26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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What will be makeup of the next government?

FF/SD/Lab/Green
FG/SD/Lab/Green
FG/FF
FF/Green
FG/Independents
FG/Independents
FG/Green
FF/SF
FF/Green/Independents
FF Minority
FG Minority
FG/SF
FF/Lab/Green
FF/Lab
FF/Lab/Green/Independents

marty34

Quote from: JohnDenver on February 05, 2020, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
So we have Bertie Ahern as Taoiseach, the British Government's Monitoring Commission and Conor Murphy all having said his murder was linked to criminality, but only one of those three people/bodies are being asked for a public apology for the stating the claim. And this week, of all weeks, weirdly.

The cynical use of victims by gombeen political and media figures in the south is utterly disgusting. Though I do see Colum Eastwood has mysteriously chosen this week to raise the subject in Westminster. How odd that the leader of FF's sister party is only taking an interest this week eh?

he's been very quiet with regards to Claire Hanna's canvassing for both Labour and Fine Gael in the south.

Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

Snapchap

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Except that after resigning the whip,she appeared at the Labour Ard Fheis, and had been vocal of her support for Labour in the south, and had cancassed for them. Which makes her sudden efforts of behalf of FG all the more laughable. It just shows that Lab and FG are of the same ilk when you scratch the surface.

trailer

SF - they promise spending like they never have to carry it through. I kind of want to see them have their bluff called but it would set back the ROI 50+ years if they were ever elected. Be careful what ye wish/vote for

Saffrongael

It's called politics lad, it's a dirty game. Murphy has had more than enough time to apologise and has down so when his feet were put to the fire and with an election looming. Why do people think SF unexpectedly turned up at the launch of the new PSNI recruitment campaign, a week before an election ??
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Rois

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Except that after resigning the whip,she appeared at the Labour Ard Fheis, and had been vocal of her support for Labour in the south, and had cancassed for them. Which makes her sudden efforts of behalf of FG all the more laughable. It just shows that Lab and FG are of the same ilk when you scratch the surface.

Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

AFAIK Ms. Hanna isn't a member of Fine Gael or the Irish Labour party and is otherwise free as an Irish citizen to canvas whomever she wants to. If there is a possible conflict of interest it's up to her to explain it. Without knowing which FG candidate she's supporting, it's possible it's in a seat where no Labour party candidate is standing. Citations are needed.
She was canvassing for Emer Currie, daughter of civil rights campaigner and one of the original SDLP founders, Austin Currie, himself representing FG for a number of years.

armaghniac

Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
SF - they promise spending like they never have to carry it through. I kind of want to see them have their bluff called but it would set back the ROI 50+ years if they were ever elected. Be careful what ye wish/vote for

I'd say Mary-Lou would be like Boris after the Brexit referendum if she ended up as the biggest party and the others just said, you come up with a plan.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

marty34

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Has she not canvassed for Labour too in the 26 counties?
How can you go from SDLP/Labour to FG?

Nasty work.  What do the people of sth. Belfast think of this?

SDLP don't know where to go in the south - Durkan was standing as a FG lad not so long ago.

marty34

Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
SF - they promise spending like they never have to carry it through. I kind of want to see them have their bluff called but it would set back the ROI 50+ years if they were ever elected. Be careful what ye wish/vote for

Nice terminology.

seafoid

Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
SF - they promise spending like they never have to carry it through. I kind of want to see them have their bluff called but it would set back the ROI 50+ years if they were ever elected. Be careful what ye wish/vote for

The neoliberal parties are far more dangerous than SF. 
Michael McDowell was in the IT warning about the Shinners ar maidin. The PDs were the original neoliberals.
Light touch regulation brought us Anglo Irish.
EUR 35bn . The budget deficit in 2010 was 32% of GDP. Hundreds of suicides post crash. Thousands emigrated.

People like him only see what they want to see.

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Has she not canvassed for Labour too in the 26 counties?
How can you go from SDLP/Labour to FG?

