them every so often, so you don't lose the speed which over 10 yards is needed in hurling
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Connemarathon on Sunday, feeling well trained and all systems are go..anyone else on here doing it? Am hoping for 3.30-3.40 time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on March 31, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
Cheers for the advice MR2! Give it a better lash next year!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 31, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Connemarathon on Sunday, feeling well trained and all systems are go..anyone else on here doing it? Am hoping for 3.30-3.40 time.

Best of luck. Done it last year, very tough. Great route and no nicer place to run. I enjoyed the first 16 miles but went too hard into a stiff wind. Wheels came off.

Hell of the west is well named!

You did it before if I recall?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote












Moysider5k sub 20; 10k 42something210193MarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   173   158   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k201030000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon133.3150000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.21340000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         150         0000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run32560000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins034.449.5000000000



Updated.

Better than last month. Moving on towards 10k but not really sure if I can make that. I am still determined to improve the 5k time at some stage this year though. A park run in the next month maybe........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 31, 2014, 09:10:40 PM












Moysider5k sub 20; 10k 42something210193MarAprMayJuneJulyAugSeptOctNovDec
Mayo4Sam                           5k - Sub 19                   173   158   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   
BallinamanSub 2.56.31 mara,PBs in 1/2 and 10KM39500000000000
imtommygunnsub 35 10k201030000000000
LaoisladTo Finish Dublin Marathon/Sub 25min 5k133.31571000000000
Bingosub 40m 10km & Sub 1.30 HM11000000000000
Milltownrow2goal sub 20min 5K, 43min 10k                102.21340000000000
Take_yer_points5k - sub 20 / marathon sub 4hrs              115         150         0000000000
Magpie SeanieComplete 10k, then Warriors Run32560000000000
lfdown2                                5k - sub 20 / Half marathon - 1:30          28.43        00000000000
decsub 1:45 Half Mar8000000000000
muppet5k sub 25 mins034.449.5000000000



Updated.

I was thinking would it be better if only one person updated the table? We could send our distances via PM and only have to post the table once?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2014, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Connemarathon on Sunday, feeling well trained and all systems are go..anyone else on here doing it? Am hoping for 3.30-3.40 time.

Best of luck. Done it last year, very tough. Great route and no nicer place to run. I enjoyed the first 16 miles but went too hard into a stiff wind. Wheels came off.

Hell of the west is well named!

You did it before if I recall?

Did it last year, am from around that part of the country originally, so have plenty of hill running in the legs already this year, the wind was bad last year and a bit like you the wheels came off.......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 31, 2014, 10:56:15 PM












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Updated. Had a decent month up until last week where after a really good run I got a flu like virus so haven't run for a week. Some 5k's and 10k's on the horizon in the next 4-6 weeks, looking for PB's.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2014, 11:26:36 PM
Sure I posted it up so I can look after it, PM me ur monthly totals and any changes to ur goals and I'll up date it 3/4 days after the end of the month
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2014, 10:12:34 AM
Like looking at the matrix there Bingo..
Congrats on the 1/2, good to get back on the horse!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 01, 2014, 10:26:22 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 01, 2014, 10:12:34 AM
Like looking at the matrix there Bingo..
Congrats on the 1/2, good to get back on the horse!

Only I can break the code!

Good to be back on the horse, it nothing else it put me back in mind to get a training plan together. Been very hit and miss lately and missed it to be honest.

How you fixed for Boston? Your training seems to be going really well and I'm sure your in the taper now.

One of the Rockets heading over, he looking to break 3.30. He done Connemara with me last year and was in far better shape then but the tough day/course caught him up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
How do you know what tempo pace/long slow run and fast run pace you should be doing?
I'm going to concentrate on lowering my 5k times for the next few months until I start training for marathon.
All the training plans have interval runs,tempo runs,fast runs etc.

Like this one for example
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/50935/5K-Advanced-Training-Program
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 03, 2014, 10:53:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 03, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
How do you know what tempo pace/long slow run and fast run pace you should be doing?
I'm going to concentrate on lowering my 5k times for the next few months until I start training for marathon.
All the training plans have interval runs,tempo runs,fast runs etc.

Like this one for example
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/50935/5K-Advanced-Training-Program
Easy run - able to hold conversation, talk easily while running. Important for recovery days.
Tempo run - only able to speak words while running, close to race pace for a sustained effort.
Fast/Interval - Not able to talk, sprint basically.

You could do it via heart rate if you have a monitor, i wouldn't know much about training via heart rate though, tommy your man there I reckon.
Anyone have any other ways of describing them?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 03, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 03, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
How do you know what tempo pace/long slow run and fast run pace you should be doing?
I'm going to concentrate on lowering my 5k times for the next few months until I start training for marathon.
All the training plans have interval runs,tempo runs,fast runs etc.

Like this one for example
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/50935/5K-Advanced-Training-Program

Your times/paces should be based on your current times or target times.

Many intervals or VO2 sessions will describe the fast pace as your 5km pace or even just faster than that eg you run 5km in 25mins, so your pace would be 5m/km (12km per hour) or faster than this, but not much.

Tempo runs they would suggest that the tempo pace will be your 10km race pace or target. Tempo would normally be a build up to this pace either by gradually increasing to peak at this pace and then slow down again eg 2km slow, 1km 1km 10km pace, 1km 5km pace, and back down. Or 1km on faster pace, 1km slow pace, 1km faster pace etc.

Slow run would be a longer run, slower than your race pace but looking to maintain it over the distance. Say 80% of the pace you'd do over that distance eg training for half marathon, run at 80% at the planned race pace.

Can be hard to nail it down at the start of a programme.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
Some of the 'fast' runs in that program are 6 miles,sure I couldn't be sprinting for 6miles!
I get the interval part alright,flat out for 400m or whatever but the fast run and tempo runs are harder to know what to be doing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 03, 2014, 11:11:58 AM
I've had tempo described as between 10k and HM pace
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2014, 11:19:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 03, 2014, 11:11:58 AM
I've had tempo described as between 10k and HM pace

Tempo running is "lactate threshold" pace. Basically it's comfortably hard - you should be able to speak during it and not be significantly struggling to breathe. If you're doing heart rate training it's maximum 85% HR.

Massively beneficial type of training.

So say for exampl you do a 25 minute 10k then a tempo should be at about say 55 minute 10k pace for you so that'd be ~ a minute a mile slower than your parkrun. That's ballpark but it'd be round marathon pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on April 03, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
Just started back there last week (after probably over a year without any serious training) we have a good 4km run close at hand.

I've just been doing 1 lap as fast as I can and after 4 attempts I did my second full lap at 18:30 there on Tuesday... ideally I would like to get that down closer to 16 or less and then consequently sub 20 for the 5k (Starting Parkrunning next Saturday).

Should I be interval running or just blasting out fastest laps as much as possible?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 03, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 03, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
Some of the 'fast' runs in that program are 6 miles,sure I couldn't be sprinting for 6miles!
I get the interval part alright,flat out for 400m or whatever but the fast run and tempo runs are harder to know what to be doing.

The programme is advanced one if I'm reading right.

When I'm doing intervals I always try to keep it consistant, so that first interval is at same pace as the last one and those in between are similar. This will ensure consistency and ensure that you just aren't blowing out hard on  the first one and not getting any real benefit over the session. That's why I like to target the pace over the session based on known times - 5km pace or 10km pace.

When that programme asks for fast over a 6mile run, my reading would be that be looking a race pace over the run ie what pace, you would look to race that distance over. On such a run, I'd try and up the pace for the last part - ie last mile or last km. Can be tough but has real benefits.

That make any sense!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 05, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
Anyone else for the Titanic tomorrow? If picking up your T - try it on first! I had a medium which was massive on me - exchanged for a small which looks like it's been painted on me. Need a smedium I think!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 05, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
Good look JimStynes running the Paris marathon tomorrow and anyone running Connemara!Hope the knees hold up Jim!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 05, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 05, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
Good look JimStynes running the Paris marathon tomorrow and anyone running Connemara!Hope the knees hold up Jim!

Cheers! I'm already regretting the pizza I had tonight! Legs walked clean off me today and yesterday site seeing so it's probably not the best preparation in the world. My knee was sore walking up steps in louvre museum today so I can only imagine what it's gojng to be like tomorrow after 15 mile!! I really hope I can finish it! I don't give a shit about 'a time' anymore. What a city to be running in though, amazing scenery everywhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 11:06:02 AM
Good luck Jim!! Overcast today hopefully not windy for Titanic race today, good luck to
The runners out this morning and afternoon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 06, 2014, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 11:06:02 AM
Good luck Jim!! Overcast today hopefully not windy for Titanic race today, good luck to
The runners out this morning and afternoon

I was down running round the docks there - very windy at the minute!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 06, 2014, 01:05:21 PM
Best of luck jim
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 06, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
Best of luck Jim and Gaelgoir in the west. Bit late and hopefully yous are done and dusted at this stage.

That Sheffield story is some farce!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 03:36:06 PM
Finished! Have to check official results later. Completely brutal. Clean aching from the get go, knee was killing me from the first 5k marker! Finished the bastard though! Managed to run to 18 mile then I had to walk/shuffle from there. I reckon iT was around 4.40 sort of time! What a place to do a marathon tho. Support the whole way around was something else! Proper update tomorrow!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 03:36:06 PM
Finished! Have to check official results later. Completely brutal. Clean aching from the get go, knee was killing me from the first 5k marker! Finished the b**tard though! Managed to run to 18 mile then I had to walk/shuffle from there. I reckon iT was around 4.40 sort of time! What a place to do a marathon tho. Support the whole way around was something else! Proper update tomorrow!

Fair fcuks Jim, you're a stubborn cnut that's for sure.

Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 06, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 03:36:06 PM
Finished! Have to check official results later. Completely brutal. Clean aching from the get go, knee was killing me from the first 5k marker! Finished the b**tard though! Managed to run to 18 mile then I had to walk/shuffle from there. I reckon iT was around 4.40 sort of time! What a place to do a marathon tho. Support the whole way around was something else! Proper update tomorrow!
Congrats Jim, briiliant achievement
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 06, 2014, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time
Mighty stuff. Congrats chief!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 06, 2014, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time

Fair play, great stuff. Ignorance is bliss. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 06, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
[/quote]
It was a strong wind alright - tough at 3-4 as well MR! Very good event - finished around 46.20 or so. Won't be sure until the times go up. Was happy with that and felt I had a minute in the tank at least.
Great running - super PB!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2014, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time
After walking the last 8miles? I'd say that's a damn impressive time. I'd be delighted with it! Fair play to you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2014, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time

Fair play, some going with a sore knee.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 06, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 03:36:06 PM
Finished! Have to check official results later. Completely brutal. Clean aching from the get go, knee was killing me from the first 5k marker! Finished the b**tard though! Managed to run to 18 mile then I had to walk/shuffle from there. I reckon iT was around 4.40 sort of time! What a place to do a marathon tho. Support the whole way around was something else! Proper update tomorrow!

Fair fcuks Jim, you're a stubborn cnut that's for sure.

Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
Brilliant - well done MR2.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2014, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
4.34 official time
After walking the last 8miles? I'd say that's a damn impressive time. I'd be delighted with it! Fair play to you.

I flew through the first 15! Looked up and saw the 3.45 pacers and decided to slow down! Pain was to much after 18 so did a walk/shuffle into the line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 06, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
When I saw Bekele won Paris all i could think was "wonder how Jim Stynes did?" Feckin gas this thread, has you routing for folk you never met. Well done Jim, you're tough.

Great running by MR2 and CD. Times I'd only dream of for 10k.

Speaking of myself got back out today after a 12 day break due to a nasty virus and stomach bug (lost half a stone). Ran terribly. Same run 12 days ago (7k) took me nearly 4 minutes less. Was expecting a bit of a drop off but the run today was chronic. Had been in great form and was targetting a good 5k time in a race next Saturday but might have to curb my expectation.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: CD on April 06, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
It was a strong wind alright - tough at 3-4 as well MR! Very good event - finished around 46.20 or so. Won't be sure until the times go up. Was happy with that and felt I had a minute in the tank at least.
Great running - super PB!
[/quote]

Was trying to explain the wind factor to friends and they were yeah right!! It nearly stopped me at one point, I started way to fast, no pacers at the race so was reliant on the Garmin which worked well. finished in position 149, loads of ones sprint finishing I couldn't as I kicked on at the last k and had nothing left for the last quarter.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
Well done JimStynes. You're clearly a stubborn guy!! Have been somewhere similar myself only in a half marathon.

Some good 10k times. People I know who were at the sharper end were slower by over a minute due to the wind.

Nearly made the 30 miles last week though not quite! Back to doing sessions this week though.

BM - how long till Boston? Can't be long now(it is boston isn't it?!) I know it must be soon enough as a boy I know doing it and it's plastered all over facebook.

Some run by Bekele yesterday. London should be good this weekend. Prepare to see Mo Farah get his ass handed to him on a plate. I hope he doesn't to be honest but think he will.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 07, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 06, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
When I saw Bekele won Paris all i could think was "wonder how Jim Stynes did?" Feckin gas this thread, has you routing for folk you never met. Well done Jim, you're tough.

Great running by MR2 and CD. Times I'd only dream of for 10k.

Speaking of myself got back out today after a 12 day break due to a nasty virus and stomach bug (lost half a stone). Ran terribly. Same run 12 days ago (7k) took me nearly 4 minutes less. Was expecting a bit of a drop off but the run today was chronic. Had been in great form and was targetting a good 5k time in a race next Saturday but might have to curb my expectation.

Never underestimate how much that would have taken out of you plus 12 days break, so 4mins will be nothing in the grander scheme. The plus point is that you will get back to where you were in no time, 2/3 more runs and it be like you never away.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
Also when you're training try to focus more on effort levels than time - times in your training aren't really that significant. Tiredness / circumstances like sickness etc will always factor and you won't feel the same from one day to the next.

I do the same 7 mile loop twice a week and my times vary by a few minutes on it. I try to do it at a certain heart rate though so don't let the times bother me.

It's tempos / races etc you should worry about times. Times in training mean you will likely race each run and then you're going to fast to get maximum fitness benefit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 07, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
Also when you're training try to focus more on effort levels than time - times in your training aren't really that significant. Tiredness / circumstances like sickness etc will always factor and you won't feel the same from one day to the next.

I do the same 7 mile loop twice a week and my times vary by a few minutes on it. I try to do it at a certain heart rate though so don't let the times bother me.

It's tempos / races etc you should worry about times. Times in training mean you will likely race each run and then you're going to fast to get maximum fitness benefit.

Very true and was something I would have done on my first marathon training programme. Ever run was run at a pace I thought I should be running at or rather could run at. More control or predetermined pace on the training runs really help.

Can be difficult to set that though. Sometimes its just easier to run and enjoy it if you are running irregularly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
Yeah I think it's about viewing training as a bigger picture if you're training for something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 07, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
BM - how long till Boston? Can't be long now(it is boston isn't it?!) I know it must be soon enough as a boy I know doing it and it's plastered all over facebook.
2 weeks today.
Ran a 8km race down west yesterday. Try to control it as much as I could and keep the splits even. Finished 2nd in 27.46, if I had another 2km would have fancied my chances of catching 1st who came in 20 seconds ahead. Calf started to grab a little in the last km so didn't do anything stupid and took foot off the gas.
Flying over on Friday week with about other 50 Irish entrants. Should be good buzz, heading to Fenway on the Saturday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
I think there's a belfast-boston charity group set up so should be a right few going over from Belfast. One the boys who is going over has run 28 and a half for a 10k (yes a 10k) on the track. He's not in that kind of shape now though!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 07, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: CD on April 06, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
It was a strong wind alright - tough at 3-4 as well MR! Very good event - finished around 46.20 or so. Won't be sure until the times go up. Was happy with that and felt I had a minute in the tank at least.
Great running - super PB!

Was trying to explain the wind factor to friends and they were yeah right!! It nearly stopped me at one point, I started way to fast, no pacers at the race so was reliant on the Garmin which worked well. finished in position 149, loads of ones sprint finishing I couldn't as I kicked on at the last k and had nothing left for the last quarter.
[/quote]
I managed 25.56! Delighted with that - had hoped for 47 or thereabouts. Had a fair bit in the tank as well. Think I can knock 2 minutes of that with a bit of work. Identical for both 5ks so have it in the legs - just not the head! First 10k in 6 years so need a bit more practise.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 07, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: CD on April 07, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2014, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: CD on April 06, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Just back from the Titanic Quarter 10k beat my PB and my target of 43 beat also with a time of 42.45!! Boom. Christ the wind was mental near the finish, last K was like running into a turbine. Great event and well supported.
It was a strong wind alright - tough at 3-4 as well MR! Very good event - finished around 46.20 or so. Won't be sure until the times go up. Was happy with that and felt I had a minute in the tank at least.
Great running - super PB!

Was trying to explain the wind factor to friends and they were yeah right!! It nearly stopped me at one point, I started way to fast, no pacers at the race so was reliant on the Garmin which worked well. finished in position 149, loads of ones sprint finishing I couldn't as I kicked on at the last k and had nothing left for the last quarter.
I managed 25.56! Delighted with that - had hoped for 47 or thereabouts. Had a fair bit in the tank as well. Think I can knock 2 minutes of that with a bit of work. Identical for both 5ks so have it in the legs - just not the head! First 10k in 6 years so need a bit more practise.
[/quote]

That's some time and PB well and truly smashed  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 02:47:53 PM
Does this happen a lot?

Was doing the 10k on Sunday, before the start i was chatting to the usual suspects that I know who do Tri's, lads who go to the local gym and having some banter with others, noticed a lad that lives nearby, kids and same school as mine and so on. He's very good at the Tris and in a tri club, would be strong runner. Anyways he was at the start of the race and I was about 4 deep behind him, after two miles I passed him as he stopped and was in trouble (probably went to quick)

So I finished the race mentioned to the wife I seen this lad and she said aye he was standing with them explaining why he finished after 2 miles, so, I was at circuits this morning and friend was asking how I'd done, he said that (this guy who stopped) finished the race on 36 minutes!!! WTF why would someone give a bareface lie, knowing that these things are chipped and a lot of people from clubs would have seen him dandering back!! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Results are pretty widely available so anyone with any sense wouldn't be saying it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Results are pretty widely available so anyone with any sense wouldn't be saying it!

Exactly, cause when I said nah he didn't finish my mate texted to say he didn't see his name on the list of finishers. Dumb ass, wish I knew him better, I would't be slow in letting him know lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Results are pretty widely available so anyone with any sense wouldn't be saying it!

Exactly, cause when I said nah he didn't finish my mate texted to say he didn't see his name on the list of finishers. Dumb ass, wish I knew him better, I would't be slow in letting him know lol

He'll look pretty stupid next time he goes to do a 10k and finishes considerably slower too.(assuming he does) Pointless.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 08, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Results are pretty widely available so anyone with any sense wouldn't be saying it!

Exactly, cause when I said nah he didn't finish my mate texted to say he didn't see his name on the list of finishers. Dumb ass, wish I knew him better, I would't be slow in letting him know lol

He'll look pretty stupid next time he goes to do a 10k and finishes considerably slower too.(assuming he does) Pointless.

There's always one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2014, 06:32:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Results are pretty widely available so anyone with any sense wouldn't be saying it!

Exactly, cause when I said nah he didn't finish my mate texted to say he didn't see his name on the list of finishers. Dumb ass, wish I knew him better, I would't be slow in letting him know lol

He'll look pretty stupid next time he goes to do a 10k and finishes considerably slower too.(assuming he does) Pointless.

I thought I had opened the Michael D. thread and I was scratching my head at this post.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 07:01:02 PM
I'm still sore from Paris!!
Bit of a report on how i got on.
The wife and I landed in on Friday and went to the expo, really easy and plenty of staff on hand to make it as quick as possible to sign in. The usual gear to buy at these sort of things, I had everything I needed so bypassed all that. Went and got a steak that evening and walked around half of Paris trying to find our way home.

Up early on saturday and went to Louvre, Norte Dame, boat cruise, eiffel tower, arc de triomphe and few other touristy things. Clean wrecked and feet walked off me! Wouldnt have done as much sight seeing if I was going for a time in the marathon the next day as my feet and legs were sore and tired on the morning of the marathon. Got a pizza and pasta between us that night, prepared all my running stuff and then in bed for 11. Hardly slept from 3am onwards though as the nerves started to kick in.

Sunday - race day. Up at 7 and down for breakfast, they didn't have porridge ffs! Had to get a few bits of bread, toast, nutella and coco pops for breakfast  ??? Not my usual breakfast before a long run but it had to do. Up to the room and got changed and maybe my way to the metro! Loads of people on the train with their race numbers on and it was amazing to see the amount of people from all over the world running in this race. 50,000 ppl apparently! Got to my section, said goodbye to the wife and made my way to find a good position for the start of the race. The atmosphere was unreal, music blaring and people dancing and generally having a good time! The nerves had gone at this stage and I was just treating it as a run through Paris on a Sunday morning!

Started off at a comfortable pace but the heat was worrying me! Thankfully it eased off and became a little overcast with almost perfect conditions for running in. I was sore from the start and at the 5 k mark I started doubting was I actually going to damage my knee for good and was I actually going to make it around. The atmosphere drives you on though. The french support were amazing the whole way around, bands playing everywhere and at some sections it was like the Alp D'huez type climbs on the tour de france, where the support is lined both sides right up close, ringing bells,  shouting ur name and cheering you on. Class feeling! Got to the 15 mile mark and saw the 3.45 paces about 20m in front of me. I had my garmin on but me being a dickhead must have hit the stop button at one stage and missed a couple of mile so I wasn't sure what my pace was or how long I had been running. Started to slow down as this point as I worried I was going to hit the wall. At the 18 mile mark it all started to go wrong! My knee was seizing up and I saw the 3.45 pacers drifting further and further away in the distance. I didn't care though but was again starting to doubt was I wise in running on! Said f**k it and pushed on through to 20 mile mark and once I got there it was literally a run and shuffle to the line. 4 and half hours of all sorts of emotions! Really hard to describe until you actually do it. It's the most I've ever had to dig to finish something but, even though the time is shit, I am proud I was able to finish. After that the wife and I went and lay in the park for an hour until I could move again. I was aching at this point so I had pain killers in me before during and after the race but wasn't making a difference. Back to the hotel and showered then got something to eat (i only wanted rice for some reason) and drank about 4 litres of water and even though I don't like fizzy drinks I must have had 5 bottles of coke/fanta. Made our way to the airport and waited for the flight. Couldn't sleep that night as I was so sore and was dreading work! Told all the children in school that I came 4th, they all believed me and told their parents! I won't tell them any differently.

I would definitely recommend the Paris marathon to beginners like myself. Amazing scenery, flat course, plenty of food and drinks, sugars (I used 4 of my own gels though) and fruit. The support and atmosphere is the main thing though, it really does make so much of a difference.

I have learned a lot from this marathon and I definitely want to do another one at some stage! Maybe Paris again, maybe somewhere like Berlin. Im not sure, going to stick to the cycling at the minute and do a couple of half marathons this year. Few things I would do differently but one would be to start off slower and not build the miles up as much! Take my time and build up to the big miles so I can get as many long runs as I need. Because of the knee I only managed one 16 mile run and one 17.5 mile run and the rest were 12/13 mile runs. The last 6 mile were a killer so obviously the fresher and fitter you are for those last 6 mile the easier it will be. I would also try harder to drop some weight for it. I am 6ft, 92kg and that is a lot to carry around for 26 odd mile. 

I have just randomly put in things as I could remember them so I am sure I have forgotten loads of details so forgive me if it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 08, 2014, 07:09:42 PM
Great read Jim!  Well done on finishing, some achievement. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Great report and well done.
Hardly a shit time though in fairness. If I do the Dublin Marathon and come in around that time I'll be delighted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 08, 2014, 07:55:01 PM
Savage stuff Jim. Class, you're some warrior.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Great report and well done.
Hardly a shit time though in fairness. If I do the Dublin Marathon and come in around that time I'll be delighted.

Thanks lads.

I know it's an achievement but I just would love to have known what I could have done if i was properly prepared and injury free. I realise now that anyone that finishes a marathon deserves a pat on the back because it is certainly not easy.

Early days but does anyone have any recommendations where to do a marathon that would be like paris or better. I am thinking about Berlin or somewhere like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
Berlin is a good one. A ballot though.

Great stuff Jim. Good old irish stubbornness!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 08, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Great report and well done.
Hardly a shit time though in fairness. If I do the Dublin Marathon and come in around that time I'll be delighted.

Thanks lads.

I know it's an achievement but I just would love to have known what I could have done if i was properly prepared and injury free. I realise now that anyone that finishes a marathon deserves a pat on the back because it is certainly not easy.

Early days but does anyone have any recommendations where to do a marathon that would be like paris or better. I am thinking about Berlin or somewhere like that.

I did New York 12 years ago! Was an amazing experience. Like yourself, I though if I'm going to run 26 miles, I'm going to do it somewhere iconic. Your  report there would put me in the form for doing another one! Congrats again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 08, 2014, 09:16:49 PM
Fair play Jim, love reading race reports like that cause no two are ever the same, it's a unique experience for everyone and every run. You learn alot about yourself on a run like. Great stuff.

Suddenly Paris in the spring 2015 sounds appealing  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Great report and well done.
Hardly a shit time though in fairness. If I do the Dublin Marathon and come in around that time I'll be delighted.

Thanks lads.

I know it's an achievement but I just would love to have known what I could have done if i was properly prepared and injury free. I realise now that anyone that finishes a marathon deserves a pat on the back because it is certainly not easy.

Early days but does anyone have any recommendations where to do a marathon that would be like paris or better. I am thinking about Berlin or somewhere like that.

Well done Jim, great stuff, stick to a few sprint Tri's this year before another big challenge
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 08, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Great report and well done.
Hardly a shit time though in fairness. If I do the Dublin Marathon and come in around that time I'll be delighted.

Thanks lads.

I know it's an achievement but I just would love to have known what I could have done if i was properly prepared and injury free. I realise now that anyone that finishes a marathon deserves a pat on the back because it is certainly not easy.

Early days but does anyone have any recommendations where to do a marathon that would be like paris or better. I am thinking about Berlin or somewhere like that.

Well done Jim, great stuff, stick to a few sprint Tri's this year before another big challenge

Ive this giro cycle next month then I will probably try and play a bit of football and the odd triathlon but nothing big for another year or so!  My ma and da were just saying tonight there that it is amazing to think I could hardly walk just over a year ago with my back! Don't want to rip the ass out of things and get injured again though, the pain from my back operation was far worse than the pain after the marathon so I definitely don't want to go back to that again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
i was hoping the asics cumulus were going to last me a couple of years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 10, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
I run on the treadmill and it bores the bejesus out of me, never really ran outside but tempted to give it a go, would love to do a half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 10, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 10, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
I run on the treadmill and it bores the bejesus out of me, never really ran outside but tempted to give it a go, would love to do a half marathon.

Do the Parkrun Dennis, you'll get the bug. 

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 10, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
I run on the treadmill and it bores the bejesus out of me, never really ran outside but tempted to give it a go, would love to do a half marathon.

Do the Parkrun Dennis, you'll get the bug.

Rois, did you do the Titanic run? Whats' your next one before the big day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 10, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 10, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
I run on the treadmill and it bores the bejesus out of me, never really ran outside but tempted to give it a go, would love to do a half marathon.

Do the Parkrun Dennis, you'll get the bug.

Rois, did you do the Titanic run? Whats' your next one before the big day?
I didn't - I had to do wedding invites and go to Omagh to watch Tyrone.

I'm going to do Lisburn - did it last year and quite enjoyed the route out into the country.  It's a while off yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 10, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
I run on the treadmill and it bores the bejesus out of me, never really ran outside but tempted to give it a go, would love to do a half marathon.

Do the Parkrun Dennis, you'll get the bug.

Rois, did you do the Titanic run? Whats' your next one before the big day?
I didn't - I had to do wedding invites and go to Omagh to watch Tyrone.

I'm going to do Lisburn - did it last year and quite enjoyed the route out into the country.  It's a while off yet.

Friend sent text about it, what date? Half Marathon and Ten K, could I be arsed doing the half marathon? Dunno
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 08:04:15 PM
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 10, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
Really well supported event. Weather last year was beautiful. Just do the 10k. I'll race you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 10, 2014, 09:48:49 PM
I would be interested in that half marathon to keep me ticking over at a decent enough distance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2014, 10:09:05 PM
I did the 10k last year. Not a bad course. Massive amount of people in it. Possibly the biggest 10k up here. Over two thousand in it last year!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 10, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
Might pencil in the half myself, is it generally a flat route for the half?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2014, 10:27:50 PM
I think it's "undulating". Haven't done the half but have heard it's not a bad course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
Heard there are a few hills in it, If I'm doing it I'm looking under 1h 40min
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
One big hill at the end i think but rest ok. So i've been told anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 10, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
What sort of pace is that? I don't think I would be training for this one because of gaelic and other things so I would probably stick to around 8.30 min miles and just try to finish it without wrecking myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 11, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
Mr Rois did the half last year.  His description:
"It's pretty flat til Sprucefield (say 6 miles), then there is a steady uphill section on the main road for say a mile, then there is an undulating country road section for say 3 miles, then steady enough downhill/flat for say 1.5 miles then a bit up and down for the last stretch...all in all it's a tough enough course".

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 11, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
Cheers, might keep it in mind. Will see how Newry goes, it seems to be a flatter course to target the PB in. If not Lisburn could be hit.

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Ah ffs!! Well no better man for giving it the proper treatment!! Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 11, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Ah ffs!! Well no better man for giving it the proper treatment!! Good luck

Yeah - you're very generous with your help to others on here so I'm sure everyone is hoping you get over this injury and do yourself justice in the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 11, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Ah ffs!! Well no better man for giving it the proper treatment!! Good luck

Yeah - you're very generous with your help to others on here so I'm sure everyone is hoping you get over this injury and do yourself justice in the marathon.

Big time, I've called on Ballinaman for many an injury and he has  never let me down, pure gent
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 11, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Ah no, fingers crossed for you and hopefully you get sorted. It would be bad enough to miss on a marathon if you where plodding like the rest of us but to be in your position and have put in the work to get yourself on target for such a time is tough.

I've faith that you'll turn it round and give it a big effort.

Good luck on the recovery, you know what your at.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Sorry to hear that. Hope it works out. You know better than anyone how to treat it so hopefully you'll be ok!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 11, 2014, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

Ffs that's ket. Hope it goes well and you get through it alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on April 11, 2014, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 11, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Felt the calf tighten in the last KM of the 8k last Sunday. Didn't think much about it, took Monday off as a recovery day. Went to run on Tuesday morning and had to turn back after 2 miles. Nice few tears along the inside of the calf...
Hobbling around and getting treatment on it as much as can over the last few days. Haven't run since.
Trying not to panic as the training is done and was going to be winding down. Recovery time is usually 7-10 days but one thing thats not recommended is a marathon in your first week back...
Will see how it goes, throwing every form of treatment under the sun at it...fingers crossed.

And they are not very helpful with regard to having to withdraw due to injury.

http://www.baa.org/faq.aspx

Q: What do I do if I cannot participate (injury or otherwise) in the Boston Marathon once I have registered?

A: Numbers and entry fees are non-refundable, non-deferrable and non-transferable. You may NOT give your number to someone else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 12, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
First race win of season/career/lifetime/ever  ;D (and probably last)

One of the local GAA clubs had a 10k this morning and was first home in a PB of 40.50.

Knew I had a chance when the other local rockets took either the 5km or the 20km option.

Good start to hopefully a winning weekend, part 2 tonight with seniors in action in opening league game in front of our new big shiny stand!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on April 12, 2014, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 12, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
First race win of season/career/lifetime/ever  ;D (and probably last)

One of the local GAA clubs had a 10k this morning and was first home in a PB of 40.50.

Knew I had a chance when the other local rockets took either the 5km or the 20km option.

Good start to hopefully a winning weekend, part 2 tonight with seniors in action in opening league game in front of our new big shiny stand!

Congrats. That's a serious run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 12, 2014, 01:26:26 PM
Fair play Bingo great running.

I did another Park Run this morning,still didn't break 25mins but was 40 seconds faster than two weeks ago so I reckon I'll get there in a few weeks.
Had a right battle with one fella  ;D well it was more like a relegation battle in the 4th division unlike you boys ballinaman etc in the Champions League but we were side by side for most of the race and I could tell he was trying to pass me.
I wouldn't let him though and eventually came home about 20 seconds ahead of him.
I wondered then was it just in my head and he wasn't trying to race me but he came up to me at the end and said good race and he tried but he couldn't pass me!
Different level I know to what some of you boys do be racing at but it made my day anyway !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 12, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Just smashed my parkrun pb with a 20.46! Target for the year was sub 22 so i'll have to revise that one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: CD on April 12, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Just smashed my parkrun pb with a 20.46! Target for the year was sub 22 so i'll have to revise that one!
Well done CD That's a serious lump off your target.

It's all about the competition Laoislad
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2014, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: CD on April 12, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Just smashed my parkrun pb with a 20.46! Target for the year was sub 22 so i'll have to revise that one!
Well done CD That's a serious lump off your target.

It's all about the competition Laoislad

Cd queens isn't an easy one either.

Ll that is what keeps you going in races. Find a battle and try to win it and if you don't win it the next day. Makes it all the more entertaining.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 12, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
Some serious times in here! Good stuff lads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 12, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
First race win of season/career/lifetime/ever  ;D (and probably last)

One of the local GAA clubs had a 10k this morning and was first home in a PB of 40.50.

Knew I had a chance when the other local rockets took either the 5km or the 20km option.

Good start to hopefully a winning weekend, part 2 tonight with seniors in action in opening league game in front of our new big shiny stand!

Magic time and a win to boot, must have left nothing in the tank to no doubt to win that in the end
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on April 12, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
How much time would most lose from 5k to 10k! Would 10s a km be a fair go!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 12, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
How much time would most lose from 5k to 10k! Would 10s a km be a fair go!

Depends how hard you go in the first 5k, I was 10 seconds slower a few weeks ago and 2 minutes slower in the second part of race last week!! Though in fairness I went quick (20.26) for first 5k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 12, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
You're flying milltown!! You getting out on the bike much? I would love to do more 10ks and 5k park runs but don't have the time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 10:30:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 12, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
You're flying milltown!! You getting out on the bike much? I would love to do more 10ks and 5k park runs but don't have the time

Haven't done big miles, 25 max, but out on my own doing that. Need to do more
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 10:44:57 AM
Unreal running in London. Pace at the front is hectic
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 13, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Men's leaders through 10km in 29:11. Mo Farah 29:56

Smoking pace
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
After 19 miles the ladies ran the last mile in 5.20 min lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
After 19 miles the ladies ran the last mile in 5.20 min lol

unreal!!i couldn't run one mile at that. Farrah looks fucked
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
After 19 miles the ladies ran the last mile in 5.20 min lol

unreal!!i couldn't run one mile at that. Farrah looks fucked

Dropping a bit but may have a good finish. Think I may apply for this, it's a lottery I know but if you get it ya might as well give it a go
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
Two friends and my sister in law is running in it today. She got in through the lottery system, one qualified through his running club (he's a sub 3 hour man), and the other fella raised money for charity to get in. Might as well give it a go. I fancy Berlin for my next one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
Two friends and my sister in law is running in it today. She got in through the lottery system, one qualified through his running club (he's a sub 3 hour man), and the other fella raised money for charity to get in. Might as well give it a go. I fancy Berlin for my next one.

Guy who I know at the gym, eventually got through the lottery system, he's there today (he's applied the last 8 years). Yeah I think I'll do one, not fussed on the Belfast one done many a relay race and did 3 stages last year (15 miles) this one (London) seems to be well supported along the way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
We'll going by last weekend I couldn't recommend Paris enough for your first one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
We'll going by last weekend I couldn't recommend Paris enough for your first one

How's the knees? I found last year (I'd done no distance running) after 13 miles my knees started to ache. Don't think it would take me too long to get up to the distance but it will stop me doing my usual routine
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
Ill find out today when I am running around a football field!! Was on the bike yesterday and my legs felt tired but no problem with the knee. It's a tough game. The only thing is I would be worried the impact it will have on the joints in later life
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
Ill find out today when I am running around a football field!! Was on the bike yesterday and my legs felt tired but no problem with the knee. It's a tough game. The only thing is I would be worried the impact it will have on the joints in later life

Aye I would only do a couple if I was going to do any. I run outdoors on the road once a week, most done on the dreaded treadmill :(

But it would be a nice target/goal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2014, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 13, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
We'll going by last weekend I couldn't recommend Paris enough for your first one

How's the knees? I found last year (I'd done no distance running) after 13 miles my knees started to ache. Don't think it would take me too long to get up to the distance but it will stop me doing my usual routine

Most knee problems in running are caused by quad/hip tightness/lack of mobility. I think the running and knee thing is very over exaggerated.it'd be a lot worse on the hips. Marathons you're so long on the feet you expose weakness/mobility/tightness. Look after those muscles and you won't be too bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
That was a Kenyan who won that Patsy Kelly 5km in Dundalk, a course record that will never be broke! Serious running.

Mo Farah learnt alot today, I don't think he has a future at marathon and can see him going back to the track.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2014, 01:41:30 PM
There's a kenyan that comes over for belfast every year and stays in derry for a few months. Wonder is it him. When the top dogs were in his races last year he got beat. In saying that he won a lot too and must have went back to kenya a lot richer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 14, 2014, 12:46:06 PM
Sad news that a runner died after the marathon in London yesterday. No details released yet.

I also see an elite female runner from Sierra Leon(sp?) kept running after the finish line and hasn't been seen since, didn't appear for her flight home and looks like she has decided not to leave the UK.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that - I'd find it hard to believe I'll get another 6 mile done on top of that. The only hope I'm holding on to is I'll be doing slightly more before the marathon (planning 22 next weekend) and I did a fairly fast 10 mile on Friday past (fast for me anyway) so I won't be recovering from that come 5 May. Really looking forward to doing it, but also looking forward to it all being over and getting back down to 5k/5 mile runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 14, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 14, 2014, 12:46:06 PM

I also see an elite female runner from Sierra Leon(sp?) kept running after the finish line and hasn't been seen since, didn't appear for her flight home and looks like she has decided not to leave the UK.


It is also nice that yer man is known as Mo instead of Mohammed because the former sounds less like an international terrorist.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on April 14, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 14, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 14, 2014, 12:46:06 PM

I also see an elite female runner from Sierra Leon(sp?) kept running after the finish line and hasn't been seen since, didn't appear for her flight home and looks like she has decided not to leave the UK.


It is also nice that yer man is known as Mo instead of Mohammed because the former sounds less like an international terrorist.

Are you sure his first name's not Maurice??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on April 14, 2014, 11:52:31 PM
Did Mo Farah honestly think he would show up yesterday and win? Did the media believe it too? Talk about disrespecting competitors who have been training for years, but naw he was going to show up in his first marathon and win. Bbc are no better, even when they interviewed the winner they couldnt help but mention Farahs time to him(who couldnt care less) and also asked him advice for Farah.

Maybe this will end the sideshow that took over the Marathon the last two years. Last year he was paid to run the half marathon, which no one else can do. This year the cameras where trained on him..forget about the ones leading or even the many charity runners   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 15, 2014, 12:04:01 AM
What's the story with heart rate?

I am trying to run 3 x 15 minutes on the way from stepping up from 5k to 10k at around 10km/hr pace and struggling.

If 220 minus my age is maximum heat rate, then I am running at 12 over my maximum. I am not in distress at this rate but just can't keep it up for more than 5 minutes. Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 15, 2014, 12:04:01 AM
What's the story with heart rate?

I am trying to run 3 x 15 minutes on the way from stepping up from 5k to 10k at around 10km/hr pace and struggling.

If 220 minus my age is maximum heat rate, then I am running at 12 over my maximum. I am not in distress at this rate but just can't keep it up for more than 5 minutes. Should I be concerned?

That's only a gauge. Differs from person to person. Real test is something like 3x400 flat out with about 30 seconds in between. Max is the highest you get.

If you're near that figure though you're going too fast so would suggest slowing down. Fitness built up much better at lower heart rates...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 15, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that
Your story is very familiar to Mr-Rois-to-be's - he's going to do his final 20 miler this weekend having already done one of them, and it was very tough on him. He might be about your pace in the marathon as well actually but he's not going up to 22 miles, 20 is his limit as he doesn't want to injure himself.
It'll be a nice busy last six miles for you and even if you had to half-walk, half-run, you'd still get a fierce time. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
Ballinaman how you getting on now? You recovering from the injuries?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 15, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
Ballinaman how you getting on now? You recovering from the injuries?
Delicate. Rested from Tuesday until Sunday morning. Felt pretty good so tried a gentle jog, got about 2 miles in and could feel it coming so bit the bullet and walked home. (jaysus, walking places takes forever by the way).
Sore Sunday night and going up the stairs got a sharp pain into the achilles, calf was like Iron again.
Rested yesterday and went on the anti inflams.
Feeling the best it has been today and getting a friend to hammer it out later.
Will try a jog on Thursday.

Absolutely atrocious preparation but what can you do. If it blows on Monday I may have to hobble home, may get some plan Bs and Cs ready. 2.45 goal is out the window I reckon. Pretty tough to take but such is life, I'll get another go someday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 15, 2014, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 15, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that
Your story is very familiar to Mr-Rois-to-be's - he's going to do his final 20 miler this weekend having already done one of them, and it was very tough on him. He might be about your pace in the marathon as well actually but he's not going up to 22 miles, 20 is his limit as he doesn't want to injure himself.
It'll be a nice busy last six miles for you and even if you had to half-walk, half-run, you'd still get a fierce time.

Is he going with one of the pacers? I'm planning to head with the 3 hr 45 minute one which I think should be about 10 seconds slower than my training runs. Hopefully that'll leave a wee bit for the last 6 miles.

I know what you mean about not going to 22 as well - I hurt my calf a couple of weeks ago and don't want to risk anymore damage, but at the same time I want to get closer to 26 than just doing the 20 - 6 more miles is the guts of an hour further than the longest training run and it seems like an awful lot of running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 15, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 15, 2014, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 15, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that
Your story is very familiar to Mr-Rois-to-be's - he's going to do his final 20 miler this weekend having already done one of them, and it was very tough on him. He might be about your pace in the marathon as well actually but he's not going up to 22 miles, 20 is his limit as he doesn't want to injure himself.
It'll be a nice busy last six miles for you and even if you had to half-walk, half-run, you'd still get a fierce time.

Is he going with one of the pacers? I'm planning to head with the 3 hr 45 minute one which I think should be about 10 seconds slower than my training runs. Hopefully that'll leave a wee bit for the last 6 miles.

I know what you mean about not going to 22 as well - I hurt my calf a couple of weeks ago and don't want to risk anymore damage, but at the same time I want to get closer to 26 than just doing the 20 - 6 more miles is the guts of an hour further than the longest training run and it seems like an awful lot of running

I'm no pro but I think that you are probably running too fast on your LSR. It would appear that you are planning on running slower on the day that your actual training pace. Have you run the long runs at a steady pace or started slowly and built into marathon pace?

Ideally you should run parts of the LSR at your marathon pace - at preplanned stages. Run the shorter runs at faster pace but again it depends on the plan you following.

To me the long runs was all about the distance rather than the time. You are preparing to build up to a distance and the long run is key to that. I'd ease off the pace on the run and focus on feeling as comfortable as possible throughout, then when you do get to the day, you have the time in the legs and have a bit in reserve. Don't exert too much training to hit 22.

On the day, you'll have the taper and rest under your belt, makes all the difference on getting the remaining distance down when you do run out of steam.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
Ballinaman how you getting on now? You recovering from the injuries?
Delicate. Rested from Tuesday until Sunday morning. Felt pretty good so tried a gentle jog, got about 2 miles in and could feel it coming so bit the bullet and walked home. (jaysus, walking places takes forever by the way).
Sore Sunday night and going up the stairs got a sharp pain into the achilles, calf was like Iron again.
Rested yesterday and went on the anti inflams.
Feeling the best it has been today and getting a friend to hammer it out later.
Will try a jog on Thursday.

Absolutely atrocious preparation but what can you do. If it blows on Monday I may have to hobble home, may get some plan Bs and Cs ready. 2.45 goal is out the window I reckon. Pretty tough to take but such is life, I'll get another go someday.

Sorry to hear that. You're young enough and will have plenty more opportunities and you never know... maybe that extra 5 days will give you enough of a window to get you into shape that will get you through it. The fitness you have won't disappear in 1-2 weeks.

TYP I would agree with Bingo. You shouldn't be doing your training runs quicker than the pace you're going to run the marathon at! Also I wouldn't worry about feeling terrible in training - you'll feel much better on the day with adrenaline, crowds etc etc. and those feelings you get in training will stand you in good stead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 15, 2014, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
Ballinaman how you getting on now? You recovering from the injuries?
Delicate. Rested from Tuesday until Sunday morning. Felt pretty good so tried a gentle jog, got about 2 miles in and could feel it coming so bit the bullet and walked home. (jaysus, walking places takes forever by the way).
Sore Sunday night and going up the stairs got a sharp pain into the achilles, calf was like Iron again.
Rested yesterday and went on the anti inflams.
Feeling the best it has been today and getting a friend to hammer it out later.
Will try a jog on Thursday.

Absolutely atrocious preparation but what can you do. If it blows on Monday I may have to hobble home, may get some plan Bs and Cs ready. 2.45 goal is out the window I reckon. Pretty tough to take but such is life, I'll get another go someday.

Sorry to hear that. You're young enough and will have plenty more opportunities and you never know... maybe that extra 5 days will give you enough of a window to get you into shape that will get you through it. The fitness you have won't disappear in 1-2 weeks.

Aye, not going to throw my hat at it just yet, has been ok today and every piece of work I do today, i'm standing in a calf stretch position..haha.
Went from running 1 day a week and gym 3 days in December to hoping for 2.45 in a marathon in April so Monday isn't last chance saloon for me just yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Father Jack on April 15, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that - I'd find it hard to believe I'll get another 6 mile done on top of that. The only hope I'm holding on to is I'll be doing slightly more before the marathon (planning 22 next weekend) and I did a fairly fast 10 mile on Friday past (fast for me anyway) so I won't be recovering from that come 5 May. Really looking forward to doing it, but also looking forward to it all being over and getting back down to 5k/5 mile runs

I did my first (and only) ever marathon last year.  The first time I did a 20 mile training run, I was shocked at how hard it was near the 20 miles and I was finishing slightly downhill for the last 2 miles.  Got home in about 2hrs 56mins, doing just over the 20 miles.  I'd always heard ones saying about hitting the 20 mile wall!  I think there was 5 walls!!  The next week I did a 22 mile run (same route just a bit farther out of town), I was expecting the same again, but I was prepared for it this time.  Got through the 20 mile mark no bother as I was "ready" for it.  Although I just hit a 22 mile wall instead!!

You'll be grand.  I did about 20 miles of Belfast marathon last year (last 4 legs of relay run), I would definately say that if you know any of the route that you are running its a big help (maybe all in the head).  Also, don't get carried away at the start because (certainly in my case), it'll come back to haunt you in the final stages.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 15, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: Father Jack on April 15, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on April 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
2nd last training run for Belfast marathon done. I fell through the door in 2 hours 45 minutes having done just over 20 miles (the last mile or two all uphill). There's a bit of doubt creeping in now as I was totally wrecked after that - I'd find it hard to believe I'll get another 6 mile done on top of that. The only hope I'm holding on to is I'll be doing slightly more before the marathon (planning 22 next weekend) and I did a fairly fast 10 mile on Friday past (fast for me anyway) so I won't be recovering from that come 5 May. Really looking forward to doing it, but also looking forward to it all being over and getting back down to 5k/5 mile runs

I did my first (and only) ever marathon last year.  The first time I did a 20 mile training run, I was shocked at how hard it was near the 20 miles and I was finishing slightly downhill for the last 2 miles.  Got home in about 2hrs 56mins, doing just over the 20 miles.  I'd always heard ones saying about hitting the 20 mile wall!  I think there was 5 walls!!  The next week I did a 22 mile run (same route just a bit farther out of town), I was expecting the same again, but I was prepared for it this time.  Got through the 20 mile mark no bother as I was "ready" for it.  Although I just hit a 22 mile wall instead!!

You'll be grand.  I did about 20 miles of Belfast marathon last year (last 4 legs of relay run), I would definately say that if you know any of the route that you are running its a big help (maybe all in the head).  Also, don't get carried away at the start because (certainly in my case), it'll come back to haunt you in the final stages.  Good luck.

Good man. My 20 mile was from the Antrim Road down to the Albert Clock and then followed the route from High Street to Corporation Street - another few mile back up to the Antrim Road made it up to 20 so that's most of the route covered. For this weekend I think I'll get dropped off in town and run the route from beginning to the end of the tow path at Dargan Road and then up home - think that should be in around 22.

I'll only get carried away if the pacer does too - planning to stick with him the whole way if I'm able to
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 15, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Some light humour:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinchack/thoughts-every-jogger-has-while-out-for-a-running (http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinchack/thoughts-every-jogger-has-while-out-for-a-running)

1. What a beautiful day for a run!
2. This sucks.
3. Well, five miles is only two and half miles each way, which is basically two miles each way, so I'm really only running four miles. That's not too far.
4. It's starting to feel far.
5. How long have I been running? A year?
6. SIX MINUTES?!
7. I can barely remember what my life was like before I started this run.
8. OK, concentrate. There are still four-plus miles to go.
9. But who counts the first and last mile? This is pretty much an easy three miler.
10. Oh, shit! A fellow jogger!
11. Should I wave?
12. I'm totally gonna wave.
13. OOOK, they didn't wave back. Never doing that again.
14. Just keep running, no one saw. Except that old guy who may or may not be averting his eyes.
15. Man, I think I'm hitting that "second wind" thing my gym coach was talking about.
16. Wait, never mind. I've been running down a decline.
17. If I leap to avoid dog shit, does that make me a CrossFit athlete?
18. What the heck is CrossFit anyway?
19. Mental reminder: Google CrossFit when I get home.
20. If I ever get home.
21. If I had a heart attack right now, I wonder who would find my body.
22. OMG, I hope I never find a dead body. Joggers always find dead bodies.
23. Bodies. Body. Bod-ay. Runnin' all day, no one can catch ... may.
24. OK, I must be halfway done by now.
25. What?! Only two miles in?
26. Alright, stay focused. What am I going to eat when I get home?
27. I'm running five miles so I should probably eat five slices of pizza.
28. Or I could buy one pizza and ask them to cut it into five slices.
29. I should probably get a side salad too.
30. ...
31. f**k the salad actually.
32. Man, what are these people doing in front of me? Walking?!
33. Is this a contest to see who's the worst at walking? Because you are both champions in my heart.
34. Maybe if I pound my feet on the ground they'll hear me coming and let me pass.
35. Oh, God. They didn't turn around and now I'm right behind them. They're going to think they're getting mugged by the world's sweatiest criminal.
36. You know what? Now seems like a good time to run in the street.
37. * Jumps off curb * Parkour!
38. Hi hi hi please don't hit me with your car.
39. Pedestrian pedestrianizing over here, let me cross.
40. Thank you, Mr. Blue Honda. I'm trying to smile at you but it probably looks like I'm having a stroke.
41. Actually, I wonder what I look like right now.
42. * Checks out reflection in shop window * Yeesh.
43. Is that what I look like when I run? What am I, a newborn deer with a drinking problem?
44. Whatever, I must be almost done by now.
45. Heck yes. Three miles down, two to go. It's all downhill from here.
46. Except for that very real uphill in front of me. God damnit.
47. Wait, is that... Is that...
48. A DOG!
49. Hi dog! You are so cute. You are now my mascot. I will finish this run for you, pup.
50. And — hello — what do we have here? Your human is pretty cute too.
51. Hope you like drunk fawns, Cute Human.
52. Watch my bambi ass prance up this hill.
53. Holy shit, prancing is exhausting. I am exhausted.
54. Honestly, I don't even like running.
55. Why do I even run?
56. Why does anyone even run?
57. Why are we even alive?
58. OK, let's not go down that road.
59. Focus. Focus on that sweet, delicious 'za waiting at the finish line, calling your name with its cheesy breath.
60. Wait, less than one mile to go? I am KILLING this run.
61. I AM THE SWIFTEST GOD OF ALL TWO-LEGGED CREATURES.
62. YES, including ostriches.
63. Honestly, I should sign up for a marathon.
64. What is it, like 30 miles?
65. That's just 15 miles each way, which is practically 10, and 10 is twice five, and I can run five miles EASY.
66. That's it, I'm doing it. Thirty miles.
67. Thirty-mile marathon...30-mile marathon...30 Rock marathon.
68. On second thought, I'll probably just binge-watch every episode of 30 Rock. That takes a lot of dedication and I will be winded from laughing so hard.
69. But I could probably do a marathon IF I wanted.
70. OK, almost home. Should I shower first and order pizza or order pizza and shower before it shows up?
71. Yep, definitely ordering first. I earned that shit.
72. Oh, no. Oh god no. Another runner. Should I wave?
73. No, be strong! Do not get burned again.
74. OMG, SHE waved first! Hello! Yes! We are both runners! Look at us run!
75. I guess running's not so bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
Muppet your maths etc are bang on. If you're starting of I would recommend you work in the aerobic zone though. The aerobic zone is 70% and lower. If you work in this zone, and it will feel incredibly slow to begin with, your fitness will improve very quickly. It will also be very beneficial to weight loss and your runs will feel much easier so you will enjoy them more. You will be amazed how quickly you improve too despite the fact you are going "slow". Seriously you should try it.

I started of doing 8:45s at 70% when I started this heart rate caper. I can run ~7 minute miles and sometimes below at this now. It takes the discipline to keep below 70 though...

Basically when you start of and have a goal think of the benefits of the training and forget about the pace for the while (in fact write it off for a while).  It's all about the effort levels and not the pace. We have coaches who religiously are telling us that we must be working within certain zones and if you run your sessions too fast you won't see the benefits but it is very true.

When you do a month or two block of this then worry about 85s and 90 %s etc. (That would be my advice anyway!)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 15, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
So what is the cheapest HR monitor that will do what you want/need it to do when running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 15, 2014, 11:30:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
Muppet your maths etc are bang on. If you're starting of I would recommend you work in the aerobic zone though. The aerobic zone is 70% and lower. If you work in this zone, and it will feel incredibly slow to begin with, your fitness will improve very quickly. It will also be very beneficial to weight loss and your runs will feel much easier so you will enjoy them more. You will be amazed how quickly you improve too despite the fact you are going "slow". Seriously you should try it.

I started of doing 8:45s at 70% when I started this heart rate caper. I can run ~7 minute miles and sometimes below at this now. It takes the discipline to keep below 70 though...

Basically when you start of and have a goal think of the benefits of the training and forget about the pace for the while (in fact write it off for a while).  It's all about the effort levels and not the pace. We have coaches who religiously are telling us that we must be working within certain zones and if you run your sessions too fast you won't see the benefits but it is very true.

When you do a month or two block of this then worry about 85s and 90 %s etc. (That would be my advice anyway!)
Assume a HRM is the only reliable means of finding your max heart rate?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 16, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2014, 11:35:51 PM

If you're starting off or are coming back from injury personally i think 70% is where you will see the benefits. Basically it is to improve fitness and specifically targets your aerobic system. When you're happier with fitness move to higher hr sessions but you won't see the true benefit of them unless you are fit which is why i believe in starting off slower. Build fitness first then work on the rest.

I think I'm going back to the start to do this.  Nothing much has changed in my running (which I really don't take seriously) apart from picking up about half a minute per mile since I first started.  I don't have any difference between an easy run and a hard run - it's just a run. 
Need to get myself one of those heart rate jobs too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 16, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
Bingo, imtommygunn, missed those posts yesterday - thanks for the advice. I've been varying my pace throughout the long runs with the only constant being a lack of pace in the last few miles. Whilst I'm aiming for 3 hrs 45 I'd also like to push on a bit if I'm feeling comfortable and get close to 3 and a half if I can. The pace I'm running at feels very comfortable for the majority of it apart from those last few miles so I've been happy enough plodding away at that. Im certain I could've trained better but I've only the one long run left so will probably stick with that now.

Will definitely plan the pace in training a lot better for the next one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
Bought a new pair of trainers today, GT 2000 Asics. Haven't had a run on them yet but they feel grand.

On another note has anyone used the Amino acid tablets? Been taking them the past few weeks, I've not had any muscle injuries since but that could be a fluke.

Oh and good luck to Ballinaman. Should be a great event and hopefully things have got a lot better
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Unfortunately I've run out of time.

Tried a 30 min run there are felt like calf was going to snap after 6 mins. V sore now. Have tried everything but it's just too soon. Don't know what's going to happen on Monday.

Going to neck a load of painkillers and will hobble/walk as best as I can. Will only drop out if things get silly. Gutted isn't the word but shit happens, will be back. Cheers for the well wishes lads..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Tomorrow at 11.30.
May as well get the pints in at Fenway on Saturday now I suppose! Have tickets...no harm having a few jars now...been off the sauce since New Years. Some dose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Tomorrow at 11.30.
May as well get the pints in at Fenway on Saturday now I suppose! Have tickets...no harm having a few jars now...been off the sauce since New Years. Some dose.

Sorry to hear that BM but you'll be back.

If you've everything booked you may as well go and enjoy yourself. There'll be other days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Tomorrow at 11.30.
May as well get the pints in at Fenway on Saturday now I suppose! Have tickets...no harm having a few jars now...been off the sauce since New Years. Some dose.

Sorry to hear that BM but you'll be back.

If you've everything booked you may as well go and enjoy yourself. There'll be other days.
Totally, if this is worst thing to happen I'm laughing. I'm used to breaking the news to lads re injuries so got to suck it up now. Am 27...plenty of miles left in the legs yet hopefully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Tomorrow at 11.30.
May as well get the pints in at Fenway on Saturday now I suppose! Have tickets...no harm having a few jars now...been off the sauce since New Years. Some dose.

Sorry to hear that BM but you'll be back.

If you've everything booked you may as well go and enjoy yourself. There'll be other days.
Totally, if this is worst thing to happen I'm laughing. I'm used to breaking the news to lads re injuries so got to suck it up now. Am 27...plenty of miles left in the legs yet hopefully.

27!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christ, if I had that time back again..............................  Plenty time, and not even in your prime (running terms) get out and enjoy it tomorrow, should be a emotional start to the race on Monday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 17, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 17, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Ah that's a balls. When you flying out?
Tomorrow at 11.30.
May as well get the pints in at Fenway on Saturday now I suppose! Have tickets...no harm having a few jars now...been off the sauce since New Years. Some dose.

Sorry to hear that BM but you'll be back.

If you've everything booked you may as well go and enjoy yourself. There'll be other days.
Totally, if this is worst thing to happen I'm laughing. I'm used to breaking the news to lads re injuries so got to suck it up now. Am 27...plenty of miles left in the legs yet hopefully.

Optimum age for marathon mid to late thirties. Loads of time!

Enjoy your trip anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 17, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 17, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Unfortunately I've run out of time.

Tried a 30 min run there are felt like calf was going to snap after 6 mins. V sore now. Have tried everything but it's just too soon. Don't know what's going to happen on Monday.

Going to neck a load of painkillers and will hobble/walk as best as I can. Will only drop out if things get silly. Gutted isn't the word but shit happens, will be back. Cheers for the well wishes lads..

That's a blow. Gutted for you. Some times the body just says no.

Hope you can manage to get through the distance if its possible at all but the marathon is an unforgiving run. You'll make that call I'm sure.

Enjoy the trip and what promises to be a special occasion. Keep an eye out fit the Blayney Rocket vest on the trip.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 17, 2014, 11:58:38 PM
Enjoy the trip Ballinaman. Gutted for you after all your hard work but good to see you're still positive. Personally think the only way you could get through a whole baseball match is to be half bladdered so that test of endurance will now be easier for you!!!!!

Should be some occasion, drink in the atmosphere. You've earned it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 18, 2014, 07:36:24 AM
Ah balls ballinaman was about to wish you luck in the race when I saw your post. Enjoy the scoops in Boston well deserved.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 18, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
Best of luck in Boston BM.

These last 2 pages have been a revelation.

Instead of running 6k with a HR in the 180s and finishing somewhere around 34 minutes absolutely wrecked, I took the advice here and ran at a HR of <150. It felt very slow and I was supposed to do 3 x 17 minutes with 1 min breaks. Instead I just ran through for 53 minutes. I never had to resort to the 'thickness' Seanie referred to earlier as it was extremely comfortable. I felt I could have run a lot more at that pace. The crazy thing is that I lost weight for the first time in weeks. I will try to do more of that but might still try the odd hard (for me) 5k as mentioned above.

Thanks for the great advice.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 19, 2014, 11:37:16 PM
Good man Muppet. That's massive progress, you're motoring well now for your 10k.

Still have the remains of this fecking cold but got a couple of runs in including today. Hopefully will get back to where I was soon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 20, 2014, 12:26:27 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 18, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
Best of luck in Boston BM.

These last 2 pages have been a revelation.

Instead of running 6k with a HR in the 180s and finishing somewhere around 34 minutes absolutely wrecked, I took the advice here and ran at a HR of <150. It felt very slow and I was supposed to do 3 x 17 minutes with 1 min breaks. Instead I just ran through for 53 minutes. I never had to resort to the 'thickness' Seanie referred to earlier as it was extremely comfortable. I felt I could have run a lot more at that pace. The crazy thing is that I lost weight for the first time in weeks. I will try to do more of that but might still try the odd hard (for me) 5k as mentioned above.

Thanks for the great advice.
Brilliant! I'm definitely going to give that a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 20, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Unlucky BM but sure it'll stand to u for the next one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 20, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 20, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Unlucky BM but sure it'll stand to u for the next one
Had given up hope yesterday, was very sore walking over to the expo to get the number.
Came home and did a solid hour of stretching before bed.
Tried a gentle run this morning it pain stayed at about a 5/10 level through the run and hasn't been feeling too bad.
So I'm going to give it a go, I should be in wave 1 but I'm going to start at the back with another guy on the tour looking for 3.30.
I've trained for 6.15 per mile so I'm hoping running at 7.50s should offset the injury. It's just about finishing tomorrow, the PB will fall another day. Atmosphere is incredible, over a million expected to line the route..be a shame not to give it a try. Will take a few neurophen and hope for the best. Wave 4 is off at 4.30pm Irish time. No guts no glory!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on April 20, 2014, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 20, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 20, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Unlucky BM but sure it'll stand to u for the next one
Had given up hope yesterday, was very sore walking over to the expo to get the number.
Came home and did a solid hour of stretching before bed.
Tried a gentle run this morning it pain stayed at about a 5/10 level through the run and hasn't been feeling too bad.
So I'm going to give it a go, I should be in wave 1 but I'm going to start at the back with another guy on the tour looking for 3.30.
I've trained for 6.15 per mile so I'm hoping running at 7.50s should offset the injury. It's just about finishing tomorrow, the PB will fall another day. Atmosphere is incredible, over a million expected to line the route..be a shame not to give it a try. Will take a few neurophen and hope for the best. Wave 4 is off at 4.30pm Irish time. No guts no glory!

That's crazy but ballsy. Best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 20, 2014, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 20, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 20, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Unlucky BM but sure it'll stand to u for the next one
Had given up hope yesterday, was very sore walking over to the expo to get the number.
Came home and did a solid hour of stretching before bed.
Tried a gentle run this morning it pain stayed at about a 5/10 level through the run and hasn't been feeling too bad.
So I'm going to give it a go, I should be in wave 1 but I'm going to start at the back with another guy on the tour looking for 3.30.
I've trained for 6.15 per mile so I'm hoping running at 7.50s should offset the injury. It's just about finishing tomorrow, the PB will fall another day. Atmosphere is incredible, over a million expected to line the route..be a shame not to give it a try. Will take a few neurophen and hope for the best. Wave 4 is off at 4.30pm Irish time. No guts no glory!

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 21, 2014, 09:21:55 AM
Ah good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on April 21, 2014, 10:37:05 AM
Good luck BM. Listen to your body. You're superfit and there will always be the next one so don't do the GAA thing of bustin a gut, as the lads have said. Your day will come.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 21, 2014, 11:18:14 AM
Everything crossed for ya Ballinaman. Boston Marathon mentioned on RTE news just there in Radio 1 and I was saying "yeah - but tell us how Ballinaman is"!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 18, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
Best of luck in Boston BM.

These last 2 pages have been a revelation.

Instead of running 6k with a HR in the 180s and finishing somewhere around 34 minutes absolutely wrecked, I took the advice here and ran at a HR of <150. It felt very slow and I was supposed to do 3 x 17 minutes with 1 min breaks. Instead I just ran through for 53 minutes. I never had to resort to the 'thickness' Seanie referred to earlier as it was extremely comfortable. I felt I could have run a lot more at that pace. The crazy thing is that I lost weight for the first time in weeks. I will try to do more of that but might still try the odd hard (for me) 5k as mentioned above.

Thanks for the great advice.

Good man muppet. No harm in the odd hard 5k. The 70% stuff is about a discipline to improve the fitness. The bulk of your running should be at it but not all.

Best of luck BM. Only live once and all that. Hope it works out for you. Take some time off afterwards though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 21, 2014, 02:38:42 PM
You are some boyo ballinaman. Hope the run goes well for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 02:43:15 PM
http://raceday.baa.org/individual.html (http://raceday.baa.org/individual.html)

Online tracker. Not sure what time it starts bst but think it's soon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 21, 2014, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 02:43:15 PM
http://raceday.baa.org/individual.html (http://raceday.baa.org/individual.html)

Online tracker. Not sure what time it starts bst but think it's soon.
fair play itg, hope it goes well for  ballinaman as he has trained like fcuk for this marathon plus he is one sound man.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 21, 2014, 05:50:14 PM
Go on Ballinaman. Bang on the pace he said he was going to attempt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
Predicted 3:33 now... not going to get the time he wanted but had to give it a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 21, 2014, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
Predicted 3:33 now... not going to get the time he wanted but had to give it a go.

The Top Women are doing 10K in 32 minutes ffs. In a marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 21, 2014, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
Predicted 3:33 now... not going to get the time he wanted but had to give it a go.

The Top Women are doing 10K in 32 minutes ffs. In a marathon!
Wow, really sticking the boot into Ballinaman. Shocking stuff from a respected poster  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 21, 2014, 07:08:45 PM
Thats the Mayos for ya. Insult the shite outta each other.  :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 21, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 21, 2014, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
Predicted 3:33 now... not going to get the time he wanted but had to give it a go.

The Top Women are doing 10K in 32 minutes ffs. In a marathon!

Ridiculous running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 21, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
He's just upped the pace in last 5km from over 8min pace per mile to 7.22min.

Go hard or go home! Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 21, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
3.30.42

Savage stuff for a man on one wing.

Congrats BM.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 21, 2014, 08:11:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 21, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
3.30.42

Savage stuff for a man on one wing.

Congrats BM.

Hear hear. Great run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 21, 2014, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 21, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
3.30.42

Savage stuff for a man on one wing.

Congrats BM.

Unreal. That's sum going! Fair play to him, he'll be a sore man tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
Good man bm. Respectable time under any circumstances never mind struggling with injury. I am guessing your , well close to anyway,negative split will probably mean your injury didn't implode so hopefully you'll be back to fitness in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 21, 2014, 08:39:00 PM
Great stuff ballinaman.  Delighted for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 21, 2014, 08:46:16 PM
Fair play to you ballinaman unreal achievement and a savage time to boot. Enjoy the pints in Boston well deserved.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on April 21, 2014, 08:46:16 PM
Fair play to you ballinaman unreal achievement and a savage time to boot. Enjoy the pints in Boston well deserved.
+1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 21, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
Inspirational stuff Ballinaman. Just brilliant.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 21, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Cheers lads. Delighted. Calf in ribbons from 9 miles onwards but difene, stubbornness, running all through my left leg and the support got me home.
Incredible atmosphere..leg is in bits now but nothing a month on the beer won't cure!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 21, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 21, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Cheers lads. Delighted. Calf in ribbons from 9 miles onwards but difene, stubbornness, running all through my left leg and the support got me home.
Incredible atmosphere..leg is in bits now but nothing a month on the beer won't cure!

Great stuff! I'm sure you're aching now. What was the weather like?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
For anyone interested london marathon ballot opens today. Always put myself in just to see. Open to anyone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
For anyone interested london marathon ballot opens today. Always put myself in just to see. Open to anyone.

Tommy on holidays internet not great can you post link straight to it please?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Forget that tommy. I see online application is closed lol. Ah well ...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Shut already? Crap. Odds are slim anyway but sure worth a punt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2014, 03:15:18 PM
Running for charity is option but must raise a fair bit id say to get accepted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 03:54:29 PM
A few grand at least i'd say. Dublin a good enough option anyway. No plans for marathon for a couple of years myself unless i got in somewhere like london.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 18, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
Best of luck in Boston BM.

These last 2 pages have been a revelation.

Instead of running 6k with a HR in the 180s and finishing somewhere around 34 minutes absolutely wrecked, I took the advice here and ran at a HR of <150. It felt very slow and I was supposed to do 3 x 17 minutes with 1 min breaks. Instead I just ran through for 53 minutes. I never had to resort to the 'thickness' Seanie referred to earlier as it was extremely comfortable. I felt I could have run a lot more at that pace. The crazy thing is that I lost weight for the first time in weeks. I will try to do more of that but might still try the odd hard (for me) 5k as mentioned above.

Thanks for the great advice.

Good man muppet. No harm in the odd hard 5k. The 70% stuff is about a discipline to improve the fitness. The bulk of your running should be at it but not all.

Best of luck BM. Only live once and all that. Hope it works out for you. Take some time off afterwards though.

imtommygunn is DA MAN!

I went out to St. Annes Park this afternoon to do my C210K week 11 day 3 run. Again 3 x 17 mins with 2 x 1 min walks in between.

I decided to go easy and if I felt alright I would run straight through with no breaks again.

When I hit 51 mins I had 8k done and was comfortable so I ran on and did 10K!

1 hr 4 mins and felt grand other than a couple of sore bits that weren't a problem when I was running.

I am officially endorsing imtommygunn for the Man United job!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
Good man muppet. It's a great feeling when you complete a goal you've set for yourself.
Onto half marathon for you now...... ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 22, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
Good man muppet. It's a great feeling when you complete a goal you've set for yourself.
Onto half marathon for you now...... ;)

Jebus!

The missus thinks I am nuts already.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
Lol - good man muppet.

I am only passing on what a) has been passed on to me and served me well and  b) i have read via this book which is highly recommended http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heart-Monitor-Training-Compleat-Idiot/dp/1891369849/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195227&sr=8-1&keywords=Heart+rate+training+for+the+compleat+idiot (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heart-Monitor-Training-Compleat-Idiot/dp/1891369849/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195227&sr=8-1&keywords=Heart+rate+training+for+the+compleat+idiot)

The thing which pains me about a lot of trainers in gyms etc etc is that they automatically bust peoples balls. To me that is not the way to do it. Build your base fitness first - forget about speed because most people won't be fit enough. Stick at that for a couple of months then when you've got fitter you can use that fitness to get faster. The heart rate stuff can be used at higher zones for disciplined speed etc too but get the fitness first...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
Lol - good man muppet.

I am only passing on what a) has been passed on to me and served me well and  b) i have read via this book which is highly recommended http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heart-Monitor-Training-Compleat-Idiot/dp/1891369849/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195227&sr=8-1&keywords=Heart+rate+training+for+the+compleat+idiot (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heart-Monitor-Training-Compleat-Idiot/dp/1891369849/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195227&sr=8-1&keywords=Heart+rate+training+for+the+compleat+idiot)

The thing which pains me about a lot of trainers in gyms etc etc is that they automatically bust peoples balls. To me that is not the way to do it. Build your base fitness first - forget about speed because most people won't be fit enough. Stick at that for a couple of months then when you've got fitter you can use that fitness to get faster. The heart rate stuff can be used at higher zones for disciplined speed etc too but get the fitness first...

I will get that book (why 'compleat' rather than 'complete' - was it written in the 1600s?).

It looks like I will also need a heart monitor for when I am not on a treadmill.

But seriously thanks again. I am delighted with the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
No idea... Not read it in a few years to be honest but a lot of people have it as "the bible".

No worries. Stick at it. You'd be amazed what you can achieve if you train right for the running. I've seen many going into it saying this goal is impossible, that goal is i possible etc etc and they've stuck at it, done the right training and achieved what they thought impossible. Marathons, 5-10 minutes of 10k pbs etc etc. All possible. Have went a lot further than i ever thought i could myself to be honest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
May - les jones (nasty hill at 8k though...)

June - lisburn

July -limited. Greyabbey but it's hilly.

August- dunno.

September- laganside

Add a tempo run if you don't do one in your training. On the theme of heart rates 85% and below for ~20 minutes.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
No idea... Not read it in a few years to be honest but a lot of people have it as "the bible".

No worries. Stick at it. You'd be amazed what you can achieve if you train right for the running. I've seen many going into it saying this goal is impossible, that goal is i possible etc etc and they've stuck at it, done the right training and achieved what they thought impossible. Marathons, 5-10 minutes of 10k pbs etc etc. All possible. Have went a lot further than i ever thought i could myself to be honest.

£1.61 on eBay.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
No idea... Not read it in a few years to be honest but a lot of people have it as "the bible".

No worries. Stick at it. You'd be amazed what you can achieve if you train right for the running. I've seen many going into it saying this goal is impossible, that goal is i possible etc etc and they've stuck at it, done the right training and achieved what they thought impossible. Marathons, 5-10 minutes of 10k pbs etc etc. All possible. Have went a lot further than i ever thought i could myself to be honest.

£1.61 on eBay.  ;D

Result. Great read though i'm a nerd to science type stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on April 22, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
May - les jones (nasty hill at 8k though...)

June - lisburn

July -limited. Greyabbey but it's hilly.

August- dunno.

September- laganside

Add a tempo run if you don't do one in your training. On the theme of heart rates 85% and below for ~20 minutes.



August 22nd, first ever Strangford Festival 10k starting and finishing in Strangford village and taking in the scenic Castleward Estate on the shores of Strangford Lough. Great way to start the Bank Holiday weekend, online entry now open!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 22, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
Good man muppet. It's a great feeling when you complete a goal you've set for yourself.
Onto half marathon for you now...... ;)

Jebus!

The missus thinks I am nuts already.

I know that feeling. When I started at this crack and was getting up and going out at 6.30am herself was looking at me like I had 5 heads.

Congrats on doing 10k. I found it a huge confidence booster to know I had completed 10k. Make sure to set your next target quick so you have something to work towards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 22, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
Good man muppet. It's a great feeling when you complete a goal you've set for yourself.
Onto half marathon for you now...... ;)

Jebus!

The missus thinks I am nuts already.

I know that feeling. When I started at this crack and was getting up and going out at 6.30am herself was looking at me like I had 5 heads.

Congrats on doing 10k. I found it a huge confidence booster to know I had completed 10k. Make sure to set your next target quick so you have something to work towards.

Cheers.

I still am a bit off 25 mins for 5k (26:50) so that target is still very much out there. Today was meant to be an easy run with a view to doing a hard 5k later this week/early next week.

Still can't get my head around how comfortable I felt. Maybe my running App/GPS is of the very flattering variety.

FFS I was struggling with 6 x 90 second runs with decent breaks in early Autumn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 23, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
I found it really hard going. Was over 20 seconds slower than my last 10k and had to work way harder. It was very warm and windy which took it out of me. Would recommend it though - nice run. Did your work colleague comment on the chip times? It started on a narrow road and it took me 20 seconds + to cross start but this wasn't taken off. Only finishing times appear to have been recorded.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 23, 2014, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: CD on April 23, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
I found it really hard going. Was over 20 seconds slower than my last 10k and had to work way harder. It was very warm and windy which took it out of me. Would recommend it though - nice run. Did your work colleague comment on the chip times? It started on a narrow road and it took me 20 seconds + to cross start but this wasn't taken off. Only finishing times appear to have been recorded.

That has happened me in any chip timed race I have been in. It's only a matter of seconds but still - it should be done correctly when it's obviously being paid for. I'll ask my colleague how it worked out for her.

Beautiful scenery around there alright, must try and do it next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 24, 2014, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: CD on April 23, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
I found it really hard going. Was over 20 seconds slower than my last 10k and had to work way harder. It was very warm and windy which took it out of me. Would recommend it though - nice run. Did your work colleague comment on the chip times? It started on a narrow road and it took me 20 seconds + to cross start but this wasn't taken off. Only finishing times appear to have been recorded.

Fair play, a target of 44 mins for 10k is astonishing to me. I have great admiration for anyone who can perform to a level like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 24, 2014, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 24, 2014, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: CD on April 23, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
I found it really hard going. Was over 20 seconds slower than my last 10k and had to work way harder. It was very warm and windy which took it out of me. Would recommend it though - nice run. Did your work colleague comment on the chip times? It started on a narrow road and it took me 20 seconds + to cross start but this wasn't taken off. Only finishing times appear to have been recorded.

Fair play, a target of 44 mins for 10k is astonishing to me. I have great admiration for anyone who can perform to a level like that.

I know how you feel muppet. Would be of a similar standard to yourself. Averaging just under the hour for 10k, but struggling to kick on due to niggling injuries. I have flat feet and am now using orthotics, seeing physio etc.

44min 10k is the stuff of dreams!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 24, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 24, 2014, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 24, 2014, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: CD on April 23, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: CD on April 22, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Ran the  Carney Co Sligo 10k on Monday. Finished in 46mins and really struggled! About a third of it seemed to be uphill! Enjoyed it all the same and will put my capitulation from 6-9k down to experience. Anyone recommend a 10k  each month until Oct? Would love to go under 44mins. Just need a bit of know how.

That course is tough. Some nasty hills alright. I had it pencilled in to do but with being sick for a few weeks I knew it was pointless.Was chatting a girl at work who did it and it took her 2+ mins more than the Cara 10k.
I found it really hard going. Was over 20 seconds slower than my last 10k and had to work way harder. It was very warm and windy which took it out of me. Would recommend it though - nice run. Did your work colleague comment on the chip times? It started on a narrow road and it took me 20 seconds + to cross start but this wasn't taken off. Only finishing times appear to have been recorded.

Fair play, a target of 44 mins for 10k is astonishing to me. I have great admiration for anyone who can perform to a level like that.

I know how you feel muppet. Would be of a similar standard to yourself. Averaging just under the hour for 10k, but struggling to kick on due to niggling injuries. I have flat feet and am now using orthotics, seeing physio etc.

44min 10k is the stuff of dreams!

My first one was over 55 minutes lads. That was 5 years ago when I was much fitter and not turning 40! I've only started taking running relatively seriously since Oct. Up until then I was going out for runs once or twice a week without any serious intent at getting better. The big change for me came when I started Parkrun in November. The wee bit of competition seems to get the best out of me. I started at around 25 mins and have got it to under 21 recently. Every one I do I learn a wee bit about how to approach it, how quick to start, when to consolidate, when to kick. I'm just pushing myself a bit harder and not having a huge Chinese and glass of wine the night before! I also bought myself a watch with a lap timer which helps me to focus on how I'm performing - my first watch!!
I have flat feet as well and found the orthotics helpful. I'm also recovering from ACL and need another cartilage clean although I've put that off as the knee feels ok at the moment. I reckon I have another 2-3 years of running before I have to buy myself a bike!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
It is seriously just about doing the right training. Everyone will have their own limitations granted but if you do the right training you can see massive gains in the running. The heart rate stuff is a good start. Once you've used that to get you fit then tempos / long runs / strnegth on hills etc etc can give you massive gains.

I've seen 50-55 minute 10k guys go down to sub 40. It is possible though I would recommend taking it steady rather than big bang and stretching and even "core" work are very beneficial for fighting the injuries.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 25, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Just getting round to a bit of a report on how Monday went. I'd probably put it down in the top 2 races Ive ever ran in terms of performance all things considering. In severe trouble from about 8 miles into the race, had 4 touch and go moments where I had to go almost to a walking pace with the leg, if hadn't subsided i would have definitely have had to stop.
The buses to Hopkinton were incredible, 600 yellow school buses on the freeway as far as the eye could see, police escort the whole way..people hanging out of their apartments waving...unbelievable.
The organisation in the athletes village was class, 36,000 runners and didn't seem it.
Started down the back in wave 4...wave 1 went at 10am and 4 at 11.30, an extra hour and half of heat to deal with too. There were people walking a mile into the race, it was seriously conjested, had to go up on footpaths a few times. The crowds were sensational, it was like something out of the Tour De France.
I basically had to run on my right heel and then roll onto the side of my foot to try and bypass the calf. The left leg had to do all the driving, couldn't generate any power off the right. The left hamstring was in bits from about halfway.
I was running with a guy hoping to do 3.30 but he started to suffer with the heat around 16 miles and told me to go ahead. I was chewing the neurophen at this stage, think i took about 6 during the race.
Once i got to 18 i knew the leg was gonna hold so thought fcuk it, lets try and go as fast as you can. Started moving through the field big time by the time i got to heartbreak hill. Mentally i was wrecked at this stage, concentrating on how to run on the right foot, my running style looked shocking i say.
At 19 miles I came up on Team Hoyte, Dick pushing his disabled son Rick for the last time in a marathon. He's a inspirational guy and I said it was an honour to share the road with them, he thanked me and I pushed on. Came up on a Blaney rockets vest in Brookline with about 2 to go, i mentioned Bingo and he knew him surely. Crowds were getting deep at this stage. Had enough of it then, the left hamstring was screaming was came up by Fenway park. Turned onto the home straight and blessed myself as went by the bomb site and got over the line, job done.
Unreal day and I would rate it higher than going sub 3 personally. Leg fairly fooked now though, 4 weeks minimum I'll be out i reckon by was worth the risk.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 25, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Just getting round to a bit of a report on how Monday went. I'd probably put it down in the top 2 races Ive ever ran in terms of performance all things considering. In severe trouble from about 8 miles into the race, had 4 touch and go moments where I had to go almost to a walking pace with the leg, if hadn't subsided i would have definitely have had to stop.
The buses to Hopkinton were incredible, 600 yellow school buses on the freeway as far as the eye could see, police escort the whole way..people hanging out of their apartments waving...unbelievable.
The organisation in the athletes village was class, 36,000 runners and didn't seem it.
Started down the back in wave 4...wave 1 went at 10am and 4 at 11.30, an extra hour and half of heat to deal with too. There were people walking a mile into the race, it was seriously conjested, had to go up on footpaths a few times. The crowds were sensational, it was like something out of the Tour De France.
I basically had to run on my right heel and then roll onto the side of my foot to try and bypass the calf. The left leg had to do all the driving, couldn't generate any power off the right. The left hamstring was in bits from about halfway.
I was running with a guy hoping to do 3.30 but he started to suffer with the heat around 16 miles and told me to go ahead. I was chewing the neurophen at this stage, think i took about 6 during the race.
Once i got to 18 i knew the leg was gonna hold so thought fcuk it, lets try and go as fast as you can. Started moving through the field big time by the time i got to heartbreak hill. Mentally i was wrecked at this stage, concentrating on how to run on the right foot, my running style looked shocking i say.
At 19 miles I came up on Team Hoyte, Dick pushing his disabled son Rick for the last time in a marathon. He's a inspirational guy and I said it was an honour to share the road with them, he thanked me and I pushed on. Came up on a Blaney rockets vest in Brookline with about 2 to go, i mentioned Bingo and he knew him surely. Crowds were getting deep at this stage. Had enough of it then, the left hamstring was screaming was came up by Fenway park. Turned onto the home straight and blessed myself as went by the bomb site and got over the line, job done.
Unreal day and I would rate it higher than going sub 3 personally. Leg fairly fooked now though, 4 weeks minimum I'll be out i reckon by was worth the risk.

Great performance BM.

How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 25, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 25, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Just getting round to a bit of a report on how Monday went. I'd probably put it down in the top 2 races Ive ever ran in terms of performance all things considering. In severe trouble from about 8 miles into the race, had 4 touch and go moments where I had to go almost to a walking pace with the leg, if hadn't subsided i would have definitely have had to stop.
The buses to Hopkinton were incredible, 600 yellow school buses on the freeway as far as the eye could see, police escort the whole way..people hanging out of their apartments waving...unbelievable.
The organisation in the athletes village was class, 36,000 runners and didn't seem it.
Started down the back in wave 4...wave 1 went at 10am and 4 at 11.30, an extra hour and half of heat to deal with too. There were people walking a mile into the race, it was seriously conjested, had to go up on footpaths a few times. The crowds were sensational, it was like something out of the Tour De France.
I basically had to run on my right heel and then roll onto the side of my foot to try and bypass the calf. The left leg had to do all the driving, couldn't generate any power off the right. The left hamstring was in bits from about halfway.
I was running with a guy hoping to do 3.30 but he started to suffer with the heat around 16 miles and told me to go ahead. I was chewing the neurophen at this stage, think i took about 6 during the race.
Once i got to 18 i knew the leg was gonna hold so thought fcuk it, lets try and go as fast as you can. Started moving through the field big time by the time i got to heartbreak hill. Mentally i was wrecked at this stage, concentrating on how to run on the right foot, my running style looked shocking i say.
At 19 miles I came up on Team Hoyte, Dick pushing his disabled son Rick for the last time in a marathon. He's a inspirational guy and I said it was an honour to share the road with them, he thanked me and I pushed on. Came up on a Blaney rockets vest in Brookline with about 2 to go, i mentioned Bingo and he knew him surely. Crowds were getting deep at this stage. Had enough of it then, the left hamstring was screaming was came up by Fenway park. Turned onto the home straight and blessed myself as went by the bomb site and got over the line, job done.
Unreal day and I would rate it higher than going sub 3 personally. Leg fairly fooked now though, 4 weeks minimum I'll be out i reckon by was worth the risk.

Sounds class BM. Some going with an injury. What's your next one? I would love Berlin at some stage with a local flat one before it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 25, 2014, 02:43:31 PM
BM part of me wants to say fair fucks and the other half wants to call u a f**king eijit for risking the leg like that.

You should know better but fair fucks
Sounds like a class occasion, from reading other reports very emotional
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on April 25, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 25, 2014, 02:43:31 PM
BM part of me wants to say fair f**ks and the other half wants to call u a f**king eijit for risking the leg like that.

You should know better but fair f**ks
Sounds like a class occasion, from reading other reports very emotional


+1

Well done. That took serious balls and determination.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 25, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 25, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Just getting round to a bit of a report on how Monday went. I'd probably put it down in the top 2 races Ive ever ran in terms of performance all things considering. In severe trouble from about 8 miles into the race, had 4 touch and go moments where I had to go almost to a walking pace with the leg, if hadn't subsided i would have definitely have had to stop.
The buses to Hopkinton were incredible, 600 yellow school buses on the freeway as far as the eye could see, police escort the whole way..people hanging out of their apartments waving...unbelievable.
The organisation in the athletes village was class, 36,000 runners and didn't seem it.
Started down the back in wave 4...wave 1 went at 10am and 4 at 11.30, an extra hour and half of heat to deal with too. There were people walking a mile into the race, it was seriously conjested, had to go up on footpaths a few times. The crowds were sensational, it was like something out of the Tour De France.
I basically had to run on my right heel and then roll onto the side of my foot to try and bypass the calf. The left leg had to do all the driving, couldn't generate any power off the right. The left hamstring was in bits from about halfway.
I was running with a guy hoping to do 3.30 but he started to suffer with the heat around 16 miles and told me to go ahead. I was chewing the neurophen at this stage, think i took about 6 during the race.
Once i got to 18 i knew the leg was gonna hold so thought fcuk it, lets try and go as fast as you can. Started moving through the field big time by the time i got to heartbreak hill. Mentally i was wrecked at this stage, concentrating on how to run on the right foot, my running style looked shocking i say.
At 19 miles I came up on Team Hoyte, Dick pushing his disabled son Rick for the last time in a marathon. He's a inspirational guy and I said it was an honour to share the road with them, he thanked me and I pushed on. Came up on a Blaney rockets vest in Brookline with about 2 to go, i mentioned Bingo and he knew him surely. Crowds were getting deep at this stage. Had enough of it then, the left hamstring was screaming was came up by Fenway park. Turned onto the home straight and blessed myself as went by the bomb site and got over the line, job done.
Unreal day and I would rate it higher than going sub 3 personally. Leg fairly fooked now though, 4 weeks minimum I'll be out i reckon by was worth the risk.

Great performance BM.

How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?

I really don't think so. Getting the Warriors Run done in August is my only real goal now. I just think a marathon is too much. Maybe that will change some day but no ambition as yet. I'm pretty sure Laoislad is going for Dublin in October.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 25, 2014, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 25, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 25, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
Just getting round to a bit of a report on how Monday went. I'd probably put it down in the top 2 races Ive ever ran in terms of performance all things considering. In severe trouble from about 8 miles into the race, had 4 touch and go moments where I had to go almost to a walking pace with the leg, if hadn't subsided i would have definitely have had to stop.
The buses to Hopkinton were incredible, 600 yellow school buses on the freeway as far as the eye could see, police escort the whole way..people hanging out of their apartments waving...unbelievable.
The organisation in the athletes village was class, 36,000 runners and didn't seem it.
Started down the back in wave 4...wave 1 went at 10am and 4 at 11.30, an extra hour and half of heat to deal with too. There were people walking a mile into the race, it was seriously conjested, had to go up on footpaths a few times. The crowds were sensational, it was like something out of the Tour De France.
I basically had to run on my right heel and then roll onto the side of my foot to try and bypass the calf. The left leg had to do all the driving, couldn't generate any power off the right. The left hamstring was in bits from about halfway.
I was running with a guy hoping to do 3.30 but he started to suffer with the heat around 16 miles and told me to go ahead. I was chewing the neurophen at this stage, think i took about 6 during the race.
Once i got to 18 i knew the leg was gonna hold so thought fcuk it, lets try and go as fast as you can. Started moving through the field big time by the time i got to heartbreak hill. Mentally i was wrecked at this stage, concentrating on how to run on the right foot, my running style looked shocking i say.
At 19 miles I came up on Team Hoyte, Dick pushing his disabled son Rick for the last time in a marathon. He's a inspirational guy and I said it was an honour to share the road with them, he thanked me and I pushed on. Came up on a Blaney rockets vest in Brookline with about 2 to go, i mentioned Bingo and he knew him surely. Crowds were getting deep at this stage. Had enough of it then, the left hamstring was screaming was came up by Fenway park. Turned onto the home straight and blessed myself as went by the bomb site and got over the line, job done.
Unreal day and I would rate it higher than going sub 3 personally. Leg fairly fooked now though, 4 weeks minimum I'll be out i reckon by was worth the risk.

Great performance BM.

How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?

I really don't think so. Getting the Warriors Run done in August is my only real goal now. I just think a marathon is too much. Maybe that will change some day but no ambition as yet. I'm pretty sure Laoislad is going for Dublin in October.
That's certainly the plan. I didn't realise how much time having 2 kids would take up though!
It's only the first week of having 2 of them so hopefully it will settle down in a few weeks.
I'm not going for any time goal just to finish the bloody thing.
I was looking at the Dublin Marathon website and I saw one of the main charities involved this year is one that we are involved in with our eldest young fella so I kind of feel it would be good to do it this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 25, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
Oh and fair play ballinaman delighted for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Billys Boots on April 25, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
QuoteIt's only the first week of having 2 of them so hopefully it will settle down in a few weeks.

It won't.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on April 25, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
Great performance BM.

How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?

Was looking at the Dublin one this year.  Would be very inexperienced in the running game but know a lad who ran London the other week and he woud have been the same.  First real race he had ever run.  Trying to talk a lad into doing it with me and then get on the roads to see if it's possible.  Been reading this thread a bit recently for a bit of inspiration.  If a man can do it on 1 and a half legs there must be some chance for me!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 25, 2014, 10:48:29 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on April 25, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
Great performance BM.

How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?

Was looking at the Dublin one this year.  Would be very inexperienced in the running game but know a lad who ran London the other week and he woud have been the same.  First real race he had ever run.  Trying to talk a lad into doing it with me and then get on the roads to see if it's possible.  Been reading this thread a bit recently for a bit of inspiration.  If a man can do it on 1 and a half legs there must be some chance for me!!

To paraphrase The King in "Waiting for Eric".......He is not a man!!!......He is BALLINAMAN!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 25, 2014, 10:55:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 25, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
QuoteIt's only the first week of having 2 of them so hopefully it will settle down in a few weeks.

It won't.  ;)

I didn't like to say!!!!

Two wee girls ourselves, 3 and 20 months, and by God it's lively. I have got used to viewing 6 hours sleep (total, not unbroken) as a good night's sleep. My plans for running are either very early, very late or lunchtime. We're out of the bad time of the year for early or late runs thankfully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 26, 2014, 10:05:38 AM
Fair play BM, great report and run. Will live long with you by sounds of it.

I'll likely see the Blayney Rocket today, I know he struggled in last stages.

Newry half is slowly approaching, been on holidays the last week but have got a good bit of mileage in, which was needed with eating out and eating big! Ran 14km in the Phoenix park last Sunday morning, what a great place to run.

Did 10 miles yesterday afternoon and I forgot how hard it is in the heat. Tough going! Another 10miles in the morning, hopefully it will be easier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 27, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
It is seriously just about doing the right training. Everyone will have their own limitations granted but if you do the right training you can see massive gains in the running. The heart rate stuff is a good start. Once you've used that to get you fit then tempos / long runs / strnegth on hills etc etc can give you massive gains.

I've seen 50-55 minute 10k guys go down to sub 40. It is possible though I would recommend taking it steady rather than big bang and stretching and even "core" work are very beneficial for fighting the injuries.
Bought myself a cheap HRM in Decathalon and went for my first 70% run today. Slowest 10k I've ever run and found it hard to keep it down, especially after the curiosity ran out when I realised how slow I was going. One rather large man who was spilling over a bike seat on the Lagan towpath at Lisburn told me I looked like I was running in slow motion. But I enjoyed it and ran for a good hr and 20mins and still could have run more.
Need to read up a bit more about all this stuff to reassure myself that I'll get fitter and burn the fat!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2014, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 25, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 25, 2014, 01:31:05 PM
How many others are looking at a marathon in the short to medium term? Laoislad? Seanie?

I really don't think so. Getting the Warriors Run done in August is my only real goal now. I just think a marathon is too much. Maybe that will change some day but no ambition as yet. I'm pretty sure Laoislad is going for Dublin in October.

Looks interesting.

16k of that would easily compare to the half marathon, no?

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 27, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
It is seriously just about doing the right training. Everyone will have their own limitations granted but if you do the right training you can see massive gains in the running. The heart rate stuff is a good start. Once you've used that to get you fit then tempos / long runs / strnegth on hills etc etc can give you massive gains.

I've seen 50-55 minute 10k guys go down to sub 40. It is possible though I would recommend taking it steady rather than big bang and stretching and even "core" work are very beneficial for fighting the injuries.
Bought myself a cheap HRM in Decathalon and went for my first 70% run today. Slowest 10k I've ever run and found it hard to keep it down, especially after the curiosity ran out when I realised how slow I was going. One rather large man who was spilling over a bike seat on the Lagan towpath at Lisburn told me I looked like I was running in slow motion. But I enjoyed it and ran for a good hr and 20mins and still could have run more.
Need to read up a bit more about all this stuff to reassure myself that I'll get fitter and burn the fat!

That is exactly what it was like for me. But after a few of these the other targets seem to get closer.

I improved my 5k time again on thursday although still haven't reached the 25 mins. I hope to do another of those slow runs (between 8-10k) today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
Managed 3 runs in Tenerife while on holidays over Easter (wife thought I was mad) but its a hilly old spot, so good work out all the same, the loop run was spot on and very popular with a lot of runners who were going at a serious pace round it.

Looking to do a marathon now, well maybe, half marathon be grand with little training but the full one I heard is not twice as hard, but 4 times as hard!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 27, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
Managed 3 runs in Tenerife while on holidays over Easter (wife thought I was mad) but its a hilly old spot, so good work out all the same, the loop run was spot on and very popular with a lot of runners who were going at a serious pace round it.

Looking to do a marathon now, well maybe, half marathon be grand with little training but the full one I heard is not twice as hard, but 4 times as hard!!

Half marathon is grand! Full is about 10 times harder if you haven't done the miles! What one u fancy doing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on April 27, 2014, 09:21:12 PM
What is the thinking behind not running the full distance when training for a marathon?  A few of the training programs I've read usually go up to around 20 miles.  Would it not be a mental boost to know you have 26 miles in you before starting rather than knowing you can do 20 but not if you'll see the line?  Went for a wee jog yesterday and today.  Did around 5k in 28 minutes.  Legs are like lead now though.  Long way to go before October!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on April 27, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on April 27, 2014, 09:21:12 PM
What is the thinking behind not running the full distance when training for a marathon?  A few of the training programs I've read usually go up to around 20 miles.  Would it not be a mental boost to know you have 26 miles in you before starting rather than knowing you can do 20 but not if you'll see the line?  Went for a wee jog yesterday and today.  Did around 5k in 28 minutes.  Legs are like lead now though.  Long way to go before October!
I think it's about injury prevention, the boys in here will be able to tell u better. If I do another one I will def go up to 22/23 miles for the mental boost and also to get used to that feeling of running when ur completely wrecked!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 27, 2014, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on April 27, 2014, 09:21:12 PM
What is the thinking behind not running the full distance when training for a marathon?  A few of the training programs I've read usually go up to around 20 miles.  Would it not be a mental boost to know you have 26 miles in you before starting rather than knowing you can do 20 but not if you'll see the line?  Went for a wee jog yesterday and today.  Did around 5k in 28 minutes.  Legs are like lead now though.  Long way to go before October!

Been discussed before. Basically going that far would mean you're spend too much energy on it and too recover would take weeks and you'd miss training and the build up. As amateur athletes, you'd not be conditioned to it. More experienced runners can and do the longer distances.

Mentally even getting to 22 is great. Doing 26 would mean reducing your training to get ready for the 26 as part of your training and you'd miss out on the required build up.

Doing 26 - rather than been a confidence boost could actually work the other way in that you'd experience how hard it is hard after 20 miles and you'd not try it again!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2014, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 27, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
It is seriously just about doing the right training. Everyone will have their own limitations granted but if you do the right training you can see massive gains in the running. The heart rate stuff is a good start. Once you've used that to get you fit then tempos / long runs / strnegth on hills etc etc can give you massive gains.

I've seen 50-55 minute 10k guys go down to sub 40. It is possible though I would recommend taking it steady rather than big bang and stretching and even "core" work are very beneficial for fighting the injuries.
Bought myself a cheap HRM in Decathalon and went for my first 70% run today. Slowest 10k I've ever run and found it hard to keep it down, especially after the curiosity ran out when I realised how slow I was going. One rather large man who was spilling over a bike seat on the Lagan towpath at Lisburn told me I looked like I was running in slow motion. But I enjoyed it and ran for a good hr and 20mins and still could have run more.
Need to read up a bit more about all this stuff to reassure myself that I'll get fitter and burn the fat!

That is exactly what it was like for me. But after a few of these the other targets seem to get closer.

I improved my 5k time again on thursday although still haven't reached the 25 mins. I hope to do another of those slow runs (between 8-10k) today or tomorrow.

Your pace at those heart rates will improve though rois. All about zones etc and definitely works so worth persisting with. Managed 36 mile this week. Most in a long time. Hopefully get racing soon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 27, 2014, 11:49:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 27, 2014, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
It is seriously just about doing the right training. Everyone will have their own limitations granted but if you do the right training you can see massive gains in the running. The heart rate stuff is a good start. Once you've used that to get you fit then tempos / long runs / strnegth on hills etc etc can give you massive gains.

I've seen 50-55 minute 10k guys go down to sub 40. It is possible though I would recommend taking it steady rather than big bang and stretching and even "core" work are very beneficial for fighting the injuries.
Bought myself a cheap HRM in Decathalon and went for my first 70% run today. Slowest 10k I've ever run and found it hard to keep it down, especially after the curiosity ran out when I realised how slow I was going. One rather large man who was spilling over a bike seat on the Lagan towpath at Lisburn told me I looked like I was running in slow motion. But I enjoyed it and ran for a good hr and 20mins and still could have run more.
Need to read up a bit more about all this stuff to reassure myself that I'll get fitter and burn the fat!

That is exactly what it was like for me. But after a few of these the other targets seem to get closer.

I improved my 5k time again on thursday although still haven't reached the 25 mins. I hope to do another of those slow runs (between 8-10k) today or tomorrow.

Good man Muppet. Any progress is to be welcomoed. Hopefully only a matter of time before you beat the 25 min target. Would say you're 5k pb is better than mine now. Was running well and ready to attack my 5k and 10k times but lost almost 4 weeks due to a virus/bug. Nealry back to where I was after a good run this evening so looking for May to be a big month for me before I really focus on my 12 week training plan for the Warriors. As you say it's an interesting race. When you're from the foothills of that mountain and haven't done the run it's a big box that needs ticking. People reckon the descent is a killer and after that you have 4 miles left.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on April 28, 2014, 11:04:41 AM
In case you were wondering if any of ye are fit for Inter County football MD MaCauley ran the Samsung 10k in 51.23 last night.

That was after a National League Final earlier in the day though so he might not have been going full pelt!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 28, 2014, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 28, 2014, 11:04:41 AM
In case you were wondering if any of ye are fit for Inter County football MD MaCauley ran the Samsung 10k in 51.23 last night.

That was after a National League Final earlier in the day though so he might not have been going full pelt!

In fairness, he could have saved himself during the game for the nightrun  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on April 28, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
He cant have been going full pelt, interco average bound to be sub 40 I'd have thought, and Dublins in particular prob closer to 35
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on April 28, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
He cant have been going full pelt, interco average bound to be sub 40 I'd have thought, and Dublins in particular prob closer to 35

Not sure about that. Completely different type of fitness. 38 or 39 minutes maybe but couldn't see too many round the 35 mark.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2014, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on April 28, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
He cant have been going full pelt, interco average bound to be sub 40 I'd have thought, and Dublins in particular prob closer to 35

Not sure about that. Completely different type of fitness. 38 or 39 minutes maybe but couldn't see too many round the 35 mark.

The Irish track record is just under 28 minutes. Hard to expect a fella after a match, running in a crowd, for something he doesn't specifically train for, to get within 10 minutes of the Irish record.

Especially if he gives as many digs racing as he does on the football field. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2014, 12:34:36 PM
Yeah I doubt MDMA was stressing himself too much to be honest plus he'd that match in him. Would expect close to 40 from a boy like him if he was on fresh legs and pushing himself.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on April 28, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2014, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on April 28, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
He cant have been going full pelt, interco average bound to be sub 40 I'd have thought, and Dublins in particular prob closer to 35

Not sure about that. Completely different type of fitness. 38 or 39 minutes maybe but couldn't see too many round the 35 mark.

The Irish track record is just under 28 minutes. Hard to expect a fella after a match, running in a crowd, for something he doesn't specifically train for, to get within 10 minutes of the Irish record.

Especially if he gives as many digs racing as he does on the football field. 

Thats the point, he wasnt fresh/going full tilt. If he had been I've no doubt he'd be within ten min of the track record, 10min over 10k is a lifetime. I've done a few with just football training under my belt and been just over the 40, and theres little chance of me being close to one of the best exponents of box to box midfield play there ever has been.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 02:04:49 PM
I'm concentrating on cycling this year so I;ve had to squeeze my running in

I do a club session which would be 1.5k x 4 or 3k x2, or some combination, maybe 2 x1.5k and 8 x200 thrown in between

I've merged this with my long run, so I jog to and from the session, makes it up to 20-24k total for the session
The odd week I do a track session, again run to and from, 16-20k total
then do 2/3 8k easy runs at lunch during the week
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 30, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
Injured now, dont know when I'll be back running, and swimming is a long way off :(
Balls. Give us a shout if you need anything.
Got an MRI on the paw yesterday evening when I got home to have a look at the leg.
Glorious grade 2 tears up through the soleus and between the 2 heads of the calf muscle in the middle....nice bit of damage but you would expect that. Reckon another 2-3 weeks probably. Left hamstring is feeling worse at the minute so I'm a bit of a crock!  ;D
Thing is to learn from this and come back stronger. Burning candle at both ends, thinking your superman when going well in training had a big part to play. Didn't look after myself properly.
So going to go for Dublin in October starting in June, unfinished business.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
My schedule at the minute is 5 times a week. 2 x easy run, 1 x very hilly fartlek, 1 x tempo and 1 x long run. I've only got up to 5 a week last week but that's what I have started with and hilly fartlek to either hill reps or trackwork will happen in next few weeks for me as well as the long and easy runs getting longer.

BM good to see you're still motivated. Age old problem that when we are going well we think we can just keep going and going - very easy to give advice to other people but really that's how I broke myself and how I know many others have broke too. The only thing I could say is learn from it but you do the right stuff so you'd be grand!

Going to try a mile race next week for something different as there's a big set of them on in Belfast to mark the sub 4 anniversary. I expect plenty of pain! It's open to all levels and there are several races for anyone interested.

Muppet stay disciplined with the heart rate stuff and the one step back won't come as soon as you think...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
My schedule at the minute is 5 times a week. 2 x easy run, 1 x very hilly fartlek, 1 x tempo and 1 x long run. I've only got up to 5 a week last week but that's what I have started with and hilly fartlek to either hill reps or trackwork will happen in next few weeks for me as well as the long and easy runs getting longer.

Going to try a mile race next week for something different as there's a big set of them on in Belfast to mark the sub 4 anniversary. I expect plenty of pain! It's open to all levels and there are several races for anyone interested.

Muppet stay disciplined with the heart rate stuff and the one step back won't come as soon as you think...

That's decent going and decent structure.

You training for anything in particular or do you have a date in mind to have a crack at the sub35 10k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 02:59:40 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 30, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
Injured now, dont know when I'll be back running, and swimming is a long way off :(
Balls. Give us a shout if you need anything.
Got an MRI on the paw yesterday evening when I got home to have a look at the leg.
Glorious grade 2 tears up through the soleus and between the 2 heads of the calf muscle in the middle....nice bit of damage but you would expect that. Reckon another 2-3 weeks probably. Left hamstring is feeling worse at the minute so I'm a bit of a crock!  ;D
Thing is to learn from this and come back stronger. Burning candle at both ends, thinking your superman when going well in training had a big part to play. Didn't look after myself properly.
So going to go for Dublin in October starting in June, unfinished business.

2-3 weeks - you'd be resting anyway after Boston, so nothing too bad!

Interested in that comment - I know you said that you were behaving yourself, so do you mean not getting the right rest and listening to the body. Or even pushing yourself too much to get to your goal target?

I'm 95% certain I'll give Dublin another go this October myself. Find it far more easier to run/train with a target race in mind. Just to tell the wife now.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
My schedule at the minute is 5 times a week. 2 x easy run, 1 x very hilly fartlek, 1 x tempo and 1 x long run. I've only got up to 5 a week last week but that's what I have started with and hilly fartlek to either hill reps or trackwork will happen in next few weeks for me as well as the long and easy runs getting longer.

Going to try a mile race next week for something different as there's a big set of them on in Belfast to mark the sub 4 anniversary. I expect plenty of pain! It's open to all levels and there are several races for anyone interested.

Muppet stay disciplined with the heart rate stuff and the one step back won't come as soon as you think...

That's decent going and decent structure.

You training for anything in particular or do you have a date in mind to have a crack at the sub35 10k?
I missed months Bingo so getting back in shape at the minute. Target 10ks are September and November. I'm aiming for a 10miler in July and a race in June at some point though am undecided which one yet(between 5 miler and 10k). Only 3 weeks doing that schedule so I feel I need 7 or 8 to be where I want to be though will hit a few parkruns in the process.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 30, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Looking at some of the stats here it might be less embarrassing to have 2 divisions, at least!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 30, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
Looking at some of the stats here it might be less embarrassing to have 2 divisions, at least!

The running can get you addicted very quickly... If there were two divisions they could really just read obsessive and not so obsessive...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
My schedule at the minute is 5 times a week. 2 x easy run, 1 x very hilly fartlek, 1 x tempo and 1 x long run. I've only got up to 5 a week last week but that's what I have started with and hilly fartlek to either hill reps or trackwork will happen in next few weeks for me as well as the long and easy runs getting longer.

Going to try a mile race next week for something different as there's a big set of them on in Belfast to mark the sub 4 anniversary. I expect plenty of pain! It's open to all levels and there are several races for anyone interested.

Muppet stay disciplined with the heart rate stuff and the one step back won't come as soon as you think...

That's decent going and decent structure.

You training for anything in particular or do you have a date in mind to have a crack at the sub35 10k?
I missed months Bingo so getting back in shape at the minute. Target 10ks are September and November. I'm aiming for a 10miler in July and a race in June at some point though am undecided which one yet(between 5 miler and 10k). Only 3 weeks doing that schedule so I feel I need 7 or 8 to be where I want to be though will hit a few parkruns in the process.

Good stuff, fair going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 30, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 30, 2014, 02:59:40 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 30, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
Injured now, dont know when I'll be back running, and swimming is a long way off :(
Balls. Give us a shout if you need anything.
Got an MRI on the paw yesterday evening when I got home to have a look at the leg.
Glorious grade 2 tears up through the soleus and between the 2 heads of the calf muscle in the middle....nice bit of damage but you would expect that. Reckon another 2-3 weeks probably. Left hamstring is feeling worse at the minute so I'm a bit of a crock!  ;D
Thing is to learn from this and come back stronger. Burning candle at both ends, thinking your superman when going well in training had a big part to play. Didn't look after myself properly.
So going to go for Dublin in October starting in June, unfinished business.

2-3 weeks - you'd be resting anyway after Boston, so nothing too bad!

Interested in that comment - I know you said that you were behaving yourself, so do you mean not getting the right rest and listening to the body. Or even pushing yourself too much to get to your goal target?

I'm 95% certain I'll give Dublin another go this October myself. Find it far more easier to run/train with a target race in mind. Just to tell the wife now.  ;D
Yep, for example...the Thursday before I did the damage in the 8km race I worked from 8 till 5 and then had work with a few footballers to do till 8pm. Grabbed a bit of food on the go around 6pm and went out and did a 10 mile run at 8.15pm with 7 miles at 5.50 pace. Had to be up early for work the next morning so didn't do much stretching, foam rolling as you should have. That was just 1 day but there were a good few like that in March.
I felt I had the training down to the right level and was taking my rest days but lack of sleep recovery and stretching caught up.
Had a good chat with lads on the tour re Dublin marathon...climate,course knowledge and pre race is much easier(better sleep,own food ect) all helps chances of running a PB over 1 of the marathon majors.
Haha...break it to her gently!!
Fair play tommy on the mile race, absolute torture that stuff is..lung bursting torture!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 30, 2014, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 30, 2014, 01:11:32 PM
Injured now, dont know when I'll be back running, and swimming is a long way off :(
Balls. Give us a shout if you need anything.
Cheers BM, ligament damage to the shoulder
Came off the bike Saturday, knocked out cold, concussion. X-ray showed up ligament damage from Saturday and from previously.
Am scheduled for a trip to an ortho guy in two weeks but went into the physio round the corner from me on Monday evening. He reckons 2-3 months before I'm back to full strength. Said I can do stationary bike this week and back to him next wednesday.
Exercises are arm curl with weight, straight arm extension (with terraband) and I'll call it horizontal arm curl with across my chest with weight.

My main race of the year is on May 24th so I need to be back swimming for that, could probably get by without any swim training in the meantime.

Another balls is that I was due to play in the charity gaa match next monday (https://www.facebook.com/CharityGAAMatch)

Disgusted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on April 30, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
My schedule at the minute is 5 times a week. 2 x easy run, 1 x very hilly fartlek, 1 x tempo and 1 x long run. I've only got up to 5 a week last week but that's what I have started with and hilly fartlek to either hill reps or trackwork will happen in next few weeks for me as well as the long and easy runs getting longer.

BM good to see you're still motivated. Age old problem that when we are going well we think we can just keep going and going - very easy to give advice to other people but really that's how I broke myself and how I know many others have broke too. The only thing I could say is learn from it but you do the right stuff so you'd be grand!

Going to try a mile race next week for something different as there's a big set of them on in Belfast to mark the sub 4 anniversary. I expect plenty of pain! It's open to all levels and there are several races for anyone interested.

Muppet stay disciplined with the heart rate stuff and the one step back won't come as soon as you think...


What date is this on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
May 6th Eddie D. Check out nirunning and it should have details on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

You are doing fine times so far with a dodgy knee!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

I have no idea as I haven't done it before and to be honest I'm half petrified by the thoughts of it. 850 spots this year but if you are planing to do it be aware that these spots are grabbed up in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 01, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

I have no idea as I haven't done it before and to be honest I'm half petrified by the thoughts of it. 850 spots this year but if you are planing to do it be aware that these spots are grabbed up in no time.

A friend of mine is mad to do this warriors run. We decided to either do it or the rathlin run this year but will probably go for the latter. It looks tough but no nastier than any mountain runs. A few clubmates of mine did it last year and did quite well in it.

CD I did Les Jones last year but not planning on it this year. I like the race but be warned it is notorious for having a hill at ~8k that will knock the stuffing out of you! (It's a left turn at shaws bridge to take you up to the dub)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 01, 2014, 07:22:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 01, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 01, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

I have no idea as I haven't done it before and to be honest I'm half petrified by the thoughts of it. 850 spots this year but if you are planing to do it be aware that these spots are grabbed up in no time.

A friend of mine is mad to do this warriors run. We decided to either do it or the rathlin run this year but will probably go for the latter. It looks tough but no nastier than any mountain runs. A few clubmates of mine did it last year and did quite well in it.

CD I did Les Jones last year but not planning on it this year. I like the race but be warned it is notorious for having a hill at ~8k that will knock the stuffing out of you! (It's a left turn at shaws bridge to take you up to the dub)

I think I know the hill! Doesn't look bad as you're driving past but I've discovered that can be very deceiving recently!! I'll throw my hat in for the Warrior run - I'll be in that part of the world when it's on so I may as well. Heard it was 4oeuro! A bit steep but at least it's a bit different. Rathlin could be plan B if I don't get in!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 01, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

You are doing fine times so far with a dodgy knee!!

Knee is seriously dodgy! Had two collapses recently but it hasn't locked! Have a Baker's Cyst that won't go away and need cartilage cleaned! Never fully recovered from ACL tear a few years back but feels better when I'm training. Any time I stop running for more than a couple of weeks the knee gets worse and then my back goes! Too much abuse on the football pitch to blame!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2014, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: CD on May 01, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

You are doing fine times so far with a dodgy knee!!

Knee is seriously dodgy! Had two collapses recently but it hasn't locked! Have a Baker's Cyst that won't go away and need cartilage cleaned! Never fully recovered from ACL tear a few years back but feels better when I'm training. Any time I stop running for more than a couple of weeks the knee gets worse and then my back goes! Too much abuse on the football pitch to blame!

Well it's a credit to ya, I'll not complain about my sore calf then lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 01, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: CD on May 01, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: CD on April 30, 2014, 07:49:31 PM
I like the sound of that Warrior's Run! If I'm going to train for something and bust myself, I may as well do something interesting! Anyone on here done it before? How would a dodgy knee behave on it?

Anyone doing Les Jones 10km at Mary Peters?

You are doing fine times so far with a dodgy knee!!

Knee is seriously dodgy! Had two collapses recently but it hasn't locked! Have a Baker's Cyst that won't go away and need cartilage cleaned! Never fully recovered from ACL tear a few years back but feels better when I'm training. Any time I stop running for more than a couple of weeks the knee gets worse and then my back goes! Too much abuse on the football pitch to blame!

I got one of these when I started and it was the reason I failed my first go at C25K. It is still there but doesn't bother me, should I be getting rid of it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 01, 2014, 10:21:08 PM
Some of you lads run further in a month than I drive!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 05, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Well, that's the first ever marathon done. I'll write a bit more detail about it tomorrow as I'm going to head for a feed and a few pints here now when the legs start working again. I said on here a few months ago that my 2 targets this year are a 20 minute 5k and a 4 hour marathon. Well, the 4 hour marathon is now ticked off the list - just about! Crossed the line bang on 3:59! The pints today are well earned!

How'd anyone else do?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 05, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
Brilliant!! How are you feeling after it?
Mr Rois came in around your time, think he was 3.52 or so. I was standing at a couple of different points and wore a Club Tyrone coat so had a few shouts from Tyrone runners along the route.

Such an emotional day. I hope you are very proud of yourself because you should be!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on May 05, 2014, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 05, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Well, that's the first ever marathon done. I'll write a bit more detail about it tomorrow as I'm going to head for a feed and a few pints here now when the legs start working again. I said on here a few months ago that my 2 targets this year are a 20 minute 5k and a 4 hour marathon. Well, the 4 hour marathon is now ticked off the list - just about! Crossed the line bang on 3:59! The pints today are well earned!

How'd anyone else do?

Fair play to you. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 05, 2014, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 05, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
Brilliant!! How are you feeling after it?
Mr Rois came in around your time, think he was 3.52 or so. I was standing at a couple of different points and wore a Club Tyrone coat so had a few shouts from Tyrone runners along the route.

Such an emotional day. I hope you are very proud of yourself because you should be!

Haha, I've a notion I let a road at you then! On the Antrim road?


Left big toe is in bad enough shape but not too bad other than than. Legs were very stiff afterwards but a bath has sorted them out a bit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 05, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
Yep, just at the Lansdowne  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 05, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 05, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
Yep, just at the Lansdowne  :)

Apologies for shouting at you then
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 05, 2014, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 05, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Well, that's the first ever marathon done. I'll write a bit more detail about it tomorrow as I'm going to head for a feed and a few pints here now when the legs start working again. I said on here a few months ago that my 2 targets this year are a 20 minute 5k and a 4 hour marathon. Well, the 4 hour marathon is now ticked off the list - just about! Crossed the line bang on 3:59! The pints today are well earned!

How'd anyone else do?
Congrats, savage pacing to get it bang on your target.mighty achievement, you are a marathoner!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
Well done typ. Was out watching and was wet/ windy enough in places!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 05, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
Thanks to all the runners who shouted "Fore!" as I putted on the ninth green. How original, lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 06, 2014, 09:27:56 AM
Fair play and congrats TYP. Super running.

Look forward to you report on the day.

I'm sure you are feeling it today but its a good sort of pain!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 06, 2014, 10:02:03 AM
Fair play TYP thats great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 06, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
Thanks everyone for the good wishes. As promised here's a bit of an update on the marathon.

I started training just before new year with a 2 mile run. The furthest I'd ran before was about 8 mile or so but that would have been on a treadmill so getting out onto the roads was new to me. I took a plan off the internet and tailored it to suit me – there were long runs I had to move around to fit in stags and weddings but pretty much kept the structure of the plan.

I'd love to say I stuck to the plan but I didn't. I never missed a long run but did miss quite a few recovery runs. I also found it difficult sticking to a slower pace – on most of my runs I was going faster than I planned to run the marathon. If I were ever to do another marathon that's one thing I would force myself to fix. My longest training run was 20 miles. I went to do 22 miles the following week (actually just 5 days later) and I had to stop at 15 miles – I had zero energy left. That was my last long run so it put a lot of doubt in my mind.

Over this past weekend I loaded up on a lot of pasta. I got an early night on Sunday and slept like a log! Got up at 6am on Monday morning to get some breakfast and headed into the city centre at 8.15 or so with a friend of mine I was running it with (just as the rain started). I thought we'd be very far back with a planned time of 4 hours but was amazed how close to the front we were actually starting from. It took about 30 seconds to cross the start line. There were 3 four hour pacers so the plan was to stick with them if we could.

By the time we were starting the rain had stopped. We headed out towards east Belfast and a few hundred yards in two things happened – the lady who ended up winning the women's marathon came sprinting past on the footpath (apparently there was some mix up and she wasn't up at the front for the start) and some fella fell opposite the entrance to House of Fraser – a couple of hundred yards in and he went down with some force!

Anyway, we got the first few miles over us and turned to come back in the Sydenham bypass. Still no rain and the wind wasn't too much of an issue. The stretch from there back into town was boring enough but we were in good shape so were chatting away to people round us. It was one of the pacers' 50th marathon!! We came back into Belfast and got to the first relay changeover – what a disorganised load of balls!! We were nearly slowed to a walk – people were crowding in and there was no space to run. Then people were stopping dead in front of you when they found who they were looking for.

We got through town and headed up the falls – that was the start of about 7 miles of gradual uphill climbing until the top of the Antrim Road. I'd covered all of that on training runs so at least I knew what to expect.  As we came out from Clonard and rounded into Lanark Way some woman shouted "Keep going, the wee Kenyans are just round the next corner" – that got a good laugh out of everyone. It wasn't too much further to the next changeover and it was almost as bad as the first one.

We came round to Westland Road which is 10 or 11 miles and that's when I realised how most people are just simply really nice. People had stands up outside their houses with oranges, sweets, bananas, water, etc... One woman had a sign with an arrow pointing in towards her house with "You can use my toilet" written on it. My wife then met me at the junction of Cavehill Road with a lucozade sport and a few energy gels – we were about 40 seconds ahead of the 4 hour pacers at that point. We turned into the Antrim Road and things were still good – pace was fine and I didn't feel too tired yet. There's a bar on the Antrim Road called the Chester – they were giving out free half pints of Guinness to people running – I couldn't get my head around that. Just after the Chester was when the rain really started. The whole way up the rest of the road it pissed down – my clothes started feeling a lot heavier and my socks were soaking!! A few colleagues from work were on the Antrim Road and they gave us a bit of a boost to keep going.

As we got up to the top of the hill there were a few funny signs – "It's all downhill after the next corner", "You're looking good random stranger" and the Riverrock one saying "it's just a hill, get over it". Having spent about an hour of constant uphill it's a bit of a shock to the system to turn the corner and see a massive downhill. In some ways it's almost as difficult on the downhill wet surface.

I had organised in my head where I would eat all the energy gels. That went out the window when I came down past the abbey centre – they were giving them out for free so I took two and started eating them a bit more than I'd planned. We got down to the Shore Road at about 16 miles and that's when I started to struggle. We came past the next changeover at just under 17 miles and it was perfectly organised – the relay people were split off from the marathon runners so it couldn't have been better.

The next two miles were in the towpath along the M5. It's very open to the elements and was like a wind corridor with the wind right in our faces. There's also no support whatsoever apart from people on the motorway blowing horns as they went past. We came up off the towpath at Dargan Road and there was a big crowd there cheering us on. Having said that we were still in the middle of an industrial estate so it wasn't as busy as the residential areas.

Another few miles brought us to the last changeover and another gel station – lifted another 2 gels and ate 1 straight away. This changeover was at Corporation Street and was perfect as well – i think it helped that the runners were a lot more spread out by this time. We were now down to 4 miles to go and my wife was going to be at the Ormeau Road so had only 2 miles to get to that.

We were back onto the towpath at central station for another mile and the boredom and wind started to take over again. I was really struggling at this point but I knew I only had a mile until I'd see my wife and then only had 2 miles left in total. The 4 hour pacers had passed us at that point and we couldn't stay with them – was starting to panic but if we could finish on 9.5 minute miles I thought we would make it. We got to the end of the towpath and the crowds were great – saw my wife and some other family and mates - got a big cheer there and that pushed us on a bit.

We passed 24 miles at the bottom of the Ormeau Road. Looking up that hill was so daunting – it was slow going but again the people were great. People of all ages were giving out fruit again, sweets, etc. There was a full on party outside the Parador and a fella with a microphone was shouting out encouragement and people's numbers. We somehow got to the top of the Ormeau Road and turned the corner onto the Ravenhill Road. I was calculating what we needed to make it in 4 hours and it was looking like we were going to struggle. Brute ignorance took over at that point and we picked it up a bit. We did the next mile in just over 8 minutes – round about a minute above average.

We turned into the embankment and the crowds were great – so many people shouting encouragement. There was a group of us then aiming for 4 hours and we all helped each other for the last bit. We passed 26 miles and could see the finish line in Ormeau Park – I started seeing a few mates who had came to see us and they all seemed to be spread out perfectly to cheers us on.

We crossed the line at 3 hours 59 minutes 16 seconds – the chip time was about 30 seconds faster than that. We hugged each other more to hold each other up than anything else but what a relief it was to finish. Went and got the medal and pack they give you and met all the family. I headed off home for a bath and went out for a feed and a few pints. Still in recovery mode today – the muscles are recovering well but one of my toes is in agony.

As soon as I finished I said I would never do that again. This morning I said I'd love to do a leg next year just to be involved. Who knows what I'll be saying tomorrow!

Finally, just want to say thanks to ballinaman, imtommygunn, bingo and all the lads who've been very good with advice on training, etc.. over the last few months – it's all appreciated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 06, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
Excellent report TYP. Fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 06, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
Great read TYP, mighty finish to get in under the 4hrs, takes a lot to pick up the pace at that stage of a marathon. The pints where well earned.

You'll be back  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Good man TYP glad some of the stuff I posted could be of some help- great report!

There is a good atmosphere round belfast but they need to sort the course out - it's shocking - and get plastic bottles for water. Going out to newtownabbey and back in a towpath is ridiculous. I think you could do dublin a bit faster again - I'll bet you do another one too!

The mind forgets pain so you will forget about the tough parts and do another one I bet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
Well done TYP, hmmmm might have a look at Dublin sometime. Hate my competitive streak sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: majestic on May 06, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
Hi

First time poster here, but I have been having real problems with my shins not the bone, the muscle running down the outside of the leg. After about 5 minutes running the pain becomes unbearable, and ill have to rest to let the pain subside and start again. I have also noticed that I have very limited movement of my feet because of the pain. I've seen a number of physios over the years and most have said shin splints. I have also gone to a podiatrist and have the insoles and Ive been wearing them for three years now. But I'm still getting the pain.

The latest physio I have seen mentioned something called compartment syndrome, he is recommending I see a surgeon about an operation to help with it. Has anyone ever heard about this or suffered from similar? I'm just trying to learn more about the condition.

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hi Majestic BM is a physio so he could comment better and take this with a pinch of salt!

Compartment syndrome, as I'm sure you're aware, isn't a great injury to have unfortunately. I know of one girl who runs for one of the clubs in Belfast who had it, had an operation and is back running competitively again so it can be recovered from. It's something physios seem reluctant to diagnose and it is quite hard to diagnose.

A running buddy of mine has missed a few years and was misdiagnosed with it. He went to Manchester I think for tests and they reckon it's not compartment syndrome. They were going to go down the road of testing him for it but seemed conclusive enough over there to decide he hadn't got it. Tests would entail rods being inserted into your calves to measure pressure which doesn't sound pleasant but would at least give some hope as to what it is.

About all I know about it is that plus bits and pieces I've read on google which I'm sure you've read yourself. Like I say it's hard to diagnose - with my mate just because they couldn't find what was up they reverted to compartment syndrome but it has been ruled out.

Have you been through all the stretching and strengthening routines you can get and do you get deep massage on it?  Compartment syndrome would be what you want as a last resort so if you're down surgery routes etc first make sure you've been to the right people...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 06, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hi Majestic BM is a physio so he could comment better and take this with a pinch of salt!

Compartment syndrome, as I'm sure you're aware, isn't a great injury to have unfortunately. I know of one girl who runs for one of the clubs in Belfast who had it, had an operation and is back running competitively again so it can be recovered from. It's something physios seem reluctant to diagnose and it is quite hard to diagnose.

A running buddy of mine has missed a few years and was misdiagnosed with it. He went to Manchester I think for tests and they reckon it's not compartment syndrome. They were going to go down the road of testing him for it but seemed conclusive enough over there to decide he hadn't got it. Tests would entail rods being inserted into your calves to measure pressure which doesn't sound pleasant but would at least give some hope as to what it is.

About all I know about it is that plus bits and pieces I've read on google which I'm sure you've read yourself. Like I say it's hard to diagnose - with my mate just because they couldn't find what was up they reverted to compartment syndrome but it has been ruled out.

Have you been through all the stretching and strengthening routines you can get and do you get deep massage on it?  Compartment syndrome would be what you want as a last resort so if you're down surgery routes etc first make sure you've been to the right people...
Sound advice as usual from tommy.
3 years of conservative treatment with no pain let up sounds like it could be more  down the lines of compartment syndrome.
Now is a time to be really diligent with rehab and exercises provided if you haven''t been so. Say to yourself, right I'm going to give this my absolute best shot for 1 month...if it's still sore then I would look at the orthopedic route ,your pain will be resolved one way or another though so don't get down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 06, 2014, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: majestic on May 06, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
Hi

First time poster here, but I have been having real problems with my shins not the bone, the muscle running down the outside of the leg. After about 5 minutes running the pain becomes unbearable, and ill have to rest to let the pain subside and start again. I have also noticed that I have very limited movement of my feet because of the pain. I've seen a number of physios over the years and most have said shin splints. I have also gone to a podiatrist and have the insoles and Ive been wearing them for three years now. But I'm still getting the pain.

The latest physio I have seen mentioned something called compartment syndrome, he is recommending I see a surgeon about an operation to help with it. Has anyone ever heard about this or suffered from similar? I'm just trying to learn more about the condition.

Thanks

That sounds exactly like the injury I got and had to give up competitive running. The cause was a slight curvature in my back, which meant a tilted pelvis, which meant using one leg more that the oter, which caused the injury.

Take up cycling and swimming.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Stall the Bailer on May 06, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Anybody for doing the first Strabane Lifford Half Marathon this weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 06, 2014, 07:52:07 PM
TYP - brilliant review of yer Belfast Marathon - what an achievement. Mrs CD and I were at our usual Cheering Spot by Cherryvale with the kids screaming and clapping and getting soaked! You'd put me in the form for doing it myself next year although I did promise I'd never do another one! Hope you enjoyed the pints after.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
5:02 for the mile... Not too bad considering only back towards full training though frustrating to just miss the 5!

Track racing is a different world to the marathons and 10ks!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on May 06, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
5:02 for the mile... Not too bad considering only back towards full training though frustrating to just miss the 5!

Track racing is a different world to the marathons and 10ks!

Class time..is it different in a good or bad way? are you referring to time?


Also has anyone done the Dingle marathon/ultra?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Lactic acid Eddie, you want to move the legs but they won't move...

Boy in the club doing Dingle. It's a hilly enough one so I'm told so wouldn't expect a PB but I'd say it'd be a great one to do with scenery etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 07, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
5:02 for the mile... Not too bad considering only back towards full training though frustrating to just miss the 5!

Track racing is a different world to the marathons and 10ks!

Whats your 5k time?
According to McMillan it should be 17.28 based on that  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
16:45 last April but wouldn't be as fit at the minute.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Good man TYP glad some of the stuff I posted could be of some help- great report!

There is a good atmosphere round belfast but they need to sort the course out - it's shocking - and get plastic bottles for water. Going out to newtownabbey and back in a towpath is ridiculous. I think you could do dublin a bit faster again - I'll bet you do another one too!

The mind forgets pain so you will forget about the tough parts and do another one I bet!

Thanks everyone. I'd agree with you on the towpath - it's very narrow and you have relay runners thinking they're superman pushing past you as the towpath starts straight after the changeover. Some knob (if you happen to be reading this, your name is Chrissy and it was written on the back of your t-shirt) ran past us banging into everyone. He was walking when we passed him about two miles later round about the Pumphouse cafe on Duncrue Road.

They'd need to organise the first couple of changeovers a bit better and I agree about bottles of water. I had people organised to give me bottles at various points but I tried to grab a cup of water at one point - I spilt most of it round me, sipped a tiny bit and threw the rest away in frustration. Someone was saying they can't use bottles without completely closing all the roads that the marathon is on and the participant numbers don't justify that - not sure who it was that said it though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 07, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Good man TYP glad some of the stuff I posted could be of some help- great report!

There is a good atmosphere round belfast but they need to sort the course out - it's shocking - and get plastic bottles for water. Going out to newtownabbey and back in a towpath is ridiculous. I think you could do dublin a bit faster again - I'll bet you do another one too!

The mind forgets pain so you will forget about the tough parts and do another one I bet!

Thanks everyone. I'd agree with you on the towpath - it's very narrow and you have relay runners thinking they're superman pushing past you as the towpath starts straight after the changeover. Some knob (if you happen to be reading this, your name is Chrissy and it was written on the back of your t-shirt) ran past us banging into everyone. He was walking when we passed him about two miles later round about the Pumphouse cafe on Duncrue Road.

They'd need to organise the first couple of changeovers a bit better and I agree about bottles of water. I had people organised to give me bottles at various points but I tried to grab a cup of water at one point - I spilt most of it round me, sipped a tiny bit and threw the rest away in frustration. Someone was saying they can't use bottles without completely closing all the roads that the marathon is on and the participant numbers don't justify that - not sure who it was that said it though

Isn't the Belfast marathon sponsored by Deep River Rock too??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 07, 2014, 12:51:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
5:02 for the mile... Not too bad considering only back towards full training though frustrating to just miss the 5!

Track racing is a different world to the marathons and 10ks!

Fair play, that's tight moving.

We've recently got organised and registered and are an official AC now, Blayney Rockets AC. Been talking about a few events to run and do, must suggest a Mile trial some evening. Would be interesting to do it.

I'd a decent week last week. 5 days out of seven with a real good 10 miler on Saturday. Raced a 5km on sunday then and was happy to finish in 19.30. Legs felt heavy having run Friday and Saturday but held together well to finish in best 5km time of the year. They are a real lung buster though, very hard to enjoy them until they are over!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 07, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Good man TYP glad some of the stuff I posted could be of some help- great report!

There is a good atmosphere round belfast but they need to sort the course out - it's shocking - and get plastic bottles for water. Going out to newtownabbey and back in a towpath is ridiculous. I think you could do dublin a bit faster again - I'll bet you do another one too!

The mind forgets pain so you will forget about the tough parts and do another one I bet!

Thanks everyone. I'd agree with you on the towpath - it's very narrow and you have relay runners thinking they're superman pushing past you as the towpath starts straight after the changeover. Some knob (if you happen to be reading this, your name is Chrissy and it was written on the back of your t-shirt) ran past us banging into everyone. He was walking when we passed him about two miles later round about the Pumphouse cafe on Duncrue Road.

They'd need to organise the first couple of changeovers a bit better and I agree about bottles of water. I had people organised to give me bottles at various points but I tried to grab a cup of water at one point - I spilt most of it round me, sipped a tiny bit and threw the rest away in frustration. Someone was saying they can't use bottles without completely closing all the roads that the marathon is on and the participant numbers don't justify that - not sure who it was that said it though

Isn't the Belfast marathon sponsored by Deep River Rock too??

It is yeah. The first bottle of their water I saw was at the finish line!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2014, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 07, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 07, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Good man TYP glad some of the stuff I posted could be of some help- great report!

There is a good atmosphere round belfast but they need to sort the course out - it's shocking - and get plastic bottles for water. Going out to newtownabbey and back in a towpath is ridiculous. I think you could do dublin a bit faster again - I'll bet you do another one too!

The mind forgets pain so you will forget about the tough parts and do another one I bet!

Thanks everyone. I'd agree with you on the towpath - it's very narrow and you have relay runners thinking they're superman pushing past you as the towpath starts straight after the changeover. Some knob (if you happen to be reading this, your name is Chrissy and it was written on the back of your t-shirt) ran past us banging into everyone. He was walking when we passed him about two miles later round about the Pumphouse cafe on Duncrue Road.

They'd need to organise the first couple of changeovers a bit better and I agree about bottles of water. I had people organised to give me bottles at various points but I tried to grab a cup of water at one point - I spilt most of it round me, sipped a tiny bit and threw the rest away in frustration. Someone was saying they can't use bottles without completely closing all the roads that the marathon is on and the participant numbers don't justify that - not sure who it was that said it though

Isn't the Belfast marathon sponsored by Deep River Rock too??

It is yeah. The first bottle of their water I saw was at the finish line!

I think you're right on the bottles and the closing roads. The route is shocking and the bottled water thing is poor too but you can only change something and make it better it you actually care and want to do that and the organisers of the belfast marathon do not seem to want to make it better.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 07, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
Great stuff TYP, enjoyed reading your account of the marathon. Just in awe of you guys who complete that distance. Awesome.

Muppet - you are flying man. Need to get my sh1t together and get the heart rate monitor. Haven't really made an assault on my 5k pb but going to have a few cracks in May/June. I thought in January that 25 mins was beyond my compass but now I'm hopeful. Ran a nice 10k on Monday. Was supposed to be a long, slow run but I gave in to temptation during the run! I worked out after around 6-7k what I'd have to do to break the hour and went for it (succeeded - 59.40)! Only a minute slower than I did in Bundoran and I felt great after this one, could have kept going for a few more miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 07, 2014, 03:16:38 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 07, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
Great stuff TYP, enjoyed reading your account of the marathon. Just in awe of you guys who complete that distance. Awesome.

Muppet - you are flying man. Need to get my sh1t together and get the heart rate monitor. Haven't really made an assault on my 5k pb but going to have a few cracks in May/June. I thought in January that 25 mins was beyond my compass but now I'm hopeful. Ran a nice 10k on Monday. Was supposed to be a long, slow run but I gave in to temptation during the run! I worked out after around 6-7k what I'd have to do to break the hour and went for it (succeeded - 59.40)! Only a minute slower than I did in Bundoran and I felt great after this one, could have kept going for a few more miles.

This keeps happening, it is very hard to stay slow especially when you are feeling really good about yourself and think of running longer or faster. But it certainly seems to be the key to improving overall.

Amazing Seanie that on a 'slow' run you break the hour for 10k and still feel like running on. But you are another confirmation of the merits of the training outlined by ITG earlier on the thread.

Incidentally I tried consecutive days running for the first time. I did a 'hard' run first, for the time mentioned above and then a very easy 5k, which took about 45 minutes, with the HR kept below 140. I could have gone on at that slow pace but I had to go to work.

I was smiling at TYP saying he had worked out the pace needed to get under 4 hours. Seanie obviously does the same: "I worked out after around 6-7k what I'd have to do to break the hour". Not only does your fitness improve but your mental arithmetic as well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 07, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Does this count as breaking 25 for 5k?
Speaking of threadmills.... I was thinking of buying one. Finding it very difficult to get time to go running at the moment and I'm nervous I won't be able do the full training plan for the Marathon.
I wouldnt be planning on just using a threadmill as I love running outside but I thought it be handy for nights I can't get out.
I'm getting a new shed for house and would have plenty of room for a threadmill in it.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 07, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
Stop being a lazy bollix and get out  ;)

An hour run on the threadmill takes the same length as the hour outside
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 07, 2014, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Does this count as breaking 25 for 5k?
Speaking of threadmills.... I was thinking of buying one. Finding it very difficult to get time to go running at the moment and I'm nervous I won't be able do the full training plan for the Marathon.
I wouldnt be planning on just using a threadmill as I love running outside but I thought it be handy for nights I can't get out.
I'm getting a new shed for house and would have plenty of room for a threadmill in it.
Thoughts?

First question: I don't know. I want to back it up with a proper run before I claim I did it.

As for the treadmill: Personally I find it a bit more difficult on the treadmill but there are many advantages. You can really control your pace accurately without any unpredictable distractions such as traffic, dogs, weather and people asking for directions (it is amazing this happens to someone on a run). You can also do the recovery/tempo runs properly as they usually have a heart monitor. And while running with your hands on the monitor is annoying you only really need to do it now and again. There are also great functions on treadmills such as adjusting the gradient automatically to maintain an exact heart rate without changing the pace. So you can for example decide to run 10k recovery run, in say 'x' minutes, the treadmill will keep the pace steady and adjust the gradient to keep your heart rate below/above whatever threshold you want.

You would miss the cool breeze of the outdoors though as gyms are usually quite warm and stuffy and I definitely sweat more indoors.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on May 07, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Lactic acid Eddie, you want to move the legs but they won't move...

Boy in the club doing Dingle. It's a hilly enough one so I'm told so wouldn't expect a PB but I'd say it'd be a great one to do with scenery etc.

Dead on. Considering doing it for the scenery etc, looks like a great location for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 07, 2014, 08:34:44 PM
I know a few of you lads on the 'running' thread frequent the 'books' thread as well. I'm in the midst of reading 'Tick, Tock, Ten' by Gerry Duffy http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tick-Tock-TEN-Compelling-Challenges/dp/0957207239 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tick-Tock-TEN-Compelling-Challenges/dp/0957207239)
It's not my usual cup of tea but I haven't been able to put it down over the past couple of nights. Brilliant read and definitely of interest to any runner no matter what your ability. An inspirational character.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 08, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.
Still at the couch stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 08, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.

I failed the first 3 goes at C25K.

Reading yourself and Seanie, in particular, and the others as well was a good boot up the arse motivation-wise.

But ITG has opened the floodgates altogether with some advice on training properly.

The scary thing is the time flew today.

My BMI was around 29.9 at one stage so it was definitely time to do something. Still just over 27 so a way to go yet, and I am not getting taller.

How is the training for the marathon going, after the new arrival?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.

Couch 2 5K will be tough for Tony

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608044047857421235&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 07:08:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.

I failed the first 3 goes at C25K.

Reading yourself and Seanie, in particular, and the others as well was a good boot up the arse motivation-wise.

But ITG has opened the floodgates altogether with some advice on training properly.

The scary thing is the time flew today.

My BMI was around 29.9 at one stage so it was definitely time to do something. Still just over 27 so a way to go yet, and I am not getting taller.

How is the training for the marathon going, after the new arrival?
I'm not doing any running at the moment. Work is mental and the new arrival is certainly taking up a lot of time.
I'm giving myself a day off tomorrow so gonna head to Phoenix Park for a run.
Marathon training won't start in earnest til mid June.
Definitely think I'll buy a threadmill. I see Elverys have a few in stock at reasonable enough prices.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 08, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
My recovery run today around Malahide Castle was supposed to be a 10k but I felt great so went past 15k (1:37:02) and finished at 16.25kms (4 laps). I am still running a bit too fast, which feels like a ludicrous thing to say given the results.


If you think my account has been hacked you are probably right. Either that or I need a new iPhone.
I'm taking credit for this as I shamed you into doing  couch 2 5k!! Time for Tony Baloney to start now.
Fair play to you.

Couch 2 5K will be tough for Tony

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608044047857421235&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)
I'll get one of those motorised couches.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2014, 07:19:51 PM
 For people average height (thats me out :P) you really want a running deck that is at least 52 inches long to allow for a full runners stride pattern.

A further consideration is that running is not a low impact activity. Whilst treadmills suitable for walking exercises might not need to have a cushioned deck if you are going to be pounding away at pace, a cushioned deck would be a good option to choose.

Also a good motor required as some are shite, and an incline option needed I'd say, how much are they going for? £300
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
I don't understand foreign money.... ;)
There is one for €599
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on May 08, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
I don't understand foreign money.... ;)
There is one for €599

One thing to watch out for LL, is switching between the threadmill and the road is a bastard for the shin splints....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 08, 2014, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 08, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
I don't understand foreign money.... ;)
There is one for €599

One thing to watch out for LL, is switching between the threadmill and the road is a b**tard for the shin splints....

Really?

Do you mean using one for a period of time and then switching, or switching back and forward regularly?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 08, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
Muppet - I just have to hand it to you. You are kicking ass. I think I really need to knuckle down to a structured training plan if I'm going to improve rather than just doing whatever time constraints allow. For example, last night I didn't have a lot of time so decided to blast out a quick 3 mile run. Bad idea. Legs were still heavy from the 10k I did Monday so only ended up pissing myself off. I should probably have done a recovery run though again I'm not sure when (day after or two days after) or what exactly that is.

They say that for the Warriors Run your 10 mile road time is a good indicator of how you'll end up in the Warriors. Are you still thinking of doing it? Registration is Wednesday week in Strandhill oe the following day online and places go very quickly.

Doing the Pieta House 5k 4.15am Saturday morning. Love the concept and hope to make inroads on my PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 09, 2014, 08:36:44 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 08, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
Muppet - I just have to hand it to you. You are kicking ass. I think I really need to knuckle down to a structured training plan if I'm going to improve rather than just doing whatever time constraints allow. For example, last night I didn't have a lot of time so decided to blast out a quick 3 mile run. Bad idea. Legs were still heavy from the 10k I did Monday so only ended up pissing myself off. I should probably have done a recovery run though again I'm not sure when (day after or two days after) or what exactly that is.

They say that for the Warriors Run your 10 mile road time is a good indicator of how you'll end up in the Warriors. Are you still thinking of doing it? Registration is Wednesday week in Strandhill oe the following day online and places go very quickly.

Doing the Pieta House 5k 4.15am Saturday morning. Love the concept and hope to make inroads on my PB.

I think I should do a straight forward run first before tackling something like the warrior run. I feel as if I might be deluding myself so I need to prove myself in a properly organised run. If that goes along the lines of recent training I might get a bit braver.

I was looking back at this post and thinking what some proper advice can do for you. Great thread overall.

Quote from: muppet on April 15, 2014, 12:04:01 AM
What's the story with heart rate?

I am trying to run 3 x 15 minutes on the way from stepping up from 5k to 10k at around 10km/hr pace and struggling.

If 220 minus my age is maximum heat rate, then I am running at 12 over my maximum. I am not in distress at this rate but just can't keep it up for more than 5 minutes. Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 09, 2014, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 08, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
Muppet - I just have to hand it to you. You are kicking ass. I think I really need to knuckle down to a structured training plan if I'm going to improve rather than just doing whatever time constraints allow. For example, last night I didn't have a lot of time so decided to blast out a quick 3 mile run. Bad idea. Legs were still heavy from the 10k I did Monday so only ended up pissing myself off. I should probably have done a recovery run though again I'm not sure when (day after or two days after) or what exactly that is.

They say that for the Warriors Run your 10 mile road time is a good indicator of how you'll end up in the Warriors. Are you still thinking of doing it? Registration is Wednesday week in Strandhill oe the following day online and places go very quickly.

Doing the Pieta House 5k 4.15am Saturday morning. Love the concept and hope to make inroads on my PB.

If you can commit to a structured plan, you will feel it benefit it you no end. Try to fit it in to finish with a planned run.

I'd generally run a recovery run the day after a run and it would be a very easy run. Some of the plans I've done might have a set of strides at the end of the recovery run. These would be 6/8 80-100m sprints which help speed but the real focus is to maintain a good running form. Recover between the strides with a very slow jog of same distance. If I've run a very hard run - distance or pace - I'd recover with a walk or cycle the next day.

Some days the legs just don't want to run. Went out for the usual Friday run this morning - 11km route. Knew after about 500m it was going to be a struggle and I was working from the start. Was a fair pace but one I'd normally manage with. Was dropped by the two other lads after about 8km and trailed home after them. Heavy legged and lacking energy, poor sleep and two weeks with a lot of miles likely caught up. Will likely rest tomorrow rather than the planned run and do the longer run on Sunday but ease up on the pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 09, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.

Did anyone ever hear of this? It seems a little bonkers but could be good craic. I know I can run 8k, probably even 16k, but could I do 32k in 24 hours?

http://www.sionnachrelay.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 09, 2014, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 09, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.

Did anyone ever hear of this? It seems a little bonkers but could be good craic. I know I can run 8k, probably even 16k, but could I do 32k in 24 hours?

http://www.sionnachrelay.com/

Looked at it before alright and is a very interesting concept. There would be a few 24/48 hours races in Ireland but they'd focus on individuals.

I'm sure that the concept is taken from Japan and the Ekiden runs that they seem to thrive in. They are basically long distance relay races which can take place over distances rather than hours/days. Its very competitive there.

I think it would be good to do, something different. With rest, training, recovery and feeding between runs, I'd say you be fit for it. Like all running, it will depend on fast anyone would like to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 09, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
Just back from the Phoenix Park after my first run in a few weeks. Feels great to be back at it.
Only done 6k and it was a bit of a struggle but feel great now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 09, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 09, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
Just back from the Phoenix Park after my first run in a few weeks. Feels great to be back at it.
Only done 6k and it was a bit of a struggle but feel great now.

Good man, a busy couple of weeks for you and the clan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 09, 2014, 03:01:10 PM

Anybody else doing the River Moy 1/2 on the 17th May?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on May 09, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
I posted a bit in here back in January/February when I started training for the Belfast Marathon and I just wanted to throw a quick comment in to say thanks for all the help and advice.  I had a read almost everyday and more than anything, I benefited from just reading everyone else's posts regarding training, nutrition and experiences and I didn't need to ask too much, so thanks.  I'd a tough enough time with training when it started to matter around the longer runs.  Had to take a 3 week break of complete rest in March when I tweaked my Achilles which meant missing out on long runs of 16, 17 and 18.  Came back in with 4 weeks to go and ran a 15, then a 20 the week after which was brutal.  Was fitting in hurling training too since January and think I was just doing too much.  Was lucky to get one rest day a week. 

Managed to come in at 3:46:46 so absolutely over the moon.  My aim was 4 hours so I am still delighted about it.  I agree with a lot of what TYP said in his brilliant round up a few pages back.  Relay change overs at the beginning were crazy, the tow path in along the M2 was horrific and the people on the streets are brilliant.  Miles 17-22 were the toughest for sure.  I was able to lift it back up a bit on adrenaline for the last couple of miles with the people on the streets again and the brilliant atmosphere.  Said during the last 9 miles that I would never, ever do another marathon and I meant it more than ever right afterwards too - though I think I am slowly coming round to the idea of it again, though I think I would only enter if I knew I'd a great chance of beating my time so timing and training would probably need to suit.  Just too competitive with myself. 

Fantastic experience and I made a new best friend..my foam roller! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 10, 2014, 12:53:21 AM
Brilliant - well done. At the time you did I'm sure I'd have clapped you.past on the Antrim Rd at the Lansdowne and as you came off the dreaded foreshore path. Great time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 10, 2014, 06:25:25 AM
Did the Pieta House Darkness into Light 5k there in Sligo. Lovely route and very well organised - credit to St Mary's GAA club and all who helped. Super atmosphere and just before the off the rain stopped and conditions were gorgeous. Aimed to cut a nice lump off my PB of 26:50 and did just that. 26:01 I made it for 5k (the course, which took me 26:48 was actually slightly longer than 5k) which is a good reduction in my PB. First mile downhill I went a little too fast (7:45) and really had to grind the last km, was on 25:30 pace at 4k. All in all delighted as I didn't really have much of a warmup. Sub 25 has to be within my range some time soon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 10, 2014, 06:54:21 AM
Good man just puck it, I was certain there was someone else on here doing it. Great time as well - some going. I'm coming round as well - would love to do one in better weather and hopefully the improved time will come with that. Maybe next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 10, 2014, 08:05:33 AM
Well done Seanie & JPI, it is great motivation to read about that sort of stuff.

Running is a pretty solitary hobby so this thread is a Godsend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 10, 2014, 11:48:22 AM
Fair play Seanie, hard to beat the warm fuzzy feeling of a PB  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on May 10, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Started on the streets the last weekend in April and ran 4.2km in 29mins and 4.8km in 28mins.  Legs were stiff for a week so copped on a bit and slowed down.  Found it very hard to get a consistent pace plus dodging people and traffic in the city are annoying to do.  Went out again last weekend and ran 3.6km in 23mins and 6.2km in 38mins.  Not as stiff afterwards this time and found it easier to get the air in.  Normally I find that I get a stitch early when I run no matter the pace but it goes away soon enough.  Went out this morning and ran 7.3km in 46mins.  Felt very good after it with little to no stiffness and had it in my head that I could do more.  Hoping to be consistent on this for the week and then try and run 10km at the weekend.  Never got near that distance in my life before but I reckon it's doable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
Unreal Seanie to do a PB in a darkness into light race, crowds and early morning wouldn't lend to a quick time but might stuff!
Unfortunately not Moy, had it penciled in but am taking a break until June 16th..18 week schedule for Dublin starting then. Brilliant race though, would recommend it to anyone if they are around!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 10, 2014, 11:46:21 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on May 10, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Started on the streets the last weekend in April and ran 4.2km in 29mins and 4.8km in 28mins.  Legs were stiff for a week so copped on a bit and slowed down.  Found it very hard to get a consistent pace plus dodging people and traffic in the city are annoying to do.  Went out again last weekend and ran 3.6km in 23mins and 6.2km in 38mins.  Not as stiff afterwards this time and found it easier to get the air in.  Normally I find that I get a stitch early when I run no matter the pace but it goes away soon enough.  Went out this morning and ran 7.3km in 46mins.  Felt very good after it with little to no stiffness and had it in my head that I could do more.  Hoping to be consistent on this for the week and then try and run 10km at the weekend.  Never got near that distance in my life before but I reckon it's doable.

10k definitely doable with that 7.3k behind you. Good man, keep it up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on May 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
We'll done all, great motivation, to the point I have been embarrassed coming on to this thread for the past month or 2. Have been very slack since the 10k in March.

Finally got off my ass and out yesterday for a slow (tough) 11k. Started the Hal Higdon program for the Brisbane half on 3 August so hopefully that's me back on track! Today was stretching and strength only so handy day to get started, looking forward to getting back in to it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 11, 2014, 09:49:28 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
Unreal Seanie to do a PB in a darkness into light race, crowds and early morning wouldn't lend to a quick time but might stuff!
Unfortunately not Moy, had it penciled in but am taking a break until June 16th..18 week schedule for Dublin starting then. Brilliant race though, would recommend it to anyone if they are around!

Thanks BM. For good measure I played a full hour in a club junior match last evening. It was 13 a side too. Such a sleep I had last night!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on May 11, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 08, 2014, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 08, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 08, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
I don't understand foreign money.... ;)
There is one for €599

One thing to watch out for LL, is switching between the threadmill and the road is a b**tard for the shin splints....

Really?

Do you mean using one for a period of time and then switching, or switching back and forward regularly?

The problem is when you switch between one or the other, it has something to do with different shocks to the shin areas, I know one girl who stopped using the T.M completely and the condition cleared up completely
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.

I wouldn't even have the tenner to spare!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.

I wouldn't even have the tenner to spare!

sorry i meant my old mucker milltown.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2014, 09:50:36 PM
In 2 minds about the 10k in lisburn but will decide closer the time.

Good running seanie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 11, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
Have about 500km on current runners. I notice they are all worn down on the inside of the foot.
Reading about it on google it tells me that means I'm a over pronator.
Is anyone else like this and what running shoes do you wear?
Is this something I should try to fix or is it just they way it is and not worry about it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.

We'd need to have age and height brought into it, I'm a small old man ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.

We'd need to have age and height brought into it, I'm a small old man ;)

i was thinking you could give me a 10-12 min handicap, im a novice. plus im a fat fook.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 11, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: CD on May 11, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
Almost a sense of relief from posters on the board when they get out on a run, whether it goes well or not! The traffic on this thread is certainly growing which is great to see - more and more people getting out and getting moving. As well as the obvious physical benefits the knock on effects are fantastic. I've started thinking more and more about my diet, our mad house is now functioning like a well oiled machine as both Mrs CD and I try to organise our running around the wee ones (our four year old is mad to come with us), and I actually have way more energy. As a few lads have commented recently, it's really good for the head as well! Nothing feeds the soul like coming home after a tough 10mile or setting a PB at parkrun. Its all good!

Many thanks to the experts on here who constantly dole out great advice and tips and the motivational stories of your marathon endeavours!

Next in the pipeline for me is Les Jones 10k then Lisburn - still not sure if I'll tackle the 10k or the half marathon. Anyone else up for these two?

Looking to do the Lisburn half, calf injury at the moment and have Triathlon at end of month so need to have a look and see whats best. Probably settle for the 10k

I'm doing the lisburn 10k as well, race you for a tenner.

We'd need to have age and height brought into it, I'm a small old man ;)

i was thinking you could give me a 10-12 min handicap, im a novice. plus im a fat fook.

Bring Tony F and I'll make it £20 lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 12, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
Date for your Diary.

Our running club, Blayney Rockets AC, are hosting their first race on Saturday July 26th in Castleblayney, Co Monaghan. Its a 10 mile road race on a cracking route round Lough Muckno that we would run most Sundays.

Its a very fair route with no major hills in it. Will post more on it nearer the time but if anyone is looking a good run out in the summer, this is a good one! Put in in the diary  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on May 12, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 11, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
Have about 500km on current runners. I notice they are all worn down on the inside of the foot.
Reading about it on google it tells me that means I'm a over pronator.
Is anyone else like this and what running shoes do you wear?
Is this something I should try to fix or is it just they way it is and not worry about it?

Well LL, I have spoken to a lot of the army lads who do the bootcamp with us about runners, they very from Ultra lads to lads who do 80 plus marathons a year, they all say the same thing, stick with what you are used to, if you are staying injury free using your current brand, do not change them as you will upset your posture and cause injury....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2014, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 12, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 11, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
Have about 500km on current runners. I notice they are all worn down on the inside of the foot.
Reading about it on google it tells me that means I'm a over pronator.
Is anyone else like this and what running shoes do you wear?
Is this something I should try to fix or is it just they way it is and not worry about it?

Well LL, I have spoken to a lot of the army lads who do the bootcamp with us about runners, they very from Ultra lads to lads who do 80 plus marathons a year, they all say the same thing, stick with what you are used to, if you are staying injury free using your current brand, do not change them as you will upset your posture and cause injury....
Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 12, 2014, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.

Good man muppet. You'll be grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on May 12, 2014, 11:21:27 PM
Its been at least 2 yrs since I done any road running, last I done was a 10k and it was tough going more mental that psychical. I was in reasonable shape back then but have slipped badly. I am hitting the gym this week as I cant let get any worse. I would love to do a marathon but when I dobe the 10k it took me 45mins and only for the ipod suffle I would have went mad. Hope to people cope.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 12, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.
No bother to ya...you'll be grand..just think of getting to smack Pat McEaney for '96 as a prize in the last 2 miles when the pain starts..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 12, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.
No bother to ya...you'll be grand..just think of getting to smack Pat McEaney for '96 as a prize in the last 2 miles when the pain starts..

I'll be smacking him long before the last 2 miles!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 09:18:59 AM
Fair play muppet, no bother to you. Use the first 3km as a warm up and then race the last 5km like your normal 5km. You'll enjoy it no end.

The good old reliable, to now anyways, 205 has died a death. Tried a number of resets but the screen keeps going blank with any movement. Seems to have been a problem in the older models and any fixes are only a short term fix.

Likely get a new one and looking at the Garmin 220. Might even get the heart rate monitor version. Anyone use it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 13, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.

Thats a nice race muppet, I did it last year. Had planned on doing it this year but am off cycling for three days with race the ras, cant fecking wait!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.

That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM


That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.

I smell a gaaboard showdown in the brewing  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM


That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.

I smell a gaaboard showdown in the brewing  ;)  ;D

Yeah would be fun to get something that suits everybody, I was in Derry and missed the Carlingford one my next one might be thhe Lisburn Half be nice to meet up and have a deserved pint after running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 13, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 12, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Booked into this on sunday: http://terenure5mile.com (http://terenure5mile.com)

It is 2 miles longer than I would have liked for my 1st organised run, but all the 5k runs seem to be on saturdays.

Over the next few days will I add excuses to the above one.

But f*ck it, time to shit or get off the pot.

That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.

Sent you a PM Seanie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 14, 2014, 03:38:32 AM
Have been sidelined most of the year due to niggling injuries - calf, hip, back caused by poor posture (leaning forward while running) and flat feet.
Been focusing on core work at the gym and keeping the runs short but last Wed it was dull and drizzly here (a rarity for Perth) and I was home early from work, so I took the opportunity to up the distance.

Went out slower than I usually would, and planned on an 8.5k route, but was feeling really good coming close to home so I did a lap of the park to up it to 10k. Was too dark to keep an eye on the time, so I never realised what speed I was averaging, but I managed to come in at 63:55, which is the best I have done this year.
Hoping to run a 12k road race on 25 May, and on the back of this thread have bought a heart monitor.

Want to get back to, and beating my 10k PB of 57:55 by the end of the winter
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 14, 2014, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM


That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.

I smell a gaaboard showdown in the brewing  ;)  ;D

Yeah would be fun to get something that suits everybody, I was in Derry and missed the Carlingford one my next one might be thhe Lisburn Half be nice to meet up and have a deserved pint after running

Well ye can f**k right off if ye think we're travelling north again for all the nordies to be a no-show, meself and Ballinaman up there like eijits, although it did result in some unexpected silverware
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 14, 2014, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 14, 2014, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 12:12:05 PM


That looks a great race. Good luck with it. You'll be well able. My first 5k I have only ever run 4k and my first 10 k I had only run 8.4k so you'll be sound. You have ran twice this distance already!

Am in Dublin myself this weekend and might get to do that. Was looking for a run in Dublin and didn't notice this one.

I smell a gaaboard showdown in the brewing  ;)  ;D

Yeah would be fun to get something that suits everybody, I was in Derry and missed the Carlingford one my next one might be thhe Lisburn Half be nice to meet up and have a deserved pint after running

Well ye can f**k right off if ye think we're travelling north again for all the nordies to be a no-show, meself and Ballinaman up there like eijits, although it did result in some unexpected silverware

I was as guilty as anyone! In my defence I registered for the 10km and intended to go but the wedding the day before was too good  :D Even at 3.30am in the residents bar I was talking about a PB the next day.  :-\

I would suggest one of the race series runs in the build up to the Dublin marathon which are Dublin based. The 10km might give everyone a good run out and target.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
I plan on doing the Dublin race series also.
Might be a good one for a few of us to meet up alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 14, 2014, 11:54:24 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on May 14, 2014, 03:38:32 AM
Have been sidelined most of the year due to niggling injuries - calf, hip, back caused by poor posture (leaning forward while running) and flat feet.
Been focusing on core work at the gym and keeping the runs short but last Wed it was dull and drizzly here (a rarity for Perth) and I was home early from work, so I took the opportunity to up the distance.

Went out slower than I usually would, and planned on an 8.5k route, but was feeling really good coming close to home so I did a lap of the park to up it to 10k. Was too dark to keep an eye on the time, so I never realised what speed I was averaging, but I managed to come in at 63:55, which is the best I have done this year.
Hoping to run a 12k road race on 25 May, and on the back of this thread have bought a heart monitor.

Want to get back to, and beating my 10k PB of 57:55 by the end of the winter
Well done on getting back to the distance.  These heart rate monitors had better work  ;D (would help if I actually went out running though as have neglected it as I'm working away from home). 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.
Race shape! I'll just be happy to be in able to bend down to tie my running shoes shape.....!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 14, 2014, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on May 14, 2014, 03:38:32 AM
Have been sidelined most of the year due to niggling injuries - calf, hip, back caused by poor posture (leaning forward while running) and flat feet.
Been focusing on core work at the gym and keeping the runs short but last Wed it was dull and drizzly here (a rarity for Perth) and I was home early from work, so I took the opportunity to up the distance.

Went out slower than I usually would, and planned on an 8.5k route, but was feeling really good coming close to home so I did a lap of the park to up it to 10k. Was too dark to keep an eye on the time, so I never realised what speed I was averaging, but I managed to come in at 63:55, which is the best I have done this year.
Hoping to run a 12k road race on 25 May, and on the back of this thread have bought a heart monitor.

Want to get back to, and beating my 10k PB of 57:55 by the end of the winter

Good man. Running in the heat of Perth must be hard going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.
Race shape! I'll just be happy to be in able to bend down to tie my running shoes shape.....!

Lol. Once you get your treadmill be no stopping you sure.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 14, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.
Race shape! I'll just be happy to be in able to bend down to tie my running shoes shape.....!

Lol. Once you get your treadmill be no stopping you sure.

and he turns off these webcams  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 14, 2014, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.
10KM on July 20th sounds good.
Hope to be back training June 16th.
Achill half marathon on July 5th
10km July 20th
Longford half marathon August 24th
Another race in UK in september
Dublin marathon October 20th,

Race schedule done....always the easy part! ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 14, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
The 10km in July seems like a plan to me.

They've announced the new route for DCM this year. Had to change with LUAS works. No O'Connell st. Heads off towards St Stephens Green and stays on the outside heading to the park along the quays, then through the park on Chesterfield Av (long drag but early in run), out of park to Castleknock, back into park and then along much of the same route but ending is different, no Nassau Street.

Seems fairly ok and nice to know after Roebuck Hill/Clonskeagh that you are into the last few miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 14, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 14, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
5 miler on June 28th or 10k on July 20th in the Dublin series.

I wouldn't mind doing one of those as it's round the time I reckon I'll be back in race shape.
Race shape! I'll just be happy to be in able to bend down to tie my running shoes shape.....!

Lol. Once you get your treadmill be no stopping you sure.

and he turns off these webcams  ;)

Still undecided on getting a treadmill.
Made more time for myself this past week and have ran more miles than in the whole of the last month.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
Refereed a game tonight, ran 4.2 miles, what would the average club player run in a game
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 14, 2014, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
Refereed a game tonight, ran 4.2 miles, what would the average club player run in a game
Not sure about club but there is this.......


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnN4iCkCUAA_pkx.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 14, 2014, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
Refereed a game tonight, ran 4.2 miles, what would the average club player run in a game
Not sure about club but there is this.......


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnN4iCkCUAA_pkx.jpg)

Suppose that be close enough, could probably have ran more but it was a short a fecking pitch. That would be the county players I'd imagine
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 16, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 16, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
Whats the nature of seminar? Injury related or training related? If its a plan for a marathon I'd be interested in having a look provided its not a sub 2.45hr plan or even a sub 3hr plan. Well, not this year. PS i'm near certain the DCM is the 27th October, so you have an extra week.
Right you are, it's the 27th. Happy days.

It'll be on how to construct a training plan, general advice and race preparation techniques. How to go about the processes of obtaining a target. Many people aim for a target time...say 4hrs without a plan an idea of whats necessary to hit that time.There will be an injury prevention portion that another colleague will take as well. Still in planning phase yet but will let ye know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 16, 2014, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 16, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 16, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
Whats the nature of seminar? Injury related or training related? If its a plan for a marathon I'd be interested in having a look provided its not a sub 2.45hr plan or even a sub 3hr plan. Well, not this year. PS i'm near certain the DCM is the 27th October, so you have an extra week.
Right you are, it's the 27th. Happy days.

It'll be on how to construct a training plan, general advice and race preparation techniques. How to go about the processes of obtaining a target. Many people aim for a target time...say 4hrs without a plan an idea of whats necessary to hit that time.There will be an injury prevention portion that another colleague will take as well. Still in planning phase yet but will let ye know.

Sounds interesting, would be interested in having a look if its something that can be shared.

Injury prevention very important  ;)  :'(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 16, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Speaking of injury prevention - went for a walk (work thing) on Wednesday in the woods on gravel paths and wore an old pair of trainers. I didn't realise how crap they were until half way into the walk. Had a few mild pains yesterday but thought little of it and took off last night for one of my loops near home, a 7k one at a casual pace. From the driveway I felt crap. Legs heavy and one or two worrying twinges. Nursed myself round - breathing was fine but legs, especially calf muscles, felt like cement blocks. Think I dodged a bullet because I feel ok today but a good job I didn't push it on the way round. Ran about 10 min mile pace. I'm assuming the long walk on the dodgy surface with the bad trainers was what was the problem.
Title: FAO Mayo lads
Post by: No1 on May 16, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
I'm going to be in Westport for a wedding next weekend and want to try and get an easy 10k run in on the Saturday morning*.  Any suggestions for a decent route rather than running 3 mile out from the hotel and turning round to head straight back?

*Dependent on Friday night pints!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 17, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.

Good luck with that tomorrow Muppet! You're making some progress. A wee seed has been planted in my own head re. Dublin in October. Think i'll attempt a 1/2 marathon next month and if I feel ok progress to a training program.

Ran Les Jones 10k road race last night in Belfast. Was a fairly sweaty affair. Ran around 7.05 in mile 1 and 2, then 7.20 and 7.40 but got caught out by a really nasty hill at mile five which absolutely knocked the stuffing out of me for the last two miles. I was nearly cocky up until that hill, thinking I'd have enough left to run a 7 minute mile to finish but it really put manners on me! Didn't have a single ounce of energy left in me and felt like I had a hangover this morning. There were no drinks on offer until the end and in such a hot night I think i let myself get dehydrated. Been on the dioralyte today but still feel really shaky.

That aside - really lovely run and extremely competitive field. Noticed the quickest finishers were all a couple of minutes slower than their usual 10k times so the heat and hills seem to have taken their toll on everyone.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: CD on May 17, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.

Good luck with that tomorrow Muppet! You're making some progress. A wee seed has been planted in my own head re. Dublin in October. Think i'll attempt a 1/2 marathon next month and if I feel ok progress to a training program.

Ran Les Jones 10k road race last night in Belfast. Was a fairly sweaty affair. Ran around 7.05 in mile 1 and 2, then 7.20 and 7.40 but got caught out by a really nasty hill at mile five which absolutely knocked the stuffing out of me for the last two miles. I was nearly cocky up until that hill, thinking I'd have enough left to run a 7 minute mile to finish but it really put manners on me! Didn't have a single ounce of energy left in me and felt like I had a hangover this morning. There were no drinks on offer until the end and in such a hot night I think i let myself get dehydrated. Been on the dioralyte today but still feel really shaky.

That aside - really lovely run and extremely competitive field. Noticed the quickest finishers were all a couple of minutes slower than their usual 10k times so the heat and hills seem to have taken their toll on everyone.

Did realise there was a race last night, would have been interested though wouldn't have went full pelt as I'm keeping the calf wrapped up for Sat in the Roe Valley, the hills really feck you over, you doing Lisburn Half? I'm looking at it and considering it, but want to make sure the calf is good as the distance and pace will screw me over. Managed two 5k's this week and finished very strong after tentative starts, so maybe it's holding out. Were you happy with your time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 17, 2014, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: CD on May 17, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.

Good luck with that tomorrow Muppet! You're making some progress. A wee seed has been planted in my own head re. Dublin in October. Think i'll attempt a 1/2 marathon next month and if I feel ok progress to a training program.

Ran Les Jones 10k road race last night in Belfast. Was a fairly sweaty affair. Ran around 7.05 in mile 1 and 2, then 7.20 and 7.40 but got caught out by a really nasty hill at mile five which absolutely knocked the stuffing out of me for the last two miles. I was nearly cocky up until that hill, thinking I'd have enough left to run a 7 minute mile to finish but it really put manners on me! Didn't have a single ounce of energy left in me and felt like I had a hangover this morning. There were no drinks on offer until the end and in such a hot night I think i let myself get dehydrated. Been on the dioralyte today but still feel really shaky.

That aside - really lovely run and extremely competitive field. Noticed the quickest finishers were all a couple of minutes slower than their usual 10k times so the heat and hills seem to have taken their toll on everyone.

Did realise there was a race last night, would have been interested though wouldn't have went full pelt as I'm keeping the calf wrapped up for Sat in the Roe Valley, the hills really feck you over, you doing Lisburn Half? I'm looking at it and considering it, but want to make sure the calf is good as the distance and pace will screw me over. Managed two 5k's this week and finished very strong after tentative starts, so maybe it's holding out. Were you happy with your time?

Finished in 47.08 MR. Was happy enough I suppose as the course was harder than Titanic for example but I had hoped to get a bit faster with each one I've done. Disappointed that I feel so drained today - makes me wonder at my ability to run twice that distance. Thinking about the half but leaning towards the 10k now. Have a very busy few weeks at work ahead as well so I won't be able to train as much in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2014, 03:07:20 PM
You'll be grand soon. Get a big feed into you, be well deserved. After next weeks triathlon I'll go along the toe path and do 13.1 miles just to give me an idea before registering. Lad at gym who's a great runner is looking me to do half. I fall for peer pressure every time lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
Quote from: CD on May 17, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.

Good luck with that tomorrow Muppet! You're making some progress. A wee seed has been planted in my own head re. Dublin in October. Think i'll attempt a 1/2 marathon next month and if I feel ok progress to a training program.

Ran Les Jones 10k road race last night in Belfast. Was a fairly sweaty affair. Ran around 7.05 in mile 1 and 2, then 7.20 and 7.40 but got caught out by a really nasty hill at mile five which absolutely knocked the stuffing out of me for the last two miles. I was nearly cocky up until that hill, thinking I'd have enough left to run a 7 minute mile to finish but it really put manners on me! Didn't have a single ounce of energy left in me and felt like I had a hangover this morning. There were no drinks on offer until the end and in such a hot night I think i let myself get dehydrated. Been on the dioralyte today but still feel really shaky.

That aside - really lovely run and extremely competitive field. Noticed the quickest finishers were all a couple of minutes slower than their usual 10k times so the heat and hills seem to have taken their toll on everyone.

CD that is a really good race but not a PB race with that hill. It's hard to gauge whether to go slow before it or not. I was down watching and there were quite a few walking the hill as there would be every year. Did it last year and was surprised how drained I was after the hill. I wouldn't judge too much on that one race. Good one to do though and good time. You'll be much faster elsewhere.

To illustrate how tough it is I passed a guy on the hill one year and there was a funny noise coming from his direction. The noise was him throwing up over himself as he ran up the hill...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on May 17, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
Headed out this morning after planning a 10k route on google.  Used walking directions to get the distance for short cuts and parks etc.  Got about 3/4 of the way round and the ipod was telling me I had covered 9.5km already!  Took a shortcut home and still finished at over 11km.  Think I was around the 53 minute mark for 10k so am pretty happy with that.  Dublin is getting to be more than an idea at this stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 17, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.
Do it you know you want too!
Pick a training plan and see how it goes. I'm gonna use a Hal Higdon one but not sure which one yet.
We'll all be training at the same time albeit with different training plans and finish time goals but will be a help to have others doing it as we progress through the weeks.
Sure you're not far off doing a half as it is, didnt you run 16km one day?
Oh and best of luck tomorrow it's a great buzz finishing your first official race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2014, 03:31:09 PM
Yes good luck Muppet - you've done the training now so go out and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 17, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
Quote from: CD on May 17, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Ran a slow 6k & 10k on thurs & fri and am hoping I didn't overdo it for tomorrow's 5 mile. Was planning to aim just to finish but obviously if I can jog an easy 10k yesterday without any bother, I should be aiming a bit higher than just finishing an 8k.

If I break 50 mins I will be happy enough and anything else will be a bonus.

I have been reading all the posts regarding the marathon training and the marathon race series coming up, with great interest. The sizeable idiot in my head is very keen. We will see how tomorrow goes first though. One step at a time.

Good luck with that tomorrow Muppet! You're making some progress. A wee seed has been planted in my own head re. Dublin in October. Think i'll attempt a 1/2 marathon next month and if I feel ok progress to a training program.

Ran Les Jones 10k road race last night in Belfast. Was a fairly sweaty affair. Ran around 7.05 in mile 1 and 2, then 7.20 and 7.40 but got caught out by a really nasty hill at mile five which absolutely knocked the stuffing out of me for the last two miles. I was nearly cocky up until that hill, thinking I'd have enough left to run a 7 minute mile to finish but it really put manners on me! Didn't have a single ounce of energy left in me and felt like I had a hangover this morning. There were no drinks on offer until the end and in such a hot night I think i let myself get dehydrated. Been on the dioralyte today but still feel really shaky.

That aside - really lovely run and extremely competitive field. Noticed the quickest finishers were all a couple of minutes slower than their usual 10k times so the heat and hills seem to have taken their toll on everyone.

CD that is a really good race but not a PB race with that hill. It's hard to gauge whether to go slow before it or not. I was down watching and there were quite a few walking the hill as there would be every year. Did it last year and was surprised how drained I was after the hill. I wouldn't judge too much on that one race. Good one to do though and good time. You'll be much faster elsewhere.

To illustrate how tough it is I passed a guy on the hill one year and there was a funny noise coming from his direction. The noise was him throwing up over himself as he ran up the hill...

Cheers Tommy - I actually ran the hill fairly well and passed a load of walkers on it  - the problem is, they all passed me inside a kilometre. It took so much out of me I felt like I was running backwards after it! I'll just have to put it down to experience.

I'll have to test myself over a 12 mile in the next few weeks MR just to see what's possible! It's terrible what peer pressure can get us into!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 18, 2014, 11:10:57 AM
17 km this morning 1 hr 25 dead - lovely morning for a run! Confidence restored! Think I'll have to attempt the Lisburn half marathon - I'll have to wait to see how the wee legs are feeling in the morning! Now for Omaigh to watch the match!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
Did 4 miles today, was pleased with that as I and the Mrs were in Belfast on the lash!! As yo say CD brill morning for a run

Legs are aching from a tough weights session I did on the legs during the week, I hope that's all it is and I've no aches for Sat
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2014, 12:58:49 PM
Just back from about 11 mile or so. Nice morning for a run. Used to do very hilly long runs but haven't been able to convince the group back on the hills for a while so feels easy enough at the minute! First >40 mile week in a long long time which is good although on minus side niggly achilles getting stiff again >:( Will have to get plenty of stretching / strength done on it.

Good luck to those racing today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 18, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
First official run done. Really well organised and a nice surface to run on as well. Pretty flat too.

I started right at the back and took it handy enough at the start.

Passed half way at around 22:30 and did the 2nd half slightly quicker in about 22:10.

Finished 5 miles officially in under 45 mins (chip time) so I am delighted with that.

Thanks for all the tips. The heart rate monitor is the way to go. I planned to run at 80 - 85%, which worked a treat, but at 6k I felt fine so ignored the 'slow down' in my ears and finished well (for me).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 18, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
First official run done. Really well organised and a nice surface to run on as well. Pretty flat too.

I started right at the back and took it handy enough at the start.

Passed half way at around 22:30 and did the 2nd half slightly quicker in about 22:10.

Finished 5 miles officially in under 45 mins (chip time) so I am delighted with that.

Thanks for all the tips. The heart rate monitor is the way to go. I planned to run at 80 - 85%, which worked a treat, but at 6k I felt fine so ignored the 'slow down' in my ears and finished well (for me).

Good stuff, Dublin next ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2014, 01:48:07 PM
Great stuff Muppet. Heart rate is for training and can be used for the first bit of a race to make sure you don't blow up. After half way best to forget about it and just push as much as you can!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
Fair play muppet well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 18, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 18, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
First official run done. Really well organised and a nice surface to run on as well. Pretty flat too.

I started right at the back and took it handy enough at the start.

Passed half way at around 22:30 and did the 2nd half slightly quicker in about 22:10.

Finished 5 miles officially in under 45 mins (chip time) so I am delighted with that.

Thanks for all the tips. The heart rate monitor is the way to go. I planned to run at 80 - 85%, which worked a treat, but at 6k I felt fine so ignored the 'slow down' in my ears and finished well (for me).

Good stuff, Dublin next ;)

Jebus!

10k next I'd say. Might try a half later in the summer if things go well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 21, 2014, 12:53:55 AM
Well done muppet - I'd say your avg pace for the race is PB range.

Got my heart monitor a couple of days ago - got the Polar wearlink as I am using a Nike + watch and they're compatible.

Does anyone have experience of using this gear - couldn't get them to work together. The watch picks up the monitor but now it can't pick up the bloody satellites. So because it can't pick up the satellites, you cant start a run.

I'm hoping it may be either - software update required, or too much memory used on the watch to run both systems. Will plug in to the computer and see if I can remove the old data that is already uploaded to the website.....

Have tried to contact Nike+ previously, and if you're not in the states its hard to get any sense out of them

Anyway, did some interval training (minute on, uphill, minute off) so I hadn't wasted the whole effort!

4km road race on Sunday - don't feel very prepared - was going to do the 12 but haven't enough kms under my belt.
Haven't run this distance before and dont know what time to expect, would be hoping to be comfortably under 24mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2014, 07:11:56 AM
I use the nike plus watch also.
It takes a few minutes to pick up a GPS signal but it always will eventually.
I had an issue with something a few months ago and contacted them via twitter and they got back to me pretty quickly in fairness to them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 21, 2014, 07:18:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 21, 2014, 07:11:56 AM
I use the nike plus watch also.
It takes a few minutes to pick up a GPS signal but it always will eventually.
I had an issue with something a few months ago and contacted them via twitter and they got back to me pretty quickly in fairness to them.

Do you use the Polar HR monitor along with it?
Never had any issues picking up the satellites before (used to take maybe 15-30secs) , as soon as I link the monitor to the watch it can't find the satellite.

I left it searching for nearly 5 minutes but nothing.


They have just contacted me with the standard troubleshooting response. Maybe the issue was that I wasnt standing still when trying to link
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on May 21, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: CD on May 18, 2014, 11:10:57 AM
17 km this morning 1 hr 25 dead - lovely morning for a run! Confidence restored! Think I'll have to attempt the Lisburn half marathon - I'll have to wait to see how the wee legs are feeling in the morning! Now for Omaigh to watch the match!

Regarding the confidence thing, i did Connemara in April, i collapsed at the finish and got really sick, my blood sugar was really low, it was a tough race, headwind and rain most of the way...anyway, i lost all confidence and interest in running, Have Achill in 6 weeks, so decided to grasp the nettle tonight and went out and did a 13 miler close to my PB, most of the confidence is now back, but still have a few nagging doubts....anyone suffered from this and will it pass...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 22, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
An Gaeilgoir, we all have bad races, literally everyone, it sounds like you havent raced since which could be the issue.
I race maybe 20 times in the year across various disciplines, it teachs you that one bad one and you just put it behind you. last year I won a swim race on the Saturday, went out the Wednesday nite for an aquathon and my googles kept filling up, had an absolute stinker. Literally happens to everyone, even when you think you're flying.
I'd suggest, and maybe the other lads will disagree, but racing a bit more, a few 5k or 10k to build up to your main race for the year. Helps with preparation, nerves, routine
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 22, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 21, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: CD on May 18, 2014, 11:10:57 AM
17 km this morning 1 hr 25 dead - lovely morning for a run! Confidence restored! Think I'll have to attempt the Lisburn half marathon - I'll have to wait to see how the wee legs are feeling in the morning! Now for Omaigh to watch the match!

Regarding the confidence thing, i did Connemara in April, i collapsed at the finish and got really sick, my blood sugar was really low, it was a tough race, headwind and rain most of the way...anyway, i lost all confidence and interest in running, Have Achill in 6 weeks, so decided to grasp the nettle tonight and went out and did a 13 miler close to my PB, most of the confidence is now back, but still have a few nagging doubts....anyone suffered from this and will it pass...

Never keeled over Gaelgóir but I ve had a few 'never again' experiences. Last year Dublin marathon was a miserable experience and only over it now really. Have done few 5Ks and 10 Ks since and gradually got a bit of confidence back. I also got my 'back' sorted and I did a pb in the River Moy half last Saturday and never had such an easy run in my life.
After Connemara ( I did it once and it s brutal - in fact I know a lad that ended up in 2 ambulances on that mountain ;D) you re picking another difficult challenge in Achill. I m avoiding Achill this year because apart from the expense it s too tough to get a time and I think I might have a good run in me in a few weeks on a flattish course. Pity you didn t do the Moy half Gaelgóir. Nice easy route as these things go and the conditions were almost ideal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
When you say sick do you just mean for a short bit after the race or do you mean for a longer period of time?

I have been close to collapse once maybe twice and a boy who trains with us has collapsed twice at races needing an ambulance in addition to a few being in ambulances post marathon. N.B. While that sounds extreme it's a very small percentage.

If you're pushing your body to the limits then that's what happens I guess. Also I guess part of it comes down to preparation too and the body not being prepared for what hits it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: moysider on May 22, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on May 21, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: CD on May 18, 2014, 11:10:57 AM
17 km this morning 1 hr 25 dead - lovely morning for a run! Confidence restored! Think I'll have to attempt the Lisburn half marathon - I'll have to wait to see how the wee legs are feeling in the morning! Now for Omaigh to watch the match!

Regarding the confidence thing, i did Connemara in April, i collapsed at the finish and got really sick, my blood sugar was really low, it was a tough race, headwind and rain most of the way...anyway, i lost all confidence and interest in running, Have Achill in 6 weeks, so decided to grasp the nettle tonight and went out and did a 13 miler close to my PB, most of the confidence is now back, but still have a few nagging doubts....anyone suffered from this and will it pass...

Never keeled over Gaelgóir but I ve had a few 'never again' experiences. Last year Dublin marathon was a miserable experience and only over it now really. Have done few 5Ks and 10 Ks since and gradually got a bit of confidence back. I also got my 'back' sorted and I did a pb in the River Moy half last Saturday and never had such an easy run in my life.
After Connemara ( I did it once and it s brutal - in fact I know a lad that ended up in 2 ambulances on that mountain ;D) you re picking another difficult challenge in Achill. I m avoiding Achill this year because apart from the expense it s too tough to get a time and I think I might have a good run in me in a few weeks on a flattish course. Pity you didn t do the Moy half Gaelgóir. Nice easy route as these things go and the conditions were almost ideal.
Gaelgóir - It's normal for the confidence to take a bit of a hit and to have doubts after an experience like that. I've had it a few times, everyone can have a bad day.
Key is to learn from it, watch your hydration and diet the few days before a race this time. I wouldn't even worry about trying to get a PB in Achill, just try to get the mojo back and make your finish strong....nothing more of a sickner than running out of gas with 5 miles left and limping over the line. Achill is a challenging course, long gradual rise for the first 3 or 4 miles and an absolute clinker of a hill at 10 miles.

Congrats on the PB Moy. I was down at the soccer dressing rooms to see the leader until the 1.30 group pass, had to make shapes then as I was needed elsewhere. Great crowd yet again, much better race than Achill. Few years time I reckon it'll be the top half marathon in the west.
I'm thinking about Achill this year as I'm looking for a half marathon in July, not many around...if any at all other than Achill though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2014, 03:30:48 PM
My job is like a marathon where you reach the 25 mile point and someone there transports you back to the start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
On a more positive note got registered for the Warriors Run in August. Queued last night in Strandhill to no avail for one of the 300 spots available for the onsite registration so it was 4pm today and the lottery of online registration (550 places). Thankfully I got in. Was sold out in less than 10 minutes.

Amazing scramble for torture! And paying 40 lids for the pleasure too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
On a more positive note got registered for the Warriors Run in August. Queued last night in Strandhill to no avail for one of the 300 spots available for the onsite registration so it was 4pm today and the lottery of online registration (550 places). Thankfully I got in. Was sold out in less than 10 minutes.

Amazing scramble for torture! And paying 40 lids for the pleasure too!
Was just reading about this warrior run! Feck rather you than me.
You'd need plenty of stubbornness to get you through. . I'm sure you will be fine so  ;D
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 12:44:37 PM
You'll enjoy that Warrior run Seanie, nothing like a local race to motivate the training.

I know that have run it and said that the rip after it is work the effort alone. Seems to be a festival round it or is it round the festival?

Newry Half on Sunday morning, looking forward to it, in two minds about time to target but will likely decide on the start line  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 23, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Does this count as breaking 25 for 5k?


First question: I don't know. I want to back it up with a proper run before I claim I did it.

24:48 5K in the wind and rain. Finally.

Ran along the coast, north of Bull Island towards Howth and back. A bit exposed but totally flat. I was particularly happy with 7:39 for the 3rd mile with the wind on my back. I will admit I was wrecked afterwards. None of the 'I felt I could run on some more' after that one.

Now for that 55 min 10k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 23, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Does this count as breaking 25 for 5k?


First question: I don't know. I want to back it up with a proper run before I claim I did it.

24:48 5K in the wind and rain. Finally.

Ran along the coast, north of Bull Island towards Howth and back. A bit exposed but totally flat. I was particularly happy with 7:39 for the 3rd mile with the wind on my back. I will admit I was wrecked afterwards. None of the 'I felt I could run on some more' after that one.

Now for that 55 min 10k.
b**tard!!!!!
Ah no well done and fair play.  You've come some distance since your first few failed attempts at  completing couch to 5 k.
I did a 10k Wednesday night. Took it easy enough for first 5k around 27mins but did the second half of the 10k in 25.20 which is only 6 seconds off my 5k personal best which brought me in just over 52min for the 10k.
I'd say you'd break 55 for 10k easily enough soon.
Hopefully the 25min 5k barrier will be broken by me soon enough.
Have to say taking up running is one of the best things I've ever done. Really wish I started 10 years ago though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 23, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 23, 2014, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
Some great posts here in the last few days and some great achievements. Well done to all involved, especially TYP, Bingo, BM and ITG.

I did 24:40 for 5k on a treadmill with an average incline of 0.5%. The heart monitor is actually very helpful in this regard because while my legs and head were complaining, my thick side was saying that I was nowhere near the max HR and to shut up and keep running. :D
Does this count as breaking 25 for 5k?


First question: I don't know. I want to back it up with a proper run before I claim I did it.

24:48 5K in the wind and rain. Finally.

Ran along the coast, north of Bull Island towards Howth and back. A bit exposed but totally flat. I was particularly happy with 7:39 for the 3rd mile with the wind on my back. I will admit I was wrecked afterwards. None of the 'I felt I could run on some more' after that one.

Now for that 55 min 10k.
b**tard!!!!!
Ah no well done and fair play.  You've come some distance since your first few failed attempts at  completing couch to 5 k.
I did a 10k Wednesday night. Took it easy enough for first 5k around 27mins but did the second half of the 10k in 25.20 which is only 6 seconds off my 5k personal best.
Hopefully the 25min 5k barrier will be broken soon enough.


Jebus, with that split you will nail it if you are anyway right.

Very good 10k time as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 23, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
Was just reading through some of this.

I downloaded nike app a couple of years ago and took into running but gave up after a while but have got back into this last month or so - so decided to run a 5k to see how quick I could do it.

I did it in 23:48 - how does this rank in the grand scheme of things - will I be able to knock much more of this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 23, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 23, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
Was just reading through some of this.

I downloaded nike app a couple of years ago and took into running but gave up after a while but have got back into this last month or so - so decided to run a 5k to see how quick I could do it.

I did it in 23:48 - how does this rank in the grand scheme of things - will I be able to knock much more of this?

Depends on a few things obviously such as your age and if you are playing any football/hurling these days etc.

To me that is a good time but there are lads here who would be thinking 19 mins for 5k. If that is your first real attempt I see no reason why you couldn't knock a few minutes off 23:48. Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
My local park run in Lucan is pretty flat. Did it last Saturday and dunno what happened but was lucky to finish and felt like walking during it. That's why I was so surprised with my second 5k of the 10k the other night. It's funny the way it goes sometimes.
Gonna give the park run another bash tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
My local park run in Lucan is pretty flat. Did it last Saturday and dunno what happened but was lucky to finish and felt like walking during it. That's why I was so surprised with my second 5k of the 10k the other night. It's funny the way it goes sometimes.
Gonna give the park run another bash tomorrow.

Out of interest, do you warm up before hand? Over that distance, a light 1km or so before hand would do the world of good, get the heartrate up, legs in a rhythm, breathing going etc. Could be that you blew out in early stages and never got the second wind as such.
Also is passing a problem in the parkrun? Sometimes in those type of runs, you spend time speeding up to pass someone and then slowing back down, messes up your pace as well.

Just a few thoughts on it. You'll beat it tomorrow though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:41:10 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
My local park run in Lucan is pretty flat. Did it last Saturday and dunno what happened but was lucky to finish and felt like walking during it. That's why I was so surprised with my second 5k of the 10k the other night. It's funny the way it goes sometimes.
Gonna give the park run another bash tomorrow.

Out of interest, do you warm up before hand? Over that distance, a light 1km or so before hand would do the world of good, get the heartrate up, legs in a rhythm, breathing going etc. Could be that you blew out in early stages and never got the second wind as such.
Also is passing a problem in the parkrun? Sometimes in those type of runs, you spend time speeding up to pass someone and then slowing back down, messes up your pace as well.

Just a few thoughts on it. You'll beat it tomorrow though.
Loads of room to pass in fairness but no I don't warm up at all. I did actually wonder was the reason I got a better 2nd 5k split the other night was because I ran a steady first 5k so in other words I was well warmed up.
I only live a few mins from the park so I think I'll run up in the morning rather than drive! Might be enough to get me warmed up.
Thanks Bingo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 23, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
LL - I always do a fast enough 500 metres or so when I show up at parkrun just to get the legs going. This is about 7/8 minutes before the start - then a quick drink and a leak before heading to the start. I only started doing it as I saw the fast lads at it so it must be worthwhile! Definitely think it helps me.

WT4E - that's pretty much the time I ran my first one in - now I'm getting close to 20 minutes and running under 21 regularly. Did my first one in November past. It took me a dozen runs to sort out my pace and strategy and I'm sure I can still knock 30 seconds off it with a bit more know-how. I learn something new every time I run. This week I learned not to do a 10km race a 17k run and an 11k fast run in 5 days! Calf muscles are killing me! Going to treat my parkrun tomorrow as a stretching session!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 23, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 23, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 23, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
Was just reading through some of this.

I downloaded nike app a couple of years ago and took into running but gave up after a while but have got back into this last month or so - so decided to run a 5k to see how quick I could do it.

I did it in 23:48 - how does this rank in the grand scheme of things - will I be able to knock much more of this?

Depends on a few things obviously such as your age and if you are playing any football/hurling these days etc.

To me that is a good time but there are lads here who would be thinking 19 mins for 5k. If that is your first real attempt I see no reason why you couldn't knock a few minutes off 23:48. Good luck with it.

Yeah I played football for a good while but only getting back into it since end of last season. I wouldn't say I'm very heavy but I have weight on anyway lol. So hopefully with more practice and drop some pounds I should be able to go lower. Thanks for the input!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2014, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: CD on May 23, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
LL - I always do a fast enough 500 metres or so when I show up at parkrun just to get the legs going. This is about 7/8 minutes before the start - then a quick drink and a leak before heading to the start. I only started doing it as I saw the fast lads at it so it must be worthwhile! Definitely think it helps me.

WT4E - that's pretty much the time I ran my first one in - now I'm getting close to 20 minutes and running under 21 regularly. Did my first one in November past. It took me a dozen runs to sort out my pace and strategy and I'm sure I can still knock 30 seconds off it with a bit more know-how. I learn something new every time I run. This week I learned not to do a 10km race a 17k run and an 11k fast run in 5 days! Calf muscles are killing me! Going to treat my parkrun tomorrow as a stretching session!

Where do you do your Parkrun CD? I'm looking to do a a flat one to get below 20mins. I reckon its close currently at 20.25
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Victoria is flat as a pancake mr.

You need a warmup before a race otherwise will take you a while to get into it and you'll lose time.

A k or a mile warm up then strides or like cd does with 200 or 400 faster. Stretches the lungs and the legs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 23, 2014, 08:01:56 PM
Queens MR - up at the Dub - it's a hilly course. I've been told that Victoria Park is the fastest followed by Ormeau Park. I want to beat 20 minutes on my 'home turf' before I go off to do any others - don't want my PB to be on another spot. I'd feel like I was cheating!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: CD on May 23, 2014, 08:01:56 PM
Queens MR - up at the Dub - it's a hilly course. I've been told that Victoria Park is the fastest followed by Ormeau Park. I want to beat 20 minutes on my 'home turf' before I go off to do any others - don't want my PB to be on another spot. I'd feel like I was cheating!
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Victoria is flat as a pancake mr.

You need a warmup before a race otherwise will take you a while to get into it and you'll lose time.

A k or a mile warm up then strides or like cd does with 200 or 400 faster. Stretches the lungs and the legs.

Will have to give Victoria a go some morning, racing tomorrow in Limavady so no fecking beers/wine tonight!!

Always give the pond a run around or two at the Waterparks when I a do theirs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 23, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
Lads - just been reading about the muscle relaxing qualities of Epsom salts. Anyone use them post long runs? Do they work at all or is it some kind of placebo effect?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2014, 08:25:59 PM
Ever take recovery drinks cd? Stuff called rego is good. Protein and carbs straight after. Works well. Haven't tried the salts.

My quickest parkrun is ormeau-4 seconds ahead waterworks, 40 queens and a minute off victoria though stopped to tie lace!

Victoria park now 9:30 too. Used to be 9.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 23, 2014, 08:31:18 PM
Never tried recovery drinks - have tried recovering by attempting to eat everything in the kitchen after some runs!! I've found a pint of milk tends to work for me - stops me from craving unhealthy food after a longer run.

It'd be nice if somewhere in the city went off an hour earlier - my wife has started running again after a year off to have baby no3 so we're taking it week about. It's going to take me much longer than I thought to get that 50 t-shirt!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2014, 08:40:44 PM
Ha, yeah i would eat all round me too. The recovery stuff more helpful for maybe the next day.

At 25 myself so will be a while too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 24, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Long time reader first time poster here.Always kept an eye on this thread though.
I did a bit of running back in the day,but life,kids etc got in the way and I let it slip.I'm back running a few months now and half considering doing a marathon this year. I've done 2 before but that was with a few years running behind me. Would I be mad considering doing one this year after a 7/8 year break from running?  I'm over 40 now so the wife wants me to go to GP for a check before I start any training for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 24, 2014, 07:56:38 AM
Also I see a few guys mention gps watches here.
Garmin,Nike are they all basically the same?

I'm a bit of a stats nerd so would want one that comes with a good software package.
Years ago I use to hop in the car after a run and measure the distance that way  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 24, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
ive nowt to offer other than "love the username" :-)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2014, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
My local park run in Lucan is pretty flat. Did it last Saturday and dunno what happened but was lucky to finish and felt like walking during it. That's why I was so surprised with my second 5k of the 10k the other night. It's funny the way it goes sometimes.
Gonna give the park run another bash tomorrow.

Out of interest, do you warm up before hand? Over that distance, a light 1km or so before hand would do the world of good, get the heartrate up, legs in a rhythm, breathing going etc. Could be that you blew out in early stages and never got the second wind as such.
Also is passing a problem in the parkrun? Sometimes in those type of runs, you spend time speeding up to pass someone and then slowing back down, messes up your pace as well.

Just a few thoughts on it. You'll beat it tomorrow though.
Not today unfortunately. I done a bit of warming up and it certainly helped as I recorded my fastest time around that course.
Getting closer though!
Might give it a break for a few weeks and get a bit of training in before I try it again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 24, 2014, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2014, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 23, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Muppet/LL, Target yourselves a nice flat 5km road race and you's will both beat 25mins with something to spare based on your times above. A race will always get you home quicker.
My local park run in Lucan is pretty flat. Did it last Saturday and dunno what happened but was lucky to finish and felt like walking during it. That's why I was so surprised with my second 5k of the 10k the other night. It's funny the way it goes sometimes.
Gonna give the park run another bash tomorrow.

Out of interest, do you warm up before hand? Over that distance, a light 1km or so before hand would do the world of good, get the heartrate up, legs in a rhythm, breathing going etc. Could be that you blew out in early stages and never got the second wind as such.
Also is passing a problem in the parkrun? Sometimes in those type of runs, you spend time speeding up to pass someone and then slowing back down, messes up your pace as well.

Just a few thoughts on it. You'll beat it tomorrow though.
Not today unfortunately. I done a bit of warming up and it certainly helped as I recorded my fastest time around that course.
Getting closer though!
Might give it a break for a few weeks and get a bit of training in before I try it again.

It is great to see the times improving regularly. It'll come soon enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 24, 2014, 08:36:28 PM
Did the mountain loop today which is approx 12k of the 15k Warriors Run route. Missed out the last bit up to the summit but some really tough hills. Took it very slow and all told went pretty ok. Plenty to work on but a good start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 24, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 24, 2014, 08:36:28 PM
Did the mountain loop today which is approx 12k of the 15k Warriors Run route. Missed out the last bit up to the summit but some really tough hills. Took it very slow and all told went pretty ok. Plenty to work on but a good start.

Good man. It looks fairly brutal but you'll have no bother in August if you are doing 12k out of 15k now in May.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
No luck this time LL but it will come shortly.

Did the newry half today, nice new course in out and in from warrenpoint, as flat as you'd get. New PB to finish in 1.32.48, so happy out! Watching Donegal and Derry didn't help keeping me awake mind you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 25, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
No luck this time LL but it will come shortly.

Did the newry half today, nice new course in out and in from warrenpoint, as flat as you'd get. New PB to finish in 1.32.48, so happy out! Watching Donegal and Derry didn't help keeping me awake mind you!

Doing Lisburn half Bingo? Looking to do it myself arond 1.40 I'd happy with, 1.32 is some going
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2014, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 25, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
No luck this time LL but it will come shortly.

Did the newry half today, nice new course in out and in from warrenpoint, as flat as you'd get. New PB to finish in 1.32.48, so happy out! Watching Donegal and Derry didn't help keeping me awake mind you!

Doing Lisburn half Bingo? Looking to do it myself arond 1.40 I'd happy with, 1.32 is some going

Not sure yet, but have one eye on it and will see over the next week.

Very happy with the time, if I could shed a few pounds, I'd give sub 1.30 a good rattle. No idea how BM and the lads can do the full at that pace though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 26, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
Having equipment issues at the minute.

My ears must be a funny type lol. (Don't mock please) The ear phones won't stay in and I've tried the ear phones with the hooks for around your ears and they aren't much better. I was thinking of purchasing some sort of wireless ones and I was wondering if anyone has any ideas what would be best for me?

Also my arm strap for the iphone broke after only a few runs - anyone suggest a reliable comfortable one of these to purchase.

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 26, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
Stop listening to music!

I'd never dream of leaving the house with my phone or headphones, take in the sights, listen to your breathing, relax!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 26, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 26, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
Stop listening to music!

I'd never dream of leaving the house with my phone or headphones, take in the sights, listen to your breathing, relax!

Not really for music, I can do without the music but its the info from the nike app I'm after. They tell you distance, time, pace etc every so often.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 26, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
When I started off I couldn't do without the music but now I'm not too bothered. I do like to have the option and usually listen to the radio or something. Listened to a good few politicians biting the dust on Saturday, helped me up some of the hills!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 26, 2014, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: WT4E on May 26, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
Having equipment issues at the minute.

My ears must be a funny type lol. (Don't mock please) The ear phones won't stay in and I've tried the ear phones with the hooks for around your ears and they aren't much better. I was thinking of purchasing some sort of wireless ones and I was wondering if anyone has any ideas what would be best for me?

Also my arm strap for the iphone broke after only a few runs - anyone suggest a reliable comfortable one of these to purchase.

Thanks
I use these and find them very good.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-SHQ3200-10-ActionFit-Headphones-Red-Black/dp/B008ZW2VAW

Like the other lads I couldn't do without music at the start but now it depends on my humour.
Podcasts are good to pass the time while running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
The odd time I'd listen to a bit of music or a podcast but its hard to beat a bit of company on a run, even if just for the first few miles.

Last weekend did a 12miler with 4 others, 2 of the lads where for pushing the pace but myself and another lad said we'd ease off. We chatted the whole way round and the run flew by. On a lovely fresh Sunday morning it was mighty.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 26, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
The odd time I'd listen to a bit of music or a podcast but its hard to beat a bit of company on a run, even if just for the first few miles.

Last weekend did a 12miler with 4 others, 2 of the lads where for pushing the pace but myself and another lad said we'd ease off. We chatted the whole way round and the run flew by. On a lovely fresh Sunday morning it was mighty.

Know what you mean. Saturday was the farthest and by far the longesttime i've ran for but I did it at a handy pace and found I was sound after and the time flew.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2014, 12:52:55 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on May 26, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
The odd time I'd listen to a bit of music or a podcast but its hard to beat a bit of company on a run, even if just for the first few miles.

Last weekend did a 12miler with 4 others, 2 of the lads where for pushing the pace but myself and another lad said we'd ease off. We chatted the whole way round and the run flew by. On a lovely fresh Sunday morning it was mighty.

Know what you mean. Saturday was the farthest and by far the longesttime i've ran for but I did it at a handy pace and found I was sound after and the time flew.

I listen to the radio but depending on my pace the left earpiece falls out and puts me off ffs

Weather is perfect for a run now, might do my wee loop run (6 miles) but I'm spinning later and have planned to do my 13.1 miles tomorrow after work, don't want to do too much.                                                                                 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 26, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2014, 12:52:55 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on May 26, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
The odd time I'd listen to a bit of music or a podcast but its hard to beat a bit of company on a run, even if just for the first few miles.

Last weekend did a 12miler with 4 others, 2 of the lads where for pushing the pace but myself and another lad said we'd ease off. We chatted the whole way round and the run flew by. On a lovely fresh Sunday morning it was mighty.

Know what you mean. Saturday was the farthest and by far the longesttime i've ran for but I did it at a handy pace and found I was sound after and the time flew.

I listen to the radio but depending on my pace the left earpiece falls out and puts me off ffs

Weather is perfect for a run now, might do my wee loop run (6 miles) but I'm spinning later and have planned to do my 13.1 miles tomorrow after work, don't want to do too much.                                                                                 

Exact same - its a total BIATCH!

Goin to buy wireless headphones - heopefuly this will sort the problem
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 26, 2014, 02:28:34 PM
I like the sennheiser neckband headphones -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX-685i-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B0094R4Q6Y/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401110598&sr=1-6&keywords=sennheiser+amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX-685i-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B0094R4Q6Y/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401110598&sr=1-6&keywords=sennheiser+amazon)

I wear a version of these that I picked up a couple of years ago. I'm on my third pair - first ones lasted about 5 years, next one about 6 months and I'm in year 2 with the current pair. They're expensive but I've never had problems with them falling out.

Like a few of you, I go through phases of listening to books and podcasts- keep resorting back to my ten year old ipod shuffle that hasn't been updated in six years - full of Joy Division, Clash, Thin Lizzy, Killers. Can't bate it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 24, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Long time reader first time poster here.Always kept an eye on this thread though.
I did a bit of running back in the day,but life,kids etc got in the way and I let it slip.I'm back running a few months now and half considering doing a marathon this year. I've done 2 before but that was with a few years running behind me. Would I be mad considering doing one this year after a 7/8 year break from running?  I'm over 40 now so the wife wants me to go to GP for a check before I start any training for it.

Its 22 weeks from today to Dublin, you know what is needed on the day from past experience, so its a matter of knowing yourself if you can commit to the next 22 weeks to give yourself a chance to get round on the day. You've a few months done, so the base is there.

Maybe try the half marathon in August and see how you feel from there. A check up does no harm.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 11:30:26 PM
Played a hurling match tonight thought id lose pace because of the running but it was grand and was able to keep at it the whole match. Short sptints and twisting turning will hurt tomorrow no doubt but it great to still run out on the pitch.

All down to the running. Id be overweight and fecked if i didnt
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2014, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 11:30:26 PM
Played a hurling match tonight thought id lose pace because of the running but it was grand and was able to keep at it the whole match. Short sptints and twisting turning will hurt tomorrow no doubt but it great to still run out on the pitch.

All down to the running. Id be overweight and fecked if i didnt

Had the same feelings/fears before I played a club football match a few weeks ago. Was amazed at how I could keep going though I probably shouldn't have been. Was sore after (stomach/core and of course arms/shoulders) so am bringing a nice, easy circuit into my training regime. A 7 minute workout app that can be done anywhere, repeat a few times as time allows.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 28, 2014, 10:03:44 AM
Ballinaman
You're dead right about a coach, I think you'll notice a big improvement, I see people that use them for tri and the difference is amazing

As for the marathon I might be tempted, I'm pretty much crocked at the minute, ligaments torn in my shoulder means I havent swam in five weeks, did a race at the weekend and limped through the swim but there is f**k all point in me limping through swims at this stage, I need to be going well in them if I'm to do well in races.
Then to add insult to injury I came off the bike coming into transition, cracked the carbon frame, €2,500 gone like that, getting it fixed isnt looking like an option its that cracked, sick.
Was 2nd at that stage, did a brutal run (33.30 for 8k) and was passed by two lads.

So I cant do cycle races cause if I come down on my shoulder i'll do serious damage, can only do triathlons where the swim is in a fast moving river (Athy this weekend and Ballina in July), so that leaves me with running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 28, 2014, 10:03:44 AM
Ballinaman
You're dead right about a coach, I think you'll notice a big improvement, I see people that use them for tri and the difference is amazing

As for the marathon I might be tempted, I'm pretty much crocked at the minute, ligaments torn in my shoulder means I havent swam in five weeks, did a race at the weekend and limped through the swim but there is f**k all point in me limping through swims at this stage, I need to be going well in them if I'm to do well in races.
Then to add insult to injury I came off the bike coming into transition, cracked the carbon frame, €2,500 gone like that, getting it fixed isnt looking like an option its that cracked, sick.
Was 2nd at that stage, did a brutal run (33.30 for 8k) and was passed by two lads.

So I cant do cycle races cause if I come down on my shoulder i'll do serious damage, can only do triathlons where the swim is in a fast moving river (Athy this weekend and Ballina in July), so that leaves me with running

Is it different in a running river? Better than say lake and sea? I'd terrible open water swim I'd like to get out of my system before trying again, would the river swim be an option?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 28, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
in a river there a current, majority of races take u with the current, so I'll knocked out the ballina swim in 8-9 minutes.
Athy I think does 600m with the current and then u turn and come back for the last 150
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 28, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
in a river there a current, majority of races take u with the current, so I'll knocked out the ballina swim in 8-9 minutes.
Athy I think does 600m with the current and then u turn and come back for the last 150

Its an option, I love doing them but I shit myself last time in the lake for whatever reason. Did Roe Valley at weekend and it was in the pool but I managed to beat my PB and did it in 16 mins for the 30 lengths. But in open water I'm slow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 11:30:26 PM
Played a hurling match tonight thought id lose pace because of the running but it was grand and was able to keep at it the whole match. Short sptints and twisting turning will hurt tomorrow no doubt but it great to still run out on the pitch.

All down to the running. Id be overweight and fecked if i didnt

Do you think overall does it hinder or help your football/hurling?

Would running a lot be better suited to a player in a certain position?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
FF line and FB line not much help...

Anywhere else I think it will help you a lot.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 11:30:26 PM
Played a hurling match tonight thought id lose pace because of the running but it was grand and was able to keep at it the whole match. Short sptints and twisting turning will hurt tomorrow no doubt but it great to still run out on the pitch.

All down to the running. Id be overweight and fecked if i didnt

Do you think overall does it hinder or help your football/hurling?

Would running a lot be better suited to a player in a certain position?

I started in FF line but played outfield for most of the game, obviously my age doesn't help but I was still going strong till the final whistle, I was breathing well throughout the game also and the fitness allowed me to be better focused on the ball. I wish I had this attitude 25 years ago ffs!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 11:30:26 PM
Played a hurling match tonight thought id lose pace because of the running but it was grand and was able to keep at it the whole match. Short sptints and twisting turning will hurt tomorrow no doubt but it great to still run out on the pitch.

All down to the running. Id be overweight and fecked if i didnt

Do you think overall does it hinder or help your football/hurling?

Would running a lot be better suited to a player in a certain position?

I started in FF line but played outfield for most of the game, obviously my age doesn't help but I was still going strong till the final whistle, I was breathing well throughout the game also and the fitness allowed me to be better focused on the ball. I wish I had this attitude 25 years ago ffs!!

Yeah I presume its just a case of when doing running training you lose sharpness but increase stamina so therefore if you are in the middle sector you'll be great and if your in round the square you'll be found out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 28, 2014, 04:18:57 PM
Some evening for a run. Stopped off in Phoenix Park on way home and done a nice 8k.
T'was fair warm!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 05:27:02 PM
The thought of going out for a run use to turn me!

