The Many Faces of US Politics...

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sid waddell

Quote from: screenexile on October 27, 2017, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: stew on October 27, 2017, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 26, 2017, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: stew on October 26, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 25, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
But you said you'd vote for Bernie??

Bernie is not a leader in the democrat party is he???

Of course he is!!
at, Trump was and Killory is thank God, maybe, in Hillarys case she can start explaining why she covered up the paedophile ring among her political friends, that would be nice and might put a few c***ts behind bars, Hillers included.

As for the drug situation in the states, the CIA were at it so what did they expect???
I've got it... I know who stew is now!!



Nah, too thin and has too much hair to be sthtoo.

J70

Quote from: stew on October 27, 2017, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 26, 2017, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: stew on October 26, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 25, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
But you said you'd vote for Bernie??

Bernie is not a leader in the democrat party is he???

Of course he is!!

Anyway it's all OK lads the drug and alcohol problem is sorted... just tell people not to do it!!!

Problem solved A+

Bernie is no democrat, Trump was and Killory is thank God, maybe, in Hillarys case she can start explaining why she covered up the paedophile ring among her political friends, that would be nice and might put a few c***ts behind bars, Hillers included.

As for the drug situation in the states, the CIA were at it so what did they expect???

Dear god... ;D

J70

Quote from: stew on October 26, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 25, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
But you said you'd vote for Bernie??

Bernie is not a leader in the democrat party is he???

You're always spitting about how much you despise liberals/progressives/leftists.

Bernie is the most liberal, leftist politician in the Senate.

And, had he won the nomination he WOULD have been leader of the party.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: stew on October 27, 2017, 09:15:39 AM
Bernie is no democrat, Trump was and Killory is thank God, maybe, in Hillarys case she can start explaining why she covered up the paedophile ring among her political friends, that would be nice and might put a few c***ts behind bars, Hillers included.

As for the drug situation in the states, the CIA were at it so what did they expect???

Sweet suffering Jesus Christ

screenexile


seafoid

Flake and Corker have been flaking Trump all week.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Eamonnca1


screenexile

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 27, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
Joe Biden might make a run in 2020.

Oh please!! He wipes the floor with any Republican I still can't believe he didn't run last time!

give her dixie

Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

Private citizens who apply for Hurricane Harvey rebuilding funds in Dickinson, Texas no longer have to certify that they will not boycott Israel.

The Dickinson City Council on Tuesday voted to remove a clause from a relief application that had drawn the ire of the American Civil Liberties Union and pro-boycott activists, the Houston Chronicle reported.

The city, located near Houston, put the requirement in the application in order to comply with a new state law, signed in May, that requires all state contractors to certify that they are not participating in boycotts of Israel.

During the meeting on Tuesday, the council created two different applications for contracting with the city: one for businesses and one for private citizens. Businesses will still have to certify that they do not participate in the anti-Israel boycott.

Dickinson, a city of about 19,000, was hit especially hard by Harvey. More than three-quarters of its homes were damaged by the hurricane, and 830 were destroyed.

State Rep. Phil King, the author of the state legislation, said last week that the law, which went into effect on Sept. 1, "in no way applies to the type of situation that happened in Dickinson."

The ACLU complained that linking aid to an individual's support of the Israel boycott is a violation of free speech rights.

http://forward.com/fast-forward/386225/texas-town-pulls-bds-clause-from-hurricane-relief-application/

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

stew

Quote from: give her dixie on October 28, 2017, 09:36:51 AM
Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel

Private citizens who apply for Hurricane Harvey rebuilding funds in Dickinson, Texas no longer have to certify that they will not boycott Israel.

The Dickinson City Council on Tuesday voted to remove a clause from a relief application that had drawn the ire of the American Civil Liberties Union and pro-boycott activists, the Houston Chronicle reported.

The city, located near Houston, put the requirement in the application in order to comply with a new state law, signed in May, that requires all state contractors to certify that they are not participating in boycotts of Israel.

During the meeting on Tuesday, the council created two different applications for contracting with the city: one for businesses and one for private citizens. Businesses will still have to certify that they do not participate in the anti-Israel boycott.

Dickinson, a city of about 19,000, was hit especially hard by Harvey. More than three-quarters of its homes were damaged by the hurricane, and 830 were destroyed.

State Rep. Phil King, the author of the state legislation, said last week that the law, which went into effect on Sept. 1, "in no way applies to the type of situation that happened in Dickinson."