Nasty work.  What do the people of sth. Belfast think of this?

SDLP don't know where to go in the south - Durkan was standing as a FG lad not so long ago.

I went out & voted for her, but it was more just to get rid of thon bitter individual Little. However, while it is clear she doesn't like FF, I thought she was more a Labour type. If she's tying up with FG, she will be losing a vote here.

marty34

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 05, 2020, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Has she not canvassed for Labour too in the 26 counties?
How can you go from SDLP/Labour to FG?

Nasty work.  What do the people of sth. Belfast think of this?

SDLP don't know where to go in the south - Durkan was standing as a FG lad not so long ago.

I went out & voted for her, but it was more just to get rid of thon bitter individual Little. However, while it is clear she doesn't like FF, I thought she was more a Labour type. If she's tying up with FG, she will be losing a vote here.

Totally agree.

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2020, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 05, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
SF - they promise spending like they never have to carry it through. I kind of want to see them have their bluff called but it would set back the ROI 50+ years if they were ever elected. Be careful what ye wish/vote for

The neoliberal parties are far more dangerous than SF. 
Michael McDowell was in the IT warning about the Shinners ar maidin. The PDs were the original neoliberals.
Light touch regulation brought us Anglo Irish.
EUR 35bn . The budget deficit in 2010 was 32% of GDP. Hundreds of suicides post crash. Thousands emigrated.

People like him only see what they want to see.

FF definitely a lot to answer for. Regulators and Banks caused a huge economic crash (worldwide not just ROI) But personal responsibility was shy on the ground post crash as well.
I bought a house in 2005... not 3, like lots of other lunatics.

Snapchap

Quote from: Rois on February 05, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 05, 2020, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Except that after resigning the whip,she appeared at the Labour Ard Fheis, and had been vocal of her support for Labour in the south, and had cancassed for them. Which makes her sudden efforts of behalf of FG all the more laughable. It just shows that Lab and FG are of the same ilk when you scratch the surface.

Labour and Fine Gael are of the same ilk? Aye.  ::)

AFAIK Ms. Hanna isn't a member of Fine Gael or the Irish Labour party and is otherwise free as an Irish citizen to canvas whomever she wants to. If there is a possible conflict of interest it's up to her to explain it. Without knowing which FG candidate she's supporting, it's possible it's in a seat where no Labour party candidate is standing. Citations are needed.
She was canvassing for Emer Currie, daughter of civil rights campaigner and one of the original SDLP founders, Austin Currie, himself representing FG for a number of years.
She was also canvassing for Neale Richmond in Dublin Rathdown, which also had a Labour Candidate. With Labour being the parry she has been vocal in her support of to date. While her colleague Pat Catney has been in Dublin Bay North canvassing for Aodhán Ó'Riordán of Labour. And Colum is if course backing FF. A shambles.

trailer

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 05, 2020, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Is Hanna canvassing for FG???  OMG, what a joke.  Nasty news if that's true.

She resigned from the SDLP whip this time last year in protest at the party deciding to form an electoral alliance with Fianna Fail though she still retains party membership. Nothing that controversial IMO about her helping to canvas for a Fine Gael candidate in that aspect as her opposition to a SDLP/Fianna Fail partnership was well known for some time before the vote to approve it took place, and resigned the SDLP whip & position as the party's Brexit spokesperson on such principle.

Has she not canvassed for Labour too in the 26 counties?
How can you go from SDLP/Labour to FG?

Nasty work.  What do the people of sth. Belfast think of this?

SDLP don't know where to go in the south - Durkan was standing as a FG lad not so long ago.

I went out & voted for her, but it was more just to get rid of thon bitter individual Little. However, while it is clear she doesn't like FF, I thought she was more a Labour type. If she's tying up with FG, she will be losing a vote here.

WOW! Could prove crucial with her 15000+ majority

playwiththewind1st

Erm....assuming the Greens & SF stand again in the next one - what happens then? Her thumping majority this time will hardly be repeated again, smartarse.