Its my night off on the programme I'm doing and I'm itching to go out anyway - WHATS WRONG WITH ME????
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 28, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 05:27:02 PM
The thought of going out for a run use to turn me!

Its my night off on the programme I'm doing and I'm itching to go out anyway - WHATS WRONG WITH ME????

Good sign! Great night for it.

My dodgy knee has caused a glute spasm again. Bottom of my back is in absolute agony! My physio is booked up until early Friday - can't wait to have a grown man knead my buttock. A sentence I never anticipated writing. Sore :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.

Be alright for Lisburn?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.

Be alright for Lisburn?
Should be fine - it usually clears up pretty quickly after the spasm is released. My own fault - did too many miles in last ten days and didn't stretch or rest correctly. Should know better by now but I was feeling good so kept running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.

Be alright for Lisburn?
Should be fine - it usually clears up pretty quickly after the spasm is released. My own fault - did too many miles in last ten days and didn't stretch or rest correctly. Should know better by now but I was feeling good so kept running.

That's the thing, you think you are flying and then .....

I'm out for a wee six miler tomorrow at 6.45, not sure of route yet but hopefully it won't be to bad weather wise
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 29, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.

Be alright for Lisburn?
Should be fine - it usually clears up pretty quickly after the spasm is released. My own fault - did too many miles in last ten days and didn't stretch or rest correctly. Should know better by now but I was feeling good so kept running.

That's the thing, you think you are flying and then .....

I'm out for a wee six miler tomorrow at 6.45, not sure of route yet but hopefully it won't be to bad weather wise

How'd it go last night - you still thinking of Lisburn 1/2 or the 10k? Lads I've been talking to are all looking at the 10k. I'm edging that way myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: CD on May 29, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 28, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
Try this with a sliotar or tennis ball CD

http://youtu.be/J4-t9XHKGoo

Cheers BM - been at it the last three days - just can't release it this time - too deep - it happens every 6 months or so.

Be alright for Lisburn?
Should be fine - it usually clears up pretty quickly after the spasm is released. My own fault - did too many miles in last ten days and didn't stretch or rest correctly. Should know better by now but I was feeling good so kept running.

That's the thing, you think you are flying and then .....

I'm out for a wee six miler tomorrow at 6.45, not sure of route yet but hopefully it won't be to bad weather wise

How'd it go last night - you still thinking of Lisburn 1/2 or the 10k? Lads I've been talking to are all looking at the 10k. I'm edging that way myself.

Grand and feeling strong, no injuries touch wood. was with two other guys, they've 10 or more marathons between them and I was steady enough with them. Think I'm going to do the half marathon. My youngest looking to do the fun run so hopefully it will be a good day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 29, 2014, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 26, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 24, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Long time reader first time poster here.Always kept an eye on this thread though.
I did a bit of running back in the day,but life,kids etc got in the way and I let it slip.I'm back running a few months now and half considering doing a marathon this year. I've done 2 before but that was with a few years running behind me. Would I be mad considering doing one this year after a 7/8 year break from running?  I'm over 40 now so the wife wants me to go to GP for a check before I start any training for it.

Its 22 weeks from today to Dublin, you know what is needed on the day from past experience, so its a matter of knowing yourself if you can commit to the next 22 weeks to give yourself a chance to get round on the day. You've a few months done, so the base is there.

Maybe try the half marathon in August and see how you feel from there. A check up does no harm.
Thanks for the advice Bingo
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on May 29, 2014, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on May 28, 2014, 05:27:02 PM
The thought of going out for a run use to turn me!

Its my night off on the programme I'm doing and I'm itching to go out anyway - WHATS WRONG WITH ME????

Good sign! Great night for it.

My dodgy knee has caused a glute spasm again. Bottom of my back is in absolute agony! My physio is booked up until early Friday - can't wait to have a grown man knead my buttock. A sentence I never anticipated writing. Sore :-[

Sounds like same that happened to me. Probably been overdoing it this last wbut I've been feeling really good until I tried to get out of the car on Wednesday morning and it just seized on me and I was in agony!

Went to the Pharmacist and knocked some Brufen into me and I was basically fine by that evening!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
Walked to the summitt of Knocknarea last evening. Running down it is going to be some craic. Hope it's not a wet day. Am completely torn about what footwear to go with. Guys I know who have done the Warriors several times say to just wear your regular running shoes. Other say to wear trail runners but how would they suit for the road?

Anyway, did a nice 5k this morning. Glorious morning for a run. Probably do a long run Sunday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 30, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
Walked to the summitt of Knocknarea last evening. Running down it is going to be some craic. Hope it's not a wet day. Am completely torn about what footwear to go with. Guys I know who have done the Warriors several times say to just wear your regular running shoes. Other say to wear trail runners but how would they suit for the road?

Anyway, did a nice 5k this morning. Glorious morning for a run. Probably do a long run Sunday.

It depends on the weather on the day. You can't go wrong with trail runners on a run like that. You can with road runners, there is more risk with them but you could get by with them. It will depend also on how fast you plan to descent. I've a pair of trail runners and they are great for hard uneven surfaces and for grip on loose/mucky/downhill sections. They feel a bit strange at first on the road as they are flat and hard but they are 100% and as cushioned now. Plus they can be got relatively cheap.

You'd be very unlucky to suffer wearing road runners at that time of the year but if you plan on doing a bit of trail running or hill running in the future, nothing to lose with a pair of trail runners.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 30, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
Walked to the summitt of Knocknarea last evening. Running down it is going to be some craic. Hope it's not a wet day. Am completely torn about what footwear to go with. Guys I know who have done the Warriors several times say to just wear your regular running shoes. Other say to wear trail runners but how would they suit for the road?

Anyway, did a nice 5k this morning. Glorious morning for a run. Probably do a long run Sunday.

It depends on the weather on the day. You can't go wrong with trail runners on a run like that. You can with road runners, there is more risk with them but you could get by with them. It will depend also on how fast you plan to descent. I've a pair of trail runners and they are great for hard uneven surfaces and for grip on loose/mucky/downhill sections. They feel a bit strange at first on the road as they are flat and hard but they are 100% and as cushioned now. Plus they can be got relatively cheap.

You'd be very unlucky to suffer wearing road runners at that time of the year but if you plan on doing a bit of trail running or hill running in the future, nothing to lose with a pair of trail runners.

Thanks Bingo. I'd just be worried about blisters or some other calamity. Most of the race is on road, about 11k+ of the 15k is on proper roads, the rest on mountain paths and worse. After last night I think I'll be taking the descent pretty handy. focus on my road running and treat the middle couple of miles as an obstable to be overcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 30, 2014, 10:25:51 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 30, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
Walked to the summitt of Knocknarea last evening. Running down it is going to be some craic. Hope it's not a wet day. Am completely torn about what footwear to go with. Guys I know who have done the Warriors several times say to just wear your regular running shoes. Other say to wear trail runners but how would they suit for the road?

Anyway, did a nice 5k this morning. Glorious morning for a run. Probably do a long run Sunday.

It depends on the weather on the day. You can't go wrong with trail runners on a run like that. You can with road runners, there is more risk with them but you could get by with them. It will depend also on how fast you plan to descent. I've a pair of trail runners and they are great for hard uneven surfaces and for grip on loose/mucky/downhill sections. They feel a bit strange at first on the road as they are flat and hard but they are 100% and as cushioned now. Plus they can be got relatively cheap.

You'd be very unlucky to suffer wearing road runners at that time of the year but if you plan on doing a bit of trail running or hill running in the future, nothing to lose with a pair of trail runners.

Thanks Bingo. I'd just be worried about blisters or some other calamity. Most of the race is on road, about 11k+ of the 15k is on proper roads, the rest on mountain paths and worse. After last night I think I'll be taking the descent pretty handy. focus on my road running and treat the middle couple of miles as an obstable to be overcome.

If you get them in advance and they are broke in, blisters not be a problem. Try the 4km part of the run on a nice dry day in the runners and you'll know how you feel on them.

The descent can be great coming down and its amazing how quick you get down. Was over in Westport and early morning I headed out to Croagh Patrick, was first up it that morning, running where I could (not very often!), I bombed down it in about 20 minutes and it was a great buzz, reckless at times but very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I see a few pages back people talking about heart rate monitors.
Lidl have a heart rate watch and chest strap on sale for €20 next week.  I wonder would it be any good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I see a few pages back people talking about heart rate monitors.
Lidl have a heart rate watch and chest strap on sale for €20 next week.  I wonder would it be any good.

What day is that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I see a few pages back people talking about heart rate monitors.
Lidl have a heart rate watch and chest strap on sale for €20 next week.  I wonder would it be any good.

What day is that?
Thursday 5th June.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 30, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I see a few pages back people talking about heart rate monitors.
Lidl have a heart rate watch and chest strap on sale for €20 next week.  I wonder would it be any good.

I got one last year and found it great for training . It's very basic but it does what it says on the tin. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 31, 2014, 09:14:17 AM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 30, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Quote from: Hotshot Hamish on May 30, 2014, 12:58:15 PM
I see a few pages back people talking about heart rate monitors.
Lidl have a heart rate watch and chest strap on sale for €20 next week.  I wonder would it be any good.

What day is that?
Thursday 5th June.

Thanks HH.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 01, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Muppet I see you've changed your goal for the year. Some going to what you originally posted.
Now you are hoping to finish a half marathon. Fair play.

Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 01, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Muppet I see you've changed your goal for the year. Some going to what you originally posted.
Now you are hoping to finish a half marathon. Fair play.

Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)

I am thinking of running in this: http://www.runclontarf.com (http://www.runclontarf.com)

It advertises itself as Ireland's flattest half marathon. I will probably do the 5 miles again but I might try the longer one if I have a good June.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on June 01, 2014, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 01, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Muppet I see you've changed your goal for the year. Some going to what you originally posted.
Now you are hoping to finish a half marathon. Fair play.

Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)

I am thinking of running in this: http://www.runclontarf.com (http://www.runclontarf.com)

It advertises itself as Ireland's flattest half marathon. I will probably do the 5 miles again but I might try the longer one if I have a good June.

That looks tempting alright. Might target that myself.

I have Ballycastle  10 k  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballycastle-10k-coastal-challenge/217670425055572 the weekend before and it s a real holeopener. A week should be good enough to recover though :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
Managed 3 miles in 20 minutes there, came up a bit short on the 5K goal but was happy enough. Will target Victoria park soon for my sub 20
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 01, 2014, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 01, 2014, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 01, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Muppet I see you've changed your goal for the year. Some going to what you originally posted.
Now you are hoping to finish a half marathon. Fair play.

Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)

I am thinking of running in this: http://www.runclontarf.com (http://www.runclontarf.com)

It advertises itself as Ireland's flattest half marathon. I will probably do the 5 miles again but I might try the longer one if I have a good June.

That looks tempting alright. Might target that myself.

I have Ballycastle  10 k  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballycastle-10k-coastal-challenge/217670425055572 the weekend before and it s a real holeopener. A week should be good enough to recover though :-\

That looks like a tough hill to finish with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on June 01, 2014, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 01, 2014, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 01, 2014, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 01, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Muppet I see you've changed your goal for the year. Some going to what you originally posted.
Now you are hoping to finish a half marathon. Fair play.

Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2014, 05:58:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
Don't forget Muppet.

Put me into division 4.

Goal - 5K sub 25 mins  ::)

I am thinking of running in this: http://www.runclontarf.com (http://www.runclontarf.com)

It advertises itself as Ireland's flattest half marathon. I will probably do the 5 miles again but I might try the longer one if I have a good June.

That looks tempting alright. Might target that myself.

I have Ballycastle  10 k  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballycastle-10k-coastal-challenge/217670425055572 the weekend before and it s a real holeopener. A week should be good enough to recover though :-\

That looks like a tough hill to finish with.

Yeah. And a 3K+ climb to half way! They don t call it a challenge for nothing. Great buzz though. Ran the route in training on Thursday and really enjoyed it but it s not for a pb though. Lovely coastal scenery, Downpatrick Head and Dún Briste.

Just entered Clontarf half. That ll get me off my hole now. Achill is on the same day but I don t fancy more hills and I d be hoping for a pb on a flat half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

2 mins is some going, minutes are dropping off all over the show.

I was at the Runher charity race on Sunday at Stormont, there was 2 races, wife and two kids did the first 5k and there must have been well over 1500 people doing it, some runners joggers and walkers and it was a great event which can only spur on people to take it up full time, my eldest daughter (13) finished in 24 minutes which I was chuffed considering she avoids running, so potential there.

The fastest runner finished in 17 minutes and as anyone who knows Stormont estate there is a nasty hill so that was a decent time......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 02, 2014, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

Well done Seanie. It is a great feeling when you do something like that. You will be chomping at the bit to get out again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 02, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

2 mins is some going, minutes are dropping off all over the show.

I was at the Runher charity race on Sunday at Stormont, there was 2 races, wife and two kids did the first 5k and there must have been well over 1500 people doing it, some runners joggers and walkers and it was a great event which can only spur on people to take it up full time, my eldest daughter (13) finished in 24 minutes which I was chuffed considering she avoids running, so potential there.

The fastest runner finished in 17 minutes and as anyone who knows Stormont estate there is a nasty hill so that was a decent time......

Mrs CD did the Race for Life there on Sunday morning - not bad going for a girl who had a baby 4 months ago! It was the biggest crowd I can recall doing it and I think it was going in the afternoon as well.

The fastest girls were in on 19 minutes  - good going as there were two bottlenecks where they had to walk and the second part of that hill (just when you think you'ver reached the top there's the bit up around the side to do!) is a real killer!

Still struggling with injury myself. Going to jog an 8km this evening just to see how the glute is. The back pain has resided but the muscle is raw - had 9 days rest on it. Looks like I'll just have to settle for the Lisburn 10km and jog it - don't have a run in me.

Going to do the Bridges run MR - you do that one?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 02, 2014, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

Fantastic running - no better feeling!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 02, 2014, 03:10:22 PM
Kept waiting for myself to hit the wall and fall off the pace but kept it going. Must admit I pushed so hard at the finish I had, shall we say, a moment of stomach upset!

I had planned running a 10k race next Sat to attack my pb but think I will do the 12k mountain loop slowly again. I have no doubt that is great training and contributed to last nights run. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 02, 2014, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 02, 2014, 03:10:22 PM
Kept waiting for myself to hit the wall and fall off the pace but kept it going. Must admit I pushed so hard at the finish I had, shall we say, a moment of stomach upset!

I had planned running a 10k race next Sat to attack my pb but think I will do the 12k mountain loop slowly again. I have no doubt that is great training and contributed to last nights run.
Happens me all the time  :-[
Well done on the PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.
Mighty stuff. Congrats
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: CD on June 02, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

2 mins is some going, minutes are dropping off all over the show.

I was at the Runher charity race on Sunday at Stormont, there was 2 races, wife and two kids did the first 5k and there must have been well over 1500 people doing it, some runners joggers and walkers and it was a great event which can only spur on people to take it up full time, my eldest daughter (13) finished in 24 minutes which I was chuffed considering she avoids running, so potential there.

The fastest runner finished in 17 minutes and as anyone who knows Stormont estate there is a nasty hill so that was a decent time......

Mrs CD did the Race for Life there on Sunday morning - not bad going for a girl who had a baby 4 months ago! It was the biggest crowd I can recall doing it and I think it was going in the afternoon as well.

The fastest girls were in on 19 minutes  - good going as there were two bottlenecks where they had to walk and the second part of that hill (just when you think you'ver reached the top there's the bit up around the side to do!) is a real killer!

Still struggling with injury myself. Going to jog an 8km this evening just to see how the glute is. The back pain has resided but the muscle is raw - had 9 days rest on it. Looks like I'll just have to settle for the Lisburn 10km and jog it - don't have a run in me.

Going to do the Bridges run MR - you do that one?

Where is this run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 02, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: CD on June 02, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

2 mins is some going, minutes are dropping off all over the show.

I was at the Runher charity race on Sunday at Stormont, there was 2 races, wife and two kids did the first 5k and there must have been well over 1500 people doing it, some runners joggers and walkers and it was a great event which can only spur on people to take it up full time, my eldest daughter (13) finished in 24 minutes which I was chuffed considering she avoids running, so potential there.

The fastest runner finished in 17 minutes and as anyone who knows Stormont estate there is a nasty hill so that was a decent time......

Mrs CD did the Race for Life there on Sunday morning - not bad going for a girl who had a baby 4 months ago! It was the biggest crowd I can recall doing it and I think it was going in the afternoon as well.

The fastest girls were in on 19 minutes  - good going as there were two bottlenecks where they had to walk and the second part of that hill (just when you think you'ver reached the top there's the bit up around the side to do!) is a real killer!

Still struggling with injury myself. Going to jog an 8km this evening just to see how the glute is. The back pain has resided but the muscle is raw - had 9 days rest on it. Looks like I'll just have to settle for the Lisburn 10km and jog it - don't have a run in me.

Going to do the Bridges run MR - you do that one?

Where is this run?

On the Westlink - Between the Bridges - 5km on Sunday 22nd June @ 9am. Found a flyer for it on my car after an event
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: CD on June 02, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 07:57:12 PM
Quote from: CD on June 02, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Hammered my 10k pb tonight. Knocked over two minutes off it, 56:25. Feckin delighted with that.

2 mins is some going, minutes are dropping off all over the show.

I was at the Runher charity race on Sunday at Stormont, there was 2 races, wife and two kids did the first 5k and there must have been well over 1500 people doing it, some runners joggers and walkers and it was a great event which can only spur on people to take it up full time, my eldest daughter (13) finished in 24 minutes which I was chuffed considering she avoids running, so potential there.

The fastest runner finished in 17 minutes and as anyone who knows Stormont estate there is a nasty hill so that was a decent time......

Mrs CD did the Race for Life there on Sunday morning - not bad going for a girl who had a baby 4 months ago! It was the biggest crowd I can recall doing it and I think it was going in the afternoon as well.

The fastest girls were in on 19 minutes  - good going as there were two bottlenecks where they had to walk and the second part of that hill (just when you think you'ver reached the top there's the bit up around the side to do!) is a real killer!

Still struggling with injury myself. Going to jog an 8km this evening just to see how the glute is. The back pain has resided but the muscle is raw - had 9 days rest on it. Looks like I'll just have to settle for the Lisburn 10km and jog it - don't have a run in me.

Going to do the Bridges run MR - you do that one?

Where is this run?

On the Westlink - Between the Bridges - 5km on Sunday 22nd June @ 9am. Found a flyer for it on my car after an event

Hmmm could be tempted, out the following week for a triathlon so 5k would be good enough prep.

I've been taking Amino acid tablets for a while now, and whether it works or I've changed techniques, stretching more or if its just a placebo I find that I'm stronger and have less aches and pains,  I'm sure the medic (ballinaman) could inform us more on this
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on June 02, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!

Must get some. I don t even do the protein shakes.

My nutrition is meat. spuds and 2 veg and lots of beer and the odd rolly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on June 03, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 02, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!

Must get some. I don t even do the protein shakes.

My nutrition is meat. spuds and 2 veg and lots of beer and the odd rolly.

Dont know if anyone else here is doing Achill, but i have to say i am looking forward to it, did a 13 miler yesterday and came in under the 2 hour mark on a course similar to Achill...will do one more before the big day.

Regarding the whey Protein, i took it for for a few weeks and found it not to be any use, it is also quite expensive, might give the Amino Acid tablets a go, but as Ballinaman said, nothing can beat just getting the miles into the legs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 03, 2014, 12:56:00 PM
Will have to try and tot my KM's for this month, watch broke in middle of it, so will likely have to give best guestimate!

I always take a good glass of milk after a run instead of any protein drinks, has worked well for me in the past.

And fair play to Seanie. Nothing like a bit of hill running to strengthen the leg muscles I find. Its going to be my focus over next month or so before starting into a plan for Dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 12:59:15 PM
I just entered the Irish Runner 5 mile in Pheonix Park 28/6/14

First time I've entered a run bar a few fun runs for the local GAA clubs a few years ago. Starting to worry that maybe this is a serious race and I shouldn't be in it?  :-\

Wonder what he level is like in it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 03, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on June 03, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 02, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!

Must get some. I don t even do the protein shakes.

My nutrition is meat. spuds and 2 veg and lots of beer and the odd rolly.

Dont know if anyone else here is doing Achill, but i have to say i am looking forward to it, did a 13 miler yesterday and came in under the 2 hour mark on a course similar to Achill...will do one more before the big day.

Regarding the whey Protein, i took it for for a few weeks and found it not to be any use, it is also quite expensive, might give the Amino Acid tablets a go, but as Ballinaman said, nothing can beat just getting the miles into the legs.
Going to give Clontarf a go instead, had a look at course and didn't know it's basically the same route I run most of the time.
Exactly Gaeilgoir, a consistent training block is key. Give me a fella who has been tipping away for 3 months than a guy who has been doing great sessions but interupted training schedule anyday.

Found these good, can get them in powder form that you can make a drink out of. Taken after training.
(http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/images/BCAA-Caps.jpg)


WT4E

You'll be sound. Huge numbers, all levels in it. It'll be a bit congested to prepare yourself for some bumper to bumper running for the first mile.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Thanks Ballinaman

I'm going to target under 40 - hopefully I can do it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 03, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Thanks Ballinaman

I'm going to target under 40 - hopefully I can do it!

Jebus man there will be a thousand people behind you! And that is assuming only 1,500 start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hotshot Hamish on June 03, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 12:59:15 PM
I just entered the Irish Runner 5 mile in Pheonix Park 28/6/14

First time I've entered a run bar a few fun runs for the local GAA clubs a few years ago. Starting to worry that maybe this is a serious race and I shouldn't be in it?  :-\

Wonder what he level is like in it?
Is this part of the Dublin race series in the build up to the marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Races cater for everyone. Don't worry about whether you're good enough to be in it as there is no pre-requisite. Look at the times from last year - I'd bet you'd finish quite well up it. You'd surprise yourself.

5 mile, 10k, 10mil and half the series aren't they with that being one of them?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 03, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Thanks Ballinaman

I'm going to target under 40 - hopefully I can do it!

Jebus man there will be a thousand people behind you! And that is assuming only 1,500 start.

Sorry dunno think the Irish Runner title put me off when I read it to myself again after I booked it. Started to think 'Irish runner' and picture myself with 300 athletes all doin this in under 30.

But I'm more calm now.

I'm about 1 month into the running (with a reasonable base of fitness due to previous football training). I did a six mile run last Friday in 48.04 (5 mile split 40:28) so assuming the course is not mental tough I would say its a very doable time for me.

Hopefully!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 03, 2014, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 03, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Thanks Ballinaman

I'm going to target under 40 - hopefully I can do it!

Jebus man there will be a thousand people behind you! And that is assuming only 1,500 start.

Sorry dunno think the Irish Runner title put me off when I read it to myself again after I booked it. Started to think 'Irish runner' and picture myself with 300 athletes all doin this in under 30.

But I'm more calm now.

I'm about 1 month into the running (with a reasonable base of fitness due to previous football training). I did a six mile run last Friday in 48.04 (5 mile split 40:28) so assuming the course is not mental tough I would say its a very doable time for me.

Hopefully!
(http://static.squarespace.com/static/519b4b82e4b04feb42ae4c0d/t/53054124e4b0f2cfe767a553/1392853286363/DRS2013-map-irish-runner.gif?format=750w)
I used this route for the marathon training, used to run it 4 times for a 20 miler, turning back around when hitting the finish and start lines. The clockwise route is much tougher, from the bottom of the kyber road where you turn onto military road is pretty brutal. 2 hills of 900m approx length....Kyber Road is all downhill, don't loose run of yourself there, need to keep some gas in the tank.

Get onto a few routes that have long hills in the next month
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on June 03, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on June 03, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 02, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!

Must get some. I don t even do the protein shakes.

My nutrition is meat. spuds and 2 veg and lots of beer and the odd rolly.

Dont know if anyone else here is doing Achill, but i have to say i am looking forward to it, did a 13 miler yesterday and came in under the 2 hour mark on a course similar to Achill...will do one more before the big day.

Regarding the whey Protein, i took it for for a few weeks and found it not to be any use, it is also quite expensive, might give the Amino Acid tablets a go, but as Ballinaman said, nothing can beat just getting the miles into the legs.

Have done Achill a few times and decided to give it a miss earlier. I m doing Clontarf instead the same day. Achill is a fine event but minutes slower than more sympathetic routes. Its there with Connemara as a challenge. Achill a bit pricey too and last year they couldn t get the T-shirt sizes right. And they were charging xtra for the bloody mug that used to be part of the goody bag ;D

Off now to do 13 on local half route. Time to get serious again. Must try those 'Amigo Acids' and see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 03, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 03, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on June 03, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 02, 2014, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Aminos are building blocks for muscle growth and repair so I say they are helping, better than those whey protein shakes. You've also been training consistently which is bound to be helping too miltown!

Must get some. I don t even do the protein shakes.

My nutrition is meat. spuds and 2 veg and lots of beer and the odd rolly.

Dont know if anyone else here is doing Achill, but i have to say i am looking forward to it, did a 13 miler yesterday and came in under the 2 hour mark on a course similar to Achill...will do one more before the big day.

Regarding the whey Protein, i took it for for a few weeks and found it not to be any use, it is also quite expensive, might give the Amino Acid tablets a go, but as Ballinaman said, nothing can beat just getting the miles into the legs.

Have done Achill a few times and decided to give it a miss earlier. I m doing Clontarf instead the same day. Achill is a fine event but minutes slower than more sympathetic routes. Its there with Connemara as a challenge. Achill a bit pricey too and last year they couldn t get the T-shirt sizes right. And they were charging xtra for the bloody mug that used to be part of the goody bag ;D

Off now to do 13 on local half route. Time to get serious again. Must try those 'Amigo Acids' and see.

That's what Speedy Gonzales used!  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Friend doing the Mourne Way Marathon, the sound of it frightens me never mind actually running it lol

Anybody here do that before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Friend doing the Mourne Way Marathon, the sound of it frightens me never mind actually running it lol

Anybody here do that before?

just done the ten k part, which isnt too bad, the marathon would be deadly, fair play to your mate. im doing the ten k again on saturday, looking forward to it. you doing lisburn?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Friend doing the Mourne Way Marathon, the sound of it frightens me never mind actually running it lol

Anybody here do that before?

just done the ten k part, which isnt too bad, the marathon would be deadly, fair play to your mate. im doing the ten k again on saturday, looking forward to it. you doing lisburn?

Aye going to do Lisburn half. The fella that's doing Mourne is going through chemo at the minute after being diagnosed last summer with two types of cancer, bloody inspiration who I've met through the gym, I've been pushing him along getting him out running again and he's got his mojo back. If there is a 10k part I might do that with him.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:38:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Friend doing the Mourne Way Marathon, the sound of it frightens me never mind actually running it lol

Anybody here do that before?

just done the ten k part, which isnt too bad, the marathon would be deadly, fair play to your mate. im doing the ten k again on saturday, looking forward to it. you doing lisburn?

Aye going to do Lisburn half. The fella that's doing Mourne is going through chemo at the minute after being diagnosed last summer with two types of cancer, bloody inspiration who I've met through the gym, I've been pushing him along getting him out running again and he's got his mojo back. If there is a 10k part I might do that with him.

there is an ultra marathon, marathon, half and ten k, all with different start times and start points. very inspirational btw. thats brilliant.

http://www.26extreme.com/news/news.aspx?ID=80
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 04, 2014, 09:27:11 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:38:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 03, 2014, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Friend doing the Mourne Way Marathon, the sound of it frightens me never mind actually running it lol

Anybody here do that before?

just done the ten k part, which isnt too bad, the marathon would be deadly, fair play to your mate. im doing the ten k again on saturday, looking forward to it. you doing lisburn?

Aye going to do Lisburn half. The fella that's doing Mourne is going through chemo at the minute after being diagnosed last summer with two types of cancer, bloody inspiration who I've met through the gym, I've been pushing him along getting him out running again and he's got his mojo back. If there is a 10k part I might do that with him.

there is an ultra marathon, marathon, half and ten k, all with different start times and start points. very inspirational btw. thats brilliant.

http://www.26extreme.com/news/news.aspx?ID=80
Mr Rois-to-be is doing the half marathon on Saturday. 
I am unlikely now to do Lisburn 10k as I have totally fallen away and will have to start flippin running again from the start.  My own fault, plus working away from home for a number of weeks and staying in a hotel doesn't help but I can't always use it as an excuse. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
The mourne way marathon a hilly trail run as opposed to a scale the top of a mountain kind of run so I don't think the mourne way is as bad as it might sound. It still wouldn't be easy mind..

This one would be a bit more extreme I think...

http://skyrunninguk.com/2014/05/28/skyrunning-uk-announce-new-race-mourne-skyline-mtr-in-northern-ireland (http://skyrunninguk.com/2014/05/28/skyrunning-uk-announce-new-race-mourne-skyline-mtr-in-northern-ireland)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 04, 2014, 09:48:27 AM
I know two lads who did it a few years back. They said its a serious tough run and one of them took a while to shake it out of the system afterwards, he did say that while they had done a bit of the type of hills before it there wasn't much that could prepare you for them unless you "lived" on the mourne trails.

He did enjoy it mind and its one to experience rather than race, which was part of the problem for him as he is very competitive!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
Tomorrow is the last day for signing up for the Lisburn half marathon, there could be more entries afterwards depending on numbers.

Looking to do it in 1.44 or below if I can, think that's achievable providing I don't go too fast at the start or pick up injury (touch wood)

Which is basically 7.7 minute miles (I think) should be grand, will keep to that for as much as I can and if I have anything in the tank will push on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Iceman on June 05, 2014, 06:58:55 PM
lads i'm doing my first 10k on Saturday morning at 9.30am with 21 obstacles mixed in. I havent been running early in the morning (big oversight on my part). I have to be at the starting line an hour early and it takes about 40 mins to get there. What time would you be eating breakfast and what would be the best for the task at hand?
i stupidly have been doing my running in the afternoon and early evening so i've never thought about breakfast so close to the run.
Any advice appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 05, 2014, 06:58:55 PM
lads i'm doing my first 10k on Saturday morning at 9.30am with 21 obstacles mixed in. I havent been running early in the morning (big oversight on my part). I have to be at the starting line an hour early and it takes about 40 mins to get there. What time would you be eating breakfast and what would be the best for the task at hand?
i stupidly have been doing my running in the afternoon and early evening so i've never thought about breakfast so close to the run.
Any advice appreciated.

That's an early start, bed early and up early. If you wake up two hours before your run, good options include oats, wholegrain toast topped with eggs, granola, bagels or breakfast muffins and freshly made smoothies.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 05, 2014, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
Tomorrow is the last day for signing up for the Lisburn half marathon, there could be more entries afterwards depending on numbers.

Looking to do it in 1.44 or below if I can, think that's achievable providing I don't go too fast at the start or pick up injury (touch wood)

Which is basically 7.7 minute miles (I think) should be grand, will keep to that for as much as I can and if I have anything in the tank will push on

Just registered for the 10k. Struggling at the moment. Ran/jogged 10k after work and then had 25 minutes on the roller but feel really uncomfortable. Was flying three weeks ago! Fed up >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2014, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: CD on June 05, 2014, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
Tomorrow is the last day for signing up for the Lisburn half marathon, there could be more entries afterwards depending on numbers.

Looking to do it in 1.44 or below if I can, think that's achievable providing I don't go too fast at the start or pick up injury (touch wood)

Which is basically 7.7 minute miles (I think) should be grand, will keep to that for as much as I can and if I have anything in the tank will push on

Just registered for the 10k. Struggling at the moment. Ran/jogged 10k after work and then had 25 minutes on the roller but feel really uncomfortable. Was flying three weeks ago! Fed up >:(

Never worry plenty more races coming up, when is the Ards one?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 06, 2014, 07:09:45 AM
10k sub 55 min  8)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 06, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
You were out early this morning!
Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 06, 2014, 08:07:19 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 06, 2014, 07:09:45 AM
10k sub 55 min  8)
Excellent!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2014, 10:48:14 AM
Good man Muppet. Onto the next goal now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 06, 2014, 10:50:21 AM
Fair play Muppet, onto the next one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 06, 2014, 11:24:38 AM
Have done my first plan for another person a couple of weeks ago. They want to do our 10 miler at end of July and wanted a plan. They'd have been quite fit a few years back but haven't done much in the last couple of years while enjoying themselves a bit too much (if you get the picture!).

Its basically a couch to 10miler in 9 weeks. A big ask but I know if they stay at it they'll get a decent level in a few weeks and can build from there. The target is definitely to get round the route.

So far, so good for them. Hit 6.5km last sunday and managed this weeks runs off the back of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 06, 2014, 04:59:31 PM
YO ADRIAN I DID IT.........!!!
Under 25min 5K Finally!!

(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x390/ABURIAN/NIKEecasey.png) (http://s1179.photobucket.com/user/ABURIAN/media/NIKEecasey.png.html)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 06, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 06, 2014, 04:59:31 PM
YO ADRIAN I DID IT.........!!!
Under 25min 5K Finally!!

(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x390/ABURIAN/NIKEecasey.png) (http://s1179.photobucket.com/user/ABURIAN/media/NIKEecasey.png.html)

Brilliant. Well done Laoislad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2014, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 06, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 06, 2014, 04:59:31 PM
YO ADRIAN I DID IT.........!!!
Under 25min 5K Finally!!

(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x390/ABURIAN/NIKEecasey.png) (http://s1179.photobucket.com/user/ABURIAN/media/NIKEecasey.png.html)

Brilliant. Well done Laoislad.

Peer pressure is a wonderful thing, with the rest of the lads hitting their goals you've finally done it, though in fairness having another little one to look after can have its drawback for PB's. And with 20secs of that you've more than smashed it. Well fecking done ya moany shite
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 06, 2014, 11:49:04 PM
PB's smashed all over the place this last few weeks.

Fair play LL, it was coming!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
Thanks lads. I was delighted.
Had planned on giving it a good rattle at the park run in the morning and only went out today for a quick jog. I knew I was doing well after a couple of km so said fcuk it to myself and just went for it.
I collapsed in a heap when I got to 5k!
Think I'll give the park run in the morning a miss now,my knee is paining me since I came home after today's run.

Sub 50min 10k next on the list!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 07, 2014, 12:27:21 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 06, 2014, 04:59:31 PM
YO ADRIAN I DID IT.........!!!
Under 25min 5K Finally!!

(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x390/ABURIAN/NIKEecasey.png) (http://s1179.photobucket.com/user/ABURIAN/media/NIKEecasey.png.html)
Wee spin on the bike this evening?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
Bought a new pair of trainers today, GT 2000 Asics. Haven't had a run on them yet but they feel grand.

How do you like them?
Gonna buy a new pair of runners today and was reading these are suited to overpronators.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 12:34:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
Bought a new pair of trainers today, GT 2000 Asics. Haven't had a run on them yet but they feel grand.

How do you like them?
Gonna buy a new pair of runners today and was reading these are suited to overpronators.

I've done a right few miles on them and they are great. No issues
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 07, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
Thanks lads. I was delighted.
Had planned on giving it a good rattle at the park run in the morning and only went out today for a quick jog. I knew I was doing well after a couple of km so said fcuk it to myself and just went for it.
I collapsed in a heap when I got to 5k!
Think I'll give the park run in the morning a miss now,my knee is paining me since I came home after today's run.

Sub 50min 10k next on the list!

It is an obvious target for me too, but ffs it was so difficult to get under 25 mins for 5k, imagine trying to do that back-to-back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
Thanks lads. I was delighted.
Had planned on giving it a good rattle at the park run in the morning and only went out today for a quick jog. I knew I was doing well after a couple of km so said fcuk it to myself and just went for it.
I collapsed in a heap when I got to 5k!
Think I'll give the park run in the morning a miss now,my knee is paining me since I came home after today's run.

Sub 50min 10k next on the list!

It is an obvious target for me too, but ffs it was so difficult to get under 25 mins for 5k, imagine trying to do that back-to-back.

Yeah but all doable!!

Going for a ten milers I think tomorrow, first thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
Thanks lads. I was delighted.
Had planned on giving it a good rattle at the park run in the morning and only went out today for a quick jog. I knew I was doing well after a couple of km so said fcuk it to myself and just went for it.
I collapsed in a heap when I got to 5k!
Think I'll give the park run in the morning a miss now,my knee is paining me since I came home after today's run.

Sub 50min 10k next on the list!

It is an obvious target for me too, but ffs it was so difficult to get under 25 mins for 5k, imagine trying to do that back-to-back.
Same thought crossed my mind as I lay gasping for breath after the 5k yesterday.
I'm down to 52 mins odd for 10k but that 2 mins seems huge right now.
I really don't know how some of the lads on here are able go under 20mins and 40mins for 5k and 10k.
Fair play to them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
Thanks lads. I was delighted.
Had planned on giving it a good rattle at the park run in the morning and only went out today for a quick jog. I knew I was doing well after a couple of km so said fcuk it to myself and just went for it.
I collapsed in a heap when I got to 5k!
Think I'll give the park run in the morning a miss now,my knee is paining me since I came home after today's run.

Sub 50min 10k next on the list!

It is an obvious target for me too, but ffs it was so difficult to get under 25 mins for 5k, imagine trying to do that back-to-back.
Same thought crossed my mind as I lay gasping for breath after the 5k yesterday.
I'm down to 52 mins odd for 10k but that 2 mins seems huge right now.
I really don't know how some of the lads on here are able go under 20mins and 40mins for 5k and 10k.
Fair play to them
.

How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 07, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

Heart rate monitor.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2014, 06:38:56 PM
I'd say there are still minutes in the times you guys are running if you stick at it. The body will get much better at faster paces the more you do it. Bit of structure in your training and you'd be amazed what you could do. The heart rate stuff is pretty much scientific so if you discipline yourself and do it right you will improve.

Picked up a niggle so only getting back into it after a week out. I love the running but unfortunately with lots of running comes injuries too! Hopefully get a parkrun in in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
I retract what I said about mourne way not being too bad... Looking at the times for the top guys it is obviously very tough!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
I retract what I said about mourne way not being too bad... Looking at the times for the top guys it is obviously very tough!

Weather conditions didn't help I'd say
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 07, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
Mr Rois did the half in 1.56 and said the weather wasn't too bad for that. He loved the event. Paths were well cut up and it was v mucky.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 07, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
Mr Rois did the half in 1.56 and said the weather wasn't too bad for that. He loved the event. Paths were well cut up and it was v mucky.

Going to head out and do a 10+ miler, going to keep the pace around 7.5 minute miles and see how I feel, will put the heart rate monitor on and see at that speed, what the rate is. Looks like a lovely morning so no excuses big hill on way home but sure can't have a down hill race. I hear Lisburn is hilly enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 08, 2014, 10:39:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 07, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
Mr Rois did the half in 1.56 and said the weather wasn't too bad for that. He loved the event. Paths were well cut up and it was v mucky.

Going to head out and do a 10+ miler, going to keep the pace around 7.5 minute miles and see how I feel, will put the heart rate monitor on and see at that speed, what the rate is. Looks like a lovely morning so no excuses big hill on way home but sure can't have a down hill race. I hear Lisburn is hilly enough

Nice 10k+ there on Annadale and Ravenhill to Forestside. Lovely morning. Just took it easy and tried to jog at a steady 7.30 minute mile rather than my usual 7mins for mile 1-3 and then falling apart in the last 2! Felt really comfortable and could have busted the last 2 km. Actually went faster than my last 3 chipped 10kms. Doesn't figure!

Spent 20minutes on the foam roller there before I went out and will do the same in ten minutes time before I cool too much. Think it's helping the glute. Will be happy to run Lisburn in 48 minutes given recent injuries.

How'd you get on this morning?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: CD on June 08, 2014, 10:39:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 07, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
Mr Rois did the half in 1.56 and said the weather wasn't too bad for that. He loved the event. Paths were well cut up and it was v mucky.

Going to head out and do a 10+ miler, going to keep the pace around 7.5 minute miles and see how I feel, will put the heart rate monitor on and see at that speed, what the rate is. Looks like a lovely morning so no excuses big hill on way home but sure can't have a down hill race. I hear Lisburn is hilly enough

Nice 10k+ there on Annadale and Ravenhill to Forestside. Lovely morning. Just took it easy and tried to jog at a steady 7.30 minute mile rather than my usual 7mins for mile 1-3 and then falling apart in the last 2! Felt really comfortable and could have busted the last 2 km. Actually went faster than my last 3 chipped 10kms. Doesn't figure!

Spent 20minutes on the foam roller there before I went out and will do the same in ten minutes time before I cool too much. Think it's helping the glute. Will be happy to run Lisburn in 48 minutes given recent injuries.

How'd you get on this morning?

Well done and 48 is very doable at this stage (providing no more slip ups)

Just back from run, managed to complete it in 1.43 minutes flat. I reckon I could have finished quicker but as I live near the top of the Jordanstown road I knew I had to finish on a 1.1 mile hill climb. I'll up load my garmin later to check the times/laps but a few things I noticed, cardio wise I'm grand no ill effects at all, right knee started to ache after about 9/10 miles and my thighs are a bit sore but starting to feel grand now.

I know the Lisburn is hilly so I'll be happy to finish on a similar time. would love 1.42 but will settle for anything under 1.45 given the type of route

Oh and my heart rate was sitting at 147bpm more or less the whole time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.

Brilliant running, how did you feel afters? seeing you have been busy all week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.

Brilliant running, how did you feel afters? seeing you have been busy all week?

At 2 miles I thought I would be turning back to be honest, but I just kept at it. At the end it I probably could have gone on a bit more but not much. My right foot was getting sore, which is new, and my right achilles and calf were complaining, which isn't. I think I will be able to step up and do a half marathon distance soon, but I am afraid to think of going further.

And I am definitely not looking at Dublin in October (yet)!

I still think I will do a recovery run tomorrow though. Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
0km today. Further updates later in the week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
0km today. Further updates later in the week.

A good start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.

Brilliant running, how did you feel afters? seeing you have been busy all week?

At 2 miles I thought I would be turning back to be honest, but I just kept at it. At the end it I probably could have gone on a bit more but not much. My right foot was getting sore, which is new, and my right achilles and calf were complaining, which isn't. I think I will be able to step up and do a half marathon distance soon, but I am afraid to think of going further.

And I am definitely not looking at Dublin in October (yet)!

I still think I will do a recovery run tomorrow though. Am I crazy?

I'm doing a spinning class which I like doing after a decent run as a recovery. Though I've reserve hurling match to play, so hopefully I'll be grand.

Just checked my strava account, I'd 10 miles done in 1.17, the last 3 miles took me 26 minutes!!! Though last mile and bit was a complete bollox up hill. You be finishing the half in under 2 hrs muppet. are you using strava? some of the lads are on it here under the GAA BOARD name
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.

Brilliant running, how did you feel afters? seeing you have been busy all week?

At 2 miles I thought I would be turning back to be honest, but I just kept at it. At the end it I probably could have gone on a bit more but not much. My right foot was getting sore, which is new, and my right achilles and calf were complaining, which isn't. I think I will be able to step up and do a half marathon distance soon, but I am afraid to think of going further.

And I am definitely not looking at Dublin in October (yet)!

I still think I will do a recovery run tomorrow though. Am I crazy?

I'm doing a spinning class which I like doing after a decent run as a recovery. Though I've reserve hurling match to play, so hopefully I'll be grand.

Just checked my strava account, I'd 10 miles done in 1.17, the last 3 miles took me 26 minutes!!! Though last mile and bit was a complete bollox up hill. You be finishing the half in under 2 hrs muppet. are you using strava? some of the lads are on it here under the GAA BOARD name

Never heard of it. I will check it out now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on June 08, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Broke my 10k PB tonight by 30 seconds...am bloody delighted. The missus bought me a garmin 110 with a heart monitor...just started using it and it's great foe keeping the pace up...now I need to get the heart monitor up and running... Any advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2014, 10:20:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
Did a 10 miles run today.

My phone app didn't track me properly (it died before the end also) so I had no idea of pace but the heart monitor app worked so I was in the mid 140s all of the time. I have a garmin watch as a back up which is set in miles.

1:34:14 for the 10 miles and I noticed passing 9.4 miles (15k or so) in 1:28:20 which I am particularly happy about as I didn't feel as full of running as I have lately. I think I am probably getting towards overdoing it now. I have run 6 of the last 7 days and have 52kms in that time.

Brilliant running, how did you feel afters? seeing you have been busy all week?

At 2 miles I thought I would be turning back to be honest, but I just kept at it. At the end it I probably could have gone on a bit more but not much. My right foot was getting sore, which is new, and my right achilles and calf were complaining, which isn't. I think I will be able to step up and do a half marathon distance soon, but I am afraid to think of going further.

And I am definitely not looking at Dublin in October (yet)!

I still think I will do a recovery run tomorrow though. Am I crazy?

I'm doing a spinning class which I like doing after a decent run as a recovery. Though I've reserve hurling match to play, so hopefully I'll be grand.

Just checked my strava account, I'd 10 miles done in 1.17, the last 3 miles took me 26 minutes!!! Though last mile and bit was a complete bollox up hill. You be finishing the half in under 2 hrs muppet. are you using strava? some of the lads are on it here under the GAA BOARD name

Never heard of it. I will check it out now.

Muppet i would maybe take a day off especially if achilles complaining... I would recommend plenty of stretching with your calves. Rule of thumb... No more than 20% increase per week. You're going well - many people do too much too soon so just be wary of that...

Did about 9.5 or so today fast enough. Had a bad last 2 weeks so was happy enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2014, 10:25:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
0km today. Further updates later in the week.
You must have at least clocked up a few yards going from the couch to the fridge and back again.
Went a short jaunt with the weans on the bikes but wouldn't even have been 2 miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2014, 10:25:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
0km today. Further updates later in the week.
You must have at least clocked up a few yards going from the couch to the fridge and back again.
Went a short jaunt with the weans on the bikes but wouldn't even have been 2 miles.

Good man, a start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
running.competitor.com/2014/06/training/train-slower-race-faster_52242#WjrLywfFm4zFDAVg.01 (http://running.competitor.com/2014/06/training/train-slower-race-faster_52242#WjrLywfFm4zFDAVg.01)

Good article on training paces etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 09, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
Been avoiding this thread for a while as I haven't been able to go for a run for a week now and it doesn't make it easier reading the last few pages. Have a nagging bollix of a cold/sore throat that is lingering after I did my 10k pb and had a sick wife/child also so last week was a mess. Hoping to get out for a few miles tomorrow evening and pick it up from there, hope I haven't regressed too much. Seems just when I'm really getting going I get some sort of a dose, need to look at that.

Well done to all on the PB's in the last week. Brilliant stuff.

LL - I did get the Lidl Heart Rate monitor but haven't tried it out yet. How's it going for you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 09, 2014, 10:08:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 08, 2014, 10:20:37 PM
Muppet i would maybe take a day off especially if achilles complaining... I would recommend plenty of stretching with your calves. Rule of thumb... No more than 20% increase per week. You're going well - many people do too much too soon so just be wary of that...

Did about 9.5 or so today fast enough. Had a bad last 2 weeks so was happy enough.

I took your advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
The heart monitor is really just to gauge effort and force you to discipline yourself to it BM. Once you get into it a bit you can tell yourself anyway but it's a good barometer / tutor for you to begin with. I would use the monitor on tempos all the time but maybe not so much outside of that. Once drift starts would slow down a bit.

Good man muppet - you need a break every now and again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
For me the perfect recovery from the runs is spinning the next night, though at lunchtime I managed to do 40 lengths (gearing up for another tri soon)at the pool which was good,  but spinning at the gym is great (for me) to loosen up the muscles, had a great, well more a torrid time with the foam roller afterwards, ironed out all those wee aches, was painful but feel grand now. Cant recommend the roller high enough (thanks to BM, and Tommy on that)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 10, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
First outing with the heart rate monitor this evening after work. After a 9 day layoff, still not feeling 100% and a few pains from being pressed into junior football action last Sunday I was worried I would have a bad outing. Made a balls of my calculations and aimed to keep under 160 bpm. Was going to do 7k with the option of 10k if it was going ok. It was seriously slow!!!!! However, it felt great once I got into it and I went on and covered the 10k. Probably a bit too much coming back off a break but feck it, I'll be sound.

Think I should have been aiming at 170 ish (220-38-60)*0.9 + 60 = 169.8 which would probably have had me around a minute to 90 secs/mile slower than my best 10k pace but in the circumstances it was probably no harm to keep the effort at a lower rate.

By the ay it worked perfectly. I just used it to see what my heart rate was, didn't bother setting target zones etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 10, 2014, 10:11:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 10, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
First outing with the heart rate monitor this evening after work. After a 9 day layoff, still not feeling 100% and a few pains from being pressed into junior football action last Sunday I was worried I would have a bad outing. Made a balls of my calculations and aimed to keep under 160 bpm. Was going to do 7k with the option of 10k if it was going ok. It was seriously slow!!!!! However, it felt great once I got into it and I went on and covered the 10k. Probably a bit too much coming back off a break but feck it, I'll be sound.

Think I should have been aiming at 170 ish (220-38-60)*0.9 + 60 = 169.8 which would probably have had me around a minute to 90 secs/mile slower than my best 10k pace but in the circumstances it was probably no harm to keep the effort at a lower rate.

By the ay it worked perfectly. I just used it to see what my heart rate was, didn't bother setting target zones etc.

I'll bow to the other lads knowledge on here, but running at 90% or 170 as you calculated would be race pace I think. Running at 82% (by my calculations) or 160 bpm would be still close to race pace territory. I know it sounds mad but the recovery stuff would be slower at 70% or 145 bpm maximum. If you thought 160bmp was slow wait till you run at 145.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 10, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
Ah jaysus - I'd still be fecking running if I kept it down to 145!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 10, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 10, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
Ah jaysus - I'd still be fecking running if I kept it down to 145!

That is the idea behind the recovery runs. I am now up to 5 days a week. 3 of those are probably recovery runs and the times for them now match my PBs from 3 months ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 10, 2014, 10:27:10 PM
If you doing a recovery run, would your distance not be much lower? 4/5/6km be the height of it when I do them. I'd throw in 8 80m strides at the end of the run - 80m sprints that focus on running form. Great leg and lung opener and over that distance very doable.

Not every recovery run but every other one is grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 10:28:40 PM
90% is basically as fast as you can go seanie which in my view is too fast for a training run.... You go anaerobic and are too wrecked to get real value...

70% and below is a recovery run. It seems slow to begin with but give it a blast for a while. While it feels slow your fitness willl benefit massively massively from it and you will speed up in no time.145 seems abiut right.

Fyi 80-85% is what's known as a tempo run. 20-25 minutes of that once a week is enough however these are much better after getting the fitness up with 70% ..

Bingo recovery is just about low effort levels. I would do 6 or 7 mile recovery but all relative to mileage i guess...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
My average heart rate for half marathon was 147bpm and that was for a decent (for me) time. Cardio wise I was well able to carry on, legs/joints was different matter altogether.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 10, 2014, 11:47:43 PM
LL, you can reverse engineer it.
The next time you race a 5k wear the HRM, whatever u go at there is ur lactate threshold, work it out from there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 11:54:38 PM
Your race pace isn't lactate threshold pace... If it is you're not racing hard enough!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 11, 2014, 08:45:01 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 10, 2014, 10:54:29 PM
Seanie Im not sure if those watches we bought are calibrated correctly.
I went for a run tonight and the watch was telling me I was in 92% zone. I was only running at just over 6 minute km which felt very slow,but no matter how much I slowed the watch never dropped below about 80%.

As far as I can make out the watch calculates your maximum heart rate from the info you enter ie age,height and weight.
I don't think from what I have been reading that this is a accurate way of calculating max HR.

I'm guessing if the watch is off then so will the displayed heart rate.
As of yet I can't find anywhere on the watch to input your max hr manually.

Yeah - the % shown on the watch is % of your max heart rate.

I'll stick with it and we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 03, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Thanks Ballinaman

I'm going to target under 40 - hopefully I can do it!

Jebus man there will be a thousand people behind you! And that is assuming only 1,500 start.

Sorry dunno think the Irish Runner title put me off when I read it to myself again after I booked it. Started to think 'Irish runner' and picture myself with 300 athletes all doin this in under 30.

But I'm more calm now.

I'm about 1 month into the running (with a reasonable base of fitness due to previous football training). I did a six mile run last Friday in 48.04 (5 mile split 40:28) so assuming the course is not mental tough I would say its a very doable time for me.

Hopefully!

I'm going back ways in my times however I didn't get out for a week because I was getting over man flu as the missus puts it.

Ran 6.25 mile last night 52:50 (5 mile split 41:37). I doubt if I will be able to go sub 40:00 within two weeks now!  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 11:07:38 AM
I wouldn't beat yourself up about it...

Sub 40 is a very tough goal and one that not that many people get. You need to put in a fair bit of work at the running to be hitting times like that.  If you don't get it this time it's something to aim for at least.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 12, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
WT4E,

I'd also add that if you going for each run and targeting running at race pace and race distance, you will struggle to improve. This will mean you are always running at a hard pace and this will make recovery harder and result in tiredness and fatigue when you do your next session.

I'd advise slowing down, mix up the training a bit and build on the mileage. You need a structure to the training. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
D'oh 40 minutes for a 5 miler.

Ignore me - slightly more manageable - hadn't read back and thought it was 10k!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 11:30:59 AM
So do you think could I knock 2 mins off that in 2 weeks?

I was feeling pretty happy before I had to stop for a week.

Bingo,
I'm using a running programme which ranges from 3 - 8 mile over 5/6week period with rest days etc too - just happened to be the 6 mile run last night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 12, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 11:30:59 AM
So do you think could I knock 2 mins off that in 2 weeks?

I was feeling pretty happy before I had to stop for a week.

Bingo,
I'm using a running programme which ranges from 3 - 8 mile over 5/6week period with rest days etc too - just happened to be the 6 mile run last night.

You'll be grand then. Its very achieveable and in a race situation you can generally get extra outa of yourself. I'm sure you've been told the golden rule when racing is to control the pace at the start, not go slow but stay within your required pace. Too fast too soon can take the wind outa the sail for later in the race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 12, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 11:30:59 AM
So do you think could I knock 2 mins off that in 2 weeks?

I was feeling pretty happy before I had to stop for a week.

Bingo,
I'm using a running programme which ranges from 3 - 8 mile over 5/6week period with rest days etc too - just happened to be the 6 mile run last night.

You'll be grand then. Its very achieveable and in a race situation you can generally get extra outa of yourself. I'm sure you've been told the golden rule when racing is to control the pace at the start, not go slow but stay within your required pace. Too fast too soon can take the wind outa the sail for later in the race.

Yeah good advice I will probably have to keep that in mind. I have only ever really been in one race in recent memory a few years back!  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
Does the 5 miler have pacers at it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
Does the 5 miler have pacers at it?

???

I'm a total green horn but what is this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
Does the 5 miler have pacers at it?

???

I'm a total green horn but what is this?

Pacers being fella's that run in the race to certain times, giving 'normal' runners an idea of pace and time of finish. Generally a guy/girl with a bib on saying 30 mins 35 mins 40mins get my drift?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 01:52:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 12, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
Does the 5 miler have pacers at it?

???

I'm a total green horn but what is this?

Pacers being fella's that run in the race to certain times, giving 'normal' runners an idea of pace and time of finish. Generally a guy/girl with a bib on saying 30 mins 35 mins 40mins get my drift?

Ah right - Very good - do they have them in this race as previously asked?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
Not every race - some of the big races though. Not sure to be honest as have only raced a couple of times down south and they organise things much better than up here!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Don't think there are any. Must be specific to marathons or halfs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 12, 2014, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Don't think there are any. Must be specific to marathons or halfs.

Getting more common it seems. A 10k in a few weeks where I'm from and they are going to have 45/50/55 min pacers. Going to try and hang with the 55 minute guy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 12, 2014, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Don't think there are any. Must be specific to marathons or halfs.

Getting more common it seems. A 10k in a few weeks where I'm from and they are going to have 45/50/55 min pacers. Going to try and hang with the 55 minute guy.

At last couple of 10k's I'd done to recently
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 12, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Terenure 5 mile had pacers and the Clontarf 5 mile will have pacers.

I might go for broke and start with the 40 min one and see how it goes. I hardly finish with him/her though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2014, 09:20:19 AM
Out this morning for 6 miles, did it at pace I'll be looking to do over the half, while it was flat I finished at 43mins be happy to keep that pace on Wed
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 13, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
We'll done all, great motivation, to the point I have been embarrassed coming on to this thread for the past month or 2. Have been very slack since the 10k in March.

Finally got off my ass and out yesterday for a slow (tough) 11k. Started the Hal Higdon program for the Brisbane half on 3 August so hopefully that's me back on track! Today was stretching and strength only so handy day to get started, looking forward to getting back in to it!

Got great news, picked up a job at home. Unfortunately means I'll miss the Brisbane half, was well on track, half 14km race on Sunday. Anyway, can anyone advise of websites at home with race calendar, wouldn't mind still looking at a half round August/September.

Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 13, 2014, 09:38:09 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 13, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
We'll done all, great motivation, to the point I have been embarrassed coming on to this thread for the past month or 2. Have been very slack since the 10k in March.

Finally got off my ass and out yesterday for a slow (tough) 11k. Started the Hal Higdon program for the Brisbane half on 3 August so hopefully that's me back on track! Today was stretching and strength only so handy day to get started, looking forward to getting back in to it!

Got great news, picked up a job at home. Unfortunately means I'll miss the Brisbane half, was well on track, half 14km race on Sunday. Anyway, can anyone advise of websites at home with race calendar, wouldn't mind still looking at a half round August/September.

Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.

Mid Louth is very helpful ask him! lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on June 13, 2014, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 13, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
We'll done all, great motivation, to the point I have been embarrassed coming on to this thread for the past month or 2. Have been very slack since the 10k in March.

Finally got off my ass and out yesterday for a slow (tough) 11k. Started the Hal Higdon program for the Brisbane half on 3 August so hopefully that's me back on track! Today was stretching and strength only so handy day to get started, looking forward to getting back in to it!

Athletic NI has a race calendar and carries results as well.
Got great news, picked up a job at home. Unfortunately means I'll miss the Brisbane half, was well on track, half 14km race on Sunday. Anyway, can anyone advise of websites at home with race calendar, wouldn't mind still looking at a half round August/September.

Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 13, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 13, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
We'll done all, great motivation, to the point I have been embarrassed coming on to this thread for the past month or 2. Have been very slack since the 10k in March.

Finally got off my ass and out yesterday for a slow (tough) 11k. Started the Hal Higdon program for the Brisbane half on 3 August so hopefully that's me back on track! Today was stretching and strength only so handy day to get started, looking forward to getting back in to it!

Got great news, picked up a job at home. Unfortunately means I'll miss the Brisbane half, was well on track, half 14km race on Sunday. Anyway, can anyone advise of websites at home with race calendar, wouldn't mind still looking at a half round August/September.

Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.
Dublin half marathon is in September. The Run Ireland website has all the races and dates on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 13, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.

Me and a mate are organising it for the Festival Committee with a lot of help from East Down AC. It would be great if you can make it, no better way to start off a Bank Holiday Weekend! AthleticsNI or Nirunning have two excellent websites for fixtures, results etc. The Belfast Half is on in mid September and last years race was a great event.  You can enter online now for the Strangford 10k, make yourself known afterwards and I'll shout you a pint!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2014, 11:06:26 AM
Cracking morning, knocked out 6 miles, picked a hilly wee route in prep for wed night in Lisburn. Feeling ok hopefully I won't go off to quick, wife hates that lol ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 15, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: No1 on June 13, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Also No1, who is running the Strangford 10km, wouldn't mind doing it and could get a few pints after and stay at the wife's home place.

Me and a mate are organising it for the Festival Committee with a lot of help from East Down AC. It would be great if you can make it, no better way to start off a Bank Holiday Weekend! AthleticsNI or Nirunning have two excellent websites for fixtures, results etc. The Belfast Half is on in mid September and last years race was a great event.  You can enter online now for the Strangford 10k, make yourself known afterwards and I'll shout you a pint!

Cheers lad, I'll be there! Did my 14k in 1:02:33 today, very happy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 15, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Anyone registered for the Belfast Half Marathon yet?

Is it possible to register without paying the £2.50 transaction fee? Really resent paying a fee for an online payment. Just an add-on with no justification.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Well I've just gone and done the most stupid thing I've ever done...
I've officially signed up for the Dublin Marathon. :-\

Week 1 training starts tomorrow week.
To make sure I don't quit half way thru training I am going to run in aid of the Down Syndrome Centre in Sandyford.
I've already informed them and a fund raising pack is on the way to me so it will be added incentive for me to keep going and actually do the thing!

Anyone else signed up or going to sign up?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on June 16, 2014, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Well I've just gone and done the most stupid thing I've ever done...
I've officially signed up for the Dublin Marathon. :-\

Week 1 training starts tomorrow week.
To make sure I don't quit half way thru training I am going to run in aid of the Down Syndrome Centre in Sandyford.
I've already informed them and a fund raising pack is on the way to me so it will be added incentive for me to keep going and actually do the thing!

Anyone else signed up or going to sign up?

I'm very tempted LL!  Which plan are you following?  Is this your first marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on June 16, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
LL, I plan to do it with a couple of friends. I should have more sense but I have a fair amount of respect for your attitude to many things so if you're in,so am I.Will wait until 31st July to enter in case Down go on a late run which could impact on the training schedule!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 01:15:49 PM

Mb80b60 yeah I'm a virgin Marathoner. I only started running 12 months ago.
It would be great if I could finish the marathon as quick as I did when I lost my other virginity  ;D

I'm going to follow Hal Higdon intermediate 1 training plan
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
I'm going to change the cross training part of the programme and do interval training instead.

I like doing the intervals and I feel it would be more beneficial than the cross training. I may throw in a few hill repeats as I get further into the training.
For now my goal is to just finish the bloody thing. I have no time goal in mind but that may change when I see how the training is going.

Quote from: Dubh driocht on June 16, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
LL, I plan to do it with a couple of friends. I should have more sense but I have a fair amount of respect for your attitude to many things so if you're in,so am I.Will wait until 31st July to enter in case Down go on a late run which could impact on the training schedule!

Cheers,but are you sure your not confusing me for someone else! :D
Best of luck with it if you do decide to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 01:15:49 PM

Mb80b60 yeah I'm a virgin Marathoner. I only started running 12 months ago.
It would be great if I could finish the marathon as quick as I did when I lost my other virginity  ;D

I'm going to follow Hal Higdon intermediate 1 training plan
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
I'm going to change the cross training part of the programme and do interval training instead.

I like doing the intervals and I feel it would be more beneficial than the cross training. I may throw in a few hill repeats as I get further into the training.
For now my goal is to just finish the bloody thing. I have no time goal in mind but that may change when I see how the training is going.

Quote from: Dubh driocht on June 16, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
LL, I plan to do it with a couple of friends. I should have more sense but I have a fair amount of respect for your attitude to many things so if you're in,so am I.Will wait until 31st July to enter in case Down go on a late run which could impact on the training schedule!

Cheers,but are you sure your not confusing me for someone else! :D
Best of luck with it if you do decide to do it.

The cross training is to get yourself away from running and the impact. I would suggest not changing that as I think it is ideal for injury proofing etc in these programmes...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on June 16, 2014, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Well I've just gone and done the most stupid thing I've ever done...
I've officially signed up for the Dublin Marathon. :-\

Week 1 training starts tomorrow week.
To make sure I don't quit half way thru training I am going to run in aid of the Down Syndrome Centre in Sandyford.
I've already informed them and a fund raising pack is on the way to me so it will be added incentive for me to keep going and actually do the thing!

Anyone else signed up or going to sign up?
Fair play laoislad.  Im very close to signing up at this stage.  been running this last 6 weeks and its been going well enough.  Aiming at 10 miles this weekend and if I can get to half marathon distance before August I definitely will sign up.  Would be my first one so I'm probably dreaming that I can get round at this stage
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 01:15:49 PM

Mb80b60 yeah I'm a virgin Marathoner. I only started running 12 months ago.
It would be great if I could finish the marathon as quick as I did when I lost my other virginity  ;D

I'm going to follow Hal Higdon intermediate 1 training plan
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
I'm going to change the cross training part of the programme and do interval training instead.

I like doing the intervals and I feel it would be more beneficial than the cross training. I may throw in a few hill repeats as I get further into the training.
For now my goal is to just finish the bloody thing. I have no time goal in mind but that may change when I see how the training is going.

Quote from: Dubh driocht on June 16, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
LL, I plan to do it with a couple of friends. I should have more sense but I have a fair amount of respect for your attitude to many things so if you're in,so am I.Will wait until 31st July to enter in case Down go on a late run which could impact on the training schedule!

Cheers,but are you sure your not confusing me for someone else! :D
Best of luck with it if you do decide to do it.

The cross training is to get yourself away from running and the impact. I would suggest not changing that as I think it is ideal for injury proofing etc in these programmes...
Fair enough. Advice always welcome thanks.
Would it be ok to swap a mid week run for a interval session every other week or so?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 01:15:49 PM

Mb80b60 yeah I'm a virgin Marathoner. I only started running 12 months ago.
It would be great if I could finish the marathon as quick as I did when I lost my other virginity  ;D

I'm going to follow Hal Higdon intermediate 1 training plan
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
I'm going to change the cross training part of the programme and do interval training instead.

I like doing the intervals and I feel it would be more beneficial than the cross training. I may throw in a few hill repeats as I get further into the training.
For now my goal is to just finish the bloody thing. I have no time goal in mind but that may change when I see how the training is going.

Quote from: Dubh driocht on June 16, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
LL, I plan to do it with a couple of friends. I should have more sense but I have a fair amount of respect for your attitude to many things so if you're in,so am I.Will wait until 31st July to enter in case Down go on a late run which could impact on the training schedule!

Cheers,but are you sure your not confusing me for someone else! :D
Best of luck with it if you do decide to do it.

The cross training is to get yourself away from running and the impact. I would suggest not changing that as I think it is ideal for injury proofing etc in these programmes...
Fair enough. Advice always welcome thanks.
Would it be ok to swap a mid week run for a interval session every other week or so?

Is there a link to this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Ll i'd say that would be ok. The cross training day is what's called active rest so the body gets rest from impact but not from fitness benefit.

Would say substitute tuesday as it's a shorter day. Try and stick to the mileage- e.g if intervals take you over tuesday run go under wednesday or vice versa.

The thing to be wary of with intervals is if you do them too hard you'll leave yourself tired for the other miles and will get less benefit. So i'd say start with low reps and build up. No matter how many reps go for same pace. E.g if week 1 is 2x400 do them at same pace you would do 8x400 and don't sprint...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
Injury proofing perhaps wrong term mr... Injury prevention i guess better term. Gets fitness with less repetitive strain plus will use similar but different muscles... Active rest really.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
Injury proofing perhaps wrong term mr... Injury prevention i guess better term. Gets fitness with less repetitive strain plus will use similar but different muscles... Active rest really.

Ok things like, spinning, rowing or swimming ? What about leg weight training? I'm always aching after doing some leg work (don't do enough though)

I've generally done 12 miles during the week and maybe 6 to 10 at weekend outside for past 4 years, but have upped it recently for the Lisburn half. I just want to maybe/possibly do a full one but would need to add on a few miles a week, cardio I'm grand but would have an ache that would slow me down, but as you've said before I need to slowly build up the miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
There's a balance mr and it depends what you're looking for... All that minus the leg weights would help running.  Leg weights at the end of a session probably ok but mainly core strength rather than weights aid the running.

If you're doing a load of fitness stuff you could get away with 3-4 times a week but shirk the running and you'll hit that wall sooner than you should...

Main thing is to get the key running sessions in. Long an absolute must. Tempo would help. Like you say build it up though. Something like the long runs on that plan ll has would be a good basis.

12 in one go or in several goes??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
There's a balance mr and it depends what you're looking for... All that minus the leg weights would help running.  Leg weights at the end of a session probably ok but mainly core strength rather than weights aid the running.

If you're doing a load of fitness stuff you could get away with 3-4 times a week but shirk the running and you'll hit that wall sooner than you should...

Main thing is to get the key running sessions in. Long an absolute must. Tempo would help. Like you say build it up though. Something like the long runs on that plan ll has would be a good basis.

12 in one go or in several goes??

Before a session at the gym I generally do 5k (21min) so I'd do that 4 times a week. Looking to cut out some other stuff and increase the distances for running, I've  few things coming up so I'm cycling, swimming a lot more, not focusing on one thing is my main fault
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 10:51:56 PM
Yeah i know a good few like that. Fitness will get you far but miles a must for the marathon. You could get away with 3-4 times week but would recommend more...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2014, 10:51:56 PM
Yeah i know a good few like that. Fitness will get you far but miles a must for the marathon. You could get away with 3-4 times week but would recommend more...

Aye, I've a big running mate who's reining me in all the time and telling me small increments all the time. Legs feel sore around the 11 mile mark. After Wed I'll decide on a marathon or not this year. Job wise I could be changing, or not, come September so things (training wise) could change.
Title: Lisburn
Post by: No1 on June 18, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
Gonna be seriously warm for Lisburn tonight, thank f**k I'm only doing the 10k! Good luck to the half marathon lads!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 11:29:03 AM
Should be ok by that time of evening...

Last year was same conditions and wasn't too bad.

Good luck to all running.

There are a good few water stations from what I recall.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
Wear your GAA top with pride tonight
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 18, 2014, 11:33:11 AM
Quote from: Orior on June 18, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
Wear your GAA top with pride tonight
*Avoid 90s cotton style if possible.

Best of luck lads...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
BM, when would you recommend starting training for the marathon?
Was talking to Maria McC last nite and she said August 1st which I thought was a bit late but shes the expert I suppose.

Anyway it looks like my triathlon and cycling seasons are over with the shoulder injury so may as well do the marathon (although I swore the last time never again)

At this stage I'd be hoping for somewhere close to the three hours  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
She's also just run 33 odd for a 10k so I suspect her starting fitness is a bit better than the average...

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 18, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
BM, when would you recommend starting training for the marathon?
Was talking to Maria McC last nite and she said August 1st which I thought was a bit late but shes the expert I suppose.

Anyway it looks like my triathlon and cycling seasons are over with the shoulder injury so may as well do the marathon (although I swore the last time never again)

At this stage I'd be hoping for somewhere close to the three hours  :o :o :o :o
I started yesterday....it's 19 weeks from last Monday. July the 1st would be latest , that's when I started in 2012 and that had 2 weeks of non stop drinking in Poland as preparation too. ;D

As tommy said, she's got natural ability and a rest training week for her would be more than what the majority do!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2014, 12:04:04 PM
I'd beg to differ on the training dates  :)

I started last year on my programme for the marathon on the August bank holiday, was also the first day of the holidays down in East Cork. I'd a clear 12 week programme from that and stuck to it. Mind you that was my third marathon on the spin - Dublin 12, Connemara spring 13 and then Dublin. I eased off over the summer as I felt wrecked after Connemara.

In the run up to the start, I was doing a bit, maybe 3 runs a week, mostly short stuff. Didn't "race" over the summer at all.

This year will do mostly the same although have a local 10mile race at the end of July. Till then I'll run 3/4 times a week with a long run at weekend, 10 miles.

I find with my base and loose target that a 12 week programme will do for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
I heard he won 12.5 k last year in prize money Bingo...

Based on that draw your own conclusions!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 16, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Well I've just gone and done the most stupid thing I've ever done...
I've officially signed up for the Dublin Marathon. :-\

Week 1 training starts tomorrow week.
To make sure I don't quit half way thru training I am going to run in aid of the Down Syndrome Centre in Sandyford.
I've already informed them and a fund raising pack is on the way to me so it will be added incentive for me to keep going and actually do the thing!

Anyone else signed up or going to sign up?

Good man. Best of luck with that.

I haven't ruled my self out completely yet, but I don't think it is realistic this year for me. After over an hour running my sore achilles becomes a sore lower calf as well. I can't imagine how it would be after 3 or 4 hours.
Title: Re: Lisburn
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 18, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
Gonna be seriously warm for Lisburn tonight, thank f**k I'm only doing the 10k! Good luck to the half marathon lads!

Should be plenty of shaded parts I'd imagine ? 26 degrees in the car now :(, will head soon to get ready, been drinking plenty water last few days so plenty hydrated, hate getting water in those wee cups, whatever way I try and drink it, it nearly chokes me lol

Going to stick with the 1.45 pacer till about 2 miles or so out and see if I can push on, if there is a 1.40 pacer I'll try and stick with him the whole way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Just going for a sub 3hr are we Mayo4Sam?
Ya big snail...!


I'm doing an 18 week program starting next week.
Fair hot out there at the moment wouldn't be too keen trying to run in it.

Hard and low LL!

The McMillian calculator tells me 3:01/02 based on my 5k times, so why not aim to bring it in under 3.

In fairness my mileage is about 40-50k per week with a longest run of 24k so I've a good base for the mileage, its the pace I'm worried about
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Just going for a sub 3hr are we Mayo4Sam?
Ya big snail...!


I'm doing an 18 week program starting next week.
Fair hot out there at the moment wouldn't be too keen trying to run in it.

Hard and low LL!

The McMillian calculator tells me 3:01/02 based on my 5k times, so why not aim to bring it in under 3.

In fairness my mileage is about 40-50k per week with a longest run of 24k so I've a good base for the mileage, its the pace I'm worried about

Can you base it over your 5k's? do you not get progressively slower that longer the race goes?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
It takes it into account

https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
It takes it into account

https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Erm.. It's giving me a Marathon time of 4:01  :o
Not a hope of that happening.!

giving me

Marathon

3:36:46

pace
8:16
Title: Re: Lisburn
Post by: CD on June 18, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 18, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
Gonna be seriously warm for Lisburn tonight, thank f**k I'm only doing the 10k! Good luck to the half marathon lads!

Should be plenty of shaded parts I'd imagine ? 26 degrees in the car now :(, will head soon to get ready, been drinking plenty water last few days so plenty hydrated, hate getting water in those wee cups, whatever way I try and drink it, it nearly chokes me lol

Going to stick with the 1.45 pacer till about 2 miles or so out and see if I can push on, if there is a 1.40 pacer I'll try and stick with him the whole way

Good luck this evening lads - it's going to be like an endurance race given the temperature! Definitely not going to be attempting a 10km PB in that heat  - going to go out slow and see where I am after mile 2.
Best of luck especially to the 1/2 marathon runners!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
He seems to do what is necessary in races like that bingo. No harm to the guy in 2nd at newry who's very good but he'd be a good bit of O'Hanlon. I think O'Hanlon sat for ages and pushed on. He did about 4 consecutive weekend marathons round then so you'd need to take it easy in a few to make the most of it in the others when the bigger hitters are in there. Fair play to him - we'd all do it and earn that much money from it if we could!!

If you finish top 10 in dublin you get a good whack of money plus you are likely to get a time bonus for sub 2:30 so you could hit 3-4 k for it.

Macmilan guides are well and good but depend a lot on conditioning and there are considerably more mental aspects to marathon than the shorter stuff... Half times 2 plus 10 minutes a good barometer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
He seems to do what is necessary in races like that bingo. No harm to the guy in 2nd at newry who's very good but he'd be a good bit of O'Hanlon. I think O'Hanlon sat for ages and pushed on. He did about 4 consecutive weekend marathons round then so you'd need to take it easy in a few to make the most of it in the others when the bigger hitters are in there. Fair play to him - we'd all do it and earn that much money from it if we could!!

If you finish top 10 in dublin you get a good whack of money plus you are likely to get a time bonus for sub 2:30 so you could hit 3-4 k for it.

Macmilan guides are well and good but depend a lot on conditioning and there are considerably more mental aspects to marathon than the shorter stuff... Half times 2 plus 10 minutes a good barometer.

Yeah, he was very clearly holding a comfortable pace in newry and his winning time was well outside his other faster times. I just often wondered how quick he could go if he focused more on racing less. I'm sure he has considered this and that the gulf to where he thinks he could go is and what would be needed is too much. I believe he went for a sub 2.20 time in Rotterdam this year but it just didn't happen.

I won an Easter egg in a 10km and was thrilled to bits with that, so I'm sure he knows what he is at and getting rewarded for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
It takes it into account

https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Erm.. It's giving me a Marathon time of 4:01  :o
Not a hope of that happening.!

giving me

Marathon

3:36:46

pace
8:16


I put in my best 5k time and it said 4 hours flat.
Then I put in my best 10k time and it said 4:11.

If I put in my best 15k time it would probably be higher and so on until it got to 5 hours.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 18, 2014, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
It takes it into account

https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Erm.. It's giving me a Marathon time of 4:01  :o
Not a hope of that happening.!

giving me

Marathon

3:36:46

pace
8:16


I put in my best 5k time and it said 4 hours flat.
Then I put in my best 10k time and it said 4:11.

If I put in my best 15k time it would probably be higher and so on until it got to 5 hours.

I put in my last half marathon time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
I don't think that MacMillan site is realistic, I put in 20 mins for 800m, and where it should have said 'take up bridge ffs', it said my Marathon time would be 25 hours.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 18, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
He seems to do what is necessary in races like that bingo. No harm to the guy in 2nd at newry who's very good but he'd be a good bit of O'Hanlon. I think O'Hanlon sat for ages and pushed on. He did about 4 consecutive weekend marathons round then so you'd need to take it easy in a few to make the most of it in the others when the bigger hitters are in there. Fair play to him - we'd all do it and earn that much money from it if we could!!

If you finish top 10 in dublin you get a good whack of money plus you are likely to get a time bonus for sub 2:30 so you could hit 3-4 k for it.

Macmilan guides are well and good but depend a lot on conditioning and there are considerably more mental aspects to marathon than the shorter stuff... Half times 2 plus 10 minutes a good barometer.

Yeah, he was very clearly holding a comfortable pace in newry and his winning time was well outside his other faster times. I just often wondered how quick he could go if he focused more on racing less. I'm sure he has considered this and that the gulf to where he thinks he could go is and what would be needed is too much. I believe he went for a sub 2.20 time in Rotterdam this year but it just didn't happen.

I won an Easter egg in a 10km and was thrilled to bits with that, so I'm sure he knows what he is at and getting rewarded for it.

Yeah not won too much myself. Two parkruns, 150 quid voucher in marathon relay and a trophy for second in what would be my local 10k. Any real money and I'd be very happy!!

The macmillan thing basically doesn't scale. There are a lot of assumptions in it. Half marathon best barometer I'd say. 10k and 5k are just not comparable or I'd do sub 2:45 and there's no way in the world that's happening!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 18, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
He seems to do what is necessary in races like that bingo. No harm to the guy in 2nd at newry who's very good but he'd be a good bit of O'Hanlon. I think O'Hanlon sat for ages and pushed on. He did about 4 consecutive weekend marathons round then so you'd need to take it easy in a few to make the most of it in the others when the bigger hitters are in there. Fair play to him - we'd all do it and earn that much money from it if we could!!

If you finish top 10 in dublin you get a good whack of money plus you are likely to get a time bonus for sub 2:30 so you could hit 3-4 k for it.

Macmilan guides are well and good but depend a lot on conditioning and there are considerably more mental aspects to marathon than the shorter stuff... Half times 2 plus 10 minutes a good barometer.

Yeah, he was very clearly holding a comfortable pace in newry and his winning time was well outside his other faster times. I just often wondered how quick he could go if he focused more on racing less. I'm sure he has considered this and that the gulf to where he thinks he could go is and what would be needed is too much. I believe he went for a sub 2.20 time in Rotterdam this year but it just didn't happen.

I won an Easter egg in a 10km and was thrilled to bits with that, so I'm sure he knows what he is at and getting rewarded for it.

Yeah not won too much myself. Two parkruns, 150 quid voucher in marathon relay and a trophy for second in what would be my local 10k. Any real money and I'd be very happy!!

The macmillan thing basically doesn't scale. There are a lot of assumptions in it. Half marathon best barometer I'd say. 10k and 5k are just not comparable or I'd do sub 2:45 and there's no way in the world that's happening!!

Would agree on the McMillan  thing. My 5km is giving me 3.02 finish and that ain't happening. My half time gives me just over 3.15, which may well be my target for Dublin this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
Seems as if it's getting hotter ffs, right will have a comfort break, would hate to do a

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Kk6QZY5G_b8/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 18, 2014, 04:57:40 PM
my 5k and 10k pbs give me the same marathon time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 10:01:30 PM
That was a tough enough course, the heat was big factor too but I managed to finish in 1.39 by my watch which gave a overall distance of 13.23miles. But I think it will be a 1.40 officially, so still well happy with well over 2 mins of my pb.

Felt really strong in the second half of race, maybe a slow start, thought I'd stay with the 1.45 pacers but my legs wanted to go quicker so off I went. Great event with challenging hills. legs feel really good which is telling me I may have more in me, possible marathon maybe, I'll see
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 18, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 10:01:30 PM
That was a tough enough course, the heat was big factor too but I managed to finish in 1.39 by my watch which gave a overall distance of 13.23miles. But I think it will be a 1.40 officially, so still well happy with well over 2 mins of my pb.

Felt really strong in the second half of race, maybe a slow start, thought I'd stay with the 1.45 pacers but my legs wanted to go quicker so off I went. Great event with challenging hills. legs feel really good which is telling me I may have more in me, possible marathon maybe, I'll see
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Well done, I done the ten k, really struggled from about six k, walked for a bit hoping to get a second wind but I think that was the worst thing I could have done, finished in 56.15, my target was 55. A pb was there for the taking but I blew it. Anyway will persevere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on June 18, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 10:01:30 PM
That was a tough enough course, the heat was big factor too but I managed to finish in 1.39 by my watch which gave a overall distance of 13.23miles. But I think it will be a 1.40 officially, so still well happy with well over 2 mins of my pb.

Felt really strong in the second half of race, maybe a slow start, thought I'd stay with the 1.45 pacers but my legs wanted to go quicker so off I went. Great event with challenging hills. legs feel really good which is telling me I may have more in me, possible marathon maybe, I'll see


Well done, I done the ten k, really struggled from about six k, walked for a bit hoping to get a second wind but I think that was the worst thing I could have done, finished in 56.15, my target was 55. A pb was there for the taking but I blew it. Anyway will persevere.


Was surprised at some of the hills, well run event

I was talking to friends who clocked it longer than the half marathon distance, my Garmin gave me a half marathon time of 1.38, but I still happy with the official time. Some heat, Id sun cream on but I reckon it came off after about five minutes of running lol. Ive a head tan on my baldy head for sure
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
Well done guys. Results online at champiochipireland.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 18, 2014, 11:15:24 PM
Managed 47mins. Was really worried about the heat beforehand but was comfortable enough. Well done MR. Tough half in those conditions - very hilly and hot
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 18, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Absolutely super running MR2, especially in that heat. Time to look at a marathon if you were feeling strong after that!

10k PB for me with 43:33, absolutely delighted given the conditions. Mostly flat course in a brilliantly run event.

Charlie, you did well to get finished tonight and I am not being patronising. My first ever 10k race was completed in 56 odds and if you told me then that I would run a sub 44 I would have laughed my balls off! You will be amazed what you can achieve if you stick at it.

Ards Half and Scrabo Hill to look forward to next  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 18, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Absolutely super running MR2, especially in that heat. Time to look at a marathon if you were feeling strong after that!

10k PB for me with 43:33, absolutely delighted given the conditions. Mostly flat course in a brilliantly run event.

Charlie, you did well to get finished tonight and I am not being patronising. My first ever 10k race was completed in 56 odds and if you told me then that I would run a sub 44 I would have laughed my balls off! You will be amazed what you can achieve if you stick at it.

Ards Half and Scrabo Hill to look forward to next  :o

Not the conditions to be picking up PB's well done, I've an open water tri coming up so it's swimming for me and a bitta cycling to do, 11 days ffs!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 18, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
Well done all, great running, anyone not get a PB??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 19, 2014, 09:32:03 AM
Fair play lads, great stuff and its tough going in this weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 19, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 18, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
Well done all, great running, anyone not get a PB??

I didn't  :( Was 6 seconds slower than my last one. Still happy enough with 47.14 given the weather! Don't think I'm going to hit my sub 45 target this year - not too many events coming up locally that I know of - anyone recommend a couple of 10ks in July or August??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: CD on June 19, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 18, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
Well done all, great running, anyone not get a PB??

I didn't  :( Was 6 seconds slower than my last one. Still happy enough with 47.14 given the weather! Don't think I'm going to hit my sub 45 target this year - not too many events coming up locally that I know of - anyone recommend a couple of 10ks in July or August??

I'm sure the Ards half marathon will have a 10K in it, maybe not
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
No it doesn't...

July and AUgust fairly quiet for 10ks then there's a big race nearly every weekend in september. (2 good 10ks and 2 good half marathons)

Check out niathletics fixture list.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 19, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: CD on June 19, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 18, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
Well done all, great running, anyone not get a PB??

I didn't  :( Was 6 seconds slower than my last one. Still happy enough with 47.14 given the weather! Don't think I'm going to hit my sub 45 target this year - not too many events coming up locally that I know of - anyone recommend a couple of 10ks in July or August??
Jeez I don't think you can be too disappointed with 6 secs in that weather!  There looks to be quite a few community 10ks on the athletics NI site but don't imagine they'll be as professional as the Lisburn one...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
or as expensive...

There's a good one down in dublin next month.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 19, 2014, 02:04:48 PM
Friday 22nd August there will be an ultra organised, thoroughly professional, highly competitive, highly enjoyable 10k taking place amongst the most beautiful scenery in the world. I might not have mentioned the Strangford Festival 10k before! Great way to start the Bank Holiday Weekend! Go to niathletics.org and enter online. No more spam, I promise!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 19, 2014, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 19, 2014, 02:04:48 PM
Friday 22nd August there will be an ultra organised, thoroughly professional, highly competitive, highly enjoyable 10k taking place amongst the most beautiful scenery in the world. I might not have mentioned the Strangford Festival 10k before! Great way to start the Bank Holiday Weekend! Go to niathletics.org and enter online. No more spam, I promise!

It's hardly spam on this thread.

If I am off I will have a look at that one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 19, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 19, 2014, 02:04:48 PM
Friday 22nd August there will be an ultra organised, thoroughly professional, highly competitive, highly enjoyable 10k taking place amongst the most beautiful scenery in the world. I might not have mentioned the Strangford Festival 10k before! Great way to start the Bank Holiday Weekend! Go to niathletics.org and enter online. No more spam, I promise!

I see there is one in ballykinler next Sunday, you ever done it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 19, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
I've never done Ballykinlar but I heard there was a horrible section last year that took in Tyrella beach. Don't know about you but running through sand wouldn't be for me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 19, 2014, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: No1 on June 19, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
I've never done Ballykinlar but I heard there was a horrible section last year that took in Tyrella beach. Don't know about you but running through sand wouldn't be for me!

Hard enough on the road nevermind sand. Will give it a miss.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 20, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Sionnach relay 26/27th July - Sligo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1-JZ569zM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1-JZ569zM)

Anyone know anything about this?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 23, 2014, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 20, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Sionnach relay 26/27th July - Sligo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1-JZ569zM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1-JZ569zM)

Anyone know anything about this?

Just that it seems mental! But could be great craic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 24, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
As luck would have it I now have a football match on Friday night and I still intend to do the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday morning.

Will the game the night before have much effect on my performance/time do you think? Any advice on how to prepare?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 24, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
As luck would have it I now have a football match on Friday night and I still intend to do the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday morning.

Will the game the night before have much effect on my performance/time do you think? Any advice on how to prepare?

Shouldn't really, as you are using different muscle groups, also small sprints. You maybe should have an ice bath straight after, all depends on the intensity of the game on Friday night. At least you should get a good nights rest after the game, don't think it will take too much off your intended target time.

Good stretch before and after game and we 1km warm up before tomorrows race, with interval stretches
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on June 25, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
Went out for my first recovery run last night after boot camp on Monday night.

My numbers are Max (based on 205-half age) = 190, resting = 46
Attempted to do a run at 70% (190-46)*0.7+46 = 147... didnt make it to the end of the driveway, so I gave myself an extra 5 and kept it around 152bpm.

Went out and did a painfully slow 10.6km which tool me an hour and 24mins. Had to stop a few times, mainly at the hint of an uphill section.

Question is, do I go out tonight and do a full training session - intervals etc? The book seems to indicate a full month of recovery runs, surely this isnt right? Or is the book merely showing me the first number of recovery runs to be slotted in between my normal training days?

Also, I don't generally run every day. If I do a hard session on a Monday, and nothing on the Tuesday, should I do a normal hard session on the Wednesday, or go back to a recovery run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 09:32:10 AM
Not read the book in a long time...

Is there a program you're following or something from the book?

I'd say when you're starting training a month at 70% or below will be massively beneficial to the fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
I'm doing the Irish runners 5 mile in Phoenix Park Saturday. I'm in week 1 of training for marathon. Saturday is designated for your 'pace' run,which this Saturday is actually a 5mile as part of the training program I'm doing so it fits in nicely.
I understand for this run I should be running at the pace I hope to run in the marathon. My question is for the 5m on Saturday should I stick to the training program and do this pace for the 5miles(which would be slow enough for a short race but not for a marathon) or go out and try and set a fast time.
If I was just doing training run on my own I'd stick to the set program pace but it may be harder do this when running with others as it is easier to run faster with others I find plus I suppose a bit of competitiveness might kick in if everyone is passing me while I stick to my pace!
I also have an 8 miler as part of the training program to do Sunday so I don't want to be fecked for that.
I think I know the answer but just wondered what the more experienced runners thought!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 09:55:46 AM
LL while the head would say that you should do as per your programme the competitive head may kick in...

Define a pace run - like a tempo? You could do 3 or 4 miles at tempo pace and then the last 1 or 2 faster.

You'll find it very hard if you're a competitive sort to not push yourself hard in the race...

Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on June 25, 2014, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
I'm doing the Irish runners 5 mile in Phoenix Park Saturday. I'm in week 1 of training for marathon. Saturday is designated for your 'pace' run,which this Saturday is actually a 5mile as part of the training program I'm doing so it fits in nicely.
I understand for this run I should be running at the pace I hope to run in the marathon. My question is for the 5m on Saturday should I stick to the training program and do this pace for the 5miles(which would be slow enough for a short race but not for a marathon) or go out and try and set a fast time.
If I was just doing training run on my own I'd stick to the set program pace but it may be harder do this when running with others as it is easier to run faster with others I find plus I suppose a bit of competitiveness might kick in if everyone is passing me while I stick to my pace!
I also have an 8 miler as part of the training program to do Sunday so I don't want to be fecked for that.
I think I know the answer but just wondered what the more experienced runners thought!

GO FOR THE W LL!!! YOU CAN DO IT!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 25, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
See how you feel on the Sunday LL. Don't be a slave to the program, great to have a plan but sometimes you have to make adjustments. Sometimes the race will dictate what type of pace you run...eg slow conjested start, just not feeling great ect.

Tibial stress fracture myself! 6 weeks no running...sickner. Obviously did do a bit of damage in Boston, only started doing quick stuff last week and flared up. Cycle, rowing and weights in the gym will have to suffice till August. 12 weeks until Dublin then, be interesting to see what can be done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 11:10:50 AM
Unlucky BM. You can get good value out of the cross trainer and spin classes so if you keep yourself ticking over you be grand.

Worst part of injuries is not knowing the root of them. Running can be a tough old sport with the injuries unfortunately! Now that you know you'll be fine as you know the rehab.

Did an interval set for the first time in a long time last night - busted today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 25, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
No luck BM but at least you at the root of the problem and can work with what you know. The rower will make a man out of you!

LL - I'd enjoy the run Saturday and not worry too much about time or getting a big race under the belt. It will be a big run, so if you head out to run fast, you could end up ducking and diving through the field, which itself adds extra to the effort needed. Marathon pace would be enough and get the next days run under the belt as well. Personally I always took the LSR run on the programme as the key run of the week. If you race Saturday and feel the pace on Sunday, I'd take a day extra rest or just do a very very easy recovery run rather than stick to the programme in early part of next week. As BM says, its hard to stick to the programme rigidly at times for various reasons.

I still intend starting on a programme in august - 12 weeks. At the minute doing a lot of hills and keeping weekly long run at 10miles or just under. Done my favourite route last night which is on trails, hills, field and roads. Its a figure of 8 route that we reverse on second lap and takes the run to 10.5km. Was a glorious evening for it and you'd be on a high when finishing it, very tough but you feel super after it.  ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 25, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 25, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
Went out for my first recovery run last night after boot camp on Monday night.

My numbers are Max (based on 205-half age) = 190, resting = 46
Attempted to do a run at 70% (190-46)*0.7+46 = 147... didnt make it to the end of the driveway, so I gave myself an extra 5 and kept it around 152bpm.

Went out and did a painfully slow 10.6km which tool me an hour and 24mins. Had to stop a few times, mainly at the hint of an uphill section.

Question is, do I go out tonight and do a full training session - intervals etc? The book seems to indicate a full month of recovery runs, surely this isnt right? Or is the book merely showing me the first number of recovery runs to be slotted in between my normal training days?

Also, I don't generally run every day. If I do a hard session on a Monday, and nothing on the Tuesday, should I do a normal hard session on the Wednesday, or go back to a recovery run?

Your figures are very close to mine. As I'm sure you read in the book you probably found it very hard to stay under your recovery ceiling. I do at least one proper run a week to keep myself interested and to compare with other weeks. This can be a 5k, 5m/8k, 10k or further or whatever. Half the time I start intending to do one distance and end up doing something different because it feels right. But the times improved really quickly. The other advantage of following the methodology in the book is I can run 5/6 times a week now, the extra ones being recovery runs like you just did.

Give it a month and you will see the times improve, depending on how fit you already were. If you were as bad as I was it should be dramatic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
Thanks for the (conflicting  ;D ) advice guys..
I guess I'll just see how I am on Saturday. I suppose it won't really matter to much as it's only week 1.

Sounds like a nice run Bingo. Any time I get down home to Laois I try and do a run like that(over hills,trails, country roads) as it can get boring running around housing estates in Lucan  ::)
That's why I love going out to the Phoenix Park also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 25, 2014, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
Thanks for the (conflicting  ;D ) advice guys..
I guess I'll just see how I am on Saturday. I suppose it won't really matter to much as it's only week 1.

Sounds like a nice run Bingo. Any time I get down home to Laois I try and do a run like that(over hills,trails, country roads) as it can get boring running around housing estates in Lucan  ::)
That's why I love going out to the Phoenix Park also.

Exactly.

I actually didn't race at all last year when on my programme as regardless of my intentions I'd run it too hard and struggle for the next few weeks. But everyone does it different and I'd have a good group to run with and that will push you on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 12:09:56 PM
Perversely I find the most quiet runs you get are in the cities because they have invested in trails and paths whereas the country not so much so or else you've to pay to get into your local forst park.

LL just go for it and maybe rejig the 8 miler until monday if monday is a day off! (I vaguely remember monday was cross training??) I personally would find it very hard in a race situation where I'm not going as fast as I can. I've tried a few parkruns at a slow pace but I find the competitive head struggles with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 25, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Finally (I hope) over my nagging cold/flu symptoms so got back in the saddle last night. Ran first mile too quickly, probably not well enough hydrated and ended up hitting the wall at about the 5k mark of my 7k route. The last 2k was awful, I nearly stopped. The layoff as well as the other factors contributed but fairly depressed at how stark the regression has been. My home 10k is on Saturday and 3 weeks ago I was looking to do it in 55 with the pacer but think I'll not run it now.

Muppet - when you do your "proper run" as you call it what would your heart rate be at? I'm a bit concerned that if the monitor I'm using is accurate that I could die on the road some night!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 25, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 25, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Finally (I hope) over my nagging cold/flu symptoms so got back in the saddle last night. Ran first mile too quickly, probably not well enough hydrated and ended up hitting the wall at about the 5k mark of my 7k route. The last 2k was awful, I nearly stopped. The layoff as well as the other factors contributed but fairly depressed at how stark the regression has been. My home 10k is on Saturday and 3 weeks ago I was looking to do it in 55 with the pacer but think I'll not run it now.

Muppet - when you do your "proper run" as you call it what would your heart rate be at? I'm a bit concerned that if the monitor I'm using is accurate that I could die on the road some night!

First half (of say a 10k) usually try to keep it around 167, second half no max, just run as fast as I feel I can go ensuring I can get to the end. But that is my own plan and isn't in the book. If I was brave enough I should probably have no max earlier in the run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 25, 2014, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 25, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Finally (I hope) over my nagging cold/flu symptoms so got back in the saddle last night. Ran first mile too quickly, probably not well enough hydrated and ended up hitting the wall at about the 5k mark of my 7k route. The last 2k was awful, I nearly stopped. The layoff as well as the other factors contributed but fairly depressed at how stark the regression has been. My home 10k is on Saturday and 3 weeks ago I was looking to do it in 55 with the pacer but think I'll not run it now.

Muppet - when you do your "proper run" as you call it what would your heart rate be at? I'm a bit concerned that if the monitor I'm using is accurate that I could die on the road some night!

Seanie, its tough going in this weather if you not well prepared. You coming off back the flu, lack of running, the conditions and not hydrated will give you the experience you had.

Similar happened me on Saturday morning, only out twice during the week and knew I had little water in the system over the week. Started run fine on Saturday but after a few miles, I knew I was struggling, it was very warm. Struggled home with no energy. Went straight to a Go Games blitz for a few hours, then finished work round the house and  bbq at family house - all under the glare of the sun. All the time I took little water in. I was suffering badly and in bed by 10 that night, felt rotten. Next morning was like a thumping hangover. I made sure I drank and since then the same.

Ran last night and felt super again.

Tick the boxes and you'll be grand for your run. In the current weather, everyone is suffering and have to slow down a bit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 25, 2014, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 25, 2014, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 25, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Finally (I hope) over my nagging cold/flu symptoms so got back in the saddle last night. Ran first mile too quickly, probably not well enough hydrated and ended up hitting the wall at about the 5k mark of my 7k route. The last 2k was awful, I nearly stopped. The layoff as well as the other factors contributed but fairly depressed at how stark the regression has been. My home 10k is on Saturday and 3 weeks ago I was looking to do it in 55 with the pacer but think I'll not run it now.

Muppet - when you do your "proper run" as you call it what would your heart rate be at? I'm a bit concerned that if the monitor I'm using is accurate that I could die on the road some night!

Seanie, its tough going in this weather if you not well prepared. You coming off back the flu, lack of running, the conditions and not hydrated will give you the experience you had.

Similar happened me on Saturday morning, only out twice during the week and knew I had little water in the system over the week. Started run fine on Saturday but after a few miles, I knew I was struggling, it was very warm. Struggled home with no energy. Went straight to a Go Games blitz for a few hours, then finished work round the house and  bbq at family house - all under the glare of the sun. All the time I took little water in. I was suffering badly and in bed by 10 that night, felt rotten. Next morning was like a thumping hangover. I made sure I drank and since then the same.

Ran last night and felt super again.

Tick the boxes and you'll be grand for your run. In the current weather, everyone is suffering and have to slow down a bit.

Was hoping someone might say that. I'll do 4-5k tomorrow and see how that goes. The 10k on Sat is on a nice course around the area I'm from so I'd like to do it (provided I don't end up making a d1ck of myself).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
Interesting to read this thread!

Took a complete notion into my head a few weeks ago and decided to enter the Dublin marathon. Other than doing a leg of the Belfast marathon 5 years ago I have no experience in distance running, all prior athletic experience has been that of a junior B hurler!

So ran 9 miles for the first time in me life last week and meant to run 10 miles last night using an app on the phone called Endomondo to let me know when I'd hit the 5 mile mark on the Lagan towpath - well lesson now learned as the GPS cut in and out and after sticking in the route on google maps today I see that it had me running 12 miles! The route on the app shows me doing fictional straight lines over water etc. No wonder i'm walking like John Wayne.

Also took a bloody wrong turn on the towpath that took me up into Belvoir park forest on an unintended hill run!

So I managed my accidental 12 miles in 1hr 40mins flat and i'm wondering how does stack up as a projection for any kind of a first marathon target? Have no feel for pacing etc as this is all new. Found a Bupa plan training schedule online and wondering if theirs is any good to follow?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 25, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
Interesting to read this thread!

Took a complete notion into my head a few weeks ago and decided to enter the Dublin marathon. Other than doing a leg of the Belfast marathon 5 years ago I have no experience in distance running, all prior athletic experience has been that of a junior B hurler!

So ran 9 miles for the first time in me life last week and meant to run 10 miles last night using an app on the phone called Endomondo to let me know when I'd hit the 5 mile mark on the Lagan towpath - well lesson now learned as the GPS cut in and out and after sticking in the route on google maps today I see that it had me running 12 miles! The route on the app shows me doing fictional straight lines over water etc. No wonder i'm walking like John Wayne.

Also took a bloody wrong turn on the towpath that took me up into Belvoir park forest on an unintended hill run!

So I managed my accidental 12 miles in 1hr 40mins flat and i'm wondering how does stack up as a projection for any kind of a first marathon target? Have no feel for pacing etc as this is all new. Found a Bupa plan training schedule online and wondering if theirs is any good to follow?

If you read the thread you will know I am a novice, but I would think if you did 12 miles in 1hr 40mins you should be well able for a sub 4 hr marathon by October, if not quite a bit quicker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
Interesting to read this thread!

Took a complete notion into my head a few weeks ago and decided to enter the Dublin marathon. Other than doing a leg of the Belfast marathon 5 years ago I have no experience in distance running, all prior athletic experience has been that of a junior B hurler!

So ran 9 miles for the first time in me life last week and meant to run 10 miles last night using an app on the phone called Endomondo to let me know when I'd hit the 5 mile mark on the Lagan towpath - well lesson now learned as the GPS cut in and out and after sticking in the route on google maps today I see that it had me running 12 miles! The route on the app shows me doing fictional straight lines over water etc. No wonder i'm walking like John Wayne.

Also took a bloody wrong turn on the towpath that took me up into Belvoir park forest on an unintended hill run!

So I managed my accidental 12 miles in 1hr 40mins flat and i'm wondering how does stack up as a projection for any kind of a first marathon target? Have no feel for pacing etc as this is all new. Found a Bupa plan training schedule online and wondering if theirs is any good to follow?

That's some standard of Junior B hurling you play in lol!! 1.40 and no ill effects? It's the next 6 miles I'm worried about(for me). But your grand and well on target to do a marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on June 25, 2014, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 03:24:02 PM
1hr 40mins for 12 miles and you've never run before!
I had b**tards like you...and I'm not even joking.

Well maybe just a little bit... ;)
Welcome to the running forum!

Fecking Coleraine men... likely did it in the surfing shorts and sandals as well!!

Gonna get back to it from next week. Target is sub 20 for the park run (22.05pb) and sub 45min for a 10k (49.47pb) I have in September. Was really looking forward to getting stuck into some base work with the heart rate monitor but for some reason I've lost the strap that came with my Garmin 405 and anywhere I look it's charging me £35-40 to get a new one.

Anyone any idea where I can get another one from?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
The strap or the whole HRM??

http://www.globalgps.co.uk/item-16105-garmin-replacement-strap-hr?source=googleps&gclid=CI_H5dislb8CFULJtAodEzQApQ (http://www.globalgps.co.uk/item-16105-garmin-replacement-strap-hr?source=googleps&gclid=CI_H5dislb8CFULJtAodEzQApQ)

It's about 30 odd quid for the heart rate monitor itself and no other HRM works with garmin...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on June 25, 2014, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
The strap or the whole HRM??

http://www.globalgps.co.uk/item-16105-garmin-replacement-strap-hr?source=googleps&gclid=CI_H5dislb8CFULJtAodEzQApQ (http://www.globalgps.co.uk/item-16105-garmin-replacement-strap-hr?source=googleps&gclid=CI_H5dislb8CFULJtAodEzQApQ)

It's about 30 odd quid for the heart rate monitor itself and no other HRM works with garmin...

It's the strap just I have the wee plastic dooda for the middle of it but the strap you've linked above I don't think looks like it would work with it.

Here's the one I need:

http://www.handtec.co.uk/garmin-premium-heart-rate-monitor-soft-strap-010-10997-02.html?gclid=CIqS0s6vlb8CFSvjwgodO1cA4Q

I'll try and tear the house down this weekend and see if I can find it. I'm going to start this programme on Monday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
plenty of ill effects milltown! hobbling around like Long John Silver today! Plan on doing nothing for a few days and starting back with a 3/4 miler (twice round Ormeau park) but really need to look into a proper training plan.

was happy enough to stick the mobile in an armband and use an app to track distance but with GPS unreliable + ear phones falling out repeatedly I'm wondering if I'd be better off getting a proper watch to monitor progress?

Any recommendations on a watch or other cheap device to track distance?

On a sidenote, really enjoyed running along the Lagan towpath, never been down it before, scenic run!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 25, 2014, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 03:24:02 PM
1hr 40mins for 12 miles and you've never run before!
I had b**tards like you...and I'm not even joking.

Well maybe just a little bit... ;)
Welcome to the running forum!

Fecking Coleraine men... likely did it in the surfing shorts and sandals as well!!


lol running up sand dunes is tough prep!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 25, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
Any recommendations on a watch or other cheap device to track distance?

On a sidenote, really enjoyed running along the Lagan towpath, never been down it before, scenic run!
That's mainly where Mr Rois did his Belfast marathon training, and I run on it regularly, though really only on the stretch between Lisburn and Lambeg, although I ran from Lambeg to Lady Dixon Park the other day on part of a run I was doing.  It's nice and quiet as well (apart from the roar of the M1 when you get near it). 
Himself has a basic Garmin watch that gives him pace for each mile.  Does the job without being overly fussy but the rechargeable battery is a bit crap.  Cost about £90 this time last year as far as I remember.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 07:23:36 PM
Quote from: Rois on June 25, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 25, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
Any recommendations on a watch or other cheap device to track distance?

On a sidenote, really enjoyed running along the Lagan towpath, never been down it before, scenic run!
That's mainly where Mr Rois did his Belfast marathon training, and I run on it regularly, though really only on the stretch between Lisburn and Lambeg, although I ran from Lambeg to Lady Dixon Park the other day on part of a run I was doing.  It's nice and quiet as well (apart from the roar of the M1 when you get near it). 
Himself has a basic Garmin watch that gives him pace for each mile.  Does the job without being overly fussy but the rechargeable battery is a bit crap.  Cost about £90 this time last year as far as I remember.

What time at? lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on June 26, 2014, 01:13:44 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 25, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 25, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
Went out for my first recovery run last night after boot camp on Monday night.

My numbers are Max (based on 205-half age) = 190, resting = 46
Attempted to do a run at 70% (190-46)*0.7+46 = 147... didnt make it to the end of the driveway, so I gave myself an extra 5 and kept it around 152bpm.

Went out and did a painfully slow 10.6km which tool me an hour and 24mins. Had to stop a few times, mainly at the hint of an uphill section.

Question is, do I go out tonight and do a full training session - intervals etc? The book seems to indicate a full month of recovery runs, surely this isnt right? Or is the book merely showing me the first number of recovery runs to be slotted in between my normal training days?

Also, I don't generally run every day. If I do a hard session on a Monday, and nothing on the Tuesday, should I do a normal hard session on the Wednesday, or go back to a recovery run?

Your figures are very close to mine. As I'm sure you read in the book you probably found it very hard to stay under your recovery ceiling. I do at least one proper run a week to keep myself interested and to compare with other weeks. This can be a 5k, 5m/8k, 10k or further or whatever. Half the time I start intending to do one distance and end up doing something different because it feels right. But the times improved really quickly. The other advantage of following the methodology in the book is I can run 5/6 times a week now, the extra ones being recovery runs like you just did.

Give it a month and you will see the times improve, depending on how fit you already were. If you were as bad as I was it should be dramatic.

Cool, thought that was the case, but as you say it is hard to keep an interest if you are plodding around at that pace all the time. Will persist!

Plan on doing boot camp once a week, or one run at about 85% along with the recovery runs and will give it a month or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 26, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.

Fair play. You very high profile now  ;D let us know if it in paper.

And don't give away any board secrets on the radio!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 26, 2014, 10:34:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.

Good man. Stardom beckons.

Do you have a fundraising page or site?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2014, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.

I heard you have a face for radio, so you'll be grand lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2014, 11:04:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.
Did you put any makeup on your head to prevent reflection from the flash?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 26, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.

Fair play. You very high profile now  ;D let us know if it in paper.

And don't give away any board secrets on the radio!
Nearly hope it doesn't make the paper,one set of photos involves a massage table  :-[
It will be on facebook for sure though.

muppet - nothing set up yet but i will have to look into getting something like that.

Tony - STFU
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 27, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 26, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 26, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Lovely evening for a run..... :-\ Got the 3 required miles done but I got soaked to the bone.

Busy day today!

Myself and laoislad jnr had to do a photo shoot with Sean Hehir last year's marathon winner(very nice fella) and comedian Alan Shortt.
Keep an eye on next weeks newspapers!
Have been asked to do a radio interview in the coming weeks as well on why I'm doing the marathon.

Fair play. You very high profile now  ;D let us know if it in paper.

And don't give away any board secrets on the radio!
Nearly hope it doesn't make the paper,one set of photos involves a massage table  :-[
It will be on facebook for sure though.

muppet - nothing set up yet but i will have to look into getting something like that.


Tony - STFU

I used this lot in the past, its very easy, the shave or Dye people use it.

https://www.mycharity.ie/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 28, 2014, 01:23:12 PM
Some lads on here might be interested in these watches.

https://www.aldi.ie/en/specialbuys/sunday-29th-june/products-detail-page/ps/p/gps-unisex-watch/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on June 30, 2014, 03:52:26 PM
Time to rejoin this thread.

I ran a half marathon at 1.41.15 in  May 2013, and a 10km in 45.30 a month later. Gently eased off last autumn, then stopped completely. Some 15kg later, I'm starting again.

I've done 50km since I started back 3 weeks ago.  While was never quick, it really doesn't take long losing pace. 7.5km in 40 mins at the weekend, nearly killed me.

New targets are a sub 50min 10k this summer, and a sub 44min 10k by Christmas.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 30, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
They could've been wasps I dunno. They all got a 9 iron to their skulls whatever they were.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 30, 2014, 11:06:25 PM
Signed up for the marathon and half marathon. Second attempt at both
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2014, 08:46:01 AM
You really shouldn't have any bother hitting 70% ml...

I assume this is in easy runs only? I find when i'm tired i can only get my legs to a pace that gets me 130s. On fresher days i can get my 70% no bother as my legs will push me there.

Unless it's tiredness in legs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What's the story with your body telling you not to run today?

Out this morning as normal and after a mile the carcass was shouting at me that it didn't fancy it. What is that - Food the night before? Sleep? The mind? Makes for an unpleasant half hour.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 01, 2014, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What's the story with your body telling you not to run today?

Out this morning as normal and after a mile the carcass was shouting at me that it didn't fancy it. What is that - Food the night before? Sleep? The mind? Makes for an unpleasant half hour.

Hopefully it is something more sinister, like Shingles. Check for a rash on your side, lol.

I went for a run on Sunday - first in about two months. My time was embarrassingly slow for 3 mile - but hey, who cares. By ditching my running and concentrating on golf I have reduced my handicap by six shots since January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2014, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What's the story with your body telling you not to run today?

Out this morning as normal and after a mile the carcass was shouting at me that it didn't fancy it. What is that - Food the night before? Sleep? The mind? Makes for an unpleasant half hour.

First 'real' day off and you go for a run? You are missing the jammy dodgers, you body normally has had about half a packet by this time. Take the kids to the beach and go along the sand, plenty of sunscreen and a wee dip in the water, be like an ice bath which helps
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2014, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What's the story with your body telling you not to run today?

Out this morning as normal and after a mile the carcass was shouting at me that it didn't fancy it. What is that - Food the night before? Sleep? The mind? Makes for an unpleasant half hour.

First 'real' day off and you go for a run? You are missing the jammy dodgers, you body normally has had about half a packet by this time. Take the kids to the beach and go along the sand, plenty of sunscreen and a wee dip in the water, be like an ice bath which helps

Who ye kidding? Been switched off since Easter.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 02, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?
16.30 - 16.45 would be my guess.

Class pics LL with Hehir.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on July 03, 2014, 12:28:50 AM
Are those the pics on Dublin Marathon FB page??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 08:55:11 AM
Your max heart rate based on your age is only really a ballpark figure and a good guideline...

If you really want to stick rigidly to heart rate training you could do a max test...

When you're at 80% and you try to go faster what happens?? You should generally do those runs at 80 anyway as you'll get cardiac drift so getting to 80 will eventually push itself up to 85...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2014, 09:49:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 08:55:11 AM
Your max heart rate based on your age is only really a ballpark figure and a good guideline...

If you really want to stick rigidly to heart rate training you could do a max test...

When you're at 80% and you try to go faster what happens?? You should generally do those runs at 80 anyway as you'll get cardiac drift so getting to 80 will eventually push itself up to 85...

Just fecking run Forrest!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 09:52:10 AM
Lol. It's useful to begin with and when you run tempos MR. It's a very tried and trusted method...

I only use it twice a week and the rest are run to feel. There is no point being a slave to it but it is interesting to look at sometimes!! (if you're a stat geek...)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2014, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 09:52:10 AM
Lol. It's useful to begin with and when you run tempos MR. It's a very tried and trusted method...

I only use it twice a week and the rest are run to feel. There is no point being a slave to it but it is interesting to look at sometimes!! (if you're a stat geek...)

During the half marathon I did run to a pace I'd set in my head that would get me 1.45, but found it too slow, felt strange to hold back, I'm glad I did though as it left me a lot in the tank for the last 3 or 4 miles which then give me the incentive to push on, eventually finishing on 1.39 chip time 1.38 Garmin time. My heart rate was 144 average over that disatnce
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on July 03, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What's the story with your body telling you not to run today?

Out this morning as normal and after a mile the carcass was shouting at me that it didn't fancy it. What is that - Food the night before? Sleep? The mind? Makes for an unpleasant half hour.
This.

Was cruising last night until 2km mark, then everything started shutting down. Struggled badly home. Would love to know why this happens.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?
16.30 - 16.45 would be my guess.

Class pics LL with Hehir.

And he never mentioned that he'll be having monthly sessions with Hehir. You may keep an eye on LL, he'll be on your tail at this rate.

Quote from: Rois on July 03, 2014, 12:28:50 AM
Are those the pics on Dublin Marathon FB page??

Yes Rois that's them.

Great snaps in fairness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?

I've ran 16:45 though it was last year. Training hasn't been going so well for me yet this year to be honest so sub 35 may be a wee bit optimistic. Need a few good months behind me but struggling a wee bit. WIll get there hopefully.

LL is famous now? Must have a look.

Wobbler / ONeill you'll get there. Sometimes running can take a bit of perserverance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?
16.30 - 16.45 would be my guess.

Class pics LL with Hehir.

And he never mentioned that he'll be having monthly sessions with Hehir. You may keep an eye on LL, he'll be on your tail at this rate.

Quote from: Rois on July 03, 2014, 12:28:50 AM
Are those the pics on Dublin Marathon FB page??

Yes Rois that's them.

Great snaps in fairness.

Link  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 03, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
imtommygunn what do you do the 5k in if you are targeting 35 mins for 10k?
16.30 - 16.45 would be my guess.

Class pics LL with Hehir.

And he never mentioned that he'll be having monthly sessions with Hehir. You may keep an eye on LL, he'll be on your tail at this rate.

Quote from: Rois on July 03, 2014, 12:28:50 AM
Are those the pics on Dublin Marathon FB page??

Yes Rois that's them.

Great snaps in fairness.
I won't be happy just finishing anymore...I want to win it now  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2014, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:20:30 AM


Wobbler / ONeill you'll get there. Sometimes running can take a bit of perserverance.

I've been there, done it and returned a few times over the years. Was wondering why it happens though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 04, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2014, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:20:30 AM


Wobbler / ONeill you'll get there. Sometimes running can take a bit of perserverance.

I've been there, done it and returned a few times over the years. Was wondering why it happens though.

It's because we're not machines. Annoying when it happens but there is usually a reason. finding the reason can be impossible at times so just accept it and move on (do as I say, not as I do!!!).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2014, 01:12:35 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 04, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2014, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:20:30 AM


Wobbler / ONeill you'll get there. Sometimes running can take a bit of perserverance.

I've been there, done it and returned a few times over the years. Was wondering why it happens though.

It's because we're not machines. Annoying when it happens but there is usually a reason. finding the reason can be impossible at times so just accept it and move on (do as I say, not as I do!!!).

I haven't run since Sunday, and won't be till Sunday morning and I'll be refereeing in afternoon, but have been very active on other fronts, I think you need variety in you training/exercise. Got up to go to gym this morning 6.30 planned to do run but ended up playing unihockey (mystery Friday session) had had a blast, great work out in fairness and enjoyable with a lot of laughs. They played hockey I hurled lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
humans are really designed physiologically to run a lot.

we are designed for walking.

you really need to work at your technique to prevent injuries and soreness
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Clontarf 5 mile on this morning. Have had a great few months until the last week which hasn't been good for some reason.

I did 44:39 in Terenure in May and hoping to beat that by quite a bit.

Good luck to the lads doing the half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: majestic on July 05, 2014, 09:25:48 AM
Hi
I was on the board a couple of weeks ago looking to know if anyone had any experience of compartment syndrome. I went ahead with the surgery 11 days ago (bilateral fasciotomy) and I just thought I would share that the early results have seem to be positive. Before the surgery I was unable to jog/run/brisk walk for anything more than 6/7 mins without extreme pain leaving me having to rest until the pain subsided to continue. I have now been able to do 15/20 mins brisk walk with no pain and feeling like I could go further (not wanting to do too much too soon). Anyway I just thought I would share the results incase anyone was interested/suffering from the same thing and unsure about taking the leap for surgery. I'm looking forward to getting back running and playing football.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 05, 2014, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
That would be a kick in the nads alright, amazing the difference 4 seconds can make!

Did it start on the promenade ? Must have been fairly tight, were people up on the grass?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.

Well done muppet. Sure you will get it next time if you missed the 40. Coming along well.

Majestic best of luck with your recovery.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: majestic on July 05, 2014, 09:25:48 AM
Hi
I was on the board a couple of weeks ago looking to know if anyone had any experience of compartment syndrome. I went ahead with the surgery 11 days ago (bilateral fasciotomy) and I just thought I would share that the early results have seem to be positive. Before the surgery I was unable to jog/run/brisk walk for anything more than 6/7 mins without extreme pain leaving me having to rest until the pain subsided to continue. I have now been able to do 15/20 mins brisk walk with no pain and feeling like I could go further (not wanting to do too much too soon). Anyway I just thought I would share the results incase anyone was interested/suffering from the same thing and unsure about taking the leap for surgery. I'm looking forward to getting back running and playing football.

I never heard of those complaints but it sounds positive, best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 05, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Well done Muppet - tried to register Thursday for that but it was closed.

Did my first organised 5k this morning - the Parkrun in Marlay - thought it was great and finished it fairly comfortably - any training suggestions to get up to a 10k in two weeks for the Fingal 10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Well done Muppet - tried to register Thursday for that but it was closed.

Did my first organised 5k this morning - the Parkrun in Marlay - thought it was great and finished it fairly comfortably - any training suggestions to get up to a 10k in two weeks for the Fingal 10k

I'll leave the training suggestions to the experts. I'd fancy that Fingal 10k but the date doesn't suit work/family unfortunately. Best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.
What time was that? I was in the park this morning just made it back to the car before it lashed. There was a baldy lad who looked a bit like you running laps where I was walking with the kids.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.
What time was that? I was in the park this morning just made it back to the car before it lashed. There was a baldy lad who looked a bit like you running laps where I was walking with the kids.
That's not very nice....
It was around 11 o'clock when I got back to the car. I was running around the pitches across the road from the Papal cross.
Some fine women in tight lycra out this morning also
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
I love being bald, less drag when running, better times and that's fact
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.
What time was that? I was in the park this morning just made it back to the car before it lashed. There was a baldy lad who looked a bit like you running laps where I was walking with the kids.
That's not very nice....
It was around 11 o'clock when I got back to the car. I was running around the pitches across the road from the Papal cross.
Some fine women in tight lycra out this morning also

Small world. It was you so. You had a blue top on. There was indeed a lot of lycra around.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.
What time was that? I was in the park this morning just made it back to the car before it lashed. There was a baldy lad who looked a bit like you running laps where I was walking with the kids.
That's not very nice....
It was around 11 o'clock when I got back to the car. I was running around the pitches across the road from the Papal cross.
Some fine women in tight lycra out this morning also

Small world. It was you so. You had a blue top on. There was indeed a lot of lycra around.
Yeah I did indeed. How unfit did I look?
Were you kicking a football with kids on one of the pitches?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 05, 2014, 05:39:45 PM
No my two were going around  the cycle track one on a bike one on a scooter.  You were flying tbh. There was a young one in front that you seemed to be using as a pacer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Best of luck Muppet. Lovely day for it.

Cheers.

I am still waiting for the chip times to be put up!

Not as well organised as the last one I ran, for example the start was chaotic, and they forgot to to turn the juniors around at their half-way point, but overall it was fun and there was a great atmosphere.

I timed myself roughly at around 40:03, so I am happy I ran well (for me), but if that time is accurate I will be mega-pissed off I missed breaking 40 mins.
Would still be a fantastic time though.
Did the rain hold off for you? I did 5 miles in the Phoenix Park this morning and the heavens opened just as I got back to the car.

Rain held off for me but my cousin and the others got a soaking a bit later on.

Chip time was under 40 mins. ;D

Vino time now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 06:30:10 PM
Great running Muppet fair play!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on July 05, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 06:01:14 PM

Chip time was under 40 mins. ;D

Vino time now.
Brilliant, enjoy the vino, hope it's something nice!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
Quote from: Rois on July 05, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 06:01:14 PM

Chip time was under 40 mins. ;D

Vino time now.
Brilliant, enjoy the vino, hope it's something nice!

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
Had you much left in the tank at the end Muppet?
You'd have been under 50min for 10k if you kept going at that pace.
Had you any hills on the route?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
Had you much left in the tank at the end Muppet?
You'd have been under 50min for 10k if you kept going at that pace.
Had you any hills on the route?

It calls itself 'Ireland's flattest race' and it probably is. Zero hills. Nice run along the coast from Clontarf/East Point out to Bull Island and back.

As for the tank, last time I finished fast passing lots of people, this time a few lads passed me right at the end and I was passing no one. I got it much better this time and there was very little left. Therefore to do two more 5 min kilometres, to get to a 50 min 10k, is probably a bit off.

But today was 2 mins better than my best in training, there is nothing like an organised run to push you on. I will have to look for a 10k somewhere, pity I can't do the one Heffo mentioned above, as it is very close to me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
Had you much left in the tank at the end Muppet?
You'd have been under 50min for 10k if you kept going at that pace.
Had you any hills on the route?

It calls itself 'Ireland's flattest race' and it probably is. Zero hills. Nice run along the coast from Clontarf/East Point out to Bull Island and back.

As for the tank, last time I finished fast passing lots of people, this time a few lads passed me right at the end and I was passing no one. I got it much better this time and there was very little left. Therefore to do two more 5 min kilometres, to get to a 50 min 10k, is probably a bit off.

But today was 2 mins better than my best in training, there is nothing like an organised run to push you on. I will have to look for a 10k somewhere, pity I can't do the one Heffo mentioned above, as it is very close to me.
Its part of the Dublin race series,I'm doing it myself. There will be a 10 mile next month then half marathon in September.
I'm sticking to the paces set out for me in my marathon training plan so I'm not going all out for PB's in training or any races.
I can feel myself getting stronger with all these long runs I'm doing (9 miles tomorrow) so I feel it will benefit me when I do go back to trying to best personal bests in the shorter races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
Its part of the Dublin race series,I'm doing it myself. There will be a 10 mile next month then half marathon in September.
I'm sticking to the paces set out for me in my marathon training plan so I'm not going all out for PB's in training or any races.
I can feel myself getting stronger with all these long runs I'm doing (9 miles tomorrow) so I feel it will benefit me when I do go back to trying to best personal bests in the shorter races.

I am seriously thinking of the half marathon you mentioned. I have all but decided against going for the marathon this year. I will need to get some advice on my achilles. It is sore for the first km or so, then fine until about an hours running. Then it gets sore again with the pain spreading up the calf after, say, 90mins. I reckon I need to sort it before looking at a long run.

In the meantime the book Imtommygunn recommended has a mantra in it, train easy - race hard, and I am converted. I had given up all thoughts of a marathon (it was a goal when I was a teenager) but I could see a serious attempt at Dublin next year, or maybe somewhere else. But I need someone to tell me the achilles will stand up to it.

How is your training going? Obviously you will be training at marathon pace a lot of the time. Do you decide now what time to go for or later?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
Its part of the Dublin race series,I'm doing it myself. There will be a 10 mile next month then half marathon in September.
I'm sticking to the paces set out for me in my marathon training plan so I'm not going all out for PB's in training or any races.
I can feel myself getting stronger with all these long runs I'm doing (9 miles tomorrow) so I feel it will benefit me when I do go back to trying to best personal bests in the shorter races.

I am seriously thinking of the half marathon you mentioned. I have all but decided against going for the marathon this year. I will need to get some advice on my achilles. It is sore for the first km or so, then fine until about an hours running. Then it gets sore again with the pain spreading up the calf after, say, 90mins. I reckon I need to sort it before looking at a long run.

In the meantime the book Imtommygunn recommended has a mantra in it, train easy - race hard, and I am converted. I had given up all thoughts of a marathon (it was a goal when I was a teenager) but I could see a serious attempt at Dublin next year, or maybe somewhere else. But I need someone to tell me the achilles will stand up to it.

How is your training going? Obviously you will be training at marathon pace a lot of the time. Do you decide now what time to go for or later?
Training is going grand so far,just finishing week 2 tomorrow.
Believe it or not most of the training is far slower than marathon pace. At least 30-90secs per mile slower.
You only do one "pace" run a week. These pace runs do get gradually longer obviously as the weeks go on though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 06, 2014, 08:13:12 AM
Great stuff Muppet. Under 40 for 8k is really good going. Your progress is simply amazing. Well done and keep it up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 06, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
I'm finishing week 2 today. When did you start?
It's an 18 week program and I started on June 23rd.
One of us has our maths wrong... :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 06, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
Going to do Belleek 10k on Sunday in lovely Fermanagh. Anyone else up for that one?. Heard it's a tad hilly. Hoping for 45ish. Running well this week - enjoying a relaxing fortnight in Donegal with the family and actually getting to run regularly. Feels good!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2014, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: CD on July 06, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
Going to do Belleek 10k on Sunday in lovely Fermanagh. Anyone else up for that one?. Heard it's a tad hilly. Hoping for 45ish. Running well this week - enjoying a relaxing fortnight in Donegal with the family and actually getting to run regularly. Feels good!!!

Nice beach run in the morning in Donegal are nice, was away last year in Donegal had great runs every morning
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 06, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Good for the soul as well as everything else MR. Getting out every day for 5-12k which is unheard of for me. Might do cookstown half if i continue to feel this good
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on July 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Clontarf 5 mile on this morning. Have had a great few months until the last week which hasn't been good for some reason.

I did 44:39 in Terenure in May and hoping to beat that by quite a bit.

Good luck to the lads doing the half.

I was one of those doing the half.

When I entered 5 weeks ago it seemed like a good idea at the time but it didn t work out well. Training was poor in June and in last 2 weeks I did a couple of 5ks and a hilly 10k. I ran them tired and thought an easy week would bring me to a peak for Clontarf. Wrong. I felt good before the off though. I set off with the 1:40 pacers but I soon realised I had weak legs from the off and couldn t keep up. I finished a full six minutes slower than the half I did on May 17th. Nearly 30 seconds a mile slower is hard to take.

Still things could have been worse. I drove home straight after the run. Not having slept the night before ( I never do in hotel rooms) and the blast of sun in Clontarf, I was pretty wrecked. To make matters worse air conditioning in the jeep had packed in last Thursday and hadn t time to fix it. I was just coming off the dual-carraigeway when I heard a car horn. It woke me up just as I was crossing over into oncoming traffic. Luckily there is a wide space there in the middle of the road with white markings and I was able to sort things out. Phew!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: moysider on July 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Clontarf 5 mile on this morning. Have had a great few months until the last week which hasn't been good for some reason.

I did 44:39 in Terenure in May and hoping to beat that by quite a bit.

Good luck to the lads doing the half.

I was one of those doing the half.

When I entered 5 weeks ago it seemed like a good idea at the time but it didn t work out well. Training was poor in June and in last 2 weeks I did a couple of 5ks and a hilly 10k. I ran them tired and thought an easy week would bring me to a peak for Clontarf. Wrong. I felt good before the off though. I set off with the 1:40 pacers but I soon realised I had weak legs from the off and couldn t keep up. I finished a full six minutes slower than the half I did on May 17th. Nearly 30 seconds a mile slower is hard to take.

Still things could have been worse. I drove home straight after the run. Not having slept the night before ( I never do in hotel rooms) and the blast of sun in Clontarf, I was pretty wrecked. To make matters worse air conditioning in the jeep had packed in last Thursday and hadn t time to fix it. I was just coming off the dual-carraigeway when I heard a car horn. It woke me up just as I was crossing over into oncoming traffic. Luckily there is a wide space there in the middle of the road with white markings and I was able to sort things out. Phew!

Jaysus moy that is scary reading. A lot of people never get a second chance at that....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
So for those that have never tried the heart rate training, will add my own experience so far.

Bought the book at the recommendations of a few posters on here - I already had the GPS watch so I bought the strap to go along with it.

A bit of background - I am a beginner runner, go through bursts where I will go out for a run 2-3 times a week for a few weeks. Usually start out doing 5km runs and building up to longer runs but I found that I was very one-paced. My average speed for 5kms was remarkably similar for 10kms.

After a couple of weeks messing around with the HRM - making sure I had my calcs right, finding the right type of flat course to do it on - I set out for my first 'recovery run' at 70% HR on 24th June. As it predicts in the book, I had to do a bit of a run/walk combo to stay below my threshold and ended up completing 10.6kms.
I have since completed a further 4 runs over the 2 weeks at 12.9km, 9.2km, 15.6km and 10.2km last night. Over the course of these runs, my average time per km has dropped every single run, and I have knocked 73seconds/km off my pace at 70%. (Now would be a good time to remind you that I was starting from quite a low base, albeit fit enough to run a very slow 10km at the start)

From reading the book, he repeatedly asks for patience and to stick it out for a month, so I thought any sort of results would be much longer coming, but I suppose the book is aimed both at seasoned runners and beginners alike.

A further benefit of the 70% runs, is I can now exercise multiple nights in a row without coming in knackered!
I have been mixing in a couple of boot camps a week to get the heart pumping in between.


A couple of months ago I signed up for my first half marathon, which is on 31st August. I didn't realise at the time that I will be flying home from Perth for a friend's wedding, and will only land back in on 30th! So I am going to train as if I am doing the half marathon, and just see how I feel.....
Am I crazy to be even suggesting this? It is quite a hilly course, but I am just looking to complete and I still have 5.5 weeks before I go home
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 08, 2014, 07:48:38 AM
Do you start off doing all your runs at 70% or just your long slow runs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 07:58:01 AM
Supposed to do all for the first month, although as muppet said earlier he is throwing in one harder run a week to keep himself interested.

I am doing boot camp as well, so have just been doing the 70% runs. After the month is up, then you go to the more traditional hard run / easy run
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 09:16:01 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: moysider on July 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Clontarf 5 mile on this morning. Have had a great few months until the last week which hasn't been good for some reason.

I did 44:39 in Terenure in May and hoping to beat that by quite a bit.

Good luck to the lads doing the half.

I was one of those doing the half.

When I entered 5 weeks ago it seemed like a good idea at the time but it didn t work out well. Training was poor in June and in last 2 weeks I did a couple of 5ks and a hilly 10k. I ran them tired and thought an easy week would bring me to a peak for Clontarf. Wrong. I felt good before the off though. I set off with the 1:40 pacers but I soon realised I had weak legs from the off and couldn t keep up. I finished a full six minutes slower than the half I did on May 17th. Nearly 30 seconds a mile slower is hard to take.

Still things could have been worse. I drove home straight after the run. Not having slept the night before ( I never do in hotel rooms) and the blast of sun in Clontarf, I was pretty wrecked. To make matters worse air conditioning in the jeep had packed in last Thursday and hadn t time to fix it. I was just coming off the dual-carraigeway when I heard a car horn. It woke me up just as I was crossing over into oncoming traffic. Luckily there is a wide space there in the middle of the road with white markings and I was able to sort things out. Phew!

Jaysus moy that is scary reading. A lot of people never get a second chance at that....

Happened to me one morning on the way to Dublin, driving a white van full of welding gear and metal, would have been a gonner had it not been for the passenger beside me. Scary scary stuff
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 08, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
So for those that have never tried the heart rate training, will add my own experience so far.

Bought the book at the recommendations of a few posters on here - I already had the GPS watch so I bought the strap to go along with it.

A bit of background - I am a beginner runner, go through bursts where I will go out for a run 2-3 times a week for a few weeks. Usually start out doing 5km runs and building up to longer runs but I found that I was very one-paced. My average speed for 5kms was remarkably similar for 10kms.

After a couple of weeks messing around with the HRM - making sure I had my calcs right, finding the right type of flat course to do it on - I set out for my first 'recovery run' at 70% HR on 24th June. As it predicts in the book, I had to do a bit of a run/walk combo to stay below my threshold and ended up completing 10.6kms.
I have since completed a further 4 runs over the 2 weeks at 12.9km, 9.2km, 15.6km and 10.2km last night. Over the course of these runs, my average time per km has dropped every single run, and I have knocked 73seconds/km off my pace at 70%. (Now would be a good time to remind you that I was starting from quite a low base, albeit fit enough to run a very slow 10km at the start)

From reading the book, he repeatedly asks for patience and to stick it out for a month, so I thought any sort of results would be much longer coming, but I suppose the book is aimed both at seasoned runners and beginners alike.

A further benefit of the 70% runs, is I can now exercise multiple nights in a row without coming in knackered!
I have been mixing in a couple of boot camps a week to get the heart pumping in between.


A couple of months ago I signed up for my first half marathon, which is on 31st August. I didn't realise at the time that I will be flying home from Perth for a friend's wedding, and will only land back in on 30th! So I am going to train as if I am doing the half marathon, and just see how I feel.....
Am I crazy to be even suggesting this? It is quite a hilly course, but I am just looking to complete and I still have 5.5 weeks before I go home

Thanks for posting that up. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 11:34:57 AM
Moysider - that's a close call. Type of situation you say would never happen you...until it does.

Did a local 10km race on Friday evening, done the same route 2 years ago and found it a tough 10km, plenty of ups and downs with a tough finish. Went off fast but steady, let some guys go who I'd thought started fast and was confident I'd reel in. Worked through these lads and a few put up some resistance but I kept running at my own pace and soon shook them off.

Finished in 41.02 and was happy at that. I reckon on a flatter course, I'd have been close to sub 40m as I knew I was moving well. It will come though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 08, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: moysider on July 07, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2014, 08:42:38 AM
Clontarf 5 mile on this morning. Have had a great few months until the last week which hasn't been good for some reason.

I did 44:39 in Terenure in May and hoping to beat that by quite a bit.

Good luck to the lads doing the half.


I was one of those doing the half.

When I entered 5 weeks ago it seemed like a good idea at the time but it didn t work out well. Training was poor in June and in last 2 weeks I did a couple of 5ks and a hilly 10k. I ran them tired and thought an easy week would bring me to a peak for Clontarf. Wrong. I felt good before the off though. I set off with the 1:40 pacers but I soon realised I had weak legs from the off and couldn t keep up. I finished a full six minutes slower than the half I did on May 17th. Nearly 30 seconds a mile slower is hard to take.

Still things could have been worse. I drove home straight after the run. Not having slept the night before ( I never do in hotel rooms) and the blast of sun in Clontarf, I was pretty wrecked. To make matters worse air conditioning in the jeep had packed in last Thursday and hadn t time to fix it. I was just coming off the dual-carraigeway when I heard a car horn. It woke me up just as I was crossing over into oncoming traffic. Luckily there is a wide space there in the middle of the road with white markings and I was able to sort things out. Phew!

Jaysus moy that is scary reading. A lot of people never get a second chance at that....
Scary stuff Moy. You'd be rattled after that. I was on a coach coming back from Worthington Cup final in 2000 from Wembley when Leicester beat Tranmere 2-1 ( fcuk you Matt Elliott). Bus driver fell asleep at the wheel coming up the motorway, took us onto the grass next to the hard shoulder...peoples shouts woke him up.
Great stuff everyone here, am only dying to get back, I miss the pain badly!haha
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 08, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
Went to Achill and did the Half marathon on Saturday, great weather, good course and a well run even...was too cautious for the first 9 miles...tried to get it back over the last 4, but it was no good...finished in 1 hour 56..was hoping for 1:50....had plenty left at the end, which was worse....

my local 10 k in Tourmakeady over the August BH weekend is next on the list....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
So for those that have never tried the heart rate training, will add my own experience so far.

Bought the book at the recommendations of a few posters on here - I already had the GPS watch so I bought the strap to go along with it.

A bit of background - I am a beginner runner, go through bursts where I will go out for a run 2-3 times a week for a few weeks. Usually start out doing 5km runs and building up to longer runs but I found that I was very one-paced. My average speed for 5kms was remarkably similar for 10kms.

After a couple of weeks messing around with the HRM - making sure I had my calcs right, finding the right type of flat course to do it on - I set out for my first 'recovery run' at 70% HR on 24th June. As it predicts in the book, I had to do a bit of a run/walk combo to stay below my threshold and ended up completing 10.6kms.
I have since completed a further 4 runs over the 2 weeks at 12.9km, 9.2km, 15.6km and 10.2km last night. Over the course of these runs, my average time per km has dropped every single run, and I have knocked 73seconds/km off my pace at 70%. (Now would be a good time to remind you that I was starting from quite a low base, albeit fit enough to run a very slow 10km at the start)

From reading the book, he repeatedly asks for patience and to stick it out for a month, so I thought any sort of results would be much longer coming, but I suppose the book is aimed both at seasoned runners and beginners alike.

A further benefit of the 70% runs, is I can now exercise multiple nights in a row without coming in knackered!
I have been mixing in a couple of boot camps a week to get the heart pumping in between.


A couple of months ago I signed up for my first half marathon, which is on 31st August. I didn't realise at the time that I will be flying home from Perth for a friend's wedding, and will only land back in on 30th! So I am going to train as if I am doing the half marathon, and just see how I feel.....
Am I crazy to be even suggesting this? It is quite a hilly course, but I am just looking to complete and I still have 5.5 weeks before I go home
Just back from my first proper attempt at heart rate zone training.
I had a 5 mile run to do so thought it would be a good place to start. I normally do the midweek 5 mile run at a training pace of 9'40 ish per mile,but I was determined no matter how slow I had to go I would stick to the 70% zone.
So how did it go.. Here's what I found.

I kept to the 70% as best I could,it was hovering around 71-72% which was according to my watch 131 bpm ,anytime it hit about 74% I'd slow to a walk and let it settle back down to 70%. I had to do this more times than I would have liked but you have said the book says this will happen so I didn't mind too much(I have the book on order)

Anytime I hit a hill I had to walk to keep the 70% zone,so I guess I should be finding somewhere more flat?

My pace as I say would usually be about 9'40 per mile for this training run but checking my GPS watch at the end I averaged 13'10min per mile. Fair enough that includes walking but is it to slow to be training for a Marathon?
I know over the weeks this should/will improve but do I have that sort of time with the Marathon only 15 weeks or so away?

The last half mile I did at 80% because I was getting bored and it was starting to rain! and this brought my average pace up to 11'09 min per mile which is still very slow.

Yeah at the end of it I could have done another 5 miles easily and I'm not a bit sore like I probably normally would be but I'm unsure as whether I'll stick to this or not as I'm concerned my paces at 70% are just to slow?

I'll keep at it for a week and until I get the book.
Anyone any opinions?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 10, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Jabra sports wireless+

Got them in duty free.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Ll how many easy runs a week are there in your training? I actually think it could help you rather than hinder you if you do your easier runs at that- your pace will increase in no time. The benefits you would gain in fitness would be massive. Just the easy runs at 70% though- you have the pace runs on a saturday don't you?

I have a pair of sinnheisser headphones- can't remember the model- but they're similar to the ones ml has. Them and an ipod nano.

Tempo run tonight. Found breathing tough as it's ver clammy here but pace not bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 09:09:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Ll how many easy runs a week are there in your training? I actually think it could help you rather than hinder you if you do your easier runs at that- your pace will increase in no time. The benefits you would gain in fitness would be massive. Just the easy runs at 70% though- you have the pace runs on a saturday don't you?

I have a pair of sinnheisser headphones- can't remember the model- but they're similar to the ones ml has. Them and an ipod nano.

Tempo run tonight. Found breathing tough as it's ver clammy here but pace not bad.
The 3 runs during the week and the long run on the Sunday aren't meant to be run at a fast pace but as you say there is a race pace run on a Saturday.
If I stick to heart rate training what zone should I be in for the Saturday run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 10:00:49 PM
I'd recommend 80. That's tempo pace which would be about right.

There are runs tuesday wednesday thursday aren't there? Do one or two of those at 70 and just run how you feel to the other one i'd say so you're not trying to be too disciplined and just enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 10:00:49 PM
I'd recommend 80. That's tempo pace which would be about right.

There are runs tuesday wednesday thursday aren't there? Do one or two of those at 70 and just run how you feel to the other one i'd say so you're not trying to be too disciplined and just enjoy it.
Thanks tommy. I suppose I just got a surprise how slow I was going based on my heart rate. Even 80% will be slow.
Every second Thursday I'm doing Yasso 800s just for something different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Are you not busted at the end of each run?? I would do 20-30 minutes every thursday at 80 odd and i'm wrecked - wouldn't like to be feeling like that at the end of each run!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
I was starting to feel a bit tired alright! I was wondering how I was going to cope when the training miles got longer.
As I said earlier I could have easily run another 5 miles tonight using the 70% zone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 10:23:34 PM
Lol- then i'd definitely recommend the heart rate stuff. Seems disciplined but massively beneficial.

As muppet says don't be a slave to it but definitely i would recommend using it a few times a week.

Running till you're wrecked actually doesn't improve your fitness that much. Every little helps and all but slower way better for fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Don't worry about heart rate as it's more for training zones. If you're worried about blowing up use 80 for the first few k but then push on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 11, 2014, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Don't worry about heart rate as it's more for training zones. If you're worried about blowing up use 80 for the first few k but then push on.

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 11, 2014, 03:36:29 PM
LL - I'm glad you had that experience. It mirrors what happened with me. Even though everyone says it will improve drastically and pretty immediately I'm still sceptical. I shouldn't be - this seems to be the silver bullet if you do it correctly!. Are you using the monitor you got in LIDL that time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 11, 2014, 03:44:12 PM
Yeah I was using the Lidl one. I've ordered one to suit my GPS watch though as it was annoying me wearing two watches. Saying that the Lidl one does seem accurate enough now that I've got my head around it and it will be handy as a spare.
I'm skeptical myself but I'm going to stick at it. I'll start to worry if I don't see some improvement after a few weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 12, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Maybe Seanie and LL have naturally higher max rates and the rule of thumb calculation is actually working out such that you are really running at a lower (say 60%) hr?

For example, my max should be around 175 using the rule of thumb, but I use 188 as I have seen that on a treadmill. The real max could in fact be slightly higher.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 12, 2014, 09:17:29 PM
To do the heart rate training 100% by the book you should do a max hr test as everyone differs. Age a good barometer so decent guideline bt not 100% accurate... Could be right muppet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 12, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
I used this formula 205 - (.5 x age ) found on runnersworld.com

.5 x 35 = 17.5

205 - 17.5 = 187.5

70% of that is 131 which is exactly what by bpm was at 70% according to my watch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 12, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
220-38=182 is my max HR per formula (like muppet said, I believe my actual max is higher).

HR at rest 62.

182-62=120.

120*0.7=84

62+84=146.

So off I went and tried hard to keep HR down to 146. I would say I averaged 150-152 including walking parts and my 5 miles took 65 minutes. Felt like I just had a short walk after. Would expect I could have easily done another 5 miles if not more.

I got one or two funny readings off the HRM (registered 206 at one stage, when I was walking!!!!).

I will stick with it for a couple of weeks and see. What should be my next move? Usually run every second day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 12, 2014, 10:47:50 PM
LL you need to calculate your heart range - minimum & maximum heart rates

For example Seanie's is 62 - 182.

Think of 62 as 0% and 182 as 100% for the purposes of hr training.

So to run at 70% you work out (182 - 62)*.7 and then add the result to your minimum, just as Seanie worked out.

I would say your 130 is way too low. You will probably be closer to 150.

Seanie as far as I recall your were playing football up to very recently. I'd say your resting is actually lower than 62 - measure it when you wake up, before you get out of bed - and as you say your max is probably higher.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 12, 2014, 11:22:55 PM
Ll you have your percentages wrong...

Take your resting and work it out as per muppet says. I'd be surprised if 70% is less than about 145 or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 13, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Just managed my fastest official 10k of 43.55 in Belleek. My target for the year was under 45mins so beat that  at my 5th attempt. Absolutely delighted with myself - been on holidays and able to run regularly and felt (as usual) that there was more in the legs! Tonight will involve a chinese and a couple of bottles of coors light! Next step is a half marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 13, 2014, 01:56:54 PM
Fair play CD, super stuff. You'll enjoy the half now, target well beat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2014, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: CD on July 13, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Just managed my fastest official 10k of 43.55 in Belleek. My target for the year was under 45mins so beat that  at my 5th attempt. Absolutely delighted with myself - been on holidays and able to run regularly and felt (as usual) that there was more in the legs! Tonight will involve a chinese and a couple of bottles of coors light! Next step is a half marathon!

Great stuff CD half marathon next and on that time you should be 1.40 1.45 target. very similar to my times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 14, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
Did my first Parkrun on Saturday, which was also my first timed run since I started properly training on 24th June.

Haven't done any speed training yet, just HRM training at 70% so I didnt even know what time to aim for. Had intended to run the first few kms at 80% (~161bpm) and then kick on depending on how I felt.

We had boot camp at 7am followed by the run
As it happens, I got a bit caught up in the panic at the start and started off running faster than I intended. Ended up running the majority of the race between 168-172 which would be around 85% HR.
Was pretty wrecked at the end but managed to finish in an official time of 26:37

Absolutely delighted with that, even though my own GPS watch said 26:57, so my parkrun PB may take a while to fall.

Havent managed to upload my run on the screen where I can see if I finished faster or slower than I started - will see then if I should have taken it easier.

Will be interesting to see my HR at the end too - there is a short steep hill to the finish line
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 14, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Deeler good going, I'd ditch the HRM for the races or at least dont be looking at your watch. After the first couple of parkruns you'll have an idea of the level of effort you can hold for 5k and you'll try and push that rather than being a slave to the numbers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 14, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
Did my first Parkrun on Saturday, which was also my first timed run since I started properly training on 24th June.

Haven't done any speed training yet, just HRM training at 70% so I didnt even know what time to aim for. Had intended to run the first few kms at 80% (~161bpm) and then kick on depending on how I felt.

We had boot camp at 7am followed by the run
As it happens, I got a bit caught up in the panic at the start and started off running faster than I intended. Ended up running the majority of the race between 168-172 which would be around 85% HR.
Was pretty wrecked at the end but managed to finish in an official time of 26:37

Absolutely delighted with that, even though my own GPS watch said 26:57, so my parkrun PB may take a while to fall.

Havent managed to upload my run on the screen where I can see if I finished faster or slower than I started - will see then if I should have taken it easier.

Will be interesting to see my HR at the end too - there is a short steep hill to the finish line

Good man, well done. The GPS can be affected by powerlines, tall buildings (I presume this wasn't a problem on a park run) and trees so I would stick with the official time. Train easy, race hard seems to do the trick, although it should be train easy - often, race hard.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 14, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 14, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 14, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
Did my first Parkrun on Saturday, which was also my first timed run since I started properly training on 24th June.

Haven't done any speed training yet, just HRM training at 70% so I didnt even know what time to aim for. Had intended to run the first few kms at 80% (~161bpm) and then kick on depending on how I felt.

We had boot camp at 7am followed by the run
As it happens, I got a bit caught up in the panic at the start and started off running faster than I intended. Ended up running the majority of the race between 168-172 which would be around 85% HR.
Was pretty wrecked at the end but managed to finish in an official time of 26:37

Absolutely delighted with that, even though my own GPS watch said 26:57, so my parkrun PB may take a while to fall.

Havent managed to upload my run on the screen where I can see if I finished faster or slower than I started - will see then if I should have taken it easier.

Will be interesting to see my HR at the end too - there is a short steep hill to the finish line

Good man, well done. The GPS can be affected by powerlines, tall buildings (I presume this wasn't a problem on a park run) and trees so I would stick with the official time. Train easy, race hard seems to do the trick, although it should be train easy - often, race hard.

I dunno. When I was running, I never had nuffin. It was just flat out/steady pace/finding someone to tail, then concentrate on stride, gait, keeping the arms relaxed, and breathing. Then enjoy the scenery. Can too much information put you off?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 14, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 14, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 14, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
Did my first Parkrun on Saturday, which was also my first timed run since I started properly training on 24th June.

Haven't done any speed training yet, just HRM training at 70% so I didnt even know what time to aim for. Had intended to run the first few kms at 80% (~161bpm) and then kick on depending on how I felt.

We had boot camp at 7am followed by the run
As it happens, I got a bit caught up in the panic at the start and started off running faster than I intended. Ended up running the majority of the race between 168-172 which would be around 85% HR.
Was pretty wrecked at the end but managed to finish in an official time of 26:37

Absolutely delighted with that, even though my own GPS watch said 26:57, so my parkrun PB may take a while to fall.

Havent managed to upload my run on the screen where I can see if I finished faster or slower than I started - will see then if I should have taken it easier.

Will be interesting to see my HR at the end too - there is a short steep hill to the finish line

Good man, well done. The GPS can be affected by powerlines, tall buildings (I presume this wasn't a problem on a park run) and trees so I would stick with the official time. Train easy, race hard seems to do the trick, although it should be train easy - often, race hard.

I dunno. When I was running, I never had nuffin. It was just flat out/steady pace/finding someone to tail, then concentrate on stride, gait, keeping the arms relaxed, and breathing. Then enjoy the scenery. Can too much information put you off?

We are the couch potatoes, thoroughbreds have different requirements.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 14, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Think I had a bit of a breakthrough this evening. Started off going lovely and controlling heart rate well for first mile. Things started going apeshit then when I started getting really high reading despite actually walking quite a bit. Second mile took over 14 mins. Was raging. Adjusted the strap and things just fell into place. Was running much quicker with heart rate under control, even up a hill at the end. Think I may have cracked it. Last 2k were great, about 11 min/mile pace. Feeling stronger. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 15, 2014, 12:56:38 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 14, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Deeler good going, I'd ditch the HRM for the races or at least dont be looking at your watch. After the first couple of parkruns you'll have an idea of the level of effort you can hold for 5k and you'll try and push that rather than being a slave to the numbers.

To be honest, I only did this run as a gauge to see how far the HRM training has brought me more than anything, that's why I was using the watch. Would agree with what you say - find a comfortable pace and stay it. This was out of interest more than anything.

I thought at the time that I went out too fast, a quick look at the watch data confirms that. My second and third kms were way slower than my first, with the fourth getting back to speed and the fifth finishing strongly, quicker than the first km.

Back to the 70% tonight after work (had boot camp yesterday). Have another 9 days of purely recovery runs before I start doing tempo & speed runs.

Really enjoying it atm!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Think I had a bit of a breakthrough this evening. Started off going lovely and controlling heart rate well for first mile. Things started going apeshit then when I started getting really high reading despite actually walking quite a bit. Second mile took over 14 mins. Was raging. Adjusted the strap and things just fell into place. Was running much quicker with heart rate under control, even up a hill at the end. Think I may have cracked it. Last 2k were great, about 11 min/mile pace. Feeling stronger. Fingers crossed.
I took muppet and imtommyguns advice and did my 70% run at 150bpm rather than 130 like I calculated.
It felt so much better and I covered 9 miles on Sunday and could have done more. I averaged 11'14 min per mile and only had to walk once or twice to get heart rate down.
Going to go out tonight to get my true max heart rate by doing a few all out sprints. I reckon though the 150bpm for 70% is pretty much spot on. I measured my resting beat at 56 bpm.
I've also read if you wet the heart rate strap first it helps with a more accurate reading.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 15, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Think I had a bit of a breakthrough this evening. Started off going lovely and controlling heart rate well for first mile. Things started going apeshit then when I started getting really high reading despite actually walking quite a bit. Second mile took over 14 mins. Was raging. Adjusted the strap and things just fell into place. Was running much quicker with heart rate under control, even up a hill at the end. Think I may have cracked it. Last 2k were great, about 11 min/mile pace. Feeling stronger. Fingers crossed.
I took muppet and imtommyguns advice and did my 70% run at 150bpm rather than 130 like I calculated.
It felt so much better and I covered 9 miles on Sunday and could have done more. I averaged 11'14 min per mile and only had to walk once or twice to get heart rate down.
Going to go out tonight to get my true max heart rate by doing a few all out sprints. I reckon though the 150bpm for 70% is pretty much spot on. I measured my resting beat at 56 bpm.
I've also read if you wet the heart rate strap first it helps with a more accurate reading.
How did you get your resting HR ll? In the book it says to take it first thing in the morning, as your HR rises through the day.

Take it first thing before you get out of bed, before you even sit up in bed.

I took mine and got it to be 46bpm. Did it a few times and averaged it, and it only  changed by 1or 2 each time I measured it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 15, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 07:13:57 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Think I had a bit of a breakthrough this evening. Started off going lovely and controlling heart rate well for first mile. Things started going apeshit then when I started getting really high reading despite actually walking quite a bit. Second mile took over 14 mins. Was raging. Adjusted the strap and things just fell into place. Was running much quicker with heart rate under control, even up a hill at the end. Think I may have cracked it. Last 2k were great, about 11 min/mile pace. Feeling stronger. Fingers crossed.
I took muppet and imtommyguns advice and did my 70% run at 150bpm rather than 130 like I calculated.
It felt so much better and I covered 9 miles on Sunday and could have done more. I averaged 11'14 min per mile and only had to walk once or twice to get heart rate down.
Going to go out tonight to get my true max heart rate by doing a few all out sprints. I reckon though the 150bpm for 70% is pretty much spot on. I measured my resting beat at 56 bpm.
I've also read if you wet the heart rate strap first it helps with a more accurate reading.
How did you get your resting HR ll? In the book it says to take it first thing in the morning, as your HR rises through the day.

Take it first thing before you get out of bed, before you even sit up in bed.

I took mine and got it to be 46bpm. Did it a few times and averaged it, and it only  changed by 1or 2 each time I measured it

Just counted the pulse from my wrist for 15 seconds and multiplied by 4. Have done it a few times now and it's averaging around 56.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 15, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
I sat in the bed reading for a while last night and pulse went down to around 48. Left the strap on and I woke up after a few hours and it was at 48 so I reckon that's the resting heart rate. Takes my 70% zone down a tad but that's the story. I'll be interested in how you get your max LL and what it is. Guarantee it's higher than 220-your age.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 09:24:15 AM
Not necessarily - my 70% is 151 and 80-85 is about 170...

Best to work these things out though and then you'll have it right for yourself.

Orior if you train structured then you can do what you like in a race which is the benefit...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 10:27:40 AM
It's 196 or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 10:56:40 AM
In the 40s yeah. It was 49 last I checked.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 15, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
I sat in the bed reading for a while last night and pulse went down to around 48. Left the strap on and I woke up after a few hours and it was at 48 so I reckon that's the resting heart rate. Takes my 70% zone down a tad but that's the story. I'll be interested in how you get your max LL and what it is. Guarantee it's higher than 220-your age.

You would never believe your resting heart rate would be that low until you read it yourself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 15, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
I sat in the bed reading for a while last night and pulse went down to around 48. Left the strap on and I woke up after a few hours and it was at 48 so I reckon that's the resting heart rate. Takes my 70% zone down a tad but that's the story. I'll be interested in how you get your max LL and what it is. Guarantee it's higher than 220-your age.

You would never believe your resting heart rate would be that low until you read it yourself.
I'm just wondering what wearing a strap on in bed has got to do with heart rate training.!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 15, 2014, 01:02:41 PM
Lot of talk on the HR stuff, seems all very confusing to me! I'd say the only way to find it is getting the full test done and everything else is only a guide. I'd be happy enough where I am now that can judge me runs on pace and feel etc.

Two good run outs at the weekend. The local festival was on and they always host a triathlon as part of it. Was another good event, ran the 5km run part in a relay team and we won the relay category. Ran a good 5km in a time of 17.22 but it was short of 5KM by 300m or so. Ran it last year in 17.50, so happy with the progress.

Did the Sunday morning long run with the club and did about 11miles, was good run out.

Two weeks to the local 10miler road race, looking forward to it now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
That 10 miler is supposed to be a great event Bingo - a few in the club going to it I think.

The heart rate stuff will die down I think. Once you start it you never really think about it too much.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 15, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
I sat in the bed reading for a while last night and pulse went down to around 48. Left the strap on and I woke up after a few hours and it was at 48 so I reckon that's the resting heart rate. Takes my 70% zone down a tad but that's the story. I'll be interested in how you get your max LL and what it is. Guarantee it's higher than 220-your age.
Went out tonight to try and get my max heart rate.
Ran 3 x 100mts going faster each time. 1st 100 was 186bpm 2nd was 190 and I maxed out at 193 on the 3rd. I collapsed in a heap on the last run as I pushed myself as fast as I could go. Pretty sure that's my max heart rate as I couldn't run any faster.
Will take resting heart rate again in the morning just to be sure and I'm going to stick to those figures for the formula.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
My phone says I did 10k in 49:55 tonight.

I don't believe it though.

I need a race somewhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2014, 11:47:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
My phone says I did 10k in 49:55 tonight.

I don't believe it though.

I need a race somewhere.

Won't be too far away, flying
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 16, 2014, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
My phone says I did 10k in 49:55 tonight.

I don't believe it though.

I need a race somewhere.

Fair play, that's a great time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 09:34:12 AM
Brilliant stuff Muppet.

Had a nice 5k this morning with the heart rate well controlled. Actually had a job to get it up to the target zone at the start. It's beginning to pay dividends as I'm going quicker and keeping the HR in the zone. Looking forward to my "treat" of a full effort 10k at the weekend though.

This day last year I laced up my new Asics and went out, hoping to run for 5 minutes without stopping. My goal was to complete a 5k race. 12 months on I actually cannot believe the transformation in myself and the enjoyment I'm getting out of running. My only regret is that I didn't get into this 15 years earlier, though back then I had lots of pints to drink and bollix to act. It has been said before but this thread has been invaluable for advice and inspiration. Keep her lit all. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 09:49:01 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 09:34:12 AM
Brilliant stuff Muppet.

Had a nice 5k this morning with the heart rate well controlled. Actually had a job to get it up to the target zone at the start. It's beginning to pay dividends as I'm going quicker and keeping the HR in the zone. Looking forward to my "treat" of a full effort 10k at the weekend though.

This day last year I laced up my new Asics and went out, hoping to run for 5 minutes without stopping. My goal was to complete a 5k race. 12 months on I actually cannot believe the transformation in myself and the enjoyment I'm getting out of running. My only regret is that I didn't get into this 15 years earlier, though back then I had lots of pints to drink and bollix to act. It has been said before but this thread has been invaluable for advice and inspiration. Keep her lit all.

Great stuff, despite running more often, it leaves you wanting even more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2014, 10:51:56 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 16, 2014, 09:49:01 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 09:34:12 AM
Brilliant stuff Muppet.

Had a nice 5k this morning with the heart rate well controlled. Actually had a job to get it up to the target zone at the start. It's beginning to pay dividends as I'm going quicker and keeping the HR in the zone. Looking forward to my "treat" of a full effort 10k at the weekend though.

This day last year I laced up my new Asics and went out, hoping to run for 5 minutes without stopping. My goal was to complete a 5k race. 12 months on I actually cannot believe the transformation in myself and the enjoyment I'm getting out of running. My only regret is that I didn't get into this 15 years earlier, though back then I had lots of pints to drink and bollix to act. It has been said before but this thread has been invaluable for advice and inspiration. Keep her lit all.

Great stuff, despite running more often, it leaves you wanting even more.

It has been a great thread in fairness, to BM and Tommy who have been great with advice and Bingo Mayosam also for their exploits too. Don't know how long we'll continue to run but its been a great to ignite some interest after the playing career has gone, will never replace hurling on the field but what would??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
I can honestly say I wouldn't have kept running if I hadn't had this thread. Like magpie seanie I couldn't hardly run for 5 minutes this time last year and now I'm training for a bloody Marathon.! It's crazy when you think about it.
I also wish I started 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 16, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
I can honestly say I wouldn't have kept running if I hadn't had this thread. Like magpie seanie I couldn't hardly run for 5 minutes this time last year and now I'm training for a bloody Marathon.! It's crazy when you think about it.
I also wish I started 15 years ago.
Great stuff...mighty to see all round from everyone here. Unreal improvements by everyone...

Back on the horse myself after a 5 week lay off. Managed a 5 mile on Saturday and Sunday...blowing black smoke by the end of it  ;D...amazing how quickly you can lose fitness and how long it takes to get in shape then. Going to get a bit of a base in before start properly on August 5th. 12 weeks to DCM, foot to the floor then all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
I can honestly say I wouldn't have kept running if I hadn't had this thread. Like magpie seanie I couldn't hardly run for 5 minutes this time last year and now I'm training for a bloody Marathon.! It's crazy when you think about it.
I also wish I started 15 years ago.

There is no way I would be running if it wasn't for this thread.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
It's something I wish I'd done years ago too in fairness. It's actually remarkable how much your body can do when you put your mind to it and train it right. I started at a 41:30 odd 10k and have 6 plus minutes of that. Never thought I could achieve sub 40 when I started then eventually I got that. You think to yourself I'll beat this goal and then I'll be happy. Foruntately / unfortunately it doesn't work like that (depending how you're wired) and you just work on the next goal!

Any advice I'm passing on is anything I've got. A guy in our club is fantastic with helping people out and helped me a lot. I started with no idea how to train. I'm also a geek so the heart rate numbers feed that too...

I'm really struggling this year with a few niggles. Had a week off last month and now a week off this month. Frustrating but I'll be back soon enough. When not running I cross train. I'd done my first proper hilly run of the year too  >:( Nothing too major though so will just perservere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
sea to sky run this Friday tommy. Intersted in those types of races?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
Not this year but yeah that's meant to be a great race. I'd actually like to try a lot more trail racing than I've been doing. East antrim do a great series which is just over. Oddly despite going slower you get a sensation of going quick on the trail races.... Did one round stormont last year and really enjoyed it.

I wouldn't be expecting a PB if i were doing it...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2014, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
Not this year but yeah that's meant to be a great race. I'd actually like to try a lot more trail racing than I've been doing. East antrim do a great series which is just over. Oddly despite going slower you get a sensation of going quick on the trail races.... Did one round stormont last year and really enjoyed it.

I wouldn't be expecting a PB if i were doing it...

Yep my mate at the gym is doing it this Friday and he's a tri on Sunday!

I've friends that run with East Antrim club, they have been flat out doing it, enjoying it by the looks of their faces on photos I've seen, good to mix it up a bit, Pb's would be different for different courses I'd imagine. Great trail course on our doorstep with Cavehill. Different type of shoes too (more expense!!) Wife is going bonkers with the stuff I'm looking to get, and I need a new bike also for the Tri's. Ah well......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2014, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
Not this year but yeah that's meant to be a great race. I'd actually like to try a lot more trail racing than I've been doing. East antrim do a great series which is just over. Oddly despite going slower you get a sensation of going quick on the trail races.... Did one round stormont last year and really enjoyed it.

I wouldn't be expecting a PB if i were doing it...

Yep my mate at the gym is doing it this Friday and he's a tri on Sunday!

I've friends that run with East Antrim club, they have been flat out doing it, enjoying it by the looks of their faces on photos I've seen, good to mix it up a bit, Pb's would be different for different courses I'd imagine. Great trail course on our doorstep with Cavehill. Different type of shoes too (more expense!!) Wife is going bonkers with the stuff I'm looking to get, and I need a new bike also for the Tri's. Ah well......

Running isn't so bad but put a bike plus gear into the mix and it gets dear. I'd still be sore by about monday if i were doing that friday night never mind racing sunday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 09:18:10 PM
I'm sure a few here are doing the Fingal 10k on Sunday. I'm up about those parts myself at the weekend and would love to do it but it appears you had to enter a few weeks back. Is there any way I could get into it?

Suppose there's always the option of rocking up and just joining in!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
Some interesting runs in the next 10 days.

25th July - Coolaney, Co Sligo 8k

https://www.activeglobal.com/Events/index.cfm?AC=EventDetails_V2&E=204066&HideFrame=1 (https://www.activeglobal.com/Events/index.cfm?AC=EventDetails_V2&E=204066&HideFrame=1)

26th July - As mentioned on this thread:

http://www.active.com/co-monaghan-ulster/running/distance-running-races/blayney-rockets-ac-10-mile-road-race-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-monaghan-ulster/running/distance-running-races/blayney-rockets-ac-10-mile-road-race-2014)

26th July - Lough Arrow 8 mile

http://www.active.com/co-sligo-connacht/running/races/lough-arrow-8-mile-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-sligo-connacht/running/races/lough-arrow-8-mile-2014)

26th July - Balla, Mayo 10k

http://www.active.com/co-mayo-connaught/running/distance-running-races/balla-10km-road-race-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-mayo-connaught/running/distance-running-races/balla-10km-road-race-2014)

Loads more on here: http://www.runireland.com/active/enter-online (http://www.runireland.com/active/enter-online)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 16, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
I'm registered for the Fingal 10k Sunday but am away now so can't do it.

If it's transferable and anyone wants to take my spot you're welcome to it..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 16, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
I'm registered for the Fingal 10k Sunday but am away now so can't do it.

If it's transferable and anyone wants to take my spot you're welcome to it..

Heffo - I don't think it's transferrable but I could relieve you of your number/chip and do it. Of course if I break the world record it will go down in your name but that's a chance I'm willing to take!!!! Will get back to you when I know for sure it suits my plans for the weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 10:32:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 16, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
Some interesting runs in the next 10 days.

25th July - Coolaney, Co Sligo 8k

https://www.activeglobal.com/Events/index.cfm?AC=EventDetails_V2&E=204066&HideFrame=1 (https://www.activeglobal.com/Events/index.cfm?AC=EventDetails_V2&E=204066&HideFrame=1)

26th July - As mentioned on this thread:

http://www.active.com/co-monaghan-ulster/running/distance-running-races/blayney-rockets-ac-10-mile-road-race-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-monaghan-ulster/running/distance-running-races/blayney-rockets-ac-10-mile-road-race-2014)

26th July - Lough Arrow 8 mile

http://www.active.com/co-sligo-connacht/running/races/lough-arrow-8-mile-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-sligo-connacht/running/races/lough-arrow-8-mile-2014)

26th July - Balla, Mayo 10k

http://www.active.com/co-mayo-connaught/running/distance-running-races/balla-10km-road-race-2014 (http://www.active.com/co-mayo-connaught/running/distance-running-races/balla-10km-road-race-2014)

Loads more on here: http://www.runireland.com/active/enter-online (http://www.runireland.com/active/enter-online)

Lough Arrow should be good and I've a half notion of doing it myself. Coolaney is quite close to me but the time doesn't really suit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:16:15 PM
Had a great 6 miles tonight. My average pace per mile was 30 seconds faster than Sunday but at the same or even a little lower heart rate. So it seems likes it's working! The book came in the post today so must give it a good read over the next few days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 17, 2014, 06:21:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 16, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 16, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
I'm registered for the Fingal 10k Sunday but am away now so can't do it.

If it's transferable and anyone wants to take my spot you're welcome to it..

Heffo - I don't think it's transferrable but I could relieve you of your number/chip and do it. Of course if I break the world record it will go down in your name but that's a chance I'm willing to take!!!! Will get back to you when I know for sure it suits my plans for the weekend.

A1 Seanie - will pm you my number - not sure if you have it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 17, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:16:15 PM
Had a great 6 miles tonight. My average pace per mile was 30 seconds faster than Sunday but at the same or even a little lower heart rate. So it seems likes it's working! The book came in the post today so must give it a good read over the next few days.

Great, once you get confidence in it you can really improve. I'm not even sticking to any programme at the moment. Just lots of recovery runs and a hard one at least once a week. And I am enjoying it, last year I would have slapped myself for even thinking that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 17, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 17, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2014, 11:16:15 PM
Had a great 6 miles tonight. My average pace per mile was 30 seconds faster than Sunday but at the same or even a little lower heart rate. So it seems likes it's working! The book came in the post today so must give it a good read over the next few days.

Great, once you get confidence in it you can really improve. I'm not even sticking to any programme at the moment. Just lots of recovery runs and a hard one at least once a week. And I am enjoying it, last year I would have slapped myself for even thinking that.

Same here. Went again at lunchtime today and it was really enjoyable. Caught myself day dreaming there wondering if I could work it to go for a run tonight....then remembered I had just been for a run. This is getting addictive.

Going to go with "The Muppet Plan" of 3-4 "recovery" runs and one hard run per week and see where it takes me. Looking forward to Swords on Sunday now Heffo has sorted me out. Would imagine from the map it's a flat enough course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 17, 2014, 03:45:48 PM
I had planned on that 10k run in Swords but seen when it was fixed against the Ulster final it wasn't going to happy.

Best of luck to the lads doing it.

Plenty of happy people in here this weather, great to see  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 17, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
Heffo, if seanie cant do it, I'll take it off you.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 17, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 17, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
Heffo, if seanie cant do it, I'll take it off you.

Seanie's been in touch and he's good to go but if he drops out for any reason it's yours
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 18, 2014, 12:12:40 PM
Cheers Heffo

So I've signed up for the marathon and the half a few weeks beforehand.

Was talking to the coach yesterday, had been asking her for a plan for 3hrs and she reckons she prefers that I do a race to find out where I am, that'll determine my paces for the next five weeks and then do a retest to see how I've improved and then as I get closer, probably the half I should know what I'm going to do on the day.
She made the point that we'll say you start training for 3hrs, maybe it turns out you improve rapidly and are able for 2.50, you dont know it. Or likewise things dont go well and you're struggling to meet a programme thats too fast for you

So no goals for me yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2014, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 18, 2014, 12:12:40 PM
Cheers Heffo

So I've signed up for the marathon and the half a few weeks beforehand.

Was talking to the coach yesterday, had been asking her for a plan for 3hrs and she reckons she prefers that I do a race to find out where I am, that'll determine my paces for the next five weeks and then do a retest to see how I've improved and then as I get closer, probably the half I should know what I'm going to do on the day.
She made the point that we'll say you start training for 3hrs, maybe it turns out you improve rapidly and are able for 2.50, you dont know it. Or likewise things dont go well and you're struggling to meet a programme thats too fast for you

So no goals for me yet!

Have you broke 3h for a marathon before? It's a serious pace, I was thinking at the end of the last half marathon that doing that distance again at a decent pace would be crackers. I will train for one but would struggle to stick to a plan, love my set routine, ultimate goal would be an Ironman so would need to get a marathon of sorts done, friend heading over to Bolton to do the Ironman tomorrow!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 18, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Have I f**k, I did one two years ago in 3.52, now in fairness I didnt follow any programme and did only two runs above 15 miles, I was lucky to finish

It'll all be about discipling myself, I may have to cut the september celebrations down from four weeks to three or even two  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2014, 02:32:41 PM
For the past 3 years I've been training with marathon guys who are busting themselves to break 3 hours in Belfast. I have seen some spectacular sights I have to say in their attempts to do so. More fail than succeed - not an easy barrier to break but can be done with the right training!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 18, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
Just to clarify I think I'll go under 3.10, possibly under 3.05.

Maria reckons I can under 3, I don't believe her but by her programme I wont know until the end of September what I'll be doing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2014, 02:40:12 PM
Where a lot of people fall down is they don't train at the pace they will run a marathon at. They run 10ks, 5ks, tempos and halfs all quicker then when you run the marathon your body isn't used to the pace. Doesn't matter that it's slower.

Half is usually a good barometer a month in advance of what you'll do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2014, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 18, 2014, 02:40:12 PM
Where a lot of people fall down is they don't train at the pace they will run a marathon at. They run 10ks, 5ks, tempos and halfs all quicker then when you run the marathon your body isn't used to the pace. Doesn't matter that it's slower.

Half is usually a good barometer a month in advance of what you'll do.

The occasion can help the novice finish it and can hinder the ones looking sets times I feel, friend of mine ran London, he's done Dublin and Belfast a couple of times, was looking to get to the 3hr mark, failed miserably ended on 3.40. He's been running years but thinks the occasion and pressure of getting a decent time played its part
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 20, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just had a Forrest Gump run - went out without any real preparation intending to run 8 miles or so, ended up running 13 in about 1.41. Lovely morning for it - a light misty drizzle for a fair part of the way was nice as it's quite warm out. Just wish I had water or food on board as I could easily have kept going. Just proved to myself that I can run a half marathon. I need to look after myself today so that I don't suffer which will crush my confidence - any suggestions appreciated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 20, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
Great running CD. Did 13.6 miles myself this morning. Set off at 6am it was a lovely time to be out.

Tried to keep my heart rate in the 70-75% zone which I more or less achieved but i did have to walk at a few hills to keep within the target zone.Think if I keep going as I am I'll be targeting sub 2hrs in the half marathon in September.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 20, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 20, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
Great running CD. Did 13.6 miles myself this morning. Set off at 6am it was a lovely time to be out.

Tried to keep my heart rate in the 70-75% zone which I more or less achieved but i did have to walk at a few hills to keep within the target zone.Think if I keep going as I am I'll be targeting sub 2hrs in the half marathon in September.
Which 1/2 is that LaoisLad - I've just registered for the Belfast 1/2 on Sept 14th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 20, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: CD on July 20, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 20, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
Great running CD. Did 13.6 miles myself this morning. Set off at 6am it was a lovely time to be out.

Tried to keep my heart rate in the 70-75% zone which I more or less achieved but i did have to walk at a few hills to keep within the target zone.Think if I keep going as I am I'll be targeting sub 2hrs in the half marathon in September.
Which 1/2 is that LaoisLad - I've just registered for the Belfast 1/2 on Sept 14th.
Phoenix Park in Dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: CD on July 20, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just had a Forrest Gump run - went out without any real preparation intending to run 8 miles or so, ended up running 13 in about 1.41. Lovely morning for it - a light misty drizzle for a fair part of the way was nice as it's quite warm out. Just wish I had water or food on board as I could easily have kept going. Just proved to myself that I can run a half marathon. I need to look after myself today so that I don't suffer which will crush my confidence - any suggestions appreciated!

That's very similar times CD, we could be running buddies lol. You'd do well at the Belfast half, pretty flat course and 1.41 is a smashing time. I sense a little challenge ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 20, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: CD on July 20, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just had a Forrest Gump run - went out without any real preparation intending to run 8 miles or so, ended up running 13 in about 1.41. Lovely morning for it - a light misty drizzle for a fair part of the way was nice as it's quite warm out. Just wish I had water or food on board as I could easily have kept going. Just proved to myself that I can run a half marathon. I need to look after myself today so that I don't suffer which will crush my confidence - any suggestions appreciated!

That's very similar times CD, we could be running buddies lol. You'd do well at the Belfast half, pretty flat course and 1.41 is a smashing time. I sense a little challenge ;)
Don't be at it MR! You'll unearth a nasty wee competitive streak in me! Hitting 40 next year and I have a wee ambition to run 3 or 4 marathon's in the next 15 months! Didn't think I'd be fit for Dublin this year but have a notion in my head it could be done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: CD on July 20, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: CD on July 20, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Just had a Forrest Gump run - went out without any real preparation intending to run 8 miles or so, ended up running 13 in about 1.41. Lovely morning for it - a light misty drizzle for a fair part of the way was nice as it's quite warm out. Just wish I had water or food on board as I could easily have kept going. Just proved to myself that I can run a half marathon. I need to look after myself today so that I don't suffer which will crush my confidence - any suggestions appreciated!

That's very similar times CD, we could be running buddies lol. You'd do well at the Belfast half, pretty flat course and 1.41 is a smashing time. I sense a little challenge ;)
Don't be at it MR! You'll unearth a nasty wee competitive streak in me! Hitting 40 next year and I have a wee ambition to run 3 or 4 marathon's in the next 15 months! Didn't think I'd be fit for Dublin this year but have a notion in my head it could be done!


Only a pup ffs, I'm 43 next birthday ffs!! May do a marathon but it would only be prep for a bigger challenge, though I haven't decided on doing that yet, but in the pipeline
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 20, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 20, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
Great running CD. Did 13.6 miles myself this morning. Set off at 6am it was a lovely time to be out.

Tried to keep my heart rate in the 70-75% zone which I more or less achieved but i did have to walk at a few hills to keep within the target zone.Think if I keep going as I am I'll be targeting sub 2hrs in the half marathon in September.

Well done to both of you.

I won't know for a while if work clashes with that half, but if not I might go for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 06:36:12 PM
Managed to break 20mins for 5k today during triathlon but I'd be concerned about the proper distance, but I'll settle for a recorded 5k anyways.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 20, 2014, 08:13:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 06:36:12 PM
Managed to break 20mins for 5k today during triathlon but I'd be concerned about the proper distance, but I'll settle for a recorded 5k anyways.

Good man. Presumably you swam before it and cycled after? On that showing you should be able to go well below 20 mins surely?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 08:20:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 20, 2014, 08:13:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 06:36:12 PM
Managed to break 20mins for 5k today during triathlon but I'd be concerned about the proper distance, but I'll settle for a recorded 5k anyways.

Good man. Presumably you swam before it and cycled after? On that showing you should be able to go well below 20 mins surely?

30 lengths and 20k cycle before the run, checked the watch and as best as I can judge the run was 4.9k .1 short of 5 but the run was 19.10 so I'd have nailed that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 21, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
Had to do a radio interview on 4FM today with Sean Hehir.
Was shitting a brick but it went grand.
First training session with Hehir this Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 21, 2014, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 21, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
Had to do a radio interview on 4FM today with Sean Hehir.
Was shitting a brick but it went grand.
First training session with Hehir this Saturday morning.

Mixin with the celebs! Fair play - great running at the weekend - what running programme are you following?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 22, 2014, 08:13:06 AM
Didn't manage to hook up with heffo in the end so just ran 6.5 miles on my own Sunday morning. I was glad I didn't make the race after. Was so excited to get a run with the handbrake off I went out a bit too fast and suffered badly towards the end. The heat/humidity didn't help either....another lesson learned. Got through it though and had a nice 3.25 mile recovery run yesterday. I'm over in the Netherlands for work and it was pouring rain but warm and just really enjoyable. Keeping the heart rate down is easier with it being so flat here too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 22, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
BBC 4 now...David Rudisha doc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on July 22, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Another on a similar theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmXN-kQZ04M

Man on a Mission - Br O'Connell and the rise of Kenyan Athletics
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2014, 09:44:55 AM
So in the base training element of the marathon training, 16 miles this weekend.

Plan will start from the start of August, apparently "that means you'll be able to start with 18 miles"!
She has spoken about saturday sessions in the park of 22 miles but split up, at different paces.

Sounds exciting if a little daunting
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 23, 2014, 10:07:59 AM
Good luck with that! I've been given the all clear from Mrs CD to do the Dublin Marathon. Going to delay registration until I'm sure the body is up to the longer runs. Have a 13 mile under the belt last weekend and have a 12 miler this w'end. Just back from an extremely hot 6 miles there. That is some morning to be able to go for a run!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 24, 2014, 09:00:25 PM
So went for a nice 4 mile run tonight all along by the canal.Sun was shining and it was a lovely evening for a run.
In the middle of the run I passed this aul fella sitting on a bench skulling cans of cider,as I passed him he looks up and offers me one of his cans...Wouldn't have minded one to be fair but I declined.!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2014, 06:37:25 PM
Holy Jebus!

http://www.thejournal.ie/callum-jacobs-running-ireland-1590507-Jul2014/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/callum-jacobs-running-ireland-1590507-Jul2014/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 26, 2014, 10:39:48 PM
Had a good one this afternoon. Did the mountain loop which is approx 12k of the 15k Warriors Run route, all but the last mile to the top and back to the main road. Had done this in late May before the wheels came off but was a bit nervous heading into it today as last weeks long run in Dublin was not good. Took it out even slower than before (keeping heart rate in the 160's at most) and felt really strong at the end. Even the really bad hills felt not as bad and that's with me doing no specific hill training. Last couple of miles were my quickest and I took 2 minutes off the May time (and I ran my 10k pb a week after that). Massive confidence booster 4 weeks out. The Muppet plan is working it seems!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2014, 11:56:10 AM
The Blayney rockets AC had their first race yesterday which was the 10miler and have to say it was massive success. Feedback was brilliant after from all runners and all Sao that their regret was that more of their own club runners had done it!

It ticked all the boxes - great course, loads of marshalls, goodie bag, finishers medal, stadium finish, bagpipes at mile 7 etc.

Great buzz after it and a few pints as well!

Personally finished in 1.09.09, so delighted with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
CD I eat a bowl of porridge and have a pint of water before I go out. (In the previous hour). Some can't handle the food that close to before they run though but see what works for you. You shouldn't need to eat in a 12 or 13 but if energy levels struggle consider a gel.

ML itb is quite common. Check out foam rolling videos online.

If you boys are pushing the body a lot more than you used to I would recommend a sports massage every so often to loosen you up. Also look at stretching key muscle groups post runs- I.e. Calves, hamstrings, quads , glutes and maybe lower back. Even 5ish minutes would help a lot.

I have royally screwed my calf up and now will struggle with a race I've booked end of August. Coming down a hill, slow enough too, on my long run the other week and something went pop  :-\ Oh well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 27, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2014, 10:39:48 PM
Had a good one this afternoon. Did the mountain loop which is approx 12k of the 15k Warriors Run route, all but the last mile to the top and back to the main road. Had done this in late May before the wheels came off but was a bit nervous heading into it today as last weeks long run in Dublin was not good. Took it out even slower than before (keeping heart rate in the 160's at most) and felt really strong at the end. Even the really bad hills felt not as bad and that's with me doing no specific hill training. Last couple of miles were my quickest and I took 2 minutes off the May time (and I ran my 10k pb a week after that). Massive confidence booster 4 weeks out. The Muppet plan is working it seems!

That Warrior Run looks savage but great to hear you are going well. I suggest, when you finish it, you tell everyone you were on 'The Muppet Plan' and let us know what the reaction is.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 27, 2014, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 27, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2014, 10:39:48 PM
Had a good one this afternoon. Did the mountain loop which is approx 12k of the 15k Warriors Run route, all but the last mile to the top and back to the main road. Had done this in late May before the wheels came off but was a bit nervous heading into it today as last weeks long run in Dublin was not good. Took it out even slower than before (keeping heart rate in the 160's at most) and felt really strong at the end. Even the really bad hills felt not as bad and that's with me doing no specific hill training. Last couple of miles were my quickest and I took 2 minutes off the May time (and I ran my 10k pb a week after that). Massive confidence booster 4 weeks out. The Muppet plan is working it seems!

That Warrior Run looks savage but great to hear you are going well. I suggest, when you finish it, you tell everyone you were on 'The Muppet Plan' and let us know what the reaction is.

Those that know me wouldn't bat an eyelid! It would be just put down to "that's Seánie"!

Instead of "bainisteoiring" the club juniors in our first championship match and doing a nice recovery run later I played full forward for the hour. Expecting to be crippled tomorrow, especially the upper body. We've a young enough, naive bunch and someone has to do a bit of mullocking!!!! For the record didn't score but set up a few and got the better of my opponent. Playing football when relatively fit is great even though we lost 1-8 to 4-5.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 28, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Garmin Watch

Lads  - I've been thinking of buying myself a GPS watch to help with running/pacing and performance. I've been reading reviews online that are remarkable contradictory. Some say the Garmin is the bees knees but there are loads of issues regarding the time taken to find satellites, the reliability over the first couple of miles and steaming/fogging up due to poor waterproofing. Have any of you had issues? Any recommendations? At around £100+ I want to make sure I spend wisely!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on July 28, 2014, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: CD on July 28, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Garmin Watch

Lads  - I've been thinking of buying myself a GPS watch to help with running/pacing and performance. I've been reading reviews online that are remarkable contradictory. Some say the Garmin is the bees knees but there are loads of issues regarding the time taken to find satellites, the reliability over the first couple of miles and steaming/fogging up due to poor waterproofing. Have any of you had issues? Any recommendations? At around £100+ I want to make sure I spend wisely!

Each to their own, but I can't work out why anyone would pay for a watch when they can put Nike+ on their Smartphone, and listen to a music playlist while they run. Nike+ will call out your time and pace every 250m if you want it, and then bops all your stats and maps into one place once you're done. Plus, you can put your treadmill work through it too, once it works out your normal running pace.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
ive the garmin 110 and its grand. no issuses with it at all. Yes it may take five minutes to find satilliltes but that gives you five minutes to stretch. never lost coverage yet. never foggy either. you have to charge it though so do that the night before. its helped with my pace big time. Ive the heart rate monitor with it also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 28, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 28, 2014, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: CD on July 28, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Garmin Watch

Lads  - I've been thinking of buying myself a GPS watch to help with running/pacing and performance. I've been reading reviews online that are remarkable contradictory. Some say the Garmin is the bees knees but there are loads of issues regarding the time taken to find satellites, the reliability over the first couple of miles and steaming/fogging up due to poor waterproofing. Have any of you had issues? Any recommendations? At around £100+ I want to make sure I spend wisely!

Each to their own, but I can't work out why anyone would pay for a watch when they can put Nike+ on their Smartphone, and listen to a music playlist while they run. Nike+ will call out your time and pace every 250m if you want it, and then bops all your stats and maps into one place once you're done. Plus, you can put your treadmill work through it too, once it works out your normal running pace.

My iPhone 5 will barely last an hour (battery) and that is with music off and not using the wifi earphones.

I have a garmin watch that occasionally fogs a bit but not enough to block the readings. Also it seems a bit pessimistic about distance and times versus the iPhone app. The 2 official races I have done suggest the iPhone was on the money.

Had a poor month overall though. Since a race early in the month I haven't done much. I need to enter a race to motivate myself it seems.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 28, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
I took this BBC quiz on sports: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28062001 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28062001)

It seems I am most suited to Hockey, Badminton and Table Tennis.

And least suited to Athletics (Long-distance), Athletics (sprint) and Triathlon.

Great.  :-\

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 28, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
I took this BBC quiz on sports: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28062001 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28062001)

It seems I am most suited to Hockey, Badminton and Table Tennis.

And least suited to Athletics (Long-distance), Athletics (sprint) and Triathlon.

Great.  :-\

Rugby sevens lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 28, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Hah, less suited to athletics long distance, cycling long distance and triathlons
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 28, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Hah, less suited to athletics long distance, cycling long distance and triathlons

I'm wrong size totally for triathlons, I'm light on my feet so short distances are perfect!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 28, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Hockey, Rugby Sevens and Squash are my supposed matches.

"Less suited" to Shooting, Athletics (long distance), Lawn Bowls.

Gutted about the lawn bowls....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2014, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 28, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Hockey, Rugby Sevens and Squash are my supposed matches.

"Less suited" to Shooting, Athletics (long distance), Lawn Bowls.

Gutted about the lawn bowls....

That was mine Rhino :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
Shooting.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 28, 2014, 08:49:08 PM
f**king hell that foam rolling hurts!
I followed a YouTube video and had the wife make sure I looked like I was doing it right!
The calf muscles or soleus and gastrocnemius (I had to look up what the proper names were!!)hurt the most especially on the left leg.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 29, 2014, 12:35:02 AM
Folk (guys!) using the chest strap.....how shall I put this.....can hair be an issue? My readings were all screwy this evening and I'm beginning to think that the hairy chest is not helping matters. I registered 198 while crawling along at 12 minute mile pace which means something is wrong with the readings or I'm taking my life in my hands every time I get up off my arse.

That said, I ran for 1hr 18 mins on Saturday and it seemed pretty on the money. I planned to stay around 165/170 for first half and then finish strong which happened perfectly.

Only other thing is I have quite a bruise on my chest foolowing the football match on Sunday but I don't know how that could interfere with things.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 29, 2014, 07:26:06 AM
Doesn't happen with me magpie and I have a hairy chest also!
I did buy a Polar heart rate strap to suit my GPS watch so I don't use the Aldi one anymore.
On another note I recorded a max heart rate of 203 doing the park run on Saturday so its way off the formula calculations of 188.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 29, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Instead of doing Dublin this year, i am planning to give sea to summit a go in Westport in November, just wondering if anyone on here has done it or knows anything about it, Also, our local 10k is on Saturday at 12 in Tourmakeady, if anyone wants to come along, the race is chipped timed and there is a technical t-shirt too, plenty of tea and sandwiches after!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 29, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
The galway races will interfere with my training this week

Did 16 miles on saturday, really struggled for most of it.
Had done 15 the previous week at a slower pace (8.32/mile) and found it easy. Ramped up the pace to 8.00/mile and the tongue was hanging out. Everything was sore from the start
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 29, 2014, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 29, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
The galway races will interfere with my training this week

Did 16 miles on saturday, really struggled for most of it.
Had done 15 the previous week at a slower pace (8.32/mile) and found it easy. Ramped up the pace to 8.00/mile and the tongue was hanging out. Everything was sore from the start

I've been running about 7.40 min miles but am only at 13 mile mark so I know I need to take it much slower. It's amazing how some weeks you go out and everything is great and the next week you die! My hardest run last week was a 3 mile on Thursday - struggled every step. Found the 13 on Saturday comparatively easy although I did run out of energy in the last mile or so.

Had an MRI yesterday on a dodgy knee! Results will determine whether or not I do Dublin this year! Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on July 29, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Well I got back on the running horse last night after more than a month of doing nothing (I did get married so that's my excuse  8) ), and the 5k I ran was so slow and such hard work.  I am always amazed how quickly I can lose it.  I was about 3.5mins off my parkrun PB over 5k which is awful! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 29, 2014, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: Rois on July 29, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Well I got back on the running horse last night after more than a month of doing nothing (I did get married so that's my excuse  8) ), and the 5k I ran was so slow and such hard work.  I am always amazed how quickly I can lose it.  I was about 3.5mins off my parkrun PB over 5k which is awful!

I'll say it to you because it was said to me 4-5 weeks ago and it's true - you're right about how quickly you lose it but it is equally amazing how quickly it comes back if you stick with it. In a couple of weeks you'll be buzzing again.

Congrats on the wedding.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Just Puck It on July 29, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
Do any of you use insoles when running? Having to visit the physio more and more often with problems with my ankles and calves and she has said it's time to do something preventative rather than trying to fix the problems after they arise. She says I'm an over pronator (feet land on the ground outside first) and that I've really high arches so need to go for a proper gait analysis. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in this and what sort of money could I expect to spend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
I have high foot arches and use insoles.  They're dear enough - I paid over 200 sterling including appointments...

They would help me a lot to be honest. I got diagnosed with having a problem with the metatarsal joint and they've made a good difference since I got them. Basically my big toe on the left foot locks on impact so these insoles counteract this. I used to get back alignment issues non stop and rarely if ever get them any more.

That being said one key point is that core strength is key to less injuries so that is something to think about too.Muscles like glute med are key and a good tip for anyone would be to stretch the hip flexors and stretch them a load as they can be the root of a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 29, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 29, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
Do any of you use insoles when running? Having to visit the physio more and more often with problems with my ankles and calves and she has said it's time to do something preventative rather than trying to fix the problems after they arise. She says I'm an over pronator (feet land on the ground outside first) and that I've really high arches so need to go for a proper gait analysis. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in this and what sort of money could I expect to spend?

I wear a custom made pair all the time. Provided by the NHS post injury as part of rehab so I didn't have to pay for them thankfully. They're solid plaster of some kind and initially I thought I'd never be able to run in them but now I couldn't wear any footwear without them. I certainly have less knee pain as a result and the definitely helped with lower back pain. I now wear a neutral/cushioned shoe for exercise all the time.

Be careful with your regular footwear as I find it can add to problems - don't wear very flat shoes - converse or flipflops and buy good everyday shoes for work etc. I wear trainers to work as often as I can get away with it as dress shoes give me problems.

As Tommy said, I was encouraged to work on core strength to resolve knee issues and had various sessions of yoga and pilates as well .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 29, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 29, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Instead of doing Dublin this year, i am planning to give sea to summit a go in Westport in November, just wondering if anyone on here has done it or knows anything about it, Also, our local 10k is on Saturday at 12 in Tourmakeady, if anyone wants to come along, the race is chipped timed and there is a technical t-shirt too, plenty of tea and sandwiches after!!

Done it a few years ago An Gaelgoir and hope to do it again this year. There is a sprint run and the supreme . The supreme starts with a 4k run from the castlecourt hotel down to the pier , from there you cycle out to croagh Patrick about 8k I think , then its up a down Croagh Patrick (some lunatics go up and down the mountain in less than 50 minutes) after Croagh Patrick you have a 35k cycle (fairly tough I thought ) back to Westport and a 4k run to finish. Really enjoyed the event however this year im going to spend more time training on the bike than I did the previous times that I did the event.   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 31, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Whose the smart hoor that changed my goal from finishing the Marathon to winning it!!! My guess is Milltown Row.
I'm off for a run now will update table when I get back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 31, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Whose the smart hoor that changed my goal from finishing the Marathon to winning it!!! My guess is Milltown Row.
I'm off for a run now will update table when I get back.

Feck off  ;D 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2014, 09:44:02 PM
Done, you'll hammer past that target soon enough good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 31, 2014, 09:54:42 PM
Fair play to you! Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 01, 2014, 07:04:15 AM
There was a couple of times I did a mile or two extra but I'm pretty much sticking to the plan.
That's my total in Kilometers BTW..is that what you're using?
Isn't that what everyone is using?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 02, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 01, 2014, 07:04:15 AM
There was a couple of times I did a mile or two extra but I'm pretty much sticking to the plan.
That's my total in Kilometers BTW..is that what you're using?
Isn't that what everyone is using?

I thought you were  machine Laoislad! I was thinking you were doing some really serious miles :D

Just back from 11 miles with a parkrun halfway! Managed to do it in just over 22 mins in the worst conditions I think I've ever ran in. Was saturated before I got out the driveway and clobbered in mud to the knees. It has been absolutely chucking it down here since 4am!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2014, 01:45:33 PM
Quote from: CD on August 02, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 01, 2014, 07:04:15 AM
There was a couple of times I did a mile or two extra but I'm pretty much sticking to the plan.
That's my total in Kilometers BTW..is that what you're using?
Isn't that what everyone is using?

I thought you were  machine Laoislad! I was thinking you were doing some really serious miles :D

Just back from 11 miles with a parkrun halfway! Managed to do it in just over 22 mins in the worst conditions I think I've ever ran in. Was saturated before I got out the driveway and clobbered in mud to the knees. It has been absolutely chucking it down here since 4am!

Brilliant running in those conditions, friend of mine did the Waterworks and said it was the WATERWORKS!!. Fair play. Played in an over 35's hurling game up at the Bear Pit this morning, fecking chucking it down but was brilliant craic meeting up with past hurlers from the club, enjoyed it immensely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 02, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
I dunno if it's all the extra miles I'm doing or the heart rate training but I've just smashed my 10k personal best time by nearly 90 seconds,coming in just over 50mins.
50'14 to be exact.
I wasn't even trying to as I was wearing the heart rate monitor and was keeping it in the 80-85% zone as today was a pace run on my marathon training program.
It was only when I finished I realised my time. I reckon if I pushed myself I would have easily been under 50mins but as I was keeping an eye on my heart rate I didn't know I was so close to going under 50min.
Great feeling all the same and it proves something is working!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 02, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 02, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
I dunno if it's all the extra miles I'm doing or the heart rate training but I've just smashed my 10k personal best time by nearly 90 seconds,coming in just over 50mins.
50'14 to be exact.
I wasn't even trying to as I was wearing the heart rate monitor and was keeping it in the 80-85% zone as today was a pace run on my marathon training program.
It was only when I finished I realised my time. I reckon if I pushed myself I would have easily been under 50mins but as I was keeping an eye on my heart rate I didn't know I was so close to going under 50min.
Great feeling all the same and it proves something is working!

Great running - something's working whatever it is!! I've never considered hr when running. I figure if it's still beating then I'm fine!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 02, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
I think he means did you fall off the treadmill...!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 02, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 02, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
I think he means did you fall off the treadmill...!

I can see how it might look like that, but there is a full stop.

I meant the running fell off hence the lower kms.

BTW we are all using kms, aren't we?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 03, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 02, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 02, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
I think he means did you fall off the treadmill...!

I can see how it might look like that, but there is a full stop.

I meant the running fell off hence the lower kms.

BTW we are all using kms, aren't we?

I bloody hope so!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I went out for a run this morning, first time in the guts of a year as the weight is pushing relentlessly towards 16st  :( It was less than two miles and I am absolutely busted. I was a regular enough runner since I quit hurling about 5yrs ago. Nothing competitive or anything, couple of times a week, just to regulate the weight as I sit on my arse all day at work.

Will see how it goes !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 03, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
You're not alone, a lot of us were in the same boat before we got going with this lark. Well done on making the start, keep her lit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 03, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
You're not alone, a lot of us were in the same boat before we got going with this lark. Well done on making the start, keep her lit.

Cheers, from reading the thread over the last while it seems a lot have took it up for the same reasons, quit playing, work, kids = a gut !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I went out for a run this morning, first time in the guts of a year as the weight is pushing relentlessly towards 16st  :( It was less than two miles and I am absolutely busted. I was a regular enough runner since I quit hurling about 5yrs ago. Nothing competitive or anything, couple of times a week, just to regulate the weight as I sit on my arse all day at work.

Will see how it goes !

Stay out of the Kennedy centre at Lunchtime ya fat bastid  ;)  In fairness that's some feed lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I went out for a run this morning, first time in the guts of a year as the weight is pushing relentlessly towards 16st  :( It was less than two miles and I am absolutely busted. I was a regular enough runner since I quit hurling about 5yrs ago. Nothing competitive or anything, couple of times a week, just to regulate the weight as I sit on my arse all day at work.

Will see how it goes !

Stay out of the Kennedy centre at Lunchtime ya fat bastid  ;)  In fairness that's some feed lol

You weren't fckn eating lettuce yourself I would say !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I went out for a run this morning, first time in the guts of a year as the weight is pushing relentlessly towards 16st  :( It was less than two miles and I am absolutely busted. I was a regular enough runner since I quit hurling about 5yrs ago. Nothing competitive or anything, couple of times a week, just to regulate the weight as I sit on my arse all day at work.

Will see how it goes !

Stay out of the Kennedy centre at Lunchtime ya fat bastid  ;)  In fairness that's some feed lol

You weren't fckn eating lettuce yourself I would say !

Had the Chinese special!! Was heading to my mums with a sandwich all good stuff and they said they were at Kennedy centre, so feck it, I'd a tinge of guilt as I wolfed it down me he he, did I feck. Should have given you a shout for the over 35 hurling game we had yesterday, was a bitta craic
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 04, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
I'm training for my first half marathon at the end of August (less than 4 weeks now!!!)

How do you know what time to aim for? I went out for a run yesterday and tried to keep 5'45" pace up to see if I could keep that going - managed 15.5km and had to stop cos I was getting some severe, how to put this,  chafing issues. I was already starting to drop off the pace so I don't know if I should re-address my ambition.
I would have been registering about 167-170bpm for the first 10km or so, but that steadily rose to mid 170s which would be my theoretical 90% range.

Factors contributing to yesterday's run:
Did boot camp previous day so my quads were a bit sore / weary
Didn't have enough water on board earlier in the day, as I hadnt planned on going for a run
It was the first warm day in ages - about 20 deg, and I've only been running in the evenings for the last 3 months


Also, does anyone have any tips for dealing with runners chafe? I looked online and Bodyglide seems to be recommended - will this rub/sweat off?
Should I be wearing some sort of running undershorts??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 04, 2014, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on August 04, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
I'm training for my first half marathon at the end of August (less than 4 weeks now!!!)

How do you know what time to aim for? I went out for a run yesterday and tried to keep 5'45" pace up to see if I could keep that going - managed 15.5km and had to stop cos I was getting some severe, how to put this,  chafing issues. I was already starting to drop off the pace so I don't know if I should re-address my ambition.
I would have been registering about 167-170bpm for the first 10km or so, but that steadily rose to mid 170s which would be my theoretical 90% range.

Factors contributing to yesterday's run:
Did boot camp previous day so my quads were a bit sore / weary
Didn't have enough water on board earlier in the day, as I hadnt planned on going for a run
It was the first warm day in ages - about 20 deg, and I've only been running in the evenings for the last 3 months


Also, does anyone have any tips for dealing with runners chafe? I looked online and Bodyglide seems to be recommended - will this rub/sweat off?
Should I be wearing some sort of running undershorts??

I always use vaseline if I'm going 8 miles or more. Under the arms, particulars, between my toes and any other nooks and crannies. Works for me.
I often get hydration all wrong as well - I prefer running early in the morning and have a pint of water before I go. If I'm going 10 miles+ I loop somewhere so I can leave water and return to it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 05, 2014, 12:36:34 AM
Quote from: CD on August 04, 2014, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on August 04, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
I'm training for my first half marathon at the end of August (less than 4 weeks now!!!)

How do you know what time to aim for? I went out for a run yesterday and tried to keep 5'45" pace up to see if I could keep that going - managed 15.5km and had to stop cos I was getting some severe, how to put this,  chafing issues. I was already starting to drop off the pace so I don't know if I should re-address my ambition.
I would have been registering about 167-170bpm for the first 10km or so, but that steadily rose to mid 170s which would be my theoretical 90% range.

Factors contributing to yesterday's run:
Did boot camp previous day so my quads were a bit sore / weary
Didn't have enough water on board earlier in the day, as I hadnt planned on going for a run
It was the first warm day in ages - about 20 deg, and I've only been running in the evenings for the last 3 months


Also, does anyone have any tips for dealing with runners chafe? I looked online and Bodyglide seems to be recommended - will this rub/sweat off?
Should I be wearing some sort of running undershorts??

I always use vaseline if I'm going 8 miles or more. Under the arms, particulars, between my toes and any other nooks and crannies. Works for me.
I often get hydration all wrong as well - I prefer running early in the morning and have a pint of water before I go. If I'm going 10 miles+ I loop somewhere so I can leave water and return to it

Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 05, 2014, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!

I'm almost glad I've retired! Watch that hamstring MR! The old hernia could go at your age ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 05, 2014, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!
Very tight I'd say, if our boys could do a number on ye like they did on Friday  8)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!

That's grand, few factors involved with mine, played tournament Saturday and on wet pitch, refereed championship game on the Sunday and played again last night, well stretch (or so I thought) but the heavy grounds on Sat and Sun must have played a part, though on Monday night the pitch was hard!!  Just need to not worry about times and shuffle round the run  >:( >:( 

Won't be racing till Sept so after Saturday I can relax (though I've a lot of refereeing in between!!)

Maybe last year playing me feels, getting hand niggles and groin injuries from twisting and turning, not worth it now I'd say
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on August 05, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I have decided to bite the bullet and give Dublin a go, something else to strike off the bucket list...does anyone have a 12 week plan.. i have 4 half marathons under my belt this year and can do a half comfortably enough....Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 05, 2014, 05:28:13 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 05, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I have decided to bite the bullet and give Dublin a go, something else to strike off the bucket list...does anyone have a 12 week plan.. i have 4 half marathons under my belt this year and can do a half comfortably enough....Thanks.

I picked up this plan 2 weeks ago at week 5 - now on Week 7. I'm using Novice 2
[http://www.halhigdon.com//url]
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 05, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 05, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I have decided to bite the bullet and give Dublin a go, something else to strike off the bucket list...does anyone have a 12 week plan.. i have 4 half marathons under my belt this year and can do a half comfortably enough....Thanks.
You'll probably run it in your Suir hard hat!.....
Bingo is doing a 12 week plan I think. I'm 6 weeks into Hal Higdon intermediate 1 plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 05, 2014, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!
Very tight I'd say, if our boys could do a number on ye like they did on Friday  8)

Were you at it? We just had 15 and it took some work to get them out. Friday night was a balls for us. Prob wouldnt have won anyway but would have made more of a game of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 06, 2014, 09:43:31 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 05, 2014, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!
Very tight I'd say, if our boys could do a number on ye like they did on Friday  8)

Were you at it? We just had 15 and it took some work to get them out. Friday night was a balls for us. Prob wouldnt have won anyway but would have made more of a game of it.
Wasn't at it no, holding out for the final  :P You'd imagine we should have enough about us to win it out but your neighbours will be the main danger. Would be nice to finally win a championship, been too long without one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 06, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 06, 2014, 09:43:31 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 05, 2014, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Hamstring went last night while playing for club!! Only a full tri to do on Saturday ffs!! Been using the roller and stretching like mad. 10K around Kilbroney forrest park to worry about  :( :(

That's my big fear. In the middle of junior championship at the moment and tight for numbers so feel I'd be letting lads down if I pulled out to mind myself for a race. As it happens I'm away the next two weekends and then it's the race so conscience clear!
Very tight I'd say, if our boys could do a number on ye like they did on Friday  8)

Were you at it? We just had 15 and it took some work to get them out. Friday night was a balls for us. Prob wouldnt have won anyway but would have made more of a game of it.
Wasn't at it no, holding out for the final  :P You'd imagine we should have enough about us to win it out but your neighbours will be the main danger. Would be nice to finally win a championship, been too long without one.

They will be hard beaten. They have some really good players who would be regulars on most senior teams and crucially at this level, have guys who can score. That's where other club second teams get killed - any half decent scorer is playing senior/intermediate.

A lot of our good veterans have quit playing or been forced to retire all at once and it has reduced us from being competitive at this level to being pretty poor. Next year in Div 4 and probably Junior B we can get a few wins on the board.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Less of that football chat

So the 12 week plan from Maria started this week, five days running but she's given us paces to suit out proposed time until we get fitness tested


Here is a 5 day running Schedule, if running a 6th day make sure it is an easy aerobic run of no more than 45/50mins

1.Main Workout
5 by 2km rec 90 seconds
3 aim- 4.15 per km

2. 60mins easy recovery run (see times below for long run)

3. 40mins : 20min easy (see times below for Long run) 20mins pick up (15/20sec per km faster)
plus 8 by 80metres fast sprints, full recovery walk back

4. 45mins easy

5. Long Run (Saturday or Sunday whichever suits)
90mins - 2 hours. If you have been doing regular long runs do 2 hours
3 aim 5.05-5.15
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 08, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Less of that football chat

So the 12 week plan from Maria started this week, five days running but she's given us paces to suit out proposed time until we get fitness tested


Here is a 5 day running Schedule, if running a 6th day make sure it is an easy aerobic run of no more than 45/50mins

1.Main Workout
5 by 2km rec 90 seconds
3 aim- 4.15 per km

2. 60mins easy recovery run (see times below for long run)

3. 40mins : 20min easy (see times below for Long run) 20mins pick up (15/20sec per km faster)
plus 8 by 80metres fast sprints, full recovery walk back

4. 45mins easy

5. Long Run (Saturday or Sunday whichever suits)
90mins - 2 hours. If you have been doing regular long runs do 2 hours
3 aim 5.05-5.15

The first part seems OK but the bit in bold would completely kill me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
Is that the plan for the 12 weeks Mayo4sam or does it change week on week?

Long run about 8 minute miles should be grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 12:47:10 PM
Just this weeks, she's mentioned Saturday sessions where we'd do 22 miles but at different paces and breaking it up

Ballinaman, you're not looking in bad shape for a man home from Belgium and Croatia, that was me roaring at u at the bottom of Bohernasup
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Less of that football chat

So the 12 week plan from Maria started this week, five days running but she's given us paces to suit out proposed time until we get fitness tested


Here is a 5 day running Schedule, if running a 6th day make sure it is an easy aerobic run of no more than 45/50mins

1.Main Workout
5 by 2km rec 90 seconds
3 aim- 4.15 per km

2. 60mins easy recovery run (see times below for long run)

3. 40mins : 20min easy (see times below for Long run) 20mins pick up (15/20sec per km faster)
plus 8 by 80metres fast sprints, full recovery walk back

4. 45mins easy

5. Long Run (Saturday or Sunday whichever suits)
90mins - 2 hours. If you have been doing regular long runs do 2 hours
3 aim 5.05-5.15

The first part seems OK but the bit in bold would completely kill me!
She gives other paces for people planning a slower race
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on August 08, 2014, 01:11:14 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Less of that football chat

So the 12 week plan from Maria started this week, five days running but she's given us paces to suit out proposed time until we get fitness tested


Here is a 5 day running Schedule, if running a 6th day make sure it is an easy aerobic run of no more than 45/50mins

1.Main Workout
5 by 2km rec 90 seconds
3 aim- 4.15 per km

2. 60mins easy recovery run (see times below for long run)

3. 40mins : 20min easy (see times below for Long run) 20mins pick up (15/20sec per km faster)
plus 8 by 80metres fast sprints, full recovery walk back

4. 45mins easy

5. Long Run (Saturday or Sunday whichever suits)
90mins - 2 hours. If you have been doing regular long runs do 2 hours
3 aim 5.05-5.15

The first part seems OK but the bit in bold would completely kill me!

Is that 3 (km) aim 5.05-5.15?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 08, 2014, 01:15:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 12:47:10 PM
Just this weeks, she's mentioned Saturday sessions where we'd do 22 miles but at different paces and breaking it up

Ballinaman, you're not looking in bad shape for a man home from Belgium and Croatia, that was me roaring at u at the bottom of Bohernasup
Haha..didn't know who that was..aye, time to get my ass in gear after 2 weeks of debauchery.
Looks like you are going well too...
I've a heap of work to do...zero running for 5 weeks up until last Tuesday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 08, 2014, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:52:29 AM
Less of that football chat

So the 12 week plan from Maria started this week, five days running but she's given us paces to suit out proposed time until we get fitness tested


Here is a 5 day running Schedule, if running a 6th day make sure it is an easy aerobic run of no more than 45/50mins

1.Main Workout
5 by 2km rec 90 seconds
3 aim- 4.15 per km

2. 60mins easy recovery run (see times below for long run)

3. 40mins : 20min easy (see times below for Long run) 20mins pick up (15/20sec per km faster)
plus 8 by 80metres fast sprints, full recovery walk back

4. 45mins easy

5. Long Run (Saturday or Sunday whichever suits)
90mins - 2 hours. If you have been doing regular long runs do 2 hours
3 aim 5.05-5.15

The first part seems OK but the bit in bold would completely kill me!
She gives other paces for people planning a slower race

What time are you going for?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 06:13:25 PM
Aim at the minute is 3hr but realistically 3.05-3.10
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 08, 2014, 07:30:20 PM
The two words every runner dreads - SHIN SPLINTS
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
http://youtu.be/kv6ycmOWnq0

Great job
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 08, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
http://youtu.be/kv6ycmOWnq0

Great job

Thanks! Had shooting pains in bed last night and felt a few today. Have a 14 miler tomorrow so a wee bit worried. Never had shin splints before but have been told they're a nightmare!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2014, 07:58:06 PM
I read somewhere that shin splints can be a sign of over training?
I've a 7 mile pace run in the morning and then a 14mile slow run on Sunday. Will be in to Week 8 then. Feck this Marathon is getting close!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
Those did the job for me almost immediately
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 09, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
Did the loop (7+ miles of the 9+ mile route) again for what I reckon will be my last time before the race. Will do a good long one next weekend and bar that a few shorter ones to keep the engine ticking over. My last two miles were my quickest again which is what I'm aiming for all along. Was quite warm but was well hydrated and it went well. The fitness is good, I think I'll be ok. I'm going to do the last mile up to the summit and back down some evening(s) just to get a handle on the descent. Going up that last mile will be pretty much walking. Controlling the descent without tiring out the leg muscles for the last 4 miles is the plan for coming down. 2 weeks tomorrow. Nervous, but can't wait.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 09, 2014, 11:58:48 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 08, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
Those did the job for me almost immediately

Thanks again for that tip. Stretched the calf muscles repeatedly yesterday evening and again this morning. It really seems to help.

I managed to run just under 15 miles today. Ran 5.5miles to queens where I met a friend - we ran 6 miles+ together over trails and paths and then finished with our parkrun. Felt really comfortable all morning - I'm into completely unknown territory now - every big run I do is officially the furthest I have ever gone. If someone had said to me 6 months ago that I'd be running 15 miles beofore 10am on a Saturday morning!

Finished off there with freezing bath dips for 90 seconds then 60secs hot shower X 5. Hope it does the trick and keeps the muscles happy but feel great at the moment!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 09, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
Gettin back into it after a near 2 year lay off.Bad back hampered me,then general laziness didnt help. Ran my first ever Park run on Portrush beach this morning. Beautiful morning at a stunning location. Nearly 200 done it in all shape, sizes and ages. Enjoyed it and finished in a very modest 27 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 09, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 09, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
Gettin back into it after a near 2 year lay off.Bad back hampered me,then general laziness didnt help. Ran my first ever Park run on Portrush beach this morning. Beautiful morning at a stunning location. Nearly 200 done it in all shape, sizes and ages. Enjoyed it and finished in a very modest 27 mins.

Great running Sir! I've heard it's a lovely run - great time on sand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 11, 2014, 10:49:11 AM
Looking for a wee bit of advice please folks.

Planning on doing the Dublin Half Marathon.  It's the same weekend as All Ireland final weekend so figure it would be worthwhile doing and would try get to the Kilmacud 7s that day as well.

Wouldn't be much of a runner at all, done a couple of marathon relays over the years but that's about it.

Would anyone know of good running routes around Belfast that they'd reccommend as good preparation for a half marathon ?

So far i've just been hitting google maps and measuring up routes but if there's any good ones that people have experience of would be grateful to hear about them.

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 11, 2014, 10:53:58 AM
Doing it myself Atticus. The half Marathon will be in the Phoenix Park and will include some nice hills so I suppose you should practice a bit of hill running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on August 11, 2014, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 11, 2014, 10:49:11 AM
Looking for a wee bit of advice please folks.

Planning on doing the Dublin Half Marathon.  It's the same weekend as All Ireland final weekend so figure it would be worthwhile doing and would try get to the Kilmacud 7s that day as well.

Wouldn't be much of a runner at all, done a couple of marathon relays over the years but that's about it.

Would anyone know of good running routes around Belfast that they'd reccommend as good preparation for a half marathon ?

So far i've just been hitting google maps and measuring up routes but if there's any good ones that people have experience of would be grateful to hear about them.

Thanks

I was experimenting with routes around South Belfast recently, and found there's plenty of options.

Park your car somewhere around Cutters Wharf.

From Stranmillis roundabout, head to Malone Road (about 1k), take a left and then another left onto Newforge Road (1k), running down to Newforge (1.5k). Head onto the Lagan towpath and follow it into Stranmillis (3k), at Stanmillis, follow Annadale embankment. Cross Ormeau Road into Ormeau Park (2k) and run the length of it (1.5k). Take a left onto Ormeau embankment, cross Ormeau Road (1.5k) onto Stranmillis Embankment and head for your car (1.5k).

That gets you about 13k on a nice loop, with the only traffic congestion (apart from rush hours) being the first couple of km (which is also the only hills). Apart from that you've got almost 5k of park running, and the only crossroads of any pain is the Ormeau junction.

The nice thing about this route is if you're bucked, you can finish it at 6.5k (end of towpath), or make it a 10k by leaving out the Ormeau Park loop part of it.

You can extend it by adding in a couple of km of trails within Lagan Valley Park, or by taking a right out or Ormeau Park, going up Ravenhill, across the Albertbridge, then jumping on the Lagan Embankment, which takes you along the river until the Ormeau Road/Stranmillis Embankment junction, adding about 3k. Not a kick in the arse of a half marathon once you start tacking on like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on August 11, 2014, 11:21:11 AM
Also, if it's hills your after, head onto the trails in Lagan Valley Park between Stranmillis and Newforge and do a loop or two. All good running trails in terms of terrain, and undulating would be a kind word.

I found them by accident (and won't be back).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 11, 2014, 11:40:19 AM
Cheers Wobbler !

Good man Laois lad,  will try factor in a few hills in the training. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
Belvoir forest is as good as anywhere.... The gate into it is opposite the lockkeepers and there's a wee bridge over it.You get peace and quiet and some good downhills. You can also get into it over a footbridge just off the towpath between cutters wharf and the lockkeepers.

Is that lagan meadows you're talking about wobbler? It's the other side to belvoir with a good few paths of the towpath that take you into it. If you're running up the towpath the most obvious path is the one with the steps on it.  There's a good mile and a half in there with a good few hills too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on August 11, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
imtommygunn, yeah I'd think it is Lagan Meadows I'm referring to, though I do get confused by the jurisdictions along the Lagan towpath. Atticus, if you want to get more into hills, from Stranmillis Roundabout run up Richmond Park and at the end of that road, enter Lagan Meadows on your left. This takes you onto the aforementioned trails, and from then just keep turning right when you've a decision to make. Eventually you will end up on the towpath, and you'll be relieved for seeing it.





Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2014, 08:50:06 PM
Atticus, up raven hill road or ormeau road is probably enough of a hill in a long run
Doing it myself

Did 15 miles yesterday, 4.59/km, felt good
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 11, 2014, 10:43:37 PM
I run  south belfast all the time Atticus and I'm always trying new routes to keep it interesting. I run the Annaale own to the PEC and then towpath to Shaws Bridge sometimes - a lot of dogs and cyclists at times on this route. Out to the Carryduff roundabout and back is good - hilly and straiight if a bit boring . Purdysburn hill is a great climb. I also  run to Stormont and up to the top. Giants ring from the dub or mary peters track is a good mix of trail, road, path and grass but you'd get lost around there if you  didn't know the route.  Towpath from albert bridge to shaws is a favourite but  can be busy at times..
Title: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: No1 on August 12, 2014, 09:44:03 PM
Last time, I swear! Strangford Festival 10k, Friday 22nd August at 7.30pm. Time a few of you were signing up! Enter online on the Athletics NI website.

Oh and lfdown, your big, baldy brother in law can buy you the pints!! No secrets down our way!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
I suppose this could have went into any of the 'keeping fit' threads but as this is the most popular one I'll put it in here.

Completed my first full Olympic distance Triathlon on Saturday in Rostrevor, while I didn't really train for it, I thought being reasonably fit and having done 9 sprint ones, it be hard but should be ok, managed to hump round in 3.23 and while I was grand that day/night I have felt shit since, went to spin class on Monday to loosen legs up as they felt heavy, felt crap and haven't since found any enthusiasm.

Question is, is this par for the course when doing a major event? I.E if you lot do a marathon or something like that do you usually rest up for a week afterwards? Or if I had have trained properly for it would I have been grand?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 14, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
Quote from: CD on August 09, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 09, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
Gettin back into it after a near 2 year lay off.Bad back hampered me,then general laziness didnt help. Ran my first ever Park run on Portrush beach this morning. Beautiful morning at a stunning location. Nearly 200 done it in all shape, sizes and ages. Enjoyed it and finished in a very modest 27 mins.

Great running Sir! I've heard it's a lovely run - great time on sand.
It was a gorgeous morning hardly a cloud in the sky. Not so sure it would be so nice in the dead of winter!! Was mostly on firm sand bar gettin back onto the promenade to finish. Wouldnt have thought the sand would be much slower to run on. Have a long way before i get back to 5k in around 20 mins. Next target is to break 25mins by end of August!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 14, 2014, 10:27:49 PM
No bother to you. The sand would easily account for 2minutes! I've been running Donegal coast this  week - the wind nearly took my feet from under me yesterday! The only nice thing about 4 miles into the wind was the 4 miles home! Felt like I was gliding!.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 16, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
16 miles this morning in horrible weather. Must get the winter gear out of the attic! Very gusty and wet! Used gel at mile 10. Worked well. Felt really comfortable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
Me buddy Sean Hehir finished 20th in the Marathon this morning. Fair play to him.
He must be listening to my good advice  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2014, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
Me buddy Sean Hehir finished 20th in the Marathon this morning. Fair play to him.
He must be listening to my good advice  :)

Keep plugging the sponsorship LL. target nearly there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2014, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
Me buddy Sean Hehir finished 20th in the Marathon this morning. Fair play to him.
He must be listening to my good advice  :)

Keep plugging the sponsorship LL. target nearly there
Well past it at this stage MR2 I've a good bit of money I raised offline to add to it.
People can still sponsor me at the link below though  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2014, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2014, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 17, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
Me buddy Sean Hehir finished 20th in the Marathon this morning. Fair play to him.
He must be listening to my good advice  :)

Keep plugging the sponsorship LL. target nearly there
Well past it at this stage MR2 I've a good bit of money I raised offline to add to it.
People can still sponsor me at the link below though  ;)

That's brill, pressure off, run to concentrate on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 18, 2014, 09:57:28 AM
Haven't posted here in a while with holidays and work.

Started my marathon programme two weeks ago, which was also the first week of the holidays down in East Cork. Had been ticking along rightly before that, so hit the plan running (excuse the pun).

Have even managed to get two races done. Saw that a 5km was on when down in Cork in Cloyne, checked it out and was a very popular one. Took myself over to it, was a lovely evening and myself and Bingo junior had a bit of a puck around in Christy Ring Park and admired his statute, which is very impressive. As is their new grounds. Anyway, massice ground for race and high in quality. Didn't know what time I'd do with the holiday food and done a tough 8 miles the day before. Finished just over 19mins in a very good race with 599 finishers in it.

Was a local 10miler on yesterday in Monaghan. Had ruled it out as plan called for 15miles and woman was on a hen Saturday night but turned out she was back early and was going to run it herself, so down we went. Registered, did 4miles round the town before the start and took off with the run. Great ground of near 500 doing it, was a good run despite the windy conditions. Started faster than I intended and kept a decent pace. Had planned to ease round it but got in a bit of race with a lad from Carmen. Passed him at 3 miles, he came back at 7 miles and could tell he put a lot in and he never pulled away despite coming from about 300 yards back on me. Passed him with a mile to go and he tried to stay with me but I pushed on. It was a fast finish and I picked up and he came like a rocket in last 100 yards. I got to the line ahead of him and we had a good laugh when we got the breath back. Finished in 1.08.45, which is a PB.

Will have to look at this weeks running as legs feel it today and will likely have to ease the pace a bit this week. Hopefully no more races till after the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Anyone with an entry to the 10 miler on Saturday in ye PP?
Left it too late to enter
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
Anyone doing the Frank Duffy 10 mile on Saturday?
Have ran the course a few times now and hoping for a good time (for me)
Be delighted to go under 1:30.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 21, 2014, 03:30:07 PM
I'll see you there LL, got a mates entry after all
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 21, 2014, 03:30:07 PM
I'll see you there LL, got a mates entry after all
You'll have the course done twice before I finish it once!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
Anyone doing the Frank Duffy 10 mile on Saturday?
Have ran the course a few times now and hoping for a good time (for me)
Be delighted to go under 1:30.

That will be a really decent time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
Anyone doing the Frank Duffy 10 mile on Saturday?
Have ran the course a few times now and hoping for a good time (for me)
Be delighted to go under 1:30.

That will be a really decent time
(https://warosu.org/data/lit/img/0047/18/1396210044624.png)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 21, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
Anyone doing the Frank Duffy 10 mile on Saturday?
Have ran the course a few times now and hoping for a good time (for me)
Be delighted to go under 1:30.

That will be a really decent time
(https://warosu.org/data/lit/img/0047/18/1396210044624.png)

If you run at 7mph you'll finish under 1.30, that should be well within your capability. If you averaged out (remember only 10 miles) at 7.5mph you'd be at 1.20 mins. But I suppose being so close to the Marathon you be best taking it careful
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 22, 2014, 11:20:39 AM
So went and did a VO2 max test last nite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VO2_max

It was 62.4 for anyone interested thats done it before

More interesting were my HR zones for running.
I reach my lactate threshold at 171, which apparently when compared to my max HR, 189, is good, because they are close. I think it means in theory I could run at that HR for a long time, it equates to a pace of 4min/km

He said I need to do my longer runs at a higher HR, that I've more in the tank than I realise and I need to push myself

So thats my target for saturday, 4min/km, keeping my HR at about 165-168


As an aside, he was telling me about another lad that he trains, MAX HR of 198, reaches lactatethreshold at 196. Has an 80% recovery rate in two minutes, will do a 2hr 20 marathon
Have you ever heard of a Canty lad Ballinaman? From Mayo apparently, only took up running in the last few years
Must be an animal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 22, 2014, 12:15:06 PM
€50 for that ML
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2014, 12:39:16 PM
I've only had the LT one done M4S but not the VO2 max.

I think mine came out bang on the 85% heart rate and the pace was something like 6:07 a mile for lactate threshold. It's interesting if you're into that kind of thing. I would expect the pros would do that kind of thing quite regularly and it shows you how scientific the endurance stuff could actually be.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
I did a free one in Jordanstown about four years ago. They'd also this fancy biomechanical assessment. However the guy who was doing it wasn't very good with communication so never got the biomechanical assessment results.

Jordanstown has all the gear for that stuff - it has the anti gravity treadmills and all too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 23, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Best of luck to Seanie in the warrior run and the lads doing the 10miler in the park. Great day for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 23, 2014, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 23, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Best of luck to Seanie in the warrior run and the lads doing the 10miler in the park. Great day for it.
+1 Would like to try it in the future. Did 16miles this morning - saw my first kingfishers. Made my day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 23, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Best of luck to Seanie in the warrior run and the lads doing the 10miler in the park. Great day for it.

Best of luck Seanie and to LL and co in the Phoenix Park.

Did my first park run this morning. I timed it at 23:40 but I will wait for the proper time (if I get one as I screwed up the token/barcode).

That would be a PB after a poor 4 weeks.

Memo to self: If I ever try for the DCM in October I will need to be very disciplined in July & August AND Mayo will have to be out of the Championship early.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
24.30 in the parkrun this morning. Beat my under 25 target by end of August with a week to spare! New target. Not to be lapped by the winner next time!! :-)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
24.30 in the parkrun this morning. Beat my under 25 target by end of August with a week to spare! New target. Not to be lapped by the winner next time!! :-)

Well done. Which park run was it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
24.30 in the parkrun this morning. Beat my under 25 target by end of August with a week to spare! New target. Not to be lapped by the winner next time!! :-)

Well done. Which park run was it?
Cookstown. Getting chased by Tyrone weemen helps you run faster!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on August 23, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
24.30 in the parkrun this morning. Beat my under 25 target by end of August with a week to spare! New target. Not to be lapped by the winner next time!! :-)

Well done. Which park run was it?
Cookstown. Getting chased by Tyrone weemen helps you run faster!!

I could see that working alright!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
Thanks for the well wishes lads but it turned into a bit of disaster for me today.
Was buzzing at the start and maybe a bit too pumped up and went out way too fast.
I fell in with a crowd wearing Drogheda Athletics bibs and they seemed to be having good banter among themselves so it was easy enough follow them.
I didn't realise though the pace I was running at and ran the first 3 miles in about 23mins.Bare in mind my fastest 5k is only 24'39 so I was going way too fast for a 10mile.
Around mile 5 I started to feel the burn and by mile 7 I was almost dead on my feet. The hill inside the Chapelizod gate to the Phoenix Park almost killed me and I have ran that hill dozens of times in training without any bother.
I managed to struggle home in 1:35 and I'm very disappointed with that. I really felt with the way my training was going I'd easily go under 1:30. I've actually done longer training runs at a faster pace than my final average pace today.
I learned a few harsh lessons today that will hopefully stand to me in future races.
Very disappointed after it all.

Well done to you muppet thats a fantastic time. Also best of luck to seanie today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
Thanks for the well wishes lads but it turned into a bit of disaster for me today.
Was buzzing at the start and maybe a bit too pumped up and went out way too fast.
I fell in with a crowd wearing Drogheda Athletics bibs and they seemed to be having good banter among themselves so it was easy enough follow them.
I didn't realise though the pace I was running at and ran the first 3 miles in about 23mins.Bare in mind my fastest 5k is only 24'39 so I was going way too fast for a 10mile.
Around mile 5 I started to feel the burn and by mile 7 I was almost dead on my feet. The hill inside the Chapelizod gate to the Phoenix Park almost killed me and I have ran that hill dozens of times in training without any bother.
I managed to struggle home in 1:35 and I'm very disappointed with that. I really felt with the way my training was going I'd easily go under 1:30. I've actually done longer training runs at a faster pace than my final average pace today.
I learned a few harsh lessons today that will hopefully stand to me in future races.
Very disappointed after it all.

Well done to you muppet thats a fantastic time. Also best of luck to seanie today.

I sounds like you easily did a PB in the first 5k. 1:35 is still pretty good and you still have 2 months to go.

The head plays funny games when running in an event. I nearly f*cked myself up today with a guy who was cutting corners and obviously trying to stay ahead of me. I decided to ignore him after a while, and settled back into my own race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 01:44:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
Thanks for the well wishes lads but it turned into a bit of disaster for me today.
Was buzzing at the start and maybe a bit too pumped up and went out way too fast.
I fell in with a crowd wearing Drogheda Athletics bibs and they seemed to be having good banter among themselves so it was easy enough follow them.
I didn't realise though the pace I was running at and ran the first 3 miles in about 23mins.Bare in mind my fastest 5k is only 24'39 so I was going way too fast for a 10mile.
Around mile 5 I started to feel the burn and by mile 7 I was almost dead on my feet. The hill inside the Chapelizod gate to the Phoenix Park almost killed me and I have ran that hill dozens of times in training without any bother.
I managed to struggle home in 1:35 and I'm very disappointed with that. I really felt with the way my training was going I'd easily go under 1:30. I've actually done longer training runs at a faster pace than my final average pace today.
I learned a few harsh lessons today that will hopefully stand to me in future races.
Very disappointed after it all.

Well done to you muppet thats a fantastic time. Also best of luck to seanie today.

I sounds like you easily did a PB in the first 5k. 1:35 is still pretty good and you still have 2 months to go.

The head plays funny games when running in an event. I nearly f*cked myself up today with a guy who was cutting corners and obviously trying to stay ahead of me. I decided to ignore him after a while, and settled back into my own race.
Probably a PB for 5k alright Muppet I didn't even think of that. I dunno does it count if its part of a longer race.
To be honest it means nothing to me anyway as I'm so annoyed with the way the rest of the race went.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2014, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 01:44:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2014, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2014, 12:41:23 PM
Thanks for the well wishes lads but it turned into a bit of disaster for me today.
Was buzzing at the start and maybe a bit too pumped up and went out way too fast.
I fell in with a crowd wearing Drogheda Athletics bibs and they seemed to be having good banter among themselves so it was easy enough follow them.
I didn't realise though the pace I was running at and ran the first 3 miles in about 23mins.Bare in mind my fastest 5k is only 24'39 so I was going way too fast for a 10mile.
Around mile 5 I started to feel the burn and by mile 7 I was almost dead on my feet. The hill inside the Chapelizod gate to the Phoenix Park almost killed me and I have ran that hill dozens of times in training without any bother.
I managed to struggle home in 1:35 and I'm very disappointed with that. I really felt with the way my training was going I'd easily go under 1:30. I've actually done longer training runs at a faster pace than my final average pace today.
I learned a few harsh lessons today that will hopefully stand to me in future races.
Very disappointed after it all.

Well done to you muppet thats a fantastic time. Also best of luck to seanie today.

I sounds like you easily did a PB in the first 5k. 1:35 is still pretty good and you still have 2 months to go.

The head plays funny games when running in an event. I nearly f*cked myself up today with a guy who was cutting corners and obviously trying to stay ahead of me. I decided to ignore him after a while, and settled back into my own race.
Probably a PB for 5k alright Muppet I didn't even think of that. I dunno does it count if its part of a longer race.
To be honest it means nothing to me anyway as I'm so annoyed with the way the rest of the race went.

Was at an event few months ago (Downpatrick 10k) and that was the case for a lad I was running with, he was hell bent on staying with me and by the 5k mark he was doing grand, the first major hill came and he blew up, walked the hill and then jogged the rest.

I'd said in previous post if you'd have kept a 7mph pace you'd have been grand, being disciplined is the hardest thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 24, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Well I did it. Got to the finish line in 1:46:58 but by Christ was it tough. My race actually went well enough to plan except I underestimated the damage the mountain climb and descent would do to me. Got to the turn off into the field in 27 minutes which was as planned. The climb just went on and on and on. Was at the top at 57 mins. Descent took about 10 minutes and was ok despite me fears beforehand. At 6k to go I realised beating my brothers first Warriors Run time of 1:42 was not on. I was at 1:12 with 6k left. With 4k left I was dying. I actually felt I wasn't moving at all and contemplated stopping. I now realise that it was simply that I ran out of fuel. Somehow I grinded it out to the finish line. Every cheer of "come on Seánie" in the closing stages kept me going, it's amazing the lift it gives you. Couldn't lift my head to look at the big screen as I approached the line but raising my fist at the line was some feeling. I'm actually quite emotional writing this now and would have been in tears at the time if I was able to cry. I now really know what empytying the tank means. Immediately I promised myself not only would I never do the Warriors again but that I would never run again!!!!!! The pain was incredible but the high and elation I experienced as the evening went on was something else. Had a few bottles of water, picked up the bag and in for a couple of pints. After going home, doing a fantasy NFL draft and burying a large pizza we went out for the night and it was just a great night. I was talking to loads of people, analysing how I can improve for next year.

Went for a 3 miles recovery run there a while ago. Legs very stiff, hope it will help me be able to walk tomorrow.

Thanks for all the good wishes and support. This was personal to me and you folks helped me along the way.

Well done to the guys on the PB's and LL - you'll learn a serious amount from that 10 miler so chin up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 24, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
Fair play magpie, that run and finishing it obviously meant a lot to you. It's great to achieve something like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 25, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
Fair play Seanie, great running and great report. Hard to beat targeting a big race and coming through it.

LL, well done on the run. Down the line having a race experience like that could be the best thing that happens to you, better getting the pace wrong on Saturday rather than the half or even worse the full marathon. I'd say it happens to everyone at least once.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on August 25, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
At the other end of the spectrum, I would be happy to break 27 mins for 5k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 25, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Had a bit of a disaster at the 10 miler myself, not enough sleep over the last few weeks meant I was very tired. HR through the roof for a lot of the race, probably paced myself well enough, I was dead coming home, 68.34.
But like LL I'll learn from this race.
Apparently this equates to a 3.12 marathon, and thats outside my goal, plenty of work to do and Mayo arent helping!

Well done on all the racing lads, fair play
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on August 25, 2014, 12:22:06 PM
Duncairn Nomads in north Belfast used to have an annual 15 mile road race that went down from the Ballysillan and up the Antrim Road to Glengormley. I surprised myself by being under 60 mins at the 10 mile mark but the last mile back up the Ballysillan hills was torture. Finished in a good time but sick as a dog after I crossed the line. My time was 1 hr 29 min 5 secs.

Keep it going while you can lads. It won't last forever
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on August 25, 2014, 01:46:50 PM
Is it too late to start training for the Dublin marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 24, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Well I did it. Got to the finish line in 1:46:58 but by Christ was it tough. My race actually went well enough to plan except I underestimated the damage the mountain climb and descent would do to me. Got to the turn off into the field in 27 minutes which was as planned. The climb just went on and on and on. Was at the top at 57 mins. Descent took about 10 minutes and was ok despite me fears beforehand. At 6k to go I realised beating my brothers first Warriors Run time of 1:42 was not on. I was at 1:12 with 6k left. With 4k left I was dying. I actually felt I wasn't moving at all and contemplated stopping. I now realise that it was simply that I ran out of fuel. Somehow I grinded it out to the finish line. Every cheer of "come on Seánie" in the closing stages kept me going, it's amazing the lift it gives you. Couldn't lift my head to look at the big screen as I approached the line but raising my fist at the line was some feeling. I'm actually quite emotional writing this now and would have been in tears at the time if I was able to cry. I now really know what empytying the tank means. Immediately I promised myself not only would I never do the Warriors again but that I would never run again!!!!!! The pain was incredible but the high and elation I experienced as the evening went on was something else. Had a few bottles of water, picked up the bag and in for a couple of pints. After going home, doing a fantasy NFL draft and burying a large pizza we went out for the night and it was just a great night. I was talking to loads of people, analysing how I can improve for next year.

Went for a 3 miles recovery run there a while ago. Legs very stiff, hope it will help me be able to walk tomorrow.

Thanks for all the good wishes and support. This was personal to me and you folks helped me along the way.

Well done to the guys on the PB's and LL - you'll learn a serious amount from that 10 miler so chin up.

Fair play Seanie, great achievement. It sounds like one brutal event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 23, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Best of luck to Seanie in the warrior run and the lads doing the 10miler in the park. Great day for it.

Best of luck Seanie and to LL and co in the Phoenix Park.

Did my first park run this morning. I timed it at 23:40 but I will wait for the proper time (if I get one as I screwed up the token/barcode).

That would be a PB after a poor 4 weeks.

Memo to self: If I ever try for the DCM in October I will need to be very disciplined in July & August AND Mayo will have to be out of the Championship early.

Officially 23:32 and nearly a minute off my (non-treadmill) best.  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Some running Muppet fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Some running Muppet fair play.

If you were running an app for your 10 miler you may be able to work out the split times for your first 5k. It sounded like you really went off quick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
Good running you two. Adrenaline can get the better of you LL. It's not the end of the world though - it's possibly a good lesson for the marathon as if you go off like that in it you could be in trouble!! Very hard to get your pace right in races at times until you have a few under the belt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Some running Muppet fair play.

If you were running an app for your 10 miler you may be able to work out the split times for your first 5k. It sounded like you really went off quick.
23:50 for the 5k according to my gps watch splits.
I was never going to be able keep that pace for 10 miles.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 26, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
Shows you've a good fast 5k in you is what I'd take out of that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:01:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Some running Muppet fair play.

If you were running an app for your 10 miler you may be able to work out the split times for your first 5k. It sounded like you really went off quick.
23:50 for the 5k according to my gps watch splits.
I was never going to be able keep that pace for 10 miles.

There you go, is that a PB?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:01:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Some running Muppet fair play.

If you were running an app for your 10 miler you may be able to work out the split times for your first 5k. It sounded like you really went off quick.
23:50 for the 5k according to my gps watch splits.
I was never going to be able keep that pace for 10 miles.

There you go, is that a PB?
Yeah by about 50secs but I'm not going to count it as it's only from the watch splits and it was part of a longer race.
Looking forward to doing park runs again when this Marathon is over!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on August 26, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
Frig it going to enter the marathon anyway and start the training now - see how I get on.

Can someone post a link to the 2014 marathon route - would like to see where it actually goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on August 26, 2014, 04:54:03 PM
Thanks LL
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on August 28, 2014, 02:50:01 PM
Done my longest run to date on Tues night - 9 mile (1hr 19min) - found it very tough - starting to worry that 2 months isn't enough time to get into shape for the Marathon!

PS Does anyone use the nike running app? Looking a few friend adds to measure myself against something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
Getting used to training with the HRM now that the VO2 max test is done

Had a threshold session on tuesday nite, after being on the beer sunday, really had to rein in the pace to keep the HR where it was meant to be
Then last nite had a 70 min Zone 1 run, f**k me thats a pain, just above a brisk walk!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 30, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
Did my first long run today via HR.
So previously had been sticking to 5min/km for 15 and 16 miles, struggled towards the end to hold it.
So today set off with just HR and total time on the watch. My lactate threshold is at 171 so decided on 155-160 for the run. The plan was 2.5hrs, stuck handily enough to the HR, felt it slacking off at times but was easy to pick it up. Tired at the end but came in it 4.53/km, delighted with that.

Now off to Limerick to light the place up (literally) with Ballinaman!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 30, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 30, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
Did my first long run today via HR.
So previously had been sticking to 5min/km for 15 and 16 miles, struggled towards the end to hold it.
So today set off with just HR and total time on the watch. My lactate threshold is at 171 so decided on 155-160 for the run. The plan was 2.5hrs, stuck handily enough to the HR, felt it slacking off at times but was easy to pick it up. Tired at the end but came in it 4.53/km, delighted with that.

Now off to Limerick to light the place up (literally) with Ballinaman!

Great stuff Mayo4Sam.

ParkRun again this morning.

Set out to take it handy and just try to get within 30 seconds of last week's 23:32. Then saw a Kerry jersey ahead of me. The green and red mist descended. Just after half way I passed him. Ran the rest telling myself there is no way I am letting him catch me in the last few metres. 23:12 official!

And still no sign of the Kerry jersey.

On my way to Limerick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 30, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
Good man muppet, Maigh Eo Abu!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 30, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
Fair play Muppet you're flying it.
I went and did the Frank Duffy 10mile course again today.
1'35 last week 1'27 today.
Paced myself much better than the race last week and had loads left in the tank at the end.
Needed to do it to get last week's disappointed out of my head.
17miles to do tomorrow  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 30, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
Fair play Muppet you're flying it.
I went and did the Frank Duffy 10mile course again today.
1'35 last week 1'27 today.
Paced myself much better than the race last week and had loads left in the tank at the end.
Needed to do it to get last week's disappointed out of my head.
17miles to do tomorrow  :-\

Good man. 1:27 is a big improvement and it sounds like you were comfortable at the end. That obviously is a better reflection of how well you are going in training. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 30, 2014, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
Fair play Muppet you're flying it.
I went and did the Frank Duffy 10mile course again today.
1'35 last week 1'27 today.
Paced myself much better than the race last week and had loads left in the tank at the end.
Needed to do it to get last week's disappointed out of my head.
17miles to do tomorrow  :-\
-
Great improvement there - that's a real confidence booster! At 17 miles this morning myself - actually ran 17.8! That's the first time I've struggled a bit - found that last mile tough but felt great afterwards. I think that's the way it's going to be each week now - every mile after 16 is really tough. I suppose it's good preparation - having to grit the teeth and really dig in at the end. Good luck tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 31, 2014, 09:06:02 AM
Fcuk me that was tough. 17.3 miles done this morning at 9'38 min a mile pace.
Last 2 miles were torture but I got there.
Time for a cold bath and a sleep before the Liverpool Spurs game.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 31, 2014, 01:24:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2014, 09:06:02 AM
Fcuk me that was tough. 17.3 miles done this morning at 9'38 min a mile pace.
Last 2 miles were torture but I got there.
Time for a cold bath and a sleep before the Liverpool Spurs game.

Fantastic running - well done - really struggled with those last couple of miles myself!

My mile times were all over the place because I started by doing 4 miles on my own, then did Parkrun, then ran 10.8miles with a mate. Varied from 7.30s to 9.10s I think. I need to settle into a steady pace soon - I used a lot of energy early on yesterday and I think that contributed to my tough finish.

I bought a box of the high 5 gels because I think they're the ones they hand out in Dublin. I used one yesterday at about 12 miles and definitely got a wee kick from it. Felt a bit queazy for a few hours after I'd finished but I think that was just my body craving various salts etc, rather than a side effect of the gel. I'll try it again next week and see.

Went to the swimming pool this morning with the kids - great therapy for the legs after yesterday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 01, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2014, 09:06:02 AM
Fcuk me that was tough. 17.3 miles done this morning at 9'38 min a mile pace.
Last 2 miles were torture but I got there.
Time for a cold bath and a sleep before the Liverpool Spurs game.

Good going LL - Was out myself Saturday. I was suppose to do 13.1mile according to Nike coach - I found it very tough only managed about 11 mile - although a few things conspired against me - My phone ran out of juice at about 10 mile so I had no way of knowing what pace I was running at or what distance I was doing. Also felt a great need for the toilet so had to take a short cut home from the intended 13 mile route  :-[ :-[
Lessoned learned there. I have to build up to 16mile this Saturday and I'm starting to wonder if I am having trouble with 13 mile at this stage I won't have a hope of 26 by end of October.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 01, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2014, 09:06:02 AM
Fcuk me that was tough. 17.3 miles done this morning at 9'38 min a mile pace.
Last 2 miles were torture but I got there.
Time for a cold bath and a sleep before the Liverpool Spurs game.

Good going LL - Was out myself Saturday. I was suppose to do 13.1mile according to Nike coach - I found it very tough only managed about 11 mile - although a few things conspired against me - My phone ran out of juice at about 10 mile so I had no way of knowing what pace I was running at or what distance I was doing. Also felt a great need for the toilet so had to take a short cut home from the intended 13 mile route  :-[ :-[
Lessoned learned there. I have to build up to 16mile this Saturday and I'm starting to wonder if I am having trouble with 13 mile at this stage I won't have a hope of 26 by end of October.

Haven't a clue tbh. Maybe one of the more experienced fellas on here can tell you more. I would have thought with only 8 weeks left you should be a least at 13 miles at this stage. I think you need to do at least one 20mile before the big day. I have two to do going by my training plan.
Are you doing half marathon in September.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 01, 2014, 01:17:54 PM
Im still thinking about it! I suppose I could do it and see how I go and then decide whether to enter the full marathon after that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 01, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
What sort of a course is the Dublin Marathon?  Would it be fairly flat or are there a few leg busting hills?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 01, 2014, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 01, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
What sort of a course is the Dublin Marathon?  Would it be fairly flat or are there a few leg busting hills?

Its fairly flat, no big long hills of note. Short testing one round UCD, Roebuck hill. Its hardly that it should be cause its round 21miles, with new route this year could even be at 23miles which makes it harder than it should be but plenty of support on it and good downhill after it. Its nothing to worry about.

After a really good start to August, I'd a few bad weeks which came off the back of a couple unexpected races. Bad weeks in that I just didn't hit the miles I planned. Was even considering weather to run Dublin at all.

Got out early on Sunday, planned 16 miles and they went very well. Ran with the club and we'd a good turnout, about a dozen or so. Main run was at 9am which was 10miles, so a few headed early to get another 6 miles in. Felt I'd done them afterwards but could have kept going. Averaged 7.20 per mile for the 16 and finished with a 6.30min mile.

Back on the happy bus  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 01, 2014, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 01, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
What sort of a course is the Dublin Marathon?  Would it be fairly flat or are there a few leg busting hills?

Got out early on Sunday, planned 16 miles and they went very well. Ran with the club and we'd a good turnout, about a dozen or so. Main run was at 9am which was 10miles, so a few headed early to get another 6 miles in. Felt I'd done them afterwards but could have kept going. Averaged 7.20 per mile for the 16 and finished with a 6.30min mile.

Back on the happy bus  ;D

I hate you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Seriously though how do you boys manage to keep that pace for so long..
I finished with a 8'15 mile at the end of 17 miles on Sunday and I was delighted with it... :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 01, 2014, 05:47:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 01, 2014, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 01, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
What sort of a course is the Dublin Marathon?  Would it be fairly flat or are there a few leg busting hills?

Got out early on Sunday, planned 16 miles and they went very well. Ran with the club and we'd a good turnout, about a dozen or so. Main run was at 9am which was 10miles, so a few headed early to get another 6 miles in. Felt I'd done them afterwards but could have kept going. Averaged 7.20 per mile for the 16 and finished with a 6.30min mile.

Back on the happy bus  ;D

I hate you.

;D  ;D

I'm on Dublin marathon #3, you've it all ahead of you  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 01, 2014, 05:57:22 PM
I don't know if I could do one 6.30 mile!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 01, 2014, 07:27:36 PM
I haven't joined the league table but we did 16 on Saturday in exactly 128 minutes, hitting our target of 8 minute miles. Looking forward to this time 8 weeks when I can hopefully celebrate with all the posters here, as well as Donegal's second Sam,Marty Clarke's return and Balotelli's player of the month award.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on September 01, 2014, 07:27:36 PM
I haven't joined the league table but we did 16 on Saturday in exactly 128 minutes, hitting our target of 8 minute miles. Looking forward to this time 8 weeks when I can hopefully celebrate with all the posters here, as well as Donegal's second Sam,Marty Clarke's return and Balotelli's player of the month award.
Ha I like your thinking!
How many of us are doing it anyway?
Myself
Mayo4Sam
Bingo
Dubh Driocht
CD
WT4E
Ballinaman

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 01, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
Someone didn't use the latest copy
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 01, 2014, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on September 01, 2014, 07:27:36 PM
I haven't joined the league table but we did 16 on Saturday in exactly 128 minutes, hitting our target of 8 minute miles. Looking forward to this time 8 weeks when I can hopefully celebrate with all the posters here, as well as Donegal's second Sam,Marty Clarke's return and Balotelli's player of the month award.
Ha I like your thinking!
How many of us are doing it anyway?
Myself
Mayo4Sam
Bingo
Dubh Driocht
CD
WT4E
Ballinaman
iv signed up as well though the weekend has put the fear in me. Ran a long hill at the start of a 16 miler and by 14 miles the legs gave up. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 01, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on September 01, 2014, 07:27:36 PM
I haven't joined the league table but we did 16 on Saturday in exactly 128 minutes, hitting our target of 8 minute miles. Looking forward to this time 8 weeks when I can hopefully celebrate with all the posters here, as well as Donegal's second Sam,Marty Clarke's return and Balotelli's player of the month award.
Ha I like your thinking!
How many of us are doing it anyway?
Myself
Mayo4Sam
Bingo
Dubh Driocht
CD
WT4E
Ballinaman

Hopefully I will do it - I'm giving myself two more weeks and if I've improved sufficiently I'll sign up! Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
The journal.ie rang me last week looking for a few words for an article they were doing on the Marathon.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/dublin-marathon-fundraising-difficulites-1653690-Sep2014/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 06, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 06, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
The journal.ie rang me last week looking for a few words for an article they were doing on the Marathon.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/dublin-marathon-fundraising-difficulites-1653690-Sep2014/

Fantastic article Laoislad - hope you get plenty of support of the back of it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 06, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
So I went beyond 20 miles for the first time this morning (20.55). Arrived at the start of parkrun after mile 6 and completed it in just under 8 minute miles then headed straight on out. Beautiful morning, perfect for running and I felt like I had another mile or two in the legs. Took two of the high 5 gels, one at 12 miles and one at 17 just to ensure I don't get a dodgy belly from them and I was fine and I felt  the wee energy boost and was glad of it. Freezing cold bath when I got home, and while I'm pretty tired at this point, I don't have any niggles or aches. Deep muscle massage scheduled for Wednesday night and Belfast 1/2 for this next weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 07, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: CD on September 06, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
So I went beyond 20 miles for the first time this morning (20.55).
Brilliant running, well done. Will be interested to hear how Belfast half goes this year

Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 07, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
18 miles done this morning, did it with some other local runners...did the first 9 miles at 7.30 pace at let them off then, finished up at 2.40 :o... The last 3 were murder, but the fast pace at the begining will stand to me I am sure... A 20miler next week.... ;)...can't wait! Lol









Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 07, 2014, 01:05:43 PM
Did 20 miles myself this morning. Well 20.2 to be exact. Did the .2 so I could say only 6 more miles to a Marathon!
Felt good. Was only suppose to do 18 but just kept going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 07, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 07, 2014, 01:05:43 PM
Did 20 miles myself this morning. Well 20.2 to be exact. Did the .2 so I could say only 6 more miles to a Marathon!
Felt good. Was only suppose to do 18 but just kept going.

Great stuff LL.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 07, 2014, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 07, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 07, 2014, 01:05:43 PM
Did 20 miles myself this morning. Well 20.2 to be exact. Did the .2 so I could say only 6 more miles to a Marathon!
Felt good. Was only suppose to do 18 but just kept going.

Great stuff LL.

Big Milestone - well done - a psychological battle won there!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 08, 2014, 10:05:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 06, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
The journal.ie rang me last week looking for a few words for an article they were doing on the Marathon.
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/dublin-marathon-fundraising-difficulites-1653690-Sep2014/

Well done LL - Hope you raise loads for a great cause! I'll donate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 08, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
Jeez, I hope Eoghan misses out on the auld bald gene, bad enough to be a dub/laois lad nevermind throwing that on top of him too.
Fair play, good to get the exposure like that


Did Achill Roar on Saturday, knew a few going down to it and decided I wanted somethign that wasnt running, tough 8k of a beach run and then up a boggy mountain, thought my calves would be in bits sunday but they were grand.

Sunday we were planned out for 18 miles but the loop round the woods in Ballina is 5 miles so said I'd do 20.
the first 15 were at zone one heart rate, so really slow, then the last 5 at race pace. Qas getting tired during the 15 miles, 2.5 hrs is a long time to be on ur feet and thought I'd struggle with the last 5 miles but flew them, 36 mins, felt great, had load of energy and power and was keeping an eye on my HR but could have gone faster.
Strange session

Plan for this week

Tuesday Session
4 by 3km Threshold Pace/Moderate Zone/Zone 2
Recovery 2.30mins

Wednesday
Easy recovery 70mins
Low Zone/Zone 1

Thursday
Fartlek Session
10min easy jog
2 times 8mins/4mins/3mins = 30mins of continuous running
10km/5km/5km pace
10mins easy jog

Fri/Sat
Easy 60mins

Sunday
20miles or 35km Low Zone with the last 7miles/12km @Threshold pace/Zone 2/Moderate Zone
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 08, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
I was out myself at the weekend as some of you know - started marathon training a tad late. Done 16 mile on Saturday - Felt dodgy after about 3 mile but then felt comfortable until about 13 mile and then I hit a wall - had to stop a few times on last 3 mile and was totally shattered when I made it back home! Time 2hr 20 - Avg 8.51/mile

I have entered the Dublin Half in two weeks - but the programme I'm doing is the marathon (still have not entered and still not sure if I will) SO I was wondering should I adjust my plan in prep for Half as the training might be too intense for half next week in particular?

PS would those gels you talk about have prevented my lapses in the last 3 mile?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 08, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Great read LL and I'll send through a donation to your page today. Your training looking good as well.

That's right going Mayo4sam, doing Achill and a 20 miler on Sunday. Tight!

Had a decent week myself.

9miles on Wednesday, mostly at MP pace.
5miles recovery on Thursday.
9 miles on Friday 4x1miles at half MP, 1m recovery between.
5 miles recovery on Saturday
18 miles yesterday. Ran first 5 at good pace, eased off for next 6miles and ran easy with a few others and than pushed on for last 7miles. Averaged 7.40m over the run and legs left it afterwards after a busy week.

Picks up again this week with a few recovery runs, VO2 session on Wednesday, 12 miles on Friday and then a MP 15m run on Sunday. Its all go!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 08, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 08, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Great read LL and I'll send through a donation to your page today. Your training looking good as well.

That's right going Mayo4sam, doing Achill and a 20 miler on Sunday. Tight!

Had a decent week myself.

9miles on Wednesday, mostly at MP pace.
5miles recovery on Thursday.
9 miles on Friday 4x1miles at half MP, 1m recovery between.
5 miles recovery on Saturday
18 miles yesterday. Ran first 5 at good pace, eased off for next 6miles and ran easy with a few others and than pushed on for last 7miles. Averaged 7.40m over the run and legs left it afterwards after a busy week.

Picks up again this week with a few recovery runs, VO2 session on Wednesday, 12 miles on Friday and then a MP 15m run on Sunday. Its all go!

Jeez Bingo  - now I realise why I'm following a novice programme! That's serious running. I'm struggling to get out thrice a week and I've decided I'm running a maximum of 6 miles on Tues, Wed, Thurs then a big one on a Saturday. The big runs are my primary focus at the moment. Doing a 1/2 Marathon on Sunday - going to use it to gauge drinking and food intake (and nerves) but not too concerned about my time to be honest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
Quote from: CD on September 08, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 08, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Great read LL and I'll send through a donation to your page today. Your training looking good as well.

That's right going Mayo4sam, doing Achill and a 20 miler on Sunday. Tight!

Had a decent week myself.

9miles on Wednesday, mostly at MP pace.
5miles recovery on Thursday.
9 miles on Friday 4x1miles at half MP, 1m recovery between.
5 miles recovery on Saturday
18 miles yesterday. Ran first 5 at good pace, eased off for next 6miles and ran easy with a few others and than pushed on for last 7miles. Averaged 7.40m over the run and legs left it afterwards after a busy week.

Picks up again this week with a few recovery runs, VO2 session on Wednesday, 12 miles on Friday and then a MP 15m run on Sunday. Its all go!

Jeez Bingo  - now I realise why I'm following a novice programme! That's serious running. I'm struggling to get out thrice a week and I've decided I'm running a maximum of 6 miles on Tues, Wed, Thurs then a big one on a Saturday. The big runs are my primary focus at the moment. Doing a 1/2 Marathon on Sunday - going to use it to gauge drinking and food intake (and nerves) but not too concerned about my time to be honest.

Nice and flat, you're looking 1.44/1.45 ish
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 08, 2014, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
Quote from: CD on September 08, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 08, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Great read LL and I'll send through a donation to your page today. Your training looking good as well.

That's right going Mayo4sam, doing Achill and a 20 miler on Sunday. Tight!

Had a decent week myself.

9miles on Wednesday, mostly at MP pace.
5miles recovery on Thursday.
9 miles on Friday 4x1miles at half MP, 1m recovery between.
5 miles recovery on Saturday
18 miles yesterday. Ran first 5 at good pace, eased off for next 6miles and ran easy with a few others and than pushed on for last 7miles. Averaged 7.40m over the run and legs left it afterwards after a busy week.

Picks up again this week with a few recovery runs, VO2 session on Wednesday, 12 miles on Friday and then a MP 15m run on Sunday. Its all go!

Jeez Bingo  - now I realise why I'm following a novice programme! That's serious running. I'm struggling to get out thrice a week and I've decided I'm running a maximum of 6 miles on Tues, Wed, Thurs then a big one on a Saturday. The big runs are my primary focus at the moment. Doing a 1/2 Marathon on Sunday - going to use it to gauge drinking and food intake (and nerves) but not too concerned about my time to be honest.

Nice and flat, you're looking 1.44/1.45 ish

That'd be in line with what I'm running MR. Are you doing it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 09, 2014, 06:36:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough
What's that MR? I've no I interest but if it's a trail run thing, Mr Roisin would love something like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2014, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: Rois on September 09, 2014, 06:36:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough
What's that MR? I've no I interest but if it's a trail run thing, Mr Roisin would love something like that.

Yep, there is the Ultras (40 miles) Marathon and Half Marathon think its 15 November I think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 09, 2014, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 08, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
PS would those gels you talk about have prevented my lapses in the last 3 mile?

I think from reading your posts you're probably just not used to those kind of distances, it wont take long for the body to rectify that. The gels wont necessarily fix that. It sounds like its just a matter of being on your feet that long

The gels are good for keeping energy up, probably easier to hold a pace but when your legs go all the gels in the world wont help
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 09, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
I took 2 gels on Sunday during my 20 mile. Have no idea if they helped but I felt grand after 20 miles and probably could have done a few more miles so maybe that was because of the gels.
I took high 5 citrus flavour and thought they were grand,took a berry flavour the week before and they made me feel sick.

I bought this a few weeks ago,it gives you a sample of loads of flavours.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/high5-crc-exclusive-race-pack/rp-prod106300
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 09, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
I use the high5 Isogels, they are watery enough, go down easy and I've had no issues with my stomach
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 09, 2014, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 09, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
I use the high5 Isogels, they are watery enough, go down easy and I've had no issues with my stomach

DO you have to buy online or can you get them in shops? (Dublin?)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 09, 2014, 10:58:40 AM
Should get them in most bike/running shops

I buy them online cheaper
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough

when and what is this Milltown?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough

when and what is this Milltown?

From their Facebook page

Just got the green light for the "Tollymore Trail Marathon" - Saturday 15 November 2014. Ultra (40 miles), Marathon and Half Marathon distances all available. Loop race - one loop for half, two loops for full and three loops for ultra. 619 meters climbing per loop. Entire route within Tollymore forest and all on forest tracks and trails. Full information and online entry will be available in the next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough

when and what is this Milltown?

From their Facebook page

Just got the green light for the "Tollymore Trail Marathon" - Saturday 15 November 2014. Ultra (40 miles), Marathon and Half Marathon distances all available. Loop race - one loop for half, two loops for full and three loops for ultra. 619 meters climbing per loop. Entire route within Tollymore forest and all on forest tracks and trails. Full information and online entry will be available in the next week.

which facebook page?

thanks,
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on September 11, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
Nope CD. Looking at half marathon in Tollymore forrest in November. Looks tough

when and what is this Milltown?

From their Facebook page

Just got the green light for the "Tollymore Trail Marathon" - Saturday 15 November 2014. Ultra (40 miles), Marathon and Half Marathon distances all available. Loop race - one loop for half, two loops for full and three loops for ultra. 619 meters climbing per loop. Entire route within Tollymore forest and all on forest tracks and trails. Full information and online entry will be available in the next week.

which facebook page?

thanks,

26 extreme
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 13, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
For anyone doing the long runs - have you used deep tissue massage?

Went for a second session there on Wednesday evening after 6miles. My legs were starting to feel a bit niggly, heavy etc after weeks of plodding away. The massage lasted 25 minutes, focused on my calves and took years out of my legs - would definitely recommend it as part and parcel of your training. Will go again in three weeks and the week before the marathon I'll get a full body massage to take all the aches out of the shoulders etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: CD on September 13, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
For anyone doing the long runs - have you used deep tissue massage?

Went for a second session there on Wednesday evening after 6miles. My legs were starting to feel a bit niggly, heavy etc after weeks of plodding away. The massage lasted 25 minutes, focused on my calves and took years out of my legs - would definitely recommend it as part and parcel of your training. Will go again in three weeks and the week before the marathon I'll get a full body massage to take all the aches out of the shoulders etc.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTe5JMCxpalOL6uUsj-Xuk2i4kJTEKrmRqLLhvjc5-5Z5WaXXpZ)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 14, 2014, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: CD on September 13, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
For anyone doing the long runs - have you used deep tissue massage?

Went for a second session there on Wednesday evening after 6miles. My legs were starting to feel a bit niggly, heavy etc after weeks of plodding away. The massage lasted 25 minutes, focused on my calves and took years out of my legs - would definitely recommend it as part and parcel of your training. Will go again in three weeks and the week before the marathon I'll get a full body massage to take all the aches out of the shoulders etc.

Had one on Friday, mainly focused on the hammers, glutes and calves...hurt like hell...went out yesterday for a 10k and had no power at all....did my long run this morning, 20.5 miles and I have to say, it made some difference, have any other booked for 10 days before Dublin...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 14, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?

I ran it No 1. Didn't appreciate the 65 min delay but these things happen. I'm sure it had a big impact on most runners.
Ran a comfortable 1.41 sandwiched between 4 miles there and back so managed 20+ miles today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: CD on September 14, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?

I ran it No 1. Didn't appreciate the 65 min delay but these things happen. I'm sure it had a big impact on most runners.
Ran a comfortable 1.41 sandwiched between 4 miles there and back so managed 20+ miles today.

Thats very close to me CD. We could get a good challenge race going lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 14, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: CD on September 14, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?

I ran it No 1. Didn't appreciate the 65 min delay but these things happen. I'm sure it had a big impact on most runners.
Ran a comfortable 1.41 sandwiched between 4 miles there and back so managed 20+ miles today.

Thats very close to me CD. We could get a good challenge race going lol

I have my eye on that Tollymore half you mentioned! If I'm in decent shape after Dublin I may see you there ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: CD on September 14, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: CD on September 14, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?

I ran it No 1. Didn't appreciate the 65 min delay but these things happen. I'm sure it had a big impact on most runners.
Ran a comfortable 1.41 sandwiched between 4 miles there and back so managed 20+ miles today.

Thats very close to me CD. We could get a good challenge race going lol

I have my eye on that Tollymore half you mentioned! If I'm in decent shape after Dublin I may see you there ;)

Yep, think it will be totally different to what we've been doing but I'm sure a bitta craic all the same, I'm off to England with new job so trainers and road running will be all I'm doing for a while
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on September 14, 2014, 10:16:27 PM


I ran it No 1. Didn't appreciate the 65 min delay but these things happen. I'm sure it had a big impact on most runners.
Ran a comfortable 1.41 sandwiched between 4 miles there and back so managed 20+ miles today.
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Great running CD. I was pacing for a mate today so the delay didn't annoy me too much but anyone looking a decent time or PB would have been well pissed off. It Just threw all the preparation up in the air. Didn't seem to annoy the boys at the front right nuff! McGinley must have been thick getting beat by 4 seconds for first place!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 16, 2014, 08:40:30 AM
Quote from: No1 on September 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Anyone running the Belfast Half tomorrow?

LF, what did you think of the Strangford 10k?

My apologies, should have congratulated you sooner - I really enjoyed it, great course and a great evening for it, though when I say I enjoyed it I set out far too quick and really struggled around the mid - 3/4 way mark, picked up on the way home to finish strong enough - not quite the time I was hoping for but still a good minute and a half off my 10km PB. You had a good crowd at it and all seemed to run pretty smoothly for ye's. All in it was a good weekend down there.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 16, 2014, 09:39:16 AM
35.2k last nite, first 23k at snails pace, zone one, then last 12k flat out, tough evening, the first part is so boring
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 19, 2014, 11:34:15 AM
Well lads,

Anyone for the half tomorrow in the Park?

Not doing it myself but the brother is heading up to do it and asking about the best place to park round the park. Anyone know what gate the start/finish is at?

Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
I'm doing it.
Finish is on Furze Road so the nearest gate would be Castleknock Gate or the gate at Mount Sackville.
I'm going to park at Wrights Pub and walk up,it's about a 10 minute walk to the Start from there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 19, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
I'm doing it.
Finish is on Furze Road so the nearest gate would be Castleknock Gate or the gate at Mount Sackville.
I'm going to park at Wrights Pub and walk up,it's about a 10 minute walk to the Start from there.

Much parking round that pub? I'll tell him that so.

The missus is doing it as well but in travelling with a running group.

Hows the training going? Tomorrow should get you back on track after the ten miler, lesson learnt and all that!

I haven't forgot you either and will stick some sponsorship before the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 19, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
I'm doing it.
Finish is on Furze Road so the nearest gate would be Castleknock Gate or the gate at Mount Sackville.
I'm going to park at Wrights Pub and walk up,it's about a 10 minute walk to the Start from there.

Much parking round that pub? I'll tell him that so.

The missus is doing it as well but in travelling with a running group.

Hows the training going? Tomorrow should get you back on track after the ten miler, lesson learnt and all that!

I haven't forgot you either and will stick some sponsorship before the day.

They have a car park across road from pub,should be plenty of parking.
Training going well,hoping for sub 2hr tomorrow.

Edit: Just so there's no confusion the pub is actually called Wrights - The Anglers Rest.
It's down the hill from Mount Sackville entrance.I drive the back roads from Lucan to get there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 19, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
I'm doing it.
Finish is on Furze Road so the nearest gate would be Castleknock Gate or the gate at Mount Sackville.
I'm going to park at Wrights Pub and walk up,it's about a 10 minute walk to the Start from there.

Much parking round that pub? I'll tell him that so.

The missus is doing it as well but in travelling with a running group.

Hows the training going? Tomorrow should get you back on track after the ten miler, lesson learnt and all that!

I haven't forgot you either and will stick some sponsorship before the day.

They have a car park across road from pub,should be plenty of parking.
Training going well,hoping for sub 2hr tomorrow.

Edit: Just so there's no confusion the pub is actually called Wrights - The Anglers Rest.
It's down the hill from Mount Sackville entrance.I drive the back roads from Lucan to get there.

Use the distance from the pub to do your stretching and light jog, get the circulation going and warmed up. Hate arriving at these things late, always puts we bitta pressure on you when not required so plenty time. You sitting with the pacers 1.45/1.50? if so get in earlier enough (not sure of the starting grid) as things can get congested in there.

If I wasn't so bloody busy I'd have ran this. Good luck to all the boarders
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on September 19, 2014, 02:53:54 PM
I've entered Dublin half as my first race and will be heading down regardless for the craic this weekend but very touch and go whether il be fit to run.

hurt the foot running a 6miler on wednesday night, ran it faster than usual and pain started kicking in on the outside of the right foot just underneath the midsole... it was sore to walk on on thursday (was limping), eased a bit today but still feel it a bit. No pain at all when off the feet. After a bit of a google the symptoms sound similar to a common complaint called 'planear tendonitis', although I obviously gotta take self diagnosis by google with a pinch of salt!

Will give it a good RICE treatment tonight but would be nervous of this scuppering the run altogether  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 19, 2014, 03:48:48 PM
I'm doing it, hopefully sub 1.30 and then some but we'll see how it goes, looking forward to it now, must look at the course
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 19, 2014, 03:51:41 PM
Looks like a nice course, the 10 mile mark looks like a great spot to up the pace, that road is quick (obvs until you get back into the park!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 19, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 19, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
I'm doing it.
Finish is on Furze Road so the nearest gate would be Castleknock Gate or the gate at Mount Sackville.
I'm going to park at Wrights Pub and walk up,it's about a 10 minute walk to the Start from there.

Much parking round that pub? I'll tell him that so.

The missus is doing it as well but in travelling with a running group.

Hows the training going? Tomorrow should get you back on track after the ten miler, lesson learnt and all that!

I haven't forgot you either and will stick some sponsorship before the day.

They have a car park across road from pub,should be plenty of parking.
Training going well,hoping for sub 2hr tomorrow.

Edit: Just so there's no confusion the pub is actually called Wrights - The Anglers Rest.
It's down the hill from Mount Sackville entrance.I drive the back roads from Lucan to get there.

Use the distance from the pub to do your stretching and light jog, get the circulation going and warmed up. Hate arriving at these things late, always puts we bitta pressure on you when not required so plenty time. You sitting with the pacers 1.45/1.50? if so get in earlier enough (not sure of the starting grid) as things can get congested in there.

If I wasn't so bloody busy I'd have ran this. Good luck to all the boarders

1:45...Are you taking the piss?Not a hope.

No I'm going to start out half way between 2hr and 1:50 pacers.. See how I'm going and If I am going well push on near the end and If not I'll be happy staying at the pace I am and hopefully stay under 2hrs.
I don't want to make a hames of it like I did at the 10mile and I don't want to do something stupid and put myself out of the Marathon.
I'm really only looking at it as a quick paced training run. If I break 2hrs I'll be delighted.

Best of luck Mayo4Sam.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 19, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
Best of luck to everyone

LL, I'll keep an eye out for you
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 19, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
I'm doing it - done a good bit of training but mad a bit of an error last night - went out with a mate for a couple of beers and ended up being 'a right few'! :( Drinking plenty of water today and early night tonight so hopefully won't come too badly against me. I'm like LL just hoping to break 2 hrs and i'll be happy.

Also, As I'm a total novice to this kind of thing - I take it registration is complete? there are no further things to do - so just pin on number and go for it at 10am? If you were at the start line warmed up for 9:45 that would be ok?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 19, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
Good luck to all the weekend runners

I've picked up a bit of an injury.  :( Woke up with a lot of swelling and pain around the achilles on Monday. Rested all week and used loads of ice and compression socks etc. Was a bit too sore to stretch the calf until yesterday. Ran 2 miles last night on grass with no ill effects. Four days without running is the longest I've gone in a year!

Swelling and pain have gone but I have a really uncomfortable popping sensation in low calf/achilles. Had it for a few weeks but now it's sore and I'm sure it's linked to the injury on Monday. 5 1/2 weeks to Dublin marathon - going to have to nurse myself to the start line. Any advice on the popping much appreciated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 19, 2014, 06:39:01 PM
Quote from: CD on September 19, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
Good luck to all the weekend runners

I've picked up a bit of an injury.  :( Woke up with a lot of swelling and pain around the achilles on Monday. Rested all week and used loads of ice and compression socks etc. Was a bit too sore to stretch the calf until yesterday. Ran 2 miles last night on grass with no ill effects. Four days without running is the longest I've gone in a year!

Swelling and pain have gone but I have a really uncomfortable popping sensation in low calf/achilles. Had it for a few weeks but now it's sore and I'm sure it's linked to the injury on Monday. 5 1/2 weeks to Dublin marathon - going to have to nurse myself to the start line. Any advice on the popping much appreciated!

I have this all of the time (minus the swelling). I saw exercises on youtube whereby you stand on the very edge of a step and stretch it to its full extent and then raise yourself up and down slowly. If this goes well you can hold weights to make it stronger. It really helped me although it has never fully gone away.

Best of luck with it.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: CD on September 19, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
Good luck to all the weekend runners

I've picked up a bit of an injury.  :( Woke up with a lot of swelling and pain around the achilles on Monday. Rested all week and used loads of ice and compression socks etc. Was a bit too sore to stretch the calf until yesterday. Ran 2 miles last night on grass with no ill effects. Four days without running is the longest I've gone in a year!

Swelling and pain have gone but I have a really uncomfortable popping sensation in low calf/achilles. Had it for a few weeks but now it's sore and I'm sure it's linked to the injury on Monday. 5 1/2 weeks to Dublin marathon - going to have to nurse myself to the start line. Any advice on the popping much appreciated!

Yes plenty stretching and you've nearly done the whole programme and plenty miles done this year. You'll be grand on the day CD
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
Ice it and ice it lots. When you get problems down there very hard to get rid of inflammation due to lack of blood flow so icing key.

Stretch the calves loads.

Don't know why it would be popping but see a physio!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 19, 2014, 08:05:55 PM
Cheers for the advice lads - the ice is on as we speak - really seems to help. Have a physio appointment next week - I was boasting to him about how straightforward and injury free I've been just last week at a massage! Jinxed it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 20, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
How did everyone get on?

I was pleased with my run - I had aimed for 1:55 then I felt lousy on Friday and thought I wouldn't be fit to run but got up this morning and felt a good bit better so went and readjusted my expectation to 2:00.

Finished up with 1:48 - over the moon as it's my first real race bar one 6 years ago over 5mile.

LL how did you go? I saw your leaflet in the goody bag - still haven't donated but I will by the end of the week (pay day coming) great cause!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 20, 2014, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 20, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
How did everyone get on?

I was pleased with my run - I had aimed for 1:55 then I felt lousy on Friday and thought I wouldn't be fit to run but got up this morning and felt a good bit better so went and readjusted my expectation to 2:00.

Finished up with 1:48 - over the moon as it's my first real race bar one 6 years ago over 5mile.

LL how did you go? I saw your leaflet in the goody bag - still haven't donated but I will by the end of the week (pay day coming) great cause!
Brilliant!  That's a fantastic time, especially when your expectations were for a good bit slower. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 20, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 20, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
How did everyone get on?

I was pleased with my run - I had aimed for 1:55 then I felt lousy on Friday and thought I wouldn't be fit to run but got up this morning and felt a good bit better so went and readjusted my expectation to 2:00.

Finished up with 1:48 - over the moon as it's my first real race bar one 6 years ago over 5mile.

LL how did you go? I saw your leaflet in the goody bag - still haven't donated but I will by the end of the week (pay day coming) great cause!
Wow fantastic time.
Good and sort of but not really that bad for me today. Was going grand until mile 10 was on for about 1:54ish finish based on my average pace but just after passing 10 mile marker felt a twinge in my leg. Stopped for a minute to stretch to see would it make any difference but it didn't so I was left wondering should I push on or jog to finish and not do further damage.
I decided on the latter and came in 2:01 which is still a new PB.
Not really all that disappointed though to be honest as I'm glad I took the sensible (I think) option as I was nervous at that stage of doing something that would mess up my Marathon.
Found pace very comfortable and would have finished fairly well if I hadn't felt that twinge.
It was probably nothing and I feel grand now but thats the option I took at 10miles.
I didn't know that leaflet would be in it,was a nice surprise.

Bingo - Saw a good few Blaney Rockets bibs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 21, 2014, 04:44:45 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 20, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 20, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
How did everyone get on?

I was pleased with my run - I had aimed for 1:55 then I felt lousy on Friday and thought I wouldn't be fit to run but got up this morning and felt a good bit better so went and readjusted my expectation to 2:00.

Finished up with 1:48 - over the moon as it's my first real race bar one 6 years ago over 5mile.

LL how did you go? I saw your leaflet in the goody bag - still haven't donated but I will by the end of the week (pay day coming) great cause!
Wow fantastic time.
Good and sort of but not really that bad for me today. Was going grand until mile 10 was on for about 1:54ish finish based on my average pace but just after passing 10 mile marker felt a twinge in my leg. Stopped for a minute to stretch to see would it make any difference but it didn't so I was left wondering should I push on or jog to finish and not do further damage.
I decided on the latter and came in 2:01 which is still a new PB.
Not really all that disappointed though to be honest as I'm glad I took the sensible (I think) option as I was nervous at that stage of doing something that would mess up my Marathon.
Found pace very comfortable and would have finished fairly well if I hadn't felt that twinge.
It was probably nothing and I feel grand now but thats the option I took at 10miles.
I didn't know that leaflet would be in it,was a nice surprise.

Bingo - Saw a good few Blaney Rockets bibs
I had the same problem last weekend. Went out for 13 miles and got an odd ping in the ankle after 6 miles. Walked home and have rested the week and it feels good now. Was worried about not following the marathon plan for the week but it might have done more damage. Happy enough if I get up to 20 miles before the marathon and then taper out the rest. Getting v close now though. Nerves are starting!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 22, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 20, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
Wow fantastic time.
Good and sort of but not really that bad for me today. Was going grand until mile 10 was on for about 1:54ish finish based on my average pace but just after passing 10 mile marker felt a twinge in my leg. Stopped for a minute to stretch to see would it make any difference but it didn't so I was left wondering should I push on or jog to finish and not do further damage.
I decided on the latter and came in 2:01 which is still a new PB.
Not really all that disappointed though to be honest as I'm glad I took the sensible (I think) option as I was nervous at that stage of doing something that would mess up my Marathon.
Found pace very comfortable and would have finished fairly well if I hadn't felt that twinge.
It was probably nothing and I feel grand now but thats the option I took at 10miles.
I didn't know that leaflet would be in it,was a nice surprise.

Bingo - Saw a good few Blaney Rockets bibs

Thanks - Glad to hear you PB'd it and sure your pace of for a 1.54 should leave in you in for a good marathon time. Think I'm going to leave a marathon for another while as Half is far enough for me at the min!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on September 22, 2014, 11:22:49 AM
Well that was my first race event to enter so coming from running solo in the evenings it was a real eye opener, great experience!

The congestion at the start was interesting, started out much slower than I expected! Then theres lots of weaving in and out, the path around Phoenix park got quite narrow at times so there was plenty of running on the grass verges.

Lined up with a lot of trepidation about the foot, had it well iced the night before and the weight kept off it but it was obviously nothing too serious as it mostly held up all the way.

Didnt know the races had pacesetters with flags on the back, very handy!! Slowly manoeuvred in with the 1hr 50m trio, very sound with vocal encouragement and carrying extra water bottles to pass out, clearly that pace is not a bother to them!

Felt good by ~7 mile mark and kicked on ahead. Pacing on the GPS on the mobile was not worth a shite and it cut in and out after the halfway mark, and in between my 80s power ballads was giving me garbage feedback. By the 12 mile mark I was feeling very stupid for increasing the pace and going up the incline on the final leg was horrible, wasn't far ahead of the 1:50 pacesetters by then. Some woman on the sideline shouts out "Keep going, ye only have 300m to go!"  ;D so tried to open up for home.. only turns out she was feeding me porkies for it was def at least a km  ;D. Gassed myself out then and weaved over to the side for a quick retch like a drunk outside a kebab house, the 1h50 train cruised by, so went into a (relative) sprint and caught them at the line for a chip time of 1h 49m.

I then augmented my fatigue with an almighty night on the beer... roll on the marathon!!

Well done to WT4E and Laoislad also!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 22, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
The brother in law said the 2hr pacer he followed came in at 2:04, if thats true then thats shocking, how hard is it to pace for two hours and thats a long way out.

Not a great race for me, heart rate was very high all through, well over 180 for the whole race, dont know whats wrong, came in at 1:33:42, which is a good bit off the sub 1:30 I was hoping for. Need to look at my sleeping I think.

Stupidly went and played a gaa match yesterday, managed to hurt my knee, too sore to run and tear the ligaments in my shoulder again. Maybe a weeks rest is what I need!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 22, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 22, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
The brother in law said the 2hr pacer he followed came in at 2:04, if thats true then thats shocking, how hard is it to pace for two hours and thats a long way out.

Not a great race for me, heart rate was very high all through, well over 180 for the whole race, dont know whats wrong, came in at 1:33:42, which is a good bit off the sub 1:30 I was hoping for. Need to look at my sleeping I think.

Stupidly went and played a gaa match yesterday, managed to hurt my knee, too sore to run and tear the ligaments in my shoulder again. Maybe a weeks rest is what I need!

Really? That's poor if true. I haven't seen it mentioned on any other forum though.I'm on a beginners forum on boards.ie and most of the posters would be at the 2hr for half level and no one has posted that yet.
Maybe he started out ahead of the 2hr pacer and fell back to meet him,that would bring him over 2hrs wouldn't it?

Great time all the same Mayo as was yours whiskeysteve.
I'm still happy with how I went despite deliberately slowing with 3 miles to go,had the weekend to think about it and I'm happy I made the right decision.

Only 35 days to go to the big day! :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on September 22, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
QuoteOnly 35 days to go to the big day! :-\

And then your evening's and weekends are yours.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on September 22, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 22, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
The brother in law said the 2hr pacer he followed came in at 2:04, if thats true then thats shocking, how hard is it to pace for two hours and thats a long way out.

Not a great race for me, heart rate was very high all through, well over 180 for the whole race, dont know whats wrong, came in at 1:33:42, which is a good bit off the sub 1:30 I was hoping for. Need to look at my sleeping I think.

Stupidly went and played a gaa match yesterday, managed to hurt my knee, too sore to run and tear the ligaments in my shoulder again. Maybe a weeks rest is what I need!

Has he checked his chip time? Sounds like he thinks he got 2:04 as that's what the finish line clock would of said for the 2 hour pacers coming home! There's adjustment needed for starting in the second wave!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on September 22, 2014, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 22, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
The brother in law said the 2hr pacer he followed came in at 2:04, if thats true then thats shocking, how hard is it to pace for two hours and thats a long way out.

I wonder if he means the clock time and not chip time? When I came in the clock said 1:55 or so and I was thinking the 1:50 pacesetters had somehow messed up too, but they were obviously timing from the point they crossed the starting line (~6mins after the first waves of athletes set off). Over 8000 people taking part I think I read so obviously a lot of congestion delaying the bulk of the runners getting through the starting gate.

Edit: WT4E said it first! I reckon he may be on 1:58 or thereabouts if it said 2:04 on the clock
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 22, 2014, 07:21:31 PM
Will it be the same pacers for the full marathon ? Our plan is to run with the 3.30 person and see if we have any extra for the last two miles. Was in Dublin for the weekend and the buzz around Phoenix Park was excellent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 22, 2014, 08:03:58 PM
Brilliant running at the weekend lads!

Getting nervous enough about the Marathon now. Just had a week of no running at all and plenty of stretching to try to reduce the swelling in my ankle. Going to do 6 miles tomorrow and see if it's going to be up to it! Sore still but I think I can run on it if I'm smart!

A big week ahead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 24, 2014, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: CD on September 22, 2014, 08:03:58 PM
Brilliant running at the weekend lads!

Getting nervous enough about the Marathon now. Just had a week of no running at all and plenty of stretching to try to reduce the swelling in my ankle. Going to do 6 miles tomorrow and see if it's going to be up to it! Sore still but I think I can run on it if I'm smart!

A big week ahead.

Ran 5.5 miles this evening. Achilles sore every step of the way. 32 days to the marathon. Don't feel confident about making it. Apt with physio on Friday will decide whether or not I'll book a hotel this weekend! Gutted - was so well prepared. :'(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 25, 2014, 03:07:27 PM
Thats a tough break CD,hope you can get it sorted, being off training all week with a flu/ chest infection, tried a few miles on Tuesday, got to three and had to walk home....off to Paris with the missus to run a 16k on Sunday around Paris...looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2014, 03:10:42 PM
CD I can tell you through bad experiences that the achilles is a nasty injury however unless you're far down the road you could well be ok. A physio will tell you I guess.

Have you got a gym membership or a bike? I would suggest you keep very active and substitute your runs for another form of exercise. Biking or cross training are non impact so you can keep the fitness up.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on September 25, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
The non-impact training sounds good for the achilles.

Lads , how do ye feel after running a Marathon? I did my first one recently and felt fcuked after it and not in a good way. I felt really drained and sh!tty, and I actually caught a cold/flu for about a week. I don't want to discourage anyone from doing it but just wondering if anyone's experienced this.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 25, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
That's a shame CD. Hopefully you might still make it.
I have a training session with Sean Hehir on Saturday morning.
Nearly more nervous about it than doing the Marathon.!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 27, 2014, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 25, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
That's a shame CD. Hopefully you might still make it.
I have a training session with Sean Hehir on Saturday morning.
Nearly more nervous about it than doing the Marathon.!

Hope the training session went well and the nerves weren't too much of a factor ;)

Got a bit of good news this morning - no achilles tear as originally suspected - just badly inflamed. Had a really good session with the physio and it already feels better. Hoping to be able to attempt a few miles next Saturday and the marathon is still on!

Happy man  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 27, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
20 this morning, perfect day for it. Sooner this tapering business starts, the better! The links to the stretching exercises that someone posted a few pages back are needed more and more in these last four weeks. I would strongly recommend a few of the yoga stretches, especially the downward facing dog- good for old boys like myself. Is there a long term weather forecast for the 27th October?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: CD on September 27, 2014, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 25, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
That's a shame CD. Hopefully you might still make it.
I have a training session with Sean Hehir on Saturday morning.
Nearly more nervous about it than doing the Marathon.!

Hope the training session went well and the nerves weren't too much of a factor ;)

Got a bit of good news this morning - no achilles tear as originally suspected - just badly inflamed. Had a really good session with the physio and it already feels better. Hoping to be able to attempt a few miles next Saturday and the marathon is still on!

Happy man  ;D

Brilliant news, all in the head CD, head down and crack on you'll get pulled along regardless and just finish it, still not fussed myself on the Marathon, takes a lot of effort leading up to it with the worry of injury always fecking looming!! Fair fecks to all doing it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 27, 2014, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: CD on September 27, 2014, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 25, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
That's a shame CD. Hopefully you might still make it.
I have a training session with Sean Hehir on Saturday morning.
Nearly more nervous about it than doing the Marathon.!

Hope the training session went well and the nerves weren't too much of a factor ;)

Got a bit of good news this morning - no achilles tear as originally suspected - just badly inflamed. Had a really good session with the physio and it already feels better. Hoping to be able to attempt a few miles next Saturday and the marathon is still on!

Happy man  ;D

That's great man,so marathon back on?

Training session went well.Were fairly put through our paces alright.
Had a brilliant question and answer session afterwards which I found very helpful.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 28, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
Marathon World Record broken in Berlin today by Dennis Kimetto in a time of 2:02:57  :o
Something for me to aim for in 4 weeks time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 29, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
That's a good time for a half marathon! Ridiculous to be able to run that fast for 26.2 miles!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 29, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
20 miles in the bag yesterday. Largely felt spot on going round bar the last mile which was tight going. Averaged 7.40 per mile, so happy at that.

Knee has been a bit troublesome going downhill but nothing the roller won't sort out.

I believe 1st October is the registration cut off for anyone not signed in yet.

LL - You going to share some of the tips  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 29, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 29, 2014, 09:48:16 AM
20 miles in the bag yesterday. Largely felt spot on going round bar the last mile which was tight going. Averaged 7.40 per mile, so happy at that.

Knee has been a bit troublesome going downhill but nothing the roller won't sort out.

I believe 1st October is the registration cut off for anyone not signed in yet.

LL - You going to share some of the tips  :)
Sure it was only for novices like me... An experienced athlete like you wouldn't need any tips!
19 miles done myself yesterday in 3 hours.
I'm thinking I'll go with the 4:10 pacers on the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 30, 2014, 10:44:53 PM

Remind me. How does one update the kilometres ran chart? I ve 2 months to do.

Reasonably happy with preparations for Dublin. Did 22 miles yesterday and a recovery 4 this evening.
Another 20 and I should be ok.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on September 30, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Been suffering with injuries all year but at the moment whenever I run both achilles are in pain.ballinman are you about on Monday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2014, 07:11:32 AM
Have been working away from home during week (and for next six months) but managing to get nearly 3 miles most mornings. Weather has been very kind, have been getting stronger and quicker each day. Gearing up for the Tollymore run in November.

miss the craic at the gym, or lets say the distractions  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 01, 2014, 08:01:35 PM
where did my totals for June/July go?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 02, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 01, 2014, 08:01:35 PM
where did my totals for June/July go?

Someone copied forward the wrong file at one stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 04, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
 :(

After 4 physio sessions and 3 full weeks of rest I headed out this morning to do a few essential miles if I'm to make it to the start of the Dublin marathon. I stretched my calves like crazy and even took a few pain killers to negate the pain in my achilles. It felt fine for the past few days and I've been itching to run on it since Wednesday, but I took my physio's advice, and continued to rest and ice it. Less than 1 mile in the pain started - I ran on the Mary Peter's track to ensure a softer and more even surface. Struggled on for another 6 miles thinking I'd beat it but was forced to stop and limp back to the car. I've never stopped during a sport in my life - never went off injured during football or gaelic never cut a run. That's how I know this is serious! 3 weeks to go. Not sure it's going to happen.Gutted :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 05, 2014, 05:33:03 PM
That's a balls CD. Hope it works out for you. If not there's always next year.

I did my final long run today. 20.3 miles. Tried to take in some of the Marathon route.
Went well enough but took it nice and handy. I've settled on high 5 orange flavour gels. There the only ones that don't make me feel like vomiting.

3 weeks of handy enough running now. I think the longest will only be 12 miles between now and Marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 05, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 05, 2014, 05:33:03 PM
That's a balls CD. Hope it works out for you. If not there's always next year.

I did my final long run today. 20.3 miles. Tried to take in some of the Marathon route.
Went well enough but took it nice and handy. I've settled on high 5 orange flavour gels. There the only ones that don't make me feel like vomiting.

3 weeks of handy enough running now. I think the longest will only be 12 miles between now and Marathon.

Got my last long run done yesterday. 20 miles.

It wasn t planned because I had just done 22 on Monday. Last few miles were grim but I think I might have got away with it and I m into the taper now. Like you longest will be about 12 with a VO2 run 10 days before marathon.

What about distances on other runs though? some 7/8 miles and some 4/5s?

As regards gels, I ve been using these babies 'ZipVit Sport ZV7C Caffeine Energy Gel - 24 x 60ml'. Now, I know a lot of people find gels hard to take. I was fortunate in that I could stomach pretty much anything but these are by far the easiest, I ve found. €58 for 24 isn t cheap though. Get us through a few marathons though ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.

Wow. Quite an improvement. Could you elaborate on your tempo runs? Is it like my recovery runs i.e. hr below 70% or something like that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 05, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.

Wow. Quite an improvement. Could you elaborate on your tempo runs? Is it like my recovery runs i.e. hr below 70% or something like that?
Once this Marathon is over I plan on spending the winter doing these intervals and tempo runs for a 10k in Mount Juillet in February.
I want to get down to mid 40's for a 10k.
I actually enjoy the interval runs. I've done one or two for Marathon but will really get into them over the Winter.
BTW a tempo run as I understand is a run where you start off at an good pace and build up to a fast pace about midway through the run then you start slowing down again for the last part of the run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2014, 10:44:30 PM
A tempo run is what's called lactate threshold training. In heart rate terms it's 80-85 %...

Twenty to thirty minutes should do it.

The key to getting the best out of them is to do them at the right pace. Too fast and they're not as beneficial. "Comfortably hard" is the term they use. If you do them right they will improve you massively.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Let the tapering begin! 10k race this Sunday in Castlebar

Training has been all over the place, did 36k last Saturday week and f**k all since. Becoming single again has not had a good influence on my training.

Once I get this outta the way though it's back to the bike for next year!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Let the tapering begin! 10k race this Sunday in Castlebar

Training has been all over the place, did 36k last Saturday week and f**k all since. Becoming single again has not had a good influence on my training.

Once I get this outta the way though it's back to the bike for next year!
You'll be sound chief, some serious runs in the tank.
Mighty stuff by everyone here, serious progress. Haven't been looking at this thread because it was killing me being off injured again. Getting back into it the last last few,weeks. Just want to get a solid base of training down for a few months injury free before I start looking at a more serious program.

Doing the beer mile tonight in Russell square in London with the Uni club over here. at 7. Chug a can...400m....then another can..400m x 4 times in total. Should be interesting, currently have 4 cans warming on the desk here. Not puking is the goal....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Ditto BM - killing me as have had a stinking few months running. That thing you put on twitter with your man Brad Neal looked interesting. Interesting enough subject.

Not long to the marathon now...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Ditto BM - killing me as have had a stinking few months running. That thing you put on twitter with your man Brad Neal looked interesting. Interesting enough subject.

Not long to the marathon now...
Aye, absolute sickner. Just put my head in the sand re running really last few months!
Yep, was class stuff yesterday. Most of the time it's inhibition rather than weakness that is causing gluteal inactivity. ie...lower back,smaller muscles firing before your glutes. Obviously strength is an issue, (takes 9 weeks roughly remember to make any significant strength gains) which needs to be addressed.
He is doing a PHd on patellar femoral pain in runners(runners knee), new research suggests that strengthening is likely a waist of time because athlete will return to previous style of running once pain free....and problem could rare it's head down the line. Treatment should focus on running technique to have long term affect!
Fascinating stuff each day to be honest!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2014, 03:14:29 PM
Happy days. I find that kind of stuff very interesting and having done masses of strength stuff I don't disagree with that! Those boys know their stuff.

I wouldn't mind getting the running technique sorted with those boys though it would be costly and I don't have much surplus money at the minute!

I would be like yourself. I barely look at running results any more which is unlike me but thankfully I've been able to get out this last few weeks so getting the buzz back again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 03:19:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2014, 03:14:29 PM
Happy days. I find that kind of stuff very interesting and having done masses of strength stuff I don't disagree with that! Those boys know their stuff.

I wouldn't mind getting the running technique sorted with those boys though it would be costly and I don't have much surplus money at the minute!

I would be like yourself. I barely look at running results any more which is unlike me but thankfully I've been able to get out this last few weeks so getting the buzz back again.
Yep, they are on the ball. Haven't looked at how much the 2 day course is yet, said they run it out of canary wharf, doubt it's cheap. Hope to get down to it before I'm back across the water. Absolutely the same, watched the last 20 minutes of the Berlin marathon when I knew the record was on though! London is an absolute dose for long runs, traffic and pedestrians have me driven spare. Going to stick to the track and shorter stuff over the winter all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2014, 03:29:56 PM
While you lads are in here!

Less than 3 weeks to DCM, taper is the name of the game but I've an itch to get a 20 mile run in this Saturday, 16 days out from the day itself, which I think would be fine for recovery as I've basically run all year, can't really call missing a week without running bar one or two after racing. So the legs are well used to running.

The head is saying Taper but I'd be happier with another 20 in the legs. Would compensate by cutting a mile or two off during the week.

My plan says to do a fast 10km on Saturday and 16 very easy Sunday. Speed is no bother as did a very fast 5miles last sunday after doing 17miles on Saturday. I'd be happy giving the 10km a miss and rolling into a longer run on Saturday and a nice 3/4 very easy recovery on Sunday which is what I have been doing.

Someone put me at ease  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
90m 10mile  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2014, 03:39:42 PM
Are you following a programme Bingo? Have you missed a long run or two to cause you concern? I would say it shouldn't do you too much harm to be honest so I would say go for it and if you're feeling tired or whatever then there is no harm in cutting it short.

Caveat BM knows marathons better than me so listen to him first!

Good man muppet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
Key to the taper for me is
1.Reduce mileage
2.Maintain frequency (Number of days running per week)
3.Increase/Maintain intensity (marathon pace miles)

A 2 week taper is plenty for a marathon, different story for an Ultra and Ironman where you need a bit longer. So i would cut mileage by 25% 2 weeks out and then by another 25% 1 week out.

Frequency is important because if you have a desk job ect, a cut in the days that your are running, you'll be up the walls with all the extra energy that you are used to burning. Different story if you have a labour intensive job...

Maintain/Increasing intensity is the biggy. Good to "dial" into your predicted marathon pace to give your legs a heads up as what to expect and keep clued in. Few marathon paced miles thrown in....2 miles easy...1 mile marathon pace, 1 mile easy...1 mile marathon pace..2 miles easy eg for a session the week before race, Tues/Wed before monday

I'd go with what the plan says, you have the mileage done. You have built up the strength endurance, once more long run isn't going to matter a jot now. The 10km on Saturday at race pace and then the 16 easy on Sunday is to get you running depleted.It's more race specific, which you should focus on getting closer.

Feel free to totally ignore me by the way!! haha

Fair play muppet, quality!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2014, 03:56:05 PM
How long a Marathon pace run should one be doing? Or how long would be too long?l
I've a 12 mile on Sunday would that be too long at MP?
Was gonna do a park run Saturday. Good idea or not?
12 probably would be a bit too long now...I'm sure Sean Hehir and those lads smash out a 12 mile MP in middle of a 16 the week before but I would say a 3 mile easy 6 MP and then 3 easy would be sound for yourself.

You can mix it up too., could try this...start at MP for for 3 miles to get used to controlling your MP when you are feeling fresh, then drop back for 3...then 3 at MP and finish with 3 easy then...tough session to control but you'll be v confident after of knowing your MP.

I wouldn't go flat out on Saturday, risk of injury ect not worth it, just do it for bit of a laugh, hard not to be competitive though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
Thanks BM.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
Imtommygun, was following the P&D 12 week 55mile programme but did change a bit this year with more MP miles and less speed work.

I missed one 20 mile run but did do a 19 instead  :P Ran out of time that morning rather than legs. I had 20x 2 and a 21 mile last year. This year I'd have 20 and 19.

Cheers BM, i'll build that into the next few weeks and its much as the P&D plane outlines, same days running rather than cutting out days as some plans do. I'll likely wait till Friday and make a call. 4 miles recovery tonight and then 8 miles in the morning.

I haven't started looking at the weather forecast yet, I swear  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Beer mile in 7.34.
Didn't puke...horrendously hard!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 09, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Beer mile in 7.34.
Didn't puke...horrendously hard!

Fair play to ya for completing it without puking. The video of the guy doing it under 5 mins (the world record) was just ridiculous. What size are the cans of beer? What are the tips for getting it down quick? I know a guy who is mad to have a crack at it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 09, 2014, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 09, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Beer mile in 7.34.
Didn't puke...horrendously hard!

Fair play to ya for completing it without puking. The video of the guy doing it under 5 mins (the world record) was just ridiculous. What size are the cans of beer? What are the tips for getting it down quick? I know a guy who is mad to have a crack at it.
Watched that on youtube yesterday, unreal. He had the baby size cans though....had to do with with those 440ml ones they have over here last night. There were about 50 in the race, I'm terrible at downing stuff so lost loads of time drinking. Tried to slow down about a 50m from the end of each lap to control the breathing so would be able to drink.Came 3rd over all, there was a guy in a lion suit ahead of me for the first 2 laps and was like fcuk this shit, not getting beaten by a lad in fancy dress!...
In the words of Stand By Me the movie, it was a total barf-o-rama....lads fulling puking and running at the same time, hilarious.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2014, 11:49:23 AM
Pollock did it in 5:40 or something like that (might even have been 5:20).

They did it up here on the local track but weren't supposed to be on it. A few boys put the photos on facebook and they were friends with some officials. Next thing a comment from officials - "guys when was this". Photos quickly went down!

Can't be good for you...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 09, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.

Wow. Quite an improvement. Could you elaborate on your tempo runs? Is it like my recovery runs i.e. hr below 70% or something like that?

Muppet I can't add much more than tommygunn has. Don't know anything about HR training but my tempo runs are 5 miles long, first mile warm up pace then 3 miles at about 85% of my maximum effort and then the last mile as a warm down.  I run 5/6 days a week and mileage depends on whatever race is coming up, never been further than a half marathon and don't intend going any further!

To tell you the truth I changed my diet (cutting out a lot of carbs) and lost over 2 stone in the 2 years and the lighter I got the faster I got. No great science to it but it's worked so far for me. I still like the pints and the odd cigarette so there is probably room for some more improvement!!

10k race at the end of November in Belfast and if I manage sub 43 there I might well give it all up and go back to the good bad old days!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 10, 2014, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: No1 on October 09, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.

Wow. Quite an improvement. Could you elaborate on your tempo runs? Is it like my recovery runs i.e. hr below 70% or something like that?

Muppet I can't add much more than tommygunn has. Don't know anything about HR training but my tempo runs are 5 miles long, first mile warm up pace then 3 miles at about 85% of my maximum effort and then the last mile as a warm down.  I run 5/6 days a week and mileage depends on whatever race is coming up, never been further than a half marathon and don't intend going any further!

To tell you the truth I changed my diet (cutting out a lot of carbs) and lost over 2 stone in the 2 years and the lighter I got the faster I got. No great science to it but it's worked so far for me. I still like the pints and the odd cigarette so there is probably room for some more improvement!!

10k race at the end of November in Belfast and if I manage sub 43 there I might well give it all up and go back to the good bad old days!!

Good man cheers. I might give that a try. Just did a comfortable 5 mile, starting slow and finishing quick (for me).

I like the sound of that beer mile though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 10, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Beer mile Gadderin??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on October 10, 2014, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 09, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 05, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 02, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
the wobbler your goals are 10k sub 50 mins and then 10k sub 44 mins.

I will gladly pay you for any advice as to how to knock 6 mins off a 10k time!

Not as smart as thewobbler but for what it's worth my first 10k was 56 mins and I thought I was close to death after that! My PB 2 years later was 43 odds, and the reason for that was tempo runs once a week and interval training once every two weeks. f**king horrible when you are doing them but the tempo runs sort you out big style. By no means am I an expert but that worked for me.

Wow. Quite an improvement. Could you elaborate on your tempo runs? Is it like my recovery runs i.e. hr below 70% or something like that?

Muppet I can't add much more than tommygunn has. Don't know anything about HR training but my tempo runs are 5 miles long, first mile warm up pace then 3 miles at about 85% of my maximum effort and then the last mile as a warm down.  I run 5/6 days a week and mileage depends on whatever race is coming up, never been further than a half marathon and don't intend going any further!

To tell you the truth I changed my diet (cutting out a lot of carbs) and lost over 2 stone in the 2 years and the lighter I got the faster I got. No great science to it but it's worked so far for me. I still like the pints and the odd cigarette so there is probably room for some more improvement!!

10k race at the end of November in Belfast and if I manage sub 43 there I might well give it all up and go back to the good bad old days!!

Take that count fella with you a bit more as he's slowing up badly at the 5 asides on a Monday night.

I try to get out for a run once a week, want to up the distances rather than worry about the times just now.

last run was just shy of 8 miles in about 72 minutes, feckin hill on the home straight kills me, is once a week enough now with the nights closing in?
Hate gyms and thread mills with a passion!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 10, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 10, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Beer mile Gadderin??

There is an idea!

We could do it all dressed as Cardinals, in honour of Tony Fearon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on October 10, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
Can I just say ye all sicken my hole?

Thanks.


Obviously fair play to ye.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 10, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 10, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Beer mile Gadderin??

There is an idea!

We could do it all dressed as Cardinals, in honour of Tony Fearon.

How about just a beer Gadderin and f**k the mile run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on October 10, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 10, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 10, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Beer mile Gadderin??

There is an idea!

We could do it all dressed as Cardinals, in honour of Tony Fearon.

AZ turns up with the wrong idea completely.

(http://cdn9.staztic.com/app/a/3266/3266222/arizona-cardinals-wallpapers-1000001-2-s-307x512.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 10, 2014, 09:45:54 PM
QuoteTake that count fella with you a bit more as he's slowing up badly at the 5 asides on a Monday night.

You can take a horse to water and all that!!!  As an old classmate and fellow sub keeper for umpteen years I can't be too hard on him!

I'd say that's an agricultural enough Monday night 5 a side!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 10, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 10, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 10, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Beer mile Gadderin??

There is an idea!

We could do it all dressed as Cardinals, in honour of Tony Fearon.

AZ turns up with the wrong idea completely.

(http://cdn9.staztic.com/app/a/3266/3266222/arizona-cardinals-wallpapers-1000001-2-s-307x512.jpg)

That would be pretty cool but it would be hard to knock back cans quickly with that helmet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 13, 2014, 10:47:27 AM
This day two weeks lads, we'll be bombing along. The calm before the storm!!

Finally into taper. Was undecided about what to do at weekend right up until Saturday am but after a busy week, I just didn't feel the energy levels where high so did a decent 10miles on Saturday morning with a good part of it at a 7.10pace and then yesterday did 16miles very easy with 5 lads from the club who are for the marathon as well.

Great relaxing run on a glorious sunday morning, we even walked behind a heard of cows at one stage. Myself and another lad pushed on for the last 3 miles.

So winding down now.

Roll on the 27th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 13, 2014, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 13, 2014, 10:47:27 AM
This day two weeks lads, we'll be bombing along. The calm before the storm!!

Finally into taper. Was undecided about what to do at weekend right up until Saturday am but after a busy week, I just didn't feel the energy levels where high so did a decent 10miles on Saturday morning with a good part of it at a 7.10pace and then yesterday did 16miles very easy with 5 lads from the club who are for the marathon as well.

Great relaxing run on a glorious sunday morning, we even walked behind a heard of cows at one stage. Myself and another lad pushed on for the last 3 miles.

So winding down now.

Roll on the 27th.

Back doing a small bit myself and have to say Sunday morning was just lovely when I was out for a run. Glorious is the word.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 13, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 13, 2014, 10:47:27 AM
This day two weeks lads, we'll be bombing along. The calm before the storm!!

Finally into taper. Was undecided about what to do at weekend right up until Saturday am but after a busy week, I just didn't feel the energy levels where high so did a decent 10miles on Saturday morning with a good part of it at a 7.10pace and then yesterday did 16miles very easy with 5 lads from the club who are for the marathon as well.

Great relaxing run on a glorious sunday morning, we even walked behind a heard of cows at one stage. Myself and another lad pushed on for the last 3 miles.

So winding down now.

Roll on the 27th.

Had a bit of a mare on Sunday when I went out to do 13 with the gang and had to pull up after 10. I felt stomached from the start and legs were weak. Wanted to go home after 3 miles and it was torture until got a sharp pain in my foot at mile 10 and walked home.
I know I eat a bit late and had a touch of a head cold lately but couldn t figure the state of my legs and lower back. I d done 2X20 and a 22 and found them ok.
Now I ve got another injury to worry about. When my big toe strikes I get pain where the metatarsal/ankle meet. Rest would appear to be all I can do now?
Just remembered the missus convinced me to do a few strength and conditioning sessions last 10 days. Think that was not a good idea :'(
   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 13, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 13, 2014, 10:47:27 AM
This day two weeks lads, we'll be bombing along. The calm before the storm!!

Finally into taper. Was undecided about what to do at weekend right up until Saturday am but after a busy week, I just didn't feel the energy levels where high so did a decent 10miles on Saturday morning with a good part of it at a 7.10pace and then yesterday did 16miles very easy with 5 lads from the club who are for the marathon as well.

Great relaxing run on a glorious sunday morning, we even walked behind a heard of cows at one stage. Myself and another lad pushed on for the last 3 miles.

So winding down now.

Roll on the 27th.

Had a bit of a mare on Sunday when I went out to do 13 with the gang and had to pull up after 10. I felt stomached from the start and legs were weak. Wanted to go home after 3 miles and it was torture until got a sharp pain in my foot at mile 10 and walked home.
I know I eat a bit late and had a touch of a head cold lately but couldn t figure the state of my legs and lower back. I d done 2X20 and a 22 and found them ok.
Now I ve got another injury to worry about. When my big toe strikes I get pain where the metatarsal/ankle meet. Rest would appear to be all I can do now?
Just remembered the missus convinced me to do a few strength and conditioning sessions last 10 days. Think that was not a good idea :'(

Is that what it's called in your house?!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 13, 2014, 11:31:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 13, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 13, 2014, 10:47:27 AM
This day two weeks lads, we'll be bombing along. The calm before the storm!!

Finally into taper. Was undecided about what to do at weekend right up until Saturday am but after a busy week, I just didn't feel the energy levels where high so did a decent 10miles on Saturday morning with a good part of it at a 7.10pace and then yesterday did 16miles very easy with 5 lads from the club who are for the marathon as well.

Great relaxing run on a glorious sunday morning, we even walked behind a heard of cows at one stage. Myself and another lad pushed on for the last 3 miles.

So winding down now.

Roll on the 27th.

Had a bit of a mare on Sunday when I went out to do 13 with the gang and had to pull up after 10. I felt stomached from the start and legs were weak. Wanted to go home after 3 miles and it was torture until got a sharp pain in my foot at mile 10 and walked home.
I know I eat a bit late and had a touch of a head cold lately but couldn t figure the state of my legs and lower back. I d done 2X20 and a 22 and found them ok.
Now I ve got another injury to worry about. When my big toe strikes I get pain where the metatarsal/ankle meet. Rest would appear to be all I can do now?
Just remembered the missus convinced me to do a few strength and conditioning sessions last 10 days. Think that was not a good idea :'(

Is that what it's called in your house?!  ;)

:D :D :D

When you re married as long as I ve been you just call that nostalgia :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 14, 2014, 03:35:14 PM
Did a 10k in Breaffy Sunday morning, after a disappointing 10 miler and HM it was good to get a good race, 39:57, happy enough to stay under the 40, esp considering it was a hilly oul course.
Some serious runners there, Norah Newcombe won the ladies in 36:40, unreal, she'll be in the top 5-8 Irish ladies in the marathon.
Some lad called Matt Bidwell did it in 31:59, that's a serious time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 14, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Read and weep lads, fellow on boards.ie has done a very detailed spec of the new marathon route.

Great read in fairness.

DCM 2014 Course breakdown

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I'll get straight into it........

Miles 0 - 1.5:
The start is the same as previous years, in that it gets going on Fitzwiliam place, then swings right onto leeson st. Its a fast start and before we'd swing right at the end of leeson st and by stepehens green. But this year you keep going straight ahead all the way down kevin st, through the lights and into the coombe.

Miles 1.5 - 3:
You turn right up Meath st and thats a drag all the way to Thomas st. Its about 300 - 400m. Its not a bg incline but that street is very narrow.......even more narrow with cars parked on the left hand side, so there could be some congestion. Then you turn right onto Thomas st and its a fastish section which gets even faster when you go down the hill at christchurch. At the end of this hill you go left along the quays.

So basically the first 3 miles are fast.

Miles 3 - 7:
At the end of the quays you turn right over the bridge, then left and straight ahead onto parkgate st. This is where a drag starts that goes from here to castleknock. From here to the phoenix monument its quite sharp(as far as drags go anyway) and then flattens out for a bit, but then as you hit the castleknock gate it goes up again. This is around the 10k mark and I have to say that stretch out of the park is the worst of the drags (so far). This section I think will cause a some problems for people in that tyring to maintain marathon pace will leave you fried.........but not straight away. And thats the devious thing about it, if you try to hold MP here you wont feel the bite until later, but it will take a bite. Best thing to do is to drop the pace back a few seconds per mile, let yourself be comfortable and tuck in behind a group let them do the work. And I have to mention the wind.......it'll be in your face all the way up, for sure.

Miles 7 - 9:
You go left from castleknock onto college road, which surprise surprise, is another drag........but its a short one, about 200m. But I'd still hold back and not try to fly up it. But this is where the fun begins because theres a good mile of downhill. And its really fast........I know a lot of people say you should be careful on fast downhills but personally after the time you've lost on the 4 mile drag it makes sense to let rip. A bit. And being careful of course not to top yourself over a pothole. You swing left back into the park and this will be a bit of a shock to the legs after the speed of the down hill. But it doesnt last long because you swing right onto the upper glen road which is another fast section that goes as far as the Chapleizod gate.

Miles 9 -12.5
Out of the park and past Donore Harriers HQ, then you go left into the village and its fairly flat. The road surface though is in a jock so be careful.
And then theres the Hill up st lawerences road. Like the drag in the park its early enough in the race to be tmepted to just blast up it. But I'd advise against that. Again, death by a thousand cuts, that kind of thing. You blast up that hill now and I promise you it'll take a bit a few miles later. Personally I think the best thing to do is to slow right down and stroll up it.
Then youre onto sarsfield road which is flat, you go right under the bridge and theres another drag. This is a sneaky one because it doesnt look like much but again if you try to maintain Marathon pace here you'll put a dent in yourself. Then after that youre by kilmainham and swing right where theres (yet) another incline. Its short and sharp though. The section after this aorund the south circular road is a strange one. It always seems very quiet, like a ghost town.......but in the distance you can hear the rumble from dolphins barn. The road surface here is in an absolute heap and there seems to be a big camber(from right to left as you go towards Dolphins barn). Its flat but because of the dodgy surface and the camber, it always seems like a hard section to maintain MP.

Miles 12.5 - 15

When you turn right at dolphins barn theres always a massive crowd waiting and its actually awe inspiring(double if the weather is good). So You do get a lift from the crowd and you can find your pace quickening as a result, but its best to maintain your composure, not get caught up in things because this is actually a pretty tough stretch that goes on for over 2 miles. And you can be guaranteed that the wind will be in your face......even if it seems like theres no wind and everything is calm, there'll be a wind. In your face. So again, tuck in behind some man mountain and conserve your energy. Dont try to maintain marathon pace on this stretch, like the drag in the park, ease back a few seconds per mile(a good few seconds). Halfway point used to be outside superquinn but its now out side a chipper called Mona lisa.......classy.

Miles 15 - 17
Once you hit the walkinstown roundabout thats all the big energy zapping drags done and dusted. You turn left onto Cromwellforths road which is a long straight stretch thats more or less flat. Fortfield road at about 17 miles is a drag. Its not a very long section but I always find it hard to turn from the relative flatness of the previous section to the drag up this road, it can kind of bring you to a standstill. So best to take it handy and not try to flog the pace. Actually the next section at the back of Terenure college is deceptive, its not flat even though it might appear to be but anybody whos run the sportsworld race will know that its not an easy stretch.

Miles 17 - 20

You turn left onto the terenure road and thankfully this is a nice fast section. Actually from here to milltown is fast so this is the time to really go for it and take advantage of the downward drag.

Miles 20 - 22

Theres a hill in Milltown and personally I really hate this one. Its nothing major in the grand scheme of things but its sharp and at this stage of the race can take a bite. After that though its flat to downhill for a bit and then the hill at clonskeagh. Or to be more accurate, the series of hills and plateaus at closnkeagh, because you go up for a bit, it flattens, you go up again, it flattens and you go up again. Then its by the mosque and you turn left up roebuck road. Its flat enough but then at the end, just before you turn onto fosters avenue theres roebuck hill. This has been discussed before and for whatever reason its gained a rep as being the course bad boy. Its not really. Its sharp and it will put the hurt on you but its short and its over before you know it.

Miles 22 - 24
Fosters Ave. This is a very quick section and you can just let fly. 4miles to go and you gotta start emptying the tank here. Left and the end onto stilorgan dual carrigeway, still fast, then right over the UCD flyover and onto nutley lane. So 22- 24 is fast.

Miles 24 - finish
Left at the end of nutley lane and onto merrion row which is a long straight stretch. The road is wide and exposed and I personally hate this part. Up by the British embassy then the RDS, you swing right onto shelbourne road. Another long stretch thats fairly quick.
The old course would have you continue on over the canal, but with the new course you swing left up haddington road. Its a bit of a drag but nothing killer, and then you turn right onto Northumberland road. And from here its a long straigth run to the finish. And it is long........
I have to say I prefer this finish to the old one. Before the hump at the canal and the stretch up Pearse st were pretty horrible. This way it seems to be over quicker.

And thats it. I was talking to a friend the other day who said that after a while everybody becomes an expert. I dont claim to be an expert but I'll say how I think this course could best be run and you can do with that information as you please.
I think you should start off easy, really be careful on the section from the pargate st all the way to castleknock, like dont try and run maraton pace, slow it down. Ditto for crumlin road. I think a negative split of at least 2 minutes is the way to go, trying to run even splits on this course is nuts. Maybe the course profile doesnt look so bad but theres a profile and then theres the real thing. Hold back on the hills, dont try to blast up them, you'll pay for that later on. Wait until the walkinstown roundabout to make a move, its about 11 miles to the finish from there which is perfect for negative splitting. Respect the hills, make hay on the quicker sections, run very comfortably over the first half and go for it after walkinstown. And especially go for it once you hit fosters ave, thats 4 miles+ of Gold.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Check out gary o'hanlon's facebook bingo. It has some good info too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 14, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Check out gary o'hanlon's facebook bingo. It has some good info too.

Seen a bit of it but he was scaring me!

Seems to match what this lad says about the drag through the park?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 16, 2014, 09:19:35 PM

Starting to feel a bit more positive about Dublin now.
After Sunday's downer felt really good on Tuesday night when we did a fast 6 miler. Last hole-opener of a run. Got a deep rub yesterday that seems to have improved a few niggles.

Might get a 10 miler in on Saturday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 19, 2014, 07:29:20 PM
Found this on page 3.

The work done now lads. Nice week done, a 7miler, two 5milers one with 3m at 5km pace and finally a 12mile today.

All about rest now. Good food, regular water and rest.

Keep the stress levels down all week, get the busy work done early in the week and plan to get expo done and dusted early on Saturday.

7 days and counting!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 19, 2014, 07:36:04 PM
Nice 9 mile for me this morning.
Looking forward to it all now.
Between online and offline sponsorship I've now gone over the €2000 mark now so delighted about that.
The father in law collected nearly €400 for me in the Ballinteer St Johns GAA club house the other night. I've always loved the Dubs  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2014, 07:53:14 PM
Good luck everybody don't let the nerves get you, stick to the plan and keep the pace. Very jealous now but good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 19, 2014, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 19, 2014, 07:36:04 PM
Nice 9 mile for me this morning.
Looking forward to it all now.
Between online and offline sponsorship I've now gone over the €2000 mark now so delighted about that.
The father in law collected nearly €400 for me in the Ballinteer St Johns GAA club house the other night. I've always loved the Dubs  ;)

I am feeling inspired and definitely a touch of jealousy. Just did 21.35kms for no obvious reason other than thinking of you lads next week. I had planned a 10k and maybe more if I felt well. But I turned into Forest Gump.

Anyway, well done on the fund raising and especially the training, all your work is done now so best of luck with it.

I am not sure what technology the DCM has, can we follow your progress in real time? Or do we have to wait for you to post updates every 5k? Maybe Siri can do it for you??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 19, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 19, 2014, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 19, 2014, 07:36:04 PM
Nice 9 mile for me this morning.
Looking forward to it all now.
Between online and offline sponsorship I've now gone over the €2000 mark now so delighted about that.
The father in law collected nearly €400 for me in the Ballinteer St Johns GAA club house the other night. I've always loved the Dubs  ;)

I am feeling inspired and definitely a touch of jealousy. Just did 21.35kms for no obvious reason other than thinking of you lads next week. I had planned a 10k and maybe more if I felt well. But I turned into Forest Gump.

Anyway, well done on the fund raising and especially the training, all your work is done now so best of luck with it.

I am not sure what technology the DCM has, can we follow your progress in real time? Or do we have to wait for you to post updates every 5k? Maybe Siri can do it for you??
There is an app or web page link or something that can track a runners progress.Just enter name or bib number I think.
I reckon you'll be well able for the Marathon next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 20, 2014, 06:45:40 PM
It'll all be over this time next week.

Early tip for the week ahead but anyways:

Sort out exactly what you going to wear and put it together this evening. Run in it on Wednesday, put it all on to wash, dry it and then put it all together somewhere safe wearing to change into on Monday.

Wear nothing new on the day - socks, runners, compression top, running vest, sorts etc.

Having it all sorted early in week will be one less job over weekend and avoid any last minute stresses  of running round looking your gear!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 20, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
Looking for to Monday now, did a 12 miler yesterday, a nice easy week ahead, thank god!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 23, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
Any good ideas of where to park on the day?  Have to leave herself to Connolly early and then find somewhere close for the race.  Saw the Pembroke Wanderers hockey club have a park they open but other than that I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 23, 2014, 03:47:19 PM
Anyone have a route plan with distances? Might be able to get out on the route to cheer a few of ye on. Good luck to ye all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 23, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 23, 2014, 03:47:19 PM
Anyone have a route plan with distances? Might be able to get out on the route to cheer a few of ye on. Good luck to ye all.
http://dublinmarathon.ie/s/SSE-AT-DM14-ROUTE-MAP-hgkz.pdf
Title: Re: Running
Post by: whiskeysteve on October 23, 2014, 04:10:30 PM
Lads, this may have been posted but came across this on facebook, a video showing the entire marathon route for Monday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnKDmq8FPA

Great fundraising Laoislad!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on October 23, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
Best of Luck everyone.  It's only 26 miles but last 200 yards are the killer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 23, 2014, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 23, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 23, 2014, 03:47:19 PM
Anyone have a route plan with distances? Might be able to get out on the route to cheer a few of ye on. Good luck to ye all.
http://dublinmarathon.ie/s/SSE-AT-DM14-ROUTE-MAP-hgkz.pdf

Do they have toilets en route?

Also the St. John's Ambulance station at just over 2 miles in, should really be replaced with men in white coats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 23, 2014, 07:45:16 PM
Good luck all. The route looked long even by car. With the weather likely to be mixed would you recommend a t-shirt or vest or both ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 23, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
don't forget cream and gels on the vital bits

chaffing is a killer
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 23, 2014, 10:24:02 PM
Can't wait to get it outta the way!

Donehy & Nesbitts afterwards if anyone fancies a pint!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 24, 2014, 09:09:32 AM
Few bits of advice for everyone on Monday which you might not have heard before  ;D

It's bumper to bumper for the first 4 miles...expect it so don't stress when you are watching legs ahead of you like a hawk not to trip or going round bends..
That said, no need for a massive warm up..nothing more than usual..don't be wasting energy jumping up and down on the start line which is essentially just nervous energy...
Bring a wide ( :)) topped bottle to whizz for the start line...porta jacks are always a disaster and no doubt you'll have a few nerve dribbles before the gun...
Control in first half absolutely vital, don't get whipped up by the crowd in early stages...you'll suffer in every way later if you do.
Few things will match the satisfaction when it's done..so yes, no matter how bad a state you are in around 22-23...it is worth it!
I'm in a meeting at 9.45 on Monday for I don't know how long but if anyone who's running that wants to PM me their bib number..be nice to keep an eye on ye!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
Another bit of advice.
Don't tell the wife that the last 6 miles of a Marathon will probably be worse than child birth.
She won't appreciate it...... :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 24, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
Sound advice as always BM.

As LL will testify from his 10mile run in the Park 10miler, no matter how well and strong you feel at the start, watch your pace and save the legs. Everyone is saying that the opening half is the tough one on this years course with the uphill sections and the long drag up into and through the park on Chesterfield Avenue, so while this won't trouble you at the time, too much effort on it to maintain your pace will cost you later. So keep an eye on the pace!

Heading to the expo tomorrow myself, get it done and dusted.

Had a dream last night that I was driving and suddenly the red light came on and was out of diesel before I got to a filling station! I'm sure its a metaphor for hitting the wall on Monday  :-[  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
I'm heading in on Sunday afternoon. Been advised to get in and get out asap.

I know it's at the slower end of the pace scale but is there anyone else going out with the 4:10 pacers?
Give me a shout if you are,might be nice to have a bit of company!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 24, 2014, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
I'm heading in on Sunday afternoon. Been advised to get in and get out asap.

I know it's at the slower end of the pace scale but is there anyone else going out with the 4:10 pacers?
Give me a shout if you are,might be nice to have a bit of company!

Have a wee nose round the expo. Its not huge but well worth a look around and soak up some of the atmosphere. You can pick up some cheap gear and its worth checking out the history part.

In the big city marathons the expo's are massive and you could spend hours in them, Dublin isn't too bad or big.

PS some of the "sales" people selling stuff like the Skins gear and the European city marathons are very easy on the eye! I remember the Munich or Hamburg marathon been a very busy area last year  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 24, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 24, 2014, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2014, 11:11:16 AM
I'm heading in on Sunday afternoon. Been advised to get in and get out asap.

I know it's at the slower end of the pace scale but is there anyone else going out with the 4:10 pacers?
Give me a shout if you are,might be nice to have a bit of company!

Have a wee nose round the expo. Its not huge but well worth a look around and soak up some of the atmosphere. You can pick up some cheap gear and its worth checking out the history part.

In the big city marathons the expo's are massive and you could spend hours in them, Dublin isn't too bad or big.

PS some of the "sales" people selling stuff like the Skins gear and the European city marathons are very easy on the eye! I remember the Munich or Hamburg marathon been a very busy area last year  ;)
ah stop, yer wan last year would give a jellyfish a horn!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 24, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
Another bit of advice.
Don't tell the wife that the last 6 miles of a Marathon will probably be worse than child birth.
She won't appreciate it...... :-[

;D ;D ;D ;D

Can you PM your FaceBook details please? I won't be in Ireland on Monday but I will be cheering you on from afar.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
Good luck to all you guys on Monday. On the home straight now and seem to all sound to have put the work in so you will be  grand. Remember whatever you go through in the last 6 miles there will be plenty more like you going through the same.

Don't know any of you from adam so post here with how you got on!

I think some of you are trained by Maria McCambridge? Good article on her in the Irish Independent the other day leading up to the marathon which is worth a read.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
Slow 2mile run done this morning to finish off my training plan.
Legs felt a bit heavy but maybe that's just nerves ?
Hope so!
Heading into expo in a bit and then just relax for the day.
This time tomorrow I'll be at about 3 miles in....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
Slow 2mile run done this morning to finish off my training plan.
Legs felt a bit heavy but maybe that's just nerves ?
Hope so!
Heading into expo in a bit and then just relax for the day.
This time tomorrow I'll be at about 3 miles in....

Good luck tomorrow LL,  it will fly in!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 26, 2014, 05:36:12 PM
Ya Maria is training me, have read a couple of things on her this week, very good, she has serious notions of competing with the Kenyans, which would be unbelievable.

Had nightmares Friday Nite, dreamt I got lost 😟

Great excitement around dublin today, actually looking forward to it tomorrow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 26, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
The very best of luck to all the lads running tomorrow! Wish I was there with you at the start line in the morning! Looking forward to reading all you reports. Next year  . . . . all being well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 26, 2014, 07:44:14 PM
Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 26, 2014, 08:06:18 PM
'Twas the night before marathon.....

Best of luck to everyone tomorrow and sees you's on the other side!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
Best of luck everyone.
Hope it all goes to plan for everyone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on October 26, 2014, 09:31:59 PM
Best of luck to all tomorrow. Don't think i'd ever have the nerve to attempt it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on October 26, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
Good luck to everyone tomorrow in Dublin, especially to those doing their first marathon. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 26, 2014, 10:30:19 PM
Best of luck tomorrow folks. A last minute achilles niggle has meant I have to give it a miss this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 26, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Donehy and Nesbitts for a pint after if anyone's around, just knock me off a PM
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2014, 11:19:19 PM
Good luck to all the marathoners!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on October 26, 2014, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 26, 2014, 11:19:19 PM
Good luck to all the marathoners!

Are they not called snickerthoners now ?.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 26, 2014, 11:31:14 PM
Nerves are up a bit but for the first time really im looking forward to getting going. Good luck to everyone going for their times. Im just hoping to finish before dark.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 09:56:46 AM
They're off! If anyone is tracking guys keep us posted...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2014, 10:30:19 AM
Ye can track on this yoke - http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2014#b=na&v=ptrack
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on October 27, 2014, 11:14:31 AM
best of luck to everyone running.  Would love to give it a go! Ran a 7 miler yesterday (longest I'd ever ran before was a parkrun) and despite being reasonably fit it gave me enormous respect for anyone who gets themselves into shape for a marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 11:17:18 AM
Laoislad went through 10K in 62.23, expected to cross halfway at 11.22am....perfect 10min mile pacing, keep her lit.

Bingo moving very well, 7.37 per mile average, crossed halfway in 1.39.50, on for sub 3.20 at this stage.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 11:25:41 AM
Bingo through 30KM in 2.21.59, 7.38 min mile average...glorious pacing! estimated finish time of 3.19.45 at the moment, last few miles will hurt big time but be unreal to hold on..


Laoislad over halfway there...through half in 2.13.15, mighty stuff for first marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Mayo4sam sticking at it too, looks to be suffering from halway to his 30km time...world of pain so it is, i've been there.

Bingo not in yet...hope he gets under the 3.30...stick at it chief!!

Laoislad still going strong!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
Bingo in at 3.28 and a bit, the last 10km was the killer...got the sub 3.30, bit off his PB but did the job, congrats...another marathon in the bag!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
Laoislad through 30km in 3.20, slowing at bit since half. Estimated finish time of 4.50, hope he holds on for sub 5...He'll do the job...Liverpool supporters are stubborn sure!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 27, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
Great updates, thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 12:49:08 PM
Mayo4Sam home in 3.46. Tough morning at the office but marathon in the bag. Will no doubt use the experience of this morning, invaluable. Possible injury or upset stomach or something maybe but got the job done. Congrats!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
Laoislad home!! 4.59!! GET THE FCUK IN THERE....sub 5, seriously dug that one out.

Huge respect to the guy who this time last year never even ran a 5K. Brilliant cause too.
Fantastic achievement by everyone today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 27, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 27, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
Laoislad home!! 4.59!! GET THE FCUK IN THERE....sub 5, seriously dug that one out.

Huge respect to the guy who this time last year never even ran a 5K. Brilliant cause too.
Fantastic achievement by everyone today.

Fair f*cks LL.

Looking forward to hearing from all the runners what it was like.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 27, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
Great updates BM.

Was a tough day out there. Knew from about half way the PB was gone, was suffering with the heat. Had to em seriously ease off in last 6 miles. 3.30 was the revised target. My 3rd Dublin marathon and never seen carnage in last miles like it, people literally dropping as they ran including one on the last 50 yards.

Fair play LL and the others. Super going coming from nothing and money raised which surpasses everything, two very proud wee lads waiting for you no doubt.

I'm off to binge on junk food!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
Great running all you guys. I know quite a few doing it and times, bar one of two, seemed slower than normal whether that be conditions or the new course. Seemed like a tough day out there so fair play to everyone.

Great run by Maria McCambridge who seemed to be just pipped for victory in the overall womens race..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 27, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
Just in the door from it there.  Delighted to have got round in one piece and in a time of 4.55. Some feeling coming up the last mile and knowing its nearly done. That was my first so was a real hit and hope job but i dont know if id go again. The day itself was very enjoyable chatting to people along the way and the support was unreal but the joints are screaming at me now.  Fair play to everyone that made it round and enjoy the celebrating!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
Hardest thing I've ever done.
Legs cramped at 16miles and I walked/jogged to the finish line.
Brilliant atmosphere and a great thrill to cross the line.I was finishing no matter what so time went out the window after the legs went but I wasn't going to stop.I had to finish and I did.
4:59 in the end.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 27, 2014, 05:52:34 PM
As somebody who doesn't run :-[ :-[ may I just say well done to all of you who finiahed the marathon today. Fair play to you all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
Hardest thing I've ever done.
Legs cramped at 16miles and I walked/jogged to the finish line.
Brilliant atmosphere and a great thrill to cross the line.I was finishing no matter what so time went out the window after the legs went but I wasn't going to stop.I had to finish and I did.
4:59 in the end.
Well done f**k face and all the rest of youse.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 27, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
Hardest thing I've ever done.
Legs cramped at 16miles and I walked/jogged to the finish line.
Brilliant atmosphere and a great thrill to cross the line.I was finishing no matter what so time went out the window after the legs went but I wasn't going to stop.I had to finish and I did.
4:59 in the end.

Just in the door LL.....Finished up in 4.57....I was going to head I to to the mosque with you at one stage...my first marathon, learned a lot to be honest, hydration is so so important....to be honest though didn't notice the heat too much...have a golf ball in my hamstring and my calf keeps locking up....I hear an extra large big mac meal is the perfect cure....well done to one and all all...We are in the one per cent club..unreal..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 27, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
Well done everyone. I am truly in awe of you all. Some achievement. Just awesome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2014, 07:29:40 PM
Just back in door. 3 hour drive after that was punishment.

Serious carnage out there today. Combination of higher than usual temperatures and a headwind in places perhaps?. The amount of stronger runners cramping up and walking early was unreal.

Really enjoyed it as far as mile 21(lol) and then lost about 12 minutes with cramp. Ruined my day because form was good. At mile 20 I was sure I was getting under my 3:50 target with a biteen to spare with all the downhill finish. A few salt tabs could have saved the day but you run and learn.

Hopefully everybody got back in one piece and goes on to fight another day.

Great auld support out there as usual.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 27, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
Well done to all finishers but I have to say that Laois Lad deserves great praise for his thrawness and determination👍.We had a good first 16 and I take my hat off to the pacers, in our case the 3 40 guys. We had to let them go then but got home in 3 50 59. The crowd were magnificent, Ireland is a great country and I have now officially retired from marathon running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
well done everybody, even the Liverpool lads, some achievement and something I won't be attempting either, big effort required by all to do it, the cramping sounds bad though, is this brought on by adrenaline kicking in or food beforehand? most lads seem to be cramping up around the 18 to 21 mile mark, seems strange that this is happening when during training leading up to this points (i.e doing 20 mile runs) no cramping happening!!!

I'm not a long distance runner, half marathons being plenty for me, so maybe the good runners can fill me in
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on October 27, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Well done all. Inspirational stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 28, 2014, 09:52:32 AM
Many congratulations to all the mad marathon men! I've heard tales of 'carnage' in the last 10k! Seasoned runners with 5 plus marathons under their belt were up to 20mins slower than expected - people cramping and stopping all over the shop! Well done new members of the 1% club!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 28, 2014, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on October 27, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
Well done to all finishers but I have to say that Laois Lad deserves great praise for his thrawness and determination👍.We had a good first 16 and I take my hat off to the pacers, in our case the 3 40 guys. We had to let them go then but got home in 3 50 59. The crowd were magnificent, Ireland is a great country and I have now officially retired from marathon running.
Thanks but to be honest I don't deserve any more praise than the rest of ye. We all had to run the same distance and endure the same heat and wind. Reading other forums this morning and 99% of the reports are of people cramping and struggling to the finish or not finishing at all.I see even some of the pacers didn't finish.
Well done to all. I'll write a proper race report later on in the week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2014, 11:36:58 AM
Not feeling too bad today apart from the feet themselves - putting that down to the hilly nature of the route, never seemed to be on the flat!

Plus can't get enough water into me, have been drinking non-stop since finishing. Really feel the heat had an impact, the wind likely masked this at times.

Was a few pacers alright who dropped up and then there was one of the 3.30 pacers who went too fast. He passed me just before the RDS, about 2 to go. I was cursing the Garmin and thought it had really fecked up. But then I noticed he was on his own. I hung close to him thinking I needed to but eventually lost sight of him in last mile.

Turns out he was totally off pace for most of the race. He finished in 3.27.40 odd. Not sure what his game was. The 3.30 pacers seemed to suffer. He went too quick and another dropped out in last 2 miles but he recovered to chase a few people over the line it seems to get under the time, even though he missed it himself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 28, 2014, 01:26:52 PM

Feeling a bit disappointed today now. Apart from a bit of soreness in muscles that cramped I feel fine. Not wrecked or anything. Temperature and heart rate normal - not like I d be if I pushed myself in even a half or a 10k. I wish I could have another go at it next week in more favourable conditions :'(
Of the 25 or so people I know who did it only 4 would be happy with their run and as many as 10 crashed and burned.
But hey,... that's the game. Ye have to run the conditions and be prepared. It s what makes the odd good day special I suppose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 28, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
Wheels came off in a big way yesterday, awful cramps, walked from Rathgar, disappointed with 3.46
Saw a lot of lads being stretched away though so could be worse
Serious crowds yesterday
Very sore today as well
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Muck Savage on October 28, 2014, 07:35:09 PM
Marathons have a way of finding any weakness in your training or preparation. I've trained hard in the past but crashed and burned because of bad preparations in the last week. Race managements with food/water intake in the race is very important also, can't take too much on for fear of a stich can't take too little on for fear of cramps. I've always blamed the lack of water or food taken in when I crashed or cramps kicked in. On a hot or humid day the need for water and salt is very important, I take a salt tablet morning of the race also. During the race I take on Gu's and half a banana every 8-10 miles.

Well done all, not an easy job especially when the legs go. It will however make you want to do another next year, wait and see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
Lads - am looking for one or two 5k races, maybe even a 10k, in the next 4/5 weeks and am struggling to find a few. I'm based in Sligo but am in Dublin quite a few weekends so if anyone hears or knows of any then please share the details. Have got back into the routine and am working towards doing a race in a decent time. Brothers wedding in Florida in mid December, followed by a "replay" in Sligo the following week, followed by Christmas so trying to get the last out of the year before the madness starts!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2014, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
Lads - am looking for one or two 5k races, maybe even a 10k, in the next 4/5 weeks and am struggling to find a few. I'm based in Sligo but am in Dublin quite a few weekends so if anyone hears or knows of any then please share the details. Have got back into the routine and am working towards doing a race in a decent time. Brothers wedding in Florida in mid December, followed by a "replay" in Sligo the following week, followed by Christmas so trying to get the last out of the year before the madness starts!

Early December you should have a few of the Xmas races - Santa Dash, Reindeer run etc in and around Dublin. They are generally on the last weekend in November 29/30 or the first weekend in December. They are generally fairly good races.  Be surprised if these not on runireland.

We have our own 5km on the 30th November, which is always a good run (about 600 done it last year) but its in Castleblayney, so likely too far out of your way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 01:49:45 PM
Bingo - thanks for the reply. It might be tough for me to get to 'blayney alright. Saw the Santa dash alright but I've something on that day so times might not suit. Do you have to wear the Santa suit for that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 29, 2014, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 01:49:45 PM
Bingo - thanks for the reply. It might be tough for me to get to 'blayney alright. Saw the Santa dash alright but I've something on that day so times might not suit. Do you have to wear the Santa suit for that?

This is starting up next weekend and will be on every saturday morning, which might suit you when in Dublin: http://www.parkrun.ie/poppintree/ (http://www.parkrun.ie/poppintree/)

I have done the Malahide and the St. Anne's versions.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
If you're near Lucan seanie come and do the parkrun with me any Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 29, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 01:49:45 PM
Bingo - thanks for the reply. It might be tough for me to get to 'blayney alright. Saw the Santa dash alright but I've something on that day so times might not suit. Do you have to wear the Santa suit for that?

Belleek Woods 10K (Ballina, Mayo), December 7.

AI measured. Flat and Fast.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 29, 2014, 02:17:40 PM
Thanks Muppet, Laoislad and Moysider.

Muppet - that parkrun in Poppintree is so close to my in-laws house that I wouldn't even have a decent warmup to get to it. Thanks so much for letting me know about it - that's Saturday morning taken care of for the weekends I'm in Dublin. I was running in that park last Sunday! 

Laoislad - would love to go for a run with you though I'd probably only see you at the start and at the end. Would defo go over to Lucan only that this run in Poppintree is so handy.

Moysider - I know I am in Dublin and have something on on December 7th. I seem to remember from last year that that run is on a lovely scenic route. Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
Where is Poppintree anyway?
I wouldn't mind doing a different park run somewhere sometime.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 29, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
Where is Poppintree anyway?
I wouldn't mind doing a different park run somewhere sometime.

If i'm not mistaken, its near DCU/Ballymun.

You a Dublin, thought you'd know the lie of the land  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
Seanie,

Outside of the Parkruns, the Jingle Bells 5km in Phoenix Park on 6th December is one well worth getting to.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Marathon Race report (been tipping at this on breaks since yesterday, when it was fresh).

Last year, the training, the race itself, the afters, couldn't have went better. Smashed the PB and felt good until the last few miles. But crossed the line with a smile. This reflected the training, which I really enjoyed and had a good crew to run with namely the brother who was doing it as well (and had a painful day).

This year, I'd put in a good year running wise. Never really took a break, ran 1.08 for a 10miler at start of the marathon training programme, got half marathon down to 1.32 and ran 40.30 for a 10km. Both of them came in spring/late spring for the half. So was motoring rightly.

When time Marathon came round I was fully on for it, all summer I was looking towards it. When it came to actually start the training, I was struggling. Not on the running but actually getting the runs in. Work, family life and the GAA where just taking time. Seriously thought about parking it after about 3 weeks into the programme but a very comfortable 15miler plus words of wisdom from her indoors "would you not like to do 3-in-a-row when you can" sealed the deal.

As with everything, I'd sacrifice something to get it done. It meant sleep! Early runs where the order of the day and truth been told I loved the peaceful mornings round the local forest park where I had a nice 5 mile route on repeat. One morning I'd a 19mile done at 8.20am as I'd a club function that weekend and a few pints would be in order!

By time marathon came round, I felt decent. Didn't stick to the plan as rigidly as last year but had good quality runs in. One thing bugging me was not hitting 22 miles in training LSR like last year. It also turned out I has 18,19 and 20 done this year against 20x2 and 22 last year. But what can you do. I'd get through it and said I'd go for a PB by breaking 3.20.

The weekend was upon us. A lot from the club booked in for Sunday night in Dublin. Last year, I travelled up on the morning and it worked well, so stuck with this. Hit the expo on Saturday, took the kids and herself up. They enjoyed it, had a nose round and a bit to eat down the road. Sunday done nothing, a 3 mile loosener like last year on Sunday morning and never left the house he rest of the day bar one trip which I'll get to later!

In my report last year, I mentioned a GAA legend in my club, Eddie murphy and his rounds of encouragement round the RDS as he waited on his sister who was running. Well, Eddie was running this year and taking on his first marathon. He travelled up with me and the driver, the brother who wasn't running this year, and we'd a good craic heading up the round.


Got dropped near the start and straight away I remarked how mild it was. First decision, wear the planned compression top with vest over it or just vest. Went with the compression top. Regret that soon enough!

We changed on side of footpath outside Earlsfort terrace which included a flash of the arse to whoever was looking. Off to bag drop and then waved each other off as Eddie was in wave 2.

Toilet break and then in the starting pen. Head a few others from the Rockets and we'd a chat and craic, few selfies etc and then I moved further up to get the 3.20 pacers in sight.

Plan was to keep them in sight until half way, move closer after that and try stay with them or even get ahead over the closing 10km or so. Sounded great and for the first 30km it was perfect!

The usual National anthem, the welcome, the cheers and then we where off. As always the first few miles where chaotic. Hard to get space, people cutting across, pavement jumping and this year we had the added distraction of pollards on the Green, normally they'd be down but a few ahead clipped them in the road and the shouts went back to be aware of them.

First few miles went grand, was about 8mile pace for first but then got to 7.35/7.40. I did miss the old route here and the buss of heading up O'Connell Street. The Combe and Thomas street, just didn't feel the same.

Breeze was in faces heading up the liffey but it still felt warm. I was immediately  regretting the compression top, even if it was light. We hit Hueston and position was great, 3.20 pacers about 200m ahead, pace was good and the field had spread out. The first tough was approaching but it wouldn't feel it so early.

The drag from round Hueston station up and through the park was marked by a few in pre-race route reports. I planned to maintain effort but not maintain the pace, time could be got back on the other side. Dropped off a bit and was 7.50/8 or so. Moving nicely but the uphill climb was very noticeable and breathing was getting heavy. Kept it easy and was soon well into the park with the pacers about 400m ahead. First gel in ahead of second water station and I needed a leak as well!

Into the toilets just past the water station and sprung out clocking a female runner with the door as I opened it. I apologised and joked they should have windows on the doors! She was grand and said she'd learned a lesson not to run so close to the toilets again!

Picked up a bit as it was flatter and got a bit of time back but soon settled into nice target pace again. The breeze/wind was very noticeable in the wide open spaces of the park. It was more of a cross wind rather than head on but did take some extra energy.

Out of the park and through Castleknock. It was super, great noise and buzz in the village before the turn back down the hill. Eased up the pace a bit, as planned, to reign in the 3.20 pacers but not as much as others who seemed to bomb down the roads.

It was a fairly quiet section of the race, 2 miles of so on quiet roads and then back in to the Park. Into Chapelizod is always great, plenty of noise. By now I was very warm, sweating way too much and couldn't get enough water.

About 9 miles I decide to lose the compression top. Change on the run, vest off, top off, vest back on. Both of them where ringing. I knew it presented another problem - nipple burn. I had slapped on lost of Vaseline but knew this was lost on the compression top and the vest was very wet. But I'll deal with that later.

Top was flung in a bin outside the Hilton at Kilmainham. Crowds where huge and massive noise. Great enjoyed that part and seen first friendly faces from home in the crowd.

Through half way at Dolphins barn and was perfect. 1.39 or so with the 3.20 pacers just up the road. Met the brother and he give a few words of enoruragement and I was happy. Still very warm though, horsing in full bottles of water and knew tough section No 2 was ahead.

Another long drag up Crumlin, the wind always seems to be against you. I noticed people had started dropping off and field was well broken up. Some casualties already, including one of the Elite women with a blanket round her sitting on the pavement with some first aiders. She seemed fine, just keeping warm till a lift came no doubt.

Through Crumlim and past The Sub pub, right in position and pace still perfect but was working a bit too hard for it. Felt an effort now and felt very warm. Into Terenure and it was becoming a chore. We where further along this year than last but I remember feeling really good at same point last year.

I think it was going through Milltown, about 6 miles to go, I threw in the towel for the PB. It was in the head for the last few miles but I just didn't see where I'd get the legs from. I was feeling drained. 3.20 pacers had started to drift and I knew that Clonskeagh was ahead and its my least favourite part of the worse.

By now it was noticeable now many where suffering. Several had stopped and where cramping, others limped along. A runner in a all in one blue suit passed, how was he managing in the heat? He was fully covered.

The sun was now out and it was tough going, pace was over 8's and heading further away from required pace. Plan was to keep going, get over Roebuck and see how it goes. Legs felt gone.

Round the mosque at UCD,I just broke into a walk, needed some relief. I mentioned a trip to the shop on Sunday night, when packing I remembered Wine Gums! Got a packet and had them onboard. I had 5 gels in and was feed up of them. Took two wine gums and started trotting again.

When you walk, people home in on you and try to lift you again. You nearly feel quilty for not doing it for them but you feel helpless. Plus you start to listen to their conversations - "Jesus, they look terrible" "That fella looks very pale" "Will we go for a pint!".

Onwards, back into a very slow jog. Roebuck was grand. An experienced runner told me recently, if injured, train on hills, you'll feel great. Roebuck felt like that, its not much of a hill but got up and over great, was nearly some relief on the legs. Still very warm.

Down fosters avenue and walked again. Just drained, felt demotivated and sorry for myself. Heat was very apparent and back was stiffening. More wine gums, picked a target and ran from it again.

Stillorgan dual carriageway, another quick walk break, more wine gums. It was then apparent how bad it was. Just to my right, a frencg guy was trying to coax a runner to stop. I passed the guy but hadn't even noticed how bad this guy was. He was wobbling badly and dangerously towards the traffic, French runner was pleading with him to stop, his head was all over the shop and legs where barely holding him up. I seen two spectators and pointed back to this guy and asked them to get help. Another runner had him held up by now and French guy ran towards a Garda ahead. I'm sure that was the end of the race for him, about 3.50 to go.

Down and off UCD flyover, turned at RTE and yet another break. The walks where about 100m but seemed to take an age. Got to RDS and seem a few people I knew in crowd, few nods back but that was the height of it. Severve discomfort everywhere, felt sick but said to get to 25m mile mark as my wee lad had pointed it out when we left the expo at the RDS and we laughed about me racing home from there.

Just before the RDS, a 3.30 pacer comes past - F**K IT. I looked at Garmin and cursed it as well, it clearly went wrong somewhere. I waited for the other two pacers to past but no sign. Was too bollixed to look round to see if they where coming, so just ploughed ahead waiting on the inevitable. Still no sign, checked my garmin and convinced he was off track. So kept going and he was new target.

Round the corner from 25m mark and another quick walk, last 2 wine gums. I was now convinced that they where getting me home. We wear the Blayney Rockets tops and normally we get a lot of shout outs, as do all the tops with names on them. We'd get a lot of "Come on Blarney" as well mind but earlier in the race "Come on Blarney Robbers" was the second best shout out I got all day.

The best was round here, an older man standing on his own on opposite side of round past the Aviva, says to me "Keep going Blayney, theres a pint waiting for you in the Spinner!". I never really looked at him but he was a Dub and I didn't recognise him but he just named my local! I managed to laugh some how. 50 yards further was a man in a very bad way on road, eyes rolling and ambulance personnel with him. What are we doing to ourselves here!

In the last mile and crowds where just immense. 5 deep, more likely. It certainly put a spring in the step but everything was shouting back to stop. I'd have walked but couldn't stop, the brain had taken over and it just wanted to finish. Seen Eddies sister and two brothers ahead, screaming at me to go. Brother was on opposite side and he was roaring as well.

Seen a sign - 800m to go. It might as well have said 10miles. Couldn't see the finish yet but the noise from everywhere was deafening been honest. I couldn't hear anyone but I know lots where there from home as they told me afterwards. I seen the finish, brilliant, noise still unreal. 200m to go, a runner ahead goes down just as he reaches the blue mats for the final 50yards, couldn't believe, so close.

Two stewards come to his aid and link towards the line.

Push for the line and I'm done. I let a roar of two out of me and I'm done. Feel absolutely empty, no feeling of elation like last year or feeling of achievement, just sheer relief and my finishers pictures (link below) relect this. Eyes closed, hands on head - relief!

Next is the long walk - medal, t-shirt, bag of not-so-goodies. I only water the water and guzzle it.

Hopple round to the bag collection, get bag and then find a spot to sit and I just sit there for at least ten minutes. Shattered. Eventually peal off the runners, socks and feet are in bits, blood and blisters. Gather myself a bit, make the "I'm grand" phone calls and then get changed over the course of ten minutes. Hopple down to meet Eddie, He's ran a good race, just over 4.03 but ran it very steady. Is feeling it too.

He changes and we head off to get lift and meet some of the other rockets along the way. Its a quiet car down the road. Can't believe as we get towards Blayney the Temp is dropping all the time - we leave Dublin to 18degrees and nice blue skies and now its 13degrees with a nice drizzle, heaven!!

In hindsight, I'm happy I got 3.28. I'd have taken it last year. At 30km I was bang on course but knew the game was up, I wasn't suddenly going to get a burst of energy to maintain pace. Maybe I should have eased up earlier and made it easier on myself. Who knows. I give it a shot and they don't come around often enough to not have a dam good go.

I never dreamt I'd run a marathon. To do 4 is brilliant. As usual, when you finish, its a case of never again, why do that to yourself! But that passes and lets just say theres one in Berlin next September and I entered the ballot for it this morning  :o

http://www.finisherpix.com/photos/my-photos/currency/EUR/pctrl/Photos/paction/search/pevent/dublin-marathon-2014/pbib/3956.html (http://www.finisherpix.com/photos/my-photos/currency/EUR/pctrl/Photos/paction/search/pevent/dublin-marathon-2014/pbib/3956.html) My finishers Pics!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 29, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
VG Bingo. You captured it for me. I met a friend at the expo on Sunday who strongly recommended a vest and boy was she right. I actually enjoyed the solitude of Phoenix park but have to admit the cheering at the corners and in the last mile were uplifting. This was my third, and final, marathon at the age of 52 but look forward to plenty more 10ks and halves. Belfast in 99, NYC in 2000 but the emotion from the Dub crowds in the last couple of miles was wonderful and muppet or any others should seriously consider Dublin 2015- it's shit hard but hugely satisfying. Plus, Moysider, LL, M4S, Bingo, AG, ADA me and the lads can sit at the bar and tell you where you're going wrong ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on October 29, 2014, 08:53:29 PM
Bingo that was an insightful read. I would to do the Dublin marathon next year. The longest i have run was a 10k a couple of years ago. Might start the training next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
That difference from doing the 22 milers to do then the extra 4 miles seems to be the difference from keeping on target and fecking up!! Well done lads decent reads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 29, 2014, 11:31:55 PM
Cracking report Bingo! Savage read. Unfortunately I could identify with a lot of it. Well not really unfortunately. I feel lucky to be able to put myself through that.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
That difference from doing the 22 milers to do then the extra 4 miles seems to be the difference from keeping on target and fecking up!! Well done lads decent reads

No, I don t think so MR2. Yesterday saw a huge amount of runners struggle. Even the elites. So it wasn t like a few novices went crazy on the day.
A bit like football - ye get a different game when it s dry and calm than if it s wet and windy.
Ye have to run the conditions but because you ve invested so much preparation into a marathon you re inclined to try and hit your targets. It s an unforgiving race and you pay the penalty later.

We review things we might have done better.

Bingo made an error of wearing a compression top and realised it was too warm for that.

I eat too late night before (3 hour drive/hour Q for registration/1half hour wait for food)  and ended up in a sweat in a hotel room, unable to sleep as well. Sheets ended up as wet as if I had a bad flu (certainly did not help with hydration for the next day).
To try and cool down I turned down air conditioning to the last. Still in a sweat but air got so dry I ended up coughing - like a smokers cough. So turned off the conditioning. The bit of sleep I got was literally a nightmare.
Still ended up in decent form for the off and felt strong for 20 miles.

The reality is, for somebody chasing seconds for a pb (even in optimum conditions), the last 2 miles can do ye in. This game is not an exact science and it s very thin line between having a good day and being an agitated wreck!

It s all great craic and worthwhile either way ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on October 29, 2014, 11:38:45 PM
Bingo - well done - great read. It seemed to be total carnage this year on the course ?.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebandit on October 30, 2014, 01:00:19 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 29, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Marathon Race report (been tipping at this on breaks since yesterday, when it was fresh).

Last year, the training, the race itself, the afters, couldn't have went better. Smashed the PB and felt good until the last few miles. But crossed the line with a smile. This reflected the training, which I really enjoyed and had a good crew to run with namely the brother who was doing it as well (and had a painful day).

This year, I'd put in a good year running wise. Never really took a break, ran 1.08 for a 10miler at start of the marathon training programme, got half marathon down to 1.32 and ran 40.30 for a 10km. Both of them came in spring/late spring for the half. So was motoring rightly.

When time Marathon came round I was fully on for it, all summer I was looking towards it. When it came to actually start the training, I was struggling. Not on the running but actually getting the runs in. Work, family life and the GAA where just taking time. Seriously thought about parking it after about 3 weeks into the programme but a very comfortable 15miler plus words of wisdom from her indoors "would you not like to do 3-in-a-row when you can" sealed the deal.

As with everything, I'd sacrifice something to get it done. It meant sleep! Early runs where the order of the day and truth been told I loved the peaceful mornings round the local forest park where I had a nice 5 mile route on repeat. One morning I'd a 19mile done at 8.20am as I'd a club function that weekend and a few pints would be in order!

By time marathon came round, I felt decent. Didn't stick to the plan as rigidly as last year but had good quality runs in. One thing bugging me was not hitting 22 miles in training LSR like last year. It also turned out I has 18,19 and 20 done this year against 20x2 and 22 last year. But what can you do. I'd get through it and said I'd go for a PB by breaking 3.20.

The weekend was upon us. A lot from the club booked in for Sunday night in Dublin. Last year, I travelled up on the morning and it worked well, so stuck with this. Hit the expo on Saturday, took the kids and herself up. They enjoyed it, had a nose round and a bit to eat down the road. Sunday done nothing, a 3 mile loosener like last year on Sunday morning and never left the house he rest of the day bar one trip which I'll get to later!

In my report last year, I mentioned a GAA legend in my club, Eddie murphy and his rounds of encouragement round the RDS as he waited on his sister who was running. Well, Eddie was running this year and taking on his first marathon. He travelled up with me and the driver, the brother who wasn't running this year, and we'd a good craic heading up the round.


Got dropped near the start and straight away I remarked how mild it was. First decision, wear the planned compression top with vest over it or just vest. Went with the compression top. Regret that soon enough!

We changed on side of footpath outside Earlsfort terrace which included a flash of the arse to whoever was looking. Off to bag drop and then waved each other off as Eddie was in wave 2.

Toilet break and then in the starting pen. Head a few others from the Rockets and we'd a chat and craic, few selfies etc and then I moved further up to get the 3.20 pacers in sight.

Plan was to keep them in sight until half way, move closer after that and try stay with them or even get ahead over the closing 10km or so. Sounded great and for the first 30km it was perfect!

The usual National anthem, the welcome, the cheers and then we where off. As always the first few miles where chaotic. Hard to get space, people cutting across, pavement jumping and this year we had the added distraction of pollards on the Green, normally they'd be down but a few ahead clipped them in the road and the shouts went back to be aware of them.

First few miles went grand, was about 8mile pace for first but then got to 7.35/7.40. I did miss the old route here and the buss of heading up O'Connell Street. The Combe and Thomas street, just didn't feel the same.

Breeze was in faces heading up the liffey but it still felt warm. I was immediately  regretting the compression top, even if it was light. We hit Hueston and position was great, 3.20 pacers about 200m ahead, pace was good and the field had spread out. The first tough was approaching but it wouldn't feel it so early.

The drag from round Hueston station up and through the park was marked by a few in pre-race route reports. I planned to maintain effort but not maintain the pace, time could be got back on the other side. Dropped off a bit and was 7.50/8 or so. Moving nicely but the uphill climb was very noticeable and breathing was getting heavy. Kept it easy and was soon well into the park with the pacers about 400m ahead. First gel in ahead of second water station and I needed a leak as well!

Into the toilets just past the water station and sprung out clocking a female runner with the door as I opened it. I apologised and joked they should have windows on the doors! She was grand and said she'd learned a lesson not to run so close to the toilets again!

Picked up a bit as it was flatter and got a bit of time back but soon settled into nice target pace again. The breeze/wind was very noticeable in the wide open spaces of the park. It was more of a cross wind rather than head on but did take some extra energy.

Out of the park and through Castleknock. It was super, great noise and buzz in the village before the turn back down the hill. Eased up the pace a bit, as planned, to reign in the 3.20 pacers but not as much as others who seemed to bomb down the roads.

It was a fairly quiet section of the race, 2 miles of so on quiet roads and then back in to the Park. Into Chapelizod is always great, plenty of noise. By now I was very warm, sweating way too much and couldn't get enough water.

About 9 miles I decide to lose the compression top. Change on the run, vest off, top off, vest back on. Both of them where ringing. I knew it presented another problem - nipple burn. I had slapped on lost of Vaseline but knew this was lost on the compression top and the vest was very wet. But I'll deal with that later.

Top was flung in a bin outside the Hilton at Kilmainham. Crowds where huge and massive noise. Great enjoyed that part and seen first friendly faces from home in the crowd.

Through half way at Dolphins barn and was perfect. 1.39 or so with the 3.20 pacers just up the road. Met the brother and he give a few words of enoruragement and I was happy. Still very warm though, horsing in full bottles of water and knew tough section No 2 was ahead.

Another long drag up Crumlin, the wind always seems to be against you. I noticed people had started dropping off and field was well broken up. Some casualties already, including one of the Elite women with a blanket round her sitting on the pavement with some first aiders. She seemed fine, just keeping warm till a lift came no doubt.

Through Crumlim and past The Sub pub, right in position and pace still perfect but was working a bit too hard for it. Felt an effort now and felt very warm. Into Terenure and it was becoming a chore. We where further along this year than last but I remember feeling really good at same point last year.

I think it was going through Milltown, about 6 miles to go, I threw in the towel for the PB. It was in the head for the last few miles but I just didn't see where I'd get the legs from. I was feeling drained. 3.20 pacers had started to drift and I knew that Clonskeagh was ahead and its my least favourite part of the worse.

By now it was noticeable now many where suffering. Several had stopped and where cramping, others limped along. A runner in a all in one blue suit passed, how was he managing in the heat? He was fully covered.

The sun was now out and it was tough going, pace was over 8's and heading further away from required pace. Plan was to keep going, get over Roebuck and see how it goes. Legs felt gone.

Round the mosque at UCD,I just broke into a walk, needed some relief. I mentioned a trip to the shop on Sunday night, when packing I remembered Wine Gums! Got a packet and had them onboard. I had 5 gels in and was feed up of them. Took two wine gums and started trotting again.

When you walk, people home in on you and try to lift you again. You nearly feel quilty for not doing it for them but you feel helpless. Plus you start to listen to their conversations - "Jesus, they look terrible" "That fella looks very pale" "Will we go for a pint!".

Onwards, back into a very slow jog. Roebuck was grand. An experienced runner told me recently, if injured, train on hills, you'll feel great. Roebuck felt like that, its not much of a hill but got up and over great, was nearly some relief on the legs. Still very warm.

Down fosters avenue and walked again. Just drained, felt demotivated and sorry for myself. Heat was very apparent and back was stiffening. More wine gums, picked a target and ran from it again.

Stillorgan dual carriageway, another quick walk break, more wine gums. It was then apparent how bad it was. Just to my right, a frencg guy was trying to coax a runner to stop. I passed the guy but hadn't even noticed how bad this guy was. He was wobbling badly and dangerously towards the traffic, French runner was pleading with him to stop, his head was all over the shop and legs where barely holding him up. I seen two spectators and pointed back to this guy and asked them to get help. Another runner had him held up by now and French guy ran towards a Garda ahead. I'm sure that was the end of the race for him, about 3.50 to go.

Down and off UCD flyover, turned at RTE and yet another break. The walks where about 100m but seemed to take an age. Got to RDS and seem a few people I knew in crowd, few nods back but that was the height of it. Severve discomfort everywhere, felt sick but said to get to 25m mile mark as my wee lad had pointed it out when we left the expo at the RDS and we laughed about me racing home from there.

Just before the RDS, a 3.30 pacer comes past - F**K IT. I looked at Garmin and cursed it as well, it clearly went wrong somewhere. I waited for the other two pacers to past but no sign. Was too bollixed to look round to see if they where coming, so just ploughed ahead waiting on the inevitable. Still no sign, checked my garmin and convinced he was off track. So kept going and he was new target.

Round the corner from 25m mark and another quick walk, last 2 wine gums. I was now convinced that they where getting me home. We wear the Blayney Rockets tops and normally we get a lot of shout outs, as do all the tops with names on them. We'd get a lot of "Come on Blarney" as well mind but earlier in the race "Come on Blarney Robbers" was the second best shout out I got all day.

The best was round here, an older man standing on his own on opposite side of round past the Aviva, says to me "Keep going Blayney, theres a pint waiting for you in the Spinner!". I never really looked at him but he was a Dub and I didn't recognise him but he just named my local! I managed to laugh some how. 50 yards further was a man in a very bad way on road, eyes rolling and ambulance personnel with him. What are we doing to ourselves here!

In the last mile and crowds where just immense. 5 deep, more likely. It certainly put a spring in the step but everything was shouting back to stop. I'd have walked but couldn't stop, the brain had taken over and it just wanted to finish. Seen Eddies sister and two brothers ahead, screaming at me to go. Brother was on opposite side and he was roaring as well.

Seen a sign - 800m to go. It might as well have said 10miles. Couldn't see the finish yet but the noise from everywhere was deafening been honest. I couldn't hear anyone but I know lots where there from home as they told me afterwards. I seen the finish, brilliant, noise still unreal. 200m to go, a runner ahead goes down just as he reaches the blue mats for the final 50yards, couldn't believe, so close.

Two stewards come to his aid and link towards the line.

Push for the line and I'm done. I let a roar of two out of me and I'm done. Feel absolutely empty, no feeling of elation like last year or feeling of achievement, just sheer relief and my finishers pictures (link below) relect this. Eyes closed, hands on head - relief!

Next is the long walk - medal, t-shirt, bag of not-so-goodies. I only water the water and guzzle it.

Hopple round to the bag collection, get bag and then find a spot to sit and I just sit there for at least ten minutes. Shattered. Eventually peal off the runners, socks and feet are in bits, blood and blisters. Gather myself a bit, make the "I'm grand" phone calls and then get changed over the course of ten minutes. Hopple down to meet Eddie, He's ran a good race, just over 4.03 but ran it very steady. Is feeling it too.

He changes and we head off to get lift and meet some of the other rockets along the way. Its a quiet car down the road. Can't believe as we get towards Blayney the Temp is dropping all the time - we leave Dublin to 18degrees and nice blue skies and now its 13degrees with a nice drizzle, heaven!!

In hindsight, I'm happy I got 3.28. I'd have taken it last year. At 30km I was bang on course but knew the game was up, I wasn't suddenly going to get a burst of energy to maintain pace. Maybe I should have eased up earlier and made it easier on myself. Who knows. I give it a shot and they don't come around often enough to not have a dam good go.

I never dreamt I'd run a marathon. To do 4 is brilliant. As usual, when you finish, its a case of never again, why do that to yourself! But that passes and lets just say theres one in Berlin next September and I entered the ballot for it this morning  :o

http://www.finisherpix.com/photos/my-photos/currency/EUR/pctrl/Photos/paction/search/pevent/dublin-marathon-2014/pbib/3956.html (http://www.finisherpix.com/photos/my-photos/currency/EUR/pctrl/Photos/paction/search/pevent/dublin-marathon-2014/pbib/3956.html) My finishers Pics!!

Top class Bingo.... I stopped setting alarms at one stage during the summer, I could rely on you slamming the door at 6:55 am :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2014, 08:40:06 AM
Bingo great report. I don't know what it was about Monday but I've a lot of running buddies who did it and all bar one were way off what they were aiming for. Some of them would be experienced marathon runners looking <3 and a good bit below(having done those times a few times before) and either didn't finish or were 20+ minutes behind schedule. One guy got 2:35 but to be honest he probably has the potential to be a 2:2x guy so even though he smashed his PB it still may have been slow for him. It's a great time no matter what but taking into account how a lot of people struggled I think that makes it even better.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 30, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
Finally got time to sit in peace and read your race report Bingo - absolutely brilliant and congratulations again by the way - the last line made me laugh! That's what it's all about! Having picked up an injury just six weeks out after a brilliant three months of training, I was feeling slightly sorry for myself on Monday - I'm beginning to think I may have dodged a bullet! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 30, 2014, 12:17:40 PM
Great reading Bingo. 

I'll not try to match that but what I would say to lads here who are thinking about it but aren't sure if they would be able, buy a pair of runners and go.  I only started running 6 months ago and the first run I did was 2.5 miles.  I was stiff for a week but after a while it gets easier and the distances go up.  Thought about it after watching a mate do the London Marathon and decided to enter Dublin. 

Got a training plan off the web and started to follow it (not always rigidly) and started to see the improvements.  I wasn't one for bothering with times, just wanted to get to the line and I still wouldn't know my best 5k or 10k time.  Also got a lot of great info off this thread so thanks to the experienced lads for that. 

On the day I prob made a few rookie mistakes but sure thats how you learn.  I arrived in loads of time and got the bag left in and changed into the gear.  Started stretching and watching the crowds gather round.  Headed for the start way too early though.  Was standing nearly an hour waiting for the start.  When the anthem came on the nerves were gone and I just wanted to get going. 

The start was a bit mad with lads tring to get away out in front and people going off very quick.  Kept the head though and kept my own pace.  In training I'd been using my ipod to measure distance and at the 3 mile marker it said I had done 4!  Nearly shit a brick and thought all my training had been shorter than I thought it was.  Worried a bit that I wouldn't make it round but too late to turn back at that point!  Up through the park was nice and the way back through the park was good as well.  No problem with the legs and the breathing was good.  Heading towards halfway and the pain started in the knee but I was expecting it anyway.  Got to the halfway mark at 2hrs 15 and then hit a tough spot.  Decided to walk the hill into the breeze instead of killing myself and popped two neurofen for the knee.  By the time I got to 15 miles I was ready to go again.  The next few miles are a bit blurry because I lost track of where I was but when I saw 20 I was happy I was going to finish, even if there was more walking done.  The last two miles were unreal.  The crowds and the thought of being finished fired me on and at the 800m point I was smiling.  Home stretch and I saw the main clock getting close to 5hrs but I wanted to beat that so emptied the tank and overtook a few people on the way in.  Then I noticed the clock for the wave I was in and I had time to spare!  Home and done in 4:55:07.  Delighted!!

Still not sure if I will do another one or not but if I do I'll do a few things differently.  Training will be more professional rather than just doing boring miles and I might tailor it to aim for a time.  Definitely try and manage morning of the race better as well.  And park closer to the finish line.  I'd a half hour walk back to the car after instead of parking on Stephen's Green!!

Not putting my pics up because most of them are walking shots!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 30, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Brilliant read Andoireabu from a first timer.  Well done - definitely some achievement! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 30, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Fair play lads

But all that running is a killer on the body.
Since I stopped running I'm in much better shape for playing hurling and football.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 30, 2014, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 30, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Brilliant read Andoireabu from a first timer.  Well done - definitely some achievement!

+1
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 30, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
Well done andoireabu - you ll def. be back for more I d say.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 30, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Fair play lads

But all that running is a killer on the body.
Since I stopped running I'm in much better shape for playing hurling and football.

Wouldn t say it s wise for anybody still playing serious football or hurling to be marathon training alright, but I m gone to auld for football :'(

I even quit astroturf football because last time I popped a calf and couldn t run for 8 weeks. Running and cycling and fishin is all I ve got left but I m happy out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 30, 2014, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 30, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Brilliant read Andoireabu from a first timer.  Well done - definitely some achievement!

+1

+2, well done andoireabu.

All this talk is making me think stupid, stupid thoughts.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 30, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 02:17:48 PM

All this talk is making me think stupid, stupid thoughts.....

I went out for first run in about two months last night, and signed up for Run in the Dark 10k on Wed 12 Nov (2 weeks time - there's one in Dublin and Cork as well if anyone's interested).

Definitely inspirational!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 30, 2014, 02:50:51 PM
Decision made, after learning so much this year, am going back to give it a whirl next year....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Guys - am due a new pair of runners. Have been wearing Asics Gel Virage without issue. I love them. Looking them up on the web it says they are designed for moderate overpronators and have a lot of support. My ankles wouldn't be the best from multiple sprains etc over the years playing gaelic football and soccer so the support is welcome. Not sure about the overpronation though. Where can I get a gait analysis done and is it necessary? Am I overthinking this - should I just stick with the brand that I have happily used before? Also, am heading to the the US in about 6 weeks so would it be better to hold off and buy new the new wheels over there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 30, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 30, 2014, 01:27:22 PM
Quote from: Rois on October 30, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Brilliant read Andoireabu from a first timer.  Well done - definitely some achievement!

+1

+2, well done andoireabu.

All this talk is making me think stupid, stupid thoughts.....

Me too seanie,  me too!!!  I even got a proper training program done up by an inter county S & C coach but I have a pretty serious injury at the minute...a very bad case of lazyfatarseditis!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
Great to read the reports from Bingo,andoireabu and others.

So as for my Marathon race report..Sorry lads this is very long and probably boring but here goes anyway.

I wasn't nervous in the week leading up to Monday as I felt I had given the training a good go and I had put the miles in. I had ran 20miles in training at 9'40 pace only a few weeks ago and decided I'd go with the 4:10 pacers as this would have been around 9'30 pace and I felt I'd be well able for that.
I was looking forward to the big day and was confident enough of doing well...maybe a little over confident considering how things panned out!

I got in early enough into town and dropped my bag off and took a wander around and found the area I was supposed to be in. I saw a few lads who had Monaghan accents showing off their bare arses around Earlsfort Terrace and made a quick getaway before they turned around to show off their crown jewels to everyone..... ;)

Found the area I needed to be in and I sat down on a step and had a good look around and then thought to myself...What the f**k am I doing here getting ready to run a bloody Marathon! How did this happen.
I felt an urge to pee then even though I had gone a dozen times before I left the house.
The queues for the portaloos were huge,there must have been 500 people queuing up for 7 toilets. Now unless you are dropping the kids off at the pool there is no need to be queuing for a portaloo IMO.I went down a little alleyway and went there.I actually had to do this about 4 times before the start of the race!

Time was passing quick enough. They played the National Anthem which I must admit I got a great thrill out of and sang it in my best tone deaf Laois accent and then before I knew it the wheelchair athletes had got the start gun and then soon after the Wave 1 guys were crossing the start line..
So Wave 2 was up next and that was when I started. The gun goes and off I go still wondering to myself how the hell I got to the point where I was now competing in a Marathon...

I got to chatting to this girl almost straight away. Turned out she was from Kilkenny and knew nearly everyone I knew and vice versa.
It was great company and we stayed together till Mile 17 when things started to go really wrong for me..that story is a bit later in the post...
For now though I was going fine and the first 11-12 miles flew by. I was going a bit slower than my hoped for 4:10 finish time but I didn't mind and thought I would be able make it up later on.

My parents were going to be standing at the Ashling Hotel at around mile 4 and sure enough they were there along with my sister and her husband.
Into the Phoenix Park we went and I didn't feel the long drag that bad at all. I had ran this 100 times in training so knew what to expect. Into Castleknock  and the support from the crowd was brilliant and then back into the Park we went and down the Upper Glen road and still going grand.

Didn't think the hill just after Chapel Lizod was all that bad and off we went down towards Kilmainham where I have a few friends living right on the course and they were there cheering me on.The company with the girl I met was great and we were chatting away and I was feeling good.

Saw a poor fella as we came up near the Coombe in a very bad way. Looked unconscious to me and I hope he is ok. He was only the first of many many poor feckers who I saw in a bad way.
Turned right for Dolphins Barn and up towards Crumlin hospital. Something was starting to change with me now as we headed towards half way. I wasn't as comfortable as before and the girl I was with was having to ease off her pace a little to stay with me.Not much mind but it was getting a little harder to maintain a conversation and stay at her side.

I thought it a little odd they had a big inflatable thingy that you ran under at  around 12.7 miles. I was sure it was the half way mark as did everyone else with me.I thought for a minute my gps watch was off until we actually did cross the half way mark a bit later.
I found the stretch from Dolphins Barn up to Crumlin hospital and beyond very tough. The sun was coming out and the wind was in our faces.
I kept going regardless but I knew my average pace was dropping and thoughts of catching the 4:10 group had well gone.
I revised my time to 4:30 and was happy enough with that.

So then the fun starts. Mile f**king 16! I was feeling the pressure a good bit before it happened and I had told  the girl with me to go on ahead, but she said no and that we'd stay going together as she was finding it a help to have someone to chat to also.

Then it happened..It was like what I'd imagine taking a bullet to the leg would be like,my left calf had just taken that bullet and it stopped me in my tracks. I somehow got going again after a bit of a stretch and a short walk and made it to about 17 miles when it happened again,only this time it was both legs. To be honest it looked like a bit of a war zone at this stage with bodies lying on the ground at either side of the road and loads of medical staff attending people. I told the girl to keep going as she was feeling fine and I was delighted when she did as I didn't want to be holding her back.

I walked/jogged from then on. My goal now had gone from 4:10 finish to 4:30 to just to finish the bloody thing.
I needed to finish this Marathon,not just for myself but for my son and for all the people that so generously donated to the charity that I was running for. I'll be well over the €3000 mark by the time I have everything collected. That was the only thing keeping me going now and I was getting to the finish line no matter what.

A bit before Roebuck Hill I met our very own gaaboard member An Gaeilgoir who was also in obvious pain. It was great to meet someone you know even if it had been nearly 7 years since the last time I met him.We walked up Roebuck Hill together pass the Gooch Cooper who was handing out bottles of Lucozade. I was feeling a bit better than An Gaeilgoir at this stage and we shook hands wished each other luck and I went off jogging again. There is a picture of myself and An Gaeilgoir on one of the marathon picture sites and we look anything but healthy.

I continued my run/walk strategy until I got to the 800mts to go mark. I was really in excruciating pain at this stage and my legs were cramping every few minutes.

So 800 mts to go and that's when the fun really started in my maiden Marathon.Everything that came before was minor to what was about to happen in the last stretch of the race before the finish line...

Just as I got to the 800mts mark I high fived Des Bishop..he nearly broke me hand!I could hear the roar of the crowd and I was nearly sprinting now. I could see the finish line in the distance and the adrenalin was pumping now and then out of nowhere.... BANG...both legs gone..only 400mts to go....

I held on to some poor devil at a row of red and white bollards and only for him I would have been flat on my face on the ground.
Next thing I knew a steward in a yellow Dublin Marathon jacket was standing there and told me to lie on the ground and he worked my legs till the cramp went. I'll be eternally grateful to this man. I'm fairly sure I never thanked him at the time and I feel really bad about that.
As I was on my back I heard someone shouting my name. I looked up to see my brother at the barrier beside me screaming at me that the finish line was just there and I would make it.

I managed to get up and I just starting running. I dunno where I got the energy from.My brother had started running beside me at the other side of the barrier and he was shouting encouragement to me and I think some of the crowd were joining in as it felt like everyone was shouting my name.

As I got to about 200mts to go I saw him...
There he was with his gorgeous smiling little face and my wife running along holding him. It was my son Eoghan.
I gave them the thumbs up and made one last dash for the line and finished in 4:59.30
I had done it... I had finished the Marathon.

I leaned against the barrier before I collected my medal and to be honest I was close to tears. The enormity of the whole thing and why I was doing it just overcame me. A steward came over to me and asked me was I ok and when he saw the head on me he sort of backed away with an expression of I really don't want to be dealing with this weirdo!

I gathered myself together and told myself to cop on! I collected my medal and t shirt and made my way through the hundreds of other runners.. Honestly it was like a scene from The Walking Dead! There was people everywhere just lying on the ground and plenty of groans of pain as people tried to get up or simply try to walk!

I have to say and I know I give out about them an awful lot on here but the people of Dublin were absolutely bloody fantastic.
The support every runner got was amazing. I have never seen the likes of it before. The cheering and clapping and handing out jellies and mars bars etc it all keeps you going when you feel you can't go on anymore. I can't talk highly enough about the support.The homemade signs I saw were brilliant.
'Chuck Norris never ran a Marathon' made me laugh. There was another one 'I know a shortcut' I must have seen this 5 times. I dunno was it the same guy but if it was he went around the course quicker than I did!

The atmosphere in the last 800mts will live with me for a long time. It's the closest I'll ever get to feeling like a sportstar.
The roar was deafening as you turned onto Mount street. It was fantastic.

In summary.
It was the hardest most excruciating painful and emotionally draining but also one of the greatest experiences of my life.
Would I do it all again? Without a shadow of a doubt. I'm already looking forward to next year.

Muppet,Magpie Seanie,Midlouth or anyone else reading this. If you have a wish to do a Marathon then just do it.I promise you won't regret it. Believe me, if I can do it anyone can. I could not run for more than 30 seconds 15 months ago and I was 2 stone heavier than I am now. And while I know I went through serious pain and my time was on the slow to very slow side,as Bingo texted me monday night I now have a PB  time in the Marathon go and beat it next year.!

Thanks to everyone on here for the advice and good wishes. I'm not sure I would have kept the running going in the early stages of my couch to 5k program without this thread.
I have now gone from couch to Marathon and as I said if I can do it anyone can.


Now,what are these Ultra Marathons all about.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on October 30, 2014, 04:32:40 PM
Great read that, well done laoislad fair play to you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 30, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
i made the mistake of changing runners in the middle of training for DM. Was a disaster for me! I'm gonna stick to what i .know from now on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
Cheers for the comments on the race report, always enjoy putting them together as a great way of capturing the day.

Been on the go most of the day, so going to read the other reports etc this evening...looking forward to it.

As aside, read these on boards.ie and seems to capture what happened for a lot on the day, so I'll share it here:

"Originally Posted by PVincent View Post

I wasn't running on Monday but was involved in stewarding in the last couple of 100 yards. I take my hat off to each and everyone who finished on Monday. It was not a pretty picture and rarely have I seen so many experienced club runners in such difficulty.

What faced you on Monday at 9am , was a freak in our weather. 17 degrees at 9am is even rare in summer, and the killer was not the wind but the humidity which from some reports was in excess of 85%.

For some of the inexperienced I am certain that a vast amount of them were overdressed with layers.

In the humidity , excessive sweating occurs, and so despite what appeared to be ok conditions , the faster club runners would have been very quickly soaked in sweat , unlike in normal conditions , you might take a few miles to get warm. In fact in Dublin more often than not , a lot will keep an extra top on, gloves and maybe even a hat, for the first few miles. Monday was not like that and no amount of prep would have attuned the body for that eventuality.

So excessive sweating will lead to a loss of minerals , in particular salt, and you can drink all the water you like , and take lucozade sport and gels, but that won't replace salt. When you lose that from the body , it makes you very prone to cramping . The minerals help to regulate the water retention in your body so with nothing there all that water just goes straight in and out again in sweat. So you also get dehydrated quicker. Taking salt tablets is certainly one way of counteracting the effect but not sure how many would have them in the back pocket. ( there must be someone on the forum who has experience in conditions like this and taken stuff to help)

So I am certain this is why so many were in difficulty so early on . The rumour is that about 2000 people DNF which is an astounding stat . But it was nothing to do with the course , it was all to do with the freak weather.

So massive kudos to those who got it done, even better if you managed a PB , but to those who struggled in the conditions, it was just bad luck that the weather played a tough part in the race, and as we have said to our own club runners , don't spend too much time analysing it , because it is highly unlikely that you will ever get similar conditions in Dublin in late October ( I hope) .

Just my own views"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 04:58:16 PM
Well done again Laoislad and thanks for the report. I was waiting for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2014, 04:59:31 PM
Brillant read LL, the Tae was spat out on the Monaghan area's bit, brillant.

Summed up the day perfectly - the build up, the crowds, the friendship with the other runners, the finish, the determination, the emotion. I near welled up with your finishing story....nearly. Brad Pitt to play LL in the movie.  ;)

One thing I picked up and could be related to the cramps - the amount of pishing you where doing before hand. Did you drink a lot on the morning of the race/night before? By sounds of it you never had those problems before. On the morning of a run, you'd find a lot of more experienced runners would tell you to actually drink very little. You could have flushed yourself out and then combined with the heat on the day, it really hit you hard. The boards post above would perhaps explain this better.

But regards, well done.

Berlin next September as a warm up for Dublin?  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Guys - am due a new pair of runners. Have been wearing Asics Gel Virage without issue. I love them. Looking them up on the web it says they are designed for moderate overpronators and have a lot of support. My ankles wouldn't be the best from multiple sprains etc over the years playing gaelic football and soccer so the support is welcome. Not sure about the overpronation though. Where can I get a gait analysis done and is it necessary? Am I overthinking this - should I just stick with the brand that I have happily used before? Also, am heading to the the US in about 6 weeks so would it be better to hold off and buy new the new wheels over there?

A lot would say that the Gait analysis is over hyped or talked about.

In saying that, I was having problems with my feet in first year of running. Was told I was a moderate overpronator. Picked up a pair of Aiscs GT2000's for long distance running. Never had a problem since. On my 3rd pair of the 2000's and on my 2nd pair of 1000's which I rotate - 2000's for longer distances, 1000's up to half marathon distance.

If you in Dublin at weekends, try the Amphibian King store in Ashtown near Phoenix Park. Very good and won't just sell you the dearest brand. Better again, get the analysis done and then buy them in the states! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2014, 05:37:54 PM
If what you know works for you don't change it.

There are many schools of thought on the gait stuff so the more you read the more you will pickle your head. 

If your trainers work stick with them. ~500 miles per pair and like Bingo says maybe try and rotate with 2 pairs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 30, 2014, 06:20:58 PM
Great read LL.

Especially this bit:

QuoteNow,what are these Ultra Marathons all about.....

Jebus!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on October 30, 2014, 06:38:45 PM
Great reading there lads, sounds like it was a hard day at the office. It's actually better for us at the lower end of the scale to hear about the tales of woe as its a bit of comfort to know that even the best trained guys suffer too.

I'm slowly but surely getting back into it. Ran a 10 miler a few weeks ago that nearly killed me, purely because I hadn't trained for it. Still managed to get round fairly unscathed so done the confidence a bit of good.

Still can't shrug off the core injury that I picked up nearly 18 months ago but resting up was doing my weight no good so back on the roads but at a lot slower pace until I get the stamina built back up and shed a few pounds. Then I'll worry a bit more about pace.

I bought a pair of the asics 2000 a few months back but every time I've worn them it feels like my feet are on fire? They're a nice feet and for a few k they're ok but then it's like running on hot coals and I actually have to stop and take them off. Waste of fecking money. I'm in NYC  feb so I'll try and pick up a few different pairs and see what suits.

Just to finish, well done again to the marathoners. Like some of the other lads, yis are making me think silly things. So silly that I've tried to recruit a few of running pals for Dublin '15. Let's see...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 30, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Guys - am due a new pair of runners. Have been wearing Asics Gel Virage without issue. I love them. Looking them up on the web it says they are designed for moderate overpronators and have a lot of support. My ankles wouldn't be the best from multiple sprains etc over the years playing gaelic football and soccer so the support is welcome. Not sure about the overpronation though. Where can I get a gait analysis done and is it necessary? Am I overthinking this - should I just stick with the brand that I have happily used before? Also, am heading to the the US in about 6 weeks so would it be better to hold off and buy new the new wheels over there?

So you have been wearing shoes designed for overpronation without ever having been screened? You may not overpronate at all?

Anyway you can get screened in minutes at amphipian king. Some Evelry stores do it too but don t know what quality is like. Mind you I got myself screened again last spring and told I was overpronating. I expressed surprise because I was screened normal in the past. Anyway it was double checked and  turned out that they got the film confused with the screening my missus had done before me, so mistakes can happen.
As regards runners I ve used several types over last 5-6 years. Sometimes using different ones from day to day with no ill effect. If you get used to a particular runner you ll probably think it s great but there may be others would suit you better/just as well.
In the last few years I ve worn Pearl Izumi, Brooks, Adidas, Saucony, Mizumo, Asics and Nike.The Asics were the only ones I didn t like.

I ve ran the last 3 DMs in 3 different makes of runner Adidas, Saucony and the last one in Nike Lunarglide 5.
Anyway back on the road just there. Got 6 miles done and moving parts back working again
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 30, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Guys - am due a new pair of runners. Have been wearing Asics Gel Virage without issue. I love them. Looking them up on the web it says they are designed for moderate overpronators and have a lot of support. My ankles wouldn't be the best from multiple sprains etc over the years playing gaelic football and soccer so the support is welcome. Not sure about the overpronation though. Where can I get a gait analysis done and is it necessary? Am I overthinking this - should I just stick with the brand that I have happily used before? Also, am heading to the the US in about 6 weeks so would it be better to hold off and buy new the new wheels over there?

So you have been wearing shoes designed for overpronation without ever having been screened? You may not overpronate at all?

Anyway you can get screened in minutes at amphipian king. Some Evelry stores do it too but don t know what quality is like. Mind you I got myself screened again last spring and told I was overpronating. I expressed surprise because I was screened normal in the past. Anyway it was double checked and  turned out that they got the film confused with the screening my missus had done before me, so mistakes can happen.
As regards runners I ve used several types over last 5-6 years. Sometimes using different ones from day to day with no ill effect. If you get used to a particular runner you ll probably think it s great but there may be others would suit you better/just as well.
In the last few years I ve worn Pearl Izumi, Brooks, Adidas, Saucony, Mizumo, Asics and Nike.The Asics were the only ones I didn t like.

I ve ran the last 3 DMs in 3 different makes of runner Adidas, Saucony and the last one in Nike Lunarglide 5.
Anyway back on the road just there. Got 6 miles done and moving parts back working again

Yeah. When I bought them I was just getting started from literally never doing any running at all. Saw this pair of Asics at a good price and got them.

Thanks for the replies, food for thought.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2014, 01:53:31 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 30, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Guys - am due a new pair of runners. Have been wearing Asics Gel Virage without issue. I love them. Looking them up on the web it says they are designed for moderate overpronators and have a lot of support. My ankles wouldn't be the best from multiple sprains etc over the years playing gaelic football and soccer so the support is welcome. Not sure about the overpronation though. Where can I get a gait analysis done and is it necessary? Am I overthinking this - should I just stick with the brand that I have happily used before? Also, am heading to the the US in about 6 weeks so would it be better to hold off and buy new the new wheels over there?

So you have been wearing shoes designed for overpronation without ever having been screened? You may not overpronate at all?

Anyway you can get screened in minutes at amphipian king. Some Evelry stores do it too but don t know what quality is like. Mind you I got myself screened again last spring and told I was overpronating. I expressed surprise because I was screened normal in the past. Anyway it was double checked and  turned out that they got the film confused with the screening my missus had done before me, so mistakes can happen.
As regards runners I ve used several types over last 5-6 years. Sometimes using different ones from day to day with no ill effect. If you get used to a particular runner you ll probably think it s great but there may be others would suit you better/just as well.
In the last few years I ve worn Pearl Izumi, Brooks, Adidas, Saucony, Mizumo, Asics and Nike.The Asics were the only ones I didn t like.

I ve ran the last 3 DMs in 3 different makes of runner Adidas, Saucony and the last one in Nike Lunarglide 5.
Anyway back on the road just there. Got 6 miles done and moving parts back working again

Yeah. When I bought them I was just getting started from literally never doing any running at all. Saw this pair of Asics at a good price and got them.

Thanks for the replies, food for thought.

Might be harsh, but Asics are the VW Golf of runners. Sound but nothing special. If they were at a good price it is possibly because they were for a particular type of runner (pronator) and hard to move on. Most runners are normal but sometimes it seems ( possible not any more) that small independent shops were loaded with support runners at reduced rates. Normal runners ended up in unsuitable runners that caused issues in knees etc. because they were getting a cheaper runner.  Also pronating runners were using normal runners when they needed support. You may have been lucky and got a runner that suited you!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 31, 2014, 08:43:07 AM
Re running shoes : I would be very wary of listening to some buck in elverys ect. No more "gait analysis" that I'm shep the dog. Podiatry has a fair bit more in it than that. Had a lecture from the Chelsea podiatrist yesterday, serious operator.
Running shoe manufacture is a multi billion euro industry so obviously it's in their interests to peddle different types of shoes but research is showing that any pronation control from a runner is tiny, force you put through your foot during contact with the ground is much higher than what a shoe can control. Pronation is a vital part of gait so unless yours is completely gross, ie..arch collapsing hugely and medial side of your ankle is nearly touching the ground then you'll be fine in whatever shoe you find comfortable. Watched slow motion analysis of top African marathon runners...ankles all over the shop but hey that's how they ran and were functional with no issues, no need to mess with them.
I'm in the Asics GT2000s...standard middle of road support and cushioning shoe but plenty others of similar ilk.

Savage reports lads. Mighty stuff...was like mission control with the amount of screens I had open tracking people!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 04:29:02 PM
Half marathon in Clontarf at end of month Muppet.
Thinking of doing it myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 02, 2014, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 04:29:02 PM
Half marathon in Clontarf at end of month Muppet.
Thinking of doing it myself.

I did their 5 mile earlier in the year and enjoyed it. If I am off from work I hope to do it. Won't know about work for a week or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 04:29:02 PM
Half marathon in Clontarf at end of month Muppet.
Thinking of doing it myself.

Might take you 2.30 hours though ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
I bought a Garmin 610 off eBay today for €88.
They're selling for over €200 here still.
Anyone got one? I'm guessing all Garmins are pretty much decent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
Feckin hell BM that's some time. Is that a PB?

MiltownRow is always challenging lads to races on here maybe he should race you  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
Feckin hell BM that's some time. Is that a PB?

MiltownRow is always challenging lads to races on here maybe he should race you  ;D

Haven't challenged anyone. I've still to beat my official 20min 5k yet, have done it as part of a 10k race but I'll get there  ;) BM would beat most on here. Only a bitta craic keep your knickers on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 03, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 10:31:28 AM
went for a 10 mile run on Saturday, a few miles more than I'd normally run and whilst the legs were sore, just purely fatigue, I've got an awful pain down the outside of my left foot, just below the ankle and would have trouble putting full weight on that foot.
There's a bit of bruising showing now as well, what would cause that? I'm blaming the camber of the roads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on November 04, 2014, 10:40:01 AM
I also went for my first ever 10 mile run on Saturday.  Building up the distances week on week.  I've entered the ballot for the Berlin marathon so hopefully I'm successful.

Has anyone done Edinburgh?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Have you got any ankle issues JC? Almost sounds like you twisted it or something? What are your trainers like?

MB I know a few who have done Edinburgh and speak very highly of it. Supposed to be a very fast course (fastest in UK).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 12:11:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Have you got any ankle issues JC? Almost sounds like you twisted it or something? What are your trainers like?

MB I know a few who have done Edinburgh and speak very highly of it. Supposed to be a very fast course (fastest in UK).


Ankles are the only thing to not have taken a battering over the years strangely enough.

I do get a numbness in my feet, but I always get that even back in the day, bad circulation and flat footed I was once told.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2014, 12:19:11 PM
What are your trainers like? They more run down on one shoe than the other? I wouldn't have thought camber on the road would cause that...

Numbness in feet usually attributed to sciatica type issues.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2014, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 03, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
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Its a good thing they don't run marathons in warmer countries
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
People will be prepared for warmer conditions there though through training and whatever gear they're wearing and in addition salt tablets and the like with humidity...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2014, 12:19:11 PM
What are your trainers like? They more run down on one shoe than the other? I wouldn't have thought camber on the road would cause that...

Numbness in feet usually attributed to sciatica type issues.

Trainers are pretty new, bought them in July and only use them for running. Not the most expensive in the shop granted, but I've done shorter runs up to 7.5M and no issues.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 10:31:28 AM
went for a 10 mile run on Saturday, a few miles more than I'd normally run and whilst the legs were sore, just purely fatigue, I've got an awful pain down the outside of my left foot, just below the ankle and would have trouble putting full weight on that foot.
There's a bit of bruising showing now as well, what would cause that? I'm blaming the camber of the roads.
Any low back pain recently?
Has the numbness been more regular recently or only since the run on Saturday? Any night pain?
Has it improved since Saturday at all?

Sound a bit of a nerve issue with the presence of numbness...peroneal nerve to be exact. Could be irritated proximally (your low back) or distally ( compression of muscle on side of your leg) if you had been running on camber the sloped to the left.
Bruising is basically bleeding in the tissue, so you could have torn some the tissue on the outside of the foot and ankle also...hard to be definite without looking at you obviously but see how you are getting on and maybe go see somebody in your area about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 12, 2014, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 02, 2014, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 02, 2014, 04:29:02 PM
Half marathon in Clontarf at end of month Muppet.
Thinking of doing it myself.

I did their 5 mile earlier in the year and enjoyed it. If I am off from work I hope to do it. Won't know about work for a week or so.

Off that day and have signed up for it.

Training has been terrible this month but it will have to improve rapido!

I did the distance a few weeks ago so I know I can do it. Off for a nice easy trot now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 12, 2014, 05:32:37 PM
I've signed up also but not sure if I'll make it yet due to work and probably won't know till the day before.
Have only ran once or twice since Marathon. Already starting to put weight back on  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 12, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Anyone doing the Run in the Dark tonight?  Weather turned miserable, haven't run 10k in a while, really not looking forward to this one bit.  Plus have to run up the hill to Stormont TWICE as part of it. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on November 12, 2014, 06:17:20 PM
Doing the Dublin one. Mild enough here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 12, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 12, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Anyone doing the Run in the Dark tonight?  Weather turned miserable, haven't run 10k in a while, really not looking forward to this one bit.  Plus have to run up the hill to Stormont TWICE as part of it.

Good luck Rois! That hill is tough! Heard there's a big crowd expected
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 13, 2014, 09:02:13 AM
Hill was very tough but at least it was at 1k and 6k - if it was at 9k or 10k I'd have felt a lot different finishing!

Apparently over 1400 at it in Belfast, about 800 doing the 10k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 13, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Anyone doing the Podium 10k in Belfast next weekend? I'm doing it but have been very slack since August, not anticipating any pb's.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Anyone doing the Podium 10k in Belfast next weekend? I'm doing it but have been very slack since August, not anticipating any pb's.

What day, Sat or Sunday? haven't done a lot of running over that distance lately since I've been away, 3 miles tops at a time so wouldn't expect a pb either
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 13, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
Saturday - 2:30 - Ormeau Park
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on November 13, 2014, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Anyone doing the Podium 10k in Belfast next weekend? I'm doing it but have been very slack since August, not anticipating any pb's.

Two weeks this Saturday LF till the Seeley Cup.  I've entered and have a target in mind, if I reach it I'll allow myself a few pints at the Xmas Market afterwards! Course isn't as flat as you'd think but it was a really enjoyable race last year. That hill in Castleward must have knocked you back a bit!

You should get yourself to The Griddle 10k on Sunday to see how you're fixed. Never done it myself but it's supposed to be the stuff of nightmares!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 14, 2014, 07:36:36 AM
Quote from: No1 on November 13, 2014, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2014, 03:39:05 PM
Anyone doing the Podium 10k in Belfast next weekend? I'm doing it but have been very slack since August, not anticipating any pb's.

Two weeks this Saturday LF till the Seeley Cup.  I've entered and have a target in mind, if I reach it I'll allow myself a few pints at the Xmas Market afterwards! Course isn't as flat as you'd think but it was a really enjoyable race last year. That hill in Castleward must have knocked you back a bit!

You should get yourself to The Griddle 10k on Sunday to see how you're fixed. Never done it myself but it's supposed to be the stuff of nightmares!

Jaysus your right - great stuff I have an extra week!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 14, 2014, 09:36:14 AM
Giving the Poppintree Park Run a shot tomorrow. Not sure where I will be time wised but hopeful I'll do something decent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 14, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 14, 2014, 09:36:14 AM
Giving the Poppintree Park Run a shot tomorrow. Not sure where I will be time wised but hopeful I'll do something decent.
Fair play you'll be grand.
Going to do one myself tomorrow. Either Lucan or Marlay park haven't decided yet.
Going on beer to watch match tonight so I won't be expecting any great times myself tomorrow.!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on November 14, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
When you lads trained for the marathon, when you were doing say your 17/20 mile runs did you do one one long run or or say 2 laps of 8/10mile if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 14, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
I tried not to do laps/loops as much as I could.
It's hard finding a 20mile route where you don't double back on yourself at some stage though.
I often even just ran on the other side of the road coming back just to take the monotony out of it.
The problem I found also is I often miscalculated the route and still had a mile or two left to get home after the distance I intended to do was complete.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 14, 2014, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on November 14, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
When you lads trained for the marathon, when you were doing say your 17/20 mile runs did you do one one long run or or say 2 laps of 8/10mile if you know what i mean.
I always lapped or did figure 8s or clovers with a central point where I'd leave water, gels, bananas etc. it always gave me something to look forward to and I hate carrying things when I'm running. Took a bit more planning on gbmapometer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
26:04 by my watch for the Poppintree parkrun. 2 seconds outside my pb. Thought I would nip under 26 but not to be. Improving but a long way to go to take 1:05 off that.

Lovely flat course. Well marshalled.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 15, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
Good stuff ms. Keep at it and that time will come down no bother. The park runs are fantastic.
Banging hangover for me this morning so didn't bother going  to my local one myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on November 15, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
what distances should you start taking gels or drinks etc during a run, ive only ran ten ks and only took a few sips of water, im doing eight miles now which i hope to build on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2014, 01:39:42 PM
I would have said it's more time based charlie. An hour and a half i think is a good barometer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2014, 01:45:03 PM
Guys - you know these race calculators which tell you what time you should be able to do based on a time you have done - are they realistic? Not sure myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 15, 2014, 01:48:06 PM
Predicting a marathon time based on a 5K time is probably not going to be that accurate. Predicting a 10 mile race time based on a 10K is probably going to be close.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 15, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
what distances should you start taking gels or drinks etc during a run, ive only ran ten ks and only took a few sips of water, im doing eight miles now which i hope to build on?

Any distance over half marathon you'd take gels, prefer sweets myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 15, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 15, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
what distances should you start taking gels or drinks etc during a run, ive only ran ten ks and only took a few sips of water, im doing eight miles now which i hope to build on?

Any distance over half marathon you'd take gels, prefer sweets myself
Did u Tollymore today MR? One of those half marathons I'm told feels more like 16! Slowly recovering from injury myself. Might look to Seeley cup to see how the ankle is.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
Didn't go. I'm away in England work till March. Home weekends so cant really do much. Bit disappointed as friends all done it and loved it ffs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 16, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 15, 2014, 01:45:03 PM
Guys - you know these race calculators which tell you what time you should be able to do based on a time you have done - are they realistic? Not sure myself.

McMillan is accurate except for the Marathon I found.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 16, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 15, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
26:04 by my watch for the Poppintree parkrun. 2 seconds outside my pb. Thought I would nip under 26 but not to be. Improving but a long way to go to take 1:05 off that.

Lovely flat course. Well marshalled.

Flat, might check that out when I get a chance. Malahide is nice but a couple of small hills, particularly up to the finish. St. Annes has only one little hill but it knocks you out of your stride the second time over it.

The 25 mins will come quicker than you think. And then you will immediately be thinking 24!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 17, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
What time you aiming for Muppet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Aye, sounds like a reasonable plan. Even a 7 on Wednesday this week, 4 or 5 on Thursday/Friday, Saturday Off and an 11-12 on Sunday.

Rest on the Monday, 6 Tuesday, 5 Wednesday, 4 Thursday and Off the Friday the day before.
Very broad outline there with no idea of pacing obviously!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?

At least the warm weather won't cause any hassle for you lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Aye, sounds like a reasonable plan. Even a 7 on Wednesday this week, 4 or 5 on Thursday/Friday, Saturday Off and an 11-12 on Sunday.

Rest on the Monday, 6 Tuesday, 5 Wednesday, 4 Thursday and Off the Friday the day before.
Very broad outline there with no idea of pacing obviously!

Cheers, all of that might be a little too much for me. I'll do as you say this week. Sunday will be the day after the rugby so there is as much chance of me coming on for Mike Ross on Saturday as there is of me doing 11-12 miles on Sunday.  :D

I might run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday then 2 days off maybe?

Pacing will be along the lines of my currents runs. i.e. I have absolutely no idea what will happen until I get to about 5k, then the legs let me know. I hope to be close to or break 2 hours though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 17, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Aye, sounds like a reasonable plan. Even a 7 on Wednesday this week, 4 or 5 on Thursday/Friday, Saturday Off and an 11-12 on Sunday.

Rest on the Monday, 6 Tuesday, 5 Wednesday, 4 Thursday and Off the Friday the day before.
Very broad outline there with no idea of pacing obviously!
Cheers, all of that might be a little too much for me. I'll do as you say this week. Sunday will be the day after the rugby so there is as much chance of me coming on for Mike Ross on Saturday as there is of me doing 11-12 miles on Sunday.  :D

I might run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday then 2 days off maybe?

Pacing will be along the lines of my currents runs. i.e. I have absolutely no idea what will happen until I get to about 5k, then the legs let me know. I hope to be close to or break 2 hours though.
Pretty sure they are going to have pacers at the race so might be handy for you if you want to break 2hrs to follow the 2hr pacer.
Still dunno if I am going to be able do it. Would love to as I hear it's very flat!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 09:18:59 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Aye, sounds like a reasonable plan. Even a 7 on Wednesday this week, 4 or 5 on Thursday/Friday, Saturday Off and an 11-12 on Sunday.

Rest on the Monday, 6 Tuesday, 5 Wednesday, 4 Thursday and Off the Friday the day before.
Very broad outline there with no idea of pacing obviously!

Cheers, all of that might be a little too much for me. I'll do as you say this week. Sunday will be the day after the rugby so there is as much chance of me coming on for Mike Ross on Saturday as there is of me doing 11-12 miles on Sunday.  :D

I might run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday then 2 days off maybe?

Pacing will be along the lines of my currents runs. i.e. I have absolutely no idea what will happen until I get to about 5k, then the legs let me know. I hope to be close to or break 2 hours though.
You know yourself and see how you are feeling after the weekend is the best way to gauge it so! No bother to ya!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 17, 2014, 09:37:34 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 17, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 17, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Anyone able to tell me what I should do this week and next week for my first half marathon (on the 29th Nov)? I haven't been following a plan as I didn't know if I would be doing it or not..

I did the distance a month ago and did a comfortable 10 miles on last Friday night. So I am thinking only 1 more run around 10 miles, say in the next few days and then a few short ones?

In particular what are the big no-nos that I should avoid?
Aye, sounds like a reasonable plan. Even a 7 on Wednesday this week, 4 or 5 on Thursday/Friday, Saturday Off and an 11-12 on Sunday.

Rest on the Monday, 6 Tuesday, 5 Wednesday, 4 Thursday and Off the Friday the day before.
Very broad outline there with no idea of pacing obviously!
Cheers, all of that might be a little too much for me. I'll do as you say this week. Sunday will be the day after the rugby so there is as much chance of me coming on for Mike Ross on Saturday as there is of me doing 11-12 miles on Sunday.  :D

I might run Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday then 2 days off maybe?

Pacing will be along the lines of my currents runs. i.e. I have absolutely no idea what will happen until I get to about 5k, then the legs let me know. I hope to be close to or break 2 hours though.
Pretty sure they are going to have pacers at the race so might be handy for you if you want to break 2hrs to follow the 2hr pacer.
Still dunno if I am going to be able do it. Would love to as I hear it's very flat!

The 5 mile is completely flat and the half just follows the coast out towards Howth before turning back so there are no hills there. I think some of the half may be along the beach so that might be a drag for a bit.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 18, 2014, 08:22:45 PM

The 1:50 crowd won t be hanging about at the start. You don t want to burn out the legs early and hanging in the last few miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 18, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Just don't start off at your 5k pace and you'll be fine !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 18, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 18, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Just don't start off at your 5k pace and you'll be fine !

You sorted for it yet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 18, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 18, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 18, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Just don't start off at your 5k pace and you'll be fine !

You sorted for it yet?
Dunno how I'm fixed yet.
Started a fairly big contract there last week and under a bit a pressure to get a certain amount done in November,so will have to see how I'm fixed on Friday week and how much I've done and if I need to work the Saturday of the race.
I've done feck all running this month though so I'm hoping the marathon training fitness is still there!
I've already put up 6lbs since the marathon finished.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
You'll be grand Muppet, half marathon is well within the distance of not fecking losing it. I stayed in front of the pacers I was using at Lisburn half and found I was getting stronger as the race unfolded.

As long as you have prepared (to a degree) you'll be grand and even surprise yourself. I found I was actually sprinting the last 2 miles (quickest miles I did whole race) and beat my pb by 5 odd minutes.

I got early to the event, did a half mile warm up with stretching and got in line early, the starting can be a feck up, too many people run off way to quick, if you have a Garmin/GPS watch then pace yourself early and you'll be grand, but be disciplined. and as Moysider said once you feel stronger kick on.

Need a fecking target myself, just too fecking busy

Good luck, half marathons suit me better with my wee legs!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
So it would appear I'm for Berlin next September for the marathon. Successful in the ballot entry.

There goes the no marathon plan in 2015  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on November 20, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
So it would appear I'm for Berlin next September for the marathon. Successful in the ballot entry.

There goes the no marathon plan in 2015  ;D

Myself and a friend have also been successful :)

Have you many marathons under the belt?  I've never done one before, but I intend to do at least one before then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 20, 2014, 03:04:41 PM
Regret not trying for Berlin.
Have entered Barcelona. March 15.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on November 20, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
So it would appear I'm for Berlin next September for the marathon. Successful in the ballot entry.

There goes the no marathon plan in 2015  ;D

Myself and a friend have also been successful :)

Have you many marathons under the belt?  I've never done one before, but I intend to do at least one before then.

I've 4 done in last 3 years, so a relative newbie. This will be first European marathon.

Most of the local lads who i'd run with are doing Paris in April but it doesn't suit me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 20, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on November 20, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
So it would appear I'm for Berlin next September for the marathon. Successful in the ballot entry.

There goes the no marathon plan in 2015  ;D

Myself and a friend have also been successful :)

Have you many marathons under the belt?  I've never done one before, but I intend to do at least one before then.

I've 4 done in last 3 years, so a relative newbie. This will be first European marathon.

Most of the local lads who i'd run with are doing Paris in April but it doesn't suit me.
Is Dublin not in Europe ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 20, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on November 20, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 20, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
So it would appear I'm for Berlin next September for the marathon. Successful in the ballot entry.

There goes the no marathon plan in 2015  ;D

Myself and a friend have also been successful :)

Have you many marathons under the belt?  I've never done one before, but I intend to do at least one before then.

I've 4 done in last 3 years, so a relative newbie. This will be first European marathon.

Most of the local lads who i'd run with are doing Paris in April but it doesn't suit me.
Is Dublin not in Europe ;)

I fail to recognise Ireland as part of Europe. They may have bought us but they'll never have me!  :-[  :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 22, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Three park run PBs on the trot! Finally managed it in under 20 minutes - never thought I'd ever be able to run that! Only took 12 months and 26 attempts! Well chuffed. Huge Chinese and a wee whiskey or two this evening!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 22, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: CD on November 22, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Three park run PBs on the trot! Finally managed it in under 20 minutes - never thought I'd ever be able to run that! Only took 12 months and 26 attempts! Well chuffed. Huge Chinese and a wee whiskey or two this evening!

Good man well done. Under 20 mins is a serious time.

Squeezed one in myself this morning and...sub 23m 5k. Don't know if that was wise with a half marathon next week but feck it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 22, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: CD on November 22, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Three park run PBs on the trot! Finally managed it in under 20 minutes - never thought I'd ever be able to run that! Only took 12 months and 26 attempts! Well chuffed. Huge Chinese and a wee whiskey or two this evening!

Good man well done. Under 20 mins is a serious time.

Squeezed one in myself this morning and...sub 23m 5k. Don't know if that was wise with a half marathon next week but feck it.
Well done to both of ye!
Sub 23 muppet...Jaysis! Not long since sub 25 seemed impossible,fair play to you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
24:55 5k. Still in shock. Went off waaaayyy too fast but knew I was on a time so ground it out, my legendary thickness coming to the fore. Cant believe it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 02:53:46 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
24:55 5k. Still in shock. Went off waaaayyy too fast but knew I was on a time so ground it out, my legendary thickness coming to the fore. Cant believe it.
Fecking hell magpie! I thought you just wanted to beat 26 mins!
That's some going fair play to you.

Some great times today lads well done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
Would have been happy with sub 26 today alright. Delighted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
Would have been happy with sub 26 today alright. Delighted.
Sub 24 next!
Getting jealous of ye all now! Will have to get back to doing park runs.!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 03:45:03 PM
Well done CD and Muppet, great times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 22, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
Fair play seanie, CD and Muppet. Great buzz.

Had a run at sub 40 today for 10km. Went through 5km in 19.05 but was constantly up and down, tough going. Long drag into a steady headwind, got to 8km with 8m 20s to spare but looked up and seen a long steady climb. Legs just couldn't attack it and dropped way off pace, got to top and it was 1km to got. The delightful steward says, well done lads 1km to go and it's all up hill!! And he didn't lie. Wasn't as bad as previous one but sub 40 was gone. Dug out a finish to clock 40.26. 9th place overall with one of lads from home who ran with me just ahead.

Calves in bits after it and after getting out of car....ouch. Grand now.

Not to be but 5km home race next week and will give it a big run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 22, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
Had the sister out doing her first 5k run ever today, she turned 40 yesterday and took up running 8 weeks ago, fair play to someone like that, and to boot she was flat out, u see lots that trot round, she busted herself to go under 30mins and finished in 28:27, absolutely delighted for her.
I did my first race since the marathon, went for a "coffee" after work yesterday, home at 2 in the morning, nearly puked running but held out and came in under 20, so a belly full of Guinness takes about a minute off ur time!

Great running Seanie
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 23, 2014, 12:15:52 AM
Are the Asics gt1000 a decent shoe? SportsDirect.com are having a 20% off list price sale so I can pick up a pair for about 40e.
Only want something to get me over winter and into spring as the runners I used all year for Marathon training are well and truly knackered now.
I've seen some of ye mention the gt2000 so I'm guessing the gt1000 are an older version?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
Quote from: CD on November 22, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Three park run PBs on the trot! Finally managed it in under 20 minutes - never thought I'd ever be able to run that! Only took 12 months and 26 attempts! Well chuffed. Huge Chinese and a wee whiskey or two this evening!

Brilliant CD. Which parkrun did you do?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 23, 2014, 12:23:09 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 22, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
24:55 5k. Still in shock. Went off waaaayyy too fast but knew I was on a time so ground it out, my legendary thickness coming to the fore. Cant believe it.

Well done Seanie, great time!

I'd say the last few hundred metres were tough, knowing you were on track.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 23, 2014, 12:32:17 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 22, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
Had the sister out doing her first 5k run ever today, she turned 40 yesterday and took up running 8 weeks ago, fair play to someone like that, and to boot she was flat out, u see lots that trot round, she busted herself to go under 30mins and finished in 28:27, absolutely delighted for her.
I did my first race since the marathon, went for a "coffee" after work yesterday, home at 2 in the morning, nearly puked running but held out and came in under 20, so a belly full of Guinness takes about a minute off ur time!

Great running Seanie

Fair play indeed. Fortunately a lot more people doing this. I d be embarrassed to say what age I was when I ran my first competitive 5k, etc.
I come from a time when you were finished in sport at 30 but thankfully that has changed.
Look at Paul O Connell. Closer to 40 than 30 and the best he s ever been.
Ageism is as big a blight out there as any other -ism. But it is more acceptable now maybe that older people can run etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 23, 2014, 07:38:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
Quote from: CD on November 22, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Three park run PBs on the trot! Finally managed it in under 20 minutes - never thought I'd ever be able to run that! Only took 12 months and 26 attempts! Well chuffed. Huge Chinese and a wee whiskey or two this evening!

Brilliant CD. Which parkrun did you do?
Queens MR. Some amount of lads setting great times on the board here and lots of regular runners at Queens setting great times too. Was a Perfect morning for running.
Well done seanie, muppet, bingo and mayo4sam!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 23, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
Great running lads...serious going!

Ya, LL, 1000s are decent. 2000s are bit more of a heavy duty version is all if you doing more mileage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 23, 2014, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 23, 2014, 12:15:52 AM
Are the Asics gt1000 a decent shoe? SportsDirect.com are having a 20% off list price sale so I can pick up a pair for about 40e.
Only want something to get me over winter and into spring as the runners I used all year for Marathon training are well and truly knackered now.
I've seen some of ye mention the gt2000 so I'm guessing the gt1000 are an older version?

Gt1000 would be a lighter, less cushioned shoe than the gt2000.

I'd have both, using the 1000 for runs up to 10-12 miles. But have used them on longer runs and not a bother. A good shoe. Great at that price.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Yesterday...
Brilliant to have it,will show the face at Christmas, Ardagh 5K stephenisis day too probably...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on November 24, 2014, 07:51:57 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 23, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
Great running lads...serious going!

Ya, LL, 1000s are decent. 2000s are bit more of a heavy duty version is all if you doing more mileage.

I can vouch for the 1000s too.  Haven't given me any bother after around 250 miles or so.  Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the difference between the v1 and v2s?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Yesterday...
Brilliant to have it,will show the face at Christmas, Ardagh 5K stephenisis day too probably...

I think you should stay in town stephens day, the Wild West is no place for a lad like yourself. Put the feet up, visit the relations.

Seriously, feck off!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Yesterday...
Brilliant to have it,will show the face at Christmas, Ardagh 5K stephenisis day too probably...

I think you should stay in town stephens day, the Wild West is no place for a lad like yourself. Put the feet up, visit the relations.

Seriously, feck off!
Ah ya can't ban me..10km on Stephens day in Ardagh was first race I ever did..13 yrs old in 52 mins..banjaxed so I was..still remember it.
Park run ballina on 20th,Ardagh on 26th and park run on 27th (hangover dependent)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 24, 2014, 06:09:54 PM
For anyone interested and in North East this weekend, we host our 5km this weekend in Castleblayney. Very decent course for a PB. Chip timed, good spread after it etc etc.

Starts at 2pm sharp on Sunday with registration online (check out runireland.com) for a tenner or on the day for €13.

I'm fed up winning the gaaboard prize every year, so some competition would be much appreciated!!  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2014, 10:34:49 PM
Muppet. Do you know what story is with collecting race numbers for Saturday?
I thought you would collect them on the day but I got an email saying something about they can be collected tomorrow.
That doesn't really suit me.
I actually thought they would be posted out but obviously not.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Yesterday...
Brilliant to have it,will show the face at Christmas, Ardagh 5K stephenisis day too probably...

I think you should stay in town stephens day, the Wild West is no place for a lad like yourself. Put the feet up, visit the relations.

Seriously, feck off!
Ah ya can't ban me..10km on Stephens day in Ardagh was first race I ever did..13 yrs old in 52 mins..banjaxed so I was..still remember it.
Park run ballina on 20th,Ardagh on 26th and park run on 27th (hangover dependent)

Is there a 5k in Ardagh the same day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 24, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2014, 10:34:49 PM
Muppet. Do you know what story is with collecting race numbers for Saturday?
I thought you would collect them on the day but I got an email saying something about they can be collected tomorrow.
That doesn't really suit me.
I actually thought they would be posted out but obviously not.

I think they can be collected on the day. I plan to pick on mine probably on thursday as I am away till then. I can pick up yours if you want? PM me the details if you prefer that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 24, 2014, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?
Yesterday...
Brilliant to have it,will show the face at Christmas, Ardagh 5K stephenisis day too probably...

I think you should stay in town stephens day, the Wild West is no place for a lad like yourself. Put the feet up, visit the relations.

Seriously, feck off!
Ah ya can't ban me..10km on Stephens day in Ardagh was first race I ever did..13 yrs old in 52 mins..banjaxed so I was..still remember it.
Park run ballina on 20th,Ardagh on 26th and park run on 27th (hangover dependent)

Is there a 5k in Ardagh the same day?
Stephens day is a Friday and parkrun will be on the Saturday I presume. Ardagh 5k ad on RunMayoRun.com
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2014, 12:26:07 AM
Thanks muppet I'll let you know before Thursday. Still dunno if I'm doing it or not yet.. >:(
If i do I'm just gonna go with 2hr pacers and try and hang on at the end. I've done nothing in the way of running this month.
I reckon you'll be closer to 1:50 than 2hr. You're flying it at the moment setting new PB's!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 25, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?

Yeah. Nice run. 
Hope to do a couple over the Christmas.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 25, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
If there's a 5k and a 10k in Ardagh I'll allow it BM (we all know Ardagh is really just an extension of the parish of backs). Might even give you a lift out since I'll be passin
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2014, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?
iPod shuffle
GPS watch
Voucher for Elvery's
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 25, 2014, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 24, 2014, 12:19:37 AM
When did the PR start in Ballina Moysider?
Belleek by the looks of it?

Yeah. Nice run. 
Hope to do a couple over the Christmas.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?

Base layers are a great one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 25, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?

Base layers are a great one.
True, I've been feeling guilty though about wearing them recently though.
Listened to a podcast and some famous runner from the 60's was talking about them, his name escapes me but the crux of it....back in our day we had no fancy top to keep warm..we had to run faster to keep warm... ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 25, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?

Base layers are a great one.
True, I've been feeling guilty though about wearing them recently though.
Listened to a podcast and some famous runner from the 60's was talking about them, his name escapes me but the crux of it....back in our day we had no fancy top to keep warm..we had to run faster to keep warm... ;D

A few years ago I wore the helly hansen one and ran in -13 degrees... you'd not be doing that on this day or any other without the base layer!!

(There were no such things as hamstrings in those days either or so I'm told....)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 25, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 25, 2014, 12:26:07 AM
Thanks muppet I'll let you know before Thursday. Still dunno if I'm doing it or not yet.. >:(
If i do I'm just gonna go with 2hr pacers and try and hang on at the end. I've done nothing in the way of running this month.
I reckon you'll be closer to 1:50 than 2hr. You're flying it at the moment setting new PB's!

I'll take the good advice on here and stay away from the 1:50 pacers. Too quick for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 25, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 25, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Christmas is coming and any ideas for a present for an enthusiastic but not necessarily a dedicated runner?

Base layers are a great one.
True, I've been feeling guilty though about wearing them recently though.
Listened to a podcast and some famous runner from the 60's was talking about them, his name escapes me but the crux of it....back in our day we had no fancy top to keep warm..we had to run faster to keep warm... ;D

A few years ago I wore the helly hansen one and ran in -13 degrees... you'd not be doing that on this day or any other without the base layer!!

(There were no such things as hamstrings in those days either or so I'm told....)
I'd say so...the long slow run in those days probably wasn't invented either so hence running fast all the time. You need a layer for the slow ones I say.
Haha....another classic I heard was, I can't play the match ...I've a sore throat....
Manager :I'm not asking you to sing....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2014, 11:07:41 PM
Have been wearing the base layers and the 'men's running leggings' for ages,  :o felt odd first time lol, but seriously (for this country) it's the way to go to keep running throughout the winter months
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on November 25, 2014, 11:33:17 PM
Ardagh is on 28th December
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 26, 2014, 12:29:05 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 25, 2014, 11:33:17 PM
Ardagh is on 28th December
Think that's Longford Ardagh...
Ardagh in the north mayo triangle of football is 26th
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
Can't wear those base layers at all. Grand for first mile or two but then all I feel like doing is taking them off as I'm too warm wearing them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 26, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
I don't mind wearing a top, in fact if it's a long slow run a good warm top is needed on days like today. Have never tried the leggings and probably won't.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 26, 2014, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 26, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
I don't mind wearing a top, in fact if it's a long slow run a good warm top is needed on days like today. Have never tried the leggings and probably won't.
Agreed, don't think I could ever go for the leggins either...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzzkwqyyLk1r969bpo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2014, 01:00:35 PM
Have to admit to wearing the leggings in the past but can't remember the last time I used them. Haven't this year and only used them the odd time last winter when it was very cold and a longer run was planned or was heading up a hill/mountain.

Nothing wrong with them really and if in a group, you'll not stand out. If they serve a purpose fair enough, why not use them.

