26 County General Election 2020

[seafoid]

Anyone recommend a good book that would give a fairly balanced view on the evolution of Irish politics from the 1900s up to date?

https://www.kennys.ie/history/years-of-turbulence-the-irish-revolution-and-its-aftermath.htm

[Rossfan]

Also, which Shinner thought it was a good idea to produce the tricolours and sing 'Come Out Ye Black and Tans'?

What a moron.

On a day when everything they touched turned to gold, this bunch of idiots managed to give the perennial naysayers a penalty kick.

I don't see why it's controversial which is probably why I don't see too many people getting worked up about it. Why would anyone get worked up about it outside of the blueshirts who realise it's a dig at them over the RIC commemoration? Why would any other self respecting Irish citizen be upset/offended by a song celebrating the fight for independence?

It was crass, triumphalist and unnecessary.

I don't think too many were offended.

They sang A Nation once again and Óró sé do bheatha 'bhaile after Claire Kerrane was declared elected .

[Snapchap]

Also, which Shinner thought it was a good idea to produce the tricolours and sing 'Come Out Ye Black and Tans'?

What a moron.

On a day when everything they touched turned to gold, this bunch of idiots managed to give the perennial naysayers a penalty kick.

I don't see why it's controversial which is probably why I don't see too many people getting worked up about it. Why would anyone get worked up about it outside of the blueshirts who realise it's a dig at them over the RIC commemoration? Why would any other self respecting Irish citizen be upset/offended by a song celebrating the fight for independence?

It was crass, triumphalist and unnecessary.

I don't think too many were offended.

Couldn't you say that about any song being sung to celebrate an election victory? Yet Pearse Doherty & Padraig McLoughlin in Donegal celebrated by singing 'Óró sé do Bheatha Abhaile'. Haven't seen any criticism what-so-ever of that. Why the difference? Was it purely because Ellis' one was an overt dig at FG over the RIC commemoration?

[Harold Disgracey]

Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire's supporters sang that well known Provo anthem 'Happy Birthday' to celebrate his victory.

[weareros]

Make no mistake. Doesn't matter whether it's left wing or right wing, we are entering the era of the Fíor-Ghael. It's no different to the ethno-nationalistic fervor of the UK waving Union Jacks, or Trumps America where the real Americans fly the stars and stripes. It will eventually rage against everything in particular globalism (to the Fior-Ghael that is multinationals paying no tax, immigrants taking jobs, loss of sovereignty to the EU, vulture funds owning all the property, West-Brit types with all the wealth). Ironically, the ethno-nationalism is itself a global trend coming to a country near you.

[tyroneman]

Anyone recommend a good book that would give a fairly balanced view on the evolution of Irish politics from the 1900s up to date?

https://www.kennys.ie/history/years-of-turbulence-the-irish-revolution-and-its-aftermath.htm

Cheers

[seafoid]

Make no mistake. Doesn't matter whether it's left wing or right wing, we are entering the era of the Fíor-Ghael. It's no different to the ethno-nationalistic fervor of the UK waving Union Jacks, or Trumps America where the real Americans fly the stars and stripes. It will eventually rage against everything in particular globalism (to the Fior-Ghael that is multinationals paying no tax, immigrants taking jobs, loss of sovereignty to the EU, vulture funds owning all the property, West-Brit types with all the wealth). Ironically, the ethno-nationalism is itself a global trend coming to a country near you.

Ethno nationalism tends to be more of a right wing thing eg Tories, GOP, Likud

[seafoid]

RTÉ

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For the first time since the foundation of the state, Sinn Féin have a TD in Roscommon, and neither Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil are represented in the Dáil."

[Downtothewire]

Also, which Shinner thought it was a good idea to produce the tricolours and sing 'Come Out Ye Black and Tans'?

What a moron.

On a day when everything they touched turned to gold, this bunch of idiots managed to give the perennial naysayers a penalty kick.

I don't see why it's controversial which is probably why I don't see too many people getting worked up about it. Why would anyone get worked up about it outside of the blueshirts who realise it's a dig at them over the RIC commemoration? Why would any other self respecting Irish citizen be upset/offended by a song celebrating the fight for independence?

Well said

[Itchy]

Make no mistake. Doesn't matter whether it's left wing or right wing, we are entering the era of the Fíor-Ghael. It's no different to the ethno-nationalistic fervor of the UK waving Union Jacks, or Trumps America where the real Americans fly the stars and stripes. It will eventually rage against everything in particular globalism (to the Fior-Ghael that is multinationals paying no tax, immigrants taking jobs, loss of sovereignty to the EU, vulture funds owning all the property, West-Brit types with all the wealth). Ironically, the ethno-nationalism is itself a global trend coming to a country near you.

Utter horseshite.

But well done Roscommon on electing a woman (god forbid) and a 1st Sinn Fein in 100 years. Ye are coming a long way lads, congrats.

[five points]

Ethno nationalism tends to be more of a right wing thing eg Tories, GOP, Likud

Hmmm. The big ethno-nationalist tyrannies of the past century were all various shades of big-state socialist.

[Ambrose]

Looks like FF won't have a TD in Louth, sadly FG will get over the line when McGahon's votes are redistributed. The last two seats are between Nash of Labour, who won't get many transfers from the north of the county, Fitzer who is surprisingly transfer friendly this time round and the ever popular Green Party candidate Mark Deary. Hopefully Fitzer and Mark will be celebrating in the Spirit Store later this evening, but it's going to be tight.

[weareros]

Make no mistake. Doesn't matter whether it's left wing or right wing, we are entering the era of the Fíor-Ghael. It's no different to the ethno-nationalistic fervor of the UK waving Union Jacks, or Trumps America where the real Americans fly the stars and stripes. It will eventually rage against everything in particular globalism (to the Fior-Ghael that is multinationals paying no tax, immigrants taking jobs, loss of sovereignty to the EU, vulture funds owning all the property, West-Brit types with all the wealth). Ironically, the ethno-nationalism is itself a global trend coming to a country near you.

Utter horseshite.

But well done Roscommon on electing a woman (god forbid) and a 1st Sinn Fein in 100 years and probably. Ye are coming a long way lads, congrats.

Roscommon has always thrown up interesting results and btw I have always been a big supporter of our local Sinn Fein councillor and it was nice of Matt Carty to give him a shout-out. A great politician as will Claire be too. Good people. However, as a party, I have my reservations.

[Rudi]

Kate O Connell, Regina Doherty, Shane Ross & Ruth Coppinger good riddance. The establishment has got a serious kicking, no harm in the long run. It's a small bit worrying that SF councillors that struggled to make seats in the locals, romped home in the General. Looks like a major protest vote, interesting to see how they perform in real life government.

[Cunny Funt]

RTÉ

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For the first time since the foundation of the state, Sinn Féin have a TD in Roscommon, and neither Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil are represented in the Dáil."

It was coming going by the last election. Two independents and the FF lad just about grabbed the 3rd seat

FF made a big error by putting in a 2nd candidate, they basically fell between two stools. As for FG all faith was lost in them since they closed down the A&E after election promises to keep it open.