26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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What will be makeup of the next government?

FF/SD/Lab/Green
FG/SD/Lab/Green
FG/FF
FF/Green
FG/Independents
FG/Independents
FG/Green
FF/SF
FF/Green/Independents
FF Minority
FG Minority
FG/SF
FF/Lab/Green
FF/Lab
FF/Lab/Green/Independents

Snapchap

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

Aside from their record in government, consider that Labour refuse to consider the idea of coalition with SF if the opportunity arose to form a left wing government, but they couldn't get into bed with FG quickly enough. Same ilk.

trailer

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 05, 2020, 09:31:11 PM
Erm....assuming the Greens & SF stand again in the next one - what happens then? Her thumping majority this time will hardly be repeated again, smartarse.

And risk losing NB back to the DUP? The dye is cast now....

playwiththewind1st

It's usually 'the die is cast' but sure just carry on regardless.

armaghniac

Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

Aside from their record in government, consider that Labour refuse to consider the idea of coalition with SF if the opportunity arose to form a left wing government, but they couldn't get into bed with FG quickly enough. Same ilk.

have Labour refused to consider a coalition with SF?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

yellowcard

Claire Hanna is a good politician but she is giving confused messages about her political leanings and caertainly has veered off path from her parties alliance with FF. Her canvassing for FG and Senator Neale Richmond in a plush part of Dublin doesn't really stack up with what I thought were her socialist labour principles. Maybe she is just trying to appeal to her South Belfast constituents many of whom come from fairly affluent backgrounds but she appears to be on a solo run from within the party.

marty34

Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 05, 2020, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Has she not canvassed for Labour too in the 26 counties?
How can you go from SDLP/Labour to FG?

Nasty work.  What do the people of sth. Belfast think of this?

SDLP don't know where to go in the south - Durkan was standing as a FG lad not so long ago.

I went out & voted for her, but it was more just to get rid of thon bitter individual Little. However, while it is clear she doesn't like FF, I thought she was more a Labour type. If she's tying up with FG, she will be losing a vote here.

WOW! Could prove crucial with her 15000+ majority

She's embarrassing herself - SDLP, Labour, FG....who knows what party tomorrow.  Stoops seem to be in disarray esp. with Durkan a FG politician.

Hound

Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2020, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

Aside from their record in government, consider that Labour refuse to consider the idea of coalition with SF if the opportunity arose to form a left wing government, but they couldn't get into bed with FG quickly enough. Same ilk.

have Labour refused to consider a coalition with SF?
Not sure if it's as far as an outright refusal, but it's close enough. Howlin said he'd be personally against it.  Links are still too strong to terrorism, punishment beatings and stances like their one on the Special Criminal Court show they have not moved on from their PIRA days, and someone other than Mary Lou is calling the shots.

johnnycool

Quote from: yellowcard on February 05, 2020, 10:00:12 PM
Claire Hanna is a good politician but she is giving confused messages about her political leanings and caertainly has veered off path from her parties alliance with FF. Her canvassing for FG and Senator Neale Richmond in a plush part of Dublin doesn't really stack up with what I thought were her socialist labour principles. Maybe she is just trying to appeal to her South Belfast constituents many of whom come from fairly affluent backgrounds but she appears to be on a solo run from within the party.

It's been long and manys a day since the SDLP had social labour principles.

Conor Murphy must have been using the same IRA men to get his information on Paul Quinn as Bertie Ahern it seems.

He should apologise and should have done it 13 years ago.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on February 05, 2020, 10:00:12 PM
Claire Hanna is a good politician but she is giving confused messages about her political leanings and caertainly has veered off path from her parties alliance with FF. Her canvassing for FG and Senator Neale Richmond in a plush part of Dublin doesn't really stack up with what I thought were her socialist labour principles. Maybe she is just trying to appeal to her South Belfast constituents many of whom come from fairly affluent backgrounds but she appears to be on a solo run from within the party.

It's been long and manys a day since the SDLP had social labour principles.

Conor Murphy must have been using the same IRA men to get his information on Paul Quinn as Bertie Ahern it seems.

He should apologise and should have done it 13 years ago.

In a normal society he would never be Finance minister in the first place based on his comments in the past. Disgraceful cover up  for his friends in Armagh

Snapchap

Quote from: Hound on February 06, 2020, 08:29:10 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2020, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

Aside from their record in government, consider that Labour refuse to consider the idea of coalition with SF if the opportunity arose to form a left wing government, but they couldn't get into bed with FG quickly enough. Same ilk.

have Labour refused to consider a coalition with SF?
Not sure if it's as far as an outright refusal, but it's close enough. Howlin said he'd be personally against it.  Links are still too strong to terrorism, punishment beatings and stances like their one on the Special Criminal Court show they have not moved on from their PIRA days, and someone other than Mary Lou is calling the shots.
All of which is utter nonsense, as Brendan well knows.

Keyser soze

Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 09:39:19 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 05, 2020, 09:31:11 PM
Erm....assuming the Greens & SF stand again in the next one - what happens then? Her thumping majority this time will hardly be repeated again, smartarse.

And risk losing NB back to the DUP? The dye is cast now....

People assuming an air of erudition who inevitably show just how stupid they are is what makes the internet great.

johnnycool

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 06, 2020, 09:09:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on February 05, 2020, 10:00:12 PM
Claire Hanna is a good politician but she is giving confused messages about her political leanings and caertainly has veered off path from her parties alliance with FF. Her canvassing for FG and Senator Neale Richmond in a plush part of Dublin doesn't really stack up with what I thought were her socialist labour principles. Maybe she is just trying to appeal to her South Belfast constituents many of whom come from fairly affluent backgrounds but she appears to be on a solo run from within the party.

It's been long and manys a day since the SDLP had social labour principles.

Conor Murphy must have been using the same IRA men to get his information on Paul Quinn as Bertie Ahern it seems.

He should apologise and should have done it 13 years ago.

In a normal society he would never be Finance minister in the first place based on his comments in the past. Disgraceful cover up  for his friends in Armagh

In a normal society most of those sitting in Stormont would struggle to get a decent job in any sector. They're hardly picked for their talent, are they?


Has anyone asked the PSNI if Paul Quinn "was known" to them prior to his horrific murder?

brokencrossbar1

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda%C3%AD-link-quinn-murder-to-fuel-smugglers-1.975144?mode=amp

The GardaĆ­ at the time believed that the murder related to disputes over fuel laundering. Peter Robinson, First Minister at the time said, he didn't believe that paramilitaries were involved based on the information he had at the time. The authorities believed this was a dispute between rival people and arose out of a fist fight. This is contemporary reporting by the most respected paper in ROI allegedly. Draw your own conclusions.

Main Street

How it took Mairead McGuinness FG MEP over 50 years to visit a nazi death camp is beyond me but somehow she pops up someplace in Cavan warning us to take heed of the lessons of Auschwitz after a recent visit there ;D
Hot on the heels, we have Michael McDowell ex FG warning us to remember the negative effects of the Weimar Republic - Germany 1919 to 1930s.

I'd hope that people still remember the basics from secondary school history lessons,  causes of WW1 - , Versailles treaty,  rise in anti semitism, Weimar Republic, hyperinflation, rise of Nazis and around the world the rise of  Blackshirts and  ahem... Blueshirts. 

five points

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Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2020, 11:51:59 AM
How it took Mairead McGuinness FG MEP over 50 years to visit a nazi death camp is beyond me but somehow she pops up someplace in Cavan warning us to take heed of the lessons of Auschwitz after a recent visit there ;D
Hot on the heels, we have Michael McDowell ex FG warning us to remember the negative effects of the Weimar Republic - Germany 1919 to 1930s.

I'd hope that people still remember the basics from secondary school history lessons,  causes of WW1 - , Versailles treaty,  rise in anti semitism, Weimar Republic, hyperinflation, rise of Nazis and around the world the rise of  Blackshirts and  ahem... Blueshirts.

Don't forget the Irish republican Nazi collaborators such as  Sean Russell (who has a statue in Fairview Park where a republican commemoration ceremony in his honour took place in 2003 featuring Mary Lou McDonald and Brian Keenan among others) and Frank Ryan. And Dan Breen who sent birthday greetings to Hitler in 1943 and attended the Dublin funeral of Nazi spy Hermann Goertz in 1947.