Plus your arse looks cracking in them  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
Easy to tell who has the cushy office jobs and who is used to the cold from working outside a lot!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 26, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
Easy to tell who has the cushy office jobs and who is used to the cold from working outside a lot!

In our 19th century building? I went outside there at lunchtime to warm up!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 26, 2014, 11:59:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 26, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
Can't wear those base layers at all. Grand for first mile or two but then all I feel like doing is taking them off as I'm too warm wearing them.

Agree. Feel like I m wrapped in cling film when I warm up. I m a sweater and I prefer a long sleeved running top and gloves in cold conditions. I hardly ever bother with leggings. No issue with them though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2014, 09:59:22 AM
Inspirational story right here. Live life to the full.

http://fbshare.sfglobe.com/2014/11/24/coach-catches-teenage-runner-with-multiple-sclerosis-during-every-race/?src=share_fb_new_20016 (http://fbshare.sfglobe.com/2014/11/24/coach-catches-teenage-runner-with-multiple-sclerosis-during-every-race/?src=share_fb_new_20016)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 27, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 27, 2014, 09:59:22 AM
Inspirational story right here. Live life to the full.

http://fbshare.sfglobe.com/2014/11/24/coach-catches-teenage-runner-with-multiple-sclerosis-during-every-race/?src=share_fb_new_20016 (http://fbshare.sfglobe.com/2014/11/24/coach-catches-teenage-runner-with-multiple-sclerosis-during-every-race/?src=share_fb_new_20016)
Saw that this morning...unbelievable stuff!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 27, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Something that i am involved in putting together;

We are a local group setting up a new sporting event (The great lakes challenge Series).It is a unique series of running/walking races open to all abilities to take place in Co. Mayo and Co. Galway in 2015.

In each of these events there will be a recording of peoples' best 1km time over each event leading for the person with the fastest 1km time over the five events winning the overall prize.  Mayo/ Roscommon Hospice, Mayo Sports Partnership, Run Ireland and several local businesses are coming on board with us.

The dates for the series are as follows;

Dates                           Venue                           Distance
22nd February            Tourmakeady                 8k  (Through the Tourmakeady woods and around the waterfall, a stunning route).
1st March                    Clonbur                       10k
7th March                    Carnacon                    10k
21st March                  Claremorris                 10k
18th April                     Ballinrobe                   10k

you can find us on facebook (great lakes challenge series) or register on runireland.com. Reduced price and a technical t-shirt if you book all five events.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 27, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
Great idea, good luck with it.

I might try to get down for one or two.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2014, 04:14:37 PM
Good stuff and seems like a decent idea. Are they all trail runs round lakes/forest parks or are they road races?

Your dates are fairly close together. Good for getting it out of the way and not clogging up the calendar with other events but might rule out the social/beginner runner who might be fearful of committing to it all. depends on the target audience though.

Out of interest, how is the fastest 1km time been recorded? Is their a timing mat at each 1km marker?

Would like to see that locally at that time of the year. Any franchises going for the North East?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 27, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
The Tourmakeady, Claremorris and Ballinrobe races will be trail runs, we are chip timing all the races, and each race picks what kilometer they want to time, it will be done using the chip as well. It is like a race within a race, we are hoping to add a few more catagories to the 1k section, most improved time, fastest average over the five races and so on. We specifically chose to run the events off quickly, keeps the interest up and a lot of other events will be going on March/April time too. The local radio and papers are putting together weekly training programmes and we are also hoping to tie into operation transformation groups around the area. Launch will be early Janurary in Claremorris, we are hoping to get a few football/soccer/rugby/ celebrity heads out to set some 1k times. Willie Joe Padden and John Maughan have already committed to it. Should be good craic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2014, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on November 27, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
The Tourmakeady, Claremorris and Ballinrobe races will be trail runs, we are chip timing all the races, and each race picks what kilometer they want to time, it will be done using the chip as well. It is like a race within a race, we are hoping to add a few more catagories to the 1k section, most improved time, fastest average over the five races and so on. We specifically chose to run the events off quickly, keeps the interest up and a lot of other events will be going on March/April time too. The local radio and papers are putting together weekly training programmes and we are also hoping to tie into operation transformation groups around the area. Launch will be early Janurary in Claremorris, we are hoping to get a few football/soccer/rugby/ celebrity heads out to set some 1k times. Willie Joe Padden and John Maughan have already committed to it. Should be good craic.

Fair play and that makes sense. I'm sure you's have put a lot of work and thought into it, so don't mind me silly questions  ;) Race in a race is a good novelty idea and keeps the interest for everyone.

Best of look with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 28, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
Best of luck tomorrow Muppet.
Not going to make it myself as I have too much work to finish.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 28, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: laoislad on November 28, 2014, 11:04:19 AM
Best of luck tomorrow Muppet.
Not going to make it myself as I have too much work to finish.

Cheers.

Weather forecast looks good so no excuses. I must say I am enjoying this tapering lark.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 28, 2014, 02:32:14 PM
Flooding on the route!

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 28, 2014, 03:48:01 PM
Meant to say if anyone wants to use my race number tomorrow send me a pm. I haven't collected it yet but you could collect it tomorrow yourself and I'll send you on my details.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 28, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
Jeeze, that the sand road down to dollymount muppet with the elevated walkway to the right? Bumpy enough at the best of times!

I'm going to give 17 a crack in a park run tomorrow...have a few sharp turns and a hairpin turn to navigate 3 times so it won't be easy. It's a 3 lap course so last lap you're lapping people and it can be hard sometimes to get a clean run at it. 17.12 six weeks ago and came back 2 weeks later and went out too hard and paid for it big time and came in 17.13 struggling. Fierce hard to take time off short races. No room for error whatsoever....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Best way to take time off is lightweight racing shoes but guessing you have those already!

parkrun too early in the morning for fast stuff...

Good luck muppet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 28, 2014, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Best way to take time off is lightweight racing shoes but guessing you have those already!

parkrun too early in the morning for fast stuff...

Good luck muppet.

Cheers.

Ballinaman I reckon I couldn't finish 1k at the pace you are doing 5ks!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 28, 2014, 04:51:35 PM
Good luck muppet, no bother to ya..it'll be tough but it'll be worth it!
Good stuff tommy, you tipping under 17 these days?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:07:22 PM
Well Muppet how did you get on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2014, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:07:22 PM
Well Muppet how did you get on?

Broke 1:50!

There was a long time on the sand which was a bit different for me. It sloped slightly towards the sea and loads runners seemed to drift with the slope towards the wet sand which didn't look good for running. I stayed high on the sand, even if it mean running on my own for while but I got a decent surface to run on.

Full of running at the end as well. I obviously didn't know what to expect so the fact that I seemed to pace it right was a bit of a fluke. Also, it was quite tight at times (no road closures) so that probably stopped me from overdoing it early on.

Very happy with it though. Pity you couldn't make it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 29, 2014, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:07:22 PM
Well Muppet how did you get on?

Broke 1:50!

There was a long time on the sand which was a bit different for me. It sloped slightly towards the sea and loads runners seemed to drift with the slope towards the wet sand which didn't look good for running. I stayed high on the sand, even if it mean running on my own for while but I got a decent surface to run on.

Full of running at the end as well. I obviously didn't know what to expect so the fact that I seemed to pace it right was a bit of a fluke. Also, it was quite tight at times (no road closures) so that probably stopped me from overdoing it early on.

Very happy with it though. Pity you couldn't make it.

That's fantastic fair play to you!
I knew you would be nearer to 1:50 than 2hrs!
Delighted for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
Well done to ballinaman also on his sub 17min 5k today.
Some going!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
Well done to ballinaman also on his sub 17min 5k today.
Some going!

That is some running from where I am sitting. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 29, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
Brilliant muppet, great stuff..just shows you what can be done! That route is narrow enough too with the crowds I reckon.

Sound LL...mentally tough today because was out in front from the whistle, easy to lose concentration and then you're gone if you're going for a time. Just tried to relax and control breathing as much as could, if start grabbing for air you can loose rhythm..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 29, 2014, 07:24:42 PM
Haha...stop. Be hard to top the pain levels that day I tells ya..jeeze. Just making each session count, quality not quantity and wait for it...wait for it..staying injury free.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2014, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.

Good man.

I might aim that direction in the 5 & 10 next year, but not quite as quick.

But 3 marathons!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.

Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2014, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.

Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.

Well done. Nice way to end the year off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Cheers. I get a lot of inspiration from this thread. The brother done it in 33.18. Different level altogether. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 29, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Cheers. I get a lot of inspiration from this thread. The brother done it in 33.18. Different level altogether.

Wow.

There was a mat at 10k in the half marathon today and the winner crossed it in 33:25!

He finished in 1:10:12.

Maybe next year.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 29, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Cheers. I get a lot of inspiration from this thread. The brother done it in 33.18. Different level altogether.

Wow.

There was a mat at 10k in the half marathon today and the winner crossed it in 33:25!

He finished in 1:10:12.

Maybe next year.  ;D

You never know. You must be delighted with your time today. Great going. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 29, 2014, 10:55:49 PM
Fair play lads, super going all round.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2014, 11:01:52 PM

Great to see you guys progressing. Running shows you that you never know what you can do until you put your mind to it!

Bm i would say there's 30 seconds in you in a 5k. Parkrun too early so makes it difficult to hydrate / fuel properly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 30, 2014, 01:25:31 AM
Brilliant running folks, well done to all especially the two Mayo bucks today. Serious going from both.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on November 30, 2014, 05:32:38 PM
felt my calf muscle go last night, sore today but hopefully not too bad, any idea how long i should leave it before going out again, annoying as i was going well this month  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 30, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 29, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 29, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
Well done to ballinaman also on his sub 17min 5k today.
Some going!

That is some running from where I am sitting. Well done.

Well done to both of you
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on November 30, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.

Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.

Well done CT - I enjoyed it - I see there are loads of pictures of it here
https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
Had our own 5km yesterday.

Massive success again with 770 registered runners on the day, gets bigger every year. Great buzz in town before and after.

Finished in 19.04, down on last years time. Literally ran to start line from closing off registration and tidying up that end of things but great day and a few nice pints last night after it  :)

Went back out and ran I with bingo Jnr and the missus and fair play to him he ran the whole way fora 32min finish. Best finish I ever had was the 3 of us running up to cross the line together. Was class  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Looked a great race bingo. Saw video Gerry Duffy put up on FB. Serious warm up from the crowd!
Nice one on the run, not bad for zero warm up or prep...you can take 5 seconds off at least for that!
What brought it in? Serious runners up that way I reckon..15 half 16 ya?

Am doing a track session tonight with Victoria Park and Tower Hamlets club in London...they have GB lads and 2.15/16 for the marathons and a rake of quality. Should be an eye opener!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 02, 2014, 09:56:55 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Looked a great race bingo. Saw video Gerry Duffy put up on FB. Serious warm up from the crowd!
Nice one on the run, not bad for zero warm up or prep...you can take 5 seconds off at least for that!
What brought it in? Serious runners up that way I reckon..15 half 16 ya?

Am doing a track session tonight with Victoria Park and Tower Hamlets club in London...they have GB lads and 2.15/16 for the marathons and a rake of quality. Should be an eye opener!

Cheers, was a great day and event. Huge mix for decent club runners, first timers and families running it together. I'll claim that 5 secs so  ;)

Conor Duffy won it in 15.23. He run off the back of getting called up to the Irish u23 squad for the European XC championships in a couple of weeks. A great local athlete and a sound chap as well.

That will test you tonight! Be interesting to see the level these lads train at.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Is he the glaslough guy Bingo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 02, 2014, 10:15:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Is he the glaslough guy Bingo?

That is him, runs for Glaslough Harriers. Relatively new to running, the first year we ran the 5km was Dec 2012 and it was his first race. Massive progress since.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Yeah I've seen the guy about cross country races before. Very good runner. Didn't realise he'd got to u23 international standard. u23 standard is generally pretty high too for those europeans. The standard of that inter counties race they use as qualifying for it is frightening.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 02, 2014, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Yeah I've seen the guy about cross country races before. Very good runner. Didn't realise he'd got to u23 international standard. u23 standard is generally pretty high too for those europeans. The standard of that inter counties race they use as qualifying for it is frightening.

Yeah, one of the lads went up to watch it in Dundalk a few weeks back and he said it was unreal. Guys we'd know from races and would be away out of our league were plodding along middle of the field in that race. Another step up in class altogether.

Conor made the top 20 in it, finishing 4th in the U23 field. He made the squad on the basis that the US based college runners were ruled out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on December 02, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: CD on November 30, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.

Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.

Well done CT - I enjoyed it - I see there are loads of pictures of it here
https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts)

fantastic year you have had CD. Are you doing Belfast marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 02, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on December 02, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: CD on November 30, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.


Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.

Well done CT - I enjoyed it - I see there are loads of pictures of it here
https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts)

fantastic year you have had CD. Are you doing Belfast marathon?
It's definitely on the radar - just a case of staying injury free. Just going to run Wednesday and Saturday for the next four weeks to rest a wee bit, then step it up again after Christmas with an eye on a marathon in the late spring. How about you? Any plans for it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on December 02, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: CD on December 02, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on December 02, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: CD on November 30, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: CD on November 29, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
Brilliant running muppet and ballinaman! Sub 17 5km is brutal! I don't think it would ever be possible to shift that fast. Ran Seeley Cup in Belfast today. Good event but I don't like the 3 laps idea! Set a pb of 42.30. Happy enough with that as a marker for next year- love to go under 41 and then aim for sub 40! Made good progress this year. Took my 5k from 24 to sub 20 and my 10 from 50 to 42.30. Ran my first half marathon in 1.40 and got to 21miles in my marathon training before injury set me back. For my first year running, I've gone way beyond my expectations. Next year, run the half marathon series and complete 3 marathons.


Done the seeley cup myself.  53.40 which is a pb for me so very happy with that.

Well done CT - I enjoyed it - I see there are loads of pictures of it here
https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/mark.ramsey.52?fref=ts)

fantastic year you have had CD. Are you doing Belfast marathon?
It's definitely on the radar - just a case of staying injury free. Just going to run Wednesday and Saturday for the next four weeks to rest a wee bit, then step it up again after Christmas with an eye on a marathon in the late spring. How about you? Any plans for it?

Yeah. I have entered it. Feel sick with nerves even thinking about it but I'm going to give it a lash. I'm not thinking of times or anything, would just be delighted to complete it. Have been going out twice a week with the local running club and feeling a good benefit from it. Doing a bit on my own too. Get stuck in properly Jan. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jeeze, am shook after that.
Have been training with the university club since september......said I'd go down to the local running club tonight (Victoria Park & Tower Hamlets) for a session on the same track the University uses...
Few GB lads and low 14 min 5K runners, about 40 in the group...all ages and abilities and all had to do the same session.
Session was, 800m jog....4 x 100 m strides

1200m at 10K pace with 1st 100m flat out to mimic start of a race/cross country to get position
70sec break
400m at 3K pace with 1st 100m flat out again...
60sec break

x 5 sets...
Was able to hold my own in the 400m, 63s but they were gone in the 1200s....unreal stuff, stride length and cadence on a different level...great to see it up close....

Absolutely fcuked now though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jeeze, am shook after that.
Have been training with the university club since september......said I'd go down to the local running club tonight (Victoria Park & Tower Hamlets) for a session on the same track the University uses...
Few GB lads and low 14 min 5K runners, about 40 in the group...all ages and abilities and all had to do the same session.
Session was, 800m jog....4 x 100 m strides

1200m at 10K pace with 1st 100m flat out to mimic start of a race/cross country to get position
70sec break
400m at 3K pace with 1st 100m flat out again...
60sec break

x 5 sets...
Was able to hold my own in the 400m, 63s but they were gone in the 1200s....unreal stuff, stride length and cadence on a different level...great to see it up close....

Absolutely fcuked now though!

Ouch. That's all good stuff. Stay injury free and you'll take big chunks of your times!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jeeze, am shook after that.
Have been training with the university club since september......said I'd go down to the local running club tonight (Victoria Park & Tower Hamlets) for a session on the same track the University uses...
Few GB lads and low 14 min 5K runners, about 40 in the group...all ages and abilities and all had to do the same session.
Session was, 800m jog....4 x 100 m strides

1200m at 10K pace with 1st 100m flat out to mimic start of a race/cross country to get position
70sec break
400m at 3K pace with 1st 100m flat out again...
60sec break

x 5 sets...
Was able to hold my own in the 400m, 63s but they were gone in the 1200s....unreal stuff, stride length and cadence on a different level...great to see it up close....

Absolutely fcuked now though!

Ouch. That's all good stuff. Stay injury free and you'll take big chunks of your times!
Am in till 8 after Christmas so won't be able to get down to them unfortunately...will tip down again next Tuesday hopefully.
Was hilarious, was like a flash mob of runners at 7.25....people breathing down your neck on every rep when it started! Be sore tomorrow...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2014, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jeeze, am shook after that.
Have been training with the university club since september......said I'd go down to the local running club tonight (Victoria Park & Tower Hamlets) for a session on the same track the University uses...
Few GB lads and low 14 min 5K runners, about 40 in the group...all ages and abilities and all had to do the same session.
Session was, 800m jog....4 x 100 m strides

1200m at 10K pace with 1st 100m flat out to mimic start of a race/cross country to get position
70sec break
400m at 3K pace with 1st 100m flat out again...
60sec break

x 5 sets...
Was able to hold my own in the 400m, 63s but they were gone in the 1200s....unreal stuff, stride length and cadence on a different level...great to see it up close....

Absolutely fcuked now though!

Ouch. That's all good stuff. Stay injury free and you'll take big chunks of your times!
Am in till 8 after Christmas so won't be able to get down to them unfortunately...will tip down again next Tuesday hopefully.
Was hilarious, was like a flash mob of runners at 7.25....people breathing down your neck on every rep when it started! Be sore tomorrow...

Which begs the question, does working on the technique, cadence and breathing bring much more improvement than just heading out on your own (and working to internet training plans) than with these running clubs?  I haven't improved one bit in last year or so, while I've probably only run about 12 miles a week I haven't really got below 1.38 for half 42min for ten or in a 5K race below 20 (have managed it in a non race)

Hard to prioritize things nowadays, running at a decent level (like most things) is being done by the youth (under 30 ;) )

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 02, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 02, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jeeze, am shook after that.
Have been training with the university club since september......said I'd go down to the local running club tonight (Victoria Park & Tower Hamlets) for a session on the same track the University uses...
Few GB lads and low 14 min 5K runners, about 40 in the group...all ages and abilities and all had to do the same session.
Session was, 800m jog....4 x 100 m strides

1200m at 10K pace with 1st 100m flat out to mimic start of a race/cross country to get position
70sec break
400m at 3K pace with 1st 100m flat out again...
60sec break

x 5 sets...
Was able to hold my own in the 400m, 63s but they were gone in the 1200s....unreal stuff, stride length and cadence on a different level...great to see it up close....

Absolutely fcuked now though!
Good tight stuff when you're in with that quality.

What distance was the session aimed at? 5k - 10k distance or up to half marsthon? Or just a general blow out for a range of runners?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 03, 2014, 10:14:57 AM
Quote from: Bingo on December 02, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
Good tight stuff when you're in with that quality.

What distance was the session aimed at? 5k - 10k distance or up to half marsthon? Or just a general blow out for a range of runners?
Ya, bit of a general distance session once a week....top lads have their own stuff to do during the week. It's a good idea though to develop a bit of club mentality to get everyone training together, rather than top lads off by themselves never interacting with the rest of the club. Good boost to know you doing same session as the fast lads...
Serious depth of talent though....a lad, early 60's/late 50's took me on the last 1200m rep...ridiculous stuff!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on December 03, 2014, 11:46:01 AM
I've narrowed the required scope of the Christmas Present to clothing. 

What are the must haves for running in the clothing line?  Do you need rain coat/windcheater?  I've heard Layers mentioned.  What this comprise of?  Are any branded clothes suitable or what are the best?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 05, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
I may have mentioned it before but the club run an annual get fit programme called Operation TransFaughmation. It has proved to be massively successful for the club in terms of been a fundraiser but also for the work it has done in the community and people it has attracted to the club and goodwill in community it has created. Its basically a 12 week programme the finished with the 5km run - 12 weeks with a circuit class on Tuesday, bootcamp/yoga/boxercise etc on a Friday and running group on Sunday (with a couch to 5km or a further group for people past that).

We have won several awares for this programme - GAA and Non-Gaa. It also led us to be one of the GAA's 18 healthy clubs which they using to develop a health and wellbeing programme and this has won major praise.

They sent down a TV crew to put together a clip that is to be rolled out nationwide to encourage clubs to go down this route.

This is the clip that was debuted last night at the County GAA. I was left on the editing room  floor......thankfully  ;)

Anyways, have look for yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKmSdmfHvg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKmSdmfHvg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 07, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Sorry, that was a preview link.

Correct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 07, 2014, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 07, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Sorry, that was a preview link.

Correct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc)
Nobody does community better than the GAA! Congratulations to all involved - an extremely worthwhile and obviously successful program. I would see this kind of initiative playing a key role the GAA's immediate and long term future.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 07, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 07, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Sorry, that was a preview link.

Correct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc)
Mighty stuff.
Enjoyed that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on December 07, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 07, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 07, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Sorry, that was a preview link.

Correct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc)
Mighty stuff.
Enjoyed that!

brilliant, looks a great buzz.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 07, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on December 07, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 07, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 07, 2014, 04:09:11 PM
Sorry, that was a preview link.

Correct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhV-ylowyc)
Mighty stuff.
Enjoyed that!

brilliant, looks a great buzz.

Great video. Fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 13, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
Anyone brave a Parkrun this morning? It was fierce cold out there - a couple of lads went arse over tit! Treacherous underfoot. I was reading a weather story earlier suggesting that we could be set for a severe winter with long periods of ice and snow into February. That'll put the winter training program into doubt and will definitely impact my hopes for next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: CD on December 13, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
Anyone brave a Parkrun this morning? It was fierce cold out there - a couple of lads went arse over tit! Treacherous underfoot. I was reading a weather story earlier suggesting that we could be set for a severe winter with long periods of ice and snow into February. That'll put the winter training program into doubt and will definitely impact my hopes for next year.

I did it. A minute off my best and even slower than when I ran after a night of wine. I am putting it down to the ice but unfairness it was alright. I only felt like running for the last 500m and could have run on. Probably because I was running longer runs recently.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 15, 2014, 10:44:20 AM
Great weather for running in once its not too slippy underfoot.

Did a local 5m race yesterday, haven't been doing too much recently and mainly short runs. Was a nice route, tougher opening half with a decent climb just before halfway and a very fast descent just after it. Finished in 32.13, which was happy enough, got into a decent race for positions and looked like I was goosed in the last half mile but dug in and held them off.

Next up is the local 10km on St Stephens day, was like ice skating last year in parts! But always a good relaxed run for burning off some of the turkey before another fill of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 19, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
Many racing over Christmas? Bingo in the 10KM on Stephens day.....am park running tomorrow and another 5K on Stephensisssss day too


Also, great german doc on how the Russians are up to theirs eyes on dope...worth a look! Part 1 here, rest are on youtube too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1YlKaN3cPs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on December 19, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Doing the Greencastle 5 miler on St Stephens day, can't say I am looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on December 20, 2014, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: gerry on December 19, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Doing the Greencastle 5 miler on St Stephens day, can't say I am looking forward to it.
Did it a couple of years ago but won't bother doing it again (sorry Ziggy!) because it just messed up the day. Ok if you live within ten miles of Greencastle, not if it takes you 45 mins to get there.
This year I will be hiking in Queenstown, NZ on Stephen's Day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on December 20, 2014, 09:49:36 AM
I did the Greencastle a couple of times. Once was great craic and the muliple pints watching the football in the afternoon were just that bit sweeter as it felt like they had been earned!  ;D

Second time was the really bad winter about 3-4 years ago and it was a nightmare. While the organisers did a great job clearing the roads, the sheer volume of people, foot deep snow on verges and the sub zero temperatures meant that there were isolated patches that were really treacherous.

Oh, and the hill/cliff that starts at the fourth mile should be bulldozed!

Enjoy New Zealand Rois, a place I would have loved to get to while I was young enough to enjoy the "extreme" element. Unfortunately that ship has sailed!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 21, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
Marathon Men documentary on RTE2 at 8pm. Tells the story of Gerry Duffy's 32 marathons in 32 counties in 32 days. The runners and others among you may be inspired!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 21, 2014, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: CD on December 21, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
Marathon Men documentary on RTE2 at 8pm. Tells the story of Gerry Duffy's 32 marathons in 32 counties in 32 days. The runners and others among you may be inspired!
Very good show. Some achievement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Great morning for a run..... 10K in 45mins on a fairly hill route. Going to do it every morning till I'm back to work..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 24, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Great morning for a run..... 10K in 45mins on a fairly hill route. Going to do it every morning till I'm back to work..
Same myself! Did I pass you 😜?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 24, 2014, 11:25:34 AM
Quote from: CD on December 24, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Great morning for a run..... 10K in 45mins on a fairly hill route. Going to do it every morning till I'm back to work..
Same myself! Did I pass you 😜?

There are two chances of me doing a run today, or tomorrow for that matter!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: CD on December 24, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Great morning for a run..... 10K in 45mins on a fairly hill route. Going to do it every morning till I'm back to work..
Same myself! Did I pass you 😜?

I'd say you'll pass me now  ;).  I'll be back though as Arnie says!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 25, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
Got up early and went for a run around Marlay Park. Lovely morning for it.
Did about 8k. Longest I've run for a while
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on December 26, 2014, 01:07:13 AM
Haven't run a mile since the marathon.  People told me it's a bug but I haven't caught it.  Would like to do another one but it will be on my terms when I'm good and ready. January is a good time to start training i hear. Happy Christmas lads. Hope it's a good one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Same route different direction same fecking time!! 3 pounds heavier though!! Living away from home has its down sides!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 26, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Same route different direction same fecking time!! 3 pounds heavier though!! Living away from home has its down sides!!
Way too cold for me out there this morning and carrying half a turkey inside doesn't help! Potential snow won't encourage me to do park run tomorrow either! Fair play MR! You doing the Titanic 10k on New Year's Day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 05:29:22 PM
Quote from: CD on December 26, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Same route different direction same fecking time!! 3 pounds heavier though!! Living away from home has its down sides!!
Way too cold for me out there this morning and carrying half a turkey inside doesn't help! Potential snow won't encourage me to do park run tomorrow either! Fair play MR! You doing the Titanic 10k on New Year's Day?

I do my normal circuit on New years first thing wouldn't be fit for driving but I usually knock out 6 miles to get a clear head... Never knew there was a titanic new years one, tough enough on a good day... Did it last time (summer?) head wind all way down Sydenham road!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 26, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 05:29:22 PM
Quote from: CD on December 26, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Same route different direction same fecking time!! 3 pounds heavier though!! Living away from home has its down sides!!
Way too cold for me out there this morning and carrying half a turkey inside doesn't help! Potential snow won't encourage me to do park run tomorrow either! Fair play MR! You doing the Titanic 10k on New Year's Day?

I do my normal circuit on New years first thing wouldn't be fit for driving but I usually knock out 6 miles to get a clear head... Never knew there was a titanic new years one, tough enough on a good day... Did it last time (summer?) head wind all way down Sydenham road!
Aye - did that one and struggled! I'm for Anfield courtesy of my wife so won't be running myself!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maxpower on December 27, 2014, 10:46:57 AM
Anyone doing the race over the glens on New Years Day.  I've only ever completed Parkruns and I think this is just under 6mile.  If nothing else it's a lovely Forrest park in Glenarriffe
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on December 31, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
thats greencastle and lough5 done for another year, just entered for the omagh half marathon in march. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on December 31, 2014, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 31, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
thats greencastle and lough5 done for another year, just entered for the omagh half marathon in march.
Omagh is on my radar as well Gerry. The Cara, Bundoran 10mile a week earlier is a good marker for it. The offer of 20euro registration ends tonight so I must register for it now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 31, 2014, 07:53:58 PM
Happy new year to all my fellow runners on here. A great group of fellas ye are,oh and not forgetting the girls Rois and Milltown Row...

I had a very enjoyable year running and done things I never thought I be capable of and this thread was a great help.
I also loved hearing about the progress of the newer runners like muppet and magpie seanie as I was only new myself at the start of the year.
Looking forward to the new year and setting new PB's

I hear Tony Baloney got new runners for Christmas and will be starting a couch to 5k programme tomorrow.......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2015, 11:46:38 AM
Same to you ya fecker!! Did my new year run this morning.... 5 miles in the wind and almost tropical temperatures, 13 degrees ffs!! Can you get done for running while over the limit?? Get on the roads lads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 01, 2015, 12:14:49 PM
Dublin marathon October
Hampton Court Half marathon Feb 22nd
Sub 16.30 5K

Goals set!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 01, 2015, 02:22:48 PM
Happy new year lads on the most sane and WUMless thread on the board!

Been a productive year running but haven't hit the target new PB's but plenty of PBs all the same and comfortably below 20m for 5km.

Have done a ball of races since Dublin and really enjoyed racing them. Fairly happy with times as well as not been racking up too many miles. Ran the local 10km on St Stephens day and another 10km in Emyvale this morning in very windy conditions.

2015 will see a big effort to break 40m for 10km in immediate future, then the Newry half before a good run at Berlin for the full at end of September.

Looking forward to it and the updates here as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 09, 2015, 07:08:11 PM
Happy new year runners! Now that the festive dust has settled and the I suppose it's time to set a few targets for the new year! I'm looking to start my season with the Cara Bundoran on 15th March then the Craic run Belfast on Paddies day and aim for Omagh Half on 28th. Might look at Larne half or DUNE if I'm feeling up to it! All being well with a still dodgy ankle I'd like a couple of marathons in the late spring!

Anyone else have a few races to look forward to? I find that I won't get out to train if I don't have a few races to prepare for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
Just heard about this Craic race CD hmmmmmm interesting :o. Maybe a duel lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
Omagh 10k in feb, bundoran 10 mile in march, Omagh half in March then it's back to the bike.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Btw is there a strava gaaboard group.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 09, 2015, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
Just heard about this Craic race CD hmmmmmm interesting :o. Maybe a duel lol

We knew this day would come! Looking forward to it  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 09, 2015, 08:42:59 PM
Ran my first 5k in an eon there on Wed evening on the treadmill tho. My target is to get back.out on the road and eventually get back to a sub 20 5k. Not too sure about longer runs to i see how the back holds up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2015, 11:35:41 PM
Quote from: CD on January 09, 2015, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
Just heard about this Craic race CD hmmmmmm interesting :o. Maybe a duel lol

We knew this day would come! Looking forward to it  :D

f**k lol... Ok will have to up my game while I'm working away in England these next five weeks lol!!!..is there a link to website? Not where I was last year 42 minutes do will have to put effort in
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 10, 2015, 07:27:23 AM
http://aisling-events.com/event/craic-10k-belfast/ (http://aisling-events.com/event/craic-10k-belfast/)
Still working out how to copy and paste on the iPad! She's not easy!
I did my last 10k in about 42.30 so would be aiming for that again! Looks like a good route and a nice way to spend St Patrick's morning!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2015, 09:13:03 AM
Cheers, good target will pencil that in...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on January 10, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Will do that one myself. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2015, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on January 10, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Will do that one myself.

More pressure lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 10, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2015, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on January 10, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Will do that one myself.

More pressure lol
hah!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2015, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: CD on January 10, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2015, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on January 10, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Will do that one myself.

More pressure lol
hah!  ;)

Will hit the road tomorrow, I've a hilly 10k route but will head onto tow path and set the clock for 10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 16, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
The must have runner of 2015  8)

(http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/enko_tech_en.jpg)

http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/ (http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 16, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
The must have runner of 2015  8)

(http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/enko_tech_en.jpg)

http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/ (http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/)

Should there be a 'W' before the brand name?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 16, 2015, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 16, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: Bingo on January 16, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
The must have runner of 2015  8)

(http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/enko_tech_en.jpg)

http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/ (http://www.enko-running-shoes.com/)

Should there be a 'W' before the brand name?

Looks like there should!

I think I ll start a book as regards who ll be the first *enko to appear at park run in a pair of those.

Mind you I never thought I'd be wearing a pair of those running leggings or lycra cycling shorts myself :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 17, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
Funny you should mention running leggings. I've always been an advocate of shorts and frowning on leggings etc. Until yesterday maybe. On my lunchtime run yesterday I had just turned into the wind just as a rather nasty hail shower started. I had 3 layers on on top so it was just a case of keeping the head down and keeping her lit. About 5 or 6 minutes into this I began to experience and strange and very uncomfortable pain in a quite sensitive area of my anatomy. Now I've played football in all sorts of conditions loads and loads of times but I never experienced anything like this, ahem, discomfort! I was really glad when I reached the turn at the top of the road, I can tell you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 17, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
Anyone doing Hell and Back next weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on January 17, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 17, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
Funny you should mention running leggings. I've always been an advocate of shorts and frowning on leggings etc. Until yesterday maybe. On my lunchtime run yesterday I had just turned into the wind just as a rather nasty hail shower started. I had 3 layers on on top so it was just a case of keeping the head down and keeping her lit. About 5 or 6 minutes into this I began to experience and strange and very uncomfortable pain in a quite sensitive area of my anatomy. Now I've played football in all sorts of conditions loads and loads of times but I never experienced anything like this, ahem, discomfort! I was really glad when I reached the turn at the top of the road, I can tell you!
Then it was only your hoop you had to worry about!! 😨
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 21, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
January has been a struggle to get into a rhythm (always a busy time in my job) but finally think I'm getting into a routine again. A few targets floating around in my mind for the year. 10 miler in Bundoran (Cara) first up I reckon. We'll see how that pans out. My main goals though are to lose about a stone and clip a nice bit off my Warriors Run time, obviously these are not mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 29, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
What a kick!

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251943-Kick-of-the-Week/video/758482-KICK-OF-THE-WEEK-10-year-old-Nathan-Sheehy#.VMoM7dKaWbJ
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on January 29, 2015, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 29, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
What a kick!

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251943-Kick-of-the-Week/video/758482-KICK-OF-THE-WEEK-10-year-old-Nathan-Sheehy#.VMoM7dKaWbJ

Mayoman just beaten on the line in a final.

I've never seen that before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 29, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 29, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
What a kick!

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251943-Kick-of-the-Week/video/758482-KICK-OF-THE-WEEK-10-year-old-Nathan-Sheehy#.VMoM7dKaWbJ

The poor wee cub but he'll never be beat on the line again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2015, 02:33:38 PM
Dopey f**ker easing up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 31, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
3.5 mile run to park,
16.53 parkrun will loads of juice in the tank left, tried to keep splits even.
3.5 mile run home.

Handy way to use parkruns as tempo sessions if you are withink 3/4 mile of route.


Interesting article here about how the time of the event can affect performance, goes along with what tommy mentioned a few months ago that early morning races are more difficult. So bare in mind with regards to marathon training, get your long runs in at a similar time to when the actual races starts.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2015/01/29/for-athletes-the-time-of-an-event-can-affect-performance/?_r=0&referrer
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 01, 2015, 08:01:28 PM
That's ridiculous running Ballinaman! I'm finding it hard to get going at the moment. Managed to get my last 2 parkruns under 20mins and happy with that but just can't seem to get out at all during the week. Hoping February will be the start of it now and I can get a bit of motivation out of somewhere!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 01, 2015, 08:08:58 PM
Quote from: CD on February 01, 2015, 08:01:28 PM
That's ridiculous running Ballinaman! I'm finding it hard to get going at the moment. Managed to get my last 2 parkruns under 20mins and happy with that but just can't seem to get out at all during the week. Hoping February will be the start of it now and I can get a bit of motivation out of somewhere!

fancy half marathon 7th march carlingford? go on the rip after.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 01, 2015, 08:19:09 PM
I have a 10 mile race the following weekend and 10k on the 17th as well as the Omagh half on 28th. I think that's plenty for March. Don't even know if I'll be in shape for those at the moment!! If I get my dodgy ankle through those unscathed I'm aiming for the Belfast marathon but I'd need to start seriously this week or I won't make it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 31, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
3.5 mile run to park,
16.53 parkrun will loads of juice in the tank left, tried to keep splits even.
3.5 mile run home.

Handy way to use parkruns as tempo sessions if you are withink 3/4 mile of route.


Interesting article here about how the time of the event can affect performance, goes along with what tommy mentioned a few months ago that early morning races are more difficult. So bare in mind with regards to marathon training, get your long runs in at a similar time to when the actual races starts.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2015/01/29/for-athletes-the-time-of-an-event-can-affect-performance/?_r=0&referrer

Some going that.

I am struggling for motivation as well. Signed up for a 10k in a few weeks so hopefully the 'thickness' Seanie refers to will return.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 01, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
I've had a super month, really got onboard early and have ran at least 5 times a week, some weeks 6 but majority have been just 30 mins per day but quality - tempo, hill repeats, intervals and a few 5milers thrown in.

Have about 90 miles done in January.

The 30min programme finishing up this Friday and will start racing over 5km and 10km and build up the LSR on Sunday's again.

That's fair pegging BM but I'm sure that was a regular session for you and plenty of tough ones to come.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 01, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
90 miles is a quality month with the different types of sessions thrown in too.
Races are the best way to get motivated and out because if you have something coming down the tracks at you, you'll get the work done.
Aye, felt good yesterday, so much so went on the rip last night and therefore the 16 mile run I had planned to do this morning didn't happen....not ideal prep for the half marathon on 22nd this month but I'll get back on the horse tomorrow!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 01, 2015, 09:48:05 PM

Missed 4 days running at start of the month with cold and cough. Then I got 125 miles done up to the 25/01.
That's as good as it got. Hip flexor felt sore on long run and I was told to take it easy for 5/6 days and take some anti-inflams. Tried to do a few miles today but was sore after 2 miles. Fit to be tied as I ve a marathon in 6 weeks and a couple of long runs to do before taper. Is there any quick fix?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 01, 2015, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 01, 2015, 09:48:05 PM

Missed 4 days running at start of the month with cold and cough. Then I got 125 miles done up to the 25/01.
That's as good as it got. Hip flexor felt sore on long run and I was told to take it easy for 5/6 days and take some anti-inflams. Tried to do a few miles today but was sore after 2 miles. Fit to be tied as I ve a marathon in 6 weeks and a couple of long runs to do before taper. Is there any quick fix?
Obviously a full assessment would be better to see if there are any particular imbalances going on that may be contributing to the problem but for a start try these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbu5RZhPbM for hip flexor, no pain when doing any stretching, just a gentle stretch.

And this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNUjWgsDts for the hamstrings, both sides. New research has shown that hamstrings being shortened have an affect on the opposite hip flexor, tilting the pelvis and therefore affecting the opposite hip flexor....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 01, 2015, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 01, 2015, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 01, 2015, 09:48:05 PM

Missed 4 days running at start of the month with cold and cough. Then I got 125 miles done up to the 25/01.
That's as good as it got. Hip flexor felt sore on long run and I was told to take it easy for 5/6 days and take some anti-inflams. Tried to do a few miles today but was sore after 2 miles. Fit to be tied as I ve a marathon in 6 weeks and a couple of long runs to do before taper. Is there any quick fix?
Obviously a full assessment would be better to see if there are any particular imbalances going on that may be contributing to the problem but for a start try these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbu5RZhPbM for hip flexor, no pain when doing any stretching, just a gentle stretch.

And this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNUjWgsDts for the hamstrings, both sides. New research has shown that hamstrings being shortened have an affect on the opposite hip flexor, tilting the pelvis and therefore affecting the opposite hip flexor....

Thanks ballinaman for that. I ll give then a go.

Yeah. There is an imbalance there. I m weaker in left glute area than the right. Might be a hangover from football days when my left leg was mostly for standing on :)  As a result I get tightness in hamstring and groin but never got so sore I had to stop running before.
Last year an osteopath corrected a glitch in my pelvis on the left side which improved things a lot but I could tell I was slipping back again even before I had this pull ( I did a slight splits while on a long run on a dodgy surface).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 01, 2015, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 01, 2015, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 01, 2015, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 01, 2015, 09:48:05 PM

Missed 4 days running at start of the month with cold and cough. Then I got 125 miles done up to the 25/01.
That's as good as it got. Hip flexor felt sore on long run and I was told to take it easy for 5/6 days and take some anti-inflams. Tried to do a few miles today but was sore after 2 miles. Fit to be tied as I ve a marathon in 6 weeks and a couple of long runs to do before taper. Is there any quick fix?
Obviously a full assessment would be better to see if there are any particular imbalances going on that may be contributing to the problem but for a start try these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbu5RZhPbM for hip flexor, no pain when doing any stretching, just a gentle stretch.

And this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNUjWgsDts for the hamstrings, both sides. New research has shown that hamstrings being shortened have an affect on the opposite hip flexor, tilting the pelvis and therefore affecting the opposite hip flexor....

Thanks ballinaman for that. I ll give then a go.

Yeah. There is an imbalance there. I m weaker in left glute area than the right. Might be a hangover from football days when my left leg was mostly for standing on :)  As a result I get tightness in hamstring and groin but never got so sore I had to stop running before.
Last year an osteopath corrected a glitch in my pelvis on the left side which improved things a lot but I could tell I was slipping back again even before I had this pull ( I did a slight splits while on a long run on a dodgy surface).

you need to train the glutes to fire properly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5kUsOQWKjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5kUsOQWKjo)
the likes of that will help
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 02, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 31, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
3.5 mile run to park,
16.53 parkrun will loads of juice in the tank left, tried to keep splits even.
3.5 mile run home.

Handy way to use parkruns as tempo sessions if you are withink 3/4 mile of route.


Interesting article here about how the time of the event can affect performance, goes along with what tommy mentioned a few months ago that early morning races are more difficult. So bare in mind with regards to marathon training, get your long runs in at a similar time to when the actual races starts.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2015/01/29/for-athletes-the-time-of-an-event-can-affect-performance/?_r=0&referrer

Some going that.

I am struggling for motivation as well. Signed up for a 10k in a few weeks so hopefully the 'thickness' Seanie refers to will return.

January was slow to start, got going ok in the middle (at a struggle) but then tanked towards the end. Have a few things niggling at me that I can't seem to shift and work has been absolutely crazy. February will have to be the new January! Thinking of the Achill half marathon in early July. Supposed to be a tough one but I'd be confident that all half marathons are tough! That would leave me in good nick to really improve my Warriors Run time in August.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 02, 2015, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 02, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 31, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
3.5 mile run to park,
16.53 parkrun will loads of juice in the tank left, tried to keep splits even.
3.5 mile run home.

Handy way to use parkruns as tempo sessions if you are withink 3/4 mile of route.


Interesting article here about how the time of the event can affect performance, goes along with what tommy mentioned a few months ago that early morning races are more difficult. So bare in mind with regards to marathon training, get your long runs in at a similar time to when the actual races starts.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2015/01/29/for-athletes-the-time-of-an-event-can-affect-performance/?_r=0&referrer

Some going that.

I am struggling for motivation as well. Signed up for a 10k in a few weeks so hopefully the 'thickness' Seanie refers to will return.

January was slow to start, got going ok in the middle (at a struggle) but then tanked towards the end. Have a few things niggling at me that I can't seem to shift and work has been absolutely crazy. February will have to be the new January! Thinking of the Achill half marathon in early July. Supposed to be a tough one but I'd be confident that all half marathons are tough! That would leave me in good nick to really improve my Warriors Run time in August.

Achill not a place for a pb. Done it a few times and would be about 3 mins off a flatter half.
Tough route with a long drag at the start and a killer hill at mile 11. But there is a middle part where you can open the throttle.
Well organised - if somewhat pricey for a 1/2 - and of course beautifully scenic. If that s any consolation when your about to calve.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: giveherlong on February 02, 2015, 10:38:37 PM
Lads anyone know of any 400 metres routes or laps in north belfast, cave hill Antrim road area?
I see boys model has a 400m track, what would the chances be of getting a few laps on it at lunch time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 02, 2015, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 02, 2015, 10:38:37 PM
Lads anyone know of any 400 metres routes or laps in north belfast, cave hill Antrim road area?
I see boys model has a 400m track, what would the chances be of getting a few laps on it at lunch time?

Do you need exactly 400m? I'd say a lap of the bottom lake in the waterworks wouldn't be far off 400m. I should be round it at the weekend if you want me to check it on runkeeper?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: giveherlong on February 03, 2015, 09:57:29 AM
Just checked a lap of waterworks is 1.4km
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 03, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 03, 2015, 09:57:29 AM
Just checked a lap of waterworks is 1.4km

That's the whole thing. Try the bottom lake. The park run start is marked out - a full lap round that would be about 400m
Title: Re: Running
Post by: giveherlong on February 03, 2015, 10:29:41 AM
Spot on, it's 420 metres
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 03, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 03, 2015, 10:29:41 AM
Spot on, it's 420 metres

Sounds like your GPS is about 20 metres out  ;)

That's good to know - might use that bottom lap a bit more now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 02, 2015, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 02, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 31, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
3.5 mile run to park,
16.53 parkrun will loads of juice in the tank left, tried to keep splits even.
3.5 mile run home.

Handy way to use parkruns as tempo sessions if you are withink 3/4 mile of route.


Interesting article here about how the time of the event can affect performance, goes along with what tommy mentioned a few months ago that early morning races are more difficult. So bare in mind with regards to marathon training, get your long runs in at a similar time to when the actual races starts.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2015/01/29/for-athletes-the-time-of-an-event-can-affect-performance/?_r=0&referrer

Some going that.

I am struggling for motivation as well. Signed up for a 10k in a few weeks so hopefully the 'thickness' Seanie refers to will return.

January was slow to start, got going ok in the middle (at a struggle) but then tanked towards the end. Have a few things niggling at me that I can't seem to shift and work has been absolutely crazy. February will have to be the new January! Thinking of the Achill half marathon in early July. Supposed to be a tough one but I'd be confident that all half marathons are tough! That would leave me in good nick to really improve my Warriors Run time in August.

Achill not a place for a pb. Done it a few times and would be about 3 mins off a flatter half.
Tough route with a long drag at the start and a killer hill at mile 11. But there is a middle part where you can open the throttle.
Well organised - if somewhat pricey for a 1/2 - and of course beautifully scenic. If that s any consolation when your about to calve.

Thanks for the info Moysider. IfWhen I do it then it will be a PB anyway - haven't ran over 10 miles yet. Benefits for me with Achill is that we might make a weekend of it with the kids so that gets buy in from "the boss" which makes getting time to train easier etc... I'm a crafty hoor really!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 03, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 11:24:49 AM

Thanks for the info Moysider. IfWhen I do it then it will be a PB anyway - haven't ran over 10 miles yet. Benefits for me with Achill is that we might make a weekend of it with the kids so that gets buy in from "the boss" which makes getting time to train easier etc... I'm a crafty hoor really!

An often overlooked and essential part of any training plan  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 03, 2015, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 03, 2015, 09:57:29 AM
Just checked a lap of waterworks is 1.4km

Here's what you want, access from Jellicoe Avenue and Skegoneill Road. Tip: Dont wear you club or county top.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.6210774,-5.9265034,434m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.6210774,-5.9265034,434m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 03, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 03, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 11:24:49 AM

Thanks for the info Moysider. IfWhen I do it then it will be a PB anyway - haven't ran over 10 miles yet. Benefits for me with Achill is that we might make a weekend of it with the kids so that gets buy in from "the boss" which makes getting time to train easier etc... I'm a crafty hoor really!

An often overlooked and essential part of any training plan  :D

More like sounds to me that ye re bet down lads. Ye need to grow a pair and man up!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 03, 2015, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 03, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 03, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 11:24:49 AM

Thanks for the info Moysider. IfWhen I do it then it will be a PB anyway - haven't ran over 10 miles yet. Benefits for me with Achill is that we might make a weekend of it with the kids so that gets buy in from "the boss" which makes getting time to train easier etc... I'm a crafty hoor really!

An often overlooked and essential part of any training plan  :D

More like sounds to me that ye re bet down lads. Ye need to grow a pair and man up!!

Pipe down or I'll send that to your missus.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 03, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 03, 2015, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 03, 2015, 11:24:49 AM

Thanks for the info Moysider. IfWhen I do it then it will be a PB anyway - haven't ran over 10 miles yet. Benefits for me with Achill is that we might make a weekend of it with the kids so that gets buy in from "the boss" which makes getting time to train easier etc... I'm a crafty hoor really!

An often overlooked and essential part of any training plan  :D

More like sounds to me that ye re bet down lads. Ye need to grow a pair and man up!!

I know when to pick my battles....and who to pick them with!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 03, 2015, 05:24:00 PM

I get away with murder cause the missus trains and does more events than I do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: larryin89 on February 03, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Complete novice here , been on the couch smokin fags for  near 20 years now . At the age of 37 this year I decided to quit the smokes and try to see if I could get some sort of level of fitness to prolong the life to 50 maybe to give me half a chance of seein Mayo lift sam.

Is there any advice I could get off Ye, I've started to do a bit  of running . Here's what I've found so far , on the road is the toughest , I seem to get a lot more out of myself doin laps of the pitch . Should I try to improve on distance each time or get faster with the distance im doing which is only at about 3 mile so far but I do believe I'm capable of improving on that each time. 

Don't be takin the piss now as this is daunting enough , people  don't realise how low on confidence you become for this sort of thing if you're so long out doing nothing of this nature.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 03, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Complete novice here , been on the couch smokin fags for  near 20 years now . At the age of 37 this year I decided to quit the smokes and try to see if I could get some sort of level of fitness to prolong the life to 50 maybe to give me half a chance of seein Mayo lift sam.

Is there any advice I could get off Ye, I've started to do a bit  of running . Here's what I've found so far , on the road is the toughest , I seem to get a lot more out of myself doin laps of the pitch . Should I try to improve on distance each time or get faster with the distance im doing which is only at about 3 mile so far but I do believe I'm capable of improving on that each time. 

Don't be takin the piss now as this is daunting enough , people  don't realise how low on confidence you become for this sort of thing if you're so long out doing nothing of this nature.

Try any of the free Apps for starters.

3m miles is 5k. Look at ParkRun.com and find the nearest one to you. Start doing it whenever you can and monitor your times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 03, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Complete novice here , been on the couch smokin fags for  near 20 years now . At the age of 37 this year I decided to quit the smokes and try to see if I could get some sort of level of fitness to prolong the life to 50 maybe to give me half a chance of seein Mayo lift sam.

Is there any advice I could get off Ye, I've started to do a bit  of running . Here's what I've found so far , on the road is the toughest , I seem to get a lot more out of myself doin laps of the pitch . Should I try to improve on distance each time or get faster with the distance im doing which is only at about 3 mile so far but I do believe I'm capable of improving on that each time. 

Don't be takin the piss now as this is daunting enough , people  don't realise how low on confidence you become for this sort of thing if you're so long out doing nothing of this nature.

At only 37 you should be able to become a very decent runner. I was well in the 40s when I started back and still haven t jacked the fags fully.
Try going for longer and build up endurance. Also easier to run with somebody your own level. You ll push each other on and less inclined to stop and take a breather. A good watch as well so you can review your runs. I always write down what I do now as well. Makes it more interesting.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 03, 2015, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 03, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Complete novice here , been on the couch smokin fags for  near 20 years now . At the age of 37 this year I decided to quit the smokes and try to see if I could get some sort of level of fitness to prolong the life to 50 maybe to give me half a chance of seein Mayo lift sam.

Is there any advice I could get off Ye, I've started to do a bit  of running . Here's what I've found so far , on the road is the toughest , I seem to get a lot more out of myself doin laps of the pitch . Should I try to improve on distance each time or get faster with the distance im doing which is only at about 3 mile so far but I do believe I'm capable of improving on that each time. 

Don't be takin the piss now as this is daunting enough , people  don't realise how low on confidence you become for this sort of thing if you're so long out doing nothing of this nature.

At only 37 you should be able to become a very decent runner. I was well in the 40s when I started back and still haven t jacked the fags fully.
Try going for longer and build up endurance. Also easier to run with somebody your own level. You ll push each other on and less inclined to stop and take a breather. A good watch as well so you can review your runs. I always write down what I do now as well. Makes it more interesting.

I started before the days of gadgets and smart phones, and have about 20 years of data, on paper. Here is my analysis for 3 miles


Mins
     |
30 |                                                                                          ..
     |                                                              .........................../
     |                                ............................./
20 |           ..................../
     | ........./
     |
10 |
     |
     | __________________________________________________
     1990         1995           2000           2005          2010            2015



My main issue now is too many birthdays.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 07, 2015, 07:38:55 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 03, 2015, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 03, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 03, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Complete novice here , been on the couch smokin fags for  near 20 years now . At the age of 37 this year I decided to quit the smokes and try to see if I could get some sort of level of fitness to prolong the life to 50 maybe to give me half a chance of seein Mayo lift sam.

Is there any advice I could get off Ye, I've started to do a bit  of running . Here's what I've found so far , on the road is the toughest , I seem to get a lot more out of myself doin laps of the pitch . Should I try to improve on distance each time or get faster with the distance im doing which is only at about 3 mile so far but I do believe I'm capable of improving on that each time. 

Don't be takin the piss now as this is daunting enough , people  don't realise how low on confidence you become for this sort of thing if you're so long out doing nothing of this nature.

At only 37 you should be able to become a very decent runner. I was well in the 40s when I started back and still haven t jacked the fags fully.
Try going for longer and build up endurance. Also easier to run with somebody your own level. You ll push each other on and less inclined to stop and take a breather. A good watch as well so you can review your runs. I always write down what I do now as well. Makes it more interesting.

I started before the days of gadgets and smart phones, and have about 20 years of data, on paper. Here is my analysis for 3 miles


Mins
     |
30 |                                                                                          ..
     |                                                              .........................../
     |                                ............................./
20 |           ..................../
     | ........./
     |
10 |
     |
     | __________________________________________________
     1990         1995           2000           2005          2010            2015



My main issue now is too many birthdays.
started using my garmin for 5kms! In the past I just used it for longer runs and more to record distance. Using it to pace myself over 5k has helped me improve. Managed my fastest mile and fastest 5k today. I know I need to run the first mile in about 6.10 and then dig in for 2 miles if I'm going to hit pb territory. I then stick it all on the computer. Getting faster!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
Interesting reading about boys running 90 mile per month. I just started back a month ago after two years of very little exercise. I've only done 2 - 3 5k each week, all on treadmill mainly due to snow and the fact it gave me the confidence I could stop at anytime!! My first effort back was 5k in and around 30 mins with mostly jogging and bit of walking. Yesterday I "ran" 2.8 mile in 20 mins. Do u need the big miles or do shorter sharper runs suffice. My goal is 5k in under 20, don't want to go further as history of back problems prob won't allow me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
Interesting reading about boys running 90 mile per month. I just started back a month ago after two years of very little exercise. I've only done 2 - 3 5k each week, all on treadmill mainly due to snow and the fact it gave me the confidence I could stop at anytime!! My first effort back was 5k in and around 30 mins with mostly jogging and bit of walking. Yesterday I "ran" 2.8 mile in 20 mins. Do u need the big miles or do shorter sharper runs suffice. My goal is 5k in under 20, don't want to go further as history of back problems prob won't allow me

You see I'm the opposite, the treadmill was too handy to give in, so I took the doing circuits on the roads around home, once I'd got to midway there was no point stopping, just keep those wheels turning no matter how slowly till you get there. Not helped by the fact there's a pretty steep hill on the home straight to the house.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhailov on February 09, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
Interesting reading about boys running 90 mile per month. I just started back a month ago after two years of very little exercise. I've only done 2 - 3 5k each week, all on treadmill mainly due to snow and the fact it gave me the confidence I could stop at anytime!! My first effort back was 5k in and around 30 mins with mostly jogging and bit of walking. Yesterday I "ran" 2.8 mile in 20 mins. Do u need the big miles or do shorter sharper runs suffice. My goal is 5k in under 20, don't want to go further as history of back problems prob won't allow me

You must have looked after yourself in your 2 year break from exercise. To go from 30min 5k to 20min 4.75k is good going in a matter of weeks. Surely the target of 5k in 20 mins will be easy for you to achieve.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 09, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on February 09, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on February 08, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
Interesting reading about boys running 90 mile per month. I just started back a month ago after two years of very little exercise. I've only done 2 - 3 5k each week, all on treadmill mainly due to snow and the fact it gave me the confidence I could stop at anytime!! My first effort back was 5k in and around 30 mins with mostly jogging and bit of walking. Yesterday I "ran" 2.8 mile in 20 mins. Do u need the big miles or do shorter sharper runs suffice. My goal is 5k in under 20, don't want to go further as history of back problems prob won't allow me

You must have looked after yourself in your 2 year break from exercise. To go from 30min 5k to 20min 4.75k is good going in a matter of weeks. Surely the target of 5k in 20 mins will be easy for you to achieve.
Pleasantly surprised at my base level of fitness. Non smoker and not the same opportunity for feeds of stout these days!! Still a fair bit to go to break the target tho. Have ran that time in the past so would be hopefully, but you need to be in fair shape to hit it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2015, 11:38:45 PM
I regularly run that time over that distance but to get 5K under 20ins is actually harder than you think...the last few hundred yards are desperate!! But good lucks anyways
Title: Running
Post by: No1 on February 12, 2015, 10:09:47 PM
Ben Dearg Coast 10k on Sunday 22nd February at 1pm. Start line at Kilclief GAC just 2 miles from Strangford. 

Nice flat course with beautiful scenery to kick start your racing season in 2015. A great post race spread also!!!

If you want anymore details PM me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 14, 2015, 03:46:37 PM
Doing parkrun this am and the calf went at about 2.75 mile. Feckin sore now. Setback on the 20 min 5k target! :-(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 16, 2015, 12:56:58 PM
The pace (pardon the pun) of this thread seems to have slowed somewhat.  :-[

Decent week after a rather hectic 30 day spell that saw me running most days, albeit the odd rest day and only for 30 mins a day but was normally at high intensity.

Last week was:

Monday - easy recovery run for 30mins on threadmill to sweat the beers out from the weekend (first of the year)
Wednesday - Interval session of sorts. 2km warm up then 3 x 1km at 3.26, 3.33 and 3.36. 2km cool down. Should have hit better times but breathing and legs just weren't in it. It was a tight session though.
Saturday  - only 3.5miles but a killer session. All on pretty steep hills in local park. You literally start at bottom run up to top, go down other side, reach bottom and return over to far side, reach bottom and repeat. At easy pace but a real leg burner.
Sunday - First early morning ten miler of the year. Took a while to get legs going but was a beautiful, bright mild morning. Did just over the ten with a average pace of 7.35 per mile. Felt it yesterday evening.

A few 5kms coming up locally so planning in giving them a good run to see where I'm at but intend to keep building up the long runs and weekly miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on February 16, 2015, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: No1 on February 12, 2015, 10:09:47 PM
Ben Dearg Coast 10k on Sunday 22nd February at 1pm. Start line at Kilclief GAC just 2 miles from Strangford. 

Nice flat course with beautiful scenery to kick start your racing season in 2015. A great post race spread also!!!

If you want anymore details PM me.

Get the count man to do it with you, he was out for a run on Sunday morning.

Managed my first run of the year later on that day, 5 miler, just under 49 minutes, feckin wind was awful at times, but happy enough as I've done SFA since november!

Need to get the trainers sorted though, feckin blister on the ankle, burst and all!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2015, 01:04:56 PM
Doing very little. Hard to get motivated.

First ParkRun of the year at the weekend and broke 25 mins which I definitely wasn't expecting. So not that bad a place to start the year I suppose.

10k coming up in early March so need to start running regularly again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2015, 01:46:19 PM
Haven't run much this year at all. 
But that's changing tonight, I'm signing up to Strabane/Lifford half marathon on 26 April as I do better when I have a plan to follow.

Has anyone used the my-asics app?  Really keen to use a training app so that I don't have to keep looking at my watch and keeping time for trying to do the tempo runs.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 16, 2015, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2015, 01:46:19 PM
Haven't run much this year at all. 
But that's changing tonight, I'm signing up to Strabane/Lifford half marathon on 26 April as I do better when I have a plan to follow.

Has anyone used the my-asics app?  Really keen to use a training app so that I don't have to keep looking at my watch and keeping time for trying to do the tempo runs.

Looked at that app once upon a time but found that with the Garmin, you can set it up to do everything that an app can do without the bulk of a smartphone. I'd rarely run with the phone even on me now as I find it a distraction and I don't listen to music as much as I did.

A flick of the wrist will tell you all from the watch or you can set pace monitors on it for Tempo runs.

But everyone to there own and if you run with a phone, then the app could very well suit you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
I'm just being lazy, wanting an app to tell me when to speed up and slow down on tempo runs without having to concentrate. 

I am used to running with a phone around my arm so I'm not too worried about that. 

My last (and only) half marathon was 2.04 so really want to get under the 2hr mark. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 16, 2015, 07:52:43 PM
Had massive plans for loads of running this week but am down with severe manflu! Ran a 5k pb last week and 10 miles on the Monday after in 75mins but been sick since and can't shake it!  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 16, 2015, 08:01:16 PM
QuoteGet the count man to do it with you, he was out for a run on Sunday morning.

Managed my first run of the year later on that day, 5 miler, just under 49 minutes, feckin wind was awful at times, but happy enough as I've done SFA since november!

Need to get the trainers sorted though, feckin blister on the ankle, burst and all!

Nothing stopping the two of youse coming over and showing us what proper hurling men are made of! I think our friend is tipping away at the park runs aswell, don't think he trained as hard when he was playing!

I'll give him a shout and see what he is at, might have to bribe him with a pint afterwards!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on February 16, 2015, 10:23:29 PM

Injury and 'flu' have ruined my training for Barcelona. Only ran 4 times since 20 miler on Jan. 25th so that s over for me. Did a 5 miler this evening and it felt like I had never ran before in my life even though pace was modest enough. Worst run of injury/illness in a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2015, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: No1 on February 16, 2015, 08:01:16 PM
QuoteGet the count man to do it with you, he was out for a run on Sunday morning.

Managed my first run of the year later on that day, 5 miler, just under 49 minutes, feckin wind was awful at times, but happy enough as I've done SFA since november!

Need to get the trainers sorted though, feckin blister on the ankle, burst and all!

Nothing stopping the two of youse coming over and showing us what proper hurling men are made of! I think our friend is tipping away at the park runs aswell, don't think he trained as hard when he was playing!

I'll give him a shout and see what he is at, might have to bribe him with a pint afterwards!

Was talking to him last night and we're both up in the hurling heartland of Bangor at an underage blitz.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 17, 2015, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
I'm just being lazy, wanting an app to tell me when to speed up and slow down on tempo runs without having to concentrate. 

I am used to running with a phone around my arm so I'm not too worried about that. 

My last (and only) half marathon was 2.04 so really want to get under the 2hr mark.

What are your 5k/10k times Rois?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 17, 2015, 09:49:37 PM
Quotewas talking to him last night and we're both up in the hurling heartland of Bangor at an underage blitz.

Fair enough, a much better way to be spending your time. No sneaking into The Pit Stop afterwards!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 18, 2015, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2015, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
I'm just being lazy, wanting an app to tell me when to speed up and slow down on tempo runs without having to concentrate. 

I am used to running with a phone around my arm so I'm not too worried about that. 

My last (and only) half marathon was 2.04 so really want to get under the 2hr mark.

What are your 5k/10k times Rois?
5k PB is 24.46 and 10k PB is about 54 mins (just under I think).  I've tried but never really got into the speed training. I seem to settle on one pace which is about 9min10-20 per mile. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 18, 2015, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 18, 2015, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2015, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 16, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
I'm just being lazy, wanting an app to tell me when to speed up and slow down on tempo runs without having to concentrate. 

I am used to running with a phone around my arm so I'm not too worried about that. 

My last (and only) half marathon was 2.04 so really want to get under the 2hr mark.

What are your 5k/10k times Rois?
5k PB is 24.46 and 10k PB is about 54 mins (just under I think).  I've tried but never really got into the speed training. I seem to settle on one pace which is about 9min10-20 per mile.

If you were running those times now I would think you could break 2 hours for the half. Have you ran 10 miles? A couple of training runs at that distance in under 90 mins might give you the confidence to pace yourself at 9 min miles or less in a half. (NB You have done as many half marathons as me so take any advice of mine with a Heath warning). 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 20, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Running has been non existent for me the past while.
Really need to get back into it as I've really gone backwards as regards fitness. Did go for a run last Saturday but struggled through 3 miles before I gave up.

Anyone any tips or recommend a good training program for starting from almost from scratch again?
I'm not gone so far back that I need to do couch to 5k again but I'm not far off it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 20, 2015, 10:11:43 AM
Some advice please. I ran ten miles on Monday, since then my left knee has been sore at the side and back of it. Not unbearable but noticeable and not all the time but like a jolt when I stand up. Have been putting anti inflammation gel on if and have rested. Was due to run 8 miles tomorrow. Should I leave it or wear a strap or something. Any advice appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 10:20:15 AM
Laoislad -

I often recommend the 30:10 rule for people coming back from injury/lay off.

1/3 of normal pace
1/3 of distance
Increasing by 10% weekly increments.

It's a graduated return to running. Won't put too much stress on body and will allow time for it to adapt to increased loads when you start back.

Charlie:
I'll PM you.

Bit of advice in general though, stay away from anti inflams for injuries in general....inflammation is an essential part of healing in the early days and by blocking it actually you can SLOW down healing. So paracetamol if you are in pain. The old ICE still works too in first 72 hours, 10 mins on maximum, lose affect longer than 10 mins so wasting your time having it on for 30 mins...10on/10off whenever you like.
Some light evidence for anti inflams work for reactive tendons, like if you whip your achilles off corner of a chair and it flares up, can't be used then for 1-2 days. But stay away from then for majority of injuries....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 20, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 20, 2015, 10:34:58 AM
Great advice as always from the exile  ;D

For LL, I'd also add that nothing helps to motivate than to target a run or race in the future and commit to running it. Even if that's a 5km, 10km or half down the line. Target it and it will help you get back out and running on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 10:41:27 AM
haha...sound Bingo. I was out at London Colney....Arsenals training ground on Wednesday...like going to Disneyland to check out facilities...

Also...did ye see the Armagh 5K results yesterday....56 lads under 15 mins... :o

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/14921_431200700376328_834983260046590050_n.jpg?oh=d0e5d88ea8e9bb4ee323b63b3423bd10&oe=55864DC3&__gda__=1431071301_308e2bcb8ae6d56428bd87ac5bccc06f)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on February 20, 2015, 10:56:26 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 10:41:27 AM
haha...sound Bingo. I was out at London Colney....Arsenals training ground on Wednesday...like going to Disneyland to check out facilities...

Also...did ye see the Armagh 5K results yesterday....56 lads under 15 mins... :o

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/14921_431200700376328_834983260046590050_n.jpg?oh=d0e5d88ea8e9bb4ee323b63b3423bd10&oe=55864DC3&__gda__=1431071301_308e2bcb8ae6d56428bd87ac5bccc06f)

Jesus Christ was it all downhill??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 20, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
I was keeping an eye on that on Twitter BM.

What a race! I'd fully intended to tip down to it but had a club meeting that put paid to that.

Its a savage race and they really had a high class field this year as it was the 25th anniversary with the high profile Jonathon Brownlee and Ieun Thomas. Think the qualifying time was sub 17 but even then you'd be wasting your time.

The local runner Conor Duffy give it a go and finished midtable. He'd rarely be outside the top 3 in even top level Irish meets.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2015, 11:28:03 AM
BM that armagh race is a great one. You need to have a sub 17 to get entry into it. Second last was 16:26!! I'd say you would border on threatening 16 at that!

A guy called Dermot Kerr in Armagh knows loads of top runners and attracts them all. Best 5k about by a long way in teh whole of the UK for quality.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
Incredible depth in that race, great to see. Would have been last so by ages!
Managed a 16.46 parkrun fairly comfortable 2 weeks ago in a park run. 3.5 mile run there and back as well. Been nursing a little bit of MTSS since last week (Medial Tibial Stress Syndrome)...better diagnositic term for "shin splints".
Have Hampton Court Half marathon on Sunday morning at 8.30am...I know, feck sake..up before 6 to get there. Have had to ease off miles big time since so not ideal prep but will give it a crack. Cross trainer and rower to keep aerobic fitness up. Will be taking about a month off after I reckon because bone will need to calm down after 13.2 miles clipping it.
Reduced dairy intake since Christmas and combination of that, more races and miles flared up the tibia. Own fault, should have been taken calcium.magnesium supplements! Sure we live and learn!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 20, 2015, 11:57:27 AM
Is that one of the causes of shin splits? lack of dairy/calcium?

Do calve compression guards help to any extent for it? Know a few fellas who wear them for that reason.

Best of luck Sunday, eyeballs out as we say! Any time in mind?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 12:16:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on February 20, 2015, 11:57:27 AM
Is that one of the causes of shin splits? lack of dairy/calcium?

Do calve compression guards help to any extent for it? Know a few fellas who wear them for that reason.

Best of luck Sunday, eyeballs out as we say! Any time in mind?

Good few potential causes for them....

Reduced calcium/magnesium is one. When you run, you put stress through your bones..this is a good thing, causes cells to make and lay down new bone..vital for bone health. However, if you load more than your bone has time to lay down new bone you start to develop issues.

Calf tightness is another, not able to properly absorb ground reaction force and its transferred to bone.

Previous calf injury is another, slightly weaker and much same as tightness, can't absorb ground reaction forces.

Stride pattern is another, you hear some lads/girls...thump thump thump on the ground. Increasing steps per minute reduces contact time with ground. General rule is 180 per minute...so next time you are out, count every time your right foot hits the ground for 30 seconds...should be around 45....multiple it by 4 to see how close you are to 180.

If you are way below 180, may need to get a snappier stride pattern. This takes time to change so don't panic.

Will try for 5.50s per mile and see how i'm fixed for 1.16.31 PB from Carlingford this time last year! Time flown... :o

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2015, 12:36:09 PM
Ankle mobility can be a big factor too BM.

I also have MTSS BM hence why I post so infrequently in this thread...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 20, 2015, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 20, 2015, 12:36:09 PM
Ankle mobility can be a big factor too BM.

I also have MTSS BM hence why I post so infrequently in this thread...
Aye, ankle mobility is a tricky one...calf been related to soleus/calf tightness or bony which you can't do much about, called ankle equinus.

Have a look at this article...decent.

http://www.runningwritings.com/2012/10/injury-series-medial-tibial-stress.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2015, 02:15:25 PM
Will do. Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 20, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 20, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Running has been non existent for me the past while.
Really need to get back into it as I've really gone backwards as regards fitness. Did go for a run last Saturday but struggled through 3 miles before I gave up.

Anyone any tips or recommend a good training program for starting from almost from scratch again?
I'm not gone so far back that I need to do couch to 5k again but I'm not far off it!

Only back at it myself after 4 weeks with no running at all and a pretty spotty 4-5 weeks prior to that. Ran my usual lunchtime 5k on Wednesday and was fecked after it, despite a pretty leisurely pace. Ran it again today, even slower, and the legs were giving me wee warnings along the way. It's such a pain to have let a decent level of fitness go but couldn't be helped - had a bitch of a sinusitis/head cold that I just couldn't go running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 22, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 20, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 20, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Running has been non existent for me the past while.
Really need to get back into it as I've really gone backwards as regards fitness. Did go for a run last Saturday but struggled through 3 miles before I gave up.

Anyone any tips or recommend a good training program for starting from almost from scratch again?
I'm not gone so far back that I need to do couch to 5k again but I'm not far off it!

Only back at it myself after 4 weeks with no running at all and a pretty spotty 4-5 weeks prior to that. Ran my usual lunchtime 5k on Wednesday and was fecked after it, despite a pretty leisurely pace. Ran it again today, even slower, and the legs were giving me wee warnings along the way. It's such a pain to have let a decent level of fitness go but couldn't be helped - had a bitch of a sinusitis/head cold that I just couldn't go running.
Entering week two of a head cold! Just can't shift it at all! Did a 10 km in Omagh yesterday and coughed and dribbled most of the way around. Found it tough as I haven't done anything in a fortnight. Ran about 43.30 or so, way short of what I think I can do! Cara 10mile in 3 weeks and no miles done! I hate February!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2015, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: CD on February 22, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 20, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 20, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Running has been non existent for me the past while.
Really need to get back into it as I've really gone backwards as regards fitness. Did go for a run last Saturday but struggled through 3 miles before I gave up.

Anyone any tips or recommend a good training program for starting from almost from scratch again?
I'm not gone so far back that I need to do couch to 5k again but I'm not far off it!

Only back at it myself after 4 weeks with no running at all and a pretty spotty 4-5 weeks prior to that. Ran my usual lunchtime 5k on Wednesday and was fecked after it, despite a pretty leisurely pace. Ran it again today, even slower, and the legs were giving me wee warnings along the way. It's such a pain to have let a decent level of fitness go but couldn't be helped - had a bitch of a sinusitis/head cold that I just couldn't go running.
Entering week two of a head cold! Just can't shift it at all! Did a 10 km in Omagh yesterday and coughed and dribbled most of the way around. Found it tough as I haven't done anything in a fortnight. Ran about 43.30 or so, way short of what I think I can do! Cara 10mile in 3 weeks and no miles done! I hate February!

43 is brilliant and that's not taking in your cold!! Im sitting around 45 at minute (working issues) but can do 42 so still fair bit off what I can do.... Was to do the 'Craic' run and organized loads of friends to do it to only realise I'm in fecking England all bloody week!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 22, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
1.15.58, PB by 33 seconds..am on the Guinness now for the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 22, 2015, 01:36:10 PM
Fantastic BM well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 22, 2015, 02:42:28 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
1.15.58, PB by 33 seconds..am on the Guinness now for the day.

For a half?

FFS! Great time.

My guinness PB might compare better than my half marathon time does.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 22, 2015, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
1.15.58, PB by 33 seconds..am on the Guinness now for the day.

Unreal. Pints well earned after that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on February 22, 2015, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2015, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: CD on February 22, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 20, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 20, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
Running has been non existent for me the past while.
Really need to get back into it as I've really gone backwards as regards fitness. Did go for a run last Saturday but struggled through 3 miles before I gave up.

Anyone any tips or recommend a good training program for starting from almost from scratch again?
I'm not gone so far back that I need to do couch to 5k again but I'm not far off it!

Only back at it myself after 4 weeks with no running at all and a pretty spotty 4-5 weeks prior to that. Ran my usual lunchtime 5k on Wednesday and was fecked after it, despite a pretty leisurely pace. Ran it again today, even slower, and the legs were giving me wee warnings along the way. It's such a pain to have let a decent level of fitness go but couldn't be helped - had a bitch of a sinusitis/head cold that I just couldn't go running.
Entering week two of a head cold! Just can't shift it at all! Did a 10 km in Omagh yesterday and coughed and dribbled most of the way around. Found it tough as I haven't done anything in a fortnight. Ran about 43.30 or so, way short of what I think I can do! Cara 10mile in 3 weeks and no miles done! I hate February!

43 is brilliant and that's not taking in your cold!! Im sitting around 45 at minute (working issues) but can do 42 so still fair bit off what I can do.... Was to do the 'Craic' run and organized loads of friends to do it to only realise I'm in fecking England all bloody week!!!!
I was looking forward to it too! Going to sit it out as well and allow my wife to run that one while I look after the kids! It's only 3 days after Cara so a rest would be better preparation for the Omagh half on 28th! Going to go watch it though - looks like being a big turn out!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 22, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
1.15.58, PB by 33 seconds..am on the Guinness now for the day.

you mentioned Carlingford half in an earlier post,doing it in a couple of weeks, is it a difficult course?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 22, 2015, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 22, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
1.15.58, PB by 33 seconds..am on the Guinness now for the day.

Super stuff lad. Enjoy the well earned stout!

Ran a 5km yesterday, finished in 19.04. Was hoping to get in under the 19m mark but didn't happen. Happy out all the same.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
Great run BM. Good to see your hard work paying off! Mileage isn't everything once you have the fitness up. I actually find myself a lot more responsive to tempos than intervals but both are good for getting the pace up no doubt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2015, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
Great run BM. Good to see your hard work paying off! Mileage isn't everything once you have the fitness up. I actually find myself a lot more responsive to tempos than intervals but both are good for getting the pace up no doubt.
Cheers chief...enjoying the shorter stuff, marathon is unreal but nice not to have all eggs in one basket and be able to do other races
,Agreed...you can fool yourself by doing a good track session with breaks...it's the 30-40 min tempos when you have to grind it out, helps you psychologically as well....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 26, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
11 miles this afternoon in 1.45. hail sleet and snow from 5 miles in. Think my target of 2.05 for half will be a struggle . Does it ever get easier?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2015, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 26, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
11 miles this afternoon in 1.45. hail sleet and snow from 5 miles in. Think my target of 2.05 for half will be a struggle . Does it ever get easier?

Course it does.... You'll be able to left the tempo in the final quarter.. Providing you don't go helter schelter ... Pick a pacer 2 hour pacer and stay in front of him, then see how you feel
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2015, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 26, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
11 miles this afternoon in 1.45. hail sleet and snow from 5 miles in. Think my target of 2.05 for half will be a struggle . Does it ever get easier?

You will be quicker in the actual race. You get sucked along with the energy of the group and will perform better than in training.

I found taking it handy for the first 5k and then, if you feel good pushing it, worked well for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on February 28, 2015, 12:37:04 AM
cheers guys, this is a great thread for motivation, advice etc etc. Its a weird game, dread a long run but cant wait to get stuck into it. world of fecking pain, but addictive, so addictive.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2015, 08:29:18 AM
Did the Lisburn half last year. Started out before the 1.45 pacers.... Had my Garmin watch on so knew what pace I wanted, kept at it for 6 miles but body told me that id a lot more to give... Pushed on and final 3 miles I was sprinting, legs felt strong and all I wanted to do was pass the runners in front... 1.38 for a half marathon. No real training prior, just my usual 6 mile runs....

You'll find a lot more in the tank, your body will let you know, just don't start off too fast
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on February 28, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
Folks, recently started back at football training but my legs are really heavy during the long runs and I'm lagging behind the group. Training is on the field and obviously the wet/heavy ground doesn't help but anything in particular I can do? Would keep active during the week with circuits/kettlebells so fitness isn't really the issue. More jogging on the roads?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 28, 2015, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on February 28, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
Folks, recently started back at football training but my legs are really heavy during the long runs and I'm lagging behind the group. Training is on the field and obviously the wet/heavy ground doesn't help but anything in particular I can do? Would keep active during the week with circuits/kettlebells so fitness isn't really the issue. More jogging on the roads?
High intensity circuits..kettle bells...30m-60m sprint intervals...

Football is all about repeated high intensity accelerations / decelerations. Maybe 1 run of 5-10km a week to help aerobic capacity but that's it. Shorter higher intensity stuff be better use of time..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 28, 2015, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on February 26, 2015, 10:33:10 PM
11 miles this afternoon in 1.45. hail sleet and snow from 5 miles in. Think my target of 2.05 for half will be a struggle . Does it ever get easier?

I have always felt that long runs bring me on in leaps and bounds. You'll whittle that time down. 2.05 should be within your grasp.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 04, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Quick question. Doing a half marathon on Sunday and want to break 1 30. What do I have to average a kilometre. And are you better going steady or balls out till nature takes its course?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 04, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 04, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Quick question. Doing a half marathon on Sunday and want to break 1 30. What do I have to average a kilometre. And are you better going steady or balls out till nature takes its course?
4.15 per Km, 6.50s per mile...
Even paced running all the way...would you have ran anything similar before? Picking a time and working back can lead to problems if haven't trained at pace close to what's required...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 05, 2015, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 04, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 04, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
Quick question. Doing a half marathon on Sunday and want to break 1 30. What do I have to average a kilometre. And are you better going steady or balls out till nature takes its course?
4.15 per Km, 6.50s per mile...
Even paced running all the way...would you have ran anything similar before? Picking a time and working back can lead to problems if haven't trained at pace close to what's required...

Done few halfs before. Done a 1 31 last year. Hoping to get under 1 30 this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 07, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.

Good man well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 08, 2015, 07:31:52 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.
Brilliant, well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 08, 2015, 08:11:48 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.
Great running Charlie! Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 08, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.
Mighty stuff...well done!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.

Good man, you stick with pacers?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on March 08, 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on March 07, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
carlingford half marathon done this morning in 1.58, delighted to get under 2 hours, thanks for all the advice.

Good man, you stick with pacers?

Thanks everyone. There was no pacers. Well not that i saw anyway. I just took it easy enough at the start as you all advised. Few hills in the first five miles but grand after that. There was a nice downhill to the sea then along the coast with the wind at your back so pushed it on as best I could. Knowing the 2 hours was realistic gave me great encouragement. The last couple of miles were hard but great buzz finishing. Hard to beat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 08, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
Lads and ladies, anyone doing Cara Bundoran run next weekend? Did the distance this morning so going to give it a rattle.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
Mark English just won silver at the European Indoors in the 800m.

Fair play to him!

http://www.rte.ie/sport/athletics/2015/0308/685458-live-european-indoor-championships/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/athletics/2015/0308/685458-live-european-indoor-championships/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2015, 03:03:01 PM
Video, looks like he left himself too much to do to my untrained eye. Did well to get silver in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrcmmA7XDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrcmmA7XDA)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 08, 2015, 03:05:34 PM
Savage performance...never in contention for a gold with the form of the polish lad...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 08, 2015, 03:05:34 PM
Savage performance...never in contention for a gold with the form of the polish lad...

Still very young too so hopefully we'll see a few golds from him at this level at least. Disappointed ciara mageean wasn't at the games. She has the potential to do big things so hopefully injuries don't curb this. It's  every so often you get an irish athlete who's genuine world class and in these two i think we have that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 08, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Our best male runner is English and our best female runner is Britton.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
Mageean has the potential to make a bigger impact than britton. She's had some big runs in america beating world class athletes. Britton could make an impact on the marathon - hopefully - but unfortunately seems a bit short in the pace stakes to be threatening for medals. (Track that is. Obviously she has done great in xc)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 09, 2015, 03:08:48 PM
Anyone know anything about Mary Cullen's form? She ran a brilliant road race in Raheny the back end of last year and seemed to be talking of Europen Cross Country which is end of this month.I think. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 10, 2015, 05:37:03 PM
New world record at 200m for the M95 (95 years and older) category:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB9aTP4bFf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB9aTP4bFf0)

To put that into perspective, that is at a little over 23 min pace for the 5k, which is better than me at the moment. Some going for a 95 year old.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 10, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
That's just class.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 12, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
This is crazy
http://www.the42.ie/visually-impaired-runner-womens-mini-marathon-1986440-Mar2015/

QuoteQuote:
SINEAD KANE, WHO has just 5% vision in both eyes, has been told she cannot take part in this year's Women's Mini Marathon because her guide is a man..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 12, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 12, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
This is crazy
http://www.the42.ie/visually-impaired-runner-womens-mini-marathon-1986440-Mar2015/

QuoteQuote:
SINEAD KANE, WHO has just 5% vision in both eyes, has been told she cannot take part in this year's Women's Mini Marathon because her guide is a man..

They have since changed their mind and she can run with her male guide. Common sense.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on March 12, 2015, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
Mageean has the potential to make a bigger impact than britton. She's had some big runs in america beating world class athletes. Britton could make an impact on the marathon - hopefully - but unfortunately seems a bit short in the pace stakes to be threatening for medals. (Track that is. Obviously she has done great in xc)

Ciara has bolloxed her Achilles again it seems, she's had no luck with injuries over the last two years or so!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 14, 2015, 09:26:47 PM
Did the Cara 10 mile today. Beautiful morning - has to the nicest race on the calendar! Managed to go almost 10 mins faster than last year! All good!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 23, 2015, 09:13:51 AM
Has been a better month of training for me in March. Hadn't really done much this year so far but have got a lot of nice runs in.
Trying to do more interval training and hill runs to take a shot at a few pb's this year.

Going to do a few park runs soon and then do all the Dublin race series again. Haven't decided yet on doing the Marathon again this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

A few of the Rockets done Amsterdam a few years back, very flat course and great start/finish in the stadium. One part of it they didn't like was part of the route that heads out into the countryside along a canal or river, its an in/out route at that stage and they said it was very quiet and boring but that may not impact on you as you'll be bombing along anyway. Outside of that they really enjoyed it, great support in city, decent numbers but not totally crowded at start so you could settle into your own pace reasonably early.

And of course they'd a great night out after it!

Be too soon after Berlin for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

A few of the Rockets done Amsterdam a few years back, very flat course and great start/finish in the stadium. One part of it they didn't like was part of the route that heads out into the countryside along a canal or river, its an in/out route at that stage and they said it was very quiet and boring but that may not impact on you as you'll be bombing along anyway. Outside of that they really enjoyed it, great support in city, decent numbers but not totally crowded at start so you could settle into your own pace reasonably early.

And of course they'd a great night out after it!

Be too soon after Berlin for me.
Sound, that's me sold so. Ya, don't give 2 shites about scenery really. If i want to look at a view, I'd get a open bus tour of the place!
Berlin will be class, heard it's a ridiculously well run marathon...no surprises there so. When are you starting?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

A few of the Rockets done Amsterdam a few years back, very flat course and great start/finish in the stadium. One part of it they didn't like was part of the route that heads out into the countryside along a canal or river, its an in/out route at that stage and they said it was very quiet and boring but that may not impact on you as you'll be bombing along anyway. Outside of that they really enjoyed it, great support in city, decent numbers but not totally crowded at start so you could settle into your own pace reasonably early.

And of course they'd a great night out after it!

Be too soon after Berlin for me.
Sound, that's me sold so. Ya, don't give 2 shites about scenery really. If i want to look at a view, I'd get a open bus tour of the place!
Berlin will be class, heard it's a ridiculously well run marathon...no surprises there so. When are you starting?

Didn't think you would! Will be plenty of scenery after the run  ;)

Talking about scenery, we where meeting for the sunday morning run yesterday and Conor Duffy was out. You might have seen his name about, ran U23 XC Europeans this year and doing really well. Anyway, he was chatting and saying he'd not be going too hard, it was an "over the hedge" run in that he out for a chat and look round. Him and another lad got ready to go then and said they'd start at 6min mile pace and hold it steady till the last few! Over the hedge me arse!!

Leave it to the Germans to run something well. Looking at a few plans at the minute and will start in earnest towards end of May. Targetting the Newry half for a go at sub 1.30, take a week off and then build up for Berlin. Just to get a plan that I like and can commit to. Doing about 4 runs a week at the minute, so tipping along with a 10miler on Sunday. A few of us going to start building that up now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 23, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

Thinking of Achill myself. Running has not gone well this year for various reasons but am back at it now and am giving that half marathon serious consideration.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 23, 2015, 12:59:29 PM
Question for you all, I think I remember a 2 day team event last year somewhere out west, can you refresh my memory of where it was and if anyone knows if its on this year again - remember thinking at the time it would be great craic but wasn't at home for it, cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 23, 2015, 12:59:29 PM
Question for you all, I think I remember a 2 day team event last year somewhere out west, can you refresh my memory of where it was and if anyone knows if its on this year again - remember thinking at the time it would be great craic but wasn't at home for it, cheers

Could be wrong but was it the Solus relay that was in Sligo? Heard a few bad things about it, lack of organisation, poor facilities and lack of stewarding but others seemed happy with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 23, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 23, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 23, 2015, 12:59:29 PM
Question for you all, I think I remember a 2 day team event last year somewhere out west, can you refresh my memory of where it was and if anyone knows if its on this year again - remember thinking at the time it would be great craic but wasn't at home for it, cheers

Could be wrong but was it the Solus relay that was in Sligo? Heard a few bad things about it, lack of organisation, poor facilities and lack of stewarding but others seemed happy with it.

Close enough, was able to find it based on that, its sionnachrelay.com (http://sionnachrelay.com) disappointing to hear the bad reviews because I love the sound of it - possibly teething problems (assume it was its first year last year and add in wishful thinking)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 23, 2015, 02:15:55 PM
We should enter a gaaboard team!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 23, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 23, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

Thinking of Achill myself. Running has not gone well this year for various reasons but am back at it now and am giving that half marathon serious consideration.

I have been pathetic since doing a half in November. I've put on over half of the weight I lost last year too. It is time to do something about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 23, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 23, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 23, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Thinking about Achill half marathon on July 4th and Amsterdam marathon 18th October.

Amsterdam supposed to be a very flat course, guaranteed entry and get a weekend out of it too. Any interest here?

Thinking of Achill myself. Running has not gone well this year for various reasons but am back at it now and am giving that half marathon serious consideration.

I have been pathetic since doing a half in November. I've put on over half of the weight I lost last year too. It is time to do something about it.

Good man. I have been the same but a good week starting Paddys Day has me started off and thinking optimistically. Have a deadly 3 mile hill circuit starting and finishing at my house that's a really good time efficient run. Just back now, feel great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 28, 2015, 09:34:13 PM
Omagh half marathon today! Had an absolute nightmare run. Was hoping for 1.35 or just under. Ran a decent first 5 miles in 35 minutes, an uncomfortable next 5 in 40 minutes and a nightmare last 3.1 when I had to run through treacle to the finish. Could barely lift my legs. I'm so used to always finishing with a couple of fast miles and it's never happened before. Had no energy, felt sick etc. A combination of a really bad couple of months with injuries and head colds I think. Have only ran four times in the past few weeks and assumed I'd have no bother with this! So wrong. Last 3.1 was 29 minutes!
Great event - great organistIon etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: CD on March 28, 2015, 09:34:13 PM
Omagh half marathon today! Had an absolute nightmare run. Was hoping for 1.35 or just under. Ran a decent first 5 miles in 35 minutes, an uncomfortable next 5 in 40 minutes and a nightmare last 3.1 when I had to run through treacle to the finish. Could barely lift my legs. I'm so used to always finishing with a couple of fast miles and it's never happened before. Had no energy, felt sick etc. A combination of a really bad couple of months with injuries and head colds I think. Have only ran four times in the past few weeks and assumed I'd have no bother with this! So wrong. Last 3.1 was 29 minutes!
Great event - great organistIon etc.

Hard luck CD. 1.35 would be a splendid time, you probably started off way to quick? Was there hills after first 5 miles?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on March 29, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: CD on March 28, 2015, 09:34:13 PM
Omagh half marathon today! Had an absolute nightmare run. Was hoping for 1.35 or just under. Ran a decent first 5 miles in 35 minutes, an uncomfortable next 5 in 40 minutes and a nightmare last 3.1 when I had to run through treacle to the finish. Could barely lift my legs. I'm so used to always finishing with a couple of fast miles and it's never happened before. Had no energy, felt sick etc. A combination of a really bad couple of months with injuries and head colds I think. Have only ran four times in the past few weeks and assumed I'd have no bother with this! So wrong. Last 3.1 was 29 minutes!
Great event - great organistIon etc.

Hard luck CD. 1.35 would be a splendid time, you probably started off way to quick? Was there hills after first 5 miles?
It felt like a succession of hills to me MR but that was just the place I was in! I was freezing cold for last few miles. I ran 7.10 minute miles in Bundoran 2 weeks ago really comfortably so felt confident I could go out and run the same. Just had a really bad day! I'll put it down to experience and move on! How're you running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 06:34:56 PM
Not much in terms of improvement... Wouldn't take me long to get to my pbs from last year have just be so busy with new job and was in England for 7 months, so getting back into it.need to target a race to maybe push me on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 30, 2015, 05:46:35 PM
CD - that run reminds me of my Omagh half in 2014. Just couldn't put my finger on it but didn't enjoy the run and it felt like a real effort. On the day I put it down to two things - felt I started too far back at the start and was ducking and weaving at the start through the town, very hard to get settled in a pace and then from the 10 miles to home, I just felt that long drag out of the town seemed to never end. Only when you turned off the back road by the river near Healy park and run for home did I feel like I was running again.

Just didn't enjoy the run that day and it was a real effort. And its a great race with big crowd and run to perfection, so no fault there.

Never entered my head to run it again this year.

Had longest run of the year yesterday, a grand 12 miles and it was great, 3 of us ran together and was great to have the company and it flew by. Pace felt easy, which was a surprise as it was 7.35 per mile but it was very consistent for the whole run, makes all the difference.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

Good to see you back at it. You committed to any races?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 05:25:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

Good to see you back at it. You committed to any races?

Not yet and I know I need to. I was just trying to get a base level before I thought about anything. I'm going to do the Warriors Run again in August. Will be looking for 10k's and would like to do a 10 miler in 4-6 weeks. There's a 5k/10k/10miler in Easkey, Sligo on April 21st. Might have a crack at the 10k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

I use to think that but I'm enjoying doing the faster interval stuff at the moment.
Maybe it's because I did so many long runs for marathon training so it's nice just doing shorter faster runs right now.
I'm actually liking the pain of doing hill repeats at the moment  ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 31, 2015, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

I use to think that but I'm enjoying doing the faster interval stuff at the moment.
Maybe it's because I did so many long runs for marathon training so it's nice just doing shorter faster runs right now.
I'm actually liking the pain of doing hill repeats at the moment  ;D
Aye, enjoy the challenge of a interval session, I've a fartlek on the cards tomorrow.....3 mins on with 90 seconds jog recovery x 8-10 reps depending on how it goes...
Have an eye on a 10k first Sunday in May and the Achill half in July, tough course..hill at 10 miles that has an ambulance parked at the top...enough said...

Some amount of races though, the popping up everywhere....I remember a few years ago it was a mission to find a race!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2015, 11:25:06 PM
David Rudisha Doc

http://youtu.be/PXBYrKdx7og
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on April 01, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 01, 2015, 11:25:06 PM
David Rudisha Doc

http://youtu.be/PXBYrKdx7og

Good man, I must have a gander at that.

I was lucky enough to be in the stadium when he broke the world record at the 2012 Olympics, a memory that will live with me forever...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

I use to think that but I'm enjoying doing the faster interval stuff at the moment.
Maybe it's because I did so many long runs for marathon training so it's nice just doing shorter faster runs right now.
I'm actually liking the pain of doing hill repeats at the moment  ;D

This sprung into my head yesterday doing a tight interval session in the pouring rain out at the track round the field. Must say it was a great runout and enjoyed it in the end, but on second interval I was struggling to see any enjoyment  ;D. Did a 2km warm up, then 1km, 90sec jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 2km, 1min jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 1km, 1km cool down. The intervals done at 5km pace.

Great run out and the last 1km was by far the fastest but I did really go for it, legs felt great in fairness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 02, 2015, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

I use to think that but I'm enjoying doing the faster interval stuff at the moment.
Maybe it's because I did so many long runs for marathon training so it's nice just doing shorter faster runs right now.
I'm actually liking the pain of doing hill repeats at the moment  ;D

This sprung into my head yesterday doing a tight interval session in the pouring rain out at the track round the field. Must say it was a great runout and enjoyed it in the end, but on second interval I was struggling to see any enjoyment  ;D. Did a 2km warm up, then 1km, 90sec jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 2km, 1min jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 1km, 1km cool down. The intervals done at 5km pace.

Great run out and the last 1km was by far the fastest but I did really go for it, legs felt great in fairness.

You must be feckin bullet proof!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2015, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 02, 2015, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 02, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 31, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 31, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Just building up again and had mapped out a nice 5.5 mile route near the house on roads I hadn't ran on (and one I hadn't ever been on!) before. Took a wrong turn and ended up having to go back and added a mile to myself. Completely underestimated one hill and all told it was a lot tougher than I'd planned. Feel great since. The long runs really bring you on. That was the final phase of rebuilding the base I reckon. Another good 3-4 weeks and I'll be in pretty good shape.

The bright mornings and bit of stretch in he evenings is motivation in itself. Love the longer runs. When you relax into your rhythm it's great.

A long easy run is just hard to beat.

I use to think that but I'm enjoying doing the faster interval stuff at the moment.
Maybe it's because I did so many long runs for marathon training so it's nice just doing shorter faster runs right now.
I'm actually liking the pain of doing hill repeats at the moment  ;D

This sprung into my head yesterday doing a tight interval session in the pouring rain out at the track round the field. Must say it was a great runout and enjoyed it in the end, but on second interval I was struggling to see any enjoyment  ;D. Did a 2km warm up, then 1km, 90sec jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 2km, 1min jog, 1.5km, 1min jog, 1km, 1km cool down. The intervals done at 5km pace.

Great run out and the last 1km was by far the fastest but I did really go for it, legs felt great in fairness.

You must be feckin bullet proof!
Serious session! 60 second breaks after 1km intervals is an eye opener of a session!

Many from gaaboard have a strava account? I'd set up a group....v easy, just link your garmin or whatever GPS you have to strava account, updates automatically...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 02, 2015, 07:56:40 PM
Yeah go on set up a group BM.

I'm doing 1km x 5 at goal 5k pace with 400m jog in between for my intervals.
Though my goal 5k pace is probably Bingos rest jog pace!

Then every other week I'm doing 400m fast as I can with 400m jog inbetween and I'm up to 12 sets at the moment hoping to get up to be able to do about 20.

Also throwing in a few hill repeats which I actually really like even though they are tough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 03, 2015, 11:30:53 AM
I use my phone and the mapmyrun app. A guy I run with some times has a GPS watch and his recordings of our pace and distance are always more favourable and I'm not talking by a small amount.

What am I looking at costs wise for a decent GPS watch? Any advice? Is there and app for the phone for Strava?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 03, 2015, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 03, 2015, 11:30:53 AM
I use my phone and the mapmyrun app. A guy I run with some times has a GPS watch and his recordings of our pace and distance are always more favourable and I'm not talking by a small amount.

What am I looking at costs wise for a decent GPS watch? Any advice? Is there and app for the phone for Strava?

Yep, there is a strava app too...essentially same as mapmyrun....easy to use, basically social media/running log and they make some slick videos...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BV30EDMmn4

Can't go wrong with Garmin forerunner 10.....decent price for a good quality GPS watch, doesn't have bells and whistles of more expensive versions but does the job! Doesn't have a heart rate monitor built in but does the job otherwise!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2015, 12:32:46 PM
I got the garmin 610 off eBay awhile back.
Great watch and loads of features and not all that expensive.
Can't  remember now but I think I paid about €150.
It's great for setting training runs on it as it will beep when you are out of the zone you want to be in,be it pace wise or heart rate zone etc. Loads of other features on it also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Stall the Bailer on April 03, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
I'm using the garmin forerunner 15. Wouldn't go for a run without it. Similar watch to laoislad's by the sounds of it.
Any of you a member of a group on garmin connect?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 05, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
There's already a gaaboard strava BM, search GAABOARD, it's just been us cyclists so far
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 05, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 05, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
There's already a gaaboard strava BM, search GAABOARD, it's just been us cyclists so far

Where do you search for it in Strava? Not finding anything under 'Find friends'?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 05, 2015, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 05, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
There's already a gaaboard strava BM, search GAABOARD, it's just been us cyclists so far
Sure we couldn't be mixing with them riding 3 abreast on a country road cyclists....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
Did my first 5k run last night - probably not the best night to do it but glad I did it - 36 minutes

Title: Re: Running
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on April 06, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Anything u can do to avoid flea bites. They usually only bite me from the knee down and only if i stopped to chat someone for a few minutes.any ointments or anything.cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 06, 2015, 05:40:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
Spot on LL, get the aerobic foundation in first and then add the intervals to really get the times down. Fair play Gab Hurl, keep her lit
Quote from: redzone on April 06, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Anything u can do to avoid flea bites. They usually only bite me from the knee down and only if i stopped to chat someone for a few minutes.any ointments or anything.cheers
Chemist for repellent would advise ya or else the cheaper natural method, don't stop to chat! :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 06:46:46 PM
Cheers lads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
Did my first 5k run last night - probably not the best night to do it but glad I did it - 36 minutes

Fair play GH and to PHP and Aristo.

I desperately need some motivation to get back this year and this thread might provide it again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Old yeller on April 07, 2015, 06:26:07 PM
Has anybody got any good tips on how to prepare for the bleep test? I wouldn't be too fit at the minute but have been out jog for 30 mins twice a week for about a month now. Looking to get 9.0/10 on test, its about a montb away
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on April 07, 2015, 06:26:07 PM
Has anybody got any good tips on how to prepare for the bleep test? I wouldn't be too fit at the minute but have been out jog for 30 mins twice a week for about a month now. Looking to get 9.0/10 on test, its about a montb away

Just get two cones at the distance required and train for that... Plenty apps on phones that will set the time/beep for it..

We do them for refereeing and lads that carry weight get through it by just training specifically fir it that way. All I can say is use the time in between the run to get breathing right...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: Old yeller on April 07, 2015, 06:26:07 PM
Has anybody got any good tips on how to prepare for the bleep test? I wouldn't be too fit at the minute but have been out jog for 30 mins twice a week for about a month now. Looking to get 9.0/10 on test, its about a montb away

If its the same bleep test I'm thinking off, I'd recommend going a bit harder than a jog, up the pace every once in a while to 1/2, 3/4's and so on.

Jogging will only stand to you in the early part of it, you'll need to get the lungs pumping to last out any great length of time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: sabhallphadraig on April 08, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
Hi,

Some great inspiration on here - from and for all those ex-footballers like me now pounding the roads.

Any advice on preparing for and handling travel/jet-lag prior to an event?  I'm (probably stupidly but too good a chance to not give it a rattle) entered for the Melbourne marathon in October (over for a family wedding at the end of the month) and training is going smoothly from a long way out at the minute. When I fully lock on to the marathon uplift from June onwards, and avoiding injury in the interim, I know I will have a different challenge as the race approaches i.e. 24+hrs travel to Aus, arriving on the day before the marathon, temperature uplift following an October taper in Ireland and my head possibly not knowing what time of day it is when I toe the start line.  Anyone successfully done an equiv to this and if so how did you handle the prep for temp diffs, the travel itself (staying loose but rested (knock out medication etc) in order to actually enjoy the marathon itself and maximising a great way to see some of the city early on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 09, 2015, 11:36:02 PM
Anyone doing TQ10k on Sunday? Think it's giving rain.
I picked up my pack this eve but went out for a run and have managed to hurt my calf. It twinged with about 500metres to go but I ran on and it felt ok, but now feels so tight. I know you lads won't know a tap about this, but I was wearing quite high heels a bit over Easter and again today, I wonder if that's affected me.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2015, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 09, 2015, 11:36:02 PM
Anyone doing TQ10k on Sunday? Think it's giving rain.
I picked up my pack this eve but went out for a run and have managed to hurt my calf. It twinged with about 500metres to go but I ran on and it felt ok, but now feels so tight. I know you lads won't know a tap about this, but I was wearing quite high heels a bit over Easter and again today, I wonder if that's affected me.

Have you been running hills?? Done a lot on holiday and the route is very hilly. Calf's are very tight.. Get the foam roller out and work on it... Did it last year, the run back down towards finish is tough.  Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
I don't do any serious running but every week from the turn of the year I've been doing the Armagh Park Run (5km) started off and did an unofficial run which took me 30mins. I started doing two bootcamp(circuit) sessions during the week about 8 weeks ago and have my parkRun time down till 25:11. Aiming to break 25mins so I'll maybe try do a few longer runs at a slower pace. Some good advice here for novices.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 10, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2015, 12:14:10 AM


Have you been running hills?? Done a lot on holiday and the route is very hilly. Calf's are very tight.. Get the foam roller out and work on it... Did it last year, the run back down towards finish is tough.  Good luck
Thanks MR - No more hills than usual, though I was walking a lot on the beach at Easter - maybe 10k on each of Mon and Tues - sometimes in soft sand so maybe that's put a bit more strain on the calves.  Eh, they feel a good bit better today so I should be rightly by Sunday.
I did TQ10k back in 2012 - boring boring boring.  Was the run back tough because it was long and straight? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 10, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
I don't do any serious running but every week from the turn of the year I've been doing the Armagh Park Run (5km) started off and did an unofficial run which took me 30mins. I started doing two bootcamp(circuit) sessions during the week about 8 weeks ago and have my parkRun time down till 25:11. Aiming to break 25mins so I'll maybe try do a few longer runs at a slower pace. Some good advice here for novices.
Good man BenDover. Similar to myself in regards to where I started (29:40 first 5k) to where I am now with a 24:00 5k pb.
I've only just started to really concentrate on getting my 5k time down. The other improvemts only came as a result of getting fitter in general and doing some longer runs for marathon training.
I'm doing a lot of intervals and hill training at the moment and hoping by the end of the summer or thereabouts to be down around sub 23.
Might be a tad over optimistic but it's something to aim for anyways.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 10, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
I don't do any serious running but every week from the turn of the year I've been doing the Armagh Park Run (5km) started off and did an unofficial run which took me 30mins. I started doing two bootcamp(circuit) sessions during the week about 8 weeks ago and have my parkRun time down till 25:11. Aiming to break 25mins so I'll maybe try do a few longer runs at a slower pace. Some good advice here for novices.
Good man BenDover. Similar to myself in regards to where I started (29:40 first 5k) to where I am now with a 24:00 5k pb.
I've only just started to really concentrate on getting my 5k time down. The other improvemts only came as a result of getting fitter in general and doing some longer runs for marathon training.
I'm doing a lot of intervals and hill training at the moment and hoping by the end of the summer or thereabouts to be down around sub 23.
Might be a tad over optimistic but it's something to aim for anyways.
Hill runs - there's 2 brutal hills on the Armagh Parkrun course, for some hill run training what would ye do up one of them 5-10 times and walk, canter back down to restart?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 10, 2015, 07:10:19 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2015, 12:14:10 AM


Have you been running hills?? Done a lot on holiday and the route is very hilly. Calf's are very tight.. Get the foam roller out and work on it... Did it last year, the run back down towards finish is tough.  Good luck
Thanks MR - No more hills than usual, though I was walking a lot on the beach at Easter - maybe 10k on each of Mon and Tues - sometimes in soft sand so maybe that's put a bit more strain on the calves.  Eh, they feel a good bit better today so I should be rightly by Sunday.
I did TQ10k back in 2012 - boring boring boring.  Was the run back tough because it was long and straight?
Did it last year Rois. Have had a few niggles so no running for a week or two. It was my first ever 10k race. There are a couple of sections that were very windy last year I think. I really enjoyed it - very flat but a bit boring as you said. I didn't mind the run back so much as there were lots of people still going the other way and I was looking out for familiar faces! Good luck - hope the weather holds for you! Foam roller definitely does the trick on the calves as MR said.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 10, 2015, 10:46:01 PM
When people mention hill runs what exactly do you mean? Are you doing 10 short sharp runs up a hill or 2 or 3 long hills? There's a half mile long fairly steep hill beside me here  - is that too far?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2015, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 10, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2015, 12:14:10 AM


Have you been running hills?? Done a lot on holiday and the route is very hilly. Calf's are very tight.. Get the foam roller out and work on it... Did it last year, the run back down towards finish is tough.  Good luck
Thanks MR - No more hills than usual, though I was walking a lot on the beach at Easter - maybe 10k on each of Mon and Tues - sometimes in soft sand so maybe that's put a bit more strain on the calves.  Eh, they feel a good bit better today so I should be rightly by Sunday.
I did TQ10k back in 2012 - boring boring boring.  Was the run back tough because it was long and straight?

As CD said. Its the wind hitting you on way back, I started out possibly too quick but just felt the wind slowed me down in the end.. You'll get a sprint finish though as crowds and host cheer you in... 42is your target😉
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 11, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 10, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
I don't do any serious running but every week from the turn of the year I've been doing the Armagh Park Run (5km) started off and did an unofficial run which took me 30mins. I started doing two bootcamp(circuit) sessions during the week about 8 weeks ago and have my parkRun time down till 25:11. Aiming to break 25mins so I'll maybe try do a few longer runs at a slower pace. Some good advice here for novices.
Good man BenDover. Similar to myself in regards to where I started (29:40 first 5k) to where I am now with a 24:00 5k pb.
I've only just started to really concentrate on getting my 5k time down. The other improvemts only came as a result of getting fitter in general and doing some longer runs for marathon training.
I'm doing a lot of intervals and hill training at the moment and hoping by the end of the summer or thereabouts to be down around sub 23.
Might be a tad over optimistic but it's something to aim for anyways.
Hill runs - there's 2 brutal hills on the Armagh Parkrun course, for some hill run training what would ye do up one of them 5-10 times and walk, canter back down to restart?
There's a pretty steep hill about two miles from my house that I jog out to then run up the hill as fast as I can and walk down it and repeat as many times as I can then jog the two miles home again.
Not an exact science I know and I'm sure there are more specific hill training plans you can do and there are plenty on Google or the lads I mentioned will advise.
You're right though this thread is great for beginners.

In between the posts where MilltownRow is trying to flirt with Rois there is some pretty good advice to be got from everyone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
Hill repeats are not about just tearing up them... Start with 4 or 6 and build up doing 4,4,6,6,8,8 etc for as long as you want.i'd say 50 seconds to a minute would be enough.

Two key things...

- consistency is key - the last rep should take the same time as the first(as should the middle ones!)

- you need to keep your form in these reps- keep upright and use your arms.

Hills will build strength. What we usually do is 4-6 weeks of hills and then move into the speed stuff. The hills are great grounding for the speed.( this is basically "periodisation")
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on April 11, 2015, 02:01:07 PM
have a sore it band.just down at the outside of my knee. foamroller helps it. any good strengthening  exersises  I could do. I have some bands. I did rest it for a month but its back
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PM
Google or youtube "the clam"...

Band is just how it manifests itself. It is more likely to be further up in the glutes your problem is...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2015, 07:03:00 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 11, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 10, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: BenDover on April 10, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 06, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on April 06, 2015, 05:01:34 PM


Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
GH finally someone around my level. I've been back doing a bit last 3 weeks since moving to a new area with a 5k Walking track out the back of my house. 5/6 runs in and enjoying it. I am at 30 mins for the 5K.

That's roughly were I'm at. Started 5kms runs in January. When I say that I mean for the first few times I couldn't actually run a full 5 without breaking for a walk/rest. The first time out was a massive 42 mins  but quickly enough that went to 32 mins and then 30. Best thus far is 29.10 after I'd say 15 runs   -  mixture treadmill and roads.

Seriously doubt I could get to 25 mins as progress rate has dropped big time but have that target in mind.
Course you will. Just keep at it.
Do a few longer than 5k runs but at a slower pace to build your endurance.
The better runners like imtommygunn,ballinaman and bingo will be able advise better but I found when I started running first that doing the longer slower runs makes the 5k easier.
Some interval training also very good I find.

Well done also Gab Hurl.
I don't do any serious running but every week from the turn of the year I've been doing the Armagh Park Run (5km) started off and did an unofficial run which took me 30mins. I started doing two bootcamp(circuit) sessions during the week about 8 weeks ago and have my parkRun time down till 25:11. Aiming to break 25mins so I'll maybe try do a few longer runs at a slower pace. Some good advice here for novices.
Good man BenDover. Similar to myself in regards to where I started (29:40 first 5k) to where I am now with a 24:00 5k pb.
I've only just started to really concentrate on getting my 5k time down. The other improvemts only came as a result of getting fitter in general and doing some longer runs for marathon training.
I'm doing a lot of intervals and hill training at the moment and hoping by the end of the summer or thereabouts to be down around sub 23.
Might be a tad over optimistic but it's something to aim for anyways.
Hill runs - there's 2 brutal hills on the Armagh Parkrun course, for some hill run training what would ye do up one of them 5-10 times and walk, canter back down to restart?
There's a pretty steep hill about two miles from my house that I jog out to then run up the hill as fast as I can and walk down it and repeat as many times as I can then jog the two miles home again.
Not an exact science I know and I'm sure there are more specific hill training plans you can do and there are plenty on Google or the lads I mentioned will advise.
You're right though this thread is great for beginners.

In between the posts where MilltownRow is trying to flirt with Rois there is some pretty good advice to be got from everyone.

Give us your advice on the warm weather running in Ireland??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 12, 2015, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PM
Google or youtube "the clam"...

Band is just how it manifests itself. It is more likely to be further up in the glutes your problem is...

Side plank gives ya better bang for your buck in terms of glute medius activation would ya believe but clam is a handy one to start out with.

Exactly right re ITB....foam rolling your ITB is a waste of time and needless pain...foam rolling your tensor fascia lata up higher is useful though although getting in with a sliotar or tennis ball to it is probably easier..
ITB is a fascia...not a muscle..goes in more then one direction and applying pressure on it only compresses it. ITB friction syndrome where the ITB band flicks over a fat pad on side of knee causing pain is best corrected by changing running form a little, not running down a tightrope basically ...so by strengthening glutes and stopping your tensor fascia lata becoming over active.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 12, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
Anyone do the Great Ireland Run yesterday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 13, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work.

nice one, well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2015, 11:52:16 AM
Well done Rois, great stuff and sub 50 well in your radar if you go for it.

One of our Sunday morning crew actually run that race, Conor Duffy who runs with Glaslough Harriers. He's a serious mover. Good few of the Rockets over in Paris as well, 2 of them sub 2.55 and the rest happy to get in between the 3.30 and 4hr mark.

I have joined that Strava group BM but haven't hooked up the Garmin yet but will do. If the Liverpool game is boring tonight, I'll do that.

Had a good productive week, returned from a wedding in England last weekend to run a local charity 5km on Monday. Had intended to jog it with Bingo Jnr but he joined up with a few buddies and their parents, so I went off on my own. Ended up pushing harder than entended and finished in 5th place, just under 20min. Drink and truly gone.

Tuesday - day off
Wednesday - 5m recovery run at just under 8min per mile pace.
Thursday - Interval session. 8x400m with warm up and cool down at under 5km pace.
Friday - 4M recovery run.
Saturday - 10m Tempo than averaged 7.27min per mile.

Yesterday was the best run. A pal had rang to see if I'd be interested in doing the "Greenway challenge" in Monaghan Town. It wasn't a race as such but a challenge for charity. Didn't know what it was but said I'd go. So off we went yesterday morning at about 7.30am, in the rain. By the time we were due to start at 8.15am, the rain had stopped....and was replaced by snow!

What the challenge entitled was great. They have 4 Gyms in Monaghan - hotels and independent. They have also regenerated the old Ulster canal pathways and have a decent Greenway that goes through and round the town. You set off from your starting point along Greenway to next Gym, when you arrived you then did 10mins on an exercise bike. (You could cycle between them either and do 20mins on threadmill). Finish bike and run to then gym, another 10mins on bike, off to next gym, same again and then back to your starting Gym where you did 10mins on rowing machine (or ten mins doing lengths of pool).

Was very enjoyable and we pushed rightly. Took us just over 1hr 30 with 10.7km run and the bikes/rowing machines thrown in.

Was great value for only €10 with decent T-shirt for all finishers, drinks/snacks at all Gyms, good bag at finish with sports drink, more water, bars and fruit and a lovely warm cup of tea at the finish. First year they had done it and we told them it was under priced. Defo do it again and it was going on all day.

Legs feel surprisingly good today and drove to Dublin after that yesterday.

Hopefully another good week with a 5km race planned for Saturday evening and a long run on Sunday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work.

Course you will, you should target the Jimmy Ten K race in Downpatrick, tough enough as there are couple hills in it but good grandstand finish in the town. Well done btw
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
Well done Rois. The laganside in september is a good one to target. It's flat and fast. NO reason not to take a few minutes off the time too.

Lisburn is a bit too hily to be really speeding up at.

Bingo that fella won yesterday. He's in good form at the minute.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 13, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Super running Rois. Hoping to nick some time off my 10k pb but will need a couple more weeks work before trying for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 13, 2015, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work.

I will bet you will have it done this summer!

What is your best 5k time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 13, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 13, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Super running Rois. Hoping to nick some time off my 10k pb but will need a couple more weeks work before trying for it.
Are you still doing parkrun?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 13, 2015, 03:51:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 13, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
Well done Rois. The laganside in september is a good one to target. It's flat and fast. NO reason not to take a few minutes off the time too.

Lisburn is a bit too hily to be really speeding up at.

Bingo that fella won yesterday. He's in good form at the minute.

Yeah, Conor keeps getting better and better. He's young so not afraid to race the big fellas. Some runners will pick and choose the race to see if they have a chance of winning. Connor would rather race against the best and better himself. Ran the Armagh 5k against International level runners and finished 35th or something but really went for it and PB'd. He ran Greencastle on St Stephens day and got 3rd, ran the Queens 5k recently as well, possibly 3rd at it as well, maybe 4th.

With the track opening over in Clones, he heads there twice a week and really puts in killer sessions. He works as a postman, so can work, have a rest and then train hard. Serious hard worker at it and getting better and better.

Played a bit of ball till a few years back and won a county medal without playing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 13, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 13, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 13, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Super running Rois. Hoping to nick some time off my 10k pb but will need a couple more weeks work before trying for it.
Are you still doing parkrun?

No. Time is difficult for me so I try to do a long run on a Saturday or Sunday (it will be one or the other) because I won't get to do one during the week. With the evenings getting longer that might change. A bit of a pissoff as there's a parkrun in Sligo now and I haven't done it yet. My main target for the year is the Warriors Run and to make a significant improvement in my time (which won't happen without some weight loss). Taking down my 5k pb is very much secondary to that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 13, 2015, 03:51:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 13, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
Well done Rois. The laganside in september is a good one to target. It's flat and fast. NO reason not to take a few minutes off the time too.

Lisburn is a bit too hily to be really speeding up at.

Bingo that fella won yesterday. He's in good form at the minute.

Yeah, Conor keeps getting better and better. He's young so not afraid to race the big fellas. Some runners will pick and choose the race to see if they have a chance of winning. Connor would rather race against the best and better himself. Ran the Armagh 5k against International level runners and finished 35th or something but really went for it and PB'd. He ran Greencastle on St Stephens day and got 3rd, ran the Queens 5k recently as well, possibly 3rd at it as well, maybe 4th.

With the track opening over in Clones, he heads there twice a week and really puts in killer sessions. He works as a postman, so can work, have a rest and then train hard. Serious hard worker at it and getting better and better.

Played a bit of ball till a few years back and won a county medal without playing.

Good to see someone new breaking in with the "big boys" at least. The likes of winning that yesterday would be a decent enough pay cheque so would make it worthwhile.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 14, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-32283985
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 14, 2015, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 14, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-32283985
300 13km PBs there anyway....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work.

Course you will, you should target the Jimmy Ten K race in Downpatrick, tough enough as there are couple hills in it but good grandstand finish in the town. Well done btw

Is that the Jimmy Murray ten K someone told me about the other week?

Wee Jimmy was a ex teacher of mine, loved his running and cross country.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: Rois on April 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Nice 10k PB yesterday in TQ10k - broke 53 mins for first time.  ;D
Struggled in the last km, felt totally done-in, couldn't manage a sprint finish.

I'm starting to wonder how achievable breaking 50 mins is.  Only my second km yesterday came near it at 5.02.  I imagine it would be an awful lot of work.

Course you will, you should target the Jimmy Ten K race in Downpatrick, tough enough as there are couple hills in it but good grandstand finish in the town. Well done btw

Is that the Jimmy Murray ten K someone told me about the other week?

Wee Jimmy was a ex teacher of mine, loved his running and cross country.

Not sure Johnney but its very popular
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 15, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Celebrating too early.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4

Still not as good as our own mudlark getting one over on the brit... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 15, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Celebrating too early.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4

Still not as good as our own mudlark getting one over on the brit... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE

thats class.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ardtole on April 15, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Celebrating too early.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4

Still not as good as our own mudlark getting one over on the brit... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE


I never seen that footage of Ovett and Treacey before, made my day that, im still smiling. The smugness of the commentary makes it all the better.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on April 15, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: ardtole on April 15, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Celebrating too early.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4

Still not as good as our own mudlark getting one over on the brit... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE


I never seen that footage of Ovett and Treacey before, made my day that, im still smiling. The smugness of the commentary makes it all the better.

Great stuff altogether  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 15, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on April 15, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: ardtole on April 15, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 15, 2015, 10:10:05 AM
Celebrating too early.... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWa9iYYPYF4

Still not as good as our own mudlark getting one over on the brit... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE


I never seen that footage of Ovett and Treacey before, made my day that, im still smiling. The smugness of the commentary makes it all the better.

Great stuff altogether  ;D

Saw it yesterday and like others wasn't aware it had happened. Even a yard or two from the line you think Treacy isn't going to get up. Never liked Ovett. Always preferred Seb Coe for some reason (probably didn't realise he was a raging Tory) and Steve Cram.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 18, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2015/04/17/fake-go-st-louis-marathon-winner-kendall-schler-disqualified-from-boston-is-rosie-ruizs-heir-in-fraud-video/



::) What was she at! The Ruiz video is hilarious, "what are intervals?" ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10)

Nice video of the Castlebar Park Run.

At the time of the run on a Saturday morning it is usually much quieter than in the video.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2015, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10)

Nice video of the Castlebar Park Run.

At the time of the run on a Saturday morning it is usually much quieter than in the video.
Some sharp turns on that course!

Dunno about the safety of going through a small housing estate, a car park and a main road bridge either!
Looks like a narrow enough path also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 22, 2015, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0&spfreload=10)

Nice video of the Castlebar Park Run.

At the time of the run on a Saturday morning it is usually much quieter than in the video.
Some sharp turns on that course!

Dunno about the safety of going through a small housing estate, a car park and a main road bridge either!
Looks like a narrow enough path also.

It isn't a housing estate, it is a handful of holiday homes and a coffee shop.  The car park is usually empty at 09:30 on a Saturday morning and you only use the footpath on the bridge for 10 yards. There are a couple of sharps turns alright, I'll give you that. Also the hill is steeper than it looks in the video, but you only do it once and there is a long downhill section afterwards.

The two Park Runs I have done in Dublin have narrower paths with double or sometimes treble the number of runners.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
 ;D Fair enough Muppet!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/44/39/fb/4439fb48a35d4fdb801690385de4d2c1.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 22, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
;D Fair enough Muppet!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/44/39/fb/4439fb48a35d4fdb801690385de4d2c1.jpg)

I agreed with you on the sharp turns and merely re-calibrated the errors of your ways on the rest.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 22, 2015, 01:32:59 PM
Looks like a interesting course, tight turns would keep you on your toes. Can see why sub 17 has only been done on it once. Coffee shop at the finish is a bonus!
Have been doing a few different ones in London, few mad courses with 160 runners most weeks. Doing a 5 lap course on Saturday  in Highbury, most laps of any parkrun in the world, good craic.You you start lapping people it gets interesting, if you see a gap you've got to take it!. Haven't made it to Bushy park where the 1st one ever was held, over a 1000 runners every saturday...bit of a dose to get to by 9am on a Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 23, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
Looks very likely that we are getting our own Parkrun in Castleblayney. 90% of the way to getting all in place and provisional date agreed for June start. Decent course of two laps of the local forest park with a couple of hills thrown in to keep everyone honest! Be great to have on own doorstep.

No runs since last Friday. Had been targeting two races last Saturday and last night, two fast runs a 5k and 10k. Done a very light 5km Friday evening to shake out the legs and woke up Saturday not feeling the best, as day went on the 5km was out the window and I felt like crap.

Haven't had energy to do much Sunday or Monday, so waved goodbye to last night as well. Will get back out tomorrow evening. Rest might do no harm, had a few niggles that were hard to shake off but my god, my head isn't right from missing a few days and in particular a few races that I had looked forward to.

So if anyone knows any decent 10km's in the north east, let me know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Well despite you being a Celtic supporting Nordie cnut......
Enjoy the day first and foremost. I take it its your first Marathon? Great feeling crossing the finish line, something I'll never forget.
I dunno if you have a time goal in mind but take it handy at the start and don't burn yourself out.
My time goal went out the window half way through and by then I just wanted to finish whatever the time.
Depending on weather maybe wear some old tracksuit bottoms and a top that you can throw away so you're not freezing at the start line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Well despite you being a Celtic supporting Nordie cnut......
Enjoy the day first and foremost. I take it its your first Marathon? Great feeling crossing the finish line, something I'll never forget.
I dunno if you have a time goal in mind but take it handy at the start and don't burn yourself out.
My time goal went out the window half way through and by then I just wanted to finish whatever the time.
Depending on weather maybe wear some old tracksuit bottoms and a top that you can throw away so you're not freezing at the start line.

first one indeed,last 5 months of my life dominated by it, cant wait now to do it but nervous as hell too, time goal is 4.30 but tbh would just be delighted to complete it. great idea about tracksuit bottoms etc, 9am start so will be cool enough waiting to start i would think.
only messing about the laois craic btw, my best weekend of the year is in stradbally with mad hoors from port arrlington.  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Well despite you being a Celtic supporting Nordie cnut......
Enjoy the day first and foremost. I take it its your first Marathon? Great feeling crossing the finish line, something I'll never forget.
I dunno if you have a time goal in mind but take it handy at the start and don't burn yourself out.
My time goal went out the window half way through and by then I just wanted to finish whatever the time.
Depending on weather maybe wear some old tracksuit bottoms and a top that you can throw away so you're not freezing at the start line.

first one indeed,last 5 months of my life dominated by it, cant wait now to do it but nervous as hell too, time goal is 4.30 but tbh would just be delighted to complete it. great idea about tracksuit bottoms etc, 9am start so will be cool enough waiting to start i would think.
only messing about the laois craic btw, my best weekend of the year is in stradbally with mad hoors from port arrlington.  :)

Ran 18 miles of it   was only doing one leg but kept going with the rest...on the antrim road which would be the hilly part don't try and keep the pace up... You'll get a nice drop down to the shore road so let people run on conserve your energy. And remember that people sprinting past you are usually relay teams... Stick to your pace through out... The toe path at Gideon's can be boring as it takes you through to Duncrue..just keep head down and push on... Once you get past there its busy enough more people out cheering... Then its along the embankment all flat till Ormeau road... Nearly the home straight... Good luck. Always head down to Gideons at the tunnel part to cheer runners on...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
CT I take it you know about the pacers? There will be 4h 30 pacers - guys with balloons. My advice would be to stick with them from the start and they'll keep your pacing right and talk to you all the way through. Gideon's green will be a mental challenge but if you've done the work you'll b grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on April 24, 2015, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Well despite you being a Celtic supporting Nordie cnut......
Enjoy the day first and foremost. I take it its your first Marathon? Great feeling crossing the finish line, something I'll never forget.
I dunno if you have a time goal in mind but take it handy at the start and don't burn yourself out.
My time goal went out the window half way through and by then I just wanted to finish whatever the time.
Depending on weather maybe wear some old tracksuit bottoms and a top that you can throw away so you're not freezing at the start line.

first one indeed,last 5 months of my life dominated by it, cant wait now to do it but nervous as hell too, time goal is 4.30 but tbh would just be delighted to complete it. great idea about tracksuit bottoms etc, 9am start so will be cool enough waiting to start i would think.
only messing about the laois craic btw, my best weekend of the year is in stradbally with mad hoors from port arrlington.  :)

Ran 18 miles of it   was only doing one leg but kept going with the rest...on the antrim road which would be the hilly part don't try and keep the pace up... You'll get a nice drop down to the shore road so let people run on conserve your energy. And remember that people sprinting past you are usually relay teams... Stick to your pace through out... The toe path at Gideon's can be boring as it takes you through to Duncrue..just keep head down and push on... Once you get past there its busy enough more people out cheering... Then its along the embankment all flat till Ormeau road... Nearly the home straight... Good luck. Always head down to Gideons at the tunnel part to cheer runners on...

When you land into the city centre you'll be surprised how close you are to the start line. I started back with the 4 hour pacers and we crossed the start line in seconds. It's very busy out of town to about Connswater and then it breaks up a bit. Would agree with ITG - stick with the pacers. There's good crowds about as far as the bottom of the Holywood road but then there's nobody on the Sydenham bypass - it's a boring trek back into the city and can be windy.

The first changeover is a nightmare - very badly organised with people waiting on their changeover getting in the way trying to find their runner. You could be slowed to a walk through it. In through town is busier with plenty of cheering and support.

When you're coming out of town and going up the falls there's a lot of uphill until you get to the top of the Whitewell road (up near the zoo on the Antrim road). It's all steady uphill rather than anything very steep. Down to the shore road is very steep downhill and a big shock to the legs after all the uphill running. There's a changeover in the middle of all that - it's slightly better than the first one.

After that Gideon's green is the best organised changeover - relay runners are separated off so nobody in your way. MR2's right about the tow path - boring run on a narrow path along the M5 back into Duncrue. Duncrue isn't much better - just keep the head down until you get into Corporation Street (last changeover - well organised) - it gets better then with the crowds. You head over towards central station and onto the tow patch heading up to the Ormeau Road.

Mile 24 starts at the bottom of the Ormeau Road. There's no getting round it - it's a f**king nightmare (it was for me anyway)! It's one of the busiest parts of the route through so that'll keep you going. When you get up to the Pavilion/Parador/Errigal it'll be very busy - last year they had a fella outside the Parador on a mic/speaker roaring everyone on. Turn the corner at the top of the Ormeau Road and the last mile and a bit is all downhill. When you turn the corner from the Ravenhill Road into the embankment it'll be packed with people - that's the last few hundred yards and the finish line it just inside Ormeau Park.

The best parts of the route I'd say were Falls Road, Westland Road, Antrim Road and Ravenhill Road - plenty of people out supporting and loads of ones out with fruit, jelly sweets, water, etc...

The hardest parts I found were the tow path (along the M5 and along the Lagan behind Central Station) and the Ormeau Road. If you pace yourself the Antrim Road isn't too bad.

If I could offer advice now - pray it's not windy. A bit of rain is ok (not too much though) but if you're against the wind from Gideon's Green back into Belfast then it's tough - it's a very open part of the route

All the best
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
Thanks very much all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 24, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
Thanks very much all.
I'll reiterate what the lads have said Charlie - that stretch from Gideon's back into the city is a tough, tough run and most of the runners will struggle. Just get the head down until corporation street, grit your teeth and tell yourself that once that bit is over, it's plain sailing. I enjoyed the last section up and around the Ormeau - I'll be outside Cherryvale at my usual spot cheering you all on - all the best of luck! Take it easy this week and eat plenty. Get as much rest as you can
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 07:28:34 PM
Cheers lad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 24, 2015, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 07:28:34 PM
Cheers lad.

Good luck with it Charlie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 24, 2015, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 24, 2015, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 07:28:34 PM
Cheers lad.

Good luck with it Charlie.
+1 Charlie. We'll get #JeSuisCharlie trending here Monday week!
Just do what you've done for your long runs....people often feck up by changing things radically in the last week in terms of nutrition, clothes ect..
You will hurt but everybody hurts, you're going to be asked a few questions around 20 miles approx and it's up to you as to how you answer them...
I've tried Paula Radcliffe's trick of counting to 300 when I'm crashing....by the time you're done you've the guts of a mile/half mile done...

Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 24, 2015, 11:59:18 PM
Good luck Charlie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on April 25, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 23, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
Looks very likely that we are getting our own Parkrun in Castleblayney. 90% of the way to getting all in place and provisional date agreed for June start. Decent course of two laps of the local forest park with a couple of hills thrown in to keep everyone honest! Be great to have on own doorstep.

No runs since last Friday. Had been targeting two races last Saturday and last night, two fast runs a 5k and 10k. Done a very light 5km Friday evening to shake out the legs and woke up Saturday not feeling the best, as day went on the 5km was out the window and I felt like crap.

Haven't had energy to do much Sunday or Monday, so waved goodbye to last night as well. Will get back out tomorrow evening. Rest might do no harm, had a few niggles that were hard to shake off but my god, my head isn't right from missing a few days and in particular a few races that I had looked forward to.

So if anyone knows any decent 10km's in the north east, let me know.

Is Banbridge to far away for you? 10k in three weeks time.  21 may. A wed evening. Tough course plenty of hills.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2015, 02:05:20 PM
Took my youngest to the Waterworks parkrun.. Still so busy and course changed a but managed to get daughter round in under 30 minutes.... She wasn't happy lol, but she just beat her mum so bragging rights in house
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 25, 2015, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2015, 02:05:20 PM
Took my youngest to the Waterworks parkrun.. Still so busy and course changed a but managed to get daughter round in under 30 minutes.... She wasn't happy lol, but she just beat her mum so bragging rights in house
Fair play MR. It's great to see families and younger runners out! I'm looking forward to my eldest being old enough to drag along! Numbers at the Waterworks are looking really healthy. I'm still running the DUB when I can. There's been a steady increase in numbers there as well and there are groups of 100+ fairly often - even at the moment when a lot of regulars are away at races of one distance or another. Great to see the park runs going from strength to strenght.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2015, 06:52:45 PM
London Marathon was another success, might be the only one I'd do if I were to do one.... fair play to all involved, couple of friends done it today and they loved it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on April 27, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Newry has a marathon, half marathon and a 10k on same day
I normally do the half marathon normally a good session afterwards
It's on Sunday 24 May
Bank holiday in 6 counties the next day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

What tri's have you entered?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

What tri's have you entered?

Dungarvan, Dunmore East, Athlone & Dublin City along with some small duathalons
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on April 28, 2015, 09:30:57 AM
how accessible will it be to get into Belfast on Monday? Thinking about taking the OH and the kids down to cheer on the runners. What time would we need to be town for and where are the best viewing points? Still kinda hoping one of the relay teams in work asks for a sub to step in - always enjoy running a leg in this marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 28, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
They do very well at keeping most of the roads open apart from the actual route.

I might be a bit biased but I think a great place to watch the runners is on the Antrim Road - lots of space for you to stand, kids getting High 5s from runners, and they really appreciate the support at that stage of the run.  I had a Tyrone jacket on last year watching from there (near Lansdowne Hotel), and even got a few shouts of "C'mon Tyrone" from the runners themselves. 

This year I'm planning to go to Dargan Road to see a colleague who is running the fourth leg, just where they come up from the shore path. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 10:53:28 AM
Fair play Heffo. First step is committing to it! Sounds like you have good base already with the tri training.

Went down to watch the London marathon last Sunday at 14 mile/ 22 mile mark....passes the same segment going to and from canary wharf.

Elites were unreal to see up close, cruising. Ridiculous speed. Massive group of lads hanging onto Paula Radcliffe too trying to get as much support from the crowd by tagging onto her! Got awful pangs of envy standing there watching, some buzz.

Some hero this chap was, fastest marathon dressed as a leprechaun 2.59.30!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDhLoFOWIAEUy55.jpg)

Met a lad walking down the stairs to the tube yesterday like John Wayne....just said "Marathon?" to him and he said ya and started laughing. ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 10:54:45 AM
If you've kids then ormeau park would be a great place to watch it. There are loads of people at finish line and loads handing out various freebies which I'm sure kids would love. In terms of accessibility there are side streets you could park down though they will be pretty busy as loads of relay runners will park there. I would nearly suggest parking in somewhere like stranmillis and dandering over. Even maybe rosetta.

You can watch an earlier bit on the ormeau road then go into the park by the ozone later when the masses finish. It's usually what I do if not participating though not sure I can be bothered with it this year.

Alternatives are antrim road and city centre though both will be earlier and not last as long. The ormeau road area will have people coming through from about 11 onwards up to early to mid afternoon. There is always a good atmosphere by the ozone at the end.

A boy in the club has the world record for being dressed as a zombie at 3:15 or so BM lol. Has the certificate and all. London was great viewing - would nearly make me want to do one! That fella Martelleti(spelling?) did London in a spiderman suit in 2:17! Madness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 11:12:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 10:54:45 AM
If you've kids then ormeau park would be a great place to watch it. There are loads of people at finish line and loads handing out various freebies which I'm sure kids would love. In terms of accessibility there are side streets you could park down though they will be pretty busy as loads of relay runners will park there. I would nearly suggest parking in somewhere like stranmillis and dandering over. Even maybe rosetta.

You can watch an earlier bit on the ormeau road then go into the park by the ozone later when the masses finish. It's usually what I do if not participating though not sure I can be bothered with it this year.

Alternatives are antrim road and city centre though both will be earlier and not last as long. The ormeau road area will have people coming through from about 11 onwards up to early to mid afternoon. There is always a good atmosphere by the ozone at the end.

A boy in the club has the world record for being dressed as a zombie at 3:15 or so BM lol. Has the certificate and all. London was great viewing - would nearly make me want to do one! That fella Martelleti(spelling?) did London in a spiderman suit in 2:17! Madness.
Ya, Paul Martelleti did it in 2.30. He won Manchester marathon the weekend before in 2.17, beating Eoin O'Callaghan of Star of the Sea athletic club into 2nd!
Martelleti is a kiwi ultra marathon runner who's moved over to London a few years ago. He's rocked up to a few parkruns I've done and knocked out sub 15 without breaking sweat. He won the one on Saturday in 16.44 as practice for the marathon the next day in the spiderman suit! 1st time he ran in it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:16:52 AM
That's obscene running!

I enjoyed watching it Sunday morning. First year in a few that none of the locals had entered having done Paris instead.

The elites are serious movers. Was some talk of a world record attempt but was clear early on that this wasn't going to happen.

Fair play Heffo, look forward to your progress here and will give you something better to do than watching those boring Dubs coast to another All Ireland  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:22:37 AM
Ah 2:17 was his time the previous week. 2:30 in that suit is some going.

I think it became quite tactical with so many good guys on sunday hence no world record or close. The womens was worse. The main ones shot themselves in the foot being so tactical and then the ethiopian woman wiped the floor with them when she kicked. If they'd pushed the pace hard earlier it'd have been a different winner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
Ya, I didn't spot many Irish club vests. Fairly stressful trying to pick out friends when all you see is a mass of bobbing heads coming at you though!
Not sure if I'd be gone on doing London though. Seems to be more weighted towards charity entry and ballot entry (which is opened next Monday BTW). The good for age categories are only open for UK based runners which is annoying. I'll throw my name in next Monday anyway but I'd have more interest in doing Berlin, Chicago, New York and Boston. Not Tokyo though, watched the highlights this year...course was dead and finishes in a car park by the looks of it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
I do the ballot every year so must get on that. Not that interested in the marathon unless a big one like London so I just do it and if I get in I get in.

Tokyo sounds about on a par with Belfast lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on April 28, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:16:52 AM
That's obscene running!

I enjoyed watching it Sunday morning. First year in a few that none of the locals had entered having done Paris instead.

The elites are serious movers. Was some talk of a world record attempt but was clear early on that this wasn't going to happen.

Fair play Heffo, look forward to your progress here and will give you something better to do than watching those boring Dubs coast to another All Ireland  ;)

How did they find it...I think I remember you talking about it at the time, I am very tempted to sign up for this and just wondering what the experiences have been like
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
Ya, I didn't spot many Irish club vests. Fairly stressful trying to pick out friends when all you see is a mass of bobbing heads coming at you though!
Not sure if I'd be gone on doing London though. Seems to be more weighted towards charity entry and ballot entry (which is opened next Monday BTW). The good for age categories are only open for UK based runners which is annoying. I'll throw my name in next Monday anyway but I'd have more interest in doing Berlin, Chicago, New York and Boston. Not Tokyo though, watched the highlights this year...course was dead and finishes in a car park by the looks of it!

Only seemed about a dozen from boards doing it as well. The charity part seems huge alright. At least you'd have a shout at qualifying, i'd not be close but an getting closer through increassing age mainly.

Would fancy it some day as they say the support and course is brilliant.

A few of the Rockets had done all the majors until they announced Tokyo and they weren't impressed!

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:22:37 AM
Ah 2:17 was his time the previous week. 2:30 in that suit is some going.

I think it became quite tactical with so many good guys on sunday hence no world record or close. The womens was worse. The main ones shot themselves in the foot being so tactical and then the ethiopian woman wiped the floor with them when she kicked. If they'd pushed the pace hard earlier it'd have been a different winner.

Womens race was strange alright although the BBC where delighted as it meant Paula's record was safe. They'd have been devastated if it was broken during her last run at it!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on April 28, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:16:52 AM
That's obscene running!

I enjoyed watching it Sunday morning. First year in a few that none of the locals had entered having done Paris instead.

The elites are serious movers. Was some talk of a world record attempt but was clear early on that this wasn't going to happen.

Fair play Heffo, look forward to your progress here and will give you something better to do than watching those boring Dubs coast to another All Ireland  ;)

How did they find it...I think I remember you talking about it at the time, I am very tempted to sign up for this and just wondering what the experiences have been like

They all enjoyed it. Was a mixed bag in that 2 of them where sub 2.55hr, a few where first time marathon runners and the others struggled to get training done for various reasons.

As an event though they all really enjoyed it. Was a good buzz round the city for it. The course was good apart from running on cobbles at times and some congestion at start but considering the numbers, it was nothing too bad or off putting.

Only compliant was the price of a pint that Sunday after it but they had expected that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
Bingo without wanting to get political how do border clubs fit in with ni athletics? I thought ulster clubs registered with ni athletics? If they did then you could maybe get in via the good for age thing? (I don't know enough about it but you guys, Letterkenny etc etc always compete up here though not sure of the registration logistics. )
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2015, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

Jaysus, the Dubs will be winning the marathon as well as the double this year then?  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
I do the ballot every year so must get on that. Not that interested in the marathon unless a big one like London so I just do it and if I get in I get in.

Tokyo sounds about on a par with Belfast lol.
haha...bit further to go than Belfast though. Be an awful dose of a trip too, took me about 3-4 days to get over jetlag to Australia/New Zealand so wouldn't be ideal flying economy to Tokyo and running a marathon!

Ya, no harm in throwing name down next Monday. Say if you miss out 5 years you are guaranteed for 6th. You have to enter every year though, if you miss out you are bottom of the pile. Or you can just go with Sports Tours International ( who i went with to Boston and they are very good) and pay for package, entry...hotel and flights. Little bit more expensive but guaranteed a number, think they can get as many as they like for London he said.


Regarding good for age.....there are ways around it...if you happen to have a friends address in UK, and you can put that down and info ect will be sent there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 28, 2015, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

Jaysus, the Dubs will be winning the marathon as well as the double this year then?  :D

;)

Forgetting O'Byrne Cup & Leinster??!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
Bingo without wanting to get political how do border clubs fit in with ni athletics? I thought ulster clubs registered with ni athletics? If they did then you could maybe get in via the good for age thing? (I don't know enough about it but you guys, Letterkenny etc etc always compete up here though not sure of the registration logistics. )

We would be registered with Athletics Ireland. Not sure if NI was ever considered but I know that the main reason is that any events the club runs would be sanctioned and insured by AI. I'd know all the Monaghan clubs would be registered the same as they had to do so through the Monaghan County athletics board and we'd compete in the Monaghan leagues.

I know some of the boys joined the Newcastle AC in the past as they where into the Hill running but that has changed now and the club would be recognised as an affliated club when registering for events like the Hill and Dale serious.

As for getting in for London through the GFA process, that hasn't been a problem in the past for the lads and we all would have access to addresses across the water or up north.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

Jaysus, the Dubs will be winning the marathon as well as the double this year then?  :D

;)

Forgetting O'Byrne Cup & Leinster??!

...and the National League!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 28, 2015, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:16:52 AM
Fair play Heffo, look forward to your progress here and will give you something better to do than watching those boring Dubs coast to another All Ireland  ;)

Cheers Bingo & Ballinaman
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 28, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
Bingo without wanting to get political how do border clubs fit in with ni athletics? I thought ulster clubs registered with ni athletics? If they did then you could maybe get in via the good for age thing? (I don't know enough about it but you guys, Letterkenny etc etc always compete up here though not sure of the registration logistics. )

We would be registered with Athletics Ireland. Not sure if NI was ever considered but I know that the main reason is that any events the club runs would be sanctioned and insured by AI. I'd know all the Monaghan clubs would be registered the same as they had to do so through the Monaghan County athletics board and we'd compete in the Monaghan leagues.

I know some of the boys joined the Newcastle AC in the past as they where into the Hill running but that has changed now and the club would be recognised as an affliated club when registering for events like the Hill and Dale serious.

As for getting in for London through the GFA process, that hasn't been a problem in the past for the lads and we all would have access to addresses across the water or up north.

Ah right I didn't realise you boys just fudged the address lol.

There's the GFA times for London: https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/good-age-entry/ (https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/good-age-entry/)

They're not too bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on April 28, 2015, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 28, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
I do the ballot every year so must get on that. Not that interested in the marathon unless a big one like London so I just do it and if I get in I get in.

Tokyo sounds about on a par with Belfast lol.
haha...bit further to go than Belfast though. Be an awful dose of a trip too, took me about 3-4 days to get over jetlag to Australia/New Zealand so wouldn't be ideal flying economy to Tokyo and running a marathon!

Ya, no harm in throwing name down next Monday. Say if you miss out 5 years you are guaranteed for 6th. You have to enter every year though, if you miss out you are bottom of the pile. Or you can just go with Sports Tours International ( who i went with to Boston and they are very good) and pay for package, entry...hotel and flights. Little bit more expensive but guaranteed a number, think they can get as many as they like for London he said.


Regarding good for age.....there are ways around it...if you happen to have a friends address in UK, and you can put that down and info ect will be sent there.

Are you sure about this Ballinaman? I know this used to be the case but I thought they had stopped this for London?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 28, 2015, 02:39:02 PM
On holidays at the moment.
Trying to get a run in most days while the kids are asleep in the afternoon.
It's great to be able run somewhere different, it's a novelty running with palm trees lining my route and the sun shining on a beautiful blue sea.
Some fantastic looking women running past me also helps!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2015, 05:35:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 28, 2015, 02:39:02 PM
On holidays at the moment.
Trying to get a run in most days while the kids are asleep in the afternoon.
It's great to be able run somewhere different, it's a novelty running with palm trees lining my route and the sun shining on a beautiful blue sea.
Some fantastic looking women running past me also helps!

Past you would be right :o.. With the heat there you must be at walking pace! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 28, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 28, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: heffo on April 27, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
Have committed to doing the Dublin marathon - need to get finger in gear now.

Good man.

What sort of distance/times are you doing at the moment?

Having had a disastrous few months, I am back on the road again. I did 37km in total last week, very slowly mind.

Doing 10kish once or twice a week - swimming and cycling too - am doing some triathalons too.

Will do the next 10 mile coming up and then a half marathon after that

What tri's have you entered?

Dungarvan, Dunmore East, Athlone & Dublin City along with some small duathalons

Was looking at the Kilkenny one, seems to be popular.... Not training for tri's this year, just too busy but will get it going for next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 28, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 23, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
Class  ;D

http://m.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/who-was-the-dad-leading-the-boston-marathon-at-mile-one

doing Belfast marathon very soon, any tips after your Dublin experience?  despite you being a laois royalist liverpool supporter you did inspire me to enter.
Well despite you being a Celtic supporting Nordie cnut......
Enjoy the day first and foremost. I take it its your first Marathon? Great feeling crossing the finish line, something I'll never forget.
I dunno if you have a time goal in mind but take it handy at the start and don't burn yourself out.
My time goal went out the window half way through and by then I just wanted to finish whatever the time.
Depending on weather maybe wear some old tracksuit bottoms and a top that you can throw away so you're not freezing at the start line.

first one indeed,last 5 months of my life dominated by it, cant wait now to do it but nervous as hell too, time goal is 4.30 but tbh would just be delighted to complete it. great idea about tracksuit bottoms etc, 9am start so will be cool enough waiting to start i would think.
only messing about the laois craic btw, my best weekend of the year is in stradbally with mad hoors from port arrlington.  :)
I wasn't messing about the Nordie Cnut thing.... ;)

Enjoy it anyway.When is it?
Have you anyone waiting at the finish line for you? Or even part of the way through the course? It gives you a real boost seeing someone you know.
Best feeling ever seeing my young lad just as I was finishing as I was doing it all for him really.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
What'd you do BM??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 03, 2015, 02:41:59 PM
Sound sound lads.
10km in 34.41 tommy, 8am start to the race which was fairly unusual but was a decent course and nice morning.
Could be better though, went through 5k in 17.15 so 2nd half of race was 17.26, prefer to negative split it ideally.
Legs were sound but need to improve cadence speed and 5K time to have any thoughts about 34....which typically, was the first thought..haha. Never happy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Good man. Ha runners are never happy - sure if you were you wouldn't have the desire to get better!

It's not far from a negative split. 10k is a funny distance to pace - you need a few under your belt to get it right.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 03, 2015, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on April 24, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
Thanks very much all.
Best of luck tomorrow.

My own advice would be to enjoy it and go with a pacer. If you are finding it tough going then I would suggest easing off and making sure you finish.
I know plenty of fellas not finish their first Marathon and never do another.

In my own first Marathon I had a time goal in mind but everything went wrong on the day.
The day was unusually warm for the area and time of year and I probably thought I was better than I was and totally underestimated the enormity of running a Marathon.I limped home in well over 5 hours but I was delighted just to finish.

I actually got a few sneers from people about my time (from people who had never ran a Marathon themselves!!) but I didn't care as I knew I would go back and do more Marathons.
And I did do more.I have now done 7 marathons and my PB is now 3:34
I honestly believe if I hadn't finished my first I would never have done another.

For anyone doing Dublin this year and I see a few here have already signed up.
I ran Dublin for the first time last year hoping for sub 3:30 but on the day the unseasonably hot weather really affected me as well as most of the field actually.I've never seen so many people on stretchers on the side of the road during a Marathon! I came home in 3:48
Dublin though is a fantastic marathon and I really enjoyed the atmosphere and the goodwill from the onlookers.

Anyway I'm rambling, could actually talk about running all day though!
Enjoy tomorrow Charlie as you'll never again get to do your first Marathon and it truly is a wonderful race to compete in and to complete imo.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 03, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
Best of luck to anyone running tomorrow! Looks like it's going to be dry if a little blustery at times. I'll be at Cherryvale with the kids roaring you on"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2015, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: CD on May 03, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
Best of luck to anyone running tomorrow! Looks like it's going to be dry if a little blustery at times. I'll be at Cherryvale with the kids roaring you on"

Going to head to finishing line at 11 to see the main runners come in. Otherwise id be at my usual dpit at Gideons green
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Good luck today CharlieTully and whoever else in running!

Ballot for London next year is open, no harm in throwing the name down. Doesn't stay open for long....

https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/ballot-entry/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 04, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Good luck today CharlieTully and whoever else in running!

Ballot for London next year is open, no harm in throwing the name down. Doesn't stay open for long....

https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/ballot-entry/
Did it for the craic!
Why would they want to know your occupation though!?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 04, 2015, 09:31:05 AM
Good luck Charlie.. May the Fourth be with you  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 04, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Good luck today CharlieTully and whoever else in running!

Ballot for London next year is open, no harm in throwing the name down. Doesn't stay open for long....

https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/ballot-entry/
Did it for the craic!
Why would they want to know your occupation though!?
illuminati collecting data I'd say....classic brits, up to no good as usual.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2015, 10:21:18 AM
Was going to do it and realised you pay your 35 quid regardless you get selected or not!! That's a serious money maker.... Will probably do Dublin
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 04, 2015, 10:41:39 AM
Filled her in myself! Dublin is the target too - aiming for Ards or Achill half in late June as a wee marker to see how this ankle will stand up! Ran to park run on Saturday and totalled 11 miles with no ill effects so looking ok so far!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
Yeah just did that ballot too. Would only do a marathon if i got in a big one.

Good luck ct. let us know what it was like. Suspect you're hurting by now. Thought the yank would challenge the africans but seems not. Mcginley winning local easy but not going to break 2:20 unfortunately.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 04, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
Kipsang went past on wheels. Must be a nice finish all downhill on the ravenhill. Can't believe how comfortable the sub 3.45 runners are looking. The vast majority are looking really strong. The only guy I saw dying was the first 3.15 pacer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 04, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
Advice needed! My 5k pace is 25 mins. Articles I have read suggest that my long, slow run pace should be 65% of my 5k pace. By my calc that's over 12 min/mile pace - considerably slower than I'm doing them at (10:00 to 10:20). Generally I feel ok at that pace bar maybe the last mile or two. Did over 7 yesterday and did feel tired towards the end.

So am I doing my LSR at too quick a pace? Confused.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
Was a decent day for it but there was strong winds for large parts of it.... Seen the winner cross the line he looked fresh!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 04, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
Advice needed! My 5k pace is 25 mins. Articles I have read suggest that my long, slow run pace should be 65% of my 5k pace. By my calc that's over 12 min/mile pace - considerably slower than I'm doing them at (10:00 to 10:20). Generally I feel ok at that pace bar maybe the last mile or two. Did over 7 yesterday and did feel tired towards the end.

So am I doing my LSR at too quick a pace? Confused.
25 mins for 5K is 8.03 average.
I'd maybe drop your LSR runs by a shade, even to 10.45s....as Bingo said...have them as an "over the hedge run"...Comfortable, well able to talk and look around...all about building aerobic capacity.

Your lactate threshold would be around 8mins30secs per mile going on your 5K pace. This would be your "tempo pace". You're working hard but not flat out.

Your intervals pace would be faster than 8.03...a good bit faster depending on what distance you are doing...400 repeats...800 repeats ect.

Good training week would be
LSR of 7-10 miles at 10.45s...
Tempo session of 1 mile easy warm up...2-3 miles at 8.30 pace....1 mile warm down
Intervals...1 mile warm up...short repeats or 1 min hard/ 1 min easy x 5-8 reps....1 mile warm down
1 or 2 recovery runs..3-4 miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on May 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
well lads, I managed to get round it somehow, not quite the time I had hoped, got 4.46. i found it tough going, was sorely tempted to quit on the antrim road, but the thought of going into work and coming on here saying Id quit gave me the motivation to continue. Thanks for all the advice and words of support,its amazing how it actually helps on the day. special thank you to ballinaman for the pms on stretching advice etc, invaluable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
well lads, I managed to get round it somehow, not quite the time I had hoped, got 4.46. i found it tough going, was sorely tempted to quit on the antrim road, but the thought of going into work and coming on here saying Id quit gave me the motivation to continue. Thanks for all the advice and words of support,its amazing how it actually helps on the day. special thank you to ballinaman for the pms on stretching advice etc, invaluable.
Mighty, congrats chief!
If they were easy..everyone would do it.
Job done, can't be taken away from you now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 04, 2015, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
well lads, I managed to get round it somehow, not quite the time I had hoped, got 4.46. i found it tough going, was sorely tempted to quit on the antrim road, but the thought of going into work and coming on here saying Id quit gave me the motivation to continue. Thanks for all the advice and words of support,its amazing how it actually helps on the day. special thank you to ballinaman for the pms on stretching advice etc, invaluable.
Brilliant delighted for you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 04, 2015, 05:27:01 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
well lads, I managed to get round it somehow, not quite the time I had hoped, got 4.46. i found it tough going, was sorely tempted to quit on the antrim road, but the thought of going into work and coming on here saying Id quit gave me the motivation to continue. Thanks for all the advice and words of support,its amazing how it actually helps on the day. special thank you to ballinaman for the pms on stretching advice etc, invaluable.
Fantastic CT! Many congratulations - some achievement!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 04, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
Thanks Ballinaman. I am a numbers guy generally and often I don't trust how I feel....just think the lazy f**ker in me is getting the upper hand so I tend to fight it. Not always the best idea. You've confirmed some stuff I suspected and simply seeing it written down has a big impact on my following through funnily enough. Still don't underdtand the calculations and as I say I am a number freak but anyway!

Congrats Charlie on a brilliant achievement. I hope some day to attempt to join that exclusive club you have just joined. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 04, 2015, 05:44:28 PM
Well done Charles. You are now a member of the 1% club!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
Great stuff. Well done ct.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 04, 2015, 06:39:35 PM
Well done Charlie, super achievement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on May 04, 2015, 08:37:27 PM
Fair play Charlie.

Was having a chat with a runner recently who made a great point. How many great runners are lost to GAA/Rugby/Soccer. One of our lads who would be up there as the fittest on the panel decided 9 weeks ago to do the marathon for Charity as his sisters not well and hit the 3 hour mark (3h 1s to be exact). I reckon he could have been a fairly serious runner if he had gotten into it younger!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 04, 2015, 08:40:59 PM
Congrats Charlie, well done and hope you enjoyed it.....well on reflection you will have enjoyed it!

And well done BM on the 10km time. Serious effort.

Had another cut at sub40 10km yesterday in the Boyne 10km in Drogheda. First 3km was run in a biblical downpour and lost some time here on what was a long uphill drag. Knew there was a hill at 7km, so banked some time in first 5km. Had planned for 19.30 for halfway and was 19.38. But hill at 7km mark done me, was no let up on it for a solid 1km. Lost over a minute here. Pushed home but was home in 40.45. Placed 47th outa almost 1500, so happy enough that I give everything.

A flat 10km in Dundalk in two weeks and will have another run at it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Screen....absolutely there would be, but a lot come back to it. I've a friend who played football for Waterford who's stopped playing ball and taken up triathlon, he's flying these days.

Serious going bingo, some improvement in times. Can't legislate for a hill like that, Dundalk sounds like a better course.

Speaking of triathlon, those lads are nuts...Brownlee brothers are ridiculous runners.

Enjoyed this 15 minute documentary about the mind when you are under pressure, wanting you to slow and settle for a time rather than pushing on. You either heal to it or drive on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YjUg5XrHY
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2015, 11:00:20 AM
I didn't get charged either...

Well done bingo as well. You'll get the sub 40 soon enough. I had a big struggle for about a year getting it. Great feeling when you do. Tempo work is the key to it...

The triathlon is great viewing BM. The team events when they do them are almost as good an event to watch as you'll see. Alistair had some run in that one last sunday.

The mind plays a lot of tricks on you when racing hard BM but as an old guy in our club said once - no matter how much you're hurting you can be sure the guy racing beside you is too. When you're flat out in a race there is always an overriding feeling to step off as it hurts a lot - I thought it was just me felt like this until I talked to several others about it and they were exactly the same!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 05, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
Agreed. It's like a safety mechanism that kicks in....must be a neurophysiological reason behind it....brain perceives danger in the form of lactic acid building and steps in the tell you to slow down!

Training repetitively in or close to your redzone, must not only improve you ability physiologically to clear the lactic acid and transport oxygen....but also trains your brain not to be see it as danger because you've felt it on numerous occasions....science...it's fantastic ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2015, 04:42:44 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
well lads, I managed to get round it somehow, not quite the time I had hoped, got 4.46. i found it tough going, was sorely tempted to quit on the antrim road, but the thought of going into work and coming on here saying Id quit gave me the motivation to continue. Thanks for all the advice and words of support,its amazing how it actually helps on the day. special thank you to ballinaman for the pms on stretching advice etc, invaluable.

Good man CT, another dose of inspiration for the rest of us in the 99%.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:03:05 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 04, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
Advice needed! My 5k pace is 25 mins. Articles I have read suggest that my long, slow run pace should be 65% of my 5k pace. By my calc that's over 12 min/mile pace - considerably slower than I'm doing them at (10:00 to 10:20). Generally I feel ok at that pace bar maybe the last mile or two. Did over 7 yesterday and did feel tired towards the end.

So am I doing my LSR at too quick a pace? Confused.
Im something similar to this, finally cracked 25 mins at the local park run but last week I did 6.5 miles in under 48 mins (granted the route was flat) but the pace was comfortable and I felt I could have kept going. What distance constitutes a LSR? For me to go any slower would feel like a serious light jog. Im not into the mechanics of running more like start at A and get to B as fast as possible.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:03:05 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 04, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
Advice needed! My 5k pace is 25 mins. Articles I have read suggest that my long, slow run pace should be 65% of my 5k pace. By my calc that's over 12 min/mile pace - considerably slower than I'm doing them at (10:00 to 10:20). Generally I feel ok at that pace bar maybe the last mile or two. Did over 7 yesterday and did feel tired towards the end.

So am I doing my LSR at too quick a pace? Confused.
Im something similar to this, finally cracked 25 mins at the local park run but last week I did 6.5 miles in under 48 mins (granted the route was flat) but the pace was comfortable and I felt I could have kept going. What distance constitutes a LSR? For me to go any slower would feel like a serious light jog. Im not into the mechanics of running more like start at A and get to B as fast as possible.
You sure you mean under 48 mins for 6.5 miles? That's over 10km so you should be easily able break 24 mins for 5k, 23mins even,never mind 25mins!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Fair enough and fair play so.
To be honest if a sub 48min 6.5mile run only feels like a light jog to you then you should be aiming for sub 20 or less 5k.
You were doing about 7:23 min/mile pace for that 6.5miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2015, 09:23:16 PM
If you're going flat out in parkrun then even with hills in the parkrun you should be going a fair bit slower in training.

Is that the waterworks parkrun??

Lsr is whatever is long for you. If you're doing 10ks then 8-10 mile would be enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
I dont think I could do 6.5 miles in 48 minutes even if it was all downhill!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2015, 09:23:16 PM
If you're going flat out in parkrun then even with hills in the parkrun you should be going a fair bit slower in training.

Is that the waterworks parkrun??

Lsr is whatever is long for you. If you're doing 10ks then 8-10 mile would be enough.
No its the Armagh Parkrun there's a few in here could tell how horrible the 2 hills are, they're almost back to back and suck the legs right out of me. Not
that the extra few kgs in I'm carrying help 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2015, 09:32:49 PM
The long runs are a great help in shifting weight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Fair enough and fair play so.
To be honest if a sub 48min 6.5mile run only feels like a light jog to you then you should be aiming for sub 20 or less 5k.
You were doing about 7:23 min/mile pace for that 6.5miles
No im saying if I do an Lsr at a pace of 12/mile it would feel like a light jog. The art of pacing myself is a work in progress
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Fair enough and fair play so.
To be honest if a sub 48min 6.5mile run only feels like a light jog to you then you should be aiming for sub 20 or less 5k.
You were doing about 7:23 min/mile pace for that 6.5miles
No im saying if I do an Lsr at a pace of 12/mile it would feel like a light jog. The art of pacing myself is a work in progress
Sorry,I thought you meant going any slower than the pace you ran when you ran 6.5 miles in 48mins would feel like a serious light jog?
Is that not what you meant? I'm a bit confused!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Fair enough and fair play so.
To be honest if a sub 48min 6.5mile run only feels like a light jog to you then you should be aiming for sub 20 or less 5k.
You were doing about 7:23 min/mile pace for that 6.5miles
No im saying if I do an Lsr at a pace of 12/mile it would feel like a light jog. The art of pacing myself is a work in progress
Sorry,I thought you meant going any slower than the pace you ran when you ran 6.5 miles in 48mins would feel like a serious light jog?
Is that not what you meant? I'm a bit confused!
oh no way lol that was me pushing myself a good bit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 05, 2015, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 05, 2015, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 05, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Aye but there's 2 hills in the Parkrun and they kill me every week.
Fair enough and fair play so.
To be honest if a sub 48min 6.5mile run only feels like a light jog to you then you should be aiming for sub 20 or less 5k.
You were doing about 7:23 min/mile pace for that 6.5miles
No im saying if I do an Lsr at a pace of 12/mile it would feel like a light jog. The art of pacing myself is a work in progress
Sorry,I thought you meant going any slower than the pace you ran when you ran 6.5 miles in 48mins would feel like a serious light jog?
Is that not what you meant? I'm a bit confused!
oh no way lol that was me pushing myself a good bit
OK so! I think if you re read your post you'll see how I thought that!

Anyway I think a lsr of 12/min miles would be way too slow for you and would recommend maybe around 10min/miles.
Also maybe do some hill training to crack those hills on your park run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
I dont think I could do 6.5 miles in 48 minutes even if it was all downhill!!!!

That would be nearly 2 minutes quicker than my best. BenDover you should be looking at a 21/22 min 5K based on that. Find a flatter one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 06, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
I dont think I could do 6.5 miles in 48 minutes even if it was all downhill!!!!

That would be nearly 2 minutes quicker than my best. BenDover you should be looking at a 21/22 min 5K based on that. Find a flatter one!
Are you doing anything at all these days?
You were down to sub 23 for 5k were you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 06, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
I dont think I could do 6.5 miles in 48 minutes even if it was all downhill!!!!

That would be nearly 2 minutes quicker than my best. BenDover you should be looking at a 21/22 min 5K based on that. Find a flatter one!
Are you doing anything at all these days?
You were down to sub 23 for 5k were you?

22:46 in St. Anne's Park run.

Trying hard to get back into it. Did 37k one week then nothing the next. This week a bit better. I have put back on half of the two stone I lost so need to get back to some HR training. I am not giving up though so don't write me off yet though!

Are you going to do another marathon or something different this year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 06, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 06, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2015, 09:26:07 PM
I dont think I could do 6.5 miles in 48 minutes even if it was all downhill!!!!

That would be nearly 2 minutes quicker than my best. BenDover you should be looking at a 21/22 min 5K based on that. Find a flatter one!
Are you doing anything at all these days?
You were down to sub 23 for 5k were you?

22:46 in St. Anne's Park run.

Trying hard to get back into it. Did 37k one week then nothing the next. This week a bit better. I have put back on half of the two stone I lost so need to get back to some HR training. I am not giving up though so don't write me off yet though!

Are you going to do another marathon or something different this year?
Not doing Marathon I have decided.(Doubt the wife would give me the time to train this year  :D)

Going to concentrate on getting my 5k time down for now and then do the Dublin race series starting with the 5 mile next month and maybe one or two other half Marathons like Clontarf and elsewhere.

Will hopefully then do Dublin Marathon again in 2016 and be better prepared with a good 18 months running behind me unlike doing last years with feck all running experience!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 06, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
I have put back on half of the two stone I lost so need to get back to some HR training. I am not giving up though so don't write me off yet though!

Please remind me that you found the HR training good for weight loss.  Getting back on it again, but just hate when my running app tells me that my average pace was over 9m/mile.  So just need to go out with the watch and the heart rate strap and not have the app on for time. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 06, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 06, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
I have put back on half of the two stone I lost so need to get back to some HR training. I am not giving up though so don't write me off yet though!

Please remind me that you found the HR training good for weight loss.  Getting back on it again, but just hate when my running app tells me that my average pace was over 9m/mile.  So just need to go out with the watch and the heart rate strap and not have the app on for time.

Times don't matter when you do the slow runs below your 'recovery ceiling'. But after a while (less than a month if you are out often enough) you'll see the pace really improve with the same heart rate. So it might be worth it to have the app on just to measure (not follow) your pace each week doing the hr stuff.

I found last year the weight really fell off the month I did the heart rate stuff, and am hoping it works again. Obviously not being out so much and eating a bit better helped too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 06, 2015, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 06, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 06, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
I have put back on half of the two stone I lost so need to get back to some HR training. I am not giving up though so don't write me off yet though!

Please remind me that you found the HR training good for weight loss.  Getting back on it again, but just hate when my running app tells me that my average pace was over 9m/mile.  So just need to go out with the watch and the heart rate strap and not have the app on for time.

Times don't matter when you do the slow runs below your 'recovery ceiling'. But after a while (less than a month if you are out often enough) you'll see the pace really improve with the same heart rate. So it might be worth it to have the app on just to measure (not follow) your pace each week doing the hr stuff.

I found last year the weight really fell off the month I did the heart rate stuff, and am hoping it works again. Obviously not being out so much and eating a bit better helped too.

Rois - sounds like you're using an app similar to myself that tells you after every kilometre/mile your split pace. You can turn off the notifications on the app I have but then you'll still have the data afterwards. Might be what you want.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 07, 2015, 07:08:52 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 06, 2015, 06:40:18 PM


Rois - sounds like you're using an app similar to myself that tells you after every kilometre/mile your split pace. You can turn off the notifications on the app I have but then you'll still have the data afterwards. Might be what you want.
Just looked for it and you're right, can just turn that off. I must have set it at the start and couldn't remember. Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on May 07, 2015, 07:31:38 AM
Anyone doing Terenure 5 mile Sunday week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2015, 08:03:50 AM
Been in England this week and have been running 5 k routes in the morning and after work... Times decidedly quicker in the evening..... Is this just our body clock telling us we shouldn't be running that early?? Would it just be a slow longer route in the morning a better option??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on May 07, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
Long-time lurker round the board here. Thought i would share my marathon experience.
Always wanted to do a marathon so i decided i would finally do one this year.
Grabbed a training plan off the internet which was basically 2 short runs during the week and one long run at the weekend gradually building up to 22, 3 weeks before the marathon.
Training was going well, (i ran the Omagh half marathon in 1.45.) however once my long runs got up to 16 miles + i started developing knee pain when running. i carried on and finished the programme and decided to completely rest the knee the week before the marathon.
Anyway, 9 mile into the marathon i was cruising (sticking with the 4hr pacers) i started getting very bad pain on the outside of my knee which was shooting up my hamstring into my butt. I thought a few times i thought i was going to have to pull out but i managed to drag myself round in a time of 4.40. Initially i was very pleased i finished it but on reflection i am not happy with my time and despite telling myself during it i would never attempt this again, i am thinking of entering the Dublin marathon in order to get a better time as i put alot of work into the Belfast marathon and want to seriously improve my time.

Would any of yous have any advice on how to get the knee sorted and have a better training programme to improve my time should i be daft enough and decide to run the Dublin one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 07, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: heffo on May 07, 2015, 07:31:38 AM
Anyone doing Terenure 5 mile Sunday week?

Did it last year. It was my first ever organised run and I enjoyed it. Really well organised.

TBH I had forgotten about it and will decide in the next few days if I will run it. I am a bit behind where I was last year but might give it another go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on May 07, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: heffo on May 07, 2015, 07:31:38 AM
Anyone doing Terenure 5 mile Sunday week?

Did it last year. It was my first ever organised run and I enjoyed it. Really well organised.

TBH I had forgotten about it and will decide in the next few days if I will run it. I am a bit behind where I was last year but might give it another go.

Good stuff haven't done it before and am looking forward to it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2015, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on May 07, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
Long-time lurker round the board here. Thought i would share my marathon experience.
Always wanted to do a marathon so i decided i would finally do one this year.
Grabbed a training plan off the internet which was basically 2 short runs during the week and one long run at the weekend gradually building up to 22, 3 weeks before the marathon.
Training was going well, (i ran the Omagh half marathon in 1.45.) however once my long runs got up to 16 miles + i started developing knee pain when running. i carried on and finished the programme and decided to completely rest the knee the week before the marathon.
Anyway, 9 mile into the marathon i was cruising (sticking with the 4hr pacers) i started getting very bad pain on the outside of my knee which was shooting up my hamstring into my butt. I thought a few times i thought i was going to have to pull out but i managed to drag myself round in a time of 4.40. Initially i was very pleased i finished it but on reflection i am not happy with my time and despite telling myself during it i would never attempt this again, i am thinking of entering the Dublin marathon in order to get a better time as i put alot of work into the Belfast marathon and want to seriously improve my time.

Would any of yous have any advice on how to get the knee sorted and have a better training programme to improve my time should i be daft enough and decide to run the Dublin one.

I would suggest see a physio. Dublin is ages away so you've plenty of time but if you don't see a professional then it's probably likely to occur again.

Also I would suggest to make sure and stretch key muscle groups plenty - hamstrings, quads, hip flexors and calves at least.

Training wise plenty of plans out there on the net. Various theories on them but there are a few on here who have done marathons recently so should be well placed. Try and get some runs in regularly to keep the fitness up and get used to it prior to starting something like a 16 week plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on May 08, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
Thanks for that tommy,

Was at physio and he seems to think tendonitis in the knee, still a big lump on the side of my knee. He gave me some exercises to do and i am on anti-inflammatories I am finally walking properly again after Monday! lol Hadn't bothered with football while i was training for marathon, but will go back now next week.

What would be your recommendation about the best plan to go for, bearing in mind i probably wont have the same amount of time to devote to this next training plan.

Am i right in thinking that the Dublin marathon is meant to be slightly easier than Belfast!  a flatter course?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 08, 2015, 09:17:56 AM
Quote from: The_geezer on May 08, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
Thanks for that tommy,

Was at physio and he seems to think tendonitis in the knee, still a big lump on the side of my knee. He gave me some exercises to do and i am on anti-inflammatories I am finally walking properly again after Monday! lol Hadn't bothered with football while i was training for marathon, but will go back now next week.

What would be your recommendation about the best plan to go for, bearing in mind i probably wont have the same amount of time to devote to this next training plan.

Am i right in thinking that the Dublin marathon is meant to be slightly easier than Belfast!  a flatter course?
Dublin is flat in most parts but there are some pretty steep parts also.
There are some long drags as well where you are going up a slight incline that you wouldn't notice if you were driving it for example but can catch you out when running! From The Coombe up to Crumlin hospital for example and up through the Phoenix Park is another.
I have heard a few more seasoned marathoners say the new Dublin course(which was used last year)is tougher than the old one.
Saying that,I don't know what Belfast is like so can't compare.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 08, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
It'd definitely be an easier course in Dublin and that combined with more spectators and a better general atmosphere make it a much more pleasant experience in my opinion.
I used the intermediate halhigdon plan last time around and it had me prepared for 3.35 although injury meant I didn't make the start line.
4.40 is a very respectable time for a marathon given that you were dragging that knee around!

anyone doing the Les Jones at Mary Peters next Friday evening?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 10, 2015, 08:21:16 PM
First 10k in the bag. My first run over 7km. Struggled a bit towards the end but ultimately worthwhile.

Onto the next one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 11, 2015, 01:26:57 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 10, 2015, 08:21:16 PM
First 10k in the bag. My first run over 7km. Struggled a bit towards the end but ultimately worthwhile.

Onto the next one.

Good man Gab, well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Muck Savage on May 11, 2015, 04:01:27 AM
Quote from: The_geezer on May 07, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
Long-time lurker round the board here. Thought i would share my marathon experience.
Always wanted to do a marathon so i decided i would finally do one this year.
Grabbed a training plan off the internet which was basically 2 short runs during the week and one long run at the weekend gradually building up to 22, 3 weeks before the marathon.
Training was going well, (i ran the Omagh half marathon in 1.45.) however once my long runs got up to 16 miles + i started developing knee pain when running. i carried on and finished the programme and decided to completely rest the knee the week before the marathon.
Anyway, 9 mile into the marathon i was cruising (sticking with the 4hr pacers) i started getting very bad pain on the outside of my knee which was shooting up my hamstring into my butt. I thought a few times i thought i was going to have to pull out but i managed to drag myself round in a time of 4.40. Initially i was very pleased i finished it but on reflection i am not happy with my time and despite telling myself during it i would never attempt this again, i am thinking of entering the Dublin marathon in order to get a better time as i put alot of work into the Belfast marathon and want to seriously improve my time.

Would any of yous have any advice on how to get the knee sorted and have a better training programme to improve my time should i be daft enough and decide to run the Dublin one.

The shoe you wear could help this. I use to run with Asics all the time but at one stage switched to Muzino shoes for one marathon. Was OK running anything under 1/2 marathon but once I went above had the very same problem. Outside of the knee all the way up to the base of my back by the time I was finished. Switched back to Asics and no problem within about 1 week. Haven't switched since.
Get fitted out in a proper Sports store where they check you stance etc.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 11, 2015, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 10, 2015, 08:21:16 PM
First 10k in the bag. My first run over 7km. Struggled a bit towards the end but ultimately worthwhile.

Onto the next one.
No bother to you. 10miler then a half marathon next!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 11, 2015, 09:38:07 AM
Quote from: Muck Savage on May 11, 2015, 04:01:27 AM
Quote from: The_geezer on May 07, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
Long-time lurker round the board here. Thought i would share my marathon experience.
Always wanted to do a marathon so i decided i would finally do one this year.
Grabbed a training plan off the internet which was basically 2 short runs during the week and one long run at the weekend gradually building up to 22, 3 weeks before the marathon.
Training was going well, (i ran the Omagh half marathon in 1.45.) however once my long runs got up to 16 miles + i started developing knee pain when running. i carried on and finished the programme and decided to completely rest the knee the week before the marathon.
Anyway, 9 mile into the marathon i was cruising (sticking with the 4hr pacers) i started getting very bad pain on the outside of my knee which was shooting up my hamstring into my butt. I thought a few times i thought i was going to have to pull out but i managed to drag myself round in a time of 4.40. Initially i was very pleased i finished it but on reflection i am not happy with my time and despite telling myself during it i would never attempt this again, i am thinking of entering the Dublin marathon in order to get a better time as i put alot of work into the Belfast marathon and want to seriously improve my time.

Would any of yous have any advice on how to get the knee sorted and have a better training programme to improve my time should i be daft enough and decide to run the Dublin one.

The shoe you wear could help this. I use to run with Asics all the time but at one stage switched to Muzino shoes for one marathon. Was OK running anything under 1/2 marathon but once I went above had the very same problem. Outside of the knee all the way up to the base of my back by the time I was finished. Switched back to Asics and no problem within about 1 week. Haven't switched since.
Get fitted out in a proper Sports store where they check you stance etc.
Hope this helps.
Skeptic hat on here so bear with me....

I've changed shoes myself before and felt niggles come on and go when I've reverted back to regular running shoes. Countless stories similar to yours Muck too.
However, all the research is saying that shoes basically can't counteract force when your foot hits the ground....think about it, however much Kg X speed hitting the ground....bit of foam from Asics/Nike won't do a lot to attenuate it.
But what the shoe can do is force your foot to land in a certain way and there by alter the ground reaction force...guide it basically. So what am I getting at....it's you not the shoe. Foot strike is vital but so is....
Ankle range of movement
calf flexibility
knee stability
quad flexibility
quad strength
hip range of movement
gluteal strength/activation patterns
balance and awareness
and about 10 other factors too....

Shoes are multi million euro industry so they'll want you to think the newest 170 euro asics runner will do the job but you have the ability yourself without spending a load of money.
Not advocating the barefoot running craic with the tribe in mexico....our genetic makeup is different, we haven't been walking in barefeet all through our childhood building natural strength in our feet and the terrain in cities is a fairly different from dirt roads in Kenya/Mexico ect!

Also, be wary of shop assistants in sports shops reading from a script, they are doing their best but there are podiatrists who have spent 4 years in college who struggle to analyse foot pattern in a hour long consultation..

In summary....get a shoe that your find comfortable, doesn't have to be mad expensive..if you look after a few other aspects of how you run you'll be fine, shoe isn't the determining factor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 11, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
In other words, it's not the bow it's the Indian.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 11, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 11, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
In other words, it's not the bow it's the Indian.
Spot on.
As with everything, buying a nice bow would be so much easier...no work needed. But we're slightly more complicated yokes!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on May 11, 2015, 10:26:56 AM
Thanks for that, have a pair of 'expensivish' asics trainers. Think i will try and strengthen the knee up before i go again.
Chatting to a friend and he advised using the knee press machine. Foot is still sore but im staring back training for football this afternoon.

any good websites which give advice of good running form/gait.

cheers all advice very much appreciated
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 11, 2015, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: The_geezer on May 11, 2015, 10:26:56 AM
Thanks for that, have a pair of 'expensivish' asics trainers. Think i will try and strengthen the knee up before i go again.
Chatting to a friend and he advised using the knee press machine. Foot is still sore but im staring back training for football this afternoon.

any good websites which give advice of good running form/gait.

cheers all advice very much appreciated
You can't beat a bit of hands on assessment if there is anyone in your area who would have a good reputation.

I've be wary of any clinician who still uses the "tendonitis" term though....."itis" means inflammatory and rarely running injuries are inflammatory (apart from initial few days of injury), unless there is a history of inflammatory conditions in the family.

Tendonopathy is a much better way of describing tendon issues that have been going on a few weeks. Describes tendon disruption which doesn't have inflammatory markers associated with it.

Check out this lad, good information here.
https://www.youtube.com/user/RunningRevolution
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 14, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
I had blisters on the second toe on both feet after my long run last weekend (never happened before) so I'm going to give this a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 14, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
Was shown that wee trick a few years back in one of the AmphianKing stores in Dublin.

Very useful and your foot defo feels like a tighter fit with it done. Can easily over tighten it as well on the bridge of your foot as well, so make sure to avoid this.
Title: Injury Advice
Post by: No1 on May 14, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Been carrying a niggly calf/achilles for the last month and tried to run through the pain but today I think I've strained or pulled the calf quite badly. About 4 mile into the run felt a sharp extremely sore pain in the calf and had to stop completely and limped all the way home.

Still very sore now. I'm about to book a physio appointment but I thought I'd see if anyone on this thread had any advice? Already paid for the Lisburn Half in mid June!
Title: Re: Injury Advice
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on May 15, 2015, 12:47:45 AM
Quote from: No1 on May 14, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Been carrying a niggly calf/achilles for the last month and tried to run through the pain but today I think I've strained or pulled the calf quite badly. About 4 mile into the run felt a sharp extremely sore pain in the calf and had to stop completely and limped all the way home.

Still very sore now. I'm about to book a physio appointment but I thought I'd see if anyone on this thread had any advice? Already paid for the Lisburn Half in mid June!

unfortunately only complete rest will fix it.

it took me a month to recover the last time i did it.

lisburn will be touch and go imo
Title: Re: Injury Advice
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2015, 08:04:15 AM
Quote from: No1 on May 14, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Been carrying a niggly calf/achilles for the last month and tried to run through the pain but today I think I've strained or pulled the calf quite badly. About 4 mile into the run felt a sharp extremely sore pain in the calf and had to stop completely and limped all the way home.

Still very sore now. I'm about to book a physio appointment but I thought I'd see if anyone on this thread had any advice? Already paid for the Lisburn Half in mid June!

Ice it for a day or two then stretch it after that few days is up. If you're limping you probably have a bit of recovery time...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 15, 2015, 09:34:20 AM
Had planned a crack at 10km sub40m tomorrow but for 2nd time in a month I'll miss out on it (incidently on the same course, which is very flat). Haven't laced a runner since Friday after been laid down most of the week with some virus or infection for the second time in a month.

Gonna rest up for the week and then ease back into it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 15, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
Found a interval session online called the 'Gut Buster'  ;D
Gonna try it tonight.

4x 400
4x 800
2x 1600

1 min rest between each rep 2 min rest between each set.
http://youtu.be/lSPNQ82Sq4E
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
How about Haille's intervals LL...

50 x 400m at 63 secs with thirty secs rest

Easy!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Took family over to park run at waterworks today, splendid if not just a bit windy in parts... Managed first in my age group!! 14th over all over 200 odd runners I think!! 20.28. !! Whoop
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 16, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Took family over to park run at waterworks today, splendid if not just a bit windy in parts... Managed first in my age group!! 14th over all over 200 odd runners I think!! 20.28. !! Whoop
Super running MR! You aiming for Lisburn?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: CD on May 16, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Took family over to park run at waterworks today, splendid if not just a bit windy in parts... Managed first in my age group!! 14th over all over 200 odd runners I think!! 20.28. !! Whoop
Super running MR! You aiming for Lisburn?
Did it last year, believe they have changed route... Was I interested in 10k for lisburn.. Doubt I could beat last years time of 1.38 as haven't been out on roads over ant big distances
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 25, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Got out yesterday and did my first organised run in over a year (apart from a single parkrun back in Feb) - the 12km HBF run for a reason in Perth.

Hadn't managed much in the way of preparation so was running just to finish, though over 1:10 would have been a disappointment.

Did 2 x 9.3km runs last week as prep, and ended up hobbling home the last 2km from the second one with a blister. Put a plaster on it the day of the race ad it was grand.

Managed to do it in 1:07:28, so happy with that. Hopefully use that as a springboard to do my first official half marathon on 30th August
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on May 25, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Started back this week with an hour 10k and 22m parkrun on Saturday. I'm hoping to do a half marathon in August but I had real trouble with the 10k on my knees and I'm still sore after the Park run.

Do any of you know if its advisable\possible to run the longer distances having had ACL operations on both legs? I haven't started training properly yet and would love to get stuck in but not if I'm going to be crippled!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Anyone had "hip impingement" (FAI). Been plaguing me as last 6 months any time I do heavy running at training eg: sprints & sharp turns/twists, as well as sprints on my own on treadmill, 400m runs etc.

Physio has given hip mobility programme, which I've been doing 3-4 times a week , but it only warms the joint up, giving it a better range of motion again. After a game or training its back to square one and I'm limping... and now its spread into the groin.

Could this be symptoms of a hernia or has anyone had this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 25, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Anyone had "hip impingement" (FAI). Been plaguing me as last 6 months any time I do heavy running at training eg: sprints & sharp turns/twists, as well as sprints on my own on treadmill, 400m runs etc.

Physio has given hip mobility programme, which I've been doing 3-4 times a week , but it only warms the joint up, giving it a better range of motion again. After a game or training its back to square one and I'm limping... and now its spread into the groin.

Could this be symptoms of a hernia or has anyone had this?
Have you had any imaging on it? A confirmed diagnosis?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 25, 2015, 03:04:04 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 25, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Started back this week with an hour 10k and 22m parkrun on Saturday. I'm hoping to do a half marathon in August but I had real trouble with the 10k on my knees and I'm still sore after the Park run.

Do any of you know if its advisable\possible to run the longer distances having had ACL operations on both legs? I haven't started training properly yet and would love to get stuck in but not if I'm going to be crippled!!
Absolutely but will require core stability, gluteal strengthening and massive work on hams, quads and adductors...absolutely possible if you are willing to put in the work. Much easier rehab when just wanting to run in a straight line compared to getting back on a pitch post ACL.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on May 25, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Got out yesterday and did my first organised run in over a year (apart from a single parkrun back in Feb) - the 12km HBF run for a reason in Perth.

Hadn't managed much in the way of preparation so was running just to finish, though over 1:10 would have been a disappointment.

Did 2 x 9.3km runs last week as prep, and ended up hobbling home the last 2km from the second one with a blister. Put a plaster on it the day of the race ad it was grand.

Managed to do it in 1:07:28, so happy with that. Hopefully use that as a springboard to do my first official half marathon on 30th August

Good man, that is a minute of my time for 12k at the moment. But it is coming down slowly. Did a slow 10 miles last week along with a 6k and an 11k. Finally getting back into the swing of things.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Good man muppet. Still plenty of time to register for Dublin..... ;)

I'm gonna do my first park run of the year next weekend.
Have been doing a good bit of interval training and hills the last few weeks so hoping for a good time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2015, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 25, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Good man muppet. Still plenty of time to register for Dublin..... ;)

I'm gonna do my first park run of the year next weekend.
Have been doing a good bit of interval training and hills the last few weeks so hoping for a good time.

You ran 24 something last year, didn't you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2015, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2015, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 25, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Good man muppet. Still plenty of time to register for Dublin..... ;)

I'm gonna do my first park run of the year next weekend.
Have been doing a good bit of interval training and hills the last few weeks so hoping for a good time.

You ran 24 something last year, didn't you?
24'00 in middle of Marathon training. Hoping to get near enough that on Saturday and work on getting it down over summer.
Apart from doing couch to 5k I haven't really ever done any 5k training to get my times down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Just run faster
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 25, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
Went out and did my first 10k at race pace in a long time. I know the fitness is generally good and I've done some good tempo runs recently so was hopeful of a decent time (for me - I'm targeting sub 55 mins). Probably went a bit hard at the start over the easier part of the course (3 miles in 26 mins dead) and the succession of small hills in the second half blew me up (ended up well over 57 mins for 10k). How much of this was going to hard at the start and how much was me needing the longer run at a stiffer pace?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 25, 2015, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 25, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
Went out and did my first 10k at race pace in a long time. I know the fitness is generally good and I've done some good tempo runs recently so was hopeful of a decent time (for me - I'm targeting sub 55 mins). Probably went a bit hard at the start over the easier part of the course (3 miles in 26 mins dead) and the succession of small hills in the second half blew me up (ended up well over 57 mins for 10k). How much of this was going to hard at the start and how much was me needing the longer run at a stiffer pace?
Biteen of both I would say.
Quick start would have had your energy stores reduced early and would have had you running longer depleted, combined with a tougher route on 2nd half of course....recipe for running out of gas if ever there was one.
No harm though, would have been a good session anyway as you were working and you'll be better for it.
Few easy days now to allow muscle adaptions to kick in and go hard again maybe Thursday/Friday if you get the chance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 25, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
You're Always a fountain of great advice Ballinaman! I have what I've been told is fluid in my left Achilles. It's more uncomfortable than anything else but I've recently been doing 7/8 miles on a Saturday morning and then finishing off with a park run at about 20 minute pace and I've been getting the odd sharp pain the following day. My plan is to do a half marathon or two in June/July then prepare for Dublin again. Any advice on managing this injury? Also - was hoping to do Achill Island half - would it be a bit sore on a achilles injury?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 25, 2015, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Just run faster
You should have told the Antrim hurlers to Just play better yesterday and maybe they might have won.
Lol ( as you would say yourself)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 25, 2015, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
Just run faster
You should have told the Antrim hurlers to Just play better yesterday and maybe they might have won.
Lol ( as you would say yourself)

They are playing shite, whether they ran quicker would not make any difference numbnuts ;D....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on May 25, 2015, 08:38:23 PM
I never mentioned running quicker numbnuts....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 25, 2015, 08:39:56 PM
Quote from: CD on May 25, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
You're Always a fountain of great advice Ballinaman! I have what I've been told is fluid in my left Achilles. It's more uncomfortable than anything else but I've recently been doing 7/8 miles on a Saturday morning and then finishing off with a park run at about 20 minute pace and I've been getting the odd sharp pain the following day. My plan is to do a half marathon or two in June/July then prepare for Dublin again. Any advice on managing this injury? Also - was hoping to do Achill Island half - would it be a bit sore on a achilles injury?
Achilles management depends on the location hugely....if it's mid portional or insertional achilles........mid would be in the bit that you can grab between your fingers and insertional would be right onto the heel bone.

You need range at the ankle joint by doing these....measure distance from big toe to wall that you can touch your knee WITHOUT heel coming off the ground. Normal values are 8cm -12cm....should try at least get 8cm of a gap. If there is a difference of more than 3cm between ankles...it's risk factor for lower limb injury. Good thing for everyone to check really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGjJkurZlGw

If the achilles pain is insertional...ie, onto the bone...avoid dropping heels down off a step to stretch, only compresses the tendon more and will make you worse not better!

My advice would be to get on top of it now and not let it develop...tendinopathies...either in the shoulder, patella or achilles are tricky to manage if they become chronic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: annapr on May 25, 2015, 08:38:23 PM
I never mentioned running quicker numbnuts....

Its a running thread, if you want to have a discussion on hurling and Antrim's terrible form then yes we'll chat
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 25, 2015, 09:02:10 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 25, 2015, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 25, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
Went out and did my first 10k at race pace in a long time. I know the fitness is generally good and I've done some good tempo runs recently so was hopeful of a decent time (for me - I'm targeting sub 55 mins). Probably went a bit hard at the start over the easier part of the course (3 miles in 26 mins dead) and the succession of small hills in the second half blew me up (ended up well over 57 mins for 10k). How much of this was going to hard at the start and how much was me needing the longer run at a stiffer pace?
Biteen of both I would say.
Quick start would have had your energy stores reduced early and would have had you running longer depleted, combined with a tougher route on 2nd half of course....recipe for running out of gas if ever there was one.
No harm though, would have been a good session anyway as you were working and you'll be better for it.
Few easy days now to allow muscle adaptions to kick in and go hard again maybe Thursday/Friday if you get the chance.

Thanks Ballinaman. I've been following your advice and trying to aim for the sessions you outlined previously and the results have been good. I'll try and do a couple of light sessions and then a good blaster again late in the week. Finding it difficult to get the time to fit the runs in. Used to get a couple done at lunchtime but renovations in work = no showers for the foreseeable so it's early morning or late night. Still - should top 100k this month for the first time ever and enjoying it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2015, 05:33:43 PM
Lisburn city half and 10K races coming up soon, anyone doing them? CD, Rios?? Going to do the 10k...42mins target
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 27, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
Yep, going to do 10k but have no hope of breaking 50mins, haven't been out much in the past two weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 27, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
What date is the lisburn on? If I remember right, its a midweek race.

Been back a few weeks now after a break of nearly 2 weeks and glad to be back. Rest seemed to do the world of good. Feel far fresher now, got up 25miles last week and 12.5miles this week already.

Loosely planning on doing the Dunshaughlin 10km on 20th June for a craic at sub40m and then Clontarf half on 4th July. That would have take me up to a 12 week countdown to Berlin and the 12wk plan that I intend to follow which is high mileage and will be demanding.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
Lisburn isn't the best of courses for a time bingo...

It's always on a wednesday though not sure of date this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 27, 2015, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
Lisburn isn't the best of courses for a time bingo...

It's always on a wednesday though not sure of date this year.

Had heard that alright, if it suited might just run the half as a runout rather than race it.

Saying that, if its midweek might to hard to get up to it in time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
There's a new half course this year apparently which I heard was a lot faster. The problem with the 10k is that if you're going any way fast you hit the tail end of the half marathon race and have to meander through them. When you're trying to get through them and some guy plonks himself right in front of you to tie his lace it doesn't help!! It's also hilly enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 27, 2015, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
There's a new half course this year apparently which I heard was a lot faster. The problem with the 10k is that if you're going any way fast you hit the tail end of the half marathon race and have to meander through them. When you're trying to get through them and some guy plonks himself right in front of you to tie his lace it doesn't help!! It's also hilly enough.

Cheers.
Had look at website there. Half starts 6.45pm and 10KM 7.10pm on Wed 17th June. So you could run into traffic on the back end but you'd hope it be well spread out at that stage.

They are saying its a new course with no hills. They have a race map but no garmin or mapmyrun type profile to show the elevation.

Will keep it in mind but I see that registration closes on the 5th June.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2015, 11:56:03 AM
Last time I did it there was registration on the day but it was at least a tenner,maybe more, dearer - it was quite extortionate.

They may even have pacers - I know they do for the half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 27, 2015, 01:06:59 PM
http://rw.runnersworld.com/sub-2/?cid=social46477606&adbid=10152802357111987&adbpl=fb&adbpr=9815486986 (http://rw.runnersworld.com/sub-2/?cid=social46477606&adbid=10152802357111987&adbpl=fb&adbpr=9815486986)

Some folks may enjoy this - loads of stats and very well presented. Will take a while though and has sorted my lunch hour!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 02:29:10 PM
Was there a strava group set up, got out for the first time in a while over the weekend - with football and injury holding me back for the last few months, the group would definitely help the motivation
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
Just signed up - where on the page is the groups? When i search GAA Board & GAA BOARD (as a test) in 'Explore - Clubs' the following comes up;

No clubs with the name GAA Board found.

Also not sure it is compatible with my watch (Nike+) might have to do some tinkering but sure I can work round that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 27, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
I'm on it too, but would only post a fraction of the miles that the rest do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on May 27, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2015, 05:33:43 PM
Lisburn city half and 10K races coming up soon, anyone doing them? CD, Rios?? Going to do the 10k...42mins target

was hoping to do it but anytime I have run since the marathon have to stop after a couple of miles with pain in my upper right leg, hip flexors groin area. have tried ice baths, ART and rolling and stretching but its getting no better. pissed off and getting fat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Signed up, will see about uploading shortly
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 27, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
many thanks for the advice Ballinaman! Not a pleasant wee niggle this one!
hoping to do Lisburn MR. Haven't decided on Half or 10k. If 10k I'll target 42 mins. Did Les Jones there in 42.59 and was comfortable at that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: CD on May 27, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
many thanks for the advice Ballinaman! Not a pleasant wee niggle this one!
hoping to do Lisburn MR. Haven't decided on Half or 10k. If 10k I'll target 42 mins. Did Les Jones there in 42.59 and was comfortable at that.

Would love another 42 but will settle for 44 as I haven't done 6/8 miles for a while... 3 milers daily but hopefully on day feel strong enough...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 28, 2015, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
Just signed up - where on the page is the groups? When i search GAA Board & GAA BOARD (as a test) in 'Explore - Clubs' the following comes up;

No clubs with the name GAA Board found.

Also not sure it is compatible with my watch (Nike+) might have to do some tinkering but sure I can work round that.

Let us know how you go with that - I have a strava account, but I use the Nike+ watch for my runs - can they be linked?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 28, 2015, 07:37:22 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on May 28, 2015, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
Just signed up - where on the page is the groups? When i search GAA Board & GAA BOARD (as a test) in 'Explore - Clubs' the following comes up;

No clubs with the name GAA Board found.

Also not sure it is compatible with my watch (Nike+) might have to do some tinkering but sure I can work round that.

Let us know how you go with that - I have a strava account, but I use the Nike+ watch for my runs - can they be linked?
Use this to download the files from your Nike + account to your computer
https://mattstuehler.com/lab/NikePlus/

Then just upload them manually to Strava.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 28, 2015, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 28, 2015, 07:37:22 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on May 28, 2015, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on May 27, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
Just signed up - where on the page is the groups? When i search GAA Board & GAA BOARD (as a test) in 'Explore - Clubs' the following comes up;

No clubs with the name GAA Board found.

Also not sure it is compatible with my watch (Nike+) might have to do some tinkering but sure I can work round that.

Let us know how you go with that - I have a strava account, but I use the Nike+ watch for my runs - can they be linked?
Use this to download the files from your Nike + account to your computer
https://mattstuehler.com/lab/NikePlus/

Then just upload them manually to Strava.

Cheers, just tried it there and uploaded my latest run, though it cut off when I went through a tunnel at 2.5km!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
Warriors Run online registration is open.....not sure for how long, it sells out quickly.

http://www.warriorsfestival.com/ (http://www.warriorsfestival.com/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 28, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
Warriors Run online registration is open.....not sure for how long, it sells out quickly.

http://www.warriorsfestival.com/ (http://www.warriorsfestival.com/)
I'm assuming 'event limit has reached its maximum value' means it's sold out! 10 minutes in it tells you that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
6 miles tonight...gentle run and into a Pilates class afters!! Nice end to the day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 29, 2015, 12:05:16 AM
Quote from: CD on May 28, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
Warriors Run online registration is open.....not sure for how long, it sells out quickly.

http://www.warriorsfestival.com/ (http://www.warriorsfestival.com/)
I'm assuming 'event limit has reached its maximum value' means it's sold out! 10 minutes in it tells you that!

Ah balls to that. I know from last year and talking to people who do it every year that there is no problem picking up an entry with people dropping out etc closer to the time. Last year was my first time and the night after the race was one of the best nights ever. Massive buzz in the village.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on May 30, 2015, 11:52:15 AM
Parkrun PB this morning! Woohoo! Thought I'd maxed out! Didn't do the long slow run beforehand so had a bit more in the legs. Wine and a Chinese for me tonight!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
Quote from: CD on May 30, 2015, 11:52:15 AM
Parkrun PB this morning! Woohoo! Thought I'd maxed out! Didn't do the long slow run beforehand so had a bit more in the legs. Wine and a Chinese for me tonight!

Brilliant, im sure tongue was hanging the whole time!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 05, 2015, 11:48:58 AM
@Laoislad - is the Grifeen Parkrun totally flat? Have only been at the GAA pitches and wouldn't mind a go at a new PB tomorrow..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 05, 2015, 12:07:53 PM
Yeah it's pretty much flat.
It's a two lap course, with a long straight stretch of about 1km on both laps, wind is usually in your back also for these stretches.
I always hate the last bit when you go over the little bridge after the long stretch, up toward the finish line, it's only about 800mts but I always struggle here.

Doing Marlay Park myself tomorrow. Would also like to try Tymon Park some time and I think there is a new one in Palmerstown.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 05, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 05, 2015, 12:07:53 PM
Yeah it's pretty much flat.
It's a two lap course, with a long straight stretch of about 1km on both laps, wind is usually in your back also for these stretches.
I always hate the last bit when you go over the little bridge after the long stretch, up toward the finish line, it's only about 800mts but I always struggle here.

Doing Marlay Park myself tomorrow. Would also like to try Tymon Park some time and I think there is a new one in Palmerstown.

Cheers. Marlay Pk is nice - one lap. There is also a farmers market on afterwards and you can get some savage food.

Palmerstown (Waterstown Park) is very hilly - it's essentially a park on the side of a hill from Stewarts hospital going down to the Liffey
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 05, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
Been around Marlay a good few times, first time doing their park run though.

I see Kilkenny have a park run now also, gonna be down home in a few weekends time and will do it.
Should be nice as its in the Castle grounds.
Park run is great really considering it's free.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 05, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
Castleblayney Parkrun confirmed this week and will start in early July. Great news.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 05, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 05, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
Castleblayney Parkrun confirmed this week and will start in early July. Great news.

Were you involved in setting it up Bingo? I'd say there is a brave bit of work in it, would love to have one close to home and toyed with the idea of getting involved with starting one, just don't think I would have the time to set it up and the weekly commitment to running it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 05, 2015, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 05, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
Been around Marlay a good few times, first time doing their park run though.

I see Kilkenny have a park run now also, gonna be down home in a few weekends time and will do it.
Should be nice as its in the Castle grounds.
Park run is great really considering it's free.

They're really good - enjoy Marlay
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on June 06, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
http://www.tinyrunner.org.uk/an-open-letter-to-parkrun-volunteers

Parkruns- only second to the Ulster championship as the best thing ever
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2015, 01:16:18 PM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on June 06, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
http://www.tinyrunner.org.uk/an-open-letter-to-parkrun-volunteers

Parkruns- only second to the Ulster championship as the best thing ever

Was at waterworks today again... Running with my daughter who is well and truly hooked!! The volunteers are super and full credit to them....must have been over 250 today
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 06, 2015, 06:56:34 PM
It was a windy one this morning for the Parkrun in Dublin!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 06, 2015, 09:35:24 PM
How'd you do? Didn't make Marlay myself,the youngest was up all night teething so I was like a boiled shite this morning. Didn't feel like running anywhere!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 06, 2015, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 06, 2015, 09:35:24 PM
How'd you do? Didn't make Marlay myself,the youngest was up all night teething so I was like a boiled shite this morning. Didn't feel like running anywhere!

Went to Marlay in the end, was late arriving and went to the old start point so went for a run and met the group half way around. Didn't feel great and came in under 24 - was hoping for 22 or maybe lower. I finished a km short of 5km at the finish line so did a lap or two of the soccer pitch - not a vintage day!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 09, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
heading to Westport for the weekend, planning on doing parkrun, looking forward to it, as I say with no local parkrun I haven't done one since we moved home last August
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on June 16, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
Done my first half marathon at the weekend, please enough with the time, 1.40. Only started training around 6 weeks before. Feel there is room for improvement, need to get an event in for July considering a sprint Tri or another half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
Quote from: pullhard on June 16, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
Done my first half marathon at the weekend, please enough with the time, 1.40. Only started training around 6 weeks before. Feel there is room for improvement, need to get an event in for July considering a sprint Tri or another half.

Must be fairly fit to do that in 1.40 smashing time.. Lisburn half on tomorrow night (probably too soon) loads of sprint tri events around the country http://www.triathlonireland.com/ best site to check out the events and register...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on June 16, 2015, 06:11:22 PM
Did a 1.41 half at the weekend. Not bad but was hoping for a sub 1:40 but ran a 15k race 6 days before and did it harder than I had intended and hadn t recovered.

Got up at 5:30 and drove to the event. On the way home I was so sleepy I had to pull over and snooze. I was terrified but it was too dangerous to pull up on the hard shoulder of the N17. I thought I d never get off the road without killing myself and others. I just couldn t stop nodding off. Eventually I got off the N17 and parked up and shut my eyes. I was woken up when the missus rang wondering was I nearly home. I may only have dozed for 5/10 mins but was A1 again and wide awake the rest of the way.

This is not the first time this has happened to me after an event and I doubt if I'm alone. I remember a runner was killed in a crash a few years ago returning from an ultra marathon and I ve often wondered about the cause. No other vehicle involved.

I ve never come across any warnings or advice about the dangers of falling asleep while driving after an event.

I don t drink coffee usually but going to have to do something to stop this happening again. Last summer I actually did nod off and was lucky somebody woke me up with car horn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2015, 06:47:32 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 16, 2015, 06:11:22 PM
Did a 1.41 half at the weekend. Not bad but was hoping for a sub 1:40 but ran a 15k race 6 days before and did it harder than I had intended and hadn t recovered.

Got up at 5:30 and drove to the event. On the way home I was so sleepy I had to pull over and snooze. I was terrified but it was too dangerous to pull up on the hard shoulder of the N17. I thought I d never get off the road without killing myself and others. I just couldn t stop nodding off. Eventually I got off the N17 and parked up and shut my eyes. I was woken up when the missus rang wondering was I nearly home. I may only have dozed for 5/10 mins but was A1 again and wide awake the rest of the way.

This is not the first time this has happened to me after an event and I doubt if I'm alone. I remember a runner was killed in a crash a few years ago returning from an ultra marathon and I ve often wondered about the cause. No other vehicle involved.

I ve never come across any warnings or advice about the dangers of falling asleep while driving after an event.

I don t drink coffee usually but going to have to do something to stop this happening again. Last summer I actually did nod off and was lucky somebody woke me up with car horn.

Nightmare, I'm a bit like that also but just in general, If i drive 60 miles I generally want to have a doze, any of the big events I've done my family usually there so she drives home.. If not I've had a tin of red bull to get me past that hump
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on June 17, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
Quote from: pullhard on June 16, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
Done my first half marathon at the weekend, please enough with the time, 1.40. Only started training around 6 weeks before. Feel there is room for improvement, need to get an event in for July considering a sprint Tri or another half.

Must be fairly fit to do that in 1.40 smashing time.. Lisburn half on tomorrow night (probably too soon) loads of sprint tri events around the country http://www.triathlonireland.com/ best site to check out the events and register...

Cheers lads, im over the other side of the water. done a few Parkruns then fired myself into training.
Look forward and concerned at the Tri, swimming isn't a strong point, but if i don't die i should make up plenty of ground on the bike and run. There expense to do £55 for the one in liverpool.

I've had a fatty recovery week so far going to get out for 4/5 miles gentle tomorrow to get the legs going again.

I've 8/9kgs over fighting really need to lose this as its killing my times.

Thinking of doing this for a training plan for the coming weeks:
m - 4/5 gentle
t - tempo run
wed - off
th - intervals or hills
fri - gentle 4/5
sat - off
sun - long gentle 13-15 mile

what do you think?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: charlieTully on June 17, 2015, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year

best of luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2015, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year
why do they have it on a wednesday night? would a weekend not draw an even bigger crowd? would have done it myself if it had been at the weekend, during the week doesnt suit with work etc. sticky night for it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on June 17, 2015, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year
why do they have it on a wednesday night? would a weekend not draw an even bigger crowd? would have done it myself if it had been at the weekend, during the week doesnt suit with work etc. sticky night for it!

Don't know why they have it on a Wednesday but its very well supported with top runners in both distances (blue ribbon event), 43 minutes forme tonight, hard to gauge it if truth be told, got bit lazy around the 3 mile mark and needed to have a crap for last 2 miles! at one point I thought I was going to have to hit the bushes... Very windy two... Can't complain though have ran that distance only once this year , been sticking to 5 ks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on June 17, 2015, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year
why do they have it on a wednesday night? would a weekend not draw an even bigger crowd? would have done it myself if it had been at the weekend, during the week doesnt suit with work etc. sticky night for it!

Don't know why they have it on a Wednesday but its very well supported with top runners in both distances (blue ribbon event), 43 minutes forme tonight, hard to gauge it if truth be told, got bit lazy around the 3 mile mark and needed to have a crap for last 2 miles! at one point I thought I was going to have to hit the bushes... Very windy two... Can't complain though have ran that distance only once this year , been sticking to 5 ks

Any links to results? Reports that a lot didn't even make the start due to traffic delays. Haven't heard from any of the local ones who went down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on June 17, 2015, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: Bingo on June 17, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Pullhard,

that looks fine to me. I'd build up the Tempo and Interval/Hills running over the weeks and not go too hard on those first few weeks. They say that fatigue when running can take 2 weeks to appear, so while you could feel great initially, it would affect training further down the while. The same as they say fitness takes 2 weeks before it benefits.

You've a right base anyway from the Half done (great time), so ease into it after this and ensure you are fresh. Personally, I like a rest day after the long run day and go for a swim/sauna/Jacuzzi etc on this day, does be bliss  ;D

Good luck to anyone heading to Lisburn this evening. Good few from the club heading up to it but just too hard for me to get away during the week.

Here now in Lisburn, serious crowd here, unusually hot and sticky for this country/time of year
why do they have it on a wednesday night? would a weekend not draw an even bigger crowd? would have done it myself if it had been at the weekend, during the week doesnt suit with work etc. sticky night for it!

Don't know why they have it on a Wednesday but its very well supported with top runners in both distances (blue ribbon event), 43 minutes forme tonight, hard to gauge it if truth be told, got bit lazy around the 3 mile mark and needed to have a crap for last 2 miles! at one point I thought I was going to have to hit the bushes... Very windy two... Can't complain though have ran that distance only once this year , been sticking to 5 ks

Any links to results? Reports that a lot didn't even make the start due to traffic delays. Haven't heard from any of the local ones who went down.

Traffic was pretty bad...  Haven't seen results... I did notice lads running up after race started
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2015, 09:45:34 AM
Results are up on Championchip. Seems very big numbers doing both races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 18, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Couldn't go to Lisburn.

Two guys in work were running - one got stuck in traffic and had to dump the car and run a mile to the start.  Really upset his run (half marathon) as he didn't get time to do normal preps (including toilet).

The other guy doing the 10k was there in plenty of time, but one part of the website had said the 10k was starting at 7.10, so he didn't make his way down to the start til about 7.05 and there was no one there.  No announcements or anything that the 10k was about to begin.  Probably a little naïve on his part but it was his first 10k and he came away feeling like it was a total shambles.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Rois on June 18, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Couldn't go to Lisburn.

Two guys in work were running - one got stuck in traffic and had to dump the car and run a mile to the start.  Really upset his run (half marathon) as he didn't get time to do normal preps (including toilet).

The other guy doing the 10k was there in plenty of time, but one part of the website had said the 10k was starting at 7.10, so he didn't make his way down to the start til about 7.05 and there was no one there.  No announcements or anything that the 10k was about to begin.  Probably a little naïve on his part but it was his first 10k and he came away feeling like it was a total shambles.

It did start a few minutes early for sure, I was told 7.10 for the 10k and 6.30 for the half...... but was in Dublin so was up early enough and had time to stretch and do a we run before the start..... had toliet issues half way round but just pushed on!!! 

Traffic seemed really bad in all directions into Lisburn... 1700 odds ran the 10k I think but as a race it was pretty perfect some wind in parts and overcast but couldn't really complain... first few miles done in around 6.48m 6.50. 6.46m but then I tailed off pace for a bit until i checked watch and had to lift pace up again, zapps your energy when doing that so if I could be consistent pace wise I'd be able to knock off more seconds at the end
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
Lisburn's always really busy so you need to leave loads of time. It's not really a big enough place to facilitate about 4k people running plus spectators etc without a few issues.

Results are up. Good result for McDermott in the 10k to beat Hamilton and I'm sure those front runners are cursing Freddy Sittuk for not having went home yet lol. Especially as there would be decent prize money in this one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
Lisburn's always really busy so you need to leave loads of time. It's not really a big enough place to facilitate about 4k people running plus spectators etc without a few issues.

Results are up. Good result for McDermott in the 10k to beat Hamilton and I'm sure those front runners are cursing Freddy Sittuk for not having went home yet lol. Especially as there would be decent prize money in this one.

31 minutes is fecking silly times at this level surely?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 11:05:48 AM
Hamilton is one of the top guys about and McDermott is starting to come good as well - Irish u23 international at XC.

There are a few guys about who would give them a run for their money too.

There's a decent pay cheque out of Lisburn if you're in the top few!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 18, 2015, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
Lisburn's always really busy so you need to leave loads of time. It's not really a big enough place to facilitate about 4k people running plus spectators etc without a few issues.

Results are up. Good result for McDermott in the 10k to beat Hamilton and I'm sure those front runners are cursing Freddy Sittuk for not having went home yet lol. Especially as there would be decent prize money in this one.

31 minutes is fecking silly times at this level surely?
It's fairly hot alright, 31 minutes would put you in the top 20-30 in Ireland depending on who turns up I'd reckon.
Freddy is some man, fair play to him. He'll prob do the Achill half in a few weeks...he's won it the last 2 years.

Not a fan of different distances within the same race....leads to problems with stewarding,people going wrong and missing the start, which Rois said happened last night. Did a half in London in Feb with a 10km, and even though it was organised by a serious club...they got it arseways.
Should be a single distance and that's it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
Going on early reports, it seems the numbers are just too big for a midweek race with 3 distances - a lot locals and youngers runs there for a short fun run.

Water ran out at last water station on half course, 10km started early, massive parking issues and getting into Lisburn off motorway.

Then the usual issues - half runners weaving through 10km, run of out medals and food at end as well.

Hopefully they can address these, as it seems to be a great event and attracts a great range of runners.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
I think it's one of those races where they lift loads of money and aren't too bothered Bingo just like belfast marathon...

They do seem to change the half course year to year though to be fair.

Last time I did I found weaving through the back of the half field a real pain in the arse particularly when some of them would stop dead in front of you with no consideration.

Hamilton has a sub 30 on the track.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 11:41:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 11:05:48 AM
Hamilton is one of the top guys about and McDermott is starting to come good as well - Irish u23 international at XC.

There are a few guys about who would give them a run for their money too.

There's a decent pay cheque out of Lisburn if you're in the top few!

I stayed with them till the claxton went off and they went on ahead so I didn't push myself as I wasn't going to get a place!! Plenty bananas at the end and water... but I left course after the the 10k race so could have been no food left.... oh and another thing is was about 300 yards further I think so I would have dipped into 42 mins... must check my Garmin and see
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2015, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
I think it's one of those races where they lift loads of money and aren't too bothered Bingo just like belfast marathon...

They do seem to change the half course year to year though to be fair.

Last time I did I found weaving through the back of the half field a real pain in the arse particularly when some of them would stop dead in front of you with no consideration.

Hamilton has a sub 30 on the track.

Very true Imtommygunn, a few I talked to compared it Omagh and said there is no comparison in terms of how Omagh push the boat out at the finish and along the course. Having done Omagh, I'd agree with this, excellent race run by a running club (even if I didn't enjoy the actual run that day but that was just me having a slugfest round it).

Hamilton is running really well this year. He didn't seem to race much last year? The previous December 2013, he won our 5km at his ease and I was looking out for him last year but didn't see him feature much. Was he injured or not racing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
I think you make a key point there about the run by running club thing. Lisburn is run by a council and is ultimately a money making venture. It is a good event but running clubs generally have a finer attention to knowing,and caring, what it takes to having make a good event.

I think Hamilton was injured last year. I think he has moved down to newry as I see him advertising his business there so he'd be more likely to be running his races round border territory these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 18, 2015, 12:12:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
I think you make a key point there about the run by running club thing. Lisburn is run by a council and is ultimately a money making venture. It is a good event but running clubs generally have a finer attention to knowing,and caring, what it takes to having make a good event.

I think Hamilton was injured last year. I think he has moved down to newry as I see him advertising his business there so he'd be more likely to be running his races round border territory these days.

Yeah that's very true, can be the finer points that people take away with them. I know our lads 10miler is coming up and a big effort is put into the after race actviities - showers, medal, finish line photos, massage, music and "the spread"!

This year is our 5th year doing the 5km in December and we hoping to invite the previous winners back - Daragh Rennicks (was in US on scholarship), Daragh Greene, Paddy Hamilton and Conor Duffy. Be a great race between them 5 if its possible. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on June 18, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Didn't do Lisburn this year - too busy at work. Heard a few horror stories re. Parking and water there today. Was also told that it was a really flat course!

Mo Farrah stories not looking good today. Hard not to feel suspicious!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2015, 04:42:34 PM
Doing the Docklands run this evening.

Not optimistic of a good time but hoping to break 25 mins for the first time this year, maybe.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 18, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 18, 2015, 04:42:34 PM
Doing the Docklands run this evening.

Not optimistic of a good time but hoping to break 25 mins for the first time this year, maybe.

Nice evening for it - should be a good one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 05:55:14 PM
Quote from: CD on June 18, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Didn't do Lisburn this year - too busy at work. Heard a few horror stories re. Parking and water there today. Was also told that it was a really flat course!

Mo Farrah stories not looking good today. Hard not to feel suspicious!

Salazar wrote a paper years ago about how to beat the africans. It entailed performance enhancements. Can't for the life of me find it now but i mind it well. Looks ominous for him.

Also shows you the way the world has went when these guys now have to prove themselves innocent.

The top end stuff can be hard to take seriously. The 100 metres is a farce now. Sounds more like the tour de france scenario every day where they were all at it.

Good luck muppet. Just pretend the guy in front of you said coc i s rubbish ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2015, 05:55:14 PM
Quote from: CD on June 18, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Didn't do Lisburn this year - too busy at work. Heard a few horror stories re. Parking and water there today. Was also told that it was a really flat course!

Mo Farrah stories not looking good today. Hard not to feel suspicious!

Salazar wrote a paper years ago about how to beat the africans. It entailed performance enhancements. Can't for the life of me find it now but i mind it well. Looks ominous for him.

Also shows you the way the world has went when these guys now have to prove themselves innocent.

The top end stuff can be hard to take seriously. The 100 metres is a farce now. Sounds more like the tour de france scenario every day where they were all at it.

Good luck muppet. Just pretend the guy in front of you said coc i s rubbish ;D

If that happens I'll be the first fella black carded in 5k!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: CD on June 18, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Didn't do Lisburn this year - too busy at work. Heard a few horror stories re. Parking and water there today. Was also told that it was a really flat course!

Mo Farrah stories not looking good today. Hard not to feel suspicious!

Two hills, one at the start and one at the end... The rest was grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
Under 24:20 reasonably happy.

My mate from Ballaghy (Mayo supporter though 😀) beat me though the bollix.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2015, 10:02:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 18, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
Under 24:20 reasonably happy.

My mate from Ballaghy (Mayo supporter though 😀) beat me though the bollix.
Good man. Nice evening for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
Anyone doing the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 23, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 22, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
Anyone doing the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday?

I thought about it when I saw this, but entries are closed since the 12th June!

I was planning on maybe a park run next Saturday, but if there was an entry going I might be able to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 23, 2015, 01:13:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 23, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 22, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
Anyone doing the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday?

I thought about it when I saw this, but entries are closed since the 12th June!

I was planning on maybe a park run next Saturday, but if there was an entry going I might be able to go.

Was hoping for same myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 23, 2015, 01:55:41 PM
Every target race I've set this year has seemed to be missed for one reason or other, be it injury/illness or other events.

Thought I'd have a half and a few 10k's under the belt at this stage.

None the less, good amount of running under the belt and got 35miles in last week with a 13m run on Sunday.

Great out in that weather early morning or late evening but you can feel the effort levels increasing in the heat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 23, 2015, 02:16:28 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 23, 2015, 01:13:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 23, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 22, 2015, 11:18:26 PM
Anyone doing the Irish Runner 5 mile on Saturday?

I thought about it when I saw this, but entries are closed since the 12th June!

I was planning on maybe a park run next Saturday, but if there was an entry going I might be able to go.

Was hoping for same myself

I hope to do the Clontarf 1/2 marathon on the 4th July.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
No1, I see details are out for this years Strangford 10k - it was the last organised run I made, missed 1 because of injury and another because of football, parkrun a couple of weeks ago is the only group run I have done since last August, will give this a rattle again this year I'd say, hopefully get the 45min this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
No1, I see details are out for this years Strangford 10k - it was the last organised run I made, missed 1 because of injury and another because of football, parkrun a couple of weeks ago is the only group run I have done since last August, will give this a rattle again this year I'd say, hopefully get the 45min this year.

Have you done the Sea to Sky race in Newcastle before? Its on the friday the 17th 10k trail and road race?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
had looked at it alright - you for doing it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on June 23, 2015, 04:10:41 PM
I've got an idea in my head about combining running and a holiday, just wanting to see if its a go-er because presenting it to HQ.

So next year I was thinking about signing up to a marathon somewhere nice Seville, Bilbao, Rome (Ideally I'd like to do smaller races and entry not to cost an arm and leg.) adding a few days each side and making into a family holiday. Has anyone done anything similar? how it go down with the family?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on June 23, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
I like the sound of that idea pullhard.
I'd say Rome would be lovely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
had looked at it alright - you for doing it?

Yeah but it would be as tough heading up as it would be heading down!!


doing a race this Sunday, friend of mine has been battling with 2 types of cancer and hasn't beat it yet, on top of that he's also caught and fighting a new disease in his lungs. He needs to go to London to be treated as early as possible. This new procedure is a revolutionary form of laser treatment which is very effective but not yet available on the NHS.

hope this event will help raise £10,000 to send Paul to London for surgery because it is not treatable by conventional means. up to 400 doing so far at Heron's Nest, Delamont Country Park for a 10 am start... 5 and 10k runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 23, 2015, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
No1, I see details are out for this years Strangford 10k - it was the last organised run I made, missed 1 because of injury and another because of football, parkrun a couple of weeks ago is the only group run I have done since last August, will give this a rattle again this year I'd say, hopefully get the 45min this year.

Yeah we are running it again this year, totally new route as The National Trust wouldn't play ball. New route goes right past your in laws front door! I'll post up the online entry link when Athletics NI correct the details I provided them with! Aiming to go bigger and better this year so any suggested improvements would be most welcome.

MR, that's super numbers for the Delamont race. Hope it's a great success, super spot for a race and very worthy cause. Unfortunately I have a prior engagement.

Anyone for the Loughinisland 5 miler tomorrow night? Haven't done it in years but from what I remember it's hilly as f**k!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on June 24, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
had looked at it alright - you for doing it?

Yeah but it would be as tough heading up as it would be heading down!!


doing a race this Sunday, friend of mine has been battling with 2 types of cancer and hasn't beat it yet, on top of that he's also caught and fighting a new disease in his lungs. He needs to go to London to be treated as early as possible. This new procedure is a revolutionary form of laser treatment which is very effective but not yet available on the NHS.

hope this event will help raise £10,000 to send Paul to London for surgery because it is not treatable by conventional means. up to 400 doing so far at Heron's Nest, Delamont Country Park for a 10 am start... 5 and 10k runs

Seen the flyer for the race for Paul (I think) in Delamont alright - unfortunately we have a game Sumday so couldn't do it, hope it goes well!

Quote from: No1 on June 23, 2015, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 23, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
No1, I see details are out for this years Strangford 10k - it was the last organised run I made, missed 1 because of injury and another because of football, parkrun a couple of weeks ago is the only group run I have done since last August, will give this a rattle again this year I'd say, hopefully get the 45min this year.

Yeah we are running it again this year, totally new route as The National Trust wouldn't play ball. New route goes right past your in laws front door! I'll post up the online entry link when Athletics NI correct the details I provided them with! Aiming to go bigger and better this year so any suggested improvements would be most welcome.

MR, that's super numbers for the Delamont race. Hope it's a great success, super spot for a race and very worthy cause. Unfortunately I have a prior engagement.

Anyone for the Loughinisland 5 miler tomorrow night? Haven't done it in years but from what I remember it's hilly as f**k!!

Top of Blackcauseway and over to Shore Road? I thought it went well last year and to be honest it will probably be easier to marshal on the roads with less needed I would have thought
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 24, 2015, 11:43:23 PM
Right at the top of Blackcauseway, past Cargagh chapel, out at Ballyculter, down the Doctor's Hill and finish at The Quay.  Wee buns!! Tested the other way but it was half a mile too long. I'll post the details up ASAP.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
Irish Runner 5 mile today, great event as always. Over 4000 runners I heard.
New PB by about 2mins for me so happy with that.
Them hills in the second half of the race are brutal though!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 27, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
Irish Runner 5 mile today, great event as always. Over 4000 runners I heard.
New PB by about 2mins for me so happy with that.
Them hills in the second half of the race are brutal though!

Good man Laoislad, it was warm this morning.

Just did a parkrun and while it was a poor time, I enjoyed it and was happy enough. I've had a very good week in terms of miles run so I am pleased with my progress towards next week which is...... Clontarf 1/2 and I won't beat my time from last November but I still hope to be around the 2 hour mark.

Going ok at the moment.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 27, 2015, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 27, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
Irish Runner 5 mile today, great event as always. Over 4000 runners I heard.
New PB by about 2mins for me so happy with that.
Them hills in the second half of the race are brutal though!

Good man Laoislad, it was warm this morning.

Just did a parkrun and while it was a poor time, I enjoyed it and was happy enough. I've had a very good week in terms of miles run so I am pleased with my progress towards next week which is...... Clontarf 1/2 and I won't beat my time from last November but I still hope to be around the 2 hour mark.

Going ok at the moment.

Well done lads and especially LL on the PB. Had my home 10k this evening (finish line is about 30 metres from my parents house) and ran a PB myself so pretty chuffed. It was my first race of the year but training has been going ok. We had pacers in it and they are just invaluable. Fell away from the pacer group with 2.5k to go as my stomach had a go at me (objected to the duress I was putting myself under!!!) but quickly got going again and ground out the last bit, just kept the pacer in view. Muggy conditions were not optimal so confident I can go quicker some time soon. On a serious high! My times is nothing special but it's special to me. The good days with this running craic are bloody great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 10:41:09 PM
Well done on PB and I also find the pacers great seanie. There wasn't any today and I ran with my watch set only to distance so didn't know how fast/slow I was going.
First mile was 2 minutes faster than last mile but I put that down to the final hill which is a killer.
You're so right though seanie the good days with the running are fantastic. Felt great today when I crossed the line even though my stomach also attempted to hamper my progress with a mile to go!

Best of luck with 1/2 muppet. I plan on doing the November leg of the Clontarf half.
Doing the 10mile and 1/2 of the Dublin race series first in August and September.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 27, 2015, 10:53:29 PM
Fionnuala Britton's sister ran the race and plenty of pretty good runners there too. It's a pretty fast course though for a mere mortal like myself a succession of short sharp hills over the second half of the course rally test you. I'm sue the elite folks just blast through them. Winner ran 32 odd which is just insane in my eyes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 27, 2015, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 10:41:09 PM
Well done on PB and I also find the pacers great seanie. There wasn't any today and I ran with my watch set only to distance so didn't know how fast/slow I was going.
First mile was 2 minutes faster than last mile but I put that down to the final hill which is a killer.
You're so right thought seanie the good days with the running are fantastic. Felt great today when I crossed the line even though my stomach also attempted to hamper my progress with a mile to go!

Best of luck with 1/2 muppet. I plan on doing the November leg of the Clontarf half.
Doing the 10mile and 1/2 of the Dublin race series first in August and September.

Congrats to both of you not he PBs. Very rewarding feeling that, one that I haven't felt for 7 months, but it will come back.

I can't make two of those marathon series runs, one due to a small dispute with Seanie & co in the Connacht Final on the 19th, and the other I am working for.

Clontarf is slightly chaotic (which was no harm to me) at the start as the roads aren't closed, but it is good fun and very, very flat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2015, 11:13:14 PM
Actually meant to post this a few weeks ago but forgot.
A lot of you were very generous in sponsoring me for the Dublin Marathon last year.
As you know I was raising money for a new centre that was being built in Sandyford for kids with Down Syndrome.
Anyway the centre is now up and running and we are finding it a great resource for my little fella.

This is a little video they made explaining what is all about.
If you have a few mins give it a watch and see how your sponsorship money helped with getting this centre up and running.

  http://youtu.be/wjPIiGEHs_o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 27, 2015, 11:29:34 PM
Class vid LL. Fair play lads on the PBs...quality, that's what it's all about. Keep enjoying it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 27, 2015, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 27, 2015, 11:29:34 PM
Class vid LL. Fair play lads on the PBs...quality, that's what it's all about. Keep enjoying it.

Nice one LL, your first post on this issue was probably the standout post in the history of this board.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
Fantastic moring for the Race for Paul at Delamont park, great spot for a race and the views were brill.. fairly testing course with the winding trails and hilly climbs, very well supported and for a great cause.... love running with my daughter she finished in 28 minutes, only 11 years old and I think she has the bug
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on June 28, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
QuoteOn a serious high! My times is nothing special but it's special to me
Fair play seanie that's the spirit and what makes running so great.
Well done to everyone getting PBs this weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 01, 2015, 03:12:33 PM
Thanks for the good wishes all. That race was a boost I needed and I probably needed "a race" as well. Went out today at lunchtime and did a tempo run and was absolutely hopping off the ground. Still buzzing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 01, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Saw this advertised http://wildatlanticrun.com/ (http://wildatlanticrun.com/)

Looks pretty cool. There is a 10 miler on a similar route that I meant to do last year and didn't. My main target for the year is the Warriors Run on August 22nd (15k involving up and down Knocknarea). Do you think I'd manage a half marathon 3 weeks later? Bear in mind I've never done one before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 01, 2015, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 01, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Saw this advertised http://wildatlanticrun.com/ (http://wildatlanticrun.com/)

Looks pretty cool. There is a 10 miler on a similar route that I meant to do last year and didn't. My main target for the year is the Warriors Run on August 22nd (15k involving up and down Knocknarea). Do you think I'd manage a half marathon 3 weeks later? Bear in mind I've never done one before.

If I was looking to push on (and your recent PB and run would suggest you can, well done on that by the way), I'd target the half marathon with the Warriors Run as the tune up race as such. If you target the half, you can build up the mileage in the weekly long run, this will held the warrior run as well. This will then serve as a great last big hard session before the half.

3 weeks to then recover and get ready for it is loads.

The half won't be easy but would be great to push for it when you in shape for it. If you even only add one a mile per week on your long run, you'll be ready.

In my own experience going from run 10km to a half is the easier step to make of them all when down right i.e. settle into a fair pace and gradually build the mileage as you are well on the way with endurance and its not a very fast pace to build on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 01, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 01, 2015, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 01, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Saw this advertised http://wildatlanticrun.com/ (http://wildatlanticrun.com/)

Looks pretty cool. There is a 10 miler on a similar route that I meant to do last year and didn't. My main target for the year is the Warriors Run on August 22nd (15k involving up and down Knocknarea). Do you think I'd manage a half marathon 3 weeks later? Bear in mind I've never done one before.

If I was looking to push on (and your recent PB and run would suggest you can, well done on that by the way), I'd target the half marathon with the Warriors Run as the tune up race as such. If you target the half, you can build up the mileage in the weekly long run, this will held the warrior run as well. This will then serve as a great last big hard session before the half.

3 weeks to then recover and get ready for it is loads.

The half won't be easy but would be great to push for it when you in shape for it. If you even only add one a mile per week on your long run, you'll be ready.

In my own experience going from run 10km to a half is the easier step to make of them all when down right i.e. settle into a fair pace and gradually build the mileage as you are well on the way with endurance and its not a very fast pace to build on.
That half looks quality, would have love to have done it but i know for a fact I'm away that weekend.
I'd echo what Bingo said as using the warriors as prep for the half. Obviously give the warriors a right lash as it's your local race but know that no matter how you'll do in it....it'll bring you on for the half marathon. 3 weeks in loads, easy running for a week after warriors....train well for 10 days and then taper for 3-4 days before the half marathon.

I've a 10km....a half marathon and another 10km before the end of this month. That'll be me done with racing I'd say until Amsterdam marathon on October 18th. Need to knuckle down with training, hopefully get the toe on the line in one piece this time...going to target a sub 2.40....it's 6.06 per mile...it'll take a huge effort but willing to give it a shot. No sandbagging, aim high and see what happens.
Title: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: No1 on July 01, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
As promised here are the details for the Strangford Festival 10k which takes place Saturday 29th August.

It would be fantastic if some of you could make it.  Cash prizes, goody bag, technical t-shirt and a great spread afterwards. Sure why would you not?!

http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K (http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K)

On another note, big thanks to ballinaman for all his great advice and help. Back out running and started the training schedule for this years big race. I can't recommend the man highly enough!

Title: Re: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: No1 on July 01, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
As promised here are the details for the Strangford Festival 10k which takes place Saturday 29th August.

It would be fantastic if some of you could make it.  Cash prizes, goody bag, technical t-shirt and a great spread afterwards. Sure why would you not?!

http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K (http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K)

On another note, big thanks to ballinaman for all his great advice and help. Back out running and started the training schedule for this years big race. I can't recommend the man highly enough!

Would echo what you've said about ballinaman, always excellent advice on running but his knowledge on sports injuries is top notch.. Thanks again
Title: Re: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: magpie seanie on July 02, 2015, 10:56:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: No1 on July 01, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
As promised here are the details for the Strangford Festival 10k which takes place Saturday 29th August.

It would be fantastic if some of you could make it.  Cash prizes, goody bag, technical t-shirt and a great spread afterwards. Sure why would you not?!

http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K (http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Strangford-Festival-10K)

On another note, big thanks to ballinaman for all his great advice and help. Back out running and started the training schedule for this years big race. I can't recommend the man highly enough!

Would echo what you've said about ballinaman, always excellent advice on running but his knowledge on sports injuries is top notch.. Thanks again

I'd just like to add to that. The advice he has given me has really helped me kick on. He knows his stuff and is incredibly generous with sharing his knowledge. Thanks again Ballinaman. Thanks also to the other here who have also given me brilliant advice and support.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Castleblayney Park Run starting this Saturday at 9.30 at Lough Muckno. Great place to go running and will try and attend as often as possible. Will fit in well as recovery run of a Saturday morning in the run up to Berlin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Castleblayney Park Run starting this Saturday at 9.30 at Lough Muckno. Great place to go running and will try and attend as often as possible. Will fit in well as recovery run of a Saturday morning in the run up to Berlin.
A great job is doing a 10-13 miler before hand and then finish with the parkrun on top of it with marathon pace miles. Obviously, you need to time it right but can work well!
No hassle lads, give us a PM if ye ever need any advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Castleblayney Park Run starting this Saturday at 9.30 at Lough Muckno. Great place to go running and will try and attend as often as possible. Will fit in well as recovery run of a Saturday morning in the run up to Berlin.
A great job is doing a 10-13 miler before hand and then finish with the parkrun on top of it with marathon pace miles. Obviously, you need to time it right but can work well!
No hassle lads, give us a PM if ye ever need any advice.

I generally just do short runs on Saturday following P&D which has a medium long run Friday (which I can fit in early or late, flexibility works great) and long run early sunday with day off on the Monday (which suits great).

The woman does a circuit class early on Saturday morning so it helps keep everyone happy  ;D

Can see how that would fit into a programme though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Castleblayney Park Run starting this Saturday at 9.30 at Lough Muckno. Great place to go running and will try and attend as often as possible. Will fit in well as recovery run of a Saturday morning in the run up to Berlin.
A great job is doing a 10-13 miler before hand and then finish with the parkrun on top of it with marathon pace miles. Obviously, you need to time it right but can work well!
No hassle lads, give us a PM if ye ever need any advice.

I generally just do short runs on Saturday following P&D which has a medium long run Friday (which I can fit in early or late, flexibility works great) and long run early sunday with day off on the Monday (which suits great).

The woman does a circuit class early on Saturday morning so it helps keep everyone happy  ;D

Can see how that would fit into a programme though.
Solid. Sounds like you've got a good routine so. Have you started into a specific program for Berlin yet?
I'm looking at the Jack Daniels Running formula book....no, not that Jack Daniels..they other lad. Heard it's up there with P&D in terms of results.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 02, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 02, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Castleblayney Park Run starting this Saturday at 9.30 at Lough Muckno. Great place to go running and will try and attend as often as possible. Will fit in well as recovery run of a Saturday morning in the run up to Berlin.
A great job is doing a 10-13 miler before hand and then finish with the parkrun on top of it with marathon pace miles. Obviously, you need to time it right but can work well!
No hassle lads, give us a PM if ye ever need any advice.

I generally just do short runs on Saturday following P&D which has a medium long run Friday (which I can fit in early or late, flexibility works great) and long run early sunday with day off on the Monday (which suits great).

The woman does a circuit class early on Saturday morning so it helps keep everyone happy  ;D

Can see how that would fit into a programme though.
Solid. Sounds like you've got a good routine so. Have you started into a specific program for Berlin yet?
I'm looking at the Jack Daniels Running formula book....no, not that Jack Daniels..they other lad. Heard it's up there with P&D in terms of results.

Have heard of both Jack Daniels alright, I know which one i'd prefer. Have read a few things of the JD plan and its seems much more specific plan that is built for the runner by the runner based on the JDs guidelines and appears to be flexible in the weekly miles and when they are done. Anyone using it seem to prefer it V P&D as it provides more Marathon pace miles.
I would think it suits the higher end runners who are going for sickeningly impressive targets of say sub 2.40  ;)

I'm starting into the 12 week P&D plan on Monday (its a rest day  :) ). The plan builds up to 55miles from 35 miles per week and I followed it for Dublin 2013 and got the 3.21 off it. Last year I was hit and miss with it. I'm tweaking it this year as I've already got to 35miles per week each of the last 4 weeks, so in good nick on that front. Going to add in a few longer runs, it only has 2 20milers, so I plan to add more longer runs and also do more MP miles in other runs.

If you for Amsterdam, you'll likely be kicking into a plan now yourself?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2015, 11:32:19 PM
For the brave:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-mary-anderson-foundation-colour-marathon-tickets-17013133741?ref=estw
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
No I hadn't but had a look online about him and gave him the auld follow on twitter. Seems spot on, the training at goal pace looks to be a key aspect of his methods which I agree with fully. If you're looking to break 20 minutes for 5K you need to be aiming for mile repeats in or around 6.26, 400s in 1.36s and 800s in 3.12s. Need to train the body to be able to sustain the desired pace basically.
Ya, Hal Higdon is very good to start off with, safe way to progress but once you have a year or two experience you'd need more of a stimulus to progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 03, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 03, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
No I hadn't but had a look online about him and gave him the auld follow on twitter. Seems spot on, the training at goal pace looks to be a key aspect of his methods which I agree with fully. If you're looking to break 20 minutes for 5K you need to be aiming for mile repeats in or around 6.26, 400s in 1.36s and 800s in 3.12s. Need to train the body to be able to sustain the desired pace basically.
Ya, Hal Higdon is very good to start off with, safe way to progress but once you have a year or two experience you'd need more of a stimulus to progress.

I'll be happy to break 24mins first!!
Half Marathon plan is very good though and I can really feel myself getting a bit stronger with doing his sessions.
I suppose it's easier train when you actually start enjoying it. Higdon just has you logging mile after mile with no other type of training really to speak of.

The book is called Run Faster from the 5k to the Marathon by Brad Hudson if anyone is interested in doing it.I got it on Amazon for about 8 quid.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 03, 2015, 11:44:27 AM
Fair play LL, you'll reap the benefits.

Its amazing how many people will ask you "how can you just run every day, is it not boring". I would generally say that no run/day is ever the same and its a range of different disciplines.

Variety is the spice of life  :D (except when married, then its the devil)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 04, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Today was torture.

When I sat in the car afterwards I saw it was 23 degrees, so I don't feel to bad.

At lot of people were walking, particularly in the last 3 kms, which was indicative of the tough conditions. A fella I met before the race came up to me afterwards and told me he didn't finish as his friend collapsed on the beach and was out cold. They took him away in an ambulance. Hopefully it was nothing serious. His mate reckoned it was dehydration.

I took the good advice given here after the DCM last October and got up early and had an electrolyte. I had never even heard of an electrolyte, but I was very glad at the end today I took it.

Results not up yet but it was around 2 hrs 7 mins which is a long way off what I did in November. But I was very happy to finish without giving up. The thickness got me home. The last 3kms I wanted to  try to keep increasing the speed but it was torture today and I slowed badly, except of course the daft 10 metre 'sprint' at the end, in case anyone is looking, which they aren't.

Anyway, we will see how the recovery goes before any silly decisions are made.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 04, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
Fair play to you muppet and well done. The warmth is a pure killer but you used your head and got through it. That ould thickness is a great weapon. Got me going after the dry "hughie" last week.

Heading out for a long run with a friend today. Pretty hilly terrain in a woods near home but I don't know it all that well so will be great once this dude shows me the ropes. Need to push on myself now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 04, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
Fair play muppet. I was thinking of you this morning and how warm and muggy it was to be running a half marathon.
Main thing was to finish which you did.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 04, 2015, 05:04:19 PM
Well done muppet...torture on those conditions, we're not built for days like today in this part of the world. Fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 04, 2015, 07:20:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 04, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Today was torture.

When I sat in the car afterwards I saw it was 23 degrees, so I don't feel to bad.

At lot of people were walking, particularly in the last 3 kms, which was indicative of the tough conditions. A fella I met before the race came up to me afterwards and told me he didn't finish as his friend collapsed on the beach and was out cold. They took him away in an ambulance. Hopefully it was nothing serious. His mate reckoned it was dehydration.

I took the good advice given here after the DCM last October and got up early and had an electrolyte. I had never even heard of an electrolyte, but I was very glad at the end today I took it.

Results not up yet but it was around 2 hrs 7 mins which is a long way off what I did in November. But I was very happy to finish without giving up. The thickness got me home. The last 3kms I wanted to  try to keep increasing the speed but it was torture today and I slowed badly, except of course the daft 10 metre 'sprint' at the end, in case anyone is looking, which they aren't.

Anyway, we will see how the recovery goes before any silly decisions are made.

It was fair warm alright, but i have to say, the amount of water and bananas along the route was a credit to the organisers, fininshed in 2 hours bang on, really felt the last 2k, although we were lucky the wind was at our backs all the way round until the turn for home. A great event and well organised. A swim in the sea was after was almost worth the run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 04, 2015, 08:46:09 PM
Tough going today Muppet, fair play to get it done.

I good friend done it and was targeting a 1.26, as he done 1.28 in Lisburn a few weeks. It said heat and wind was brutal and he finished in 1.39, wasn't a day for heroics and he just battled round and didn't force it. Seems to be the story of the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 04, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
How was your first park run Bingo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 04, 2015, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 04, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
How was your first park run Bingo?

Enjoyed it. It's a testing run with a steady climb that you run twice. After that it's a flat run on trails, so not as fast as the road but decent. We had about 75 runners this morning, happy at that as was a wet morning and a lot only hearing about it now.

I was 6th home in 20.45. Had raced a 10km yesterday evening which was tight going on a hilly, hot and windy evening. Finished in 5th in that with a 41.12 time, which was quicker than planned and left legs heavy today.

The 15miler tomorrow will be very easy!  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 04, 2015, 10:51:16 PM
Good man Muppet well done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 05, 2015, 12:00:18 AM
Really suffered on my 12k jaunt this evening. Almost 9k of it is on trails and some bitchin hills. The guy who was showing me the route is a bit better than me and used to the terrain and I found it bloody tough. Great now that it's done but was not planning on as tough a run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2015, 08:23:00 AM
I see you got your parkrun bingo. Did you do it? Be good for the local area. I would guess tough enough course as i just had a look at the times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2015, 09:24:47 AM
In Newcastle for stag weekend.... Managed to 6 mile runs.... Lads are cracking up!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2015, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 04, 2015, 07:20:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 04, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Today was torture.

When I sat in the car afterwards I saw it was 23 degrees, so I don't feel to bad.

At lot of people were walking, particularly in the last 3 kms, which was indicative of the tough conditions. A fella I met before the race came up to me afterwards and told me he didn't finish as his friend collapsed on the beach and was out cold. They took him away in an ambulance. Hopefully it was nothing serious. His mate reckoned it was dehydration.

I took the good advice given here after the DCM last October and got up early and had an electrolyte. I had never even heard of an electrolyte, but I was very glad at the end today I took it.

Results not up yet but it was around 2 hrs 7 mins which is a long way off what I did in November. But I was very happy to finish without giving up. The thickness got me home. The last 3kms I wanted to  try to keep increasing the speed but it was torture today and I slowed badly, except of course the daft 10 metre 'sprint' at the end, in case anyone is looking, which they aren't.

Anyway, we will see how the recovery goes before any silly decisions are made.

It was fair warm alright, but i have to say, the amount of water and bananas along the route was a credit to the organisers, fininshed in 2 hours bang on, really felt the last 2k, although we were lucky the wind was at our backs all the way round until the turn for home. A great event and well organised. A swim in the sea was after was almost worth the run.

I didn't see bananas along the route. I am guessing you did Achill? I did Clontarf.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2015, 10:09:30 PM
Just checked my 5k splits.

27+, 28+, 29+, 33+. That tells the tale.  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
I guess you could call it a battle of Clontarf for you muppet..!


I'll get my coat..........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2015, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 05, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
I guess you could call it a battle of Clontarf for you muppet..!


I'll get my coat..........

There was free Erdinger afterwards, so it was the Bottle of Clontarf. (That is how my Clontarf mate pronounces it anyway :D)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 05, 2015, 08:23:00 AM
I see you got your parkrun bingo. Did you do it? Be good for the local area. I would guess tough enough course as i just had a look at the times.

I did alright. Went well for the first one. Had 78 runners which wasn't bad considering they have planned a "soft" launch of it for this month - triathlon on next weekend on the course and the AC's club 10miler on last weekend of July, so its only on 2 outa 4 weekends in July which the Parkrun people where happy with and give organisers a chance to get used to it.

It a two lap course and on each lap there is a steady, testing climb for about 400m or so. It takes its toll on the times. Apart from that its a decent run.

Come August/Sept it will be really popular I'd imagine and the amount of enquiries about it after Saturday from people suggests it will.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on July 07, 2015, 04:39:03 PM
Back from holidays and have started my routine proper now.
m - easy 5 miles
tu - intervals today was 3 * (6 on and 2 off) ran at around 6.40 pace
wed - off or maybe a spin class
th - hill reps 8/10 reps
fri easy 5 miles
sat - either going for a pb in parkrun or a hilly race in north wales
sun - off

todays run was hard, got a stitch and was able to power pass it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 03, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 03, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
No I hadn't but had a look online about him and gave him the auld follow on twitter. Seems spot on, the training at goal pace looks to be a key aspect of his methods which I agree with fully. If you're looking to break 20 minutes for 5K you need to be aiming for mile repeats in or around 6.26, 400s in 1.36s and 800s in 3.12s. Need to train the body to be able to sustain the desired pace basically.
Ya, Hal Higdon is very good to start off with, safe way to progress but once you have a year or two experience you'd need more of a stimulus to progress.

I'll be happy to break 24mins first!!

Half Marathon plan is very good though and I can really feel myself getting a bit stronger with doing his sessions.
I suppose it's easier train when you actually start enjoying it. Higdon just has you logging mile after mile with no other type of training really to speak of.

The book is called Run Faster from the 5k to the Marathon by Brad Hudson if anyone is interested in doing it.I got it on Amazon for about 8 quid.

Well not only did I beat it,I skipped over 23mins also!
Decided to give myself a time trial tonight to see if this training I'm doing is working or not. Came home in 22'56
Absolutely over the moon.
I know I'm gonna have to do it in a proper race for it to count but at least I know the training is working.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 07, 2015, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 07, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 03, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 03, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
No I hadn't but had a look online about him and gave him the auld follow on twitter. Seems spot on, the training at goal pace looks to be a key aspect of his methods which I agree with fully. If you're looking to break 20 minutes for 5K you need to be aiming for mile repeats in or around 6.26, 400s in 1.36s and 800s in 3.12s. Need to train the body to be able to sustain the desired pace basically.
Ya, Hal Higdon is very good to start off with, safe way to progress but once you have a year or two experience you'd need more of a stimulus to progress.

I'll be happy to break 24mins first!!

Half Marathon plan is very good though and I can really feel myself getting a bit stronger with doing his sessions.
I suppose it's easier train when you actually start enjoying it. Higdon just has you logging mile after mile with no other type of training really to speak of.

The book is called Run Faster from the 5k to the Marathon by Brad Hudson if anyone is interested in doing it.I got it on Amazon for about 8 quid.

Well not only did I beat it,I skipped over 23mins also!
Decided to give myself a time trial tonight to see if this training I'm doing is working or not. Came home in 22'56
Absolutely over the moon.
I know I'm gonna have to do it in a proper race for it too count but at least I know the training is working.
Class, fair play. Some difference to a couple of years ago, just shows what can be done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 08, 2015, 06:42:42 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 07, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 03, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 03, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 02, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
I've started a half marathon programme(for the Dublin HM in September)from a book by a fella called Brad Hudson.
Ever hear of him BM? Plenty of variety in the training which I'm loving.
Found the Hal Higdon I did for the marathon very boring but this has plenty of hill training and Fartlek type runs so it's keeping me interested.
No I hadn't but had a look online about him and gave him the auld follow on twitter. Seems spot on, the training at goal pace looks to be a key aspect of his methods which I agree with fully. If you're looking to break 20 minutes for 5K you need to be aiming for mile repeats in or around 6.26, 400s in 1.36s and 800s in 3.12s. Need to train the body to be able to sustain the desired pace basically.
Ya, Hal Higdon is very good to start off with, safe way to progress but once you have a year or two experience you'd need more of a stimulus to progress.

I'll be happy to break 24mins first!!

Half Marathon plan is very good though and I can really feel myself getting a bit stronger with doing his sessions.
I suppose it's easier train when you actually start enjoying it. Higdon just has you logging mile after mile with no other type of training really to speak of.

The book is called Run Faster from the 5k to the Marathon by Brad Hudson if anyone is interested in doing it.I got it on Amazon for about 8 quid.

Well not only did I beat it,I skipped over 23mins also!
Decided to give myself a time trial tonight to see if this training I'm doing is working or not. Came home in 22'56
Absolutely over the moon.
I know I'm gonna have to do it in a proper race for it to count but at least I know the training is working.

Wow well done. I am getting that book! And what watch were you using?  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 08, 2015, 08:20:53 AM
That's great running ll. Been frustrated with a cold and then sinusitis - haven't managed to get out for about three weeks.

Clearing up now so will go for a jog this afternoon and see how it goes
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 08, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Brilliant running LL, fair play to you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 08, 2015, 09:43:56 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 05, 2015, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 04, 2015, 07:20:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 04, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Today was torture.

When I sat in the car afterwards I saw it was 23 degrees, so I don't feel to bad.

At lot of people were walking, particularly in the last 3 kms, which was indicative of the tough conditions. A fella I met before the race came up to me afterwards and told me he didn't finish as his friend collapsed on the beach and was out cold. They took him away in an ambulance. Hopefully it was nothing serious. His mate reckoned it was dehydration.

I took the good advice given here after the DCM last October and got up early and had an electrolyte. I had never even heard of an electrolyte, but I was very glad at the end today I took it.

Results not up yet but it was around 2 hrs 7 mins which is a long way off what I did in November. But I was very happy to finish without giving up. The thickness got me home. The last 3kms I wanted to  try to keep increasing the speed but it was torture today and I slowed badly, except of course the daft 10 metre 'sprint' at the end, in case anyone is looking, which they aren't.

Anyway, we will see how the recovery goes before any silly decisions are made.

It was fair warm alright, but i have to say, the amount of water and bananas along the route was a credit to the organisers, fininshed in 2 hours bang on, really felt the last 2k, although we were lucky the wind was at our backs all the way round until the turn for home. A great event and well organised. A swim in the sea was after was almost worth the run.

I didn't see bananas along the route. I am guessing you did Achill? I did Clontarf.

It was Achill i did alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 09, 2015, 03:05:18 PM
Sonia breaks 2,000m WR 21 years ago today.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0709/629354-sonia-osullivan-breaks-2000m-world-record/ (http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0709/629354-sonia-osullivan-breaks-2000m-world-record/)

5 mins 25 for 2k ffs!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 09, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 09, 2015, 03:05:18 PM
Sonia breaks 2,000m WR 21 years ago today.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0709/629354-sonia-osullivan-breaks-2000m-world-record/ (http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0709/629354-sonia-osullivan-breaks-2000m-world-record/)

5 mins 25 for 2k ffs!

Absolutely awesome. We are lucky to have witnessed her. Poetry in motion watching her run there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 09, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
On a slower note - I've modified my lunchtime route to make it a 6k tempo. 1k warmup, 4k @ 5min/k and 1k warm down. My 5k PB is still 24:56 but it must be there for the taking as I covered that middle 4k in 20 mins flat today. Is that pace a little too quick for tempo or is it ok?

Getting my long run (including hills) at the weekend and one or two handy 5-7k's in as well. Wish I could get time to do more but 3 or 4 runs a week is the most I can get in.

Have a bit of an annoying stiffness in my hips after long runs and it can last a while. Any good stretches for that? I never felt it last year but I get it a lot this year. New runners maybe? It's not "sore" but I know about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 12, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
Did that same 12k run today on my own. Started off slowly and was feeling strong at the end, much better. Probably even a bit quick today (6:17/km) but just got into a rhythm and went with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 13, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
Another decent week in the bag. 35miles in total. Long run yesterday was 13miles with 8 at MP, so started with 3 easy 8min miles and then done 8 round 7.15 mile pace and finished with 3 easy.

Happy to get that in the bag. Raced a 5km on Saturday as part of the local Triathlon. Pushed out hard in this as tried to catch the brother who was doing the bike and run leg and he had just under 2min of a start on me on the run leg. Caught sight of him in last part of the run but couldn't get him. My time for the run was 17.08 but its short of the 5km (hard to get a proper distance from GPS as its round a forest), done it in 17.35m last year, so happy with improvement.

Another step up in miles this week and going to be a tight week to juggle it all in, outside of that looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 13, 2015, 11:00:36 AM
Quote from: Bingo on July 13, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
Another decent week in the bag. 35miles in total. Long run yesterday was 13miles with 8 at MP, so started with 3 easy 8min miles and then done 8 round 7.15 mile pace and finished with 3 easy.

Happy to get that in the bag. Raced a 5km on Saturday as part of the local Triathlon. Pushed out hard in this as tried to catch the brother who was doing the bike and run leg and he had just under 2min of a start on me on the run leg. Caught sight of him in last part of the run but couldn't get him. My time for the run was 17.08 but its short of the 5km (hard to get a proper distance from GPS as its round a forest), done it in 17.35m last year, so happy with improvement.

Another step up in miles this week and going to be a tight week to juggle it all in, outside of that looking forward to it.
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that's brilliant running Bingo! 17.08 on trails is tough going! I've had a full month of nothing! Completely out of motivation for the first time in 2 years. Ran a 5k PB 5 weeks ago and didn't go again until this morning. Going to attempt a run every morning this week to get me back on the horse!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Would that be on the sole of the foot or towards the back of your heel? Slightly different management required. I'd look at the potential causative factors rather than just putting in padding, better to stop the source. Padding to relieve pain in short term but not really a long term solution.

Going well Bingo, keep her lit.

Personally if it's not me arse, it's me elbow at the moment. Ran a 10k last week with not feeling well for the few days before. 17 seconds off the PB so was suprised but it was a war, felt shite from 2km onwards.
Tendons across on the ball of the foot are sore since though....will have to cool the jets for a few days. Problem is that I've said I'd run anchor leg of a half iron man triathalon this weekend......don't want to let the other 2 lads down but don't think the paw would be up to 13.1, it probably would but would be up shit creek for weeks after.  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on July 13, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Would that be on the sole of the foot or towards the back of your heel? Slightly different management required. I'd look at the potential causative factors rather than just putting in padding, better to stop the source. Padding to relieve pain in short term but not really a long term solution.

Its towards my heel. bit of a pain was due to be running today, put it off and done 20k on a spin bike instead. Didn't feel bad or great, dull ache
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
Quote from: pullhard on July 13, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Would that be on the sole of the foot or towards the back of your heel? Slightly different management required. I'd look at the potential causative factors rather than just putting in padding, better to stop the source. Padding to relieve pain in short term but not really a long term solution.

Its towards my heel. bit of a pain was due to be running today, put it off and done 20k on a spin bike instead. Didn't feel bad or great, dull ache
Sounds Achilles related so...either insertional or bursae (little fluid cushion) is irritated. Loads of calf stretching...no drops off a step though, just normal calf stretching on the flat...
Comfortable shoes/runners as much as you can..formal work shoes often have hard back that can irritate the heel as well when it's flared.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Anyone here do the belfast "half" at the weekend?

There's been a hell of a storm brewing on media / social media since!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2015, 04:41:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 14, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Anyone here do the belfast "half" at the weekend?

There's been a hell of a storm brewing on media / social media since!

Seems the water stations were short on water and only one medical (St John's ) centre set up.. Was talked about on the news last night
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 14, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 14, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Anyone here do the belfast "half" at the weekend?

There's been a hell of a storm brewing on media / social media since!

3 from the club went down, including one doing their first half. They raging over it. Not even water on the course, luckily one of them had a water belt and took it and they got round using it. Said it was a farce from the outset with delays to the start.

Think the organisers have form for the this and have ben outed on facebook at least - Endurance junkies or something, a husband and wife team who organise events and then just disappear after them deleting their email addresses, event pages etc.

The Rock and roll half marathon in Dublin have offered half price entry to anyone who done this as a goodwill gesture from proper event organisers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2015, 04:47:38 PM
I saw that by the rock and roll guys - nice gesture.

Yeah they have form - did an event on the first of january in belfast too and apparently it wasn't too hot.

They seem a bit dubious to say the least - taking .co.uk addresses etc of big events to try and utilise the name to their advantage. Also they make lots of promises they don't deliver on.

They lifted over 20k at the weekend for that race. Lot of very unhappy so doubt they'll be running any big races for a while now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 14, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
Yeah was reading a bit on it. That website thing and even the name (linking it to the Titantic 10k as well) suggest they on the take.

Seems its been uncovered that they behind a played colour run in Belfast in August as well, so they could be getting a nice reception at that if it goes ahead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2015, 04:58:09 PM
I'd say it'd be best for those people if they keep their heads down for a while. Seems to have caused a bit of outrage.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 14, 2015, 05:11:03 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-33524224 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-33524224)

It was sabotaged he says  ;D Someone went to a lot of trouble to remove half a mile from the route  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2015, 07:33:01 PM
Bad craic for the runners, but a great money scheme all the same....


Just back from a hilly 4 mile run, fecked!! 29 mins think I've reached my plateau
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on July 15, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Thinking of joining the club so to speak. Could anyone recommend a good running shoe to me?
I can't see me running anything over 10km in the next year or so anyway if that makes a difference to the type of shoe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 15, 2015, 02:57:07 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on July 15, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Thinking of joining the club so to speak. Could anyone recommend a good running shoe to me?
I can't see me running anything over 10km in the next year or so anyway if that makes a difference to the type of shoe.
Go into a sports shop. Try on a rake of shoes and run up and down the shop and see what's most comfortable in your price range. That simple and as much science behind it than other methods. Just go with what you feel comfortable with....not with what the shop assistant thinks you need....stability-motion control-neutral- ect have little bearing in reality. Shop assistants are reading from a script majority of the time.

Step rate and step length, ankle mobility ect have more important role in running economy than the shoe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 16, 2015, 12:28:34 PM
Novice Advice:

Go at your own pace and own distance at first, gradually build up your distance. People tend to start by comparing themselves to John down the road and reckon they should be able to do what he does, can be big mistake. Do your own thing and enjoy it.

Target a local 5km race and build towards it. A target will give you focus and something to aim for.

Start the habit of drinking more and more water, if you don't already. It will mean you won't need to take it onboard during runs and it will help recover quickly. Sip at water all day rather than gulp a glass down every hour. You'll notice the difference in many ways.

Longer term, if you can get involved with a running group, you'll have company and likely someone at similar level to push each other along. And it gives it a great social element for travelling to runs and getting direct help/advice/encouragement.

Bound to be more but that's what I'd point too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 16, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
I'd still class myself as a novice.
Just enjoy it is good advice and take it handy at the start. Build yourself up slowly as Bingo said, it will be better for you in the longterm.
A good way to start is the c25k program. I can't recommend it highly enough.
It got me into it and a few others on this thread also.

I'd do the c25k then target a 5k at the end of it like a park run or something.
Then just go from there..10k half and if you're interested a full Marathon. Might seem impossible right now but if I can anyone can.

Don't be too bothered about anyone else's times also. There will always be someone faster so I like to be competitive with myself rather than worry about anyone else.
This thread is great for that. Everyone is genuinely delighted when someone gets a PB they have be working hard for.
Don't be afraid to ask questions on here either, you'll always find someone to help.
Once you have he running bug there is no going back!
My only regret is I didn't start running till I was 34 I wish I had started 10 years earlier.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2015, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 16, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
I'd still class myself as a novice.
Just enjoy it is good advice and take it handy at the start. Build yourself up slowly as Bingo said, it will be better for you in the longterm.
A good way to start is the c25k program. I can't recommend it highly enough.
It got me into it and a few others on this thread also.

I'd do the c25k then target a 5k at the end of it like a park run or something.
Then just go from there..10k half and if you're interested a full Marathon. Might seem impossible right now but if I can anyone can.

Don't be too bothered about anyone else's times also. There will always be someone faster so I like to be competitive with myself rather than worry about anyone else.
This thread is great for that. Everyone is genuinely delighted when someone gets a PB they have be working hard for.
Don't be afraid to ask questions on here either, you'll always find someone to help.
Once you have he running bug there is no going back!
My only regret is I didn't start running till I was 34 I wish I had started 10 years earlier.
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If you'd have started 10 years earlier ya could be injury hit now, sensible (well meant to be) now as your older and taking on advice rather than going gung ho has made you a better runner possibly

Anyone doing sea to sky on Friday night? was going to but have reneged !! refereeing instead but a lot of friends doing it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
The key thing is you do it for enjoyment. A lot of people who start of do every session where they're busted by the end of it and this takes the enjoyment out of it. I think this is the wrong way to do it - take your runs slowly and build up your distances for a bit of time at the start to get the fitness up. Then start doing a bit of speed once you're fitter but not every run - every 2nd or 3rd one.

Something like a parkrun is a good thing to do every few weeks as having that time and that time to beat are good things for motivation. If parkruns aren't feasible then the odd race but either are really good for the motivation. Best thing about running races etc is that it's you against yourself primarily. Get your time and then aim to beat it - then it's about you and no-one else.

Once you run a few you will probably build up a rivalry with a few people which can only be good. Running rivalries tend to be friendly too!

Once you get the fitness up a bit it would help to have company for the long runs but get it there first.

What part of Derry are you in? Plenty of clubs about. Loads in the city and now a good few springing up in south derry too.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on July 16, 2015, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
Quote from: pullhard on July 13, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Would that be on the sole of the foot or towards the back of your heel? Slightly different management required. I'd look at the potential causative factors rather than just putting in padding, better to stop the source. Padding to relieve pain in short term but not really a long term solution.

Its towards my heel. bit of a pain was due to be running today, put it off and done 20k on a spin bike instead. Didn't feel bad or great, dull ache
Sounds Achilles related so...either insertional or bursae (little fluid cushion) is irritated. Loads of calf stretching...no drops off a step though, just normal calf stretching on the flat...
Comfortable shoes/runners as much as you can..formal work shoes often have hard back that can irritate the heel as well when it's flared.

Still no sign of improvement, stretching and Ibuprofen not working there magic just yet
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 17, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
You gotta love Ireland for running:

Wednesday evening run - lovely bright balmy evening to run in. Soaked in sweat but great temp to run in and very enjoyable. Land home from run and sit out back with a drink and relax with a nice stretch.
Thursday evening run - waiting for as long as possible for the lashing wind and rain to stop. Bite the bullet and head out in it, wind blowing a gale, driving rain, floods on roads, dark, muck and all sorts. Just soaked. Land home, strip at the door, load the washing machine, brush down the runners and dive into a hot shower.

Enjoyed both all the same though. Character building is the phrase they use I think!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on July 17, 2015, 11:58:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2015, 02:07:23 PM
The key thing is you do it for enjoyment. A lot of people who start of do every session where they're busted by the end of it and this takes the enjoyment out of it. I think this is the wrong way to do it - take your runs slowly and build up your distances for a bit of time at the start to get the fitness up. Then start doing a bit of speed once you're fitter but not every run - every 2nd or 3rd one.

Something like a parkrun is a good thing to do every few weeks as having that time and that time to beat are good things for motivation. If parkruns aren't feasible then the odd race but either are really good for the motivation. Best thing about running races etc is that it's you against yourself primarily. Get your time and then aim to beat it - then it's about you and no-one else.

Once you run a few you will probably build up a rivalry with a few people which can only be good. Running rivalries tend to be friendly too!

Once you get the fitness up a bit it would help to have company for the long runs but get it there first.

What part of Derry are you in? Plenty of clubs about. Loads in the city and now a good few springing up in south derry too.
Just outside Dungiven. There honestly isn't a running club I know of nearby, would have to be Derry City, Limavady or South Derry. I'm not too bothered about joining a club though, not yet anyway.

I am going to try to do a few Park Runs firstly after a few weeks getting the fitness up. Looking at the Park Run options the closest seem to be Derry City, Limavady, Portrush and Cookstown. Has anyone tried any of these? The Portrush one seems to be run on sand which is something different.

Thanks for all the advice on here, must try to drink a bit more water throughout the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 17, 2015, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 16, 2015, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
Quote from: pullhard on July 13, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2015, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: pullhard on July 11, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
Have started getting a dull ache in one of my heels. Can since run fine but its a bit annoying, feels like it could do with some padding. any ideas?
Would that be on the sole of the foot or towards the back of your heel? Slightly different management required. I'd look at the potential causative factors rather than just putting in padding, better to stop the source. Padding to relieve pain in short term but not really a long term solution.

Its towards my heel. bit of a pain was due to be running today, put it off and done 20k on a spin bike instead. Didn't feel bad or great, dull ache
Sounds Achilles related so...either insertional or bursae (little fluid cushion) is irritated. Loads of calf stretching...no drops off a step though, just normal calf stretching on the flat...
Comfortable shoes/runners as much as you can..formal work shoes often have hard back that can irritate the heel as well when it's flared.

Still no sign of improvement, stretching and Ibuprofen not working there magic just yet
I'd steer clear of Ibuprofen if you can.....anti-inflammatory medication is only really useful for chronic long term inflammation. Inflammation in the short term is part of the natural healing process and by taking anti inflams can disrupt it and either cause healing rate to be slower or a weaker repair.
Paracetamol or intermittent 10 mins on/off ice for pain I'd recommend in short term.
It will take time to calm down, tendons have a small blood supply can take time and be notoriously temperamental.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on July 17, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
Long time cardio avoider who only does a few conditioning classes like circuits a few times a week, no endurance training done really in the last 10 years since I stopped playing. Have just finished week 1 of couch to 5k with no real difficulty and am targeting a September park run to finish it off. What would be a good target to set for an absolute beginner? Sub 30?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 18, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
Where is the best/cheapest place to get decent runners around Dublin?

Current Asics are ready for the bin
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
Where is the best/cheapest place to get decent runners around Dublin?

Current Asics are ready for the bin

Asics store in Kildare village has all sorts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 18, 2015, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
Where is the best/cheapest place to get decent runners around Dublin?

Current Asics are ready for the bin

Asics store in Kildare village has all sorts.

Nice one forgot about there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2015, 12:32:52 PM
Gallsman the answer to your question on 30 minutes is it depends. Once you get through a few weeks of the couch to 5k you'll figure out what pace you can go at.

It's good to have a target and it may be a good target but it all depends. I know a few ones who set the same target and some blitzed it and some just beat it. Give it a few weeks first to find your feet.

It's 9 minute plus miles. Should be manageable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2015, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 17, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
Long time cardio avoider who only does a few conditioning classes like circuits a few times a week, no endurance training done really in the last 10 years since I stopped playing. Have just finished week 1 of couch to 5k with no real difficulty and am targeting a September park run to finish it off. What would be a good target to set for an absolute beginner? Sub 30?

Don't embarrass the club.... Sub 25!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 18, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
Been running about 6 weeks, doing 5k's 2 or 3 times a week. Finding it difficult to keep running for the whole 5k though, will always stop to walk at least once but more often than not twice. I'd like not to stop for the whole 5k and that's always my intention but not managed it so far.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on July 20, 2015, 09:19:48 AM
The club's 5 mile race coming up soon if anyone was interested;

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 22, 2015, 12:42:11 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 18, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
Been running about 6 weeks, doing 5k's 2 or 3 times a week. Finding it difficult to keep running for the whole 5k though, will always stop to walk at least once but more often than not twice. I'd like not to stop for the whole 5k and that's always my intention but not managed it so far.

Good stuff, great that you're sticking at it. My advice to you would be to start off really slowly, slower than you usually run. your target is to do your 5k without stopping or maybe only stopping once. It does not matter how long it takes. It can feel unnatural for even the most inexperienced runner to go so slow but once you discipline yourself to do it you get used to it. After a while you'll do your 5k comfortably and you can maybe pick up your pace a little. When you stick to it you will improve. I'm only two years at it and I love it. My first steps were just about doing 15-20 minutes and building from there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 22, 2015, 07:43:57 AM
Most of the 14 week marathon plans commence this week for anyone interested in doing Dublin! Made a start on Monday. 6 miles to do today and 12 on Sat or Sunday. going to replace at least one run a week with swim/spin/circuits or Pilates to rest the ankles. Two identical pairs of runners bought and loads of Vaseline for the nooks and crannies
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2015, 08:33:03 AM
Quote from: CD on July 22, 2015, 07:43:57 AM
Most of the 14 week marathon plans commence this week for anyone interested in doing Dublin! Made a start on Monday. 6 miles to do today and 12 on Sat or Sunday. going to replace at least one run a week with swim/spin/circuits or Pilates to rest the ankles. Two identical pairs of runners bought and loads of Vaseline for the nooks and crannies

Fingers crossed CD hope this all works out for you..... Was tempted but I have a great wee set of classes at the gym with good craic and enjoy my wee runs where I live... For the Marathon I'd have to give that up to do one race... Nah!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on July 22, 2015, 10:16:51 AM
Quote from: CD on July 22, 2015, 07:43:57 AM
Most of the 14 week marathon plans commence this week for anyone interested in doing Dublin! Made a start on Monday. 6 miles to do today and 12 on Sat or Sunday. going to replace at least one run a week with swim/spin/circuits or Pilates to rest the ankles. Two identical pairs of runners bought and loads of Vaseline for the nooks and crannies

Started a 16 week plan 2 weeks ago on Monday. I said after Belfast last year I'd never do one again but have got the bug again. I'm following a plan on Runkeeper - great job so far, it tells me through the earphones when to start a new interval, etc... The GPS can sometimes be a bit of a pain when it messes up but hasn't been too bad so far. I've 8 mile to do today and then 11 at the weekend

Going to try and work in the Belfast half in September as well
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on July 22, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
Had a beautiful 10km this morning around Roughey and the Nun's Walk in Bundoran. Sun shining and a pod of dolphins in the bay that I was tempted to stop and watch!
Aiming to do Belfast half as well - enjoyed it last year! I'll try to work in the Letterkenny half and Sligo ten mile as wel. Good.uck with the preparation points!
Cheers MR! Fingers crossed the body holds up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 22, 2015, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: CD on July 22, 2015, 07:43:57 AM
Most of the 14 week marathon plans commence this week for anyone interested in doing Dublin! Made a start on Monday. 6 miles to do today and 12 on Sat or Sunday. going to replace at least one run a week with swim/spin/circuits or Pilates to rest the ankles. Two identical pairs of runners bought and loads of Vaseline for the nooks and crannies
Would nearly be tempted but I promised herself I wouldn't!
Think I'll stick with the Dublin half in September and then the Clontarf Half in November.
Frank Duffy 10mile next month also.
Best of luck with it CD.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on July 23, 2015, 01:37:05 PM
Has anyone done the Dam busters Silent Valley half marathon? It's on 22 August this year - I'm thinking about giving it a go. Might be a stupid question considering its in the middle of the Mournes (I think) but is it a hilly course?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on July 23, 2015, 01:58:23 PM
Not a big fan of them but check their website out they usually have a Garmin route on for their races
There is a bit of trail at the start and end with a run along the Valley to Ben Crom Dam and return in between
As flat a race as you will get in that part of the country
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Missed out on my long run last weekend due to a myriad of things (Connacht Final being one of them  >:( and brother home from the US also meant pints) so felt mighty guilty all week. Decided I'd do about 11k and mapped out a route on the mapymyrun website. Great. Halfway through it I knew I'd obviously made a balls of the map so ended up doing 13.5k. Delighted. Pizza tonight!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 24, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
10K tomorrow night at 7. Going to attack it and go for the PB.
Will be last short one for a bit, into marathon mode from Monday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 24, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
My watch lets me create custom workouts and alerts you when to speed up slow down etc. Have you a Garmin?
Don't know of any apps
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 03:26:44 PM
No - mainly use my mobile with RunKeeper to track any runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2015, 03:32:23 PM
Was supposed to do a 5k Sunday but we've a Junior Championship match at the same time. I feel there's a PB in me at present but next 5k I'll run is a local one on a tough course. Great prep for the Warriors but not going to help with a PB.

Anyway - the big target is the Warriors. Not going to push for the half marathon after, just can't get the time to do enough training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on July 24, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 24, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
My watch lets me create custom workouts and alerts you when to speed up slow down etc. Have you a Garmin?
Don't know of any apps

Runkeeper lets you do it...

https://support.runkeeper.com/hc/en-us/articles/201827433-Creating-One-Off-Workouts
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Did the Swan River 14km this morning. Only signed up on Friday, and tbh wasn't really feeling it.

Calf was real tight yesterday and I spent a while on the foam roller, but gave me a lot of bother today.

Set out pretty slow as I had only done max 10km in the last few months. Watch struggled to find satellites at the start so I didn't get that working for 2.5kms, which meant I had only a vague idea of how quick I was going. Anyway, I felt that I was going slower than usual, and labouring. There was a climb that started at 8km in, which turned into a really steep climb from 8.5-9.5km, which then eased off a bit, but didnt get to the top of the hill until the 10km mark. At this stage I had a really tight right calf a massive knot in my right glute, and a blister on my right instep.

As I got to the 10km mark, I looked at my watch and the time was 08:58. This was way faster than I had expected, and this along with the downhill stretch gave me real confidence to push on. The glute wasn't as bad going downhill so I pushed on.

My ave time/km kept dropping the closer i got to the finish, and managed to post an official time of 1:14:41.

To say I'm delighted is an understatement - I had figured I would do well to break 1:20, and half way through I was ready to revise that to 1:25
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Did the Swan River 14km this morning. Only signed up on Friday, and tbh wasn't really feeling it.

Calf was real tight yesterday and I spent a while on the foam roller, but gave me a lot of bother today.

Set out pretty slow as I had only done max 10km in the last few months. Watch struggled to find satellites at the start so I didn't get that working for 2.5kms, which meant I had only a vague idea of how quick I was going. Anyway, I felt that I was going slower than usual, and labouring. There was a climb that started at 8km in, which turned into a really steep climb from 8.5-9.5km, which then eased off a bit, but didnt get to the top of the hill until the 10km mark. At this stage I had a really tight right calf a massive knot in my right glute, and a blister on my right instep.

As I got to the 10km mark, I looked at my watch and the time was 08:58. This was way faster than I had expected, and this along with the downhill stretch gave me real confidence to push on. The glute wasn't as bad going downhill so I pushed on.

My ave time/km kept dropping the closer i got to the finish, and managed to post an official time of 1:14:41.

To say I'm delighted is an understatement - I had figured I would do well to break 1:20, and half way through I was ready to revise that to 1:25

Good man.

And congrats on the new world record.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 07:02:23 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Did the Swan River 14km this morning. Only signed up on Friday, and tbh wasn't really feeling it.

Calf was real tight yesterday and I spent a while on the foam roller, but gave me a lot of bother today.

Set out pretty slow as I had only done max 10km in the last few months. Watch struggled to find satellites at the start so I didn't get that working for 2.5kms, which meant I had only a vague idea of how quick I was going. Anyway, I felt that I was going slower than usual, and labouring. There was a climb that started at 8km in, which turned into a really steep climb from 8.5-9.5km, which then eased off a bit, but didnt get to the top of the hill until the 10km mark. At this stage I had a really tight right calf a massive knot in my right glute, and a blister on my right instep.

As I got to the 10km mark, I looked at my watch and the time was 08:58. This was way faster than I had expected, and this along with the downhill stretch gave me real confidence to push on. The glute wasn't as bad going downhill so I pushed on.

My ave time/km kept dropping the closer i got to the finish, and managed to post an official time of 1:14:41.

To say I'm delighted is an understatement - I had figured I would do well to break 1:20, and half way through I was ready to revise that to 1:25

Good man.

And congrats on the new world record.  ;)

Cheers! Although I was careful to word it correctly. The time was 08:58. Ya see, my GPS wasn't working at the start so I hadn't a scooby doo how quick I was going

(I'm sure you know all this, but anyway)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 26, 2015, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Did the Swan River 14km this morning. Only signed up on Friday, and tbh wasn't really feeling it.

Calf was real tight yesterday and I spent a while on the foam roller, but gave me a lot of bother today.

Set out pretty slow as I had only done max 10km in the last few months. Watch struggled to find satellites at the start so I didn't get that working for 2.5kms, which meant I had only a vague idea of how quick I was going. Anyway, I felt that I was going slower than usual, and labouring. There was a climb that started at 8km in, which turned into a really steep climb from 8.5-9.5km, which then eased off a bit, but didnt get to the top of the hill until the 10km mark. At this stage I had a really tight right calf a massive knot in my right glute, and a blister on my right instep.

As I got to the 10km mark, I looked at my watch and the time was 08:58. This was way faster than I had expected, and this along with the downhill stretch gave me real confidence to push on. The glute wasn't as bad going downhill so I pushed on.

My ave time/km kept dropping the closer i got to the finish, and managed to post an official time of 1:14:41.

To say I'm delighted is an understatement - I had figured I would do well to break 1:20, and half way through I was ready to revise that to 1:25
Class...fair play, had a look at the website. Looks a great course. The Aussies love their strange distances...did city to surf in Sydney when I was over there...think it's about 12km or something, never get a race like that here! Forces ya to do it teb next year to try and do a PB ya see!

Don't know what happened myself last night, legs had no zip, just one of those races. Notorious course which I did when I was a pup and forgot how many rolling hills there was. 42 seconds off the PB which is plenty. Another day it'll go hopefully!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
Good stuff deeler, always a great buzz hitting a time. And BM at least you are mortal and can have an off day  ;)
Have been clocking up decent mileage and yesterday was the club's 10 miler.  Was a great event again in its second year and over 200 entries, up about 60 from last year. The race itself had all the trimmings and everyone went home happy. The finish is a lap of the GAA clubs track at field, so it's a good stadium feel to it.
I had planned on having a good run at 1.07 which would have been a PB but Friday evening was asked if I'd run as a guide for a visually impaired runner. I have done it before bit only on a couple of shorter training runs. The guy who was to do the guide would have done it lots and in races bit he had a funeral to attend.
have to say, it was as good as any PB. Andy was a great companion and a serious inspiration. We set a 1.08 target as both similar paces. He ran track for Ireland in his youth as a visually impaired runner and also on the tandem bike. He training for the great north run in September and has done a few marathons.
We really worked together after a difficult start due to crowds of enthusiastic runners, but we kept a slow pace till the field opened up. After a mile we where picking off runners at our ease, I talked him through the course and we where joined by a loop of a shoe lace that we both held. Last couple of mile was hardest, it's a tight slow drag into a headwind and the narrows part of the course but we got through it fine.
Finished in 1.10.30 and both happy at that. Was a great experience. Andy is blind but is heading to Thurles today for the hurling as he is a Waterford living outside newry.

Conor Duffy won the race in just under 54mins.

On the holidays this week in the sunny (it's raining) south east, so be nice to get out running on a few different routes!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 26, 2015, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 26, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Did the Swan River 14km this morning. Only signed up on Friday, and tbh wasn't really feeling it.

Calf was real tight yesterday and I spent a while on the foam roller, but gave me a lot of bother today.

Set out pretty slow as I had only done max 10km in the last few months. Watch struggled to find satellites at the start so I didn't get that working for 2.5kms, which meant I had only a vague idea of how quick I was going. Anyway, I felt that I was going slower than usual, and labouring. There was a climb that started at 8km in, which turned into a really steep climb from 8.5-9.5km, which then eased off a bit, but didnt get to the top of the hill until the 10km mark. At this stage I had a really tight right calf a massive knot in my right glute, and a blister on my right instep.

As I got to the 10km mark, I looked at my watch and the time was 08:58. This was way faster than I had expected, and this along with the downhill stretch gave me real confidence to push on. The glute wasn't as bad going downhill so I pushed on.

My ave time/km kept dropping the closer i got to the finish, and managed to post an official time of 1:14:41.

To say I'm delighted is an understatement - I had figured I would do well to break 1:20, and half way through I was ready to revise that to 1:25
Class...fair play, had a look at the website. Looks a great course. The Aussies love their strange distances...did city to surf in Sydney when I was over there...think it's about 12km or something, never get a race like that here! Forces ya to do it teb next year to try and do a PB ya see!

Don't know what happened myself last night, legs had no zip, just one of those races. Notorious course which I did when I was a pup and forgot how many rolling hills there was. 42 seconds off the PB which is plenty. Another day it'll go hopefully!

Yeah, the C2S is next up on 30 August. HBF do a big one each year which is 12km too.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: stew on July 26, 2015, 07:08:39 PM
I absolutely hate running, that said in an effort to lose 40lbs I recently ran a 10k, I was in hoping to do it inside an hour and ended up doing it in 53:53, I was delighted to be honest.

I swim a mile a day...........slowly, and fairly recently bought a new bike, I love to swim, like to ride and hate to run but since I am too slow to play football anymore I am forced to try things I am not neither natural nor good at in order to fire the competitive juices.

Hopefully moving full time to Florida helps because 20 below wind chill for half the year kills the desire to get shit done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on July 26, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on July 24, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 24, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
My watch lets me create custom workouts and alerts you when to speed up slow down etc. Have you a Garmin?
Don't know of any apps

Runkeeper lets you do it...

https://support.runkeeper.com/hc/en-us/articles/201827433-Creating-One-Off-Workouts
Great shout - good man
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 26, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Did a half marathon yesterday and didn't feel too bad. Doing the Rock & Roll half next Sunday morning now.

Am signed for the DCM - the Athlone 3/4 Marathon is on the 3rd October - good preparation or advised against??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2015, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: stew on July 26, 2015, 07:08:39 PM
I absolutely hate running, that said in an effort to lose 40lbs I recently ran a 10k, I was in hoping to do it inside an hour and ended up doing it in 53:53, I was delighted to be honest.

I swim a mile a day...........slowly, and fairly recently bought a new bike, I love to swim, like to ride and hate to run but since I am too slow to play football anymore I am forced to try things I am not neither natural nor good at in order to fire the competitive juices.

Hopefully moving full time to Florida helps because 20 below wind chill for half the year kills the desire to get shit done.

Very good going!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 26, 2015, 09:48:58 PM
Quote from: stew on July 26, 2015, 07:08:39 PM
I absolutely hate running, that said in an effort to lose 40lbs I recently ran a 10k, I was in hoping to do it inside an hour and ended up doing it in 53:53, I was delighted to be honest.

I swim a mile a day...........slowly, and fairly recently bought a new bike, I love to swim, like to ride and hate to run but since I am too slow to play football anymore I am forced to try things I am not neither natural nor good at in order to fire the competitive juices.

Hopefully moving full time to Florida helps because 20 below wind chill for half the year kills the desire to get shit done.

Great going Stew, keep it up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2015, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 26, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Did a half marathon yesterday and didn't feel too bad. Doing the Rock & Roll half next Sunday morning now.

Am signed for the DCM - the Athlone 3/4 Marathon is on the 3rd October - good preparation or advised against??

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne etc, I'm out! Nowhere near fit enough and more particularly motivated enough at the moment. I will keep doing some runs and wait for the bug to return.

Well done on the half. I might target the Clontarf half in November again, which LL mentioned as a possible target.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 26, 2015, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2015, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 26, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Did a half marathon yesterday and didn't feel too bad. Doing the Rock & Roll half next Sunday morning now.

Am signed for the DCM - the Athlone 3/4 Marathon is on the 3rd October - good preparation or advised against??

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne etc, I'm out! Nowhere near fit enough and more particularly motivated enough at the moment. I will keep doing some runs and wait for the bug to return.

Well done on the half. I might target the Clontarf half in November again, which LL mentioned as a possible target.

Use the Clontarf 1/2 as a target for yourself, are you doing much each week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 26, 2015, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2015, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 26, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Did a half marathon yesterday and didn't feel too bad. Doing the Rock & Roll half next Sunday morning now.

Am signed for the DCM - the Athlone 3/4 Marathon is on the 3rd October - good preparation or advised against??

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne etc, I'm out! Nowhere near fit enough and more particularly motivated enough at the moment. I will keep doing some runs and wait for the bug to return.

Well done on the half. I might target the Clontarf half in November again, which LL mentioned as a possible target.

Use the Clontarf 1/2 as a target for yourself, are you doing much each week?

It is a twice yearly event. I did the July one 3 weeks ago and struggled to finish in 2 hrs 6. I have taken a break and only run twice since but I won't let it go. Might run tomorrow actually.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Played junior championship today and am crippled!!! Had a decent game but we lost. No joke but at least 10 of our team are 19/20 making them about half my age. Next oldest to me was about 28. Not a proper junior team at all!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2015, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Played junior championship today and am crippled!!! Had a decent game but we lost. No joke but at least 10 of our team are 19/20 making them about half my age. Next oldest to me was about 28. Not a proper junior team at all!!!!

Running straight lines is fine, twisting turning taking hits and kicking balls is an altogether different pain... Good luck the next couple days.... I refereed div 1 hurling game on a boggy pitch today after 4 mile run this morning followed by a balance class! Thought id be alright, not the case.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 27, 2015, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Played junior championship today and am crippled!!! Had a decent game but we lost. No joke but at least 10 of our team are 19/20 making them about half my age. Next oldest to me was about 28. Not a proper junior team at all!!!!

Might be time you moved onto The Sunday Game panel.  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 27, 2015, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 27, 2015, 12:39:48 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Played junior championship today and am crippled!!! Had a decent game but we lost. No joke but at least 10 of our team are 19/20 making them about half my age. Next oldest to me was about 28. Not a proper junior team at all!!!!

Might be time you moved onto The Sunday Game panel.  :D

To hell with that! When you're mercifully still able to play why in the name of God wouldn't ya?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on July 29, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 26, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on July 24, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 24, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
My watch lets me create custom workouts and alerts you when to speed up slow down etc. Have you a Garmin?
Don't know of any apps

Runkeeper lets you do it...

https://support.runkeeper.com/hc/en-us/articles/201827433-Creating-One-Off-Workouts
Great shout - good man
Just used this and works fantastically even got my workout intervals logged.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on July 29, 2015, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 29, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 26, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on July 24, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 24, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 24, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Lads - any good apps out there that let ye configure fartlek intervals?
My watch lets me create custom workouts and alerts you when to speed up slow down etc. Have you a Garmin?
Don't know of any apps

Runkeeper lets you do it...

https://support.runkeeper.com/hc/en-us/articles/201827433-Creating-One-Off-Workouts
Great shout - good man
Just used this and works fantastically even got my workout intervals logged.

Yeah, great job. I use it with an iPhone 5C and the only complaint I'd have is the GPS can sometimes log me running all over the place (when really I've just been running in a straight line) and incorrectly increases the mileage as a result. I've tried letting the apps sit at Good GPS for a minute or two before starting to run rather than heading off as soon as it says Good GPS and think that has helped a bit. I'd say that's more a problem with the GPS hardware in the phone than the app though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 29, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
Anyone doing the Rock & Roll 1/2 Marathon Sunday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on July 31, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
Signed up for a 10miler in December. Thinking of following the hal higdon half program would this ok or to much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 03, 2015, 09:38:54 PM
Did the Rock n Roll 1/2 yesterday in 1.54 - very happy with that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
Well done, I'm hoping for something similar in the Dublin half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 04, 2015, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
Well done, I'm hoping for something similar in the Dublin half.

Cheers, 12 weeks now to the DCM!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 04, 2015, 08:39:20 PM
I've been training pretty well lately. My 70%hrr easy run has dropped from around  10'20 mile to around 8'50 - 8'55 min mile, which i took as an indicator that my fitness was improving. I ran a sub 23 5k in a time trial one evening which was a 70sec PB.
I've been feeling great on all my runs and have had bundles of energy and my confidence was really up,but my last 3 training runs have been disasters.
My legs are heavy and I am getting out of breath way to easily. Tonight really annoyed me, I was only doing 9'10 min miles and I had to stop after 3 miles.
I felt like the very first night I ever went running. Saturday morning last I felt the same.
Getting worried now as the Frank Duffy 10mile is only a few weeks away.
Feel a bit down about the whole thing to be honest!
What should I do? Google throws up everything from taking a rest(even though I don't feel like I've been overtraining) to going out and blasting out a fast 5k to get the mood up again.
Have a few hours in the morning before I need to be in work so was going to go and try slow 10miler.
Any advice oh wise ones?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 04, 2015, 10:38:16 PM
I'd take a couple of days off and lash the water into ya. Sometimes its good to reset. Might be cumulative fatigue. Easy days should be easy and hard days hard.....can be difficult to reign the easy days in when you're going well...can be detrimental in the long term.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:52:11 PM
It happens so wise up and getting annoyed about it will only aggravate it...

Running is like a lot of sports, sometimes we are in good form and other times we play/run shit... Stresses can act as a motivator or work against us... Virus might be working on you and you don't know... Loads of other factors too...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 05, 2015, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 04, 2015, 10:38:16 PM
I'd take a couple of days off and lash the water into ya. Sometimes its good to reset. Might be cumulative fatigue. Easy days should be easy and hard days hard.....can be difficult to reign the easy days in when you're going well...can be detrimental in the long term.

I think this is key. When you're flying you just don't want to go out and plod at a slow pace but you have to. Many times I went out to do an easy ruin and felt great so started pegging it after a few k's. What you describe above has happened to me a few times and I felt the same as you but I've got better at mitigating against it and knowing how I feel when I'm doing too much.

Junior championship again last night. Another goal but also another defeat. Really enjoying it and not quite as sore today. Will do 5k easy at lunchtime now. Have a really tough 8 miler on Sunday with lots of hills which will be good prep for the Warriors Run (similar course).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gaffer on August 08, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Going to start a bit of running and have been advised to do the walk-run- walk to get me started (beginner I am)

Did I read somewhere where you can buy a timing device which beeps to tell when when to walk/run / walk?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2015, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 08, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Going to start a bit of running and have been advised to do the walk-run- walk to get me started (beginner I am)

Did I read somewhere where you can buy a timing device which beeps to tell when when to walk/run / walk?

Thanks in advance.
I have a garmin 610 watch that does this.
You create the custom workouts yourself on the garmin connect website and upload them to the watch.
There are also plenty of couch to 5k apps for your smartphone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 08, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Any advice for getting back running after a calf injury. I'm guessing just a short jog to test it out?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gaffer on August 08, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2015, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 08, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Going to start a bit of running and have been advised to do the walk-run- walk to get me started (beginner I am)

Did I read somewhere where you can buy a timing device which beeps to tell when when to walk/run / walk?

Thanks in advance.
I have a garmin 610 watch that does this.
You create the custom workouts yourself on the garmin connect website and upload them to the watch.
There are also plenty of couch to 5k apps for your smartphone.

  Thanks Laoislad
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on August 08, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
Ye can also create custom workouts using the Runkeeper app if you use your phone to track your runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 10, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
Did the Knocknarea 8 Mile Loop in 1:18:16 today which I'm happy with. Was aiming for something around 1:20. Should mean I'm able to complete the Warriors Run (approx. 9.3 miles) over a similar route in sun 1:40 which is number 1 running goal this year (did it in a shade under 1:47 last year but felt I could improve a decent bit). I reckon there's no need for a very long run next weekend - maybe 9/10k handy - and just keep it between the ditches midweek. Warriors is on August 22nd (Sat week). Any advice? I've a club football game next weekend which is playing on my mind. Really want to play it but is it worth it with all the work I've done (in case something goes wrong)???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on August 10, 2015, 01:00:49 AM
Seanie, I know exactly where you are coming from. My honest opinion is give the football a skip. I tried to play a bit of reserve football and run for 2 years and in my opinion it can't be done. Time to bite the bullet and let the young fellas at the football! My running has improved no end but in saying that nothing will ever replace being in the changing rooms and on the field with your mates. Apart from hitting PB's for the next couple of years!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 10, 2015, 08:46:10 AM
Cheers No 1. You're telling me what I know deep down but just don't want to hear. Additional problem with me is for whatever reason (getting a raw deal from selectors, fitness issues) I feel I missed out on too much football in my prime. Played pretty well in the two recent games (fitness makes an awful difference but still wild sore in the two days afterwards) and just enjoyed it so much. I just love playing football.

All that said I know you're right.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 10, 2015, 09:07:35 AM
If I was you I'd stay doing what I love, and in your case thats playing football.
Will be plenty of time for running but you won't always be playing football.
I suppose it depends on which gives you the bigger kick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 10, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
I packed in the football way too early Seanie and have regretted it every year since. Play as long as you're able. The aches do last a bit longer but you've loads of years ahead to run. Good luck with the game and the Warriors run - I'd say you'll be tackling the wild Atlantic half as well? Thinking of registering for that one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 10, 2015, 09:50:34 AM
Won't make any decision on the Wild Atlantic Half until after the Warriors. Have never done a half and think it would be doable with a kick on over the 4-6 weeks after the Warriors. I've a trip to Birmingham the weekend after the Warriors so that won't help. The Wild Atlantic Half should be a nice run (weather permitting) but it might just come too soon for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 10, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
Seanie, if you've trained for Warriors and played ball, worked away. A week between match and run is enough time to recover and with recent matches under your belt the soreness and recovery time might even improve  ;) However, I'd say if you have doubts and will try to avoid an injury, you be as well missing it, its normally the time that something does happen. You normally come out the worst when you half go for something.

Did my first 20mile of the year yesterday and surprisingly fresh after it. Would know its in the legs but the training to date has been good, hitting all the planned runs and controlling the pace. Ran a comfortable 8min mile pace throughout and picked up last 4 miles to 7.30min. Plan had scheduled a 16mile run but was one of the changes I made to fit in a third 20mile run rather than the 2 in the schedule Last 2 weeks have been 50mile weeks but have been off work for these weeks and the difference it makes when you can plan the runs and recover afterwards is incredible. With work and everything else you normally rushing into a run or out of a run. Much easier, so if anyone would like to sponsor a middle of the field slogger to fund a professional lifestyle I'll consider all offers  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 10, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
Sure who could afford an accountants wage...robbin bastids.. ;)

Haven't done any running myself since last wednesday. Hurt my back putting down a timber floor last week and have been taking pain killers since. It's a bit better today.
Frank Duffy 10mile on saturday week should be fun now  ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 10, 2015, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 10, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
Sure who could afford an accountants wage...robbin bastids.. ;)

Haven't done any running myself since last wednesday. Hurt my back putting down a timber floor last week and have been taking pain killers since. It's a bit better today.
Frank Duffy 10mile on saturday week should be fun now  ::)

That's harsh, we have to live as well. Have you seen the price of Swiss Alpine bottled spring water recently? And how many bottles of this stuff it takes to fill a bath??  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 10, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 10, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
Seanie, if you've trained for Warriors and played ball, worked away. A week between match and run is enough time to recover and with recent matches under your belt the soreness and recovery time might even improve  ;) However, I'd say if you have doubts and will try to avoid an injury, you be as well missing it, its normally the time that something does happen. You normally come out the worst when you half go for something.

Did my first 20mile of the year yesterday and surprisingly fresh after it. Would know its in the legs but the training to date has been good, hitting all the planned runs and controlling the pace. Ran a comfortable 8min mile pace throughout and picked up last 4 miles to 7.30min. Plan had scheduled a 16mile run but was one of the changes I made to fit in a third 20mile run rather than the 2 in the schedule Last 2 weeks have been 50mile weeks but have been off work for these weeks and the difference it makes when you can plan the runs and recover afterwards is incredible. With work and everything else you normally rushing into a run or out of a run. Much easier, so if anyone would like to sponsor a middle of the field slogger to fund a professional lifestyle I'll consider all offers  ;)  :D
That's brutal running Bingo! I went out with a group on Sunday for what was meant to be a long slow run - 8.30+. A couple of club runners really pulled us along and ran 11 miles x 7.50. Really enjoyed the intensity and the pace. A bit sore today but not too bad. Aiming for a couple of half marathons and then Dublin all being well! Need to step up the mile count. Hoping to get away with 35 miles a week by adding 2 every Sunday and taking 2 away midweek. Would love to manage either a spinning or yoga class but can't find the time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2015, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: CD on August 10, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 10, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
Seanie, if you've trained for Warriors and played ball, worked away. A week between match and run is enough time to recover and with recent matches under your belt the soreness and recovery time might even improve  ;) However, I'd say if you have doubts and will try to avoid an injury, you be as well missing it, its normally the time that something does happen. You normally come out the worst when you half go for something.

Did my first 20mile of the year yesterday and surprisingly fresh after it. Would know its in the legs but the training to date has been good, hitting all the planned runs and controlling the pace. Ran a comfortable 8min mile pace throughout and picked up last 4 miles to 7.30min. Plan had scheduled a 16mile run but was one of the changes I made to fit in a third 20mile run rather than the 2 in the schedule Last 2 weeks have been 50mile weeks but have been off work for these weeks and the difference it makes when you can plan the runs and recover afterwards is incredible. With work and everything else you normally rushing into a run or out of a run. Much easier, so if anyone would like to sponsor a middle of the field slogger to fund a professional lifestyle I'll consider all offers  ;)  :D
That's brutal running Bingo! I went out with a group on Sunday for what was meant to be a long slow run - 8.30+. A couple of club runners really pulled us along and ran 11 miles x 7.50. Really enjoyed the intensity and the pace. A bit sore today but not too bad. Aiming for a couple of half marathons and then Dublin all being well! Need to step up the mile count. Hoping to get away with 35 miles a week by adding 2 every Sunday and taking 2 away midweek. Would love to manage either a spinning or yoga class but can't find the time.

Maybe not so much for the spinning while doing the marathon training but certainly the Yoga/Pilate's or I've been doing this fusion/body balance class for a few months along with the Pilate's .... great classes and once you get over the fact that it may feel a little corny it actually has great benefits... stretching and core work.. time like anything is tough with families but would recommend it highly
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 12, 2015, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 17, 2015, 12:04:14 PM
Long time cardio avoider who only does a few conditioning classes like circuits a few times a week, no endurance training done really in the last 10 years since I stopped playing. Have just finished week 1 of couch to 5k with no real difficulty and am targeting a September park run to finish it off. What would be a good target to set for an absolute beginner? Sub 30?

So, I'm beyond halfway at this stage and have been going pretty good so far. Sometimes I've had to do the runs on treadmill to fit in with weights programme but haven't failed to complete a run to date. Have no gear other than my phone, so am not paying attention to pace or heart rate or anything - my goal is just to finish the 5k at this stage. (Although Milltown, I might have to let you down as sub 25 would have me over the moon. My original, speculative sub-30 target is looking increasingly ambitious at this stage!).

The most recent session called for two runs of 8 mins with a 5 min walk in between them. I've a habit of developing a mild stitch on my right hand side towards the end of my first run and then managing to get through with it on the second one. However, the next session calls for one run of 20 minutes, which I'm not sure I'll be able to get through when the stitch kicks in after 5/6 mins. Any advice or tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 13, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
Well done on your progress so far, brilliant to have not missed a beat.

Perhaps you need to slow down, especially when you feel the stitch come on? You don't need to be flying it to get through this. I found from playing gaelic football we're conditioned to go at things like a bull at a gate - it's the way we're trained (or certainly were, it might be different now). With running it seems counterintuitive but slowing down to what will feel like an intolerably (almost embarrassing) slow is what you should do. The other guys here who know better what they're talking about will probably explain it better.

Keep it up and good luck.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
For the stitches have a read of this http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch (http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch)

In my experience it can come from wind - food eaten before hand, galloping down water in the hour before a run or breathing badly at the start of a run. Generally a stretch of the side can shift it - standing straight, lower hand down one side/leg, where raising the other up and over head and then rolling towards the side over towards the side with the hand down the side/leg. But getting the cause of it sorted is better than having to do this.

As seanie says, starting too quickly and getting breathing wrong can trap the air and cause it. Take not of your routine prior to next run and starting changing parts until you eliminate the stitch. Normally something simple.

First V02 Max session last night of the marathon cycle. Had the 20miles done sunday, did 5 very easy Tuesday and 10miles last night with 5x1km at 5k pace. Good tight session but felt way more manageable than similar sessions in prior cycles. Was fairly late when I got out to do it (9.30pm) and was just back from a very frustrating 1pt defeat in a senior league game, so definitely felt like putting in some effort! A nice 12 mile run to look forward to this evening, pace will be a lot easier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
For the stitches have a read of this http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch (http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch)

In my experience it can come from wind - food eaten before hand, galloping down water in the hour before a run or breathing badly at the start of a run. Generally a stretch of the side can shift it - standing straight, lower hand down one side/leg, where raising the other up and over head and then rolling towards the side over towards the side with the hand down the side/leg. But getting the cause of it sorted is better than having to do this.

As seanie says, starting too quickly and getting breathing wrong can trap the air and cause it. Take not of your routine prior to next run and starting changing parts until you eliminate the stitch. Normally something simple.

First V02 Max session last night of the marathon cycle. Had the 20miles done sunday, did 5 very easy Tuesday and 10miles last night with 5x1km at 5k pace. Good tight session but felt way more manageable than similar sessions in prior cycles. Was fairly late when I got out to do it (9.30pm) and was just back from a very frustrating 1pt defeat in a senior league game, so definitely felt like putting in some effort! A nice 12 mile run to look forward to this evening, pace will be a lot easier!

Do you do the 5 x 1 km at the end of the 10 mile or mix them into the middle of the run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
For the stitches have a read of this http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch (http://www.runnersworld.com/ask-coach-jenny/four-ways-to-stop-the-dreaded-side-stitch)

In my experience it can come from wind - food eaten before hand, galloping down water in the hour before a run or breathing badly at the start of a run. Generally a stretch of the side can shift it - standing straight, lower hand down one side/leg, where raising the other up and over head and then rolling towards the side over towards the side with the hand down the side/leg. But getting the cause of it sorted is better than having to do this.

As seanie says, starting too quickly and getting breathing wrong can trap the air and cause it. Take not of your routine prior to next run and starting changing parts until you eliminate the stitch. Normally something simple.

First V02 Max session last night of the marathon cycle. Had the 20miles done sunday, did 5 very easy Tuesday and 10miles last night with 5x1km at 5k pace. Good tight session but felt way more manageable than similar sessions in prior cycles. Was fairly late when I got out to do it (9.30pm) and was just back from a very frustrating 1pt defeat in a senior league game, so definitely felt like putting in some effort! A nice 12 mile run to look forward to this evening, pace will be a lot easier!

Do you do the 5 x 1 km at the end of the 10 mile or mix them into the middle of the run?

I done them about 3.5 miles in. I done them at the track at the gaa field that is 500m per lap, so ran out a route to it that about the 3.5miles, so was decent warm up. Did the 1km and then 3 sides of the track as a very slow recovery in between, just to start and finish in different places and keep the mind working somewhat. Then an easy run home, a shorter route than the route out. Worked out great, nice warm and nice recovery/slow run afterwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Sounds great. I love doing something different like that.
I still haven't ran in over a week now. Back is killing me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Sounds great. I love doing something different like that.
I still haven't ran in over a week now. Back is killing me.

Yeah, I welcomed the change of pace and the time flew by. Makes a change from slowly watching the miles clock up.

Not getting any better? Have you got it looked at?

One of those surreal moments last night - ran home through the town and it about 10.45. Leaving Certs out in force round town (Basshunter was playing a set in local nightclub - the younger board members may know him  ;) ), so place was very busy. Young ones all over the place, struggling to walk from combination of drink and high heels, ones sitting on street cause they can't get in the pubs/nightclub and cause they need a rest. Me looking at them in pity and them looking back wondering WTF was a man doing running the streets at near 11pm. Not sure who had the right idea  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 13, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Cheers for the stitches advice lads. When does this famed "running bug" I've heard all of you talk about kick in? The biggest issue for me don't the C25K runs is sheer boredom! I just want it to be over asap!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 13, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Sounds great. I love doing something different like that.
I still haven't ran in over a week now. Back is killing me.

Yeah, I welcomed the change of pace and the time flew by. Makes a change from slowly watching the miles clock up.

Not getting any better? Have you got it looked at?

One of those surreal moments last night - ran home through the town and it about 10.45. Leaving Certs out in force round town (Basshunter was playing a set in local nightclub - the younger board members may know him  ;) ), so place was very busy. Young ones all over the place, struggling to walk from combination of drink and high heels, ones sitting on street cause they can't get in the pubs/nightclub and cause they need a rest. Me looking at them in pity and them looking back wondering WTF was a man doing running the streets at near 11pm. Not sure who had the right idea  ;D

Where do you live - Ibiza??!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 13, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Sounds great. I love doing something different like that.
I still haven't ran in over a week now. Back is killing me.

Yeah, I welcomed the change of pace and the time flew by. Makes a change from slowly watching the miles clock up.

Not getting any better? Have you got it looked at?

One of those surreal moments last night - ran home through the town and it about 10.45. Leaving Certs out in force round town (Basshunter was playing a set in local nightclub - the younger board members may know him  ;) ), so place was very busy. Young ones all over the place, struggling to walk from combination of drink and high heels, ones sitting on street cause they can't get in the pubs/nightclub and cause they need a rest. Me looking at them in pity and them looking back wondering WTF was a man doing running the streets at near 11pm. Not sure who had the right idea  ;D

Where do you live - Ibiza??!!  ;D ;D

Might as well have been last night. By all accounts it was like Magaluf inside the place and on the street afterwards. Playa del Blayney for one night only  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2015, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 13, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Cheers for the stitches advice lads. When does this famed "running bug" I've heard all of you talk about kick in? The biggest issue for me don't the C25K runs is sheer boredom! I just want it to be over asap!

Once you get going and not stopping over that distance, then you can start running comfortably and enjoy it.... start looking at the Park runs, great place to get involved and talking to other runners, there are novices and competitive runners that use the park runs as part of their training or just to meet socially...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 13, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2015, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 13, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Cheers for the stitches advice lads. When does this famed "running bug" I've heard all of you talk about kick in? The biggest issue for me don't the C25K runs is sheer boredom! I just want it to be over asap!

Once you get going and not stopping over that distance, then you can start running comfortably and enjoy it.... start looking at the Park runs, great place to get involved and talking to other runners, there are novices and competitive runners that use the park runs as part of their training or just to meet socially...

C25K finishes 7th September - will probably aim for mixture of parkruns in Dublin and Belfast for a few weeks. Belfast park run on September 26th was the initial target.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 13, 2015, 03:22:58 PM
just done a pyramid session at lunch very rewarding but tough going
10 min warm up
1 min on and 30 secs rest, build up to 5 on with half time rest.
Legs are like jelly, lungs are burning!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 13, 2015, 03:22:58 PM
just done a pyramid session at lunch very rewarding but tough going
10 min warm up
1 min on and 30 secs rest, build up to 5 on with half time rest.
Legs are like jelly, lungs are burning!

Its a great session and one that I would have enjoyed previously. Tight going without a doubt but the last 1 min on feels like you are getting released from prison!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 13, 2015, 04:22:17 PM
Trying to give it all on the last, form gone, legs long gone. But the mind stayed strong!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 13, 2015, 04:34:32 PM
So what did you do. 1min on 30secs off,2min on 1min off,3min on 1.30 off...etc etc?
How fast do you go when on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 13, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
1 on
30 rest
2 on
1 rest
3 on
1.5 rest
4 on
2 rest
5 on
2.5 rest
and back down again.

Around 75-80% of Max HR
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:11 AM
For the marathon lads here. Into week 7 of a training program. Missed last nights 10 miler, missed tonight's 7 miler and more than likely to miss the next 6 miler and this weeks long run of 17 miles. Am I fucked? Or will I be ok if if I pick it up again next Tuesday starting with a 7 mile tempo and stick rigidly to the program from then on in?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 14, 2015, 06:29:14 AM
life gets in the way. I wouldn't worry about it as you'll have a good base by now. get back on the horse when you can, btw you'll be flying for the tempo on your fresh legs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 14, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
Did the 20 min run today with no stitch issues. First half was into a headwind and second half mostly uphill so was surprised I got through it. Made sure to check the pace at the start but had plenty at the end for the final stretch home. Have to figure out how to keep it steady!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2015, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 14, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
Did the 20 min run today with no stitch issues. First half was into a headwind and second half mostly uphill so was surprised I got through it. Made sure to check the pace at the start but had plenty at the end for the final stretch home. Have to figure out how to keep it steady!
I remember being over the moon when I done that 20min run during the couch to 5k program! I was worried about doing it the whole week before I did it.
I think I caught the running bug after doing it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 14, 2015, 10:01:32 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 14, 2015, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 14, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
Did the 20 min run today with no stitch issues. First half was into a headwind and second half mostly uphill so was surprised I got through it. Made sure to check the pace at the start but had plenty at the end for the final stretch home. Have to figure out how to keep it steady!
I remember being over the moon when I done that 20min run during the couch to 5k program! I was worried about doing it the whole week before I did it.
I think I caught the running bug after doing it.

Aye, I only look at the week ahead's runs after finishing the previous week's and gulped when I saw the jump from two runs of 8 with a 5 minute walk in between to 20 mins unbroken. Definitely feels like a wee mini breakthrough as I had very little hope this morning that I'd be able to do it.

Only problem was that it coincided with leg day in the gym. I was walking like John Wayne on my way to work afterwards.  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 14, 2015, 11:15:08 AM
Brilliant Gallsman, delighted it went well for you. Keep her lit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 14, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: No1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:11 AM
For the marathon lads here. Into week 7 of a training program. Missed last nights 10 miler, missed tonight's 7 miler and more than likely to miss the next 6 miler and this weeks long run of 17 miles. Am I fucked? Or will I be ok if if I pick it up again next Tuesday starting with a 7 mile tempo and stick rigidly to the program from then on in?

You can't catch up, so just continue with the programme paying some attention to how you feel. Cut off the longer run by 1 or 2 miles if you really need to and move onto next week. Assuming its not injury, you shouldn't have to do this but may need to go easier. They can advise after missing a week with injury to perhaps just take a steady week rather than a full week back into the programme to ensure no after affects of the injury and to get back running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 17, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
Another week down. Decent week again. 45 miles in total but a lot more speed work involved.

Raced a local 10mile race yesterday with a 4 mile warm up. Ran it again as a guide runner for a visually impaired runner. Was a warm day on a tight enough route, lots of turns, corners, hills, bumps etc to negotiate but managed the best. Organisers let us get away before the main body of runners as was another visually impaired runner and a wheelchair competitor. We ran very steady splits and finished in decent shape. Finished in 1.08.55 which was a 10 sec PB for the runner, so was delighted with that.

Big week with 55 miles planned with 2 x 12mile runs and a 20mile on Sunday. Legs feel grand today though, so must be doing something right!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 21, 2015, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 10, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
Did the Knocknarea 8 Mile Loop in 1:18:16 today which I'm happy with. Was aiming for something around 1:20. Should mean I'm able to complete the Warriors Run (approx. 9.3 miles) over a similar route in sun 1:40 which is number 1 running goal this year (did it in a shade under 1:47 last year but felt I could improve a decent bit). I reckon there's no need for a very long run next weekend - maybe 9/10k handy - and just keep it between the ditches midweek. Warriors is on August 22nd (Sat week). Any advice? I've a club football game next weekend which is playing on my mind. Really want to play it but is it worth it with all the work I've done (in case something goes wrong)???

Warriors run tomorrow Seanie. Did ye play the match in the end (and did ye win!).

Best of luck tomorrow anyways, hope you hit the PB from last years time and enjoy the event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 21, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 21, 2015, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 10, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
Did the Knocknarea 8 Mile Loop in 1:18:16 today which I'm happy with. Was aiming for something around 1:20. Should mean I'm able to complete the Warriors Run (approx. 9.3 miles) over a similar route in sun 1:40 which is number 1 running goal this year (did it in a shade under 1:47 last year but felt I could improve a decent bit). I reckon there's no need for a very long run next weekend - maybe 9/10k handy - and just keep it between the ditches midweek. Warriors is on August 22nd (Sat week). Any advice? I've a club football game next weekend which is playing on my mind. Really want to play it but is it worth it with all the work I've done (in case something goes wrong)???

Warriors run tomorrow Seanie. Did ye play the match in the end (and did ye win!).

Best of luck tomorrow anyways, hope you hit the PB from last years time and enjoy the event.

Thanks Bingo. Didn't play the match. We lost 1-5 to 1-13 so pretty sure even my undoubted brilliance wouldn't have tipped the scales in our favour. Several of the lads had "enjoyed" the Fleadh (including the night before) so it eased the guilt of putting my running first.

Nerves beginning to hit. Can't wait to get started. Just want to enjoy the last couple of hundred metres unlike last year. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2015, 10:16:25 PM
Best of luck magpie. I have the Race series 10mile myself in the Phoenix Park tomorrow.
Hoping for a good PB for myself even though I havent done a whole lot of running the past fortnight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 21, 2015, 10:18:24 PM
Good luck Seanie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 21, 2015, 10:40:07 PM
Best of luck lads.

You'll be fresh anyway LL. Nice and steady at start and build into to finish strong.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 22, 2015, 07:04:53 AM
Good luck Seanie.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
11 minute improvment compared to last years time in the race series 10mile for me today.
Happy enough with that but missed out on my target time by about a minute.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 22, 2015, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
11 minute improvment compared to last years time in the race series 10mile for me today.
Happy enough with that but missed out on my target time by about a minute.
Man LL. Quality.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
11 minute improvment compared to last years time in the race series 10mile for me today.
Happy enough with that but missed out on my target time by about a minute.

11 minutes improvement!! my goodness must have been walking last year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 22, 2015, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
11 minute improvment compared to last years time in the race series 10mile for me today.
Happy enough with that but missed out on my target time by about a minute.
Man LL. Quality.
Thanks BM. My old foe ,the hill on the upper glen road towards the finish line knocked the wind out of me again.
My pace slowed by about 2 mins per mile for the last 2 miles going up it.
Happy enough over all, looking forward to the half marathon now.

Any word from seanie?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 22, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 22, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
11 minute improvment compared to last years time in the race series 10mile for me today.
Happy enough with that but missed out on my target time by about a minute.

Wow. What time did you do it in?
Title: A Warriors Tale
Post by: magpie seanie on August 23, 2015, 04:08:03 PM
Last year - 1:46:57 in my first attempt. Felt I could improve considerably. Training went well, a good bit more done. Very confident of a PB and honestly expecting sub 1:40 - this is how it went down.

Start is always congested but positioned myself more towards the front than last year - reckoned it saved more energy being passed than weaving through slower runners. After a couple of k's and out of the village I was mildly concerned. I couldn't seem to get into a comfortable rhythm. Maybe I'm going too fast? Didn't think so. Farther on I passed a girl I know who'd be slower than me, but I'm not comfortable. First big test - the Glen Road. For the first time in my life going up this hill I have to stop and walk. Get going again but have to stop again. And a third time before we turn off the road into the field for the mountain. At this stage I check the watch and I'm a minute ahead of last year but feel awful. It's walking up the mountain from here but I'm struggling to keep up with the person in front. The pain in the legs is brutal. Higher up there are a few spots where you can run and I try to break into a jog but can't keep it going. Seriously thinking about packing it in. Imagining the pain that lies before me - we're not halfway yet. The sight of the cairn is a huge relief. I know a friend is there with bottles of water and I take one and sip away on the descent. Somehow I'm 2 minutes up on last year at the cairn but I'm in survival mode so don't push the descent too hard. A good boost coming back onto the raod with some mates cheering me on but not long til I'm walking again and cursing the world. Downhill to the next turn and I've struck up a chat with a fellow struggler. Lots of friends at the turn and it lifts me. Am able to drive up the next hill and I've lost my buddy. One two occasional walking breaks along the brae but when I'm running I'm moving ok. It just feels like I've not energy. Down the hill and round the corner towards the village and a sign says "pain is just weakness leaving your body"....I smile. Still having to stop every now and then but finally the last hill is behind me and it's less than 1k downhill to the finish line. I know I'm going to do a PB at this point despite everything so at least that's something. 150m from the end a guy I know pulls up beside me. "Let's push it out to the end" he says. I go with him but have to ease off, I just can't. Clench both fists and punch the air going over the line. 1:44:26. Wouldn't have taken it beforehand but in the circumstances a good effort. Never again, and I mean it this time. Absolutely shattered. Can't go for pints after. Home and bed early.

Legs aren't too bad today. I've had an extremely stressful 10 days work/career wise and that must be what sapped my energy. I know my food and hydration was fine. The training was fine. Slightly disappointed after all the work I put in but what can you do. Sometimes you hit days like that. Thanks for the support and encouragement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 23, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Well done LL also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 24, 2015, 12:28:39 AM
Congrats on the PB anyway seanie. Sounds like you had  a tough day at the office alright.
Dunno what to say only keep the head up and maybe set another target race to help you forget about this one or even something like a parkrun
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
Well done LL and Seanie. Great to hit PB's regardless of the day itself. The rest done you good LL to clip 11mins off last year, that's over a 1 minute a mile which is a big leap in a year.

Seanie - fair play for seeing it out. Some days it just doesn't happen and we've all been there. The previous 10 days could well have drained you and you can't see that coming. Another possible reason is that you've a flu or cold brewing and it has drained you but you'd likely have been hit by that now. Take the PB and move on, I always target another race after such a run to redeem the previous effort out in.

My biggest week on the marathon plan has just been put to bed. 55 mile week.
Tuesday - 6miles very slow recovery with 10x100m strides at the end. Went great.
Wednesday - 12 miles fairly slow. Shitty run, late getting out, hadn't eaten well and struggled through it but was happy to finish it.
Friday  - 12 miles with 7 at Half marathon pace. My Half pace should be 6.50 but struggled to keep it there, was more 7min pace but keep it at manageable pace and 3 easier miles to finish.
Saturday - 4 miles recovery. Legs felt very fresh and was moving better than the Friday.
Sunday  - 21 miles, easy pace. Woke at 7am to get this done. Was worried as been a long week, spent the best part of Saturday on the feet as we hosted a SFC championship double header and hadnt eaten properly until a feed of pasta on Saturday night. And it was lashing down. Took the less is more approach and wore a sleeveless light compression top and very light splash proof jacket that the rain just runs off but has great air gaps and a sun hat to keep the rain off face. Worked brilliantly. Done this solo as regular running buddy had done his on Saturday. Met a few of the lads on the route but all on different paces, directions and lengths (most of them for Dublin).
Run went great, all on my own, no earphones, rained the whole time and very little traffic until back in the town. Done the first 16 in just under 8min pace and planned to pick it up. Went great and found it easier to run at quickly pace that I thought, great to get in a rhythm and having to work. 2x 7.40min, 2x7.20m and final one at 7.18min.

Legs good afterwards and today, can feel it in the legs but moving freely and can't ask more than that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2015, 12:14:47 PM
Well done Seanie. A PB is progress no matter who you look at it.

I seem to be miles and miles off PBs at the moment.  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 24, 2015, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
Well done LL and Seanie. Great to hit PB's regardless of the day itself. The rest done you good LL to clip 11mins off last year, that's over a 1 minute a mile which is a big leap in a year.

The main difference is last year all I did was run mile after mile of long easy paced runs for the Marathon training.
This year I'm doing way more goal pace runs,tempo runs and intervals.
It's really made a huge difference for me.
Half Marathon next,would love to go sub 1:50 but would be happy with a 1:52 or thereabouts which would still be a 10min PB.
Will have to work on hills though as I lost 4 mins over the last 2miles going up the hills to the finish line which is disappointing.

Muppet- Just run the marathon sure..whatever time you get will be a PB!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 24, 2015, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
Well done LL and Seanie. Great to hit PB's regardless of the day itself. The rest done you good LL to clip 11mins off last year, that's over a 1 minute a mile which is a big leap in a year.

The main difference is last year all I did was run mile after mile of long easy paced runs for the Marathon training.
This year I'm doing way more goal pace runs,tempo runs and intervals.
It's really made a huge difference for me.
Half Marathon next,would love to go sub 1:50 but would be happy with a 1:52 or thereabouts which would still be a 10min PB.
Will have to work on hills though as I lost 4 mins over the last 2miles going up the hills to the finish line which is disappointing.

Muppet- Just run the marathon sure..whatever time you get will be a PB!

Very true. I find variation and pushing yourself through different paces really adds the value.

For your half, i'd try and push out to get a 14/15 mile run in once or twice. Just add the extra endurance into the legs for the half distance. Big chunks of time can be lost in the last mile or two, so knowing you have the miles in the legs can be a real boast.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 24, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
Fair play Seanie. Sounds like an ordeal...the auld fella did it once about 10 years ago and still talks about it, mad race. Congrats, doubt many races will ever be as tough as that in the future.

Man Bingo...motoring nicely.
I'm going to have to move my long run to Friday this week as I'm heading to Dublin for the weekend on Saturday morning. Planning a 23 with last few miles nippy and don't fancy sitting into a car for 3 hours and then on pints for the evening. Stomach is usually a bit dodge after a long run so thinking better get it done on the Friday.
Mayo disrupting the training.. :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 24, 2015, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?
They say for every mile you race(run), takes a day to recover fully.

The question is who are "they"? it's probably not taking into account new knowledge of exercise physiology. But I'd take a few days handy after a hard race anyway...day off, day easy is what I usually do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Rest? Did you not get a nice rest on the bike on the way to the start line after a cooling swim to freshen up??  ;)  ;D

Fair play on the triathlon, definite something I want to pursue and keep putting off. Have the first steps planned once I get Berlin outa the way. (IE get the bike fixed up!)

BM generally covers these well and I'd also question "they" with the day rest theory per mile. I'd say go easy for a few days and see how the body feels with a few easy runs.

I raced a 10m race last Sunday (10secs off PB for distance but could have clipped a couple of minutes off pushing it out harder) but put in a big week following it. You've 8 weeks to DCM and in good shape, so no need to force a tough week out. Take it easy and put some easy miles in the legs on Sunday on your LSR if that's the normal routine.
Title: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: No1 on August 24, 2015, 09:09:35 PM
Last plug for the Strangford Festival 10k this Saturday. Online entry closes on Wednesday but you can register on the day. Special guest with the starting pistol is Irish international Ciara Mageean! We have one gaaboard member signed up, would be to great to have a few more!

http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/StrangfordFestival10k2015
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Iceman on August 24, 2015, 09:25:37 PM
Lads a legend of a man from the Orchard County Stevey McGeown will finish his quest to run 100 Marathons in 100 consecutive days this coming Saturday in Gosford Park Armagh. Runners take off at 9am for the final marathon in the series and anyone and everyone is welcome. There will be family fun and opportunities for runners of all abilities to take part.
http://100marathons100days.ie/donate/ (http://100marathons100days.ie/donate/)
You can learn more and donate if possible following the above link.

I can't wrap my head around what it takes to do what Stevey has done but he is the most mentally strong person I've ever met. Please donate if you can but more importantly please show up - have a bit of craic and support this brave man over the line for 2600+ miles in the last 100 days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Weather bad for the Dub tri?? Take at least 3 days off any heavy stuff as the running after the cycle fairly takes it out of you..full distance Tri?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 25, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Weather bad for the Dub tri?? Take at least 3 days off any heavy stuff as the running after the cycle fairly takes it out of you..full distance Tri?

Weather was miserable, got soaked hanging around for a few hours for my wave and had no dry clothes for after!

I did 8k slow this evening as I'm away in a hotel and was getting cabin fever

Olympic distance alright - lots of reports of people being sick from the water, hope I dont have whatever it is
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2015, 11:03:38 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 25, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Weather bad for the Dub tri?? Take at least 3 days off any heavy stuff as the running after the cycle fairly takes it out of you..full distance Tri?

Weather was miserable, got soaked hanging around for a few hours for my wave and had no dry clothes for after!

I did 8k slow this evening as I'm away in a hotel and was getting cabin fever

Olympic distance alright - lots of reports of people being sick from the water, hope I dont have whatever it is

Well done... Back at them next season... Couldn't commit to the training this year due new job and being in England for 7 months... But looking forward to it next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 26, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 25, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Weather bad for the Dub tri?? Take at least 3 days off any heavy stuff as the running after the cycle fairly takes it out of you..full distance Tri?

Weather was miserable, got soaked hanging around for a few hours for my wave and had no dry clothes for after!

I did 8k slow this evening as I'm away in a hotel and was getting cabin fever

Olympic distance alright - lots of reports of people being sick from the water, hope I dont have whatever it is
How'd you find the race Heffo? I was marshalling for it, probably checked ur bike going into transition. miserable day for it. They say the coke straight after the race is the job for killing off whatever u can pick up in the water and the tests of the water showed its the cleanest it had been all year, so hopefully not too many were sick
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on August 26, 2015, 07:42:17 PM

Thinking of getting a shoe with cushioning. I seem to be getting trouble with heel strike the last year. I wear a normal shoe (neutral runner) and have never used stability shoes. My problem seemed to start when I wore a minimalist shoe in a half :'(

Anybody use the Mizuno wave paradox? Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: Walt Jabsco on August 26, 2015, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: No1 on August 24, 2015, 09:09:35 PM
Last plug for the Strangford Festival 10k this Saturday. Online entry closes on Wednesday but you can register on the day. Special guest with the starting pistol is Irish international Ciara Mageean! We have one gaaboard member signed up, would be to great to have a few more!

http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/StrangfordFestival10k2015

Maybe 2!!  No.1    I am signed up but having some issues with a calf strain it may end up with a walk. Its a long time since I done that route with Big Jim
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on August 26, 2015, 09:03:40 PM
Good stuff Walt, give me a shout when you are down. I'll be the boy running about panicking and trying not to roar at people!

Just imagine Big Jim is running alongside you growling and you'll not be long forgetting the calf strain!

Sure I know who it is now! There is no f**king way you'll be walking if John Ta is racing!😀
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 26, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
If your up Saturday moysider call into base2race, Maria mccambridges husband Gary works as part of amphibian king there, couldn't recommend him enough, he'll find the right shoe for u
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 26, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 26, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 25, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Well done lads!

I did Dublin City Triathlon yesterday and am doing DCM - should I rest for a few days or get straight back into it?

Weather bad for the Dub tri?? Take at least 3 days off any heavy stuff as the running after the cycle fairly takes it out of you..full distance Tri?

Weather was miserable, got soaked hanging around for a few hours for my wave and had no dry clothes for after!

I did 8k slow this evening as I'm away in a hotel and was getting cabin fever

Olympic distance alright - lots of reports of people being sick from the water, hope I dont have whatever it is
How'd you find the race Heffo? I was marshalling for it, probably checked ur bike going into transition. miserable day for it. They say the coke straight after the race is the job for killing off whatever u can pick up in the water and the tests of the water showed its the cleanest it had been all year, so hopefully not too many were sick

Loved it, great job done by Piranha, not a nice day for marshalling in that weather!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 26, 2015, 10:24:53 PM
Anyone doing the Dublin half marathon? Looks like great value - I'll do it if Mayo win Sunday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on August 26, 2015, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: No1 on August 26, 2015, 09:03:40 PM
Good stuff Walt, give me a shout when you are down. I'll be the boy running about panicking and trying not to roar at people! I thought that was Rintys job

Just imagine Big Jim is running alongside you growling and you'll not be long forgetting the calf strain! If you did imagine that you would forget everything not just the calf strain- Did you ever do any of his "stamina" sessions? or more commonly  known as commando training   

Sure I know who it is now! There is no f**king way you'll be walking if John Ta is racing!😀 Well I do like a pacer!!
There is so many events on this next week No.1 and would love to do them all Strangford, Bearnagh and the unforgettable Mill Hill Mile where I did indeed finish in front of your neighbour John Ta much to his dismay
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2015, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 26, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
If your up Saturday moysider call into base2race, Maria mccambridges husband Gary works as part of amphibian king there, couldn't recommend him enough, he'll find the right shoe for u

Good man. No plans made yet but that might happen.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 27, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
They're handy enough to get to from the M50, the ballymount exit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 28, 2015, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 26, 2015, 10:24:53 PM
Anyone doing the Dublin half marathon? Looks like great value - I'll do it if Mayo win Sunday
Yeah I'm doing it. We get a finishers medal this year also which I think is great.
I think last year they gave out a hat or something which I never use, would rather the medal.
Great value alright as you get a t shirt as well.
Title: Re: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: Walt Jabsco on August 29, 2015, 08:28:46 PM
Quote from: No1 on August 24, 2015, 09:09:35 PM
Last plug for the Strangford Festival 10k this Saturday. Online entry closes on Wednesday but you can register on the day. Special guest with the starting pistol is Irish international Ciara Mageean! We have one gaaboard member signed up, would be to great to have a few more!

http://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/StrangfordFestival10k2015
Well done on you and your teams organisation of the event - suffering now with the calf strain
It was easier in the dark with Big Jim but then again it was 21 years ago
How many ran? I went to the tide after for a free "ice" bath hope it does some good
You missed the total eclipse at the four roads Danny Burger, Rock and Bruiser were standing in  a line directly in front of the sun. Sunlight only appeared  when one of them moved (but not very far) 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 30, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
So - I did perhaps the most ridiculous thing yesterday. Have had notions of the Dublin marathon but due to various setbacks over the summer I had no miles done at all. Ran 11 miles 4 weeks ago at a good 7.30 pace and was very comfortable at that. Decided to get out yesterday and see if I could manage to get a few miles in to see where I'm at after the enforced break.
Managed 16 miles and am in absolute agony today. I knew as I got to 13 that I was in trouble but kept going for I don't know why! Hips and lower back killing me today and didn't sleep a wink last night. Going to attempt 6 tomorrow and try to aim for 16 again this weekend. Not wise!
Anyone have any tips for recovery to get the pain out of these hips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
Stretch and hydrate cd! Hip flexors, lower back stretches etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on August 30, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: CD on August 30, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
So - I did perhaps the most ridiculous thing yesterday. Have had notions of the Dublin marathon but due to various setbacks over the summer I had no miles done at all. Ran 11 miles 4 weeks ago at a good 7.30 pace and was very comfortable at that. Decided to get out yesterday and see if I could manage to get a few miles in to see where I'm at after the enforced break.
Managed 16 miles and am in absolute agony today. I knew as I got to 13 that I was in trouble but kept going for I don't know why! Hips and lower back killing me today and didn't sleep a wink last night. Going to attempt 6 tomorrow and try to aim for 16 again this weekend. Not wise!
Anyone have any tips for recovery to get the pain out of these hips?

I'm in the middle of getting ready for Dublin as well and went and played a game of indoor on Monday. Would normally play 3 or 4 times a week but hadn't played in 2 months with all the running. Was sore for days - back, shoulders for some reason, legs - wasn't right until Friday. Managed 16 this morning though at 7:50 per mile and not feeling too bad.
Belfast half marathon entry closes tonight for anyone doing it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 31, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 30, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: CD on August 30, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
So - I did perhaps the most ridiculous thing yesterday. Have had notions of the Dublin marathon but due to various setbacks over the summer I had no miles done at all. Ran 11 miles 4 weeks ago at a good 7.30 pace and was very comfortable at that. Decided to get out yesterday and see if I could manage to get a few miles in to see where I'm at after the enforced break.
Managed 16 miles and am in absolute agony today. I knew as I got to 13 that I was in trouble but kept going for I don't know why! Hips and lower back killing me today and didn't sleep a wink last night. Going to attempt 6 tomorrow and try to aim for 16 again this weekend. Not wise!
Anyone have any tips for recovery to get the pain out of these hips?

I'm in the middle of getting ready for Dublin as well and went and played a game of indoor on Monday. Would normally play 3 or 4 times a week but hadn't played in 2 months with all the running. Was sore for days - back, shoulders for some reason, legs - wasn't right until Friday. Managed 16 this morning though at 7:50 per mile and not feeling too bad.
Belfast half marathon entry closes tonight for anyone doing it
Registered last not - thanks for the reminder! Stretched like mad and got a fast 6 miles in today. Back is in bits but it'll clear up in a few days! Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 07, 2015, 10:35:19 AM
Last of the 20milers done yesterday.  ;D

And legs feel surprisingly better today than this time last week when I felt heavy legged and thought I was going to struggle. Was a 52 mile week but as week went on the legs started to loosen out. Did a 10 mile on Wednesday that had 4x1200m at 5km pace and a 11mile run Friday with a few recovery runs in between.

With the heavy legs in back of my mind I ran very easy yesterday with some of the other lads and enjoyed the company and chat on the way round. With 5.5miles to go I pushed on and finished this last bit all below 7.20min pace with last mile under 7mins. So very happy I could finish strong.

Into the semi-taper week with good drop in miles and its mostly faster paced stuff over shorter distances.

Less than 3 weeks to go. Happy days  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on September 08, 2015, 09:43:06 PM
Lucky man Bingo, I still have a couple of 20 milers left to do.  >:(

I'm struggling to get used to carrying/drinking water on the longer runs. Last 20 miler I took a couple of gels and didn't bother with water at all and didn't feel it did me any harm. Any "runners" I've been speaking to since have said water is essential!!

Any thoughts or advice from the good folks on here?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2015, 09:55:52 PM
You will need it on the day so even if you don't feel you need it on a training run it's important to prep the body for the day.

A plan could be to take the car a spin and put water in the ditch at various points if this suits and it avoids carrying it.

Does your body reject it or how do you struggle? Even just take it last few miles to start...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on September 08, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
Good idea about planking a couple of bottles on the training route, not sure if I'll be able to do that in Amsterdam though!  :)

I just can't drink a half decent sip when I'm on the move and I really don't want to stop at all. I realise it's buck stupid but there ya go!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
Really need to practice taking water on the run if you are struggling and practice drinking at the pace you hope to be running during the marathon.
Had a look at the Amsterdam course PDF there, seems to be aid station every 5km...
Can't afford to miss 15km and 20km aid stations, you'll need to be taking on fluid at that point for it to come into affect later in the race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 03:42:30 PM
I'd feel the cost in time of slowing down to get the water onboard would be massively offset by the time lost down the line in the last 5/6 miles if you didn't have the fluid onboard. Getting a drop in at every water station will stand to you.

Practice it and even slow down in these sections if you have to. It will pay for itself on the day.

Berlin presents another problem for the aid stations. Plastic cups! Apparently it can get quite chaotic at the stations and the surface is littered with them causing people to slip. Actually drinking from them is another issue. Been told to get long wide straws and cut them in half. When approaching the aid station, take one out from the belt/pocket and use this to get water onboard. Saves it choking you as it goes down and spilling down the vest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 09, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 08, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
Good idea about planking a couple of bottles on the training route, not sure if I'll be able to do that in Amsterdam though!  :)

I just can't drink a half decent sip when I'm on the move and I really don't want to stop at all. I realise it's buck stupid but there ya go!

I am the same but I've found those sports cap bottles great. Keep taking small sips. It takes longer but I can't manage it any other way. A big gulp of water nearly chokes me when on the run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2015, 03:50:43 PM
Quote from: No1 on September 08, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
Good idea about planking a couple of bottles on the training route, not sure if I'll be able to do that in Amsterdam though!  :)

I just can't drink a half decent sip when I'm on the move and I really don't want to stop at all. I realise it's buck stupid but there ya go!

Lol - I did mean training runs!!

Yeah you will just need to bite the bullet. There will be plenty of water on the course I would say so no need to carry it. Don't know many who carry water in marathons. Your entry fee pays for that stufff...

Belfast plastic cups too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
That's a serious idea Bingo. Must give it a go over next few weeks.
Amsterdam is 5 weeks from this Sunday. Leaves 4 long runs left basically, probably will do an 18 miler 2 weeks before on 4th October. Looking at a 23 or 24 miler on September 26th.
Psychological warfare of a 13.1 mile tempo run yesterday....wasn't in the form and combination of 21 degree heat and skelp of pints over the weekend didn't help either. Managed it thankfully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
That's a serious idea Bingo. Must give it a go over next few weeks.
Amsterdam is 5 weeks from this Sunday. Leaves 4 long runs left basically, probably will do an 18 miler 2 weeks before on 4th October. Looking at a 23 or 24 miler on September 26th.
Psychological warfare of a 13.1 mile tempo run yesterday....wasn't in the form and combination of 21 degree heat and skelp of pints over the weekend didn't help either. Managed it thankfully.

Out of interest (and just to admire) what pace was the tempo run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
That's a serious idea Bingo. Must give it a go over next few weeks.
Amsterdam is 5 weeks from this Sunday. Leaves 4 long runs left basically, probably will do an 18 miler 2 weeks before on 4th October. Looking at a 23 or 24 miler on September 26th.
Psychological warfare of a 13.1 mile tempo run yesterday....wasn't in the form and combination of 21 degree heat and skelp of pints over the weekend didn't help either. Managed it thankfully.

Out of interest (and just to admire) what pace was the tempo run?
6.30 mile average yesterday. September sun and wind was a strange combination. Have to get the body used to dealing with that pace mile after mile.
Going to target 6.15ish miles in marathon to dip under the 2.45 all going well.
Planning an 18 on Saturday with 1 mile warm up....16 at tempo and mile warm down. Cruel but has to be done if have any chance of 2.45
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
How is the body holding up BM? All ok ?

[Edit] That is not intended to cause any paranoia!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
How is the body holding up BM? All ok ?

[Edit] That is not intended to cause any paranoia!
Sore throat from roaring, pints and tshirt at the match last Saturday would be the height of it. Did 21 Saturday morning so immune system took a bit of a hit. No injuries thus far, keeping a close eye on things as you'd expect!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
Happy days. You'll be fine touch wood.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 04:56:07 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
That's a serious idea Bingo. Must give it a go over next few weeks.
Amsterdam is 5 weeks from this Sunday. Leaves 4 long runs left basically, probably will do an 18 miler 2 weeks before on 4th October. Looking at a 23 or 24 miler on September 26th.
Psychological warfare of a 13.1 mile tempo run yesterday....wasn't in the form and combination of 21 degree heat and skelp of pints over the weekend didn't help either. Managed it thankfully.

Out of interest (and just to admire) what pace was the tempo run?
6.30 mile average yesterday. September sun and wind was a strange combination. Have to get the body used to dealing with that pace mile after mile.
Going to target 6.15ish miles in marathon to dip under the 2.45 all going well.
Planning an 18 on Saturday with 1 mile warm up....16 at tempo and mile warm down. Cruel but has to be done if have any chance of 2.45

Fair play. That's tight going. Fingers crossed it all goes to plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on September 09, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Although I wouldn't be able to run out of my road I'm drawn to this thread like a moth to a light every time there is a new post on it,  despite being a right boring bunch of bastards you appear to be doing great things on here. Keep up the good work  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 09, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Although I wouldn't be able to run out of my road I'm drawn to this thread like a moth to a light every time there is a new post on it,  despite being a right boring bunch of b**tards you appear to be doing great things on here. Keep up the good work  ;D
I'd steer clear as long as you can, once the running gets you you're fcuked, addicted....have to be a bit cracked in the head.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 09, 2015, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 09, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Although I wouldn't be able to run out of my road I'm drawn to this thread like a moth to a light every time there is a new post on it,  despite being a right boring bunch of b**tards you appear to be doing great things on here. Keep up the good work  ;D

You'll be running when the renowned coach of many years experience comes after you for questioning his judgement from his years of watching youtube compilations. (I think he might actually be on the Liverpool transfer committee).

Its a zen like peaceful thread here, no trolling, no wind ups, no one looking a reaction. Just a good source of info, encouragement and advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 09, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Anyone recommend trail runs/paths around or near Dublin?
Would like to try something different after the Dublin half marathon is over with a view to maybe doing one of the Gaelforce events next year.
I'm guessing the Wicklow mountains or Howth/Bray head and places.
What about the Sugarloaf would there be trails you could run there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 09, 2015, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Anyone recommend trail runs/paths around or near Dublin?
Would like to try something different after the Dublin half marathon is over with a view to maybe doing one of the Gaelforce events next year.
I'm guessing the Wicklow mountains or Howth/Bray head and places.
What about the Sugarloaf would there be trails you could run there?
I used to run the grand canal tow path from drumcondra out to maynooth...good run. Gets a bit off road by Coolmine.

There is defo a hill trail near marlay park...think it's called tree rock or something like that. Heffo would be the man to ask I reckon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 10, 2015, 06:44:16 AM
This running game messes with your head!! I haven't really been running much in the last few months, have been concentrating on more high intensity training in conjunction with getting out on the bike.

Had a free Saturday with no (well, not many) beers on Friday night so I decided I'd go and do a parkrun. Now this was only my fifth parkrun of all time, with my PB coming in my second run back in february. I was 18 seconds off that time, coming in at an agonising 25:01.

The difference in feeling coming in under 25 to coming in just over 25 is incredible, and was really highlighted when my gf couldn't get her head around why I was disappointed. She seems to think it's the same as getting sub-25, but it's just not.

Anyhow, on reflection, am happy enough with the return versus relatively low input into my running - not in the same class as some of the speedsters out there, but happily plodding along and not regressing (much)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 10, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on September 10, 2015, 06:44:16 AM
This running game messes with your head!! I haven't really been running much in the last few months, have been concentrating on more high intensity training in conjunction with getting out on the bike.

Had a free Saturday with no (well, not many) beers on Friday night so I decided I'd go and do a parkrun. Now this was only my fifth parkrun of all time, with my PB coming in my second run back in february. I was 18 seconds off that time, coming in at an agonising 25:01.

The difference in feeling coming in under 25 to coming in just over 25 is incredible, and was really highlighted when my gf couldn't get her head around why I was disappointed. She seems to think it's the same as getting sub-25, but it's just not.

Anyhow, on reflection, am happy enough with the return versus relatively low input into my running - not in the same class as some of the speedsters out there, but happily plodding along and not regressing (much)

Tell her it's just like almost bringing her flowers and ask her is it the same.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 13, 2015, 11:24:20 AM
Just watching the Great North Run on BBC.
Anyone ever done it?
Just thinking to myself that a few years ago I would have turned this off thinking they were all mad wanting to run 13 miles,now I wish I was doing it and looking forward to running the Dublin half next Saturday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 13, 2015, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Anyone recommend trail runs/paths around or near Dublin?
Would like to try something different after the Dublin half marathon is over with a view to maybe doing one of the Gaelforce events next year.
I'm guessing the Wicklow mountains or Howth/Bray head and places.
What about the Sugarloaf would there be trails you could run there?

Cruagh wood normal trail is about 4.6k - thats just past viewpoint.

Running from Greystones beach to the end of the beach at Bray going via the cliff trail is 10k - very enjoyable run
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 14, 2015, 09:54:46 AM
Official Taper period has now commenced!

Last week saw a drop off in distance but was still a bit to get through. 4 miles Friday, 8 miles Saturday under MP and then 16 yesterday which was largely easy miles but finished with 5 good miles round MP.

All in all, a good week and legs feel good. Got a good hour rubout on Wednesday night and it really loosened out the tight spots and done the job. Legs felt very good on Saturday when I pushed the pace a bit, they had struggled previously.

A few runs this week with mix of easy and short fast work. A 11/12 mile on sunday and nearly there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 14, 2015, 01:51:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Anyone recommend trail runs/paths around or near Dublin?
Would like to try something different after the Dublin half marathon is over with a view to maybe doing one of the Gaelforce events next year.
I'm guessing the Wicklow mountains or Howth/Bray head and places.
What about the Sugarloaf would there be trails you could run there?

The perimeter of Malahide Castle is about 4k. You can make it almost 5k by doing a loop around the cricket club. It is a nice run with one or two hills, but nothing steep. The missus & kids can wander into the cafe, shop or playground while you go for your run. Loads of parking too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on September 14, 2015, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 14, 2015, 01:51:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 09, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Anyone recommend trail runs/paths around or near Dublin?
Would like to try something different after the Dublin half marathon is over with a view to maybe doing one of the Gaelforce events next year.
I'm guessing the Wicklow mountains or Howth/Bray head and places.
What about the Sugarloaf would there be trails you could run there?

The perimeter of Malahide Castle is about 4k. You can make it almost 5k by doing a loop around the cricket club. It is a nice run with one or two hills, but nothing steep. The missus & kids can wander into the cafe, shop or playground while you go for your run. Loads of parking too.

Then a savage feed in Avoca afterwards!! :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
PB today at my local parkrun... Haven't ran in a while at any races and was just going to pace my daughter round but she brought her friend and I was never going to run with the wife.. I put her off  :-\

So I went at it, perfect conditions today no real breeze temperature hood bit overcast... Parkruns can be so competitive at the front and fun at the back ... I'm in Between one or two runners running my pace the better ones ahead and I'm never catching them ... 180 runners came in at 32 and first in my age category!! With a whopping one second better off from my previous best time at that course!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 19, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
Dublin half Marathon today. I was going great guns through the course until some fella clipped my heel and I fell off the kerb and done my ankle in. Walked the last 5 miles to the finish.

Was sitting here feeling sorry for myself until I read the awful news that a 23 year old male runner collapsed and died a few hundred yards from the finish line.
I saw a bit of commotion as I came to the finish but never thought anything like that.
RIP to the poor lad.

That's the second time in 3 years someone has died running the Dublin half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
That is brutal...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 19, 2015, 09:24:37 PM
Terrible news about the death of the runner today. Never nice to hear.

Tough luck today LL. frustrating that but pales considering how the race finished for that poor lad.

One of local runners went over on a dropped bottle at 5mile mark and done his ankle. In bad shape and this fella was on course for his first marathon in Dublin in a few weeks. All in doubt now but again not the worse news today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 20, 2015, 03:01:21 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 19, 2015, 09:24:37 PM
Terrible news about the death of the runner today. Never nice to hear.

Tough luck today LL. frustrating that but pales considering how the race finished for that poor lad.

One of local runners went over on a dropped bottle at 5mile mark and done his ankle. In bad shape and this fella was on course for his first marathon in Dublin in a few weeks. All in doubt now but again not the worse news today.
100℅ correct Bingo. I was disappointed, was on for a sub 1:50 at that stage which would have been huge for me but when I heard the news of that poor youngfella it put everything into perspective.
I can do another half Marathon anytime. Its hard to take in that a chap out running,keeping fit, can just die like that.

The bottles were a problem today alright. It was like an obstacle course trying to avoid them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on September 20, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
Just in from Belfast half marathon. Headed off this morning hoping for around 1:40 and would've been delighted with 1:35.

I was back behind the 2 hour pacers for the start but made it quickly enough past them and the 1:45 pacers - maybe a bit too quickly, I started to worry at about 3 mile that I'd gone off a bit too quick. I felt good though so kept the pace. Runkeeper was telling me I was running at 7:12 per mile but I was hearing the miles on the phone about 40 seconds before getting to the mile marker on the road.

Anyway, felt strong the whole way and finished up at just over 1 hour 33 minutes. Didn't think I had that in me and my last 4 miles were the fastest all under 6:55 so I'm delighted. I'll enjoy a few pints today and then back at it on Tuesday to get ready for DCM.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 20, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
Super running points! just in myself. I ran it as part of a long slow run so did 5 beforehand and hit the start line just as they were taking off - ran the first half with a couple of mates at 8.40 pace which is our DCM pace. Loved the disciplin of running the exact pace for 8 miles. Got a bit restless going through the city and kicked on - got faster every mile and finished with a comfortable 7 minute mile. The first run I've ever ran as planned and stuck to the programme which was important for me psychologically. Never felt tired at any stage and got stronger as I went on. Finished in 1:47 which is well outside my best but spot on in the context of the bigger picture! Got 12 done yesterday so a good weekend for me. Planning to do 20 this coming weekend and if that goes well I'll apply for Dublin!
Very good event - excellent organisation and loved the course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: CD on September 20, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
Super running points! just in myself. I ran it as part of a long slow run so did 5 beforehand and hit the start line just as they were taking off - ran the first half with a couple of mates at 8.40 pace which is our DCM pace. Loved the disciplin of running the exact pace for 8 miles. Got a bit restless going through the city and kicked on - got faster every mile and finished with a comfortable 7 minute mile. The first run I've ever ran as planned and stuck to the programme which was important for me psychologically. Never felt tired at any stage and got stronger as I went on. Finished in 1:47 which is well outside my best but spot on in the context of the bigger picture! Got 12 done yesterday so a good weekend for me. Planning to do 20 this coming weekend and if that goes well I'll apply for Dublin!
Very good event - excellent organisation and loved the course.

Well CD and TYP's.... Few friends out doing it today also, weather seemed great for it too... At this rate you'll be ready for DCM
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on September 20, 2015, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: CD on September 20, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
Super running points! just in myself. I ran it as part of a long slow run so did 5 beforehand and hit the start line just as they were taking off - ran the first half with a couple of mates at 8.40 pace which is our DCM pace. Loved the disciplin of running the exact pace for 8 miles. Got a bit restless going through the city and kicked on - got faster every mile and finished with a comfortable 7 minute mile. The first run I've ever ran as planned and stuck to the programme which was important for me psychologically. Never felt tired at any stage and got stronger as I went on. Finished in 1:47 which is well outside my best but spot on in the context of the bigger picture! Got 12 done yesterday so a good weekend for me. Planning to do 20 this coming weekend and if that goes well I'll apply for Dublin!
Very good event - excellent organisation and loved the course.

Good going, well done. Agree about the course and organisation. I haven't done too many events like that but it seemed very flat. The only thing I wasn't too sure about was in round cornmarket- I don't know if they'd been washing the street or what but the ground was wet and felt slippy. That's being picky though - really enjoyed it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 21, 2015, 09:35:25 AM
Brilliant running everyone.

So sad to hear about that young lad. RIP.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Hard to believe this day next week, Berlin will be all over. It was this time last year I entered and, like everything, you just wonder where the time has gone.

A fairly easy week just gone, 12 miles run yesterday at easy pace on a lovely Sunday morning. About 30miles in total. A lot less this week and anything done will be sharper and shorter. Will have a fairly busy week at work and with travel at weekend the goal is to get to the start line as fresh as possible. Sleep and eat well all week.

To help with the Taper madness, was in Croke Park yesterday, great seats, minor match was great. Five rows behind the Kerry Mgt on  the pitch. Could reach over and touch (if I wanted) the Kerry team as they watched the minor team. Then the rain started. Feel very badly let down by Accu weather app  >:( Wasn't prepared. Stayed under covers and eventually Eleverys produced more panchos. Kept me largely dry bar the feet and some water that got in on the arse of the jeans. Dreading a cold now and am overdosing on fruit, hot sweet drinks and water.  :( #prayforme
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 21, 2015, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Hard to believe this day next week, Berlin will be all over. It was this time last year I entered and, like everything, you just wonder where the time has gone.

A fairly easy week just gone, 12 miles run yesterday at easy pace on a lovely Sunday morning. About 30miles in total. A lot less this week and anything done will be sharper and shorter. Will have a fairly busy week at work and with travel at weekend the goal is to get to the start line as fresh as possible. Sleep and eat well all week.

To help with the Taper madness, was in Croke Park yesterday, great seats, minor match was great. Five rows behind the Kerry Mgt on  the pitch. Could reach over and touch (if I wanted) the Kerry team as they watched the minor team. Then the rain started. Feel very badly let down by Accu weather app  >:( Wasn't prepared. Stayed under covers and eventually Eleverys produced more panchos. Kept me largely dry bar the feet and some water that got in on the arse of the jeans. Dreading a cold now and am overdosing on fruit, hot sweet drinks and water.  :( #prayforme

I got a worse drenching. Couldn't find one of those ponchos for love nor money. Thought I was reasonably well togged out but wasn't ready for that amount of rain. Straight into Dunnes in Henry Street for a full new set of clothes afterwards, every stich was saturated. Worst All Ireland final ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
PB today at my local parkrun... Haven't ran in a while at any races and was just going to pace my daughter round but she brought her friend and I was never going to run with the wife.. I put her off  :-\

So I went at it, perfect conditions today no real breeze temperature hood bit overcast... Parkruns can be so competitive at the front and fun at the back ... I'm in Between one or two runners running my pace the better ones ahead and I'm never catching them ... 180 runners came in at 32 and first in my age category!! With a whopping one second better off from my previous best time at that course!!

MR2,
   What's the youngest age of a child you can take to run the 5K at these events?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 21, 2015, 02:39:50 PM
I don't think there is a limit for the park runs. I see my nephews at 8 doing them
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2015, 02:43:18 PM
They must be 4 or over and if they're under 11 they must be accompanied by an adult the whole way round...

There was actually an incident in one in australia the other week where someone tried to snatch a kid runnin git.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 03:27:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 21, 2015, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Hard to believe this day next week, Berlin will be all over. It was this time last year I entered and, like everything, you just wonder where the time has gone.

A fairly easy week just gone, 12 miles run yesterday at easy pace on a lovely Sunday morning. About 30miles in total. A lot less this week and anything done will be sharper and shorter. Will have a fairly busy week at work and with travel at weekend the goal is to get to the start line as fresh as possible. Sleep and eat well all week.

To help with the Taper madness, was in Croke Park yesterday, great seats, minor match was great. Five rows behind the Kerry Mgt on  the pitch. Could reach over and touch (if I wanted) the Kerry team as they watched the minor team. Then the rain started. Feel very badly let down by Accu weather app  >:( Wasn't prepared. Stayed under covers and eventually Eleverys produced more panchos. Kept me largely dry bar the feet and some water that got in on the arse of the jeans. Dreading a cold now and am overdosing on fruit, hot sweet drinks and water.  :( #prayforme

I got a worse drenching. Couldn't find one of those ponchos for love nor money. Thought I was reasonably well togged out but wasn't ready for that amount of rain. Straight into Dunnes in Henry Street for a full new set of clothes afterwards, every stich was saturated. Worst All Ireland final ever.

Shocking! Don't feel as bad now. I hit elverys lucky on a second visit and they got mobbed pretty quickly. Before that they where selling anything rain resistant and doing well. One fella just behind me landed in with sunglasses, jeans and a pale blue shirt and about 10 pints in him. He was a sorry sight by the end of the game and he kinda figured he was frigged for rest of the day. I'd say he hit Dunnes as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D
Yep they were giving that rain all week for Sunday  ;D

Best of luck at weekend Bingo. Is there anywhere we can track you like you can in the Dublin marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D

Not by my accu weather app that is genuinely spot. Checked before I left the house, chance of a shower round 5pm it said. Took the risk and a light jacket.  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D
Yep they were giving that rain all week for Sunday  ;D

Best of luck at weekend Bingo. Is there anywhere we can track you like you can in the Dublin marathon?

Cheers LL (apart from  the weather, why didn't you tell me, could have sworn I seen you coming out of the hill yesterday in your Dub jersey, singing Molly Malone  ;) )

I think you can track runners alright but its through their App, which is free. Paris was the same and seems to be the way they doing it now rather than online.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
yr.no is the man for weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on September 21, 2015, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D

Not by my accu weather app that is genuinely spot. Checked before I left the house, chance of a shower round 5pm it said. Took the risk and a light jacket.  >:(

My Weather Channel App knew the score, 80% chance of rain from 2PM on. Mind you I still watched the game in my shirt sleeves ;-)#softseats
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D
Yep they were giving that rain all week for Sunday  ;D

Best of luck at weekend Bingo. Is there anywhere we can track you like you can in the Dublin marathon?

Cheers LL (apart from  the weather, why didn't you tell me, could have sworn I seen you coming out of the hill yesterday in your Dub jersey, singing Molly Malone  ;) )

I think you can track runners alright but its through their App, which is free. Paris was the same and seems to be the way they doing it now rather than online.
Yeah that was me alright, I'm the guy painted all in blue.Sure if you can't bate them you may as well join them.
Alive, alive oh.....!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 21, 2015, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D

Not by my accu weather app that is genuinely spot. Checked before I left the house, chance of a shower round 5pm it said. Took the risk and a light jacket.  >:(

My Weather Channel App knew the score, 80% chance of rain from 2PM on. Mind you I still watched the game in my shirt sleeves ;-)#softseats

You could have told me.  ;) Four rows back and I'd have been eating ice cream. #fineline
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 21, 2015, 05:29:20 PM
I walked over from Quinns about 2pm and it wasn't raining. I was expecting rain but not a deluge.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 21, 2015, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Lads was it not widely forecast that it was to pish for most of Sunday? #amateurhour  :D
Yep they were giving that rain all week for Sunday  ;D

Best of luck at weekend Bingo. Is there anywhere we can track you like you can in the Dublin marathon?

Cheers LL (apart from  the weather, why didn't you tell me, could have sworn I seen you coming out of the hill yesterday in your Dub jersey, singing Molly Malone  ;) )

I think you can track runners alright but its through their App, which is free. Paris was the same and seems to be the way they doing it now rather than online.
Yeah that was me alright, I'm the guy painted all in blue.Sure if you can't bate them you may as well join them.
Alive, alive oh.....!
Dya see that fella again with the his 2 kids with blue paint and plastic ponchos yesterday..tantamount to child abuse going out in that weather like that!

Great running by taker yer points and CD, fair play!

Good man Bingo, you're in good nick and the immune system should hold up after yesterday.  This week will drag no doubt for ya!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2015, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
PB today at my local parkrun... Haven't ran in a while at any races and was just going to pace my daughter round but she brought her friend and I was never going to run with the wife.. I put her off  :-\

So I went at it, perfect conditions today no real breeze temperature hood bit overcast... Parkruns can be so competitive at the front and fun at the back ... I'm in Between one or two runners running my pace the better ones ahead and I'm never catching them ... 180 runners came in at 32 and first in my age category!! With a whopping one second better off from my previous best time at that course!!

MR2,
   What's the youngest age of a child you can take to run the 5K at these events?

As tommy said under 11's must be arms length but 11 up are fine on their own
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 21, 2015, 10:06:50 PM
Good luck Bingo! Hope that cold has stayed at bay!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 22, 2015, 10:13:42 AM
Weather watch

http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/long.html (http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/long.html)

Not too bad at all but could change and get warm/sunny in later part of race.

Cold watch

Nothing to report.

:)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 25, 2015, 10:59:16 AM
Weather Watch

http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html)

If it can hold like that I'd be delighted. Bit more cloud cover now than last few days will keep the sun away and the temp down. No wind. Last few days it had shown a bit more sun and higher temps.

Cold watch.

Dodged the bullet I think  :P Odd sniffle but nothing to report.

Week flew in and hard to beat a busy week at work to pass the time. Kids to be dropped to Nanny's this evening, bag to be packed (checklist is prepared) and an early night to catch some sleep before an early start tomorrow.

Only downer is that I will be missing the quarter final of the championship tomorrow, so be clued to twitter tomorrow for that.

Heres hoping for a successful weekend all round!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on September 25, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 25, 2015, 10:59:16 AM
Weather Watch

http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html)

If it can hold like that I'd be delighted. Bit more cloud cover now than last few days will keep the sun away and the temp down. No wind. Last few days it had shown a bit more sun and higher temps.

Cold watch.

Dodged the bullet I think  :P Odd sniffle but nothing to report.

Week flew in and hard to beat a busy week at work to pass the time. Kids to be dropped to Nanny's this evening, bag to be packed (checklist is prepared) and an early night to catch some sleep before an early start tomorrow.

Only downer is that I will be missing the quarter final of the championship tomorrow, so be clued to twitter tomorrow for that.

Heres hoping for a successful weekend all round!

All the best, enjoy it! Looking forward to the report on Monday or Tuesday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 25, 2015, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on September 25, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 25, 2015, 10:59:16 AM
Weather Watch

http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html (http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html)

If it can hold like that I'd be delighted. Bit more cloud cover now than last few days will keep the sun away and the temp down. No wind. Last few days it had shown a bit more sun and higher temps.

Cold watch.

Dodged the bullet I think  :P Odd sniffle but nothing to report.

Week flew in and hard to beat a busy week at work to pass the time. Kids to be dropped to Nanny's this evening, bag to be packed (checklist is prepared) and an early night to catch some sleep before an early start tomorrow.

Only downer is that I will be missing the quarter final of the championship tomorrow, so be clued to twitter tomorrow for that.

Heres hoping for a successful weekend all round!

All the best, enjoy it! Looking forward to the report on Monday or Tuesday
+1
Best of luck Bingo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 25, 2015, 01:57:13 PM
Good luck Bingo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 25, 2015, 01:59:39 PM
Cheers lads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 25, 2015, 08:22:03 PM
Best of luck Bingo!

Anyone doing Athlone 3/4 marathon Sunday week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on September 25, 2015, 08:30:36 PM
Go hard Bingo. Do the county proud.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on September 27, 2015, 09:35:59 AM
Best of luck Bingo. Good article by Ian O'Riordan in the Irish Times yesterday on the Berlin marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Amyone tracking bingo??

No wr time today but nine irish guys on for olympic qualifying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on September 27, 2015, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Amyone tracking bingo??

No wr time today but nine irish guys on for olympic qualifying.

He gone through 25km in 1:54:52
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
Cheers.

Four irish guys finished in under 2:16.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 27, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
Cheers.

Four irish guys finished in under 2:16.
Did Sean Hehir?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 10:48:55 AM
No
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 27, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
Any word on bingo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 27, 2015, 12:43:08 PM
Bingo home and hosed! 3.16.48, set out on 3.15 pace and was ahead of that for long time but two 8min miles is last five put paid to that.

Still delighted with  a 5min PB and it an unreal experience running in such an event. Amazing experience.

In a cafe with WiFi so said I'd say hello. Cheers for all the messages.

No doubt I'll have a bit more to post on it later  ;)

Time for one of tho'se big beers, a stein I think it's called and a big German sausage!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 27, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Good stuff Bingo
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 27, 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Man Bingo!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 27, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
Great stuff bingo delighted for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on September 27, 2015, 02:01:37 PM
Now if Liverpool will only improve.  Maybe Sturrige should train for a marathon to maintain his fitness.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 27, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
Amazing Bingo! Respect!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 27, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
Brilliant running Bingo, well done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 08:09:47 PM
Well done bingo!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 30, 2015, 03:16:37 PM
Haven't posted in here in ages, some serious runners in here now, I am running the Galway half on Saturday, hoping to break my PB of 1.50, i have a big awards night out the night before so we will see how it goes. I have signed up for Sea to Summit as well, dont know what to expect, it will be my first adventure race and am really looking forward to it, i have signed up for the supreme, have any of you done it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 30, 2015, 05:30:58 PM
Just in case anyone should might miss it, entry for Dublin Marathon closes tomorrow at 5pm. Surprising how people are training for it now and will actually miss the registration cut-off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 01, 2015, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 27, 2015, 12:43:08 PM
Bingo home and hosed! 3.16.48, set out on 3.15 pace and was ahead of that for long time but two 8min miles is last five put paid to that.

Still delighted with  a 5min PB and it an unreal experience running in such an event. Amazing experience.

In a cafe with WiFi so said I'd say hello. Cheers for all the messages.

No doubt I'll have a bit more to post on it later  ;)

Time for one of tho'se big beers, a stein I think it's called and a big German sausage!

Fair play Bingo well done.

Now for that 3 hour barrier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on October 01, 2015, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 30, 2015, 05:30:58 PM
Just in case anyone should might miss it, entry for Dublin Marathon closes tomorrow at 5pm. Surprising how people are training for it now and will actually miss the registration cut-off.

Thats a bit of a shame.  I ran Berlin on Sunday and was hoping to see how I felt this weekend before deciding whether or not to enter.  I guess they have to cut it off sometime.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 01, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 01, 2015, 03:42:58 PM

Fair play Bingo well done.

Now for that 3 hour barrier!

That will take some doing but never say never.

Quote from: mb80b60 on October 01, 2015, 03:50:10 PM

Thats a bit of a shame.  I ran Berlin on Sunday and was hoping to see how I felt this weekend before deciding whether or not to enter.  I guess they have to cut it off sometime.

Yeah, its a close call but I took the leap and will run it, what the pace will be will be decided over the coming weeks.

How did you find Berlin?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 01, 2015, 08:16:59 PM
Anyone get word back from London marathon? They sending out emails if you've got in or not.
I haven't got anything back yet...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 08:35:26 PM
I got an email saying I didn't get in which I'm not that upset about tbh!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 01, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 08:35:26 PM
I got an email saying I didn't get in which I'm not that upset about tbh!
Checked by junk mail there and got the same one. Meh..might leave them for a couple of years after Amsterdam.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 01, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 08:35:26 PM
I got an email saying I didn't get in which I'm not that upset about tbh!
Checked by junk mail there and got the same one. Meh..might leave them for a couple of years after Amsterdam.
I plan on doing Dublin 2016.
The year after that I'll be turning 40 so would love to do one abroad to mark turning 40. The New York marathon is around the time of my birthday(November) so doing that would be great but I hear its also difficult to get into as its also a lottery.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on October 01, 2015, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 01, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 01, 2015, 08:35:26 PM
I got an email saying I didn't get in which I'm not that upset about tbh!
Checked by junk mail there and got the same one. Meh..might leave them for a couple of years after Amsterdam.
I plan on doing Dublin 2016.
The year after that I'll be turning 40 so would love to do one abroad to mark turning 40. The New York marathon is around the time of my birthday(November) so doing that would be great but I hear its also difficult to get into as its also a lottery.

If you use a tour company (eg. http://sportstravelinternational.com/) then you will get guaranteed entry (and pay for the privilege)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mb80b60 on October 01, 2015, 10:20:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 01, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 01, 2015, 03:42:58 PM

Fair play Bingo well done.

Now for that 3 hour barrier!

That will take some doing but never say never.

Quote from: mb80b60 on October 01, 2015, 03:50:10 PM

Thats a bit of a shame.  I ran Berlin on Sunday and was hoping to see how I felt this weekend before deciding whether or not to enter.  I guess they have to cut it off sometime.

Yeah, its a close call but I took the leap and will run it, what the pace will be will be decided over the coming weeks.

How did you find Berlin?

It was my first marathon so I don't have a lot to compare it to... but I thought it was fantastic.  There was great support the whole way and I found the stations well stocked.  It was very flat and the weather was perfect.  I've seen some people complain about the cups of water but I didn't find it an issue (I was hoping for a sub 5 hour so it didn't bother me to stop and sip it).  The bag drop was well enough signposted I thought.  I finished in 4.53 which I was delighted to get and I'll definitely run more marathons now.  I'd highly recommend Berlin to a first timer.  What did you think?  You were going for a much quicker time...... did you find the stations problematic?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
Fair play to you mb80b60.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: majestic on October 02, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
Lads, I have a running question. I have started my pre preseason training. Hoping to get in good running shape  to play 60 minutes of football by April 2016. I am currently running 400m (100m shuttles). Doing two session of 6x400m, and will increase the number of reps as the weeks go on.

My question is surrounding recovery and pace. I thought a decent target for a base level of fitness would be a 5K in 22 mins. So through some quick research online, it said that i should be doing my 400m in around 90s, recovery, then repeat.

However I find that I am doing the first one in about 80s, then they drop off fairly steeply, to 90,95 sort of area. I take 2/3 mins recovery between each run.

Should I try and pace myself more to get more in at under the 90s and be strict with recovery time or should I run each one as hard as possible, and take more recovery? Looking for the quickest way to improve fitness levels.
Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Strict with the recovery time. It challenges the body to remove lactic acid and then use it as an energy source.
Even spread of splits with a gradual reduction in recovery time...5 second reduction every 2-3 weeks once you can maintain even splits across the session.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
Rule of thumb with intervals...

First and last intervals should be the same pace.

As bm says you should discipline recovery. It gets the body used to working with lactic etc.

You'll take longer seeing the benefits if you don't stay even.

In addition another good rule is not to take a target time and do intervals on it. If you can run a 22 5k fair enough though if not work out interval pace at what you can -currently- do a 5k at.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: majestic on October 02, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Strict with the recovery time. It challenges the body to remove lactic acid and then use it as an energy source.
Even spread of splits with a gradual reduction in recovery time...5 second reduction every 2-3 weeks once you can maintain even splits across the session.

Thanks guys - great advice. I will have to adjust my target times (allowing for current 5K pace) few other question:

What would you say a good goal would be in terms of maintaining the split time? for a 400m (with 3 turns)? and in terms of reps per session, and maximum recovery time? (im thinking long term goals that would provide a decent level of fitness for football)

For example, would you say a session consisting of 8x400m at 85s, with 60s rest is achieveable over the next couple of months?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 04:11:34 PM


As bm says pull the recovery in as you go along.

I would say start at 90ish and find your sweet spot where you can maintain it across 8 reps. You are better starting slow and if it's too slow just speed up as you go along.

Once you get stronger and adapt to your pace pull recovery in.

If you are going from 80 to 90+ i would start about 91/92 a rep for you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Lads a bit of advice.

After doing Berlin, I'm in for Dublin. Was in two minds but the missus is doing it now and wants me to do it, not with her but just to take part. It was always in the back of the mind with Berlin and a 4 week gap between them, many seem to take on the two.

Anyways, I haven't done anything since between travel, the run and everything I felt jaded all week and a dull dehydrated feeling. Better yesterday, so will go for a short recover run this evening and do a bit over the weekend. Plan to do a bit more light runs over the weekend.

Plan then to do a bit more next week, more the following week (few 7/8 miles midweek, bit of speed stuff and maybe 12/13 at the weekend) and then taper for the week before it. Kinda take it by feel and see how the legs go.

Does this seem ok? Not sure of the marathon pace itself until closer the date but already have it in my head to at least chase a Dublin PB (3.21). Given everything is this advisable or even doable? I do appreciate that it will very much depend on the recovery but as it stands the legs feel very strong again and I'm itching to get for a run this evening to see just how good they are.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on October 01, 2015, 10:20:53 PM

It was my first marathon so I don't have a lot to compare it to... but I thought it was fantastic.  There was great support the whole way and I found the stations well stocked.  It was very flat and the weather was perfect.  I've seen some people complain about the cups of water but I didn't find it an issue (I was hoping for a sub 5 hour so it didn't bother me to stop and sip it).  The bag drop was well enough signposted I thought.  I finished in 4.53 which I was delighted to get and I'll definitely run more marathons now.  I'd highly recommend Berlin to a first timer.  What did you think?  You were going for a much quicker time...... did you find the stations problematic?

Fair play mb80b60 (the name just rolls off the tongue!).

Much like you, I didn't have too much of an issue at the stations. Nearer the end was a few bumps with people suddenly stopping but I think that I was tired at that stage and the concentration levels where dropping, managed great though and I used straws from my belt to drink from the cups and it was brilliant. Got a full glass onboard at ease at every station. Really helped as it was warm and humid.

Great atmosphere all the way and for the numbers involved couldn't fault the organisation. Would defo recommend it to anyone. I prepaid for the t-shirts and glad I did, they great Adidas gear and one of them in GAA club colours which was a sign when I collected it Saturday as they where playing in a championship quarter final that afternoon and they won.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 04:26:42 PM
Definitely achievable Bingo. Wouldn't have any experience of doing marathons in succession myself but that seems like a reasonable plan. I know a lad who ran a 3.12 in Brighton this year and a 2.57 the week after in London having never got below 3.04 before then.. Rest up and ease back into it for 2 weeks. Few marathon pace miles in week 3 and taper week 4.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: majestic on October 02, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Strict with the recovery time. It challenges the body to remove lactic acid and then use it as an energy source.
Even spread of splits with a gradual reduction in recovery time...5 second reduction every 2-3 weeks once you can maintain even splits across the session.

Thanks guys - great advice. I will have to adjust my target times (allowing for current 5K pace) few other question:

What would you say a good goal would be in terms of maintaining the split time? for a 400m (with 3 turns)? and in terms of reps per session, and maximum recovery time? (im thinking long term goals that would provide a decent level of fitness for football)

For example, would you say a session consisting of 8x400m at 85s, with 60s rest is achieveable over the next couple of months?
I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but should you not be doing a few longer slower runs also rather than all intervals? Maybe you are already.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
 I'm not sure how I'll carry the staws bingo. Did you use thick ones ya?
Planning on having 2 gels...that's what I've practiced with at mile 10 and 18. Have a zip pocket in shorts at back and will carry other in hand until mile 10.
Don't have a belt...well I did but it was robbed after I left it on bonnet of car in Phoenix park before...pricks! Only use 2 gels so don't think it's needed.

Paper cups in Amsterdam, fair enough as bottles can't be dangerous with that volume of runners as LL found out in the national half marathon.
Watched a go pro video of Amsterdam race last year on YouTube...they give out half bananas. Practiced trying to eat one at 6.15 mile pace the last day...not easy with the breathing! Will be an emergency plan if blowing black smoke in last 3 or 4 mile!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 04:57:57 PM
Question unrelated to running as i know some of you be in phoenix park running...

Where is handiest to park for zoo? Are there car parks in there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 04:57:57 PM
Question unrelated to running as i know some of you be in phoenix park running...

Where is handiest to park for zoo? Are there car parks in there?
Depending on the time of the day you should get parking on the side of the road of Chesterfield Avenue, especially if you drive up a little bit past the Zoo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 05:05:29 PM
Cheers Ll.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2015, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
I'm not sure how I'll carry the staws bingo. Did you use thick ones ya?
Planning on having 2 gels...that's what I've practiced with at mile 10 and 18. Have a zip pocket in shorts at back and will carry other in hand until mile 10.
Don't have a belt...well I did but it was robbed after I left it on bonnet of car in Phoenix park before...pricks! Only use 2 gels so don't think it's needed.

Paper cups in Amsterdam, fair enough as bottles can't be dangerous with that volume of runners as LL found out in the national half marathon.
Watched a go pro video of Amsterdam race last year on YouTube...they give out half bananas. Practiced trying to eat one at 6.15 mile pace the last day...not easy with the breathing! Will be an emergency plan if blowing black smoke in last 3 or 4 mile!

I used a flip belt for the gels and straws. They are an ingenius thing in my opinion and I seen the Run Hub advertising them last night on facebook/twitter. In training I rarely used gels bar twice just to ensure that the stomach could handle them. But I ran a few times with it on and gels in it, just to get used to it.

Never knew it was there. Had the straws tucked in the front of it and worked great, just fished it out approaching the water station and put it back in after dumping the cup. Water went down very quick as it was controlled through the straw.

I used a normal enough straw with a bendy bit. I had about 6 straws (cut to size of the cup) but I only used one of them the whole run.

Not sure what you speedsters would like to wear or where you could place it with no belt and every bit of weight counting.

You could carry it behind the ear like a fag  ;)

Quote from: ballinaman on October 02, 2015, 04:26:42 PM
Definitely achievable Bingo. Wouldn't have any experience of doing marathons in succession myself but that seems like a reasonable plan. I know a lad who ran a 3.12 in Brighton this year and a 2.57 the week after in London having never got below 3.04 before then.. Rest up and ease back into it for 2 weeks. Few marathon pace miles in week 3 and taper week 4.

Cheers, think i'm approaching it right but a few runs will tell the tale.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 02, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 04:57:57 PM
Question unrelated to running as i know some of you be in phoenix park running...

Where is handiest to park for zoo? Are there car parks in there?
Depending on the time of the day you should get parking on the side of the road of Chesterfield Avenue, especially if you drive up a little bit past the Zoo.

Yeah as LL said, Chesterfield ave
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
Bingo, I see they've changed the route slightly for Dublin compared to last years.
You won't be entering the Park now at the Park Gate street gate but instead a little de tour up blackball place and up around and coming back into park on the North Circular and running down by the back of the Zoo back onto chesterfield.

I should be around DCU somewhere with the kids cheering ye on . I'll keep an eye out and throw some abuse at you!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on October 06, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
Lads, I'm looking at booking a hotel for the night before the Dublin marathon. Before I start ringing round to see if anyone can guarantee a late check out so I can get showered and changed afterwards, are there any options in round the city centre for a shower other than depending on the hotel letting us stay on late?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 06, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html (http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html)

How would you approach this - try and get round at a quick pace to maximise recovery time or a slow and steady pace?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
Back in Buxton for my last week... Up at 6.30 ran for an hour around the town... Hills every half mile or so but f**k it was great... Nice temperature bit drizzling... So enjoyed it, view brill once sun came up..running is great with no pressure for times and pending races also
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 07, 2015, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 06, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html (http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html)

How would you approach this - try and get round at a quick pace to maximise recovery time or a slow and steady pace?


I would approach it by driving past the gates of Castleward for 2 mile, park outside the Hole in the Wall and have a rake of pints instead! It looks crazy, are you seriously considering it?

Just over a week till my first (and last) marathon, nerves have kicked in big style!🙈
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2015, 09:29:32 PM
That looks crazy but interesting... Do it as close to the hour as possible so as it takes the least out of you!

There are boys who could do a dozen plus of those floating round!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 08, 2015, 08:07:19 AM
Quote from: No1 on October 07, 2015, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 06, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html (http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html)

How would you approach this - try and get round at a quick pace to maximise recovery time or a slow and steady pace?


I would approach it by driving past the gates of Castleward for 2 mile, park outside the Hole in the Wall and have a rake of pints instead! It looks crazy, are you seriously considering it?

Just over a week till my first (and last) marathon, nerves have kicked in big style!🙈

Haha...when the wife mentioned it first I was thinking it was a case of just running the same loop 'til ye fell down but its more like an ultimate bleep test, not sure if I would try it or not but it's definitely different. Be interesting to call in after 10 hours to get a look at those still standing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 02, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
Bingo, I see they've changed the route slightly for Dublin compared to last years.
You won't be entering the Park now at the Park Gate street gate but instead a little de tour up blackball place and up around and coming back into park on the North Circular and running down by the back of the Zoo back onto chesterfield.

I should be around DCU somewhere with the kids cheering ye on . I'll keep an eye out and throw some abuse at you!!

Yeah seen that myself. Nice wee climb early in the race now up to Christchurch/Jurys Inn and then a quick downhill after that. I had thought they'd leave the route same as last year but maybe was too much delay on the quays for it.

I'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it  ;)

Quote from: lfdown2 on October 06, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html (http://www.atlasrunning.co.uk/page.html)

How would you approach this - try and get round at a quick pace to maximise recovery time or a slow and steady pace?


That's looks a crazy event. On first reading it sounds very doable for a prolonged time but you'd need to have a good handle on your nutrition, hydration and pace to last the day. Be some fellas who would eat that up and be still moving long after the speedsters from the first few laps have eaten dust.

I'd love to try something like this at some stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it  
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Watched the new Dublin course video last night, looks sick. The amount of climbs is mad. Tough course for a PB but fair play to anyone who gets one, would have earned it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Watched the new Dublin course video last night, looks sick. The amount of climbs is mad. Tough course for a PB but fair play to anyone who gets one, would have earned it!

Watched that myself. Don't think they doing themselves any favours with the route been tough. Not attracting much of a competitive field. But the numbers seem to be coming through, so the argument is that they go for a mass field with a friendly supportive crowd rather than an attractive course.

Often thought they could run through UCD grounds rather than round it and take in the hills and climbs round it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Watched the new Dublin course video last night, looks sick. The amount of climbs is mad. Tough course for a PB but fair play to anyone who gets one, would have earned it!

Watched that myself. Don't think they doing themselves any favours with the route been tough. Not attracting much of a competitive field. But the numbers seem to be coming through, so the argument is that they go for a mass field with a friendly supportive crowd rather than an attractive course.

Often thought they could run through UCD grounds rather than round it and take in the hills and climbs round it.
Ya, could turn in the Clonskeagh gate and out the main gate onto the flyover. You'd miss the drag in Roebuck and Roebuck hill itself...even coming up the flyover isn't hectic.
Would mean adding to another part of the course so it's 6 a 1.
Don't think Dublin will ever be conducive to really fast times so they are right to go for the mass event with friendly atmosphere.
I think 17-18,000 is the max they'll be able to start in merrion square and if numbers continue to grow, start will have to be moved. Probably to the Phoenix park...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
Ya, could turn in the Clonskeagh gate and out the main gate onto the flyover. You'd miss the drag in Roebuck and Roebuck hill itself...even coming up the flyover isn't hectic.
Would mean adding to another part of the course so it's 6 a 1.
Don't think Dublin will ever be conducive to really fast times so they are right to go for the mass event with friendly atmosphere.
I think 17-18,000 is the max they'll be able to start in merrion square and if numbers continue to grow, start will have to be moved. Probably to the Phoenix park...

The flat areas of the docklands, quays, coastal areas on the southside/northside seem to be all under used.

Have read from some that they are forced to go out into the park and the route is planned to minimise traffic disruption. Might well be the case.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
They should just run it up and down the m50 a few times. Nice and flat!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole

Tell him you work for the Dept of Finance, and you know where the next bug cut will be. p***k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 08, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole

Tell him you work for the Dept of Finance, and you know where the next bug cut will be. p***k.
Aye, same fella who spat in Anthony Egans face before the 78' league final...not surprised, lovely chap.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on October 08, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 08, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole

Tell him you work for the Dept of Finance, and you know where the next bug cut will be. p***k.
Aye, same fella who spat in Anthony Egans face before the 78' league final...not surprised, lovely chap.

Jaysus ye harbour a grudge up there :) I'm guessing the row in '96 will be a sore spot in 20 years time at least!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 08, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 08, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole

Tell him you work for the Dept of Finance, and you know where the next bug cut will be. p***k.
Aye, same fella who spat in Anthony Egans face before the 78' league final...not surprised, lovely chap.

Jaysus ye harbour a grudge up there :) I'm guessing the row in '96 will be a sore spot in 20 years time at least!
Haha...true, the funny thing is that some of the Mayo players get more stick up here for 96. As David Brady eloquently put it..."some mayo lads lay down picking daisies" during the scrap.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 09, 2015, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 08, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 08, 2015, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on October 08, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
Don't know how much of a runner it would be to go through UCD, I train out there with a group, a former Dublin footballer, head of sports out there I think, came up Tuesday evening to tell us basically to f**k off, that it was illegal. No such thing as asking if we had gotten permission, or we can accommodate something. I suppose what do u expect from an ass but a kick.

Nothing like fostering a spirit of participation. He'll likely be telling the marathon Olympians Gerry Kieran trains there the same thing, arsehole

Tell him you work for the Dept of Finance, and you know where the next bug cut will be. p***k.
Aye, same fella who spat in Anthony Egans face before the 78' league final...not surprised, lovely chap.

Jaysus ye harbour a grudge up there :) I'm guessing the row in '96 will be a sore spot in 20 years time at least!
Haha...true, the funny thing is that some of the Mayo players get more stick up here for 96. As David Brady eloquently put it..."some mayo lads lay down picking daisies" during the scrap.

Colm McMenamon was great in that row. His best performance on a football field ever!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
The last couple of runs my ankles area feels like its on fire. No searing pain - just almost unbearable burning/tiredness sensation in that area from about a mile. Is it possible I'm tying my laces too tightly/gutty problem..or needs looked at? The fact that it's both suggests it's something external?

I'd stepped up treadmill running recently due to circumstances - can that have a negative impact on the ankles when road running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:20:21 PM
Have you new trainers or has anything changed with your trainers/ laces??

Have you tried loosening laces?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
The last couple of runs my cankles area feels like its on fire. No searing pain - just almost unbearable burning/tiredness sensation in that area from about a mile. Is it possible I'm tying my laces too tightly/gutty problem..or needs looked at? The fact that it's both suggests it's something external?

I'd stepped up treadmill running recently due to circumstances - can that have a negative impact on the ankles when road running?

Fixed that for you, its probably the main reason why they hurt :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:20:21 PM

Have you tried loosening laces?

Aye, that's what hit me coming home today. Just wondering if there was anything else to eliminate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 11, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:20:21 PM

Have you tried loosening laces?

Aye, that's what hit me coming home today. Just wondering if there was anything else to eliminate.

There are loads of pages online about ankle pain and threadmill use ONeill. I'd say you needn't look too far for the source of your problems!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: CD on October 11, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:20:21 PM

Have you tried loosening laces?

Aye, that's what hit me coming home today. Just wondering if there was anything else to eliminate.

There are loads of pages online about ankle pain and threadmill use ONeill. I'd say you needn't look too far for the source of your problems!

Use a treadmill at least 4 days a week and never (touch wood) had any problems... Be four miles a go on treadmill too.. At 16 miles plus the road running its (for me) fine... Would certainly look at other areas before that.. Gait technique trainers pace... All big factors which can make a difference... Treadmill is actually softer impact on bones... Boring as feck though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 11, 2015, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Watched the new Dublin course video last night, looks sick. The amount of climbs is mad. Tough course for a PB but fair play to anyone who gets one, would have earned it!

Watched that myself. Don't think they doing themselves any favours with the route been tough. Not attracting much of a competitive field. But the numbers seem to be coming through, so the argument is that they go for a mass field with a friendly supportive crowd rather than an attractive course.

Often thought they could run through UCD grounds rather than round it and take in the hills and climbs round it.

f**k that! should have gone to Berlin :'(
Didn t realise there were changes until yesterday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2015, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 11, 2015, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 08, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
QuoteI'll welcome the abuse and if I'm anywhere near DCU i'll deserve it   
Lol do'h! I meant UCD of course!

:D Had thought so alright. My least favourite part of the course is from Clonskeagh right round to the UCD flyover. I suppose its that far into the course its tough but even when it was that bit earlier in the course it just seems to be so long and open.
Watched the new Dublin course video last night, looks sick. The amount of climbs is mad. Tough course for a PB but fair play to anyone who gets one, would have earned it!

Watched that myself. Don't think they doing themselves any favours with the route been tough. Not attracting much of a competitive field. But the numbers seem to be coming through, so the argument is that they go for a mass field with a friendly supportive crowd rather than an attractive course.

Often thought they could run through UCD grounds rather than round it and take in the hills and climbs round it.

f**k that! should have gone to Berlin :'(
Didn t realise there were changes until yesterday.

Don't fret too much on the course. The first climb comes early and will be over before you even think too much on it.

While the course has changed, its not massively different and a look at the video will mark out the tighter parts of the run. Remember - what goes up must come down, so as you start and finish in one place, you get back what you lose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on October 12, 2015, 10:54:51 AM
(http://s9.postimg.org/m3ax3zj4v/dcm.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 12, 2015, 11:43:08 AM
Did C25K.

Then did 5K to 1/2M.

Then 1/2M back to 5K.

And have just completed 5K back to Couch.





About to start all over again. Jebus.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2015, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: muppet on October 12, 2015, 11:43:08 AM
Did C25K.

Then did 5K to 1/2M.

Then 1/2M back to 5K.

And have just completed 5K back to Couch.





About to start all over again. Jebus.

;D  ;D Great post.

At least you know whats ahead of you.  :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 13, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
http://www.thejournal.ie/chicago-marathon-wedding-2385557-Oct2015/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/chicago-marathon-wedding-2385557-Oct2015/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 13, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
http://www.thejournal.ie/chicago-marathon-wedding-2385557-Oct2015/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/chicago-marathon-wedding-2385557-Oct2015/)
Wouldn't have that...would lose a ridiculous amount of time, priorities ! :P

How's taper week for No1...going this weekend too if I remember right?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 14, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Going grand BM, it's been my most enjoyable week of running in over 3 months. I could get used to tapering and carb loading! The nerves are starting to kick in a bit but hopefully they'll disappear when the gun goes.

More importantly, have you found a pub close to the Olympic Stadium where we can watch the rugby?  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 14, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 14, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Going grand BM, it's been my most enjoyable week of running in over 3 months. I could get used to tapering and carb loading! The nerves are starting to kick in a bit but hopefully they'll disappear when the gun goes.

More importantly, have you found a pub close to the Olympic Stadium where we can watch the rugby?  :)
ha, good stuff! Weather looks decent, 10 degrees and overcast with hardly any breeze....can't ask for much more than that.
Ya. I've found O'Donnells Irish pub near the Heineken experience museum....staying in a hotel that end of town so will probably hobble/taxi back to hotel and straight to pub for the match...probably will miss a bit of it but what can you do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 14, 2015, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 14, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Going grand BM, it's been my most enjoyable week of running in over 3 months. I could get used to tapering and carb loading! The nerves are starting to kick in a bit but hopefully they'll disappear when the gun goes.

More importantly, have you found a pub close to the Olympic Stadium where we can watch the rugby?  :)

Best of luck this weekend No.1 and to Rinty also not forgetting BM have a good one too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 16, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
Best if luck to BM and No1 in Amsterdam this weekend.

Hope the PBS are hit and I know BMs is no soft target.

If nothing else I'm sure the boys with enjoy the post race sights and hospitality  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2015, 10:36:40 AM
Best of luck guys.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 17, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Good luck lads. Looking forward to the race reports!
Enjoy the 'nightlife' afterwards ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 17, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
Cheers fellas. Grub into me, one pint to watch the rugby and off to bed. Imagine sitting in on a Saturday night in Amsterdam! Hope tomorrow is worth it! 🙈
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 18, 2015, 08:45:08 AM
Good luck today lads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2015, 11:19:43 AM
Anyone tracking the two lads?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2015, 12:56:37 PM
10 minute PB for ballinaman! Fair play!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 18, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
3:31 odds for me. Absolutely delighted but that is my first and last marathon, never felt pain like that in my life, brutal stuff! Back to half maras and 10ks for me! What was BM's time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 18, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 18, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
3:31 odds for me. Absolutely delighted but that is my first and last marathon, never felt pain like that in my life, brutal stuff! Back to half maras and 10ks for me! What was BM's time?
Unreal No1...what a debut!
Marathons are no joke! Found last 5km tough going...tied but a bit but happy with result, left everything out on the course. Will tweak the training and go again...
Came home in 2.46 and a tick...
Thinking of going to durty nellys pub for after 6...panned out in hotel watching rugby now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2015, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 18, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
3:31 odds for me. Absolutely delighted but that is my first and last marathon, never felt pain like that in my life, brutal stuff! Back to half maras and 10ks for me! What was BM's time?
Well done.
In a few weeks when you've recovered and look back on it you'll be wishing to do another one I bet you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 18, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
BM that is absolutely fantastic, what a run. Well done, some athlete! Sitting at the hotel bar here watching the nations latest failure! We'll probably head into town around the same time, shoot me a PM if you want to collect that pint I owe you for all the injury advice! Once again, well done. Fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 18, 2015, 03:45:22 PM
Well done lads, fantastic running from you both
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 18, 2015, 04:04:39 PM
Well done lads. Super debut and a serious PB.

Enjoy the sight seeing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2015, 05:52:08 PM
Great running guys. Bm great to see you getting the time you wanted after being so unlucky with injury time out! Hard work pays off!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 18, 2015, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 18, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
3:31 odds for me. Absolutely delighted but that is my first and last marathon, never felt pain like that in my life, brutal stuff! Back to half maras and 10ks for me! What was BM's time?

Well done to you both.  No.1 how did Rinty get on? I watched some of it on Eurosport coverage just focused on the front 20
Was out today on a recce for a race in the Mournes next weekend hope we get the same weather we got today. last year was brutal weather wise rain and gales.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 18, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
3:31 odds for me. Absolutely delighted but that is my first and last marathon, never felt pain like that in my life, brutal stuff! Back to half maras and 10ks for me! What was BM's time?

Smashing time... Some pace too... Have you checked you pace ?? Was it even ish over the distance??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on October 19, 2015, 09:55:38 AM
Impressive Marathon times lads well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 19, 2015, 11:12:15 AM
In awe of you both guys. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 19, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
Serious delayed onset muscle soreness today I tells ya! Myself and a my mate hobbling around the red light district for a gawk this morning..say people must have thought, "jeeze those 2 lads can barely walk...what were they at". ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 19, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Wow!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-34551782
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 19, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
That's amazing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 21, 2015, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 19, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Wow!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-34551782

Gives new meaning to the shout 'c'mon - push it!'
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 21, 2015, 09:27:29 PM
Walt and MR, I'm only seeing your posts now. Rinty ran 3:17, he was happy enough (believe it or not)!

MR, pace was steady enough and consistent until mile 21. After that it was up and down like a hoors knickers, it was just a matter of not walking and getting finished. Nothing enjoyable about the last 4 or 5 mile.

Delighted with the time but still never doing another one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 21, 2015, 09:27:29 PM
Walt and MR, I'm only seeing your posts now. Rinty ran 3:17, he was happy enough (believe it or not)!

MR, pace was steady enough and consistent until mile 21. After that it was up and down like a hoors knickers, it was just a matter of not walking and getting finished. Nothing enjoyable about the last 4 or 5 mile.

Delighted with the time but still never doing another one!

That would be me.. steady until that period then all tits up after that!!! managed 18 easy and felt grand but the final 8 miles is uncharted for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 21, 2015, 10:51:17 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 21, 2015, 09:27:29 PM
Walt and MR, I'm only seeing your posts now. Rinty ran 3:17, he was happy enough (believe it or not)!

MR, pace was steady enough and consistent until mile 21. After that it was up and down like a hoors knickers, it was just a matter of not walking and getting finished. Nothing enjoyable about the last 4 or 5 mile.

Delighted with the time but still never doing another one!

You done one but it will always be one more than me - I will never do a marathon  well on the road any way.
Did you enjoy the whole experience of the event or not
Rinty was flying What's next for him sub 3:00?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 24, 2015, 09:31:32 PM
All the best to anyone running on Monday. Its tough going but the feeling crossing the line is magic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on October 24, 2015, 09:31:32 PM
All the best to anyone running on Monday. Its tough going but the feeling crossing the line is magic.

Yeah good luck lads... Weather seems good and not unusually hot so that will help ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 25, 2015, 12:19:31 PM

Can t believe its this time of year again. Heading to the Expo in a few mins. Good luck to anybody else crazy enough to be doin it ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 25, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 25, 2015, 12:19:31 PM

Can t believe its this time of year again. Heading to the Expo in a few mins. Good luck to anybody else crazy enough to be doin it ;D
Best of luck moysider and bingo. Anyone else doing it from here? Is heffo doing it?
Can't believe its been a year since I did. I'll be out cheering you all on.
Hope the weather is more favourable for ye this year.

I see this is the last year it will be on a Monday with it being on a Sunday from 2016.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 25, 2015, 02:58:33 PM
Good luck lads, it's a tough slog but it's some race, you earn everything you get.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 25, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
I'm doing it folks, feet up now finally - ready for bed already!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2015, 03:49:20 PM
I'll be watching it. There's a fair buzz about the place.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 25, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Best of luck heffo and moysider. Hopefully the wind isnt as bad as reported or somehow blows behind us for the 26miles!

Heading up early am with a few from Blayney in cling Mrs Bingo doing her first and the brother who had a disaster two years ago and is back for revenge on DCM. He only told mammy bingo that he was doing it yesterday and she been lighting candles since.

See ye all on the other side.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on October 26, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
are ye able to track the progress of the runners this morning? Have the bro and gf home from Switzerland to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: BenDover on October 26, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
are ye able to track the progress of the runners this morning? Have the bro and gf home from Switzerland to do it.
http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2015#/tracker.
Just enter their name or bib number.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on October 26, 2015, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: BenDover on October 26, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
are ye able to track the progress of the runners this morning? Have the bro and gf home from Switzerland to do it.
http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2015#/tracker.
Just enter their name or bib number.
Good man LL this is excellent
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 09:55:28 AM
Bingo through 10k in 46mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 09:55:28 AM
Bingo through 10k in 46mins

46!!!! Feck that is pacy enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 09:55:28 AM
Bingo through 10k in 46mins
1:37 half way for bingo estimated 3:13 finish according to the tracker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 26, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
That tracker is brilliant.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on October 26, 2015, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 26, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
That tracker is brilliant.
glued to it atm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
3:18 for bingo.
Some going 2 marathons in a month fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 26, 2015, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
3:18 for bingo.
Some going 2 marathons in a month fair play.
Serious stuff, mighty. Looked tough day for it by the pictures on twitter. Panned out by a pool in the canaries here....slightly less strenuous.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 26, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
Jesus that was tough but really enjoyed it.

Started off on the wrong foot when I got into town with no shorts - I'd left them behind. Was meeting a few people at a gym to get changed so the owner dug out a pair of cycling shorts two sizes too small, eventually someone found a sackcloth for me to wear.

Great atmosphere and support and glad I did it now but I'd say I'll feel it in the morning. Well done to the other runners today who did it in serious times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on October 26, 2015, 07:10:36 PM
Was moving well today up to about 18 mile but ran out of steam and couldn't keep it up. The last few miles were a torture with my hamstrings as tight as I've ever felt them. Finished up on 3:45 and a few seconds - well inside my only previous time (3:59 in Belfast) but not as fast as hoped.

I wouldn't know Dublin too well so can't comment on the course too much (because I don't know where I was) but that hill in Phoenix park went on forever. Thankfully it was early on. Other things of note were the unreal crowds, the Gooch handing out bottles of lucozade sport at about 20 mile and the super organisation - really enjoyed it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 26, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Well done lads. Tough day out there when into the wind but it was a help a good part of the day two, miles 10-14 where hard work tough.

Very happy with my time. Wasn't sure how I'd hold together, 3.20 paces went past me with 2 miles to go but I want letting them away and even managed to pass them again in last km. Two of the harest but must satisfying miles I've run.

Fair play to LL for the updates.

Mrs Bingo completed her first marathon and got round in 4.25, brillant running with steady 10 min miles all day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 26, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Well done lads. Tough day out there when into the wind but it was a help a good part of the day two, miles 10-14 where hard work tough.

Very happy with my time. Wasn't sure how I'd hold together, 3.20 paces went past me with 2 miles to go but I want letting them away and even managed to pass them again in last km. Two of the harest but must satisfying miles I've run.

Fair play to LL for the updates.

Mrs Bingo completed her first marathon and got round in 4.25, brillant running with steady 10 min miles all day.
Fair play bingo. Will you go for the quadruple of Dublin marathons next year?
I'd say you were glad of the few showers of rain! We could have done with some last year!!
We didn't get to go and cheer ye on as it was too wet to bring the youngfellas out.
Fair play to your Mrs as well, you'll hardly see much action tonight  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 26, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
Fair play lads, quality stuff. Enjoy walking like John Wayne tomorrow too... ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 26, 2015, 11:24:15 PM

Back home in front of the stove with a fridge pack. Beer is great recovery with the ould salt content ;D

My best Marathon (of 5)  by a full 10 mins so I'm thrilled to bits. Was on for a sub 3:45 until mile 23 but drained a couple of minutes down the last stretch. I ll not be troubling likes of Bingo's times but I m no Spring chicken and it is a great feeling to be able to improve like this at an age where we are supposed to be going backwards. Seriously good for the head. If anybody told me 5 years ago that I would run marathons I would have had a laugh.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on October 27, 2015, 07:15:01 AM
Excellent running from all the marathoners yesterday,fair play to each of you.
It's a fantastic achievement regardless of time,we all have our own different times to aim for but the ultimate goal is to cross the finish line and that's the one thing we all have in common.
Saying that though,there are some serious runners on here with amazing times.
A great thread this is.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
I'll see you at the start line of Dublin 2016.. We can have that long awaited pint together afterwards  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: Bingo on October 26, 2015, 07:42:10 PM
Well done lads. Tough day out there when into the wind but it was a help a good part of the day two, miles 10-14 where hard work tough.

Very happy with my time. Wasn't sure how I'd hold together, 3.20 paces went past me with 2 miles to go but I want letting them away and even managed to pass them again in last km. Two of the harest but must satisfying miles I've run.

Fair play to LL for the updates.

Mrs Bingo completed her first marathon and got round in 4.25, brillant running with steady 10 min miles all day.

Would settle for the time your wife done..... My problem would be discipline, sticking to a pace say starting out at a 9 min mile pace... Would get me in under 4 hours which would be great, but having only done 2 half's and loads of shorter distances I think id blow up around 20 miles!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 27, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 26, 2015, 11:24:15 PM

Back home in front of the stove with a fridge pack. Beer is great recovery with the ould salt content ;D

My best Marathon (of 5)  by a full 10 mins so I'm thrilled to bits. Was on for a sub 3:45 until mile 23 but drained a couple of minutes down the last stretch. I ll not be troubling likes of Bingo's times but I m no Spring chicken and it is a great feeling to be able to improve like this at an age where we are supposed to be going backwards. Seriously good for the head. If anybody told me 5 years ago that I would run marathons I would have had a laugh.

Fair play Moysider, great sense of achievement and you have every right to be delighted.

One of things I find with the marathon or any distance is that everyones time and effort has to be seriously respected and the sense of achievement in each and everyone should be the same. When I was training for the first one, 4 years ago, one of the sub3 guys from home said that everyone hurts the same regardless of time, there is no shortcuts, no luck involved or a way of making it easy, you just have to prepare and commit to the finish line on the day.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:23:42 AM

Would settle for the time your wife done..... My problem would be discipline, sticking to a pace say starting out at a 9 min mile pace... Would get me in under 4 hours which would be great, but having only done 2 half's and loads of shorter distances I think id blow up around 20 miles!!

She was super in fairness, stuck to her plan and actually enjoyed the whole thing. Discipline is the key in these things and she had bags of it yesterday. If you do one, you'll have trained for the distance and gradually built up to it, so it is doable. In her training, she only did one 20mile run and managed the best off the back off it, knowing what she was going to do.

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.

Fair play Seanie, get back on the bike.

Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Fair play bingo. Will you go for the quadruple of Dublin marathons next year?
I'd say you were glad of the few showers of rain! We could have done with some last year!!
We didn't get to go and cheer ye on as it was too wet to bring the youngfellas out.
Fair play to your Mrs as well, you'll hardly see much action tonight  ;)

No plans yet, I done it last year to do 3-in-a-row and now 5 seems very tempting  ;D Early days though and who knows what next year will take.....on Sunday seems a cracking idea though  ;)
Despite the wind and rain, I much preferred yesterday to last year and a lot of people said the same. Might have cost a few minutes this year but was a whole lot worse last year.

The stairs was about as much action we seen last night  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Bingo,moysider,heffo and take_yer_ points today
http://youtu.be/m-hCuYjvw2I
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 27, 2015, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Bingo,moysider,heffo and take_yer_ points today
http://youtu.be/m-hCuYjvw2I

You're not wrong!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on October 27, 2015, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Bingo,moysider,heffo and take_yer_ points today
http://youtu.be/m-hCuYjvw2I

Very good, the stairs aren't much fun today.

I meant to say yesterday, there isn't much fun when you're at the point where taking one more step feels like a challenge. You can have all the people running with you, all the crowds and it's still an unbelievably lonely place to be. I was never as happy to see the 800m sign near the end yesterday, but that must've been the longest 800m of my life.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
I'll see you at the start line of Dublin 2016.. We can have that long awaited pint together afterwards  ;)

Marathon - I'm going to try to do one at some stage of my life but just not convinced I can do it in the near future. The training must take up serious amounts of time and I've had trouble squeezing in my Warriors Run training the last two years, we'll see.

I'll meet you for a pint any time though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
I'll see you at the start line of Dublin 2016.. We can have that long awaited pint together afterwards  ;)

Marathon - I'm going to try to do one at some stage of my life but just not convinced I can do it in the near future. The training must take up serious amounts of time and I've had trouble squeezing in my Warriors Run training the last two years, we'll see.

I'll meet you for a pint any time though!
Maybe we should organise a Running tread Christmas night out?
Who'd be up for it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 27, 2015, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 12:40:33 PM
Bingo,moysider,heffo and take_yer_ points today
http://youtu.be/m-hCuYjvw2I
Well done lads and Mrs B. A great achievement. If you are fit for a 10 miler or a 4mile warm down,I can highly recommend this one on Saturday https://m.facebook.com/Running4Rescue
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2015, 11:05:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
I'll see you at the start line of Dublin 2016.. We can have that long awaited pint together afterwards  ;)

Marathon - I'm going to try to do one at some stage of my life but just not convinced I can do it in the near future. The training must take up serious amounts of time and I've had trouble squeezing in my Warriors Run training the last two years, we'll see.

I'll meet you for a pint any time though!
Maybe we should organise a Running tread Christmas night out?
Who'd be up for it?

Would that be a full or a half?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 28, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
Jesus that was tough but really enjoyed it.

Started off on the wrong foot when I got into town with no shorts - I'd left them behind. Was meeting a few people at a gym to get changed so the owner dug out a pair of cycling shorts two sizes too small, eventually someone found a sackcloth for me to wear.

Great atmosphere and support and glad I did it now but I'd say I'll feel it in the morning. Well done to the other runners today who did it in serious times.

That's gas.

Well done and congrats to Bingo on a great time and to the others for even finishing the bloody thing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2015, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 27, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Well done everyone. Awesome work.

I even got off my hole and got back on the horse over the weekend after a tremendous bout of laziness/feeling sorry for myself/nagging cold/excuses.....etc.
I'll see you at the start line of Dublin 2016.. We can have that long awaited pint together afterwards  ;)

Marathon - I'm going to try to do one at some stage of my life but just not convinced I can do it in the near future. The training must take up serious amounts of time and I've had trouble squeezing in my Warriors Run training the last two years, we'll see.

I'll meet you for a pint any time though!
Maybe we should organise a Running tread Christmas night out?
Who'd be up for it?

I'd be up for it but always find Christmas the worst time for meet ups when travelling involved and trying to get a date that suits. Always seems to be something on or somewhere to be round home and in the lead up to xmas its parties and gatherings.

It alright for you Dubs who can get the nightlink home  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on October 29, 2015, 11:30:13 PM
Back last year when we did that chart to record our monthly running I put sub 1:45 half marathon as my goal. I never updated my monthly totals, they would have been quite inconsistent. This year has been slightly better with my training and I got close to my goal with 1:45:44 Back in May. My next goal is a 3:45 marathon and I just picked up my number for the New York marathon on Sunday.
I have picked up a cold in the last day, hopefully the worst of it will be over by Sunday, so if I am feeling ok I'll still try for 3:45. If not then beating my PR of 3:59 will be my goal. I hope I haven't jinxed myself by putting this in writing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2015, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: dec on October 29, 2015, 11:30:13 PM
Back last year when we did that chart to record our monthly running I put sub 1:45 half marathon as my goal. I never updated my monthly totals, they would have been quite inconsistent. This year has been slightly better with my training and I got close to my goal with 1:45:44 Back in May. My next goal is a 3:45 marathon and I just picked up my number for the New York marathon on Sunday.
I have picked up a cold in the last day, hopefully the worst of it will be over by Sunday, so if I am feeling ok I'll still try for 3:45. If not then beating my PR of 3:59 will be my goal. I hope I haven't jinxed myself by putting this in writing.

Great stuff Dec and the very best of luck for Sunday. Fingers crossed the cold isn't too bad and clears.

I'm itching to push on and do a spring marathon. Not sure why but I think I have a better time in me and anxious that I build on the current base and get another one in the tank. Have looked at London but this would require going through the Tour operator but is pricey, reality this may be only way to do it and its on the bucket list as such. Other options are Rotterdam and Barcelona but it is in early March.

Maybe I'll get sense over the weekend  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 30, 2015, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: dec on October 29, 2015, 11:30:13 PM
Back last year when we did that chart to record our monthly running I put sub 1:45 half marathon as my goal. I never updated my monthly totals, they would have been quite inconsistent. This year has been slightly better with my training and I got close to my goal with 1:45:44 Back in May. My next goal is a 3:45 marathon and I just picked up my number for the New York marathon on Sunday.
I have picked up a cold in the last day, hopefully the worst of it will be over by Sunday, so if I am feeling ok I'll still try for 3:45. If not then beating my PR of 3:59 will be my goal. I hope I haven't jinxed myself by putting this in writing.

Mind that. My sister in law ran Dublin on Monday with headache and high temp. Ran with her at the start and she was struggling. Told the missus at mile 11 to try and get her to quit but she continued on and finished - incredibly under 4 hrs. She's a best of 3 thirtysomething.
But she s struggled since with a high heart rate and breathing difficulty. Went to doc today and she's been suffering from dehydration and kidney infection and is fairly flattened. She relies now she was silly and not worth it.

Like Bingo I m looking to do another in spring. Entered Barca last year but got injured. Anybody know anything about the Manchester one in April?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: annapr on October 30, 2015, 08:14:23 PM
Did you get in through the ballot dec?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2015, 08:16:54 PM
Good luck Dec...will be a cracker of a marathon, would love to do it someday. Probably know this already but you're supposedly kept out at the start for hours before it starts...bring plenty of clothes that you can toss.
Also, try and position yourself on the top bridge because it rains urine I've heard and you don't want to be on the bottom deck of the bridge for obvious reasons!

Bingo, I'm looking at Rotterdam big time. 50 euro entry before November 1st and goes up by a few quid then...not much though, all on the website. Supposed to be a quality marathon and it's flat flat flat which is all you want really. Fly to Amsterdam and train to Rotterdam takes 50 mins and goes direct from airport. Had a look at hotels too, very reasonable.

Moy, spoke to Eoin Callaghan who was 2nd in Manchester last year and said it was a great marathon. He might have been biased after having a stormer of a run though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2015, 09:44:02 PM
BM, only heard good things about it. Easy to get too and very well run with very big crowd support on the route. Was reading up on it today at lunch time and it's very tempting at a fraction of the price of London. Think it goes up 7.50 in price, s not too bad.

Done my first Gym class tonight. A friend has developed a new exercise class useless a weight that also doubles as a foam roller, it's called a Ramfit, if you look it up. He just put 30 of them into a big gym in Belfast and it will do.well.

Arms are hanging and a serious workout in 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on October 30, 2015, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: annapr on October 30, 2015, 08:14:23 PM
Did you get in through the ballot dec?

No, I live in New York so I got in through the New York RoadRunners 9+1 program http://www.nyrr.org/join-and-give/become-a-member/run-9-give-1
I ran 9 NYRR races last year (varying distances from 5K to half marathon) and volunteered at 1 of their races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 31, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
Good luck Dec.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2015, 01:50:43 PM

Yeah, best of luck Dec.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 31, 2015, 01:58:48 PM
Best of luck - great event to be taking part in!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2015, 03:45:07 PM
Best of luck Dec,its one id love to do myself someday but I'd have to rely on the ballot system I reckon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 01, 2015, 10:05:12 PM
3:56

I realised after about the third mile that 3:45 wasn't going happen so I adjusted my plan to aim for beating my PR of 3:59.

I'll do a longer update later but for now there is a pint or two that probably aren't going to drink themselves.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 01, 2015, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: dec on November 01, 2015, 10:05:12 PM
3:56

I realised after about the third mile that 3:45 wasn't going happen so I adjusted my plan to aim for beating my PR of 3:59.

I'll do a longer update later but for now there is a pint or two that probably aren't going to drink themselves.

Fair play dec on the PB. Great going on a tight course by all accounts.

Enjoy the pints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 02, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
Well done dec great running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 12, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Did the run in the dark last nite in Dublin, piss poor organisation. start delayed by 20 mins and then the 5k was actually 5.5k but not to worry they took ur 5k time further back the road without telling you the race was done
Brutal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on November 12, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 12, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Did the run in the dark last nite in Dublin, piss poor organisation. start delayed by 20 mins and then the 5k was actually 5.5k but not to worry they took ur 5k time further back the road without telling you the race was done
Brutal

I did it last year and spent the first 2K getting past people walking - there were groups of aul ones linking arms five and six abrest walking in the first corral near the start line.

Great cause, joke of a run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 12, 2015, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 12, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 12, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Did the run in the dark last nite in Dublin, piss poor organisation. start delayed by 20 mins and then the 5k was actually 5.5k but not to worry they took ur 5k time further back the road without telling you the race was done
Brutal

I did it last year and spent the first 2K getting past people walking - there were groups of aul ones linking arms five and six abrest walking in the first corral near the start line.

Great cause, joke of a run.
Ya, great cause but I've noticed that the majority of races not organised by a club can be dodgy in terms of organisation...mile markers...stewards...distance...results ect...
Doing a 10km this weekend...breathing will be under severe pressure. No intervals for the last month but got to start back sonetime...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 12, 2015, 06:07:47 PM
You braved the elements today anyway ballinaman   :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 12, 2015, 06:47:16 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 12, 2015, 06:07:47 PM
You braved the elements today anyway ballinaman   :D
Haha...spotted? Ya...crazy weather, got some quare looks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on November 12, 2015, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 12, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 12, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Did the run in the dark last nite in Dublin, piss poor organisation. start delayed by 20 mins and then the 5k was actually 5.5k but not to worry they took ur 5k time further back the road without telling you the race was done
Brutal

I did it last year and spent the first 2K getting past people walking - there were groups of aul ones linking arms five and six abrest walking in the first corral near the start line.

Great cause, joke of a run.

At the other end of the spectrum, i completed Sea to Summit supreme last weekend in Westport, fantastic weather, very wll orgainsed and a good tough course. I would highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Maurice Moss on November 12, 2015, 10:49:11 PM
Wee question for some of the guys here... Where would be the best place to buy good base layers for running in the cold nights and mornings. Any websites that you'd recommend that have quality products. Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 13, 2015, 12:34:00 AM
Quote from: Maurice Moss on November 12, 2015, 10:49:11 PM
Wee question for some of the guys here... Where would be the best place to buy good base layers for running in the cold nights and mornings. Any websites that you'd recommend that have quality products. Cheers in advance.

I think under armour stuff is good but I don t like clingy base layers myself. In Ireland, at any time really, you get warm fairly quickly and if you overdress, end up too warm. If it's windy and nasty I'd go for a light jacket rather than a base layer. When you warm into a run it's like adding 10 degrees to the actual temp. But everybody is different. I don t like wearing anything on the head either because I sweat a bit and you lose a lot of heat through the head, which is good. Usually go with shorts as well. My only comfort is gloves. Was wearing gloves last April. I can run in cold with short sleeves as long as I ve gloves!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 07:47:04 AM
Helly hansen stuff is very good and much less "clingy". Google it and you should find the best price.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 13, 2015, 10:03:52 AM
The Aldi under armour is great, especially for cycling I find
The Helly Hansen striped ones are good too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: moysider on November 13, 2015, 12:34:00 AM
Quote from: Maurice Moss on November 12, 2015, 10:49:11 PM
Wee question for some of the guys here... Where would be the best place to buy good base layers for running in the cold nights and mornings. Any websites that you'd recommend that have quality products. Cheers in advance.

I think under armour stuff is good but I don t like clingy base layers myself. In Ireland, at any time really, you get warm fairly quickly and if you overdress, end up too warm. If it's windy and nasty I'd go for a light jacket rather than a base layer. When you warm into a run it's like adding 10 degrees to the actual temp. But everybody is different. I don t like wearing anything on the head either because I sweat a bit and you lose a lot of heat through the head, which is good. Usually go with shorts as well. My only comfort is gloves. Was wearing gloves last April. I can run in cold with short sleeves as long as I ve gloves!

Could have wrote this myself!

I'd have a few Canterbury base layers and find them great. Not clingy and lets you breathe. Less is more in the cold weather if you have it right. I've a very light RonHill hat and gloves, great for a mile or so and then can be tucked into the shorts.

Few years ago I got a couple pairs if Lidl running tights and they where got the year of the big snow to save that really cold snap on the legs but haven't wore them since. Good for the bike as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 10:54:56 AM
For anyone interested:

Castleblayney 5km Sunday 29th November 2pm start on a fast, accurate course on closed roads. Had over 700 take part last year. Good spread and cup of tea afterwards in the local Hotel and the special guest afterwards is David Mathews, former Irish Olympian and current coach. He trains individuals, groups and GAA teams including Cork Hurlers a few years back.

http://www.active.com/castleblayney-monaghan/running/distance-running-races/castleblayney-supervalu-5km-road-race-2015 (http://www.active.com/castleblayney-monaghan/running/distance-running-races/castleblayney-supervalu-5km-road-race-2015)

€10 to entry online or €13 on the day.

I am current the undefeated GAABOARD prize winner in this run and am going for 5-in-a-row.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:12:44 AM
Was through 'blaney the other day and seen the sign for this, wouldn't mind doing it but the wife is due the 27th so probably not ideal...

Being training for Castlewellan Christmas Cracker the last few weeks, plenty of trail running and hill climbing really enjoying it;

http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449 (http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449)

Its done in pair and you have to finish with your partner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 13, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
I can't wear any of those body warmer clothes at all. Not even a hat or gloves. They would actually make me feel sick I sweat that much anytime I've tried to wear them.
Maybe its because I often work outside so I don't feel the cold as much as someone else might.
Just a shorts and t shirt for me whatever the weather, maybe a very light running jacket if its raining or dark as I have a florescent yellow one.

Only just back running after a few weeks off after hurting my ankle at the half marathon. It wasn't hurt for that long I just got lazy!
Amazing how quickly you can lose a bit of fitness, my 70%hrr pace has slowed by about 40seconds a mile.
Doing a bit on the bike now again for first time in ages.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:12:44 AM
Was through 'blaney the other day and seen the sign for this, wouldn't mind doing it but the wife is due the 27th so probably not ideal...

Being training for Castlewellan Christmas Cracker the last few weeks, plenty of trail running and hill climbing really enjoying it;

http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449 (http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449)

Its done in pair and you have to finish with your partner.

I've done the Christmas once and its one of my favourite races. The date suits a lot better this year on the 28th, so might head over. Great tough course but always a great buzz and like the team element of it.

I see the entries are limited this year, so might get the brother organised and head over to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:12:44 AM
Was through 'blaney the other day and seen the sign for this, wouldn't mind doing it but the wife is due the 27th so probably not ideal...

Being training for Castlewellan Christmas Cracker the last few weeks, plenty of trail running and hill climbing really enjoying it;

http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449 (http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449)

Its done in pair and you have to finish with your partner.

I've done the Christmas once and its one of my favourite races. The date suits a lot better this year on the 28th, so might head over. Great tough course but always a great buzz and like the team element of it.

I see the entries are limited this year, so might get the brother organised and head over to it.

Yeah, like the idea of being able to blame someone else...(even if I am holding the show up)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 11:50:51 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 13, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 13, 2015, 11:12:44 AM
Was through 'blaney the other day and seen the sign for this, wouldn't mind doing it but the wife is due the 27th so probably not ideal...

Being training for Castlewellan Christmas Cracker the last few weeks, plenty of trail running and hill climbing really enjoying it;

http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449 (http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=8449)

Its done in pair and you have to finish with your partner.

I've done the Christmas once and its one of my favourite races. The date suits a lot better this year on the 28th, so might head over. Great tough course but always a great buzz and like the team element of it.

I see the entries are limited this year, so might get the brother organised and head over to it.

Yeah, like the idea of being able to blame someone else...(even if I am holding the show up)

Yeah, the year we done it, my man had gone ahead on that last mile going into the town. I was struggling but spotted one of lads from the club at home struggling badly ahead, so I got the bull on and got passed him, as knew they where the first two from our club and thought they'd be home. Kept ahead and our two partners where waiting in the pen for us to appear so that we could finish. Was a great bit of craic as we both made the burst for home and the two boys going hectic in the pen. Local bragging rights very important!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 13, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Anyone done the Castlebar Parkrun?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 13, 2015, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 13, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Anyone done the Castlebar Parkrun?
Nope but looks like its a fairly twisty route around Lough Lanagh judging by this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvOfqk7BaT0

....coffee and tea afterwards supposed to be daycent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 14, 2015, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 13, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Anyone done the Castlebar Parkrun?

Yes. A very nice route around the lake. One fairly steep hill, although it is quite short and then a long slow descent back to the lake. You don't do the hill 2nd time around.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 15, 2015, 09:02:05 PM
Has anyone ever put their running shoes in a washing machine?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2015, 09:03:37 PM
I would from time to time... Only if i'd ran through a lot of mud and they were filthy mind.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2015, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 15, 2015, 09:02:05 PM
Has anyone ever put their running shoes in a washing machine?

Put them in a pillow case and tie it up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2015, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2015, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 13, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Anyone done the Castlebar Parkrun?

Yes. A very nice route around the lake. One fairly steep hill, although it is quite short and then a long slow descent back to the lake. You don't do the hill 2nd time around.

Very nice course, a lot nicer than Ballina IMO
That hill is a killer
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on November 16, 2015, 11:28:51 AM
Looking at getting one of this garmin watches.

Options are new forerunner 10/15 or getting a something second hand like a 220 or 310.

What do we think?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2015, 11:35:45 AM
Quote from: pullhard on November 16, 2015, 11:28:51 AM
Looking at getting one of this garmin watches.

Options are new forerunner 10/15 or getting a something second hand like a 220 or 310.

What do we think?
I've a forerunner 405, it's a good few years old at this stage and does the job. A lot of needless stuff on the newer ones...ground contact time, vertical oscillations ect...

I've it set to auto lap every mile so it's handy to see what you've done the last mile in.

Did a 10km yesterday, horrendous weather/no speedwork in 6 weeks made for an uncomfortable 37.18 minutes.....good to run under pressure though, enjoyed it in a weird way, don't feel have to be in PB shape all the time to race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on November 16, 2015, 11:41:28 AM
I would like to be able to program some stuff in and do intervals, which the GF 10/15 cant do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
405 does that. Handy enough to program in.

I've a 405. It's a good job - can be a bit slow on picking up satellite sometimes mind. I would use it for heart rate, lap time, intervals etc. Nothin too fancy like routes or ghost running or that but they can be done handy enough.

It is old though but you could pick it up cheap enough. I've been considering upgrading recently but haven't got round to it yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2015, 12:03:18 PM
Have the Garmin 220.

Fairly decent watch. Does all the basics and has a heart monitor function. Can set up lap times, current pace, average pace, lap pace, can do intervals by time or distance and if fairly light to wear. Good battery life.

Couldn't fault it. Done a few runs recently without the watch and its also good to do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 50fiftyball on November 16, 2015, 12:35:10 PM
Regarding running injuries - Anyone ever had athletic pubalgia? The modern term for it is sports hernia, but I've had an ultrasound and no inguinal hernia has been found.

It's defined as: Sports activities that involve planting the feet and twisting with maximum exertion can cause a tear in the soft tissue of the lower abdomen or groin.
A sports hernia will usually cause severe pain in the groin area at the time of the injury. The pain typically gets better with rest, but comes back when you return to sports activity, especially with twisting movements.

Without treatment, this injury can result in chronic, disabling pain that prevents you from resuming sports activities.


Next step is to push the MRI, anyone ever had the surgery for it? Been doing all the associated stretching and rehabilitation to ease it for quite some time now, but after a training session/run its just back to square one, as soon as I step into the car it's a struggle to get out again the pain is that sore.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
MRI would be needed to see if there is a tear in external oblique aponeurosis and conjoint tendon. Depending on size of tear it would dictate if surgery is required. New methods of putting in a synthetic mesh to close up tear is working really well.
Rehab and multi directional running technique would be needed then. Give us PM if you need any more info or questions.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on November 16, 2015, 02:22:55 PM
I run quite a bit and was trying add a few sit ups into the mix.

however whenever i do this my (hip fixators?) go super duper tight and start cramping.

any ideas of alternatives core exercises? or exercises to lose these muscles?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on November 21, 2015, 01:25:19 PM
Anyone else run the Clontarf 1/2 this morning? Wind on the beach would cut through you - short shorts were not the right idea
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on November 21, 2015, 02:29:48 PM
Any of you pros got an opinion either way in regard to training via heart rate only.