The ACLU complained that linking aid to an individual's support of the Israel boycott is a violation of free speech rights.

http://forward.com/fast-forward/386225/texas-town-pulls-bds-clause-from-hurricane-relief-application/


Absolutely disgraceful!!!!

Bastards killing democracy at every turn!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Seamus

Quote from: J70 on October 23, 2017, 06:38:50 PM
Quote from: Seamus on October 21, 2017, 07:47:11 PM
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Quote from: Esmarelda on October 21, 2017, 10:02:09 AM
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Quote from: Esmarelda on October 20, 2017, 05:16:07 PM
No talk about this on the thread http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

This is old news for those that do not suck on the MSM teat.
I can barely see you up there master. Is that really you? I don't pretend to be as learned as you but is it really old news that the Senate Judiciary Committee intends to probe this?

At this point there is no evidence Clinton was involved in decision making (which took place across multiple agencies), which is why it would be a huge story.

But it should be investigated (fairly!), given the allegations about bribery and coercion, no matter how high up the chain the wrongdoing, if any, occurred. If it results in criminal charges, so be it. No one should be above the law.

But, to use the Trump administration's term, when it comes to the Clintons specifically, it will probably turn out to be yet another "nothing burger", as all these GOP Clinton hunts invariably do. The more conspiracy minded will take that as yet more evidence of the Clintons' evil ways, skills and reach. Trump will use it to his advantage no matter what (" never mind my f**k ups, look at crooked Hillary!") while he himself ignores emoluments issues.

So who should investigate this? Robert Mueller? Will they roll back in James Comey the great protector of Her Highness? They both are up to their eyeballs in this. No point in having the Republicans doing the investigation either, all but a few are compromised in other matters and will not upset "The Club".

A proper Independent Council is needed that will not abuse it's power, otherwise this will get litigated and the criminals will get off once again. All we'll get from the blind followers is that "it was litigated, no evidence was found, lets move on".

Washington DC is the greatest enemy of the American people.

1. How is Comey the "great protector of her highness" when he arguably cost her election by putting the final nail in her coffin with the letter to congress about Weiner's laptop (which ultimately revealed nothing new) less than two weeks out?

2. I fully agree that such investigations should be led by an independent counsel, but how many on the GOP side are complaining about Mueller, one of their own! What would they say about someone with no connection to either party? Fact is that no matter WHO it is, once they start asking tough questions and issuing subpoenas, the side under investigation is going to start whining about it and trying to discredit the inquiry.

Mueller was Director of the FBI when all this started, therefore it would be a conflict of interest. He knew all about the deal and the treason involved and was a part of the coverup. He should be on the large list of those being investigated not the one doing the investigation.

Comey was a minor assistant US attorney in the late 90's.  He only gained power and money by being the DOJ official who "investigated" and cleared Bill Clinton of any wrong-doing in Clinton's totally corrupt pardon (for huge payoffs) of criminal financier Marc Rich as Clinton was leaving the Presidency.  This is how Comey began his career as a creature of the "swamp" years ago, as a servant of the Clintons.

Comey provided "cover" for the Clintons in their gaining incredible power and wealth after leaving office through pardoning a billionaire money-launderer, arms dealer and criminal.  Comey was a key piece in how the Clintons upped their corruption game and gained incredible wealth through their foundation after leaving the White House.  A huge part of the scheme was giving Marc Rich a free pass when he should have spent life in prison, and that is what Comey covered-up for the Clintons.  This set up Comey to be part of the corruption machine, making him powerful and wealthy.

Immediately after doing the Clinton's dirty work as a DOJ official, Comey resigned from the DOJ and took a position as the head attorney (Counsel) of the Lockheed Martin company, a huge military contractor.  While he was in that position Lockheed became a major contributor (millions) to the Clinton Foundation and its fake charity spin-offs.  In return for these payment to Clinton Inc., Lockheed received huge contracts with Hillary's state department.  Comey was the chief legal officer of Lockheed throughout this period of contributions to Clinton Inc. in return for State Dept. contracts.

In late 2012, after overseeing Lockheed's successful relationship with the Hillary State Department and the resulting profits, Comey stepped down from Lockheed and received a $6 million dollar payout for his services.

