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Is it as bad as a knee to the balls?

As I say, I don't think it was a clear tackle as you say it is. McManus goes up to catch the ball, Mullen comes from behind and breaks it away, and leaves the arm around McManus's head. McManus wraps his arms around him and their legs get tangled and they go down. I can see how it can be seen as a rugby tackle, but McManus isn't a player who usually would be fit to do that and wouldn't try! Even if he did, you're seriously saying he deserved a knee to the balls for his efforts?! Alot of pulling and dragging goes on in alot of games, but as I said earlier you don't see a knee to the balls after every such incident.

Rewatching the match I see Tommy freeman got a wee headbutt in on Mc Guckin...

I hope you intend on pointing out all the Derry incidents too.

Incidentally, after watching the Mullen knee incident again, yes McManus had his arms around him but Mullen had his arm around McManus head while they fell, watch it again. You could say McManus had every right to tackle him because Mullen had him by the head... 

Regardless of what happened in the build-up, to condone a knee to the balls is bullshit.

JMohan you're talking some shite. I'll assume you haven't seen the incident as it was caught by the cameras yet. If you have and still think like that, then you need to seek help.

Yes, most of the blame from the Derry crowd by the looks of it, no surprise there. Neutrals seem to see the true story, both sides were guilty of it being that type of game.

Maybe Cassidy will continue playing like this, why change a winning system right?  All I'm saying is you'll be singing an entirely different tune should a similar game be played in the semi-final, I suppose it would then be either Tyrone/Armagh's fault. As you said, it takes two to tango.

take off the county coloured goggles lads.

Mc Cloy, Mc Guckin and B Mc Goldrick were acting as big a c***ts all day long as were D Mone, Clerkin, Woods.

Monaghan as many have said had never any intention of playing football, Derry just fought fire with fire and won simple as that. Woods, Clerkin D Mone are no angels and Hanratty at the end with Mc Cloy, Mc Cloys bigger so he's obviously going to come off better from it but it takes 2 to tango.

Like I said before, name another game Derry have played with that style, better still name a game Monaghan haven't.

Did you actually see this incident? McGuckian and McCloy were pushing Hanratty and Downey around like ragdolls, them wee boys aren't stupid enough to go looking for trouble with these brutes. Then you have Gillis running out of goal to get Hanratty in a headlock, and McCloy does the same.

And lets not forget this is Cassidy's championship debut, maybe he intends on playing every game like this!  I doubt you'd be as critical of it then! When it's Monaghan you say we have no intention of playing football, when it's Derry they're fighting with fire in their bellies, they were both the same FFS!

take off the county coloured goggles lads.

Mc Cloy, Mc Guckin and B Mc Goldrick were acting as big a c***ts all day long as were D Mone, Clerkin, Woods.

Finally a bit of sense!

Oakleafer would you cop onto yourself, you really know how to rub it in don't you! Ever heard of being gracious in victory? Now you're pouring scorn on all of Monaghan's games in recent times. As we've nowhere near the resources of bigger counties like yourselves we have to play on the edge with alot of intensity in an attempt to compete. Losing anyone to injury is a huge loss, unlike yourselves where yous have a heap of boys ready to step in seemlessly.

What was the craic with the numbers on the monagahan jerseys??

Apparently the numbers on the back were made up of the names of the panel and backroom team! Don't understand it myself, seems a bit over the top, think the Irish rugby team did something like that didn't they?

Now Whiskey Steve etc, you opinions on Chrissy Mc Kaigue after today please...would have preferred Brian og Mc Alary on. After his point he did very little.

Seems like a bit of a mouthpiece to me, bit of playacting late on too when he claimed Damien Freeman struck him, made a show of himself.

Missing JP Mone who is a huge miss for us, we don't the same resources as Derry to cope with injuries lest you forget. Paul McGuigan came on but not fit, he'd be a starter if he was at all fit this last while. And Lennon, well he might as well not been there in midfield, non-existant and the bad form clearly continuing.

Anyway, well done Derry and all the best. But it's awful hard to say that considering some of the shite you Derry ones are coming out with.

"I don't think Fergal should have been sent-off. Someone was holding the ball and he put the shoulder in him and that's part of the game."  Damien Cassidy

Just on this point, McQuaid wasn't holding the ball, he was running across it when Doherty went over to get it. Being a bit of a nuisanse yes, but Doherty was awful stupid to shoulder him over right in front of the ref and him on a yellow, after a good few warnings too.

I don't think Mullan was as devious as everyone is making out.

McManus rugby tackled the man for Gods sake - where's the referee for Gods sake?

In fairness if McManus wants to drag the game down to that level he deserves a knee in the jewels.




Oh and the ref does too!

Yes but the difference is Mullen will be getting a ban while McManus won't, what does that tell you about which was worse? People get dragged off the ball all the time, especially in Ulster, but you don't see scumbags kneeing fellas in the balls every week.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

So you're advocating Mullen's actions, well there's clearly no talking to you. And you think Monaghan are a disgrace!

Schkite it was Monaghan we where playing - as Cassidy said we had to match Monaghan physically and Derry did today. It was not nice and it did not entertain the public watching on television - but Monaghan are no angels!

Yes but I'm talking about you agreeing with Mullen's actions. You can be physical without resorting to a low blow like that. We're no angels surely but I'm trying to say neither are Derry, people making out like we dragged them down to our level!  Derry were the worse at it today.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

Don't defend Mullen for what he did was disgusting. If his job was something in UFC (Ultimate Fighting Challenge) then he did his job, it was cowardly and uncalled for and I hope to God he gets his comeuppance.

Well at least you can see it was wrong, but you still need to take off the blinkers in regard to some of the other stuff. We were missing players too you know. As Maguire said, we kicked ourselves out of it. Had our forwards been anyway on their game in the first half we'd have won. That's not even mentioning the square ball goal which Bradley wasn't even sure of at the time.

And the most negative team in Ulster, hardly! Watch any football last week? This game was always going to be dirty after the last 2 years.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

So you're advocating Mullen's actions, well there's clearly no talking to you. And you think Monaghan are a disgrace!

Dick Clerkin is one dirty dirty *******.

How did you manage to single out Clerkin out of all that went on today?

Clerkin should have walked at the end of the 1st half pushed the Derry man in the face in front of the ref after the whistle and him sitting on a yellow. Clerkin is a dirty fouling b**tard and always has been, he's well named put it like that.

Doherty should have went earlier too, tripped up a player right in front of the ref right after his first yellow. Or what about when he had Clerkin down, holding his head into the ground, he was far more guilty then Clerkin today no matter what you Derry yokes say.