I've been getting back into slowly but surely and by mixing it up with a bit of spinning and I've got my hands on a Garmin Fenix 2 watch so was thinking of making use of the heart monitor. Seem to recall a discussion a while back but can't find it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2015, 02:43:56 PM
It's useful for specific sessions. Cardio work essentially. In running terms easy runs, tempos and a good guideline on long runs but a bit more sparingly... Basically it's very good for making sure specific sessions are done as intended.

Wouldn't be that good for spin as you'd be doing a good bit of anaerobic work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GJL on November 23, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Not into running much but done the Blood Sweat and Tears 10k yesterday. Some craic..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on November 23, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
Done 14 miles all off road in rolling hills yesterday in new shoes. Love running off road, wearing new shoes was a terrible mistake!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 23, 2015, 10:32:53 AM
Ran the Gosford Park 10k on Saturday, part of the Born2run series. Good tight run on a testing course alebit one of the fairest runs in the park series that they run. Ran well but definitely lost a bit of the bite since the marathon.

Was good to get a run in before the local 5km this weekend, so it served its purpose.

They are great events, very well run, good atmosphere and in good locations but would struggle to justify doing many more of them at stg£19 preregistration prices. Nice to do one or two of them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 08:44:26 PM
Quote from: GJL on November 23, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Not into running much but done the Blood Sweat and Tears 10k yesterday. Some craic..

Seen a lot of photos for this, look good craic indeed
Title: Seeley Cup
Post by: No1 on November 27, 2015, 11:27:21 AM
Anyone doing the Seeley Cup 10k tomorrow? It's going to be f**king miserable!🙈

Pints afterwards are my only motivation!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on November 27, 2015, 02:27:07 PM
No not going to it - no hills, no mud = no fun going XC for the next 3 weeks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on November 30, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
Right. Thinking of stepping up my distance. got quite a bit done this year. 5k 10ks and halfs.

Thinking of doing an off road ultra, 34mile next year. with a marathon about 1 month before.

Is this doable? should I?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 6th sam on November 30, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
Shameless plug:all you runners out there are welcome to Enter "the Griddle 10k" this Sunday at noon.

5k , relay , team event , and walk also available .
Popular established race, major revamp this year.
Scenic route around St Patrick's mountain, chipped/ticked, souvenir tee shirts and other freebies available .
Nb. online entry (discounted rate) via www.athleticsni.org closes on this Wednesday 2nd December .
The perfect way to challenge yourself before Christmas !
Check out details including great video of course , strava route etc on Facebook pages  " the griddle 10k" or "Saul-Gac"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on November 30, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
Anyone running Waterford half marathon Saturday?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on December 01, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Just thought a few here may want to know, Amazon doing a deal on Asics runners

ASICS 33-Fa, Men's Running Shoes
£110 down to £44

A quality running shoe from all reports, maybe a bargin
Title: Cross Country
Post by: No1 on December 03, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
Any of our cross country lads/lasses reckon you could get away doing a race without spikes? Don't fancy forking out for a pair and then hating it and never running another one!

6th Sam, despite the unlimited horror stories I've heard I signed up for The Griddle, better be a decent spread laid on afterwards!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2015, 12:13:48 PM
I wouldn't recommend it. Some of the courses you'd be lucky to keep your trainers on for the duration of the race especially with the rain this year!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on December 03, 2015, 10:53:53 PM

Here's a very sympathetic 10K this Sunday for anybody in the region. There is a course map/profile on the Facebook page somewhere and there may be video of the route as well by Saturday. It's a good one.
Title: Re: Cross Country
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 05, 2015, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: No1 on December 03, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
Any of our cross country lads/lasses reckon you could get away doing a race without spikes? Don't fancy forking out for a pair and then hating it and never running another one!

6th Sam, despite the unlimited horror stories I've heard I signed up for The Griddle, better be a decent spread laid on afterwards!

Well No.1 good luck tomorrow at the Griddle was thinking of doing it but going to skip it after the XC today. You are signed up for the Cracker also - you will enjoy it. Scully and Rinty are supposed to be doing as well tell  them to enter ASAP. Once the limit is reached that's it no entry on the day. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on December 07, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
Done a 10 mile race at the weekend. 15% of the course off road hilly in places, came home in 1.11. Chuffed with the time :)
Had a Mini Bonk at the end - lesson learnt bring gels
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on December 07, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: pullhard on December 07, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
Done a 10 mile race at the weekend. 15% of the course off road hilly in places, came home in 1.11. Chuffed with the time :)
Had a Mini Bonk at the end - lesson learnt bring gels

Respect - you got a wee ride as well !!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 08, 2015, 09:41:34 AM
Apologies if on the wrong thread here folks.

Started getting into a fair bit of cardio/circuits at the gym recently with the aim of starting (light) weight training in the new year. Just to tone up really.

What's the general thoughts on taking protein shakes? Never taken them before. Do they work? If so which is the best on the market?

Don't want creatine or any of that weight gaining stuff.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on December 08, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
I don't use them myself. But can understand the benefits of having a lump of easy to take protein.

That said protein shakes/bars are no substitute for balanced diet. I'd take along a pre made egg white sandwich and destroy theat instead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Link on December 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Whey protein can work out at 30-50p a shake and can taste nice depending on the flavour. Obviously helpful if you don't get enough protein in your current diet and usually low in carbs/fat/calories as well when taken with water. Very convenient to have a shaker filled with a scoop of protein in your gear bag for after exercise to tide you over a bit until your next meal.

They also contain BCAAs which can help with recovery.

Does no harm if you can afford the initial outlay and maybe don't get enough protein in your current diet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 08, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
Cheers guys!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Link on December 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Whey protein can work out at 30-50p a shake and can taste nice depending on the flavour. Obviously helpful if you don't get enough protein in your current diet and usually low in carbs/fat/calories as well when taken with water. Very convenient to have a shaker filled with a scoop of protein in your gear bag for after exercise to tide you over a bit until your next meal.

They also contain BCAAs which can help with recovery.

Does no harm if you can afford the initial outlay and maybe don't get enough protein in your current diet.

Never use them and hate the bollox's at the gym who throw their powder all over the place and shake the bottle like their life depended on it.... if they'd exercise as hard as they shake that thing they'd be bigger!!

Which makes me wonder (as the vast majority at the gym use them) what the feck do they have for dinner? do they not have a balanced diet at all? and if you don't have a balanced diet surely having a protein shake wont make a hell of a difference?? Like I said I don't use them so probably ignorant to them, but in fairness I don't see a wild bit of difference in body shapes by people that use them
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 08, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Link on December 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Whey protein can work out at 30-50p a shake and can taste nice depending on the flavour. Obviously helpful if you don't get enough protein in your current diet and usually low in carbs/fat/calories as well when taken with water. Very convenient to have a shaker filled with a scoop of protein in your gear bag for after exercise to tide you over a bit until your next meal.

They also contain BCAAs which can help with recovery.

Does no harm if you can afford the initial outlay and maybe don't get enough protein in your current diet.

Never use them and hate the bollox's at the gym who throw their powder all over the place and shake the bottle like their life depended on it.... if they'd exercise as hard as they shake that thing they'd be bigger!!

Which makes me wonder (as the vast majority at the gym use them) what the feck do they have for dinner? do they not have a balanced diet at all? and if you don't have a balanced diet surely having a protein shake wont make a hell of a difference?? Like I said I don't use them so probably ignorant to them, but in fairness I don't see a wild bit of difference in body shapes by people that use them

We had a nutritionist in with the club last year and she totally ruled out using protein shakes or any other supplements. This was all on the basis that people exercising regularly should be more focused on their diets than taking shortcuts. He main point is that the body doesn't expect the protein in this form and it is forced into the body in large quantities above and in a different form than the body normally deals with.

Far more natural ways to take it in directly after exercise eg dairy products, milk, certain nuts and then eat correctly.

I like the nutri-bullet myself and can load up after a run on that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Link on December 08, 2015, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 08, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Link on December 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Whey protein can work out at 30-50p a shake and can taste nice depending on the flavour. Obviously helpful if you don't get enough protein in your current diet and usually low in carbs/fat/calories as well when taken with water. Very convenient to have a shaker filled with a scoop of protein in your gear bag for after exercise to tide you over a bit until your next meal.

They also contain BCAAs which can help with recovery.

Does no harm if you can afford the initial outlay and maybe don't get enough protein in your current diet.

Never use them and hate the bollox's at the gym who throw their powder all over the place and shake the bottle like their life depended on it.... if they'd exercise as hard as they shake that thing they'd be bigger!!

Which makes me wonder (as the vast majority at the gym use them) what the feck do they have for dinner? do they not have a balanced diet at all? and if you don't have a balanced diet surely having a protein shake wont make a hell of a difference?? Like I said I don't use them so probably ignorant to them, but in fairness I don't see a wild bit of difference in body shapes by people that use them

We had a nutritionist in with the club last year and she totally ruled out using protein shakes or any other supplements. This was all on the basis that people exercising regularly should be more focused on their diets than taking shortcuts. He main point is that the body doesn't expect the protein in this form and it is forced into the body in large quantities above and in a different form than the body normally deals with.

Far more natural ways to take it in directly after exercise eg dairy products, milk, certain nuts and then eat correctly.

I like the nutri-bullet myself and can load up after a run on that.

I agree on the whole diet thing but that's why they are called supplements. I.e. to supplement your diet, not replace it.

a protein shake has around 23-27g of protein per serving, roughly the same as 2 eggs, 1 tin of tuna, 1 chicken fillet, 1 medium sirloin steak. don't really buy the large quantities argument she uses.

i'll know to use my shaker in private round the gyms in belfast.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 08, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: Link on December 08, 2015, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Bingo on December 08, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Link on December 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Whey protein can work out at 30-50p a shake and can taste nice depending on the flavour. Obviously helpful if you don't get enough protein in your current diet and usually low in carbs/fat/calories as well when taken with water. Very convenient to have a shaker filled with a scoop of protein in your gear bag for after exercise to tide you over a bit until your next meal.

They also contain BCAAs which can help with recovery.

Does no harm if you can afford the initial outlay and maybe don't get enough protein in your current diet.

Never use them and hate the bollox's at the gym who throw their powder all over the place and shake the bottle like their life depended on it.... if they'd exercise as hard as they shake that thing they'd be bigger!!

Which makes me wonder (as the vast majority at the gym use them) what the feck do they have for dinner? do they not have a balanced diet at all? and if you don't have a balanced diet surely having a protein shake wont make a hell of a difference?? Like I said I don't use them so probably ignorant to them, but in fairness I don't see a wild bit of difference in body shapes by people that use them

We had a nutritionist in with the club last year and she totally ruled out using protein shakes or any other supplements. This was all on the basis that people exercising regularly should be more focused on their diets than taking shortcuts. He main point is that the body doesn't expect the protein in this form and it is forced into the body in large quantities above and in a different form than the body normally deals with.

Far more natural ways to take it in directly after exercise eg dairy products, milk, certain nuts and then eat correctly.

I like the nutri-bullet myself and can load up after a run on that.

I agree on the whole diet thing but that's why they are called supplements. I.e. to supplement your diet, not replace it.

a protein shake has around 23-27g of protein per serving, roughly the same as 2 eggs, 1 tin of tuna, 1 chicken fillet, 1 medium sirloin steak. don't really buy the large quantities argument she uses.

i'll know to use my shaker in private round the gyms in belfast.  ;)

I think the point was that it was unnatural and digested in an unnatural manner - hence the rush of it into the system bypassing the natural digestion and breakdown process.

And for the record, she hated the phrase supplement as it only emphasised the need to avoid them if you have a balanced diet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 20, 2015, 06:02:49 PM
Very quiet in here lads! Way down on page 5..!
Anyone doing anything at all?
Trying to keep ticking away myself but mostly indoors on the treadmill or the bike turbo trainer but trying to get at least one longish run outside a week.
Hard to get time these days/nights in fairness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on December 20, 2015, 06:30:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 20, 2015, 06:02:49 PM
Very quiet in here lads! Way down on page 5..!
Anyone doing anything at all?
Trying to keep ticking away myself but mostly indoors on the treadmill or the bike turbo trainer but trying to get at least one longish run outside a week.
Hard to get time these days/nights in fairness.

Am getting out every second day but it's a while since I've done more than 10k!

Going cycling up the mountains in the morning
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on December 21, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
A bit sporadic. Roads and forest trails in shite after recent flooding but I'm trying to do enough to keep the wolf from the door completely. A few (very slow) 6/7k's but sometimes only one a week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 23, 2015, 08:01:30 PM
(https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M82f387be29a28dfe3e0af9997a679017H0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300)

The comeback........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on December 23, 2015, 09:23:10 PM
Ways the target muppet. 10k, half marathon or full
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on December 24, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
See you in Bundoran in March Muppet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 24, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 23, 2015, 09:23:10 PM
Ways the target muppet. 10k, half marathon or full

Just to run at least 3 days a week again.

And maybe to run 5k under 25 mins comfortably.

We'll take it from there, if I get there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 25, 2015, 07:35:45 AM
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on December 01, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Just thought a few here may want to know, Amazon doing a deal on Asics runners

ASICS 33-Fa, Men's Running Shoes
£110 down to £44

A quality running shoe from all reports, maybe a bargin

Just woke up to these bad boys!!! Thanks for the heads up at the time, my good wife took the hint!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Estimator on December 27, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
Any advice on the good headphones for running? I'm not looking to break the bank, but I'm sick of all the fidgeting with the standard Apple headphones when I'm out running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: maximus on December 27, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
Got a pair of JBL bluetooth headphones for christmas less hassle when not attached 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on December 27, 2015, 04:32:52 PM
I hate listening to music when running.

Time spent running is time spent thinking about stuff or not.

I got out for a run today. 25 mins at a slow steady pace.
Don't do much of it, as it tends to slow me down and create injuries
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 29, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
Well lads is that time of the year again.
What's everyone's goals for the new year?

I've made up my mind to do the Dublin Marathon again, with an eye to sub 4hr. Probably a bit of  a stretch for me but sure we'll see.
Apart from that just improve times from 5km up.
Got my 5km just under 23mins last year so hoping to go under 22mins next.
Have signed up for a 10km in April.
I've only ever done one 10km race before and that was 3 years ago when I had just started running and was well over 50mins (53 or thereabouts) so would hope to be under 50mins for that.
Apart from that just to keep getting out for a run whenever  I can and to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on December 29, 2015, 07:03:19 PM
Any of you older runners take a wobbly after hearing about Pavel Srnicek?

Are there any straight forward checks/fitness tests that can detect underlying issues early or can simply be in the lap of the flying spaghetti monster?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2016, 12:57:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 29, 2015, 07:03:19 PM
Any of you older runners take a wobbly after hearing about Pavel Srnicek?

Are there any straight forward checks/fitness tests that can detect underlying issues early or can simply be in the lap of the flying spaghetti monster?

First run of the year, only 6K but considering I kicked out the last revellers at 3.30 and just getting over a sore heel (thanks John) and a slight twinge in my back, I'm happy enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 05, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Any good advise on a good gps watch for running? Looking to get one that monitors heart rate as well. Are these fitbits any good or what would be the best? Might look to get one in the sales now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2016, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 05, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Any good advise on a good gps watch for running? Looking to get one that monitors heart rate as well. Are these fitbits any good or what would be the best? Might look to get one in the sales now.

Garmins are quite good.. I've the 110 runner and its been great, also heart monitor with it.. Not too bulky and I've used it while doing open water swimming... Great for logging runs and setting goals, they have their own site for tracking and recording runs but I use the Strava site....

Don't use it as much now as my routes for running are mapped out but if i do a different race or away in a different country its nice to record new routes...  Downside to Gps watches is the need for charging them, some take at least 5 minutes to find a signal, once found it very rarely loses it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 06, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 05, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Any good advise on a good gps watch for running? Looking to get one that monitors heart rate as well. Are these fitbits any good or what would be the best? Might look to get one in the sales now.

I've the Garmin Forerunner 920 - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/garmin-forerunner-920xt-gps-watch-with-hrm/

it can be used for running, cycling, swimming & Triathlon mode.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on January 06, 2016, 09:10:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 25, 2015, 07:35:45 AM
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on December 01, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Just thought a few here may want to know, Amazon doing a deal on Asics runners

ASICS 33-Fa, Men's Running Shoes
£110 down to £44

A quality running shoe from all reports, maybe a bargin

Just woke up to these bad boys!!! Thanks for the heads up at the time, my good wife took the hint!!

:D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 06, 2016, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: heffo on January 06, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 05, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Any good advise on a good gps watch for running? Looking to get one that monitors heart rate as well. Are these fitbits any good or what would be the best? Might look to get one in the sales now.

I've the Garmin Forerunner 920 - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/garmin-forerunner-920xt-gps-watch-with-hrm/

it can be used for running, cycling, swimming & Triathlon mode.
Nice looking watch.
I've the 620 and I love it,it can take a while to find GPS but other than that it's great.
One peculiar thing about it though, when I upload a run to garmin express it always calls the run by location.  Which is fine, but it always seems to get the location wrong.
For example, when I do a run in the Phoenix Park it calls it  Crossmaglen running for some reason.  The map of the run will be at the Park alright but the location name is wrong. It happens with other runs also.
Anyone else ever get that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 06, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 06, 2016, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: heffo on January 06, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 05, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Any good advise on a good gps watch for running? Looking to get one that monitors heart rate as well. Are these fitbits any good or what would be the best? Might look to get one in the sales now.

I've the Garmin Forerunner 920 - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/garmin-forerunner-920xt-gps-watch-with-hrm/

it can be used for running, cycling, swimming & Triathlon mode.
Nice looking watch.
I've the 620 and I love it,it can take a while to find GPS but other than that it's great.
One peculiar thing about it though, when I upload a run to garmin express it always calls the run by location.  Which is fine, but it always seems to get the location wrong.
For example, when I do a run in the Phoenix Park it calls it  Crossmaglen running for some reason.  The map of the run will be at the Park alright but the location name is wrong. It happens with other runs also.
Anyone else ever get that?

The 920 uses cached GPS so it's pretty much instant - I have the same problem with a Garmin golf watch.

Garmin has rolled out Irish place names recently so no more Kilkeel/Crossmaglen running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
Just started the running last week and managed to get out 4 times. Nothing spectacular,just under 5 mile runs each time. Was doing roughly 8.42 min miles in the first one  :o (But to be fair I was only trying to get around the course) and yesterday was down to 7.34 per mile. Looking to do a half marathon in March. What's the best way of training? Should I just start upping the distance or is it better to get the current run down time wise first before moving up in distance?   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Completed my sencond half yesterday, have not trained for a month due to flu, finished 1.37. Please enough, Need to lose weight and put in both speed and distance work, would like to break 1.30
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 18, 2016, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Completed my sencond half yesterday, have not trained for a month due to flu, finished 1.37. Please enough, Need to lose weight and put in both speed and distance work, would like to break 1.30

Great going!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Completed my sencond half yesterday, have not trained for a month due to flu, finished 1.37. Please enough, Need to lose weight and put in both speed and distance work, would like to break 1.30

Brilliant time...  I'd imagine if you keep chipping away at it then taking 7 minutes off would be ok, what part of the race did you feel stronger? It's the last 2 miles I find that I started to sprint!! do the next one and stick to a 1.30 pacer (if they have them, most good races they do)

I've done a couple but can't beat 1.38 but I'm not a distance runner, at 5.6" I'm at a serious disadvantage  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on January 18, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
any runners here suffer from exercise induced asthma?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2016, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
any runners here suffer from exercise induced asthma?

Very much so. Especially in the cold weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 18, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
Started back running 2 weeks ago, just the 5 minutes slower on a 5k than I was in early November before I got injured; At least I've managed to knock 3 minutes off that since then.

I'd like to do a marathon but would not have the motivation to run for that long. The longest I've run so far is a 10k and did it in 51 minutes but only did that once.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on January 18, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2016, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
any runners here suffer from exercise induced asthma?

Very much so. Especially in the cold weather.

suffer from it myself. i began running a couple of years ago but can't seem to break the 5k barrier. pb is 24.30 but i want to finally do a 10k this year. i take my inhaler about 15 mins before i run which helps a bit but is there anything else i can do to improve things?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2016, 04:45:56 PM
Just use inhaler myself, but still find it tough. Get shallow breathing at times which isn't great. But usually it passes after the 2nd mile. I've a slight cold at the minute which isn't helping either.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Completed my sencond half yesterday, have not trained for a month due to flu, finished 1.37. Please enough, Need to lose weight and put in both speed and distance work, would like to break 1.30

Brilliant time...  I'd imagine if you keep chipping away at it then taking 7 minutes off would be ok, what part of the race did you feel stronger? It's the last 2 miles I find that I started to sprint!! do the next one and stick to a 1.30 pacer (if they have them, most good races they do)

I've done a couple but can't beat 1.38 but I'm not a distance runner, at 5.6" I'm at a serious disadvantage  >:(
[/quote

Felt terrible throughout thought I was going die or bonk for the last mile.
I love your suggestion about sticking to 1.30

Have asthma, controlled using symbicort, found the blue inhaler didn't work with me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
Quote from: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: pullhard on January 18, 2016, 02:21:22 PM
Completed my sencond half yesterday, have not trained for a month due to flu, finished 1.37. Please enough, Need to lose weight and put in both speed and distance work, would like to break 1.30

Brilliant time...  I'd imagine if you keep chipping away at it then taking 7 minutes off would be ok, what part of the race did you feel stronger? It's the last 2 miles I find that I started to sprint!! do the next one and stick to a 1.30 pacer (if they have them, most good races they do)

I've done a couple but can't beat 1.38 but I'm not a distance runner, at 5.6" I'm at a serious disadvantage  >:(
[/quote

Felt terrible throughout thought I was going die or bonk for the last mile.
I love your suggestion about sticking to 1.30

Have asthma, controlled using symbicort, found the blue inhaler didn't work with me

Pacers are a good target....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 19, 2016, 09:13:15 AM
 Working down in Cork city next week. Anyone know of anywhere I can go for a run in the evening other than run on city streets or hotel treadmill. Somewhere like a well lit park.I'm staying right in the centre of the city.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
We'll say from the Clarion head towards Pairc Ui Chaoigh, head down along the river there and it will eventually lead onto a nice path that runs over to Mahon and eventually Rochestown, its a lovely run, just turn and come back when you're half way through!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 19, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
We'll say from the Clarion head towards Pairc Ui Chaoigh, head down along the river there and it will eventually lead onto a nice path that runs over to Mahon and eventually Rochestown, its a lovely run, just turn and come back when you're half way through!
Cheers. I'm staying in the Metropole, think that's near enough the Clarion so a route like that sounds good. Would it be a well lit route?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2016, 02:22:31 PM
Yes, well enough I think, not street light level but its busy, theres always people on it

I would feel safe on it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on January 19, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
What the best way to train to break the 1.30 mark for half marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Two key things are tempo running and long runs.

Tempo is threshold type running. It will get your body used to running at more stressful paces.

All the above and hills will increase your strength.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2016, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2016, 02:22:31 PM
Yes, well enough I think, not street light level but its busy, theres always people on it

I would feel safe on it
Cheers Mayo4Sam.
I had(for all of 1 millisecond) considered doing hill repeats on Patricks Hill... ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on January 25, 2016, 11:36:02 AM
Birthday present to myself booked into a half marathon in May and a highly rated club 5 miler in April.

Going to stick like glue to this http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51133/Half-Marathon-Advanced-Training-Program (http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51133/Half-Marathon-Advanced-Training-Program) and try and out of eating shite! would love to break 1.30, a big ask from 1.37.

Also planning to do a few longer runs as the evenings stretch out have to 35 milers in mind, make a day of it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 26, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
Anyone doing the Raheny 5 mile at this Sunday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 26, 2016, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 26, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
Anyone doing the Raheny 5 mile at this Sunday?

Looking forward to it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on January 28, 2016, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2016, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
any runners here suffer from exercise induced asthma?

Very much so. Especially in the cold weather.

Change your breathing technique;

http://www.buteyko.com/index.html (http://www.buteyko.com/index.html)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2016, 04:18:29 PM
I had it for a few months the other year and had to pull out of 2 races over it.

You can get an inhaler which should help you but mine only manifested itself when I was pretty much on the edge in races.

Mine was only temporary after training on a chest infection so thanksfully cleared in ~6 months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 28, 2016, 07:55:38 PM
If anyone happens to be in Bordeaux on Saturday 18th June for the Ireland V Belgium game, I have tracked down a parkrun on the outskirts of town. Hangover permitting, I hope to be there. Anyone else ?
http://www.parkrun.fr/lesdougnes/course/ 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 01, 2016, 10:10:08 AM
Guys in order to help/prevent niggling injuries like groin/hip flexors and so forth does taking fish oil supplements work? If so any you'd recommend? Cheers!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on February 01, 2016, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on January 26, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
Anyone doing the Raheny 5 mile at this Sunday?

Did you do it? Enjoyable race yesterday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on February 01, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
I did Heffo, it was a good event, i think around 3k started, came in a minute and a half under my target, so not bad for January. The route was a bit flatter this year, due to the roadworks done on the seafront, maybe that helped my time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on February 01, 2016, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on February 01, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
I did Heffo, it was a good event, i think around 3k started, came in a minute and a half under my target, so not bad for January. The route was a bit flatter this year, due to the roadworks done on the seafront, maybe that helped my time.

Great running!

Good event, enjoyed it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
What were your times before you started the interval training?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
What were your times before you started the interval training?

44 mins. 21 for 5km
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
What were your times before you started the interval training?

44 mins. 21 for 5km
Do you feel the intervals really gave you the boost to go faster? Did you mix it up with long slow runs also or was it all just intervals you did?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
What were your times before you started the interval training?

44 mins. 21 for 5km
Do you feel the intervals really gave you the boost to go faster? Did you mix it up with long slow runs also or was it all just intervals you did?

mixed in long runs as well but nothing over 12km which i guess is not really that long. i cant see how the long runs would help tho.  just wondering if i could keep a 4.15 pace for 21k's. i think it might be possible but il not find out til i do an actual race i guess
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 02, 2016, 08:56:45 AM
Hill Repeats? What format should they take? Over what length and climb should you be looking for? And how many/ how long should you do them for? I haven't a clue!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2016, 09:01:13 AM
Hill repeats are all about form over speed. They are to build efficiency.

They should be ~1 minute long with a reasonably steep, but not too steep, incline and you should start with about 6 and build to about 16 upping by 2 reps every 2 weeks.

Key thing is form and you should be doing the last one in the same time as the first.

Intervals are great too and both have their place in a training program. They can be both be used in a well periodised program. Short intervals will improve you very quickly but will only improve you for 4-8 weeks so doing them indefinitely won't keep improving you.

The idea is build the strength prior to intervals then build on the strength with the speed. Speed comes from strength is our coach's motto...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 02, 2016, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on February 01, 2016, 11:18:03 AM
thanks to some serious interval training, 3.30 1km repeats with 500 m jog in between, i can now do a 41 minute 10km. Never raced a half marathon before but do you think 90 mins is achievable? thanks
What were your times before you started the interval training?

44 mins. 21 for 5km
Do you feel the intervals really gave you the boost to go faster? Did you mix it up with long slow runs also or was it all just intervals you did?

mixed in long runs as well but nothing over 12km which i guess is not really that long. i cant see how the long runs would help tho.  just wondering if i could keep a 4.15 pace for 21k's. i think it might be possible but il not find out til i do an actual race i guess

Long runs (90-120 mins) will bring you on no end, a slow pace. Its probably whats holding you back from a sub 20 and sub 40 5k/10k if you're doing 3.30/km intervals. Also I'd mix them up. Try maybe 3k-1.5k-500m, progressively faster. 2 x3k, 4x1500m etc. How many repeats of the 1k are you doing and are you holding the 3.30?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2016, 10:04:41 PM
A long run is a must. 10 mile min i wouod say. Speed will get you good 5k but you'll die off in a 10k...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 03, 2016, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2016, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on February 01, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
I did Heffo, it was a good event, i think around 3k started, came in a minute and a half under my target, so not bad for January. The route was a bit flatter this year, due to the roadworks done on the seafront, maybe that helped my time.

Great running!

Good event, enjoyed it

I see our Mary Cullen won the ladies race in a pretty tasty time. Exceptionally talented athlete who has been unlucky with injuries etc over the years. She's determined to go to Rio and should be able to do the qualifying times for 5000 and 10000 if she stays healthy. We've never had a female Olympian from Sligo (only two men ever) so it would be great to see. Good luck to her.
Title: Ben Dearg Coast 10k
Post by: No1 on February 10, 2016, 10:07:19 PM
Kilclief GAC's annual 10k race coming up on Sunday 28 February.  Starts at 1pm from St Malachy's Park, Kilclief (couple of mile outside Strangford).  A nice flat out and back course.  5k option also on offer.

It clashes with the Down V Kerry game in Newry but not being at that might be a blessing in disguise for some of us!  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 18, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Been doing a few 10K runs lately. about 1 a week. Not races just on my own. No great times. Then did a 11 mile run at the weekend (Preparing for a Half). But I've had a pain in the sole of my foot since. Really sore when walking. I don't think I've broken anything but feels like really bad bruised. Any ideas of what it might be and what to do? Don't really want to rest too long given the timeframe for the half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 18, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 18, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Been doing a few 10K runs lately. about 1 a week. Not races just on my own. No great times. Then did a 11 mile run at the weekend (Preparing for a Half). But I've had a pain in the sole of my foot since. Really sore when walking. I don't think I've broken anything but feels like really bad bruised. Any ideas of what it might be and what to do? Don't really want to rest too long given the timeframe for the half.
Recommend seeing your local sports physician or chartered physiotherapist. Likely to be nothing serious but best off getting it looked at for A) accurate diagnosis B) find out what caused problem in 1st place.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bod Mor on February 19, 2016, 02:32:29 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 18, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 18, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Been doing a few 10K runs lately. about 1 a week. Not races just on my own. No great times. Then did a 11 mile run at the weekend (Preparing for a Half). But I've had a pain in the sole of my foot since. Really sore when walking. I don't think I've broken anything but feels like really bad bruised. Any ideas of what it might be and what to do? Don't really want to rest too long given the timeframe for the half.
Recommend seeing your local sports physician or chartered physiotherapist. Likely to be nothing serious but best off getting it looked at for A) accurate diagnosis B) find out what caused problem in 1st place.
This is going to sound mental to some people but I had something similar before and guess how I overcame it? More running! The old saying run it off isn't a myth.
I did Connemarathon last year and it was absolutely brilliant. Just wish I was back home for it this year. A seriously well organised event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on February 19, 2016, 05:58:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 18, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 18, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Been doing a few 10K runs lately. about 1 a week. Not races just on my own. No great times. Then did a 11 mile run at the weekend (Preparing for a Half). But I've had a pain in the sole of my foot since. Really sore when walking. I don't think I've broken anything but feels like really bad bruised. Any ideas of what it might be and what to do? Don't really want to rest too long given the timeframe for the half.
Recommend seeing your local sports physician or chartered physiotherapist. Likely to be nothing serious but best off getting it looked at for A) accurate diagnosis B) find out what caused problem in 1st place.

Sounds like Plantar Fasciitis:

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/plantar-fasciitis-topic-overview

But defitinely have it looked at
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 21, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on February 19, 2016, 05:58:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 18, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 18, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Been doing a few 10K runs lately. about 1 a week. Not races just on my own. No great times. Then did a 11 mile run at the weekend (Preparing for a Half). But I've had a pain in the sole of my foot since. Really sore when walking. I don't think I've broken anything but feels like really bad bruised. Any ideas of what it might be and what to do? Don't really want to rest too long given the timeframe for the half.
Recommend seeing your local sports physician or chartered physiotherapist. Likely to be nothing serious but best off getting it looked at for A) accurate diagnosis B) find out what caused problem in 1st place.

Sounds like Plantar Fasciitis:

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/plantar-fasciitis-topic-overview

But defitinely have it looked at

Sounds like Plantar Fasciitis alright. I had it for a year. Pure torture and very sore.

Tried a number of different stretching techniques and using a bottle of ice to roll it. It ended up it was the type of trainers I was using to run. Unbelievable what a difference if makes when you get the right fit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on February 22, 2016, 10:29:11 AM
ciara seems to be coming into a bit of form;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35625546 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/35625546)

Ciara Mageean set her second Irish indoor record in a fortnight as she placed sixth in the women's Wanamaker Mile at the Millrose Games in New York.

Hopefully she'll still be available for the Ballygalget 10K on Easter Sunday, not sure if we can afford the appearance fee anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on February 25, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
Just set a new 5k pb and achieved one of my years goals, 19 min 5k, I wanted under 20 so delighted, considering im training for a half marathon.

Other goals are to 10k in under 40mins and half mararthon in under 1.30
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 26, 2016, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: pullhard on February 25, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
Just set a new 5k pb and achieved one of my years goals, 19 min 5k, I wanted under 20 so delighted, considering im training for a half marathon.

Fair play.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on February 26, 2016, 03:02:34 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 26, 2016, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: pullhard on February 25, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
Just set a new 5k pb and achieved one of my years goals, 19 min 5k, I wanted under 20 so delighted, considering im training for a half marathon.

Fair play.

+1. Great running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 03, 2016, 11:07:36 AM
Was given an Aloe Vera rub for my foot and have to say it's done wonders for it.

I'm aiming to do the Omagh Half Marathon now at the end of March. We did a trial one a couple of weeks ago and took 1hr 47mins. Was hoping to get it down to the 1hr 40 mark. What would the chances be of dropping 7 mins in a couple of weeks? This is my first time doing anything over 10K mark. I know some people say the buzz of a race should help to take some time of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on March 03, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This is always a good event for anyone on the North West

http://carabundoranrun.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 22, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
Very quiet here of late - I did the Craic 10k in Belfast Paddy's Day - great day for it and good route - managed my first sub 45 time but there was a fuk up with the chip timing and we only got our 'gun' time, need to get another one soon enough to have a registered sub 45!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnneycool on March 22, 2016, 02:19:37 PM
If you're in the vicinity of the Ards peninsula on Sunday, our club is running its annual 10K;

https://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/BallygalgetCommunityRoadRace (https://online.athleticsni.org/ps/event/BallygalgetCommunityRoadRace)


Midday start, lovely views of the Irish Sea...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 22, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
Very quiet here of late - I did the Craic 10k in Belfast Paddy's Day - great day for it and good route - managed my first sub 45 time but there was a fuk up with the chip timing and we only got our 'gun' time, need to get another one soon enough to have a registered sub 45!
Very quiet indeed. Fair play on the sub 45.I have the Spar Great Ireland 10k in a few weeks.
After not doing much running after the Dublin Half Marathon last September I let my fitness drop considerably,but have really given it a good go since January and have my 5k time back down to where it was last summer at around 22'45 so hoping for a good time in the 10k.
I feel with proper training I can get my 5k down past sub 22 maybe even sub 21 so might give it a good go over the summer.
Still planning on doing the Dublin Marathon this year also.

Anyone else doing anything? muppet, magpie?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 22, 2016, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 22, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 22, 2016, 02:14:45 PM
Very quiet here of late - I did the Craic 10k in Belfast Paddy's Day - great day for it and good route - managed my first sub 45 time but there was a fuk up with the chip timing and we only got our 'gun' time, need to get another one soon enough to have a registered sub 45!
Very quiet indeed. Fair play on the sub 45.I have the Spar Great Ireland 10k in a few weeks.
After not doing much running after the Dublin Half Marathon last September I let my fitness drop considerably,but have really given it a good go since January and have my 5k time back down to where it was last summer at around 22'45 so hoping for a good time in the 10k.
I feel with proper training I can get my 5k down past sub 22 maybe even sub 21 so might give it a good go over the summer.
Still planning on doing the Dublin Marathon this year also.

Anyone else doing anything? muppet, magpie?
Fair play, sub 21 is definitely a solid target with consistent training.
Getting my mojo back in last few weeks....going to target a 5K pb in June-July all going well.
Not doing a marathon this year, just will concentrate on 5k-10k.
Hope to go back to Boston in April 2017 for marathon, time from Amsterdam last year will get me in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 22, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Disaster since mid February. Had a good 4/5 weeks done to bring me back to a fair enough level but have been sick on and off since. f**king pissed off, can't seem to shake this and get going again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on March 22, 2016, 10:28:39 PM
Anyone done (or doing) the Mourne Way Marathon? I'm in training for it at the moment - June 11th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 11:21:59 PM
looking to do the Titanic 10K but my daughter is looking to do it also.... Is there a age limit to this? my youngest is 12 but keen to try a proper race but noticed that it says minimum 16, is that the norm for these races?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 11:21:59 PM
looking to do the Titanic 10K but my daughter is looking to do it also.... Is there a age limit to this? my youngest is 12 but keen to try a proper race but noticed that it says minimum 16, is that the norm for these races?

Is there not a kids race before it?

I think 10ks are minimum 16.  I think most ,if not all, adult races are unless specific underage races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 11:21:59 PM
looking to do the Titanic 10K but my daughter is looking to do it also.... Is there a age limit to this? my youngest is 12 but keen to try a proper race but noticed that it says minimum 16, is that the norm for these races?

Is there not a kids race before it?

I think 10ks are minimum 16.  I think most ,if not all, adult races are unless specific underage races.
First race is 1 mile, took youngest out for 6k run today, would not be embarrassed at all considering her time
Yes defo minimum 16... But really didn't think it was the case
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Wondering if anyone is doing Connemara on April 10th? Always a good way to kick off the year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 31, 2016, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Wondering if anyone is doing Connemara on April 10th? Always a good way to kick off the year.
Sadists who came up with that course. Lovely scenery.....in a car!!
Best of luck An Gaeilgoir!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2016, 08:18:46 AM
I went for a long run yesterday evening(what a beautiful evening it was too!) and half way through I got what I can only describe as pins and needles or a numbness like sensation in my left foot. It lasted for a few miles and then went.
What could be the reason for something like that? It felt weird but didn't hurt so I just kept running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on April 01, 2016, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 01, 2016, 08:18:46 AM
I went for a long run yesterday evening(what a beautiful evening it was too!) and half way through I got what I can only describe as pins and needles or a numbness like sensation in my left foot. It lasted for a few miles and then went.
What could be the reason for something like that? It felt weird but didn't hurt so I just kept running.
Does your foot feel numb as well? I used to get this changed my trainers n doesn't happen anymore. Mind you I'm only a casual runner but still was weird when I got felt like I could easily topple over.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 04, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 31, 2016, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on March 31, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Wondering if anyone is doing Connemara on April 10th? Always a good way to kick off the year.
Sadists who came up with that course. Lovely scenery.....in a car!!
Best of luck An Gaeilgoir!

Have a lot of work done for it around the hills of Tourmakeady... looking forward to it..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 11, 2016, 11:22:18 AM
Anyone else do the Great Ireland run in the Phoenix Park yesterday?
Windy and Hilly!
First 5k was fine,the second half was torture.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 11, 2016, 11:26:42 AM
Not as Hilly and  windy as Connemara yesterday! ;D, after a couple of years of slippage, it was back to its best yesterday, managed to know 13 minutes off last years time and bagged a new PB for the half....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 11, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
Good man fair play.
You going to do Dublin Marathon again this year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 11, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
No, mainly do the halves now, cant commit to the time or the training, would run a half most weeks, either in training or in a race, its a distance that suits me. The memories of Roebuck road are still too fresh in the memory to go through all that again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
Anyone care to recommend a good book that will help cover things with regards to training for longer distances? Ideally one that will include how the hell to use a heart rate monitor to help improve times. I generally just google things, but would be interested in reading an in-depth approach that would cover diet, training, recovery etc.

TIA
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 11, 2016, 02:39:06 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on April 11, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
No, mainly do the halves now, cant commit to the time or the training, would run a half most weeks, either in training or in a race, its a distance that suits me. The memories of Roebuck road are still too fresh in the memory to go through all that again.
Aye, we were in some state when I met you at the bottom of Roebuck alright!
I never felt pain like it before or since.
I'm going to give it another go this year hopefully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 11, 2016, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
Anyone care to recommend a good book that will help cover things with regards to training for longer distances? Ideally one that will include how the hell to use a heart rate monitor to help improve times. I generally just google things, but would be interested in reading an in-depth approach that would cover diet, training, recovery etc.

TIA
A few of us on here bought a book called Heart rate training for the compleat idiot by John L Parker
I use it now and again but can never really stick to training just by heart rate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
I would swear by that book true blue. It explains it well and there are some training schedules in there.

Heart rate training takes discipline but it really is worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
Cheers guys, does it cover the like of diet, how to prepare for the race etc as well or is it all Heart rate focused?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 12, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
Cheers guys, does it cover the like of diet, how to prepare for the race etc as well or is it all Heart rate focused?

I wouldn't worry too much about your diet
If you're worried about losing weight then it will naturally fall off you once you're training hard. Take it handy on the booze and takeaways. Don't eat too late at night

If its nutrition, my advice would be to eat sensibly, not too many carbs, try and get protein into you as soon as you can after a hard session. Have a good balance to your diet, keep the portions in check. Don't eat immediately before you go running. If you're doing longer distances see what works for you. I don't find gels much use but other swear by them, others get sick from them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 12, 2016, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 12, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
Cheers guys, does it cover the like of diet, how to prepare for the race etc as well or is it all Heart rate focused?

I wouldn't worry too much about your diet
If you're worried about losing weight then it will naturally fall off you once you're training hard. Take it handy on the booze and takeaways. Don't eat too late at night

If its nutrition, my advice would be to eat sensibly, not too many carbs, try and get protein into you as soon as you can after a hard session. Have a good balance to your diet, keep the portions in check. Don't eat immediately before you go running. If you're doing longer distances see what works for you. I don't find gels much use but other swear by them, others get sick from them.

Yeah it was more the nutrition side of things. I've tried gels and am a bit meh on them to be honest. I don't know if they help or hinder as some of them are a struggle to swallow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
If you use the 70% heart rate rule for your cardio you will be able to go longer and that will help if you're worried on weight. Once you start running 90 minutes plus regularly the weight drops off.

Gels for what - long runs? I've only ever went 90 minutes to 2 hours and have never really seen the need for them... They are just things you have to get used to if you want them or there are glucose tablets i think i know some people take?

Wholewheat pasta, brown rice and porridge are your friends as a runner... (Probably sweet potatoes too I think??)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on April 12, 2016, 12:06:29 PM
In the last marathon i did, a couple of years ago, the gels gave me the runs  :-[ Made the mistake of not using at all in training.

I'm back in training for another marathon this June. Anyone recommend a good alternative to the gels for refuelling during the race? I was thinking of using a carbohydrate drink?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 12, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
If you use the 70% heart rate rule for your cardio you will be able to go longer and that will help if you're worried on weight. Once you start running 90 minutes plus regularly the weight drops off.

Gels for what - long runs? I've only ever went 90 minutes to 2 hours and have never really seen the need for them... They are just things you have to get used to if you want them or there are glucose tablets i think i know some people take?

Wholewheat pasta, brown rice and porridge are your friends as a runner... (Probably sweet potatoes too I think??)

Yeah for half marathon I used them. I know some others swear by the jelly beans. I struggle with the gels to be honest so would try and avoid if I could, but I know others really rate them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 12, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 12, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
If you use the 70% heart rate rule for your cardio you will be able to go longer and that will help if you're worried on weight. Once you start running 90 minutes plus regularly the weight drops off.

Gels for what - long runs? I've only ever went 90 minutes to 2 hours and have never really seen the need for them... They are just things you have to get used to if you want them or there are glucose tablets i think i know some people take?

Wholewheat pasta, brown rice and porridge are your friends as a runner... (Probably sweet potatoes too I think??)

Yeah for half marathon I used them. I know some others swear by the jelly beans. I struggle with the gels to be honest so would try and avoid if I could, but I know others really rate them.

What i find brilliant for a boost during long runs are club milks! A mate of mine swears by dried apricots and dates, each to their own i suppose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 12, 2016, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 11, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
Cheers guys, does it cover the like of diet, how to prepare for the race etc as well or is it all Heart rate focused?

I would recommend it, if I was running that is. But when I was running it changed everything for me within a month.

Here are used versions starting at $0.79 plus $3.99 shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1891369849/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr= (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1891369849/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=)

Can't go wrong with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 12, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
The reason I keep giving up on the heart rate training is I hate wearing the heart rate strap on my chest. It drives me mad after a while.
Are the new watches that measure your HR from your wrist any good? I'd buy one if I thought they were accurate enough because I do think the HR training does work.
I think Garmin have one .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2016, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on April 12, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 12, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
If you use the 70% heart rate rule for your cardio you will be able to go longer and that will help if you're worried on weight. Once you start running 90 minutes plus regularly the weight drops off.

Gels for what - long runs? I've only ever went 90 minutes to 2 hours and have never really seen the need for them... They are just things you have to get used to if you want them or there are glucose tablets i think i know some people take?

Wholewheat pasta, brown rice and porridge are your friends as a runner... (Probably sweet potatoes too I think??)

Yeah for half marathon I used them. I know some others swear by the jelly beans. I struggle with the gels to be honest so would try and avoid if I could, but I know others really rate them.

What i find brilliant for a boost during long runs are club milks! A mate of mine swears by dried apricots and dates, each to their own i suppose.
I used jelly for triathlons
just the basic bar of jelly straight off the supermarket shelf
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on April 13, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

I would suggest that you just go out and run consistently (at least 4/5 times a week for a month or 2 - min. 20 miles/ week)  without having any particular goal in mind. When you get a bit of fitness/endurance going, maybe then target an event. There is no way a 4 or 5k should be leaving you sore in fairness. If they are, you are just not fit at all.

On a different note I did Manchester Marathon on Sunday. Not great. My 3rd fastest time over the distance but wheels started coming off a long way off and it was a disappointment as regards time. I've already given myself several reasons why it went pear-shaped but we all know reasons are just excuses and to hell with that.
Apart from my time I was a but disappointed by the event. The route is nowhere near the city centre and has little character.
The collection of belongings after was a joke. People who were 4/5 hours out on the road spent up to another 3 hours standing in a queue to pick up their bags after. The first time I ve ever seen a Q that was literally a mile long! And the Q was 2/3 wide. It snaked around the stands of the cricked ground in several folds. Fair play to English folk - the stiff upper lip still exists and they are prepared to queue for ever  and put up with any hardship without much complaint. You could see why they were willing to obey orders, and take over the world for their betters. 
They had 15,000 runners and they will be lucky to get half that after that mess. They were lucky it was a decent afternoon weather-wise.
A windy wet day there would have been serious issues with hypothermia. It was ridiculous and left a sour taste. 
The event itself could be a lot better if they got the afters sorted. Nobody wants to battle their way out through a crowd and Q for any length of time after a marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 13, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

Snap. Except I am probably in worse shape. When I stopped getting even close to PBs last summer, I lost all interest and haven't even run for last orders in 6 months.

I need major motivation and in that regard I am thinking of targeting the big one in October.

Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb: http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months (http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 13, 2016, 06:45:06 PM
Quote from: moysider on April 13, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

I would suggest that you just go out and run consistently (at least 4/5 times a week for a month or 2 - min. 20 miles/ week)  without having any particular goal in mind. When you get a bit of fitness/endurance going, maybe then target an event. There is no way a 4 or 5k should be leaving you sore in fairness. If they are, you are just not fit at all.

On a different note I did Manchester Marathon on Sunday. Not great. My 3rd fastest time over the distance but wheels started coming off a long way off and it was a disappointment as regards time. I've already given myself several reasons why it went pear-shaped but we all know reasons are just excuses and to hell with that.
Apart from my time I was a but disappointed by the event. The route is nowhere near the city centre and has little character.
The collection of belongings after was a joke. People who were 4/5 hours out on the road spent up to another 3 hours standing in a queue to pick up their bags after. The first time I ve ever seen a Q that was literally a mile long! And the Q was 2/3 wide. It snaked around the stands of the cricked ground in several folds. Fair play to English folk - the stiff upper lip still exists and they are prepared to queue for ever  and put up with any hardship without much complaint. You could see why they were willing to obey orders, and take over the world for their betters. 
They had 15,000 runners and they will be lucky to get half that after that mess. They were lucky it was a decent afternoon weather-wise.
A windy wet day there would have been serious issues with hypothermia. It was ridiculous and left a sour taste. 
The event itself could be a lot better if they got the afters sorted. Nobody wants to battle their way out through a crowd and Q for any length of time after a marathon.
That'll surely dent their intentions to be top UK marathon after London. Heard course is flat though? Manchester wouldn't be the most aesthetically pleasing place at the best of times...like most UK cities.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on April 13, 2016, 07:10:52 PM
Well done Moysider, sounds a bad show and that's a reminder of how well organised Dublin is. Muppet and MS- find your nearest parkrun. It's a great job for rebuilding the commitment and getting the old buzz again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 13, 2016, 07:20:14 PM
Interesting development that is affecting one Parkrun in England. The local authority want to charge Parkrun for the use of its park.

Argument for: 300 runners every Saturday means extra maintenance

Argument against: the majority of runners already pay council tax for the upkeep of the parks

The council voted for. This could be the first of many, north and south.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2016, 07:28:12 PM
It was a 5-4 vote in favour with a few abstaining from what i read.

There was a problem in cardiff a few years ago too.

Really don't think it will take off. The councils fund these things as it helps them meet targets for adult participation so it scratches their back too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 13, 2016, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 13, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

Snap. Except I am probably in worse shape. When I stopped getting even close to PBs last summer, I lost all interest and haven't even run for last orders in 6 months.

I need major motivation and in that regard I am thinking of targeting the big one in October.

Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb: http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months (http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months)
Good luck lads. Get a few runs under the belt and you'll have the buzz back soon enough.
See you at the start line in October muppet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 13, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 13, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

Snap. Except I am probably in worse shape. When I stopped getting even close to PBs last summer, I lost all interest and haven't even run for last orders in 6 months.

I need major motivation and in that regard I am thinking of targeting the big one in October.

Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb: http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months (http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months)

Best of luck Muppet, special commemorative DCM medal this year too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 13, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 13, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

Snap. Except I am probably in worse shape. When I stopped getting even close to PBs last summer, I lost all interest and haven't even run for last orders in 6 months.

I need major motivation and in that regard I am thinking of targeting the big one in October.

Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb: http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months (http://www.active.com/running/articles/how-to-go-from-zero-to-marathon-in-six-months)
Same here. MS I felt the same after my first run since Jan. Lungs were burning!! But I've been here before and know it will get easier. Did a 10k pb this time last year.
Maybe Lisburn 10k for me in June.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 13, 2016, 11:24:35 PM
Thanks for the support.

They say the first thing you should do to reach your goal, is to write it down. They probably didn't have writing it here in mind though.  :D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on April 17, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 13, 2016, 06:45:06 PM
Quote from: moysider on April 13, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 12, 2016, 11:36:03 PM
Right lads and lassies. I'm getting back into it but I'm in bad shape. Struggled to do 4.5k last week and couldn't walk properly for couple of days. Did 5k this evening and worried about the stairs the next few days but this has gone too far. Need a target to work towards but the next 3 weeks are just to get some sort of strength back into the legs. No Warriors Run for me this year, fairly sure I'm going to be away that weekend. Think a half marathon would be a good challenge.

I would suggest that you just go out and run consistently (at least 4/5 times a week for a month or 2 - min. 20 miles/ week)  without having any particular goal in mind. When you get a bit of fitness/endurance going, maybe then target an event. There is no way a 4 or 5k should be leaving you sore in fairness. If they are, you are just not fit at all.

On a different note I did Manchester Marathon on Sunday. Not great. My 3rd fastest time over the distance but wheels started coming off a long way off and it was a disappointment as regards time. I've already given myself several reasons why it went pear-shaped but we all know reasons are just excuses and to hell with that.
Apart from my time I was a but disappointed by the event. The route is nowhere near the city centre and has little character.
The collection of belongings after was a joke. People who were 4/5 hours out on the road spent up to another 3 hours standing in a queue to pick up their bags after. The first time I ve ever seen a Q that was literally a mile long! And the Q was 2/3 wide. It snaked around the stands of the cricked ground in several folds. Fair play to English folk - the stiff upper lip still exists and they are prepared to queue for ever  and put up with any hardship without much complaint. You could see why they were willing to obey orders, and take over the world for their betters. 
They had 15,000 runners and they will be lucky to get half that after that mess. They were lucky it was a decent afternoon weather-wise.
A windy wet day there would have been serious issues with hypothermia. It was ridiculous and left a sour taste. 
The event itself could be a lot better if they got the afters sorted. Nobody wants to battle their way out through a crowd and Q for any length of time after a marathon.
That'll surely dent their intentions to be top UK marathon after London. Heard course is flat though? Manchester wouldn't be the most aesthetically pleasing place at the best of times...like most UK cities.

Yeah, it's as flat as you could hope for. Apart from maybe one of the delta marathons in Holland or Berlin and Cologne - flattened courtesy of allied bombing 70 yrs. ago.
Manchester emailed participants with an apology and a half-price entry offer for next year. Sure, I ll have to go back now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 11:53:36 AM
You all use GPS watches while running? I'm looking something suitable for a beginner. cheap and cheerful. I've no real need for heart rate monitors etc. any recommendations?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 18, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 11:53:36 AM
You all use GPS watches while running? I'm looking something suitable for a beginner. cheap and cheerful. I've no real need for heart rate monitors etc. any recommendations?
Elverys have the Garmin 10 for €120 or thereabouts.
Doubt you'll buy a decent gps watch for much cheaper, unless you buy second hand on ebay maybe
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 18, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 11:53:36 AM
You all use GPS watches while running? I'm looking something suitable for a beginner. cheap and cheerful. I've no real need for heart rate monitors etc. any recommendations?
Elverys have the Garmin 10 for €120 or thereabouts.
Doubt you'll buy a decent gps watch for much cheaper, unless you buy second hand on ebay maybe

I'm thinking ebay alright.  Garmin seems to be the best? always seem to read poor reviews for the likes of Nike+ and Soleus watches.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 18, 2016, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 18, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 11:53:36 AM
You all use GPS watches while running? I'm looking something suitable for a beginner. cheap and cheerful. I've no real need for heart rate monitors etc. any recommendations?
Elverys have the Garmin 10 for €120 or thereabouts.
Doubt you'll buy a decent gps watch for much cheaper, unless you buy second hand on ebay maybe

I'm thinking ebay alright.  Garmin seems to be the best? always seem to read poor reviews for the likes of Nike+ and Soleus watches.
My first watch was a nike+ watch. It was grand but as i started getting more into running I wanted a watch with more features etc.
I have a garmin 610 now. I think i paid €160 for it secondhand on ebay. It has everything I need at the moment. I am interested in these new watches that measure your heart rate via your wrist though.
Google DC Rainmaker. He has some excellent reviews of nearly all the gps watches on the market.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 18, 2016, 02:49:28 PM
cheers, good man.  If the wrist heart rate monitors are like smartwatch ones then they are supposed to be inaccurate. But then I know little about it too   :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on April 18, 2016, 10:31:40 PM
Haven't checked in in absolutely ages!
Have signed up for Belfast & Derry marathons in the next couple of months. Hoping to get around in something starting with a 3 in both then I'll train properly for Dublin. Only able to get two runs a week in due to work and family commitments. Ran a small club marathon a couple of weeks ago in 3.38 but it was a dead flat 3 lap circuit. Ran the second half of Belfast early on Sunday - not looking forward to the industrial estate but I suppose it has to be done.

Watches - I have a cheap Garmin - does the trick! Cost £80 on Amazon.
Foodwise, I eat a snickers at mile 14 and 20 if I need it. Don't like them and wouldn't eat one ordinarily but they give me the boost I need when running over 20 miles. I eat it on the run with an energy drink.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 18, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: CD on April 18, 2016, 10:31:40 PM
Haven't checked in in absolutely ages!
Have signed up for Belfast & Derry marathons in the next couple of months. Hoping to get around in something starting with a 3 in both then I'll train properly for Dublin. Only able to get two runs a week in due to work and family commitments. Ran a small club marathon a couple of weeks ago in 3.38 but it was a dead flat 3 lap circuit. Ran the second half of Belfast early on Sunday - not looking forward to the industrial estate but I suppose it has to be done.

Watches - I have a cheap Garmin - does the trick! Cost £80 on Amazon.
Foodwise, I eat a snickers at mile 14 and 20 if I need it. Don't like them and wouldn't eat one ordinarily but they give me the boost I need when running over 20 miles. I eat it on the run with an energy drink.

This sounds far better than gels or such.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on April 19, 2016, 12:17:56 AM

I have a Garmin 220. Great yoke. Great battery life. I charged it before Manchester and wear it as an ordinary watch as well and it still has battery life. Plus I've done a few runs with it still as well. It came with a HR monitor as well. I don t use that because if I did I'd probably stop running!!! Another Garmin can do the heart rate without the belt - off the wrist pulse I assume.

I bought a Polar RC3 on special offer in Halfords about a year ago. Can be used on a bike as well and supposed to be the business but have never used it. If you keep an eye out there some very good deals show up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 19, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 18, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: CD on April 18, 2016, 10:31:40 PM
Haven't checked in in absolutely ages!
Have signed up for Belfast & Derry marathons in the next couple of months. Hoping to get around in something starting with a 3 in both then I'll train properly for Dublin. Only able to get two runs a week in due to work and family commitments. Ran a small club marathon a couple of weeks ago in 3.38 but it was a dead flat 3 lap circuit. Ran the second half of Belfast early on Sunday - not looking forward to the industrial estate but I suppose it has to be done.

Watches - I have a cheap Garmin - does the trick! Cost £80 on Amazon.
Foodwise, I eat a snickers at mile 14 and 20 if I need it. Don't like them and wouldn't eat one ordinarily but they give me the boost I need when running over 20 miles. I eat it on the run with an energy drink.

This sounds far better than gels or such.

Great idea! i used to hate the gels when i was at the stage of doing longer runs.

Think i'm gonna go with something like a Garmin FR10.  Looks reasonably priced and a good entry point
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on April 19, 2016, 11:31:10 AM
Bought one of those Garmin watches recently. Find it great for the activity tracker which measures how far you've traveled during the day. It's a great little motivator to do a bit more as you're going along. I'd jog to the shop now instead of driving etc. and am just generally more inclined to keep moving and spend(waste) less time sitting down. Very expensive but well worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on April 20, 2016, 06:42:39 PM
I would stay away from the Garmin 405. The strap has broke twice on mine, the second time completely fecked it - the plastic lug broke and now the only way to fix it is a home diy superglue and duct tape job. I've since seen on the forums that this is a common enough problem with the 405 - though apparently not an issue with their other models, such as the 610.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
London Marathon on BBC atm,is there anyone from here doing it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 24, 2016, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
London Marathon on BBC atm,is there anyone from here doing it?
They'll hardly be posting on here if they are  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 24, 2016, 10:18:52 AM
The top elite runners are just insane to look at.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 24, 2016, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
London Marathon on BBC atm,is there anyone from here doing it?
They'll hardly be posting on here if they are  ;)
Shut up.
Someone may know of someone doing it.
When are you starting your c25k...its been 4 years now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 12:04:18 PM
Some finish! 10 seconds off the World Record!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 5 Sams on April 24, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 12:04:18 PM
Some finish! 10 seconds off the World Record!

Looks like didn't realise he was so close to the record!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BenDover on April 25, 2016, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: laoislad on April 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
London Marathon on BBC atm,is there anyone from here doing it?
One of our coaches completed it in 4:27, amazing achievement considering the max miles he did in training was 14.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
I knew a few doing it from local. Times were up and down with one guy's being excellent and various other guys who've broke 3 hours regularly running about 3:10.

A wee girl from somewhere in Down(Laura Graham) did really well - ran 2:48 I think I read she has about 4 kids too and only got into running recently so some going.

Some fast Irish times. LL I think your man Hehir was doing it??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
I knew a few doing it from local. Times were up and down with one guy's being excellent and various other guys who've broke 3 hours regularly running about 3:10.

A wee girl from somewhere in Down(Laura Graham) did really well - ran 2:48 I think I read she has about 4 kids too and only got into running recently so some going.

Some fast Irish times. LL I think your man Hehir was doing it??

A mate of mine did it in 3.38 on his 50th birthday! Great way to spend your 50th
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 25, 2016, 11:01:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
I knew a few doing it from local. Times were up and down with one guy's being excellent and various other guys who've broke 3 hours regularly running about 3:10.

A wee girl from somewhere in Down(Laura Graham) did really well - ran 2:48 I think I read she has about 4 kids too and only got into running recently so some going.

Some fast Irish times. LL I think your man Hehir was doing it??
He was. I think he was trying to get an Olympic qualifying time but missed out on it but still set a new PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 11:53:37 AM
I don't think any of the Irish guys aiming for olympic qualifying time got it yesterday. I think maybe 4 Irish guys have it already though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Karl Kennedy on April 28, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Lads any good running watches out there that simply records time and distance? I did have a garmin with heart rate etc but it was too fancy. Simply want a nice one that does the time and tells distance accurately.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2016, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: Karl Kennedy on April 28, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Lads any good running watches out there that simply records time and distance? I did have a garmin with heart rate etc but it was too fancy. Simply want a nice one that does the time and tells distance accurately.

One of these plus a watch?

(http://khaiphat.vn/upload/sanpham/347695.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on April 29, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Karl Kennedy on April 28, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Lads any good running watches out there that simply records time and distance? I did have a garmin with heart rate etc but it was too fancy. Simply want a nice one that does the time and tells distance accurately.

Garmin Forerunner 110. Dead basic and simple to use if all you are looking is distance and time. Good battery life and I've had mine 3 years and used at least every other day and not one bit of bother (f**ker will probably blow up now)!! Not sure if they are still on the market though, try Amazon or eBay.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 11:43:56 AM
Quote from: No1 on April 29, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Karl Kennedy on April 28, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Lads any good running watches out there that simply records time and distance? I did have a garmin with heart rate etc but it was too fancy. Simply want a nice one that does the time and tells distance accurately.

Garmin Forerunner 110. Dead basic and simple to use if all you are looking is distance and time. Good battery life and I've had mine 3 years and used at least every other day and not one bit of bother (f**ker will probably blow up now)!! Not sure if they are still on the market though, try Amazon or eBay.

Exactly same as mine, Ive the heart monitor also that runs well with it... can take maybe 5 minutes sometimes to find a signal but grand when it does
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 02, 2016, 08:59:40 PM
Just entered the ballot for next years London Marathon its only opened for a few days if anyone wants to enter.
I see Brendan Rodgers did the Belfast one today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 08, 2016, 10:40:51 AM
Battling my way back from the couch (slowly, very slowly) and just wondering what you guys listen to on your runs. Am sure it has been asked here before but not trawling back through 342 pages! Any good podcasts ye would recommend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 08, 2016, 10:49:49 AM
I'd only bring the ipod occasionally on a run but when I do its usually on a long run and I'd listen to podcasts more so than music.The Graham Hunter podcasts are pretty good and can pass an hour easily when on a run. The interview he did with Damien Duff was excellent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on May 08, 2016, 11:56:37 AM
Cool. He's a good listen alright. I go through phases but at the moment I need shit to listen to because it's a little uncomfortable building back up to any sort of level. Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on May 08, 2016, 12:16:29 PM
Does anyone know if the Bohermeen 5km is relatively flat and favourable for PRs? Done Royal county last week and last 3km climbing and serious wind into face.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2016, 04:14:40 PM
http://fb.me/4I6j6nzwk (http://fb.me/4I6j6nzwk)

Great video from irish universities that has went viral.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on May 10, 2016, 09:45:33 PM
I've got a half marathon on sunday, but chafed badly around my nuts on a long run last week. any tips to aid recovery?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 10, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
What is it about running in the rain!
Just in the door from a 10k run in the lashings of rain, fecking loved every second of it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Hell and Back race on this weekend in Monaghan.... Anyone doing it? Or done before? 100 of us doing it on Saturday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleafgael on May 19, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Hell and Back race on this weekend in Monaghan.... Anyone doing it? Or done before? 100 of us doing it on Saturday

Monaghan? Is there two of them on this weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 19, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Hell and Back race on this weekend in Monaghan.... Anyone doing it? Or done before? 100 of us doing it on Saturday

Monaghan? Is there two of them on this weekend?

I'm sure its Monaghan ... well I'm getting picked up at 9.. my wave starts at 12... where is the other one? Bray? must be some money maker

21 MAY
HELL & BACK Zeus
Saturday at 10:30
Baronscourt Estate
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on May 19, 2016, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 19, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Hell and Back race on this weekend in Monaghan.... Anyone doing it? Or done before? 100 of us doing it on Saturday

Monaghan? Is there two of them on this weekend?

I'm sure its Monaghan ... well I'm getting picked up at 9.. my wave starts at 12... where is the other one? Bray? must be some money maker

21 MAY
HELL & BACK Zeus
Saturday at 10:30
Baronscourt Estate

Is the Baronscourt Estate not in Newtonstewart, Co.Tyrone?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 19, 2016, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 19, 2016, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Hell and Back race on this weekend in Monaghan.... Anyone doing it? Or done before? 100 of us doing it on Saturday

Monaghan? Is there two of them on this weekend?

I'm sure its Monaghan ... well I'm getting picked up at 9.. my wave starts at 12... where is the other one? Bray? must be some money maker

21 MAY
HELL & BACK Zeus
Saturday at 10:30
Baronscourt Estate

Is the Baronscourt Estate not in Newtonstewart, Co.Tyrone?

Haven't a foggy.... Someone said Monaghan... Tyrone it is then
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Was doing C25K last year and was all set to do my first parkrun before getting a trapped nerve in my back. That, plus leaving Ireland set me back and I fell away from it. Have started again in the last couple of weeks and have been doing runs here that are just under 5k (between 4.4. and 4.6), but they're up a hill and back down. It's a pretty steep f**king hill (Montjuic in Barcelona for those of you who know it) with the total ascent being about 90m.

Am hoping to do a few more weeks of this and perhaps a slightly longer route to get the distance into my legs before running my first 5k (at last!), but my question is how does hill running translate to the flat? This morning I ran the hill route in 25.49 and while there may have been a little bit of scope for pushing the pace more on the uphill section, it wouldn0t be much. I have in my head that I'd like to be able to dip under 25 mins for 5k. Is this feasible at this stage?

Still hate the f**king thing, so no sign of that bug you spoke of Laoislad. It would want to hurry the f**k up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Was doing C25K last year and was all set to do my first parkrun before getting a trapped nerve in my back. That, plus leaving Ireland set me back and I fell away from it. Have started again in the last couple of weeks and have been doing runs here that are just under 5k (between 4.4. and 4.6), but they're up a hill and back down. It's a pretty steep f**king hill (Montjuic in Barcelona for those of you who know it) with the total ascent being about 90m.

Am hoping to do a few more weeks of this and perhaps a slightly longer route to get the distance into my legs before running my first 5k (at last!), but my question is how does hill running translate to the flat? This morning I ran the hill route in 25.49 and while there may have been a little bit of scope for pushing the pace more on the uphill section, it wouldn0t be much. I have in my head that I'd like to be able to dip under 25 mins for 5k. Is this feasible at this stage?

Still hate the f**king thing, so no sign of that bug you spoke of Laoislad. It would want to hurry the f**k up!

I think you will easily break 25 mins if you are training on a hill. Just find a flat track and a race environment will pull you along.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
I think you will easily break 25 mins if you are training on a hill. Just find a flat track and a race environment will pull you along.

Even if the training is only half on the hill? It was 2.3km uphill (at what I worked out to be about 4% gradient) and then the other half back down the same way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2016, 10:46:06 AM
The best way to train for these things is not to go flat out on your runs and aim for times...

Aim for the times in parkruns etc and use the runs to increase fitness to begin with. You'd actually benefit more from doing that loop twice at a slower pace.

What you're doing will improve you but not as much as a slower run more beneficial to your cardio. (Assuming you are running hard all the time!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
I've run five times in the last eleven days - no method to it, just running up the hill and back down. Today was first day I really tried to push it a bit more. At this stage I just want to run and finish a 5k and was hoping to do that in the 25 mins as mentioned - I hadn't considered doind any sort of programmed training. Would I be best starting that already?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Was doing C25K last year and was all set to do my first parkrun before getting a trapped nerve in my back. That, plus leaving Ireland set me back and I fell away from it. Have started again in the last couple of weeks and have been doing runs here that are just under 5k (between 4.4. and 4.6), but they're up a hill and back down. It's a pretty steep f**king hill (Montjuic in Barcelona for those of you who know it) with the total ascent being about 90m.

Am hoping to do a few more weeks of this and perhaps a slightly longer route to get the distance into my legs before running my first 5k (at last!), but my question is how does hill running translate to the flat? This morning I ran the hill route in 25.49 and while there may have been a little bit of scope for pushing the pace more on the uphill section, it wouldn0t be much. I have in my head that I'd like to be able to dip under 25 mins for 5k. Is this feasible at this stage?

Still hate the f**king thing, so no sign of that bug you spoke of Laoislad. It would want to hurry the f**k up!
Maybe if stopped running up hills all the time you would start to enjoy it!!
Seriously though hills are great and I actually love doing them but you should maybe do some interval sessions on a flat surface?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
I think you will easily break 25 mins if you are training on a hill. Just find a flat track and a race environment will pull you along.

Even if the training is only half on the hill? It was 2.3km uphill (at what I worked out to be about 4% gradient) and then the other half back down the same way.

I think so. Running down hill isn't that easy either. Flat is easier either way. As said above, do a parkrun (there doesn't appear to be any in Spain) or find a local 5k race and you will break 25mins. 

Here is one in August: https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona (https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona)

There was one a few days ago unfortunately.

There seems to be loads of 10k runs but very few 5ks in Barcelona. Maybe if you are home some weekend do a parkrun for free. Remember to sign up online for your barcode to get a time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
I think you will easily break 25 mins if you are training on a hill. Just find a flat track and a race environment will pull you along.

Even if the training is only half on the hill? It was 2.3km uphill (at what I worked out to be about 4% gradient) and then the other half back down the same way.

I think so. Running down hill isn't that easy either. Flat is easier either way. As said above, do a parkrun (there doesn't appear to be any in Spain) or find a local 5k race and you will break 25mins. 

Here is one in August: https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona (https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona)

There was one a few days ago unfortunately.

There seems to be loads of 10k runs but very few 5ks in Barcelona. Maybe if you are home some weekend do a parkrun for free. Remember to sign up online for your barcode to get a time.

Yes, I signed up for PArkrun last year before banjaxing myself. The above is an "event race" - obstacle course etc. I'd signed up for one in September but now have to go to a wedding for it ffs.

Had planned on doing them any time I'm home in Belfast or Dublin, but nothing booked yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2016, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 25, 2016, 10:16:19 AM
I think you will easily break 25 mins if you are training on a hill. Just find a flat track and a race environment will pull you along.

Even if the training is only half on the hill? It was 2.3km uphill (at what I worked out to be about 4% gradient) and then the other half back down the same way.

I think so. Running down hill isn't that easy either. Flat is easier either way. As said above, do a parkrun (there doesn't appear to be any in Spain) or find a local 5k race and you will break 25mins. 

Here is one in August: https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona (https://www.mynextrun.com/color-obstacle-rush-barcelona)

There was one a few days ago unfortunately.

There seems to be loads of 10k runs but very few 5ks in Barcelona. Maybe if you are home some weekend do a parkrun for free. Remember to sign up online for your barcode to get a time.

Yes, I signed up for PArkrun last year before banjaxing myself. The above is an "event race" - obstacle course etc. I'd signed up for one in September but now have to go to a wedding for it ffs.

Had planned on doing them any time I'm home in Belfast or Dublin, but nothing booked yet.

Ah right, hard to get a pb then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
Yeah, it's a pain in the arse of a city to run in actually - vast majority of system is in blocks, so you hit traffic lights all the time. That's one of the reasons I've been doing the hill run - it's a decent uniterrupted stretch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
Yeah, it's a pain in the arse of a city to run in actually - vast majority of system is in blocks, so you hit traffic lights all the time. That's one of the reasons I've been doing the hill run - it's a decent uniterrupted stretch.

bound to be parks with a track walking area around it!! map out a 5k and away ya go?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2016, 02:07:57 PM
Have you gotten back into it yet muppet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on May 25, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
I notice on Strava that they give you a Gradient Adjusted Pace (GAP) that translates your hill efforts into an estimate of what your pace might have been on the flat. Not sure how accurate it is though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2016, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Clov on May 25, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
I notice on Strava that they give you a Gradient Adjusted Pace (GAP) that translates your hill efforts into an estimate of what your pace might have been on the flat. Not sure how accurate it is though.
I've always wondered what that was.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2016, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 25, 2016, 02:07:57 PM
Have you gotten back into it yet muppet?

Very slowly. Up to 8k and 28 mins for 5.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2016, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 25, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
I've run five times in the last eleven days - no method to it, just running up the hill and back down. Today was first day I really tried to push it a bit more. At this stage I just want to run and finish a 5k and was hoping to do that in the 25 mins as mentioned - I hadn't considered doind any sort of programmed training. Would I be best starting that already?

Basic structure - build cardio, build strength then build speed.

If you run longer slower for a bit , ie a month or two, your cardio will build up. While it sounds counter intuitive to run slower and get faster it actually works really well when you are starting out at the running.

After that then build in hill reps,fartleks,controlled faster running etc but if you use slow runs as your training runs for a while you will see a lot of gain. Longer does not mean miles and miles - even 8k would do if your current is 5 or 6 or whatever.

Basically train slow and run hard in your parkrun for a bit... You will also enjoy it more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 30, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
Anyone here do the Newry marathon yesterday? It was a hot one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 31, 2016, 11:11:58 PM
Done newry half marathon on Sunday, serious heat to run in. Enjoyed it though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 05, 2016, 03:54:00 PM
Anyone know where I can find Derry marathon results? A work colleague was doing it (his first marathon) and hoping he did ok. Not great weather for running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on June 05, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Back out running again these last few weeks.  When i wasn't running I didn't miss it but now I'm back out I look forward to runs now. Entered the big one in October again and been out training with a lad who is a lot fitter than me but it has dragged me on well. Ran 5 miles the other night in 44 minutes and that would be way above the level I was at in 2014.  Hoping to break 4 hrs 30 in October which would be a big drop from 4.55 last time round. As long as I see the finish line though I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
Either champion chip ireland or ni running seanie. I have seen placings but there were no times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 05, 2016, 09:08:32 PM
I got the results via a link on the race FB page. Guy I know did a good time for his first marathon considering the heat.

Went out for a run myself there earlier and am wrecked after it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 05, 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 05, 2016, 09:08:32 PM
I got the results via a link on the race FB page. Guy I know did a good time for his first marathon considering the heat.

Went out for a run myself there earlier and am wrecked after it.


Some heat though in fairness seanie.
Just back myself from a 8miler and wearing a heartstrap. Pace was way slower than it normally is at 70%. Must be the heat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on June 07, 2016, 07:47:42 AM
looking to do a bit of running lads so advice would be appreciated. Haven't ran anything since I done Liverpool half marathon a few years ago 1.57 with no training. Where should I start? (I do crossfit if that's any help)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Verticalball on June 08, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
New to the forum folks, looking a bit of advice. I've been running on and off for 4-5 years now, started to get knee pain and a scan showed that it's patellar tendonitis. Basically I want to get back to running as the one target I have is to complete the Dublin Marathon having completed Belfast twice  and was wondering if anyone has advice to speed up the process? I've been told to cycle but it seems to be flaring up rather than helping, to hit the weights to strengthen the leg muscles which I have been doing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 08, 2016, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: Verticalball on June 08, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
New to the forum folks, looking a bit of advice. I've been running on and off for 4-5 years now, started to get knee pain and a scan showed that it's patellar tendonitis. Basically I want to get back to running as the one target I have is to complete the Dublin Marathon having completed Belfast twice  and was wondering if anyone has advice to speed up the process? I've been told to cycle but it seems to be flaring up rather than helping, to hit the weights to strengthen the leg muscles which I have been doing.

Obviously I think most people will tell you to go to a physio but aside from that:

Swimming - great cross training non-impact cardio
S&C classes - great for your core - take it handy on the knee until you know yourself what you can and can't do
Try a static bike or turbo for the cycling

I'm doing a marathon in two weeks doing less than four weeks running training and mainly cross training as above..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 08, 2016, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 04:03:41 PM

I'm doing a marathon in two weeks doing less than four weeks running training and mainly cross training as above..
Which one you doing.

I signed up for the Rock n Roll Half in a few months. If I remember rightly you did that last year didn't you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 08, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2016, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 04:03:41 PM

I'm doing a marathon in two weeks doing less than four weeks running training and mainly cross training as above..
Which one you doing.

I signed up for the Rock n Roll Half in a few months. If I remember rightly you did that last year didn't you?

Waterford - I'll let you know how it works out - could be a disaster yet!

Really enjoyed Rock n roll last year - good route
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Lads Stevey McGeown is running the perimeter of Ireland - he started 8 days ago and is doing 39.3 miles a day for 60 consecutive days to raise money for 3 great charities.  For the runners on here who could join him for a few miles or for those of you who would donate a few shillings...
https://give.everydayhero.com/ie/steveys-epic-adventure-1 (https://give.everydayhero.com/ie/steveys-epic-adventure-1)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2016, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Lads Stevey McGeown is running the perimeter of Ireland - he started 8 days ago and is doing 39.3 miles a day for 60 consecutive days to raise money for 3 great charities.  For the runners on here who could join him for a few miles or for those of you who would donate a few shillings...
https://give.everydayhero.com/ie/steveys-epic-adventure-1 (https://give.everydayhero.com/ie/steveys-epic-adventure-1)

Fair play to him, that is some challenge.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 09, 2016, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2016, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 04:03:41 PM

I'm doing a marathon in two weeks doing less than four weeks running training and mainly cross training as above..
Which one you doing.

I signed up for the Rock n Roll Half in a few months. If I remember rightly you did that last year didn't you?

Waterford - I'll let you know how it works out - could be a disaster yet!

Really enjoyed Rock n roll last year - good route
Is there pacers at the rock n roll half?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 09, 2016, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 09, 2016, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2016, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 08, 2016, 04:03:41 PM

I'm doing a marathon in two weeks doing less than four weeks running training and mainly cross training as above..
Which one you doing.

I signed up for the Rock n Roll Half in a few months. If I remember rightly you did that last year didn't you?

Waterford - I'll let you know how it works out - could be a disaster yet!

Really enjoyed Rock n roll last year - good route
Is there pacers at the rock n roll half?

I don't remember seeing any last year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 09, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
So I bought a fancy Garmin 225 (ebay second hand €90 bargin)with a heart rate sensor built into the wrist.
I've tried hr training before and always hated wearing the strap on my chest but liked the results I was getting so I'm hoping the watch will help me stick at it.
Anyways my question is..I had thought Zone 2 was the right zone for long runs/easy runs.
The garmin has a screen telling you what zone you are in. What has me confused is the aerobic zone as they call it is zone 3 70% to 80% HRR.
I believed zone 2 was the aerobic zone.
See attached picture for the different zones as per the watch.
So what zone should I be in for those lovely long easy runs.
(http://garminforerunner.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Forerunner-225-Screens-Heart-Rate.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on June 10, 2016, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 09, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
So I bought a fancy Garmin 225 (ebay second hand €90 bargin)with a heart rate sensor built into the wrist.
I've tried hr training before and always hated wearing the strap on my chest but liked the results I was getting so I'm hoping the watch will help me stick at it.
Anyways my question is..I had thought Zone 2 was the right zone for long runs/easy runs.
The garmin has a screen telling you what zone you are in. What has me confused is the aerobic zone as they call it is zone 3 70% to 80% HRR.
I believed zone 2 was the aerobic zone.
See attached picture for the different zones as per the watch.
So what zone should I be in for those lovely long easy runs.
(http://garminforerunner.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Forerunner-225-Screens-Heart-Rate.jpg)

My understanding = Z2

Are you calculating your HR manually or did you have a VO2 max test done?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2016, 09:44:02 AM
I used a treadmill to do 3 x 3min hill repeats and got a max of 196.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 10, 2016, 03:04:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 10, 2016, 09:44:02 AM
I used a treadmill to do 3 x 3min hill repeats and got a max of 196.


Just shows you how far off those 220 minus your age averages are.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2016, 03:04:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 10, 2016, 09:44:02 AM
I used a treadmill to do 3 x 3min hill repeats and got a max of 196.


Just shows you how far off those 220 minus your age averages are.  ;D
Did the Irish Runner 5 mile at the weekend and recorded a max of 200 going up the final hill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 15, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 15, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 10, 2016, 03:04:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 10, 2016, 09:44:02 AM
I used a treadmill to do 3 x 3min hill repeats and got a max of 196.


Just shows you how far off those 220 minus your age averages are.  ;D
Did the Irish Runner 5 mile at the weekend and recorded a max of 200 going up the final hill.

That means you are 20 years old according to those averages.

When is your 21st?   :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 15, 2016, 08:08:17 PM
Ah crap. I think I missed him by a matter of an hour or two. He went by my house today. One of the few times not being on Facebook has been regrettable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Iceman on June 16, 2016, 12:23:11 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 15, 2016, 08:08:17 PM
Ah crap. I think I missed him by a matter of an hour or two. He went by my house today. One of the few times not being on Facebook has been regrettable.
http://steveysepicadventure.com/routes-2/ (http://steveysepicadventure.com/routes-2/)
This outlines the route he is on -he's running tomorrow from Roscommon in to Mayo - Cashelbar... If you click on the expansion button you'll see the exact road.

any of the freestaters on here who fancy doing a few mile or having the wee ones make a sign or whatever for Stevey please try to show your support. He had some swelling and ligament damage there but has thankfully gotten over it and is trucking on!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on June 17, 2016, 02:08:21 PM
I'm not a runner.....but I have recently ran a 10km and a 5km, both chipped. My 10km time was just under 48 minutes, 4 days later I ran the 5km in just over 21 minutes. I pushed fairly hard in the 5km but felt reasonably comfortable, I was blowing out of my ar*e after the 10km and felt awful throughout.

My exercise schedule consists of going to the gym 3 times a week (and occasionally a spin class). My gym work is usually 15 minutes of cardio and about 25 minutes of weights/core work. I am just about the right weight for my height, maybe need to drop a couple of pounds but nothing major.

Due to other commitments I am unable to get much more time to train, so its about 45mins 3 times a week.

Is it a realistic aim to get my 10km time to below 45mins without ditching the gym and concentrating on doing a bit more running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2016, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on June 17, 2016, 02:08:21 PM
I'm not a runner.....but I have recently ran a 10km and a 5km, both chipped. My 10km time was just under 48 minutes, 4 days later I ran the 5km in just over 21 minutes. I pushed fairly hard in the 5km but felt reasonably comfortable, I was blowing out of my ar*e after the 10km and felt awful throughout.

My exercise schedule consists of going to the gym 3 times a week (and occasionally a spin class). My gym work is usually 15 minutes of cardio and about 25 minutes of weights/core work. I am just about the right weight for my height, maybe need to drop a couple of pounds but nothing major.

Due to other commitments I am unable to get much more time to train, so its about 45mins 3 times a week.

Is it a realistic aim to get my 10km time to below 45mins without ditching the gym and concentrating on doing a bit more running?
I hate people like you.! The I don't run but I can run a 21min 5k types... Fcuk you and your natural athletic ability....
I'm joking of course(or am I....)
I'm pretty sure if you take up running a bit more your times will drop. You may just need to get some 10k endurance up because your 5k time would say you would be able to go well under 45 for a 10k.
Others on here will be able advise you better than me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
What do you do in the gym? I broke 40 a year or two after starting running with a few times a week. It is possible but you need very good cardio.

It's not the recommended way to do it. To get better at running the best way is to run... Running races flat out without the fitness is very demanding and unless you have a high pain threshold will not work!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on June 17, 2016, 04:35:36 PM
Laoislad - it is far from natural athletic ability and more to do with pig ignorance!

Appreciate the responses from you both. The thing is, I enjoy the gym, and I don't know if I would use the word enjoy when out running. Perhaps if I dedicate a bit more time to running for a month or two I will know better if it something I will grow to like.

In the gym I do 15 minutes of HIIT cardio on either treadmill, bike or rowing machine. My weights/core work is fairly basic but it clears the head and that's the important thing for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 17, 2016, 05:07:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 17, 2016, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on June 17, 2016, 02:08:21 PM
I'm not a runner.....but I have recently ran a 10km and a 5km, both chipped. My 10km time was just under 48 minutes, 4 days later I ran the 5km in just over 21 minutes. I pushed fairly hard in the 5km but felt reasonably comfortable, I was blowing out of my ar*e after the 10km and felt awful throughout.

My exercise schedule consists of going to the gym 3 times a week (and occasionally a spin class). My gym work is usually 15 minutes of cardio and about 25 minutes of weights/core work. I am just about the right weight for my height, maybe need to drop a couple of pounds but nothing major.

Due to other commitments I am unable to get much more time to train, so its about 45mins 3 times a week.

Is it a realistic aim to get my 10km time to below 45mins without ditching the gym and concentrating on doing a bit more running?
I hate people like you.! The I don't run but I can run a 21min 5k types... Fcuk you and your natural athletic ability....
I'm joking of course(or am I....)
I'm pretty sure if you take up running a bit more your times will drop. You may just need to get some 10k endurance up because your 5k time would say you would be able to go well under 45 for a 10k.
Others on here will be able advise you better than me.

1. First get your BMI up to as close to 30 as you can, without the wife leaving. You can even borrow her pregnancy pants, but don't buy bigger clothes as this is just a temporary measure. Feel free to post up a picture.
2. Then talk about running as often as you can. Seek her support, she will really, really appreciate it. This stage can last anything from a couple of months to nearly a decade.
3. Then download the App 'couch to a 21 min 5k'. Enter your data and when the App refuses start you on the training plan, buy a garmin.
4. Then get Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot (https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Monitor-Training-Compleat-Idiot/dp/1891369849) written by imtommygunn (for myself, Laoislad, Tony Baloney and Seanie - apparently Tony wan't a Compleat Idiot).
5. Buy a heart monitor chest strap (extra large if you followed step 1 properly).
6. When you finally start running, post here, as often as you can, your 5k times starting with something well over 30 minutes. If you find yourself starting off with a 'I ran the 5km in just over 21 minutes' then you are doing it all wrong and go back to step 1. Later, you will have a greater appreciation of the purity of endeavour of starting at 37 minutes and improving from there.
7. You will know you are doing it right when:
    a) You are blowing hard walking out the door;
    b) The wife is standing outside the door with rosary beads upon your return;
    c) You never made it out of the driveway;
    d) You post this workout on FaceBook you get two hundred sympathy likes;
8. Then, when you finally get to your 21 minutes 5k, you will have earned it! And some of us will say 'well done' when you do a 45 min 10k, and might even meant it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2016, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on June 17, 2016, 04:35:36 PM
Laoislad - it is far from natural athletic ability and more to do with pig ignorance!

Appreciate the responses from you both. The thing is, I enjoy the gym, and I don't know if I would use the word enjoy when out running. Perhaps if I dedicate a bit more time to running for a month or two I will know better if it something I will grow to like.

In the gym I do 15 minutes of HIIT cardio on either treadmill, bike or rowing machine. My weights/core work is fairly basic but it clears the head and that's the important thing for me.
If it was just all about pig ignorance then I would have the 2nd fastest 5k time in the world...magpie seanie would be world record holder  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside or just in front of me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him ffs ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2016, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him.

Doing my first ParkRun in a long time shortly. Lovely day for it. Hoping to break 28 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 18, 2016, 09:13:06 AM
As the world record holder I wish you well Muppet. 😀
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 10:49:20 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside or just in front of me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him ffs ;D
;D i think we've all been there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside or just in front of me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him ffs ;D

He probably wondered why you were shouting 'I got ya Seanie ya bollix!' at him.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 18, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside or just in front of me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him ffs ;D

He probably wondered why you were shouting 'I got ya Seanie ya bollix!' at him.
:D
It was the 'Keane 16' on the back of the jersey that really made me want to beat him!

How did the Park Run go?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2016, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 18, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 18, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Pig ignorance is a must have quality for endurance runners!! Have thrown up loads of times at end of races trying to make sure someone else didn't beat me!
There was a guy in a Man United jersey that was beside or just in front of me most of the race in a 5 mile I did last weekend. There was no way I was letting him cross the line before me. I busted a gut in the last 100yards to get past him!! He probably didn't even know I was trying to beat him ffs ;D

He probably wondered why you were shouting 'I got ya Seanie ya bollix!' at him.
:D
It was the 'Keane 16' on the back of the jersey that really made me want to beat him!

How did the Park Run go?

I thought I improved by nearly 5 minutes to just over 23 mins! I was absolutely delighted until I realised the stupid App was saying I ran 23.1km! The GPS must have screwed up.

Looks like I ran just over 26 mins which would be great, but after the above I am waiting for the proper time to be posted to be sure. Happy enough with the run though.

Edit: Just broke 26 so very happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 10:47:29 AM
Out with the girlfriend today and had mapped out a 7k run that was the longest we'd ever have done as taking advice here about running for further and longer with the speed following afterwards. Last night suggested why don't we really focus on our pace and try and do 10k or run for an hour or whatever.

Ended up doing the full 10 and it wasn't a bother to either of us. Was slow and controlled and I'm a long way from a 50 min 10k but couldn't believe that we found the distance and time so manageable. Could easily have done another three or four k's too.

Home for the weekend in a couple of weeks so will do a park run. My 25 min target for my first one is probably a little ambitious but f**k it, we'll see!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
If you are doing one in belfast the falls one is not good for time as there are big hills in it...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
If you are doing one in belfast the falls one is not good for time as there are big hills in it...

Shankill in Dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
If you are doing one in belfast the falls one is not good for time as there are big hills in it...

Shankill in Dublin.

Long way from home  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
If you are doing one in belfast the falls one is not good for time as there are big hills in it...

Shankill in Dublin.

Long way from home  ;)

But an awful lot closer than I am now ;)

On that not, running through the summer over here in Spain is going to be pretty much in constant sunshine. Anybody got any recommendations for running sunglasses/caps/visors etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2016, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
If you are doing one in belfast the falls one is not good for time as there are big hills in it...

Shankill in Dublin.

Long way from home  ;)

But an awful lot closer than I am now ;)

On that not, running through the summer over here in Spain is going to be pretty much in constant sunshine. Anybody got any recommendations for running sunglasses/caps/visors etc?

Get up first thing, when on holidays I get up at around 7.30 and blast out a six miler, every day, that's been Tenerife, American, mainland Spain, and France... Early run sorts you out for the day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
I'm running early, so it's not the heat I'm worried about, it's the actual glare from the sun.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2016, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 19, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
I'm running early, so it's not the heat I'm worried about, it's the actual glare from the sun.

Oh, Cap (as I've no hair) is always a must and glasses are optional then, but if you're only running for 50 odd minutes depending on distance then it shouldn't be a problem to wear either hat or glasses..... Visor looks so 80's!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on July 03, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
What would you allow for the treadmill compare to on the ground running?  Did a 10k there on the tread and was not near usual time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 03, 2016, 03:46:49 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on July 03, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
What would you allow for the treadmill compare to on the ground running?  Did a 10k there on the tread and was not near usual time.
I bought a treadmill after Christmas when they were on sale in Elverys. Nothing fancy but its grand for when it's raining.
I did notice it was taking me longer for the same distance on it than it would outside.
I then bought a garmin footpod,paired it with my watch and calibrated it outside. When I run with it on the treadmill it shows me I'm running faster than the treadmill shows.
For example if I was running at say 12kph on treadmill which is roughly 8min/mile the footpod will say I'm running at 7.20 min/miles which is over 13kph.
I dunno which is more accurate the foot pod or treadmill but I'm not that bothered as I really only use it for short runs or hill intervals.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 03, 2016, 05:12:39 PM
I am obviously getting old.

Is 'footpod' Tommy Carr for runner?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 04, 2016, 01:00:36 AM
Disastrous month of June when I'd got a bit of a base built up. Only geo out once or twice a week which has me way back. I was away in London for two weeks and I thought I'd run every day but it was a disaster, not entirely my fault, work ran late most evenings.

Anyway - had a decent if slow 6k this evening so hopefully that's the line in the sand. Athlone half marathon in September is the target but a lot to do to get into shape for that.
Title: European Championships
Post by: No1 on July 10, 2016, 06:09:51 PM
Super run by Portaferry camog Ciara Mageean earlier today to pick up European bronze for the women's 1500m. Starting to gear up for Rio!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2016, 06:27:35 PM
Fee great runs around Hyde park and Kensington gardens this week, great spot for running and talent!!
Title: Re: European Championships
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: No1 on July 10, 2016, 06:09:51 PM
Super run by Portaferry camog Ciara Mageean earlier today to pick up European bronze for the women's 1500m. Starting to gear up for Rio!

Great run and i think she can do a lot better too. Class athlete. Her and mark english are best we've got.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 10, 2016, 08:36:19 PM
Trying to get back into a bit of running again after years out with 2/3 regular 3 to 4 mile runs in each week in addition to 2 strength and conditioning sessions. However the past week or so have been getting a real stiffness and soreness in my my knees just below my kneecap on the inside leg. It's particularly sore going up and down stairs. Not sure if it's my feet position or if it's just my knees getting used to running again or something else. Once I get going l can usually run it off but the next day it's back with a bang. Anyone any ideas or had anything similar?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on July 11, 2016, 08:07:45 AM
Has anyone done any obstacle course racing before? Thinking of doing Born Survivor here in Manchester in September
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 11, 2016, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 11, 2016, 08:07:45 AM
Has anyone done any obstacle course racing before? Thinking of doing Born Survivor here in Manchester in September

I've done a few of them here in Perth - would totally recommend them, for people of all fitness ranges.

Did the Tough Mudder, which is 19 or 20km, with 3 lads who really wanted to push for a good time, was a tough slog but great craic. Also did an 8km last year with a group who just wanted to finish it - we jogged most of it and helped each other out. Very enjoyable
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon. I got a rush of blood to the head over the weekend, no backing out now! Also signed up for Gaelforce in August.

The Joyce Country challenge is on this Saturday morning too...

If anyone is looking for a good running club in North Dublin, I recently joined the Dublin Bay Running Club, its a great small and new club, we do two laps of the hill of Howth twice a week (22K), Tuesdays and Thursdays @6.30, with some Bootcamp training sessions thrown in too, 55 Euros a year and off you go. All fitness levels are catered for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 11, 2016, 03:17:35 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon. I got a rush of blood to the head over the weekend, no backing out now! Also signed up for Gaelforce in August.

The Joyce Country challenge is on this Saturday morning too...

If anyone is looking for a good running club in North Dublin, I recently joined the Dublin Bay Running Club, its a great small and new club, we do two laps of the hill of Howth twice a week (22K), Tuesdays and Thursdays @6.30, with some Bootcamp training sessions thrown in too, 55 Euros a year and off you go. All fitness levels are catered for.
I'm doing DCM also this year An Gaeilgoir.
Hopefully we'll both be in a better state if I meet you at the bottom of Roebuck Hill than the last time I met you there!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 11, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon.

I'm doing it alright, you've loads of time - just follow a 16 week plan and you'll finish.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on July 11, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.

Yip I knew that would lead u there or there abouts. I've had the patella injury and its a long time to heal, in fact it wouldn't until I got an injection. Rest it completely for a month or 2 or it could plague u for ever. Even now I'd still find something now and again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 11, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.

Yip I knew that would lead u there or there abouts. I've had the patella injury and its a long time to heal, in fact it wouldn't until I got an injection. Rest it completely for a month or 2 or it could plague u for ever. Even now I'd still find something now and again.

The more I read into it the symptoms of that are ticking every box for me. Time I had a chat with a physio. Injuries are sh*te.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2016, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 11, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.

Yip I knew that would lead u there or there abouts. I've had the patella injury and its a long time to heal, in fact it wouldn't until I got an injection. Rest it completely for a month or 2 or it could plague u for ever. Even now I'd still find something now and again.

The more I read into it the symptoms of that are ticking every box for me. Time I had a chat with a physio. Injuries are sh*te.

To cut down on those type injuries (for me anyways) is to build strength around those areas and proper stretching, not that 30 seconds shite ya did before a match, back in the day.... Been doing Pilates for about a year now, and a strength and balance class, has worked a treat
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 12, 2016, 07:48:39 AM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon.

I'm doing it alright, you've loads of time - just follow a 16 week plan and you'll finish.
The 3 of us will have to meet after the finishline for a beer.
You two will be in an hour before me though... :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 12, 2016, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 12, 2016, 07:48:39 AM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon.

I'm doing it alright, you've loads of time - just follow a 16 week plan and you'll finish.
The 3 of us will have to meet after the finishline for a beer.
You two will be in an hour before me though... :D

That'd be good alright, finishing is all that matters whether you walk, jog or run!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 12, 2016, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2016, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 11, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.

Yip I knew that would lead u there or there abouts. I've had the patella injury and its a long time to heal, in fact it wouldn't until I got an injection. Rest it completely for a month or 2 or it could plague u for ever. Even now I'd still find something now and again.

The more I read into it the symptoms of that are ticking every box for me. Time I had a chat with a physio. Injuries are sh*te.

To cut down on those type injuries (for me anyways) is to build strength around those areas and proper stretching, not that 30 seconds shite ya did before a match, back in the day.... Been doing Pilates for about a year now, and a strength and balance class, has worked a treat

Yeah been at strength and conditioning sessions for few years now and wanted to get back into bit of running again. Always have good 5-10 mins of dynamic stretching and 5 min brisk walk before a run. Need to get on foam roller a lot more than I currently do to work on the hamstrings. They are v tight at the min and been reading that could be part of my problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2016, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 12, 2016, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2016, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 11, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 11, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 10, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sounds like a over use injury. Google house maids knee

Thanks. Had a look at that. Symptoms not quiet what I have. But it led to to something called runners knee which sounds very like what I am experiencing.

Yip I knew that would lead u there or there abouts. I've had the patella injury and its a long time to heal, in fact it wouldn't until I got an injection. Rest it completely for a month or 2 or it could plague u for ever. Even now I'd still find something now and again.

The more I read into it the symptoms of that are ticking every box for me. Time I had a chat with a physio. Injuries are sh*te.

To cut down on those type injuries (for me anyways) is to build strength around those areas and proper stretching, not that 30 seconds shite ya did before a match, back in the day.... Been doing Pilates for about a year now, and a strength and balance class, has worked a treat

Yeah been at strength and conditioning sessions for few years now and wanted to get back into bit of running again. Always have good 5-10 mins of dynamic stretching and 5 min brisk walk before a run. Need to get on foam roller a lot more than I currently do to work on the hamstrings. They are v tight at the min and been reading that could be part of my problem.


Nothing worse than tight hamstrings or short hamstrings.... If your still playing gas then twisting and turning hurts the joints too. Insure your trainers suit your needs too...
Title: Re: European Championships
Post by: johnneycool on July 13, 2016, 09:00:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: No1 on July 10, 2016, 06:09:51 PM
Super run by Portaferry camog Ciara Mageean earlier today to pick up European bronze for the women's 1500m. Starting to gear up for Rio!

Great run and i think she can do a lot better too. Class athlete. Her and mark english are best we've got.

Was talking to her da last night, turns out she didn't want the slow pace as it kept too many in contention for too long and ended up getting bottled up a bit. I can't say I know a whole pile about the girl who came second, but Ciara seems to think she'd have gotten her if it had of been a quicker race.
Certainly doesn't seem to lack confidence and fair play to her.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2016, 09:28:56 AM
The girl who came 2nd is world class and I think has medalled in olympics /worlds before. I think some of the africans are too strong for her though.

The race was a mess and she got caught inside but i guess didn't expect that. Sure 4:33 was 2nd and the top few could run probably 4:06 or so. Real slow.

Yeah she doesn't seem to lack confidence but not in a bad way I think. hopefully more to come from her. I suspect olympic final a goal rather than a medal as that is probably a bit too much yet but maybe some day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on July 17, 2016, 11:18:32 AM
Finally got around to running my first ever 5k today. 25.28 by my watch as we didn't realise the timing chip was supposed to be worn from the knee down and I had it on my watch strap.

Disappointed as my 5k target has always been sub 25 and I faded badly towards the end. Few longer runs to get some endurance and I'll have it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 17, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
Good man fair play. You'll get it the next time.
It took me ages to get under 25mins, it was only when I started doing long slow runs for Marathon training that I eventually got under the 25min.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on July 17, 2016, 11:46:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 17, 2016, 11:18:32 AM
Finally got around to running my first ever 5k today. 25.28 by my watch as we didn't realise the timing chip was supposed to be worn from the knee down and I had it on my watch strap.

Disappointed as my 5k target has always been sub 25 and I faded badly towards the end. Few longer runs to get some endurance and I'll have it!

Well done Gallsman.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 20, 2016, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 12, 2016, 07:48:39 AM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on July 11, 2016, 02:41:22 PM
Just wondering if many in here have signed up for the Dublin Marathon.

I'm doing it alright, you've loads of time - just follow a 16 week plan and you'll finish.
The 3 of us will have to meet after the finishline for a beer.
You two will be in an hour before me though... :D

Wouldn't be too sure about that....although the beer side of things would be grand....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TheOptimist on July 21, 2016, 09:39:01 AM
Signed up for waterside half marathon on Sep 4th. Hoping for under 2 hours.

Don't have the time to do 5 day a week training plans though so I limited to 2 runs a week at most. May try to squeeze in early swims some mornings. Run just under ten mile last week in about 1:25 so happy enough with where I'm at. It was actually the furthest I'd run since doing a marathon 5/6 odd years ago.

Any tips on getting the most our of limited training?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 21, 2016, 12:07:21 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.

We are just not used to it and like everything in life, some days you are up for it and more days not..I went for a 10k on Tuesday night, has to stop twice to get myself together...getting liquids on board is crucial in this weather.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 21, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.
I find the heat a killer. I'm doing everything by heart rate at the moment and I went for a run Tuesday evening and could not keep my heart rate down. I actually had to walk some of it to keep it down to the zone I wanted to be in for that run.
A couple of days before that I was about 30secs per mile quicker for the same route at the same heart rate zone but it was no where near as humid that night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2016, 11:23:02 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.

If you've been running in that heat for a while it will hardly be the heat that's done more likely just a shit day and everything is harder when that happens!!

Ran in London a few times lately (humidity was high too) and 2 morning runs were dreadful and the rest were fine, looking forward to my week in Spain to get some runs in ... but looking at around 7am starts... what time did you go for run at?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 22, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 21, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
Went out for my usual hill run this morning, run I've done countless times at this stage. I was a bit sore and stiff from doing a heavy leg day in the gym on Monday but had run fine (a flat, gentle decline and back) on Tuesday. Today however, the humidity had really spiked and I'd never wanted to quit as much. It was agony and felt like I was going to burst at times. Is this normal with increased humidity? Managed to finish and recovered pretty quickly, but during the run itself I felt like absolute death.
I find the heat a killer. I'm doing everything by heart rate at the moment and I went for a run Tuesday evening and could not keep my heart rate down. I actually had to walk some of it to keep it down to the zone I wanted to be in for that run.
A couple of days before that I was about 30secs per mile quicker for the same route at the same heart rate zone but it was no where near as humid that night.

Same as - was doing a tempo run yesterday and had to stop three times to get the HR down
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 02, 2016, 10:16:05 AM
Invested in new wheels on Friday so did a couple of decent runs over the weekend. Girl in Elvereys in Sligo did the analysis of my plodding on the treadmill and was able to show me why she was recommending a certain type of shoe. It only confirmed what I suspected. I felt she knew what she was talking about. Was very tempted by a pair of Brooks but stuck with Asics and I love them already.

That's the easy part of the equation. Age and belly are not as easy fixed though I suspect if I solved the latter I wouldn't feel the former as much as I am now. I'm gone very slow and have no strength - the slightest hill knocks me off my stride. I need to do some tempo and hills for a few weeks now that I've at least built some sort of a base. Disappointed not to be doing the Warriors and don't think I'll be ready for 13.1 miles in Athlone so new target is 10 mile coast to coast in Sligo on September 24th. Should be doable but will be very slow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 02, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
I was doing my long run sunday morning and around the 20km mark my right knee started paining me badly all of a sudden. I was near the house so hobbled home the last 1km.
All day sunday and monday it was killing me, the worst was walking down the stairs. I could manage going up or walking on the flat but walking downstairs was next to impossible.
Is this the dreaded runners knee? Its better today but still have a slight twinge in it.
My runners have nearly 1000km on them, could that be a cause?
I have the Rock n Roll Half Marathon on Sunday, hoping Ill be ok by then but I dunno if I will be able do any running in this week now because of the knee.
Would it be ok to get on a bike instead or is it better just to rest it for the week?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2016, 10:28:26 AM
1000k is definitely too much in one pair of trainers... Whether that's your cause or not i don't know. Try biking on it. It'll at least test it out as there's no point doing the half marathon if this is plaguing you. It will only make it worse.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 02, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
Have set Barcelona half marathon in February as big target I want to achieve. I get free entry so too good to turn down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 02, 2016, 09:18:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 02, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
I was doing my long run sunday morning and around the 20km mark my right knee started paining me badly all of a sudden. I was near the house so hobbled home the last 1km.
All day sunday and monday it was killing me, the worst was walking down the stairs. I could manage going up or walking on the flat but walking downstairs was next to impossible.
Is this the dreaded runners knee? Its better today but still have a slight twinge in it.
My runners have nearly 1000km on them, could that be a cause?
I have the Rock n Roll Half Marathon on Sunday, hoping Ill be ok by then but I dunno if I will be able do any running in this week now because of the knee.
Would it be ok to get on a bike instead or is it better just to rest it for the week?

Am sure the stock answer is see a physio but I've often biked or swam if I've had a niggle/strain I want to rest
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 03, 2016, 03:31:53 PM
just completed a personal month challenge of running at least 4 miles a day, during week runs were mostly done during my lunch. at the weekends I went longer and mostly off road. Dunno whether to keep it up for August or not. interestingly no injuries or niggles, the odd day of sore muscles but thats par for the course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on August 04, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2016, 11:43:18 AM
The problem with gait analysis is that a lot of the people doing them wouldn't be qualified and so you wouldn't really trust their diagnosis.

if you're going to a podiatrist or some biomechanics specialist then fair enough but the ones in shops wouldn't generally be as good... (Some can be but I have been warned off by physics etc).

Don't get me wrong they could be spot on but I would say they're hit and miss.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 04, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 04, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.
I have a foam roller that I never use...maybe I'll try that thanks.
Don't think I'll bother with gait analysis. Went to Elverys today and tried on a few pairs but bought nothing.
Liked the Nike Pegasus 33 and there were a few Asics I liked also.
What runners do you buy?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 05, 2016, 09:45:45 AM
I'm getting back into doing a little bit of running and have found that once I hit around the 5 mile mark, I begin to get a numbness in my right foot.  I have had this problem before but never worried much about it as I stopped doing much running.  Anyway, the problem is still there.  I think it stems from a trapped nerve up round my toes when I run.  Is there anything I can do to stop this?  I have changed my trainers, got a gait analysis done etc.  I've never went and got orthotics done though.  Was sort of hoping there are other solutions.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on August 07, 2016, 10:36:23 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 04, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on August 04, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 03, 2016, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 03, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
Did a bit on the turbo trainer last night and knee felt grand. Much better today also. Have any of you been to Amphibian King to buy runners? Might go and get that gait analysis done and buy a new pair. I hear great reviews about Amphibian King.

In general have many of you found much use in gait analysis?

I have noticed this past while that I am getting pain up my inner leg from the ankle half way up my lower leg and wonder whether my footwear are a cause of it. I do tend to foot strike with the inside of my foot first (if that makes sense)

I am a total skeptic when it comes to gait analysis. I got it done in elverys a few years ago, got a pair of runners with some support on my arch, 140 euros worth of support!! 6 weeks later, i was killed with shin pains. Off to the physio, brought in the new runners, it turns out that my feet did not need any arch support at all. Reverted back to the neutral pair of runners and no injuries since. 50 Euros a pair, i change them regularly. There is a lot of thinking out there, that there is no benefit in fancy runners, if your runners are comfortable and you have very little injuries, stick with what works. Just my opinion.

LL, just wondering if you have worked the foam roller along the I.T. bands, i had similar knee pain before and it turned out it was the bands.
I have a foam roller that I never use...maybe I'll try that thanks.
Don't think I'll bother with gait analysis. Went to Elverys today and tried on a few pairs but bought nothing.
Liked the Nike Pegasus 33 and there were a few Asics I liked also.
What runners do you buy?

I have a pair of Asics Cumulus....neutral ....bought them on sportsshoes.com, they work for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Ll did you make the dublin half?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Ll did you make the dublin half?
I did tommy. I used it as a training run for my Marathon training though as knee not 100% so wasn't chasing a time or PB.
Got through it ok and knee not that bad after it.
Someone told me to buy a patella strap and I wore that below knee and it seemed to help.
Really enjoyed it actually. Nice to be running through the city and it was a lovely morning for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2016, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Ll did you make the dublin half?
I did tommy. I used it as a training run for my Marathon training though as knee not 100% so wasn't chasing a time or PB.
Got through it ok and knee not that bad after it.
Someone told me to buy a patella strap and I wore that below knee and it seemed to help.
Really enjoyed it actually. Nice to be running through the city and it was a lovely morning for it.

Did it myself and did the same - wind for the last 4k was very strong

Hope it's much calmer next Sunday for the 1/2 Ironman
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2016, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 07, 2016, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Ll did you make the dublin half?
I did tommy. I used it as a training run for my Marathon training though as knee not 100% so wasn't chasing a time or PB.
Got through it ok and knee not that bad after it.
Someone told me to buy a patella strap and I wore that below knee and it seemed to help.
Really enjoyed it actually. Nice to be running through the city and it was a lovely morning for it.

Did it myself and did the same - wind for the last 4k was very strong

Hope it's much calmer next Sunday for the 1/2 Ironman
Found the drag up Chesterfield a bit tough and it seemed to go on and on. Tough finish with the two hills at the end also.
Good event though, even the non alcoholic beer at the end tasted ok!

Yeah I enjoyed it - brilliant medals too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 08, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Laoislad - I'm by no means a good one to judge off but my experience is as follows. My first pair of running shoes were a pair I picked up on sale in a local show shop. Turns out after googling the were for mild overpronators. Never had an issue. Next pair I picked up were neutral. They were grand but I never felt quite as good in them. Maybe it was that I was doing more distance etc but got an odd pain or two. The new pair I got are a supported shoe for mild overpronators and I must say they feel much better already. I know new running shoes always feel brilliant but I suspect there's more to it than that. I had heard Elvery's was hit and miss and wanted to get to Amphibian King but needed to change runners before I'd get a chance to go there. My experience was ok, it made sense what she said and showed me on the video. But I'm not expert.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 10:08:40 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 08, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Laoislad - I'm by no means a good one to judge off but my experience is as follows. My first pair of running shoes were a pair I picked up on sale in a local show shop. Turns out after googling the were for mild overpronators. Never had an issue. Next pair I picked up were neutral. They were grand but I never felt quite as good in them. Maybe it was that I was doing more distance etc but got an odd pain or two. The new pair I got are a supported shoe for mild overpronators and I must say they feel much better already. I know new running shoes always feel brilliant but I suspect there's more to it than that. I had heard Elvery's was hit and miss and wanted to get to Amphibian King but needed to change runners before I'd get a chance to go there. My experience was ok, it made sense what she said and showed me on the video. But I'm not expert.

Cheers.
I ended up buying the Nike Pegasus 33 and wore them yesterday for the Half Marathon and they felt grand.
I had a pair of Asics gt2000 last year that I could never wear longer than 3 miles at which I point I got awful pains in my shins from them everytime I wore them so I was a bit wary of buying Asics again for that reason.
I didn't get the gait analysis done in the end but I'm happy enough with the Nikes after yesterday.  I think they are just a neutral cushioned shoe which is what my last pair Adidas Boost were so that must be what suits me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 09, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
i'll see how my training goes in the next 2 weeks or so but i was planning on entering the Belfast half marathon in September.  Does this also book up quick?  Would i usually be full up before the closing date for entries?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2016, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 09, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
i'll see how my training goes in the next 2 weeks or so but i was planning on entering the Belfast half marathon in September.  Does this also book up quick?  Would i usually be full up before the closing date for entries?

I doubt it.... But if you're doing it why wait?? Half marathon training can be built up very quickly, 10 k runs every other day followed by 12  15 18 and 20 leading up to race...

What date is it??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 09, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2016, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 09, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
i'll see how my training goes in the next 2 weeks or so but i was planning on entering the Belfast half marathon in September.  Does this also book up quick?  Would i usually be full up before the closing date for entries?

I doubt it.... But if you're doing it why wait?? Half marathon training can be built up very quickly, 10 k runs every other day followed by 12  15 18 and 20 leading up to race...

What date is it??

18th sept. Had a bad experience when I booked Dublin marathon few years ago, trained for months and got an injury 2 weeks beforehand. Started 2 weeks ago training for Belfast.  Just want to give it a few long runs at the weekends to see how my legs and feet hold up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pullhard on August 11, 2016, 09:21:36 AM
At the weekend at part of my long run I had to run down a long steep hill. I felt I was flying only after when I checked my watch I realised it hadn't broken 4min/mile pace. Fastest was 4.10.
I was amazed that despite the assistance of gravity I was still slower than Bannisters record pace.

Anyone else been humbled lately?
Title: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: No1 on August 24, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
That time of year again! Strangford Festival 10k this Friday night at 7pm. Entries available on the night at Inverbrena Community Centre. Great location, great route, great prizes, great race pack and fantastic grub afterwards! Hopefully some of you can make it.
Title: Re: Strangford Festival 10k
Post by: lfdown2 on August 24, 2016, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: No1 on August 24, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
That time of year again! Strangford Festival 10k this Friday night at 7pm. Entries available on the night at Inverbrena Community Centre. Great location, great route, great prizes, great race pack and fantastic grub afterwards! Hopefully some of you can make it.

hopefully make it - though will take it handy, match Saturday - any other day/night this week to register? might get the in-laws to get on to it for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on August 24, 2016, 02:24:34 PM
Great stuff LF. Registration open on Thursday night from 7 to 9 at Inverbrena also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on August 31, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Need new trainers lads. Not doing serious running but 3 and 6mile runs couple times of week. Any recommendations? Have asics cumulus but they're wrecked.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 31, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Need new trainers lads. Not doing serious running but 3 and 6mile runs couple times of week. Any recommendations? Have asics cumulus but they're wrecked.

I tend to stick with the same brand of I've found them comfortable and if I've not got any niggles from them... For me anyways i feel that my feet have got used to the shape.. Been using running trainers from Asics for years now... Never any problems...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 01, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
I was awful close to switching to a lovely pair of Brooks when I purchased recently. They felt really nice but the Asics were so comfortable. Think it was a case of "there's no bad decision here" but I'd be tempted to try Brooks in future.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2016, 09:59:07 AM
I wear brooks now but had asics for years.if one works for you stick with them.

I switched from asics as i started getting ankle grief. The brooks ones i have no such bother with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 01, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
I was awful close to switching to a lovely pair of Brooks when I purchased recently. They felt really nice but the Asics were so comfortable. Think it was a case of "there's no bad decision here" but I'd be tempted to try Brooks in future.
Seanie I'm staying just outside Sligo Town for work tonight. I was going to go for a run tonight but work went late. I will probably go in the morning instead. Is there anywhere good to run? I was thinking out to Rosses Point and back maybe?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 02, 2016, 01:32:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 31, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Need new trainers lads. Not doing serious running but 3 and 6mile runs couple times of week. Any recommendations? Have asics cumulus but they're wrecked.

Hard to know. You probably should go and get assessed for your running style. I come across runners that are normal runners but end up with shoes that are designed for runners that have pronation but get a pair of runners on sale and go with them. What you get used to then you get used to. A bit like getting used to driving a shite car.

I prefer a light a shoe as possible. A bit of stability but not a fan of support. If you don't need that support why carry that extra weight. It all adds up if you are doing a lot of miles.

A shoe that doesn t suit you can cause problems. However shoes are often blamed when the problem is elsewhere. Weight is a factor of course. A lot of leg niggles come from lower back and pelvic issues as well and not from footwear.

I have a few different runners on the go depending on what I am doing. For longer stuff I'm using Nike Pegasus 32. Looking at the new Pegasus but might go with something else. I just go normal, light enough with a bit of stability. If I was doing a 5k/10K race I use the Brooks Pureconnect in recent years. Not a shoe to train in though. Just wear them in an event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 02, 2016, 11:50:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 01, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
I was awful close to switching to a lovely pair of Brooks when I purchased recently. They felt really nice but the Asics were so comfortable. Think it was a case of "there's no bad decision here" but I'd be tempted to try Brooks in future.
Seanie I'm staying just outside Sligo Town for work tonight. I was going to go for a run tonight but work went late. I will probably go in the morning instead. Is there anywhere good to run? I was thinking out to Rosses Point and back maybe?

Sorry - only seeing this now. I'm probably too late. Depended on where you were staying and how far you wanted to go but the Rosses Point road, while busy, wouldn't be too bad as it has a good hard shoulder all the way. Union Wood would be one to check out the next time you're here, has some testing hills and no worries about traffic. About a 7/8k lap.

If you're about again let me know and I'll give you better help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TheOptimist on September 02, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on July 21, 2016, 09:39:01 AM
Signed up for waterside half marathon on Sep 4th. Hoping for under 2 hours.

Don't have the time to do 5 day a week training plans though so I limited to 2 runs a week at most. May try to squeeze in early swims some mornings. Run just under ten mile last week in about 1:25 so happy enough with where I'm at. It was actually the furthest I'd run since doing a marathon 5/6 odd years ago.

Any tips on getting the most our of limited training?

Well cheers for all the advice lads  ::)

Runs on Sunday and think i'm all set. Been doing a long run, a fast short run and a swim every week so hoping for a decent-ish time on Sunday. Stomach is a bit gippy but should be ok hopefully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2016, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 02, 2016, 11:50:37 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 01, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
I was awful close to switching to a lovely pair of Brooks when I purchased recently. They felt really nice but the Asics were so comfortable. Think it was a case of "there's no bad decision here" but I'd be tempted to try Brooks in future.
Seanie I'm staying just outside Sligo Town for work tonight. I was going to go for a run tonight but work went late. I will probably go in the morning instead. Is there anywhere good to run? I was thinking out to Rosses Point and back maybe?

Sorry - only seeing this now. I'm probably too late. Depended on where you were staying and how far you wanted to go but the Rosses Point road, while busy, wouldn't be too bad as it has a good hard shoulder all the way. Union Wood would be one to check out the next time you're here, has some testing hills and no worries about traffic. About a 7/8k lap.

If you're about again let me know and I'll give you better help.
No bother. I was staying in the Radisson Blu. Sure I ended up having a few pints last night and wasn't too fussed about running this morning so didn't end up going anywhere in the end.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on September 04, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
In Radison Blu myself in a couple of weeks - need to do 18 on Sunday morning. I'll check out that route through Union Wood. Is that anywhere near where the Parkrun is?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 05, 2016, 11:15:50 AM
It's not near the parkrun. It's a bit outside the town the opposite side of where you will be but it's a tough run with the hills. Definitely bank for your buck.

there's a 10 mile race on September 24th if that's when you're about that goes from Strandhill to Rosses Point. http://www.runireland.com/events/sligo-coast-coast-2016-10mile-and-5km (http://www.runireland.com/events/sligo-coast-coast-2016-10mile-and-5km) Pretty flat course but if the weather's not great could be windy as near the coast you're pretty exposed.
Title: Great North Run
Post by: No1 on September 07, 2016, 07:58:30 PM
I'm doing the Great North Run on Sunday for Marie Curie. Training has gone OK, anyone on here raced it? If so, any tips for pre and post race?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on September 07, 2016, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on September 02, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on July 21, 2016, 09:39:01 AM
Signed up for waterside half marathon on Sep 4th. Hoping for under 2 hours.

Don't have the time to do 5 day a week training plans though so I limited to 2 runs a week at most. May try to squeeze in early swims some mornings. Run just under ten mile last week in about 1:25 so happy enough with where I'm at. It was actually the furthest I'd run since doing a marathon 5/6 odd years ago.

Any tips on getting the most our of limited training?

Well cheers for all the advice lads  ::)

Runs on Sunday and think i'm all set. Been doing a long run, a fast short run and a swim every week so hoping for a decent-ish time on Sunday. Stomach is a bit gippy but should be ok hopefully.
How did it go?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TheOptimist on September 08, 2016, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on September 07, 2016, 10:56:06 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on September 02, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on July 21, 2016, 09:39:01 AM
Signed up for waterside half marathon on Sep 4th. Hoping for under 2 hours.

Don't have the time to do 5 day a week training plans though so I limited to 2 runs a week at most. May try to squeeze in early swims some mornings. Run just under ten mile last week in about 1:25 so happy enough with where I'm at. It was actually the furthest I'd run since doing a marathon 5/6 odd years ago.

Any tips on getting the most our of limited training?


Well cheers for all the advice lads  ::)

Runs on Sunday and think i'm all set. Been doing a long run, a fast short run and a swim every week so hoping for a decent-ish time on Sunday. Stomach is a bit gippy but should be ok hopefully.
How did it go?

Went ok thanks. Made the rookie mistake of going out too fast. I knew I could do 1:55 comfortably so decided to push myself for 1:50 , went well for 7miles which I got to in 60mins (which included the Foyle bridge) but I died after that. In the end it was a matter of keeping going as opposed to any time. Ended up with 1:57 which is a good marker to beat next time.

All in all really enjoyed it and has given me a thirst for more. Made a few quid for charity too which was nice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 16, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
I bought a weight bench and a few weights there during the week. Nothing fancy just a bench a barbell and dumbbells and 50kg of weights.
I've no interest in bulking up like a body builder but would like to tone up a bit and add a bit of muscle. I'm also interested in what I can use them for as regards helping my running.
I've been reading plenty of websites but a lot of it doesn't make much sense to me. Most of it seems to be geared towards people who want to really bulk up.
Does anyone do weights and what advice could you give for a complete beginner. A lot of the training programs have you doing weights everyday. Again I'm not interested in that. It's more something to compliment my running I want (and tone up a bit) rather than takeover from it.
Now I'm only 6 weeks or so away from the Dublin marathon so I presume it wouldn't be a good idea to start doing weights just yet ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 16, 2016, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 16, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
I bought a weight bench and a few weights there during the week. Nothing fancy just a bench a barbell and dumbbells and 50kg of weights.
I've no interest in bulking up like a body builder but would like to tone up a bit and add a bit of muscle. I'm also interested in what I can use them for as regards helping my running.
I've been reading plenty of websites but a lot of it doesn't make much sense to me. Most of it seems to be geared towards people who want to really bulk up.
Does anyone do weights and what advice could you give for a complete beginner. A lot of the training programs have you doing weights everyday. Again I'm not interested in that. It's more something to compliment my running I want (and tone up a bit) rather than takeover from it.
Now I'm only 6 weeks or so away from the Dublin marathon so I presume it wouldn't be a good idea to start doing weights just yet ?
single leg exercises....
lunges, forward and reverse
single leg deadlifts
split squats

nothing wrong with starting with light weights and building them up on a 3-4 week cycle then ease back
strength training will help your running. But mobility work this close to the event would be much better

bodyweight exercises will get you started
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on September 16, 2016, 11:07:47 PM
Use light weights for your arms, chest and back. Remember to do complementary muscles, i.e. Biceps and triceps; chest/back etc. Wording might not be right but I'm sure you get the meaning. Low weight with a higher # of reps will give you what you want.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 16, 2016, 11:14:57 PM
Probably a stupid question but how low is a low weight ? I put 25kg on the barbell tonight and did some bench presses but didn't think it was all that heavy and had no problem doing the reps.
Then again maybe I wasn't doing them right.
So would doing them a bit heavier but less reps be better or would I still get benefit from doing more reps at the 25kg even though I didn't feel like I was getting anything from it as in I wasn't sore or tired after it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 16, 2016, 11:20:27 PM
"pushing for show, pulling for go"


for every pushing exercise, you should have two pulling exercises, such as...

pull ups, lateral body rows etc for upper body
deadlifts, cleans for lower body

why would you low weight with high reps work for running?

If I were you, and I've been in your position in the past, I would go and book a session with a qualified S&C coach, get a simple weights programme put together, using the weights available for your running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 16, 2016, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 16, 2016, 11:14:57 PM
Probably a stupid question but how low is a low weight ? I put 25kg on the barbell tonight and did some bench presses but didn't think it was all that heavy and had no problem doing the reps.
Then again maybe I wasn't doing them right.
So would doing them a bit heavier but less reps be better or would I still get benefit from doing more reps at the 25kg even though I didn't feel like I was getting anything from it as in I wasn't sore or tired after it.
DOMs usually kick in the day after (delayed onset of muscle soreness). On a proper weights program you are basically ripping the muscle fibres apart due to stress and they heal stronger/larger etc

there's a lot of stuff on the net about weights programmes for runners and their benefits.
I maintain that a good mobilitiy programme is far more beneficial to runners and will keep you injury free in the long term
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 16, 2016, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on September 16, 2016, 11:20:27 PM
"pushing for show, pulling for go"


for every pushing exercise, you should have two pulling exercises, such as...

pull ups, lateral body rows etc for upper body
deadlifts, cleans for lower body

why would you low weight with high reps work for running?

If I were you, and I've been in your position in the past, I would go and book a session with a qualified S&C coach, get a simple weights programme put together, using the weights available for your running
I'm not doing anything for show! I have the weights set up in my shed. No one is going to be looking at me pushing!

Thanks for the advice. As said I'm a total novice at this so all advice appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2016, 08:50:16 AM
Anything that builds strength around the joints will help with running I believe. Squats and  lunges ... Getting technique first is important the move up through the weights... 8 reps four sets be plenty for squats and same again for lunges on each leg!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
And cat malogen it was....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 24, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
And cat malogen it was....

Was supposed to do it but stayed in bed with the flu, glad I gave it a miss
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 24, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
And cat malogen it was....

Was supposed to do it but stayed in bed with the flu, glad I gave it a miss
I have a dose of a chest cold myself but went anyway. Done shite!
Enjoyed it though. The course is a lot tougher than last year imo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on September 24, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 24, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
And cat malogen it was....

Was supposed to do it but stayed in bed with the flu, glad I gave it a miss

Jaysus I hope you are alright for next Saturday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 24, 2016, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 24, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 24, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 24, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
Anyone else doing the Dublin Half tomorrow? Weather is suppose to be cat malogen.
And cat malogen it was....

Was supposed to do it but stayed in bed with the flu, glad I gave it a miss

Jaysus I hope you are alright for next Saturday!

Flu should be gone not sure if the heart can handle the Mayo intensity though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 17, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Unreal.
http://www.runnersworld.com/masters/at-85-ed-whitlock-breaks-four-hours-in-the-marathon?utm_campaign=Runner's%20World&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=627758085
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on October 17, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 17, 2016, 08:52:46 PM
Unreal.
http://www.runnersworld.com/masters/at-85-ed-whitlock-breaks-four-hours-in-the-marathon?utm_campaign=Runner's%20World&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=627758085

He finished the marathon in just three hours, 56 minutes, and 33.2 seconds.

My PR is 3:56:47.

Can't even beat an 85 year old :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 17, 2016, 09:00:04 PM
I am hoping to do that time in 2 weeks time and i am 40 years younger than him! Here's a question, i did my last 20 miler yesterday, i had a slight niggle and took a couple of Nurofen at the start and two more at the 10 mile mark, i knocked 12 minutes off my best time for the 20 miles, i am wondering does anyone use any pain killers or anything else during races? Morally, is there much of a difference in taking a few Nurofen or gels? I will be putting a couple of them in my belt.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 18, 2016, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on October 17, 2016, 09:00:04 PM
I am hoping to do that time in 2 weeks time and i am 40 years younger than him! Here's a question, i did my last 20 miler yesterday, i had a slight niggle and took a couple of Nurofen at the start and two more at the 10 mile mark, i knocked 12 minutes off my best time for the 20 miles, i am wondering does anyone use any pain killers or anything else during races? Morally, is there much of a difference in taking a few Nurofen or gels? I will be putting a couple of them in my belt.....

You've come to the right place, I just hope Paul Kimmage isn't reading
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 09:53:56 AM
Girl that goes to gym with me is doing that. Slight niggle in her calf but the physio has said she's fine to race but take a couple of pain killers during the race, which I found strange at first but made plenty sense!! For the first timers and novice runners it's not like you are going to compete with the winners!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2016, 09:54:12 AM
Are you not exceeding your dosage on those things?? Are they not 2 per 4 hours?

http://www.coachmag.co.uk/exercises/marathon-training/4467/should-you-take-painkillers-during-an-endurance-race (http://www.coachmag.co.uk/exercises/marathon-training/4467/should-you-take-painkillers-during-an-endurance-race)

Read articles like that. I'm not sure it's a great idea... Also I'm not sure what you mean in your comparison with gels...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2016, 09:54:12 AM
Are you not exceeding your dosage on those things?? Are they not 2 per 4 hours?

http://www.coachmag.co.uk/exercises/marathon-training/4467/should-you-take-painkillers-during-an-endurance-race (http://www.coachmag.co.uk/exercises/marathon-training/4467/should-you-take-painkillers-during-an-endurance-race)

Read articles like that. I'm not sure it's a great idea... Also I'm not sure what you mean in your comparison with gels...

Well most novice or first timers will be in the 4 hour mark anyways so taking one 30 minutes before and 2 hours later will be within that timeframe. Again i thought it strange but if you have a niggle which requires 'assistance' then taking a pain killer wont be that bad!

if you are the type that pain killers do make you have stomach cramps then obviously sdont bother!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2016, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on October 17, 2016, 09:00:04 PM
I am hoping to do that time in 2 weeks time and i am 40 years younger than him! Here's a question, i did my last 20 miler yesterday, i had a slight niggle and took a couple of Nurofen at the start and two more at the 10 mile mark, i knocked 12 minutes off my best time for the 20 miles, i am wondering does anyone use any pain killers or anything else during races? Morally, is there much of a difference in taking a few Nurofen or gels? I will be putting a couple of them in my belt.....
You hoping for sub 4?
That was my original goal at the start of the year but it won't be happening this year anyway.
Training has been a bit of a mess for me between flus and knee injuries and not getting a lot of runs in because of work.
I actually stopped following the plan about 7 weeks ago and am just getting out for a run whenever I can. Furthest I've done for a lsr is 19miles and that was only once. Have done a few 18 miles and a couple of 15-16 miles.
If I get under 4:30 I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 25, 2016, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for about the start or on the the course itself?
I'm doing it.
First half is tougher than the second half. Long drag up through the Phoenix Park. There is a tough hill around 23miles also.
Great atmosphere along the course.
What time you hoping for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 25, 2016, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for about the start or on the the course itself?
I'm doing it.
First half is tougher than the second half. Long drag up through the Phoenix Park. There is a tough hill around 23miles also.
Great atmosphere along the course.
What time you hoping for.

PB is 3hrs 19mins, so if i can get in somewhere around that time i'll be more than happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 25, 2016, 06:36:51 PM
Good luck lads!Embrace the pain...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 26, 2016, 06:37:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.
I feel the same. It's become a real chore at the moment. Training hasn't gone the best but the last month or so I dread having to go out and do a long run. Running shouldn't be like that.
Hopefully once this is over and I'm still alive after it I can get back into just running for the sake of it and not worrying if I did enough miles in a week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 26, 2016, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2016, 06:37:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.
I feel the same. It's become a real chore at the moment. Training hasn't gone the best but the last month or so I dread having to go out and do a long run. Running shouldn't be like that.
Hopefully once this is over and I'm still alive after it I can get back into just running for the sake of it and not worrying if I did enough miles in a week.

Amen to that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 26, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 26, 2016, 06:37:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.
I feel the same. It's become a real chore at the moment. Training hasn't gone the best but the last month or so I dread having to go out and do a long run. Running shouldn't be like that.
Hopefully once this is over and I'm still alive after it I can get back into just running for the sake of it and not worrying if I did enough miles in a week.

Amen to that
worrying if i did enough miles in a week
                            if i did too many miles last week
                            am i eating right
                            am i getting enough rest
                            am I getting a cold
                            is that niggle going to bother me
                            am I going to finish before fat ..... from work
                            and loads more....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: king of leon on October 26, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Longest run I've done is 19 miles. Did it in 2.40, kind of scared what the next 7 miles will hold.

Hopefully the crowd will help me through the last 7!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Weather looks to be around 14 degrees and not too windy so things looking good for good times!

Friend doing it. She's looking 3.45 for her first!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 26, 2016, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.

Not ideal. Friend of mine ended up in hospital with lung clot that was put down to a combination of long distance running/ dehydration and long haul flights.

I'm doin Dublin as well. 5 in a row. Followed a programme for once. About 40 from club followed the same programme and the group sessions were really enjoyable. Felt jaded in tonight's session (even though it was light). That's kinda normal though. I remember last year walking and feeling like shite in last 10 miler a week before the race and ended up with a 10 min. pb on the day. It's normal to feel lousy in the taper.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 27, 2016, 11:29:03 AM
Doing it as well, last 2 miler last night...really felt dead in the legs...Roll on Sunday afternoon, a supersize Supermacs and a heap of Pints after.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Weather looks to be around 14 degrees and not too windy so things looking good for good times!

Friend doing it. She's looking 3.45 for her first!!

Saw a forecast predicting 90% humidity! If that's the case expect scenario like 2 years ago when there was carnage in last quarter of the race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2016, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 27, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
Saw a forecast predicting 90% humidity! If that's the case expect scenario like 2 years ago when there was carnage in last quarter of the race.
Are you serious  ;D
It was carnage alright that year, like a war zone with so many lying collapsed on the side of the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
just go slower
and make sure you finish.
best of luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
just go slower
and make sure you finish.
best of luck
If I went any slower I'd be walking  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on October 27, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
just go slower
and make sure you finish.
best of luck
If I went any slower I'd be walking  ;D

And?

How many people can even  walk 26 miles?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 27, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Weather looks to be around 14 degrees and not too windy so things looking good for good times!

Friend doing it. She's looking 3.45 for her first!!

Saw a forecast predicting 90% humidity! If that's the case expect scenario like 2 years ago when there was carnage in last quarter of the race.

Aye noticed that but it was definitely warmer then, I would expect lower humidity in the morning??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 27, 2016, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 26, 2016, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 26, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 25, 2016, 06:09:24 PM
is there many on here doing the dublin marathon on sunday? this will be my 4th marathon but 1st time for dublin. any advice or things to look out for at the start or on the the course itself?

Am doing it, looking forward to getting it out of the way now - have done a 16 week plan and am sick of running.

Have to jump on a plane a couple of hours afterwards to take two flights which I'm not looking forward to.

Not ideal. Friend of mine ended up in hospital with lung clot that was put down to a combination of long distance running/ dehydration and long haul flights.

I'm doin Dublin as well. 5 in a row. Followed a programme for once. About 40 from club followed the same programme and the group sessions were really enjoyable. Felt jaded in tonight's session (even though it was light). That's kinda normal though. I remember last year walking and feeling like shite in last 10 miler a week before the race and ended up with a 10 min. pb on the day. It's normal to feel lousy in the taper.

Tell me about it, was supposed to go last week - dreading it TBH.

Best of luck to everyone doing it and enjoy
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2016, 10:14:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 27, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Weather looks to be around 14 degrees and not too windy so things looking good for good times!

Friend doing it. She's looking 3.45 for her first!!

Saw a forecast predicting 90% humidity! If that's the case expect scenario like 2 years ago when there was carnage in last quarter of the race.

Aye noticed that but it was definitely warmer then, I would expect lower humidity in the morning??

It was very high starting 2 years ago though and it took its toll. Just plan for this I suppose. Have some salt sticks along and  Dioralyte or something similar to put into the water along the way. Water alone is no good if you sweat out and get dehydrated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on October 27, 2016, 11:23:00 PM
Run across America record broken...

http://www.outsideonline.com/2129171/brief-history-trans-america-record?utm_content=buffer182d9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=facebookpost
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 28, 2016, 10:54:42 PM

Very high humidity (90%+) still forecast for Dublin this Sunday. That means it will feel a few degrees warmer than it actually is. A 14C will feel like a 16C but it will be more difficult to stay cool than if it were actually 16C with lower humidity. Oh, and high humidity means that oxygen concentrations will be about 0.5% less. Might not seem much but over 26 miles ...........
Not ideal conditions but the good news is that there are no tornados forecast.
Proceed with caution would appear to be the best strategy. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 28, 2016, 11:33:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 28, 2016, 10:54:42 PM

Very high humidity (90%+) still forecast for Dublin this Sunday. That means it will feel a few degrees warmer than it actually is. A 14C will feel like a 16C but it will be more difficult to stay cool than if it were actually 16C with lower humidity. Oh, and high humidity means that oxygen concentrations will be about 0.5% less. Might not seem much but over 26 miles ...........
Not ideal conditions but the good news is that there are no tornados forecast.
Proceed with caution would appear to be the best strategy.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/atmospheric/question651.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/atmospheric/question651.htm)

...Relative humidity is the ratio of the current absolute humidity to the highest possible absolute humidity (which depends on the current air temperature). A reading of 100 percent relative humidity means that the air is totally saturated with water vapor and cannot hold any more, creatin­g the possibility of rain. This doesn't mean that the relative humidity must be 100 percent in order for it to rain -- it must be 100 percent where the clouds are forming, but the relative humidity near the ground could be much less.

Humans are very sensitive to humidity, as the skin relies on the air to get rid of moisture. The process of sweating is your body's attempt to keep cool and maintain its current temperature. If the air is at 100-percent relative humidity, sweat will not evaporate into the air. As a result, we feel much hotter than the actual temperature when the relative humidity is high. If the relative humidity is low, we can feel much cooler than the actual temperature because our sweat evaporates easily, cooling ­us off. For example, if the air temperature is 75 degrees Fahrenheit (24 degrees Celsius) and the relative humidity is zero percent, the air temperature feels like 69 degrees Fahrenheit (21 C) to our bodies. If the air temperature is 75 degrees Fahrenheit (24 C) and the relative humidity is 100 percent, we feel like it's 80 degrees (27 C) out....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 29, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
Good luck to all the marathoners on here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
Yes good luck guys. Have a good one and pace yourselves!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2016, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
Yes good luck guys. Have a good one and pace yourselves!
I'm going to stick to one of the Kenyans.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
Well lads how did we all get on?
20 minute PB for me so delighted with that considering how my training went.
Was talking to Bingo earlier and he went sub 3hr. Unreal running.
Conditions were perfect. Really enjoyed most of it. Started to cramp badly the last 3 or 4 miles but thankfully made it to finish line in one piece.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 06:40:23 PM
Well done. Is bingo blayney rockets? I saw a very ecstatic blayney rockets guy crossing the line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on October 30, 2016, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 06:40:23 PM
Well done. Is bingo blayney rockets? I saw a very ecstatic blayney rockets guy crossing the line.

He is and he did it in a savage time of 2:58:20, would that be about right?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 30, 2016, 07:10:27 PM
Fantastic running Bingo and comhgairdeas to all the GAA runners today- it looked great with 17,000 competitors.
Pride of place must go to Laura Graham. The Mourne woman had four kids before taking up the sport and came home in 2.41!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37816262 . She will be taking part in the Running for Rescue 10 mile run on 19th November in Annalong, Co Down- a great event so come along https://www.facebook.com/Running4Rescue
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
Gary O'hanlon fell at 4 mile but continued on. Ran 2:22 and has suspected ligament damage and broken ankle!!

Sounds about right boycey.

Graham has been threatening that for a while. She'll be challenging for next worlds / olympics at this rate as she's not far from the qualifying time.

Ll what was your time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 07:27:03 PM
Gary O'hanlon fell at 4 mile but continued on. Ran 2:22 and has suspected ligament damage and broken ankle!!

Sounds about right boycey.

Graham has been threatening that for a while. She'll be challenging for next worlds / olympics at this rate as she's not far from the qualifying time.

Ll what was your time?
4:40 Tommy.  Happy with it. Wanted under 4:30 and stayed with the pacers up to mile 21 but cramp took over then.
I really have done feck all proper training the last 3 or 4 weeks so I'm delighted even though I know it's slow compared to most who run on here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
It's not about anyone else laoislad just you against yourself. One of the great things about running. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 30, 2016, 11:57:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 30, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
Well lads how did we all get on?
20 minute PB for me so delighted with that considering how my training went.
Was talking to Bingo earlier and he went sub 3hr. Unreal running.
Conditions were perfect. Really enjoyed most of it. Started to cramp badly the last 3 or 4 miles but thankfully made it to finish line in one piece.

Well done laoislad. As somebody else said it's everybody against the distance. It hurts everybody.
Savage stuff by bingo in fairness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 31, 2016, 12:04:42 AM
4.59.29 for me according to the chip time. Found it harder today than my first and had to chase down the 5hr balloons on the home straight. Felt like i was sprinting but probabaly quarter pace at that stage! Knees are in tatters but got home in one piece which is the main thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on October 31, 2016, 07:37:50 AM
Got home in 3.38! Delighted. My third time applying and training for Dublin and the first time I actually made the start. Had terrible preparation - only 8 runs in the whole of October and one of those was the marathon! I knew I'd struggle beyond 18 and just dug in. The 3.30 pacers passed me in a blur at mile 19 and I really struggled with that - dropped to 9+ minute miles even though I felt I was going faster. Enjoyed the experience and the atmosphere was fantastic. Huge crowds and great organisation.
Came down stairs to get a drink and can't get back up again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
Some day for it yesterday. I was right behind the 3:50 pacers until mile 22 then collapsed unconscious. Spent the next few hours with the doctors and ended up crossing the line at 5:38. Lovely experience for my first marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 31, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
Brilliant atmosphere yesterday, the crowds were unreal. Those clappers make some noise!! Got finished in 3hours 12mins, delighted with that. Half way round I was hoping to get under 3:10 but struggled home the 3/4 miles. Legs stiff as feck today, stairs are a definite struggle.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
Some day for it yesterday. I was right behind the 3:50 pacers until mile 22 then collapsed unconscious. Spent the next few hours with the doctors and ended up crossing the line at 5:38. Lovely experience for my first marathon.
Are you ok now? Fair fcuks to you for getting to the finish line after that, that took some balls.I'm surprised the medics let you continue. Were you struggling before you collapsed?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2016, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: CD on October 31, 2016, 07:37:50 AM
Got home in 3.38! Delighted. My third time applying and training for Dublin and the first time I actually made the start. Had terrible preparation - only 8 runs in the whole of October and one of those was the marathon! I knew I'd struggle beyond 18 and just dug in. The 3.30 pacers passed me in a blur at mile 19 and I really struggled with that - dropped to 9+ minute miles even though I felt I was going faster. Enjoyed the experience and the atmosphere was fantastic. Huge crowds and great organisation.
Came down stairs to get a drink and can't get back up again!

Great time well done!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 31, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
Some day for it yesterday. I was right behind the 3:50 pacers until mile 22 then collapsed unconscious. Spent the next few hours with the doctors and ended up crossing the line at 5:38. Lovely experience for my first marathon.
Are you ok now? Fair fcuks to you for getting to the finish line after that, that took some balls.I'm surprised the medics let you continue. Were you struggling before you collapsed?

I was getting dizzy about 2 miles before it but kept on pushing. Should have read the signs. One of the medics crossed the line with me in the end up. I had a good rest yesterday and plenty of fluids so I'm well on the mend. Definitely a learning curve.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2016, 10:57:08 AM
Was it mainly dehydration??

Well done all.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on October 31, 2016, 11:36:51 AM
Well done all, i knocked 41 minutes off my previous PB...felt really strong for the entire thing. Ran a reverse race, I was 10 minutes quicker over the second half...roll on 2017.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on October 31, 2016, 11:36:51 AM
Well done all, i knocked 41 minutes off my previous PB...felt really strong for the entire thing. Ran a reverse race, I was 10 minutes quicker over the second half...roll on 2017.
Great going. Fair play
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2016, 10:57:08 AM
Was it mainly dehydration??

Well done all.

I'm putting it down to that anyway. My runs up to this point have been building up well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2016, 02:43:06 PM
Any of the rest of ye see this guy yesterday? I passed him around 12 miles and he looked fecked at that stage. He got to the finish though.
https://www.balls.ie/fitness-lifestyle/the-story-of-eiffel-tower-dublin-marathon/350293
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2016, 03:33:14 PM
All this marathon talk has me looking/thinking about doing the Amsterdam marathon next October...


Anybody do it before??

registration on the 7th of next month
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 31, 2016, 06:26:58 PM
Fair play to all the runners yesterday.

el_cuervo_fc especially. That sounds scary though.

How did Heffo get on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2016, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 31, 2016, 02:43:06 PM
Any of the rest of ye see this guy yesterday? I passed him around 12 miles and he looked fecked at that stage. He got to the finish though.
https://www.balls.ie/fitness-lifestyle/the-story-of-eiffel-tower-dublin-marathon/350293

Passed him in the park and he was struggling even then. Bloody tough enough without doin something like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
What happens if you trained for a marathon and took a chest infection the weekend of it? Just run the bollocks out of it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 31, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Well done everyone on finishing.

Didn't happen for me yesterday at all - got a bad shoulder strain from mile 10 on, it was mildly sore all week and turned into agony for the rest of the race. Got it massaged a few times and sprayed etc.

Came in around 4:15ish, was hoping for 3:50 - can't explain it and didn't enjoy it at all, was strongly thinking of turning right at the Walkinstown roundabout only I had to get a flight and my phone, keys and wallet were in the bag drop.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on November 01, 2016, 02:45:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 31, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Well done everyone on finishing.

Didn't happen for me yesterday at all - got a bad shoulder strain from mile 10 on, it was mildly sore all week and turned into agony for the rest of the race. Got it massaged a few times and sprayed etc.

Came in around 4:15ish, was hoping for 3:50 - can't explain it and didn't enjoy it at all, was strongly thinking of turning right at the Walkinstown roundabout only I had to get a flight and my phone, keys and wallet were in the bag drop.

Disappointing after all that training, but still 4:15 while injured!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
5th metatarsal clean break today. Anyone had this and how long was the recovery?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2016, 10:58:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
5th metatarsal clean break today. Anyone had this and how long was the recovery?

Running from the inspectors??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
Haha! No need to take time off....moonboot on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
Haha! No need to take time off....moonboot on.

Dedicated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macdanger2 on November 15, 2016, 12:23:17 AM
Anyone on here able to recommend a good book about running? In terms of technique / motivation
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
Hi. Looking at doing my first and last marathon next year in spring to get it out of the way. Have done a lot of half marathons but not overjoyed about training load of a full one. Looking at Longford in April. Few questions. What's the course like in terms of climbing. Is it ok to start training in January as I'm comfortably running ten kilometres at moment. Finally what way would you pace yourself to run in or around 3 hours 30. Although time is not a major concern.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2016, 08:56:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
Hi. Looking at doing my first and last marathon next year in spring to get it out of the way. Have done a lot of half marathons but not overjoyed about training load of a full one. Looking at Longford in April. Few questions. What's the course like in terms of climbing. Is it ok to start training in January as I'm comfortably running ten kilometres at moment. Finally what way would you pace yourself to run in or around 3 hours 30. Although time is not a major concern.

8 odd mintue miles... tough going I'd say to work on that time if have not done full one I'd say... what times you do for your half marathons? Did you feel strong after the race?

Doing one next year so keen to look at various different programs that are out that would suit my style of running.... not keen on the full training either but there doesn't seem to be a just turn up and wing it method
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
My half marathons are around the hour and a half mark. Legs were cramping after but felt ok apart from that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
My half marathons are around the hour and a half mark. Legs were cramping after but felt ok apart from that.

That's strong running, going another 13 miles is the killer, I finished last half on the 1.40 mark and felt strong and had better second part to race, but thoughts of doing the lot seems horrible!!

I've a few running partners lined up for when I start getting ready but not looking forward to changing my routine at the minute....

Going abroad for mine so will more than likely be running on my own!

Let me know what plan you use


Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2016, 10:27:31 PM
Bucket list, a goal a tick of a box I'd imagine... having a target is good to aim for! Some are hard do it's never a joy to train for a possible four hour slog
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 15, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
Hi. Looking at doing my first and last marathon next year in spring to get it out of the way. Have done a lot of half marathons but not overjoyed about training load of a full one. Looking at Longford in April. Few questions. What's the course like in terms of climbing. Is it ok to start training in January as I'm comfortably running ten kilometres at moment. Finally what way would you pace yourself to run in or around 3 hours 30. Although time is not a major concern.
Why would you train for and run a Marathon 'just to get it out of the way'
It's hardly a good place to be starting from if you really don't want to do it in the first place.
I'm not having a go, just curious.

Yeah just to say I've done one. Bucket list. I run a lot anyway just the training for that distance seems boring and monotonous. Also want to do a Gaelforce event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 15, 2016, 10:56:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 15, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
Hi. Looking at doing my first and last marathon next year in spring to get it out of the way. Have done a lot of half marathons but not overjoyed about training load of a full one. Looking at Longford in April. Few questions. What's the course like in terms of climbing. Is it ok to start training in January as I'm comfortably running ten kilometres at moment. Finally what way would you pace yourself to run in or around 3 hours 30. Although time is not a major concern.
Why would you train for and run a Marathon 'just to get it out of the way'
It's hardly a good place to be starting from if you really don't want to do it in the first place.
I'm not having a go, just curious.

Yeah just to say I've done one. Bucket list. I run a lot anyway just the training for that distance seems boring and monotonous. Also want to do a Gaelforce event.
Not a great start if you are thinking like that already. January/Feburary marathon training sorts the men from the boys.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 15, 2016, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
Haha! No need to take time off....moonboot on.
4 weeks boot. 2 weeks progressive loading...gradual return to running then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on November 16, 2016, 11:45:58 AM
I do want to do the marathon, doesn't mean there's parts of it not looking forward to. Mainly the twenty mile training runs. Good playlist, running partner, etc... should help. I only want to do it once I think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 17, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
My half marathons are around the hour and a half mark. Legs were cramping after but felt ok apart from that.

The rule of thumb is double the half marathon time and add 20 mins. My best is 5 minutes shy of that benchmark but think it is attainable. If you follow a good programme sensibly and it goes well on the day you should come under the 3.30.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2016, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 17, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
My half marathons are around the hour and a half mark. Legs were cramping after but felt ok apart from that.

The rule of thumb is double the half marathon time and add 20 mins. My best is 5 minutes shy of that benchmark but think it is attainable. If you follow a good programme sensibly and it goes well on the day you should come under the 3.30.

I'd be happy with that equation but does it really work? (Providing you stick to program)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2016, 07:42:18 AM
It's the same with any of these formulae. Twice distance requires a good bit more endurance. if you have trained yourself well and have that endurance...

Basically if you do the long runs then it can work. If you don't no chance.

Also marathon tempos a very good idea.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on November 22, 2016, 12:54:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2016, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 17, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 15, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
My half marathons are around the hour and a half mark. Legs were cramping after but felt ok apart from that.

The rule of thumb is double the half marathon time and add 20 mins. My best is 5 minutes shy of that benchmark but think it is attainable. If you follow a good programme sensibly and it goes well on the day you should come under the 3.30.

I'd be happy with that equation but does it really work? (Providing you stick to program)

Ah, I dunno. The McMillan guide is good for predicting times up to a half marathon based on times over shorter distances. But  it is way too optimistic about marathon time. The 'add 20 mins' is much more sympathetic than McMillan and it is still unrealistic for a lot of runners. There are so many considerations involved in a marathon. A good plan is crucial. However a lot of people set the bar too high with a target time, and the plan they follow to get it means they end up overcooked and bet before they ever run the marathon. On the other hand some people run better marathon times than what they have done in shorter distances would suggest. It is not an exact science. I saw a fella this year that did a 10k in 45mins in August and did Dublin Marathon in low 3:30s. That is extraordinary, especially considering he would be closer to 60 than 50 yrs. old and has done feck all running. There are so many variables I suppose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on November 26, 2016, 10:52:50 PM
Anyone do Seeley today? Great race for times but I hate the laps round Ormeau so I gave it a miss!

Milltown, highly recommend Amsterdam Marathon (my first and last)! Dead flat course and great support at stages with a few surreal sights on the way round! Great spot for the apres race also!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
I've recently been getting a pain in neck when out running, right down in beside my collar bone. Usually on the right hand side but has been on the left as well. Anyone experienced this before or any ideas what might be causing this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TheOptimist on December 20, 2016, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
I've recently been getting a pain in neck when out running, right down in beside my collar bone. Usually on the right hand side but has been on the left as well. Anyone experienced this before or any ideas what might be causing this?

Used to get a lot of pains in my neck, done a lot of running but was putting it done to driving and office work. Only started to get better when I joined the gym 3 months back and neck hasn't felt better in years. I've read since big cause of neck and back pain is strength related.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: TheOptimist on December 20, 2016, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
I've recently been getting a pain in neck when out running, right down in beside my collar bone. Usually on the right hand side but has been on the left as well. Anyone experienced this before or any ideas what might be causing this?

Used to get a lot of pains in my neck, done a lot of running but was putting it done to driving and office work. Only started to get better when I joined the gym 3 months back and neck hasn't felt better in years. I've read since big cause of neck and back pain is strength related.

This feels more like a stitch and passes at a while. I'd do quite a lot of shoulder and upper back exercises in the gym so would be relatively confident is nothing to do with muscular weakness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on December 20, 2016, 11:10:21 AM
I've had it before - first noticed it doing cross country at school, so not related to sitting at a desk for hours on end, nor anything muscular I don't think; like a stitch is a good description, as it passes. It could just be a cramp of sorts, but I never got to the bottom of it, and it usually didn't endure for long enough to really concern me. Let me know if you find out what causes it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 11:26:35 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 20, 2016, 11:10:21 AM
I've had it before - first noticed it doing cross country at school, so not related to sitting at a desk for hours on end, nor anything muscular I don't think; like a stitch is a good description, as it passes. It could just be a cramp of sorts, but I never got to the bottom of it, and it usually didn't endure for long enough to really concern me. Let me know if you find out what causes it

I'm not what you'd call an experienced runner so I've no idea if body acclimatising to things is part of it. I'm doing this advent running challenge that involves running 30 mins every day of advent for 30 mins and I usually cover 5-6k in that so by no means a frightening pace. Possibly something to do with barely being above beginner level.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 20, 2016, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
I've recently been getting a pain in neck when out running, right down in beside my collar bone. Usually on the right hand side but has been on the left as well. Anyone experienced this before or any ideas what might be causing this?
Do you have asthma?
Might be a breathing issue, could be apical breathing...using upper lobes and chest excessively.
Try and engage your diaphragm more, plenty of YouTube tutorials for diaphramatic breathing.
Simple test is to breathe in fully through your nose and then out. Keeping your mouth closed and pinch your nose, walk at a brisk pace and count the number of steps you take before you feel uncomfortable and have to take a breath.
If you're unable to take at least 20-30 steps comfortably then you might want to try the diaphragm breathing exercises. Elite athletes can take 60+ steps usually.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on December 20, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Gallsman u could have an AC sprain. This happens from benchin etc. Sufferin from this myself at the minute. There is a video on youtube on how to test if it is indeed this sprain
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2016, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 20, 2016, 11:26:35 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 20, 2016, 11:10:21 AM
I've had it before - first noticed it doing cross country at school, so not related to sitting at a desk for hours on end, nor anything muscular I don't think; like a stitch is a good description, as it passes. It could just be a cramp of sorts, but I never got to the bottom of it, and it usually didn't endure for long enough to really concern me. Let me know if you find out what causes it

I'm not what you'd call an experienced runner so I've no idea if body acclimatising to things is part of it. I'm doing this advent running challenge that involves running 30 mins every day of advent for 30 mins and I usually cover 5-6k in that so by no means a frightening pace. Possibly something to do with barely being above beginner level.

Diving into that without doing going regularly may possibly be your problem!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on December 20, 2016, 10:10:32 PM
I had pain in collarbone!shoulder once, only came when running, I got by back cracked by a Physio. He said my pelvis was ever so slightly of line. Seemed to cure it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
Getting new trainers this week, want to get a decent pair for doing long runs in my build up for marathon training, any decent deals on at minute? I've always bought asics

Ran every day since being off, been torture due to late nights and copious amounts of food and alcohol!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on December 27, 2016, 01:12:13 PM
Just done a lap of craigavon lakes. Bloody hell I have lost some running fitness in the last few months
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Looking through my Strava stats for the year and I'm 26 miles short of 1000 miles for the year.. doubt I'll get a Marathon in between now and midnight tomorrow!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on December 30, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Looking through my Strava stats for the year and I'm 26 miles short of 1000 miles for the year.. doubt I'll get a Marathon in between now and midnight tomorrow!

Fcuk sake that's less 20 miles a week... I'm a middle-aged fat bollix and I've walked the bloody dog further than that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 02:05:24 PM
Quote from: Boycey on December 30, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Looking through my Strava stats for the year and I'm 26 miles short of 1000 miles for the year.. doubt I'll get a Marathon in between now and midnight tomorrow!

Fcuk sake that's less 20 miles a week... I'm a middle-aged fat bollix and I've walked the bloody dog further that that
You're fantastic.
I'm happy enough with it. Missed about 5 or 6 months with a knee injury and being sick for a bit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 30, 2016, 07:36:45 PM
Great stuff LL, a good years training. I don't think my OCD could cope with not getting the round 1000 though!  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on December 30, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
Getting new trainers this week, want to get a decent pair for doing long runs in my build up for marathon training, any decent deals on at minute? I've always bought asics

Ran every day since being off, been torture due to late nights and copious amounts of food and alcohol!!

Bought new Saucony Ride2s today after having had 3 pairs of Nike Pegasus. They weren't a bargain though. Then in TK Max I came across a pair of New Balance 790v6 in my size. They were 45euro. Probably more suited to shorter stuff.

I'd hold off on then asics if I were you. They are supposed to be coming out with a new range as their popularity has fallen off. They persisted with the gel which fell out of favour. It's just too heavy. I have to admit that I was never an asics fan though.

If you're sure about size in a runner, best value probably online. I changes make so went to shop.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2016, 09:39:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on December 30, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
Getting new trainers this week, want to get a decent pair for doing long runs in my build up for marathon training, any decent deals on at minute? I've always bought asics

Ran every day since being off, been torture due to late nights and copious amounts of food and alcohol!!

Bought new Saucony Ride2s today after having had 3 pairs of Nike Pegasus. They weren't a bargain though. Then in TK Max I came across a pair of New Balance 790v6 in my size. They were 45euro. Probably more suited to shorter stuff.

I'd hold off on then asics if I were you. They are supposed to be coming out with a new range as their popularity has fallen off. They persisted with the gel which fell out of favour. It's just too heavy. I have to admit that I was never an asics fan though.

If you're sure about size in a runner, best value probably online. I changes make so went to shop.

Are they changing to a different style in line with New Balance and the Nike runners?? I've always used asics and never had any issues which keep me using them... Marathon not till October so probably need another pair before that!!

Not worried on price just whether or not they'll make the running easier/comfortable
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on December 30, 2016, 10:30:09 PM
How often do you replace the trainers? do you keep track of the miles ran, or number of times used or just length of ownership?

I was advised when younger to buy 2/3 pairs of the same runners and to rotate their use
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2016, 10:36:26 PM
You get 400-500 miles out of a pair of trainers they reckon...

Hokas have become very big in the running scene but they would mean a shift in running style.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on December 30, 2016, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 10:52:06 PM
The Nike Pegasus 33 are the best pair I've owned, expensive enough but worth it. In fairness the Adidas boost ultra I had before that were decent also. Can't wear Asics at all.

I've seen those Hoka runners. They have massive cushioning on them, can't help but think you'd  only be bouncing along rather than running.

The Hokas look like 1970's platforms. Shop today were sold out of them though!!
I did Dublin in Pegasus33 and 2 other marathons in the 32s. Liked them but inclined to heel strike so decided to go with a shoe with less dip from heel to toe. The Saucony ride is also an ounce lighter. Kayano is 2oz heavier that the saucony.
Never a fan of asics. Cumbersome and heavy. They seem to be addressing this. Gel is a gonner.
If you know anybody goin to the US get them to bring back a pair of Pearl Izumi. Class shoe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Quote from: moysider on December 30, 2016, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2016, 10:52:06 PM
The Nike Pegasus 33 are the best pair I've owned, expensive enough but worth it. In fairness the Adidas boost ultra I had before that were decent also. Can't wear Asics at all.

I've seen those Hoka runners. They have massive cushioning on them, can't help but think you'd  only be bouncing along rather than running.

The Hokas look like 1970's platforms. Shop today were sold out of them though!!
I did Dublin in Pegasus33 and 2 other marathons in the 32s. Liked them but inclined to heel strike so decided to go with a shoe with less dip from heel to toe. The Saucony ride is also an ounce lighter. Kayano is 2oz heavier that the saucony.
Never a fan of asics. Cumbersome and heavy. They seem to be addressing this. Gel is a gonner.
If you know anybody goin to the US get them to bring back a pair of Pearl Izumi. Class shoe.

My old pairs were gel style but my last asics were natural runners fluidaxis so these hokas go against a lot of the thinking on previous styles..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on January 03, 2017, 06:09:36 PM
Signing up for Longford Royal Canal Marathon at the end of April. Has anyone ever done it? It's a 5km loop. I suppose I was wondering is that monotonous? It's supposed to be flat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on January 05, 2017, 09:50:45 AM
Bit of advise if you would - since I started running a few years ago I have been using Asics Hyperspeed racing shoes (not flats), I kind of fell into wearing them and as they never caused me any problems I was wary of changing. Now to date my longest run has been around the 14km mark but I am in the process of training for Paris marathon in April.

I suppose my question is whether you would look at going for something with a bit more support or leave well enough alone.

These are the trainers I am in at the minute; http://www.asics.com/us/en-us/gel-hyper-speed-6/p/0010212673.4293 (http://www.asics.com/us/en-us/gel-hyper-speed-6/p/0010212673.4293)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on January 06, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/11/21/high-tech-trainers-likely-cause-injury-new-study-suggests/

As above the likes of this is what has me doubting new fancy trainers - while I'm sure there is a counter study which dispels this I would welcome experience of yourselves.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 11, 2017, 10:54:15 AM
Guys whats the best smart/fit watch to go with? Looking at fitbit and tomtom with a of a budget around £100
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on January 11, 2017, 05:40:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 11, 2017, 10:54:15 AM
Guys whats the best smart/fit watch to go with? Looking at fitbit and tomtom with a of a budget around £100

Depends what you are looking it for - I have a Nike+ watch, have it since Christmas '13 nothing fancy but it has done the job for me, can grab a heartrate monitor for it if required and a shoe pod for treadmill running, it is powered by TomTom, I would vouch for that at the cost as well but it is GPS running watch only.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 11, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 11, 2017, 10:54:15 AM
Guys whats the best smart/fit watch to go with? Looking at fitbit and tomtom with a of a budget around £100

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/the-only-meaningful-exercise-to-be-got-from-fitbits-is-throwing-them-into-the-bin-1.2922661#.WGtqXHW4MzR.facebook
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 11, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
Complete waste of money
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 11, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Garmin. I bought a forerunner 225 on ebay last year for £90. Can't fault it. Has an optical heart rate sensor built into it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 13, 2017, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 11, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Garmin. I bought a forerunner 225 on ebay last year for £90. Can't fault it. Has an optical heart rate sensor built into it.

I have te 220 and love it. I don't bother with heart rate to be honest. At my age your heart still works or it doesn't!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2017, 04:37:24 AM
I have a 620 which is a great job. It has the hrm too. 200 odd quid though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on January 14, 2017, 07:56:05 AM
Have a Forerunner 920
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2017, 08:56:17 AM
Quote from: heffo on January 14, 2017, 07:56:05 AM
Have a Forerunner 920

The 110 has the heart monitor also £100 new
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on January 14, 2017, 09:53:04 AM
Don't waste money on anything but a garmin. Depending on what you want, they have everything covered, obviously the more expensive the more extras you get. Even the most basic garmin has everything 99% of runners need. Buy the watch, set up your Garmin Connect account and get uploading your runs onto that. Opens a whole new world to running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 21, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
I think I mentioned it here a bit back but I bought some weights recently and have been using them regular enough.
I've noticed a nice change in my the shape of arms chest etc but I also think they have improved my running no end, doing the barbell squats etc I feel have really helped.
I've been making great strides in my 5k time since the Marathon and I'm wondering is it because of the long runs put in from Marathon training and/or taking up weights.

My 5k PB currently is 21:03 which is down from about 23:30.
I do seem to have hit a wall at that pb though and have even gone backwards a little since I set that time.

Just wondering what I can do to get that lower or more specifically a sub 20? I would really love to get to that sub 20 this year. I'm not doing a Marathon this year so have the whole year to get a sub 20 if it was possible.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
What kind of speedwork do you do?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 22, 2017, 01:47:33 PM
Some but probably not enough. I do the weights 3 nights a week and straight afterwards I jump on the treadmill and do a HIIT session of 8% Incline @16kph 20secs on 40secs off x 15 times. Don't know if that counts as speed work?
Now and again I'll do 10-12 x 400 on the treadmill.
When I run outside I'll usually just do a longish run of 10-16k and take it easy enough. Have been doing that for about 3 months now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on January 22, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
The only way to improve speed is tempo runs and speed work with 400s 800s 1600s with rest in between or some 400,800 jogs to break it up. Doing speed work on a track or forest running will help. Castlepollard 5k in August is probably the flattest 5k in Ireland. Can see finish line from over a km away which is some carrot.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 02:25:27 PM
Weights build muscle and that makes you heavier which might make you slower
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2017, 02:26:39 PM
Yeah tempo work is your best bet. Intervals will be good shorter term but tempos best.

Tempo is about twenty minutes at seventy percent effort. The point of it is that it is a controlled hard effort.

Getting better at running is basically done by making your body more efficient. Strength work will help with that. (To apoint with weight gain etc)

In intervals your first rep should be the same speed as your last- good rule of thumb.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2017, 02:50:04 PM
Tempo can be descibed as comfortably hard so you should be out of breath a bit but able to speak. At a guess 20-30 seconds a mile slower than 5k pace. Tempo runs are the best running training you can get in my view. You should give them a go.

Go too fast and they are much less benefit. So go a bit too slow first couple until you find your pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2017, 08:59:42 AM
Thanks tommy I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 23, 2017, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 23, 2017, 08:59:42 AM
Thanks tommy I'll give it a go.

When I got down to my 5k PB I found tempo runs brilliant. I'd have about a hald an hour free at lunchtime and once a week I'd do one like this - 1km slow, 3kms at 5k pace and then 1km slow to warm down. From reading here I probably did them a bit too fast but they definitely improved my speed no end.

I'm a far cry from that now. Back on the horse (yet again) last week. I'm going to mix things up a bit with spinning/circuits/abs work added in this year. Last year was a disaster so need to sort my sh1t out this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on January 23, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Use this website for judging paces, I've entered your 5K pb and these are the related paces to that. As you get more experienced you'll be able to judge paces etc, yourself. Do you have a garmin watch or something similar? Click on"Training paces" on the link below.

https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/results?hours=&minutes=21&seconds=03&distance=5000m&goalDistance=10km&ghours=&gminutes=&gseconds=

To be honest laoislad, going by your training you'll smash sub 20 with a few months structured training. Most people who run fast times structure their training something like this. Monday-Rest    Tuesday-Speed session    Wed-Easy Recovery Run (approx.35-45mins)    Thursday-Tempo    Friday-Easy Recovery or Rest    Saturday- Long Run (build up to 90 mins)    Sunday-Easy Recovery Run.

Weights can be helpful, especially leg work, but if you want to improve at running you have to run, more and smarter. I've no doubt your recent improvements are due to your long runs. I was in the same position to you about 5/6 years ago after Belfast marathon and the best bit of advice I got was to join a club, get in the middle of like minded people and learn from them. Best decision you'll make bar none!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Thanks lads.
Yeah I know joining a club is probably the best thing I could do,but to be totally honest it doesn't appeal to me for a number of reasons.
Main reason is time or lack of it between work and kids etc.It could be 10pm or later before I do a bit of training. I bought a treadmill for this very reason,not ideal I know and not everyone's cup of tae but I actually enjoy it.

Also I actually enjoy being on my own when I do go outside to run,which is strange as I played soccer for 20 years and loved being part of a team, but I really like the alone time when I'm running. I agree though you are correct and it's been said to me before that joining a club is a great way to get faster.I just don't think it's for me.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 04:51:39 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

I'm doing a marathon in April and my week involves a long run, short run and then a specialised run involving tempo running or mile long sprints with  jog inbetween. Some weeks its a couple short runs for rest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on February 15, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 15, 2017, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Ty4Sam on February 15, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so
We went to Divis/Black Mountain Saturday week ago for the first time. There's a few nice marked routes around there that you could also try if you haven't already.  My husband likes trail running and is starting to build up training for an event in the Alps in June.  We went on a clear day and the views were super and would rival Cavehill as you can see a wider aspect. 

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on February 16, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Ty4Sam on February 15, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

Good man, that all sounds good. I live on the Antrim Road so well used to running up it. Think I'll add hill repeats in every other week or so as well for the next couple of months too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 10:26:53 AM
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2017, 10:39:18 AM
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2017, 10:39:18 AM
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.
I'll let you know how it goes but it's priced well in fairness. Can't go far wrong and they guy who told me about it was raving about them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 10:26:53 AM
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.
I use a Garmin footpod when running on treadmill. Could this be used for that or what's the difference?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on February 16, 2017, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 16, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Ty4Sam on February 15, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 15, 2017, 03:30:34 PM
I'm planning on doing a marathon this summer, most likely Belfast. This'll be my third and I want to knock a bit off my PB (3:46 in Dublin a couple of years ago). I've never really got into hill running but took off the other day and ran up Cavehill in Belfast - Wikipedia says it's 370 metres up.

Is that type of hill running going to be beneficial for a marathon, or should I be looking more at hill repeats to build a bit of stamina and speed? Really enjoyed the cavehill run so I'd like to keep at that once a fortnight or so

Hill training on any kind is fantastic training, IMO you can't do enough of it. If you are doing Belfast I would recommend including hills into your long run ie. Cavehill as the main aim here is to make the one main hill in Belfast Marathon (Antrim Rd) as easy as possible. Hill repeats are fantastic at building leg strength and leg turnover, a hill repeat session ie. 10 x 2min with jog back recovery could be out into your plan every second/third week. So I do hill repeats every second/third week and try to keep my long runs hilly depending on what race I'm aiming for.

Good man, that all sounds good. I live on the Antrim Road so well used to running up it. Think I'll add hill repeats in every other week or so as well for the next couple of months too

Yeah, every other week is fine, you could alternate between hills and 800/1K/1 mile repeats every other week.. When 5/10k, even half training you can push the pace going up the hills but when training for a marathon I would recommend that you slow your ascend but also increase your descend speed so, if the session is 10x2mins I'd go, 2 mins up, 2.30 to get back to the start x 10....its more of a continuous run rather than blasting up and then slowly jogging back down which works better for shorter distances. Hope that makes sense?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2017, 10:39:18 AM
Never heard of those BM. Looks really cool and a lot cheaper than the average GPS watch. Also avoids phone carrying.
I'll let you know how it goes but it's priced well in fairness. Can't go far wrong and they guy who told me about it was raving about them.

Bought a 620 a few months ago so too late for me lol. Be good if the market prices started to come down a lot on those kind of things though as to get a good one wasn't cheap.

If you're doing hill reps I would recommend every week but in a block. i.e. do 8 -10 weeks. Also do them progressively - i.e. start at 4 or 6 on your first week and end on 14 or 16 or whatever. With doing the marathon a large set of repeats wouldn't be a bad thing. Key thing with hill sessions is that they are not about speed - they are about form. Also a rule with any repeats too is to try and keep them all the same pace. no point gunning it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 16, 2017, 10:26:53 AM
Bought myself one of these...

http://www.milestonepod.com/

Discount code is PodXOXO14

Worked out 27 euro with postage to Ireland. Have heard very good things about it, clips onto your shoe and syncs with free app on phone/iPad....loads of information.
I use a Garmin footpod when running on treadmill. Could this be used for that or what's the difference?
Haven't a clue to be honest! Probably just another version
Title: Ben Dearg Coast 10k
Post by: No1 on February 28, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
Our annual club 10k is this Sunday, be great to see some of you there. Flat, fast, decent race pack, beautiful scenery and superb post race grub!

http://athleticsni.org/Fixtures/Ben-Dearg-Coast
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on March 04, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
anyone do the carlingford half today? great course and scenery, not great weather today though. got a real soaking half way round. the only complaint is that for the price of an event like this chip timing should be used. the start was bit chaotic as there was a bit of a bottleneck at the tight start point, alot of people especially those near the back would have taken a minute or two to pass the start point but the results were posted as 'gun times' despite runners having a chip on their race number. runners were told at the start it was a chipped race then to be told at the end it was gun time is disappointing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 12:56:08 AM
Friends did it as they are getting ready for the London marathon, tough test but great run they said
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 07, 2017, 06:35:07 PM
I always did the long runs 20km+ on a empty stomach. I'm not one for eating a breakfast anyway and used to do my long runs very early on a Sunday morning around 6am so could never bring myself to eat anything so early. Longest I got up to was about 32km but even the morning of the Marathons I ate very little if anything at all.I'd be fairly hungry by the time I got home alright.!
I would bring water and gels but that was it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.

What do you have during the run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.

What do you have during the run?
usally gels altough some of these have given me an upset stomach during a race so i sometimes try to avoid taking too many. i have also carried marshmallows, jellybabies, jelly beans or skittles anything that will give you a boost. some of the proper runners on here pobably will have different nutrients to eat during race. try different things and if your happy stick with it. is this your 1st marathon? good luck with it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.

What do you have during the run?
usally gels altough some of these have given me an upset stomach during a race so i sometimes try to avoid taking too many. i have also carried marshmallows, jellybabies, jelly beans or skittles anything that will give you a boost. some of the proper runners on here pobably will have different nutrients to eat during race. try different things and if your happy stick with it. is this your 1st marathon? good luck with it.

It is yeah. Done halfs before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2017, 08:49:10 PM
slow release carbs before run - porridge your best bet. evening time brown rice or wholewheat pasta.

i have never done more than a half but if you want to use gels use them on your training runs to get your body ready.

i know a few boys who would take glucose tablets during the runs too. whatever you take try it out quite a bit in training so your body can adapt. again i know a few who struggle with gels as their stomachs find them too harsh.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 07, 2017, 09:04:14 PM
The isogels are much easier on the stomach I find.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 07, 2017, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 07, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
Need nutrition advice. Doing a marathon at end of April. During my long runs after 20km I'm out of energy. What should I eat before and during long runs. Before I have slice of toast and coffee and energy gels after during. It's not working past a certain point.
before doing a long training/marathon run i'd have more to eat beforehand than a slice of toast!! i'd have something along the lines of either porridge, banana and toast or cereal plus bit of chocolate just before i leave. that works so far for me but everybodys different.

What do you have during the run?
usally gels altough some of these have given me an upset stomach during a race so i sometimes try to avoid taking too many. i have also carried marshmallows, jellybabies, jelly beans or skittles anything that will give you a boost. some of the proper runners on here pobably will have different nutrients to eat during race. try different things and if your happy stick with it. is this your 1st marathon? good luck with it.

It is yeah. Done halfs before.

Same boat as yourself mrdeeds, doing Paris on 9th April - I go for 2 slices of toast with peanut butter & banana about an hour before setting off on long run and during I alternate at each 5km with a tracker bar & winegums. Have tried gels got on ok, though stomach didn't feel great 1 week (not sure if that was gel related), but have stuck to the trackers & wingums due to availability.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 09:34:17 PM
Just a general query to runners with flat feet and wear orthotics.

I find it difficult to wear orthotics in the runners I have at moment and when run without can get small blister on arch of foot. Just wondering anyone have problem like this and is there a decent runner with wide base to make more comfortable. Trying to break a sub 20 5k time but when pain from blister kicks in very hard to go full tilt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EagleLord on March 07, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
I wear the orthodics in all my footwear. Bar my slippers i have on at the minute  8)

I suffer from blisters on arch of foot too. always on the left one more for some reason. But when i run without the orthodics in my runners or boots, i get sore all over, ankles, calves, achilles. so im dammed if i do.. I take the blister option as its lesser of two evils. Compeed blister plasters are my saviour.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on March 22, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
Folks,

Decided to vary my fitness regime for abit and have started running again - before I was just doing the odd kettlebell/circuits class and strength/conditioning session.

Have a 5km race coming up in April and really wanna push for a good time.

To prepare I've started running a 5km route in the last week or so and getting round in about 25/26 mins (I know I could go faster in a race).  Also did a 10 km last night which I finished in 54 mins (defo didn't push myself and felt really comfortable after it).

Should I vary things further by maybe doing a fast 3km or perhaps 7km/8km?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on March 22, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: EagleLord on March 07, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
I wear the orthodics in all my footwear. Bar my slippers i have on at the minute  8)


I suffer from blisters on arch of foot too. always on the left one more for some reason. But when i run without the orthodics in my runners or boots, i get sore all over, ankles, calves, achilles. so im dammed if i do.. I take the blister option as its lesser of two evils. Compeed blister plasters are my saviour.

Two things.
Physio recently told me nobody should be wearing orthotics long term as the muscles in your feet etc begin to depend on  them and hamstring, calf etc injuries follow. Your body is all linked and if one part isnt doing its part another part is overloaded. Recently reading about barefoot training and the benefits of this for stability and mobility.

Point 2 is a bit more obscure. If u have a blister that burst but skin still attached and have very tender skin underneath then get some superglue and stick the skin flap back to your foot. Did it recently with a v sore blister and worked a treat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 23, 2017, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 22, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
Folks,

Decided to vary my fitness regime for abit and have started running again - before I was just doing the odd kettlebell/circuits class and strength/conditioning session.

Have a 5km race coming up in April and really wanna push for a good time.

To prepare I've started running a 5km route in the last week or so and getting round in about 25/26 mins (I know I could go faster in a race).  Also did a 10 km last night which I finished in 54 mins (defo didn't push myself and felt really comfortable after it).

Should I vary things further by maybe doing a fast 3km or perhaps 7km/8km?

Vary things by doing 400 and 800 metre speed work with rest in between and in 5km runs sometimes add short sprints in by using road signs etc... as a target.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Beautiful night for a run, 13km . So much easier when the weather is like that...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 23, 2017, 10:31:07 PM
Can I go for a jog with a dead leg? Just cause I'm following a training plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2017, 11:08:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 23, 2017, 10:31:07 PM
Can I go for a jog with a dead leg? Just cause I'm following a training plan.

Best not I'd say, be possible you'd damage something else while compensating with a dead leg!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 25, 2017, 12:14:12 PM
Sprained ankle out running this morning. Rolled it on pothole and heard pop. Any idea on length of time out? Swimming and gym i take it best forms of staying fit?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on April 04, 2017, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 25, 2017, 12:14:12 PM
Sprained ankle out running this morning. Rolled it on pothole and heard pop. Any idea on length of time out? Swimming and gym i take it best forms of staying fit?

You're getting physio on it I take it? I'd advise you to follow the physios instructions rigidly - Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation and as you improve do the exercises religiously. I find walking in the sea quite beneficial for a sprained ankle. The cooling effect of the water alone but possibly the salt and minerals in the sea can help too.

Good luck with the recovery.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on April 19, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
First marathon Saturday morning at 10. Just wondering what to do Friday Saturday morning in terms of diet and prep?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 20, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
BBC 1 tonight 10.45pm a show called Mind Over Marathon.  Follows a group of people who are training for the London Marathon. All of them have different mental health issues and took up running to help with their symptoms.
Looks interesting.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on April 20, 2017, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 19, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
First marathon Saturday morning at 10. Just wondering what to do Friday Saturday morning in terms of diet and prep?
plenty of fluids and food on friday and plenty of rest. Good nights sleep and a good breakfast, porridge etc. Good luck with marathon and remember dont go too crazy at the start.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2017, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 19, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
First marathon Saturday morning at 10. Just wondering what to do Friday Saturday morning in terms of diet and prep?

I'd say plenty rehydration, wouldnt eat heavy foods as to not bulk up and feeling full on race day, friend doing London and shes been told to eat lots of veg and low fiber stuff.. and a carb meal a couple of hours before the race!

What was your prep leading up to this mrdeeds?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on April 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
What did you eat / drink before your long runs?

Do not eat / drink something new different on the day of the marathon I would say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on April 20, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on April 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
What did you eat / drink before your long runs?

Do not eat / drink something new different on the day of the marathon I would say.

This is most important. Focus more on carbs than usual but make sure it is stuff that you previously ate before long runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on April 20, 2017, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on April 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
What did you eat / drink before your long runs?

Do not eat / drink something new different on the day of the marathon I would say.

Two slices of toast and jam, banana and coffee usually before long runs. They were usually in the evening though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2017, 10:23:51 AM
Some serious pace by the elite women!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2017, 11:53:03 AM
This mens race is good. Next 15 minutes interesting.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on April 23, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
The pace they're doing is sick. I struggled yesterday to a 3hr 45.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 23, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
The pace they're doing is sick. I struggled yesterday to a 3hr 45.
Fair play to you. I'd be delighted with that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on April 23, 2017, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 23, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
The pace they're doing is sick. I struggled yesterday to a 3hr 45.
Fair play to you. I'd be delighted with that!

Would have loved a sub 3 30 but was my first so bit optimistic. You really feel every niggle in second half. The professionals do theirs at my sprinting pace. Madness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
I see Sean Hehir ran a 2:16 in London today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2017, 02:09:01 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 23, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
The pace they're doing is sick. I struggled yesterday to a 3hr 45.

Great time for your first. I'd be happy for 3.59.59  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2017, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
I see Sean Hehir ran a 2:16 in London today.

Qualifying time for the worlds i think?

Well done mrdeeds.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2017, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2017, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 23, 2017, 01:09:34 PM
I see Sean Hehir ran a 2:16 in London today.

Qualifying time for the worlds i think?

Well done mrdeeds.
Yer man Scullion ran 2:17:59 - a minute outside the World's qualifying time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2017, 06:03:21 PM
He had a facebook page something like from fat to fit - poor guy let himself go from being a sub 30 10ker  :o Seaward ran low 2:17s too - he's from antrim road.

Not sure how mick clohissey finished - think 2:17s too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TheOptimist on April 25, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
Contemplating signing up for Dublin. Done Belfast 7 odd years ago but didn't really train right for it and always said id do another. I'm fitter and slimmer now than have been in a long time and in between having young babies (all going well) so might take the opportunity. Can do a 5k in under 22 pretty easy so I'm thinking use the next two months to do a 45 min 10k then do 16 weeks aiming fro 3hr30. Just don't know if I could be arsed though. Ha

Anybody else committed yet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 25, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on April 25, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
Contemplating signing up for Dublin. Done Belfast 7 odd years ago but didn't really train right for it and always said id do another. I'm fitter and slimmer now than have been in a long time and in between having young babies (all going well) so might take the opportunity. Can do a 5k in under 22 pretty easy so I'm thinking use the next two months to do a 45 min 10k then do 16 weeks aiming fro 3hr30. Just don't know if I could be arsed though. Ha

Anybody else committed yet?
Yes. Will go for a PB and gladly retire from marathons then.....maybe  ::)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Chase on April 25, 2017, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on April 25, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
Contemplating signing up for Dublin. Done Belfast 7 odd years ago but didn't really train right for it and always said id do another. I'm fitter and slimmer now than have been in a long time and in between having young babies (all going well) so might take the opportunity. Can do a 5k in under 22 pretty easy so I'm thinking use the next two months to do a 45 min 10k then do 16 weeks aiming fro 3hr30. Just don't know if I could be arsed though. Ha

Anybody else committed yet?
Seriously considering Dublin again myself. Last did it in 2014 and I still have nightmares from it. I suffered badly in the crazy heat that day as did many others! Was delighted just to finish it in the end as a few of my mates didn't.
Have done Waterford and Cork Marathons since but I would like to do Dublin again.
Will be hoping for 3:20 sort of time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on April 25, 2017, 09:39:36 PM
Signed up for Dublin this year after swearing blind after Amsterdam 2015 (my one and only) that I'd never do another!! No idea what time to target yet, plenty of time till the training starts though.

Small matter of a sprint triathlon at the end of June to get out of the way first and considering I can barely swim 50m in a pool I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew!!  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 09:44:57 PM
Quote from: No1 on April 25, 2017, 09:39:36 PM
Signed up for Dublin this year after swearing blind after Amsterdam 2015 (my one and only) that I'd never do another!! No idea what time to target yet, plenty of time till the training starts though.

Small matter of a sprint triathlon at the end of June to get out of the way first and considering I can barely swim 50m in a pool I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew!!  :o

How was Amsterdam ? Doing it this year so any tips other than don't will be welcomed!

As for your swim you'll be grand, just get in the pool and do a length at a time for your training 30 lengths for the sprint so build your training to work on ten lengths break for a minute then another ten break for two and finish off! You'll love the craic of the tris
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on April 25, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
I thought Amsterdam was brilliant but bear in mind I don't have anything to compare it to!!

Superbly organised, the expo and pack collection was stress free and dead easy to find. Public transport in the city is second to none so getting to and from the start and finish was dead easy. Starting and finishing in the old Olympic Stadium was a fantastic experience.

The course itself was dead flat as you would expect with some great buildings, parks and canals to run past, over and through!! Few really funny sights along a particularly long stretch of one of the canals. Support along the route was non existent in parts and absolutely fantastic in others. Getting the gear bag collected afterwards was very simple and again stress free which I really appreciated given the state my legs were in!!

For me the race itself was grand up until mile 22 when it decided to absolutely kick the shite out of me, I was on for sub 3:30 until that point but I ended up with 3:31 odds. Last 4 mile I will never ever forget! Looking back I think I didn't have enough water on board at that stage. 

As for the apres race, I am telling you f**k all!!

Stick to your training plan and you will be grand.

Ballinaman did the same race in a proper time so he might be able to add a bit more for you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 25, 2017, 11:11:31 PM
Quote from: No1 on April 25, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
I thought Amsterdam was brilliant but bear in mind I don't have anything to compare it to!!

Superbly organised, the expo and pack collection was stress free and dead easy to find. Public transport in the city is second to none so getting to and from the start and finish was dead easy. Starting and finishing in the old Olympic Stadium was a fantastic experience.

The course itself was dead flat as you would expect with some great buildings, parks and canals to run past, over and through!! Few really funny sights along a particularly long stretch of one of the canals. Support along the route was non existent in parts and absolutely fantastic in others. Getting the gear bag collected afterwards was very simple and again stress free which I really appreciated given the state my legs were in!!

For me the race itself was grand up until mile 22 when it decided to absolutely kick the shite out of me, I was on for sub 3:30 until that point but I ended up with 3:31 odds. Last 4 mile I will never ever forget! Looking back I think I didn't have enough water on board at that stage. 

As for the apres race, I am telling you f**k all!!

Stick to your training plan and you will be grand.

Ballinaman did the same race in a proper time so he might be able to add a bit more for you!
3.31 was a ridiculously good debut marathon No1.
Agree with all of the above, really enjoyed Amsterdam.
Liked the part along the canal....didn't mind the quiet support then, handy to keep focused!
Looking back I should have taken the electrolyte/carbohydrate drink when it was on offer during the race...only took the water, extra carbs/sugar would have helped.

I've still clear memories of desperately wanting to get into the vondelpark, About 5km from home, kept saying "where's the vondelpark?where's the vondelpark?" over and over again in my head. Got home in 2.46 thankfully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 01, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
Brillant weather brought out a big crowd today for the belfast marathon. Got new pb of 3hrs 8 mins so have to be happy with that. Time for a few beers.

Well done laura graham, fantastic achievement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2017, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
Brillant weather brought out a big crowd today for the belfast marathon. Got new pb of 3hrs 8 mins so have to be happy with that. Time for a few beers.

Well done laura graham, fantastic achievement.

Well done, was at finishing line and as you said great crowds ... great time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on May 01, 2017, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
Brillant weather brought out a big crowd today for the belfast marathon. Got new pb of 3hrs 8 mins so have to be happy with that. Time for a few beers.

Well done laura graham, fantastic achievement.

That's serious running. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Great time sheedy. Belfast is a tough marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 01, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Well done Sheedy.
I see Bingo ran a 2:54 at the Limerick Marathon yesterday.
Crazy times some of ye lads are capable of!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: UlsterMan2 on May 01, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
Excellent from Laura Graham, did Co Down proud.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2017, 10:35:13 PM
Lisburn half marathon and 10K race tonight, the heat was rotten! Massive turn out and well marshalled as usual, new route since I last done it not too many hills but you feel them all the same!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on June 22, 2017, 01:42:43 PM
Arrived in the Alps, my husband is doing the Mont Blanc Cross (14m trail run) as part of the Marathon du Mont Blanc festival. It is currently 32.5 degrees. The run's on Saturday, albeit at 8am but there's a net elevation gain of 1k in his run. I feel so sorry for him!
I will wait at the cafe on top of the ski bubble...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2017, 03:01:47 PM
Anyone ever do the 5km in Kilcock? Hearing it's a great course for PBs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2017, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: Rois on June 22, 2017, 01:42:43 PM
Arrived in the Alps, my husband is doing the Mont Blanc Cross (14m trail run) as part of the Marathon du Mont Blanc festival. It is currently 32.5 degrees. The run's on Saturday, albeit at 8am but there's a net elevation gain of 1k in his run. I feel so sorry for him!
I will wait at the cafe on top of the ski bubble...

Now that sounds like a challenge, not sitting in cafe though

Morning shouldn't be too bad! But the elevation will kill him! Ran every day in Tenerife first thing in the morning, the place was rammed with runners, never seen anyone running after 9
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 22, 2017, 10:43:23 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2017, 03:01:47 PM
Anyone ever do the 5km in Kilcock? Hearing it's a great course for PBs.
Ya, it's rapid. Narrow start but it's a great race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 07, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
Guys - every year I aim for the Warriors run when i'm upping the distance and getting into really good nick I seem to get run down and pick up sore throats, colds, flu etc that I can't shake off. Same thing happening again at the moment. I'm taking a multivitamin (centrum) and my diet is pretty good.....eating a lot more fruit and veg than in previous years. Have a pretty serious health scare earlier in the year that resulted in an operation but thankfully a full recovery and have been building myself up gradually. Doing 10k on my long runs now and don't want a layoff now but haven't run in 5 days due to feeling shite. Any advice on how to boost myself?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on July 07, 2017, 10:36:54 PM
Seanie, what distance is the Warriors? Sounds to me (by no means an expert) that you aren't getting enough rest. If you are working long hours and fitting in a heap of family stuff alongside your training then you are in danger of getting run down. I'm only speaking from personal experience so there is nothing scientific about what I'm saying. Are you getting a good nights sleep and taking a couple of rest days a week? If not, you might wanna sort that out, if you can!

As LL says, glad to hear you are recovering well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2017, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 07, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
Guys - every year I aim for the Warriors run when i'm upping the distance and getting into really good nick I seem to get run down and pick up sore throats, colds, flu etc that I can't shake off. Same thing happening again at the moment. I'm taking a multivitamin (centrum) and my diet is pretty good.....eating a lot more fruit and veg than in previous years. Have a pretty serious health scare earlier in the year that resulted in an operation but thankfully a full recovery and have been building myself up gradually. Doing 10k on my long runs now and don't want a layoff now but haven't run in 5 days due to feeling shite. Any advice on how to boost myself?
Good to hear you're recovering well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2017, 12:43:13 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 07, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
Guys - every year I aim for the Warriors run when i'm upping the distance and getting into really good nick I seem to get run down and pick up sore throats, colds, flu etc that I can't shake off. Same thing happening again at the moment. I'm taking a multivitamin (centrum) and my diet is pretty good.....eating a lot more fruit and veg than in previous years. Have a pretty serious health scare earlier in the year that resulted in an operation but thankfully a full recovery and have been building myself up gradually. Doing 10k on my long runs now and don't want a layoff now but haven't run in 5 days due to feeling shite. Any advice on how to boost myself?

Try something else! Another cardio type training to vary the workout... circuits, pump, attack, spin! Just to break the monotony of always running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 12, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
I see the Dublin Marathon has sold out 3 months early!
Anyone doing it?
Not doing it myself this year, not that I could now even if I wanted too now it's sold out!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 17, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
Lads - thanks for the good wishes. I'm feeling a lot better and managed 12.3k around most of the route of the Warriors Run on Saturday. Always a psychological boost to have that done. The race itself is 15k but approx 3k of that is off the road, the final part of the climb (on private land, only accessible the week of the race and the main part of the descent on the tourist trail path). So I'm going ok. I'm even slower than I was but I'm not too bothered so long as I get around. Legs a bit stiff so I'll have to take the wrapping off the foam roller and work out how to use it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 17, 2017, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 12, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
I see the Dublin Marathon has sold out 3 months early!
Anyone doing it?
Not doing it myself this year, not that I could now even if I wanted too now it's sold out!

Am signed up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 31, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
Anyone else watching the Usain Bolt Documentary on BBC 1 now?
Great show so far.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 31, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
Anyone else watching the Usain Bolt Documentary on BBC 1 now?
Great show so far.

Not watching. I'd imagine it's a fictional piece how chicken nuggets can help win multiple titles. Ignoring the elephant in the room.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on July 31, 2017, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 31, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
Anyone else watching the Usain Bolt Documentary on BBC 1 now?
Great show so far.

Not watching. I'd imagine it's a fictional piece how chicken nuggets can help win multiple titles. Ignoring the elephant in the room.

What is it, top 20 100m times of all time and he is the only clean one ?  :-\

Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.

Look I'm not saying he is or he's not, but he hasnt failed a drug test and he'd be tested at every event he goes to, so until then (if ever) I'll take it that hes the best sprinter that has ever been...

Would it would be libellous to say he is a drug cheat?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.

Look I'm not saying he is or he's not, but he hasnt failed a drug test and he'd be tested at every event he goes to, so until then (if ever) I'll take it that hes the best sprinter that has ever been...

Would it would be libellous to say he is a drug cheat?

It probably would. But certain athletes are held in higher esteem than others. Ferderer, Bolt, Farah etc... are media darlings and in essence untouchable and can't be questioned. Mo Farah for example has lied on numerous occasions about his relationship with known dopers and this is convienitly ignored. The 30 fastest 100 metres of all time, 21 are known drug cheaters, the other 9 are Bolts. Nadal has being scrutinised and rightly so about his dealings with certain doctors but Federer is under no scrutiny about all of a sudden winning two slams and saying he's never felt fitter.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on August 02, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 17, 2017, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 12, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
I see the Dublin Marathon has sold out 3 months early!
Anyone doing it?
Not doing it myself this year, not that I could now even if I wanted too now it's sold out!

Am signed up

Signed up too - first Dublin marathon, 2nd marathon, should be a bit cooler than the first (28 degrees) in Paris. Looking forward to it being over!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/03/mo-farah-alberto-salazar-uk-athletics-unconcerned-london-2017

Neil Black could just look all athletes in the eye rather than ramdom drug testing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on August 03, 2017, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.
Have you looked at his form when running pre-2008? Bolt's running form isn't great now but it was goddamn awful back then (head tilted back, swaying etc.). This, coupled with the fact he was still developing physically (he was only roughly 20 years old) and that he is a physical freak (with or without drugs) mean that the 0.6 second improvement was possible.

By the way, I don't know either way if he has taken drugs or not. I still think he is the fastest sprinter we have seen if everyone was clean though. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on August 03, 2017, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.
Have you looked at his form when running pre-2008? Bolt's running form isn't great now but it was goddamn awful back then (head tilted back, swaying etc.). This, coupled with the fact he was still developing physically (he was only roughly 20 years old) and that he is a physical freak (with or without drugs) mean that the 0.6 second improvement was possible.

By the way, I don't know either way if he has taken drugs or not. I still think he is the fastest sprinter we have seen if everyone was clean though.

His back is half fecked too. Read his autobiography and he says he shouldn't be any good at 100 metres because he's too tall and his back issue and yet fastest ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/03/mo-farah-alberto-salazar-uk-athletics-unconcerned-london-2017

Neil Black could just look all athletes in the eye rather than ramdom drug testing.

You think Jonathan Edwards was taking drugs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 09:58:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/03/mo-farah-alberto-salazar-uk-athletics-unconcerned-london-2017

Neil Black could just look all athletes in the eye rather than ramdom drug testing.

You think Jonathan Edwards was taking drugs?

I don't know. There was no damning evidence against him. Lingford Christie was obviously so it's not a Russia only thing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 09:58:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/03/mo-farah-alberto-salazar-uk-athletics-unconcerned-london-2017

Neil Black could just look all athletes in the eye rather than ramdom drug testing.

You think Jonathan Edwards was taking drugs?

I don't know. There was no damning evidence against him. Lingford Christie was obviously so it's not a Russia only thing.

Damning in your view seems to be world champions, or Olympic champions, you are picking And choosing now, be consistent at least

as for Christie he was done as far as I can remember
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on August 03, 2017, 10:43:11 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 01, 2017, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2017, 12:02:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2017, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Yeah he's completely fake! Huge drug user who's never been caught (tested multiple times) but to the cynics guilty by whatever suits their needs

He's from a country that has one of the worst drug testing regimes. How many times did Lance pass drugs tests? It's like Mo Farrah saying he'll never fail a drug test rather than he never took drugs.

Every sport it is rampant. Tennis. Djokovic has took a break similar to Federer last year. Odds are that he'll come back and win a couple majors. Nothing suspicious.

Let him get caught first ffs! Stick to Bolt instead of the others that got caught.. should he be caught then fine, he'll be tarnished like the rest... I suppose to you any winners or top 20 in any sport is a cheat

If there's suspicion than yeah. 2012 London Olympics was a watershed moment where a large percentage of athletes are under suspicion and then you have Lord Coe implicit in it all.

So your suspicions are??

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4742690/Was-London-2012-fact-dirtiest-Olympics-ever.html

Not just mine.

I scanned through that and not once did Bolt's name come up as a cheat, so is Bolt a cheat?

Between the 2007 World Championships and 2008 Olympics his 200 metres time improved by over 0.6 of a second. This was the days pre biological passport and Jamica doesn't do random drug tests. It would be naive to say he wasn't using performance enhancers.

He ran the 200m in 19.93 in 2004 as a 17 year old
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2017, 10:57:33 PM
Bolt was 15 and won the under 20 world championships I think, obviously drugged to the hilt......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 04, 2017, 12:45:12 PM
Watched an excellent Netflix's documentary called The Barkley Marathons, mad 100mile race in America, only 12 people have ever finished it. Could recommend it highly enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on August 04, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
Some race in the world championships 10000metres. Mo farah put under serious pressure but pulled clear in home straight. Won in time of 26.49, drugs or no drugs that is some running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Watcher on August 04, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
Was listening to a show during the week about his coach Salazar.  Openly admits to using banned substances on his sons to see how far he can push things before they fail a drugs test. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on August 05, 2017, 09:36:31 PM
Hope Bolt wins this and gets the finale his career deserves...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Me too. I think he is a one off and isn't juiced up while i think farah up to his neck in it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on August 05, 2017, 09:48:29 PM
Ah ballix..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
Ai. The hypocrisy of the brits too. Banned for drugs so boo them. One of their darlings ohorugu missed her three drug tests which is in my view the same as being guilty and they get lauded. Hypocrites.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Capt Pat on August 05, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Gatlin gets it. I never believed in Bolt anyway. Good riddance. :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 09:56:15 PM
I've no love for Gatlin but Steve Cram's commentary towards him has been a disgrace for years, so in a kind of twisted way I'm delighted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 09:56:15 PM
I've no love for Gatlin but Steve Cram's commentary towards him has been a disgrace for years, so in a kind of twisted way I'm delighted.

You would think he is a child rapist the way they are getting on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2017, 09:59:44 PM
Yeah they would sicken your hole!!! The amount of brits done over the years!! Regardless of that I wanted Bolt to win
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Gatlin came so late there and was picking up speed, am saying nothing, Age catches up with everybody and he been injured on and off from last year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 10:05:55 PM
His ssshhh to the crowd booing him was magnificent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2017, 10:08:18 PM
Gatlin to me never should been allowed back but i didnt make the rules, but American gave it large to Ben Johnson for years, when even my sprint hero Lewis was on drugs too,
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fat Angry Motorist on August 05, 2017, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 05, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 09:56:15 PM
I've no love for Gatlin but Steve Cram's commentary towards him has been a disgrace for years, so in a kind of twisted way I'm delighted.

You would think he is a child rapist the way they are getting on

Or even worse, a cyclist holding up punt kick, Taylor or dclane
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2017, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 09:56:15 PM
I've no love for Gatlin but Steve Cram's commentary towards him has been a disgrace for years, so in a kind of twisted way I'm delighted.

I would agree with this. Very selective memory boys like him as i say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 06, 2017, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: SHEEDY on August 04, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
Some race in the world championships 10000metres. Mo farah put under serious pressure but pulled clear in home straight. Won in time of 26.49, drugs or no drugs that is some running.
All the drugs under the sun that chap is taking. Salazar has him sprinkling them on his corn flakes I reckon.
The day when he's caught will be a great day!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 08:55:25 AM
Hard to see it happening now. Wonder what steve cram or paula radcliffe would say if it did happen!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on August 06, 2017, 09:02:43 AM
Jaysus you are a funny lot, it's alright that Gatlin won cause it pissed the Brits off..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on August 06, 2017, 11:06:21 AM
Feel sorry for Christian Coleman who came 2nd in the 100m Final.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 01:51:15 PM
Lads when running long distance at what stage do you take on drinks/gels/energy drinks or something else?? Been doing a few long longs and getting a bit wasted delirious at the end...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
Didnt realise you were refereeing intercounty matches ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 06, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
Didnt realise you were refereeing intercounty matches ;D

Feck aff  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...

Was the last few runs around the 14 mile mark I'm starting to flag! But yeah hydrating probably the main problem!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on August 07, 2017, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...

Was the last few runs around the 14 mile mark I'm starting to flag! But yeah hydrating probably the main problem!

For the longer runs I would get a gel in at each 5km (was doing it that way to coincide with water/food stations) no point getting it in once you are feeling spent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
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Quote from: lfdown2 on August 07, 2017, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...

Was the last few runs around the 14 mile mark I'm starting to flag! But yeah hydrating probably the main problem!

For the longer runs I would get a gel in at each 5km (was doing it that way to coincide with water/food stations) no point getting it in once you are feeling spent.

Every 5k, do they cover the hydration? was thinking of getting a belt to carry small water containers, wouldnt normally drink much, though at the Lisburn half i drank loads as the weather was warm ,which brought other hassle, need for a piss and stopping and drinking as drinking from a cup is impossible unless you stop!

Looking at new trainers today, anyone using the Hoka trainers? The fella at the Pure Running shop in Belfast said they are a decent shoe
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Muck Savage on August 07, 2017, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
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Quote from: lfdown2 on August 07, 2017, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...

Was the last few runs around the 14 mile mark I'm starting to flag! But yeah hydrating probably the main problem!

For the longer runs I would get a gel in at each 5km (was doing it that way to coincide with water/food stations) no point getting it in once you are feeling spent.

Every 5k, do they cover the hydration? was thinking of getting a belt to carry small water containers, wouldnt normally drink much, though at the Lisburn half i drank loads as the weather was warm ,which brought other hassle, need for a piss and stopping and drinking as drinking from a cup is impossible unless you stop!

Looking at new trainers today, anyone using the Hoka trainers? The fella at the Pure Running shop in Belfast said they are a decent shoe

I'm going to assume a long run is 35km-40km. Ideally you should drink a lot of water in the 24hrs before a long run. I use to drink 1-1.5 Gallons in this time, your piss should be clear. I also use to bring a water bottle with me with diluted Gatorade in it, I just carried it in my hand. I also had a t-shits with pockets in the back (like a cycling shirt) and put 4-5 gels in there. Like already mentioned take one every 5km-7km as they usually take 30-40mins to actually kick in.
I remember reading somewhere that your body has about 2000 calories to burn pretty fast (glycogen). After that is starts to eat into fat but that takes time to convert so on a run it's not much help. You burn apron 100 calories per mile so ~2600 calories per marathon so there is a gap there of about 600 calories, each gel has ~100 calories that the body can convert pretty fast. There are a number of websites to calculate what you will burn based on weight/height/speed etc. to be more accurate. Its pretty simple that once you run out of glycogen you crash.
All of this assumes that the week prior to along run you eat the right food in preparation.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2017, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Muck Savage on August 07, 2017, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
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Quote from: lfdown2 on August 07, 2017, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
I would say about the 2 hour mark. If you need it way before then you probably aren't eating and/ or hydrating enough beforehand...

Was the last few runs around the 14 mile mark I'm starting to flag! But yeah hydrating probably the main problem!

For the longer runs I would get a gel in at each 5km (was doing it that way to coincide with water/food stations) no point getting it in once you are feeling spent.

Every 5k, do they cover the hydration? was thinking of getting a belt to carry small water containers, wouldnt normally drink much, though at the Lisburn half i drank loads as the weather was warm ,which brought other hassle, need for a piss and stopping and drinking as drinking from a cup is impossible unless you stop!

Looking at new trainers today, anyone using the Hoka trainers? The fella at the Pure Running shop in Belfast said they are a decent shoe

I'm going to assume a long run is 35km-40km. Ideally you should drink a lot of water in the 24hrs before a long run. I use to drink 1-1.5 Gallons in this time, your piss should be clear. I also use to bring a water bottle with me with diluted Gatorade in it, I just carried it in my hand. I also had a t-shits with pockets in the back (like a cycling shirt) and put 4-5 gels in there. Like already mentioned take one every 5km-7km as they usually take 30-40mins to actually kick in.
I remember reading somewhere that your body has about 2000 calories to burn pretty fast (glycogen). After that is starts to eat into fat but that takes time to convert so on a run it's not much help. You burn apron 100 calories per mile so ~2600 calories per marathon so there is a gap there of about 600 calories, each gel has ~100 calories that the body can convert pretty fast. There are a number of websites to calculate what you will burn based on weight/height/speed etc. to be more accurate. Its pretty simple that once you run out of glycogen you crash.
All of this assumes that the week prior to along run you eat the right food in preparation.

Not at 35k yet a few 25k's recently but being pig ignorant I thought I'd be grand, not the hitting the wall feeling but I'd imagine another 5k I'd have collapsed !



Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
Pre hydration and fueling very important if you're not used to it. Also proper pace is important. Too fast without the fitness and you will struggle.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
Pre hydration and fueling very important if you're not used to it. Also proper pace is important. Too fast without the fitness and you will struggle.

2 weeks in Florida didn't help! Diet was huge breakfasts at IHOP Wendy's in afternoon and Red Lobster at night beers and wine!! So hopefully back on track now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dclane on August 12, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
The drugs didn't work for Mo tonight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 12, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: dclane on August 12, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
The drugs didn't work for Mo tonight.

Good to see!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
So was he on drugs or not??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 12, 2017, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
So was he on drugs or not??
Ethiopians were on better drugs tonight
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Watcher on August 12, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
Delighted to see it, at one stage the commentators were comparing him to the All Blacks.  For want of a better word, wankers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
The big ethiopian dude broke him then didn't even get a medal.

I would say yes mr. There are too many dodgy connections but unlikely we will ever know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
So we are assuming? Surely if he was doped up he'd have won?? I think in the main all sports people at some level are on enhancing drugs, be it GAA or Lacrosse unfortunately.. me personally I'll wait till they are caught
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 12, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
So we are assuming? Surely if he was doped up he'd have won?? I think in the main all sports people at some level are on enhancing drugs, be it GAA or Lacrosse unfortunately.. me personally I'll wait till they are caught
The fall will be delicious when it comes to Farah.

https://twitter.com/modoorbell/status/891624875068198913
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 08:54:05 PM
So we are assuming? Surely if he was doped up he'd have won?? I think in the main all sports people at some level are on enhancing drugs, be it GAA or Lacrosse unfortunately.. me personally I'll wait till they are caught

That's assuming the people who defeated him aren't. Ethiopia, where farah trains,  has very dubious testing. I prefer to think bolt and even froome not up to their neck in it but farah has a lot of dubious things going on.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
I'm not saying he is and backed it up with most successful sports people are regardless of the sport.... my beef is with the ones giving off while praising other sports men (soccer, hurling, football, golf ) thinking they are clean?

At what point do wr think this 'Winner' is clean?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
The detractors have built a list of 21 unanswered questions on farah. He has suspect allegiances with salazar and aden and then some though.

The reality is that endurance sports can have huge gains made in them by pushing "science" boundaries so it will always lend itself to big question marks. Power and speed sports have the steroids aspect too. There are a lot of very probing journalists who jump all over athletes when they make suspect moves. They have been alloverfarah for along timewith a lotof questions.

I do see what you are saying but some have more questions on them than others with farah being one of them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
The detractors have built a list of 21 unanswered questions on farah. He has suspect allegiances with salazar and aden and then some though.

The reality is that endurance sports can have huge gains made in them by pushing "science" boundaries so it will always lend itself to big question marks. Power and speed sports have the steroids aspect too. There are a lot of very probing journalists who jump all over athletes when they make suspect moves. They have been alloverfarah for along timewith a lotof questions.

I do see what you are saying but some have more questions on them than others with farah being one of them.

I get it, Farah is running with a black cloud.. but flip sake!! Ones complaining about Jamaica testing being the worst and doubting them but with the brits being better at testing surely something must come out?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 10:11:24 PM
More drug cheats winning the 4x4 100 metres
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2017, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 12, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
The detractors have built a list of 21 unanswered questions on farah. He has suspect allegiances with salazar and aden and then some though.

The reality is that endurance sports can have huge gains made in them by pushing "science" boundaries so it will always lend itself to big question marks. Power and speed sports have the steroids aspect too. There are a lot of very probing journalists who jump all over athletes when they make suspect moves. They have been alloverfarah for along timewith a lotof questions.

I do see what you are saying but some have more questions on them than others with farah being one of them.

I get it, Farah is running with a black cloud.. but flip sake!! Ones complaining about Jamaica testing being the worst and doubting them but with the brits being better at testing surely something must come out?

He doesn't live in britain. I get what you get. I just have reservations here. I prefer not to think like that but when your coach writes a paper stating the way to beat the africans is to dope then you are leaving yourself very open to doubters.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: StGallsGAA on August 12, 2017, 10:24:21 PM
Paula Radcliffe sniggering when the presenter asked her about Bolt pulling up made her look good!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2017, 08:44:45 PM
Amsterdam marathon coming up, Training in full mode now! Two 13 plus miles this last few days, Thursday and Sunday... weather has been great lately so makes it easier and new trainers have worked a treat..

just notice that the first mile is crap!! After that it's all good not sure if it's the head or body that needs sorted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
Got the Dublin Ironman 70.3 finished today. Tough going but that should set me up nicely for the Dublin marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
Got the Dublin Ironman 70.3 finished today. Tough going but that should set me up nicely for the Dublin marathon

Friend did it said it was a great day and well run, fair play
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2017, 11:31:44 PM
Yeah it was a great event. First time doing it so delighted to get it done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
Got the Dublin Ironman 70.3 finished today. Tough going but that should set me up nicely for the Dublin marathon

Friend did it said it was a great day and well run, fair play

My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 21, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage

Am signed up for a full distance next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Slightly off topic. Anyone ever went private on an MRI scan following an injury?

What sort of money you talking?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Slightly off topic. Anyone ever went private on an MRI scan following an injury?

What sort of money you talking?
from €200 up

http://www.alliancemedical.ie/medical-scan-prices/ (http://www.alliancemedical.ie/medical-scan-prices/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage

Am signed up for a full distance next year

Seems like a big step up alright. The cycling and swimming wouldn't bother me. The running would be my weakest so I'd need to get plenty of miles under the belt. Struggled with the run yesterday but still got under 2 hours for the half marathon so I was happy enough. The cycle went well so I'd a good cushion to finish under the 5:30 mark.

Where are you signed up for next year heffo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 21, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage

Am signed up for a full distance next year

Seems like a big step up alright. The cycling and swimming wouldn't bother me. The running would be my weakest so I'd need to get plenty of miles under the belt. Struggled with the run yesterday but still got under 2 hours for the half marathon so I was happy enough. The cycle went well so I'd a good cushion to finish under the 5:30 mark.

Where are you signed up for next year heffo?

That's a great time to finish in yesterday.

I'm doing Austria
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
I did a sprint triathlon few years back
did 4/5 weeks training
mainly swimming and cycling
did no running training as I had a knee injury

was really enjoyable and finished in top 20 and a really good time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Slightly off topic. Anyone ever went private on an MRI scan following an injury?

What sort of money you talking?
from €200 up

http://www.alliancemedical.ie/medical-scan-prices/ (http://www.alliancemedical.ie/medical-scan-prices/)

Cheers lad
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 06:24:43 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Slightly off topic. Anyone ever went private on an MRI scan following an injury?

What sort of money you talking?

I got it on private health a few years ago. Thought it was 400ish but likely marked up for bupa.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 21, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
My second time doing - great event - weather Gods were with us yesterday too

We got lucky alright. Glad to get finished before the rain started. The debate is on now whether to go to the next level or not

Huge step up all the same! toying with it for about a year now, takes a huge commitment training wise to get to that level... 2 close friends have competed in 6 different Ironman competitions around Europe. They were mainly cyclists and had to improve their running and swimming to be able to get over the line... Years ago you could have finished regardless of the time but now you have a time limit for each part, if you don't complete it they stop you before you take up the next stage

Am signed up for a full distance next year

Seems like a big step up alright. The cycling and swimming wouldn't bother me. The running would be my weakest so I'd need to get plenty of miles under the belt. Struggled with the run yesterday but still got under 2 hours for the half marathon so I was happy enough. The cycle went well so I'd a good cushion to finish under the 5:30 mark.

Where are you signed up for next year heffo?

That's a great time to finish in yesterday.

I'm doing Austria

Fair play lads! Under 2hours for the running at that stage is good going!

For me the cycling would be my weakest as I don't bother training with it, you can be as fit as you like but unless you put the miles in for cycling you're beat!!

I think one of the guys I know did Austria last year! He's older than me my height (small) but feck he's fit as feck! Seems for them they just have a small break during the winter, and back at it.. I'm struggling to stick to my marathon training never mind training for Ironman
Title: Re: Running
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Marathon training is tough going. The big runs each week fairly sap the energy levels. 9 odd weeks left to Dublin so I'd need to get my finger out
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Marathon training is tough going. The big runs each week fairly sap the energy levels. 9 odd weeks left to Dublin so I'd need to get my finger out

Been doing 15 miles handy enough lately with no niggles and recovery is very quick...Championship season and can't get regular runs due to refereeing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 27, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
Got round the Warriors Run yesterday. Feckin delighted. Huge for me personally after having major surgery in February. My 3rd one and easily the toughest due to the wet conditions on the mountain but strangely my lower expectations meant I probably enjoyed* the run more than other years (* in as much as you can enjoy this kid of torture). I would have been content to get round in 2 hours so my 1:54:15 was more than satisfying. The winner did it in 53 minutes odd which is simply insane. I had my TomTom watch and iPhone (mapmyrun) on me and they measured the course at 14.1k and 14.4k respectively (anyone else think mapmyrun is calibrated on the forgiving side?). Anyway - brilliantly run event yet again and a super night afterwards. 900+ runners.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 27, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
Well done seanie. Great achievement especially after your health scare.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 27, 2017, 08:34:47 PM
Well done Seanie. Serious race!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 08:49:15 PM
Yeah well done seanie. I have heard great reports about that race and the night drinking afterwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 28, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 08:49:15 PM
Yeah well done seanie. I have heard great reports about that race and the night drinking afterwards.

I'm much more naturally suited the the drinking afterwards. Legs in absolute ribbons.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on August 31, 2017, 08:12:43 PM
Good man Seanie well done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 28, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 08:49:15 PM
Yeah well done seanie. I have heard great reports about that race and the night drinking afterwards.

I'm much more naturally suited the the drinking afterwards. Legs in absolute ribbons.

Sure we all are. At least when you do something like that you earn it lol.

Anyone have any wireless issues with their garmin? Bluetooth and wifi stopped working on mine. I can upload it through the wire but nothing else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 13, 2017, 08:47:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 28, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 08:49:15 PM
Yeah well done seanie. I have heard great reports about that race and the night drinking afterwards.

I'm much more naturally suited the the drinking afterwards. Legs in absolute ribbons.

Sure we all are. At least when you do something like that you earn it lol.

Anyone have any wireless issues with their garmin? Bluetooth and wifi stopped working on mine. I can upload it through the wire but nothing else.
Happens me sometimes. I've the Forerunner 225.
Switching the Phone on and off usually fixes it.
Also I find if I open the Garmin app on the Phone and click on Activites>Running before I sync the watch then the syncing starts almost instantly. If I don't do that the Phone takes forever to find the watch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 09:04:43 PM
Can anyone recommend a good pair of runners at a resonable price that Lifestyle stock? I have a voucher for there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 09:04:43 PM
Can anyone recommend a good pair of runners at a resonable price that Lifestyle stock? I have a voucher for there.

Running with Hoka's at the minute, £105 bit expensive but so far so good! Great on big runs and recovery has been quicker and better since using them over my regular ASIC .. going cheaper may in the long run work out worst
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 23, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Dublin Half Marathon a shambles today apparently.
People going mad on Twitter and Facebook about the traffic. Loads had to turn around and come home.
Dunno why they just didn't leave it in the Phoenix Park.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 23, 2017, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 23, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Dublin Half Marathon a shambles today apparently.
People going mad on Twitter and Facebook about the traffic. Loads had to turn around and come home.
Dunno why they just didn't leave it in the Phoenix Park.
numbers are capped at 8,000 in the Phoenix

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
Just read on twitter ll. Sounds shambolic... Lots of not too happy people who just went home in frustration.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Billys Boots on September 25, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
Just read on twitter ll. Sounds shambolic... Lots of not too happy people who just went home in frustration.

Shambles isn't the half of it - a ca. 10,000 town was cut off from the outside world for 3 hours, no access to emergency services, people couldn't go to work.  Fingal CC already distancing themselves from the 'organisation' of the event - the 'race director' looks like he is being lined up for the shafting.  There's a reason why these events are run in cities that seems to have passed the 'organisers' by.  Bizarre stuff. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 25, 2017, 10:09:11 AM
Myself and a friend signed up for it months ago. We had a look at the traffic management plan and parking and decided to give it a miss and do our long run in the park instead.

One narrow road in and one road out - jokeshop.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 25, 2017, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 25, 2017, 10:09:11 AM
Myself and a friend signed up for it months ago. We had a look at the traffic management plan and parking and decided to give it a miss and do our long run in the park instead.

One narrow road in and one road out - jokeshop.
I didnt sign up for it as I bring the young fella to soccer training out that way every Saturday and I knew the traffic would be mental on those roads. Even at 3pm last Saturday when I was bringing him there was still hold ups.
Back to the Phoenix Park next year I'd say. Can't understand how they thought it would ever work up there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

you were looking sharp last night

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 26, 2017, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 25, 2017, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 25, 2017, 10:09:11 AM
Myself and a friend signed up for it months ago. We had a look at the traffic management plan and parking and decided to give it a miss and do our long run in the park instead.

One narrow road in and one road out - jokeshop.
I didnt sign up for it as I bring the young fella to soccer training out that way every Saturday and I knew the traffic would be mental on those roads. Even at 3pm last Saturday when I was bringing him there was still hold ups.
Back to the Phoenix Park next year I'd say. Can't understand how they thought it would ever work up there.

I read that entries were capped at 8,000 in the park- why they thought they could accomodate more out there??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

you were looking sharp last night

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way

Was fecked, recovery run just, how many miles you get done? and keep it up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

you were looking sharp last night

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way

Was fecked, recovery run just, how many miles you get done? and keep it up

First run in 2 weeks after a chest infection, was happy enough to do 5.4k. Been training doing bootcamp with running 3 nights a week , plus extra weights and running. We run up Cavehill every Saturday morning, take different routes. Great for leg strength
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

you were looking sharp last night

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way

Was fecked, recovery run just, how many miles you get done? and keep it up

First run in 2 weeks after a chest infection, was happy enough to do 5.4k. Been training doing bootcamp with running 3 nights a week , plus extra weights and running. We run up Cavehill every Saturday morning, take different routes. Great for leg strength

Good man, and you's all seemed to look like your were enjoying it, well considering lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
There was a group that did a haphazard half marathon race in Belfast a while back, turned out to be a joke also, water stations were poor, organising it was badly done and wasn't really associated with any running club, I'm sure imtommygun could fill in the details but it sounds like it was a money making thing rather than something that would normally be expected for a city race!

Less than 3 weeks to go for me, did my long run there on Sat morning , my phone lost battery service at 28.8km but I'd ran another 3.2 km to get to 32km... pace was 5/23 and no real issues, knees sore yesterday but all good today...

should I do another long one before the 15th? The thought of doing it is sickening! To be fair I've not stuck to a plan, just to busy so I've just got out when I could

you were looking sharp last night

Second time using the gels, think they work, used a water belt which carried 2 300ml bottles managed to have a small bit left at the end but I was thinking of filling them at a station along the way

Was fecked, recovery run just, how many miles you get done? and keep it up

First run in 2 weeks after a chest infection, was happy enough to do 5.4k. Been training doing bootcamp with running 3 nights a week , plus extra weights and running. We run up Cavehill every Saturday morning, take different routes. Great for leg strength

Good man, and you's all seemed to look like your were enjoying it, well considering lol

Enjoying ti would be a bit drastic lol. Signed up for a few 10k runs coming up so that gives me a target to get out, don't think I'd ever hit your standards but its all relevant. you have serious targets, I'm trying to get back in shape and lose a few kg lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 26, 2017, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
We run up Cavehill every Saturday morning, take different routes. Great for leg strength
We've just moved back to north Belfast and my husband previously loved running up Cavehill.  Could you set out some of the different routes so I can pass the info on?  He did out to Jordanstown and back along the loughshore on Sunday but I'd say that would get a bit tedious as the only hill variance is running back up Fortwilliam Park to the house.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: Rois on September 26, 2017, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 26, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
We run up Cavehill every Saturday morning, take different routes. Great for leg strength
We've just moved back to north Belfast and my husband previously loved running up Cavehill.  Could you set out some of the different routes so I can pass the info on?  He did out to Jordanstown and back along the loughshore on Sunday but I'd say that would get a bit tedious as the only hill variance is running back up Fortwilliam Park to the house.


Rois he's more than welcome to join us, we go different routes from the Castle, sometimes up the steps and back that way (approx 5.7km), sometimes we go up via the caves and steep climb from there and back down the (approx 4.6km). We all train together in PureGym, it has built into a group of people of various ages and abilities prepared to get themselves fitter plus it has a social element too, lots of people are very friendly with each other now. A few of the guys live in around Fortwilliam too ,PM me if you want
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 26, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
Read about a doctor getting in shit in America over a sign in his waiting room...it read something like..

Diabetes doesn't run in your family
Back pain doesn't run in your family
Not running runs in your family


;D love it personally.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Anyone get into London?
Got my thanks but no thanks email this morning   :'(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 06, 2017, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Anyone get into London?
Got my thanks but no thanks email this morning   :'(

same...anyone any other recommendations for April/May next year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 06, 2017, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Anyone get into London?
Got my thanks but no thanks email this morning   :'(

same...anyone any other recommendations for April/May next year?
The Manchester and Liverpool marathons are in April and May.
The Manchester marathon in particular gets good reviews.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 06, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 06, 2017, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Anyone get into London?
Got my thanks but no thanks email this morning   :'(

same...anyone any other recommendations for April/May next year?
The Manchester and Liverpool marathons are in April and May.
The Manchester marathon in particular gets good reviews.
Massive balls up 2 years ago, 2-3 hour lines to collect bags after the race. Sorted it out last year it seems.
Limerick marathon getting more numbers each year, May bank holiday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
I thought I read somewhere  (boards.ie I think ) saying the Manchester one was good.

You're doing some workouts yourself ballinaman. Your Strava uploads are like Physics equations  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 06, 2017, 04:59:51 PM
Got the rejection email myself about London, kinda relieved though because this training for Dublin is beginning to wear thin, I'd forgotten how much time and effort is required for marathon training.

Good list here lfdown:

http://www.marathonrunnersdiary.com/races/europe-marathons-list.php (http://www.marathonrunnersdiary.com/races/europe-marathons-list.php)

Hamburg and Rotterdam look good.  North Pole one is a bargain at only 15,000 euro if you enter now!!

Not sure if you've done Belfast before but I'd avoid it in May, too many relay runners (I've only ever done the relay) and don't think the full course is all that inspiring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
Amsterdam next weekend for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 07, 2017, 02:00:13 PM
Has anybody ran the Derry marathon? Looking at it or Belfast next year since I missed the entry for Dublin and got the rejection for London.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2017, 07:38:58 PM
I have never ran it but know quite a few who have. I have heard nothing but good things about it. Unsure on what it's like in terms of hills etc though.

It sounds to be organised by runners for runners unlike belfast.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 07, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
I thought I read somewhere  (boards.ie I think ) saying the Manchester one was good.

You're doing some workouts yourself ballinaman. Your Strava uploads are like Physics equations  ;D
Haha...the end result is always the same...PAIN  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2017, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 07, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
I thought I read somewhere  (boards.ie I think ) saying the Manchester one was good.

You're doing some workouts yourself ballinaman. Your Strava uploads are like Physics equations  ;D
Haha...the end result is always the same...PAIN  ;D

https://youtu.be/lSPNQ82Sq4E
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
Lol. Exactly what i first thought ll.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 08, 2017, 10:31:57 AM
100% accurate prediction  ;D . The world of pain from 20-26.2 is something else, hopefully will have trained enough to tolerate it to keep it going...few more weeks to go only thankfully before Dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 08, 2017, 07:31:20 PM
3rd 20 miler in a row this weekend - nothing enjoyable about them at all
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on October 08, 2017, 07:52:14 PM
Annual plug for a lovely 10 miler on 4th November - nice detox after Dublin for those doing it- chance to compare yourself against Ireland's Number One Marathon Woman in a field of 100 followed by the best of home made food, no fee but hopefully a donation to Mourne Mountain Rescue;https://www.facebook.com/Running4Rescue/

Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 08, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Went out Friday night to do 22, last long one before tapering, got to 17 and could go no further...just about managed to make it to 17. Don't know what happened, looking at splits there was no major slip up that way, the only thing I can think of was that it was the first long run done in the evening (just suited us better to get out Friday night), as well as that I hadn't altered midweek so had done 5 Tue morn, 10 Wed morn & 5 Thu morn.

As I say as per the plan we are following we are to taper from here on - question is would you stick to the plan or try and get a a 20 miler in next weekend (leaning towards it being a blip and that I will just stick to the plan) - annoying thing being that it is the last long run, had done 2 20 milers already and finished them v strong, it just sows a bit of doubt in the head!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 08, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Went out Friday night to do 22, last long one before tapering, got to 17 and could go no further...just about managed to make it to 17. Don't know what happened, looking at splits there was no major slip up that way, the only thing I can think of was that it was the first long run done in the evening (just suited us better to get out Friday night), as well as that I hadn't altered midweek so had done 5 Tue morn, 10 Wed morn & 5 Thu morn.

As I say as per the plan we are following we are to taper from here on - question is would you stick to the plan or try and get a a 20 miler in next weekend (leaning towards it being a blip and that I will just stick to the plan) - annoying thing being that it is the last long run, had done 2 20 milers already and finished them v strong, it just sows a bit of doubt in the head!

It's in your legs already... you'll be grand, I'd a blip like that recently and question why the feck am I doing this!! Next run was great (well how 21 miles can be great is beyond me)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
So did Amsterdam Marathon at the weekend, 22 degrees and 53 thousand runners, course record at 2.05, not me! I've been to a few sporting events but I've not seen a city put on an event like this, I'm sure London and New York Berlin and Paris have cracking marathons but I've not actually witnessed them other than on TV but to experience it while doing it is something else..

As for the race my prep could have been so much better, I'd done one long run and plenty short runs but didn't stick to any plan... got to Amsterdam on the Friday night with family and didn't have a beer! But the in laws came on the Saturday and we all did the touristy stuff, involving lots of walking and eating shite!

Indonesian restaurant that night, bottle red and two beers at bar in Dam square!! But I was in bed for 10.30, decent sleep and ready for race at the Olympic stadium for 9.30 start....

As you way in the place is banging with typical Dutch techno! Whistles going and its a bit like a rave...

Plan was simple race my own race and stick to the pace I'd been running with.. running at about 8min miles or 5.05 min per km I was feeling strong, caught the 3.40 pacers at about the ten mile mark ran on by them still feeling strong around the 16/17 miles I thought I could see in the distance the 3.30 lads... but the wheels came off at 35km marker, cramp stiffness and the last five miles the pacers past me and I was in reverse...

Fighting with myself mentally to finish! Last km was a huge struggle but once I got near stadium I picked up pace to sprint the last few hundred metres to finish on chip time 4 hours dead on !!

To say I was emotional is an understatement... I'll never underestimate the difficulty of doing a marathon again.. can't see me entering  again but I won't dismiss it but will learn from my mistakes or ignorance possibly of how demanding it is!

Good luck to any of the Dub runners on their race coming up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Well done mr.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 18, 2017, 09:18:20 AM
Brilliant stuff MR2, well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Brilliant stuff, sounds just like how Paris went for me, loving the first 20 miles then cramping up, dehydrating and limping over the line in near tears!

Butterfly's are kicking in now for Dublin...hopefully won't be (as) painful for the last 6 mile!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Brilliant stuff, sounds just like how Paris went for me, loving the first 20 miles then cramping up, dehydrating and limping over the line in near tears!

Butterfly's are kicking in now for Dublin...hopefully won't be (as) painful for the last 6 mile!!

I'd plenty hydration and they had isotar drinks all the way round, latter stages bananas too, so on reflection I lost it in the head I think, I'd cramp on the 35km mark but I was still able to have a quick (quicker than last 4km) final last 1km which I think once I seen that sign I started running quicker!!

For me if I were thinking of another one I'd train differently and take on board the mistakes I made leading up to the race and during it!! Chasing 3.30 was foolish and led to me possibly faltering earlier than I would have...

I changed plan during race because my body told me different! I wouldn't do that again!

I've about 5/6 friends all heading for Dublin, one girl on her 4th marathon in a year, London Belfast Cork and now Dublin!! And she broke a bone in her foot a couple of weeks after Cork! Fecking nuts!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 19, 2017, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 18, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
Brilliant stuff, sounds just like how Paris went for me, loving the first 20 miles then cramping up, dehydrating and limping over the line in near tears!

Butterfly's are kicking in now for Dublin...hopefully won't be (as) painful for the last 6 mile!!

I'd plenty hydration and they had isotar drinks all the way round, latter stages bananas too, so on reflection I lost it in the head I think, I'd cramp on the 35km mark but I was still able to have a quick (quicker than last 4km) final last 1km which I think once I seen that sign I started running quicker!!

For me if I were thinking of another one I'd train differently and take on board the mistakes I made leading up to the race and during it!! Chasing 3.30 was foolish and led to me possibly faltering earlier than I would have...

I changed plan during race because my body told me different! I wouldn't do that again!

I've about 5/6 friends all heading for Dublin, one girl on her 4th marathon in a year, London Belfast Cork and now Dublin!! And she broke a bone in her foot a couple of weeks after Cork! Fecking nuts!
Super stuff MR2, marathon is an absolute grind no matter what so you weren't the only one feeling it coming home.

The temperatures would definitely have had an impact. The head can start to go before the legs around 20-22, brain needs carbohydrate too to function.

Bit of a double edged sword in last 6 miles of marathon , you need to be able to mentally tolerate the pain but you've got to have it in the legs too...one feeds into the other.

Great video on what happens body during a marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQs4SqirpzY&sns=em
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Great video!

I feel like heading out for a recovery run/jog tonight but feel scared lol!!!

I checked out your Splits ballinaman for the same race in amsterdam! Feck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 19, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Great video!

I feel like heading out for a recovery run/jog tonight but feel scared lol!!!

I checked out your Splits ballinaman for the same race in amsterdam! Feck!
Take it easy, slow as you can go nearly...body will still be in bits.

Feck is right, ballsed that race up in the first 5 miles..bit too saucy and paid for it from 18 onwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
Hard enough running a Marathon without being sent the wrong way!
Ballinaman might win on sunday if the same thing happens!
https://www.rte.ie/sport/athletics/2017/1023/914544-unheralded-runner-wins/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?

MAD!!

Unless you just go along and and enjoy it at a nice easy pace and its.. a lot depends on when you did that 18miler.. looking back at mine i wish i had have trained better and i did a lot of miles but not routinely as such, with one 21 miler that left me slightly mad at the end of it..

Big buzz with a few friends doing it at the weekend, so good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on October 24, 2017, 12:14:45 PM
Done 18 mile about 3 years ago! LOL

I wouldn't be trying to break any records but if i did I would like to try and get round in 4 hours!

I'm not sure myself and  I am currently in the I won't do it mindset.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
I guess this is the best place for it. Ive entered tough mudder next year. 10 miles, 20 obstacles. Has anyone any experience of these?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
I guess this is the best place for it. Ive entered tough mudder next year. 10 miles, 20 obstacles. Has anyone any experience of these?

Great craic but you'll feel it the next day for sure!! and week.. not a race as such but tough on the legs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
I guess this is the best place for it. Ive entered tough mudder next year. 10 miles, 20 obstacles. Has anyone any experience of these?

Great craic but you'll feel it the next day for sure!! and week.. not a race as such but tough on the legs

cheers. Thinking of maybe doing a couple fell runs to practice. Anybody know of any in the north? Or of that's even a good idea?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on October 24, 2017, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
I guess this is the best place for it. Ive entered tough mudder next year. 10 miles, 20 obstacles. Has anyone any experience of these?

Great craic but you'll feel it the next day for sure!! and week.. not a race as such but tough on the legs

cheers. Thinking of maybe doing a couple fell runs to practice. Anybody know of any in the north? Or of that's even a good idea?

Try the below, usually held around my way - they are pretty miserable

https://www.bstextreme.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 24, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?
Quote from: WT4E on October 24, 2017, 12:14:45 PM
Done 18 mile about 3 years ago! LOL

I wouldn't be trying to break any records but if i did I would like to try and get round in 4 hours!

I'm not sure myself and  I am currently in the I won't do it mindset.
who is thinking of doing the marathon, WT43 or Radda bout yeee??   ;)

Doing it myself but absolutely dosed with a cold at the minute. Nightmare. >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 24, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Who all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2017, 03:32:59 PM
Not me this year. I'll be in the Pheonix Park cheering ye on though. Best of luck to everyone running. Dublin is a great Marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Estimator on October 24, 2017, 03:38:53 PM
Injury Question:
I'd generally run about three times a week, not big miles at all, (35-50miles a month).  I was out for a run last Tuesday and I'd a bit of a niggle/strain in my left leg around the calf/achilles area, after the run I probably didn't stretch as well as I should have done.  It bothered me a bit for the rest of the week, but I didn't think too much about it, as I didn't think it was anything serious. So, I went out for another run on Sunday morning 
About 1mile in my calf/Achilles was starting to ache, and by the time I'd almost two miles complete, it was at a stage where my right leg was starting to feel uncomfortable as I think I was over-compensating for the pain in my left leg.  Stopped at 2miles, got a lift back to the house and located the source of the agony was the top of my achilles. Was limping about all day Sunday and Monday, with slight improvement today.
Attempting to self-diagnose online and it could be Achilles tendonitis.  Anyone else had an injury like this before? How long would this stop me running for? Any exercises worth doing to aid recovery?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 24, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Estimator on October 24, 2017, 03:38:53 PM
Injury Question:
I'd generally run about three times a week, not big miles at all, (35-50miles a month).  I was out for a run last Tuesday and I'd a bit of a niggle/strain in my left leg around the calf/achilles area, after the run I probably didn't stretch as well as I should have done.  It bothered me a bit for the rest of the week, but I didn't think too much about it, as I didn't think it was anything serious. So, I went out for another run on Sunday morning 
About 1mile in my calf/Achilles was starting to ache, and by the time I'd almost two miles complete, it was at a stage where my right leg was starting to feel uncomfortable as I think I was over-compensating for the pain in my left leg.  Stopped at 2miles, got a lift back to the house and located the source of the agony was the top of my achilles. Was limping about all day Sunday and Monday, with slight improvement today.
Attempting to self-diagnose online and it could be Achilles tendonitis.  Anyone else had an injury like this before? How long would this stop me running for? Any exercises worth doing to aid recovery?
Sounds like mid portional Achilles tendinopathy ....or potentially a intra substance partial tear ...Ultrasound would give definite diagnosis but rehab is similar.

I would see a chartered physiotherapist when you can.
They will go through training load and other potential causative factors ..reduced sleep, stress..ankle mobility ect..

Initial rehab is deload from running...start body weight calf isometrics . Definitely no stretching of the tendon. Physio will progress your rehab as appropriate ...if you manage it early you will be back within 1-2 weeks...ignore it, will be at you much longer. DM if any problems .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on October 24, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 24, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Who all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!

yes, im running on Sunday, did ironman Barcelona last month so decided to enter Dublin at the last minute as I thought I may as well when I have been doing the big miles. Have done a few runs oven the past few weeks to keep me going but legs are in bits some runs are grand other runs I have shin splint pains and tight hamstrings and calfs, I know I am gonna struggle round it big time but hopefully I will be ok by then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on October 24, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 24, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Who all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!

yes, im running on Sunday, did ironman Barcelona last month so decided to enter Dublin at the last minute as I thought I may as well when I have been doing the big miles. Have done a few runs oven the past few weeks to keep me going but legs are in bits some runs are grand other runs I have shin splint pains and tight hamstrings and calfs, I know I am gonna struggle round it big time but hopefully I will be ok by then.

Fair play on the Barcelona Ironman, thats a massive race! Friends did it one year and the weather was terrible, proper storm going and the swim was mad they said!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on October 25, 2017, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on October 24, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 24, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Who all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!

yes, im running on Sunday, did ironman Barcelona last month so decided to enter Dublin at the last minute as I thought I may as well when I have been doing the big miles. Have done a few runs oven the past few weeks to keep me going but legs are in bits some runs are grand other runs I have shin splint pains and tight hamstrings and calfs, I know I am gonna struggle round it big time but hopefully I will be ok by then.

Fair play on the Barcelona Ironman, thats a massive race! Friends did it one year and the weather was terrible, proper storm going and the swim was mad they said!

weather was perfect for it last month, it even started to rain half way during the run! wont complain about irish weather again!! ;D. I'm panning on driving down that morning, does anybody have any good suggestions for places to park close to the start/finish
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 25, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
QuoteWho all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!

I am, can't wait to hear the starting gun at this stage!  My second marathon and I'm much more nervous, possibly because I'm starting to remember the pain of the last 5 miles!! :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 25, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
QuoteWho all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!

I am, can't wait to hear the starting gun at this stage!  My second marathon and I'm much more nervous, possibly because I'm starting to remember the pain of the last 5 miles!! :o

So what have you done differently, training wise to help with that last 4/5 miles?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on October 25, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Good luck to all running on Sunday, I did Dublin 2 years ago and was one of the best experiences I've ever had, struggled from about mile 23 but got there in the end, would love to be going again but issues with a knee injury has put an end to my running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 25, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 24, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Who all is running Sunday...excitement building now!!
I am. Will sail close to the wind in search of a PB so will see how we go, always the danger of blowing up when pushing the limit.
Happy with the training block since June so we'll if it's been enough.

Good luck everyone running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 25, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
QuoteSo what have you done differently, training wise to help with that last 4/5 miles?

More interval stuff, more tempo stuff and an extra 20 miler.  Think the fuelling strategy is going to be key, more water and one more gel planned this time round. 

Although there is no getting away from the fact that no matter what you do, a marathon is gonna f*cking hurt!

I'm aiming for sub 3:30.  Good luck to everyone else running! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 25, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
Good luck to ye all. I'm in awe of you all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on October 25, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
I'm planning on driving down that morning, does anybody have any good suggestions for places to park close to the start/finish.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 25, 2017, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on October 25, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
I'm planning on driving down that morning, does anybody have any good suggestions for places to park close to the start/finish.
Are you going to watch ? You have to collect your number on Friday or Saturday if running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 25, 2017, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on October 25, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
I'm planning on driving down that morning, does anybody have any good suggestions for places to park close to the start/finish.
Are you going to watch ? You have to collect your number on Friday or Saturday if running.

Aye right enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The_geezer on October 26, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
going to run, getting someone to collect my pack on the Saturday. I stayed down the night before last year and didn't think there was that much benefit to it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2017, 08:42:21 PM
Good luck to everyone running the dublin marathon. Bm looking at your strava i suspect you will do well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 10:12:40 AM
Halfway mark!! Weather looks great
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
Ballinaman through halfway in 1:22
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 11:17:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
Ballinaman through halfway in 1:22



Is there a tracker link? I've couple friends running wouldn't mind tracking them
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017 (https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017)

There is also a live stream on youtube. Garyo'hanlon won the irish title -218 ish. Scullion 2nd. Just under 220.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017 (https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017)

There is also a live stream on youtube. Garyo'hanlon won the irish title -218 ish. Scullion 2nd. Just under 220.

Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017 (https://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-DUBLINM-2017)

There is also a live stream on youtube. Garyo'hanlon won the irish title -218 ish. Scullion 2nd. Just under 220.

Watching it on YouTube
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
Just back from the Phoenix Park. Great atmosphere there. Didn't see ballinaman but fairly sure I saw bingo go through.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2017, 11:53:59 AM
Ballinaman just crossed finishline on the YouTube stream.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
He ran 252. Correction to earlier... Freddy sittuk won irish championship not gary o'hanlon who was second.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2017, 12:42:20 PM
Bingo ran 2:48  some running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2017, 01:52:26 PM
Tough day at the office ! No guts no glory as they say!
Felt mighty until 13 and was sticking to pace well.
Working too hard then from 13-17 and felt like shite from there on.
4 minutes faster than last time I did Dublin in 2012....
Dublin is a tough tough course, was fairly warm today too.
Bingo clipped by me on the UCD fly over ...savage run.
Marathon is a epic race , anything can happen. Might go to Boston in 2019 but might just stick to Berlin or Amsterdam for next crack at PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2017, 02:06:15 PM
Well done bm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 02:17:41 PM
Nuts!! Was tracking two friends, and watching on YouTube! The commentator was saying nothing beats a stout after the race! So enjoy them!

Yeah BM shows you the contrasting times from Amsterdam and Dublin... the extra gradient makes some difference..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 02:17:41 PM
Nuts!! Was tracking two friends, and watching on YouTube! The commentator was saying nothing beats a stout after the race! So enjoy them!

Yeah BM shows you the contrasting times from Amsterdam and Dublin... the extra gradient makes some difference..
Definitely, it's a stinger of a course. Felt like I was in much better shape than Amsterdam too, but that's the beauty of the marathon...all bets are off!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 30, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?

I did it!

Was well chuffed cause I got a 3:53 - Was so nervous about what was ahead at the start but great to get finished. Great Event - don't think i'l do another :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 30, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?

I did it!

Was well chuffed cause I got a 3:53 - Was so nervous about what was ahead at the start but great to get finished. Great Event - don't think i'l do another :)

Brilliant time well done, my friend finished at the exact time! She'd be a runner for the Dub i think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on October 30, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Well done to everyone.

Out of curiosity, why was it on Sunday this year rather than the bank holiday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2017, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Well done to everyone.

Out of curiosity, why was it on Sunday this year rather than the bank holiday?
Was on Sunday last year also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
He ran 252. Correction to earlier... Freddy sittuk won irish championship not gary o'hanlon who was second.

Seems O'Hanlon wasn't aware that Sittuk has qualified for Ireland.  Six months residency is the requirement in athletics??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 30, 2017, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Well done to everyone.

Out of curiosity, why was it on Sunday this year rather than the bank holiday?
was on the sunday last year as well. they moved it to the sunday to get more entries from places that haven't got a bank holiday on the monday including the north.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 03:36:57 PM
Far better for it to be on a Sunday, day to recover and get the pints in
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 30, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
He ran 252. Correction to earlier... Freddy sittuk won irish championship not gary o'hanlon who was second.

Seems O'Hanlon wasn't aware that Sittuk has qualified for Ireland.  Six months residency is the requirement in athletics??
seen that, o'hanlon not happy and rightly so imo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 30, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Well done to everyone.

Out of curiosity, why was it on Sunday this year rather than the bank holiday?
Suits international athletes more I think...don't think it's a bank holiday in many other European countries.

Presume everyone saw the Scientology tent giving free "massage" in the RDS. What a shower of w**kers, shame on Dublin marathon for taking their ball of money to be allowed in.

Good article in the Irish Indo about it..

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/it-was-outrageous-and-inappropriate-church-of-scientology-offering-free-massages-at-dublin-marathon-expo-36269921.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 30, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
brillant event yesterday, the crowds in different places were unreal and they really help to give you a boost. some noise from those clapper thingys. finished in 3hours 12mins, happy with that on a tough enough course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 30, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
He ran 252. Correction to earlier... Freddy sittuk won irish championship not gary o'hanlon who was second.

Seems O'Hanlon wasn't aware that Sittuk has qualified for Ireland.  Six months residency is the requirement in athletics??
seen that, o'hanlon not happy and rightly so imo.

Just to clarify, it's 6 months residency to be eligible to compete for the National Title, I'm not sure if that necessarily means he can represent Ireland internationally
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 30, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 30, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 24, 2017, 11:45:20 AM
I have a friend who is asking me to enter the marathon as a late entry as his friend can't do it now. I haven't trained specifically for the marathon but i run quite a bit and done a 10mile lately in 74mins.

I have never done a marathon but have done a couple of half marathons and my longest ever run was about 18mile.

Is it possible or would I be mad to do it?

I did it!

Was well chuffed cause I got a 3:53 - Was so nervous about what was ahead at the start but great to get finished. Great Event - don't think i'l do another :)

Brilliant time well done, my friend finished at the exact time! She'd be a runner for the Dub i think

Thanks - I started in wave 3 so if she was in that wave i'd have been racing her to the finish line! :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 30, 2017, 05:19:47 PM
3:53 myself in wave 3...great day, unreal support!helped that one on the lads had or names on our t-shirts so felt like I was from the town!! ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2017, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 30, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
He ran 252. Correction to earlier... Freddy sittuk won irish championship not gary o'hanlon who was second.

Seems O'Hanlon wasn't aware that Sittuk has qualified for Ireland.  Six months residency is the requirement in athletics??
seen that, o'hanlon not happy and rightly so imo.

Just to clarify, it's 6 months residency to be eligible to compete for the National Title, I'm not sure if that necessarily means he can represent Ireland internationally

It was only changed recently. Wouldn't be particularly in favour of that at all.

Well done all you guys who ran.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
That 6 month thing is utter bollix.

Well done everyone, ye are savage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 30, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
3:25:56. Took 6 minutes off my previous marathon time. Delighted!!

A tough course I thought. The support was unreal, couldn't hear yourself think in some parts! Superbly organised, couldn't praise it highly enough!

I am now officially retired from marathon running.  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 30, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
3:25:56. Took 6 minutes off my previous marathon time. Delighted!!

A tough course I thought. The support was unreal, couldn't hear yourself think in some parts! Superbly organised, couldn't praise it highly enough!

I am now officially retired from marathon running.  :)

Outstanding!! I'm sure the knees are happy to hear that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 30, 2017, 09:02:42 PM
Well done No.1 "retired" you say - I think I heard that line from you before.
How did Rinty get on? Did he make it sub 3?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 31, 2017, 11:18:09 AM
No he didn't make it.  He was carrying an injury the last 4 weeks and that hampered the training.  He was right on the pace it until mile 16 but just couldn't sustain it.  He still ran 3:13 though!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 31, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
Well done all who took part. Got home in 3:57 odd myself for a pb.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
Well done heffo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 31, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: No1 on October 31, 2017, 11:18:09 AM
No he didn't make it.  He was carrying an injury the last 4 weeks and that hampered the training.  He was right on the pace it until mile 16 but just couldn't sustain it.  He still ran 3:13 though!!

I was talking to him last week and he mentioned the injury. Well done to all on the board that took part in the marathon whether successfully or not as it takes a hell of a lot of commitment just to even line up at the start. As much as I like running  I detest the marathon as much and I will never run one

What's next for you No.1?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2017, 10:03:23 PM
O'hanlon now awarded national championship as sittuk wasn't eligible after all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 05, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
New York Marathon live on Eurosport atm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Big win in the womens for shalene flanagan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
I see the Garmin Forerunner 235 is £165 (€185) on Amazon today.
Great price for a great watch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on November 24, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
I see the Garmin Forerunner 235 is £165 (€185) on Amazon today.
Great price for a great watch.

Was coming on to ask about that watch - saw that on amazon.

Do you know if you can control amazon music with it? Have wanted something for running that looks decent enough as well and this seems to fit the bill
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 24, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
I see the Garmin Forerunner 235 is £165 (€185) on Amazon today.
Great price for a great watch.

Was coming on to ask about that watch - saw that on amazon.

Do you know if you can control amazon music with it? Have wanted something for running that looks decent enough as well and this seems to fit the bill
Don't know that sorry. I would hardly ever listen to music when running myself apart when on treadmill.

I bought the 235 myself today. Have had a 225 for a few years so this is a nice upgrade.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on November 24, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 24, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 24, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
I see the Garmin Forerunner 235 is £165 (€185) on Amazon today.
Great price for a great watch.

Was coming on to ask about that watch - saw that on amazon.

Do you know if you can control amazon music with it? Have wanted something for running that looks decent enough as well and this seems to fit the bill
Don't know that sorry. I would hardly ever listen to music when running myself apart when on treadmill.

I bought the 235 myself today. Have had a 225 for a few years so this is a nice upgrade.

Cheers. Bought it myself there too
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?

Who is organising that? Wouldn't mind doing it, also looked at the night races, one there too...need something to get back at it. Have never done the race but would have done plenty of running round Tollymore (and Castlewellan) park, its trail running really, although I have never worn anything other than my standard trainers a pair of trail trainers (soloman or the likes) would probably help. Depending on conditions it can get quite slippy, took a tumble myself there a few months ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?

Who is organising that? Wouldn't mind doing it, also looked at the night races, one there too...need something to get back at it. Have never done the race but would have done plenty of running round Tollymore (and Castlewellan) park, its trail running really, although I have never worn anything other than my standard trainers a pair of trail trainers (soloman or the likes) would probably help. Depending on conditions it can get quite slippy, took a tumble myself there a few months ago.

cheers, I will probably just use my ordinary runners - reebok nanos - given the proximity to Christmas

http://www.born2runevents.com/races.php?s=tollymore
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on December 13, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?

Who is organising that? Wouldn't mind doing it, also looked at the night races, one there too...need something to get back at it. Have never done the race but would have done plenty of running round Tollymore (and Castlewellan) park, its trail running really, although I have never worn anything other than my standard trainers a pair of trail trainers (soloman or the likes) would probably help. Depending on conditions it can get quite slippy, took a tumble myself there a few months ago.

cheers, I will probably just use my ordinary runners - reebok nanos - given the proximity to Christmas

http://www.born2runevents.com/races.php?s=tollymore

Assuming it will mostly be around the black path of tollymore? If so i ran it a few years ago. Just ordinary runners will do fine.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on December 13, 2017, 02:53:04 PM
I ran a down hill marathon on Saturday in Tucson Arizona. Im a very average runner and finished 3 42. If some of the good runners on here wanted a personal best I would highly recommend this run. Beautiful weather and lovely scenery.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 13, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?

Who is organising that? Wouldn't mind doing it, also looked at the night races, one there too...need something to get back at it. Have never done the race but would have done plenty of running round Tollymore (and Castlewellan) park, its trail running really, although I have never worn anything other than my standard trainers a pair of trail trainers (soloman or the likes) would probably help. Depending on conditions it can get quite slippy, took a tumble myself there a few months ago.

cheers, I will probably just use my ordinary runners - reebok nanos - given the proximity to Christmas

http://www.born2runevents.com/races.php?s=tollymore

Assuming it will mostly be around the black path of tollymore? If so i ran it a few years ago. Just ordinary runners will do fine.

it follows the forest path so Im assuming so
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 13, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on December 13, 2017, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 13, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Is anyone doing Tollymore 10K at the start of Jan? Or has anyone done it in the past? What type of trainers would be best?

Who is organising that? Wouldn't mind doing it, also looked at the night races, one there too...need something to get back at it. Have never done the race but would have done plenty of running round Tollymore (and Castlewellan) park, its trail running really, although I have never worn anything other than my standard trainers a pair of trail trainers (soloman or the likes) would probably help. Depending on conditions it can get quite slippy, took a tumble myself there a few months ago.

cheers, I will probably just use my ordinary runners - reebok nanos - given the proximity to Christmas

http://www.born2runevents.com/races.php?s=tollymore

Assuming it will mostly be around the black path of tollymore? If so i ran it a few years ago. Just ordinary runners will do fine.

it follows the forest path so Im assuming so

Not quite the black path - mostly stays the car-park side of the river looking at the route, which is good in that it leaves out the climb half way round the black path, there is a stretch up to the exit gate that will be guttery but at least wont be slippy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2017, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on December 13, 2017, 02:53:04 PM
I ran a down hill marathon on Saturday in Tucson Arizona. Im a very average runner and finished 3 42. If some of the good runners on here wanted a personal best I would highly recommend this run. Beautiful weather and lovely scenery.

Downhill! What time did the winner post?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on December 13, 2017, 02:53:04 PM
I ran a down hill marathon on Saturday in Tucson Arizona. Im a very average runner and finished 3 42. If some of the good runners on here wanted a personal best I would highly recommend this run. Beautiful weather and lovely scenery.
Could you actually count it as a PB though?
If you were trying to qualify for Boston say for example (won't ever matter to me!) I doubt you could you use a downhill Marathon to get a qualifying time. I dunno I'm just asking btw.
Have you done a normal Marathon?  Just curious as to your PB compared to the downhill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on December 13, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
The winner came in at 2 30 and yes it is a Boston qualifier. Though it is a small marathon with only roughly 600 participants running the full. I ran 12 marathons but my last one was four years ago. My times usually were 350 to 410 range depending on the course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on December 13, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Downhill? How much downhill does it involve? Are you putting pressure on knees etc.... slowing yourself down?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on December 13, 2017, 05:35:21 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/Tucson-Marathon-Map-2_zps01el84bo.jpg)

No real stress on knees at all surprisingly. Id much pre fare it to be honest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on January 07, 2018, 08:37:11 AM
Tollymore 10k was fun yesterday. Gosford in a fortnight so I may do that also
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on January 07, 2018, 08:38:47 PM
Out of interest Tonto, what was the entry fee for Tollymore?

I did the Castlewellan Christmas Cracker organised by Newcastle AC last Saturday. Holy f**k, toughest race I've ever done. Done a marathon and a sprint triathlon last year and I'd rather do either again instead of that. Brutal!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on January 07, 2018, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: No1 on January 07, 2018, 08:38:47 PM
Out of interest Tonto, what was the entry fee for Tollymore?

I did the Castlewellan Christmas Cracker organised by Newcastle AC last Saturday. Holy f**k, toughest race I've ever done. Done a marathon and a sprint triathlon last year and I'd rather do either again instead of that. Brutal!!!
agree 100%, didnt run the christmas cracker this year but have run it in previous years and its tough going. According to a few mates that done it this year was toughest yet. Running up those fields and through muck and gutters doesnt really interest me. It was more for the fell runners this year, i'd rather do a road run any day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2018, 10:20:53 PM
Have heard similar stories about the cracker this year. Looked rough!

Tollymore was born2run? I know people who rave about them but think they tend to be a bit dear...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on January 07, 2018, 11:36:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2018, 10:20:53 PM
Have heard similar stories about the cracker this year. Looked rough!

Tollymore was born2run? I know people who rave about them but think they tend to be a bit dear...

yeah rip off, 20 quid to run on a beach for eg, and any courses i did with them were either short or long so times were always off

avoid
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on January 08, 2018, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: No1 on January 07, 2018, 08:38:47 PM
Out of interest Tonto, what was the entry fee for Tollymore?

I did the Castlewellan Christmas Cracker organised by Newcastle AC last Saturday. Holy f**k, toughest race I've ever done. Done a marathon and a sprint triathlon last year and I'd rather do either again instead of that. Brutal!!!

I paid £16 and that was the early bird offer. I think they are £20 otherwise
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on January 08, 2018, 11:16:41 AM
Looking into more trail runs. Has anyone done the Mourne Way 10k/half/marathon before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 09, 2018, 01:34:33 PM
Folks - anyone recommend somewhere in Galway that's lit and safe for running in the evening? Was thinking the Prom in Salthill but I stay in Ballybrit so hoped for something closer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 12, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
How far are you looking to go?

I used to live in Oranmore, drive into GMIT and head for town from there, in along the quays
Round the racetrack is the other option
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 17, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
Cheers. Found a nice short loop of 4k which has got me started but the idea of parking at GMIT and running into town along the quays is an excellent one. Used to run from near the G Hotel out to the start of the prom back in the summer. Racecourse will be ideal in the brighter evenings as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on January 17, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
Looking to get into running seriously this year. I would do a bit of recreational running to keep the weight off (10k a couple of times a week) and have done a couple of longer runs on Sunday in the last month or so. I managed them better than I thought so I would like to keep this up with the aim of doing a marathon (either Belfast or Dublin). Trying to set a target goal for the marathon and have plugged my recent runs into a marathon pace calculator on line

https://www.runnersworld.co.uk/rws-training-pace-calculator

Anybody any experience of using these to set a training plan or should I just take a "off the shelf" plan you get on the marathon sites? I would be reasonably fit an looking to do the marathon in under 3 1/2 hours.

Also looking some advice as to the best shoes to buy. I ve been running in a pair of cheap Nikes but been told that if I am going to start to increase teh distances I shoudl upgrade. Any advice welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
When i was looking for trainers for the Marathon, I went to the running shop in Belfast, the staff are all runners and the sales person I got had done a few marathons and knew his trainers

I did the gait test there and described what I had been using for years (Asics) and we tried a few different trainers, ended up going for the Hoka range, plenty of support and fitted well, cost about £130 or so but they guy said they would be great for a marathon distance so I gave them a whirl, first few runs no issues (I expected there to be some discomfort, but no) and I only used them for runs over 10 miles or so..

As for the mile calculator, looked at it at the start and it gave me hope of finishing in around 3.30, race day was totaly different, was another 29 minutes on that... so if you can stick to a plan a hundred percent then you'll get close to that goal of under 3.30 but I'd say add a few minutes on to the projected time as it doesnt take into consideration, the elements of the day, the hills and how you are feeling!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 17, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Anyone ever do the Bray cliff trail 10k? It's on March 31st.....am thinking of doing it. I'd imagine it might be a nice run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on January 17, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
When i was looking for trainers for the Marathon, I went to the running shop in Belfast, the staff are all runners and the sales person I got had done a few marathons and knew his trainers

I did the gait test there and described what I had been using for years (Asics) and we tried a few different trainers, ended up going for the Hoka range, plenty of support and fitted well, cost about £130 or so but they guy said they would be great for a marathon distance so I gave them a whirl, first few runs no issues (I expected there to be some discomfort, but no) and I only used them for runs over 10 miles or so..

As for the mile calculator, looked at it at the start and it gave me hope of finishing in around 3.30, race day was totaly different, was another 29 minutes on that... so if you can stick to a plan a hundred percent then you'll get close to that goal of under 3.30 but I'd say add a few minutes on to the projected time as it doesnt take into consideration, the elements of the day, the hills and how you are feeling!

Cheers MR, might take a run into that shop as I have had problems in the past with achilles problems when playing on hard pitches so  definitely do not want to start picking up niggly  injuries.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on January 17, 2018, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: TabClear on January 17, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
Looking to get into running seriously this year. I would do a bit of recreational running to keep the weight off (10k a couple of times a week) and have done a couple of longer runs on Sunday in the last month or so. I managed them better than I thought so I would like to keep this up with the aim of doing a marathon (either Belfast or Dublin). Trying to set a target goal for the marathon and have plugged my recent runs into a marathon pace calculator on line

https://www.runnersworld.co.uk/rws-training-pace-calculator

Anybody any experience of using these to set a training plan or should I just take a "off the shelf" plan you get on the marathon sites? I would be reasonably fit an looking to do the marathon in under 3 1/2 hours.

Also looking some advice as to the best shoes to buy. I ve been running in a pair of cheap Nikes but been told that if I am going to start to increase teh distances I shoudl upgrade. Any advice welcome.

TabClear, I would say take your time and forget about Belfast as its too soon and concentrate on Dublin in October. As for a time, for a first marathon don't be worrying about setting goals, just try and get out consistently at the minute and get your legs used to running. There are loads of marathon training plans that last 18, 16, 14 or 12 weeks that will get you ready for a marathon. Better still, if you have a local running club, join them. The knowledge and experience you'll get from a club can't be matched. For trainers head to a specialised running shop, they can check your gait for ideal trainers. You don't have to buy the latest model shoes, last years models do the same job and are usually a lot cheaper. A running watch is a great tool for measuring pace and distance, best for those is Garmin. Main thing, get out and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 17, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
Looking to get into running seriously this year. I would do a bit of recreational running to keep the weight off (10k a couple of times a week) and have done a couple of longer runs on Sunday in the last month or so. I managed them better than I thought so I would like to keep this up with the aim of doing a marathon (either Belfast or Dublin). Trying to set a target goal for the marathon and have plugged my recent runs into a marathon pace calculator on line

https://www.runnersworld.co.uk/rws-training-pace-calculator

Anybody any experience of using these to set a training plan or should I just take a "off the shelf" plan you get on the marathon sites? I would be reasonably fit an looking to do the marathon in under 3 1/2 hours.

Also looking some advice as to the best shoes to buy. I ve been running in a pair of cheap Nikes but been told that if I am going to start to increase teh distances I shoudl upgrade. Any advice welcome.
Good man on taking up the running you won't regret it.

Expensive doesn't always mean the runners will suit you. I was only talking to ballinaman about this lately. I bought an expensive pair during the summer. Soon after I started getting pains in my legs.

Long story short I switched my runners to a cheap pair of New Balance I bought in the outlet centre in Kildare. Think they cost €50 and I haven't had any pains since. The other runners were Hoka and they were €150.

I'm doing Dublin Marathon myself this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 12:27:56 PM
Thats the thing about trainers, there is no set style that will suit everyone.. thats why the gait treadmill is helpful provided the person doing it knows what they are talking about
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2018, 10:22:06 AM
Heading to Waterford this weekend to watch my youngest running for the school at the Irish Cross country finals.

Anyone got anybody involved in this, and what would the standard be like?

The Ulsters was held at Mallusk playing fields a few weeks ago with over a 100 runners taking part and my daughter got in as part of a qualification with the school team, she managed 25th with the 2 other girls placing 2nd and 15th, you need 3 from a school to finish in the top 30 to have a team entered..

The top five ran really good times and the boys race was very competitive..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 06, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Doing the Carlingford Half marathon this weekend.  Was due to be last weekend but got postponed on account of the weather.

Has anyone ever done it before ? any advice would be appreciated.  Understand that it's a fairly flat route.

I've no big target in mind, just signed up to try and shift a bit of Christmas timber and haven't done as many practice runs as i would have liked but will give it a go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on March 06, 2018, 11:18:12 AM
Have entered the Mourne Way Half Marathon. Has anyone ever done it before and have advice to offer regarding training and footwear? Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on March 06, 2018, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 17, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Anyone ever do the Bray cliff trail 10k? It's on March 31st.....am thinking of doing it. I'd imagine it might be a nice run?

It's a nice run and the first 2k or so is all uphill.

The course is very narrow though once you get onto the cliff run itself so if you're looking to go anyway fast, get out in front of the main group.

Last 1.5/2kish is on the beach and back up the promenade.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 06, 2018, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on March 06, 2018, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 17, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Anyone ever do the Bray cliff trail 10k? It's on March 31st.....am thinking of doing it. I'd imagine it might be a nice run?

It's a nice run and the first 2k or so is all uphill.

The course is very narrow though once you get onto the cliff run itself so if you're looking to go anyway fast, get out in front of the main group.

Last 1.5/2kish is on the beach and back up the promenade.

Thanks Heffo. Unfortunately after I posted this I realised I wouldn't be able to do it this year....maybe next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 06, 2018, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on March 06, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Doing the Carlingford Half marathon this weekend.  Was due to be last weekend but got postponed on account of the weather.

Has anyone ever done it before ? any advice would be appreciated.  Understand that it's a fairly flat route.

I've no big target in mind, just signed up to try and shift a bit of Christmas timber and haven't done as many practice runs as i would have liked but will give it a go.

I did Carlingford couple of years ago and it's an enjoyable event. Undulating is the word I think; lots of small hills, no really tough climbs and a nice run along the shore with great views of the Mournes towards the end. They provide tea and sarneys in the Four Seasons hotel afterwards. They could have provided more water points but maybe that's been addressed. They also donated the funds to worthy projects in North Louth.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 07, 2018, 11:23:28 AM
Quote from: Dubh driocht on March 06, 2018, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on March 06, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Doing the Carlingford Half marathon this weekend.  Was due to be last weekend but got postponed on account of the weather.

Has anyone ever done it before ? any advice would be appreciated.  Understand that it's a fairly flat route.

I've no big target in mind, just signed up to try and shift a bit of Christmas timber and haven't done as many practice runs as i would have liked but will give it a go.

I did Carlingford couple of years ago and it's an enjoyable event. Undulating is the word I think; lots of small hills, no really tough climbs and a nice run along the shore with great views of the Mournes towards the end. They provide tea and sarneys in the Four Seasons hotel afterwards. They could have provided more water points but maybe that's been addressed. They also donated the funds to worthy projects in North Louth.

Cheers for that Dubh, tea and sarneys for starters followed by a few pints of guinness will do me  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Any trainer recommendations for a newbie runner to help with a dicky knee? Only started about a month and a half ago but have had to ease off the last week and a bit because my right knee has been aching.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
Do you know what is up with it? Is it itb?

Stretching / strengthening more important than trainers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on March 07, 2018, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Any trainer recommendations for a newbie runner to help with a dicky knee? Only started about a month and a half ago but have had to ease off the last week and a bit because my right knee has been aching.

You could get gait analysis done but that sounds like more a physio issue
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
Do you know what is up with it? Is it itb?

Stretching / strengthening more important than trainers.

Just a pain round to the side of the knee that came on gradually but when it kicked in it was very sore, limped home one of the times!

Any links or advice re: stretching etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
Pain on the outside can be itb which while it feels like the knee it actually stems from elsewhere and manifests itself in the knee. That is if it is the outside.

Stretch round your glutes , hip flexors and glute med as they tend to cause this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBHYzOxGRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBHYzOxGRE)

Haven't time now but will try and dig out some stretches later


Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2018, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
Do you know what is up with it? Is it itb?

Stretching / strengthening more important than trainers.

Just a pain round to the side of the knee that came on gradually but when it kicked in it was very sore, limped home one of the times!

Any links or advice re: stretching etc?

There are one or two on here that are brilliant for helping out on the medical side of things and only too willing to give you advice

The one thing you have mentioned was you've just started taking running up, you probably have just over done it lately, rest and training and stretch, see how it goes and if it continues go get medical advice
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
Pain on the outside can be itb which while it feels like the knee it actually stems from elsewhere and manifests itself in the knee. That is if it is the outside.

Stretch round your glutes , hip flexors and glute med as they tend to cause this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBHYzOxGRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBHYzOxGRE)

Haven't time now but will try and dig out some stretches later

Cheers!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2018, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
Do you know what is up with it? Is it itb?

Stretching / strengthening more important than trainers.

Just a pain round to the side of the knee that came on gradually but when it kicked in it was very sore, limped home one of the times!

Any links or advice re: stretching etc?

There are one or two on here that are brilliant for helping out on the medical side of things and only too willing to give you advice

The one thing you have mentioned was you've just started taking running up, you probably have just over done it lately, rest and training and stretch, see how it goes and if it continues go get medical advice

Yeah I was going out every morning there for a couple weeks before the pain came so this is probably true. Need to ease off for a while. Though then I feel like I am doing nothing now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2018, 04:25:04 PM
Runners guilt!!!!

Yeah I felt that a lot after the marathon when down with my pup at the beach, as there is a great run along the shore and lots of runners out on it! rest up and see how it goes...

A mate of mine was compalining about chest pains before, was really worried went to doctors full on tests and everything was fine.. at the end of it all the doctor asked him had he been doing anything differently lately, he thought about it and he was moving furniture to a friends house, lifting beds, chair settee's and so on but didnt put 2 and 2 together! wouldnt be one for doing weights so it shocked his body! Always best to get checked though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 07, 2018, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
Yeah I was going out every morning there for a couple weeks before the pain came so this is probably true. Need to ease off for a while. Though then I feel like I am doing nothing now!
Are you completely new to running or getting back into it?
Maybe you should try something like couch to 5k which eases you into it rather than going gung ho with no real plan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2018, 05:00:06 PM
Also running on road all time can cause issues. Use a track or trail also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
Not track - trail. (Assuming you mean running track?)

Ramp up your running gradually to condition your body too. Rule is ten percent per week. None to loads equals sure injury.

I would also suggest if you just started out run at a comfortable pace for you. I.e the tank should not be empty. Makes it much easier to build up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on March 08, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 07, 2018, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 07, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
Yeah I was going out every morning there for a couple weeks before the pain came so this is probably true. Need to ease off for a while. Though then I feel like I am doing nothing now!
Are you completely new to running or getting back into it?
Maybe you should try something like couch to 5k which eases you into it rather than going gung ho with no real plan.

Completely new. Basically going from no exercise for the last few years into it.

I did that couch to 5k a few years back and found it very slow. I have already been able to run 5k round the lakes near me, though as someone else said at the end the tank was empty.

I will look up running trails nearby to see do they ease up. Went out for a walk this morning, felt ok so did a small bit of running. Was grand.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
What sort of miles are people covering. I just started running this year after retiring from the football at the end of 2016. So did nothing at all in 2017 but started running twice a week now. Am trying to follow a plan but it's seems to be very low miles  3 milers, 5K interval running, hill sprints etc. But it doesn't seem to ramp up at all. I've been trying to ensure I'm taking rest days as well but kinda feel I'm not pushing on anymore. I ideally would like to do a 10 miler or half marathon. Was signed up for the Bundoran 10 Mile but had to withdraw due to a clash with something else. I'm running 10K fairly easily now albeit not in fantastic times (Around 46 Mins).

So was just wondering if I should be pushing up on the miles myself? What would your standard weeks running look like?   
 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on March 08, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
Not track - trail. (Assuming you mean running track?)

Ramp up your running gradually to condition your body too. Rule is ten percent per week. None to loads equals sure injury.

I would also suggest if you just started out run at a comfortable pace for you. I.e the tank should not be empty. Makes it much easier to build up.

Would you say running on a track is a bad idea or have I taken this up wrong? Was going to do a bit of trsck running as I figured it would be softer than the roads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on March 08, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
What sort of miles are people covering. I just started running this year after retiring from the football at the end of 2016. So did nothing at all in 2017 but started running twice a week now. Am trying to follow a plan but it's seems to be very low miles  3 milers, 5K interval running, hill sprints etc. But it doesn't seem to ramp up at all. I've been trying to ensure I'm taking rest days as well but kinda feel I'm not pushing on anymore. I ideally would like to do a 10 miler or half marathon. Was signed up for the Bundoran 10 Mile but had to withdraw due to a clash with something else. I'm running 10K fairly easily now albeit not in fantastic times (Around 46 Mins).

So was just wondering if I should be pushing up on the miles myself? What would your standard weeks running look like?   


Sort of in the same place as yourself. Out twice a week doing 3-4 miles but doing 2 nites in the gym. I have a couple of 5 mile runs coming up but its taking time to increase the pace. Have got to a 81/2 min mile avg would like to get to an 8. Have been hit with a clod lately and missed a whole week out. I know about this week, its like i never went to the gym or ran in my life.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 08, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
What sort of miles are people covering. I just started running this year after retiring from the football at the end of 2016. So did nothing at all in 2017 but started running twice a week now. Am trying to follow a plan but it's seems to be very low miles  3 milers, 5K interval running, hill sprints etc. But it doesn't seem to ramp up at all. I've been trying to ensure I'm taking rest days as well but kinda feel I'm not pushing on anymore. I ideally would like to do a 10 miler or half marathon. Was signed up for the Bundoran 10 Mile but had to withdraw due to a clash with something else. I'm running 10K fairly easily now albeit not in fantastic times (Around 46 Mins).

So was just wondering if I should be pushing up on the miles myself? What would your standard weeks running look like?   


Sort of in the same place as yourself. Out twice a week doing 3-4 miles but doing 2 nites in the gym. I have a couple of 5 mile runs coming up but its taking time to increase the pace. Have got to a 81/2 min mile avg would like to get to an 8. Have been hit with a clod lately and missed a whole week out. I know about this week, its like i never went to the gym or ran in my life.

I'm just worried that I'm not progressing. The thing I find is that I'm doing threadmill running in the evenings as it's usually after 8pm when I run and being stuck out in the country it's just easier to jump on the thread mill than drive into town. So I like being able to do the short runs during the week as longer runs on the threadmill would do your head in. Then I usually try and go out and do the odd 10K at the weekend. But the recovery times I'm getting for doing a 10K seems to be about 3-4 days. Is that right? I've been at pains not to overdo it as I hate getting an injury and being laid up. But it means that I only really get 2-3 runs in a week. Then I hear about others who are running 4-5 times a week and I'm thinking should I just do the same?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on March 08, 2018, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 08, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
What sort of miles are people covering. I just started running this year after retiring from the football at the end of 2016. So did nothing at all in 2017 but started running twice a week now. Am trying to follow a plan but it's seems to be very low miles  3 milers, 5K interval running, hill sprints etc. But it doesn't seem to ramp up at all. I've been trying to ensure I'm taking rest days as well but kinda feel I'm not pushing on anymore. I ideally would like to do a 10 miler or half marathon. Was signed up for the Bundoran 10 Mile but had to withdraw due to a clash with something else. I'm running 10K fairly easily now albeit not in fantastic times (Around 46 Mins).

So was just wondering if I should be pushing up on the miles myself? What would your standard weeks running look like?   


Sort of in the same place as yourself. Out twice a week doing 3-4 miles but doing 2 nites in the gym. I have a couple of 5 mile runs coming up but its taking time to increase the pace. Have got to a 81/2 min mile avg would like to get to an 8. Have been hit with a clod lately and missed a whole week out. I know about this week, its like i never went to the gym or ran in my life.

I'm just worried that I'm not progressing. The thing I find is that I'm doing threadmill running in the evenings as it's usually after 8pm when I run and being stuck out in the country it's just easier to jump on the thread mill than drive into town. So I like being able to do the short runs during the week as longer runs on the threadmill would do your head in. Then I usually try and go out and do the odd 10K at the weekend. But the recovery times I'm getting for doing a 10K seems to be about 3-4 days. Is that right? I've been at pains not to overdo it as I hate getting an injury and being laid up. But it means that I only really get 2-3 runs in a week. Then I hear about others who are running 4-5 times a week and I'm thinking should I just do the same?


I know myself i am going to start doing short sprints during the runs to build up the speed
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
What sort of miles are people covering. I just started running this year after retiring from the football at the end of 2016. So did nothing at all in 2017 but started running twice a week now. Am trying to follow a plan but it's seems to be very low miles  3 milers, 5K interval running, hill sprints etc. But it doesn't seem to ramp up at all. I've been trying to ensure I'm taking rest days as well but kinda feel I'm not pushing on anymore. I ideally would like to do a 10 miler or half marathon. Was signed up for the Bundoran 10 Mile but had to withdraw due to a clash with something else. I'm running 10K fairly easily now albeit not in fantastic times (Around 46 Mins).

So was just wondering if I should be pushing up on the miles myself? What would your standard weeks running look like?   

I'm trying to average about 25 miles a week until June when Marathon training starts. Most of it slow and easy with the odd interval or tempo run.
Mix of treadmill and outside running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
Do you just do 3 x 8 milers or 4 x 6 miles, or 5 x 5miles?

I seem to struggle to get it all fitted in in a week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
Do you just do 3 x 8 milers or 4 x 6 miles, or 5 x 5miles?

I seem to struggle to get it all fitted in in a week.
It be a complete mix if I'm honest. Might do 3 miles one day and 10 miles the next. I've no real set plan at the moment. I get out whenever I can and I have running gear in the car all the time so I sometimes go for a run at lunchtime or on the way home from work. Have a treadmill at home also so log a good few miles on that. I actually don't mind running on a treadmill at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on March 08, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
Not track - trail. (Assuming you mean running track?)

Ramp up your running gradually to condition your body too. Rule is ten percent per week. None to loads equals sure injury.

I would also suggest if you just started out run at a comfortable pace for you. I.e the tank should not be empty. Makes it much easier to build up.

Would you say running on a track is a bad idea or have I taken this up wrong? Was going to do a bit of trsck running as I figured it would be softer than the roads.

For focused training - e.g. reps - good for once a week. You should do more training off than on it.

Quite repetitive and one sided but sparingly training on track a useful tool for getting quicker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on March 09, 2018, 08:28:49 AM
Tried to search for running 'trails' with not much joy. Can anyone tell me if there are any round North Armagh direction?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 09, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
Trueblue - there is loads of information out there on running training. One I think that had a lot of free content and made sense was http://www.halhigdon.com/ (http://www.halhigdon.com/) . You're possibly just going out and running at the same pace all the time and that will end up with you wearing down and not improving (after some initial gains). To really improve you need to mix up your runs/paces and also mix in some cross training. I'm at the lower end of the running levels and I know if I do a flat out/as fast as I can long run it does take 3/4 days before it's out of my legs. Others might advise on how to recover quicker than that but the key is to minimise the times you're actually "racing".

Hope I've explained it but maybe I haven't. There's plenty of information out there though to assist. Having a target to work towards is always good.....what do you want to achieve?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 09:11:22 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 09, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
Trueblue - there is loads of information out there on running training. One I think that had a lot of free content and made sense was http://www.halhigdon.com/ (http://www.halhigdon.com/) . You're possibly just going out and running at the same pace all the time and that will end up with you wearing down and not improving (after some initial gains). To really improve you need to mix up your runs/paces and also mix in some cross training. I'm at the lower end of the running levels and I know if I do a flat out/as fast as I can long run it does take 3/4 days before it's out of my legs. Others might advise on how to recover quicker than that but the key is to minimise the times you're actually "racing".

Hope I've explained it but maybe I haven't. There's plenty of information out there though to assist. Having a target to work towards is always good.....what do you want to achieve?

Cheers MS. The problem is nearly that there's too much info out there. It's hard work trying to pick a training plan as there's so many websites and blogs. It's nearly data overload.

So rather than doing just normal runs as quick as I can, what the options,

Intervals (I'm trying to do one a week of these. .8K spring and .2 K walk, no idea if that's right. Usually do x 4)
Hill sprints (Haven't really got into these yet but plan to)
Then I'm stumped?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 09, 2018, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 09:11:22 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 09, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
Trueblue - there is loads of information out there on running training. One I think that had a lot of free content and made sense was http://www.halhigdon.com/ (http://www.halhigdon.com/) . You're possibly just going out and running at the same pace all the time and that will end up with you wearing down and not improving (after some initial gains). To really improve you need to mix up your runs/paces and also mix in some cross training. I'm at the lower end of the running levels and I know if I do a flat out/as fast as I can long run it does take 3/4 days before it's out of my legs. Others might advise on how to recover quicker than that but the key is to minimise the times you're actually "racing".

Hope I've explained it but maybe I haven't. There's plenty of information out there though to assist. Having a target to work towards is always good.....what do you want to achieve?

Cheers MS. The problem is nearly that there's too much info out there. It's hard work trying to pick a training plan as there's so many websites and blogs. It's nearly data overload.

So rather than doing just normal runs as quick as I can, what the options,

Intervals (I'm trying to do one a week of these. .8K spring and .2 K walk, no idea if that's right. Usually do x 4)
Hill sprints (Haven't really got into these yet but plan to)
Then I'm stumped?

Tempo runs, Long slow runs, easy pace.......most of your runs should be done at a pace where you could hold a conversation. As for tempo runs - idea is you start off slowly and build up to a strongly paced middle portion and then ease off again for the last piece. One time I was specifically training to improve my 5k time I'd do 1k easy, 3k at my desired 5k pace and 1k easy. It really improved me and eventually I was able to maintain the requisite pace for 5k and beat my time.

As I say I'm a bit of an amateur so some of the other lads here might give you a better steer but I'd say - just find a plan that makes sense and seems doable and stick to it for a while. See how you go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 09, 2018, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on March 09, 2018, 08:28:49 AM
Tried to search for running 'trails' with not much joy. Can anyone tell me if there are any round North Armagh direction?

I'd say Gosford Park would have plenty of paths in that area. Any forest park would have plenty, I would do a lot in Castlewellan forest park and Tollymore, do a good bit of it at night with a head torch - hard to beat it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!

What's the story with vo2?  My watch measures this as well but don't really know what I'm meant to be looking at. I've just about got the hang of the heart monitor  ???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 09, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!

What's the story with vo2?  My watch measures this as well but don't really know what I'm meant to be looking at. I've just about got the hang of the heart monitor  ???
My watch measures it also. Don't know how accurate it is or what it really means.
Mine says vo2 max of 51 at the moment.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 09, 2018, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!
Any opinions on the Hansons marathon method ballinaman?
Bought the book off Amazon last week and have been reading through it. Was gonna follow it for Dublin Marathon this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 01:27:47 PM
Exactly bm... Only 20 odd percent should be high quality. The vo2 stuff you mention is interesting.

A good barometer of current fitness / vo2 max etc would be to blast a parkrun.

Running isn't just a case of go out and run. You can do it like that but if you put a bit of structure in place your fitness and running paces can improve dramatically.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 09, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!

What's the story with vo2?  My watch measures this as well but don't really know what I'm meant to be looking at. I've just about got the hang of the heart monitor  ???
My watch measures it also. Don't know how accurate it is or what it really means.
Mine says vo2 max of 51 at the moment.

Mine's at 49. No idea if that good, bad or normal. Might do a quick google tonight to see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 10, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 09, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 09, 2018, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2018, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Variations of training runs from my experience which may or may not help...

- hill reps - intent is to build leg strength and form. Find a reasonably steep hill and do minute reps. Start with 4 or 6 and progress it with 2 extra every other week up until about say 12. This is strength building so early in regime. N.b. The focus is form here not how fast you do them. Intent is last same speed as first.
- Fartlek- this is about pick ups over shortish periods on runs. So for example i do these in a forest where there is a two mile loop with about 5 hills. I pick up on the hills.
- intervals - there are many variations on these. My recommendation would be do a block of hill reps prior to these. They are not sprints so do at a controlled pace. e.g. We used to do 400s at 5k pace off 2 minutes so for example at the time i did 90 second 400s with 30 second rest. Start at about 6 and build up by 2 every other week up until about 12.
- tempo run - best form of training. 20 minutes "comfortably hard" so you should be on the edge of breathlessness but not quite there. If you do these with a bit of discipline you will really improve.
- long run. A must. You should run for over an hour once a week. Comfortable pace.
- recovery run. If you do back to back days then do one at a very comfortable pace.

There are variations on intervals duration wise etc but the above is how i started. Few weeks fartlek on tuesday, tempo on thursday long run sunday. Then tuesday moved to hill reps then itmoved to 400s. At the end of that you will be fit. Also bed hills into runs as they are massively helpful.

Focused training can improve you massively.
Solid advice.

The Jack Daniels running formula book is great.

A common mistake made is doing too large of a % of your weekly mileage at high intensity pace. Often see lads going out doing say,10x400m reps while only having a total volume of 25-30 miles per week. It's not really specific and people just pluck 10 reps out of nowhere. 20% of weekly mileage to be up around v02 max or above aerobic threshold is a better guide, the jack Daniels book has tables so you can gauge your v02 max based on a recent race rather than getting lab testing done. You can hit specific times for interval, tempo and long runs to give you a better training stimulus.
I've been tipping away since January doing this method so we'll see if any 10k or parkrun pbs fall this month!

What's the story with vo2?  My watch measures this as well but don't really know what I'm meant to be looking at. I've just about got the hang of the heart monitor  ???
My watch measures it also. Don't know how accurate it is or what it really means.
Mine says vo2 max of 51 at the moment.

Mine's at 49. No idea if that good, bad or normal. Might do a quick google tonight to see.
Wouldn't get too hung up on v02 max scores as you have have a low v02 max but have great running economy which translates into good times. I had v02 lab test done in 2012 and again in 2015 as a guinea pig for research when I was doing masters...horrible test with all the gear on.

Haven't read that book laoislad but the Jack Daniels book is well worth a look, about 20 quid on amazon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
Only ever had the lactate tests done. Yeah wouldn't worry too much about vo2 max.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2018, 11:45:38 AM
That's one way to finish a Marathon..get on a bus!

https://youtu.be/x7aJJ2xUlgQ
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on March 23, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?

How many miles a week did you/are you averaging? How many times a week are you training?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on March 23, 2018, 02:45:47 PM
Any of you following this lad on facebook?

https://eoinkeith.wordpress.com/ (https://eoinkeith.wordpress.com/)

He is competing in the Barkley marathons this weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Ty4Sam on March 23, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?

How many miles a week did you/are you averaging? How many times a week are you training?

I'm doing about 15 mile per week. Training about 3 -4 times

Gym/Swim maybe once a week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K

Thanks can you advise what type - weight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 23, 2018, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Ty4Sam on March 23, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?

How many miles a week did you/are you averaging? How many times a week are you training?

I'm doing about 15 mile per week. Training about 3 -4 times

Gym/Swim maybe once a week.
I doubt 15 miles a week is enough. Ballinaman or imtommygun could probably advise better but I would think you need a higher weekly milage than that. Also not just ve doing intervals. Do longer slower runs and tempo runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 03:37:30 PM
Thanks for the advice. For example this is my week this week

M: Nothing
T: intervals - 2m
W: Run - 6m (fast)
T: Run - 7m (medium)
F: intervals - 2m
S: park run - 3m (Want to see where time is at as haven't done one in a while)
S: nothing

So would be up to 20 this week - what should i aim for?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on March 23, 2018, 05:04:25 PM
WT4E...there is your problem right there. You need to up your mileage. The amount of days you are training is spot on just need to expand those out, for example, your Tuesday/Friday intervals, do 2 mile warm up nice and slow and finished with 2 mile cool down, that will give you 8 additional miles over the week. You are also doing too many 'quality days', a very common mistake. Always follow a tough session with an easy day so for example on a Wednesday, 6 mile is fine but run it easy rather than fast. Not sure if its just missing this week because of your parkrun but your bread and butter is the long run. To be running sub 20 you need to be running 12/13/14 miles on your long run, usually at the weekend. Slowly increase your weekly mileage to around 35/40 and you'll soon be running mid 19's thinking about how to get into the 18's.
Simple typical week to reach 40 mile.
M - Rest
T - 2 Mile w/u - Session (interval, hills, tempo) - 2 mile c/d
W - 6 Mile easy
T - 2 Mile w/u - Session (interval, hills, tempo, different to Tues) - 2 mile c/d
F - Rest
S - 12 mile easy
S - 6 mile easy
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 23, 2018, 06:30:39 PM
Wt4e you need more slow miles to help your cardio. I know that sounds odd as you are running a bit but the best way to increase fitness is slow miles.

Not every run needs to be a session. I don't think a run at medium pace is massively beneficial. Fast only really beneficial if it is controlled like a tempo run.

What ty4sam has is a decent schedule.

A good rule is for every hard session try and do an easy run too.

Miles are not the be all and end all either - focus in the training helps.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 08:34:35 PM
Thanks for the advice - i will give that programme a try. what would you consider slow miles out of interest?

Will keep you updated for the craic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:50:00 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 08:34:35 PM
Thanks for the advice - i will give that programme a try. what would you consider slow miles out of interest?

Will keep you updated for the craic.
6.25 per mile for 19.59 for the 5k.....so at least 90 seconds slower than race pace for your easy miles...8 min mile...roughly !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 23, 2018, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...

Hilly runs good for this or hill reps. Yeah 8 minute miles or even a bit slower.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...
you can do lunges (forward or back - alternate), split squats,  single leg deadlifts, side lunges, single leg bridging etc
single leg work is very good for improving imbalances in the lower body and also activating the glutes more
look into glute band exercises
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 26, 2018, 12:58:19 AM
Ballinaman take a bow that was some serious running at the weekend, a PB for 10k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2018, 07:29:31 AM
And winner!

Obviously flying based on strava training. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 12:31:01 PM
Sound lads, ya PB by 20 seconds...bitchy enough course so happy out. Going to stick to the 5k/10ks for the next while. One more 10km race this Saturday and then will have a deload week and start on another 10-12 week training cycle...
Short stuff is good craic and you're not dusht for the day after it! Walking sideways up the stairs during marathon training is no craic!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...
you can do lunges (forward or back - alternate), split squats,  single leg deadlifts, side lunges, single leg bridging etc
single leg work is very good for improving imbalances in the lower body and also activating the glutes more
look into glute band exercises
Full disclosure, I've a fair idea of the rationale behind strength training and distance running. Personal opinion , a person would get better bang for their buck by running instead of a gym seession...if they want to improve their running. If they have the ability to do both....fire away absolutely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on March 26, 2018, 02:27:35 PM
Hi Guys, I'm looking  bit of advice. I have been training for the Omagh half marathon (7th April) over the past number of months and have been tipping along nicely. However, I was out training with local GAA club on Sunday morning and tweaked my lower hamstring (feels slightly tender where it meets the knee). I'm not really in pain nor is there any bruising etc around the injury, however, I can feel a bit of tightness.

Question is, do I stand a chance of running half marathon in two weeks? I know this is a difficult question to answer as I don't know the full extent of what I have actually done. Going to see about getting an apt with a physio tomorrow. Would pain relief or anti-inflamatories help a muscle injury like this to get me through the race?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 26, 2018, 02:27:35 PM
Hi Guys, I'm looking  bit of advice. I have been training for the Omagh half marathon (7th April) over the past number of months and have been tipping along nicely. However, I was out training with local GAA club on Sunday morning and tweaked my lower hamstring (feels slightly tender where it meets the knee). I'm not really in pain nor is there any bruising etc around the injury, however, I can feel a bit of tightness.

Question is, do I stand a chance of running half marathon in two weeks? I know this is a difficult question to answer
as I don't know the full extent of what I have actually done. Going to see about getting an apt with a physio tomorrow. Would pain relief or anti-inflamatories help a muscle injury like this to get me through the race?
You'll be sound. Don't take anti inflams for a muscle injury. See your physiotherapist and they'll look after you. Biceps femoris ( likely muscle injured )is only particularly active in high speed running so you'll be sound ..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on March 26, 2018, 04:40:24 PM
Cheers Balinaman, hopefully It holds up as I was really looking forward to it. Your advice makes sense as I felt the 'pull' when making a sharp run into space. I have never had any trouble with the hamstring but as a 33 year old making a move towards playing some reserve football perhaps the aul body wasn't too pleased!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...
you can do lunges (forward or back - alternate), split squats,  single leg deadlifts, side lunges, single leg bridging etc
single leg work is very good for improving imbalances in the lower body and also activating the glutes more
look into glute band exercises
Full disclosure, I've a fair idea of the rationale behind strength training and distance running. Personal opinion , a person would get better bang for their buck by running instead of a gym seession...if they want to improve their running. If they have the ability to do both....fire away absolutely.
yes, but you do both and you add in flexbility sessions as well.
improved mobility can be a big factor in improving your ability to train and recover and therefore your times
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 07:34:29 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 26, 2018, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 23, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 23, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 23, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
I've tried and failed in the past to get sub 20 for 5k. Best time was 20.17 over a year ago

I've decided to try again and have been doing some speed work as well as longer runs but my question was what should I be aiming for on repeat runs of 800m in terms of time.

I have been doing 8 x 400m recently and my speed is between 1.28 - 1.20 with 40sec break between.

Any tips?
muscle endurance is a big thing

you need to do some weight training to allow the legs sustain a higher pace over the whole 5K
Don't know about that. I'd forgo a gym session in favor of running if it's an either or...
you can do lunges (forward or back - alternate), split squats,  single leg deadlifts, side lunges, single leg bridging etc
single leg work is very good for improving imbalances in the lower body and also activating the glutes more
look into glute band exercises
Full disclosure, I've a fair idea of the rationale behind strength training and distance running. Personal opinion , a person would get better bang for their buck by running instead of a gym seession...if they want to improve their running. If they have the ability to do both....fire away absolutely.
yes, but you do both and you add in flexbility sessions as well.
improved mobility can be a big factor in improving your ability to train and recover and therefore your times
Absolutely can help and definitely won't do any harm.

In my personal opinion , I think there is a tendency these days to spend too much flapping around looking for the 1%ers and extras instead of doing the main thing well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerry on March 26, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
I hope to do the omagh 1\2 in two weeks and can't wait until it's over as I hate this fecking running game, fair play to all you marathon guys.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on March 26, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
I've recently had surgery to repair a torn cartilage and can't wait to get back on the road again, did the Dublin marathon 2 years ago but have been advised to stick to shorter distances, would you more experienced runners concur with this? I'd love to give it another crack!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 27, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: Targetman on March 26, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
I've recently had surgery to repair a torn cartilage and can't wait to get back on the road again, did the Dublin marathon 2 years ago but have been advised to stick to shorter distances, would you more experienced runners concur with this? I'd love to give it another crack!!
ease your way back in on softer surfaces

building up the leg muscles strength wise will take some pressure off the joints
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on March 27, 2018, 01:38:07 PM
Oh I'll definitely be easing back into it, don't want to push it too hard, surgery doesn't come cheap, thanks for advice
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 27, 2018, 04:14:47 PM
remember, slow miles are better than no miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:21:37 AM
May or may not interest anyone... Paula Radcliffe is doing the laganside 10k in belfast in September.

Missed your post targetman. Laps of pitches for a while. Ballinaman would be able to advise better on the distances but i suspect lots of ones do marathons with similar though no expert.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2018, 09:45:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:21:37 AM
May or may not interest anyone... Paula Radcliffe is doing the laganside 10k in belfast in September.

Missed your post targetman. Laps of pitches for a while. Ballinaman would be able to advise better on the distances but i suspect lots of ones do marathons with similar though no expert.

Will give that a go! Will be a popular run with her in it.. It can be very windy down there , but it's flat!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:49:00 AM
Yeah it's a good fast 10k. Nowhere near sellout yet but wouldn't leave it too late with her in it.

Most races up here sell out these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:49:00 AM
Yeah it's a good fast 10k. Nowhere near sellout yet but wouldn't leave it too late with her in it.

Most races up here sell out these days.

Was my fastest 10k I think.. 42 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 10:05:00 AM
Only problem is it's the same day as the hurling final!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on April 02, 2018, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:21:37 AM
May or may not interest anyone... Paula Radcliffe is doing the laganside 10k in belfast in September.

Missed your post targetman. Laps of pitches for a while. Ballinaman would be able to advise better on the distances but i suspect lots of ones do marathons with similar though no expert.
. Cheers, just following advice from physio who doesn't recommend another marathon, but I'm not ruling it out, just doing exercises and a bit on the bike at the minute
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: Targetman on April 02, 2018, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 09:21:37 AM
May or may not interest anyone... Paula Radcliffe is doing the laganside 10k in belfast in September.

Missed your post targetman. Laps of pitches for a while. Ballinaman would be able to advise better on the distances but i suspect lots of ones do marathons with similar though no expert.
. Cheers, just following advice from physio who doesn't recommend another marathon, but I'm not ruling it out, just doing exercises and a bit on the bike at the minute
Play it by year and build slowly and see how you respond.
Bike, cross trainer, grass, tartan track , road. 10% rule, no more than a 10% increase in mileage from one week to the next.
Every Physio is subject to bias remember , one who doesn't particularly enjoy running might advise against...while I would try every avenue of approach to get a runner back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 16, 2018, 04:12:36 PM
Brutal weather at the Boston Marathon today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
Saw that... Some of the elite women were running in ponchos!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on April 16, 2018, 09:35:13 PM
That Scottish fella was in bad shape approaching the end of the marathon at the commonwealth games, was in the lead too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2018, 09:59:48 PM
Big story in the boston marathon with the japanese guy yuki who works 9-5 winning it. Apparently an amateur as he isn't allowed to take payments with his work.

Only saw hawkins collapsing today. He was in some shape. That woman he leant over to take a photo needs a good boot up the arse.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on April 17, 2018, 02:49:43 PM
Just wondering if anyone is doing Connemara this weekend? The weather should be good for a change.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on April 17, 2018, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 16, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
Saw that... Some of the elite women were running in ponchos!

My missus did Boston yesterday. 2celcius at start before factoring in wind chill and sleet showers. Friend of mine did it and collapsed. Hypothermia. Ok after a spell in hospital + drip. Sounds like a tough one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2018, 06:40:57 PM
I would say there were probably a lot of hypothermia cases at it. 26 miles in that... wouldn't fancy it.

The story of those 2 winners is pretty massive too. If you had done a double bet on those 2 you would be a very rich person.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 17, 2018, 09:27:40 PM
Hypothermia is a funny one in running. Can affect some people more than others. Tall athletes anecdotally suffer more due to bigger lungs, skin surface area causing more evaporation and cooling. The two winners were fairly small.
Decision making usually takes a hit too when going hypothermic, I watched the full race back today on YouTube. The Ethiopian leading the women's race took off her gloves at 30km...crazy decision, she was passed by Linden at 35km then, went to pieces. Sage Canaday in the men's said he took off his jacket too early and dropped out at 20km because was going hypothermic.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on April 18, 2018, 08:50:57 AM
This is one for anyone round North Armagh, with all the work going out at Craigavon Lakes someone told me yesterday that you can't run or walk round it anymore because the Watersports car park is closed off? Anyone been there lately? Was planning on going round maybe tomorrow or the weekend but not going to if its shut off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on April 18, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
Boston looked brutal!  Fair play to your wife moysider!

The winner is some boy!

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2018/apr/17/10-reasons-yuki-kawauchi-boston-marathon-winner-should-be-your-favourite-runner (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2018/apr/17/10-reasons-yuki-kawauchi-boston-marathon-winner-should-be-your-favourite-runner)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
London Marathon gonna be a hot one! 20 degrees already.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
It's going to be a good race at the font. I think the womens record attempt isn't going to happen based on first few mile. I think farah may blow a gasket - still training in ethipoia i see :( (no drug testing there)

I know quite a few doing it so be interesting to see how they get on. They are varying levels of fitness but the heat will probably hit allof them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
Sir Mo seems keen! Looks like a tough ask to have any records broken yoday
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2018, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
It's going to be a good race at the font. I think the womens record attempt isn't going to happen based on first few mile. I think farah may blow a gasket - still training in ethipoia i see :( (no drug testing there)

I know quite a few doing it so be interesting to see how they get on. They are varying levels of fitness but the heat will probably hit allof them.
Bingo is doing it. Anyone else from this parish?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on April 22, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
Mo's not happy, he can't find his drink!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2018, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: Targetman on April 22, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
Mo's not happy, he can't find his drink!!

How is his asthma holding up ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on April 22, 2018, 11:38:25 AM
All you Bingo fans he went through half way in 1.27.09
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on April 22, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2018, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: Targetman on April 22, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
Mo's not happy, he can't find his drink!!

How is his asthma holding up ?
I think the medication's working well!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2018, 12:43:14 PM
Thyroid not active enough though... ;)

He said the drink station person went to take a photo. Arsehole lol.

Don't know anyone from on here ll.

Mary keitany fairly blew. Fair play to her for finishing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on April 22, 2018, 01:22:08 PM
Bingo finished in 2.59.39
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rittal on April 22, 2018, 01:30:56 PM
Friend of mine did it. Finished in 4:00:05 he's gutted to be so close to sub 4 but not get it. Said conditions were very hard.


I'm wrong it was actually 3:00:05 and he's gutted not to go sub 3.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
Few friends I know going it, checking their splits and they are slower than expected ! Conditions proving to be tough!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 22, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
Savage performance by Bingo. Followed him on the tracker..he put the shoe down to nip under 3!
Conditions looked very hard.
Great performance by Mohammed Farah despite all his medical conditions  ::)

Fair play to Keitany to go for it...legs were shot, how I know that feeling blowing black smoke in a marathon ..pain!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on April 22, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Seen Bingo at 24 miles and he was flying. Brother was doing his 1st and ran 3:45:48. Fecker had only ran a 5k when he moved over here a year ago!!

Heat was unreal, even watching it was a mission.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2018, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 22, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
Savage performance by Bingo. Followed him on the tracker..he put the shoe down to nip under 3!
Conditions looked very hard.
Great performance by Mohammed Farah despite all his medical conditions  ::)

Fair play to Keitany to go for it...legs were shot, how I know that feeling blowing black smoke in a marathon ..pain!
Great going from bingo in that heat. He had a picture of himself on facebook the other night wearing some sort of recovery aid machine on his legs. It must have worked!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2018, 07:47:17 PM
I know a fella who blew up at 22 miles with heat exhaustion and medics wouldn't let him continue. Gutted especially as had raised a good few quid for charity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2018, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2018, 07:47:17 PM
I know a fella who blew up at 22 miles with heat exhaustion and medics wouldn't let him continue. Gutted especially as had raised a good few quid for charity.

Two marathons lately, Boston and people were suffering from hypothermia and today in London heat exhaustion! Bad enough doing it without the elements making it hundred times worse
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2018, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2018, 07:47:17 PM
I know a fella who blew up at 22 miles with heat exhaustion and medics wouldn't let him continue. Gutted especially as had raised a good few quid for charity.
That would be sickening alright.  I remember seeing a runner about 500 yards from the finish at Dublin Marathon in 2014 being pulled off the course after collapsing. She was pleading with the medics to let her finish but they were having none of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 22, 2018, 09:50:17 PM
The BBC do a fantastic job covering the London Marathon. Even after the elites are finished I love hearing the stories about some of the ordinary runners.
Pity RTE don't do similar with Dublin Marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on April 22, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Gary O Hanlon had some time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2018, 10:05:13 PM
1st 40 plus.

Stephen scullion was 12th and beat all the british bar farah. He has a lot in him that fella if he gets his head right so good to see him performing.

Gnr very like that too ll. I suspect rte don't quite have the budget.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2018, 10:34:06 PM
What way does the ballot go? Do you pay up front and if you get picked that's paid , if not you obviously get a refund? It's opened on the 28th
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2018, 07:28:13 AM
Don't think you pay up front. I think it's just name in hat kind of. You may give bank details up front though- can't recall exactly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 23, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
Boston and London have shown that spring marathons can't be trusted in terms of weather.
That's after having the battle the weather and darkness during the winter in training leading up to them.
Having a look at Manchester marathon next April despite having said that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rittal on April 23, 2018, 09:04:56 AM
Watching the BBC coverage would certainly inspire you to complete a marathon. I'm not much of a runner apart from doing park runs most weekends. Would it be a big ask to think about doing Dublin Marathon this year? Longest I've ever run to date is probably about 7km. Park run times are usually around 22 or 23 minutes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 23, 2018, 12:25:01 PM
I see a runner has died after collapsing at London Marathon yesterday.
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/23/masterchef-contestant-dies-collapsing-london-marathon/amp/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on May 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Fellas, need some help.  I've been looking for a red n black hooped running vest in sport shops and online for an absolute age and no joy whatsoever.  By any chance do any of you run for or know of a club who competes in such kit??  Grateful for any info!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on May 03, 2018, 08:57:44 PM
Entered my first 10k at the end of June. Just about a week after it and my knee starts playing up again every time I go out. Great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 03, 2018, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: No1 on May 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Fellas, need some help.  I've been looking for a red n black hooped running vest in sport shops and online for an absolute age and no joy whatsoever.  By any chance do any of you run for or know of a club who competes in such kit??  Grateful for any info!
Maybe somewhere like here could help?
https://www.owayo.ie/create-custom-running-shirts.htm
Plenty of other sites that do similar if you google it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on May 03, 2018, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2018, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: No1 on May 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Fellas, need some help.  I've been looking for a red n black hooped running vest in sport shops and online for an absolute age and no joy whatsoever.  By any chance do any of you run for or know of a club who competes in such kit??  Grateful for any info!
Maybe somewhere like here could help?
https://www.owayo.ie/create-custom-running-shirts.htm
Plenty of other sites that do similar if you google it
No.1 try this clubhttp://www.marplerunners.com/club-shop/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on May 03, 2018, 10:24:05 PM
Thanks lads, I'll try both of those. Unbelievable how difficult it's been to source a red n black hooped vest!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2018, 01:46:00 PM
Large running tops from China are very very small.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 07, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
Dreadful news about the death of a runner in his 50's during todays belfast marathon. RIP.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
It was within the first 4 or 5 miles too. A boy in work was telling us he saw other runners trying to help him but didn't know what had happened him. Very sad. Not sure what happened but don't think it was warm enough, especially at that time, for heat to be a factor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 08:16:19 AM
Anyone else sign up for Dublin Marathon? Got one of the last few entries myself. Was only 600 places left according to their Facebook when I signed up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 10, 2018, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 08:16:19 AM
Anyone else sign up for Dublin Marathon? Got one of the last few entries myself. Was only 600 places left according to their Facebook when I signed up!
Fair play. Biggest field ever this year it seems. Good luck with the training !

Avoiding it this year myself,, enjoying the shorter stuff at the minute.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Bm for a man avoiding marathons a lot of your strava runs say MP ;D(unless i am misunderstanding what mp means!!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 10:23:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Bm for a man avoiding marathons a lot of your strava runs say MP ;D(unless i am misunderstanding what mp means!!)
A lot of of his Strava runs leave me thinking how the feck can his easy pace runs be faster than my all out red zone runs  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 10, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Bm for a man avoiding marathons a lot of your strava runs say MP ;D(unless i am misunderstanding what mp means!!)
Ah MP is only a guide. Following jack daniels running formulae book for the training!
I'm definitely staying away from marathon this year...got a right sickner last year !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 10, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Bm for a man avoiding marathons a lot of your strava runs say MP ;D(unless i am misunderstanding what mp means!!)
Ah MP is only a guide. Following jack daniels running formulae book for the training!
I'm definitely staying away from marathon this year...got a right sickner last year !

;D I was wondering if you had got the itch again. I always think people should get the shorter times down and then go for the marathon. Your shorter stuff is going well so should stand you in good stead for whenever you next tackle a marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 10, 2018, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 10, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Bm for a man avoiding marathons a lot of your strava runs say MP ;D(unless i am misunderstanding what mp means!!)
Ah MP is only a guide. Following jack daniels running formulae book for the training!
I'm definitely staying away from marathon this year...got a right sickner last year !

;D I was wondering if you had got the itch again. I always think people should get the shorter times down and then go for the marathon. Your shorter stuff is going well so should stand you in good stead for whenever you next tackle a marathon!
Hopefully ...although winter training for Manchester next year could be torture!
Going to give the 5k PB another crack mid July !
Going well yourself, fair play!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 04:38:42 PM
There's very few good 5ks up north - you guys are spoiled!

Getting there but still making up for a lot of lost time.

The weather has been pretty unfavourable for fast marathons with the heat this year plus the freak boston weather. I feel sorry for people chasing times. With london good for age getting a lot harder a lot of people are cramming them in too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on June 14, 2018, 01:59:11 PM
Just wondering if anyone has signed up for the Gaelforce ultra on June 23rd?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 18, 2018, 04:15:31 PM
Hill training - never did it but have read about it and understand the benefits. I'm a plodder but by my standards I've built a decent base over the last 4/5 weeks and run 3 times a week. My goal is the Warriors Run (14km up and down a mountain, tough event) on August 25th, firstly to complete it successfully and then, if possible in a better time than last year. I think if I continue the way I am I'll achieve both those goals. I can feel the improvements in me with the training are more rapid than last year when I was recovering from major surgery. I do think though that one of my runs could be a hill circuit and I'm planning to do the following - comments welcome.

Tough hill that's about 250m long and reasonable steep. It's about a 1.5k from the house. Planning to jog gently to the hill, run up it (good form, strongish pace), walk or jog back down and repeat x 2 (3 times total). Then I'll jog home the long way (about 3k). Aim to do this once a week and add a rep. does this sound reasonable?

My other training in the week: I do a long (slow) run at the weekend (up to 10k this week, adding a km each week) and a run with a group on Wednesday that can be easy or tempo depending on how the body feels (about 5-6k).

3 times is about the most I can fit in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 08:22:47 AM
Hill repeats won't do you any harm. I was gonna say they wouldn't hurt but they will..... A lot.!
If you're running up a mountain I'm sure they will be of even more benefit to you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2018, 09:58:31 AM
There's a great forest run for training in Mullaghmeen forest near Castlepollard in Westmeath - close to Cavan and north Meath too. Two different marked routes.
the hill out the back will test anyone 60 degree+ climb
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on June 19, 2018, 10:02:44 AM
If you were doing a 10k in the evening what prep would you advise for the day before and day of the race?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on June 19, 2018, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on June 19, 2018, 10:02:44 AM
If you were doing a 10k in the evening what prep would you advise for the day, before and day of the race?

Eat right and lots of water. Day before could go out and do a 1km run with heel kicks and high knees to activate muscles. Keep feet up after that. On day before race a good warm up and good stretching.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 19, 2018, 03:49:58 PM
My hill repeats went well. Did 3 and will do it again next week and go for 4. It's a perfect hill for these.....about 230m and gets steeper as you go up. Nice change to my training.....will see how the legs are tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on June 20, 2018, 11:55:16 PM
First 10k race tonight. Was a whole lot tougher than any of my practice 10ks in the run up. I'd three weeks off training at the end of May start of June due to getting married so was almost happy with my time but now fancy bringing it down.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
Seanie hill repeats a great workout - key thing about them is not to worry too much about speed. Maintaining form throughout them more important - i.e. keep your posture and keep the knees driving etc. You'll get most benefit out of them when you focus on that.

Well done Don. Was that lisburn?(Not sure where you're from so might be far from the mark!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on June 21, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
Seanie hill repeats a great workout - key thing about them is not to worry too much about speed. Maintaining form throughout them more important - i.e. keep your posture and keep the knees driving etc. You'll get most benefit out of them when you focus on that.

Well done Don. Was that lisburn?(Not sure where you're from so might be far from the mark!)

Cheers. Might have gone a bit quick at them the first night.....was a bit sore yesterday but a nice relaxed run last night has eased me out a bit. I've never done hill repeats since I took up running (despite meaning to several times)....interesting to see the impact they may have. Must say I'm going through a phase of really enjoying my running again which I thought had left me for good in the last couple of years.
Title: Belfast Marathon
Post by: No1 on June 28, 2018, 08:41:26 AM
2019 Belfast Marathon moved to the Sunday before the Bank Holiday in May and a proposed new route (taking out Antrim Road and Duncrue).

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/belfast-city-marathon-route-day-14838123 (https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/belfast-city-marathon-route-day-14838123)

A good move for everyone and about time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 08, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
Some great results in the euro u18 with three golds and a silver for ireland.

Healy looks like a good one and would probably have won 800 gold too had she competed in it. She has already beat mageean in the 800 this year so looks like she already is irish number one at 800 and 1500 at this stage.

Good wee video following sonia watching her daughter's race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 08, 2018, 08:58:31 PM
Seen that video also. Thought it was great alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on July 17, 2018, 10:10:03 AM
Anyone know the route for this GymCo Feile 10k in a couple weeks?

https://athleticsni.org/Fixtures/GymCo-Feile-10K
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on July 17, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
The first couple of times you run after such a break will be a real shock to the body. I am seasonal runner - could spend 4 or 5 months running regularly then 5 or 6 months not at all - the first week or two when I start back is pretty brutal on the whole system but it gets easier (not the running, the recovery). Keep at it, nothing like a few miles to clear the head (and lungs).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Cycling is for poofs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Cycling is for poofs

Guess that makes me a poof then, that's not very nice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Cycling is for poofs

Guess that makes me a poof then, that's not very nice.

In saying that I couldn't just get on my bike and do 100 miles! But it's easier on the body exercise to running!! I've ran a few days here on holiday and was busted but it was the heat! 

Running is an all over work out, ive a few friends who would spin 4 nights a week and do 100 miles on Saturday and a Sunday, they ain't small around the waist either!

I've taken them out of their comfort zone a few times to a hiit class and punctured is an understatement... so the point is mix it up, don't be a poof  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on July 17, 2018, 11:43:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Making a return for the reserve final?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 12:17:24 PM
Correct, I've two weeks to get my mojo back. Need to stop being a poof and start taking people out of the game again (have missed dishing out a bit of pain)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Cycling is for poofs

Guess that makes me a poof then, that's not very nice.

In saying that I couldn't just get on my bike and do 100 miles! But it's easier on the body exercise to running!! I've ran a few days here on holiday and was busted but it was the heat! 

Running is an all over work out, ive a few friends who would spin 4 nights a week and do 100 miles on Saturday and a Sunday, they ain't small around the waist either!

I've taken them out of their comfort zone a few times to a hiit class and punctured is an understatement... so the point is mix it up, don't be a poof  ;)

In fairness i have seen quite a few guys that need to eat less as they're stretching their Lycra beyond it's capabilities. I think you see a few more fat cyclists because they can get away with it easier on a bike than trying to run when over weight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...

Cycling is for poofs

Guess that makes me a poof then, that's not very nice.

In saying that I couldn't just get on my bike and do 100 miles! But it's easier on the body exercise to running!! I've ran a few days here on holiday and was busted but it was the heat! 

Running is an all over work out, ive a few friends who would spin 4 nights a week and do 100 miles on Saturday and a Sunday, they ain't small around the waist either!

I've taken them out of their comfort zone a few times to a hiit class and punctured is an understatement... so the point is mix it up, don't be a poof  ;)

In fairness i have seen quite a few guys that need to eat less as they're stretching their Lycra beyond it's capabilities. I think you see a few more fat cyclists because they can get away with it easier on a bike than trying to run when over weight.

I've noticed over years doing triathlons that in sprint ones the heavier guys were beating me by 10/15 minutes, decent swimmers but great on the bike, so by the time I'd got off the bike to run they probably about a mile to run while I had to run over 3!

The longer races they gained even more time on the bike over a greater distance, but I was managing to catch up with them before the end of the run! But as you say, can't put train the diet!

Good luck if you're back playing, fitness is one thing but taking the hits and tackles is another thing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 17, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
In fairness it works both ways. As far as running goes I'd consider myself fairly fit at the moment.
I went back cycling though a month or so ago and my first time out I nearly collapsed off the bike at the end. It's like anything though, keep doing it and it gets better.
First night out I think I only averaged 21kph, after a few weeks I was doing the same route at 28kph.
Me personally though I don't get the same buzz from cycling as I do from running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on July 17, 2018, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
In fairness it works both ways. As far as running goes I'd consider myself fairly fit at the moment.
I went back cycling though a month or so ago and my first time out I nearly collapsed off the bike at the end. It's like anything though, keep doing it and it gets better.
First night out I think I only averaged 21kph, after a few weeks I was doing the same route at 28kph.
Me personally though I don't get the same buzz from cycling as I do from running.

Have you tried going out in a group - lots of cycling clubs around Dublin that cater for beginners/improvers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GJL on July 17, 2018, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
In fairness it works both ways. As far as running goes I'd consider myself fairly fit at the moment.
I went back cycling though a month or so ago and my first time out I nearly collapsed off the bike at the end. It's like anything though, keep doing it and it gets better.
First night out I think I only averaged 21kph, after a few weeks I was doing the same route at 28kph.
Me personally though I don't get the same buzz from cycling as I do from running.

Give mountain biking a go. I ride on the road and the MTB and get a much better buzz on the MTB. Can be very tough as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 17, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 17, 2018, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
In fairness it works both ways. As far as running goes I'd consider myself fairly fit at the moment.
I went back cycling though a month or so ago and my first time out I nearly collapsed off the bike at the end. It's like anything though, keep doing it and it gets better.
First night out I think I only averaged 21kph, after a few weeks I was doing the same route at 28kph.
Me personally though I don't get the same buzz from cycling as I do from running.

Have you tried going out in a group - lots of cycling clubs around Dublin that cater for beginners/improvers
I haven't no. Maybe next year.
Marathon training just started so will be concentrating on that until end of October.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Laoislad i agree cycling can be a bit boring depending on the route but the last 10 mile of a decent size run and the group hits the turbo button for home and you're chewing the handle bars trying to hold on is great craic, your legs are burning beyond recognition and your lungs can't get enough oxygen in. Then sitting on the sofa like a busted flush all day after it knowing you emptied the tank and couldn't have given any more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2018, 03:07:43 PM
I would say the same ll. I don't get the same out of cycling. I do like it but just not as much as the running. I have done a few sportives etc too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 10:19:18 PM
Any good online sports shops for trainers?  My Hokas are done! Looking new trainers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 28, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Ballinaman getting married today and still had time to do a Park Run this morning!*
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CornUladh02 on July 29, 2018, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
Went out on Sunday morning for a small run, first time in about 5 years running and i have to say it was tough. I had the sense to not go too far first time out but only done 2 1/2 miles and it was bad. My leg muscles after run didn't know what had hit them and still sore today, i ran slow enough (eight and a half minute miles) but could't believe how hard the leg muscles got it.

I played football all my life until 8 years ago and took up cycling 4 years ago, wouldn't think twice about cycling 100 miles so am fit enough but couldn't believe what a 2 1/2 mile jog done to me...
I think it's called getting the dirty diesel out of your system!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 30, 2018, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 28, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Ballinaman getting married today and still had time to do a Park Run this morning!*
Thanks LL. Good craic !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 30, 2018, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 28, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Ballinaman getting married today and still had time to do a Park Run this morning!*
Thanks LL. Good craic !

Fair play to you lad, start as you mean to go on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 30, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 30, 2018, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: laoislad on July 28, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Ballinaman getting married today and still had time to do a Park Run this morning!*
Thanks LL. Good craic !

Fair play to you lad, start as you mean to go on

He's obviously not read the Mid life crisis thread  :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jim Bob on July 30, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 10:19:18 PM
Any good online sports shops for trainers?  My Hokas are done! Looking new trainers

Sports Direct
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jim Bob on August 05, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Have I got this 'runners knee? 
Started running again at start of July and have built up to 5k. I noticed when I started that I had pain in my right knee when I climbed up or downstairs especially walking down stairs. 
The pain  is surrounding my knee and not on kneecap itself. I continued to run as there was no pain in doing so  whatsoever. Do I need to stop running anyway until this goes away and would a physio be my best option? Thanks in advance for any help/advice
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2018, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 05, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Have I got this 'runners knee? 
Started running again at start of July and have built up to 5k. I noticed when I started that I had pain in my right knee when I climbed up or downstairs especially walking down stairs. 
The pain  is surrounding my knee and not on kneecap itself. I continued to run as there was no pain in doing so  whatsoever. Do I need to stop running anyway until this goes away and would a physio be my best option? Thanks in advance for any help/advice

Is the pain along side your knee? It's a shitty injury but will eventually work it's way out! Use the Roller and work it out, the T band can be a bollox but there are plenty better here at telling you from a professional background what's best to do
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jim Bob on August 05, 2018, 11:47:24 AM
It's underneath and to a lesser extent above the kneecap. Haven't run since Friday and eased off a bit when descending stairs but it's still there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 09:50:50 PM
I don't *think* that is ITB which is what MR is talking about. More likely to be runners knee though BM is your man for this kind of thing. If your ITB is giving you problems then you would feel it up the side of their leg. Stretching out your quads would definitely do you no harm and probably things like glute medius.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 06, 2018, 10:39:33 AM
Question for runners. 

The mrs is interested in doing the Dublin Marathon but it appears to now be sold out.  Is there anyway of getting her into it at this stage?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 09, 2018, 07:32:58 PM
Fair play to Thomas Barr.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jim Bob on August 11, 2018, 05:34:03 PM
Me again. Applied an ice pack to my knee and left on for half hour. Am now left with a red burn mark around my knee. Ice pack burn I assume. Not sore but quite a red mark. Anyone ever experience this?. From reading online I am seeing stuff from " it ll go away eventually no harm in it " to " get medical treatment immediately possibility of developing into more serious condition"
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Insane Bolt on August 11, 2018, 08:17:41 PM
Some double by the 17 year old Ingerbrigtsen
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 12, 2018, 05:18:59 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 11, 2018, 05:34:03 PM
Me again. Applied an ice pack to my knee and left on for half hour. Am now left with a red burn mark around my knee. Ice pack burn I assume. Not sore but quite a red mark. Anyone ever experience this?. From reading online I am seeing stuff from " it ll go away eventually no harm in it " to " get medical treatment immediately possibility of developing into more serious condition"
Patellafemoral pain/runners knee. Just keep on eye on how much miles you are doing and not spike your training volume / intensity. This is the cause of gradual onset of knee pain in majority of runners in my experience ....get the load right

Ice burn will resolve. No need to leave ice application on much >10 minutes at a time as cryotherapy affects have reached peak then research says. Better off applying 10 minute intermittently than continuously.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 13, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 12, 2018, 05:18:59 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 11, 2018, 05:34:03 PM
Me again. Applied an ice pack to my knee and left on for half hour. Am now left with a red burn mark around my knee. Ice pack burn I assume. Not sore but quite a red mark. Anyone ever experience this?. From reading online I am seeing stuff from " it ll go away eventually no harm in it " to " get medical treatment immediately possibility of developing into more serious condition"
Patellafemoral pain/runners knee. Just keep on eye on how much miles you are doing and not spike your training volume / intensity. This is the cause of gradual onset of knee pain in majority of runners in my experience ....get the load right

Ice burn will resolve. No need to leave ice application on much >10 minutes at a time as cryotherapy affects have reached peak then research says. Better off applying 10 minute intermittently than continuously.
Standing in a lake, sea or stream is even better
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 21, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 22, 2018, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: CD on August 21, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?
If you want to participate in multi directional cutting sports...current evidence favours surgery. However surgery accelerates the arthritic process in the knee joint which you need to be aware up. 3 months post surgery you can jog usually , 9-12 months before pitch ready. (Generally)

If you just want to run and do non contact linear sports, running..cycling..ACL deficient knee is absolutely fine. Comes with the caveat of really working hard on your rehab for a sustained period. No accelerated arthritis however .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CD on August 22, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 22, 2018, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: CD on August 21, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?
If you want to participate in multi directional cutting sports...current evidence favours surgery. However surgery accelerates the arthritic process in the knee joint which you need to be aware up. 3 months post surgery you can jog usually , 9-12 months before pitch ready. (Generally)

If you just want to run and do non contact linear sports, running..cycling..ACL deficient knee is absolutely fine. Comes with the caveat of really working hard on your rehab for a sustained period. No accelerated arthritis however .
Thanks ballinaman. That's the toss up - I think surgery will end the associated back pain and enable me to run unencumbered for a few years but arthritis could be accelerated. A bit like getting the eyes lazered!! No longer short sighted but now I need reading glassses!
Sports are done for me so just running. Would running with a knee support help in long term?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 22, 2018, 06:33:48 PM
Quote from: CD on August 22, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 22, 2018, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: CD on August 21, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Just had MRI to confirm my fourth partial ACL tear. First one was 12 years ago' then 2012, 2014 and last month. Physio got me through the last few but it's much sorer this time. Anyone with experience of this? Waiting on an orthopaedic appointment to discuss next steps. In 2014 surgeon said he was 50/50 and basically let me make the call. Keeps going though so I reckon surgery this time. A niggling lower back pain is definitely linked and I have had limited movement in that knee/leg for a decade. Any one know risks and time for recovery?
If you want to participate in multi directional cutting sports...current evidence favours surgery. However surgery accelerates the arthritic process in the knee joint which you need to be aware up. 3 months post surgery you can jog usually , 9-12 months before pitch ready. (Generally)

If you just want to run and do non contact linear sports, running..cycling..ACL deficient knee is absolutely fine. Comes with the caveat of really working hard on your rehab for a sustained period. No accelerated arthritis however .
Thanks ballinaman. That's the toss up - I think surgery will end the associated back pain and enable me to run unencumbered for a few years but arthritis could be accelerated. A bit like getting the eyes lazered!! No longer short sighted but now I need reading glassses!
Sports are done for me so just running. Would running with a knee support help in long term?
Back pain is complex and can be due to a number of factors , id be hesitant to pin it all down on recent knee pain.
Id highly recommend Enda King in Santry Sports Clinic to look after you.
Knee support when running would have a placebo affect initially as they aren't really able to do much vs ground reaction force when running , but if makes you feel more confident and better...fire away for a short time ...don't want to create a dependency in the long term though. throw us a pm if you unsure of anything

Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 30, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
Looking for advice. I have a lower back problem which has being ongoing for five months and I am in agony with it at times. It is on the right side and pain shoots down into the leg too at times.  I have tried both physio and a chiropractor for it and neither has worked fully. Couple quick questions. Would physio or a chiropractor be more effective. Also if these options aren't working what next?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Have you had an MRI? Back pain running down the leg could be disc related, sciatica or could just be tightness round piriformis (wish) muscle.

If you have private health you could get an MRI quickly or see a GP and get on the waiting list. It could rule the serious stuff in or out.

(Disclaimer BM is a physio so knows much more than any of us but the above is based on previous experience!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 30, 2018, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 30, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
Looking for advice. I have a lower back problem which has being ongoing for five months and I am in agony with it at times. It is on the right side and pain shoots down into the leg too at times.  I have tried both physio and a chiropractor for it and neither has worked fully. Couple quick questions. Would physio or a chiropractor be more effective. Also if these options aren't working what next?
Where are you based ? Can you see a chartered physiotherapist with a good reputation?

https://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/10-myths-about-back-pain-and-how-to-cope-when-it-strikes-35330563.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 30, 2018, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 30, 2018, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 30, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
Looking for advice. I have a lower back problem which has being ongoing for five months and I am in agony with it at times. It is on the right side and pain shoots down into the leg too at times.  I have tried both physio and a chiropractor for it and neither has worked fully. Couple quick questions. Would physio or a chiropractor be more effective. Also if these options aren't working what next?
Where are you based ? Can you see a chartered physiotherapist with a good reputation?

https://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/10-myths-about-back-pain-and-how-to-cope-when-it-strikes-35330563.html

Yeah Ronan Carolan wouldn't be too far away from me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?

physics, psychics, or physios...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?

physics, psychics, or physios...
;D

Only 1 letter out lol. I'll try that again...

What have your physios said?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 30, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?
a = Δv / Δt
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on August 30, 2018, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on August 30, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?

physics, psychics, or physios...
;D

Only 1 letter out lol. I'll try that again...

What have your physios said?

Had a few sessions and gave me a stretching programme to do which helped but never really got rid of it fully. He didn't think any disk problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2018, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
What have any physics said to you to date?
a = Δv / Δt

;D

Well that's good he didn't think it was disc related at least.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 16, 2018, 10:21:25 AM
Marathon World Record just after being absolutely smashed in Berlin by Kipchoge.
2.01.40 :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on September 16, 2018, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 16, 2018, 10:21:25 AM
Marathon World Record just after being absolutely smashed in Berlin by Kipchoge.
2.01.40 :o

Berlin is the place to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on September 16, 2018, 10:41:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 16, 2018, 10:21:25 AM
Marathon World Record just after being absolutely smashed in Berlin by Kipchoge.
2.01.40 :o
unreal running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2018, 01:13:53 PM
Anyone's Strava playing up? I've been out for few runs lately and it's recorded parts or added extra km or taken km off and it's all routes I've done in the past. I've been using the iphone for it, maybe not as accurate as the watch?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 06, 2018, 11:37:34 AM
Anyone else doing Dublin Marathon in a few weeks?
Last long run of 20 miles done this morning. Not long left now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 06, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 06, 2018, 11:37:34 AM
Anyone else doing Dublin Marathon in a few weeks?
Last long run of 20 miles done this morning. Not long left now.
yeah doing it myself, 20 miles to look forward to in the morning  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 06, 2018, 06:22:07 PM
Here is an article about a friend of mine running her 100th marathon.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/news/ct-sta-marathon-woman-oak-forest-st-1007-story.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 21, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
One week countdown to my first marathon in Dublin. Took a notion of doing it and started training in mid Jul,  inspired by a few family members and friends who have done or who are doing Dublin. Wouldn't say I've stuck rigidly to any plan but have got myself in reasonable shape and have banked 4 or 5 long runs as well as mixing it up with shorter faster runs midweek. Ran Armagh 10 mile last weekend and have more or less started to ease back since. Struggling to get my head around very little running this week, feel like it will leave me in a bad place but assured it is the way to go for the week ahead!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2018, 10:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 21, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
One week countdown to my first marathon in Dublin. Took a notion of doing it and started training in mid Jul,  inspired by a few family members and friends who have done or who are doing Dublin. Wouldn't say I've stuck rigidly to any plan but have got myself in reasonable shape and have banked 4 or 5 long runs as well as mixing it up with shorter faster runs midweek. Ran Armagh 10 mile last weekend and have more or less started to ease back since. Struggling to get my head around very little running this week, feel like it will leave me in a bad place but assured it is the way to go for the week ahead!

Good luck, and you'll be grand, physically you're probably grand, mentally is where (for me on my one and only) it may let you down..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 22, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 21, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
One week countdown to my first marathon in Dublin. Took a notion of doing it and started training in mid Jul,  inspired by a few family members and friends who have done or who are doing Dublin. Wouldn't say I've stuck rigidly to any plan but have got myself in reasonable shape and have banked 4 or 5 long runs as well as mixing it up with shorter faster runs midweek. Ran Armagh 10 mile last weekend and have more or less started to ease back since. Struggling to get my head around very little running this week, feel like it will leave me in a bad place but assured it is the way to go for the week ahead!
Can't wait for it now myself.
A morning like this morning would be absolutely perfect for it. 
What time are you hoping for? The majority of the first half is uphill, second half is a bit easier. The last half mile is brilliant with the crowds cheering.Enjoy it though if you're like me you'll be in a world of pain at that stage  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 22, 2018, 11:36:42 AM
Best of luck to ye all doing it. Had signed up but wee lad arrived in July which scuppered any plans I had of training and having experienced last year after a full training plan complete there is no way I would show up half cooked!!

Bit of advice; one of the lads I done it with last year got 3 of us T-Shirts done up (were raising money for charity in memory of his sister), anyway, he had our names put on the front of them, brilliant job, plenty of encouragement the whole way round!

Done Paris and Dublin last year and the crowd in Dublin was 100 times better, great marathon and disappointed I won't be there next week, just managing to get back doing a bit now that the wee lad is sleeping through the night!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 22, 2018, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 22, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 21, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
One week countdown to my first marathon in Dublin. Took a notion of doing it and started training in mid Jul,  inspired by a few family members and friends who have done or who are doing Dublin. Wouldn't say I've stuck rigidly to any plan but have got myself in reasonable shape and have banked 4 or 5 long runs as well as mixing it up with shorter faster runs midweek. Ran Armagh 10 mile last weekend and have more or less started to ease back since. Struggling to get my head around very little running this week, feel like it will leave me in a bad place but assured it is the way to go for the week ahead!
Can't wait for it now myself.
A morning like this morning would be absolutely perfect for it. 
What time are you hoping for? The majority of the first half is uphill, second half is a bit easier. The last half mile is brilliant with the crowds cheering.Enjoy it though if you're like me you'll be in a world of pain at that stage  ;D

Thanks Laoislad, appreciate the advice. I am going to aim for 3.30...first marathon and probably ambitious but the plan I loosely followed always had runs aimed at 1min over marathon pace, 30sec below marathon pace etc so had to pick a time to train towards. Really I am a running novice, stopped playing football and ran a few 10ks here and there and in the last 18 months upped the mileage a little bit and enjoyed it. Good luck to you and anyone else going, I am really looking forward to it now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
Sean Cox's family said on the Late Late show that Sean was signed up to do Dublin this year. Sure enough I checked the programme given out at the expo today and his name is on it.
Just goes to show you how lucky we are to be even lining up at the start line to run it.
Enjoy it tomorrow who ever is doing it. It's a great Marathon with a wonderful atmosphere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 27, 2018, 09:12:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 27, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
Sean Cox's family said on the Late Late show that Sean was signed up to do Dublin this year. Sure enough I checked the programme given out at the expo today and his name is on it.
Just goes to show you how lucky we are to be even lining up at the start line to run it.
Enjoy it tomorrow who ever is doing it. It's a great Marathon with a wonderful atmosphere.

Enjoy everyone doing it, very jealous now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 27, 2018, 09:15:46 PM
Good luck tomorrow everyone remember 20 miles is the half way mark. Keep a bit in the tank for last six. Enjoy the craic you cant beat the Dubs for humor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
First 5K run this morning for over a year
Finished in 21:00
Time to start shaving time off that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 27, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Looking forward to it and dreading it at the same time  ;D time for bed, looking forward to a few deserved beers tomorrow. Good luck to everyone running, enjoy it if you can.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 27, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Good luck to eveyone in the marathon tomorrow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Don Johnson on October 27, 2018, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
First 5K run this morning for over a year
Finished in 21:00
Time to start shaving time off that

Humblebrag.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 28, 2018, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on October 27, 2018, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 27, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
First 5K run this morning for over a year
Finished in 21:00
Time to start shaving time off that

Humblebrag.
It's 2 mins slower than my best time.
Best of luck to marathon runners today
I'll never run one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 28, 2018, 06:00:15 PM
My youngest brother ran the marathon today with no training. He finished 4 hours 40 minutes. My sister who registered to run couldn't commit and gave him her bib. It was literally a last minute decision. He has ran Dublin a few times finishing once at 3 hours 15 minutes so he had previous experience. But still it's a long haul with zero preperation.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 30, 2018, 09:43:19 AM
First marathon completed and a huge itch scratched!

I have to say it really was a fantastic experience. I trained towards a 3.30 time and finished in 3.25. I felt fairly comfortable throughout and had a plan to keep it nice and steady until I got over that infamous hill and then push a little harder for home and I stuck to the plan. Enjoyed the last 3 miles despite a bit of cramp that took about 20 seconds to stretch out. Once I saw the finish line in sight and knew my 3.30 target was safe I eased off and soaked up the atmosphere which was unbelievable! Managed to stop for a hug with the family near the end and that started the tears, it was an emotional moment.

The event itself is a credit to all those involved in making it happen. From the expo to the finish line and beyond, everyone I encountered had a smile and a word of encouragement and the support along the route was incredible. Well done to everyone else here who made the start line, hope you all got around it ok.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 09:58:15 AM
Well done and a smashing time! Sounds like you had a great time! I was emotional also when I saw the family at such an event!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2018, 10:21:13 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 30, 2018, 09:43:19 AM
First marathon completed and a huge itch scratched!

I have to say it really was a fantastic experience. I trained towards a 3.30 time and finished in 3.25. I felt fairly comfortable throughout and had a plan to keep it nice and steady until I got over that infamous hill and then push a little harder for home and I stuck to the plan. Enjoyed the last 3 miles despite a bit of cramp that took about 20 seconds to stretch out. Once I saw the finish line in sight and knew my 3.30 target was safe I eased off and soaked up the atmosphere which was unbelievable! Managed to stop for a hug with the family near the end and that started the tears, it was an emotional moment.

The event itself is a credit to all those involved in making it happen. From the expo to the finish line and beyond, everyone I encountered had a smile and a word of encouragement and the support along the route was incredible. Well done to everyone else here who made the start line, hope you all got around it ok.
Well done and fair play,delighted you enjoyed it and a great time also,you'll be back next year!The support gets better every year in Dublin. The last mile is incredible.
Things didn't go according to plan for me,had trained very well and everything pointed towards a sub 4hr Marathon and I was very confident but I unexpectedly cramped badly around half way and it was a bit of a death march from then on. I finished it though and will be back next year.The wife and kids were waiting for me at mile 21 on the Clonskeagh Road and it was great seeing them as I was in a world of pain at that stage.

Don't understand the cramping at all as it never happens in training,and the last time I cramped was in my last Marathon in 2016.
I did an 18 mile Marathon Pace run(9min/mile) about 5 weeks ago and flew through it and 3 weeks ago I did a 20mile run with the final 10 miles at Marathon pace and finished it feeling very fresh and could have ran further. Sunday was just one of those days I suppose,was disappointing but not the end of the world.

Kudos also to formerly of this parish Bingo who finished in an incredible 2:52,he gave me great advice before it and had nice words for me afterwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on October 30, 2018, 10:32:31 AM
Well done to all the marathoners - I don't know how ye do it. Fair play to ye.
Title: FAO Walt Jabsco
Post by: No1 on November 21, 2018, 03:24:31 PM
Let me know if you boys are planning a recce of the Christmas Cracker in December.  I signed up in a moment of madness after swearing blind I'd never do it again!  No way could it be as brutal as last year, could it???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 28, 2018, 10:20:56 AM
Only on sale since November 1st there is 16000 entries sold for Dublin Marathon 2019, they reckon it will be sold out by Christmas as there is only 4000 places  left
It took until May to be sold out for 2018.
First year I did it in 2014 I didn't sign up until 3 months before it and it didn't sell out until early September.
Crazy how popular it has become.
Title: Re: FAO Walt Jabsco
Post by: thebar on November 28, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: No1 on November 21, 2018, 03:24:31 PM
Let me know if you boys are planning a recce of the Christmas Cracker in December.  I signed up in a moment of madness after swearing blind I'd never do it again!  No way could it be as brutal as last year, could it???

I done that last year it was worse than hell parts of that course ground like a bog in parts!
Title: Re: FAO Walt Jabsco
Post by: lfdown2 on November 28, 2018, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: thebar on November 28, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: No1 on November 21, 2018, 03:24:31 PM
Let me know if you boys are planning a recce of the Christmas Cracker in December.  I signed up in a moment of madness after swearing blind I'd never do it again!  No way could it be as brutal as last year, could it???

I done that last year it was worse than hell parts of that course ground like a bog in parts!

I hear rumours this years is solely confined to the park due to the costs required for running on public roads. Missed last years and will miss this years due to wedding anniversary, pity as would do a lot of my running in the park
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
No.1 I will have a word with the Prophet to see what  the recee arrangements are and let you know. Will probably be doing sweeper again no training required just warm clothes and a thick skin if last year was anything to go by. There was no running involved only walking as the tailenders  were close to 3 hours and that was after rerouting them. Are you doing with Rinty?

Yes rumours are correct mostly in the Park but still could be brutal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
No.1 I will have a word with the Prophet to see what  the recee arrangements are and let you know. Will probably be doing sweeper again no training required just warm clothes and a thick skin if last year was anything to go by. There was no running involved only walking as the tailenders  were close to 3 hours and that was after rerouting them. Are you doing with Rinty?

Yes rumours are correct mostly in the Park but still could be brutal

Link?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on November 28, 2018, 02:20:09 PM
http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=13260 (http://www.newcastleac.org/?page_id=13260)

Sold out!

Thanks Walt.  I'm supposed to be doing it with GK, Rinty is running with Scully (if he returns from Oz)!

Hurt the calf yesterday so I'll just have to play it by ear.  Haven't made to the start line of any race I've entered this year, I think my body is trying to tell me something.  >:(

New legislation and costs for racing on the road are ridiculous.  Lots of decent races fell by the wayside this year.  Don't know how councils square it with their Health & Well Being policies.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 02:21:07 PM
MR2 the quirky concept of the Cracker is that the route changes every year along with being a pairs race and everyone wants to know the route to recce to get a guide time. Are you thinking of entering as the quota of 700 pairs has been reached
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
Changes to the team makeup is allowed up to a cut off date(usually Christmas Eve), just fill in the form on the website with the changes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 02:21:07 PM
MR2 the quirky concept of the Cracker is that the route changes every year along with being a pairs race and everyone wants to know the route to recce to get a guide time. Are you thinking of entering as the quota of 700 pairs has been reached

Thats a shame, thats the type of thing that I'm looking into now, getting stale with going to the gym and while I'm still involved with GAA though no playing role, I havent the time for triathlon training anymore but running is handier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebar on November 28, 2018, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 02:21:07 PM
MR2 the quirky concept of the Cracker is that the route changes every year along with being a pairs race and everyone wants to know the route to recce to get a guide time. Are you thinking of entering as the quota of 700 pairs has been reached

Thats a shame, thats the type of thing that I'm looking into now, getting stale with going to the gym and while I'm still involved with GAA though no playing role, I havent the time for triathlon training anymore but running is handier!

Keep an eye out anyhow Milltown not uncommon for a few places to come up closer to the event due to few teams dropping out.
Title: Re: FAO Walt Jabsco
Post by: Orior on November 28, 2018, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on November 28, 2018, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: thebar on November 28, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: No1 on November 21, 2018, 03:24:31 PM
Let me know if you boys are planning a recce of the Christmas Cracker in December.  I signed up in a moment of madness after swearing blind I'd never do it again!  No way could it be as brutal as last year, could it???

I done that last year it was worse than hell parts of that course ground like a bog in parts!

I hear rumours this years is solely confined to the park due to the costs required for running on public roads. Missed last years and will miss this years due to wedding anniversary, pity as would do a lot of my running in the park

There are not many things better than getting your first pair of cross-country spikes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
Leave the XC spikes at home for this one. Trail/Fell shoes more suited
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2018, 02:35:02 PM
Anybody have a running watch which they can pair with wireless headphones?

I have been looking at the garmin. 645 which it seems you can use spotify wit though some reviews aren't fantastic.

There's also the fenix 5 but it is a bit dear.

I've only used garmin for running watches before. Any other watches with this capability outside of garmin that people use?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2018, 07:33:46 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on November 28, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
Leave the XC spikes at home for this one. Trail/Fell shoes more suited

What a well run event Walt, fair play to you and the rest of helpers that were able to drag my better half around a very tough course!

Avoided divorce this year, will work on getting a fitter partner next time, would love to give that course a rattle..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 29, 2018, 09:44:10 PM
Registration for the Giants Causeway xtreme marathon is now open for September 2019. A tough grinding course with hills, steps, beaches and a climb over rocks. Not for the ill prepared but the scenery will make it worth it.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 29, 2018, 09:47:24 PM
Glad you enjoyed but next year as it has been every year it will be a different course no two courses have been the same.
Didn't get to see No.1 on my travels.  Well No.1 how did you find it I seen you placed well
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 30, 2018, 03:45:54 PM
Super event as usual Walt. Tough course but conditions underfoot much kinder than last year. Thought soup was across the road from the GAA club and dandered down there afterwards. Had to make do with Guinness instead!! What time did you get the last pair home at?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 30, 2018, 04:05:41 PM
2:23 - for the last pair and 0:53 for the first pair
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2018, 04:28:41 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on December 30, 2018, 04:05:41 PM
2:23 - for the last pair and 0:53 for the first pair

53 was some finish.. regardless of the conditions the hills alone would have punctured most.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 30, 2018, 08:11:03 PM
53 minutes?? That's nearly 6 minute miles? On that course? f**king unreal!! I assume it was Zak Hanna and partner? He was in the club afterwards with the cup.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 30, 2018, 08:26:39 PM
Yes Zak Hanna and  Seamus Lynch were the first pair home both are Irish Internationals with Seamus  the current Irish Mountain Running Champion Zak is no slouch either with winning the Irish Novice XC Champs a couple of weeks ago and a 7th place at  Snowdon in July. Two exceptional athletes
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 22, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
Anyone recommend a good running book that covers running techniques, preparing  for races etc. Got a book that covered the basics with regards to training programs for different distances. But it's geared more towards general training rather than races and how to adapt training coming up to a race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on January 22, 2019, 10:55:41 PM
Being running for years and an issue coming up last few weeks is getting a stitch. How can I stop this or what is the cause?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Is your water intake or food intake any different coming up to runs? I haven't really had this problem however I have heard people drinking too much water beforehand and things like that.

In terms of books trueblue there's a guy called Lydiard that I know several people who would be pretty strong runners swear by. He has a book but the reviews aren't fantastic. Reading round his training principles may be of interest though to begin with.

An example link:
http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles (http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles)

(It's the basic pyramid theory where you build a base then work your way up the pyramid)



Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 23, 2019, 10:44:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Is your water intake or food intake any different coming up to runs? I haven't really had this problem however I have heard people drinking too much water beforehand and things like that.

In terms of books trueblue there's a guy called Lydiard that I know several people who would be pretty strong runners swear by. He has a book but the reviews aren't fantastic. Reading round his training principles may be of interest though to begin with.

An example link:
http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles (http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles)

(It's the basic pyramid theory where you build a base then work your way up the pyramid)

Thanks for that. Will have a look. Yeah I'm currently doing the Heart Monitoring Training for the Complete idiot and it's been good regarding building up the base and taking proper recovery and not going too hard on the recovery days. Have managed to get the mileage up significantly in the last 3 weeks. (Not that hard considering I was going from a standing start!!). But really starting to get into it now and want to see out this 12 program but would like to tailor the last couple of weeks to try and do a race to get a rough starting point.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:52:57 AM
Yeah I would swear by the heart rate book too. Disciplined tempo running (i.e. to within the ranges specified in that book) is very beneficial to racing. Not sure if that is in your program or not.

I would be slightly injury prone so my go to would be hills and tempo before the shorter interval stuff but it's whatever suits best. The hills and tempo before short stuff would help your base though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 23, 2019, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:52:57 AM
Yeah I would swear by the heart rate book too. Disciplined tempo running (i.e. to within the ranges specified in that book) is very beneficial to racing. Not sure if that is in your program or not.

I would be slightly injury prone so my go to would be hills and tempo before the shorter interval stuff but it's whatever suits best. The hills and tempo before short stuff would help your base though.

Yes usually a tempo run or intervals or hill runs at least once a week. At the minute it tends to be 2 hard days a week and 4 recovery with one day off. Struggling to do the hill runs as live in the country and dark by the time I get home and usually head into Omagh for the tempo run under lights but struggle to get a good hill that's lit well enough for hill runs. Seems to be very against going out and blasting a 10K tho and that that should only be done on occasion. Which I find hard as would like to try and go out and see what sort of times I was doing.  Very different to how I would have ran in the past. (Gone for a run a couple of times a week at full tilt).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on January 23, 2019, 12:01:48 PM
I'll have to start back over the weekend. I've enough additional timber to build a nice sized shed.  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 12:11:48 PM
No harm in blasting the odd one trueblue but it's funny that you end up running a lot slower and you end up getting a lot fast (at the beginning anyway).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2019, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:52:57 AM
Yeah I would swear by the heart rate book too. Disciplined tempo running (i.e. to within the ranges specified in that book) is very beneficial to racing. Not sure if that is in your program or not.

I would be slightly injury prone so my go to would be hills and tempo before the shorter interval stuff but it's whatever suits best. The hills and tempo before short stuff would help your base though.
What do you find are the best, long hill climbs or short sharp hill repeats ?
Just started doing hill repeats myself. Doing about 7 x 250mt repeats but the hills aren't that sharp, maybe a 3 or 4% incline.
There is a hill near me that is possibly only 80-90 meters but is probably 12-13 % or more incline.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on January 23, 2019, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 22, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
Anyone recommend a good running book that covers running techniques, preparing  for races etc. Got a book that covered the basics with regards to training programs for different distances. But it's geared more towards general training rather than races and how to adapt training coming up to a race.

This website is great for all things running

http://fellrnr.com/wiki/Main_Page
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2019, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 23, 2019, 10:44:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Is your water intake or food intake any different coming up to runs? I haven't really had this problem however I have heard people drinking too much water beforehand and things like that.

In terms of books trueblue there's a guy called Lydiard that I know several people who would be pretty strong runners swear by. He has a book but the reviews aren't fantastic. Reading round his training principles may be of interest though to begin with.

An example link:
http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles (http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles)

(It's the basic pyramid theory where you build a base then work your way up the pyramid)

Thanks for that. Will have a look. Yeah I'm currently doing the Heart Monitoring Training for the Complete idiot and it's been good regarding building up the base and taking proper recovery and not going too hard on the recovery days. Have managed to get the mileage up significantly in the last 3 weeks. (Not that hard considering I was going from a standing start!!). But really starting to get into it now and want to see out this 12 program but would like to tailor the last couple of weeks to try and do a race to get a rough starting point.
I have that same Heart rate training book. I must have started training by HR 5 or 6 times now and can never stick with it.
I recently bought one of these  https://www.stryd.com
The concept is training by power rather than pace or HR.
It is very similar to HR training in so much as you have different zones for different types of runs ie tempo and easy runs etc.Have to say I like it and am sticking to it more than I did with HR training.  I also use it on the treadmill when running on Zwift which is great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Clov on January 23, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Some evidence against the usefulness of tempo runs

http://fellrnr.com/wiki/Tempo_Runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
Tempo runs are hugely beneficial so I wouldn't believe much of that...

Maybe at the elite end you need to be looking at lactate tolerance and stuff like that but they are very beneficial particularly starting out.

I have always found myself very responsive to them and until I started doing them I couldn't break 39 in a 10k then after 4 weeks of them I broke 38.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 02:25:42 PM

Maybe at the elite end you need to be looking at lactate tolerance and stuff like that but they are very beneficial particularly starting out.

I have always found myself very responsive to them and until I started doing them I couldn't break 39 in a 10k then after 4 weeks of them I broke 38.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 23, 2019, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
Tempo runs are hugely beneficial so I wouldn't believe much of that...

Maybe at the elite end you need to be looking at lactate tolerance and stuff like that but they are very beneficial particularly starting out.

I have always found myself very responsive to them and until I started doing them I couldn't break 39 in a 10k then after 4 weeks of them I broke 38.

What sort of run do you do for a tempo run? Was doing 2 mile warm up, 2 mile done at race pace and then 1-2 mile warm down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2019, 07:38:39 AM
Four miles in the middle at max 85% heart rate.

Slower than race pace. Probably 15 or 20 seconds a mile. Race pace too quick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on January 24, 2019, 08:50:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Is your water intake or food intake any different coming up to runs? I haven't really had this problem however I have heard people drinking too much water beforehand and things like that.

In terms of books trueblue there's a guy called Lydiard that I know several people who would be pretty strong runners swear by. He has a book but the reviews aren't fantastic. Reading round his training principles may be of interest though to begin with.

An example link:
http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles (http://www.runningwizard.com/lydiard-principles)

(It's the basic pyramid theory where you build a base then work your way up the pyramid)

My water and food intake hasn't changed. Anyway to prevent stitching?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 13, 2019, 10:26:35 AM
Looking a bit of advise. Want to ditch the phone now when running but want to listen to music. I've looked at a few MP3 type things that seem a lot lighter than a Iphone and you can download to. Was potentially just looking at the Scandisk Clip jam or the AGPTEK E02. Ideally would like one that picks up radio as well.

Anyone any recommendations?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2019, 04:23:08 PM
Laura Muir's mile run there now. 4.18!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
Two bronzes tonight. Great 1500 by Mageean - pity she just couldn't hold on for that silver.

English getting back to best too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 11:08:13 AM
Anyone doing the Omagh half marathon in three weeks? I did it last year for the first time and was really enjoyable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on March 18, 2019, 02:26:18 PM
Yea doing it. Ran 13 miles last week as a test, so have hit the target. Longest run i have done. Has took me a year to get to this point.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM
Am signed up but did the Bundoran 10 mile last weekend and having trouble with glute and lower back. Haven't been able to run since. Any one ever have problem with their Sacroiliac joints? From some light reading think this might be the issue. Need to get it looked at but struggling to get time.
Q
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 18, 2019, 04:57:22 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 18, 2019, 02:26:18 PM
Yea doing it. Ran 13 miles last week as a test, so have hit the target. Longest run i have done. Has took me a year to get to this point.
Fair play,  great progress. Oh and once you can run a half you can run a full...!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Linkbox on March 18, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM
Am signed up but did the Bundoran 10 mile last weekend and having trouble with glute and lower back. Haven't been able to run since. Any one ever have problem with their Sacroiliac joints? From some light reading think this might be the issue. Need to get it looked at but struggling to get time.
Q

Nothing worse than niggling injuries that screw up your training block. I've really struggled over the past few months with a combination of things. The physio will see point you in the right direction but working on some fundamentals will do you no harm. I've been following these guys on Instagram for a while and they post some great stretches for hips, lower back etc. Getting as much flexibility in those areas as possible will help you a lot.

https://www.instagram.com/brian_movement101/?hl=en

This guy also does a lot of focused exercises that should help you.

https://www.instagram.com/dr.giardina.dpt/

This one being specific to your injury.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuJuOpnh8jS/

Good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 19, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Linkbox on March 18, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM
Am signed up but did the Bundoran 10 mile last weekend and having trouble with glute and lower back. Haven't been able to run since. Any one ever have problem with their Sacroiliac joints? From some light reading think this might be the issue. Need to get it looked at but struggling to get time.
Q

Nothing worse than niggling injuries that screw up your training block. I've really struggled over the past few months with a combination of things. The physio will see point you in the right direction but working on some fundamentals will do you no harm. I've been following these guys on Instagram for a while and they post some great stretches for hips, lower back etc. Getting as much flexibility in those areas as possible will help you a lot.

https://www.instagram.com/brian_movement101/?hl=en

This guy also does a lot of focused exercises that should help you.

https://www.instagram.com/dr.giardina.dpt/

This one being specific to your injury.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuJuOpnh8jS/

Good luck!

Cheers for that. Have to try and get seen this week. Have only been running since Jan and never had a injury until the week before the Bundoran run, I had a slight twinge in the left calf. So rested it all week and rolled away. But felt it at about 8 miles in the run and think I was trying to carry it and now have screwed up my whole left side. From lower back, down into my glute and hamstring. Nightmare.

Have stayed off it since the run but the half is in 3 weeks so gutted that I can't do anything. If's it's not right by next week I may pull the plug for the half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on March 25, 2019, 10:05:48 AM
2 weeks to go until my first half marathon and the inevitable has happened, went out yesterday to do 10 mile and got to 7 mile and had to stop with the pain in the front of my left hip. Checked online and it looks like my hip flexor is playing up, it is sore today when i walk or go to get up from the chair, I take it all i can do is rest it and stretch it. What would be safe miles to do in the next 2 weeks to get me over the finish line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 26, 2019, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on March 25, 2019, 10:05:48 AM
2 weeks to go until my first half marathon and the inevitable has happened, went out yesterday to do 10 mile and got to 7 mile and had to stop with the pain in the front of my left hip. Checked online and it looks like my hip flexor is playing up, it is sore today when i walk or go to get up from the chair, I take it all i can do is rest it and stretch it. What would be safe miles to do in the next 2 weeks to get me over the finish line.

2 weeks training left. I'm sure you are well capable of the distance at this stage? might be an idea to rest for the 2 weeks. Maybe even get a bit of physio in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 19, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Linkbox on March 18, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM
Am signed up but did the Bundoran 10 mile last weekend and having trouble with glute and lower back. Haven't been able to run since. Any one ever have problem with their Sacroiliac joints? From some light reading think this might be the issue. Need to get it looked at but struggling to get time.
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Nothing worse than niggling injuries that screw up your training block. I've really struggled over the past few months with a combination of things. The physio will see point you in the right direction but working on some fundamentals will do you no harm. I've been following these guys on Instagram for a while and they post some great stretches for hips, lower back etc. Getting as much flexibility in those areas as possible will help you a lot.

https://www.instagram.com/brian_movement101/?hl=en

This guy also does a lot of focused exercises that should help you.

https://www.instagram.com/dr.giardina.dpt/

This one being specific to your injury.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuJuOpnh8jS/

Good luck!

Cheers for that. Have to try and get seen this week. Have only been running since Jan and never had a injury until the week before the Bundoran run, I had a slight twinge in the left calf. So rested it all week and rolled away. But felt it at about 8 miles in the run and think I was trying to carry it and now have screwed up my whole left side. From lower back, down into my glute and hamstring. Nightmare.

Have stayed off it since the run but the half is in 3 weeks so gutted that I can't do anything. If's it's not right by next week I may pull the plug for the half.
How's it now? How far can you go with tolerable level of discomfort...keep at that distance / pace and get it looked at by a professional.
Wild weather that day in bundoran , last mile was crazy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 27, 2019, 12:55:28 PM
Yeah brutal day. Coming in by the beach at the end was cruel way to finish. Blinded by sand!! But was happy enough. First run and was about 1 hr 17. So was happy enough.
Was at physio at the start of the week and apparently my glute is really weak in the left side. So gave me exercises for that, that I've been working on. He advised to stay of the running for a week just in case, as I strengthen it up as it was still fairly tender. But said a week could make a good improvement and should be able to ease myself back into some running then. Frustrating now but chomping to get back running again so would rather take my time as I'm not rushing back for any run in particular now that I've missed the Omagh half.       

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 12:59:13 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 27, 2019, 12:55:28 PM
Yeah brutal day. Coming in by the beach at the end was cruel way to finish. Blinded by sand!! But was happy enough. First run and was about 1 hr 17. So was happy enough.
Was at physio at the start of the week and apparently my glute is really weak in the left side. So gave me exercises for that, that I've been working on. He advised to stay of the running for a week just in case, as I strengthen it up as it was still fairly tender. But said a week could make a good improvement and should be able to ease myself back into some running then. Frustrating now but chomping to get back running again so would rather take my time as I'm not rushing back for any run in particular now that I've missed the Omagh half.     
Ya, mental stuff. Prefer no wind than to have it against you and behind you....

I'd recommend doing a small bit or any type of aerobic acivity after a couple of days rest when things have settled down. Niggles are part of the game unfortunately, everything will be sound and you'll be stronger for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 27, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Have you a Marathon coming up ballinaman? You're putting in some miles on Strava.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 27, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Have you a Marathon coming up ballinaman? You're putting in some miles on Strava.
Manchester 7th April...doing a bit alright , looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 07, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 27, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Have you a Marathon coming up ballinaman? You're putting in some miles on Strava.
Manchester 7th April...doing a bit alright , looking forward to it.
Well done today, great running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 07, 2019, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 07, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 27, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Have you a Marathon coming up ballinaman? You're putting in some miles on Strava.
Manchester 7th April...doing a bit alright , looking forward to it.
Well done today, great running.
Cheers chief , walked a tightrope last 2 mile as to be expected but got the job done. !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on April 07, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on April 07, 2019, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 07, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 27, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Have you a Marathon coming up ballinaman? You're putting in some miles on Strava.
Manchester 7th April...doing a bit alright , looking forward to it.
Well done today, great running.
Cheers chief , walked a tightrope last 2 mile as to be expected but got the job done. !

What a run! Congrats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 07, 2019, 10:38:01 PM
Savage work Ballinaman
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2019, 10:08:28 AM
BM with an engine like that surely you could do a job in the HF line for Mayo ;D

Fantastic time. Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on April 08, 2019, 02:24:51 PM
Congrats, savage running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 28, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
Irish girl currently leading in London - Sinead Diver from Belmullet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2019, 10:23:27 AM
Watching now. Be surprised if she holds on but it would be phenomenal if she did.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on April 28, 2019, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 28, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
Irish girl currently leading in London - Sinead Diver from Belmullet.

Commentators said she was Australian.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2019, 11:56:26 AM
223 finish.

She runs for Australia - has lived there for years. We still claim her though :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 28, 2019, 05:18:04 PM
This is brilliant  ;D
https://www.facebook.com/71506449747/posts/10156733556559748/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on April 28, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 28, 2019, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 28, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
Irish girl currently leading in London - Sinead Diver from Belmullet.

Commentators said she was Australian.

she runs in their vest but she's irish. same as farah is from somalia but runs for england.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 29, 2019, 09:58:09 AM
Quote from: Rois on April 28, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
Irish girl currently leading in London - Sinead Diver from Belmullet.

Is she one of the Muff Divers from Donegal?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 05, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
Anyone do Belfast today? New route seems like a fast one
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
Apology released by Belfast city marathon company. It was half a mile long!!

I did leg 4. Very hilly and I am not in great shape these days so got through it but good craic all the same.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
Story on bbc news now. Muppets lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 05, 2019, 03:48:35 PM
Some very angry local residents along Cliftonville Road, because the end of their street was blocked. They could have turned and went then other way.

The Waterworks paths were a bit tight for some runners.

Damn cold day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 05, 2019, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
Apology released by Belfast city marathon company. It was half a mile long!!

I did leg 4. Very hilly and I am not in great shape these days so got through it but good craic all the same.
Just reading that now!
https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48169540
Hard enough run one without it being long!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on May 05, 2019, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
Apology released by Belfast city marathon company. It was half a mile long!!

I did leg 4. Very hilly and I am not in great shape these days so got through it but good craic all the same.

Sounds like the route was measured ok, but the runners were twice misdirected off the course

Few friends ran it and said the new route was far better. Hearing the bag collection was a nightmare though, an hour to collect a bag. Maybe not prepared for the increase in numbers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2019, 10:39:47 AM
It's a step in the right direction anyway though quite a few unhappy with distance as it means they couldn't get good for age for London and then I think the first local was looking for world or commonwealth(or one of the majors) qualifying time.

I did fourth leg and have never seen crowds like it out in the streets. I started around the 3h50+ mark and have to say I felt sorry for some of the full marathon runners round me as quite a few had to stop and walk it was so hilly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 06, 2019, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on May 05, 2019, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
Apology released by Belfast city marathon company. It was half a mile long!!

I did leg 4. Very hilly and I am not in great shape these days so got through it but good craic all the same.

Sounds like the route was measured ok, but the runners were twice misdirected off the course

Few friends ran it and said the new route was far better. Hearing the bag collection was a nightmare though, an hour to collect a bag. Maybe not prepared for the increase in numbers

Sad for the guys who needed a time to qualify for the London marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2019, 12:14:30 PM
It was the first of a new run, I'm sure there will be some tweaks here and there to improve it, 2-18 is long though for the winner. Belfast can be hilly enough and a logistical nightmare but it's a crime for it to be measured incorrectly, if that was the case!

Though I must say with all the weaving about over 26.2 miles your Garmin may have it longer, as was the case for me in Amsterdam
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2019, 12:28:46 PM
It wasn't the measurement of it. Lead car went wrong way and then so did everybody else!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 06, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2019, 10:39:47 AM
It's a step in the right direction anyway though quite a few unhappy with distance as it means they couldn't get good for age for London and then I think the first local was looking for world or commonwealth(or one of the majors) qualifying time.

I did fourth leg and have never seen crowds like it out in the streets. I started around the 3h50+ mark and have to say I felt sorry for some of the full marathon runners round me as quite a few had to stop and walk it was so hilly.
I had a look at the map and apart from the Springfield Road/West Belfast secyion I couldn't really identify any "hilly" parts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2019, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 06, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 06, 2019, 10:39:47 AM
It's a step in the right direction anyway though quite a few unhappy with distance as it means they couldn't get good for age for London and then I think the first local was looking for world or commonwealth(or one of the majors) qualifying time.

I did fourth leg and have never seen crowds like it out in the streets. I started around the 3h50+ mark and have to say I felt sorry for some of the full marathon runners round me as quite a few had to stop and walk it was so hilly.
I had a look at the map and apart from the Springfield Road/West Belfast secyion I couldn't really identify any "hilly" parts.

Finaghy?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: marty34 on May 06, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
Can they not adjust your time to make it a proper marathon time?

With today's technology, they should be fit to do that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Nanderson on May 06, 2019, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 06, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
Can they not adjust your time to make it a proper marathon time?

With today's technology, they should be fit to do that.
That is what they have done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2019, 07:59:18 PM
They took 2 minutes away from everyone's time. Same for everyone. I think that has annoyed people more lol.

The 2nd mile of the 4th leg was bloody hilly. The last 3 were a good bit downhill though so for relay runners not that big a deal but at 17 mile in a marathon when you're struggling already it looked rough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on May 07, 2019, 10:06:19 AM
I ended up doing the last 2 legs of the marathon as part of a relay team. I would have cried at mile 17 if i had of being doing the full thing. Not so much as the steepness but it was a drag of a climb. Change over points for the relay were a bit of a shambles but i'm sure lessons will have been learned.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 07, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
Anyone suffer from lower back pains when running (And even when not)? I haven't really been doing any core stuff along side the running and I think it's starting to cause these lower back pains so want to try and do a bit to see if it helps alleviate the pains . But have to admit I find the core exercises really boring. Unsure how much time I should be committing to it? Whether it's do a few stretches/ exercises every day or do a 30 min session 1-2 a week. Any advise would be welcome. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2019, 10:18:34 AM
I had to give up running because of my back. A slight curvature in my spine meant my back tries to compensate, using one leg more than the other. Took years to diagnose it.

But everyone is different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 07, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
Anyone suffer from lower back pains when running (And even when not)? I haven't really been doing any core stuff along side the running and I think it's starting to cause these lower back pains so want to try and do a bit to see if it helps alleviate the pains . But have to admit I find the core exercises really boring. Unsure how much time I should be committing to it? Whether it's do a few stretches/ exercises every day or do a 30 min session 1-2 a week. Any advise would be welcome.

Yeah. I find things with my lower back in running are generally a reflection of very tight hip flexors so end up doing a lot of stretching on them. Hip flexors are key in holding pelvis etc in position when running so stretching them a lot, especially if in a desk job, makes a big difference to running (for me anyway).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2019, 11:33:10 AM
Its old age!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on May 07, 2019, 02:53:58 PM
Dead lifting will sort your back out. Have been doing this along with the running and it has sorted my back
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 07, 2019, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on May 07, 2019, 02:53:58 PM
Dead lifting will sort your back out. Have been doing this along with the running and it has sorted my back
Not necessarily
Usually single leg exercises are better
And swinging movements to get the hips moving better
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on May 16, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Has anyone ever done an ultramarathon? I turn forty in August 2020 and I've a mad notion of doing one to celebrate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2019, 10:17:46 PM
Have you done a marathon yet?? Never done an ultra or had any aspirations to do one!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on May 16, 2019, 11:00:43 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 16, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Has anyone ever done an ultramarathon? I turn forty in August 2020 and I've a mad notion of doing one to celebrate.
Celebrate!! Jesus just go to Vegas!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2019, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 16, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Has anyone ever done an ultramarathon? I turn forty in August 2020 and I've a mad notion of doing one to celebrate.

Are you talking about the 50k or 100k distance? An old mate of mine did an ultra 100k in Scotland, think it's a famous one, he was a runner, ran for years, every day nearly, and built like a runner too. He said it was pain!! And the target is to finish.

There  is a group who run once or twice a month where I live, who start running at 8.30 on a Saturday and some do a marathon and others double up on that! EAS I think they are called, there are runners from all over Ireland running there, I'd imagine they'd be a group to get in touch with
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2019, 08:48:46 AM
You could just do next year's Belfast "marathon"... it might count as an ultra ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on May 17, 2019, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2019, 10:17:46 PM
Have you done a marathon yet?? Never done an ultra or had any aspirations to do one!

Done a few half's. Not a massive fan of road running. Much prefer trail running. Part of the plan is to do the mourns way marathon in the build up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on May 17, 2019, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2019, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 16, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Has anyone ever done an ultramarathon? I turn forty in August 2020 and I've a mad notion of doing one to celebrate.

Are you talking about the 50k or 100k distance? An old mate of mine did an ultra 100k in Scotland, think it's a famous one, he was a runner, ran for years, every day nearly, and built like a runner too. He said it was pain!! And the target is to finish.

There  is a group who run once or twice a month where I live, who start running at 8.30 on a Saturday and some do a marathon and others double up on that! EAS I think they are called, there are runners from all over Ireland running there, I'd imagine they'd be a group to get in touch with

There is one in Tollymore which is 40 miles. I fancy that one if it goes ahead next year as well
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 17, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 17, 2019, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2019, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 16, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Has anyone ever done an ultramarathon? I turn forty in August 2020 and I've a mad notion of doing one to celebrate.

Are you talking about the 50k or 100k distance? An old mate of mine did an ultra 100k in Scotland, think it's a famous one, he was a runner, ran for years, every day nearly, and built like a runner too. He said it was pain!! And the target is to finish.

There  is a group who run once or twice a month where I live, who start running at 8.30 on a Saturday and some do a marathon and others double up on that! EAS I think they are called, there are runners from all over Ireland running there, I'd imagine they'd be a group to get in touch with

There is one in Tollymore which is 40 miles. I fancy that one if it goes ahead next year as well

There's one at the Causeway Coast as well I think that runs along the sea front
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walt Jabsco on May 17, 2019, 01:31:03 PM
Have a wee look at this Tonto

https://www.outdoorsradar.com/ultramarathon/could-you-run-an-ultra/?fbclid=IwAR3l1K9WHVO8sy_0S0lGzqB4Xz_jTL3ZcxqoScY4Exyf0gZoBMnSDbpbwmI
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2019, 02:57:28 PM
Causeway coast, one in wicklow and connemara would be the bigger ones I have heard of. I know a lot of ones have done Connemara though I think there could be a good bit of road running in it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 29, 2019, 07:48:12 PM

Has anyone here experienced Compartement Syndrome? When I try running I have localised pain midway along my right tibia. Initially it was thought to be a stress fracture but an MRI cam back clear. Now Doc is talking Comaprtement. I tried resting for 6 weeks and when I could feel absolutely no pain another 2 weeks. Then it came back as bad as ever after 2 short easy runs. I has messed up the last 5 months. A fracture would have taken less time to heal. Rest is no use. Started innocuous enough. Landed awkwardly on an uneven road surface but was able to continue. Assumed it was just a twinge. got a bit of physio, trained on a bit and actually did a half marathon on it in January but it never settled down.
What to do now?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2019, 09:58:14 PM
Ballina man would know better. Compartment syndrome usually quite far down the list of things could be wrong and from what I hear it's what gets diagnosed when they're at a loss with anything else. If it's any help if it is that I think , or heard, the girl who holds the women's 10k and 5k record might have had compartment syndrome and got over it (post surgery) so if it is that there is a way out.

Have you been to a physio as well as a doctor or is it a specialist?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 30, 2019, 01:49:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2019, 09:58:14 PM
Ballina man would know better. Compartment syndrome usually quite far down the list of things could be wrong and from what I hear it's what gets diagnosed when they're at a loss with anything else. If it's any help if it is that I think , or heard, the girl who holds the women's 10k and 5k record might have had compartment syndrome and got over it (post surgery) so if it is that there is a way out.

Have you been to a physio as well as a doctor or is it a specialist?

Lots of physio ( needling etc). Physio suspected a stress because calf muscles were fine. X-ray followed by MRI. Doctor yes. Have a consultation in Santry on 10th June. No swelling or bruising. Can hop up and down on leg without pain. No pain walking. Kicks in when I try to run? annoying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2019, 09:52:42 AM
I am not sure the exact symptoms of compartment syndrome. A boy I know pretty well thought he had it for about two years then never had any treatment and still ran, though a bit more sporadically for a while, and is now running 32 odd minutes for a 10k. That's really my only reference point for it.

There is an operation for it. I'm sure you've looked at it - it doesn't look overly pleasant I'm afraid. :(

To be honest it's outside the remit of my knowledge but I hope you get sorted. I know only too well about running injuries and how frustrating they can be.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2019, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D

It's the internet JC. We're all experts in every field ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 30, 2019, 02:06:35 PM
Been getting back into the running with a few 10k then the dreaded hip flexor injury. Any advice? I'll admit to not being the best at stretching pre/post run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D

Had a look online and that sounds like what I have alright. What's the best treatment for it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D

Had a look online and that sounds like what I have alright. What's the best treatment for it?

A big gel pack stuck in the freezer every day..........


No, seriously I had to get one operated on up in the Ulster Clinic where a mesh of some sort was sown into me to strengthen whatever sheath of muscle it was I'd torn.

Feckin sore for a few days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 31, 2019, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D

Had a look online and that sounds like what I have alright. What's the best treatment for it?
MRI to confirm structural damage of abdominal wall/conjoint tendon...if large puncture , mesh surgically put in place + rehab x 10-12 weeks.. If no puncture, rehab x 10-12 weeks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 31, 2019, 12:09:16 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 30, 2019, 02:06:35 PM
Been getting back into the running with a few 10k then the dreaded hip flexor injury. Any advice? I'll admit to not being the best at stretching pre/post run.
Majority of running injuries caused by training error...too much too soon and not enough of a gradual adaption to load.
Minimal weak if any evidence that stretching is protective against injury....evidence points to load adaption, sleep, nutrition etc higher up the hierarchical scale....stretching doesn't do any harm but shouldn't be a priority over the above.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macdanger2 on May 31, 2019, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 31, 2019, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 30, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
I've picked up an injury playing tennis and I'm not sure if it's a groin injury (I have the typical symptoms i.e. struggling to sprint, pain down my groin) or a hernia of some sort (pain at the inside of my pelvic bone and sore when I cough/sneeze) or some combination of the two.

Anyway, who should I go to for a diagnosis? Doctor? Physio? Or a sports injury clinic?

No need for any of those, it's a Gilmores groin.

Trust me, I'm an engineer.   ;D

Had a look online and that sounds like what I have alright. What's the best treatment for it?
MRI to confirm structural damage of abdominal wall/conjoint tendon...if large puncture , mesh surgically put in place + rehab x 10-12 weeks.. If no puncture, rehab x 10-12 weeks

Cheers BM
Title: Re: Running
Post by: FermGael on June 04, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Any one any recommendations for a gps watch for keeping an eye on split times ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 04, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: FermGael on June 04, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Any one any recommendations for a gps watch for keeping an eye on split times ?
Just bought the new Garmin Forerunner 245. Previously had the 235. The 245 is a great watch as was the 235 to be fair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 04, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: FermGael on June 04, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Any one any recommendations for a gps watch for keeping an eye on split times ?
Just bought the new Garmin Forerunner 245. Previously had the 235. The 245 is a great watch as was the 235 to be fair.

Is there much of a difference or what added features does the 245 offer? Have the 235 myself and love it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 04, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 04, 2019, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: FermGael on June 04, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Any one any recommendations for a gps watch for keeping an eye on split times ?
Just bought the new Garmin Forerunner 245. Previously had the 235. The 245 is a great watch as was the 235 to be fair.

Is there much of a difference or what added features does the 245 offer? Have the 235 myself and love it.
There are plenty of new features and metrics and stuff on the 245, not sure how many I'll actually pay attention too but I broke my 235 so needed a new watch so opted to stay with the Garmin brand.
The HR sensor is supposed to be better and the Vo2 max estimates are supposed to be more accurate and they have included metrics like stress and training load. Like I said I probably won't use half the stuff but the gps seems pretty spot on as does the HR to be fair which I often thought was a bit dodgy on the 235. They have a music version of the 245 also that allows you to put 500 songs onto the watch but I didn't go for that one.
It doubles up as a smartwatch also so you get notifications on the watch. Battery life is very good.
It also measures something called pulse ox which I knew nothing about, but reading up about it apparently you should be in a range of 95% or above...I have been consistently at 90-92% since I got it and it went as low as 83% one night. I dunno does that mean I'm fcuked or what... :-X
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out

Cheers for the insight.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out

Cheers for the insight.

No probs, move one foot in front of the other and you'll get there.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out

Cheers for the insight.

No probs, move one foot in front of the other and you'll get there.

Would 2 watches help?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 04, 2019, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out

Cheers for the insight.

No probs, move one foot in front of the other and you'll get there.

Would 2 watches help?

Would only weigh you down, you'd need to run and measure the time when you get back home. Saved you a few quid, or you can have my Garmin for free
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Franko on June 04, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
A watch won't make you run better, but knock yourself out

Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
I have the 645 with the music store in it. What are you looking for? Just bog standard GPS or are you wanting more like heart rate etc? You could probably get cheaper just GPS or you could go to the nth degree with loads of running stats (cadence, vertical oscillation and all that stuff if you are in any way interested in that)

I have always went garmin but the likes of suunto are starting to make very viable alternatives.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 05, 2019, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
I have the 645 with the music store in it. What are you looking for? Just bog standard GPS or are you wanting more like heart rate etc? You could probably get cheaper just GPS or you could go to the nth degree with loads of running stats (cadence, vertical oscillation and all that stuff if you are in any way interested in that)

I have always went garmin but the likes of suunto are starting to make very viable alternatives.

Got the 235 at the minute and it has most of what I want (Although the music would definitely be an added bonus). Mainly heart rate and VO2. Can't really fault it too much. Takes an odd head stagger sometimes on the HR. But usually a rinse under the cold tap and turning it off and on again sorts it. But only happened 2 twice in 19 months so not a big issue. But then again I don't know how accurate it is as I'm not comparing the data to anything else. But at my level it does all I want. Was just interested to see what's new and on the go out there now. I like my gadgets.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 10:42:56 AM
Yeah me too. I actually keep a close eye on the cadence so like having it. The 645 is decent - I like it. I am not sure over and above the music it has anything more than the 235 mind. It has the wrist based heart rate monitor - whether the 235 has that or not I am not sure. They say it's not as accurate but to me it's only a guideline anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 05, 2019, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 10:42:56 AM
Yeah me too. I actually keep a close eye on the cadence so like having it. The 645 is decent - I like it. I am not sure over and above the music it has anything more than the 235 mind. It has the wrist based heart rate monitor - whether the 235 has that or not I am not sure. They say it's not as accurate but to me it's only a guideline anyway.

Yeah the 235 has the wrist HM as well. It does cadence  and elevation etc but I don't really bother with those.  As you say I don't treat it as gospel but enough for all I need.

I got a wee USB music player thingy as well. But would have been good to have it in the watch.

Just out of interest, I need a new pair of runners. Have never bothered with the gait analysis before, is it much use? I was always a bit skeptical about it? Or is there anywhere in the west (I'm Omagh) that does it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 05, 2019, 11:14:53 AM
The HRM is certainly more stable on the 245 than the 235 also the vo2 max and race prediction times are more realistic.
I dunno how it measures the stress estimates but during the the Champions League final it had me in the high stress range  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
I wondered about the stress - I suspect it's heart rate. I dunno what other information it is really gathering.

With regard to gait analysis if you can get a place that's good then I'd recommend it but I don't think your bog standard running shop is a good place. It would be more podiatrist or the like. If you're not having any bother I would stick with what you know. (There is a lot of flip flopping on shoe support etc. - I am not even sure where current theory is but if you follow running over the last 20 or so years I think the cycle has been it's all in core stability and hip action etc to it's in the shoes to it's all in core stability to blah blah blah to it's all in the shoes).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
I wondered about the stress - I suspect it's heart rate. I dunno what other information it is really gathering.

With regard to gait analysis if you can get a place that's good then I'd recommend it but I don't think your bog standard running shop is a good place. It would be more podiatrist or the like. If you're not having any bother I would stick with what you know. (There is a lot of flip flopping on shoe support etc. - I am not even sure where current theory is but if you follow running over the last 20 or so years I think the cycle has been it's all in core stability and hip action etc to it's in the shoes to it's all in core stability to blah blah blah to it's all in the shoes).

Hell the new thing is running barefoot , hell of a lot cheaper too. the study showed that there was no improvement in running related injuries with trainers than there is running barefoot, obviously running over glass barefoot will have its problems.

Haile Gebrselassie, the world's fastest marathoner, once said of his early career, "When I wore shoes, it was difficult."

In saying that Ive moved from the Hokka to Nike Zoom Pegasus Turbo
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 01:45:35 PM
I had heard barefoot was now frowned upon. It first went barefoot and then it went hokas which are pretty much no support to about as much support as you could possibly get. Theory on barefoot is muscles aren't conditioned to it so you will breakdown over time. That's what I heard but I have given up reading on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 01:45:35 PM
I had heard barefoot was now frowned upon. It first went barefoot and then it went hokas which are pretty much no support to about as much support as you could possibly get. Theory on barefoot is muscles aren't conditioned to it so you will breakdown over time. That's what I heard but I have given up reading on it.

Its the landing of the feet when bare footed and wearing shoes that the study was taken, most of the African runners would have been running barefoot long before sticking trainers on..

Distance is important to no doubt, different shoes for distances.. I had the basically no support shoe before, wasnt convinced TBH
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2019, 01:45:35 PM
I had heard barefoot was now frowned upon. It first went barefoot and then it went hokas which are pretty much no support to about as much support as you could possibly get. Theory on barefoot is muscles aren't conditioned to it so you will breakdown over time. That's what I heard but I have given up reading on it.

Its the landing of the feet when bare footed and wearing shoes that the study was taken, most of the African runners would have been running barefoot long before sticking trainers on..

Distance is important to no doubt, different shoes for distances.. I had the basically no support shoe before, wasnt convinced TBH

African runners legs are conditioned from early. You take away support you'll be using muscles you've never used before and are more susceptible to injuries as there'll be no strength there. I think that was a conclusion that was developed a while after the craze started.

I know quite a few very "seasoned" runners who swear by the hokas. These would be 45 minutes to an hour a day every day and a few hours a day at the weekend kind of people so maybe that has an impact on the view. I don't like them myself but each to their own.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 06, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
Ross Tucker has a great podcast on the science of sport on running shoes .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?

And the most important question...age?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 24, 2019, 03:46:11 PM
Achillies Tendonitis lads....any tips or tricks, nothing serious right now but it's becoming more and more a problem...sidewards coming down the stairs in the morning etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?

And the most important question...age?

How dare you!  ;D Im two score.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
If you are going downstairs sideways then it's pretty bad. Stretch the calves lots every day (heel drop), if it's bad enough sleep with a plinth (look up on Amazon) and that will lessen tightening in the morning. Get a physio to look at the damage too and when they've parked on it strengthen.

Benny are you sure it wasn't just cramp??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
If you are going downstairs sideways then it's pretty bad. Stretch the calves lots every day (heel drop), if it's bad enough sleep with a plinth (look up on Amazon) and that will lessen tightening in the morning. Get a physio to look at the damage too and when they've parked on it strengthen.

Benny are you sure it wasn't just cramp??

Ice pack has helped. I'm walking on it, just a little sore now.

To be honest, I've never had cramp. At least, not that I was aware of. The calf muscle sticking out a bit at the time, was just a bit freaky. Would cramp look like that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
I used to get it during the night for years. I think it did a bit if I recall correctly.

Is it back to normal now?

Isotonic drinks etc helped (when it was cramp!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 24, 2019, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
If you are going downstairs sideways then it's pretty bad. Stretch the calves lots every day (heel drop), if it's bad enough sleep with a plinth (look up on Amazon) and that will lessen tightening in the morning. Get a physio to look at the damage too and when they've parked on it strengthen.

Benny are you sure it wasn't just cramp??

Just started into that, the old hurling ball into the soles will start later this evening. It's always been manageable in so much that when I'm 'warm' its fine but I feel a notion of snapping during sprints at training these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
I used to get it during the night for years. I think it did a bit if I recall correctly.

Is it back to normal now?

Isotonic drinks etc helped (when it was cramp!)

Now that I think, I do get pain in the foot at night now and again, and the foot locks with really bad pain. Lasts a few seconds. There was not much pain with the calf though, just the muscle sticking out.

Yeah it feels ok now. Will keep up the fluids.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 24, 2019, 04:44:00 PM
Now that the thread's been widen out a little to general injuries. Anyone any experience with pains in their wrists and ankles when going to bed. Used to have it the odd time but has increased a lot lately (I'm putting down to the hot weather). It's not really enough to run to the doctor with as it's more uncomfortable than sore, but starting to impact falling asleep at night. Always feel like I want to crack my wrists.

Someone had mentioned trying CBD oil. Anyone any experience of that either?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 06:10:30 PM
Hmm, not sure TB1234. Could your job or any hobbies be linked to your symptoms? Like repetitive tasks, standing a lot etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?

And the most important question...age?

How dare you!  ;D Im two score.

Lepping around in speedos like a 20 year old will bring pains to various places, I'm sure.  Especially if exceeding the age by 100%.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?

And the most important question...age?

How dare you!  ;D Im two score.

Lepping around in speedos like a 20 year old will bring pains to various places, I'm sure.  Especially if exceeding the age by 100%.

I wasn't exactly lepping about. Nor was I in speedos  ;D

Should we not be allowed in to a pool unless we're under 20?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 11:11:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 24, 2019, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 24, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
Ok, I do run, but I didn't do this running... (couldn't think where else to write this)

Leapt up out of the pool and sat on edge. Looked down, and calf muscle sticking out of me leg. Foot sort of locked. Went back to normal maybe 10-15 seconds later. Sore to walk on. Have ice pack on it now.

Pulled calf muscle, maybe? Any advice?

And the most important question...age?

How dare you!  ;D Im two score.

Lepping around in speedos like a 20 year old will bring pains to various places, I'm sure.  Especially if exceeding the age by 100%.

I wasn't exactly lepping about. Nor was I in speedos  ;D

Should we not be allowed in to a pool unless we're under 20?

Well in excess of the 100% of 20 myself, Benny.  Some things can put a surprising strain on the body as it ages.  I use the steps into a pool now rather than the diving board.  Ditto for exiting.

40 is a kinda significant age to hit.   Things hurt a little at first...then hair appears or disappears at various locations...sure you know the rest.

Good massage can solve a lot of muscular issues, but make sure you get one from a well recommended professional.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
Time to invest in a new pair of runners. Anyone recommend a good set or know of any good offers on at the min?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 27, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
Time to invest in a new pair of runners. Anyone recommend a good set or know of any good offers on at the min?
Hard to go wrong with the Nike Pegasus imo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2019, 04:19:14 PM
Cheers LL. Had narrowed it down to them and Asics GT-2000 7 that I've seen on offer.

Always liked Nike before but was thinking of trying the Asics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 27, 2019, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 27, 2019, 04:19:14 PM
Cheers LL. Had narrowed it down to them and Asics GT-2000 7 that I've seen on offer.

Always liked Nike before but was thinking of trying the Asics.
Are the GT 2000  not a stability shoe?, they might not suit you unless you need the extra support.The Pegasus is a neutral shoe which suits me.
I have a pair of Nike Vomero 14 also which are great, also have a pair of New Balance Beacon which I got on the New Balance website for €70 they are also very good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on September 12, 2019, 10:51:56 PM
Need some help. Training for Dublin marathon and this week I've hit a bit of a wall. Every mile I've ran feels like a battle, a 10 mile steady run tonight was cut short to 7 miles and felt like every step was gonna be my last. My head is losing the battle and the body is sluggish. I'm a fairly competent runner: ran my first marathon last year and have been going well up to this week. Can anyone recommend any podcasts or books specifically aimed at marathon training to help me regain some focus and more importantly give me a boot in the arse!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 13, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 12, 2019, 10:51:56 PM
Need some help. Training for Dublin marathon and this week I've hit a bit of a wall. Every mile I've ran feels like a battle, a 10 mile steady run tonight was cut short to 7 miles and felt like every step was gonna be my last. My head is losing the battle and the body is sluggish. I'm a fairly competent runner: ran my first marathon last year and have been going well up to this week. Can anyone recommend any podcasts or books specifically aimed at marathon training to help me regain some focus and more importantly give me a boot in the arse!

Out of interest have you changed the time of day you train compared to the previous marathon? This is my first time training in the evenings and it has been a torture from day one, add in to that a lack of time has meant the first 6+ weeks were hit and miss for me getting out, have finally got some degree of momentum now but it is going to be a case of getting it done rather than a target time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:01:24 PM
No, training dates and times are consistent, possibly my food and hydration has not been, but shouldn't cause the head fluster I have experienced this week!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on September 13, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:01:24 PM
No, training dates and times are consistent, possibly my food and hydration has not been, but shouldn't cause the head fluster I have experienced this week!

Wiser men than me here but I would say diet and hydration could have a huge impact, and sleep too (although I wouln't have thought it would manifest itself at only 10 mile). I would imagine taking a training day off wouldn't go a great degree of harm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 13, 2019, 03:15:00 PM
Maybe it's just cumulative fatigue?
I know I'm starting to feel the milage in the legs.
I've been hitting 50 mile weeks the last while. Usually a day off or a couple of very easy runs and I'm ok again.  I did find this week a bit of a slog, and I've still to do a 18mile on Sunday.
What kind of milage you doing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
Lfdown 2 - I would count yesterday as a day off based on the fact the run was a write off and won't be doing anything today. I am going to make a conscious effort to clean up the diet now for the remaining weeks.

Laoislad - training load has increased and is definitely a factor. I ran 40 miles  in total last week (Monday - Sunday) and had planned 45 this week but that won't be achieved. Have 20miles to do tomorrow AM as can't get out on Sunday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 13, 2019, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:22:13 PM

Laoislad - training load has increased and is definitely a factor. I ran 40 miles  in total last week (Monday - Sunday) and had planned 45 this week but that won't be achieved. Have 20miles to do tomorrow AM as can't get out on Sunday.
Have you ran Dublin before? I ran the first 15 miles or so of it Sunday as part of a 20 mile run, had forgotten how hilly the first 7 miles are and how much of a drag the Crumlin road is.
Not long left now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on September 13, 2019, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on September 13, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:01:24 PM
No, training dates and times are consistent, possibly my food and hydration has not been, but shouldn't cause the head fluster I have experienced this week!

Wiser men than me here but I would say diet and hydration could have a huge impact, and sleep too (although I wouln't have thought it would manifest itself at only 10 mile). I would imagine taking a training day off wouldn't go a great degree of harm.

Same as that but if it were me I'd be looking at hydration, diet and sleep.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 13, 2019, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:22:13 PM

Laoislad - training load has increased and is definitely a factor. I ran 40 miles  in total last week (Monday - Sunday) and had planned 45 this week but that won't be achieved. Have 20miles to do tomorrow AM as can't get out on Sunday.
Have you ran Dublin before? I ran the first 15 miles or so of it Sunday as part of a 20 mile run, had forgotten how hilly the first 7 miles are and how much of a drag the Crumlin road is.
Not long left now.

Ran it last year and achieved my target time of sub 3.30 fairly comfortably, hoping to better it this year. Fingers crossed it's just a bad week!

But definitely going to nail the diet, hydration and sleep from now on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on September 14, 2019, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 13, 2019, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 13, 2019, 03:22:13 PM

Laoislad - training load has increased and is definitely a factor. I ran 40 miles  in total last week (Monday - Sunday) and had planned 45 this week but that won't be achieved. Have 20miles to do tomorrow AM as can't get out on Sunday.
Have you ran Dublin before? I ran the first 15 miles or so of it Sunday as part of a 20 mile run, had forgotten how hilly the first 7 miles are and how much of a drag the Crumlin road is.
Not long left now.

Ran it last year and achieved my target time of sub 3.30 fairly comfortably, hoping to better it this year. Fingers crossed it's just a bad week!

But definitely going to nail the diet, hydration and sleep from now on.

try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEPzn459L6M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEPzn459L6M)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2019, 10:01:51 PM
Mageean through to the final - brilliant stuff. I doubt she'll be anywhere near a medal but final a great achievement.

Hassan will win it and she's up to her neck in it :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 03, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
Ran the Giants Causeway xtreme marathon on Saturday past. It was my tenth marathon and by far the most challenging.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on October 03, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
Ran the Giants Causeway xtreme marathon on Saturday past. It was my tenth marathon and by far the most challenging.

Few friends did the ultra also, top drawer stuff. that's a difficult but beautiful run
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on October 04, 2019, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2019, 10:01:51 PM
Mageean through to the final - brilliant stuff. I doubt she'll be anywhere near a medal but final a great achievement.

Hassan will win it and she's up to her neck in it :-\


There was some shock in the Stadium when Naser won the 400 metres well ahead of the favourite.

No one would say it but you get the impression there is a lot to suspect about her performance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2019, 09:37:38 AM
Mageean will be well beat by Hassan in the final too who is probably up to her neck in it >:(

Athletics not in a good shape. Coe not the man for the job at all. Just like a Tory he is too fond of the money :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 11, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Anyone else going to watch the sub 2hr attempt tomorrow?
Will be live on YouTube.
https://www.ineos159challenge.com/news/date-set-for-eliud-kipchoges-sub-2-hour-marathon-attempt-saturday-12th-october/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on October 11, 2019, 01:09:12 PM
Just something I noted recently...

Ran a mile on the treadmill, wasn't sprinting like a mad eejit, but at a good pace. Think I did around 9 minutes. And just realised yer man Bannister must have been going at a mental speed when he broke the 4 minute mile.

I'm sure someone's done it faster since. Anyone know the current mile record?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2019, 01:32:15 PM
A mere 3:43...

I have broke 5 a few times a good while ago but suspect BM does that in most races lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
9km to go and he is 10 seconds under the target. Looks like he is gonna do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 12, 2019, 09:15:59 AM
1:59:40  :o
Unreal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2019, 09:24:59 AM
Getting under 4 hours is a decent target! This is something else
Title: Re: Running
Post by: grounded on October 12, 2019, 09:27:32 AM
Just incredible. It looked effortless for him. He has such a relaxed fluid running style. Great to be alive to see this.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on October 12, 2019, 10:46:13 AM
A happier result than the first Marathon. Less than 2 hours. WOW.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 12, 2019, 12:03:08 PM
Some level of fitness there, pacemakers make a big difference to keep you going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Square Ball on October 12, 2019, 12:06:55 PM
What a run, average pace of 13.1 mph🤯
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on October 12, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
What's the point anymore f**king 2 hour Nike advert how can we believe this either??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: yellowcard on October 12, 2019, 02:17:32 PM
Didn't even look out of breadth after the race in what some have heralded as one of the greatest endurance feat ever. Not normal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 12, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
Look forward to seeing him do it in a proper race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Look forward to him against Bekele in a major more than anything. Sub 2 won't happen for real for a long long time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 12, 2019, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Look forward to him against Bekele in a major more than anything. Sub 2 won't happen for real for a long long time.
It seemed pretty real today! I know what you mean though by for real ie race conditions/rules etc but he still had to cover the distance today. Do you think say in 50 years and let's just guess the 2hr will have been broken in a proper race 5 or 6 or whatever number of times by then that Kipchoge won't be remembered as the first person to break it?
I think he will.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 07:50:08 PM
Yeah didn't mean that to come across as it was a fake lol.

Yeah he will always be remembered for breaking it, what I'm saying is the first person to do it in a race now won't be remembered so much.

Great achievement which I honestly don't mean to take away from by saying that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2019, 07:40:42 PM
New womens world record in Chicago today. Bad few weeks for Radcliffe lol.

Lots of furore around the shoes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on October 17, 2019, 09:35:56 PM
Would Underarmour be good for keeping warm for winter running?

Track bottoms I'm fine with, but feel the cold more in the top half, and don't want to wear too many layers for that. Wasn't sure if that underarmour (or similar) is more for warmth or keeping cool?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
They do some good base layers. Themselves and helly Hansen. I ran in the helly Hansen the time it was -13 so they are pretty good too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
Do ye not warm up after a mile or so? Maybe not at -13 granted but in normal cold weather?
I never wear anything other than shorts and at most a long sleeve running top. Tried some base layers once and felt like ripping them off after a few miles as I was too warm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 17, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
Do ye not warm up after a mile or so? Maybe not at -13 granted but in normal cold weather?
I never wear anything other than shorts and at most a long sleeve running top. Tried some base layers once and felt like ripping them off after a few miles as I was too warm.
You'll be getting the girls (and some fellas) all in a fluster.  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 17, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
Do ye not warm up after a mile or so? Maybe not at -13 granted but in normal cold weather?
I never wear anything other than shorts and at most a long sleeve running top. Tried some base layers once and felt like ripping them off after a few miles as I was too warm.
You'll be getting the girls (and some fellas) all in a fluster.  ;D
Aye I'm a real Adonis plodding along at 9 min miles sweating buckets no matter the temperature!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2019, 08:26:01 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 18, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 17, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
Do ye not warm up after a mile or so? Maybe not at -13 granted but in normal cold weather?
I never wear anything other than shorts and at most a long sleeve running top. Tried some base layers once and felt like ripping them off after a few miles as I was too warm.
You'll be getting the girls (and some fellas) all in a fluster.  ;D
Aye I'm a real Adonis plodding along at 9 min miles sweating buckets no matter the temperature!

;D

Surely you need them in snow and freezing pouring rain though??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2019, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2019, 08:26:01 AM
Quote from: laoislad on October 18, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 17, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
Do ye not warm up after a mile or so? Maybe not at -13 granted but in normal cold weather?
I never wear anything other than shorts and at most a long sleeve running top. Tried some base layers once and felt like ripping them off after a few miles as I was too warm.
You'll be getting the girls (and some fellas) all in a fluster.  ;D
Aye I'm a real Adonis plodding along at 9 min miles sweating buckets no matter the temperature!

;D

Surely you need them in snow and freezing pouring rain though??

Might throw on a pair of gloves that be about it.
I don't feel the cold as much as most.I think I'm conditioned to it from years of working outside, not as much any more but I would have back in the day. Believe me when you are wiring 30 fluorescent lights in a cattle shed on a freezing winter morning you soon get used to the cold.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on October 22, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
excitement/trepidation building now...had bad start to the training and blew up on my 2nd 20 miler but fuk it at this stage. Just need to settle on a strategy!

Anyway, staying down Saturday & Sunday, have a Airbnb on Tara St - any idea where would be best to park? Probably end up with a QPark or similar, not cheap but unless any of ye have any advise I would say there's little option.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 22, 2019, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 22, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
excitement/trepidation building now...had bad start to the training and blew up on my 2nd 20 miler but fuk it at this stage. Just need to settle on a strategy!

Anyway, staying down Saturday & Sunday, have a Airbnb on Tara St - any idea where would be best to park? Probably end up with a QPark or similar, not cheap but unless any of ye have any advise I would say there's little option.
Yep getting close now. Looking forward to it with both dread and excitement myself.
Weather forecast seems good also.
Have never put as many miles into training so hopefully it pays off come sunday afternoon around mile 20!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 22, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 22, 2019, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on October 22, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
excitement/trepidation building now...had bad start to the training and blew up on my 2nd 20 miler but fuk it at this stage. Just need to settle on a strategy!

Anyway, staying down Saturday & Sunday, have a Airbnb on Tara St - any idea where would be best to park? Probably end up with a QPark or similar, not cheap but unless any of ye have any advise I would say there's little option.
Yep getting close now. Looking forward to it with both dread and excitement myself.
Weather forecast seems good also.
Have never put as many miles into training so hopefully it pays off come sunday afternoon around mile 20!

Glad to see the planned rain doesnt seem like it's going to hit. Best of luck everyone taking part.

Got the flu last couple of days so hoping it will have passed me by the weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 24, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Good luck all lads going on Sunday! Looks like weather will be ideal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 24, 2019, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not too bad, once you get to the real halfway point at 20 miles...the true agony only becomes apparent then... 8)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2019, 12:00:45 PM
Good luck to everyone running. Bearded one if you have done the training you will be fine.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm literally crapping myself. Woke up with a dodgy stomach.  ::)  :-[
Time for some imodium tablets.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 12:08:29 PM
Plenty of training, resulting in plenty of strains, resulting lots of doubt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on October 24, 2019, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm literally crapping myself. Woke up with a dodgy stomach.  ::)  :-[
Time for some imodium tablets.....

Good idea. We can't have you doing a Lineker.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:21:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 24, 2019, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm literally crapping myself. Woke up with a dodgy stomach.  ::)  :-[
Time for some imodium tablets.....

Good idea. We can't have you doing a Lineker.

(https://images.gawker.com/afscuecqn42cpv1comlf/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on October 24, 2019, 01:20:52 PM
Good luck to all runners, did it 4 years ago, a great experience but by feck the last couple of miles were tough going!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on October 24, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:21:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 24, 2019, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 24, 2019, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 24, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Good luck everyone! Absolutely crapping myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm literally crapping myself. Woke up with a dodgy stomach.  ::)  :-[
Time for some imodium tablets.....

Good idea. We can't have you doing a Lineker.

(https://images.gawker.com/afscuecqn42cpv1comlf/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636.jpg)

You dirty fecker, LL  ;D

I bet nobody hugged him at the finish line!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2019, 09:43:54 PM
How did folks get on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 28, 2019, 09:05:53 AM
Finished anyway!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 28, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2019, 09:43:54 PM
How did folks get on?
Well the imodium worked so I didn't shit myself so that was a bonus!

The hat and t shirt have a bit too much blue and navy for my liking!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2019, 11:09:03 AM
Everyone playing their cards close to their chest ;D

Some run by Stephen Scullion for 2nd. Former doper in first too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:27:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2019, 11:09:03 AM
Everyone playing their cards close to their chest ;D

Some run by Stephen Scullion for 2nd. Former doper in first too.

Few friends did it again this year, one finally got under 4 hours the others finished under 3.30

They said the crowds were great. If and it's a big if, I might do Dublin, but feel I'd need to join a running club for the year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 28, 2019, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2019, 11:09:03 AM
Everyone playing their cards close to their chest ;D

Some run by Stephen Scullion for 2nd. Former doper in first too.

Scullion's race was perfectly executed, unreal considering how he ran in Doha about 3 weeks ago!!  I'm not sure he's well liked in the running community but I like the cut of his jib!  His interview afterwards was great!  If he keeps injury free they will have to select him for the Olympics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2019, 11:50:29 AM
I don't know him but know plenty that do. He's a guy with phenomenal talent but a guy that just can't get his "head right". He would tell you that himself and realises that is his problem. I don't know if he's unpopular as such - just viewed more as a loose cannon lol.

He has great talent though and this is really only the first time we have seen it (well aside from London the other year).

I was trying to work out what shoes he was wearing yesterday. I think I read he was wearing the Nike 4% shoes.(I assume they are vaporflys?)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on October 28, 2019, 12:07:35 PM
Yeah that all rings true with what I've heard about him.  I think his podcasts might be worth a listen!

Saw a couple of photos and it looked like the vaporflys painted black to disguise them.  Not sure his sponsors Under Armour will be too impressed with that.

Fair play to him though, they seemed to help!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Yeah that was why I was confused as to what he was wearing as he is sponsored by under armour.

Yeah, if you're round that pace you must be flying anyway but every little helps.

I do wonder was Clohissey wearing them too. If not he might be annoyed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 28, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Got a PB but had a horrible last half an hour, sub 3.25.
Up to mile 22 was comfortable running but then every step was a battle, but that happens a lot of people.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 28, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Got a PB but had a horrible last half an hour, sub 3.25.
Up to mile 22 was comfortable running but then every step was a battle, but that happens a lot of people.

Well done.. was it a mind thing or were you just gassed?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 28, 2019, 03:26:59 PM
A combination of both I think. Once the body started hurting the head started doubting!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on October 28, 2019, 03:26:59 PM
A combination of both I think. Once the body started hurting the head started doubting!

It's when the pacer who you wanted to stay in front of, who's wayyy behind you, starts sprinting past you! That's the killer
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eamonnca1 on October 28, 2019, 04:22:30 PM
I tip my hat to anyone that can do a half marathon or anything longer. I ran a 12k yesterday and it was tough. Took off too quick from the start line and struggled to settle into a rhythm because it's an undulating off-road course. Got passed by a lot of people, didn't pass anyone, which is not how it was for me the last time I did it. Part of it includes climbing down a small cliff, running across a short beach, and going back up the other side, plus doing it again on the way back. I slowed to a crawl in the last mile. Not feeling too bad today though, just need to drink water and stretch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Dublin marathon has moved to a lottery system for next year :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on October 29, 2019, 11:25:17 AM
I wonder how many of the 22,500 entries took to the start line on Sunday? Under 18,000 finished it...it seems to me there isn't much need for a lottery system, more so a need for a transfer timeframe.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:35:11 AM
Agreed. It's pretty poor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Dublin marathon has moved to a lottery system for next year :o
Seen that.
I was hoping to do it again next year which would be 3rd in a row and 5th time in 7 years,would be a shame to miss out after doing it so many times. Should be a system in place that if you have ran it a few times that you are guarenteed an entry or would that be asking too much?
I agree with the Bearded One also.I'm not sure there is even a need for a lottery. I apply for London every year along with 400k others for 50k odd spots.
I doubt Dublin,as good a race as it is, would have even 50k applicants
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on October 29, 2019, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 29, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Dublin marathon has moved to a lottery system for next year :o
Seen that.
I was hoping to do it again next year which would be 3rd in a row and 5th time in 7 years,would be a shame to miss out after doing it so many times. Should be a system in place that if you have ran it a few times that you are guarenteed an entry or would that be asking too much?
I agree with the Bearded One also.I'm not sure there is even a need for a lottery. I apply for London every year along with 400k others for 50k odd spots.
I doubt Dublin,as good a race as it is, would have even 50k applicants

From what I heard the organisers want the lottery to force Dublin city councils hand to either change the route/accomodate more people. Current start/finish area is at capacity.

I'm told from someone who should be a reliable source that two of the committee have a business interest in the Sports travel international company - who sell marathon entry packages. Hopefully it's not going down that route.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2019, 12:25:04 AM
So many spots will be available via the lottery the rest will be made up with charities, that will be the only available entry into the race if you're unlucky enough to not get picked.

I know it's generally booked out most years but I'd say there are not too many disappointments
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2019, 07:48:09 AM
Smells of business trying to plunder what they can get, nice entry fee hike as well likely. Can't see the lottery system lasting as demand will fall after a few years ...so many other options of city marathons available now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2019, 09:07:06 AM
Yeah it's a poor show.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on October 30, 2019, 10:04:15 AM
Farcical decision! How does this work for club members looking to enter the National Marathon Championship, whether it is senior or a masters category? Surely you don't have to go through the ballot system if you have a chance of winning a national medal? At least London has GFA which allows these runners to enter that way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2019, 10:31:05 AM
There is a GFA for athletics Ireland members.

The question is how does that work for athletics NI members as most clubs up here are just affiliated with athletics NI...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on October 30, 2019, 10:48:08 AM
Are the times similar to London? Fair point regarding Athletics NI, surely they will be included in GFA.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2019, 11:22:29 AM
I am not sure re what the times are. I would have thought they'd be a lot less aggressive. London cranked up the GFA times the other year.

On the note of surely athletics NI would be covered noises are suggesting possibly not... I am not sure how well thought through this whole thing is.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 31, 2019, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 29, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Dublin marathon has moved to a lottery system for next year :o
Seen that.
I was hoping to do it again next year which would be 3rd in a row and 5th time in 7 years,would be a shame to miss out after doing it so many times. Should be a system in place that if you have ran it a few times that you are guarenteed an entry or would that be asking too much?
I agree with the Bearded One also.I'm not sure there is even a need for a lottery. I apply for London every year along with 400k others for 50k odd spots.
I doubt Dublin,as good a race as it is, would have even 50k applicants
Well they must have been reading my post  ;D

Anyone who has ran it in past 3 years is now guaranteed an entry.

https://twitter.com/Cathal_Dennehy/status/1189875270280523778?s=19
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2019, 12:31:06 PM
Just saw that. I don't think they thought this whole thing through very well. Still a big question mark on people up here and GFA etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 07, 2019, 01:26:09 PM
https://www.derrynow.com/news/county-derry-post/489624/father-and-son-world-record-breakers.html

A FATHER and son running duo from Co Derry have become world record holders.

Gulladuff man Tommy Hughes (59) and son Eoin (34) smashed the official Guinness World Book of Records' time for the fastest marathon ran by a father and son at the weekend.
The pair achieved the monumental title at Sunday's Frankfurt marathon Germany.
The runners, who only recently started training together, beat the current title holders Graham and Ben Green from Stockton, England by two minutes and 50 seconds after a combined time of 4 hours 59 minutes and 22 seconds.
But it seems the world is not enough for former Olympian Tommy who yesterday told the County Derry Post he already has set his sights on a few other potential record breakers.
"Next year I am 60 so I will be trying to run under 2 hours 30 (minutes), which would be nearly a world record for a 60 year-old," he said.
"If I can keep that time up next year it will also mean that for the last five decades I've been running under 2 hours 30, which I don't think anyone has done either.
"I also think we could get the marathon world record far lower, so we'll probably go back again next year too.
"No rest for the wicked."
Eoin, a dad-of-three who lives in Maghera, added: "It's a great achievement, my dad has always been a great runner so it's great to be a part of this with him.
"I knew it was possible and we got there.
"Now are just waiting on the official confirmation, which may take a while. They have to gather evidence, like pictures from us running the course.
"The hopefully we will make it into February's book."
Eoin only took up running at the age of 31 and regularly trains with his dad who runs a whopping 120 miles a week.
Said Tommy: "It was Eoin's idea to do the world record attempt, he had a brainwave and thought it was possible because we were both in top form.
"So Eoin decided we would have a go at Frankfurt because it seemed like a fast course, and he was right."
Although it is the first time that both Tommy and Eoin have made the headlines together, it is not the first time the electrician himself has made the news for his running achievements.
The Gulladuff grandfather has competed in the 1992 Olympic Games, won the Dublin marathon, the Belfast marathon twice and was even first over the line at the Walled City marathon in 2013, aged 53.
He is also gearing up to run for Ireland in a few weeks.
"I love running and it's great to be part of the running community. I've no plans to stop any time soon. I'll be doing it for as long as I can.
"These achievements are a bonus."
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Tommy Hughes is running sub 230 at I think 59 years old. It's unbelievable. I was told recently his age graded time (you can apply a weighting per age) is a 2:02 marathon aka world record.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 07, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Tommy Hughes is running sub 230 at I think 59 years old. It's unbelievable. I was told recently his age graded time (you can apply a weighting per age) is a 2:02 marathon aka world record.

Some lads are shy with their times for Dublin this year!  :P

Going to gear up for one more, which major city doesn't have a lottery ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on November 08, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 07, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Tommy Hughes is running sub 230 at I think 59 years old. It's unbelievable. I was told recently his age graded time (you can apply a weighting per age) is a 2:02 marathon aka world record.

Some lads are shy with their times for Dublin this year!  :P

Going to gear up for one more, which major city doesn't have a lottery ?

;D ... made a complete balls of it, tbh I knew going in I wasn't where I would wanted to be and really only settled on a plan the night before, went out too hard for the first half (realised I was going harder than planned but ploughed on anyway). Struggled massively for the last 10 mile and got round in 4:19, about 30 min worse than the last time I done it 2017, worst thing about it is that I now have to do another one as I can't leave it at that!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2019, 10:12:42 AM
Paul pollock 210xx in Valencia this morning. 2nd fastest Irish time ever and new ni record.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 02, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Superb time.  Scullion will be raging!! 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2019, 02:47:34 PM
I was thinking that lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Taylor on December 02, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Can anyone recommend any cream for the knees?
Touch of arthritis so thought one of you might be able to recommend something to help loosen them up a bit
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: Taylor on December 02, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Can anyone recommend any cream for the knees?
Touch of arthritis so thought one of you might be able to recommend something to help loosen them up a bit

Go running. Gradual progression of volume or intensity over prolonged period of time (months / years).

https://bmjopensem.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000586
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on December 04, 2019, 11:55:44 AM
The insole of one of my running shoes has detached and keeps slipping/moving and is uncomfortable and annoying when running. Is there any sticky fixer thingys that will hold it back in place to the bottom of my trainer?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Anyone recommend decent ear pieces that'll stay in your ear when running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 06, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Anyone recommend decent ear pieces that'll stay in your ear when running?

Have this problem and the Beats head set is the best as it wraps around the ear, and the plug goes in
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2019, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 04, 2019, 11:55:44 AM
The insole of one of my running shoes has detached and keeps slipping/moving and is uncomfortable and annoying when running. Is there any sticky fixer thingys that will hold it back in place to the bottom of my trainer?
Why not just glue it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on December 07, 2019, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 06, 2019, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 04, 2019, 11:55:44 AM
The insole of one of my running shoes has detached and keeps slipping/moving and is uncomfortable and annoying when running. Is there any sticky fixer thingys that will hold it back in place to the bottom of my trainer?
Why not just glue it?

I thought about that, but thought there'd be a better solution. Not even sure what type of glue would be suitable?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 08, 2019, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 07, 2019, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 06, 2019, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 04, 2019, 11:55:44 AM
The insole of one of my running shoes has detached and keeps slipping/moving and is uncomfortable and annoying when running. Is there any sticky fixer thingys that will hold it back in place to the bottom of my trainer?
Why not just glue it?

I thought about that, but thought there'd be a better solution. Not even sure what type of glue would be suitable?
Some super glue or gorilla glue would work fine I'd say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jim Bob on December 18, 2019, 07:52:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 06, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Anyone recommend decent ear pieces that'll stay in your ear when running?

Have this problem and the Beats head set is the best as it wraps around the ear, and the plug goes in

Agreed. The wireless Beats do the running job well !!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hereiam on December 18, 2019, 09:46:51 PM
Have a broken wrist an have a cast on now. Anyone run with a cast that can provide a few tips.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 01, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
That's it. Enough is enough. I'm gonna do a Belfast Parkrun in the Waterworks at 11am. Keep out of my way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 01, 2020, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 01, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
That's it. Enough is enough. I'm gonna do a Belfast Parkrun in the Waterworks at 11am. Keep out of my way.
Record numbers this morning across Belfast, by all accounts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2020, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Rois on January 01, 2020, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 01, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
That's it. Enough is enough. I'm gonna do a Belfast Parkrun in the Waterworks at 11am. Keep out of my way.
Record numbers this morning across Belfast, by all accounts.

Was going to go but went up Cavehill instead with the dogs! Steady flow of hikers up today the hike was easy, passing a drink driving test at 10am on New Year's Day was soooo much harder! Cops out in full today, probably why the Parkruns were at 11
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 01, 2020, 09:30:44 PM
Quite a few at 930 too. I think it's maybe the only day you can do two.

Records all round Belfast. Some numbers at them these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebar on January 02, 2020, 09:06:21 AM
Guys / Girls looking any recommendations for a trail type shoe - I used a Mizuno Wave Harrier in the past which I liked it ok but it has since been discontinued. I run usually in local forest parks on fire roads etc with small bit of mud / tarmac - anyone can recommend anything for use in parks? Maybe the Wave Harrier was overkill but i really liked it so looking something similar if possible.   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 02, 2020, 12:19:06 PM
A real new year post here... I'm planning on getting back into doing a bit of road running this year but before I get going I need to get sorted with some suitable footwear. Any recommendations for something that isn't too expensive but good for some short to medium runs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2020, 02:17:05 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 02, 2020, 12:19:06 PM
A real new year post here... I'm planning on getting back into doing a bit of road running this year but before I get going I need to get sorted with some suitable footwear. Any recommendations for something that isn't too expensive but good for some short to medium runs?

I have a few different pairs that I use now that I know fit me well and suit me. I always keep an eye on the New Balance and Nike websites for sales and pick up a few pairs when they are on sale. At the moment I have New Balance Beacon, Nike Pegasus Turbo and a pair of Nike Zoom fly. None of them cost me anymore than €80-€90.
It's like anything, what suits someone else may not suit you.
I'd advise you to go into a running shop and try on a few different pairs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: majestic on January 02, 2020, 07:51:56 PM
Been thinking recently about Running for GAA, and what would be best suited for a team with today's Sports Science. What type of training would be best for the modern day GAA team in terms of running for match fitness and performance.  My thoughts would centre around 200/400m work intervals, and speed development work - but with a club team is there an increased risk of injury as many may not be fit enough for intervals of this distance. How is it best to get someone to this level, shorter interval runs or build up using 5ks?
Any thoughts welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2020, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: majestic on January 02, 2020, 07:51:56 PM
Been thinking recently about Running for GAA, and what would be best suited for a team with today's Sports Science. What type of training would be best for the modern day GAA team in terms of running for match fitness and performance.  My thoughts would centre around 200/400m work intervals, and speed development work - but with a club team is there an increased risk of injury as many may not be fit enough for intervals of this distance. How is it best to get someone to this level, shorter interval runs or build up using 5ks?
Any thoughts welcome.

I refereed Kilcoo couple of weeks ago, if you're looking a running team with pace you'd not go too far wrong with their training regime (whatever that is) as their fitness and speed level is the best I've seen
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 02, 2020, 08:41:37 PM
A well organised trainer with helpers would have 3/4 training groups set up for running drills
Forwards and corner backs it's all speed, change of direction and evasion
Half backs, half forwards and midfielders need serious legs to get around the pitch and so longer runs at 75% speed
Then a group for older lads, injury prone players and returning from injury who would do shorter work in straight lines
Most running in a game is done at jogging speed so any recovery between sets would be done with movement

Just my tuppence
Title: Re: Running
Post by: awideisneverasgood on January 03, 2020, 12:08:25 AM
Started last January with couch to 5k and built up to doing 10k regularly in the last few months.  Went to play a bit of 5 a side a couple of weeks and my achilles was sore afterwards.  I was limping for a couple of days afterwards but pain died away.  Tried doing 5k again there and it got sore again the next day. 

Anybody any experience with an achilles strain and how long it might take?

I'm doing all the stretches as per advice on the web but is it worth going to see a physio?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 03, 2020, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: awideisneverasgood on January 03, 2020, 12:08:25 AM
Started last January with couch to 5k and built up to doing 10k regularly in the last few months.  Went to play a bit of 5 a side a couple of weeks and my achilles was sore afterwards.  I was limping for a couple of days afterwards but pain died away.  Tried doing 5k again there and it got sore again the next day. 

Anybody any experience with an achilles strain and how long it might take?

I'm doing all the stretches as per advice on the web but is it worth going to see a physio?
Yes
Could be tendon injury or shin splints or a list of sruff
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2020, 11:09:25 AM
Your glutes might not be firing right, you might have tight hip flexors...

Physio would know best.

I have suffered for quite a while with achilles problems unfortunately.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tbrick18 on January 03, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
I haven't ran in probably 15 years...a litany of ankle and knee injuries put an end to me doing anything to taxing and I would have constant ankle and knee pain. I've piled on a fair few lbs too in that time, which doesn't help the joints either.
Looking at trying to shift a few lbs and get to a general level of fitness again and I think jogging is probably the most consistent way.
Any tips for getting going from basically a standing start? Long slow runs? Short fast runs? I'm basically a newcomer to running for fitness as I only ever had football training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2020, 12:15:57 PM
You could try a couch to 5k program? They seem a good starting point for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 03, 2020, 12:25:27 PM
Couch to 5k definitely the best way to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Last Man on January 03, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 03, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
I haven't ran in probably 15 years...a litany of ankle and knee injuries put an end to me doing anything to taxing and I would have constant ankle and knee pain. I've piled on a fair few lbs too in that time, which doesn't help the joints either.
Looking at trying to shift a few lbs and get to a general level of fitness again and I think jogging is probably the most consistent way.
Any tips for getting going from basically a standing start? Long slow runs? Short fast runs? I'm basically a newcomer to running for fitness as I only ever had football training.
Set yourself a target that you are going to lose "x"lbs by a certain time, print it off and put it somewhere where you'll look at it every day. Also tell someone you know will support your efforts. The next thing to do is come up with a plan to stop/reduce the things that negatively impact your target. Small changes in activity, diet etc. can make a fair difference, then build from there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 03, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 03, 2020, 12:25:27 PM
Couch to 5k definitely the best way to go.
Yes. Focus on losing weight first though. The joints will thank you for it
Smaller plates, more veg and fruit and plan your meals  for the week.

Best of luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2020, 07:22:07 PM
Yeah cross train more to start with maybe. Just build it up and it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on January 03, 2020, 09:27:23 PM
I've entered the lottery for this year's Dublin marathon, first round of texts coming out today and until the 10th letting people know if they get in and further round of texts will come out at start of February.

Have done the last two Omagh half marathons (pb was 1hr 57) so really hoping to get a shot at the full one in October. Goal will be keeping it under 4hrs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 03, 2020, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 03, 2020, 09:27:23 PM
I've entered the lottery for this year's Dublin marathon, first round of texts coming out today and until the 10th letting people know if they get in and further round of texts will come out at start of February.

Have done the last two Omagh half marathons (pb was 1hr 57) so really hoping to get a shot at the full one in October. Goal will be keeping it under 4hrs.
I think the 10th is the first day of texts being sent, don't think they are being sent from today.
Best of luck hope you get in, it's a great Marathon.
I signed up already for 2020 as I've done the last few of them so had a guaranteed entry.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Onthe40 on January 10, 2020, 12:17:30 PM
didn't get in.....arrrgghhhhhhhh.....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 10, 2020, 02:52:14 PM
Do you think this will edge a lot of people towards the Belfast marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Onthe40 on January 10, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
how do they intend counteracting the 5000+ failures to show last year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 10, 2020, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on January 10, 2020, 03:06:25 PM
how do they intend counteracting the 5000+ failures to show last year?
Always going to be no shows but that was a very high no show last year to be fair.
I see they have increased the field now to 25000 also and over 35000 applied in total.
If it gets any bigger they will have to look into changing the route surely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 10, 2020, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 10, 2020, 02:52:14 PM
Do you think this will edge a lot of people towards the Belfast marathon?
Entered Belfast myself for this year! Don't think I'll bother with Dublin again !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on January 10, 2020, 08:14:10 PM
I got in!!

Got a local 10 mile race at beginning of March and then Omagh half on the 28th March. Plan to go for a slow, consistent build up of kms over the summer. Can't wait!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on January 10, 2020, 08:20:10 PM
I've signed up for one in Killybegs come July

https://worldsmarathons.com/marathon/donegal-wild-atlantic-marathon

Won't have the crowds or atmosphere of Dublin, but a cracking location and soemthing different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
I got a place too. Very injury prone these days so not sure I will make it but will give it a go.

BM be interesting to see how you get on in Belfast. If they get the distance right, if, it's a good event. There are some stinking hills round the 18 or so mile mark though lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
I got a place too. Very injury prone these days so not sure I will make it but will give it a go.

BM be interesting to see how you get on in Belfast. If they get the distance right, if, it's a good event. There are some stinking hills round the 18 or so mile mark though lol.

Surprised at you going for the marathon, uou much prefer the shorter distances
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2020, 08:35:53 PM
I need to try one sometime. Lot of injury issues though so far from guaranteed to make the start line! Not very quick these days anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 11, 2020, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
I got a place too. Very injury prone these days so not sure I will make it but will give it a go.

