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How many points are mayo faxoured by

9 points according to Paddt Power. Mayo (-9) evens, Sligo (+9) 10/11, Handicap Draw (-9) 11/1.

thats a great beat i cant ee mayo winning by anymore than 8 points

We beat them by 9 by playing for 30 minutes in the second half and spotting them 8 points at the half. I know people on here have some sort of fetish for the poor mouth but if Mayo, a better team than us, want to they're fully able to beat Sligo by much more than 8 points.

Christ, their defense made AOS look like a forward the last time ye played..

A terrible shame for you that this superlative Roscommon side is only a little better than one of the poorest Sligo sides in decades. Is that the level you're striving for?

[Coolera Strandhill have very big picks and should be good enough to make an impact at Connacht level.]

It was good to get the NY banana skin out of the way.

I think Carew takes a little too much stick from some of us, he's taken the job at a bad time. A group of players which served us very well under Tommy Breheny and Kevin Walsh came to the end of their tenure and what was left are a rather mediocre group of players with all due respect.

Breheny, Harrison, Egan, Marren, Donovan are all in their mid 30s now and are all starters and I think we should be very grateful for these guys hanging on as I don't think there is much genuine hope of success in their twilight years and they could have easily just decided to walk away. I think certainly without them we'd be fighting it out in Div 4 with the likes of Carlow and Waterford.

There's very little in the way of talent in the 25-30 age bracket in Sligo football, from my viewings of club football in Sligo over the past few years and their performances in Connacht I think it's fair to say we have one of the worst club championships in the country which is a big worry as clubs like Johns, Marys, Harps and Coolera Strandhill have very big picks and should be good enough to make an impact at Connacht level.

Thankfully we seem to bringing in some quality young footballers at the moment so the future looks reasonably bright with guys like McDonnell, Murphy, Breheny, O'Connor, Cawley, Cummins etc giving the team a solid backbone.

I've been disappointed with the lack of opportunities afforded to Cathal Henry this year, thought he was the best club player in Sligo last year and would give a side very lacking in size some presence.

I'd be happy if we can take a 10 point defeat in Mayo. I feel we could get destroyed in midfield and at the back.

Any updates on the injuries to Murphy and Hughes?

Can you give me some tips and I'll gladly bring them back to the club? Or is this just unfounded pub talk? We were well fit to rattle a Connacht title in the early to mid 2000's but having 7 or 8 lads on a county panel mucked us up totally. We barely won one county senior title, never mind a Connacht. We were too good to the county. Pointing the finger of blame at us is bullshit of the highest order. Even when others turned their backs on the county our lads played. You've a cheek to make that comment. The last 20 odd years have been undoubtedly the most successful in our clubs history despite the emergence of St Mary's beside us a few decades beforehand.

If you only knew the work people do in those clubs and what challenges they face every day you might have the cop on to not post such rubbish. You also left out one or two other clubs with massive populations and/or areas that wouldn't have supplied the same number of players to county teams as Harps, John's, Mary's or ourselves. I'd love to know why.

As for Cathal Henry - did you see the hoops Niall Murphy had to jump through over the years to finally establish himself in the side? When it was patently obvious he was going to be brilliant. He carried barrels of sand up and down dunes the evening before a county U-21A final - another example of the shit we've had to suffer as a club over the years. I know the lad you mention is highly rated in some parts but he'll never get a chance while Carew, who you constantly defend, persists with lads who are over the hill, repeatedly tried and failed or have no workrate.

The biggest problem in our county is politics, closely followed by club structures.

This is my exact point.

A lot of valid criticism can be directed towards Carew your post is just nonsense and you're tyring to pin the blame on him for everything wrong with Sligo football today. You look at the mess he took Sligo over in, what were the best prospects he could have?

We have secured Division 3 football in both seasons at his helm which I think has been a positive.

We appeared in a Connacht final in 2015, the Mayo performance was shameful and he rightly deserves criticism for that.

We should have beaten Roscommon again last year and he rightly deserves criticism for the way we crumbled in the second half.

But apart from that there is not really a lot more he could have done, the resources in Sligo are pretty poor. Club standard in the county is an absolute joke, I stated this earlier which you seem to have completely misunderstood and taken it as some sort of dig at your own side. You seem to be pinning Niall Murphy not getting a game in previous years on Carew? Carew was the first manager that trusted Murphy and he's been a regular since Carew came in, he's one of our key men.

I'm very much on the fence about Carew but your over the top criticism are absolute nonsense. He came into Sligo football when it has been at a low ebb, I don't think many managers would have fared an awful lot better. You can look at the standard of footballer in Sligo at the 25-30 age bracket and it's pretty awful which is why our side is mainly comprised up of 30 + veterans and a bunch of young lads. We don't seem to be able to produced any good footballers with a bit of size to them in the past 10 years.

The biggest problem with Sligo is not politics or anything like that. I can't think of too many players in Sligo who are currently playing that should be on the panel, we have a very promising batch of young lads coming through from the minor team of 2 years ago, many whom played for the u21s this year so it's very important we keep them involved and progress them in the coming years.

The biggest problem with Sligo football is just the appalling level of  club football at the minute. We don't have too many clubs in Sligo but a lot of them are pretty big clubs with good cachement areas. If you contrast us with a county like Monaghan, who have a similar population to us. Monaghan have 50 odd GAA clubs, I think there are 26 in Sligo. You've got clubs like Johns, Marys, Harps and Coolera/Strandhill, clubs with big picks and you look at how they've performed in recent years - dreadful. Johns and Harps have one county man each, both in their mid 30s. There is no reason why Sligo club champions shouldn't be able to come out of Connacht and be competitive but it looks to be embarrassment after embarrassment for the last 10 years for Sligo clubs at all levels and this points back to poor standard of player in the county at the minute.

There's so much waste in the county regarding talent. Ballymote down in Junior, Ballysadare not fielding a side, Owenmore Gaels for the past 20 years being stuck in the lower reaches. No West Sligo side in the senior championship. It's a sad state of affairs and it really needs to be addressed. For what its worth I think we have far too many amalgamations of clubs in this county, lads too greedy for short terms success and to take their barren years and rebuild.

For me there is absolutely no reason that Harps, Shamrock Gaels, Molaise Gaels, Coolera Strandhill all shouldn't be able to have multiple clubs in their area able to stand on their own. How do they manage it in counties like Monaghan? The logic in Sligo seems to be that if you're not good enough to play senior then you need to join up with your neighbouring county.

That's the biggest malaise of Sligo football, not Niall Carew as you try to keep informing us.

It was good to get the NY banana skin out of the way.

I think Carew takes a little too much stick from some of us, he's taken the job at a bad time. A group of players which served us very well under Tommy Breheny and Kevin Walsh came to the end of their tenure and what was left are a rather mediocre group of players with all due respect.

Breheny, Harrison, Egan, Marren, Donovan are all in their mid 30s now and are all starters and I think we should be very grateful for these guys hanging on as I don't think there is much genuine hope of success in their twilight years and they could have easily just decided to walk away. I think certainly without them we'd be fighting it out in Div 4 with the likes of Carlow and Waterford.

There's very little in the way of talent in the 25-30 age bracket in Sligo football, from my viewings of club football in Sligo over the past few years and their performances in Connacht I think it's fair to say we have one of the worst club championships in the country which is a big worry as clubs like Johns, Marys, Harps and Coolera Strandhill have very big picks and should be good enough to make an impact at Connacht level.

Thankfully we seem to bringing in some quality young footballers at the moment so the future looks reasonably bright with guys like McDonnell, Murphy, Breheny, O'Connor, Cawley, Cummins etc giving the team a solid backbone.

I've been disappointed with the lack of opportunities afforded to Cathal Henry this year, thought he was the best club player in Sligo last year and would give a side very lacking in size some presence.

I'd be happy if we can take a 10 point defeat in Mayo. I feel we could get destroyed in midfield and at the back.

Any updates on the injuries to Murphy and Hughes?

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.

Do you?

Yep. Good luck tell if yourself you're not a good bit off us after that second half because it takes some serious mental gymnastics to achieve. We have about 5 or 6 starters out and we still ran the table in the second half.

And what did the first half and last year's fixture tell you?

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.

Do you?

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

Well I think what he said was stupid. He played up Sligo. He should have been telling everyone how Roscommon were all Ireland contenders and Sligo were underdogs. Rossies would lap that up like a kitten with a saucer  of milk.

Maybe he should but I don't  disagree with what he said. I don't think there is much of a gap between the two sides, they might be better than us and have more depth than us but not by the levels certain people think. We beat them last year and could well have repeated that today but so be it.

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

You are raving lad, Roscommon toyed with ye in the second half and are still without a good few of their best players, worry about leitrim and new York as that is who ye are near to.

Toyed with us and were what, 3 points up with a few minutes to go?

As I said Sligo have serious problems, as poor as we have been for 20 years, lost the nucleus of our team under Walsh and are currently in a major rebuilding phase and we probably should have seen it out had we been a bit shrewder. But Roscommon are not much better than us and the games between them in the last two years show that.

Sligo are in a poor state at the minute, Roscommon are little better if their Championship performances are anything to go by. If Roscommon are planning on being where they think they should be they shouldn't be 8 points down to us at HT and they shouldn't be only a score ahead with minutes remaining in the game. The problem that seems to be prevalent with Roscommon is that they have codded themselves into thinking they are a level above other teams, it's why they've been dumped out of the last two Championships despite starting games as favourites.

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

Players wilted in the second half after the first goal. Losing two of our leaders in Marren and Harrison in the first half didn't help.

We've four or five really good young players in the likes of Hughes, Murphy, McDonnell, Cawley and Bregeny who we need to build the team around in the coming years and hopefully in 3 or 4 years we won't be whipping boys anymore.

I would be worried if I was a Rossie though given their aspirations. They were in real trouble there against as poor a Sligo side in 20 years and had we been smarter we could have seen it out.

We've a young side but our mental fragility is a big worry, we completely fold when things start turning against us.

Haven't seen the game back but I thought we definitely should have had a free out for the Roscommon penalty as I think Flanagan had his heels clipped as he was going for the kickout?

What's the weather promised like for this. I prefer it be dry from our point of view.

Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.

Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.

The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.

If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.

He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.

The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.

Yawn. If you want someone to play the gombeen and tell you how tough and brave Sligo are there's plenty out there to oblige. The fact is Sligo barely survived D3 last year and got ran out the gates in both games after the Ros one.

Yes. Sligo barely survived D3 but put you lot on your arses in Connacht.

Roscommon are all hot air. Sligo football is not in a great place at the minute but we're still not too far away from Roscommon when it comes to business time which tells you a lot about the levels of delusion with you bucks.

As a matter of interest how long do Roscommon have to back for a Championship win over Galway or Mayo or any decent Championship team for that matter?

Prove yourselves first before running your gob.

Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.

Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.

The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.

If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.

He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.

The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.

1. Aidan Devaney Calry/St.Joseph's
2 Daniel Maye Tubbercurry
3 Kevin McDonnell Castleconnor
4 Eoin Flanagan St. John's
5 Keelan Cawley Coolera/Standhill
6 Adrian McIntyre Tourlestrane
7 Brendan Egan St. Vincent's
8 Niall Murphy Coolera/Standhill
9 Cian Breheny St. Marys
10 Neil Ewing Drumcliffe/Rosses Point
11 Mark Breheny St. Marys (Captain)
12 Charlie Harrison St. Johns
13 Adrian Marren Curry
14 Pat Hughes Geevagh
15 Brian Egan Tourlestrane

Would expect McIntyre in midfield and Charlie dropping back into defence. Not many surprises there, Egan the only debutant.

Not really. Harrison and Ewing are natural defenders named in attack but at the same time Murphy and Breheny are forwards named in midfield. Team won't line up with the shape in accordance with the numbers. Plenty of mobility in that middle 8 though, we're not really able to spring any surprises as we're picking from a shallow pool. Won't be too many options on the bench to change things for us so it's imperative we start strongly.

1. Aidan Devaney Calry/St.Joseph's
2 Daniel Maye Tubbercurry
3 Kevin McDonnell Castleconnor
4 Eoin Flanagan St. John's
5 Keelan Cawley Coolera/Standhill
6 Adrian McIntyre Tourlestrane
7 Brendan Egan St. Vincent's
8 Niall Murphy Coolera/Standhill
9 Cian Breheny St. Marys
10 Neil Ewing Drumcliffe/Rosses Point
11 Mark Breheny St. Marys (Captain)
12 Charlie Harrison St. Johns
13 Adrian Marren Curry
14 Pat Hughes Geevagh
15 Brian Egan Tourlestrane

Would expect McIntyre in midfield and Charlie dropping back into defence. Not many surprises there, Egan the only debutant.