In 2013, the largest bank of England, HSBC Holdings, was deep into a scandal.  Investigations by federal authorities and law-enforcement had revealed that for years HSBC had been laundering billions of dollars for Mexican Drug Cartels, channeling money for Saudi banks who were financing terror, moving money for Iran in violation of the sanctions, and other major criminal activity.  HSBC's criminality was pervasive and deliberate by the Bank and its officials.  HSBC was a huge Clinton Foundation contributor (many millions) throughout the "investigation" and Bill Clinton was being paid large personal fees for speaking at HSBC events (while Hillary was Sec of State).   Eric Holder and the Obama Justice Department did what they were paid to do, and let HSBC off of the hook for a paltry 1.2 Billion dollar fine (paid by its stockholders), and not one Director, officer or management member at HSBC was fired or charged with any criminal.  Exactly when everyone involved with HSBC Bank (including the Clintons and all of their "donors") were being let off without penalty, and cover had to be provided to HSBC, Comey was appointed as a Director and Member of the Board of HSBC (in the middle of the fallout from the scandal).  He was part of the effort to cover up the scandal and make HSBC "respectable" again.

After about a year as HSBC director, despite his lack of any law enforcement experience, no DOJ leadership experience, and no qualifications for the job, Comey was appointed FBI director by Obama.  The only qualification Comey had was that the Clinton's and their cronies knew Comey was in bed with them, was compromised and was willing to do their dirty work.  Comey was appointed to the FBI right when Hillary was leaving the State Department, and was vulnerable to the FBI because she had been using a private-server, mis-handling classified information, selling access to favors/contracts from the State Department to Clinton Foundation Donors (including Comey's Lockheed Martin), and much more. Remember that this was about the time the Inspector General of the State Department found over 2 billion "missing" from the State Department finances during Hillary's tenure.

The obvious conclusion is that Comey was appointed to the FBI (along with other reliable Clinton-Obama cronies)  to run interference for the Clinton's and Obama's at the nation's federal law enforcement agency(in conjunction with a corrupt Department of Justice).  Comey was and is owned by the Clintons.  He owed all of his power and wealth to being part of their machine and providing them with cover.

In late 2015 and early 2016, information began to come out about the Clinton Foundation and its use by the Clinton's as a multi-billion dollar slush fund for corruption and political favors. (even Chelsea's wedding had been paid for by the "charity) This was right as Hillary was beginning her campaign for President. It was revealed that the Foundation had never completed required reports or had an audit.  Supposedly the FBI, under Comey, began an "investigation" of the Clinton Funds.  A "professional" accounting firm was brought in by the Clintons to do a review, file some reports, make recommendations to the Clinton Foundation Board, and provide a veneer of legitimacy to the Clinton Fund operations.  Predictably, one of the partners in the firm that was chosen (and paid lots of money) is the brother of James Comey (FBI Director).  This brother owes James Comey $700,000 for a loan James gave him to buy a house, and presumably some of the money from the Clinton Fund was used to make payments to James on the loan.  Over 2 years later and nothing has happened as a result of the FBI "investigating" the Clinton Funds under Comey.

No one in congress or federal law enforcement was intending to actually pursue the Clintons, but Judicial Watch and other independent sources obtained information proving that Hillary had been running her own server, sending out classified information, etc.  This information began to come out right in the middle of her campaign to be coronated as President.  A "show" investigation had to be performed to appear to look into it and clear her.  Who to use?...the reliable shill James Comey.

As head of the FBI, Comey (and his lackeys in key positions) deliberately screwed up the investigation into Hillary's use of a private server and her plain violation of national security law on classified information.  The investigation was deliberately mis-handled in every aspect. Comey gave immunity to all of Hillary's lackeys, did not use subpoenas or warrants, lost evidence, allowed the destruction of evidence, failed to do any searches or seizures of evidence, did not use a grand-jury, did not swear witnesses, did not record testimony, allowed attorneys to represent multiple suspects (corrupting the testimony).  Everything that could be done to ruin the FBI investigation and to cover for Hillary was done.  A "slam-dunk" case became a mess. Immunity was given every witness even though they provided no help.  Maybe more importantly, by focusing the FBI on the email scandal, attention was drawn away from the much bigger scandal of the Clinton Foundation that could bring down a huge number of corrupt politicians, lobbyists, and even governments.

Originally, Comey's job was simply to totally botch the Hillary investigation and ruin the case against her and her minions within the FBI regarding the emails. At the same time Comey also started work on a parallel assignment to illegally "wiretap" and surveil Donald Trump and every other person involved in the Republican campaign.  He was tasked with digging up any dirt or fact that could be used to hurt the Trump campaign later.  This included using a fake "dossier" paid for by the Clinton campaign to obtain authorization for the surveillance and to try to associate Trump's campaign with the Russians. Under Comey's direction the Trump/republican campaign was monitored and surveilled and all information was provided to the Obama Whitehouse and the Clinton camp all during the campaign.