BM be interesting to see how you get on in Belfast. If they get the distance right, if, it's a good event. There are some stinking hills round the 18 or so mile mark though lol.
Really? Thanks for the heads up...best year to do a race is after a c**k up because organisers pull out all the stops. Just hoping weather will be kind , if it's a hot day, PB won't go..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2020, 09:56:25 AM
I would say the driver of the lead car from last year may not be invited back ;D

I am not convinced it's a pb course but, distance aside, last year seemed a a massive improvement so would be a good one to do. If you are down 230s/240s you will likely be top twenty probably and might be on your own a bit though relay teams will help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 11, 2020, 12:27:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2020, 09:56:25 AM
I would say the driver of the lead car from last year may not be invited back ;D

I am not convinced it's a pb course but, distance aside, last year seemed a a massive improvement so would be a good one to do. If you are down 230s/240s you will likely be top twenty probably and might be on your own a bit though relay teams will help.
Haha...fact , comical stuff last year ! Yep, id like to say I've done it as my dad ran Belfast back in the 80s. Do most if not all the training solo so well used to grinding it out if isolated in a race. The race is the easy bit , training is the slog. Good luck yourself giving it a crack ..it's a great goal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2020, 03:09:17 PM
Started your plan imtommygun? Went for run today, weather perfect if not cold starting out. 7 miles with a chesty cough! First road run of the year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2020, 05:15:44 PM
No it's January lol. I do about 8 or 9 on a Sunday anyway so just did that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
Ah, realise now, thought it was Belfast, which is 16 weeks! Friend from work got the London ticket, getting so hard now with these lotto style marathons
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
The Dublin one seems to be smoke and mirrors to get approval for numbers and venues - I am not convinced it is needed.. I have had real Achilles bother for a year to two years and really would have preferred not to sign up this early and wouldn't have but for the lottery so I am far from guaranteed yet.

I try London every year and every year the feckers  turn me down.

I do the relay in Belfast but for the whole thing wouldn't be a fan of course and organisers so not sure I would do it. I usually just do ithe relay with work ones as an excuse for a night out after.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 13, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
I got a place too. Very injury prone these days so not sure I will make it but will give it a go.


Feckin Nordies, coming down here taking our Marathon places....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 13, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
BM is doing belfast so we're even...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on January 21, 2020, 03:48:21 PM
Has anyone done cruciate? I was wondering could you work after surgery? I am a teacher. Not confirmed till I have a  scan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 13, 2020, 08:53:56 PM
I see the London Marathon has been postponed until October.
Was there anyone from here doing it?
I'd imagine Boston will be the next to be postponed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 09:33:54 PM
Park runs cancelled also
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 09:33:54 PM
Park runs cancelled also

Where did you see that? Nothing on my local parkrun fb apart from no refreshments available.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 09:33:54 PM
Park runs cancelled also

Where did you see that? Nothing on my local parkrun fb apart from no refreshments available.

Waterworks my wife was saying
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 09:33:54 PM
Park runs cancelled also

Where did you see that? Nothing on my local parkrun fb apart from no refreshments available.

Waterworks my wife was saying

Thanks, surely there's no way any of them are going ahead when you see runs scheduled for May being cancelled.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 13, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 09:33:54 PM
Park runs cancelled also

Where did you see that? Nothing on my local parkrun fb apart from no refreshments available.

Waterworks my wife was saying

Thanks, surely there's no way any of them are going ahead when you see runs scheduled for May being cancelled.

She'd mentioned it earlier but I've a few friends that do the waterworks so must find out
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
It was on....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2020, 12:17:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 14, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
It was on....

Good, it's getting to the point were people don't want to go out ffs!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
Unless it's for toilet roll
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2020, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 14, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
Unless it's for toilet roll

Was put earlier and the missus said would get roll! f**k! Signs up in the spar saying one packet per person!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 14, 2020, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 14, 2020, 11:52:59 AM
It was on....
No Park Runs down here today or for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 06, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

If your looking budget range I have this and it's great job. Has radio (But need to use wired headphones) or if using music on an SD card you can use wireless. Hardly know it's there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 06, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

If your looking budget range I have this and it's great job. Has radio (But need to use wired headphones) or if using music on an SD card you can use wireless. Hardly know it's there.

Have what?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2020, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 06, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

If your looking budget range I have this and it's great job. Has radio (But need to use wired headphones) or if using music on an SD card you can use wireless. Hardly know it's there.

Have what?
Fecking teasing you  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 06, 2020, 10:59:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 06, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

If your looking budget range I have this and it's great job. Has radio (But need to use wired headphones) or if using music on an SD card you can use wireless. Hardly know it's there.

Have what?
Sorry, sorry head's away.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AGPTEK-Bluetooth-Portable-Headphone-Sweat-proof/dp/B07NP6997C/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?dchild=1&keywords=agptek+mp3+player+8gb+12&qid=1586210296&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Went for a run earlier around the pitches with the dogs!

Been averaging 18,000 steps a day since I've stopped working, few runs here and there but did sprints between the 21's for 5km, the pitches at the uni are less that half a mile away so plenty space and very small numbers about.

Be difficult enough in the city to get local runs going
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 10, 2020, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Went for a run earlier around the pitches with the dogs!

Been averaging 18,000 steps a day since I've stopped working, few runs here and there but did sprints between the 21's for 5km, the pitches at the uni are less that half a mile away so plenty space and very small numbers about.

Be difficult enough in the city to get local runs going

What's your height and weight? What minute miles are you doing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2020, 02:13:20 PM
I just run the roads in the city and there's generally not too many about. I would go more into the country at the weekend as there would be a few more. If you're walking or running most people cross the road when they see anyone these days so not like you ever get particularly close to anyone.

I've a close to 7 mile loop from the house I do the odd lunchtime then a longer one at the weekend. I think being indoors almost 24/7 isn't helping the fitness!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on April 10, 2020, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 01:07:56 PM
Went for a run earlier around the pitches with the dogs!

Been averaging 18,000 steps a day since I've stopped working, few runs here and there but did sprints between the 21's for 5km, the pitches at the uni are less that half a mile away so plenty space and very small numbers about.

Be difficult enough in the city to get local runs going

What's your height and weight? What minute miles are you doing?

5-6' and 11.3 stone! I'm only little though at 48 I'm reasonably fit! Not enough stretching as I'm feeling pain in the groin area!

When I'm walking the dogs it varies as the blighters can sniff for Ireland but generally 15km walking a day it's a 3 hour or less walk, depending on which loop I do!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
I hope that's all done at once and you don't drive to get there ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 10, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
I hope that's all done at once and you don't drive to get there ;)

I haven't been in the car for over a week! So strange not driving the local spar is close enough, and like I say, the beach is a mile a way with a tow path and the uni is half a mile with plenty pitches! We've a small Wood beside me also. Very lucky! Be stir crazy if I lived near my mum/dad!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on April 10, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

On a similar note I am looking for a decent set of wireless headphones for running. I have bought a couple of cheap pairs that have worked well for a while but then just gave up for no reason so looking to get a pair that,s a bit more long lasting if anyone can recommend.  I usually just pair with the Iphone so just needs to be bluetooth
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on April 10, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: TabClear on April 10, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

On a similar note I am looking for a decent set of wireless headphones for running. I have bought a couple of cheap pairs that have worked well for a while but then just gave up for no reason so looking to get a pair that,s a bit more long lasting if anyone can recommend.  I usually just pair with the Iphone so just needs to be bluetooth

Depends on budget too but I use these for gym and running - jabra elite active 75t.

For some reason I struggle to get earbuds that fit well but these are great. Also have a set of these https://www.sony.ie/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm3, but even though they are class I wouldn't recommend for running or activities where you be sweating lots.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 10, 2020, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: TabClear on April 10, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

On a similar note I am looking for a decent set of wireless headphones for running. I have bought a couple of cheap pairs that have worked well for a while but then just gave up for no reason so looking to get a pair that,s a bit more long lasting if anyone can recommend.  I usually just pair with the Iphone so just needs to be bluetooth
I use these.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07DHMS6C3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Not completely wire free, but are bluetooth.
I couldn't use those little wire free buds at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on April 10, 2020, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 10, 2020, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: TabClear on April 10, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 06, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
anyone recommend a bluetooth MP3 player that you can use when running?
Don't want to bust the bank on an ipod touch as i feckin hate apple and all their tie ins.

On a similar note I am looking for a decent set of wireless headphones for running. I have bought a couple of cheap pairs that have worked well for a while but then just gave up for no reason so looking to get a pair that,s a bit more long lasting if anyone can recommend.  I usually just pair with the Iphone so just needs to be bluetooth
I use these.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07DHMS6C3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Not completely wire free, but are bluetooth.
I couldn't use those little wire free buds at all.

Cheers LL, those are the kind of ones I am after. I tend to find when running that one keeps popping out occasionally so I would nt want the buds.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 06:48:48 PM
I've used the Beats ones for a few years, sit over the ear, has never fallen out

https://www.johnlewis.com/powerbeats-pro-true-wireless-bluetooth-in-ear-sport-headphones-with-mic-remote/p4137295?sku=238286437&colour=Moss&s_ppc=2dx92700046622711432&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIupmb7rLe6AIVCrDtCh1PLwNqEAQYCyABEgJPtfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
5k brisk walk every day, or 5k run twice per week.  Which is better?  Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
5k brisk walk every day, or 5k run twice per week.  Which is better?  Any thoughts.

On average since lockdown I've been doing on average 15 per day. So over 340 miles since I stopped working, mainly walking the dogs. So to answer that I'd say keeping fit I'd rather run 3 days a week than walk everyday as I would noticed a difference in my fitness over walking than running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on April 29, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
5k brisk walk every day, or 5k run twice per week.  Which is better?  Any thoughts.

Whichever one you are more likely to keep doing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
5k brisk walk every day, or 5k run twice per week.  Which is better?  Any thoughts.

On average since lockdown I've been doing on average 15 per day. So over 340 miles since I stopped working, mainly walking the dogs. So to answer that I'd say keeping fit I'd rather run 3 days a week than walk everyday as I would noticed a difference in my fitness over walking than running
We're walking 5k every day and my calves are in knots!  I think I'd feel fitter if I ran it 2 or 3 times a week, but then getting out for a walk every evening is good for the head as well.  I suppose it's all a trade off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Sportacus on April 29, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
I could but that's a lot of wear and tear, I'm not as young as some of you bucks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
Like loads of others I suppose, I have been doing a bit of running over the past month.  Couple of 5k each week.  I was really starting to enjoy it and def starting to feel the fitness improve.  2 miles into my last run I felt a pain in my calf and had to stop.  I was able to slowly jog home.  It has eased up a good bit in the subsequent two days but I can still feel it.  Having googled it a little and going by location of pain I would assume it is actually the upper Achilles that is causing the problem.

Any tips on recovery for this?  Stretches, foam roller?  Should I concentrate on building calf strength before trying running again?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 12:34:30 PM
Foam roller right on the pain spot! Rest! Should it persist get a professional to look at it, Xmas should be next appointment lol

Lots of people out running I've never seen normally round my way, I'd say you'll not be on your own in relation to injuries, if it's not your normal then the body will react differently imagine to extra work load! Or if the trainers are just for show rather than for running I won't help. Seen a big lad running in a pair of converse! No support at all

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 02:08:47 PM
Calf problem is not necessarily a calf problem if that makes sense. If you are tight in the glutes or hamstrings you will use your calves more than you should be and they might not be up to it. Stretch out glutes / hamstrings / hip flexors and that should help a bit anyway. A good calf stretch is the heel drop off stairs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on April 30, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
Like loads of others I suppose, I have been doing a bit of running over the past month.  Couple of 5k each week.  I was really starting to enjoy it and def starting to feel the fitness improve.  2 miles into my last run I felt a pain in my calf and had to stop.  I was able to slowly jog home.  It has eased up a good bit in the subsequent two days but I can still feel it.  Having googled it a little and going by location of pain I would assume it is actually the upper Achilles that is causing the problem.

Any tips on recovery for this?  Stretches, foam roller?  Should I concentrate on building calf strength before trying running again?

Had the same type of problem 2 weeks ago after 1k I just felt it kind of pop a bit. Stopped straight away and haven't done any running since but it feels fine now so will probably try something this weekend. Felt like more of a calf strain to me but again I would have no idea what the difference is.

Rest seems to have done the trick need to do more stretching before I run!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 30, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
Like loads of others I suppose, I have been doing a bit of running over the past month.  Couple of 5k each week.  I was really starting to enjoy it and def starting to feel the fitness improve.  2 miles into my last run I felt a pain in my calf and had to stop.  I was able to slowly jog home.  It has eased up a good bit in the subsequent two days but I can still feel it.  Having googled it a little and going by location of pain I would assume it is actually the upper Achilles that is causing the problem.

Any tips on recovery for this?  Stretches, foam roller?  Should I concentrate on building calf strength before trying running again?

Had the same type of problem 2 weeks ago after 1k I just felt it kind of pop a bit. Stopped straight away and haven't done any running since but it feels fine now so will probably try something this weekend. Felt like more of a calf strain to me but again I would have no idea what the difference is.

Rest seems to have done the trick need to do more stretching before I run!!

Stretching after I think is much better, start off slow that be your warm up then get into your stride! Good stretch afters
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Thanks folks.  Running wouldn't be completely alien to me, it's just been a while.  But yes, flexibility in general is an issue.  I will get working on that over the next week.  A bit of foam rolling and some heel drops off the stairs once the pain eases a little more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Thanks folks.  Running wouldn't be completely alien to me, it's just been a while.  But yes, flexibility in general is an issue.  I will get working on that over the next week.  A bit of foam rolling and some heel drops off the stairs once the pain eases a little more.
Foam rolling not essential , more about perception of soreness rather than doing anything structural to the tissue....if you enjoy it, fire away the evidence says but if you don't , it's ok to not do it.
I'd avoid heel drops at this stage ...rather go for long sustained holds...ie , edge of step...raise up onto ball of foot and hold that elevation statically for 45-60 seconds x 5 times during the day. Tolerable level of discomfort is ok while doing exercise but should resolve quickly ...if pain escalates, dial back the time of the elevation of calf raise.
Need to be able to hop x 20 times painfree before attempt run....and then , be conservative with distance and intensity when you return...primary cause of running injury is doing too much too soon. Any questions throw us a pm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/
Load of bollox . Waste of money!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Helix. on May 03, 2020, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/
Load of bollox . Waste of money!

Are the massage guns any use or a waste of money for likes of muscle tightness from running. Back doing runs after knee surgery almost a year post op. Any advice appreciated!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2020, 11:29:36 PM
Got myself a pair of Brooks running shoes today, looking to break them properly tomorrow!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: FermGael on May 04, 2020, 07:44:11 AM
What type ? Was looking at the ghost ones
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on May 04, 2020, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/

Have seen them before. Was looking was something portable though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 04, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: Helix. on May 03, 2020, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/
Load of bollox . Waste of money!

Are the massage guns any use or a waste of money for likes of muscle tightness from running. Back doing runs after knee surgery almost a year post op. Any advice appreciated!

Massage Guns are a good job alright - obviously don't get the ones at 200 or 300. There are non brand alternatives on Amazon for 50-80.

Not much use for the back though unless you've a willing helper, or extremely long arms.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 04, 2020, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Thanks folks.  Running wouldn't be completely alien to me, it's just been a while.  But yes, flexibility in general is an issue.  I will get working on that over the next week.  A bit of foam rolling and some heel drops off the stairs once the pain eases a little more.
Foam rolling not essential , more about perception of soreness rather than doing anything structural to the tissue....if you enjoy it, fire away the evidence says but if you don't , it's ok to not do it.
I'd avoid heel drops at this stage ...rather go for long sustained holds...ie , edge of step...raise up onto ball of foot and hold that elevation statically for 45-60 seconds x 5 times during the day. Tolerable level of discomfort is ok while doing exercise but should resolve quickly ...if pain escalates, dial back the time of the elevation of calf raise.
Need to be able to hop x 20 times painfree before attempt run....and then , be conservative with distance and intensity when you return...primary cause of running injury is doing too much too soon. Any questions throw us a pm

Cheers. I'm now pain free walking and heel drops ok too. I'll try holding up for 45-60 seconds. Then do some hops before I try a run. Dying to get back at it.

While I'm here, what way do you guys approach warming up, stretching etc before a run. Would yous do a bit in the house before setting off or would you jog a little then stop to do stretches etc before actually commencing your timed run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2020, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Helix. on May 03, 2020, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 03, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 03, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Which foam roller is best? The smooth one or the ones with bumps?

I'd need it for glutes, calves etc and to loosen up the back now and again.
Have you looked at the backballer? Supposed to be good, though I have never tried one.

https://backballer.com/product/exercise-foam-roller/
Load of bollox . Waste of money!

Are the massage guns any use or a waste of money for likes of muscle tightness from running. Back doing runs after knee surgery almost a year post op. Any advice appreciated!
Ya, complete bullshit. Avoid . Placebo at best and I'd even class it as a nocebo, because people feel they need it and actually become less resilient .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 04, 2020, 01:14:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 04, 2020, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Thanks folks.  Running wouldn't be completely alien to me, it's just been a while.  But yes, flexibility in general is an issue.  I will get working on that over the next week.  A bit of foam rolling and some heel drops off the stairs once the pain eases a little more.
Foam rolling not essential , more about perception of soreness rather than doing anything structural to the tissue....if you enjoy it, fire away the evidence says but if you don't , it's ok to not do it.
I'd avoid heel drops at this stage ...rather go for long sustained holds...ie , edge of step...raise up onto ball of foot and hold that elevation statically for 45-60 seconds x 5 times during the day. Tolerable level of discomfort is ok while doing exercise but should resolve quickly ...if pain escalates, dial back the time of the elevation of calf raise.
Need to be able to hop x 20 times painfree before attempt run....and then , be conservative with distance and intensity when you return...primary cause of running injury is doing too much too soon. Any questions throw us a pm

Cheers. I'm now pain free walking and heel drops ok too. I'll try holding up for 45-60 seconds. Then do some hops before I try a run. Dying to get back at it.

While I'm here, what way do you guys approach warming up, stretching etc before a run. Would yous do a bit in the house before setting off or would you jog a little then stop to do stretches etc before actually commencing your timed run?
Evidence thin regarding benefits of stretching , personal preference really . Personally I just put on the runners and out the door with first mile , half mile easy jog. I'd do some strides before a track session.
1 session of strength training a week though , dead lifts ..squats , calf raises with weight added etc ...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 04, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 04, 2020, 01:14:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 04, 2020, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 03, 2020, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 30, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Thanks folks.  Running wouldn't be completely alien to me, it's just been a while.  But yes, flexibility in general is an issue.  I will get working on that over the next week.  A bit of foam rolling and some heel drops off the stairs once the pain eases a little more.
Foam rolling not essential , more about perception of soreness rather than doing anything structural to the tissue....if you enjoy it, fire away the evidence says but if you don't , it's ok to not do it.
I'd avoid heel drops at this stage ...rather go for long sustained holds...ie , edge of step...raise up onto ball of foot and hold that elevation statically for 45-60 seconds x 5 times during the day. Tolerable level of discomfort is ok while doing exercise but should resolve quickly ...if pain escalates, dial back the time of the elevation of calf raise.
Need to be able to hop x 20 times painfree before attempt run....and then , be conservative with distance and intensity when you return...primary cause of running injury is doing too much too soon. Any questions throw us a pm

Cheers. I'm now pain free walking and heel drops ok too. I'll try holding up for 45-60 seconds. Then do some hops before I try a run. Dying to get back at it.

While I'm here, what way do you guys approach warming up, stretching etc before a run. Would yous do a bit in the house before setting off or would you jog a little then stop to do stretches etc before actually commencing your timed run?
Evidence thin regarding benefits of stretching , personal preference really . Personally I just put on the runners and out the door with first mile , half mile easy jog. I'd do some strides before a track session.
1 session of strength training a week though , dead lifts ..squats , calf raises with weight added etc ...
Some bodyweight dynamic stretching can be good but different approaches work for different people
A good warm up is high knees for 20 secs, bum kicks for 10 and repeat a few times, some step overs, open the hips, roll the feet to toes
Static stretching has always benefited me as a recovery tool between training sessions and as a warm down
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on May 04, 2020, 11:33:10 PM
I would just add that you should take onboard any advice ballinaman is giving. Quite simply the man knows what he is talking about and in the past has been a massive help to me. He sorted some long term issues I had with straightforward advice and simple instructions that 3 or 4 expensive physios before him couldn't.  That's all!!

I still owe you a few pints BM, I haven't forgotten!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2020, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: No1 on May 04, 2020, 11:33:10 PM
I would just add that you should take onboard any advice ballinaman is giving. Quite simply the man knows what he is talking about and in the past has been a massive help to me. He sorted some long term issues I had with straightforward advice and simple instructions that 3 or 4 expensive physios before him couldn't.  That's all!!

I still owe you a few pints BM, I haven't forgotten!

+1
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on May 04, 2020, 07:44:11 AM
What type ? Was looking at the ghost ones

I got the Brooks Adrenaline GTS19

I've a couple runs lately, seem fine so far. No major issues
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2020, 03:49:53 PM
I haven't use brooks ghost since about the 6 but I loved them. I have mizuno waves now which I like too but when asics really weren't working out for me I moved to ghost and they were great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 14, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
Was pain free with holding the heel up and hopping. Was even grand playing a bit of football with the child in the garden. Decided today was the day to try and do a very small jog. All was going great, no pain. 6 mins I got and then pop. Calf again. Going to have to give this one a real good rest. Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2020, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 14, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
Was pain free with holding the heel up and hopping. Was even grand playing a bit of football with the child in the garden. Decided today was the day to try and do a very small jog. All was going great, no pain. 6 mins I got and then pop. Calf again. Going to have to give this one a real good rest. Very frustrating.

That's crap, how long did you rest it from when it first pulled on you?

went out for a 6 miler on Tuesday morning, legs only feeling better now, thighs were burning,  few hills but Christ it feels good when you finish it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 14, 2020, 07:38:28 PM
Just over 3 weeks. Probably not enough but I had a false sense of being ready and was over eager. Gonna have to find something else to do to stay active to stop myself going stir crazy. Can't even go to a gym.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2020, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 14, 2020, 07:38:28 PM
Just over 3 weeks. Probably not enough but I had a false sense of being ready and was over eager. Gonna have to find something else to do to stay active to stop myself going stir crazy. Can't even go to a gym.

No weights at home? I bought weights flipping years ago and they lay in garage but they're being used constantly and not just me, kids are using them too! I've been doing pump classes on line and kettle bell classes.

But get walking at the very least, my dogs generally have me walking about 15k a day! Gets you out
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 19, 2020, 10:32:36 AM
Dublin Marathon cancelled.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on May 26, 2020, 10:04:34 PM
Sorry for long post.

I've just started running again. I'm 38 and i have never been fit in my adult life. I havent really trained properly since minor football, mid 20s made an attempt to comeback but lasted about 3/4 months and again at about 30 trained with some county players i knew for 6 weeks before my hamstring went.(did too much too soon) Over the years id have played a few junior games most years or 5 a side football but never consistently trained.

As a result of covid i no longer commute and can work from home for the next 5 months at least which is 3hrs a day i get back. I am running 3km 3 times a week for the last 4/5 weeks and moving to 4 times a week now. I started at 119kgs and im down to 109kgs which is making the running a little easier. Ideally i like to get down to 90/95 kgs..im 6"3.

My legs are hurting, calves, hamstrings, groin everything apart from quads.. i was thinking of powering through but not sure if this is the best option or what should i do? I have reduced my 3km time from 19.5 minutes to 17 minutes, this and the weight loss is encouraging me to keep going.

if anyone has any advise at all it would be more than welcomed...especially around injury prevention from overdoing it or am i best trying to run longer distance rather than faster 3kms..  thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 26, 2020, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 26, 2020, 10:04:34 PM
Sorry for long post.

I've just started running again. I'm 38 and i have never been fit in my adult life. I havent really trained properly since minor football, mid 20s made an attempt to comeback but lasted about 3/4 months and again at about 30 trained with some county players i knew for 6 weeks before my hamstring went.(did too much too soon) Over the years id have played a few junior games most years or 5 a side football but never consistently trained.

As a result of covid i no longer commute and can work from home for the next 5 months at least which is 3hrs a day i get back. I am running 3km 3 times a week for the last 4/5 weeks and moving to 4 times a week now. I started at 119kgs and im down to 109kgs which is making the running a little easier. Ideally i like to get down to 90/95 kgs..im 6"3.

My legs are hurting, calves, hamstrings, groin everything apart from quads.. i was thinking of powering through but not sure if this is the best option or what should i do? I have reduced my 3km time from 19.5 minutes to 17 minutes, this and the weight loss is encouraging me to keep going.

if anyone has any advise at all it would be more than welcomed...especially around injury prevention from overdoing it or am i best trying to run longer distance rather than faster 3kms..  thanks

first thing make sure you've a half decent pair of running shoes.
I wouldn't be worrying about times yet, better to be out enjoying it than busting yourself trying to beat times. There's plenty of time for that if you stick at it. Slower and steady at the start and try to slowly increase miles, pace will come later.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on May 26, 2020, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 26, 2020, 10:04:34 PM
Sorry for long post.

I've just started running again. I'm 38 and i have never been fit in my adult life. I havent really trained properly since minor football, mid 20s made an attempt to comeback but lasted about 3/4 months and again at about 30 trained with some county players i knew for 6 weeks before my hamstring went.(did too much too soon) Over the years id have played a few junior games most years or 5 a side football but never consistently trained.

As a result of covid i no longer commute and can work from home for the next 5 months at least which is 3hrs a day i get back. I am running 3km 3 times a week for the last 4/5 weeks and moving to 4 times a week now. I started at 119kgs and im down to 109kgs which is making the running a little easier. Ideally i like to get down to 90/95 kgs..im 6"3.

My legs are hurting, calves, hamstrings, groin everything apart from quads.. i was thinking of powering through but not sure if this is the best option or what should i do? I have reduced my 3km time from 19.5 minutes to 17 minutes, this and the weight loss is encouraging me to keep going.

if anyone has any advise at all it would be more than welcomed...especially around injury prevention from overdoing it or am i best trying to run longer distance rather than faster 3kms..  thanks


"I have reduced my 3km time from 19.5 minutes to 17 minutes, this and the weight loss is encouraging me to keep going."

You don't need to set a record every time you run. You can back off, run 20-22 mins for 3k and still get health benefits. Mix in a few faster sections for a few minutes in some of your runs. Then in 3-4 weeks try for another PB. Maybe not as encouraging as going faster every time but it might help your running keep going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2020, 10:32:36 PM
Your body tells you it's sore and you need to rest it, stretch it and recover. And the muscle you're building will strengthen and you'll be able to increase your miles, losing weight is simple, start a healthy balanced diet that will supplement your extra miles!

Running is the ultimate full body workout, for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyCake on May 26, 2020, 10:33:42 PM
Mix and match. I do that depending on mood. Walk, run, sprint, walk... etc.

Some days I can't be arsed and mixing it up gets me through it. Other days I go at a steady pace most of the way through.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2020, 07:48:53 AM
Build up aerobically first with slow runs and stretch a good bit too. It's tough at the beginning with running but starting slow helps.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on May 27, 2020, 09:35:52 AM
Anyone ever read "Born to Run" by Christopher McDougall?  Interesting read about endurance races and the Tarahumara in Mexico.  Makes you think twice about buying the expensive runners as well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Run-Hidden-Ultra-Runners-Greatest/dp/1861978774/ref=asc_df_1861978774/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=311073987241&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1830390231846406034&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9040157&hvtargid=pla-404289635230&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Run-Hidden-Ultra-Runners-Greatest/dp/1861978774/ref=asc_df_1861978774/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=311073987241&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1830390231846406034&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9040157&hvtargid=pla-404289635230&psc=1&th=1&psc=1)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on May 27, 2020, 10:05:29 AM
thanks for all the advice..

i think my running shoes are ok, not causing any issues im aware of anyway. Healthy eating started 6 weeks ago and i dont miss the amount of crap i was eating.

while im not aiming for a pb every run i am setting myself goals but they might be too unrealistic and i might be putting my body under too much pressure.. there is definately a mental thing for me with seeing progess in terms of numbers, times, distance and weight. Without that visual i have previously tended to stop exercise, healthy eating etc. if i plateau. This is something i really need to get on top of so thanks again for your comments.

how long is the "beginning" in its "tough at the beginning" generally? ive never got past the beginning stage!!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
It's just 2 or 3 years ;D

Joke. Should be a month or two. Best way to start is keep it mostly aerobic. (I would say no harm in the odd parkrun or whatever but not much chance of that for a while).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on May 30, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Any patella tendinitis sufferers here? Haven't been able to run in a few weeks now with it. Went out for a very gentle run this morning and had to stop after 200m due to the pain. I'll get booked into my physio went he is back up and running but any suggestions of rehab in the meantime?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2020, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 30, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Any patella tendinitis sufferers here? Haven't been able to run in a few weeks now with it. Went out for a very gentle run this morning and had to stop after 200m due to the pain. I'll get booked into my physio went he is back up and running but any suggestions of rehab in the meantime?

Not nice! 

ballinaman is the man for that! Talked me through a injury similar a good while back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 09, 2020, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 26, 2020, 10:04:34 PM
Sorry for long post.

I've just started running again. I'm 38 and i have never been fit in my adult life. I havent really trained properly since minor football, mid 20s made an attempt to comeback but lasted about 3/4 months and again at about 30 trained with some county players i knew for 6 weeks before my hamstring went.(did too much too soon) Over the years id have played a few junior games most years or 5 a side football but never consistently trained.

As a result of covid i no longer commute and can work from home for the next 5 months at least which is 3hrs a day i get back. I am running 3km 3 times a week for the last 4/5 weeks and moving to 4 times a week now. I started at 119kgs and im down to 109kgs which is making the running a little easier. Ideally i like to get down to 90/95 kgs..im 6"3.

My legs are hurting, calves, hamstrings, groin everything apart from quads.. i was thinking of powering through but not sure if this is the best option or what should i do? I have reduced my 3km time from 19.5 minutes to 17 minutes, this and the weight loss is encouraging me to keep going.

if anyone has any advise at all it would be more than welcomed...especially around injury prevention from overdoing it or am i best trying to run longer distance rather than faster 3kms..  thanks
Fair play on all that

First issue is weight. You need to keep going. I'd advise doing some cross training with another sport to avoid injury e.g. cycling, or home gym workout.

I'd concentrate on slowly adding time to your runs, not speed. Going for speed you are inviting injury
Each time you go out, add eg 1/2 minute to the total for maybe 3/4 runs, then scale it back for a week. Get your total run time up to a target over e.g. 5/6 weeks. 3 runs a week is enough, if you add in something else to break it up.
By running slower, you can focus on technique, your breathing, you'll have time to think about stuff.

Once you have more time in the legs/lungs you can worry about distance and speed.
You need a decent mobilisation before running as it's hard on the joints and give yourself the luxury of actually stretching after your run or that day. Long stretches or even look up yoga for athletes
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 09, 2020, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 30, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Any patella tendinitis sufferers here? Haven't been able to run in a few weeks now with it. Went out for a very gentle run this morning and had to stop after 200m due to the pain. I'll get booked into my physio went he is back up and running but any suggestions of rehab in the meantime?
Can often be due to very tight muscles up the leg, IT band or quad. Also poor mobility in the hip.
You might need an MRI and consultant

Go stand in a lake or cold water for 20 mins
Single leg hip exercises can help if you've no pain  - single leg squats, split squats, single leg deadlifts, side lunges
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 09, 2020, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 30, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Any patella tendinitis sufferers here? Haven't been able to run in a few weeks now with it. Went out for a very gentle run this morning and had to stop after 200m due to the pain. I'll get booked into my physio went he is back up and running but any suggestions of rehab in the meantime?

Try looking at the inner thigh just above the knee, it can be a pressure point which needs relief. Also you might get a bit of joy with the soft outer part of your shin combined with the calf muscles as a whole. You have pressure built up you need to release. My bet will be the two inner thigh muscle (vastus medialis for google purposes). It's not pleasant but if your tender to foam roll or self massage that's usually the indicator you need to do it. Body areas like this I prefer the massage gun as you can keep an extended pressure on it and total working, it's a bit tough to get into foam rolling there for the extent you might well need to.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
First race back down south last night I see. It was a pop up race 5k with about 40 people doing it. (Not even sure where it was tbh)

I saw today too that there is a race scheduled for July up north at the down royal race course in July. (Bloody hard course).

Good to see something coming back. I can't see parkrun coming back for a while as too much overheads for what is voluntary but maybe some of these events companies will deserve their money now too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2020, 06:40:02 PM
Anyone out running lately? With lockdown it was sporadic no consistency but being back at work this week the normal routine has allowed me to run more!?

Wouldn't mind getting ready for a few races should they start going again and really barring the start they should be in with a shout if other sports are getting dates
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2020, 06:41:49 PM
I've ran more than I have in years and enjoying it. Wouldn't mind a crack at a parkrun or race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
New Irish record for mageean - sub 2 in the 800. This is massive for her. My opinion has always been that if she wants to be competitive at the very top she needs to be running sub 2. Now she has. Great to see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 24, 2020, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
New Irish record for mageean - sub 2 in the 800. This is massive for her. My opinion has always been that if she wants to be competitive at the very top she needs to be running sub 2. Now she has. Great to see.
I was happy with my 3min 800 repeats the other day...sub 2 christ!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2020, 09:32:12 PM
Just saw the video too. Cruising.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2020, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
New Irish record for mageean - sub 2 in the 800. This is massive for her. My opinion has always been that if she wants to be competitive at the very top she needs to be running sub 2. Now she has. Great to see.

Fantastic
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on July 24, 2020, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
New Irish record for mageean - sub 2 in the 800. This is massive for her. My opinion has always been that if she wants to be competitive at the very top she needs to be running sub 2. Now she has. Great to see.

That's great to hear. That's amazing running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: marty34 on August 14, 2020, 10:13:48 PM
Fantastic run by Ciara - really setting a high standard.  Very consistent.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2020, 11:38:16 PM
231 for a km. Not bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
Great national 1500 metre men's final tonight. Good to see Robinson come back after all that time out. With him, Tobin and o'lionaird coming back from retirement the 1500 is strong here.

Disappointing for mageean in the diamond league but two national records from three races isn't half bad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2020, 02:40:18 PM
Mo Farah is to do the larne half marathon on Saturday week. I think the course record may be under threat lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2020, 12:10:29 PM
Bit of a shock on the cards at the London marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 04, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Great sprint finish there at the London Marathon.
Bad day for Kipchoge.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2020, 12:29:26 PM
Scullion 2:09:49.

Clohissey looked to be going well too.

Auld kipchoge had a bad days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on October 15, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Anyone ever purchase runners online?  Usually head into Pure Running and get the gait analysis done and just purchase runners there, but is it really necessary?

Also, found that when I've been out recently both my feet are sore during the run...pretty sure I'm not carrying any injuries so would it down to using old runners or lack of stretching?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on October 15, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on October 15, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Anyone ever purchase runners online?  Usually head into Pure Running and get the gait analysis done and just purchase runners there, but is it really necessary?

Also, found that when I've been out recently both my feet are sore during the run...pretty sure I'm not carrying any injuries so would it down to using old runners or lack of stretching?

Both these could be a factor although personally if i dont stretch its more in the legs than the feet. I know the trainer manufacturers (unsurprisingly!) tell you to change runners anywhere between 300 to 500 miles. That doesn't take long if you are doing a couple of long runs every week. I tend to look at the tread on the sole to determine when they need changed, its also a decent way to check if you have a gait problem. If there is excessive wear in one spot, e.g the outside heel you could have a issue that is putting starin on the feet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GetOverTheBar on October 15, 2020, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on October 15, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Anyone ever purchase runners online?  Usually head into Pure Running and get the gait analysis done and just purchase runners there, but is it really necessary?

Also, found that when I've been out recently both my feet are sore during the run...pretty sure I'm not carrying any injuries so would it down to using old runners or lack of stretching?

Give them a roll over before your next run with a hurling ball or tin of beans or something. See if that helps. Sounds like a bit of tension - a few calf raises right up to balls of feet would do no harm also if it was originating from that area.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2020, 04:58:12 PM
Get a fitted pair in a place like that and then the likes of sports shoes.co.uk when you know what you are looking for and have been fitted. I got the same pair about 50 quid cheaper. (Same model a bit older mind you)

Yeah could be plantar. Stretch the calves a lot and that might help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on October 15, 2020, 05:30:32 PM
Cheers for the responses
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 15, 2020, 08:28:26 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on October 15, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Anyone ever purchase runners online?  Usually head into Pure Running and get the gait analysis done and just purchase runners there, but is it really necessary?

Also, found that when I've been out recently both my feet are sore during the run...pretty sure I'm not carrying any injuries so would it down to using old runners or lack of stretching?
Generally buy online now, best get runners that you find comfortable and stick with those, gait analysis is all fluff trying to sell you different types of runners....change them up about 600-700 hundred miles depending on how much abuse they get , alternating between pair a extend the life out of them I've found too, older pair for grass/beach and newer for road for example...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 08:57:59 AM
Still having a right bit of calf problems.  Foam rolled the life outta them.  Stretching and even been doing the hopping.  All that is fine.  Went for a bit of a run jog combo two days ago as a bit of tester, like a couch to 5k setup.  Any distance at all jogging and I started to feel it.

I am thinking of giving the compression socks/sleeves a go to see if they help at all.  Anyone else use these? Or would that be a waste of time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2020, 09:13:56 AM
My calves flare up if my glutes aren't working. I know that sounds very broad but things like knee lift etc should come from glutes / hip area and if they're not working then to get it you compensate with the calf. Make sure hip flexors are well stretched and the glutes are working right - single leg bridges and the like of clam shells work well. I know taht is broad but is my own experience on a lot of calf issues. I've been working from home since march and with a young kid tend to be more housebound so I go through cycles of calf bother but glute work has helped a lot.

(Also root cause could be not strong enough - depends on your case but the above I find helpful for me. If you're doing raises, stretching etc it could be you or if you're not doing raises / stretches you'd need to do them)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2020, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 08:57:59 AM
Still having a right bit of calf problems.  Foam rolled the life outta them.  Stretching and even been doing the hopping.  All that is fine.  Went for a bit of a run jog combo two days ago as a bit of tester, like a couch to 5k setup.  Any distance at all jogging and I started to feel it.

I am thinking of giving the compression socks/sleeves a go to see if they help at all.  Anyone else use these? Or would that be a waste of time?

Foam rolling makes no impact and zero evidence behind it...perception changes/ placebo more than
anything...akin to rubbing your knee after you whack it on a table , different stimulus to the skin and tissue.

Two common causes of calf pain can be capacity or lack there of as Tommy discussed above ...6 times your body weight in terms of force goes through calf complex while running...capacity and ability to tolerate these forces is key....but this would present later into a run in terms of fatigue ...

If the awareness is instant and you can't recall an acute injury , can be neurally driven pain into the calf. YouTube "slump flosser exercise " and you'll find video as to do this exercise ...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2020, 09:33:58 AM
That looks interesting BM. Cheers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2020, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 08:57:59 AM
Still having a right bit of calf problems.  Foam rolled the life outta them.  Stretching and even been doing the hopping.  All that is fine.  Went for a bit of a run jog combo two days ago as a bit of tester, like a couch to 5k setup.  Any distance at all jogging and I started to feel it.

I am thinking of giving the compression socks/sleeves a go to see if they help at all.  Anyone else use these? Or would that be a waste of time?

Foam rolling makes no impact and zero evidence behind it...perception changes/ placebo more than
anything...akin to rubbing your knee after you whack it on a table , different stimulus to the skin and tissue.

Two common causes of calf pain can be capacity or lack there of as Tommy discussed above ...6 times your body weight in terms of force goes through calf complex while running...capacity and ability to tolerate these forces is key....but this would present later into a run in terms of fatigue ...

If the awareness is instant and you can't recall an acute injury , can be neurally driven pain into the calf. YouTube "slump flosser exercise " and you'll find video as to do this exercise ...

Thanks for this. I never had any calf issues during my football years, or even through a right few years road running.  It wasn't until lockdown that I pulled it doing a 5k and aggravated it a few weeks later again.  Now I just cant seem to shake it.  I will have a look at the recommended youtube videos and get the hip stretching done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2020, 10:22:53 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 29, 2020, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 08:57:59 AM
Still having a right bit of calf problems.  Foam rolled the life outta them.  Stretching and even been doing the hopping.  All that is fine.  Went for a bit of a run jog combo two days ago as a bit of tester, like a couch to 5k setup.  Any distance at all jogging and I started to feel it.

I am thinking of giving the compression socks/sleeves a go to see if they help at all.  Anyone else use these? Or would that be a waste of time?

Foam rolling makes no impact and zero evidence behind it...perception changes/ placebo more than
anything...akin to rubbing your knee after you whack it on a table , different stimulus to the skin and tissue.

Two common causes of calf pain can be capacity or lack there of as Tommy discussed above ...6 times your body weight in terms of force goes through calf complex while running...capacity and ability to tolerate these forces is key....but this would present later into a run in terms of fatigue ...

If the awareness is instant and you can't recall an acute injury , can be neurally driven pain into the calf. YouTube "slump flosser exercise " and you'll find video as to do this exercise ...

Thanks for this. I never had any calf issues during my football years, or even through a right few years road running.  It wasn't until lockdown that I pulled it doing a 5k and aggravated it a few weeks later again.  Now I just cant seem to shake it.  I will have a look at the recommended youtube videos and get the hip stretching done.
Ok, potentially a residual capacity deficit so if there was a definite pull and then a re aggravation a few weeks later...

Need to load the calf up to be able to tolerate running ...body weight calf raises are ok to start with but need to add weight to replicate running demands ...

Seated calf raises with heavy weight on knee is a good exercise that can be done at home ...lob a heavy back pack or anything heavy on knees if going double or single raises
YouTube "seated calf raise" or seated soleus raise " . Go heavy x 6-8 reps x 3 sets x 3 per week. Ie, max weight you can lift for 6-8 reps before you need to tap out.

The above + the neural flosser as per previous post and you've both most common bases covered.

Gradual return to running key though , the doing is the fixing in running injuries...you have to expose body to the job gradually , all the gym work and exercises in the world won't fully replicate running ..so as always , a balance to be struck !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on October 29, 2020, 11:14:47 AM
Thanks BM.  A great help as always
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Verticalball on November 07, 2020, 12:16:38 AM
Long time no posting folks, but just at a loose end these days, wondering how others are finding lockdown / partial lockdown these days regarding running?

Motivation is up and down with me these days - my big aim (and has been for a while) is to run a half marathon under 1hr 50 and I completed the virtual GNR in under 1hr 51 a few weeks back.

Any tips for how to get going again? Would love an event of some sort but just feeling a bit flat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 07, 2020, 07:56:51 AM
Having no races is a balls alright. Hopefully next year things start getting back to normal.

I'm not bothered about these Virtual races, don't see the point in them. Even having Park Run back would be great.
How about setting yourself a goal like to run a certain amount of milage in a month or a run streak goal? Mini goals like that can help.
I set myself a small goal at the moment to run everyday in November for example. Its not difficult really but small goals like that keep me motivated to get out the door.

I did a bit of trail running/hiking during the summer also around the Wicklow mountains and loved it, was nice to change it up a bit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2020, 08:15:07 AM
Quote from: Verticalball on November 07, 2020, 12:16:38 AM
Long time no posting folks, but just at a loose end these days, wondering how others are finding lockdown / partial lockdown these days regarding running?

Motivation is up and down with me these days - my big aim (and has been for a while) is to run a half marathon under 1hr 50 and I completed the virtual GNR in under 1hr 51 a few weeks back.

Any tips for how to get going again? Would love an event of some sort but just feeling a bit flat.
Great running, you'll hit your target soon. Pick a route and a day with decent weather and you'll take 1.50.

You'd definitely miss races, extra bit of bite and intensity when you've a number pinned to you alright . Times and races are great but just getting out the door and training is a good buzz too, I remind myself  how much I'd miss it if couldn't do it and thankful that I can.

I said in March when lockdown started I'd try for a PB in 5k on a track in July , so put the head down for a few months and worked for that. Did a a solo time trial.

Did 50 consecutive days in a row training just finishing last Sunday. Longest streak I've ever did , glad to break it Monday though ..it was becoming a bit of a dose having to squeeze runs in on busy days.

Pick a personal goal or something you haven't done before and that'll keep motivation ticking over.

Races were getting out of hand, 10 a penny last few year. Might be a good thing in the long term , quality over quantity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Verticalball on November 07, 2020, 09:33:21 AM
Thanks for the advice folks, a new goal like focusing on the 5k time sounds like a plan. Definitely agree about the virtual races, found GNR very underwhelming to be honest. Might have to build up to 50 consecutive days, that's some going Ballinaman!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 12:59:21 PM
Not quite just running but I see the first ever Down syndrome person completed an Ironman going. Some going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2020, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 12:59:21 PM
Not quite just running but I see the first ever Down syndrome person completed an Ironman going. Some going.

Seen that..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 09, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 12:59:21 PM
Not quite just running but I see the first ever Down syndrome person completed an Ironman going. Some going.
Absolutely fantastic achievement by him, had a few tears in my eyes watching the video of him finishing.
Society puts limits on guys like him, its fantastic to see what he and others like him might be able to achieve when they are given the chance.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3513785315311024&id=417155091640744
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Recommended physio's in Belfast areas?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Targetman on November 16, 2020, 01:46:47 PM
Check out The Physio Group, on Ormeau Road, I've been with their Newry physios
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 16, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Recommended physio's in Belfast areas?
Physio specifically or sports massage?
Former Tyrone player (All Ireland winner) won  has started a sports massage business if you want to talk football at same time 😁
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 03:10:33 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 16, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Recommended physio's in Belfast areas?
Physio specifically or sports massage?
Former Tyrone player (All Ireland winner) won  has started a sports massage business if you want to talk football at same time 😁

That's it, I think I've injured something which is probably affecting something else!! So a general overview on it, haven't ran properly for a month..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on November 18, 2020, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 09, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 12:59:21 PM
Not quite just running but I see the first ever Down syndrome person completed an Ironman going. Some going.
Absolutely fantastic achievement by him, had a few tears in my eyes watching the video of him finishing.
Society puts limits on guys like him, its fantastic to see what he and others like him might be able to achieve when they are given the chance.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3513785315311024&id=417155091640744

Ya, thought is was amazing. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on January 18, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
any recommendations on where to get a decent pair of runners online?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2021, 02:14:34 PM
http://www.sportsshoes.com/ (http://www.sportsshoes.com/)

I use them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on January 18, 2021, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 18, 2021, 02:14:34 PM
http://www.sportsshoes.com/ (http://www.sportsshoes.com/)

I use them.

thanks!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 18, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
any recommendations on where to get a decent pair of runners online?
Adidas have a sale on at the moment.
Picked up a pair of SL20 for €52
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2021, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 18, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
any recommendations on where to get a decent pair of runners online?
Adidas have a sale on at the moment.
Picked up a pair of SL20 for €52

Do you have a link for that LL? Can't seem to find it. The .co.uk site has them at £60
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 18, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2021, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 18, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 18, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
any recommendations on where to get a decent pair of runners online?
Adidas have a sale on at the moment.
Picked up a pair of SL20 for €52

Do you have a link for that LL? Can't seem to find it. The .co.uk site has them at £60
They are €64.90 on Adidas.ie but then I used the code EXTRA20 for another 20% off to bring them down to €52 or €51.92 to be exact!!

https://www.adidas.ie/sl20-shoes/EG1144.html?cm_mmc=AdieSEM_PLA_Google-_-GS-OPT-IE-Categories-SubBranded-_-SUBBRAND+-+outlet-_-PRODUCT_GROUP&cm_mmca1=IE&cm_mmca2=&71700000024812056&ds_agid=58700003074129335&gclid=CjwKCAiAgJWABhArEiwAmNVTB04FmTJRVlvoPQM8YjYk7cG8hK5XlGiPnankYdaxP_83ryH8nfGa1BoCg64QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2021, 07:52:56 PM
Cheers LL. got a pair there as well. Have been mostly Asics  over last few years so will be good to try different make.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on February 17, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
I've managed to get a few 5ks completed over the last couple of weeks without the calf going again (touch wood).  I was scrolling through facebook last night and noticed the virtual Belfast half marathon being advertised.  If I get a couple more injury free runs completed this month I definitely think I will take a stab at that. Something to motivate myself during these times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2021, 04:42:57 PM
I had to do a period of isolation there and the first run I went back to I pulled my calf. I actually have more or less this same issue and I think it boils down to glute "control" for me. I work in a very static job so if I don't keep at exercises mine just go dead and for whatever reason that has a knock on effect on the calf.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bogball88 on February 17, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 16, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Recommended physio's in Belfast areas?
Physio specifically or sports massage?
Former Tyrone player (All Ireland winner) won  has started a sports massage business if you want to talk football at same time 😁
Whos that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on February 17, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: Rois on November 16, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:20:40 PM
Recommended physio's in Belfast areas?
Physio specifically or sports massage?
Former Tyrone player (All Ireland winner) won  has started a sports massage business if you want to talk football at same time 😁
Whos that?

I ended up at the Physio group in Belfast Ormeau Avenue.

Was a very successful few sessions which cleared up things


Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 18, 2021, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2021, 04:42:57 PM
I had to do a period of isolation there and the first run I went back to I pulled my calf. I actually have more or less this same issue and I think it boils down to glute "control" for me. I work in a very static job so if I don't keep at exercises mine just go dead and for whatever reason that has a knock on effect on the calf.
Do you foam roll?
Glute activation - check banded exercises
Tight hamstrings also impact calves
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 08:54:48 AM
I foam roll non stop lol. I do banded exercises a lot but if I stop them then after about a week everything goes to shit again. Yeah hamstrings from too much sitting also not ideal. I try and stretch too but too easy to get out of the habit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on February 18, 2021, 09:17:12 AM
Yeah I think that is the same problem that I have.  Most of my working day is at a computer so I would say it all develops from my hips too.  I have worked quite a bit on strengthening my calf as best I could. Heel drops on the stairs, even 1 legged ones to add more weight to the calf. I tried the foam rolling but I have to say I don't think it's helping.

Fingers crossed it holds out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 09:32:43 AM
I have done the calf strengthening a lot too. It's very frustrating but I think tbh particularly now with WFH that it really is not good for the mobility of back, hips, hamstrings etc and really just needs discipline in keeping the whole chain going.

I love the running though would be quite injury prone at it. I would be of the opinion that rather than it being bad for you it is just unforgiving so if you have weaknesses in there running is just going to bring them out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 09:53:35 AM
On another note Nadia Power is doing some great times in the 800 metres these days. She smashed the national indoor record yesterday. Robinson coming back nicely, Tobin flying and Andrew Corcoran starting to make a name for himself in the 1500. (Dublin track club seems the place to be at at the minute).

Mageean is maybe dropping off a bit but there is massive competition in the womens 800 metres these days. There are 4 or 5 under 2:05 recently and Mageean seems the slowest but this will pick up. Katie Kirk in there too which is good to see as she has had a few problems over the last number of years. I think the world indoors? is coming up so really good to see the competition in there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bogball88 on February 18, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfF4f-QGRn8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfF4f-QGRn8)
Good 5 minute warm up that can be done in the house before starting a warm up. I find it very useful after sitting most of the day
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 12:45:29 PM
Cheers bogball. That kind of thing would definitely help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 18, 2021, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 08:54:48 AM
I foam roll non stop lol. I do banded exercises a lot but if I stop them then after about a week everything goes to shit again. Yeah hamstrings from too much sitting also not ideal. I try and stretch too but too easy to get out of the habit.
Not ideal alright
Look at more hip exercises and single leg exercises
Single leg deadlifts, split squats, single leg (supported) squat, side lunges (deadlifts)
Your legs are as strong as the weakest link in chain
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 01:50:26 PM
Thanks manfromdelmonte. I also suffer from the fact that I would once have been half fast as a runner and am getting old so shouldn't be doing my runs at sub 7 minute miles especially when I am sitting half the day lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on February 18, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
Working from home has definitely had an effect on my running.  When pretty fit I could comfortably do 5km in 22 to 25 mins.  Found anytime I've been out recently I get pain/tightness round by calves and down towards feet after 1/2 km and I just can't build up any speed at all.  Lucky if I do 5km in 30 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 04:21:25 PM
Honestly it's the sitting I think. It kills you. Need to find ways to couteract what it does really.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2021, 05:35:16 PM
For me the niggling injuries I've had recently is completely down to not being at the gym! I was doing strength work tailored workouts which were strengthening the muscles around my joints.

I'd have always finished off when a stretch routine, now it's just a scattered workout randomly in the house!

Get the gyms opened up!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 19, 2021, 02:20:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2021, 05:35:16 PM
For me the niggling injuries I've had recently is completely down to not being at the gym! I was doing strength work tailored workouts which were strengthening the muscles around my joints.

I'd have always finished off when a stretch routine, now it's just a scattered workout randomly in the house!

Get the gyms opened up!
I download pieces of relaxing music that are 20-25 mins long
Put them on and stretch for the full duration
Either that or a yoga video off youtube
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2021, 06:30:04 PM
New indoor 800 record for mark English pushed all the way by Cian Mc Phillips who got a new u20 record. Mens 800 interesting too. (Shoes are playing a factor in times might I add)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 20, 2021, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 20, 2021, 06:30:04 PM
New indoor 800 record for mark English pushed all the way by Cian Mc Phillips who got a new u20 record. Mens 800 interesting too. (Shoes are playing a factor in times might I add)
Do you reckon there will be any mass participation events up North this year? When is the Belfast Marathon usually?
Can't see how the Dublin Marathon will go ahead, no way they are going to let 25000 people cram into Merrion Sq this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2021, 09:05:51 PM
It's usually in May. The half in September is already changed to virtual.

I'd be happy with parkrun by end of the year at current rate. (There actually were quite a few races over last summer here - they weren't the huge participation ones but in the hundred plus category anyway. I suspect they could maybe come back).

I couldn't see any of the city marathons on at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 21, 2021, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 20, 2021, 09:05:51 PM
It's usually in May. The half in September is already changed to virtual.

I'd be happy with parkrun by end of the year at current rate. (There actually were quite a few races over last summer here - they weren't the huge participation ones but in the hundred plus category anyway. I suspect they could maybe come back).

I couldn't see any of the city marathons on at all.
Yeah even getting Park Runs back would be something. Can't see any of the big city races happening at all.
I got my usual thanks but no thanks email from the London Marathon last week. I wonder will that even go ahead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2021, 11:19:59 AM
Some good performances so far in the euro indoors. Maybe a few outside shots at a medal too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 05, 2021, 08:43:37 PM
Yer man Ingebrigtsen didn't even break a sweat there in the 1500m final.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on March 05, 2021, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 05, 2021, 08:43:37 PM
Yer man Ingebrigtsen didn't even break a sweat there in the 1500m final.

Is that why he was disqualified?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2021, 12:18:53 AM
Sure some of the boys on here struggle to make 5K never mind a Marathon!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 06, 2021, 05:59:10 AM
Quote from: dec on March 05, 2021, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 05, 2021, 08:43:37 PM
Yer man Ingebrigtsen didn't even break a sweat there in the 1500m final.

Is that why he was disqualified?
He was and now he isn't again!
Some machine though, looked effortless to him.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 08, 2021, 09:22:55 AM
Upped it ever so slightly last week and did 4 miles. Yards from the house I seemed to have strained the calf again.  Occasional pain and tightness throughout the last few days. Very frustrating.  The reality is that I probably need a physio at this stage.

Is cycling any easier on the calf muscles  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2021, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2021, 09:22:55 AM
Upped it ever so slightly last week and did 4 miles. Yards from the house I seemed to have strained the calf again.  Occasional pain and tightness throughout the last few days. Very frustrating.  The reality is that I probably need a physio at this stage.

Is cycling any easier on the calf muscles  ;D

Have you a treadmill? I have bother with the calfs as well. But always fine if I do a bit of work on the treadmill for a week or two I  usually strengthen them a bit and then don't have as much bother with go back to the roads. I never use the gradient so I suppose it means less stress on the calf than on the roads when up and down hills. Might just be in my head but thankfully haven't had too much issue with the calf recently.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 08, 2021, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2021, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2021, 09:22:55 AM
Upped it ever so slightly last week and did 4 miles. Yards from the house I seemed to have strained the calf again.  Occasional pain and tightness throughout the last few days. Very frustrating.  The reality is that I probably need a physio at this stage.

Is cycling any easier on the calf muscles  ;D

Have you a treadmill? I have bother with the calfs as well. But always fine if I do a bit of work on the treadmill for a week or two I  usually strengthen them a bit and then don't have as much bother with go back to the roads. I never use the gradient so I suppose it means less stress on the calf than on the roads when up and down hills. Might just be in my head but thankfully haven't had too much issue with the calf recently.

Nah no treadmill at home and of course no gyms at the minute.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on March 10, 2021, 12:07:17 AM
Are you doing an S&C program to strengthen the calf muscles? I had never any issues with muscle injuries but had a calf tear a couple of years ago. Physio told me my calf muscles weren't strong enough so told me to prioritise S&C for them. Was never an issue when playing football all the time. Might help you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 10, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 10, 2021, 12:07:17 AM
Are you doing an S&C program to strengthen the calf muscles? I had never any issues with muscle injuries but had a calf tear a couple of years ago. Physio told me my calf muscles weren't strong enough so told me to prioritise S&C for them. Was never an issue when playing football all the time. Might help you.

Yeah I've been doing my own S&C as best I can at home over the past year.  I must say it did certainly help and I was able to do a few runs over say a 6 week period with no issues. There's defo a weakness there that I am struggling to shake. Again like yourself, I never had any calf issues while playing football.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on March 26, 2021, 09:42:37 AM
Any advice here on good websites for good runners and flash sales? I always have a brand new pair in the house for when my current pair needs replaced and because I never "need" to buy a pair immediately I usually keep an eye out for decent offers on  last season pairs at a decent discount and buy when I see something that pops up on sale or discount code.   I generally run in Asics on their outlet site but recently I have found it nearly impossible to get any decent deals. I am a size 10 which does not help as its a popular size but i think the Covid restrictions are definitely impacting stocks.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.

Thinking of going back to the Hoka shoes, so cushy and reduces the impact on the joints!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
I have never tried them but half the running community in Belfast runs in them! (It was funny watching them evolve - I ran with a few boys who had them and they never took on then the guy who brought parkrun here who pretty much is a running legend starting wearing them and everyone starting wearing them lol)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on March 26, 2021, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.

Thinking of going back to the Hoka shoes, so cushy and reduces the impact on the joints!!!

You do big miles dont you MR? All my miles are on the road up to about 10 miles at a time but I have never tried Hoka. The above is getting more appealing than it was 10 years ago so might give them a go
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2021, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
I have never tried them but half the running community in Belfast runs in them! (It was funny watching them evolve - I ran with a few boys who had them and they never took on then the guy who brought parkrun here who pretty much is a running legend starting wearing them and everyone starting wearing them lol)

Does he work in the running shop?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.
https://www.alltricks.com/ and https://www.deporvillage.net often have good deals also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TabClear on March 26, 2021, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 26, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.
https://www.alltricks.com/ and https://www.deporvillage.net often have good deals also.

Thanks men, I will check these out
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 26, 2021, 10:13:53 AM
Quote from: TabClear on March 26, 2021, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 26, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
https://www.sportsshoes.com/ (https://www.sportsshoes.com/) and https://www.sweatshop.com/ (https://www.sweatshop.com/) would be the ones I use.
https://www.alltricks.com/ and https://www.deporvillage.net often have good deals also.

Thanks men, I will check these out
Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2021, 02:53:41 PM
I'm a big fan of brooks shoes too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2021, 04:41:41 PM
On the advice of a few erstwhile board runners I got a pair of Brooks last week. I'm only getting going at the running and wouldn't be the lightest. Had been running in ASICS and have found the Brooks great for extra cushion on my knees and ankles. I looked around a few places and ended up buying them online from Donaghys in Banbridge!!  Decent price and prefer to give it to local people than big retailers. They don't have a big range but I got what I was looking for
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2021, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2021, 04:41:41 PM
On the advice of a few erstwhile board runners I got a pair of Brooks last week. I'm only getting going at the running and wouldn't be the lightest. Had been running in ASICS and have found the Brooks great for extra cushion on my knees and ankles. I looked around a few places and ended up buying them online from Donaghys in Banbridge!!  Decent price and prefer to give it to local people than big retailers. They don't have a big range but I got what I was looking for

Wasn't overly sold on the Brooks I got last time in fairness, probably more mileage out of them but going back to the Hoka's. I need my knees when I retire
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Verticalball on March 27, 2021, 12:28:57 AM
I changed to hoka bondi about four years ago and they're great, was asics before that but for no particular reason. I would have had a few issues with the knees back in the day playing football so the extra cushioning is worth it, took a punt on hoka after going to Pure running in Belfast. That said I was between pairs a couple of yrs ago and took a chance on the Brooks glycerin because I saw a good deal, ended up with a stress fracture in my foot, pushing too hard too soon instead of building up. Hoka definitely don't last as long though. I find anything from 300 miles on and it's time for a new pair. I think when you find a shoe which suits your feet you really have little option other than sticking with it, or you might risk injury otherwise.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
Agree with that. Find a shoe that works for you but everyone is different. Brooks ghost were a godsend for me and ASICS didn't work for me at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 19, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
Some good news hopefully re the Dublin Marathon

https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/1383812538152882189
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on May 21, 2021, 03:49:16 PM

[/quote]
Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.
[/quote]

Started running at start of first lockdown, being reading this thread for years, I'm an old lad these days but I now run 30k a week, loving it. Just back from the Run Hub, picked up a pair of the Saucony Hurricane 23s, can't wait to get out in them.
I'm blaming you LL if these don't take serious time off my best times.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 21, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on May 21, 2021, 03:49:16 PM

Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.
[/quote]

Started running at start of first lockdown, being reading this thread for years, I'm an old lad these days but I now run 30k a week, loving it. Just back from the Run Hub, picked up a pair of the Saucony Hurricane 23s, can't wait to get out in them.
I'm blaming you LL if these don't take serious time off my best times.
[/quote]
No idea about the Hurricane, the ones I have are the Endorphin Speed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 21, 2021, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?
would usually have 3 pairs of runners on the go and would alternate them between longer and shorter runs, newer ones for the longer runs. Probably would be changing a pair after around 400 miles, though you can usually tell when they need changed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 21, 2021, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?
would usually have 3 pairs of runners on the go and would alternate them between longer and shorter runs, newer ones for the longer runs. Probably would be changing a pair after around 400 miles, though you can usually tell when they need changed.

Cheers 👍
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2021, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?

Wasn't overly impressed Sheedy with the Brooks, was hoping they'd be better probably picked the wrong pair. Brooks Guiderails
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 22, 2021, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2021, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?

Wasn't overly impressed Sheedy with the Brooks, was hoping they'd be better probably picked the wrong pair. Brooks Guiderails
guiderails is the technology built into different brooks shoes to give support rather than being the name of a brooks running shoe?
Everyone is different and what suits someone might be totally rubbish for someone else. A lot of people recommend hoka but I couldn't get into them at all. Maybe didn't give them enough of a chance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2021, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 22, 2021, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2021, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 21, 2021, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on March 26, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
i run 40 to 50 miles a week and past couple of years have always run in brooks, have had few different versions of their shoes and always found them a great shoe. check these guys out, have a few good deals from time to time.  https://www.runnersneed.com/

anyone not sure on what shoe to decide on, there's a couple of comparison sites where you can compare reviews, weight, price, arch support etc etc.

https://www.runningshoesguru.com/   https://runrepeat.com/

How often would you change your runners doing that mileage?

Wasn't overly impressed Sheedy with the Brooks, was hoping they'd be better probably picked the wrong pair. Brooks Guiderails
guiderails is the technology built into different brooks shoes to give support rather than being the name of a brooks running shoe?
Everyone is different and what suits someone might be totally rubbish for someone else. A lot of people recommend hoka but I couldn't get into them at all. Maybe didn't give them enough of a chance.

Adrenaline GTS 19 Brooks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 25, 2021, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on May 21, 2021, 03:49:16 PM

Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.
[/quote]

Started running at start of first lockdown, being reading this thread for years, I'm an old lad these days but I now run 30k a week, loving it. Just back from the Run Hub, picked up a pair of the Saucony Hurricane 23s, can't wait to get out in them.
I'm blaming you LL if these don't take serious time off my best times.
[/quote]
Well how they going for you?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on May 26, 2021, 07:31:55 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 25, 2021, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on May 21, 2021, 03:49:16 PM

Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.

Started running at start of first lockdown, being reading this thread for years, I'm an old lad these days but I now run 30k a week, loving it. Just back from the Run Hub, picked up a pair of the Saucony Hurricane 23s, can't wait to get out in them.
I'm blaming you LL if these don't take serious time off my best times.
[/quote]
Well how they going for you?
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I am delighted with them. I ran 20:58 for 5k yesterday morning. Now I got the COVID-19 vaccine the day before and wasn't feeling the best, but that's my second fastest time. The big difference is that I don't feel I am running on the road anymore, they cushion the impact. Looking forward to running further rather than faster in them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on May 26, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on May 26, 2021, 07:31:55 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 25, 2021, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on May 21, 2021, 03:49:16 PM

Btw if you are looking for something cushioned but still light enough if you want to go a bit faster then I'd highly recommend the Saucony Endorphin Speed, probably the best running shoe I've ever had.
My pair have almost 700km on them and they still feel great. They are expensive at €180 but they are great.

Started running at start of first lockdown, being reading this thread for years, I'm an old lad these days but I now run 30k a week, loving it. Just back from the Run Hub, picked up a pair of the Saucony Hurricane 23s, can't wait to get out in them.
I'm blaming you LL if these don't take serious time off my best times.
Well how they going for you?
[/quote]

I am delighted with them. I ran 20:58 for 5k yesterday morning. Now I got the COVID-19 vaccine the day before and wasn't feeling the best, but that's my second fastest time. The big difference is that I don't feel I am running on the road anymore, they cushion the impact. Looking forward to running further rather than faster in them.
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Good man fair play, that's great progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: galwayman on June 01, 2021, 10:03:08 AM
Hi lads. I've only taken up doing some runs in the last 6 months.
I need a new pair of runners now and looking for recommendations.
Now I've only been doing three 5k runs a week up to now & going to try and increase the distance gradually over the next few months - 22:35 is my best 5k time.
These runs don't come naturally to me at all - was used to the short sprint type runs from
Football but too old for that now alas.

Given that I'm not doing huge mileage here at all - does it actually matter what runners I buy?
Sale on at the moment and was thinking of getting Nike Pegasus 38s.
Good/bad idea?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2021, 10:49:05 AM
Quote from: galwayman on June 01, 2021, 10:03:08 AM
Hi lads. I've only taken up doing some runs in the last 6 months.
I need a new pair of runners now and looking for recommendations.
Now I've only been doing three 5k runs a week up to now & going to try and increase the distance gradually over the next few months - 22:35 is my best 5k time.
These runs don't come naturally to me at all - was used to the short sprint type runs from
Football but too old for that now alas.

Given that I'm not doing huge mileage here at all - does it actually matter what runners I buy?
Sale on at the moment and was thinking of getting Nike Pegasus 38s.
Good/bad idea?

What are you currently using? If you are getting 22.35 for 5K then you are doing alright for something as you say, doesn't come naturally..

So its always a personal choice, I've had the Nike running shoes and not overly impressed, some here prefer Brooks, Saucony (haven't tried them yet) though interested, the Hoka one shoe was very good for me, great cushioned sole and felt good when running.

But if you are doing enough miles I think the key is changing them every 400/500 miles, read the comments if getting them online, as a lot depends on the type of runs you are doing, old injuries form football and fitness levels.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 10:55:26 AM
I've been using mizuno air wave which I am happy enough with. I used to use Brooks but they "evolved" a lot and I wouldn't like them as much any more. I'm not a big fan of asics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 10:55:26 AM
I've been using mizuno air wave which I am happy enough with. I used to use Brooks but they "evolved" a lot and I wouldn't like them as much any more. I'm not a big fan of asics.

Well cushioned Tommy?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 11:06:05 AM
Yeah. Not the same level as hokas but they are one of the more comfortable running shoes I've worn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 11:11:21 AM
Folks
Don't post on here very often but just looking opinions. Taken up running and cycling since the playing career has recently ended to try and keep in some sort of shape.

Looking to purchase a fitness tracker/smart watch to track runs and cycles etc. Does anyone have any decent experience with these and any recommendations?

Was contemplating an Apple Watch but the battery life just doesn't seem up to scratch for the amount of money they cost. Wouldn't want to buy something that spends more time on the charger than on my wrist. Thinking along the lines of Garmin or Polar but any suggestions would be appreciated
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 17, 2021, 11:23:23 AM
Have had a couple of Garmin. Couldn't fault them. Forerunner is a great bit of kit. Had the 235 and it's a great job. Made the mistake of changing to a Visio. Which has a few added bells and whistles, but not the same amount of running data. Would love the forerunner 735 but was pricey when I was looking and couldn't justify it. Think not more reasonable now. Can store music on it and stream.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on June 17, 2021, 11:42:44 AM
I have the forerunner 645, got it back in January and it's brilliant, the data on it is top notch and it stores music as well, so you can leave the phone at home.  Although it doesn't come with an array of downloadable apps like the apple watch, if its pure running and cycling data you are after then go for a forerunner.   
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 17, 2021, 11:49:54 AM
I'd second the 645 forerunner music, I charge it once a week, sometimes I'd give it a second blast if needed. Light on the wrist and looks good to. (IMO) Very easy to use. Great to leave the phone at home, holds about 500 songs but you need Spotify Premium.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2021, 12:20:48 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Garmin as the lads say. I've the 245, I very rarely listen to music when running so didn't need the music version.
Garmin have just released the new Forerunner 55 which basically has all the features of the older 245 but costs less.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: galwayman on June 17, 2021, 12:28:23 PM
Hi lads.
Would there be much of a difference between the 245 and 645 music versions?
Have seen them both for similar prices.
I currently run with my iPhone using RunKeeper to track the run and spotify for music.
This is working out fine in the main but needing the phone can be a pain.
Trying to decide between these and an Apple Watch. SE is cheaper than series 6 but I read somewhere that the GPS accuracy on the SE vs the 6 is well off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on June 17, 2021, 12:31:23 PM
Quote from: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 11:11:21 AM
Folks
Don't post on here very often but just looking opinions. Taken up running and cycling since the playing career has recently ended to try and keep in some sort of shape.

Looking to purchase a fitness tracker/smart watch to track runs and cycles etc. Does anyone have any decent experience with these and any recommendations?

Was contemplating an Apple Watch but the battery life just doesn't seem up to scratch for the amount of money they cost. Wouldn't want to buy something that spends more time on the charger than on my wrist. Thinking along the lines of Garmin or Polar but any suggestions would be appreciated

I have the Galaxy Watch Active 2. I realise that the guys here are rightly directing you towards the Garmin's etc as they are highly rated fitness trackers for a reason.

I personally wanted an all day smartwatch that could also track my activities.  I have it paired with strava so no bother there.  I get around 3 days before needing to charge it over night.  I even have a wee golf gps app on it. Suits me well and I would have no complaints after a year's use.

Heart rate etc is on it too, but I doubt it has the same accuracy as some of the others. That wouldn't concern me in the slightest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2021, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 17, 2021, 12:28:23 PM
Hi lads.
Would there be much of a difference between the 245 and 645 music versions?
Have seen them both for similar prices.
I currently run with my iPhone using RunKeeper to track the run and spotify for music.
This is working out fine in the main but needing the phone can be a pain.
Trying to decide between these and an Apple Watch. SE is cheaper than series 6 but I read somewhere that the GPS accuracy on the SE vs the 6 is well off.
Doubt there's a whole much difference between 245 and 645 music versions tbh. Here's a comparison https://www.wareable.com/garmin/garmin-forerunner-245-music-vs-forerunner-645-music-7328
On the Apple Watch vs Garmin. The Apple Watch is a smart watch that has some running functions, a Garmin is a running watch that has some smart watch functions. If you want a smart watch get the Apple if you want a running watch get the Garmin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Thanks for all the info gents.

Was just looking there at the Forerunner 645 Music. Argos in the north here have it priced at £200 and the official Garmin website has it priced at £350!! Some difference there.

I currently run using a Free Train vest to hold my phone for tracking activities and for listening to Spotify so the Forerunner 245 or 645 would seem to cater for all of that on your wrist.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 17, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Thanks for all the info gents.

Was just looking there at the Forerunner 645 Music. Argos in the north here have it priced at £200 and the official Garmin website has it priced at £350!! Some difference there.

I currently run using a Free Train vest to hold my phone for tracking activities and for listening to Spotify so the Forerunner 245 or 645 would seem to cater for all of that on your wrist.


What wireless earphones are you currently using?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: galwayman on June 17, 2021, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 17, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Thanks for all the info gents.

Was just looking there at the Forerunner 645 Music. Argos in the north here have it priced at £200 and the official Garmin website has it priced at £350!! Some difference there.

I currently run using a Free Train vest to hold my phone for tracking activities and for listening to Spotify so the Forerunner 245 or 645 would seem to cater for all of that on your wrist.

What wireless earphones are you currently using?
I use the Sennheiser CX-Sport wireless earphones. Would recommend them. They also support the AptX low latency codec so you shouldn't have any "lip-sync" issues if you use them to watch videos etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 17, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: The Corporal on June 17, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Thanks for all the info gents.

Was just looking there at the Forerunner 645 Music. Argos in the north here have it priced at £200 and the official Garmin website has it priced at £350!! Some difference there.

I currently run using a Free Train vest to hold my phone for tracking activities and for listening to Spotify so the Forerunner 245 or 645 would seem to cater for all of that on your wrist.


What wireless earphones are you currently using?

Have read reviews about bluetooth issues between wireless earphones & the 645 music when running. Is this still the case or have the ironed out those issues over time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2021, 05:44:49 PM
That's what I use and don't have issues. I have seinheisser something or other. They're Bluetooth but wire between the two earpieces. I thiink they have evolved to no wires at all since.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: galwayman on June 17, 2021, 07:24:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2021, 05:44:49 PM
That's what I use and don't have issues. I have seinheisser something or other. They're Bluetooth but wire between the two earpieces. I thiink they have evolved to no wires at all since.
Yeah you can get ones with no wires at all now - they're marketed as "true wireless".
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2021, 07:59:50 PM
Looking at getting this one from Garmin

Garmin Fenix 6 Sapphire, my mates son has one, swears by it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2021, 09:40:19 PM
What is the story with athletics Ireland? Are they a bunch of incompetent fools? (Like a few in athletics ni). I see they have caut dennehy from commentary on the nationals then there is nationals timing, pulling out of European cup and refusing to ratify the Belfast meet so their athletes could have more opportunities to qualify. They really don't seem to be covering themselves in glory these days.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: themac_23 on June 25, 2021, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 17, 2021, 12:20:48 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Garmin as the lads say. I've the 245, I very rarely listen to music when running so didn't need the music version.
Garmin have just released the new Forerunner 55 which basically has all the features of the older 245 but costs less.

Ive the Garmin Solar Instinct, great piece of kit. the battery life is on average 12 days with a full charge, I only use it for running and cardio work then for phonically coming through so dont know how it would stack up if you were looking more out if it for a smart watch. its basic but it hits everything I want it for, think I paid bout £300 for it and its was def worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2021, 09:14:39 AM
Announcement on if the Dublin Marathon was going ahead was expected today but they've delayed it now until July 15th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on June 28, 2021, 09:32:21 AM
Not being an expert on running, but with a passing interest, the wee girl from South Belfast Eimer McKee is putting up some times for 5K's and her only 12.

https://www.the42.ie/emer-mckee-5km-world-record-12-5421785-Apr2021/ (https://www.the42.ie/emer-mckee-5km-world-record-12-5421785-Apr2021/)

She's in the same school year as my wee girl who commented the other day, that I didn't have to do school sports day with her.  ;D

Hope she keeps that up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: HiMucker on June 28, 2021, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2021, 07:59:50 PM
Looking at getting this one from Garmin

Garmin Fenix 6 Sapphire, my mates son has one, swears by it
Its class. Would definitely recommend it. It does everything.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on June 28, 2021, 10:14:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 28, 2021, 09:32:21 AM
Not being an expert on running, but with a passing interest, the wee girl from South Belfast Eimer McKee is putting up some times for 5K's and her only 12.

https://www.the42.ie/emer-mckee-5km-world-record-12-5421785-Apr2021/ (https://www.the42.ie/emer-mckee-5km-world-record-12-5421785-Apr2021/)

She's in the same school year as my wee girl who commented the other day, that I didn't have to do school sports day with her.  ;D

Hope she keeps that up.

saw this on twitter. unbelievable time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:05:48 AM
Dublin marathon cancelled.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2021, 11:29:55 AM
Load of balls that is... >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:30:42 AM
restrictions are still too tight - always going to happen.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2021, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:30:42 AM
restrictions are still too tight - always going to happen.

London Marathon still going ahead in October
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 12:04:43 PM
Belfast same day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2021, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 12:04:43 PM
Belfast same day.
I know Belfast wouldn't get the same numbers as Dublin but it is ridiculous that can go ahead and an hour down the road a Marathon can't.
Not blaming the Dublin Marathon organisers at all btw, I can understand why they had to pull it, but it is a bit annoying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 12:51:41 PM
Yeah agreed. I don't think they have a choice with the way the government are handling the restrictions. Even if things are really good no guarantee that would mean restrictions would have been relaxed the way things are.

Still - you could always do belfast ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2021, 12:52:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 12:51:41 PM
Yeah agreed. I don't think they have a choice with the way the government are handling the restrictions. Even if things are really good no guarantee that would mean restrictions would have been relaxed the way things are.

Still - you could always do belfast ;D
My Passport is out of date 😜
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 01:01:23 PM
It's ok we got that border moved into the sea just for you ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on July 07, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
Disappointing but not surprised. Have an entry for Belfast as well so maybe it worked out for the best that one of them was postponed
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 07, 2021, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:30:42 AM
restrictions are still too tight - always going to happen.
End of  October when the majority of the population will be vaccinated and its outdoor event.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Yeah I get that too but just with the way restrictions are going and the fact that the CMO said that the country was in wave 4 I just would not be convinced that vaccines or not things would be relaxed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2021, 10:23:13 PM
Some great results in the euro u20 athletics. Four gold medals and top of the medal table with one day to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on July 18, 2021, 12:23:39 AM
Incredible from young Griggs especially after losing his brother recently.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2021, 08:24:54 AM
I think he had more in him too. 817 for 3000 at 16. Crazy
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 18, 2021, 08:31:11 AM
Rhasidat Adeleke looks like she is a real talent also.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2021, 01:50:42 PM
Should be at the olympics. Some good sprint talent coming through. Mc Phillips also a good one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: barelegs on July 18, 2021, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 18, 2021, 08:24:54 AM
I think he had more in him too. 817 for 3000 at 16. Crazy

He had done 8.11 at the Irish U20 championships last month. 14.15PB for the 5k earlier in the year as well. For a lad only training seriously for the last year or so he's bound to be one to keep an eye on. I see a few people who know a lot more about athletics than me reckon he's one of the best Irish athletes at his age they've ever seen
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AnGaelGearmanach on July 19, 2021, 10:08:04 AM
See that griggs lad won and his brother passed away not too long ago. What talent
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on July 19, 2021, 11:53:13 PM
Tommy, what's the craic with Scullion? Attention seeking or genuine issues about his on/off Olympics appearance?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 20, 2021, 08:35:07 AM
I wouldn't want to play down mental health issues but I would have my doubts about him No1. I would stray into thinking the attention seeking category tbh but who can be sure.

I saw him on some controversy with some Dennehy article on twitter yesterday where some boy was questioning his comments about the troubles etc in the early noughties and he was none too pleased. Controversy never seems too far away from him.

Hugely talented.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Boycey on August 01, 2021, 10:19:23 PM
Maybe it's been on before but I've not seen it...

The documentary currently on Sky Documentaries about Kipchoges sub two hour marathon attempt is some watch. Incredible feat of organisation not to mention his supreme talent obviously....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 02, 2021, 04:09:28 PM
Absolute sh*t show in Belfast today for the bag collection for tomorrows marathon, people queuing for over 2 hours in the cold, hardly ideal preparation for any runners. The queue stretched right down ormeau embankment when I was leaving, hearing the people who arrived a bit later were queuing for over 3 hours, total disgrace from the organisers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2021, 07:04:44 PM
Speedy they are a bunch of cowboys. It is just one thing after another after another with them. They don't care because they will never be held to account for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedHand88 on October 02, 2021, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 02, 2021, 04:09:28 PM
Absolute sh*t show in Belfast today for the bag collection for tomorrows marathon, people queuing for over 2 hours in the cold, hardly ideal preparation for any runners. The queue stretched right down ormeau embankment when I was leaving, hearing the people who arrived a bit later were queuing for over 3 hours, total disgrace from the organisers.

Not surprised. Compared to Dublin or London it is a complete and utterly travesty. Expect to see hundreds of relay runners standing in the rain waiting on shuttle buses back to Ormeau. And if you don't know where to go, don't expect any help from Janty in the high-vis.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2021, 07:35:53 PM
The more you read about it the more you think the organisers are just a bunch of crooks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2021, 09:53:11 PM
Wasn't there problems with Belfast before? Was it there that had the course measured wrong?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2021, 09:55:19 PM
The last one was long. It was supposedly a wrong turn by the lead car rather than the course being measured wrong.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedHand88 on October 03, 2021, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2021, 09:55:19 PM
The last one was long. It was supposedly a wrong turn by the lead car rather than the course being measured wrong.

Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
How did the Belfast Marathon go today?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2021, 07:47:48 PM
I'd couple of friends doing London today, one was his first very respectable 4.29 and the other one finished 3.29.58 seconds!! One of the runners is a cancer survivor too.

Watched some of it today. Some set up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 03, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
How did the Belfast Marathon go today?
after yesterday it was hard to get any worse. Never heard many complaints about today, got the bus to the start line and again after the race back to the city centre and everything seemed to go well. One complaint I would have is the lack of toilets at the start.
Despite a tough head wind in places i managed to end up with a pb of 2hrs 58, was obviously happy with that 😛
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2021, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 03, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
How did the Belfast Marathon go today?
after yesterday it was hard to get any worse. Never heard many complaints about today, got the bus to the start line and again after the race back to the city centre and everything seemed to go well. One complaint I would have is the lack of toilets at the start.
Despite a tough head wind in places i managed to end up with a pb of 2hrs 58, was obviously happy with that 😛

Difficult course? Have ran most of the older course but was it quick considering your pb?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 10:08:31 PM
Mr that course is rough enough. I did the relay two years ago up round falls, through peace walls and into north Belfast - that's definitely rough going for full marathoners. I definitely saw a lot of people stopping there though I was in a team who were round the four hour mark when I started so, no offense to anyone, wouldn't have been the elite end. Belfast , this course and the last, is not known for being quick. The winner today I think has a pb significantly quicker than what he did today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2021, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 10:08:31 PM
Mr that course is rough enough. I did the relay two years ago up round falls, through peace walls and into north Belfast - that's definitely rough going for full marathoners. I definitely saw a lot of people stopping there though I was in a team who were round the four hour mark when I started so, no offense to anyone, wouldn't have been the elite end. Belfast , this course and the last, is not known for being quick. The winner today I think has a pb significantly quicker than what he did today.

Might start getting back at it again, whether that's full marathons or back into tri's but missing that atmosphere
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 03, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
How did the Belfast Marathon go today?
after yesterday it was hard to get any worse. Never heard many complaints about today, got the bus to the start line and again after the race back to the city centre and everything seemed to go well. One complaint I would have is the lack of toilets at the start.
Despite a tough head wind in places i managed to end up with a pb of 2hrs 58, was obviously happy with that 😛
Sub 3,  brilliant, well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on October 03, 2021, 10:54:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2021, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on October 03, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
How did the Belfast Marathon go today?
after yesterday it was hard to get any worse. Never heard many complaints about today, got the bus to the start line and again after the race back to the city centre and everything seemed to go well. One complaint I would have is the lack of toilets at the start.
Despite a tough head wind in places i managed to end up with a pb of 2hrs 58, was obviously happy with that 😛

Difficult course? Have ran most of the older course but was it quick considering your pb?
definitely isnt an easy course, into North Belfast was a real drag and ormeau rd is always a killer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2021, 08:50:21 AM
Great time btw Sheedy. Not easy breaking 3 anywhere never mind Belfast. A good few ones I would have trained with did it and all suffered a bit at the end.

My claim to fame is I once beat someone who finished in the top ten however that was a long long time ago lol.

Tommy Hughes at 60/61 ran 2:30 in the London marathon. The times that guy runs are ridiculous. His son ran 2:29.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 04, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/3EIFRX7NR35Q/img-20211003-wa0011.jpg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
I knew things sounded like they'd gone too smoothly lol.

belfast a big city marathon that does seem to get numbers and this year they have been lucky with Dublin being cancelled so got very big numbers. There is a feel good factor of it round the city etc but that doesn't escape the fact that the organisers are a disgrace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2021, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
I knew things sounded like they'd gone too smoothly lol.

belfast a big city marathon that does seem to get numbers and this year they have been lucky with Dublin being cancelled so got very big numbers. There is a feel good factor of it round the city etc but that doesn't escape the fact that the organisers are a disgrace.

Which is strange as the wife was heading over to the daughters and roads were closed.

I headed over later around 1pm and on the Falls some roads were closed but not entirely enforced! Boys ignoring the signs, probably more marshals would have helped and some courtesy from drivers.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eamonnca1 on October 04, 2021, 09:32:52 PM
I tip my hat to marathon runners. I ran a 10k yesterday and got it tight enough. Would love to commit to a marathon at some point. Would there be any value in starting with a half marathon? My level of fitness is I could go a 5k with no training, a 10k with about a week of preparation, and I've never done a half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedHand88 on October 04, 2021, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 04, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/3EIFRX7NR35Q/img-20211003-wa0011.jpg

Would well believe this. I've done legs of it before and been stopped by a high vis directing traffic/runners.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2021, 07:39:25 AM
Value in what way Eamonn? In terms of prepping for a marathon? Ten miles and half marathon good race distances to get you started longer.

Tbf usually at the later times they have to start opening the roads up so there are some issues.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on November 16, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Does anyone here know if there will be entries available for Dublin Marathon in 2022 or will it be closed due to the volume of carry overs from 2020 & 2021?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 16, 2021, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 04, 2021, 09:32:52 PM
I tip my hat to marathon runners. I ran a 10k yesterday and got it tight enough. Would love to commit to a marathon at some point. Would there be any value in starting with a half marathon? My level of fitness is I could go a 5k with no training, a 10k with about a week of preparation, and I've never done a half.

A half is definitely a good goal. I found the step up from 10K to half is not too bad. A marathon is a much bigger leap. I would say if you could get to a 10K in a week you could make a half in a month (though it would be worth training for longer).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 17, 2021, 06:36:06 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on November 16, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Does anyone here know if there will be entries available for Dublin Marathon in 2022 or will it be closed due to the volume of carry overs from 2020 & 2021?
Don't think there will be any available. I've seen people ask them on Twitter and that has been their answer. Now unless there will be a few available nearer the time because people who have entries have to drop out for whatever reason, but it will have been 3 years since a Dublin Marathon took place so next October is gonna be very popular and anyone that has a entry will be keen to do it.
Luckily I still have my entry from 2020
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on November 17, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
That's disappointing. Trust me to have opted to take a year off in 2020 and now will miss out!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on November 17, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
That's disappointing. Trust me to have opted to take a year off in 2020 and now will miss out!

Amsterdam race (if on) is pretty decent
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on November 17, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
That's disappointing. Trust me to have opted to take a year off in 2020 and now will miss out!
Possible chance of a lottery for limited entries if enough people claim a refund according to this in the comments underneath the post.
https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/1462707697468461056?s=21
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 12, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
Great performance by the Irish at the cross-country in Abbotstown
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 20, 2021, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on November 17, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
That's disappointing. Trust me to have opted to take a year off in 2020 and now will miss out!
Here you go, get your name in the hat..
https://www.facebook.com/291874688184/posts/10159911564238185/?d=n
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on December 20, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
Thanks @laoislad it's great news (provided I am lucky!)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2021, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 12, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
Great performance by the Irish at the cross-country in Abbotstown

Missed this. Great performance from McElhinny. The English boy that wee bit too strong but he did well. Dublin city track club re making some progress too. Wasn't there a boy finished top ten? McCormick / Britton strogn as an ox as usual.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 31, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
Worst part of a new year is my Strava stats reset to 0 😁
2300km ran this year, down a couple hundred on last year.Have a goal of getting to 3000km next year.
Hopefully all races return as normal next year. Have a half Marathon in Meath in March first up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2021, 09:39:24 PM
Try and get under 4 ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 31, 2021, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 31, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
Worst part of a new year is my Strava stats reset to 0 😁
2300km ran this year, down a couple hundred on last year.Have a goal of getting to 3000km next year.
Hopefully all races return as normal next year. Have a half Marathon in Meath in March first up.

I feel can type in this thread now....looking forward to doing this half marathon,  all blame laying on your door and that Monaghan fecker!  Not doing your kinda mileage but getting there!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on December 31, 2021, 09:52:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 31, 2021, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 31, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
Worst part of a new year is my Strava stats reset to 0 😁
2300km ran this year, down a couple hundred on last year.Have a goal of getting to 3000km next year.
Hopefully all races return as normal next year. Have a half Marathon in Meath in March first up.

I feel can type in this thread now....looking forward to doing this half marathon,  all blame laying on your door and that Monaghan fecker!  Not doing your kinda mileage but getting there!
You're doing mighty. Should be good craic alright. I reckon we kick the shins off him before the start 😁
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on December 31, 2021, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 31, 2021, 06:40:12 PM
Worst part of a new year is my Strava stats reset to 0 😁
2300km ran this year, down a couple hundred on last year.Have a goal of getting to 3000km next year.
Hopefully all races return as normal next year. Have a half Marathon in Meath in March first up.
hopefully all the races go ahead. Dublin marathon especially. Working in miles I managed to hit 1970 miles for the year, 50 miles down on last year 😔
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 01, 2022, 01:56:11 PM
Only my first full year running, managed (what I thought was a decent number until LL put up his stats) 1270kms at an average 4:47. It's a bug I never thought I'd have. New runners needed already
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 5times5times on January 01, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Been dragged into a half marathon later this summer.. Slightly novice runner.. Anyone any tips/websites/plans to follow on best way to train? Tks!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 01, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 01, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Been dragged into a half marathon later this summer.. Slightly novice runner.. Anyone any tips/websites/plans to follow on best way to train? Tks!!
Depends on what you want out of it? Have you a goal time or is just finishing enough?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 01, 2022, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 01, 2022, 01:56:11 PM
Only my first full year running, managed (what I thought was a decent number until LL put up his stats) 1270kms at an average 4:47. It's a bug I never thought I'd have. New runners needed already
Yeah once it gets a hold of you it's a hard habit to break, not a bad habit to have though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 04:22:16 PM
Anyone get a new running watch for Xmas or would like to recommend one for me?? I'm guessing their are watches at £500 that are amazing but a bit less will do me tbh, cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 04, 2022, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 04:22:16 PM
Anyone get a new running watch for Xmas or would like to recommend one for me?? I'm guessing their are watches at £500 that are amazing but a bit less will do me tbh, cheers
Garmin forerunner best bet. Few different varieties depending on needs and wants. Ones with music, contactless etc. Won't need to go near £500 unless you want top spec.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2022, 04:28:24 PM
The 245 forerunner isn't too badly priced. I am going to get one of them as the toddler wrecked my garmin  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 5times5times on January 04, 2022, 04:56:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 01, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 01, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Been dragged into a half marathon later this summer.. Slightly novice runner.. Anyone any tips/websites/plans to follow on best way to train? Tks!!
Depends on what you want out of it? Have you a goal time or is just finishing enough?

Finishing i suppose, but not to make a sham out of myself!! Circa 2-2.5hrs is what i'd imagine?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 04, 2022, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 04, 2022, 04:56:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 01, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 01, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Been dragged into a half marathon later this summer.. Slightly novice runner.. Anyone any tips/websites/plans to follow on best way to train? Tks!!
Depends on what you want out of it? Have you a goal time or is just finishing enough?

Finishing i suppose, but not to make a sham out of myself!! Circa 2-2.5hrs is what i'd imagine?
There's lads with more knowledge than me in here but if you just want to finish then a few runs a week between 6-8km  and a long run at the weekend should do you fine. Increase the long run every few weeks. If you got up to 16km/10miles a few weeks before your race then you should be able finish the Half Marathon no problems. Wouldn't worry about making a sham of yourself(you won't anyway), you're out doing it that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 04, 2022, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 04, 2022, 04:28:24 PM
The 245 forerunner isn't too badly priced. I am going to get one of them as the toddler wrecked my garmin  :-\
I broke my 245 also. Bought a Coros Pace 2 to tide me over. Was €150 so cheap enough.
The 245 is a few years old now so I'd expect a new version out soon that's why I didn't buy another 245.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2022, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 04:22:16 PM
Anyone get a new running watch for Xmas or would like to recommend one for me?? I'm guessing their are watches at £500 that are amazing but a bit less will do me tbh, cheers

Got the Garmin Fenix 6 sapphire for my birthday the other day! Have no idea of it's full potential but so far so good.

Need a few runs on it and see how it performs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
Do any of the watches you have link to Spotify for example?? I prefer to listen to music as I run,have always just carried my phone in my pocket with my Strava turned on just as I begin to run and Spotify playing into my wireless headphones,
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2022, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
Do any of the watches you have link to Spotify for example?? I prefer to listen to music as I run,have always just carried my phone in my pocket with my Strava turned on just as I begin to run and Spotify playing into my wireless headphones,

This can hold 100's of songs and Bluetooth it to your Bluetooth earphones
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2022, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
Do any of the watches you have link to Spotify for example?? I prefer to listen to music as I run,have always just carried my phone in my pocket with my Strava turned on just as I begin to run and Spotify playing into my wireless headphones,
The missus has the Garmin Venu 2s which has Spotify. More of a general fitness watch than an out and out runner, but I looked at the 245 Music for her and as the name suggests it has Spotify integration.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2022, 08:55:19 PM
I have linked to Spotify for years. I think it was a 645 forerunner music. The 245 forerunner music would do the same. Watch and Bluetooth headphones and you're carrying very little.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 05, 2022, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
Do any of the watches you have link to Spotify for example?? I prefer to listen to music as I run,have always just carried my phone in my pocket with my Strava turned on just as I begin to run and Spotify playing into my wireless headphones,

I have the Garmin 645 music, works great holds 500 songs on Spotify, you do need a Spotify premium account.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lfdown2 on January 05, 2022, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 04, 2022, 04:56:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 01, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on January 01, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Been dragged into a half marathon later this summer.. Slightly novice runner.. Anyone any tips/websites/plans to follow on best way to train? Tks!!
Depends on what you want out of it? Have you a goal time or is just finishing enough?

Finishing i suppose, but not to make a sham out of myself!! Circa 2-2.5hrs is what i'd imagine?

https://www.halhigdon.com/ (https://www.halhigdon.com/)

Find Hal's programs great, think someone recommended them here a good few years ago
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 05, 2022, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 05, 2022, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: bigfrank on January 04, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
Do any of the watches you have link to Spotify for example?? I prefer to listen to music as I run,have always just carried my phone in my pocket with my Strava turned on just as I begin to run and Spotify playing into my wireless headphones,

I have the Garmin 245 music, works great holds 500 songs on Spotify, you do need a Spotify premium account.
Do most of you run with music? I hardly ever do. On a treadmill yeah all the time but 99% of the time outside I don't.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2022, 11:18:04 AM
I would when I'm running on my own. I prefer it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 05, 2022, 11:33:45 AM
I'd be lost without some music or a podcast to listen to. I'd have to listen to myself!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
Just started back running again and on first run during warm up mile I started getting Achilles pain. Not severe but restricting a bit. I know these sort of injuries can just happen but usually when increasing the load. This was literally my first run in months. So annoying when finally decided to get back into it.
I continued on and it was sore for first mile and a half or so then seemed to loosen up. But very sore next day so left it 3-4 days and tried another run. Same thing.
Again left it another decent break but same again. Just sore when starting and then really sore next day.
Really frustrating. And one any good ways of treating the Achilles that doesn't involve resting it for ages.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 11, 2022, 03:49:49 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.

Can I ask does the sound of the cars/traffic not drown out what you are listening to?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 11, 2022, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.

I always loved to run with earphones in and listen to podcasts etc.  started cycling last year and just didnt feel safe on the roads with earphones in.  I missed having that distraction. Do you still feel that you are able to have your wits about you with these on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.

I thought about those for someone in my family with hearing issues as I thought they may help but never for running tbh.

trueblue I get achilles issues more than I should. It's not always the achilles is the issue. Poor hip function / mobility can cause it. There's a load of exercises can be done - working at home I have found a killer for tightness etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 11, 2022, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2022, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.

I always loved to run with earphones in and listen to podcasts etc.  started cycling last year and just didnt feel safe on the roads with earphones in.  I missed having that distraction. Do you still feel that you are able to have your wits about you with these on?
Get a varia rear radar for bike. great job
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 11, 2022, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on January 05, 2022, 11:33:45 AM
I'd be lost without some music or a podcast to listen to. I'd have to listen to myself!
I dunno, I sort of just zone out when I'm running and don't even be thinking about much. I'm nearly in a zen like state especially on the longer slow runs.I ran for over 2hrs today nice and easy and I honestly dunno where the couple of hours went as it felt like it was over in a flash.Listening to music just sort of annoys me, but then my taste in music is brutal so there is that  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 11, 2022, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 08, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
Has anyone got the AfterShokz bone conducting headphones? I got a set for Christmas and was rather skeptical re music quality but have to say I'm very impressed. Sound quality is excellent considering they aren't in ear headphones.

I recently got a road racing bike and standard headphones would be much too dangerous out on the roads but these did a fantastic job of giving me peripheral awareness of cars and music at same time.

I thought about those for someone in my family with hearing issues as I thought they may help but never for running tbh.

trueblue I get achilles issues more than I should. It's not always the achilles is the issue. Poor hip function / mobility can cause it. There's a load of exercises can be done - working at home I have found a killer for tightness etc.
Nearly all my ailments are related to sitting on my hole all day/poor posture. Latest is a psoas muscle spasm. Couple of years ago was hip flexor and before that shoulder rotator cuff, also related to sitting hunched over a PC. I find my achilles very tight with the right one sore to the touch.  Was told years ago to do Pilates but might actually have to do something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 07:30:08 PM
Pilates is very good. I don't have the time at the minute to do it and can really feel the difference not doing it. It always made a massive difference to my running. (It takes ages for you to see the benefit btw if you ever get round to doing it. That may not be what you want to hear  :D)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 08:21:32 PM
I'm working from home for the last 2 years as well. Think it definitely has an impact. Really don't want to rest it now when only started again. But also wary I don't want to kick the can down the road either until it becomes worse and need longer recover. 😢
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
Just started back running again and on first run during warm up mile I started getting Achilles pain. Not severe but restricting a bit. I know these sort of injuries can just happen but usually when increasing the load. This was literally my first run in months. So annoying when finally decided to get back into it.
I continued on and it was sore for first mile and a half or so then seemed to loosen up. But very sore next day so left it 3-4 days and tried another run. Same thing.
Again left it another decent break but same again. Just sore when starting and then really sore next day.
Really frustrating. And one any good ways of treating the Achilles that doesn't involve resting it for ages.

If it's your first run in months then it should have been a very slow 2 miler no more, your body isn't like your head thinking ah sure I'll be grand!

Rest is best! Did a match yesterday, first since mid December, knee hurts like crazy, it's carrying all my Xmas weight! Not good
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 08:55:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
Just started back running again and on first run during warm up mile I started getting Achilles pain. Not severe but restricting a bit. I know these sort of injuries can just happen but usually when increasing the load. This was literally my first run in months. So annoying when finally decided to get back into it.
I continued on and it was sore for first mile and a half or so then seemed to loosen up. But very sore next day so left it 3-4 days and tried another run. Same thing.
Again left it another decent break but same again. Just sore when starting and then really sore next day.
Really frustrating. And one any good ways of treating the Achilles that doesn't involve resting it for ages.

If it's your first run in months then it should have been a very slow 2 miler no more, your body isn't like your head thinking ah sure I'll be grand!

Rest is best! Did a match yesterday, first since mid December, knee hurts like crazy, it's carrying all my Xmas weight! Not good
It was a real slow one. And pain started in the 2nd mile.  Haven't pushed at all since, everything been round 70% pace. Rested for 6 months and was hoping to try and build up but not looking likely now!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 08:55:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
Just started back running again and on first run during warm up mile I started getting Achilles pain. Not severe but restricting a bit. I know these sort of injuries can just happen but usually when increasing the load. This was literally my first run in months. So annoying when finally decided to get back into it.
I continued on and it was sore for first mile and a half or so then seemed to loosen up. But very sore next day so left it 3-4 days and tried another run. Same thing.
Again left it another decent break but same again. Just sore when starting and then really sore next day.
Really frustrating. And one any good ways of treating the Achilles that doesn't involve resting it for ages.

If it's your first run in months then it should have been a very slow 2 miler no more, your body isn't like your head thinking ah sure I'll be grand!

Rest is best! Did a match yesterday, first since mid December, knee hurts like crazy, it's carrying all my Xmas weight! Not good
It was a real slow one. And pain started in the 2nd mile.  Haven't pushed at all since, everything been round 70% pace. Rested for 6 months and was hoping to try and build up but not looking likely now!!

Last year I went to a sports physio for the same knee that's flaring up now, 6/7 sessions and I was back at it, all my normal stuff and doing the Mournes about 20 times .

Mine was down to not strengthening the muscles around the joint, gyms were closed, start working on strengthening that Achilles, hopefully that'll lessen the pressure on it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on January 13, 2022, 06:17:53 PM
RIP Ashling Murphy, she was only going for a run😢
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 13, 2022, 08:09:00 PM
Absolutely horrendous  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 13, 2022, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 13, 2022, 08:09:00 PM
Absolutely horrendous  >:(
Have been thinking about it all day, I dunno if it is the runner angle of the story but I can't stop thinking about her. Imagine putting on your runners,heading out the door and that happening to you.
It's just sickening. Some absolute sick bastards out there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 13, 2022, 09:31:27 PM
Four o'clock in the day. Unbelievable. I think it's the runner angle too as I would nearly feel the same. Just unbelievable that someone would have it in them to do something like this >:(

I read a while ago about eilish mccolgan and she was saying she wouldn't run at night. The world's not a safe place for women sometimes  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on December 20, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
Thanks @laoislad it's great news (provided I am lucky!)
Ballot results announce today, did you get in?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on January 17, 2022, 01:22:17 PM
I did indeed, I'm delighted. I've a bit of unfinished business to deal with...!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on January 17, 2022, 01:22:17 PM
I did indeed, I'm delighted. I've a bit of unfinished business to deal with...!
Good stuff 👍
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 01:30:11 PM
I've signed up for the 3/4 Marathon in Longwood 3 weeks before Dublin.
Will use it as the last long run before the Marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 17, 2022, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on December 20, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
Thanks @laoislad it's great news (provided I am lucky!)
Ballot results announce today, did you get in?

Was successful as well!! Have never ran more than 10km so this will be a big step up... something to aim for though and I've always wanted to do a marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on January 17, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
Dublin marathon is something else, the atmosphere around the course is brilliant and the fact it's a familiar city to me helps as well. Hopefully everyone stays injury free now and the training block goes well 🤞🏾
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
Yeah it's a good one alright. Tough though, lot of climbing for the first 15 miles or so. The atmosphere is something else right throughout the course.
Can't wait for it though, hopefully it and the Race Series go ahead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 17, 2022, 03:41:32 PM
I'm completely stumped by the old running.  I just cant seem to get it going again with constant calf problems.  I sort of quit at the start of last year and cycled instead and i'd no calf issues at all.  I even did a few recreational Gaelic sessions on the pitch and had no calf problems.  Then i bit the bullet yesterday and did a 2k junior park run with the child and up pops the old injury. Not during the activity this time but pain later in the day.

Gonna really have to consider some physio work to get this sorted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 17, 2022, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
Yeah it's a good one alright. Tough though, lot of climbing for the first 15 miles or so. The atmosphere is something else right throughout the course.
Can't wait for it though, hopefully it and the Race Series go ahead.

Feck that all the reviews I read said it was fairly flat except for a big hill on mile 21!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 05:07:19 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 17, 2022, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
Yeah it's a good one alright. Tough though, lot of climbing for the first 15 miles or so. The atmosphere is something else right throughout the course.
Can't wait for it though, hopefully it and the Race Series go ahead.

Feck that all the reviews I read said it was fairly flat except for a big hill on mile 21!!
You're basically climbing from mile 2 from Stoneybatter thru the Phoenix Park to past Castleknock until at around 7miles.3 miles of downhills then coming back down through the Phoenix Park but a pretty big hill at mile 10 after Chapelizod,then another uphill drag all up the Crumlin Road to the Walkinstown Roundabout which is about 15miles in.
You're good then till around Clonskeagh at around 20miles where there will be  a few uphill drags and then Roebuck which is the one you read about which is a killer. It's short but it's steep especially that far into a Marathon.
You'll be grand though  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Very hard to do 26 miles anywhere without hills.

Lurganblue I have had those issues you are having. For me they were, and still are but not as much, not calf issues - they were basically hip function. Running is unforgiving and will expose issues like that like no other sports will. That's not to say your issues are the same but I know a few ones who get calf issues with issues further up the chain.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on January 17, 2022, 07:20:24 PM
For anyone doing marathon training for first time make sure you have decent pair of trainers, the miles are unforgiving on the joints. They don't have to be the dearest brand going, just ones that aren't worn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 17, 2022, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 17, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Very hard to do 26 miles anywhere without hills.

Lurganblue I have had those issues you are having. For me they were, and still are but not as much, not calf issues - they were basically hip function. Running is unforgiving and will expose issues like that like no other sports will. That's not to say your issues are the same but I know a few ones who get calf issues with issues further up the chain.

I wouldn't be surprised, as I sit most of the day for my job. Can't be good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2022, 08:58:01 PM
I find that too lurganblue. Making a conscious effort this year to get more active when not running. The sitting ruins posture, glutes, hip flexors etc. Try and find a way to keep mobile even with the sitting and it will help you no end.

Pilates is very helpful. The more I do of it the less I struggle with any niggles but it's finding the time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on January 18, 2022, 07:24:47 AM
Can anyone recommend a good headlight? My current model is about to give up on me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2022, 08:37:34 AM
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/rechargeable-trekking-head-torch-trek-100-usb-120-lumens/_/R-p-302568?mc=8577504&c=GREEN (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/rechargeable-trekking-head-torch-trek-100-usb-120-lumens/_/R-p-302568?mc=8577504&c=GREEN)

I just bought this one out of decathlon. I can't speak about longevity etc but seems dead on to me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2022, 08:40:34 AM
I hate these bloody bright lights along the towpath st Loughshore, they are blinding depending on their position! My wee dogs don't like them either lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2022, 08:42:13 AM
There are settings on them though that you don't need to be using the one that blinds everyone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 30, 2022, 05:48:14 PM
Any of ye do the Raheny 5 Miler today? Hearing it was measured long.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on January 30, 2022, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2022, 05:48:14 PM
Any of ye do the Raheny 5 Miler today? Hearing it was measured long.
know a few that done it and on their Strava it was 5.25 miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2022, 08:52:16 PM
Why did they change the route? Sure the old route was great. Although granted I haven't done it in a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on January 30, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2022, 08:52:16 PM
Why did they change the route? Sure the old route was great. Although granted I haven't done it in a while.
From reading another forum, apparently the turn around cone was but in the wrong place, added about 500 meters to the course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
I did a 10k race years ago where it was 400 metres short. It is very frustrating because if that race was the right length it would have been my pb! That's usually a great race - they'll be mortified.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2022, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
I did a 10k race years ago where it was 400 metres short. It is very frustrating because if that race was the right length it would have been my pb! That's usually a great race - they'll be mortified.

Though if you stick to your strava result then you're fine
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 12:30:39 PM
For you more seasoned runners, got a half marathon up now next wkend. I haven't really been following any training plan and have just been tipping on myself. Had few injury issues in Jan so been a very slow build up pace wise. Have the distance up to 12 miles there at around 8.45 per mile without really killing myself. But at the same time I'd know I'd been running!!
Would have loved to come in at 1hr 45 but that would mean nearly 8min miles. Is that too optimistic do you think? Don't want to hit the wall completely on the last mile or two.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
I don't want to be too pessimistic but probably...

Are there any pacers or anything? Might be worth trying it for a few mile and seeing how you go but if you're stretching it drop back a bit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2022, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 12:30:39 PM
For you more seasoned runners, got a half marathon up now next wkend. I haven't really been following any training plan and have just been tipping on myself. Had few injury issues in Jan so been a very slow build up pace wise. Have the distance up to 12 miles there at around 8.45 per mile without really killing myself. But at the same time I'd know I'd been running!!
Would have loved to come in at 1hr 45 but that would mean nearly 8min miles. Is that too optimistic do you think? Don't want to hit the wall completely on the last mile or two.
Have you run any miles at 8 min pace? It be a big enough jump to hold it for 13 miles if you're only used to doing 8:45 pace. If I was you I'd run the first 7-8 miles at 8:45 pace and if feeling good then push the pace for the last 5 miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 22, 2022, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 12:30:39 PM
For you more seasoned runners, got a half marathon up now next wkend. I haven't really been following any training plan and have just been tipping on myself. Had few injury issues in Jan so been a very slow build up pace wise. Have the distance up to 12 miles there at around 8.45 per mile without really killing myself. But at the same time I'd know I'd been running!!
Would have loved to come in at 1hr 45 but that would mean nearly 8min miles. Is that too optimistic do you think? Don't want to hit the wall completely on the last mile or two.
Have you run any miles at 8 min pace? It be a big enough jump to hold it for 13 miles if you're only used to doing 8:45 pace. If I was you I'd run the first 7-8 miles at 8:45 pace and if feeling good then push the pace for the last 5 miles.

Yeah done a few tempo runs with 2 mile warm up and then 3 miles at around the 7.30. But I know I'd struggle to have kept that pace for anything more than 4-5 miles. I've been really slack at tracking times and done no trial runs so really bit clueless for pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
I would suggest go conservative for a bit then see how you feel. I think it's too big a jump but you will run quicker than training pace.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
I don't want to be too pessimistic but probably...

Are there any pacers or anything? Might be worth trying it for a few mile and seeing how you go but if you're stretching it drop back a bit.
Yeah there's a 1.45 pacer. Which was part of the reason I was going to aim for if. But then when I worked out the pace per mile I was a bit surprised!!
First race in a long time so I suppose I'll have a better idea afterwards anyway!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bigfrank on March 22, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
Have a 1/2 marathon too,Likely the same one as was mentioned above. Ran the bundoran 10 miler few weeks ago in 1.17 so was hoping I would be able to stay with the 1.45 pacer next week but have never ran a half marathon race so could be wishful thinking. Training has been so so but gonna try buck myself up in the next 10 days or so to give the body a chance in the race,considering running the 13.1 this sat just so the body knows it can do it,would leave me 8 days to race,prob not ideal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
I don't want to be too pessimistic but probably...

Are there any pacers or anything? Might be worth trying it for a few mile and seeing how you go but if you're stretching it drop back a bit.
Yeah there's a 1.45 pacer. Which was part of the reason I was going to aim for if. But then when I worked out the pace per mile I was a bit surprised!!
First race in a long time so I suppose I'll have a better idea afterwards anyway!!

What type of course is it? A good mixture of flat and hills?

If you want to keep with the pacer and not sure of your own pace then hang back from him, don't pressurize yourself to keep staying with him as the hills can catch you out further on down the road, if you feel strong enough with around 3 miles then kick on. 1.45 is decent enough for a Half Marathon
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
I don't want to be too pessimistic but probably...

Are there any pacers or anything? Might be worth trying it for a few mile and seeing how you go but if you're stretching it drop back a bit.
Yeah there's a 1.45 pacer. Which was part of the reason I was going to aim for if. But then when I worked out the pace per mile I was a bit surprised!!
First race in a long time so I suppose I'll have a better idea afterwards anyway!!

What type of course is it? A good mixture of flat and hills?

If you want to keep with the pacer and not sure of your own pace then hang back from him, don't pressurize yourself to keep staying with him as the hills can catch you out further on down the road, if you feel strong enough with around 3 miles then kick on. 1.45 is decent enough for a Half Marathon
It's a mixed course to be honest. So not too bad. No real killer hills but a lot of up and down.
Really looking forward to it now. Just going to try and get a few short runs in over the next week or so and then few days rest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2022, 01:59:30 PM
Myself and Brokencrossbar1 had signed up to do a Half a few weeks ago but both of us got Covid the week of it!  ::)
Wouldn't mind but training had been going really well for me, had hoped for a 1:45 originally but was going to go with the sub 1:40 pacer based on how my training had gone. Was gutted I couldn't do it.
It's taken me a few weeks to get back running normally, couldn't breathe properly while running the first week back after having it. Awful dose to get.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 22, 2022, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
I don't want to be too pessimistic but probably...

Are there any pacers or anything? Might be worth trying it for a few mile and seeing how you go but if you're stretching it drop back a bit.
Yeah there's a 1.45 pacer. Which was part of the reason I was going to aim for if. But then when I worked out the pace per mile I was a bit surprised!!
First race in a long time so I suppose I'll have a better idea afterwards anyway!!

What type of course is it? A good mixture of flat and hills?

If you want to keep with the pacer and not sure of your own pace then hang back from him, don't pressurize yourself to keep staying with him as the hills can catch you out further on down the road, if you feel strong enough with around 3 miles then kick on. 1.45 is decent enough for a Half Marathon
It's a mixed course to be honest. So not too bad. No real killer hills but a lot of up and down.
Really looking forward to it now. Just going to try and get a few short runs in over the next week or so and then few days rest.

On the downs just stretch the legs that bit longer than normal and let the hill lift the pace, if its a popular race try and get away from the slow start as best you can and get into your rhythm early doors.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on March 22, 2022, 03:02:34 PM
Have a half coming up in the middle of May but haven't been able to run without my calf going for nearly 8 weeks... I think the physio has me on the right track now but it'll only be 6 weeks of training barring injury.

Is it doable? I'm not too arsed about time at this stage just hoping to get around in less than 2 hours.

The main goal is Dublin at the end of October so hopefully i can go full steam ahead for that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2022, 03:02:34 PM
Have a half coming up in the middle of May but haven't been able to run without my calf going for nearly 8 weeks... I think the physio has me on the right track now but it'll only be 6 weeks of training barring injury.

Is it doable? I'm not too arsed about time at this stage just hoping to get around in less than 2 hours.

The main goal is Dublin at the end of October so hopefully i can go full steam ahead for that.

Your taking this new Jack Reacher to heart lol!! A good paced jog will get you round without hampering the calf, providing your physio is confident. Is there a pace that you feel that the calf starts to ache or a distance?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on March 22, 2022, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2022, 03:02:34 PM
Have a half coming up in the middle of May but haven't been able to run without my calf going for nearly 8 weeks... I think the physio has me on the right track now but it'll only be 6 weeks of training barring injury.

Is it doable? I'm not too arsed about time at this stage just hoping to get around in less than 2 hours.

The main goal is Dublin at the end of October so hopefully i can go full steam ahead for that.

Your taking this new Jack Reacher to heart lol!! A good paced jog will get you round without hampering the calf, providing your physio is confident. Is there a pace that you feel that the calf starts to ache or a distance?

I haven't been going particularly fast it's gone on my short runs which are kind of around 8-8.5minute miles.

I got up to 10miles @ 10min mile pace at the end of Jan and it was fine then. Apparently I've a weakness in my hamstring which is putting too much pressure on the calf and if I can strengthen it over the next few weeks it should be OK.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:57:03 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 01, 2022, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
Did it go off without a hiccup today? Always seems to be something wrong happening at it.

Seemed to as far as I could see. No times out yet though but think they are always a bit slow on that.
Turned out a good enough day for it in the end. Was expecting a complete wash out at one point.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
did it myself, finished in 3 hours 2 mins, tough run, calf's cramped up in last few miles. Everything went well as far as I seen, rain held off well and pack collection was night and day from last year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
did it myself, finished in 3 hours 2 mins, tough run, calf's cramped up in last few miles. Everything went well as far as I seen, rain held off well and pack collection was night and day from last year.

That is some time well done. Must be putting in serious miles. Did a half a few weeks ago and think that is my limit for the time being. Just too many time constraints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
did it myself, finished in 3 hours 2 mins, tough run, calf's cramped up in last few miles. Everything went well as far as I seen, rain held off well and pack collection was night and day from last year.

That is some time well done. Must be putting in serious miles. Did a half a few weeks ago and think that is my limit for the time being. Just too many time constraints.
Doing about 40 miles a week, hadn't as many longer runs done in build up to this and it definitely showed in last few miles. Ormeau rd never gets easier.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2022, 10:51:56 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 09:40:25 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 01, 2022, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 01, 2022, 07:43:54 PM
Anyone do the Belfast Marathon the day?

Did one of the relay legs and thankfully rain held off.
did it myself, finished in 3 hours 2 mins, tough run, calf's cramped up in last few miles. Everything went well as far as I seen, rain held off well and pack collection was night and day from last year.

That is some time well done. Must be putting in serious miles. Did a half a few weeks ago and think that is my limit for the time being. Just too many time constraints.
Doing about 40 miles a week, hadn't as many longer runs done in build up to this and it definitely showed in last few miles. Ormeau rd never gets easier.

Ormeau is not easy, that gradual climb is a killer.amazing time all the same
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AnPuca on June 09, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Anyone ran in the Nike Pegasus shoes? A fella in the gym swears by them but he only wears them for doing 1 5k a month and he's not much of a runner.

I'm starting back running this week and aim on doing 2 nights a week to get started back and then will. Up the frequency as the fitness comes.

Any of the more seasoned runners here wear them that would recommend them? Or any good or negatives that you've experienced?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedHand88 on June 09, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: AnPuca on June 09, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Anyone ran in the Nike Pegasus shoes? A fella in the gym swears by them but he only wears them for doing 1 5k a month and he's not much of a runner.

I'm starting back running this week and aim on doing 2 nights a week to get started back and then will. Up the frequency as the fitness comes.

Any of the more seasoned runners here wear them that would recommend them? Or any good or negatives that you've experienced?

I'm a cyclist not a runner but 2 ones at work into their running are big into Pegasus.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 09, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: AnPuca on June 09, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Anyone ran in the Nike Pegasus shoes? A fella in the gym swears by them but he only wears them for doing 1 5k a month and he's not much of a runner.

I'm starting back running this week and aim on doing 2 nights a week to get started back and then will. Up the frequency as the fitness comes.

Any of the more seasoned runners here wear them that would recommend them? Or any good or negatives that you've experienced?

I'm a cyclist not a runner but 2 ones at work into their running are big into Pegasus.

Got a pair and wasn't overly impressed, I'm older now so prefer the big cushioned Hoka's
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on June 11, 2022, 09:15:15 PM
Does anyone know of any shop in Ireland that has a full stock of Nike running shoes? Everywhere I know of in the North seems to be stocked full of Brooks, New Balance, Saucony, Hoka but not a Nike shoe to be found.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on June 14, 2022, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on January 17, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
Dublin marathon is something else, the atmosphere around the course is brilliant and the fact it's a familiar city to me helps as well. Hopefully everyone stays injury free now and the training block goes well 🤞🏾
Signed up for this myself. Going to pace a friend to Sub 4 hopefully. He has a PB of 4:00:07 those pesky 7 seconds are killing him!
Tried to convince him Dublin might not be the best Marathon for a PB and to try one of the "easier"(basically flatter) European ones like Amsterdam or Rotterdam but he has his heart set on Dublin.
We're doing the first of the race series runs on Sunday. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 21, 2022, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 17, 2022, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on December 20, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
Thanks @laoislad it's great news (provided I am lucky!)
Ballot results announce today, did you get in?

Was successful as well!! Have never ran more than 10km so this will be a big step up... something to aim for though and I've always wanted to do a marathon.
100 days to go from today!
How's the training going lads?
I just started the training plan this week. Have been doing loads the last few months but the actual plan only started this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The Bearded One on July 21, 2022, 11:26:30 PM
Same as myself Laoislad, I've kept myself in reasonable shape since a few races I ran in March/April. Started my plan last week, intend to work in blocks of 4 weeks with every 4th week a deload before pushing on again for the next 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 13, 2022, 02:50:08 PM
Gonna be serious heat for Ironman Cork this weekend. Was down working in Cork yesterday and was talking to a fella who is doing it, dreading it he said. Last time he did it he said the weather was that bad they cancelled the swim section. Gonna be some carnage I'd say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
An ironman in that - Jesus.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2022, 03:50:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
An ironman in that - Jesus.

Sure they are a summer sport, it's done in hot countries right through the season, those lads are hearty
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on August 14, 2022, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
An ironman in that - Jesus.
Gonna be a tough day for them right enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2022, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: Turf on August 14, 2022, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 13, 2022, 03:48:01 PM
An ironman in that - Jesus.
Gonna be a tough day for them right enough.

Seriously? You want the water to be decent not typically Irish cold, these lads/lassies train for this..

I've friends who travel the world doing these in hotter countries than here, they'll be grand
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on August 16, 2022, 08:27:37 PM
Some performance from Olatunde in the 100mts at the European Championships.
Through to the European Final.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 17, 2022, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: Turf on August 16, 2022, 08:27:37 PM
Some performance from Olatunde in the 100mts at the European Championships.
Through to the European Final.

massive talent for the future
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 18, 2022, 08:46:30 PM
Ingebrigtsen only looked like he was jogging there compared to the rest of them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2022, 09:51:01 PM
He was comfortable. Coscoran probably not quite at this level yet but hopefully he strengthens up and can compete further up the field.

I can't find 5000 times to see if Flanagan got a new Irish record.

Going to be very interesting what the other two do in the future. I would expect European medal prospects anyway. Looking forward to mageean race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 18, 2022, 10:29:02 PM
Don't post here often but looking for a bit of advice on how to improve my 5k time. Pb is 21 but looking to get consistently sub 20.

My weekly routine is 4 days ~10k, 1 day ~20k, 1 rest day and 1 day 5k.

I guess I'm probably running too much if my aim is to improve 5k? Also do a bit of weights machines for the legs and a bit of other cardio.

Appreciate any advice, thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on August 18, 2022, 10:29:02 PM
Don't post here often but looking for a bit of advice on how to improve my 5k time. Pb is 21 but looking to get consistently sub 20.

My weekly routine is 4 days ~10k, 1 day ~20k, 1 rest day and 1 day 5k.

I guess I'm probably running too much if my aim is to improve 5k? Also do a bit of weights machines for the legs and a bit of other cardio.

Appreciate any advice, thanks.

If you want to be sub 5k then run 5k more often! Its like anything, you train for it, sub 20 is giving it the welly the whole way round..

Do the park run near you and get chatting to lads that are hitting it or just below it and test yourself against them. Getting consistently below it is tough, only managed it once but was always on the 20 for a long time.

Pick a flat park run  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ty4Sam on August 18, 2022, 11:27:43 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on August 18, 2022, 10:29:02 PM
Don't post here often but looking for a bit of advice on how to improve my 5k time. Pb is 21 but looking to get consistently sub 20.

My weekly routine is 4 days ~10k, 1 day ~20k, 1 rest day and 1 day 5k.

I guess I'm probably running too much if my aim is to improve 5k? Also do a bit of weights machines for the legs and a bit of other cardio.

Appreciate any advice, thanks.

You need to improve your leg speed/turnover. One interval or hill session a week will help greatly. Loads online for you. Throw in hills into your longer runs as well which will strengthen your legs. 5ks are painful if run correctly so get the right frame of mind before a race, as someone said race someone that's a little faster than you, when you beat them, move onto someone else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on August 19, 2022, 07:03:09 AM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on August 18, 2022, 10:29:02 PM
Don't post here often but looking for a bit of advice on how to improve my 5k time. Pb is 21 but looking to get consistently sub 20.

My weekly routine is 4 days ~10k, 1 day ~20k, 1 rest day and 1 day 5k.

I guess I'm probably running too much if my aim is to improve 5k? Also do a bit of weights machines for the legs and a bit of other cardio.

Appreciate any advice, thanks.
Run more, run further than 5km and run slower on the longer runs.
Once or twice a week do some sort of interval session.
Don't be going out trying to break your PB every time you run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2022, 08:43:52 AM
This^^ The first limiting factor is probably fitness as opposed to speed. Slower long runs to get that fitness up then when you build that up things intervals - start with hill reps to get the strength up then after a few weeks something like 400s.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2022, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2022, 08:43:52 AM
This^^ The first limiting factor is probably fitness as opposed to speed. Slower long runs to get that fitness up then when you build that up things intervals - start with hill reps to get the strength up then after a few weeks something like 400s.

He's running 65k a week, think he's running plenty, and I'd assume with that distance his fitness may be ok? his thing is to get under 20 mins for 5k, for me that worked by doing the parkruns running with lads that were doing under 20 while chatting during the run, I'm nearly sure there was a lad that pushed a pram round with his kid in it while doing under 20mins!

But I suppose you'd be a better student of the running in comparison to my 'hectic' running

I'd say being in a running club would be a huge benefit also.. I'd be happy with 23 now if I'm being honest...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 19, 2022, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on August 18, 2022, 10:29:02 PM
Don't post here often but looking for a bit of advice on how to improve my 5k time. Pb is 21 but looking to get consistently sub 20.

My weekly routine is 4 days ~10k, 1 day ~20k, 1 rest day and 1 day 5k.

I guess I'm probably running too much if my aim is to improve 5k? Also do a bit of weights machines for the legs and a bit of other cardio.

Appreciate any advice, thanks.
This is my goal for next year. Currently Marathon training but that in itself should help my 5km time but not going to give one a proper go until Marathon is over.
Last proper one I did I was low 21 mins but with all the running I've been doing for Marathon training I feel I could go under 21 right now but wouldn't be close to sub 20 yet.
Let's us know how you get on 👍
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 19, 2022, 10:38:33 AM
Thanks everyone.

I'll try more disciplined interval and hill runs.  I'll let you know of any progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on August 19, 2022, 09:24:24 PM
Brilliant running tonight by Ciara Mageean to get a silver medal in 1500 metres, a season best performance. Laura Muir just too good at the minute
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on August 20, 2022, 10:15:52 AM
Anyone use vests or pouches for longer runs, if so any recommendations on which are the best? Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 20, 2022, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on August 20, 2022, 10:15:52 AM
Anyone use vests or pouches for longer runs, if so any recommendations on which are the best? Thanks.
For carrying phones and gels etc?
I use these from Decathlon https://www.decathlon.ie/mid-tights-shorts-and-baggy-shorts/332955-151681-kiprun-men-s-marathon-running-shorts-with-carry-pockets-black.html
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on August 20, 2022, 02:40:36 PM
They look ideal. Thanks laoislad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 20, 2022, 04:11:46 PM
Just be aware with Decathlon I always have to size up. I'm a 32" waist but have to get the Large in those shorts. Same with any of their running clothes I always have to size up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2022, 09:15:54 PM
Size up, means fat Cnut  ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 23, 2022, 12:45:37 PM
Right I've 3000 kms under my belt since starting to run at the start of covid. Delighted with that. Can I ask a question of the experienced runners. What does your max heart rate get to. My resting is always in the 50s but when running I hit a high of often in the 190s. I believe your max heart rate is 220 - your age. I'm not 30! My doctor isn't worried but I was wondering what highs to others hit in comparison to the 220 less your age guide
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 23, 2022, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on August 23, 2022, 12:45:37 PM
Right I've 3000 kms under my belt since starting to run at the start of covid. Delighted with that. Can I ask a question of the experienced runners. What does your max heart rate get to. My resting is always in the 50s but when running I hit a high of often in the 190s. I believe your max heart rate is 220 - your age. I'm not 30! My doctor isn't worried but I was wondering what highs to others hit in comparison to the 220 less your age guide
220-age is a load of bollox of a formula. Don't use it.
MAX HR is an individual thing and doesn't mean anything as regards fitness etc, resting HR on the other hand is a good indicator of fitness. If you see a downward trend in Resting HR value it generally means you are getting fitter.

My max is about 203, that was taken from an all out 5km a while back. That's one way of getting your Max HR.
My resting is about 49 now on average as I'm currently Marathon training so hopefully that's a good sign for me.

Btw you probably shouldn't be running every run where you are hitting 190+
Most of my runs are done around 150bpm, though I only use HR as guide and don't stick rigidly to a HR value, I prefer to use perceived effort.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
You should do a test - read online but it's like 2 -3 decent reps of a hill flat out with hill being 400 metres or so. The generic formula is a load of crap.

You shouldn't be at 190s in most of your runs lol. Most runs should be aerobic and you should be nowhere near it haha.

Yeah perceived effort if you can do that is the way to go. I would expect irrespective if age that at 190+ you're going to be busted.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2022, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 23, 2022, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on August 23, 2022, 12:45:37 PM
Right I've 3000 kms under my belt since starting to run at the start of covid. Delighted with that. Can I ask a question of the experienced runners. What does your max heart rate get to. My resting is always in the 50s but when running I hit a high of often in the 190s. I believe your max heart rate is 220 - your age. I'm not 30! My doctor isn't worried but I was wondering what highs to others hit in comparison to the 220 less your age guide
220-age is a load of bollox of a formula. Don't use it.
MAX HR is an individual thing and doesn't mean anything as regards fitness etc, resting HR on the other hand is a good indicator of fitness. If you see a downward trend in Resting HR value it generally means you are getting fitter.
My max is about 203, that was taken from an all out 5km a while back. That's one way of getting your Max HR.
My resting is about 49 now on average as I'm currently Marathon training so hopefully that's a good sign for me.
Btw you probably shouldn't be running every run where you are hitting 190+
Most of my runs are done around 150bpm, though I only use HR as guide and don't stick rigidly to a HR value, I prefer to use perceived effort.
My 7 day average RHR is 68  ???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 27, 2022, 10:24:55 AM
Got a 20.30 at parkrun today. First time breaking 21 minutes so I'm happy with that. Didn't expect progress so soon.  I was chatting with someone aiming for a 20 and kept up with them for the most part.

I'll keep up the training and try again for a pb in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2022, 10:36:00 AM
Well done..

Did the guy you were chatting to go under 20?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 27, 2022, 10:39:55 AM
No he got 20.10 by the official results. I'll see him again at the next run
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 03,05,08 on August 27, 2022, 10:47:10 AM
Recently got back into running and got an 8k in 37 minutes, would this be considered slow? I remember back in school 4 minutes a k would of been considered the benchmark for a good runner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on August 27, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on August 27, 2022, 10:47:10 AM
Recently got back into running and got an 8k in 37 minutes, would this be considered slow? I remember back in school 4 minutes a k would of been considered the benchmark for a good runner.
The thing about running is there is always going to be someone faster than you and someone slower than you.
Someone may look at 8k in 37mins as a handy jog someone else may find it an impossible time to reach.
The thing is not to let anyone else's times bother you, running is an individual thing. Just keep trying to improve yourself.
Btw I think it's a decent enough pace for 8km in 37mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: 03,05,08 on August 27, 2022, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: Turf on August 27, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: 03,05,08 on August 27, 2022, 10:47:10 AM
Recently got back into running and got an 8k in 37 minutes, would this be considered slow? I remember back in school 4 minutes a k would of been considered the benchmark for a good runner.
The thing about running is there is always going to be someone faster than you and someone slower than you.
Someone may look at 8k in 37mins as a handy jog someone else may find it an impossible time to reach.
The thing is not to let anyone else's times bother you, running is an individual thing. Just keep trying to improve yourself.
Btw I think it's a decent enough pace for 8km in 37mins.

Yea I know, not striving to become a world beater or anything just trying to gauge where I'm at
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on September 02, 2022, 08:47:16 PM
Some win for Ciara in the 1500 metres in Brussels, smashing the Irish record with a 3.54 run. .
Hopefully that gives her a bit more confidence to kick on again
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2022, 09:04:52 PM
356... new Irish recordbettering Sonia's. what a year she had and what a well timed and gutsy run that was.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on September 02, 2022, 09:23:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 02, 2022, 09:04:52 PM
356... new Irish recordbettering Sonia's. what a year she had and what a well timed and gutsy run that was.



What's a few seconds between friends 🤣🤣.

Beating Laura Muir is a huge monkey off her back as well.

I'm assuming now she'll be running in Zurich now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2022, 09:32:37 PM
 ;D

She gets 10k dollars for winning that race. I dunno if she is racing again - wasn't sure she was but not 100% sure. She's well up diamond league standings I would say so if she goes again good chance of a bit more dough. Funding was cut so will help her.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2022, 10:00:32 PM
Just read I think Zurich is the final and she's qualified for it so I'd suspect she's going again. She wins that and it's 30k. The Kenyan one and muir likely in it so big ask but you never know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Watcher on September 02, 2022, 11:48:06 PM
Wouldn't imagine she's flush with money so this would help.  The higher her profile though the better the income I'd imagine
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 03, 2022, 12:10:26 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on September 02, 2022, 11:48:06 PM
Wouldn't imagine she's flush with money so this would help.  The higher her profile though the better the income I'd imagine
She deserves a higher profile. That's some run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Turf on September 03, 2022, 08:16:22 AM
Didn't take long for Ewan McKenna to turn against her.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mrdeeds on September 03, 2022, 10:08:16 AM
Quote from: Turf on September 03, 2022, 08:16:22 AM
Didn't take long for Ewan McKenna to turn against her.

Had to unfollow him. Straw that broke the camels back. She is constantly improving.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2022, 10:26:37 AM
Very toxic individual who has been on the block list for a long time. I read a few things on Twitter there about late developer etc etc but she showed this form at world youth level and she just has taken a while with injuries etc to transfer to adult level. She has medals prior to this year anyway so it's actually not that late. You get that with every great athletics / cycling performance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 03, 2022, 10:41:48 AM
Im still following for the shitshow but wondering where it ends up..just jumps from topic to topic taking the alternative stance. Fallon Sherrock, Russia, Covid. On and on and on

Sorry for derailing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 03, 2022, 12:23:50 PM
Mackenna still banging on about it today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: galwayman on September 03, 2022, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 03, 2022, 12:23:50 PM
Mackenna still banging on about it today.
That muppet is just a contrarian.
If someone tells him the grass is green he would argue it's pink.
Gobshite
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 04, 2022, 07:00:54 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 21, 2022, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on January 17, 2022, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 17, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on December 20, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
Thanks @laoislad it's great news (provided I am lucky!)
Ballot results announce today, did you get in?

Was successful as well!! Have never ran more than 10km so this will be a big step up... something to aim for though and I've always wanted to do a marathon.
100 days to go from today!
How's the training going lads?
I just started the training plan this week. Have been doing loads the last few months but the actual plan only started this week.
Only 55 days left now! How's everyone getting on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Watcher on September 08, 2022, 11:05:24 PM
Another good performance from Mageann today
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on September 09, 2022, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on September 08, 2022, 11:05:24 PM
Another good performance from Mageann today

second to Kipyegon but evidently a slower race than last friday night, probably caught out in the very fast last lap.

She's talked about working with a sprint coach to improve her finishing speed so we'll see how that goes next year.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on September 10, 2022, 10:26:57 AM
20.12 at parkrun today. Getting there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2022, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on September 10, 2022, 10:26:57 AM
20.12 at parkrun today. Getting there

Bravo 🙌

Just saw a PB and Waterworks parkrun record of 14.47!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 25, 2022, 12:31:55 PM
Kipchoge ran a Marathon World Record in Berlin this morning. 2:01:09
New target for me to aim for in Dublin in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2022, 12:37:05 PM
Sub one hour for the first half then suffered for the second half.  Some athlete.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 12:45:56 PM
Marathon coming up now in a couple of weeks and trying to decide on a strategy to hit my time, wondering if any of you have something that you stick with.  I've three in my head but don't know which to go with yet:

1. Try and keep a consistent pace the whole way around and try and hit the halfway mark bang on 2 hours and then hope I have the legs saved to keep the same pace for the second half

2. Let the 4hr pacer out ahead of me by 5 mins and then catch and overtake them.  As long as I finish ahead of or with them, I have my time as long as they are on the money.

3. Go out and try and run the half in around 1.50 when the legs are fresh and give myself a cushion for the second half if I start to tire.

I ran 10k last night in 57 mins and wasn't pushing the whole way so sort of edging towards option 3.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 12:52:43 PM
Be in a position that means you won't hit the wall! As it will sap any energy you have mentally and physically out of you and times will be forgotten about and just survival kicks in..

Personally I'd just stick with the pacer and when you are a couple of miles out try and add more pace  ..

The tactic of 1.50 and having 'fresh legs' will evaporate around the 22/23 mile marker

Have you stuck to plan?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2022, 12:53:45 PM
I would say stick with the pacer from the start. Don't do option 3...

If it's sub 4 you want they will get you there and if you want to push on if you're fit for it you can.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.

Your legs will tell you how strong you are.. I did option 3 (nuclear option) and it backfired.. Were I to go again Pacer is way to go and then test yourself if strong enough
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.

Are you a Swatragh man from memory AnDoireabu? Not trying to out you or nothing lol, i see a local man Niall McGuigan big into them 24hr races. Crazy stuff that but fair play to him
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2022, 02:09:16 PM
I watched a good bit of one of those one year at mary peters - bonkers. I was watching them when half the ones thought they sounded great and didn't have any strategy then just went out and ran then about half way through the night they were busted and had about 12 hours to go lol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 29, 2022, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.
Is it Dublin you doing? Pacers generally very good and hold an even pace. I wouldn't get too worked up in staying right beside them though. The first half or even the first 15 miles in Dublin is mainly uphill, keep the pacers in sight but don't be afraid to ease off on the pace on the uphills, the pacers usually keep an even pace and don't drop off for the hills.

From the Walkinstown roundabout at 15miles to the end there are only a couple of short hills so you would have plenty of time to catch back up to them if they are a bit ahead. The last 6 km is nearly all downhill or very flat so if you have anything left then is the time to really go for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 29, 2022, 02:09:16 PM
I watched a good bit of one of those one year at mary peters - bonkers. I was watching them when half the ones thought they sounded great and didn't have any strategy then just went out and ran then about half way through the night they were busted and had about 12 hours to go lol.

I did the math but cant remember it tbh. I wonder was he like 10min miles for the 24hrs or is that just crazy? Did i also see the world record bein broke recently where some boy averaged 7.5/8 min miles for the 24hr. If ive made all that up apologies 😃
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2022, 03:34:47 PM
The strategy I witnessed was 8 minute miles and get time in the bank. Time in the bank doesn't matter when you're in the medical tent 12ish hours in it turns out  ;D

You need a run walk strategy etc. Some boy broke the record recently I think at about the pace you say. I think it was 7:45 or something but trying to replicate what those kind of people do is not the most sensible haha.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
That is some running. Machine

The strategy you describe maybe not the best but better than my current one of "starting next week" 😐😉😂
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.

Are you a Swatragh man from memory AnDoireabu? Not trying to out you or nothing lol, i see a local man Niall McGuigan big into them 24hr races. Crazy stuff that but fair play to him

I'd be from local enough to Swatragh aye and know of him alright.  Mental stuff doing those endurance runs.  I know a lad who is into the ultra marathons, 50 mile races and I think he did a 100 miles in a day race before.  Different level of mental toughness in that.  A fella in work was telling me about one he was on where you had to run 4 miles each hour every hour for 24 hours.  You could set your own pace as long as you didn't miss the time on it and if you did it in under the hour you took your break to the start of the next hour.  Must have been a sore day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 29, 2022, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.
Is it Dublin you doing? Pacers generally very good and hold an even pace. I wouldn't get too worked up in staying right beside them though. The first half or even the first 15 miles in Dublin is mainly uphill, keep the pacers in sight but don't be afraid to ease off on the pace on the uphills, the pacers usually keep an even pace and don't drop off for the hills.

From the Walkinstown roundabout at 15miles to the end there are only a couple of short hills so you would have plenty of time to catch back up to them if they are a bit ahead. The last 6 km is nearly all downhill or very flat so if you have anything left then is the time to really go for it.

Not Dublin this year, haven't been able to get to it since the backlog with covid.  Have done it twice before though and always found the worst bit was up past the Children's Hospital.  Slow gradual uphill that seemed to go on for ages against the breeze.

My thinking for sticking with the pacers is to not have to do the mental arithmetic of my average time and do I need to speed up or keep it constant.  Even I have a watch I'd be constantly doing it anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 11:15:57 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 29, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on September 29, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
Cheers lads, think I'll stick with the pacer then and see how it goes.  Mostly stuck to the plan with the odd missed run now and again.  Confident enough so I'll see how it goes.

Are you a Swatragh man from memory AnDoireabu? Not trying to out you or nothing lol, i see a local man Niall McGuigan big into them 24hr races. Crazy stuff that but fair play to him

I'd be from local enough to Swatragh aye and know of him alright.  Mental stuff doing those endurance runs.  I know a lad who is into the ultra marathons, 50 mile races and I think he did a 100 miles in a day race before.  Different level of mental toughness in that.  A fella in work was telling me about one he was on where you had to run 4 miles each hour every hour for 24 hours.  You could set your own pace as long as you didn't miss the time on it and if you did it in under the hour you took your break to the start of the next hour.  Must have been a sore day.

Respect to them all.
That maybe the Goggins challenge i think? Knew a boy did that last year, was pumpin out 8min miles throughout it also.
Tired just thinkin about it. Im away to bed 😃
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2022, 08:55:49 AM
Last man standing. I think it's castle ward that is run in. The national trust property at strangford anyway which if memory serves me correctly is castle ward.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on October 01, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
19.42 today at parkrun. About 90 seconds off my time when I thought I had plateaued. Thanks to all on here for the advice.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 01, 2022, 10:54:23 AM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on October 01, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
19.42 today at parkrun. About 90 seconds off my time when I thought I had plateaued. Thanks to all on here for the advice.
Good man fair play.
Sub 19 next!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2022, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on October 01, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
19.42 today at parkrun. About 90 seconds off my time when I thought I had plateaued. Thanks to all on here for the advice.

Well done... that's serious running, the 90 seconds is huge over that distance
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 01, 2022, 11:24:22 AM
Ewan MacKenna be lookin a drugs test off you CK 😉😃
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
Limiting factor in running is usually fitness not speed!! Well done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 09, 2022, 06:47:05 PM
Last really long run done today before Dublin. Headed up to Longwood in Meath for their 3/4 Marathon.
Was terrible conditions with wind and rain but it was great. Brilliant organisation and lovely route on country back roads and canal paths.
Only 3 weeks left now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 16, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
The brother ran Amsterdam today, only started running in lockdown. Got on super. Said it was very flat.
I'm must really try one of those easy flat Dutch Marathons instead of running hills in Dublin every year 😂
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 16, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
The brother ran Amsterdam today, only started running in lockdown. Got on super. Said it was very flat.
I'm must really try one of those easy flat Dutch Marathons instead of running hills in Dublin every year 😂

That's where I ran yesterday and it is a nice course, bit windy and a few dead spots for support but overall an enjoyable run in a nice city.  Finishing in the Olympic Stadium was a nice way to end it as well.  Glad it is over though.  Spoke to a lad at the bag collection who has Dublin now in a couple of weeks, he was having thoughts of offloading the ticket after yesterday!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 03:11:10 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 16, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
The brother ran Amsterdam today, only started running in lockdown. Got on super. Said it was very flat.
I'm must really try one of those easy flat Dutch Marathons instead of running hills in Dublin every year 😂

That's where I ran yesterday and it is a nice course, bit windy and a few dead spots for support but overall an enjoyable run in a nice city.  Finishing in the Olympic Stadium was a nice way to end it as well.  Glad it is over though.  Spoke to a lad at the bag collection who has Dublin now in a couple of weeks, he was having thoughts of offloading the ticket after yesterday!

Did they go full techno in the stadium before starting!! Thought I was at a rave to be honest!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 17, 2022, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on October 16, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
The brother ran Amsterdam today, only started running in lockdown. Got on super. Said it was very flat.
I'm must really try one of those easy flat Dutch Marathons instead of running hills in Dublin every year 😂

That's where I ran yesterday and it is a nice course, bit windy and a few dead spots for support but overall an enjoyable run in a nice city.  Finishing in the Olympic Stadium was a nice way to end it as well.  Glad it is over though.  Spoke to a lad at the bag collection who has Dublin now in a couple of weeks, he was having thoughts of offloading the ticket after yesterday!
Fair play, how's the body today? the brother loved the Olympic stadium also,would really love to one abroad myself. Have my eye maybe on Frankfurt next year.
Have entered both London and Berlin but chances of getting in are low.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 04:44:02 PM
Legs are sore enough but I've been worse after Dublin so not complaining too much.  Been in the lottery for London for years and never got to run it, would be a nice destination one to do especially now it is moved to October and wouldn't be as hot.

The DJ's in the stadium and around the course were having the time of their lives, just dance music and techno from start to finish.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on October 17, 2022, 10:16:40 PM
Optimistically signed up for the Dublin Marathon at the start of the year but haven't been able to get past 10k all year without my calf going...

It says the entry is non transferable but I'd be happy enough to give my entry to someone rather than waste it if any of you in running circles know of someone who would be interested you can send me a dm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on October 18, 2022, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 04:44:02 PM
Legs are sore enough but I've been worse after Dublin so not complaining too much.  Been in the lottery for London for years and never got to run it, would be a nice destination one to do especially now it is moved to October and wouldn't be as hot.

The DJ's in the stadium and around the course were having the time of their lives, just dance music and techno from start to finish.

London is back to April from next year. First time ballot entry last year and got selected, I know one's trying for years and not a sniff of it. As for the heat, was in around 22 degrees this year. But a great course to run, literally lined the whole way from start to finish with people, some parts you had maybe 6/7 deep at the barriers for maybe a mile. Great experience. In the ballot for next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: bridgegael on October 18, 2022, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: andoireabu on October 17, 2022, 04:44:02 PM
Legs are sore enough but I've been worse after Dublin so not complaining too much.  Been in the lottery for London for years and never got to run it, would be a nice destination one to do especially now it is moved to October and wouldn't be as hot.

The DJ's in the stadium and around the course were having the time of their lives, just dance music and techno from start to finish.

London is back to April from next year. First time ballot entry last year and got selected, I know one's trying for years and not a sniff of it. As for the heat, was in around 22 degrees this year. But a great course to run, literally lined the whole way from start to finish with people, some parts you had maybe 6/7 deep at the barriers for maybe a mile. Great experience. In the ballot for next year.
Getting picked in the ballot on the first go!! This is my 7th year trying for London! Would love to run it, Dublin is pretty good too for crowd support in fairness.
If I don't get London I might consider Manchester in April, supposed to be the flattest in the UK.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on October 18, 2022, 08:07:50 PM
Was thinking of doing Cork marathon next year as it probably the only one that suits schedule wise. Anyone ever do it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Helix. on October 30, 2022, 05:29:52 AM
Best of luck to all on the forum running the Dublin City Marathon today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 04:52:12 PM
How did everyone get on yesterday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on November 01, 2022, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 04:52:12 PM
How did everyone get on yesterday?
Do you want the good or the bad story first  ;D

I damaged my hamstring a few weeks ago at a 3/4 Marathon but as you do I completely ignored it and pretended it wasn't hurt and hoped it would magically heal it self, so I still ran the Marathon on Sunday  anyway. Of course it flared up even worse about 10 miles in.

Long story short I finished it anyway and was relatively happy in the end because it felt like someone was stabbing me with a hot poker in the hamstring for most of it.
It's a pity as I am in really good shape, a former poster on here called Bingo wrote me a training plan and it really got me into shape.
Anyway I'll have another chance in a few months as I signed up for the Manchester Marathon just today. Just need to get this hamstring injury sorted and I'll go at it again.

Once again though Dublin was fantastic, the support on the route is just unbelievable. It was unseasonably warm though, it seemed to catch an awful lot of people out as I've never seen as many people being treated on the side of the road by paramedics.  A few looked to be in very bad shape.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 11, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448

Yes, that was a tough one. I'm sure he will learn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 11, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448

Yes, that was a tough one. I'm sure he will learn.

If he'd stop looking round him he'd not have stumbled
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Wolfetones on December 12, 2022, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 11, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448

Yes, that was a tough one. I'm sure he will learn.

If he'd stop looking round him he'd not have stumbled

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: redzone on December 12, 2022, 07:51:07 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on December 12, 2022, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 11, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448

Yes, that was a tough one. I'm sure he will learn.

If he'd stop looking round him he'd not have stumbled

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Chubby fella on couch  tells elite runner how to win race
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2022, 08:08:58 AM
He was busted and that was the reason he was looking round or he stumbled. Seventeen in that company and doing that is some run. Big future ahead hopefully.

The euro xc is a great event to watch. Great running by the women too getting a bronze.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2022, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 12, 2022, 07:51:07 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on December 12, 2022, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 11, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1601898711587688448

Yes, that was a tough one. I'm sure he will learn.

If he'd stop looking round him he'd not have stumbled

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Chubby fella on couch  tells elite runner how to win race

Cubby? If you watched it he turned round and lost his footing? As Tommy said he was busted but was a brilliant effort all the same
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2022, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2022, 08:08:58 AM
He was busted and that was the reason he was looking round or he stumbled. Seventeen in that company and doing that is some run. Big future ahead hopefully.

The euro xc is a great event to watch. Great running by the women too getting a bronze.

Yep,
the legs were gone and whatever drop in the ground caught him out.

That's some running for him as a 17yo @U20.

silver and bronze for Ireland, something going right in Irish athletics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2022, 02:47:37 PM
Dublin Track club doing some job and there's a new elite bunch started up here. Griggs would train with them but not be in the club. Tbh athletics development is generally despite the athletics bodies not because of them as on both sides of the border they're useless and notorious for it. There are some people putting some really good work in.

(All the runners winning weren't from those clubs but you get ones in the states and some other good ones floating round too)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2022, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2022, 02:47:37 PM
Dublin Track club doing some job and there's a new elite bunch started up here. Griggs would train with them but not be in the club. Tbh athletics development is generally despite the athletics bodies not because of them as on both sides of the border they're useless and notorious for it. There are some people putting some really good work in.

(All the runners winning weren't from those clubs but you get ones in the states and some other good ones floating round too)

Ciara has been part of team NB based in Manchester I believe but I presume some of the others are picking up scholarships to universities in the states, no?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2022, 03:18:43 PM
Two AFAIK - the Flanagan twins. There wouldn't be many more in the womens. Best prospect was u23 sarah healy who was dnf and she's UCD.

One of the main guys Brian Fay is in the states. He wasn't great sunday but has been breaking track records all round him.

There are a few guys at underage level who are in the states but I am not sure there were many, if any, in the u20 team. They'd be more likely to be u23s. Hadn't followed them that closely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2022, 03:25:14 PM
Actually looking at the U23 not sure there's that many of them in the states either. There are definitely 4 or 5 boys out there currently too but not sure they're all in those teams. There were some decent showings in the NCAA recently so definitely a few out there.

McElhinny is a huge talent in the u23s and he'd a stinker of a race but isn't american college. The guy Efrim Guidey(I think you spell it that) has came into the country(a few years I think) and is based in dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on February 04, 2023, 06:57:28 PM
Have been getting back into doing a bit of running since the new year, used to be decent enough at it but long way from those days.
Have an entry into the Dublin Marathon sorted. I'm going to Trim tomorrow for a 10mile race and have a Half Marathon in Newry also in mind for May but not booked yet.
Have slowly but surely been building up the distance, doing all Zone 2 type efforts mainly so pretty slow but can feel the fitness building.
Anyone else training for anything?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 04, 2023, 08:34:26 PM
Omagh half lined up for End of March. Been training since the new year as well. Going well. Miles going in right direction. Bout 25 a week or so. Mostly slow pace with few interval/ tempo runs stuck in there.

Think I might have left it a few weeks too late to hit what I was going to aim for. So might try and get another lined up for may/June. What date is the Newry one?
Anyone know any good half marathons around that time (may June)? Ideally on a sat. Don't mind where as could stay if further away.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 08:36:35 PM
Newry half supposed to be 28th may.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on February 04, 2023, 10:23:18 PM
No events but I'm chipping away at my pbs. Doing a range from 5k to half marathon. Building up distance to attempt my first full marathon soon as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
Currently training for the Manchester Marathon which is this day 10 weeks.
About to head out the door now for a 30km run, it's -1° at the moment though 🥶
Training going very well so far, nearly too well. Keep waiting for something to go wrong!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ulster Frank on February 05, 2023, 07:07:24 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
Currently training for the Manchester Marathon which is this day 10 weeks.
About to head out the door now for a 30km run, it's -1° at the moment though 🥶
Training going very well so far, nearly too well. Keep waiting for something to go wrong!

Good stuff.  Will be worth it when you finished.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on February 05, 2023, 07:35:53 AM
30km fair play.I'm getting ready to head to Trim soon to run 16km and I'm dreading it, couldn't fathom doing a further 14km on top of it, well not right now anyway, there was a time it wouldn't have bothered me to run it.
Best of luck for Manchester and also to those training for their half marathons/5kms also. It would great to hear how everyone is getting on, keep me motivated to keep going myself!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 05, 2023, 08:33:44 AM
Currently followin a women on the twitter doing 32mile a day. Into her 90plus day of it. Crazy stuff
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 05, 2023, 08:33:44 AM
Currently followin a women on the twitter doing 32mile a day. Into her 90plus day of it. Crazy stuff

Stalking her ya mean
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 05, 2023, 10:08:43 AM
Lol. Tried to run after her gave up after a mile. Now following via social media 😃
Title: Re: Running
Post by: andoireabu on February 05, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
Running a half at the end if March so tipping away trying to get back up in terms of miles. Didn't run a mile after Amsterdam in October so starting from scratch again really. Should have kept it up but had no motivation because I had no race booked.

Manchester is a quick marathon from what I know or it, couple of lads in work ran it and got great times. One broke 3 hours and the other was 3:12 I think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: andoireabu on February 05, 2023, 10:56:24 AM
Running a half at the end if March so tipping away trying to get back up in terms of miles. Didn't run a mile after Amsterdam in October so starting from scratch again really. Should have kept it up but had no motivation because I had no race booked.

Manchester is a quick marathon from what I know or it, couple of lads in work ran it and got great times. One broke 3 hours and the other was 3:12 I think.
Yeah heard it's quick and flat, be a nice change from the hills in Dublin Marathon.
I won't be near any of those times those lads are running though  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bigfrank on February 08, 2023, 08:55:06 PM
Anyone on the board suffer from Plantar fasciitis currently or in the past? I have been battling it for a few years,can be brutal in the morning after an evening run or training session the night before,I blame work boots 40 hours a week and a lot of years tramping about a gaa field.
Anyone see a specialist about it or get treatment? I did 4x£50 sessions a few years ago with a specialist that just held a small device that sent shockwaves into my heel for ten mins,didn't help at all and cost a fortune lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 09:07:42 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on February 08, 2023, 08:55:06 PM
Anyone on the board suffer from Plantar fasciitis currently or in the past? I have been battling it for a few years,can be brutal in the morning after an evening run or training session the night before,I blame work boots 40 hours a week and a lot of years tramping about a gaa field.
Anyone see a specialist about it or get treatment? I did 4x£50 sessions a few years ago with a specialist that just held a small device that sent shockwaves into my heel for ten mins,didn't help at all and cost a fortune lol

Is that the actual diagnosis? I had that heel pain before.. I just rested it and touch wood haven't been troubled

What I also did was change my trainers to more cushion
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2023, 08:31:54 AM
Ankle and foot mobility exercises and make sure your calves aren't excessively tight. I have had it before but never too bad. The likes of ankle rolls etc are very helpful on a daily basis. If big boots are causing this you're likely less mobile round those kind of areas.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on February 09, 2023, 10:03:50 AM
Quote from: bigfrank on February 08, 2023, 08:55:06 PM
Anyone on the board suffer from Plantar fasciitis currently or in the past? I have been battling it for a few years,can be brutal in the morning after an evening run or training session the night before,I blame work boots 40 hours a week and a lot of years tramping about a gaa field.
Anyone see a specialist about it or get treatment? I did 4x£50 sessions a few years ago with a specialist that just held a small device that sent shockwaves into my heel for ten mins,didn't help at all and cost a fortune lol

Do you wear the heal gels in your boots?  I got a dose of it last year,  physio told me to get the heal gels and wear them all the time except when running. They definitely helped.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: outinfront on February 09, 2023, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on February 08, 2023, 08:55:06 PM
Anyone on the board suffer from Plantar fasciitis currently or in the past? I have been battling it for a few years,can be brutal in the morning after an evening run or training session the night before,I blame work boots 40 hours a week and a lot of years tramping about a gaa field.
Anyone see a specialist about it or get treatment? I did 4x£50 sessions a few years ago with a specialist that just held a small device that sent shockwaves into my heel for ten mins,didn't help at all and cost a fortune lol

Yeah i had it pretty bad about 3 seasons ago.  The first few steps of the day were brutal painful and warming up for training was always sore but then I would be fine playing but the pain would return again after.   The thing that made the most difference to me was getting a pair of insoles and I wore them in all my shoes (but not my football boots).  I was advised not to shell out on pricey customised ones and I just bought Dr Sholl orthaheel sports insoles (quite tough, not gel like).  They take a bit of getting used to and the impact is not immediate but after a few weeks the pain was less and after a couple of months I was pain free.  Dunno if you jog but I'd give that a miss for a few weeks.

https://onlinepharmacyuk.co.uk/health-wellbeing/foot-care/scholl-orthaheel-sports-1-pair-medium

Good luck. 

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 10, 2023, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
Currently training for the Manchester Marathon which is this day 10 weeks.
About to head out the door now for a 30km run, it's -1° at the moment though 🥶
Training going very well so far, nearly too well. Keep waiting for something to go wrong!
Am signed up too  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 11, 2023, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 10, 2023, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
Currently training for the Manchester Marathon which is this day 10 weeks.
About to head out the door now for a 30km run, it's -1° at the moment though 🥶
Training going very well so far, nearly too well. Keep waiting for something to go wrong!
Am signed up too  :D
Might see you there! Though you'll be on the plane back home and I'll still only be at half way of the race!
Kind of guessed you were in Marathon training from your Strava runs alright.
Only 9 weeks left 😬
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 11, 2023, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 11, 2023, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 10, 2023, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 05, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
Currently training for the Manchester Marathon which is this day 10 weeks.
About to head out the door now for a 30km run, it's -1° at the moment though 🥶
Training going very well so far, nearly too well. Keep waiting for something to go wrong!
Am signed up too  :D
Might see you there! Though you'll be on the plane back home and I'll still only be at half way of the race!
Kind of guessed you were in Marathon training from your Strava runs alright.
Only 9 weeks left 😬
It's a great course , you'll have to shield your eyes going by Old Trafford though !
Tough time of the year for it but good to get a clear run at the summer with no long training is my thinking , baby number 2 coming end of July too ...so it'll be a good while again before any decent training is done for me ! Hoping for a PB but nothing soft in a marathon , so many variables . Enjoying each session now though ..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 09:11:13 AM
Anyone got the Garmin 255? My Visio packed in and going to change back to a forerunner. Bit extra cost than the 245 but meant to be 14 days charge (none GPS) which is a big help. Have to say I missed all the running data when I had the Visio.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 15, 2023, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 09:11:13 AM
Anyone got the Garmin 255? My Visio packed in and going to change back to a forerunner. Bit extra cost than the 245 but meant to be 14 days charge (none GPS) which is a big help. Have to say I missed all the running data when I had the Visio.
I've the 955 and it's great. The 255 supposed to be pretty good also, hard to go wrong with the Garmin forerunner series to be fair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 09:24:12 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 15, 2023, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 09:11:13 AM
Anyone got the Garmin 255? My Visio packed in and going to change back to a forerunner. Bit extra cost than the 245 but meant to be 14 days charge (none GPS) which is a big help. Have to say I missed all the running data when I had the Visio.
I've the 955 and it's great. The 255 supposed to be pretty good also, hard to go wrong with the Garmin forerunner series to be fair.

Yeah 955 looked great. Bit out of my budget tho unfortunately. Had a 245 before the Visio and liked it. Visio was a bit of a disappointment but it was my fault as picked the wrong one for what I needed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 10:05:39 AM
I can't even remember the model of garmin I have but I really don't like it. There are a few ones out there I'd like to buy but it's hard to justify 450 quid odd on a watch. It's not the 255 btw.

Biggest thing that annoys me is that I have a HRM and it will rarely pick up and even when it does it's completely inaccurate. I would like to train by HRM but can't and have tried everything to get that to work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 10:18:49 AM
Is it a forerunner Tommy? There're usually decent with the HR and running data. Not so much with other sports/ exercise. Maybe one of the earlier models. I had a 245 about 3 years ago and it was good. HR was close enough for a wrist measurement (I hate the chest strap).
You can still pick up the 245 now for just over £150 for the music version. And to be honest, it'll do everything you want unless you're doing triathlons etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Actually it's the 245. Spent 30 quid on the hrm separately and may as well have burned my money... Never had this issue with any garmins before though reading about it it doesn't seem uncommon.

It's one of the fenix ones I would like but not sure I want to spend that much on a watch.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 15, 2023, 11:35:09 AM
Best Garmin I've ever had:

https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/pn/010-01614-06 (https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/pn/010-01614-06)

Handy for the bike and swimming when you are injured!

A quick search could well turn up a used one that's been refurbished by Garmin for a reasonable price.

Derry 10 miler and Omagh half coming up.  Nowhere near race fit, carrying too much timber!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 15, 2023, 11:38:55 AM
When is the Derry 10 miler?

We usually do Bundoran as a warm up for the Omagh half. But gave a miss this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 12:39:31 PM
Derry is the 11th March. Just looked at Omagh there and it's sold out.

I'm doing that Ballyliffin coastal challenge. I signed up with a few mates - I assumed we were all doing the 10 miler then all the other feckers signed up for the 7 miler!!

That 735 looks interesting - cheers no1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2023, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Actually it's the 245. Spent 30 quid on the hrm separately and may as well have burned my money... Never had this issue with any garmins before though reading about it it doesn't seem uncommon.

It's one of the fenix ones I would like but not sure I want to spend that much on a watch.

Have the Fenix 6 over a year now or two can't remember, I've always had the Garmins but this is by far the best, 14 day charge and its a quick charge also, doesn't make me run any faster though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: square_ball on February 15, 2023, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2023, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
Actually it's the 245. Spent 30 quid on the hrm separately and may as well have burned my money... Never had this issue with any garmins before though reading about it it doesn't seem uncommon.

It's one of the fenix ones I would like but not sure I want to spend that much on a watch.

Have the Fenix 6 over a year now or two can't remember, I've always had the Garmins but this is by far the best, 14 day charge and its a quick charge also, doesn't make me run any faster though!

That's the big problem I have too. I have the garmin and the nikes or the hokas and whatever other accessory i'm told i need - I automatically thought I'd be running in and around Kipchoge pace but not the case unfortunately!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
"Cheat boots" for the win  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on February 15, 2023, 04:34:58 PM
I bought a couple of pairs of cheapos from Amazon at £13 each. Great durability as I've done hundreds of km on the first pair already. Some poor wein put then together in a sweatshop but sure its the same with Nike etc. An expensive pair of runners is a placebo at best for non-elites.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
The carbon ones will make a massive difference regardless. Racing shoes with being so light make a difference too.

You'd be best wearing neither in training mind you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on February 15, 2023, 05:09:40 PM
Has anyone ran the Mourne Way Half/Full?  I was looking at giving one of them a go in the summer. Never really ran too much off road, would that be a huge hindrance to me? Overall what's the race like?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 15, 2023, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on February 15, 2023, 04:34:58 PM
I bought a couple of pairs of cheapos from Amazon at £13 each. Great durability as I've done hundreds of km on the first pair already. Some poor wein put then together in a sweatshop but sure its the same with Nike etc. An expensive pair of runners is a placebo at best for non-elites.
Not sure I agree. Granted no shoe is gonna turn me into anything resembling a fast runner but there is definitely a difference when wearing them. It's pretty easy measure the difference also if you compare say your heart rate at the same paces when wearing them to not wearing them. Another and an even bigger benefit of the super shoes is recovery, I know with me my legs are a lot fresher the next day if say I use the Nike Next percent in a race or hard training session compared to a bog standard Asics or whatever and when you're training for a Marathon and putting in big miles every week that really helps.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on February 15, 2023, 08:18:52 PM
Aye perhaps I was a bit over zealous in my earlier comment. Every week I see overweight middle aged men wearing £200 shoes to parkrun. Whatever floats their boat. I'm sure they do have their benefits but for most, an improvement in lifestyle would help considerably more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on February 15, 2023, 08:28:49 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on February 15, 2023, 08:18:52 PM
Aye perhaps I was a bit over zealous in my earlier comment. Every week I see overweight middle aged men wearing £200 shoes to parkrun. Whatever floats their boat. I'm sure they do have their benefits but for most, an improvement in lifestyle would help considerably more.
Ah sure what harm are they doing, if it gets them out the door and even if it's only just to Park Run then it's worth it in my opinion.
There was a time I'd spend that amount in a pub at a weekend. I've only just got back into running and haven't purchased a super shoe yet but fully intend to for the Dublin Marathon and I am definitely an overweight middle aged man!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2023, 08:34:27 PM
Personally go for shoes with comfort as it's reducing stress on joints!!

Park runs are great for all ages sizes and shapes!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2023, 01:41:32 PM
Agree , all about comfort for general training rather than the price tag or the sales pitch .

I would be cautious about super shoes for other than races , the stack height (heel height) coupled with the carbon plate changes foot mechanics considerately ...puts more stress on a bone within foot and also causes more force through Achilles/calf ....they 100% improve performance but I would hesitate to use them in training , despite the increase in speed and decrease in soreness you get from them .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: full moon on February 17, 2023, 08:53:38 PM
I'm suffering from shin splints again which is harming my progress the past few months.

Is there any sort runners people recommend, or any other tips to get rid of the shin splints. I bought Asics but they cut my feet had to park them. The shin issue isn't every time but it's enough that it stops me running much more than once a week.

It probably is being a bit overweight and lack of fitness, but it's hard to solve that if the shins won't let me run more!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 20, 2023, 02:09:55 PM
I've been through every brand of runners over the last 15 years trying to get something to help with continuous achilles/calf problems.  The only ones I didn't try were Hoka because I thought they were too expensive and looked shite.

Finally bit the bullet and bought a pair a year or so ago.  Best trainers I've ever had for running.  They still look shite, they are still expensive and they don't last as long as I'd like but for support they are unrivalled (purely my opinion).  They are also far lighter than they look.  Hoka Clifton 8's are the pair I go for.

I'd agree with you on the weight issue, when I'm carrying excess beef the injury issues are certainly worse!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2023, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: No1 on February 20, 2023, 02:09:55 PM
I've been through every brand of runners over the last 15 years trying to get something to help with continuous achilles/calf problems.  The only ones I didn't try were Hoka because I thought they were too expensive and looked shite.

Finally bit the bullet and bought a pair a year or so ago.  Best trainers I've ever had for running.  They still look shite, they are still expensive and they don't last as long as I'd like but for support they are unrivalled (purely my opinion).  They are also far lighter than they look.  Hoka Clifton 8's are the pair I go for.

I'd agree with you on the weight issue, when I'm carrying excess beef the injury issues are certainly worse!

Love the Hoka's.. A friend of mine, a big lad, retired and used to play a lot of decent club rugby back in the day, he walks 10 miles a day, he has about 5 pairs of them and puts on a different pair of the same Hoka's every day, swears by them..

I had them for marathon training and never gave any hassels
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on February 20, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
Ah no, I've always looked at the hoka's and thought I can't justify paying for these when I regularly seem to hurt my calf running. Now you suggesting that they could help with this has peaked my interest again
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2023, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on February 20, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
Ah no, I've always looked at the hoka's and thought I can't justify paying for these when I regularly seem to hurt my calf running. Now you suggesting that they could help with this has peaked my interest again

Think about how much time we spend on our feet, walking or running or just the day to day stuff while at work, getting older is no joke either..

I wear trainers to work and after work, If I'm heading out for a dander at lunch time I put them on. My shoes are just for working hours.

Get cushioned up, you aint going to win these races we enter, and shaving 10 seconds off a run won't save your joints when you are older!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 23, 2023, 08:14:27 PM
 First pair of Hokas purchased this evening. I'll be up and out early in the morning to check them out. I'd have to agree with others that talk about support. I was running in cheapish runners at the start and had niggly injuries. Touch wood I've had Sauconys and Mizuno's and no issues at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: square_ball on February 23, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on February 23, 2023, 08:14:27 PM
First pair of Hokas purchased this evening. I'll be up and out early in the morning to check them out. I'd have to agree with others that talk about support. I was running in cheapish runners at the start and had niggly injuries. Touch wood I've had Sauconys and Mizuno's and no issues at all.

Which version did you go for? Give us an update after you go for that run. I've been mulling over buying a pair for a few weeks and don't know whether just to take the plunge. You can't have enough pairs of running shoes right?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 23, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
Would you all run in different types of shoes? I tend to stick with the one make. I've a couple of pairs of Asics. Tried to merge a pair of Adidas in but started to get sore soles so ditched them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 23, 2023, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 23, 2023, 09:37:35 PM
Would you all run in different types of shoes? I tend to stick with the one make. I've a couple of pairs of Asics. Tried to merge a pair of Adidas in but started to get sore soles so ditched them.
Yeah I've a good few pairs of different brands. Favourites are New Balance and Saucony. The Saucony Endorphin Speeds for example are a great shoe and not that expensive.
Can't have those Hokas at all though, find them heavy and a bit clunky and I think if you want a cushioned runner there are better options out there ,though what suits one might not suit another.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 24, 2023, 09:04:36 AM
Quote from: square_ball on February 23, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on February 23, 2023, 08:14:27 PM
First pair of Hokas purchased this evening. I'll be up and out early in the morning to check them out. I'd have to agree with others that talk about support. I was running in cheapish runners at the start and had niggly injuries. Touch wood I've had Sauconys and Mizuno's and no issues at all.

Which version did you go for? Give us an update after you go for that run. I've been mulling over buying a pair for a few weeks and don't know whether just to take the plunge. You can't have enough pairs of running shoes right?
. I went with the Arahi 6. Lovely support with them. Flew along and am very happy with them. Found them very balanced. More like the Saucony hurricanes I had previously. They are 269 grams I felt them light but not as light as the mizuno waves I had.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Onthe40 on February 24, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
The new Hoka carbons aren't one bit clunky...I used to be Nike all the way but now find the new Hoka lightweight and a great running shoe..the carbon x2 can be picked up at decent money too
Am tempted to try the Saucony
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 24, 2023, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 24, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
The new Hoka carbons aren't one bit clunky...I used to be Nike all the way but now find the new Hoka lightweight and a great running shoe..the carbon x2 can be picked up at decent money too
Am tempted to try the Saucony
Like I said what suits one might not suit another. I only tried the Clifton to be fair and found it too narrow and very heavy. Haven't bought a Hoka since.
Saucony are great indeed imo anyway!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 24, 2023, 11:31:41 AM
The mizuno air wave are the most comfortable running shoe I've ever had.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on February 25, 2023, 10:28:54 AM
Anyone ever bought running shoes from China off the likes of aliexpress, or is that a no no? Surely most of them are made in China anyway but the quality from these sites are not guaranteed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 25, 2023, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on February 25, 2023, 10:28:54 AM
Anyone ever bought running shoes from China off the likes of aliexpress, or is that a no no? Surely most of them are made in China anyway but the quality from these sites are not guaranteed.
Wouldn't think they'd be great to be honest.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: square_ball on February 25, 2023, 05:53:37 PM
For things like running shoes and football boots I've steered clear. Tried day to day runners and they are grand. I suppose for the price might be worth a chance but your feet mightn't thank you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 08, 2023, 03:10:39 PM
Went ahead and got some Clifton 8s from Hoka. I find that they are digging in on my inside arches. I think they're the correct size although I suppose I could have went for wide fit. Do those here who use the cliftons find the same problem?

Maybe it's my feet that are the problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleaflad on March 08, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
I was told not to focus on which brand with running shoes as even the same brand can have different types of shoe based on if you are an overpronator or underpronator. So 1 pair of Asics for example could be perfect for you while another may be the opposite. That was about 10 years ago though so maybe things have changed. I know they had machines in some stores to see how your foot struck the ground etc. Maybe a bit of research into that for folks who are finding it tough. Maybe buying one with too much or not enough support in certain parts of the foot.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on March 08, 2023, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2023, 03:10:39 PM
Went ahead and got some Clifton 8s from Hoka. I find that they are digging in on my inside arches. I think they're the correct size although I suppose I could have went for wide fit. Do those here who use the cliftons find the same problem?

Maybe it's my feet that are the problem.

I've never experienced that before with the Clifton 8's.  Maybe it's just your feet getting used to a more supportive shoe?  Did you go for a run in them straight out of the box?  I always wear a new pair around the house for about a week before I actually run in them, breaks them in a wee bit.  Not sure any of that info is useful info for you!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 08, 2023, 04:03:53 PM
No haven't taken them for a run yet. Just walking around the house in them at the minute. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's more support that I could get used to or if I should really just return them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 05:44:15 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2023, 04:03:53 PM
No haven't taken them for a run yet. Just walking around the house in them at the minute. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's more support that I could get used to or if I should really just return them.

Return them if not feeling it. Trainers are strange!! I couldn't go back to the ASICS from before which is  strange considering I'd different pairs over ten years
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 23, 2023, 03:29:14 PM
Update on this. I returned the cliftons. I wanted to try the wide fit to see if that would help. They didn't have the cliftons in my size and wide fit so I got the bondi 7s instead. Much better fit and so far very happy. A few small mile runs complete and no complaints. Very comfortable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 23, 2023, 03:29:14 PM
Update on this. I returned the cliftons. I wanted to try the wide fit to see if that would help. They didn't have the cliftons in my size and wide fit so I got the bondi 7s instead. Much better fit and so far very happy. A few small mile runs complete and no complaints. Very comfortable.

With more running you might be able to squeeze into the Cliftons  ;)

Couldn't help myself!! Enjoy the running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 23, 2023, 03:35:18 PM
Haha very true  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LC on April 21, 2023, 07:34:18 AM
Looking to get a new pair of runners.

Currently thinking of the asics gel nimbus 25, any thoughts or other recommendations?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2023, 08:25:26 AM
I really like mizuno air wave. Used to swear by brooks ghost but haven't had them in a while.

I stopped using asics years ago as I found them very rigid round the ankle but depends on personal preference etc.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on April 21, 2023, 08:31:21 AM
Some mess up in the national 10km in the Phoenix Park at the weekend..
Course was only 8.5km! Apparently runners were sent the wrong way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2023, 08:35:47 AM
A complete balls up. I ran that race about 10 years ago in phoenix park. Surely they could just run the same course lol.

Same as the belfast marathon a few years ago - sent the front ones the wrong way then they were stuffed and had to send everyone the wrong way. They can hardly move the finish line then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: square_ball on April 21, 2023, 09:05:41 AM
How did the lads from the Board here get on in Manchester? I seen a few from a local club to me seemed to hit a right few PBs in it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 21, 2023, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: square_ball on April 21, 2023, 09:05:41 AM
How did the lads from the Board here get on in Manchester? I seen a few from a local club to me seemed to hit a right few PBs in it.
Yeah great, really enjoyed it. Nice course and great support, didn't think anything could rival Dublin for support but Manchester was close. Was pretty flat but a couple of bastard hills at Mile 16 and 17 were really tough.
Got sick the week before it so ended up just going with 4hr pacer from start to finish. 3:45 was my aim in training but didn't go for it on the day as still didn't feel great and I've other Marathons in mind for this year where I can go for it.
Would definitely recommend Manchester though great Marathon and such and easy city to get around with trams etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:55:23 AM
Club mate did the Manchester also thought it was great, he's doing Belfast next week too the header!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CK_Redhand on April 21, 2023, 12:23:12 PM
I live in Manchester but didn't do the marathon. I know a few who did and it seemed to be an ideal day for it.

I just recently did my first marathon distance training run. My weekly schedule is one each of 5k, 10k, 21k and ~40k. No interest in events but it keeps me ticking over.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
2 hours 1 min!! That guy was flying at the end!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2023, 04:24:59 PM
A friend in work (early 40s) reckons she'll tackle a marathon next year. Has never ran more than 5k in her life and does pretty much zero exercise at the min. I laughed at her - doable?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2023, 04:24:59 PM
A friend in work (early 40s) reckons she'll tackle a marathon next year. Has never ran more than 5k in her life and does pretty much zero exercise at the min. I laughed at her - doable?

Here's the thing, I know plenty lads who never played any sports when they were young, so, no injuries no niggles no stress on joints. They are doing triathlons and all sorts with little or no hang ups!!

If she does the program she'll do it no probs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on April 23, 2023, 06:05:09 PM
Anyone here know someone that has ran again after a hip replacement?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2023, 07:38:24 PM
Yeah there's a guy who runs the local parkrun with a hip replacement. I would more know of him than know him but he does a load of miles after it. He's 60+ and would have been elite territory back in the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 24, 2023, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: square_ball on April 21, 2023, 09:05:41 AM
How did the lads from the Board here get on in Manchester? I seen a few from a local club to me seemed to hit a right few PBs in it.
:-\
Had a savage block of work done , was going to give the PB a rattle but had a tough week leading up to it. 2 year old in A&E the Wednesday before with a virus and herself was laid low. Thought I dodged it but lack of sleep and immune system depleted made for a tough day in Manchester !
Was toast after 11 miles ..hadn't checked my heart rate but was basically at maximum from mile 5  :-\

Had hoped to sign off from the marathon but alas , unfinished business now ! Hope to come back in a few years when the new baby coming is about 2.

Valencia 2025  8)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:40:20 PM
Ah sorry to hear that. I only check strava now and again but you looked to have been flying. You have had your battles with the marathon but I've no doubt you will crack it!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 24, 2023, 02:51:16 PM
Aye, that's the beauty of the marathon.Need all the stars to align. That's 3 tough days, 3 good days and one medium in the marathon for me  ;D
Enjoyed the training and the routine.
Don't think I'll do a spring one again ..the dark mornings and evenings are tough going ! Autumn marathons take the good out of the summer as well !

14 weeks for Valencia leaves ya starting last week in August . Only the month of November to get over in terms of dark training .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:56:10 PM
I actually prefer training at that time of year.

Yeah I feel your pain with young kids etc - training well for me correlates to sleeping well which is a complete uncontrollable as is protecting yourself from all the bugs that come in the house!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 24, 2023, 03:04:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:56:10 PM
I actually prefer training at that time of year.

Yeah I feel your pain with young kids etc - training well for me correlates to sleeping well which is a complete uncontrollable as is protecting yourself from all the bugs that come in the house!!
Fact . I was dusht when looking at it objectively . You can't perform on a metabolic deficit. Not even going to try for a marathon for a few years until babies are sleeping the night. The young fella is sound and that's the main thing.

Manchester is a great race , very well organised and everything handy .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
I knew quite a few doing Manchester who spoke very highly of it. End of day like football etc it's a hobby so health etc the main thing. Plenty more of them.

For the meantime we can just sit and be cynical about the first sub 1 hour 2nd half of a marathon  ;D (Or not be cynical and marvel at it - whatever you decide  ;D)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 24, 2023, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
I knew quite a few doing Manchester who spoke very highly of it. End of day like football etc it's a hobby so health etc the main thing. Plenty more of them.

For the meantime we can just sit and be cynical about the first sub 1 hour 2nd half of a marathon  ;D (Or not be cynical and marvel at it - whatever you decide  ;D)
Big time , just happy to get out at all and do a bit . Nobody knows what's for us so best enjoy it when we can.

Cynical all the way!  The juicing going on is something mad I reckon. I see Nike prototype shoes were in action in London as well .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 03:21:04 PM
Didn't read about the shoes yet but there's too many incidents in Kenya these days so you'd be mad not to be a bit cynical for a 59 2nd half of marathon after a 61 odd first half!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on July 20, 2023, 04:56:43 PM
Never been much of a runner but need some tips. I'm doing hyrox in October. A fitness race. Basically it's 8x1km runs with a fitness station at the end of each run. Ski. Row. Farmers walks. Sled push and pull. Burpees. Wall balls. I'm ok with these but struggle with running. Any advice would be appreciated. Including mundane things like footwear as I don't think CrossFit trainers would be beat
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on July 22, 2023, 06:23:50 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2023, 04:56:43 PM
Never been much of a runner but need some tips. I'm doing hyrox in October. A fitness race. Basically it's 8x1km runs with a fitness station at the end of each run. Ski. Row. Farmers walks. Sled push and pull. Burpees. Wall balls. I'm ok with these but struggle with running. Any advice would be appreciated. Including mundane things like footwear as I don't think CrossFit trainers would be beat
Sounds like a pair of daily trainers like a Nike Pegasus would suit. I don't know much about Hyrox but I'm sure you probably don't need a carbon racing shoe or anything.
Best of luck it looks brutal, there's a guy on YouTube Mark Lewis that I have seen a few times and he's into these Hyrox events.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2023, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?

Done loads over the years and better participants on here than me but.... As you have rightly pointed out, the cyclists have a huge advantage over decent runners or swimmers as cycling, even over the 12 miles in a sprint tri will have a bigger advantage.

The good bikes, better cyclists just motor past you on the road. If you are looking to improve, that's the place to target.. if you are looking diversity in sport and enjoy the great atmosphere then just improve what you can and enjoy it, best training I've ever done in fairness too

The craic is 90 and everyone seems to encourage you, pick multiple events to get around
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 06, 2023, 02:40:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2023, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?

Done loads over the years and better participants on here than me but.... As you have rightly pointed out, the cyclists have a huge advantage over decent runners or swimmers as cycling, even over the 12 miles in a sprint tri will have a bigger advantage.

The good bikes, better cyclists just motor past you on the road. If you are looking to improve, that's the place to target.. if you are looking diversity in sport and enjoy the great atmosphere then just improve what you can and enjoy it, best training I've ever done in fairness too

The craic is 90 and everyone seems to encourage you, pick multiple events to get around

Yeah I was out with a mate who would cycle a lot. I beat him in the run and the swim well, but he kicked my ass in the cycle. That said we finished on the same time.
I've few easy gains that can be made on the bike. Mine was a 20+ year old bike with normal pedals. Plus I've still not mastered the gears right!!
Would consider looking at 2nd hand bikes. Just wouldn't be willing to blow £1k+ on a bike when it could be a passing fad with me. Any recommendations for what to look for in a 2nd hand? Budget maybe £4-500.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2023, 03:19:54 PM
The bikes everything though not just getting a faster time as such, more so using less energy and having more energy for the run.

The better bike will help but you've got to get the miles in to use it better also.. there's plenty of buy and sell sites to get a decent second hand one, make sure you size it for your height has to be fitted for bike shoes and test it out before buying blindly
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WeeDonns on August 07, 2023, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 06, 2023, 02:40:39 PM
Yeah I was out with a mate who would cycle a lot. I beat him in the run and the swim well, but he kicked my ass in the cycle. That said we finished on the same time.
I've few easy gains that can be made on the bike. Mine was a 20+ year old bike with normal pedals. Plus I've still not mastered the gears right!!
Would consider looking at 2nd hand bikes. Just wouldn't be willing to blow £1k+ on a bike when it could be a passing fad with me. Any recommendations for what to look for in a 2nd hand? Budget maybe £4-500.

Do the cycle scheme, there's no cap on it anymore (depending on your employer)
Get a mountain bike while you're at it & come to the glens on Tuesday nights during the winter  ;)

On 2nd hand bikes locally; I've noticed that people that buy them new for £500, still want to sell them for £500 2 years later.
brother-in-law sold a few recently for a fair deprecated price on facebook, they were gone in a couple of hours
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedHand88 on August 07, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?

Was at Loughmacrory myself on Saturday too, but only as a spectator! Aiming to do it next year and wanted to see how changeovers etc worked.
Cycling would be my main thing, I cycled the tri the lough route a few weeks ago and it's tight enough compared to others. Few tough hills and the road conditions are treacherous in parts with the potholes.
Well done on completing it though, you've done something that the vast majority of people never accomplish.
Cycling would be the easiest thing to tighten up on I think. With a few months at it you'll be flying. If you are doing ok at swimming the other 2 will come to you easier.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 07, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 07, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?

Was at Loughmacrory myself on Saturday too, but only as a spectator! Aiming to do it next year and wanted to see how changeovers etc worked.
Cycling would be my main thing, I cycled the tri the lough route a few weeks ago and it's tight enough compared to others. Few tough hills and the road conditions are treacherous in parts with the potholes.
Well done on completing it though, you've done something that the vast majority of people never accomplish.
Cycling would be the easiest thing to tighten up on I think. With a few months at it you'll be flying. If you are doing ok at swimming the other 2 will come to you easier.
Cheers, yeah it's definitely the cycling that hit me. Took 43 odd mins for a 20k. Mate did it in 36. But managed the swim in just over 17 mins and run in 24. Total time was 1hr 27 so was delighted to get under the hr and half.
Going to have to invest in a new bike and a proper wetsuit. The Lidl one will have to be retired....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 07, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 07, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 05, 2023, 11:06:33 PM
Wasn't sure where to stick this, but did first triathlon today, albeit a sprint one. Have to say really enjoyed it and liked the variety rather than just the running. Fell down badly in the cycling, as badly equipped and only started practicing bout a month ago. Would be tempted to try for an Olympic tri next year.
Many on here do them?

Was at Loughmacrory myself on Saturday too, but only as a spectator! Aiming to do it next year and wanted to see how changeovers etc worked.
Cycling would be my main thing, I cycled the tri the lough route a few weeks ago and it's tight enough compared to others. Few tough hills and the road conditions are treacherous in parts with the potholes.
Well done on completing it though, you've done something that the vast majority of people never accomplish.
Cycling would be the easiest thing to tighten up on I think. With a few months at it you'll be flying. If you are doing ok at swimming the other 2 will come to you easier.
Cheers, yeah it's definitely the cycling that hit me. Took 43 odd mins for a 20k. Mate did it in 36. But managed the swim in just over 17 mins and run in 24. Total time was 1hr 27 so was delighted to get under the hr and half.
Going to have to invest in a new bike and a proper wetsuit. The Lidl one will have to be retired....

Wet suit needs to be thin, less drag, under 1.30 is very good, the hardest one I done is from Rostrevor up the Mournes!! Set that as your Olympic distance next year
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2023, 09:40:57 AM
Big night for mageean tonight. She is in fantastic shape but this race is so strong I think a medal may be a stretch though I really hope I am wrong. I predict 5th but hope for more.

Adeleke going well too though she looked very tired last night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 22, 2023, 08:40:11 PM
4th. Not far away Tommy. Seemed a strong group. She bate the Brits anyway. Some support for her
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2023, 08:45:19 PM
She ran fantastically but that is such a strong distance. Beat all the brits like you say. I think she ran as good a race tactically as she possibly could have.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2023, 08:47:00 PM
Kipyegon was always going to win that the way she's been going and Hassan was always likely to get one but any one of about 8 of them could have been medallists. 4th is always heartbreaking but a PB in a world final behind two of the best of all time is a fantastic performance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Watcher on August 22, 2023, 08:51:16 PM
She ran great.  Almost wish she was well beat as she came so close
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2023, 09:29:35 PM
On Adele btw, I think she could very understandably be tired after a very long college season where she's made massive gains. You saw what happened to Britton Wilson. I don't think that's what was on show yesterday though, I think she just miscalculated the first half of the race and had to really work for it in the second 200m
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2023, 09:43:44 PM
I would predict fourth for adeleke but hopefully higher...

Mageean has had her best season ever and that will hopefully stand to her in Olympic year next year. She beat Laura muir by more or less two seconds which is huge and the gap to fifth was big. I hope she builds on this for olympics but she should get stronger. There's a 355 in her I think.

The 4 x 400 might be interesting too as mawdseley isn't bad and Becker half decent too. Medal probably a stretch but maybe a final who knows.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2023, 09:56:16 PM
Terrific interview from Mageean on BBC, she always speaks well. She must be devastated but 4th in the world and the top non-African is something she's rightly proud of.

Kipyegon is just something else though. There was a close up shot from the tracking camera going down the back straight on the final lap. The speed and fluency is obscene.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2023, 10:04:59 PM
The running technique she has is phenomenal. So consistent, fast and compact.

Mageean is a real character. The thing about that race was that she believed she would medal and she raced with complete confidence and that in mind. The mile in Monaco gave her massive confidence I think as there was muir, the Australian girl hull I think and possibly one or two others who had her number in the past and she beat them well. Hopefully the olympics has something in store for her.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: marty34 on August 22, 2023, 10:11:55 PM
Fair play Ciara. Great effort.

Hoefully she'll get focussed again and push on over the next 12 months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Pub Bore on August 23, 2023, 09:15:56 AM
It'll probably get overlooked because she didn't get a medal but that run by Mageean last night was one of the best ever by an Irish athlete in a major race.  She's very good at the press stuff too.  I wonder how they're feeling in Listowel ;)  The quality of that field was scary.  As for Adeleke, I think she's going to be a huge star but she did look a bit sluggish in the semi final.  Unfortunately for her that 400m race is  stacked with talent too.  But she has a minimum of two, probably three Olympics in front of her.  Another 4th tonight??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: johnnycool on August 23, 2023, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 23, 2023, 09:15:56 AM
It'll probably get overlooked because she didn't get a medal but that run by Mageean last night was one of the best ever by an Irish athlete in a major race.  She's very good at the press stuff too.  I wonder how they're feeling in Listowel ;)  The quality of that field was scary.  As for Adeleke, I think she's going to be a huge star but she did look a bit sluggish in the semi final.  Unfortunately for her that 400m race is  stacked with talent too.  But she has a minimum of two, probably three Olympics in front of her.  Another 4th tonight??

Go to Portaferry GAC's facebook page, they've a wee 6 second video in the clubhouse of everyone watching the race and right at the end is a man standing with the fist out..

That's her Da, the white hunter, a fierce, fierce competitor in his day if you ever wonder where she got it from, she didn't lick it off the ground.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2023, 08:39:00 PM
Another bloody fourth  :( (fourth in the world is great but gutting not to get a medal for these runners)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Capt Pat on August 23, 2023, 09:44:51 PM
4th for both Irish runners is unfortunate but it should keep them hungry for the olympics next year. The timing of the olympics is not too bad especially for Adeleke.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:58:16 PM
Serious question. Would that hairstyle not have cost her time???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Pub Bore on August 24, 2023, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:58:16 PM
Serious question. Would that hairstyle not have cost her time???

Maybe if it came down to 1000ths of a second.  Adeleke looked tired in the semi and she was slower again in the final.  I think her semi time would have got her the bronze.  Apparently the US college season is brutal in terms of the amount of racing they do. The runner Adeleke beat into 2nd in the NCAA final didn't make it out of her heat.  You could see at 250m her head was already rolling from side to side.  I think she was just knackered.  But she has huge potential and is now a genuine medal contender in future Olympics and World Champs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: marty34 on August 24, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 24, 2023, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:58:16 PM
Serious question. Would that hairstyle not have cost her time???

Maybe if it came down to 1000ths of a second.  Adeleke looked tired in the semi and she was slower again in the final.  I think her semi time would have got her the bronze.  Apparently the US college season is brutal in terms of the amount of racing they do. The runner Adeleke beat into 2nd in the NCAA final didn't make it out of her heat.  You could see at 250m her head was already rolling from side to side.  I think she was just knackered.  But she has huge potential and is now a genuine medal contender in future Olympics and World Champs.

Will Adeleke have to go back to America again?

That's a tough enough gig and only 20 years old.  Pity she couldn't get that level of training in Ireland but probably not available.

Great potential and hopefully she stays injury free.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 24, 2023, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 24, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 24, 2023, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:58:16 PM
Serious question. Would that hairstyle not have cost her time???

Maybe if it came down to 1000ths of a second.  Adeleke looked tired in the semi and she was slower again in the final.  I think her semi time would have got her the bronze.  Apparently the US college season is brutal in terms of the amount of racing they do. The runner Adeleke beat into 2nd in the NCAA final didn't make it out of her heat.  You could see at 250m her head was already rolling from side to side.  I think she was just knackered.  But she has huge potential and is now a genuine medal contender in future Olympics and World Champs.

Will Adeleke have to go back to America again?

That's a tough enough gig and only 20 years old.  Pity she couldn't get that level of training in Ireland but probably not available.

Great potential and hopefully she stays injury free.

She's turned pro so can't compete in the NCAA but will continue to train in Texas with the same coaches. Relatively few of the big meets she'll be targeting in future are in the US. Only one Diamond League event each year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 24, 2023, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 24, 2023, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 24, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on August 24, 2023, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:58:16 PM
Serious question. Would that hairstyle not have cost her time???

Maybe if it came down to 1000ths of a second.  Adeleke looked tired in the semi and she was slower again in the final.  I think her semi time would have got her the bronze.  Apparently the US college season is brutal in terms of the amount of racing they do. The runner Adeleke beat into 2nd in the NCAA final didn't make it out of her heat.  You could see at 250m her head was already rolling from side to side.  I think she was just knackered.  But she has huge potential and is now a genuine medal contender in future Olympics and World Champs.

Will Adeleke have to go back to America again?

That's a tough enough gig and only 20 years old.  Pity she couldn't get that level of training in Ireland but probably not available.

Great potential and hopefully she stays injury free.

She's turned pro so can't compete in the NCAA but will continue to train in Texas with the same coaches. Relatively few of the big meets she'll be targeting in future are in the US. Only one Diamond League event each year.

She will still be studying but obviously not running for Texas A&M.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gallsman on August 24, 2023, 12:59:55 PM
Will she? Ineligible for her athletic scholarship obvs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: magpie seanie on August 24, 2023, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 24, 2023, 12:59:55 PM
Will she? Ineligible for her athletic scholarship obvs.

She has one more year of her degree left and it appears she will have the same coach so I presume she's going to at least finish her degree. She won't be training all day every day. I saw an article where it said she needed to factor in college fees into whatever financial package she'd get to go professional.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on September 10, 2023, 11:52:02 AM
I ran a half marathon in Ratoath yesterday, didn't go to plan because of the extremely hot weather and I was disappointed after it.Heard this morning though that another runner died during it, times don't really matter when you hear something like that, getting home safely is all that matters. Very sad RIP.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: KOTS3 on September 14, 2023, 04:33:37 PM
Just wondering how people manage maintaining strength while taking up running?

Planning on doing a half marathon training plan over the next 12-16 weeks that will involve 4/5 sessions a week but don't want to lose too much strength in the mean time - has anyone a plan that includes running and gym work i.e. days to do double sessions, when best to work legs so as not to be fatigued on a run etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2023, 04:37:50 PM
Do your strength sessions on your hard running days then you need the recovery anyway. Tbh you shouldn't need loads of hard running days anyway. Maximum 2 during week and your long run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on October 29, 2023, 02:13:44 PM
Ran 3:17 in Dublin today. Delighted.
Anyone else run it? Support fantastic as always.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: jcpen on October 29, 2023, 02:13:44 PMRan 3:17 in Dublin today. Delighted.
Anyone else run it? Support fantastic as always.

Superb time jcpen.. wife mate was doing it looking to get under 4 hours

Edit: I see she did it 3.53!

Ran today on treadmill... feck I'm like an old man (well, I'm couple months away from 52!) 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minus15 on October 30, 2023, 09:06:28 PM
Quote from: jcpen on October 29, 2023, 02:13:44 PMRan 3:17 in Dublin today. Delighted.
Anyone else run it? Support fantastic as always.

First time marathon yesterday. 3.34. Couldn't get over the support. On a soaking wet day too. Class experience from start to finish.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bennydorano on November 11, 2023, 04:23:47 PM
I'm after a decent sports watch figure you guys would be more into them than the cycling thread. I'm particularly after one with a very accurate HRM read from the wrist, don't need the extra bells & whistles. I've had a fitbit b4 and some other Amazon crap that  I melted with sweat within a few months. Not into Apple products. Dont really want to spend more than £100-150. Cycling & daily use i suppose, no running. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on November 11, 2023, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 11, 2023, 04:23:47 PMI'm after a decent sports watch figure you guys would be more into them than the cycling thread. I'm particularly after one with a very accurate HRM read from the wrist, don't need the extra bells & whistles. I've had a fitbit b4 and some other Amazon crap that  I melted with sweat within a few months. Not into Apple products. Dont really want to spend more than £100-150. Cycling & daily use i suppose, no running. Any suggestions?
Go for whatever garmin you can get for that price. An older forerunner is prob your best bet for accurate heart rate. Prob get the 55 for round the ton mark in Black Friday sale. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2023, 05:08:52 PM
I wouldn't be sure the wrist heart rate would be too accurate is the only thing I would say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trueblue1234 on November 11, 2023, 05:26:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2023, 05:08:52 PMI wouldn't be sure the wrist heart rate would be too accurate is the only thing I would say.
£150 budget tho. Not going to find much better in that range.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 12, 2023, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2023, 05:08:52 PMI wouldn't be sure the wrist heart rate would be too accurate is the only thing I would say.
I'd second that. I've a Garmin, the difference in my max heart rate is huge at times. I'd do a slow short run and it might hit max hr 170, I'd do a long fast one coming home completely out of breath and might have only hit max hr 150.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bennydorano on November 12, 2023, 07:06:35 PM
Cheers.

Any Polar users? Can see similar priced products with Polar. The current chest HRM I'm using is Polar and has outlasted a couple of Garmin & Wahoo units, so a good brand imo
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2023, 10:50:25 PM
15:13 from Ciara at the Victoria Parkrun in Belfast.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: nrico2006 on December 23, 2023, 10:52:38 PM
I just came onto this page to see wtf Tony Baloney was doing writing here.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2023, 10:54:14 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 23, 2023, 10:52:38 PMI just came onto this page to see wtf Tony Baloney was doing writing here.
Come back in the New Year and I may have started running  ;D .

I cant see who the last poster is on this new format. If I'd known it was you I wouldn't have bothered
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2023, 01:05:42 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2023, 10:50:25 PM15:13 from Ciara at the Victoria Parkrun in Belfast.

It's the flattest course and quickest
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on December 24, 2023, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 23, 2023, 10:50:25 PM15:13 from Ciara at the Victoria Parkrun in Belfast.
Some running. Fastest parkrun by a woman ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LC on January 05, 2024, 06:21:10 AM
Could do with a bit of advice.

Currently running with Mizuno Wave Horizon 6 shoes, they are grand but I would be prone to calf strains so looking to further minimise impact.  Are there any in soles out there that any one would recommend?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 08:34:51 AM
I know a lot swear by hokas wrt calf injuries. Also I would say it is not necessarily shoes are you issue - strength  / mobility plays a big part in these kind of things.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 08:34:51 AMI know a lot swear by hokas wrt calf injuries. Also I would say it is not necessarily shoes are you issue - strength  / mobility plays a big part in these kind of things.

Would echo that imtommygunn, most muscle type injuries I've found over the years are down to other things rather than the shoes, the Hoka's though provide great cushion when running, Santa got the kids Hoka's for Xmas!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LC on January 05, 2024, 10:10:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 08:34:51 AMI know a lot swear by hokas wrt calf injuries. Also I would say it is not necessarily shoes are you issue - strength  / mobility plays a big part in these kind of things.

Gym 3 days a week in the past couple of years which has substantially helped.  Still have problems on occasion which is quite frustrating when you are trying to get some consistency going in terms of distances / time.  In terms of further reducing the risk I was thinking the insoles might help, I am already wearing calf sleeves.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on January 05, 2024, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: LC on January 05, 2024, 06:21:10 AMCould do with a bit of advice.

Currently running with Mizuno Wave Horizon 6 shoes, they are grand but I would be prone to calf strains so looking to further minimise impact.  Are there any in soles out there that any one would recommend?

Thanks.

Hoka Clifton 8's.  Hoka can be quite expensive but these have worked really well for me in helping with calf and achilles problems.  Not the most up to date version of the Clifton but you will usually find a good deal on some of the usual websites.

Agree with the boys also, the strength work is crucial and take the easy days really easy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2024, 09:52:43 PM
Do many of you pay attention to heart rate when running? I've been messing around with this recently. I'm around 144-149 during a longer run at medium pace. However, recently, I've found it hard to stay below 155, sometimes hitting 170. I know many experienced runners will tell you to ignore it, and that watch readings aren't great. Just wondering if anyone pays heed to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 10:15:50 PM
Yeah it's a great way to train. If there's nothing wrong with your monitor then assuming your fitness, pace, effort etc is constant then it can be indicative there's a cold or something in you. Quite a few variables though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 10:24:04 PM
Btw there's a great book called the compleat idiot's guide to heart rate training which is a great source on heart rate training. If you're an experienced runner you can tend to run to feel but until you know your body properly that can be hard so the heart rate monitor is very useful for deducing effort levels for specific sessions etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2024, 10:28:14 PM
If I'm doing an official run (ie parkrun at my level) I ignore heart rate, as I just want to empty it. During the week though I try to stay within that 140-150 and find I've to tailor my pace to suit that. Probably nothing wrong with running at 155ish but I know if I'm comfortable, 147/8 is normal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2024, 10:31:01 PM
Yeah I would have been the same. If the difference is negligible enough then stress, sleep etc could be factors that make it drift a bit. As long as you're not in the red and in it easily the probably not a big deal but it is a good barometer as to whether you are ticking over ok in general.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on January 06, 2024, 07:17:45 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 05, 2024, 09:52:43 PMDo many of you pay attention to heart rate when running? I've been messing around with this recently. I'm around 144-149 during a longer run at medium pace. However, recently, I've found it hard to stay below 155, sometimes hitting 170. I know many experienced runners will tell you to ignore it, and that watch readings aren't great. Just wondering if anyone pays heed to it.

Buy the chest strap. The watch isn't great I've found. You're also probably going too fast for your slow runs.

Trying to get more running done myself. A marathon in the back of my head for this year and trying to see if I could build up to one again. Hurt my knee already ffs. I have been plagued by bursitis or patella tendonitis in the past and it's started to come back now thst I'm building up the miles.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on January 07, 2024, 12:29:50 PM
Finding it very hard to get motivated to go for a run, ran the Dublin Marathon back in October and have ran very little since.
Was thinking of signing up for the Newry Half to give me something to train for and hopefully a bit of motivation, anyone ran it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on February 07, 2024, 10:37:34 PM
Parkrun have removed a lot of data from their website in relation to different types of records. Disappointing as while I was never going to come even remotely close to breaking any records I did find it interesting at times looking at different parkrun stats. Not sure what the real reason for this is but have seen it suggested that it's about males running in the female category and getting course records?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PM
Booked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on February 08, 2024, 12:44:51 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PMBooked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
I live in New York and I have done it 8 times. Nothing too fast, my best time is 3:56. It is the only marathon that I have done so I can't compare it with anything else but I loved it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Astrail on February 08, 2024, 03:46:40 AM
Quote from: clarshack on February 07, 2024, 10:37:34 PMParkrun have removed a lot of data from their website in relation to different types of records. Disappointing as while I was never going to come even remotely close to breaking any records I did find it interesting at times looking at different parkrun stats. Not sure what the real reason for this is but have seen it suggested that it's about males running in the female category and getting course records?

Those damn transgenders, taking all the parkrun medals and prize money...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 07:22:56 AM
From the group I train with a few have done new york and the feeling is that it's fantastic but is also a very tough marathon.

Hadn't realised parkrun had removed records etc but there was a lot of furore around the categories etc so I suspect it's that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 07:33:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 07:22:56 AMFrom the group I train with a few have done new york and the feeling is that it's fantastic but is also a very tough marathon.

Hadn't realised parkrun had removed records etc but there was a lot of furore around the categories etc so I suspect it's that.

Prize money at park runs? Park runs are not taken seriously, well I never thought they were. It's a Saturday morning bitta craic run.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on February 08, 2024, 07:55:53 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PMBooked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
Did you get in through a ballot or go down the route of the sports tours?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 07:33:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 07:22:56 AMFrom the group I train with a few have done new york and the feeling is that it's fantastic but is also a very tough marathon.

Hadn't realised parkrun had removed records etc but there was a lot of furore around the categories etc so I suspect it's that.

Prize money at park runs? Park runs are not taken seriously, well I never thought they were. It's a Saturday morning bitta craic run.



There's no prize money but they keep track of records. Quite a few womens records were broken by transgender athletes and that caused a bit of a furore. They seem to matter to some people...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: square_ball on February 08, 2024, 09:32:19 AM
Do Ciara Mageean and Nick Griggs not hold the records for the Ireland park runs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on February 08, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: jcpen on February 08, 2024, 07:55:53 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PMBooked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
Did you get in through a ballot or go down the route of the sports tours?


Running for a charity called 'Tiny Life'. It's a charity that helped me a lot in the past so time to repay them. It'll cost me a fortune but sure it's a once in a life time type thing for me. If anyone wants to sponsor a few quid then I will fire the link up. I have no shame lol

I am not really worried about a time or anything and I know it's a very tough and hilly marathon so I will be happy just finishing. I need to get a coach or someone to train with to keep me right and injury free. I have no clue how to structure the year from now to start of November. It's too early to train for the marathon so I might try focus on a few half marathons first.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 08, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: jcpen on February 08, 2024, 07:55:53 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PMBooked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
Did you get in through a ballot or go down the route of the sports tours?


Running for a charity called 'Tiny Life'. It's a charity that helped me a lot in the past so time to repay them. It'll cost me a fortune but sure it's a once in a life time type thing for me. If anyone wants to sponsor a few quid then I will fire the link up. I have no shame lol

I am not really worried about a time or anything and I know it's a very tough and hilly marathon so I will be happy just finishing. I need to get a coach or someone to train with to keep me right and injury free. I have no clue how to structure the year from now to start of November. It's too early to train for the marathon so I might try focus on a few half marathons first.

Start with the parkruns, get up to the 10k's and pick out the Ards, Lisburn and Larne half marathons, that'll get ya used to running in events. Do not look at times, you can not win the race, so enjoy it, I never went out with a coach or a running club, but anyone I know that does, says it helped them far better than preparing solo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 10:09:26 AM
Build your endurance. Go slow (slow I always use as a relative term in running - slow for your pace). The parkruns etc are good if you need company but main thing you need to build up is an endurance base. Now is the time to build that to upping the miles later in the year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tonto1888 on February 08, 2024, 12:13:12 PM
Best of luck with it Jim
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 12:38:06 PM
Oh and Tiny life is a very deserving charity, throw the link up closer to the time lol, always good to run for a charity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jcpen on February 08, 2024, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 08, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Quote from: jcpen on February 08, 2024, 07:55:53 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2024, 10:41:40 PMBooked New York marathon for November! Anyone ever done it?
Did you get in through a ballot or go down the route of the sports tours?


Running for a charity called 'Tiny Life'. It's a charity that helped me a lot in the past so time to repay them. It'll cost me a fortune but sure it's a once in a life time type thing for me. If anyone wants to sponsor a few quid then I will fire the link up. I have no shame lol

I am not really worried about a time or anything and I know it's a very tough and hilly marathon so I will be happy just finishing. I need to get a coach or someone to train with to keep me right and injury free. I have no clue how to structure the year from now to start of November. It's too early to train for the marathon so I might try focus on a few half marathons first.
Fair play best of luck. I think running something as iconic as the New York Marathon it's right to just enjoy it(as much as anyone can enjoy running 42km ;D ) and not worry about time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2024, 10:26:42 AM
https://www.facebook.com/brockenhurstparkrun

seen that some man in England has resigned as an Event Director at his local Parkrun over the whole carry on this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2024, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 07:33:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 07:22:56 AMFrom the group I train with a few have done new york and the feeling is that it's fantastic but is also a very tough marathon.

Hadn't realised parkrun had removed records etc but there was a lot of furore around the categories etc so I suspect it's that.

Prize money at park runs? Park runs are not taken seriously, well I never thought they were. It's a Saturday morning bitta craic run.


It is for most people but the first so many over the line definitely take it seriously.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2024, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: clarshack on February 09, 2024, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 07:33:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 07:22:56 AMFrom the group I train with a few have done new york and the feeling is that it's fantastic but is also a very tough marathon.

Hadn't realised parkrun had removed records etc but there was a lot of furore around the categories etc so I suspect it's that.

Prize money at park runs? Park runs are not taken seriously, well I never thought they were. It's a Saturday morning bitta craic run.


It is for most people but the first so many over the line definitely take it seriously.


I've done dozens of them over the years, and I've never seen that as thing to be honest, I've ran them hard (breaking 20mins was the target) and easy but never got that vibe from the guys/ladies at the front. I suppose its different in other places.


There's never been prize money and its a voluntary run set up, the wife even volunteered one time outta guilt for showing up every week.

Running in most cases is a personal thing, its you the road and the time, that doesn't become a thing as you get older mind you!!

Should we just ban all transgenders at these things or just create a category and move on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LC on February 10, 2024, 01:08:44 PM
Having frustrating problems with a hamstring issue that I cant get on top of.

Not necessarily pulling the hamstring but it keeps cramping on a regular basis and that is basically when I am jogging a relatively slow pace of approx 6 mins per 1k.  Going to a physio on a regular basis but it seems to be always two steps forward and three steps back.  One person told me you should be stretching every day whether your running or not and another person said too much stretching is a bad thing.

Very frustrating as I am just looking to run an easy 10k with no aspirations for half or full marathons or anything like that.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2024, 02:58:19 PM
As odd as this sounds it's not necessarily a hamstring problem. Make sure your glute is strong enough and stretch too. If your glute isn't strong enough your hamstring will pick up the slack. Also check hip flexor and quad tightness. If they're tight they will cause hamstring to overwork. Basically what is going on with your hamstring is probably it having to pick up the slack for something else not working right.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LC on February 10, 2024, 03:09:01 PM
Thanks for this and what you are saying makes senses.

In the days I have been out for a run and the hamstring (primarily left side) has not cramped my left glute has felt tight however.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 24, 2024, 02:16:16 PM
Anyone ever get random cramps in the foot. I'm running 4/5 days a week. No change in mileage. The cramping can happen hours after running. When I'm sitting around. Very strange.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Nanderson on February 24, 2024, 02:42:31 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on February 24, 2024, 02:16:16 PMAnyone ever get random cramps in the foot. I'm running 4/5 days a week. No change in mileage. The cramping can happen hours after running. When I'm sitting around. Very strange.
I'd be thinking an electrolyte imbalance
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AustinPowers on February 24, 2024, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on February 24, 2024, 02:16:16 PMAnyone ever get random cramps in the foot. I'm running 4/5 days a week. No change in mileage. The cramping can happen hours after running. When I'm sitting around. Very strange.

I get this fairly  often. Not so much when exercising  but  it tends to happen  in the evening.  Sometimes lying in bed .

mostly  it happens when I'm  doing my Pilates  style   stretches  which  I do most days. The foot just locks and the it can be painful