Lorretta Lynch was supposed to complete the coverup for Hillary as Attorney General by issuing a finding that the deliberately botched FBI "investigation" did not justify prosecution of Hillary.  But someone screwed up and Bill Clinton was video'd meeting with Loretta Lynch in Arizona shortly before she was supposed to make her decision on Hillary (interference with a federal investigation), and Lynch could no longer credibly squash the Hillary scandal.  The solution, give the job to James.  The Clinton's owned him and he would have to do whatever is necessary to provide cover.

Comey goes on national TV and violates every rule of the FBI, the Justice Department and American law enforcement by revealing some of the FBI's "evidence" of what Hillary did (enough to make it look like the FBI and Comey did some investigation), then declaring that there was no "intent" and clearing Hillary.  He did what he was ordered to do.  The Justice Department and Obama backed Comey's coverup and it looked like Hillary had survived the scandal.

Then, right before the election, the NYPD obtained pervert Anthony Wiener's laptop and found classified emails from Hillary on the laptop.  The NYPD began leaking details to new-media outlets, and the story was about to explode.  Comey once again stepped in to cover Hillary.  He short-circuited the NYPD leaks by publicly acknowledging the laptop and the emails, but then claimed just days later that hundreds of thousands of emails had all been reviewed and "nothing new" was on the laptop.  Once again, he had done his job.  Providing cover and FBI "protection" for Hillary on the newest scandal when it broke.

If Hillary had won, Comey would have kept right on providing cover for the corruption of the Clinton machine.  He would have kept the FBI paralyzed, prevented the Clinton Fund from being investigated, and continued to do his job as the Clinton's personal scandal eraser at the FBI.
"I wish I could inspire the same confidence in the truth which is so readily accorded to lies".

Gabriel_Hurl


whitey

#10587
Either way it's going to get very interesting

Clinton camp could be in serious trouble over the Russian dossier

If I were to guess I'd say Manafort or Flynn or Flynns son is going to get indicted tomorrow

heganboy

Seamus,
That was a very interesting take on events. Thanks for the spin, batshit, but interesting. 

Whitey,
Again one of those times when I agree with you, it will be nothing if not interesting, and despite all the pontificating, not a single commentator has a clue what way this is going to play out.

I feel that this is not going to be as partisan as many believe, and that the take down will be cross party. Which to be honest is what America needs, which is to stop placing blind Faith in politicians along party lines.

Here's hoping....
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

It would be great if they could put Rebekah Mercer away.

The Dems are corrupt but the GOP is putrid at this stage.

This was on the FT site

Republican administrations had been much more criminally corrupt over the last 50 plus years than the Democrats. When comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, it's so lopsided as to be ridiculous. Yet all I ever hear about is how supposedly 'corrupt' the Democrats are. So why don't we break it down by president and the numbers? Obama (D) – 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as 'scandal free' they aren't speaking wishfully, they're simply telling the truth. Bush, George W. (R) – 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences. Clinton (D) – 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That's right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime. Bush, George H. W. (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence. Reagan (R) – 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences. Carter (D) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences. Ford (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence. Nixon (R) – 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences. Johnson (D) – 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences. So, let's see where that leaves us. In the last 53 years, Democrats have been in the Oval Office for 25 of those years, while Republicans held it for 28. In their 25 yrs in office Democrats had a total of three executive branch officials indicted with one conviction and one prison sentence. That's one whole executive branch official convicted of a crime in two and a half decades of Democrat leadership. In the 28 yrs that Republicans have held office over the last 53 yrs they have had a total of (a drum roll would be more than appropriate), 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials. 89 criminal convictions and 34 prison sentences handed down. That's more prison sentences than years in office since 1968 for Republicans. If you want to count articles of impeachment as indictments (they aren't really but we can count them as an action), both sides get one more. However, Clinton wasn't found guilty while Nixon resigned and was pardoned by Ford (and a pardon carries with it a legal admission of guilt on the part of the pardoned). So those only serve to make Republicans look even worse. With everything going on with Trump and his people right now, it's a safe bet Republicans are gonna be padding their numbers a bit real soon. So let's just go over the numbers one more time, shall we? 120 indictments for Republicans. 89 convictions, and 34 prison sentences. Those aren't 'feelings' or 'alternate facts' or 'fake news'. Those are simply the stats by the numbers. Republicans are, and have been for my entire lifetime, the most criminally corrupt party to hold the office of the presidency.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU